irl-gear

[old portal]

I don’t think even that would work. It worked in kids that got spanked growing up. Introducing a spanking to an 18 year old is recipe for disaster

[marsh flint]

Haha

[old portal]

Infantry was great. Sucked at times but it was great

[coarse laurel]

True, maybe it’s just me losing my shit

Lmao

[marsh flint]

This is actually true

[muted gate]

I don't think they'd beat people, I think it would just be actual smoke sessions coming back

[marsh flint]

Feels like every kid these days has problems with authority

[muted gate]

See I'm just happy because if we have conscription I already have my job locked in and I'm in the rear with the gear most of the time

[old portal]

Absolutely nothing will ever compare to leading boys in combat and having them trust you without hesitation thru the gates of hell. Sounds corny but it’s an indescribable feeling knowing you were trusted that much

[marsh flint]

Yes

It's not corny

[muted gate]

Yeah fuck that I'm Stupid as shit

[coarse laurel]

Being a combat medic has MF’s thinking I’m Jesus and I can make shit happen with a snap of my fingers

I really hate it

[marsh flint]

That must be true lol

Video game kids

It works in Battlefield games though

[old portal]

Stateside/peacetime army is nearly unbearable after those experiences. You hate them but you hate not being in them when it’s said and done.

[coarse laurel]

Bro when I was a PFC I had a LT Col asking me about medical operations

[old portal]

I always thought doc was Jesus.

[coarse laurel]

Like fuck man

Half the shit I had to learn on the job

[marsh flint]

Glad you didn't have to see the truth then

[coarse laurel]

Can’t save them all

[marsh flint]

Might be sad realization when shit hits the fan

[old portal]

Oh I saw the truth but never lost faith in doc. He always took it the hardest

Doc was harder than woodpecker lips. Humping a 60lb medic bag around with only an M9….balls

[marsh flint]

Damn

I still haven't fired good old M9

Beretta APX was bad though

[coarse laurel]

Medics back then carried even less

I swear to god as time goes on we end up carrying more and more shit

My aid bag is 60lbs minimum not counting if im carrying shit like whole blood

Plus I have an M4 and an M17

At one point I had an M26 shotgun strapped on my aidbag lol

[marsh flint]

Based

M26 Mass?

[coarse laurel]

Yes

I really hope they adopt the SBR version of the fucking M7

[marsh flint]

Nice pic

That's like the grease gun shotgun

[coarse laurel]

It’s kinda shitty

[marsh flint]

No doubt

[old portal]

Doc refused to carry anything more than the m9…he always said his rifle was keeping ours going. I respected it

[coarse laurel]

It’s admirable but it’s tactically unsound

It’s basically one less gun

[old portal]

Honestly I think it was just the thing then. All our medics could carry a rifle…wasn’t forced…all chose M9s only. Never saw one in my 8 years and all combat deployments carry a rifle

Maybe it was the fad

[coarse laurel]

When I was armor dismounted medics are expected to carry their M4’s because the TC provides security for the jump medics and vice versa

During a firefight the medic ain’t gonna start treating until fire superiority is established, that means the medic is also returning fire instead of just sitting and waiting around

It’s a common misconception that medics don’t fight, this ain’t WW2 where we wear red crosses and are supposed to be considered non combatants

Plus that shit just made medics into targets

Most medics these days blend in with the 11B’s to avoid getting picked off

I don’t wear medical identifiers unless I’m part of an Evac crew or something

[old portal]

Ya I also never saw any type of identifier. The identifier was the giant ranger green couch on his back

Most bad ass dudes I ever witnessed were flight medics. We took several casualties one day when we ate a dismounted ied that kicked off small arms ambush. Had to drag casualties down the street with hasty window curtain litters shooting my M4 one handed all the way to LZ. Bird sitting in middle of street with flight medics standing there next to two litters on ground just holding M9s. Rounds skipping around all over the place. It was like a movie scene from we were soldiers or something. Those dudes were statues in all that gunfire

[coarse laurel]

Flight medics are a different breed

Lowkey sometimes I miss the line but I’m also older now with a lot of injuries

[marsh flint]

I remember the scene

[marsh flint]

From the movie

[snow scarab]

it is extremely dog shit

[snow scarab]

my uncle has been one for like, 14-15 years now?

dudes a fuckin beast

[old portal]

Ya bro. That was probably one of the most impressive thing i witnessed overseas.

[plush topaz]

We have a medic grenadier in our company. It's ridiculous.

[worthy galleon]

I need to start investing in some but I keep buying guns

[compact dagger]

Same problem over here, our corporals and up are starting to think of ways to discipline them properly so they don't get assfucked by higherups when we get a batch of conscripts to our BN, from what I overheard you can't really even force them to do pushups and other activities unless it's in the training program

Meanwhile when I was in BCT they made us do phyisical activities when someone fucked up or some other shit, like if you forgot your pen to class they just gave you a sharpened tree branch that you had to carry around, forgot a compass ? now you get to carry just a big disk of wood with a string attached, same shit for if you left a gun somewhere

[old portal]

Bro I remember when you weren’t shaved for formation dudes walking around wearing a razor around neck like a necklace.

Or you lost your dog tags. Dudes wearing giant cardboard dog tags around company area like a week

[ashen edge]

get medical

real NAR TQ pls

[worthy galleon]

When I say I need some gear, I don't have shit

I am looking for a nice set of NVG's but haven't really done a ton of research, I been too busy.

[old portal]

Not going to lie, I often don’t understand why so many spend so much on tac gear. If it’s for work I get it but if it’s just to run around on a range occasionally I just don’t get it

Maybe my opinion was formed from running around in kit for so long for a paycheck but if it’s not for a paycheck I don’t see the need for it

[worthy galleon]

I semi-agree

If you are going to the range with your buds to just plink metal, you shouldn't be full kit 😂
I do see some benefits of doing drills in full kit if you want to train for when shit hits the fan.

But if you are posting LARP pics at a public range in full kit, that's pretty sad.

[old portal]

I just don’t ever see this SHTF world in chaos survival scenario that people are “training” for.

Too far fetched of an idea to me

I blame AMC for making The Walking Dead on this

[worthy galleon]

you don't want to be the guy without training in that scenario 🤷

I doubt any civilian needs to be learning how to clear rooms but if you got the time and money for it, why not

[plush topaz]

Nonsense created by television and excellent marketing by smart companies who never let a good disaster go to waste

[marsh flint]

Always.

[compact dagger]

Most of these people who train for "when SHTF" most likely will either die within 2 days, or just won't get to their gear, because it will hit the fan when you are doing something outdoors besides going to the range, if you are looking at apocalypse scenario, your neighbours that know that you have that shit will probably come over and take it from you

I get having a small kit ready just in case, i'd want that for myself too ( can't buy guns here without license and i cant be fucked enough to get one ), but getting shit like hella expensive nods or thermals is meh imho

Even if i'd get my own kit it would be useless to me because I would get called into the base anyways and get my full loadout, so except when i leave the military it mostly would be waste of money

[plush topaz]

@compact dagger how does one train for it

[compact dagger]

What I'd prioritise in training for such scenario, would be more of survival and less on stuff like house clearing and direct combat, like how to fish/hunt with resources you can find in the wild, how to make a good hidden shelter, what plants could be used for food and/or medical application of plants, at least in the area that you live in, definitely first aid courses

Because those skills could be useful even if you go out on a hike and can't get back and need to survive until someone finds you

Or you get to participate in Mr.Beast survival videos

[gleaming meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq0OSpmz8vY

@inland agate

@trim urchin

[low zodiac]

Outdoor boys

That channel will teach you everything you need to know about living outside

Particularly in cold mountainous environments

[muted lynx]

outdoor boys fucks

[neon loom]

Counts as gear (to me). But the stickers !!

[muted gate]

how many car payments

[plush topaz]

Suggestions for land compasses?

[plush topaz]

He's the best.

[wet edge]

SILVA MILITARY - COMPASS 5-360/6400 GLOBAL

Been using for a couple years now, no complaints so far

[old portal]

https://cammenga.com/products/copy-of-tritium-compass-3h-olive-drab

That’s the US standard issue. Never failed me

[compact dagger]

Never understood how to use one, thankfully we didn't get these ones issued to us

[old portal]

Super super simple to use once you receive like a 5 minute block of instruction

[plush topaz]

Does it have a peep for azimuth readings

[plush topaz]

Looks good but that isn't a field compass

[old portal]

Ya that’s the little black circle in front

[plush topaz]

Awesome

[plush topaz]

You didn't do land nav

[old portal]

It’s folded down slightly with slight aiming notch on top to align with sight wire in front for accurate azimuth shots

[compact dagger]

nah we use different compasses, from what I understand you fold it somehow and then get a reading

idk

was funny when someone bought a compass like that and didn't know how to use it

[plush topaz]

[compact dagger]

I just keep forgetting when to add or take off some degrees

I mix it up when going from map to reality and vice versa

[coarse laurel]

for my primary I use my ATAK/Garmin
Alternate I use my garmin watch
Contingency I use the regular green tritium compass
Emergency I use terrain association and the sky

[wet edge]

What makes a field compass?

[coarse laurel]

That concludes my pace plan

Lol

[compact dagger]

with ATAK/Garmin you mean those square garmins ?

forgot the name of it

foretex

that's it

[coarse laurel]

Foretex

[wet edge]

My ATAK is a samsung S10 of some kind, dont know what he is using

[old portal]

I used a Casio pathfinder digital compass watch in 2007 to call in a danger close mortar mission…I trusted it a lot

[compact dagger]

When I took one foretex for myself on last training i was just confused on how to use it, had some of the older guys to show me basic features

[coarse laurel]

The future is now old man

[compact dagger]

But I ended up not needing it, didn't have a reason to tell our coordinates to anyone

[coarse laurel]

Haha

[compact dagger]

But it's safer to use a backup, because for some reason Fenix 7x likes to show your old coordinates first

[coarse laurel]

But in reality I need it for calling in medevac birds, not gonna disadvantage myself by not being able to spit out my 10 digit grid on a whim

When someone’s dying

Lol

[compact dagger]

So you may go 100s of km away, but first time you open the coordinate page it will show the ones from last time you opened it

[coarse laurel]

I’m still using my fenix 5x

It’s 6 years old now

[compact dagger]

i got my 7x 2 years ago

don't regret it, even tho at the time it was my whole paycheck for the month

but im not financially challenged like other people i serve with, I can save up money

[coarse laurel]

They sell these in the PX for heavily discounted prices during Black Friday and stuff

[compact dagger]

Huge upside of me getting a 7x is that it has a flashlight and a redlight

[old portal]

Ya I had my Garmin etrex and my pathfinder. My squad and another squad with attached gun got sent out on patrol looking for a downed predator drone in a very unfriendly area. We got to the second structure at the edge of the town and hit absolutely lit up by multiple weapon systems from the direction of our movement. I was rooftop directing 240 and 203 fires and sent that mission to my PL downstairs. We broke contact under rounds being fired overhead. Scary as hell. Dec 20 2007 will never forget that date

[compact dagger]

Idk about earlier garmins but at least 7x can be used for both military and civ

Long ass battery life, looks good, can get wallet and music on it, and bunch of features for sports

even HAHO/HALO but not like i'll ever get to use them

[coarse laurel]

I used the jumpmaster feature a lot lol

[compact dagger]

You are saying that to a guy from a country that barely has any aircraft of their own

Makes me sad : *(

[marsh flint]

You have cessnas?

[fiery patrol]

nice CQB

[plush topaz]

No do it where they shoot back

[wet geyser]

From what I have seen the most realistic cqb is nade spam and pre firing everything

[plush topaz]

Exactly what we do lol

Not this rehearsed bullshit for Instagram

[plush topaz]

Ehhh. Tritium. Eye level azimuth readout. Hand held. Compact.

Weatherproof

[grand mountain]

this is a forward observations clip innit

[wicked shard]

yuh

sorry, was out fixing my car

[grand mountain]

or just level the building with a tank

[old portal]

Our standard became if we took contact from a structure we backed out and let the Apaches put hellfires thru the roof or fast movers put JDAMs thru it

[grand mountain]

The biggest threat in the American military is always the radioman

[old portal]

Talking an Apache into a target was a good feeling

[rigid sequoia]

New patch

[bright juniper]

bro this vid is the coldest vid ive seen in a long while

[marsh flint]

This

[marsh flint]

No worries of the ricochets?

@old portal any comments?

[old portal]

We didn’t blind fire or frag corners. That’s especially reckless in the built-up urban areas we were fighting in. Real world CQB on a 2 way range isn’t as slow and methodical as these videos portray but it’s also not indiscriminate shooting and fragging.

It’s sometimes hard living with the weight of the people I killed overseas and it’s been a long time. I don’t want to think how heavy that weight would be if it was people that didn’t deserve to die

[marsh flint]

Yeah can't imagine that

[wet geyser]

I would like to point out that I have never been to war and all my knowledge of modern day cqb had come from combat footage of the stuff going on in Israel

[old portal]

I haven’t followed or kept up with the fighting in Ukraine and Israel so I have no clue how it’s being fought

[plush topaz]

In 20 years I've never cleared a building and civilians were inside. We tell everyone we'll ahead of time to gtfo. Leaflets. Texts. Phone calls.

Special missions with element of surprise is another story. I don't do that stuff lol

[plush topaz]

Always

[old portal]

My combat deployments were the opposite experience. Of the hundreds of structures we cleared a large majority of them were occupied. We tossed lots of bangers.

[plush topaz]

That's wild

Puts y'all at immense risk

Human shield taking is another level of evil

[old portal]

Our unit lost 32 KIA during the ‘07 deployment. It was not an easy task

[plush topaz]

May their memories be blessed.

[wet edge]

Ah alright, never heard the term before. I can see how the tritium and eye level azimuth is useful. The one i sent is the one i was issued and has worked well in field conditions.

Thanks for clearing it up for me

[plush topaz]

If you have your coordinates the azimuth of your target and a lazed range you can quickly get coordinates of your target for CAS artillery anything

[low fox]

Any fellow Multicam enjoyers?

[old portal]

What do you do for work? I assume this kit is for that purpose

[low fox]

PMC, and sometimes LARPing in airsoft if I’m in the mood to run around with a heavy plate carrier. Might be taking it to Ukraine, but that’s still up in the air currently.

[storm peak]

Where phone

[real thorn]

guys

I found someone selling brand new unopened M32 mod3s

60$, retails here for 100

should I go for it?

[empty sorrel]

Thought they were like $70

[old portal]

I miss the old ALICE LCEs

My man in the back ticking the Ranger beads

[plush topaz]

Pmc eh

[old portal]

Yup. I remember we were using them as basically chest rigs before MOLLE came out. It was set up so the buckle was on the side and you stacked 4 of those mag pouches side by side across the front and wore it high up on the chest with the harness shortened up

Then it transitioned into just hanging the ALICE pouches off of the IBA shortly before we started getting MOLLE in around 04

[old portal]

Kinda similar to this

But it was still all attached to the LCE pistol belt with the belt clip set up on the side

[marsh flint]

I've trained with that retro gear

Those were also made by Savotta. M85.

[proud hazel]

@plush topaz what do i do with my new 9mm pcc

[sand rover]

My dad still has all his gear from when he was stationed in like the 80s

One of my dad's favorite things to mention about the alice rig is that everybody was using 30 round pouches, with 20 round mags cus they're lighter and easier to get in trucks with

And he always said there was just enough room in the pouch to fit an apple on top of your mags, and still clip the pouch shut

[plush topaz]

Reckon you should shoot it.

Preferably a lot.

[sand rover]

Managed to get his helmet out too

[proud hazel]

Idk its a speingfield, i kinda want to sell it

[wet geyser]

Nice setup

[grand mountain]

Thanks

it needs the radio

I ordered some blast gauges for kit candy though

[wet geyser]

I just run a beofeng on mine. It’s broken so it’s just there for looks lol

[grand mountain]

I've got comtacs with a downlead

Just haven't bought a radio yet cause I haven't felt like spending 120 on a ptt

[wet geyser]

Nice. I need to get a new helmet setup cuz my current one is the one 15 year old me bought. (It’s not good)

[grand mountain]

I need to replace the helmet itself

[wet geyser]

What’s ur current helmet

[grand mountain]

some chinese shit

im gonna get an ops core bump

[wet geyser]

Same lol

[grand mountain]

or a ballistic idk yet

[real thorn]

thats M31s

[thick jasper]

i like those glasses

[tawny bane]

What is it bruh

[tawny bane]

Scuba stuff?

[muted lynx]

This is not a marketplace, please do not try and sell stuff here

[floral oracle]

oh ok sorry

[plush topaz]

@muted lynx I've driven my 4runner like four times since November

I bet you anything it starts up like nothing happened when I'm home weds

[obsidian moss]

Regulator for hpa builds too set the pressure so u get the right fps

[muted lynx]

i'd bet anything it will too lol

[wet geyser]

Airsoft shit

[wet geyser]

This specifically

Clean setup

[snow scarab]

what’s poppin

[plush topaz]

Sup kiddo

[empty sorrel]

Steal a peq for me

[storm peak]

Why the cringe mask

[snow scarab]

because i was driving a bradley hatch open through the desert

didn’t want to eat sand

it’s just a neck gaiter

[snow scarab]

if i’m stealing any it’s gonna be for me 😂

[empty sorrel]

At least snag some M80a1

[plush topaz]

Essential cringe mask

[wet geyser]

With the GoPro body cam is wild

[low zodiac]

It’s for his airsoft events 🙏

He’s got a really really nice gas blockback bro

Overgassed so people call their hits in the most realistic way possible

[marsh flint]

Makes you look younger

[plush topaz]

Aw thanks

Too bad my back doesn't feel younger when I'm wearing all that shit

[marsh flint]

Are you at home rn

Or is there another rotation

[plush topaz]

Flying home in a few hours

Next deployment is end of July

[marsh flint]

Oh

[snow scarab]

we ARE doing gunnery rn lmfao

plenty of it laying around

[sand rover]

You still exist

Cool

[marsh flint]

Looks before anything

[plush topaz]

@snow scarab when are you coming to Tel Aviv

[empty sorrel]

$7/piece

[grand mountain]

steal 3

one for you, one for me, and one for qwe

[snow scarab]

never. i’ll die for you people in europe, not the middle east 😂

[plush topaz]

How come. I'll buy you a beer.

[wet geyser]

*4 I want one too

[grand mountain]

no

no peq for you

[wet geyser]

But why

[grand mountain]

4 is too many

and qwe and i asked first

[tawny bane]

Baby grizzly

[safe badge]

Work and play.

[rigid panther]

I peep the pickle Rick patch

I got one too

[low fox]

It’s official folks, Ukrainian Foreign Legion 3 months from now.

Anybody else here veteran/active military with any tips on what I should be bringing?

[old portal]

What’s your previous tactical experience?

[muted gate]

inb4 none

[small pine]

My condolences ☹️

[old portal]

I swear to god I hope this message doesn’t include airsoft anywhere in it

[grand mountain]

"I went to milsim west one time"

condor and baofeng

[small pine]

I didnt know the Foreign Legion was still a thing in Ukraine, didn't that get absolutely blasted in the first weeks of the war? What even made you go there?

[grand mountain]

To be fair if they accepted him he probably has some form of actual experience

[dense badger]

Lots of socks

[grand mountain]

I think they stopped accepting straight cannon fodder awhile ago

[old portal]

If you’re looking to do something worthy and you are not a veteran then enlist in your own military. If you’re not directly affected by this Ukrainian conflict as in a Ukrainian national or something and especially if you have no previous combat experience my best advice is don’t go.

[low fox]

Contractor.
proficient in a multitude of small arms. Worked with the M4 and AK platform primarily. Along with the M203. Experience with light and medium machine guns as well.
Worked on ships off the coast of Somalia for a while. Multiple CQB classes and live fire training. Have been fired at and returned fire.
Just the most basic shit anybody should have if they’re applying really.

[small pine]

Cant wait to see the criminals Ukraine stated they will deploy on the battlefield 😊

[low fox]

lol

[low fox]

I’ve heard this one all too well lol

[small pine]

I dont want to be pessimistic and ive never served or whateva but I really dont know how much is it worth to get deployed there

[dense badger]

but for real good idea to bring good sleeping equipment, good weather gear because it gets cold as fuck and the bugs can be bad, bring good sets of clothing, make sure you are bringing good eyepro and ear pro for backup incase yours are bunk, you're gonna get backwater shit so be ready for most of it to be needing upgrades, a lot of guys are getting helmet vest rig ammo and thats pretty much it, take some medical classes before you go too

[small pine]

When people talk about the drone situation there I really doubt thwy are joking most of the time

[muted gate]

🍿

[low fox]

Might just eat a 155 shell the moment I step off the vehicle transporting me haha

[dense badger]

hope not 😭

[low fox]

Better way to go than killing myself :D

[dense badger]

better things to do

tarkov wipes august come on now

[old portal]

Why not just enlist instead?

[low fox]

I know a shit ton of enlisted guys, I’m not working for that command structure lol

[small pine]

Idk man Id rather shoot myself with a 9mm in my head and end it on the spot than experiencing a mortar or artillery shrapnel passing through my abdomen only to die out of bleeding whole 2 minutes later

[muted gate]

You do know you're still dealing with a shit command structure right but you're just getting shot at

[low fox]

That’s why I wear a IIIA abdomen panel

[muted gate]

You do realize that right?

[low fox]

Oh yeah

[muted gate]

the foreign legions are treated as absolute fucking cannon fodder

[low fox]

Dude, I wanna be dead, at least I’m doing something for this world that way

[grand mountain]

longer, probably. gut wounds are slowww

[muted gate]

Well I'm noping out of this conversation

[low fox]

Yeah, gut wounds fucking suck

Wear ya damn shrapnel vest

[old portal]

So you think it’s a better idea to join a unit lead by and filled by complete and total strangers you’ve never worked, have no idea their competency level with having zero combat experience but then going into potentially close quarters combat with them? I just highly recommend reconsidering this

[low fox]

That’s civilian contracting as well haha (minus the CQB)

What do I honestly do that would be better though

[timber fog]

Anti-poaching in Africa

[grand mountain]

I would not want to go into CQB with anyone I haven't trained with for a long fucking time.

I mean, preferably I wouldn't go into cqb at all, but you win some you lose some

[timber fog]

Those guys see a lot of action

[low fox]

That’s how you get your head cut off and posted on the internet

[muted gate]

The one good thing that is over there cqc just involves grenades

A lot of grenades

a prohibitively high amount of grenades

like dump pouches full of grenades

[low fox]

Fuck ton of frags, frag a room before you clear

[old portal]

Serve your own country’s military. Be productive to your country and not get involved with unrelated wars because you have FOMO

[grand mountain]

Your point man isn't the first guy in the stack, it's actually a frag grenade

[muted gate]

did you not read what I just said

[grand mountain]

I was agreeing with you?

[low fox]

I’m ensuring me country’s military doesn’t send American troops to their deaths if Ukraine goes sideways

[small pine]

Armor is good but it doesnt have a bigass magnet strapped on it which draws all potential shrapnel towards it

[timber fog]

I mean the odds you’ll end up on the internet are pretty good in any conflict these days, so

[muted gate]

This is some ass backward logic if I've ever seen it

[low fox]

I do have a big ass magnet, for a breaching shotgun tho

[grand mountain]

i was affirming what you said, not countering it

[low fox]

Care to elaborate?

[muted gate]

no because I'll get banned

[low fox]

DMs lol

[grand mountain]

having fomo for arguably the most fucked war we've seen this century is wild

[small pine]

Whats FOMO?

[grand mountain]

fear of missing out

[muted gate]

To be fair we are going to garrison

[timber fog]

Lol

[grand mountain]

and it's not like it's a low bar either

[low fox]

DW it ain’t fomo, we’ve still got Taiwan to worry about

[muted gate]

See I think everyone here needs to scroll up and see why he's doing this

Because that rationale is not smart

[small pine]

I hope thats not why he signed that contract

[muted gate]

Not the keeping Americans out of war thing cause that's just stupid i'm talking about the thing he said before that

[old portal]

Trust me bro it’s already gone sideways and combat isn’t what you think, especially when you’re fighting in a conflict you have no skin in the game for and you are fighting with dudes that you basically don’t know.

[grand mountain]

Oh I saw it, and as someone who's struggled with those ideations, tendencies, and attempts in the past, it's actually so fucking dumb

[timber fog]

I mean I don’t agree with the rationale but I respect it

[low fox]

That’s contracting as an entirety still

[muted gate]

There are so many things I want to say but I'll get banned

[low fox]

DM

[muted gate]

no

[low fox]

Tell me if the glorious ways I shall fertilize a trench after eating a direct 155

[grand mountain]

This is either some high-level bait or this dude's gonna get mulched by a 105 and posted on twitter in a few months

[low fox]

That’s joke

[muted gate]

@snow scarab if your up, have a laugh

[low fox]

Not suicidal strangely enough

[muted gate]

I am leaning towards bait

[snow scarab]

i have been pinged

what is there to laugh at

[muted gate]

Fucking read up man

[small pine]

If you think going to a meatgrinder might be your only purpose left then please try to look further in life and find an actual purpose to live

[muted gate]

Let me get you a link

[grand mountain]

honestly the furry going to ukraine is so fucking hysterical

[muted gate]

#irl-gear message

@snow scarab

I know you're bored in fucking Kuwait right now

[small pine]

Do you have any friends family etc?

[grand mountain]

my purpose to live is pure unadulterated spite at this point

[low fox]

Family, a few friends

[old portal]

The contracting you’ve done is nothing compared to what you’ll likely encounter in Ukraine. One of my team leaders after he got out did one contract tour on board ship off coast of Somalia. I’m not trying to be a dick but he said it was an actual joke

[small pine]

Do you appreciate them?

[low fox]

Indeed

[grand mountain]

War is hell. I'll count my life lucky if I never have to fight one

[low fox]

Compared to real cqb, absolutely.

[grand mountain]

When I was a kid I dreamed about joining the military and going into combat. Then I grew up.

[small pine]

So why do you want to become a war tool for some fucked command structure and lose those friends and family

Like hands down you may survive

[low fox]

Ask that to any US armed services vet

[grand mountain]

I don't agree with the rationale, but I can respect it

[small pine]

But think of the stress that your friends and family would have during your deployment

[grand mountain]

I still think it's stupid, but I can see the point

[snow scarab]

@low fox if you don’t mind me asking, you got a picture of what you are bringing?

[muted gate]

Dude no he's asking for what he should bring

[low fox]

Same as the thousands who served overseas

[grand mountain]

please be condor please be condor please be condor please be condor

[muted gate]

wheeze

[grand mountain]

i need to laugh

[snow scarab]

not gonna outright deny what you’ve been saying however lots of shit ain’t lining up. ik personally im a maniac that would love to get shot at but i imagine my mind would change when i actually see combat

[small pine]

And how many of those thousands returned home?

[muted gate]

Dude like 90% join for college

The joke that they got lost on their way to college is not a meme it's the reason why a majority of people join

[snow scarab]

yes, so i would like to see his kit and what not of what he is bringing

[muted gate]

that and citizenship

[old portal]

Do you think joining a rag tag bunch of probably half of wannabes in a foreign country will be a better command structure

[low fox]

SKD PIG plate carrier, not a shitty condor MOPC

[grand mountain]

I thought about going army, AF, or natty just to pay for my college lol

[small pine]

A lot of those conscripts or mercenaries or whatever join because theyve got nothing to lose or need the money or god knows what else

[grand mountain]

[low fox]

No

[muted gate]

The post at 11 as long as you're on 90 days of active duty service will pay for literally all of your college

[small pine]

But you do have something ro lose

[muted gate]

it's like 36 months

[grand mountain]

Yeah I just found out I'm medically ineligible to serve anyway

[snow scarab]

got a picture of how you have it set up

[small pine]

Ive seen at least a few of those vets regret this decision after deployment and a lot of them get scarred for life

[muted gate]

If it doesn't have ball and neck protection I'm going to laugh

[grand mountain]

I originally wanted to enlist in Army and go 68W

[muted gate]

Because it won't because it's a pig

[grand mountain]

at least it's not a pig brig i guess

[muted gate]

the skd pig sucks

[old portal]

Well my last advice is this is stupid idea and don’t do it.

[grand mountain]

Yeah but the brig is slightly worse

[snow scarab]

seeing a lot of LBTs on that area now

[small pine]

Its his choice indeed and I cant just unsign his contract but I think its important for him to realise that it might not be as worth it as he could think it is

[low fox]

Here it is, yes airsoft mags, whooping meal team 6 with my minimal training is enjoyable

[grand mountain]

Oh don't get me wrong I think it's still a fucking stupid idea, but I can respect the moral aspect and the idea behind it

[muted gate]

that's because lbt dumped it to get load onto the market

and kind of became the standard

I've also been seeing a lot of those mid tier crye clones

[grand mountain]

we're at the point you can wear whatever you want and call it a russian impression kit

[low fox]

EmersonGear

[small pine]

In either case he will be amidst a bunch of unonowns. At least in the foreign legion he could speak english with the strangers imo

[old portal]

Put the TQ in an enclosed pouch

[grand mountain]

I would like to point out foreign legion, at least as far as I know, only really accepts people with mil/leo experience or adjacent

not like the early stages of the war where they took anyone

[low fox]

Hasn’t snagged yet, might do that

[grand mountain]

bro..

its not for snagging lmao

UV degrades TQs and increases risk of failure

[muted gate]

That was only initially

[grand mountain]

Gives it a higher chance to snap when you're putting it on

[grand mountain]

Did I have it backwards and now they take anyone?

[low fox]

I’ve got a primary one of my belt that’s covered, but fair point

[muted gate]

They only accepted guys with experience then, it was really selective and then some idiot took a geotagged location photo and then got them all blown up

[low fox]

I know what you’re referring to, and I don’t think so

[old portal]

It’s not about snagging. It’s about not having the Velcro completely destroyed from hours upon hours of prone under fire and it not holding when you need it because it was needlessly exposed to the elements

[grand mountain]

When the dude brings an MPU-5 or PRC-152 and gets his entire platoon tagged by a 155

[low fox]

That’s fair

[muted gate]

No it was worse he took a geotagged location on Instagram with like hashtag foreign Legion or something like that and the Russians were like oh and then blew it up

[small pine]

Snapchat selfie was worth it tho 😛

[grand mountain]

Yeah I remember that lol, I was making a joke about how having nice radios has gotten guys blown up

[low fox]

Aren’t MPU-5s like $15k lmao

[muted gate]

Do you know my personal favorite is that all you need to do was take A cell phone tagger initially and then you could ping where all the sim cards were and you overlaid that on where your guys were and then you bombed everything else

[grand mountain]

Cuz their bandwidth and power signature doesn't blend into the civilian electronics around and sticks out like a sore thumb

[grand mountain]

give or take

[small pine]

How can people communicate with radios these days anyway if the enemy can tap in?

[grand mountain]

encryption

[small pine]

Arent encryptions and station hoppings enough

Oh

[muted gate]

It's not about them tapping in, crypto is pretty good

the problem is that you can figure out where they're transmitting from by having three different towers

[old portal]

Encrypted…something he won’t have access to most likely.

[muted gate]

so all you need is just three different stations that can pick up radio signal And then you can measure the direction and distance based on how long it takes to ping

[grand mountain]

Basically having a wide band to prevent jams and good AES encryption

[low fox]

155 shell time!

[muted gate]

You then blow them all the way to fucking kingdom come

you're being so nonchalant about this but my guy if you're not shit posting you just enlisted into this

[low fox]

Oh I know damn well what I signed up for

[muted gate]

Yeah I'm just gonna rule this as fucking bait and go continue playing something

[low fox]

Fair enough

[grand mountain]

It's a double edged sword, the nicer radios will stick out from civilian wifi and power signatures but have encryption, cheap radios will blend in but can get tapped really easily

[old portal]

Sorry bro but you’re not mature enough for the experience you’re seeking. You come off as the private that thinks he’s ready for the shit until he steps in it. Combats cool until it isn’t

Just my opinion

[grand mountain]

real boot shit

Especially the disregarding the opinion of a literal combat vet

[old portal]

But you do you

[low fox]

Yeah, I’ve definitely come off as being that, will agree with ya there

[small pine]

When the target papers are able to shoot back 😳

[grand mountain]

nah bro id win, i do flat range drills you dont get it

ill have you know i have over 500 wins on warzone. you wouldnt get it you fucking civvy

[low fox]

Go outside

[grand mountain]

the irony

holy shit

[low fox]

Planning to be outside, in a trench

[grand mountain]

prolly not for long realistically

[small pine]

My AR has a double trigger boostplonger on it vro! I also got a shiny bigass scope on it and a tripod

[grand mountain]

i bought the scopeswitch bro, russians wont even know what hit em

[small pine]

Rolling out with the last gen night vision goggle only to get shot by a random guy with a thermal camera from Temu 😍

[grand mountain]

LOL

Dropping 3-4k on PVS-31As just to get dropped by a mortar shell because your buddy had to take pics for the insta

[low fox]

I like how I asked for any tips on what I should be bringing and got shit on lol. Enjoy your jump sprinting on labs while running a Gucci M4 in Tarkov

[low fox]

Lmaooo

[grand mountain]

i dont think anyone in this channel actually plays tarkov

[small pine]

Check out the likes though! 🤑

[grand mountain]

#irl-weapons and #irl-gear is its own ecosystem

[low fox]

Interesting

[low fox]

Thermals are better ngl

[grand mountain]

4 likes

[small pine]

💪

[grand mountain]

you wouldnt get the life of a real war influencer...

[low fox]

Aw :(

[grand mountain]

Anyway nobody is actually helping you because it's an impressively bad decision

Telling you not to go is legitimately better advice than helping you do it

[old portal]

That you’re not taking serious

[grand mountain]

as i've said even the combat vet is telling you it's fucking dumb

scratch that, ESPECIALLY the combat vet is telling you it's dumb

[low fox]

I’ve been in combat, you have too. I understand how dumb it is. That changes nothing

[old portal]

Please tell me what your combat experience is and where. I’m genuinely curious

[grand mountain]

do you guys think he went outside the wire

[low fox]

Automatic PKM fire 2 meters above my head is enough to know it fucking sucks to be shot at

[small pine]

I think a few people here are really disagreeing with your decision in general and a good advice would be to consider what they have to say since some of them have seen actual war and stop for a few hours and rethink your decision

[low fox]

It’s not that I disagree with them fully, but I also don’t see any other options currently.

[old portal]

Was this on a boat security detail

[low fox]

No

Jordan

[old portal]

Where

[small pine]

You could say the Iraq war and so on are outdated and the enemy were not so well armed but 7.62 among other calibers are still being used actively in Ukraine and each of those bullets, debris, shrapnel and so on is a potential deathbringer that can end your life there at that spot but not before feeling agony for some time

[small pine]

Why do you want to go to Ukraine so badly?

[grand mountain]

most recent wars have not been anything similar to peer-peer conflict

russia and ukraine is peer conflict and that makes it incredibly more dangerous

[small pine]

Whats wrong with just going out in a random forest and larping like idk u might get shit on for that but Id rather larp in a random ass place in the states shooting at trees instead of deploying in a random field where I can get killed without even firing a bullet of my own

[low fox]

Yeah, it’s not GWOT where one side has free reign to drop JDAMs on anything that shoots at them. Peer on Peer is a heck of a lot different

[low fox]

Because that doesn’t make a positive impact on the world.

[small pine]

Yeah and that's why we also see the increase of drone warfare to a point that makes this even deadlier than it was before

[low fox]

Drones are fucking terrifying

[small pine]

Idk how many times the US used their drone systems in Afghanistan and the Middle east

But their numbers are surely less than the civilian style drones which Ukraine and Russia used extensively for the past few months

[small pine]

But your possible death in Ukraine does?

[low fox]

That’s not a guarantee

[grand mountain]

the drones in ukraine are also arguably more lethal than the past drones. A reaper has bigger and better weapons, but the small FPV drones pretty much can't be shot down and you might not even notice it until your buddy's legs are gone

[small pine]

Yeah I redacted

[grand mountain]

You can also deploy the FPV drone without air superiority, something you wouldn't do with a MQ-9 really

[low fox]

Damn Houthis touching our drones

[small pine]

Exactly, Ive even heard some of those drones fly in literal swarms which makes them probably even more dangerous

[muted gate]

Why can't you just be fucking normal and larp in the god damn woods like everybody Else

Fuck it go to milsim west

[small pine]

Milsim west allows blank firing even so yeah

[low fox]

Where do y’all get enjoyment out of that?

[grand mountain]

not fucking dying

[small pine]

It makes a positive impact as well by having a good time with friends and making an impact in rhe community that partakes in this

[muted gate]

not fucking dying

[small pine]

Whats joyful in getting shelled

Getting shrapnels

[grand mountain]

phonk edits duh

[muted gate]

speaking of I can't wait until the mortar is actually come out from iwa

[small pine]

Or even surviving but being disabled after

[low fox]

Not a whole lot, interesting experience I can imagine

[small pine]

There are thousands of things that can get you killed in thete

[muted gate]

https://www.instagram.com/iwa_international_inc/p/C69sQ_pr8zD

[low fox]

I’ve got ComTacs, my hearing will be fine

[small pine]

Joining in the gwot era? Sure, chances were lower

But in Ukraine?

[grand mountain]

not how that works btw

[muted gate]

I can't wait to fucking man pack like 4 of these into an event because that'd be extremely goddamn funny

I need probably five guys per team

meaning I'd need about 20 people in total

[grand mountain]

Dude I'll run it with you, I've rucked heavier

[low fox]

Loud noise is less loud? Seems fine to me, care to elaborate?

[small pine]

Hey I think Ive seen those being used in milsim events

[grand mountain]

are you aware that headphones leak

[low fox]

Yeah

[small pine]

Pretty expensive tho but thats pretty neat

[muted gate]

These are new this is IWA trying to make one that isn't a destructive device according to the ATF

[grand mountain]

and that pressure from explosions can get under the cups

[low fox]

mhm

[muted gate]

I don't care if it's fucking for grand i'm still going to buy one because all it uses is signal 50 mill subcals

[low fox]

If it’s landing that close I’m already having a bad time

[grand mountain]

What about when you're loading for a buddy firing a shoulder launcher?

Marines were reportedly getting concussions just from firing their recoilless rifles in Iraq and Afghan

[low fox]

Don’t be directly behind him

[grand mountain]

this has got to be bait

[old portal]

Just be aware that if having some moron blindly fire a PKM in your general direction from a klick away is your idea of combat then I honestly feel for you. Come back and tell me if your opinion has changed once you’ve been pinned down in a shitty allyway trading frags with a stranger while hugging a 6 inch door recess. I believe you’re in for a rude awakening

[low fox]

M72 and AT-4 are all I’ve seen foreign legion use

[low fox]

Honestly fair enough

[grand mountain]

yeah I'll do everything I can to avoid fighting a war within reason

[small pine]

What can sigma edits and war media do to a man 😭

[low fox]

Y’all the ones LARPing in the woods

[small pine]

Yeah because its safer for everyone

Im not getting shot at

And I dont shoot ar nobody

[low fox]

I’ve seen a shitload of unedited CQB in Gaza and Ukraine, looks terrifying, but I’m not saying no.

[small pine]

And I still get thrill of it + Im outside

[muted gate]

No the best ones are cqb ones

[old portal]

Just wait til he’s laying face down on a rooftop with PKM fire burning right through the brick work and skipping around the rooftop overhead. He’s going to wishing that fire was 2m overhead again

[muted gate]

There is no doubt behind that, I hate fighting in open fields

[grand mountain]

im gonna do it (with an airsoft gun)

[low fox]

This coming from experience?

[grand mountain]

[old portal]

Absolutely and it sucks

[muted gate]

I forgot what you did in the army

[small pine]

Yeah getting shot with an airsoft is what I plan doing soon as well

[muted gate]

Werent you at 11 bang bang

[old portal]

11B

[grand mountain]

Tell him about the acog you broke avoiding an MG (?) burst

[muted gate]

do you want to feel old

[grand mountain]

I'd trust that man to defend my freedom

[muted gate]

I can make you feel old in three seconds

[low fox]

That is one fine looking 31B

[old portal]

Not quite kid

[grand mountain]

If I enlisted I wanted to go with 68W

[low fox]

You beat me to it lol, said 11B before I could get it out

[grand mountain]

I can't believe you called him an MP 😭

[muted gate]

https://preview.redd.it/teammates-us-army-2010-kit-for-afghan-themed-milsim-v0-r1skr1s04j8d1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=323aa672524dfc81f07ae21a97a2daa3d05af914

People are doing impressions 2009 gwot now

[grand mountain]

bro needs to hit the gym if he's gonna do that impression

[low fox]

That does not adhere to Army grooming standards

[muted gate]

People that were E threes in 2008 are now nearing their ETS dates

[grand mountain]

Dude does NOT fill out his gear

[muted gate]

no he doesn't

I'm telling you right now no he doesn't

[grand mountain]

Idk he looks a little slim for a grunt

[muted gate]

He isn't

let me get a photo

[low fox]

Thank you for your service

Can I ask exactly why you willingly went into that?

[old portal]

Thats a replacement RDS on the ACOG. The first was smashed to hell falling down a staircase avoiding a burst if gunfire. Combats fun

[grand mountain]

He hit the combat dive irl ^

[old portal]

9/11

[regal grotto]

"I would've joined"

[low fox]

75% of the people in this chat are the “I would’ve joined” type

[muted gate]

https://d1ldvf68ux039x.cloudfront.net/thumbs/photos/0903/161589/906w_q95.jpg

He isn't too thin

[plush topaz]

We have quite a few vets here

[regal grotto]

prob

idk

[low fox]

Hence 75%

You seen CQB in the IDF?

[grand mountain]

I'd say the amount of "I would've joined" types here is actually pretty low

[plush topaz]

No... Not aware of any actually.

[grand mountain]

Most of the people here are either vets/active duty or want nothing to do with joining

[muted gate]

Speaking of I got the go ahead to apply for the Mobilization

come to New Year i'll be out of country hopefully

[grand mountain]

I think I'm the closest to that anyone gets here cause I was gonna join and got told I can't for medical

[muted gate]

that is if I don't get fucked by the people I need to get to sign it

[low fox]

How fun

[plush topaz]

I am the CQB

[low fox]

Right

[plush topaz]

[grand mountain]

He carries a broadsword into battle. His enemies fear him

[small pine]

Enemy aint ready for the Scottish Claymore

[grand mountain]

It worked in WW2

[plush topaz]

All day every day

[grand mountain]

Then again they didn't have FPV drones in ww2 kek

[low fox]

That ain’t you

[grand mountain]

[plush topaz]

Oh ok

[small pine]

Imagine FPVs in Stalingrad

[muted gate]

Shut up Mr fucking "i'm going to use a law in close quarters And then share the photo of the guy afterwards"

half the time I'm waiting just to see your goddamn face on footage

[low fox]

Didn’t you have an X95

[muted gate]

Are you fucking stupid

[grand mountain]

You got called stolen valour by the private contractor. It's so over for you

[plush topaz]

HAHA

[muted gate]

Do you trust like the worst guy to argue about this

[small pine]

Do I get a ps5 if i scan the QR code on the m4?

[grand mountain]

you actually get a pc from msi with a 4060

common misconception

[small pine]

Omg

[grand mountain]

too late tho i already got it 🤑

[plush topaz]

I'll make it easy for you

[small pine]

And all I need to copypaste this discord link?? How sweet!

[muted gate]

Oh yeah did you ever sort out your whole fucking situation with the Codes?

[grand mountain]

Next the private contractor is gonna ask you to post a pic with your discord tag to prove your service

[plush topaz]

Yep. Thank you v

[muted gate]

Did your supply guy want to shoot himself when he was being putting all of it into excel

[low fox]

Nvm, that is indeed you, saw another IDF dude running an X95

My bad

[plush topaz]

My x95's are in a safe in Canada

[muted gate]

I wouldn't even want one over there

[low fox]

Canadian, with automatic firearms 👀

[muted gate]

The amount of fucking M4 that are shat out of everyone's ass

[plush topaz]

I'm not sure it was for my friends brothers unit.

[plush topaz]

They're semi

[low fox]

That’s sad

[plush topaz]

Even idf x95's are semi

[small pine]

Scanner cant read them 😭

[plush topaz]

It'd a data matrix code

[small pine]

What does it reveal

[muted gate]

It's literally just the serial cage code and part number

[small pine]

Oh

[muted gate]

the shit that's already on that tag plaintext is just what the code reveals

the army basically what they did was to make it easier when doing inventory they wanted it so you can be able to just scan it and it'll go into their scan software and be able to check whether it's in out who has it whatever

[small pine]

Pretty cool

[small pine]

@low fox Im getting back at it but I was just wondering, why opting for Ukraine anyway?

My understanding is that you wish to die whilst making a positive impact right?

Well, Ukraine isnt the only conflict currently happening so why did you decide to go in a conflict where your survival chances are probably the least possible

If you wish to make a positive impact while still being in the frontline, then why dont you consider other conflicts where your chances of death are actually lower yet your positive impact is actually just as good if not even better

[low zodiac]

We either do or do not, there is no try

This rhetoric is probably true for #airsoft

[grand mountain]

real

[plush topaz]

@small pine money

[coarse laurel]

You forget the people who just can’t meet standards

I.e too fat, or have health issues

[old portal]

Isn’t it or wasn’t something dumb like only 20% of the US population meet the standards to enlist but only 1% of that enlists?

[coarse laurel]

Even less than that now

It’s not that people aren’t interested in joining these days it’s just that the generation joining right now just have a lot of issues

Some stats from recruiters states that a lot of folks joining are getting older and older

[old portal]

I remember some odd statistics at some point. Out of the 1% that enlist 1% serve in the infantry

[coarse laurel]

Lol here in Benning when I see basic trainees they look like they are in their 30’s

[old portal]

Do they still say hooah in the army? Please tell me me it got lost along the way

[coarse laurel]

They still do lol

[old portal]

My god

[coarse laurel]

It will never go away

I’ve seen it mainly in tradoc and other units, we don’t say it here because people just yell airborne or ranger all the time here

The H word is frowned upon

[old portal]

Ya it was in all my units. You basically got jumped and shit on if heard using it

I’m convinced it’s a non combat arms motivational thing

[coarse laurel]

A lot of folks use it sarcastically to say affirmative

Especially during mass formations

[old portal]

I do recall the guys that would yell it extremely loud and very drawn out to sound like an idiot…clearly making fun of it

[coarse laurel]

Also means “ CSM shut the fuck up we wanna go home”

Yup

[old portal]

I don’t remember any of my CSMs using it. I really only remember the last two. One grew up at Bragg and constantly talked about LGOP and my last CSM grew up in regt…promoted out of RRC and did his last leg as our bn CSM. He definitely didn’t use it

[coarse laurel]

Lol it’s people telling CSM to hurry the fuck up

Because he talks too much

And it’s a Friday and people wanna go home

[old portal]

Ya I do recall some of those long ass 4 day weekend safety briefs

[coarse laurel]

Thankfully we don’t do formations here that often but my last unit was brutal since it’s Bliss

Just baking in the sun for final formation

During the hottest part of the day

[old portal]

We would usually have a bn formation for 4 day weekends but honestly it wasn’t much of a formation. Usually company formation then everyone just gaggled up around BN HQ

Then back to company formation for release I think was kinda the norm

[grand mountain]

i was going to enlist and MEPS told me to go fuck myself

so yknow

[coarse laurel]

Had a visit from a Japanese CSM last year I want his camo but it’s hard to get JGSDF camo

Dude’s a Japanese Ranger

Basically they’ve been sending more Japanese soldiers to Ranger school

[old portal]

That’s pretty awesome

But that walking stick tho

[muted gate]

See you only care now because you gotta be a recruiter

[coarse laurel]

Lol I’m not a recruiter yet

[muted gate]

And Genesis is a bitch

[coarse laurel]

Also personally in this unit we’re feeling the lack of people coming in

[muted gate]

I think they're at 100 percent survey right now for that

[coarse laurel]

Fuckin gains roster is 0

And folks are either PCS’ing or ETS’ing

[muted gate]

Bro we're feeling it too

[coarse laurel]

And at 40% manning

Mind you our optempo is fucking high as shit

[muted gate]

we might be at critical Manning within the next year

[coarse laurel]

That’s why I work 48 hour shifts

My NCOER better reflect lol

[muted gate]

It won't

[coarse laurel]

My senior rater knows better

[rich stag]

i am amazed you actually spotted that

[storm peak]

11/12 of ncos

[coarse laurel]

right in the kisser

[storm peak]

Adhd is waiverable if you've been off meds for a good minute

[grand mountain]

I actively take the adderall

[coarse laurel]

yeah, 12-24 months off meds depending on the MD looking at your physical

[grand mountain]

Basically can't function productively without it
(and the difference was noticeable within the first week before someone goes "hurr durr adhd meds get you addicted")

[coarse laurel]

yeah thats def an issue then

[grand mountain]

Plus even if I waivered all my medications I've got back problems

Honestly don't wanna make that worse

[coarse laurel]

im sure you understand the reason why folks get DQ'd right?

[muted gate]

What meps doesn't know won't hurt them (To the board that is reviewing my discord comments in the future, this is a fucking joke I have never lied to military entry processing nor do I encourage my practice)

[storm peak]

2 yrs without meds and you can enlist. Straight from the dodi

[grand mountain]

from what i understand they pull records now

[muted gate]

Genesis is weird

[coarse laurel]

there's a record number of folks getting fucked up in training

[grand mountain]

Yeah I still take adderall so even if I stopped taking them right now then I'd be halfway thru uni before I could even start to get a waiver lol

[muted gate]

basically they added the system that now pulls one 100 percent of records from every major medical doc And every major insurance

and The closer it is to the 100% acceptance rate for Genesis The more likely it's to be detected

[coarse laurel]

yes genesis can pull anything from, your EHR as long as it was within like 6 years or something anything before that was probably not even uploaded

[muted gate]

but like if you add something 10 years ago in a Podunk town you paid cash for They won't know about

[grand mountain]

yup. I've got chronic back problems, plus a bad knee from a childhood injury. I wanted to go 68W but that's never gonna happen

[muted gate]

it depends because they pull it from insurance companies and some went digital like 15 years ago

[grand mountain]

Right now we think it's either sciatica or multiple sclerosis

[muted gate]

Because you gotta remember that's like 2009

But then sometimes it doesn't pull shit that was only like a year ago

[coarse laurel]

only reason i hate genesis is i have to write people's notes when i treat them so they have record of it

[storm peak]

No more pocketing ketamine for you

[muted gate]

it's great though whenever you have to apply for va stuff except the fact that the va doesn't accept The army telling you that you're fucked up

[coarse laurel]

i may or may not still do just because this unit plays by its own rules

LOL

[muted gate]

I know a guy that had records From a premier army doctor saying that he was fucked up, it still took them seven years to ward them 100%

Because Veterans Affairs does not acknowledge the fact that the army says you're fucked up

[coarse laurel]

but i do have to record some things so we can get the funding

[storm peak]

Just steal all of the socom ifak filler kits and ebay them at like $30 a pop

[muted gate]

So I can't directly go to say Hey Yeah the army says you're broken But we can't accept that we have to send you the doctors and review it and then deny you the first time even though they said You're fucked up

( I had to help someone file and holy shit is it rere tier)

[rigid panther]

Lmao I got them eagle eyes

[coarse laurel]

i can guarantee you alot of the old timers also claiming that they have X injuries never got it recorded to begin with

[muted gate]

This guy had four white boxes full of paperwork that was all recorded because he printed out his medical record before he got out

I'm telling you not this guy

[rigid panther]

Best patch of 2024

[storm peak]

[muted gate]

It was so funny too because the VA basically told him yeah we don't acknowledge that you have a busted back and busted knees and busted angles and busted hands and busted elbows

Despite the fact that Big Army gave you a fuck load of permanent profiles for it

[coarse laurel]

theres 3 years worth of SF600's from Ranger alone staring at me when i go to my office lol

[rigid panther]

You'll get over it

[coarse laurel]

yet to be uploaded

lol

[muted gate]

You should like probably do that

[coarse laurel]

slowly making a dent

doesnt help that half the time im out in the woods

[muted gate]

The good thing though is that now everything is now in Genesis so that if you get fucked up and you go to any doc in the army it all just gets uploaded

[storm peak]

Burn it

[muted gate]

So now all that shit where it's like oh they didn't get it documented Kind of isnt a thing anymore

[storm peak]

Fuck their disability ratings, they ain't you, shredder time

[coarse laurel]

most of them are IBOLC LT's anyways

fuckin nerds

lol

[storm peak]

Perfect, most of them will be out in 2 years

[muted gate]

Speaking of fucking shit like that I'm so fucking tempted to go and try to see if I can get a no shave profile

so fucking tempted But I don't want to be that guy

[storm peak]

Why

[muted gate]

Cause every time I see it I just think they look like a shit bag

[coarse laurel]

CSM Weimer says you gotta shave 3 times a day, including your balls

[storm peak]

Why be that guy who's stuck in garrison slick sleeving it up with a beard

[muted gate]

that's why I'm not doing it

Dude we have so many of them it's not even funny

[coarse laurel]

@storm peak he's guard so depending on his unit he can probably get away with it

[muted gate]

One weekend a month baby

[coarse laurel]

ive seen some ate up bags of asses from the guard coming through bliss for mob

[muted gate]

it's so bad

they can't even shoot

[storm peak]

Unironically what he is describing, of how often some white dude had a viking beard appears, is a real thing in RA

[coarse laurel]

there's one doing gate guard at benning right now

every fucking day

taunting me with his beard

[muted gate]

You are kidding but we have a legit fuckin pagan in bct

Dude was trying so hard for that waiver

[coarse laurel]

for the pastafarians, they should be wearing a pasta strainer instead of an ACH

[storm peak]

I got words I want to call them but I can't say it here or in person

[muted gate]

bro No you're missing the funniest joke, they just cut fucking delta helmet speed holes

[coarse laurel]

special forces use to wear bicycle helmets like special people do now

[storm peak]

Bump helmets are nice for jumps

[muted gate]

That's what I'm saying, you just get them to cut the bicycle helmet holes in their ACH

Also what do the whole fucking rumor that they're trying to get rid of the new acft and go back to the apt whatever the fuck it is

I hope to God they aren't

[coarse laurel]

so here in benning i heard they took out the TW bumps from the CAASOP lol

[storm peak]

I welcome going back to the apft

Too many fatties now

[coarse laurel]

idk if they were bullshitting

[muted gate]

I don't because I like the current test

we're going back to Garrison anyway who gives us shit

Don't ruin this for me

[storm peak]

It all depends on your authorized equipment memo from your bn/bde. 5th let's you use HHV bumps for jumps

[coarse laurel]

yeah i think its someone's TW bump that got em fucked up so they are only allowing opscores, ihps and ach's for now

funny enough my guys in RSLC ordered a bunch of TW bumps that are just sitting in boxes right now

since its kinda pointless

[muted gate]

And suddenly they're authorized again

[storm peak]

I mean it's what they get for buying team wendy

[coarse laurel]

mf's being cheap thats why

since its a GPC purchase

[storm peak]

Nah you don't got cheap on GPC

They made the mistake

[coarse laurel]

we already spending big on a new couch

for our break room

LOL

[storm peak]

Beer fridge

Is a must

[coarse laurel]

yes it is

we have a deep freezer just because we BBQ every end of cycle

and a smoker out back

[muted gate]

I know of armories that used to have entire bars

And then they suddenly had to go away

[coarse laurel]

we have a bar in our compound but its being renovated slowly right now

since the ones working on it are extra duty MF's and soldiers during their free time

[low zodiac]

They do this in our rotc battalion and it’s very funny

HOOOHHHUUHHHH will be heard coming from the middle of us as soon as they end whatever event we are attending

[plush topaz]

Did I show you that?

Omg lol

[muted gate]

YES

YES YOU DDID

[plush topaz]

HAHA

So then you've met Sergeant Chris P. Bacon

[muted gate]

SEVERAL TIMES

[plush topaz]

[muted gate]

"HEY WANNA SEE A DUDE IN A BODY BAG BURNED TO A CRISP"

[plush topaz]

@muted gate

[muted gate]

Im ignoring that. Im gonna take a nap

[old portal]

You got extra duty building a bar????

[coarse laurel]

yeah lmao, manual labor

we made them sand all the wood

and strip the wall

[old portal]

wtf. All I ever saw ED do was dig giant fighting positions. Fill it in. Rinse and repeat.

[coarse laurel]

lol i mean we're not in a deployed setting right now

so naturally bitch work goes to extra duty

and all the shitty details like staff duty

[old portal]

That was stateside. There may have been more details done by ED that I’m unaware of or forgetting but I really just remember this one spot that dug /filled/dug/filled

It was a good deterrent for stupidity I feel like. Pure misery for all to see

[thick jasper]

what does it say

[plush topaz]

The nation of Israel lives

[low fox]

W

Yeah folks, it’s confirmed, heading to Ukraine. Gotta start packing.

[plush topaz]

What will be your role there?

Hopefully some static stuff in the rear

[old portal]

🤦‍♂️

[old portal]

Did the posts go away from private/civilian gate guards and put it back on the MPs?

[coarse laurel]

only place I’ve seen MP’s on gate guard is Knox or unless the FPCON changes

Here and in bliss it’s civilians and red cycle tasking dudes

[old portal]

Ya i never once saw a soldier on a gate. It was always civilian contractors,usually pretty old if I remember correctly

[small pine]

Kinda sad but I do hope you make it out somehow

[low fox]

Still got civis on the gates at the naval air station I’m working by, as if the MPs needed even less to do

[low fox]

Sad? How so

[low fox]

Why do you yourself go into those combat roles? What makes it worthwhile for you?

[small pine]

Well... You are going to fuckin war? I think that's at least partly sad

[low fox]

I don’t see it that way

What’s sad is the civilians effected by the war

[small pine]

You think this war is of a better interest than one of governments?

[low fox]

Can you elaborate?

[small pine]

To be quite frank that conflict is more or less a battle between the two governments for nothing more than profit. Russias interest is only geopolitical because holding Ukraine gives them some kind of advantage against NATO. Ukraine on the other hand also has a geopolitical interest in continuing the war but not because of their defence of their people or any other similar bs. Zelensky's administration continues the bloodshed because the aid and the funds that they receive from foreign nations benefits the government, meaning that the continuation of this war proves beneficial for them, but can you say that for the countless civilians who live in that country?

If Ukraine really had their best intentions for its citizens then they would have ended the conflict in order to avoid civilian casualties but they dont do that because thats just not profitable

So basically, your potential positive impact on this conflict may sadly fall short

[small pine]

Which is how most of the recent conflicts operate

Purely out of a monetary incentive and the potential profit that can be gained

I can probably find all this in a better put manner but my brain is a bit of a mush rn

[low fox]

That sounds really conspiratorial. I am highly doubtful Ukraine is doing this for economic benefit. Russia is a direct threat to the western world along with China. Fighting Russia in Ukraine is showing China that hostile imperialism will not be tolerated on the world stage. Hopefully preventing an all out war in Asia. Fighting Russia benefits all of NATO and weakens the two largest threats to the modern world as we know it. I’m all for the crippling of the Russian and the Chinese states. If I can be a part of that, then I absolutely will be.

Plus, what does Ukraine financially benefit from old M2 Bradley’s and Abraham’s tanks? (and other technology, they can’t sell it, who’s getting richer here? American defense companies, but that shouldn’t make Ukraine want to continue a war)

You can’t tell me as a sovereign nation that if you were attacked you wouldn’t push back against those attacking you.

[small pine]

Ukraine does not only get military aid

A lot of financial funding gets funneled through it

And earlier during the war Ukraine even began selling some government properties for private bidders

[small pine]

Russia is not a direct threat, it is an indirect one

Proxy wars have been the main way to do warfare for the past few decades and a direct conflict between NATO and Russia/China had never and probably never will occur because neither side will wish to risk a nuclear war

Not only that, but large scale conflicts prove extremely unprofitable

The mil industry would be incapable to produce the necessary upkeep for such a war in a long period of time due to the relative scarcity of resources, thus exhausting finite energy for a conflict whilst yielding lesser profit out of it all

Those are merely my own observations ofcourse, but so far nothing leads me to believe that world war three or a conflict (direct) between Russia and NATO could occur anytime soon

[old portal]

Hes fighting for his country. You say you dont want to join the US military because you dont trust the command structure but you're trying to join into a foreign military that will have a shitty command structure just to experience combat. Honestly i think you are romanticizing the idea of war and what its like to kill another person. Its not great I can assure you that

[small pine]

Id dare say the US command structure would be much more competent than one of a clearly war ravaged nation

And the fact you have no real allegiance to that country is also a good point. If positive impact is what you are looking for then you could really find other places where first of all your risk of death is less likely and your impact could be even greater

[plush topaz]

I'm defending my country.

I didn't ask your motivations. Rather your role. But I'm more than happy to hear both.

[muted gate]

Go join the fuckin Peace Corps

[low zodiac]

thats like if the united states gave up hawaii in ww2 to try and reduce civilian casualties

that is their homeland, regardless of what nation it is nobody should give up their country

[small pine]

To forcefully conscript people who are unwilling to go die for their country is merely a desperate way to defend the ruling government

Not a homeland

The conflict should have ended when the amount of actively enlisted personel was incapable of conducting any military operations any longer

And not a process that exhausted so much manpower that Ukraine now tries conscripting criminals and women

[small pine]

Is Ukraine the US and Russia Hawaii?

[low zodiac]

we dont speak german because of the draft, our nations identity is worth fighting for

i wouldnt give my life for ukraine but i 100% would for america

[muted gate]

The example that he's using is that the lpr and dpr are Hawaii

not to get into the politics of it but the stance of the Ukrainian government is at the lpr and dpr were not proper votes and are occupied territory

it's the same story with Georgia and the 2008 invasion

[low zodiac]

the ukrainians are experiencing an invasion just like the united states did in 1941

itd be insane if they just rolled over and gave up

like i said, thats the same with any nation

[small pine]

You are trying to compare two extremely different countries in a situation that precisely focuses on Ukraine, not the US

[low zodiac]

if i was born and raised in ukraine id probably want to fight for its existence too

[small pine]

Then go ahead

But its not fair for those who dont want to

[low zodiac]

i am, for my country

[small pine]

Go and fight for its existence

Thats fair, the problem at hand is that Ukraine long ago exhausted a lot of their initially enlisted men on the battlefield

[muted gate]

I mean that is untrue going by casualty figures here

[small pine]

And now they are drafting people who dont want to deal with that at least mostly

[low zodiac]

nobody deserves to have their homeland invaded and destroyed, russian, ukrainian, american, whatever

[low zodiac]

you think that volunteer fighters want to go to war? nobody does, its fuckin war

[small pine]

That is true, but if the volunteers wouldnt want war, then what is left for those who didnt even volunteer

My point is that its not fair for the draftees to get drafted into a meatgrinder which should have ended at least a year ago

Because a great deal of the fighting Ukrainian men would be draftees by now

If the men of a nation dont wish to defend their country, then why should the government wish to continue the war

[low zodiac]

62% of american soldiers were draftees in ww2

does that mean the united states shouldve just given up?

(no)

they died so that we could live in a better world, free from occupation of the enemy

[small pine]

Fair point but then I guess it is purely situational

I suppose a lot of Soviets were drafted too

[low zodiac]

especially the soviets

to the ukranians its the same exact principle, if they dont fight for their way of life itll be destroyed

[small pine]

Well I doubt their culture would get so destroyed considering both nations are alike both in how their government and economy function and how their people live

But I agree with you on that

[low zodiac]

thats like saying france isnt so different from nazi germany because they are very close together

sure, they might not behead everybody, but theyll 100% significantly alter the way of life for everyone in that country and still hurt a bunch of innocent people

[small pine]

France and Germany were pretty different though

What Im saying is that

[low zodiac]

russia and ukraine are pretty different countries too