irl-gear

[muted gate]

love the optic

hate the rifle

[coarse laurel]

@muted gate have you shot it yet?

Or is this just wargaming?

[muted gate]

nah, got to toy with one tho from a joint near me

wasnt a fan

[coarse laurel]

I’ve gotten healthy trigger time with it, I like it enough the only thing I will say though is this shit is front heavy as hell, they should have opted for slightly heavier stock to counter balance

I’ve shot both the 7.62x51 and the 6.8 variant

[muted gate]

Doesn't that shit have the same problem that you had with the gen 1 MCX with the front rail flex

I remember the one that I had my hand on it was not doing hot

[coarse laurel]

At least it’s not as bad as the fucking M110A1

[coarse laurel]

The ones that were used in BRC had improved barrel clamps on it, sig reps installed them on all the competitor rifles

Hopefully that’s the standard when the fully field this

[muted gate]

I don't even know what the fucking standard is going to be anymore because they keep changing it every like three months and I haven't followed it in a while

like I remember hearing that they changed it so that they're deleting the T handle Or they're deleting the side charger or something like that

and then I know they added a new rail for some reason

[coarse laurel]

It’s technically still it’s in trial period, they have some time before they fully roll this shit out, but judging from the M17 program there’s gonna be some teething issues for sure

[muted gate]

Isn't it weird that the commander is so calm, after he retired from the military just went straight into the board of directors for sig

man that's so weird

it was like right after the trial too right man, and how sig didn't need to do any of the trial parameters and kind of just got lowest biddered, and then chosen despite the fact that people were like "why don't we make a Glock the service pistol Because they actually added the safety that we wanted"

man so fucking weird

I know this is how contracts go i'm just still a bit salty

[coarse laurel]

Cost

And under the table handjobs

[compact dagger]

Idk whenever people show pics of their kits i keep seeing like 3-4 mags, except when Izu posts

[snow scarab]

95% of them are civilians. they don’t really need a full combat load

[compact dagger]

yea ig, to me some of them looked military issued

anyhow, still hate that I can't find a good way to set up mine

could put some of it on the belt, but then my rig is too low and getting mags out of left side is a bitch to deal with, plus for this training we are about to go on i'm the radioman and can't figure out where to put that radio

and where to put water

[coarse laurel]

I keep 7 the mags are just in different places like my belt or in my rear pack

https://www.cryeprecision.com/Side-Pull-Mag-Pouch

Something like this

[compact dagger]

Right side wouldn't work for me because here they're autistic about us only reloading with the dominant hand on the grip

when I reloaded holding the gun by the handguard in my left hand they got mad

If not for that i'd set up my stuff better

but yea this type of pouch would be dope

then I could just double stack it, and wouldn't need a side pouch

but it would be ass to go prone

for now I have a triple pouch in the middle and doubles to the either side

[grand mountain]

I run 3 on my chest, 2 in a double on my left cb, and one on my belt on the left

[plush topaz]

I don't carry a war load when I'm Larping

Unnecessary weight

[plush topaz]

If your vest interferes with your waist then it sits too low

[grand mountain]

I do

And then I have to take a knee every 5 minutes

[plush topaz]

😂

[grand mountain]

Needa do more cardio ngl

[nocturne crest]

Most people outside the military here mimic the hi-speed guys who fly in with 4 mags, and fly out

I say return to jungle rigs

[grand mountain]

im trying to avoid this

[nocturne crest]

Nothing wrong with doing it, but its not really viable if you're into prepping stuff

[grand mountain]

Yeah I'm trying to look more realistic with my kit

Because every field doesn't need 20 guys who were all CAG Navy Seal Devgru Ranger Green Berets

[nocturne crest]

They do be looking cool though

[grand mountain]

It's also funny when guys try to mimic special forces by going super high speed and light when in reality special forces is rucking more than infantry most of the time

[nocturne crest]

Just depends what flavor you pick

[grand mountain]

I'm talking mostly about green berets

Cause those guys will go out for upwards of weeks at a time and you've got like 5 dudes, often with no vehicle, sustaining themselves in the desert for weeks or more

Those rucks cannot be light

[nocturne crest]

Im pretty sure theres a couple vets in here that are more well versed on all that stuff

Like ragged's slow typin ass

[grand mountain]

lmfao I'm just waiting for the paragraph telling me why I'm wrong

(Cause I'm a civilian, I fully expect to be wrong about this kinda shit half the time)

[old portal]

I have no dog in this fight because I’m no longer affected by it. Not my problem. My concern with it though is if they are doing this strictly for more reliable “stopping power”, significantly lowering the combat load in exchange for this stopping power doesn’t take into account that the majority of rounds fired in combat don’t meet targets and are for the purpose of fire and maneuver. Stopping power means nothing with those rounds fired. You just have significantly less readily available ammo on hand you’ve exchanged for meaningless stopping power

[nocturne crest]

I like how the excuse is because of russian, and chinese body armor. But its been shown that they cant even fully equip their forces with level 4 plates

[grand mountain]

Can't even fully equip their forces with uniforms, plate carriers, helmets, guns, or plates*

[nocturne crest]

Gotta do a quick mosin run

[grand mountain]

Your squad leader died so it's your turn with the gun from 1956

"Back in my day, we had a mosin and a stick. And we had to share the mosin!"

[marsh flint]

I want to see you running a mile with your gear

Not in a perverted way.

[grand mountain]

It'll take me like 20-25 minutes but I prolly can

[marsh flint]

Ok

[grand mountain]

I don't really carry that much

[marsh flint]

You should do that far far lesser time

If you are preparing for something

[grand mountain]

I'm not really

[marsh flint]

Ok

[grand mountain]

• physical stuff is hard for me medically which is why I didn't enlist

[marsh flint]

Oh yea

Sorry I forgot

[grand mountain]

No you're good

I'm trying to figure out what's actually wrong with me and hopefully fix it

Still won't be able to enlist but I might be able to actually hit the gym and shit then

[marsh flint]

Aaw

Yeah you don't have to

[grand mountain]

I have prescriptions that keep me from enlisting regardless (adderall)

[marsh flint]

Oh yeah

[grand mountain]

When I was a kid I wanted to be a ranger but now I realize ain't no way lmao

[marsh flint]

ADHD or ADD

[grand mountain]

adhd

[marsh flint]

Yeah The US consider that a disability

Or something

[grand mountain]

If I were to enlist I'd have to stop taking it for like

2 years(?) before I can even start getting a waiver for it

[marsh flint]

Yeah I think it's the meds

[grand mountain]

Yeah even with the diagnosis you can enlist

I've heard the army is actually really good for people with adhd since everything's on a forced schedule

Part of what made me wanna join

[marsh flint]

A friend of my served full time but he couldnt fire a weapon...

Since he had some psych affecting meds for his back

[grand mountain]

military always needs support staff ig

[marsh flint]

But he had to clean the rifle he never shot

Kinda fucked up?

[grand mountain]

Yeah that's like teasing

Shooting is fun and they're just rubbing it in that he didn't get to lol

[marsh flint]

Yeah ..

But now he has been at the commercial shooting ranges and subscribed for memberships

He has not been on meds for like 15 years

[grand mountain]

I haven't shot in like

maybe 2 years now

I need to go out again, I've got a lot of 5.56 I need to get through

[static vortex]

your 12 wdym you have a lot of 5.56 to go through wtf

[grand mountain]

...what?

[subtle cosmos]

Autism

[compact dagger]

If I get it higher then it'll be annoying to reload

Since magswill be too high

[plush topaz]

Got pics?

[cobalt bramble]

so i got a bit of an issue the crye dump pouch has reversed Velcro for the JPC but i dont think my MMAC aero (still in the mail to) has that so i was wondering what the best course of action would be. should i get the correct velcro sides and just glue them on or should i take a seem ripper to it and then sew the velcro back on in the correct way. using this dump pouch is kinda a non negotiable cause it has features that are very desirable to me so just returning the dump pouch and buying something else is off the table so if yall have any good ideas or of you can add something to the ideas i previously mentioned please do.

[plush topaz]

You're hanging a dump pouch off your carrier?

[cobalt bramble]

Yes

I don’t like belts

I know it’s not very socially acceptable right now to not like belts but I just don’t like them. I find them be a hassle

Plus, it’s not necessarily just a dump pouch when I’ve ran dump pouches before it usually ends up getting used for everything from carrying water to carrying extra ammo. It’s just an extra compartment on my plate carrier that I can reach instead of putting storage space in places where I can’t reach like the rear of the cummerbund or on my rear plate bag.

[plush topaz]

Understood. What about a molle Velcro panel?

[cobalt bramble]

The way the front of the carrier is set up is there’s the kangaroo pouch with three mags and a BFG 10 speed on top so I don’t think that would really work either. Plus, I don’t think the Velcro would still be oriented correctly the hook faces out. And the loop faces in which is the opposite of how it’s normally supposed to be.

It’s cryes dump pouch for the JPC so of course there has to be some degree of proprietary bullshit unfortunately it’s just a really really nice pouch and I want to use it on my new carrier

I think I’m gonna have to end up doing some funky mods to it to make it work which isn’t a big deal it’s just a little annoying

I Need to go buy some Velcro material

Need to buy it anyway for a custom job I’m doing on my buddy’s Mich2000

[shut escarp]

I mean even competitions are often only 1 max 3 reloads per stage. Soo yeh.

[shut escarp]

Try plates at all... Heck some ruskis were using plywood/cardboard

[grand mountain]

There are front dumps that go under your placard/front panel

I've considered trying one

[plush topaz]

Indeed

I tried one once. And knocked myself in the nuts. Never again

[grand mountain]

Once I finally get a GP for my bund I might pick up a front dump to try since my belt dump isn't super accessible

[grand mountain]

How low does your carrier hang lmao

[plush topaz]

The dumo pouch hangs

I use a maxpedition dump pouch on my belt. Folds up to nothing. I love it

With a draw string

[grand mountain]

yeah I guess it might hang lower than I thought, my dangler only covers my gut but I still feel like the dump wouldn't hang low enough to nut tap me

[grand mountain]

I'm planning on picking up an arbor arms dump with the mag insert

[plush topaz]

I don't know what that is

[plush topaz]

It does. Trust.

And it isn't pleasant

Plus the amount of times I'm prone and crouched. Shit will spill. Dig into my stomach. Not great

[grand mountain]

Just a dump that doubles as a mag pouch

[timber fog]

That’s interesting

[grand mountain]

The downside is it costs like $70 with the mag insert

[plush topaz]

Oh I like this

Worth it imo

Doubles as extra accessible magazine holder

You can of course fill it with magazines lol

[grand mountain]

I wanna replace my dump of unknown branding with it

[plush topaz]

I loaded mine with frags in Gaza

[grand mountain]

I don't reload often so my dump is mainly for my grenades

[plush topaz]

My pants nearly fell off

[grand mountain]

Since once the shell is popped you can't really toss it back into the pouch

[plush topaz]

What do you mean

[grand mountain]

I'm talking about airsoft

I use thunder devils which puncture a co2 cart to blow the shell open

Once it's popped it's too wide to reindex into the grenade pouch (plus the loose pins) so I use my dump for them

[snow scarab]

what about them is a hassle?

[cobalt bramble]

I just don’t like having to think about it it’s one more piece of kit to spend money on and worry about

[snow scarab]

i mean sure, but it’s an incredible piece of kit

i used to think belts were overrated too until i built one out to use

from using dumps, having extra medical and your emergency reload magazine being there and your sidearm, it’s incredible

[cobalt bramble]

I will build one out eventually but Im waiting till I’m a bit more financially stable

[snow scarab]

plus it takes things off your vest and moves it to your waist

[cobalt bramble]

Also not sure what belt I want to get yet

[snow scarab]

don’t have to break the bank honestly. esstac inner with an S&S outer

like 100 bucks

[cobalt bramble]

Fair enough

[grand mountain]

I got my aws smu for like $65 secondhand from a friend

If you're a twink he might still have one

They retail for like $160

[storm peak]

Isn't this entirely counterintuitive to what the dump pouch is suppose to be

Why turn your dump pouch into a mag pouch when you can just have mag pouches and a dump pouch

[marsh flint]

[grand mountain]

Adding another mag pouch would take real estate on the belt

Not an issue for most people but if you're carrying a lot then it can be a problem

I don't think it's counterintuitive because I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually take up space inside of the dump

[storm peak]

It comes into an issue when you can't actually use the dump pouch and how you now have a weighted dangler

[grand mountain]

Wdym?

[storm peak]

Make space or simply use a 6 mag pouch instead of a 3 mag insert

[grand mountain]

I don't think it prevents use of the pouch in any way

[storm peak]

Takes up space in the hole

Going to be fumble fucking even more to put mags in

Whole thing is a case of weird niche stuff that'll never make it anywhere

[plush topaz]

You wouldn't use it as a dump pouch if you're using it as a mag pouch

At least ideally

For the exact reasons you mentioned

[plush topaz]

What's on your belt?

[grand mountain]

Not enough for space to matter

yet, that is

By the time my kit is finished I intend to have a full war load between carrier and belt

[plush topaz]

I have one ar magazine. One frag pouch one TQ pouch one dump pouch one ifak and a quick draw bandage and TQ

And I still have space if needed

[grand mountain]

Belt will be (so far) ifak, 2 mag pouches for both m4 and pistol, pistol holster, dump, a retention lanyard (larp), multitool, and maybe other things if I end up realizing I need something

Oh and a grenade

Maybe a nalgene pouch, depends on if I have space on my plate carrier to put that instead when I do get it

[storm peak]

Why Nalgene pouch

Just get a molle camelback insert

[grand mountain]

ive looked into the qore ice plates as well

[storm peak]

Let me put you onto something that I was issued that's amazing
https://atstacticalgear.com/slimline-100-oz-hydro-carrier/

[grand mountain]

Weirdly affordable

I have a camelbak but not sure how many oz it holds

[storm peak]

It was made locally, super small company

110% worth a pickup

[grand mountain]

nvm i guess someone threw my camelbak away

it was still in its packaging and in the bag they put it in at the surplus store so I guess it looked like a trash bag

[grand mountain]

What kinda bladder would you recommend for it

Or does it come with one?

I highly doubt it would since it's so cheap but

[storm peak]

It doesn't come with one, it's just the pouch. Ats does have bladders for it on the website, I didn't know they had bladders when I was issued the carrier. I ended up getting something at at the px that fit perfectly

[grand mountain]

Alright

[storm peak]

You put keymo on her quick

[grand mountain]

Thank you, might look into one

[storm peak]

Np bro

[grand mountain]

Still kinda interested in the qore ice plate

Especially for days as hot as yesterday

Had sweat running from my balls to my legs. Haven't sweat as much since marching season

[coarse laurel]

oh god i meant to post that on the airshit channel lmao

[storm peak]

Lmao airshit cringe

Had me fooled

[coarse laurel]

i got my hands on a licensed version of this replica

[storm peak]

Slap some ice up in the camelback

[grand mountain]

Running the qore under the back plate is what attracts me about it

Since you can basically just have a block of ice right up against your back

[storm peak]

It doesn't sound pleasant

Moisture while chaffing

Hot spots gallore

[coarse laurel]

It’s just extra weight

[grand mountain]

I haven't really had chafe with my carrier

[coarse laurel]

Just drink more water, and wear an actual honest to god plate carrier that’s airable you will be hot either way

Just be thankful you aren’t gonna be wearing it for days on end

[storm peak]

People talked shit about my spiritus otb but she was hella breathable

[plush topaz]

The entire back of my spiritus lv119 plate bags are quick dry material

I love it

[wise nest]

yeahhh dont do this. Cold water is worse for hydration than ambient temp

[marsh flint]

Have you tried those filter everything straws

[storm peak]

Ice goes in the camelback because I don't want to drink hot water

[plush topaz]

Milspec camelbaks have great insulation

Water never gets hot

But I also put ice lol

[marsh flint]

Yeah camelbaks been there such a long time it just can't be shit

[plush topaz]

No other company compares

I was given a condor bladder the day I went into Gaza. It exploded before I got out of the hummer

"this place is under 24 hour surveillance"

Statue with nods

[muted gate]

That's not just a statue man, thats the vaporwave bust

https://youtu.be/_4gl-FX2RvI?

[plush topaz]

Ew sightmark

[dim perch]

Lol I know 🤣

[snow scarab]

nice patches

[thorn narwhal]

https://wethepeopleholsters.com/products/belly-band-holster?variant=40593748885602

Are these kind of holsters any good?

[carmine shale]

My legs are btfo

Saturday was rough

[carmine shale]

For edc?

[thorn narwhal]

yeah, if im wearing shorts or smth that doesnt have a belt

[echo jay]

Get a phlster enigma

[carmine shale]

This

[barren pebble]

mf f/a?

[harsh crown]

Just looking at the comment count i can tell hes getting absolutely raked over the coals

[marsh flint]

Yup

Tactical belly

Also rifle straight from cabelas 459.90

[grand mountain]

"come and take it libruls" roflmao

[empty sorrel]

sightmark
Drum mags
Zero attachments

[brave quartz]

Lmao

[empty sorrel]

I'm tempted to call it cultural appropriation

[grand mountain]

black plate carrier

[carmine shale]

**** shooter kit

[carmine shale]

Jesus Christ

I THOUGHT I LOOKED BAD

[empty sorrel]

its not a DD rifle, not a shooter kit

[unborn bramble]

Jokes on you, I'm behind 5 types of diabetes.

[carmine shale]

Idk they might have a budget cut

Nashville was a keltec

[empty sorrel]

fair point

[rigid sequoia]

Murihcu

So, I said a few days ago I’d try to get my hands on some plates to punch.

I was not able to get ahold of ESAPIs for cheap enough to justify shooting them, but I did speak with the local distributor of the Steels I wear (yes not the most optimal armor ever) and they offered me a free side plate so long as it was returned post testing with a video. So I’ll have that data soon

I am only hitting them with shit they aren’t rated for in .308

[ashen edge]

got a mint PASGT with pamphlet and inspection slip for 85

[small pine]

He dont need armor, armor slows him down and he needs to be mobile

[small pine]

Thats prob satire but if it aint then you clearly underestimate the russian army

[grand mountain]

HAHAHAHAHAHA'

ukraine

lmfao

[small pine]

Besides thats outside what I was trying to say

Never underestimate an enemy

[grand walrus]

No politics

[pseudo fossil]

Halo 2 is life!!!

[rigid sequoia]

I do have videos but they need editing

[twilit cape]

hes chubby by hes not wrong

[old portal]

You don’t need to shoot ESAPI, you need to shoot what ESAPI is rated to stop. Until then the field test holds no weight. ESAPI is better than any wearable steel in regards to stop/weight ratio

[rigid sequoia]

The 168gr threw the plate pretty hard, roughly 5 yards

[rigid sequoia]

I don’t doubt that, those are rounds it’s not rated to stop that it was hit by

More so proving that kid who said you’d shatter every rib in your body via a single .308 to be a little exaggerated

Otherwise it’s cool to get to shoot shit

Here’s it getting thrown for anyone who thinks it’s cool

This was 168gr Hornady Black A-Max.
2700 fps

[nocturne crest]

I hear this from fat mfers all the time

Like no dude you needed to be mobile 150lbs ago

[old portal]

I still think you’d shatter ribs. Energy is transferred differently through steel compared to advanced ceramics

There’s a terminal ballistic reason certain materials are chosen over others. Weight is not the only deciding factor

[nocturne crest]

Even with an anti spall coating you're going to get fucked by spalling if you're wearing steel.

Im sure this was argued about earlier, but honestly.

[grand mountain]

blunt trauma, inertia and energy transfer, spalling, weight, etc

ceramics are kind of objectively better imo

[old portal]

Either way to each his own. I’ve seen personally what ESAPIs capabilities and failings are in combat. I’ll take an ESAPI over anything until something better is proven itself

[grand mountain]

yeah everything i say is from an armchair operator civilian perspective lol

[nocturne crest]

Id just rather not have a piece of spalling go into my neck, and make me bleed out if I can help it

[grand mountain]

Dumb opinion

it's part of The Experience™

(the experience is bleeding out)

[nocturne crest]

Bleeding out with the homies

[grand mountain]

homie puts a tq on your neck to save you

[nocturne crest]

Didnt some CHAZ/CHOP kids do that during the riots or something lmao

[grand mountain]

I have no idea but it sounds like it'd happen lol

[old portal]

Don’t mention that shithole. I live about 90 minutes south of it. Wish it didn’t exist

[nocturne crest]

God that was probably so fun to deal with

[old portal]

Needs to become like escape from LA..the only law and order is snake plisken

[nocturne crest]

As long as I can catch a sick wave like he did

[old portal]

Only thing you catching there is your car stolen or perhaps an OD..voluntary or involuntary

[grand mountain]

or herpes/hiv/etc

[old portal]

That’s just a given. Doesn’t even need a mention. It’s as sure as birth and death

[rigid sequoia]

Think so even with some nice trauma pads?

[old portal]

Absolutely

[muted gate]

If you get squacked with a 30hate

you're breaking something

[old portal]

I’ve seen first hand the blunt trauma still present with ESAPI+ soft Kevlar liner.

Heck I took a ricochet in the vest in 07. I would hate to feel even that against steel

[grand mountain]

yeah plates arent meant to make you immune to bullets, just to keep you from being unsaveable

[rigid sequoia]

According to the local distributor of these plates, he’s been going out of stock with how many are being purchased and sent over to Ukraine, told me they’ve claimed some dude caught a 54r to the rear plate at an angle and it put him on his face instantly but he was alright.

I’ll have to ask if there are any more accounts of them actually taking rounds in the field and what sort of damage is still received.

[old portal]

Believe what you want. It’s your money, your life. I wouldn’t trust anything other than ESAPI

[twilit cape]

It’s pretty good for steel armor

Granted I would not wear it

[scenic lotus]

I mean the math says he's more protected now

[snow scarab]

you would. because steel doesn’t dispense the energy, it transfers it. when ceramics break, that takes out most of the oomph of the round hitting the plate and dispenses a huge portion of its energy. meanwhile steel simply transfers the energy to the plate. sure it will hit with less energy due to physics but it’s the difference of getting punched by 30% of the energy and 90% of the energy

[harsh crown]

Wouldnt it be more like that lmao

All the fragments would just ride the plate directly into his face, especially without the anti splash coating

[small pine]

Yeh I actually reference one meme pic that looks similar but tbf depending on the occasion you dont always need body armor because for the same weight you could carry extra food water ammo etc

[tepid ingot]

Sloped armour update

[rain pebble]

Thats what the protective neck fat is for

[fluid plover]

Rip face

[nocturne crest]

I agree

[fiery bloom]

I just bought first suppressor and all the mounting systems and shit are so confusing

[real thorn]

#irl-weapons

[brazen crane]

8/10

[formal skiff]

What kind of AR mag pouch is ?

[empty sorrel]

Looks like the two .308 hits completely saturated the ability of the spall liner

[empty sorrel]

A significant amount of the energy is actually expended to deform (and heat) the projectile itself, in both steel and ceramics. It's not a 1 to 1 transfer of kinetic energy.

[rigid sequoia]

Yeah the first 2 were negated by the anti spawl coating, the third threw the coat off the steel

All of which were rounds it wasn’t rated for

[empty sorrel]

I'd be surprised if the steel didn't stop basic 308 rounds,

You only really see it outright failing against very high velocity soft core threats like m193, or with hardened core projectiles

The spall liners failing after two shots of 308 is a rather repeatable observation though, regardless of manufacturer

I loaded these two into 300blk, so significantly slower than 308, (probably about half the speed) and they still nearly perforated a 3/8th steel target.

[old portal]

Well ya but I’m speaking in terms the transfer properties that still occur will be significantly different between the two with the ceramics being better overall

[empty sorrel]

Yes, since you both distribute the force over a longer time as the backer and plate deform, and disperse energy through that deformation.

[old portal]

I can’t tell you the science behind all of it. Someone much smarter than I made those decisions. I can just say that I’ve took a ricochet in the vest in 2007 Iraq. It had lost a lot of steam and I knew it hit me but no damage. I’ve seen the effects of multiple hits on ESAPI in combat. Anyone that says they would choose steel over ESAPI is just dumb.

[cobalt bramble]

Looks like one of the kydex mag pouches cops use

[formal skiff]

thx

[empty sorrel]

There's a reason every first world nation moved to ceramics

[old portal]

100%

[grand mountain]

ceramics break cleanly which absorbs more impact than just transferring it through to you like steel does

And when the hard steel breaks, it spalls

[old portal]

One of my TLs side plates had stopped an AK round and he didn’t even know it for a few days later when he found a small hole in the side carrier and spent round in the bottom.

[grand mountain]

It's why helmets are meant to break when they're hit, that company selling its "indestructible helmets" has the wrong idea since that'll just transfer the impact through to your cranium rather than breaking and absorbing the shock

[empty sorrel]

@grand mountain it's less the matter of how it breaks and more the fact that it does crack and a deform, which absorbs a decent bit of the kinetic energy instead of transmitting it as you say.

[grand mountain]

the clean breaks is about the spalling

not the force

thats why i mentioned that

[empty sorrel]

Helmets are a little bit different because you actually have some standoff distance, so you actually can get away with steel helmets with good padding systems

[grand mountain]

it breaks cleanly rather than turn into shrapnel

[empty sorrel]

I'm honestly not sure what you're getting at, steel doesn't deform at all, and it shatters the projectile, whereas ceramics crack, and absorb the projectile itself with the help of the backer

[snow scarab]

it’s shit like that that guys are checking themselves and each other after every mission nowadays

[old portal]

Ya even a quick check I don’t think would have done anything at the time. He just happened to see a small tear in his vest by happenstance then find that rando round floating in bottom of carrier pocket.

So much random stuff occurs like that. While we were operating out it a large fob in Baghdad we were living out of a tent with a wooden floor. One morning one of the other SLs comes and says look at this shit. He shows me an AK round perfectly nose down stick in the wood flooring with a perfect hole in tent roof above it. Right at head level. 4/6 inches to the right it would have him him square in forehead. He always slept on his back and when you woke him it was at a distance. He always sat up like Dracula while swinging.

This was like his third Iraq trip in as many years. Super spun but he was an excellent combat leader. He was in Fallujah with the 1st Cav in November 04.

[craggy merlin]

next pair of shit old nvgs arrived

gen 1ish instead of the others that are 0s

and sketchy russian rechargable batteries

[pseudo fossil]

U got Cheeto dust all over them man

[static zodiac]

look at this guy's Knight tattoo

[static zodiac]

Mmmm asbestos!

[craggy merlin]

na OOOOLD foam

[craggy merlin]

im redooing the case and going to probably mod them onto a real helmet not that god awful strap

[static zodiac]

go fuck yourself cag boy

[tiny meadow]

Now I have some pretty questionable tattoos but that’s just horrible

[harsh crown]

Do it

[tiny meadow]

🤓

[snow scarab]

complete L take

tattoos are dope 95% of the time

[plush topaz]

@fluid root do you have any ink

[plush topaz]

Skullllll

[tiny meadow]

Always people without tattoos that got the most to say

[plush topaz]

About what

[snow scarab]

and? that’s what 90% of tattoos have been for the longest time lmfao

i literally plan on getting an entire sleeve done of just art from shows i love

[plush topaz]

@snow scarab he just jelly

[snow scarab]

i guess so

[empty sorrel]

I actually have one of the body armor platrs that was issued to British police officers during the troubles, specifically to protect them from the Barrett m82 of the south Armagh sniper

[tiny meadow]

Not you, the dude you tagged

I love random designs

[grand mountain]

Boomer ass take

[static zodiac]

true!

[static zodiac]

get a U.S. Navy tattoo and claim you were in the marines at a VFW kinda horrible or have a random ass actor tattood on you kinda horrible

[old portal]

I only have 3. All having personal meaning to me. One of the WTC for 9/11 when I joined. One honoring my rifle squad after my Iraq 2007 and a Isaiah 6:8. Can’t do random stuff personally

[grand mountain]

I'll give you that one

That tat was some boot shit

reminds me of the time my brother got a pineapple grenade like this on his knee

[tiny meadow]

Only boot tattoo I have is a ruck with legs I got sometime after passing the RPAT at SOI

[grand mountain]

I'm convinced if you serve you're legally required to have at least 1 boot tattoo

[maiden kernel]

I've got an old asbestos filter in my room. It's neat looking but I should probably put it in like a ziplock or something.

[ashen edge]

i have liek 3 laying around

[plush topaz]

I get made fun of for my army tats

In Israel it's frowned upon

[plush topaz]

Crooked cuz arm isn't straight.

Idf infantry insignia

Sniper tat

[timber fog]

The backstory behind that sign is anti-boot as fuck

You guys are smoking crack with some of these takes

And some of these tats too

I don’t have any but tat bashing is mad cope

That said a lot of these were genuinely trash

[low zodiac]

Tattoos are only cool if there’s a cool story behind it for me

Just going out and getting art injected to your skin kinda defeats the purpose for me

There’s a limited space on your body for it so you might as well fill it with achievements

[plush topaz]

Tattoos only matter to those who have them.

Anyone who gets a tat to impress others is a looooooooser

[wet geyser]

he speaks the truth

[low zodiac]

He does

[wet geyser]

im not super into tattoos but i do wanna get this on my arm once i actually have money

[cobalt bramble]

Did crye ever make 6x8 side plate pouches Cause I swear I’ve seen them

[wet geyser]

i dont think so all im seeing is 6x6 side plate poutches. Although i could be wrong i just did a quick google search

[real thorn]

they make 6x9s

[plush topaz]

Nice. Could incorporate into a future sleeve too

[wet geyser]

personally not really interested in a sleeve but you do make a good point

[real thorn]

whats this new railink thing from ops-core?

its expensive as shit

[empty sorrel]

Pretty sure it's mainly meant for that fancy new visor the armies developing

It's not just power, but data as well

[cobalt bramble]

I’m getting these in soon and I don’t like the pouch they are coming with

Nothing wrong with the actual pouch just not the color I use

[plush topaz]

Mount on inside of cummerbund

[cobalt bramble]

I know

[plush topaz]

That's what I did cuz I could only get my bags in multicam. Had to hide it lol

[cobalt bramble]

Do people mount thier side plates outside the cummerbund

[plush topaz]

Yes

[cobalt bramble]

💀

[plush topaz]

But that's stupid

Leaves big gaps

[empty sorrel]

Old guys, still probably fine though

The side plates are small enough that it's actually nearly impossible to get enough leverage or even drop them hard enough to crack them

Why not just get a structural cummerbund that has the plate pockets built in

[cobalt bramble]

Can’t do that with a JPC

[cobalt bramble]

Yeah I traded my eagle industries map pack for them and the plate pockets

I just realized i probably shouldn’t put pics of those up with their serial numbers still showing

Fixed it

[empty sorrel]

Bro those things are nearly 20 years old, CIF isn't going to be coming after your ass

[old portal]

Idk man…CIF might try to milk this man for a few pennies

[empty sorrel]

Wonder how much some poor chap had to pay for losing these...

[old portal]

Double fair market value at least

[empty sorrel]

These things have barely started getting issued

NG ihps

[old portal]

Ya that one looks to have manufactured date of 3/24?

[empty sorrel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[harsh crown]

Im pretty sure that plate would have caused more problems then prevented.

If it stopped the round the evergy transfer would have turned your insides into mush, and if it went thru the plate it would be like having a blender running inside your internal organs

[elfin silo]

Spookies emergency ration

[empty sorrel]

At the 200yd standoff it was designed for, a hit would mean hospitalization, but a good chance of survival

[snow scarab]

jesus christ.

those are old

[cobalt bramble]

Not to old

Not broken or anything and no water damage so still viable

[empty sorrel]

How do they tap? You've mainly just got to worry about delamination

[cobalt bramble]

Don’t have them in hand yet

[empty sorrel]

Even then it's not a guarantee that it would fail if it is either way

[eternal shuttle]

Your a dick 😂

[coarse laurel]

Man someone thought I was wearing A2CU’s when I was wearing my crye g3 fields lol

[snow scarab]

huh? lol

[coarse laurel]

A2CU the flight uniform

[snow scarab]

ah

se a bunch of that lately. had three colonels wearing them sit like two seats away from me at lunch

[coarse laurel]

Were they even aviation lol

[grand mountain]

tacswap

ebay

fb marketplace

telegram groups

[coarse laurel]

It’s easy to just write a FLIPL

And consider it a loss

Then sell it

Happens all the time

You still pay for it

Hence the FLIPL

[old portal]

It’s better than the MICH/ACH it’s replacing I’m sure. It’s better cut and lighter.

Cuz all those rounds you mentioned above pen them as well.

[coarse laurel]

Helmets aren’t supposed to stop most rounds they are supposed to protect you from shrapnel and artillery

[old portal]

Exactly

[coarse laurel]

Funny enough I call head injuries distracting injuries as a medic

No matter what helmet you wear you are in for a bad day and there’s nothing anyone can do for you at the point of injury

[old portal]

Lost two brothers to AK rounds right thru their NOD bracket in 07 and 08. Not sure why ppl shit on helmets for not stopping what they aren’t built to stop. Gotta love ignorance

The guys that have the warped helmets as a souvenir from it stopping a round is the exception not the rule

[coarse laurel]

Yeah glancing blows are lucky but they will still cause serious TBI

In the long run

@old portal I remember awhile back someone tried to argue with me about battlefield injuries here

I was like bruh

[old portal]

Hell I got a TBI from a dismounted IED blast in 07. Just from hitting my head on ground so hard wearing the MICH. probably would have died without it. Lucky it only knocked me out.

[coarse laurel]

What’s hilarious is I feel safer wearing a hard hat rather than an ACH in garrison

For jumps I do bump helmets

[marsh flint]

Damn

[coarse laurel]

Because I don’t wanna get knocked tf out

Even with my ballistic opscore

Lol

[old portal]

I’ve had some odd encounters here. One guy I won’t name DM me calling me a liar and a fake claiming I couldn’t have been promoted as quick as I say. They clearly aren’t aware of how promotions worked during GWOT

[coarse laurel]

If only he knows, a lot of surge dudes rose up in high positions because they stuck around

Those MF’s got battlefield promotions

[old portal]

Things were much much different 20 years ago. 7 in 7 was pretty common at least in the infantry during my time in

[coarse laurel]

During the height of GWOT

[marsh flint]

People don't realize how even an AT mine feels like from distance. Demoing them typically makes men silent.

10 kgs of TNT is a blast

[coarse laurel]

Being outside of the tank during a 120mm shot

Even if ur behind it

[old portal]

The MGS 105 would rock you. Our brigade was first to deploy them in 07. They did some solid work for us when needed

2 canister shells into an Iraqi compound wall set a nice breach you could nearly drive a car thru

[marsh flint]

How much there is a payload in typical JDAM

Can't remember just now

[old portal]

I think they have different ordnance weights. 500,1000,2000 or something but not certain

[marsh flint]

It's not much on paper but those bombs do the job

Yea jdam is like the module

[coarse laurel]

It’s funny how when I was a scout I got trained on the MGS only for them to take it away

[old portal]

Ya I think they are all gone now. They were good I thought but maybe not in todays threat environment

[coarse laurel]

We have some in Benning at the 316th Cav motorpool

And the Cav Armor collection Museum

[old portal]

We rarely did company sized ops in Iraq, mostly platoon, but if it was there it was doing the lords work when we made contact

[old portal]

Can’t believe it’s gonna museum now

[coarse laurel]

Yeahhh

The booker is the future

Bradley with a 105

I never thought I’d see the day

Hell the new Ambulance is on a brad museum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_Multi-Purpose_Vehicle

[old portal]

If we took contact from a structure we suppressed and leveled with Apaches or fast movers. None of this fallujah entering contested structures. Not worth it. If we made contact in a structure. We fought our way out and leveled it

[coarse laurel]

We send in portable drones and set up ambushes rather than going in buildings now

That’s what they are changing now

No more going into houses blind

[old portal]

That’s crazy with the drones and such. My last deployment out battalion got a couple of these GMAV drones or something to support us

Looked like a flying 5 gal bucket or something.

Ya everything we did was blind clearing. Found way too many HBIEDs doing that. Fortunately we never det any on accident

Here she is

Looking back looks more like a flying air compressor

[coarse laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hornet_Nano

@old portal

It’s so tiny

[old portal]

wtf. Joe would have lost that shit in 10 minutes

Better tie that shit down

[coarse laurel]

It has GPS also controlled via the ATAK phone

[old portal]

Crazy how much stuff evolved

[coarse laurel]

We have our phones on our plate carriers now we could see the maps and stuff

I first used ATAK in 2021ish

It’s better than the freaking JBCP’s we had inside the vehicles

[old portal]

I was running a personal Garmin with a paper sat image map still. Numbering structures with map markers. Ancient now

[coarse laurel]

We still do that

[old portal]

Good to know it’s still around

[coarse laurel]

We still do paper land nav too haha

[old portal]

Good to know that skill still exists

[coarse laurel]

Even if tech evolves we still gotta practice basics

[old portal]

Map compass protractor red lense and go

[coarse laurel]

I was miserable enough doing ranger school land nav a total of 6 times last year

Goddamn 2.5k movements per point sucks

[old portal]

Ya that’s some good humps.

[coarse laurel]

Legit missed my points at times because I refuse to dead reckon

All the way

Lots of erosion ditches and shitty terrain on this side of Benning

Also rolling hills

And disappearing streams

[old portal]

Was about to ask how terrain was there. Enough variation for terrain association? Lewis land nav was a pain. always seemed too flat

Korea land nav was nice with all the varying terrain

[coarse laurel]

Korea land nav like November alpha in Casey? Lol

Or the DMZ one

[empty sorrel]

This is the NG iphs

Allegedly fixes all the problems

[old portal]

Both. I was at Casey but spent a lot of time up at DMZ around the old Camp Greaves before it was given over to the ROK in I think 04

[coarse laurel]

Casey and hovey is still alive and kicking

Camp castle is just a motorpool, camp mobile is a UAS airstrip because of flood damage years ago

[old portal]

Bro the fights at the Hovey/Tokori gate were epic in 03/04. Literal drunken stabbings at the old 1/9 Manchu rock

[coarse laurel]

Camp Jackson the old NCOA and KATUSA academy is closed

Camp stanley and Camp red cloud is too

[old portal]

I always heard they were going to close down Casey/Hovey and move them far south

It’s not a perm duty station anymore tho right. Isn’t it like a brigade 9 month rotation or something?

[coarse laurel]

They did for the most part but Casey still gets rotations

Half the rotation brigades are In Casey

The other half is chilling in Humprheys

8th army and USFK got moved to humphreys

And yongsan is mostly closed

[old portal]

Ya Yongsan was the place to be in 03/04...cant believe its dead now

[coarse laurel]

Fucking made me grab ENVG’s

So I gotta wear an IHPS

[maiden kernel]

I remember stacking C4 on these in battlefield 4 and ramming them into tanks. Never thought they were ever really used.

[nocturne crest]

Such a weird housing, never seen those before lmao

They run thermal overlay?

[coarse laurel]

It’s a PSQ-42

Yeah

It does

It also has a built it compass and outline

[nocturne crest]

Damn bro wtf hahaha

[coarse laurel]

@nocturne crest

[nocturne crest]

You’re one of them battalion boys aren’t you squidward

Dude that compass is so sick

[coarse laurel]

I work at ranger school not regiment

[nocturne crest]

Hell yeah dude! Looks super interesting

Do you do any of the specific phases? Ik there’s benning, mountain, and Florida

[cobalt bramble]

DTS ferro slingster has arrived

[coarse laurel]

Benning

These days I mainly work RSLC

[nocturne crest]

Always thought the ranger training cycle was super sick, and it also looks hard as hell haha

[coarse laurel]

It’s awesome I get to see a lot of cool stuff and play with some cool toys but it’s hard work

[old portal]

Ya sounded like a damn flying weedeater at night...had day/night thermal sights...controlled by toughbook

[coarse laurel]

@old portal

This is how I’m able to properly see the jumpers

[old portal]

bro that thing is wild

Always heard the best way to do ranger school was not jump qualified...less chance of injury drop out

[coarse laurel]

Lol yeah

The thing with the outline is you need to be far enough for it to work

[nocturne crest]

Does jump school fuck you up that much?

I dont think ive heard from a single person that they went through fine with no injuries lmfao

[coarse laurel]

Kinda, shit happens statistically to with 300+ jumpers

Me on the ATAK lol

[storm peak]

If you do exactly what your told you won't get injured from a jump

[nocturne crest]

Its probably just the wear on your knees/back over time that really gets ya.

[storm peak]

Believe it or not it's from how much running and rucking airborne units do. Injuries from jumps are quite rare. Literally do as instructed and PLF correctly

My back is fucked to hell from my time at bragg

[nocturne crest]

Looks fun ngl

[coarse laurel]

Majority of the folks that get injured here are from improper PLF’s and just first time jumpers

And also that stupid creek at fryar

[nocturne crest]

You go for straight up airborne? or was it just a school for ya

[storm peak]

My parents wouldn't sign off on me enlisting without airborne in my contract

[nocturne crest]

Ik some people go through it as a school, and some people stay for the 11th-108th

[old portal]

My best friend just retired from 5th group about year and half ago

We were team leaders together. Separated by a PCS, ended up back together at Lewis. Deployed together as E6 then I ETS. He went SFAS. Pinned E7 in Q course

[coarse laurel]

Man this is taking forever

[old portal]

And here I am collecting up all the civil war and Wild West guns I can get my hands on

[plush topaz]

Join the army

[snow scarab]

a lot of people also don’t realize a decent sized guy in full kit with a ruck can set off an AT mine

[low zodiac]

Here you go

[marsh flint]

Yeah the momentary impulse might trigger it

Darwin stuff to try

[snow scarab]

no im talking like based on your weight. most AT mines are like, 350-400 lbs to set off

[marsh flint]

Yes but even if you are lighter than that

Weight is after all newtons and lets say a 130 kg combination (guy plus kit) plus the momentarily impact can easily exceed that

Not to mention jumping on it

Even if your mass is less than needed

Wouldn't try.

[marsh flint]

Anyway, the whole point was about people ignoring the blast effect

10 kgs of TNT leaves a 2 meter deep and 4 meter wide crater into sandy woods terrain

It doesnt destroy a battle tank, it destroys the track system at most. Typically damages it at least

[shut escarp]

tank no but IFV/APCs like the BMP-1/2/3, BTR etc yes

plenty of vids of ruski light armor being vaporized by hitting (often friendly) mines

[marsh flint]

I'm on a reservist march rn

Only 5kg in a bag, jeans T shirt

Fuck that is tough for peasants alone

But as a Squad leader have to be the best example they have

7km at least to go

It's like 20c tough for finnd

Gear, weapons OSP

I hope I don't have to carry anybody again

Mosquitos are the worst

Point being civ gear is BAD on the woods

[old portal]

Here’s an AT mine I almost det in some palm groves in 2007. We were clearing through the groves and I split my squad with me taking point with my B team. Was following a small deer path through tall grass when something caught my attention on ground as I was stepping. Stopped mid step and realized I was about to step on improvised crush wire. Followed the crush wire to hastily covered AT mine next to path. Broke off the crush wire and marked it to come back and destroy later. Me and our weapon squad leader when we came back to retrieve.

[low fox]

Night kit (Ignore the spray paint respirator it’s a place holder for a real gas mask)

[low zodiac]

I don’t understand why airsoft people gravitate towards the stuff they do

You can buy real gear for just as cheap if not cheaper

Chicoms, FLCs, dozens of obscure foreign camo patterns that look cool

Guaranteed cheaper than whatever temu/amazon hybrid that black thing is

[grand mountain]

[low fox]

That bitch empty, and it’s a night kit

[grand mountain]

black is literally worse for night time than camo

[timber fog]

^

[grand mountain]

your shadow will be too deep for your surroundings and stick out

[low zodiac]

just because its dark outside doesnt mean everything is black

[grand mountain]

you'll be silhouetted against everything around you lmfao

[small pine]

black evil colors because i saw special forces using them on tv! 😈

[grand mountain]

colors don't stop being colors just because it's dark out

values =/= color

[small pine]

Black is mostly never good in ano camoflauging pattern

[grand mountain]

black only works when it's not solid black

[small pine]

Especially if black is pretty much your entire camo basis

[grand mountain]

and even then it's rare

multicam black kits can look good but they're hard to pull off

Just use multicam like a normal person

[small pine]

Black overall rarely occurs in nature

Youd have worse time spotting someone wearing red spots on their camo than someone wearing black spots or dark gray/gray ones

[grand mountain]

thats why the blackwater bearded iris is my favorite flower

[timber fog]

As rare as black is in nature, it sure is beautiful when you do see it

[timber fog]

From a recent 8 miler

Y’all been touching grass lately?

[grand mountain]

daily

[coarse laurel]

Grass

[old portal]

Is that like a kestrel wind instrument for a DZ?

[coarse laurel]

Yeah I’m at the DZSO mound

[snow scarab]

jesus fuckin christ

[wet geyser]

I switch between the two for Airsoft. Black for indoor cuz edgy and multi cam for outdoor cuz it makes sense. If I ever had to do real steel stuff multi cam is the way to go 100%

I responded to the wrong person.

[tall aspen]

💀

[low fox]

I was going for the professional all black look that swat and such use

[shut escarp]

GL man! hope you made it well

[low zodiac]

Ruck practice fo today

I’m bringing this up a mountain

[grand mountain]

it did not work

[wet geyser]

It was one of if not the worst Airsoft kit I have ever seen

[grand mountain]

just use multicam if you want to look "professional"

[low fox]

Finally someone sees the true kit

[wet geyser]

Facts that’s what I was saying. Multicam for professional. Black for edgy speedy sad boi kit

[glossy pebble]

just dont be fat or you're in meal team 6

but that goes for 90% of camos

[coarse laurel]

At the same time don’t be to thin like a stick

Put some respectable amount of mass on

[grand mountain]

If ur gonna post that shit it belongs in #airsoft

[grand mountain]

Me

[low fox]

Nothing I had was airsoft tho, I was just sharing my temp setup

And just remember your still on about this from 2 photos 5 hours ago

[coarse laurel]

everyone starts from somewhere

if its airsoft i cant even fault anyone, i like seeing peoples before and after pictures

[low zodiac]

I lied

Completely snowed out still

[coarse laurel]

wtf its almost summer and theres still snow where you are?

[low zodiac]

Yes 💀

[coarse laurel]

where is this

[low zodiac]

It snowed two days ago pretty hard

Montana

[coarse laurel]

my god

here i am dying in the south

[low zodiac]

Tbf this is the mountains, in town it’s kinda just patchy snow

[low zodiac]

I moved here to escape the southern summers

The sky also acts weird sometimes

[grand mountain]

ye

[wet geyser]

i could hit u with an insane before and after

[grand mountain]

wait till you see mine

[wet geyser]

sent mine in the airsoft channel

the glow up was crazy

[low zodiac]

theyre aight

they work

some guy here has them and likes them

personally id go the pvs14 route

one of us one of us one of us

thats a steal of a deal for a tula in todays market

about a month ago i paid 400 for a type 56, but thats very much an anomaly in the sks market

its at the latest a 66 year old gun

tula stopped producing them in 58'

izhevsk and tula SKS's have great stocks, probably the best out of any other country

theyre all fully milled too

[formal onyx]

I set up my 1960's hammock

It wasn't perfect

[low fox]

Tarkov didn't pay the server bill

[snow scarab]

real. i’m finally happy i can give people shit about being skinny. i’m not victim weight anymore

so stupid they cost even that much

[real thorn]

asked this on r/tacticalgear too
what do you guys think is the 'vanilla ice cream' of tactical brands?

like, the most basic

[muted lynx]

for gear?

idk 5.11 prolly

[real thorn]

good opinion

[pastel scaffold]

5.11 is the fedboi uniform

[thick jasper]

Really? I've seen their stuff in FarCry 5. Isn't it a outdoors brand

[thick jasper]

Hey that's like something I wanna get. Any ideas for waterproofing for wet and hot climates?

[low zodiac]

black trash bag

unironically

thats what ive used before to great success

there are more professional pack liners but a garbage bag basically does the same thing

[thick jasper]

Ohh okay that sounds so more useful than another product lol thanks 👍

[plush topaz]

Condor

100%

[plush topaz]

Outdoor and tactical. They make everything from every day packs, daily clothes or tactical uniforms and plate carriers

[cobalt bramble]

I would have to agree with the other guys 5.11 is the obvious choice condor is a close second

[cobalt bramble]

The backpacks ain’t half bad I’ve been using a rush 12 as my every day bag for the past two years and it’s held up OK

Was a bit more expensive than I think it’s actually worth, but overall, not a bad bag wouldn’t do anything serious with it but for every day shit it’s not bad

[snow scarab]

what? no. not even close

nobody who does any actual work wears a 5.11 uniform

[shut escarp]

O_o holly you US for sks to be that expensive

[grand mountain]

5.11 is for men with fragile masculinity who are obsessed with making everything in their life "tactical"

[snow scarab]

yeah

[grand mountain]

Same chuds who actually bought that tactical baby carrier slop

[low zodiac]

They make good pants

And backpacks

[grand mountain]

All I'm saying is, dogs are also great at taking shits lol

[low zodiac]

The rush 100 has genuinely been a good pack for me

There’s better out there for sure but it’s by no means a bad bag

If you have any criticisms of It id love to hear them lol

…after I wake up tomorrow

[real thorn]

what im runnin rn at airsoft

great brand

[plush topaz]

They're amazing bags. I have several. Held up to everything. But they're not great for backpacking. Theyre very heavy and soak up moisture. Even with a cover.

[plush topaz]

A couple of my guys have them. They aren't horrible.

[snow scarab]

yeah and that’s fucking stupid too

SKS cost like 300 bucks 6-7 years ago

not really lmfao

nobody should be paying over 500 bucks for a subpar shittily made rifle from the 40s

[deep veldt]

Important part of gear

[carmine shale]

Man, I really want to upgrade to duels from my pvs 14

My buddies pair of duels weight less or about the same as my pvs 14 minus the battery pack on the duels

[snow scarab]

katanas?

[carmine shale]

Lull21

[small pine]

Get thermals instead

[carmine shale]

Tbh I rather drop that money into a dmr

Or bolt gun

[plush topaz]

You don't require a battery pack

But it doubles as counterweight

[carmine shale]

Right

Its perfectly balanced binos with pack on the back

[low zodiac]

Shitty? The sks is many things but shitty isn’t one of them

[snow scarab]

no it’s definitely shitty

[low zodiac]

Elaborate

[snow scarab]

wood stock, not very accurate, 10 rounds, 7.62x39, shitty irons, meh short stroke system

[low zodiac]

It’s just as accurate as any other 20” 762x39 weapon system

It’s a cold hammer forged chrome lined threaded barrel

Almost all ak pattern weapons have pinned barrels

It’s a high quality weapon, they were cheap only because there were so many of them

The wood stock isn’t bad either

[cobalt bramble]

BaCk In My DaY tHeY wHeRe 5 FoR a DoLlAR

Wish we could go back to the days of cheap ass surp rifles

[low zodiac]

The ruger mini-30 is the only other gun on the American market that roughly matches the sks

And its a 1400 dollar weapon

[cobalt bramble]

Cue video of mini 14 fucking exploding

[low zodiac]

It’s such a stupid argument when people say that a sks shouldn’t be worth more than it was 20 years ago

The actual objective price ceiling of them is around $1200 because it has almost no competitors on the American market

Before any historical value

There is no other chrome lined cold hammer forged milled receiver wood stocked semi auto 762x39 rifle gripped weapon on the market but the sks and mini30

It’s definitely more robust than the mini30 too, and undoubtedly lasts way longer

And you get the bayonet, cleaning kit, and usually a sling included

[grand mountain]

time to make one

[timber fog]

Not to mention $500 20 years ago doesn’t even have the same buying power as $500 today

When you calculate inflation into the mix, $500 in 2004 had about the same buying power as ~$850 in 2024

Prices today aren’t very far fetched (although I wouldn’t mind the days of sub-$500 surp rifles again)

That said a genuine all-tula for $500 in 2024 is a come up

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[marsh flint]

Wow

Glad you were okay

[ashen edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waeDNAXzUvU

dunno if im just late to the party or what but i came across this

[thick jasper]

Is that Halo words

[low zodiac]

Before and after

New grill

[muted lynx]

who makes y'alls favorite decently priced packs. preferably MOLLE?

[plush topaz]

You wild man. I took a photo of an IED from very very far away. Ain't no way I was gonna pose with it lol

Guess that's a bit different than a mine tho

[plush topaz]

When lift

[low zodiac]

im just going to go for pizza cutters for now

255s 33s will clear on stock suspension

though i will need a new leaf pack, the truck actually sags in its current state

[old portal]

It was safe. I had pulled the crush wire and blasting cap out when I first found it. Pretty much no way to det it at that point. Also by this point I had been hit my multiple IEDs and either felt invincible or just ready to get it over with.

[snow scarab]

personally i really love my eberlestock packs

[plush topaz]

Badass

@muted lynx
https://www.wisport.com.pl/en/shop/raccoon-85/

[marsh flint]

Real question is where it's made

[low zodiac]

1.7 mil????

[muted lynx]

Appreciate the recs

[muted lynx]

What the hell is that currency

Looks like they’re polish according to the about section?

[low zodiac]

its a really funny way to write a $

[hasty kettle]

holy fuck that is still a lot for a backpack... about as much as a decent-ish non-apple smartphone. like $400?

but hey, didnt know there was a premium backpack store in my country, will check rest of their stuff

lol they didnt translate the "about us" section but they did the main page...

looks like those guys are on Shot-Show Las Vegas every year

[plush topaz]

Polish

[plush topaz]

One of the best.

We use them in my unit in Israel.

The raccoon 85L is always sold out. I need another one

[low fox]

3D Printed DVL-10 Saboteur with custom paint job.

[real thorn]

this actually looks rly sick

[storm peak]

Very interesting to be quite honest, kind of sick

I'm quite curious of how the polymer 20 moa rail will hold zero

Unless it's just a toy, the bolt is looking quite plastic

[low fox]

Now hung up

[low fox]

Just a model so it doesnt shoot anything, i still have the files for it tho and i can probably make it airsoft as long as i use similar gear boxes of the ssg10 for example

[marsh flint]

Cool

[tiny meadow]

Whenever you can please switch frames

The stock filbe frame is just horrendous

[ancient sandal]

I want too honestly

I'm not sure how much I like the frame of this - and the waist

[tiny meadow]

Best replace when possible

[ancient sandal]

It doesn't feel great and it makes it look like my back is slouched when I'm wearing it due to the small gap between me and the ruck made by it

[tiny meadow]

Idk what the Marine Corps was thinking but this shit is just horrendous for weight displacement

[ancient sandal]

actually while I'm talking I do need frame recommendations - only other one I've got atm is a normal large alice frame

[tiny meadow]

Also how much it flex’s too instead of staying sturdy

[tiny meadow]

Malice frame or any Alice frame

There’s another that I’ll look up but honestly any metal frame is better

https://www.frontierresolve.com/product/Fortitude-Pack-Frame

[ancient sandal]

gotcha, I've got a large Alice pack from like around the late 80s + the M81 straps so I could probably put that on there temporarily if I tried

[ancient sandal]

when I initially got this ruck I really despised that

and imo the straps don't stay tight, I've noticed they've loosened easily by movement

[tiny meadow]

https://www.t3gear.com/t3-lightweight-ruck-frame-fde/

[tiny meadow]

Just gotta ranger roll them with tape

[ancient sandal]

gotcha

[tiny meadow]

Also if you want max security as well as tightening, take the bottom straps and hook em with the flap buckles

Helps make the load more upright so it lies on the hips

[ancient sandal]

understood, mine mostly just has camping stuff in it atm and some extra things that'll help with rucking so it's not too bad with the security of everything so far

[nocturne crest]

https://www.wisport.com.pl/en/shop/a-grenade-launcher/

Now all I need is a carl gustaf...

[empty nest]

so an alice frame copy thats over twice the price?

[empty nest]

see ive been rocking the large alice pack for a while but honestly if you want stupid large ruck with nothing but molle id go with a filbe with a molle 2 frame

[marsh flint]

Demand perfection

https://youtube.com/watch?v=b16_gYapB2c

[empty nest]

whats up with the stick out over the head?

it has such a long profile

[marsh flint]

It's the XL

L is smaller

[empty nest]

the only issue i can see with that is that the kidney pad is small and rather thin

[marsh flint]

m would be alright for a day pack

It's not thin

[muted lynx]

i want more of a 3day size pack i think

i have a bigger one already, old cabelas brand bag, but has worked well and been all over the country camping lol

[empty nest]

im gonna be honest its pretty thin the kidney pad that i have for my ruck is nearly 2" thick and wraps basically the whole way around my lower back

ive had smaller kidney pads and if your loading down a pack of that size with what you should be then it gets real painful after the first few hundred meters

[marsh flint]

never heard such an issue

[empty nest]

how much weight do you normally put in that bag?

[marsh flint]

lol im used to this

[empty nest]

yeah but how much actual weight are you putting in that pack

[empty nest]

mine is usually no less the 65lbs minus the water

roughly 30 kg

[marsh flint]

I don't remember but whole kit is about 40 kgs

[empty nest]

that includes rifle and armor though right?

[marsh flint]

no armor but yes

armors and plate carriers are new fancy stuff

[empty nest]

okay yeah then our gear comes to around the same weight

[marsh flint]

what gear do you mean?

[empty nest]

ruck rifle lbe and equipment

[marsh flint]

is it some standard issue or just your personal

[empty nest]

my personal

[marsh flint]

oaky

nice

[empty nest]

are you out of the service now?

[nocturne crest]

fucking oof

[idle helm]

yes i agree

[idle helm]

looks almost like salerno dz with all grass just everywhere

[coarse laurel]

fryar

[idle helm]

suprized they are still testing those we 82nd boys tested them for a while although i heard they had a multitude of issues

[coarse laurel]

im with the ranger school in benning, we were doing cadre jumps

[idle helm]

ah good ol benning

[coarse laurel]

when i was in the line we got them as early as mid 2021

[idle helm]

wild, we barely had them for short while

[coarse laurel]

thats surprising considering 82nd always got the new stuff

[tiny meadow]

🤓

[nocturne crest]

Guccier ALICE shit is coming back, and I love it

[formal onyx]

Hot take me need Alice gear in takov

Also, how much you think I'll get from therapist for this?

[nocturne crest]

Crossfire jungle rig☝️

[prisma dawn]

Put together a new heavy set for stationary situations, IV plates with IIIa soft kevlar/aramid, took a buncha manual sewing

[compact ivy]

scav run

[prisma dawn]

huh? 😄

[empty sorrel]

The whole sleeve has soft armor sewn in

[old portal]

Whoever came up with that stupid idea has never suffered heat exhaustion

[prisma dawn]

oh yea, neat, but Ragged got a point ngl

whenever im out there, i prefer to wear a chest rig and webbing just to ease off on the heat and weight, but if you in a machinegunner nest or expect shrapnel - grab a ton of kevlar/aramid

took an oldschool LBT type plate carrier and threw on a set, had to do a buncha sewing for the plates to hold bc the velcro was shit inside

[prisma dawn]

Winter time - sure, but then again, not if you're an infantryman moving a lot

[old portal]

Overseas we constantly rolled our sleeves up a just a few inches up off our wrists just to get some form of air flow/relief. If those tops had been issued it would have been a joke and that shit immediately cut out. Not to forget it’s just another thing to limit movement when you’re already weighed down with 80#+ of equipment

[prisma dawn]

pretty much

heavy duty stuff is mostly for pre-planned, organized breaching and that's usually accompanied with shields

I'm all for testing and experimenting with kits but wouldn't wear something like that personally