#irl-weapons
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true to an extent. Somewhere like comifornia is arguably worse than a lot of eu
California isn’t even close to the worst. NY and Washington State are now worse lol
Its a WBP in 5.56, was trying to find a one of those longer saigas But a few years into the ukraine was have made it so hard to find Russian stuff even here.... I plan on modify it abit tho but not sure when im blowing 10k $ soonish on other gun stuff and i need to restrain myself abit
tell me about it a few years back i meet a guy that freshly bought an Izmash 74U (semi auto ofc) for sub 1000eur now its like 3k+ if you can find one to begin with
then again even other hard to get guns skyrocketed in price. MP5s for example are giga hard to get now
and Rus caliber cost almost as much as 5.56 now so.... no more cheap ammo for us
I’m looking at these pictures of EU suppressors, normal mags, and standard rifle features that are all illegal here lol. I’m sure the process to own them is long but the end result sure looks nice
Its funny because anti-gun people here are always like we need to ban all guns like Europe!
if they read up on Austrian or Czech gun laws theyd have a stroke
for my current license it was about 1k eur in cost and 1 year in wait time to get it can only have 5 firearms on current license tho need to upgrade for unlimited.
Its a shitshow here, almost no countrys got good selfdefence laws so ye sure no legal guns in guncrimes almost but they would still live in fear here

Czechs are biased AF one of their PMs literally said about terrorist: just shoot them yourself.
best country for guns is swizerland. chance my mind
no concealed carry
but they don’t really need to so idk
Based af
I literally have a 40mm in my closet brother convince me America is not the best
tbf concealed carry in EU is giga hard to get i only meet 1 person with that type of license
the Swiss can have that and a new MG
Our country isn’t safe anymore. At least there’s like 2 European countries that are still safe lol
Oh based I knew Swiss could have mg but didn’t know they could have big bore shit
and this was due to their life being publicly threatened
Yeah one year is a good amount of time, but the way I see it I’m not moving in a years’ time so may as well be patient 🤷♂️
What’s the process to upgrade to unlimited?
frenchie
i follow a swiss gun tuber on youtube hes always blasting his m320 and a g18
Shoot
like show me your brand new G18 (SOTs and Cops don’t count)
I mean ye tho i think you need to do paperwork everytime you plan on go and shoot the fullauto stuff. can be wrong tho.
the short version is: you have to have at least 2 participations in a match that meets license upgrade requirements (soo club matches don't count for the msot part only coutnry wide ones) and apply for an upgrade via goverment office, pay a fee and ofc get it apporved.
its a separate license i think but its not unobtainable by any means
Bloke on the range lives in switzerland too and owns both a FA L85A1 and a FA Famas (Ian is very jealous of the latter)
which country
love his channel
i'll put it like this it hosts a brutality match almost every year.
I see
supressors used to be banned but like 4-5 years ago they became completly deregualted and even encouraged for hunters.
you can straight up have them shipped in mail now.
Finland unless you are from Poland lol
Or integrated like in the SD :3 i love my SD its way too much fun
there are 2 annual brutality matches hosted in Europe :p and the one you're thinking off in poland is light infantry competition.
Light?
ye its a brutal competition
I’m happy for them too
No if you are referring to us laws no
You just have to apply for a stamp which 200 bucks
Then you can shoot it whenever
It's just travel restrictions
You have to notify travel
The catch is all the mgs need to be made before 1986 unless you are a dealer
i love the python (or anaconda i cant tell)
Man that 226 and is that a 210?
Sig 210 with Gold from herconfirmation celebration belongs to a old lady, its a German made sig 226 X five
Sig x six
its a Python 6" from 80s sold it to a club member and i regret it
selling my early glock 17 gen 5 for a Gen 6 but i am waiting currently for some more color selections and threaded barrel to become options. early means it dont have optic cut or front serrations
thinking about Glock 19 now tho
its beautiful im not a huge revolver guy but its one on the list i want one day
Nice I have a 220 sport
Im using a Sphinx 3000 tho i tend to mainly shoot my Glock
Factory nills
I have one from the same timeframe. 84 or 85 I think. Love it
how do you use that tapeswitch
There's a pressure pad on the right side in front of the mag well
yeah im saying where are your hands when you activate that while shooting
a
the gun has no top rail
which is frankly, fucking insane
ya ik a lot of entry tier rifles like the PSAs dont have a top rail
im more just confused about the ergonomics of actually using the tapeswitch in that position while holding the rifle
my guess is hes using the grip like a handstop, since you could activate it that way either right or left handed
What the fuck kind of rifle doesn't have a top rail
We're cutting pennies out of the budget at that point
ik the cheaper anderson and PSA use that style of rail
It’s frankly ugly and useless
yeah its a dealbreaker for me, even pretending that bottom barrel ARs dont have other issues
it makes sense for like 3G stuff
they're all kind of ass
Or the guy wanted to have slick and smooth looking rifle, not everyone needs laser unit and magpul mbus lol. I assume the tape switch is next to the mag well because he rests his second hand on the mag well.
Honestly use whatever you like and don't buy in firearms manufacturers propaganda, they are the ones who run 2A under scrutiny skit, because that drives their sales. Just like toilet paper crysis during pandemic.
yea i wasnt trying to sound pretentious and grill him i more just genuinely dont understand the ergonomics
i feel like either using the foregrip or magwell, youre breaking grip to hit that
i dont care how people like their rifle set up as long as they have a good understanding of how it works for them
1 of 500
is that a real FA m/45?
Yes. Its not mine personally but club owned. Im gonna try get one myself aswell
It looks naked though lmao
I’ve never seen that before
its beautiful. one of my favorite tube smgs
lol. Whatever. In for 1 in 6.5. I saw this and immediately gave Texas’ favorite Cocaine Cowboy some more Coke money
I hope Mark LaRue still has time to rizz local older baddies in his area
bro putting out an attraction sign
He’s going to show them his arms rail collection
Anyone know which 5.45 round is standard issue for the Russians right now?
7n10 i think
afaik they use 7n10 and 7n22, which both seem to be okay rounds, dunno about exact equivalents but at least in concept they seem roughly on par with M855 and M855A1 respectively
Ohh ok I was probably thinking bout somthing else
That’s PP in the game and the 7n22 is the BP
The igolnik and 7n40 are the newest rounds but I guess they’re not standard issue yet
we all love shit nvgs
isnt igolnik similar to lime 995 or whatev
i don't think they will ever be those are rare
i think Igolnik would be more m855a1 and 7N40 would be 995 if we go by nato spec
maybe
this is 7n22
similar to 7n39 i think difference is in the metal the penetrator is made out of
🤌
hmmm horsey

Side grade to leupold then kek
Leupolds are also just alright. And they are the gold standard
Yeah
10/22/24
I don’t remember off hand I’ll take a look in a few
Still waiting on my space Mac upper
2x20
Yeah, the 2.5-8 has the chunky rear wheel and extended rear focal point
Prob another inch to inch and a half linger
I’d feel like 7n10 vs 7n22 is kind of like 55 grain 556 vs 62 grain 556
you could 100% be right i was basing what i said off of skimming the materials and a single twitter video claiming to compare 7n22 vs m855a1 on an armored vehicle
gents i turn 21 in 2 months yall have suggestions for a list of pistols i should try shooting before making a decision?
i just assumed 7n6 was a closer M193 equivalent and 7n10 was a step up in penetrator hardness from that
but i am not a knower
this is correct
anything your buddies have, ideally buddies that actually know how to shoot so you can get a feel for them with someone to help steer you a bit
just holding a gun off the shelf doesnt really tell you how well a gun fits you, id just pick a cheap, reliable, popular choice and then learn from your experience with that
I prefer glocks, other people will prefer M&Ps, Walthers, HKs, CZs, or any number of other valid options
my first gun at 21 was a CZ75 compact and i carried that for a year or so before i switched to the glock
People talk shit about CZ but they make some really reliable handguns, HK does as well but you’ll be selling kidney just to afford one. Glock is reliable but kind of basic for the most part. M&P is a solid line but they’ve always felt cheap to me despite their reliability and reputation.
corvair are kinda shit so
Repainted her last night
what in the airsoft
😭💀
i feel like out of all the people you could accuse of posting airsoft in here, you picked one of the worst ones
pray for this man 🙏
look at it..that shit is plastic
ragebaiting or just dumb, we may never know
hes posted that rifle in some form like, once a week, for over 6 months as it gets updated
including videos
he updates it here too
I’ve seen a good chunk of it
also has bro just never seen a painted rifle??
idek man
i feel like im losing just by entertaining the thought that he might not be kidding
ragged old airsoft
Professional airsofter for 40 years and going
No chem lights. Def ai
lol. That chest pouch is full of chems. Mostly IR
Good lord this is baste
You fcking loser airsofter

That is some top tier ragebait
can someone explain what the difference between the radian arms model 1 and a standard colt pattern m4a1?
Literally everything
Just fancier parts
So they can sell them to people at 5x the price of an M4
I wouldn’t compare those
More in the its just fancier parts comparison
It’s just targeting a different tax bracket
damn
thats silly
capitalism I guess
labour value is meaningless in a commodity market
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Anyone know what round this is? In the center it has 368PL on the bottom
See at least those are good
Radian is just an overpriced meme

Afghanistan?
Iraq
Ooo ok my dad was in Afghanistan
Another one that’s never posted a gun trolling about guns…
Never went there. Did a couple trips to OIF
Cool
getting ratted in iraq a different experience
i mean of what you notice its a better barrel and bcg. better finish, you get a better trigger, its ambi, 45 degree throw on safety.
do you have any other info on that? or pics
it looks similar to 30. carbine but hard to tell
I’m not sure what this even means…
its a Tarkov reference.
you can replace ratted with ambushed and you get mostly the same meaning
I mean those aks are overpriced as well
For sure
The meridian 5.56 Ak while like 1700 bucks for a 5.56 ak is expensive is not absurd 3500-4k expensive
4k for an ak?
what is it sadams gold plated ak?
Your essentially paying for the name
thats like everything in america
I’m hyped to see if the meridian is worth a shit
Only other 100 series on the market rn
Always is
First round baffle strike incoming
already checked concentricity, it’s perfect lol
So take it with a grain of salt but a dude I saw on YouTube said it’s one of the best 5.56 aks he shot
They have always been solid
This is just the first time they really aren't doing a themed gun
People still post about getting their cans out of NFA jail like it doesn't take three days now.
Oh right. They were the cringey zombie and battlefield guns
Like the 4 horseman aks
Yeah lmao

Hey my last one took 12 lol
It was like a life sentence
Mine got denied 3 times before I sent an email stating the trustee name matches.
Skill issue
Honestly, with $0 stamps, what's the point of a trust?
Like why pay a lawyer a hundred bucks to draft your stuff and risk screwing it all up
Like are you really gonna have your brother take your suppressor to the range without you? He should have his own.
You don’t Amazon oil filter ????
Joke
You
Bought it in 2020
It was mainly for my dad and I to shoot before I moved out and realized a trust wasn't the best move at all
i think alot of people do it in case of a death more than anything.
cause NFA stuff can get real tricky when someone dies
but for most people. especially now with the free stamps, you can always add it to trust later, so individual is just easier
Not really. It's bequeathed like any other item and transferred tax-free.
idk, ive heard if the person doesn't have a will, or something stating where they wish it to go, it can be a very long drawn out process, but idk ive never been in that situation. about half of my stuff is individual, and half is in a trust
Lost in boating accident 
my buddy got his back, its running good now, no issues with the primers, but still only doing about 4MOA.
For a AK
Not horrible
But also what ammo?
yeah its not the end of the world, im not sure what hes getting the best results out of, but i know hes tried a few now, iirc those pictures are PMC
i think hes just disappointed that his PSA AK groups better lol
but like i told him, its an AK, dont get too hung up on group size.
he loves how it shoots though
looks like 8MM french ordnance
goes to old french revolvers. ironically I was looking at them a few minutes ago.
Not sure what the 368PL is, looking it up gets you nowhere.
I mean that's just poor estate planning
Take the $100 trust and get a will notarized
I mean it’s still nfa jail
If you could take it home the same day different story
larp larp sahur, tarkov larp
its for the military so who cares ?
😂
I can go scaving 
it'll all trickle down eventually, let .mil fund the cases
I’m sure
Devious forces are at play right now
Mosin! 
MORE MOSIN!!
EVEN MORE MOSIN!!!!!

Anyone know of a good source for a 9mm AR upper that's an A1 style carry handle?
H&R has them but they're H&R priced
Fixed handle?
Yes
Yeah that's the H&R, the upper is like 600 bucks
I mean that sounds about right for a niche upper.
Yeah maybe its detachable carry handle time
Cloning a 635 without busting my entire ass and bank account open
Using a mag adapter because that's what colt did
Don't ask me for financial advice I'm building a beltfed.
True true
I had a px9 and I liked it but I want that classic look
Glock mags are gay
I have magazines of ammo that cost more than many guns.
Here it is compared to other rounds. I beleive its a very old 30 cal round from an m1 carbine
That's a game I've not opened in forever...
||But I should low-key get a 416 chiby keychain for my 416||
I've got a ro635 keychain. Need an M16 for my dissipator
I got the 416 irl Don't have the key chain xD
You already got the expensive part
True
Honestly the gun itself was cheaper than in US since Europoor but well the Can and Eokek added another 2k on top
looks too short to be .30 carbine, and the space between the rim and casing looks too short
Could be though, im not an expert
Quite possibly a 30. Cal round. You can always make a pic of the headstamp and measure it to make sure tho.
@mellow geode idk looks about right
looks wider
the .30 and 300 casings are about the same diameter, same with the rims
and his casing just looks fatter
The round to the right is a 4.6 mp7 round
again, still thinking it's french ordnance, looks a bit too wide to be a .30 caliber round in general
lmao
Finding random rounds at gun ranges isnt my speciality
That's why you post pics of headstamp xD
Cuz sometimes it's dirty or dyslexia kicks in and you read something completely off :p
I have to ask what kind of range did you find the 4.6 at that's not exactly a common round.
I found it in a field after a militairy exercise
Same with the 50 cal and 338
Alot of them are fired and ive put the actual bullet back in the casing
Anyone used a sig mod x 9?
Any reason you are looking at that besides the building capabilities
Here's a 4.6
What is that wierd looking round next to it?
Looks like a tiny slap round
I can’t post my weapon here but I can post my gear if there’s a Chanel for it
I had no idea there was smaller slap rounds than the 50 cal
Wasn't widely used, good performance but had some reliability issues
Aslong as it doesnt explode in your face when it goes off its good by me
My holy grail would be to find a russian made 9x39, but im in the uk so thats like 1/100000000
Easier to tuck under hanguard, once my space mac upper comes in I’ll modify the lower in the front to build an SD type of system with it.
That is fr a space Mac upper
Put it on the ar trigger Glock mag lower
I forget what it’s called
I need the new lower but they prioritizing VA orders for their new stupid laws
The mac n cheese aluminum copy
Colt straight mag is more sexy
Comes out later this month early next
Tbh I'd recommend something other than a sig can
Very small width is what appeals to me only 1.35in 🧐
I’d design a new lower trunnion piece up in cad to make it fit
Middleton made designed it up
Ahhhhh
LOL
Just 3D scan and reverse engineer it and extend the larry to make it fit the can
Idea is similar to LVAW style of tuck
That is extremely simplifying the work needed to make parts
5 axis at work will do just fine
I can formulate the G code for it to make it and then we see 👀
Only one way to find out really 🧐
My space mac dreams will either come true or I ruin a lot of things
Trvke
Kek
Would you like some gun with that flashlight
Yes
Unless you all know of another 9 mil super thin can
Or usw
Tuna can SLIM 9 could be an option
what's stamped on that 4.6? seems to be some sort of ap
or imporved pen at least
Well, I mean it was the only one ever sold to civilians, so it's notable for that, but it's a soft point. It was really just meant to disintegrate on any soft target.
Liberty National Defense 4.6x30mm
Was an LE only offering. Don't know the specifics.
Yours i assume?
Yeag
nice, def cool to see
The 4.6 is a 30gr iirc. Don't have it handy to get a headstamp tho
dam not a lot there
Would still mess your day up if you were hit by one
More like you would need to get hit by a lot
4.6 and 5.7 have been known to be very weak and really not put down a threat as quick as people assume
Like there's a very famous write-up from New York SWAT team
Where they literally had to retrain their officers to shoot for the head
Because the rounds were very weak
It would still hurt i assume lol, i wouldnt want to be shot by an mp7
Or anything for that matter
You can say that about any caliber really, but like it still doesn't justify how weak it is
Even then, you hear plenty of different stories of people who run around. Not noticing they have actually been shot due to adrenaline
Idk about grains and kinetic energy and stuff but i assume it would be more effective than a 22 or a 17hmr
It's really not any more effective if not on par
Damn so tarkov is accurate then
Real
But yeah like 9 mm is more effective
It's really annoying to hear the amount of people who don't realize there are armor piercing 9 mm rounds
They exist
Hell the all lead light rounds have been known to go through 3a
Nikita when
Or whatever material it is
I live in the uk so i have no idea really about any of this stuff. I was in the armed forces in 2012 but i only got to use 5.56 rifles
L85
Pretty much to put into perspective of how the development kind of went for that caliber. It was trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist
And a lot of the development of the caliber itself was on outdated armor
For 5.7 and 4.6
L85a2 acshually 🤓
Still the first weapon that if added to tarkov, will have a starting point of -1 ergo
It would melt too and the charging handle would snap
And the cheek pad would melt and stick to the side of your face
Also it's weird that you can draw a parallel to the issue of the m1 carbine in WW2 where they wanted backline troops to have something more powerful
But since you added an AP requirement it's a little tougher than "here have a .30 carbine that fires with the same energy at 100 yards that a .357 has at muzzle
I wonder where the idea for a cut down m4 came from lol
Now youre starting to think a little too much
I'm gonna thonk even harder
A brain can only be so big...
Yup, feeds from modified Uzi mags in a regular M16 lower with adapter in magwell
I was literally thinking, "the straight mag reminds me of an Uzi"
Yeah they were cheap and readily available
Ofc it lost out in most cases to the mp5
"Thank you isreal for your magazines" - america probably
Lol they owe us more than that plus interest
Fix m4 recoil BSG
I wish we could have such freedom here in the uk
Just a normal range day here lmao
Here in the uk you get arrested for praying in your own house.
40mm go bonk
It's not the first time that Colt has experimented with small guns
The n23 was a 556 7.5-in barrel
Originally designed for the the Colt survival rifle program
But never ended up getting developed it ended up getting scrapped
And they made something else
Later it would be picked up on again for the kitty cat guns
Kind of based
Gimme this
ah the port firing weapon. XM something. Didn't that have like MG42 levels of rate of fire?
Yeah it was a beast
just looked it up Rof was 1050-1300 lol
M231 port firing weapon
still in service at least on paper
Some of our newer vehicles still have firing ports* designed for them. Even though we don't have m231's lol
Gun jesus has a video on it ofc
clearly just buy em clearly
Clearly!
I have an obsession with the m231’s just a bit it is one of my favorite ar variants
Not even really a variant
Hilarious that they shoot from an open bolt and it’s safe and giggle switch only
The old M231. We had these at my first unit.
I known old Bradley commander from very early GWOT that carried one around on a 550 sling in OIF
Give me the m231 in tarky nikita
Steel wire stock is -3 ergo and like -5% recoil
WEW all these high pressure announcements came as soon as that shit went public
6.8 M60 lmfao
the year is 2056 and the pig still eats
I don’t doubt the performance, it’s just new and I’m scared of new
it's more sensible than the previous OSS can
which also garnered the same hate for the same reasons
octagons for everyone
The future is angular
mind you the gun is supposedly not safe to fire with m855
do we happen to have some people here in europe selling some zenitco ?
got a 18" WBP that i need B33 dustcover and im not sure about what to put on it in the front if leader kit is what i should get or not
and i also need a Ambi safety selector if someone knows where i can find one that is not a US retailer
Based
Then you're good
what instrument did you play in band
meat flute virtuoso
Ngl, I would not trust that gun
The m60 was kinda already unsafe ass in 308
I don’t know, they’re onto like the E6 and those guns were pretty heavily revised. Wouldn’t be concerned
Larger question is for whom
Yeah, that would be interesting
And the E6 didn’t fix op rods/ bolts breaking
It fixed the throwaway stretching receivers
They'd be using all the spooky alloys for something like this
I assume they're using it as a test bed because all the previous work was done on m60s
500 otd
Now I need a Tupperware container
The new camera is here
🔥
gosh dam
Based
@lone moss is that an older porsche
Yeah 955 cayenne turbo
Oh nice
🔥
@round sentinel finally got wifi in my room
Downloading so much shit right now 
Most of the Forza games on pc, and on my Xbox, and so much other stuff
Fartza
How is a cayenne considered an old Porsche. Man I'm old.
I used to carry a .40, but fuck me if this 5.7 isn't the coolest shit ever
Wonderful, as long as you get one that’s been maintained with service records it will really only ever need basic service items plenty of peeps pushing into the 500k+ mark. It’s really just a lot of small things here and there and the air suspension can be problematic at times but you can always get one without or swap it out
You should just go back to the 40
Yeah. My buddy had a 1st gen S. Ran like a dream. Only issue was the common wire corrosion under the rear seats due to Canadian winters
What
In Vienna Austria. They dont have that American shit lmao
NOOOO
Now I'm in Slovakia
Bring me back something good
@golden marlin drink the whole bucket and see what's the best grouping you can get
Nah I can't
Unless I drive to my other range spot
Police were all over my neighborhood yesterday
Is your eotech wearing a hat
It is not lmao
I see a brim
I have a sunshade on it
Aw cute
Doesn't make sense to put a kill flash on the EOTech
I'm so confused about the cops
Cause they were at my neighbor's house like 4 of them then I saw them drive off come back down the road
And 1 guy walking on foot
It makes it look like that one optic from DI
Would be dope
I'm waiting for strike to make their 37mm m320
So I can toss it on there for the classic mw2 noob toob set up
Yeah if you don’t clear out the sunroof drains then they can leak water into the interior which becomes a nightmare
That's happened to me on nearly every car I've ever owned.
Acura TL. BMW X3. Dodge Viper.
Reckon it's the pollen
With your sunhat eotech
Not so much pollen, really depends where you park the car if it’s underneath a tree especially, debris just gets clogged in the drain ports. If you have an air compressor or access to one just blow them out seasonally and you’ll never have an issue
nah im digging the performance of 5.7 over 40 immensely
the performance is worse
its a glorified varment round
lmao its great
better followup, frangible, more capacity, faster velocity
im thinking this was the better call dawg
that sounds like a skill issue for the follow up
more capacity doesnt matter if the round doesnt do shit
and the frangible not really
its lacks much
"what is that? a 22?" - the guy who died seconds later
from all actual use its proven to do worse
literally theres a great document on this
someone must be a 40 fanboy or smth
you have this paper you talked about?
Literally most normal calibers are a better option than 5.7
yes
it solidly depends ig, a 5.7 still takes your skull off, i wanted something accurate at range
Tada
NYPD swat team retraining officers to aim for the head
Over body shots
Cause the round was found to be too weak
Uh There’s plenty of other handguns that are better options at range ?
Swapped over to 556 cause guess what
I shoot my mk23 past 100 yards quite often with 0 issues
5.7 doesn't even solve the made up role it was made for
Its a fucking garbage round 9mm is better
there is no pistol round that carries the velocity a 5.7 does
5.7 and 4.6 were designed to defeat soft body armor at age end of soft body armor, it was obsolete out the get go
It was tested on outdated body armor that was built differently at the time
Velocity doesn’t mean everything lmao
im a civilian, im not gonna be beating body armor anyway
Bingo
except it is?

It doesn't
It really doesn't
That makes up a fraction of actual performance
sure grapeshot is more effective but im not carrying a cannon
7.5 brno is 200fps faster out of a handgun
7.62x25 sabot
And actual use
Also faster
If velocity is what killed, every single handgun or gun in the world would be oriented to shoot the hottest fastest velocity cartridges and loadings which they aren’t so point literally proven you are so wrong
thats an ridiculously expensive option
Ok poor

only morons buy 7k handguns
flex being pimped all you want dawg
It’s like 1500$
LMAO
Then get a tokarev for 200 bucks from a pawn shop and get sabot ammo
Dog just admit you don’t know shit and take some advice from people who do
You just make yourself look more stupid
This is like roomtemp iq shit
Bro got his knowledge from the back of a milk carton
sorry the field version is 10k
im not an idiot lmao
You have yet to prove otherwise
@lone moss post mk23
i literally just proved i didnt pull the stupid figure from my ass, i just went low lmao
You did
By claiming no other round can match
Then claimed MoRe VeLoCiTy BeTtA
45 is a terrible round lmao

"MUH TWO WORLD WARS"
It's not lmao it's been readopted so many times
That’s why it’s still been in production for over a 100 years 
For supers
its outdated af
It's not
it really is
It literally does more than 5.7
.45 is more useful than 5.7 will ever be and that is a fact
it is terrible against armor which was like your whole argument
Very universal
Subs for quiet
5.7 isn’t good against armor or soft targets, .45 is good against soft targets
5.7 is literally designed for armor?
It barely does shit it was designed during outdated armor trials
because the things youre saying are super redneck knownothing type shit
And even then it was filling a need that didn't exist
It’s literally not, go look up the nato trials for 5.7 and 4.6
and again i dont need mine against armor
rifles better suit that need
Literally end of an era an outdated tech
THEN STOP MENTIONING IT
You fucking moron
you brought up the armor use not me
i said it was better than 40
lets not rewrite shit alr?
you wanted to fuckng argue over a picture of a handgun
Also saying something is worse than 40 isnt a compliment to 40 if anything its an insult to both calibers
Like I don't care for 40 but modern 40 is better than modern 5.7
The only people who like 40 are rayquantavious and fudds
can you just stfu?
Cause clearly you have buyers remorse for 5.7
no i dont
Cause you bought a glorified 22 mag
i dont like fudds telling me i made a mistake not buying a 1911
That literally is worse
What's your opinion on the kriss vector @sturdy steeple
i like it
its fun to shoot
Ah there it is
Who is telling you to buy a 1911? That’s been none of our points here you still aren’t listening

You should buy a usp
literally not everything has to be a super performance tool of warfare ffs
You should
At least the USP passed its trials
no shit stupid, i dont want to argue over whats best or whats shit
And that’s totally fine but you made claims that 5.7 is the greatest due to velocity
Ive been looking at getting a p8
No one's saying that cause you aren't listening to shit
You are basing your whole opinion off a cereal box
Therefore you’re an idiot, you don’t understand how ballistics actually work

i said it was the fastest cartridge, velocity is performance
It’s literally not though 
alr man
You still aren’t listening holy fuck 
Get a usp or mk23
A simple 15 second google would tell you you don’t know shit
i do not want to discuss your favorite guns
Literally never commented on the NYPD swat team use
I already have a usp c
That’s fine but learn some common fucking sense about firearms before opening your mouth
Its my edc
It literally doesn't matter if you live there or not it's a case of real world use showing it sucks
what part of "yes moron, im not listening" fails to wrap around your head
Then I wouldn't both the newer ages of pistols they made to replace the USP and mk23 are not made as well as the originals
None of it because this is super entertaining to me, I enjoy watching you dig this hole deeper and everybody in here will disregard your opinion and you

i dont have an opinion
i have apistol
i posted it
jesus fuck
You did cause we are here now
Ah there it is blissful ignorance when the moron is cornered, comedy won’t save you
This sounds like bucketless behavior
What am I missing damn
5.7 cope
Why are all 5.7 owners like this?
Cause they have to justify the garbage performance
Cool concept but shit execution
Why is there coffee in your nightcrawler container
Just admit you bought it for fun and it’s not the best cartridge in the world and you won’t be made fun of it’s not that fucking hard lmao
Because America runs on dunkin
The best cartridge in the world is .308
I would use it for small varmits 💀
To make it your new carry is dumb
It's all it's good for
Cope 6.5 sneedmore fans
I’d carry my 1903 before a 5.7
But at that point just use .22 LR like a regular person who doesn’t want to spend their life savings on rounds
Ok but that's based
I'd carry my fn1900 if that's the case
Sbr it and make it an obrez
Be like mark Twain in this hoe
22 lr also actually meets the ballistics gel requirements for the fbi
5.7 doesn't
It tends to stop short at 9 to 10 inches

“but but but MY 5.7 DOES!!”
Hey hey hey their girlfriends are happy with my 5in
Some would say above average performance
I have scrolled to witness that 5.7 why the fuck is that muzzle device on it

spits fireballs
its cool
Anything can spit fireballs with the help of autism
i mean thats true but this one does it very spectacularly for a 28gr round
dont get me wrong i liked my 40, had it for like 3 years, but this thing to me was a better choice

Yeah imma stick to 9 mil
The better choice
All I've gathered from the few lines I've read is you only have one gun, for some reason its a 5.7, and it used to be a .40
i sold the 40 to my buddy, god love georgia for that
You may be a walking stereotype
The correct choice some may say
i have a 12g too
The best choice some may say
and my grandfathers 22
Indeed 🧠
Muh .45
I need my space mac parts
the 12g is an 870
I'm still waiting for my new USW brace to arrive
the 'non nfa firearm' lmaoooo
It finally hit the states
So maybe tomorrow
I'll get it
I just have to thread it when I get it
They prioritizing VA orders for the colt mag lowers cause of their new dumb bans
Lmao
So will be a bit for mine sadly
And I don’t feel like running a Glock lower when colt mag drip can exist
I have come to really hate Glock mag lowers
Played with my buddies. B&T kh9
The feed angle is just terrible
Cute 
I believe it
not the same, this is in a nice ring shape
looks very coo
Lmao yeah my ported shit was always tarded
porting is great
Fr
It’s so much better looking fr
1000%
It’s gonna look great with that space Mac upper
Will share when it’s done
Anyone used MFR56 belt fed upper? 👀 I have an extra lower I wanna throw that on
Don’t have the pic
But im proud of owning a TOZ 17-01 Baikal
Because im not at home RN
I also own a Le Robuste , a french double barrel shotgun
(Wich i hide from governement)
And a MAS 1872
Who (not) protected my ancestor in verdun
Because yes , the gun was actually a gun from my ancestor , this is pretty metal
It’s a 1873 , 1872 is for swiss army
500 smith is fun!!
@round sentinel I’m about to to the mp7 at home with the keltec cmr-30
What do we think so far
Ditch the magpul forearm
Tis a vibe
Completely adequate, ignore all other suggestions and get a sling and light and you're gtg
Loved seeing the 5.7 cope
Literal goyslop
Huh don’t think I’ve ever seen yours
Im good, thanks
You don’t HAVE to ditch it, but if you want to run a light and sling mount there are many more other ways that are much easier and more accommodating like 1913 rail or Mlok
This. Thoroughbred is selling surplus KAC RIS rails. Can’t go wrong with proven pic rail
Midwest is also a good option for just a drop in
I’d carry one of or both of these before a 5.7
Belt fed
Based as always
It’s belt fed that’s where your belt feeds.
The magpul handguard is literally covered in mlok slots...
I can see you’ve never owned one, those top portions around the 10-2 o clock range aren’t actual Mlok, there is only actual Mlok at the bottom.
Plus it’s fucking plastic.
Dog, its literally mlok as advertised on their site
I cant help you couldn't figure out how to install it correctly
What part about not real Mlok was misunderstood?
What part about it's literally mlok as advertised and as the millions of pics on the internet with shit attached show?
I think I understand Mlok just fine. Once again go buy one, lemme know how it works out. Anyone can make something work with a little bit of time and persuasion.
Holy cringe
You mean the rifle that cost more than your annual salary? 💀
Sit down
Bro posts a 3k gun and says it’s expensive 💀
NF ATACR is kinda a flex by itself ngl
Little bitch thought he'd flex lmao
You mean the L3 Cratos that’s on my rifle?
Can afford that but somehow cant afford a complete LMT lmao more money than sense
Yeah that thing
Oh you mean the rifle I built myself that is literally more advantageous in every sense than yours 💀
Lmfao holy cringe
Is that rifle your only personality? The one thats never been shot judging by your pristing can
I guess I’m not seeing your LAM either 🧐 or nods
I took that picture right after I got the can 😂
Real men use white light
Bros got all that just to be a loot drop
I want to buy a svt so bad
Pretty sure my OGL is the same price as your LMT but go off queen
What'd you pay for it
I find it funny i cant own a semi auto center fire rifle...yet i can have a saiga 12 with drum mag
Don’t have to pay, NV dealer 🤓 but if I had to pay for a FP OGL it’s close to 3k alone
Gun laws have never made sense, no matter what time period or country
Must be nice
Don’t hate the player hate the game
I would love to live in america for the guns but not much else lol
So you didn't actually pay for half of your shit is what youre telling me?
Quad nods are top tier larp material
I mean I pay in tubes if that’s what you’re insinuating 🧐
Very minimal use case that anyone would ever have a need for them
Yeah weird flex Lil bro
I guess I’m just missing the part where you posted some supposed expensive rifle and I was to act like it’s a lot of money
I used old nv googles during my service and they were crazy to look through. Wonder what its like with current tech
Do you collect EBT too?
Where at?
I wish, you know how many other homes I’d have?
Afghanistan 2012 i used pvs 14's very breifly
Are you Mexican by chance?
PVS in 12 would be gen 3 if you were army, marines would be either gen 2+ or 3 so you’re on par with how it is currently
Take me to dinner first gosh 💅🏻
Definitely a beaner
I’m comically white
Majority of the Canadians and Brits I’ve seen move to the US love it, but it’s not always the case. Handful didn’t like it. Ik Christian Craighead moved to the US and he was a SAS Operator, lives in Texas now iirc
Arguing in weapons chat rather than dms is so funny
Posting LMT to try and flex on 25k rifle is funny
Damn so nv tech isnt moving as fast as i thought
Elbit won the contract for da army so theyre gonna be making new nv or someshit
Allegedly
Your two attachments make up like 95% of that price lmao, ones you got for free. Like I said, weird ass fucking flex but expected from someone that plays tarkov for a living
The one i used was just for one eye and was kind of jarring to use but it made peoples ciggarettes look like flashlights from like 400 meters away
I mean depends on how you look at it I guess, the quads I showed you control everything now through your phone but I mean there’s only so much you can do with the IR spectrum straight visibility wise, the bridged thermal and NV stuff is cool in theory but kind of sucks
Elbit won contract for everyone
I remember seeing stuff about clip on thermal overlays for nvgs that makes it look like a video game
My wallet hurts thinking abt that
I tried selling my 14 to these air force cats and they were flabbergasted by the price im asking
Oh no yeah COTI’s are the way not the bridged shit they do now the only issue you eventually run into is all that weight in front of your face
Spec sheet or no? And green or white?
lol I made him so mad he stalked old ass photos, told you I’m comically white
Thats so petty lmao
Spec sheet, wp, soft case, minty manual, max14 j arm and argus a4
Yeah I wanted to find out, you weren't lying
Mfs think a 14 is worth like 50 bucks
That’s an easy like 3500 ish range what were you asking?
Exactly that lmfao
Theres probably a chinese pvs 14 clone thats just as good for like 3 candy bars
Yea dudes gotta be on crack trying to get NV for cheap now that L3 doesn’t sell to Civ market
Most of it is digital and is ass
Now shine a light at them and burn the tube
No ty
Or accidentally leave them on in a bright room
Imagine paying 3k and not taking care of it
I got issued them and i treated it like a toy
When the us withdrew the people from the sandbox, mfs stashed nvgs in their personal luggages and brought it home
Ive seen sellers scratching the s/n and i was like i know why you did that👀
Property of ----airy----
Fp ngals too 😩


