irl-weapons

[scenic jetty]

Got the restless rifle syndrome

[lone moss]

I’m a handgun guy primarily so

[scenic jetty]

ah

Yea I just have my Glock 17

[lunar marsh]

Just sold my G43X. Sat in safe nearly 18 months without being touched. Determined I had no need for it

[golden marlin]

300 I believe

Would be very based

[echo cairn]

Mk23 killer

[wheat oasis]

Ha

[echo cairn]

Killed more snakes than the mk23 🤷🏼‍♂️

[scenic jetty]

Hmm…

[scenic jetty]

Technically there is a mk23 at home

[golden marlin]

That's the quote they have during the first announcement

[wheat oasis]

Frt ?

[echo cairn]

Not in this one

[wheat oasis]

Dang

Not cool

[scenic jetty]

No but a long slide Glock in .45

[echo cairn]

Ask the cotton mouth missing a head, one round isn't fun to deal with

Still more fun than any mk23

[wheat oasis]

I love walking around my grandmas with snakeshot in the mk24

[scenic jetty]

You forgot the best addition to that .22

[lone moss]

I sold mine not super long ago too

[lunar marsh]

Where gun?

[hushed salmon]

Oh boy

Actual rifle tho. Not a meme

[lone moss]

Still wondering too

[wheat oasis]

Haha nice

[blazing temple]

Congrats on being a slightly less bionic man

[lunar marsh]

Haha. If I can’t be full terminator then I don’t want any. All or nothing

[lunar marsh]

Probably doesn’t even own a real gun

[scenic jetty]

There is a lot of shit on there but it works

[hushed salmon]

Yep

[mint helm]

What's with the Israeli obsession on condition 3 carry...

[hushed salmon]

Safety first!

(I don't use barrel flags. They tend to cause stoppages)

I get called out on it. Whatever. I'd rather not die.

[ivory violet]

Certified silly goose spotted

[languid zenith]

Evil ass guns that kill you

[median osprey]

KS-1 arrived in NFA jail

[proven badger]

You ever feel like that tail hook brace doesn’t give you a proper shoulder mount? Thinking about getting one for a future SP5 build

If it feels fine for 7.62x39, it should be fine for 9mm, even if it’s super safe

[golden marlin]

mines printed but ive used the real

one

and it works fine

[proven badger]

👍 good to know

Looks so much better than this shit

[golden marlin]

its stiff

so you dont have to worry about it collapsing in

cause its all metal

[scenic jetty]

@golden marlin hear me out wolfpack mini draco setup

[floral veldt]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[lunar marsh]

Post your real gun

[blazing temple]

at this point he has more responses asking for him to post his guns than he has messages sent in this entire server

[lunar marsh]

😂😂😂

[median osprey]

shiii i thought this was airsoft

[modest hatch]

For a first revolver being mindful of a budget is a Taurus 608 w/ red dot + 150 rds of 38 for 625 a good start?

Oh yeah I was sent pictures

My other option is a S&W 686-6 for 830. Nothing included, just gun and case.

[proven badger]

I'd wait for a sale on those

PSA was running a bunch of sales a while back on the 686 6 inch model. I ended up picking one up for like $650 and have seen them around that price various times since

[modest hatch]

Cheers for the info

[proven badger]

No problem. I just checked gun deals and PSA was selling them for $699 a month ago and $650 2 months ago

[unique fjord]

is some airsofter trying to be hot shit again

[golden marlin]

Peak

Absolutely peak

[scenic jetty]

yea i think it would be pretty cool

[hot locust]

Were the fab core stocks good

[hushed salmon]

Yes.

I use a colt Canada stock. But the gl core ones are nice

[golden marlin]

With the new kommando store jacket hell yeah

[lusty rapids]

Cheaper to just give the guy your wallet

[severe juniper]

Or just don't be poor.

5.7 isn't that expensive.

[proven badger]

It’s also not that good

[tired aurora]

the HK is cheap build.

then again i'd be buying a 4.6 SP7 ngl soo

can't judge

[wheat oasis]

💯

[severe juniper]

HK?

[hot locust]

Thanks

[tired aurora]

oh you're the UMP guy makes sense didn't remember the name

the ump45 keychain is just cherry on top of the autism cupcake

[severe juniper]

I change my discord name like I change my cloths.

[tired aurora]

oh fair then

[severe juniper]

I like trains.

[tired aurora]

okay made a note

there now i'll know who you are in the future xD

[lunar marsh]

Fuck trains

[soft jay]

True you can live of instant noodles

[soft jay]

You forgot Mk23

[severe juniper]

I skip lunch every day.

[scenic jetty]

Yea I’ll pass paying more then 308

[placid basin]

New suppressor

yeeeee

[true mist]

"no babe yours is perfect, the big ones hurt"

[placid basin]

💀

[echo cairn]

@ocean pike now light him a new ass

[ocean pike]

aint no need

there's no cure for that disease

[placid basin]

?

[unique fjord]

smol

[placid basin]

Indeed, prob gonna sound like shit

but I wanted something short and didn’t making shooting suppressed a pain in the ass and this fits that

$800 ain’t bad either

[unique fjord]

I need to get a 9mm sup some day

[livid holly]

5” 54 caliber shell from my ship

@hushed salmon

[tired aurora]

Half of the frequent posters in here own one or more of those xD

[livid holly]

cough @round sentinel cough

[timid belfry]

New sp5 came in

[round sentinel]

Im the original

[vast smelt]

Just finished a 450 bushmaster build any suppressor recommendations?

[carmine tide]

omega

[proven hearth]

@round sentinel I lied I changed my mind no grom. Im getting a ktm duke

[round sentinel]

Yknow. That’s a reasonable pick too

[proven hearth]

I think it'll be a bit better suited for the roads around the dfw area, as much as i like the grom i think itd struggle on some of them. Found a 2018 with 2.1k miles for 3.2k which is the same price as the grom i found.

[proven badger]

Quite the change

I almost bought a KLX300 a few weeks away. I still am kicking myself for not buying it. Would have been the perfect bike for me

[proven hearth]

Yeah i realize that, my thing about it is, i just want a decent bike for trekking around the city with. Being able to have the power to get up and go with traffic speeds on some of these roads has made me realize that a grom might not be as well suited for what im wanting right now. Just a bit more versatile, i can actually use this to get on the highway to take a exit a mile or two instead of having to take all back roads like i would on a grom.

Im only gonna get the 390, i dont need a whole lot of power for what i want. Just enough to feel content on some of these 55mph roads

[proven badger]

I was looking at groms before and have concluded they are dumb af, especially at their current price point

[proven hearth]

They are dumb, but theyre also so fucking cool lmao. I really like the highly modified stretched ones.

[proven badger]

I want something road legal that won't get me killed at highway speeds, and can handle dirt.

[proven hearth]

Just sucks that ive changed my mind so now i gotta return these lowering springs for the forks and lowering link i bought for the rear end

[proven badger]

I've already taken 2 trips this summer where I wish I could have taken a bike to enjoy the sand/gravel/dirt backroads, and singletrack dirt stuff

[proven hearth]

I mean i guess i could keep them for later actually. I would still like a grom to fuck around and learn to stunt on

[proven badger]

True

[proven hearth]

Id feel alot less bad about trashing a grom

[proven badger]

I'm actually kicking myself over the marketplace deal I backed out on for the motorcycle I was looking at

I should just hang it up and not get one at this point lmao

[proven hearth]

I really havent rode heavy since my magna

I just miss it

[blazing temple]

Next thing you know we will be seeing honda in gixxer brah videos

[proven hearth]

I grew up riding dirt bikes and atv's, just miss fucking around and having fun

[proven hearth]

Lol i was thinking about getting a gopro, not to like upload rides while i talk or anything but just for if anyone does some wreckless shit in front of me i can use the video in court

[proven badger]

This clueless dude was going to sell me his KLX300 for $3500 and he was throwing in a nice helment, alpinestar mx boots, a loading ramp, and an unused harley riding jacket with the tags on it. Bike had 220 miles. It didn't start so I ran up to autozone and bought a lithium battery for it, installed it. Bike started right up and I road it around the block with no riding experience. Something in my gut said don't buy it, don't buy a bike.

It was a 2023

[proven hearth]

Shouldve snagged it

3500 is a good deal

[proven badger]

I know man, I'm actually beating myself over it

But the timing was kind of fucked too, I had so much going on in my personal life and was about to leave for a trip, I just felt overwhelmed and backed out like an idiot

I was watching marketplace for months before that

[proven hearth]

What's a good center stand to get? Ive never owned one. Also didnt lube the chain like i probably shouldve on my old magna

[proven badger]

I might snag a honda XR150L to fuck around on because I can get one for dirt cheap. It's a powerless piece of shit, but it's a piece of shit that will run forever

Cheaper than a grom in the used market where I'm at, and far more capable

[proven hearth]

These things look sick though

You could also always see about 250 swapping it

[proven badger]

💯

There's so many mods you can do to them, and they are damn reliable bikes

[proven hearth]

I was looking into stupid little turbo kits for the grom the other day

[proven badger]

I kind of just want something I can throw in the bed of my truck and explore new places with. I'm not a hardcore rider, and I have an interest in dirt riding. Would be cool to have for the trips I take in the fututre.

[proven hearth]

It's fucking adorable

[proven badger]

The grom is cool because of all the aftermarket. People do so much to those little bikes

It's just kind of crazy how much they cost, even in the used market

[proven hearth]

How much is the one you were looking at?

[proven hearth]

Costs are up on used because new groms are still on a hold stop

[proven badger]

XR150L? I haven't really locked in on one yet. I've just been casually browsing marketplace for them.

There are a TON of klx230s available near me too

[proven hearth]

Oh I thought you meant you found one for dirt cheap

[proven badger]

I think I'm to tall for them though

And some of these dual sports are so damn heavy

It's ridiculous honestly. That's one of the things that held me back from buying the KLX300

[proven hearth]

You could always take the seat to an upholstery shop and have them add foam to raise it up. Then relocate the pegs. Hell someone might make a lowered peg kit for them

Idk. I wouldnt put know but you might get lucky. Or learn to weld

[proven badger]

The more I research, I realize there just isn’t a bike that can do highway speeds comfortable, and is light enough to do some single track

UNLESS, you spend $10k on a ktm lmao

[proven hearth]

I dont plan to ride on the highway much at all except for maybe some short distances so its not a giant concern

At least for me

[proven badger]

I just feel if I ever find myself on the highway, ideally I’d like to go the speed of or faster than traffic so I don’t get merged into

Honestly I just live in the wrong place for a bike right now. It’s nothing but busy ass road and highways. I’d probably be dead in a year trying to navigate this shit

If I move to a western state, a dual sport will definitely be in the works for me

[proven hearth]

I live in the dfw like i said, it's pretty congested here during the day but im more of a night owl anyway. And the roads are much more dead, i really only get out in the day if i have to

[proven badger]

I just don’t want to commit to street riding

Sketches me out way too much

I’ve had family members and friends die to it

[proven hearth]

Ive rode alot on the street, i know quite a few people who have to. Trust i get it. I just miss riding and don't have anywhere to ride a dirt bike. So street it is

[proven badger]

Very understandable, streets are all I have for hours

[proven hearth]

Most of my riding back when i was a kid was on dirt bikes. Then got into enduro's, then moved to street bikes before i stopped after my accident

But im ready to get back into it. Been years, time to just say fuck it and face it and get back on

[proven badger]

I’m in Ohio right now

The thought of dying in traffic in Ohio is not appealing lmao

[proven hearth]

Damn, blud got ohio'd

[proven badger]

I’d take the risk if I lived in a beautiful state like Colorado, Montana, or Utah

If I got t boned by a soccer mom in an Ohio suburb, I’d be so pissed with myself 😂

[proven badger]

It’s not as bad as people make it out to be. In many ways, the Midwest states are the last places in America where someone can live the American dream

[proven hearth]

I laid my magna down going 55 because some dude essentially cut me off. Legs still dont grow hair from where i got road rash lmao

[proven badger]

Ooof

I have a few friends who don’t ride anymore because they crashed

One broke a hip and was in the hospital for a month

[lofty osprey]

44 special is great suppressed if anyone is considering. Can is a DA primal on a SW 1854

[proven badger]

Another crashed going 170mph and walked away from the crash unscathed. He took it as a sign to give up riding lmao

[proven hearth]

I just think im ready, i rode my homies shit the other day and realized how badly i missed riding.

Crashing at 170 and walking away is wild

I think i want the duke too because it's a light bike with good mid range power so i can really lean into it and learn how to ride better. That plus the more heads up seating position

[proven badger]

It’s crazy some of the crashed people walk away from when another car isn’t involved

[proven hearth]

True that tbh

[proven badger]

I think KTM had an enduro bike with the 390 engine that I was looking at before

[proven hearth]

Honestly, if honda made a cb hornet with a 390 id be getting that instead

Im just a honda boy at heart. Kind of sucks they dont since im not trying to get alot of power out of it but still

[scenic jetty]

dam

[true mist]

it just depends on what you mean by comfortable tbh

There are some good Ptwin options as long as "comfortable" for you doesnt mean wanting to sit at 120mph at 4k rpm

and the used adventure bike market is really great, they go for basically norhing

[true mist]

the last year or so, i really only rode when my girlfriend wanted to, and i havent ridden since my crash at the track in january, so i get it

[hushed salmon]

Make it into an ashtray

[livid holly]

I don’t smoke

[true mist]

i love lucky no filters

peak cigarette

i stopped smoking for a job application tho

[carmine tide]

That'll change

[hushed salmon]

Sounds like a you problem

I quit after my last deployment.

Will most likely start again the next one lmao

[wheat oasis]

X400 picked up for the mk23

[round sentinel]

Based. Keep it that way

[round sentinel]

You should’ve gotten the masterfire holster version 😭

[carmine tide]

Im gonna teach him how to drink a monster while packing a lip and not get juice mixed in

[round sentinel]

That’s disgusting

[carmine tide]

Its efficient

[round sentinel]

Both literally and the behavior

[blazing temple]

The masterfire doesn't really mark all that well

However it is very funny walking around with suppressed big iron on my hip

[round sentinel]

Lol what

[wheat oasis]

Friend of mine found it in a pawnshop

I would have

[round sentinel]

Yknow. Completely fair

[wheat oasis]

If I found one

[round sentinel]

How much she run

[wheat oasis]

350

[round sentinel]

Not bad at all

Def worth it

[wheat oasis]

Yeah unfortunately the UH models are around 700+

[wheat oasis]

[proven badger]

based

(I'm addicted to caffeine)

[carmine tide]

We all are

[carmine tide]

I wish I could understand the logic of people who buy polymer ar lowers

I wish I was that fucking stupid

Even psa/bca metal lowers are better

And are like $10 more

[proven badger]

SP5 has polymer lower

[livid holly]

Nah, I saw what nicotine did to my older brother and no thanks

[carmine tide]

Read what I said

What's that in-between polymer and lowers

Is the sp5 an ar

[proven badger]

Doesn't matter

[carmine tide]

Drink more caffeine until your brain works

[proven badger]

I'm dry scooping pre workout

[hushed salmon]

100%. I was kidding. Do not smoke.

[carmine tide]

I'm not

Dip Copenhagen @livid holly

Not these pussy ass zyns you people like

[proven badger]

My morning pick me up

[lunar marsh]

I smoked pipe tobacco on deployment. Just something to do

[carmine tide]

Did it have purple flowers that might notve been tobacco

[lunar marsh]

Hahaha no it was legit tobacco shipped from the states

[lone moss]

I need to get back into my pipes it’s been a while

[lunar marsh]

I tried it again a few years back. Didn’t care for it

[golden marlin]

Pipe tobacco is probably the cleanest that you were going to smoke

Idk if you feel the same about that but it definitely seems more rich

[lone moss]

It really is, it’s def a different type of smoke that takes time and patience

[livid holly]

Fucking ew

Anything with nicotine is a no go

Not to mention fuckass tobacco

[golden marlin]

Plus it's at the end of the day. It doesn't stay in your mouth

The problem most people have is they lack the patients to be able to actually go through the process of the assembly

[lone moss]

100%, it takes practice to even have it packed and lit properly

Otherwise it doesn’t work lmao

[golden marlin]

Exactly

Much better than cigarettes

[lunar marsh]

That’s the part of it I enjoyed overseas.

[golden marlin]

Summer time is when I always got cravings especially around the 4th

[lone moss]

I should light mine up when I get home later tbh

[hushed salmon]

That's badass. I took up rolling my own tobacco last deployment.

Actually I shouldn't call it a deployment in your presence lol

[mint helm]

@golden marlin you're left based right

[golden marlin]

Yeah

[round sentinel]

That’s actively worse for lefties Kek

[fringe prawn]

is that a straight pull
AR lol. Do we live in the UK now?

[hushed salmon]

This isn't for lefties.

[storm wigeon]

Thoughts on rifle? I used to have an EOtech on it so it still has the backup sights. Might get a 45° for them idk seems too much

[mint helm]

I don't see how somebody right handed is going to be having fun with it.

Whereas a lefty could cycle it like a normal bolt action, right?

[carmine tide]

@hushed salmon @golden marlin hehehhehehe....its a cup cake

[lone moss]

Holy Shit this is like the most normal rifle setup a newbie has posted

[golden marlin]

Surprisingly decent

Like if there was anything I would change would be the placement of the hand stop

It should be pushed out a little more

But besides that, it's solid and get a decent light on there

[hushed salmon]

Lefties can cycle a normal bolt action. But they can't normally cycle a bolt action. Feel me?

[hushed salmon]

I'll take 17 right now.

[carmine tide]

jesus christ

youre like 50 you cant eat like that

[storm wigeon]

Yeah, I had to cuss and make it by cutting off an end of a normal handstop and putting it next to a vertical. The idea is that you'd put your index finger over the hand stop and your thumb on top and it locks in your other three fingers in between the handstop and the vertical grip

It sounds super weird but it works extremely well. It also allows for you to press the rifle up against something and still have the full accessibility of a vertical grip

[golden marlin]

I mean I understand that, but you can also just push it a little more forwards

I generally do what a lot of people do now where you more or less scoop the top section of the foregrip

In cradle it between the handguard and the grip

And I just feel like that would be invading my space

Just a little further forwards and it would be perfect

[thorny flame]

you are overthinking this

[faint bay]

[lone moss]

Literally this

[storm wigeon]

Fair enough

[blazing temple]

the normal lock doesnt like to index very well so you have to use the secondary lock to secure it

and even the normal lock when you get it to secure unless you have alien thumbs you aren't reaching the extended release with your hand on the gun

[round sentinel]

Huh?!

It indexes great tho?

I’ve been abusing my masterfire for like 2-3 years

And I hit the extended release fine

[blazing temple]

maybe its a one off issue with mine

I seem to never be able to get the normal lock to hold

also you have alien fingies

[round sentinel]

Maybe it is

[astral schooner]

need help

[faint bay]

wrong channel

[faint bay]

would you even have that hand stop

@golden marlin or you

[thorny flame]

i asked the first time he posted it, it's just unnecessary

[faint bay]

I say one fore grip item is more than enough

[golden marlin]

It is

[faint bay]

I ran my AR with none for a fair time

before I got my gunfighter 3 which was also recommended by @golden marlin btw

[golden marlin]

[faint bay]

I mean its perfect

works really well as a hand stop for fast c-clamping and you can also grab it if you like to go thompson

my friend is doing a good job avoiding gf3

see

I said that get 2 of them gf3s and he was like "but they were out of stock everywhere"

so he has to use multiple

smh

[blazing temple]

you know

that handstop is totally unnecessary

but for some reason I think it can look kinda neat

[faint bay]

on the right one?

[thorny flame]

it's very funny this discourse has just come up again

[blazing temple]

the one you were talking about before

[thorny flame]

return to toob

[faint bay]

ok, the one on the right is a 9mm pcc

[blazing temple]

the one set up as a barrier stop in front of the grip

[faint bay]

very neat

[blazing temple]

I think that can be neat

I have nothing against standalone handstops either

I mean thats basically what I use my grip for

c clamp dat thing

[faint bay]

exactly

gotta say that that sad hand stop on that pcc is OK but gf3 wins every day

[thorny flame]

you can just cover a tube in carbide and do the same thing

[faint bay]

oh yea I actually... like those bulky mp5 SD looking front grips baha

grab that baquet

[thorny flame]

but it's pretty hard to beat a fucking JP tube setup from 15 years ago

unless you're doing laser memes

[faint bay]

you mean this?

holy shit that is one tall mount

[thorny flame]

the entire genre, yeah

[faint bay]

that rifle doesn't look too comfy but I think it could be

and that's a lefty lol

[blazing temple]

I bet its just an inverted picture

[faint bay]

I'm ambi myself (like @round sentinel I get)

[faint bay]

could be, like selfie camera

[faint bay]

not familiar with that gotta admit lol

[thorny flame]

it's just no frills setups, the bcm rail obviously more prevalent

people want to buy widgets though, understandably

[faint bay]

there is a huge market for them that is for sure

[thorny flame]

but you'll notice every top 3gun dude for example has the same rifle setup effectively

the only changes have been to the precision side of things with the arca rails

[faint bay]

look at this old pic of me ROFL. I felt very comfy with it. Even with that shitty airsoft open reflex I had for a little while

this is pretty much the setup I run these days

very plain

never too old to toy around

still this is the one I'm the most familiar with

or this baby

[thorny flame]

we love a tikka folks

[faint bay]

that's a custom with TRG barrel but yea, otherwise the same

not that the initial barrel is bad but that is just extra

I'd say that barrel replacement is the rifle price at least

when it is time to chance my own tikka barrel I think I try to get a trg barrel to it. It's thicker, it's heavier but you can do like 1.5 km hits with it

[thorny flame]

there are plenty of companies that spin up tikka prefits at this point

the sako tax is crazy

[faint bay]

yup

sako brand brings the price up insanely because mil branch

[thorny flame]

they're all like that

i had a chance to get a trg42 pretty cheap but

would have to rebarrel and the costs were insane

[faint bay]

my 10 round tikka mag was like $150 but sako branded one is $250. 1:1 mag but tikka one has that plastic sleeve that prevents it to be put into mil ones

you can get rid of it

😉

that's just their HK way to make it pricey

because mil deals

[thorny flame]

it's fine, everything is pretty accessible now

[faint bay]

yea

[thorny flame]

not the case 15 or 20 years ago

[faint bay]

and if you really want to find stupid prices look for HK G28 parts

[thorny flame]

there's basically nothing outside of maybe ELR you can't get into

for cheap

ELR is just a matter of how much money you can set on fire

[faint bay]

try to find "original" G28 "patrol" prices

they are like 10-20 k for "G28 scope setup"

[thorny flame]

yeah but they're selling systems to the govt

[faint bay]

exactly

[thorny flame]

so again the pricing isn't really transparent

[faint bay]

this

[scenic jetty]

how are these steiner scopes ?

[faint bay]

honestly? I find it very good.

some say Kahles glass is better for the same price but Steiner is made to withstand more mil context

[scenic jetty]

gotcha

[faint bay]

Kahles is a Swarovski sub brand I get

[scenic jetty]

depending on the reticle i might get one

[faint bay]

yeah I would recommend steiner

[scenic jetty]

for my bolt gun

[faint bay]

only minus for you yankees is the 10 year warranty

[thorny flame]

you can get them with the non stupid reticle

[faint bay]

but I think you can get around it in the us dealerships

I suppose if you buy a steiner from some us dealer it is really a lifetime warranty

but not sure. Probably it is.

[scenic jetty]

gotcha

theres other ones im looking at as well

[faint bay]

but I really got 2 options I was weighing. Kahles and Steiner.

I bought mine from Finnaccuracy because I love MSR

I would have gotten MSR FDF version with less stuff on the reticle, but MSR2 is the ultimate

[scenic jetty]

arent kahles super expensive as well

[faint bay]

yes, same price basically.

around 3k I think even in the us

Mine is Steiner M7xi

4-28x

[thorny flame]

hard to beat the vortex rn

if you can swing it

[scenic jetty]

i was looking at one at scheels

they have it pretty much at the same price as online

[faint bay]

the equivalent Kahles is 4-24x

[thorny flame]

also NX6 if they're shipping yet

[faint bay]

I went with the 28x that steiner offers

[thorny flame]

i know they delayed them

[faint bay]

Yea I don't say Vortex is bad in any way

but the FDF has chosen Steiners. Probably partly because Steiner is imported by Sako

and Steiners are the ones I've been operating

and I wanted the MSR-variant reticle

[thorny flame]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/306923123533

they're 2400 street or so

for the 4-24s

[faint bay]

I actually have Vortex lens caps because Steiner original caps were ass

and I mean it.

so if you end up with a Steiner scope I highly recommend to buy vortex caps because they fit so nicely you actually need some tape to open them because especially the eye piece cap might come off before opening. And that is a good thing.

That is a horrible feature in a 3k scope

if the caps open by themselves

I would not carry those in a bag

I was going with Butler Creek ones but they recommended Vortex and that was a good deal

butler creeks have that nice orange button to open the cap

or is it a shade of red

anyway 😄

[faint bay]

I have absolutely nothing against those. I just haven't operated personally Vortex scopes.

[thorny flame]

the euro stuff doesn't make a ton of sense here

in the event you have to warranty something

[faint bay]

But I think you have dealerships with nice warranty regardless right?

[thorny flame]

sure but it's still a logistical challenge

[faint bay]

yea you might end up to wait

[thorny flame]

going to wait a few months to send your shit off to kahles?

[faint bay]

thats a big argument for "domestic" scopes

[faint bay]

possibly. Hell. My friend had to wait several months to get his faulty Steiner to be replaced

even here

[thorny flame]

vortex/NF here very quick

[faint bay]

thats a big argument really

And knowing you guys and your ‘no questions asked’ policy, I would think that you’d just get a new scope and the seller would handle the reclamation fight themselves

but then again we are talking about 3k pieces

the risk to get a faulty one is pretty small

[faint bay]

actually I don't believe this is the case there if they have stocks

they surely know the risks

but you can and you should ask about it

[thorny flame]

it's a real mixed bag

[faint bay]

yea you know your shit better than me

[thorny flame]

like S&B had a service center here but they don't anymore

[faint bay]

hah

odd

too few reclamations? 👼

[thorny flame]

who knows

[faint bay]

but you are right, warranty shit is a real concern when talking about expensive stuff

I know one guy that got his Spuhr mount cracked on a wooden stock LM.338

of course they replaced it with a free item

[thorny flame]

a lot of them did

[faint bay]

yea it just happens

even the best fail

[thorny flame]

i don't think the spuhr stuff is worth the price at all here

[faint bay]

oh

that's a big statement really but then again, everything can fail

[blazing temple]

Smh they cant even spell spur right

[thorny flame]

you can get better mounts made here

[faint bay]

Spuhr is a Swedish company...... BUT I think just lately CZ bought em. And Sellier&Bellot too

[thorny flame]

yeah CZ owns everything now

[faint bay]

Czech republic is growing

we have paid them well in the EU haha

also SAKO is nowadays owned by Beretta... BUT

I still know where they make their stuff

and the zero tester is my friend

I know where to throw shit

its like 100 kms from here 😉

[thorny flame]

lot of integration like uh, mentioned the colt optics situation, obviously under CZ

but they bought out meopta awhile back?

[faint bay]

I think

[thorny flame]

so it will be curious to see how those are received

[faint bay]

but not too far, better than chinese lol

[thorny flame]

they want the .mil contracts

[faint bay]

nowadays yes

they want to challenge HK and others

HK actually sued finland for choosing SAKO ARs

and lost haha

okay I think HK is bashed here enough

anyway, @scenic jetty if you want to get a professional opinion, I'd say if you are willing to pay let's say 2k-4k for proper glass, just go and look thru them and go with the one you are comfortable with. Turret operating and glass quality. And check their reticle options too. What looks good for you.

And hopefully the guys that are selling stuff know their shit

after 1.5k that is what matters the most. Under 1.5-2k (euros at least) I would not trust too much that the turret clicks are 1:1 what they represent.

[scenic jetty]

gotcha yea the nice thing i think i have a bunch for sale at scheels which i can look through them and see if i like it or not

[faint bay]

yeah and remember you have good return policy

and if you are looking for mil conditions I'd say Steiner has some sort of reputation at least. FDF went with them. I refuse to believe it's only that sako imports that

Arken is actually a tempting option. Chinesium but I've heard that like 1 in 10 is worth it

I would not go with Arken personally

with 500 dollars you just can't get quality glass, the coating and consistent turrets etc

its just impossible

also I would not buy second hand glass ever

you just can't know what they have gone through. And how they are maintained. How they are wiped. One wrong wipe can ruin the optic. Seriously.

so lets say for me 500 dollars cheaper than a brand new is not worth it

[timid belfry]

or just buy vortex and they'll just send you a brand new one if it gets messed up

[faint bay]

that's what I thought.

nice to see you man. Long long time no speak

[timid belfry]

i broke a vortex spotting scope once, i dropped it off a shooting platform, i contacted vortex, they were out of stock, so they sent me a more expensive version for free, was on my doorstep in 3 days

[faint bay]

god bless the US and A

[timid belfry]

you too mane

vortex guarantees anything besides losing it basically, even if YOU break it.

[faint bay]

my parents got a dog last summer. A lovely one. He is practically mine haha

[timid belfry]

nice! what breed?

[unique fjord]

What flavor of dog

[faint bay]

ye like I said before, domestic products have their benefits

[faint bay]

guess

[faint bay]

rofl

[unique fjord]

Did you go cliche and get a GS

[timid belfry]

finnish lapphund

[faint bay]

VERY CLOSE!

a shiba haha

[unique fjord]

That’s cultural appropriation

[timid belfry]

[faint bay]

it's very similar like Finnish Spitz

basically same breed

[unique fjord]

helps if you share pic

So judgey

[faint bay]

he is a handful

but he loves me

[unique fjord]

Now get an orange cat

[faint bay]

oh they have 4 cats

[unique fjord]

Good answer

[timid belfry]

baby

[faint bay]

one of them is my brother's cat that grew with a Staffordshire bullterrier so she is kind of a mom to that dog

always watching and judging

[timid belfry]

My new gat came in yesterday.

Trying to decide if I want the $900 stock or not lmao

Fixed is also sick

[faint bay]

A2 for 900?

[timid belfry]

Nah the a3 is 900

[faint bay]

alright

[timid belfry]

I missspoke

[faint bay]

well you deffy need a stock

sorry I have only shot full auto mp5s. And also SD

[timid belfry]

You can get the HK fixed for like $250, the collapsible a3 stock is about $900

[proven badger]

You need it

[faint bay]

yes

[proven badger]

a3 stock or bust

(I'm going to buy a cheap ass brace)

[faint bay]

I could not imagine an mp5 without a stock sorry

but that is because I've only shot full auto with them haha

lovely guns

[faint bay]

any will do

just a couple of weeks ago I did a lot full auto with an SD

don't recommend shooting it from lefty though

got my police sunglasses full of sparks

but as I said I am an ambi so I prefer shooting that thing from right

I always try the both sides to see what is the most comfy. Right it is with that gun. As it was designed.

[unique fjord]

Just p90 an mp5, 4head

[proven badger]

hell ya

[faint bay]

haha thanks

suomi is alright from both sides

not surprised

it was really an allarounder

still is

there is a reason soviets copied that for their ppsh to shoot tokarev rounds

even the germans liked that

[proven badger]

The MP5 genuinely seems to be the best smg of all time

After the minimal research I've done lol

[faint bay]

I mean

it is the most comfiest full auto since Suomi 31

[proven badger]

I shot one super safe and the recoil was incredibly manageable. Would be so easy to control with a small amount of practice

[faint bay]

I've heard similar experiences with p90 FRT

which is quite.... odd

[proven badger]

The sp5 was not jumpy at all, it was just a bit of vertical recoil muzzle climb

I'd be curious about the P90

[faint bay]

how is the fire rate approximately?

[proven badger]

Just based on the ergonomics of the gun

[faint bay]

what I heard from the guy and saw the vid I'd say it's like 700 rpm. It's like tamed p90

[proven badger]

I think most of the super safeties on the market for the SP5 push it to 1000+ rounds per minute

so faster than a real full auto mp5

[faint bay]

it's really hard to believe it is completely legal there

[proven badger]

Everyone has them lmao

[proven badger]

We have criminals here with real full auto so might as well be

[faint bay]

our law is not so easy to go around. We have this "mimicking the full auto" is banned

so there goes all sorts of frts and "super safeties"

[proven badger]

The only thing gun laws do in the US is prevent law abiding citizens from having things

But you guys don't have that problem in Finland

We are definitely living through a golden age for 2a rights here in the U.S. (depending on what state someone lives in)

That’s cool af

It’s the import laws here that prevent those things

I think you being in Europe, you have more access to cool military guns

America is an island for those types of things

[faint bay]

Yeah, it’s kind of counterintuitive, if you know what I mean. There’s a tiny market for full autos, but it’s mostly for collectors. Still, it’s not impossible to become a collector

you know?

of course if you are a collector they don't permit the licences for full autos first. You have to gather some sort of collection of "safer" guns first and then proceed

[faint bay]

yea and there are a numerous of reasons. Access to full autos is rare because of import laws

I mean there are some pre ban weapons sold there but they cost like 50-100 grands

meanwhile collectors here can get them for like... 1 grand?

I don't know your laws as well as you do

[minor grove]

Big inspiration from the game

[faint bay]

your gun?

[minor grove]

ye

[faint bay]

as an AK shooter myself I would move that handstop further

depending on how long your arms are

[minor grove]

👌 i usually run my handstops further but for aks i like it closer

[faint bay]

okay that's your preference. I myself like to grab is as far as my arms reach for the recoil control

but in cqb I'd just grab the mag

[minor grove]

💯

I’m a big ar15 shooter.

[faint bay]

fair

I like to have mine at that length.

16"

[minor grove]

very soft shooting

I like the longer barrels but recently have fallen into the short barrels

[faint bay]

it's really a question of preference

[minor grove]

just waiting for the ATF to release my suppressors from jail

[faint bay]

AR has so little recoil (imo, im used to x39) so it's really not that crucial

whatever suits you

[minor grove]

yeah the recoil on ARs is just non existent with proper stance and recoil management

but also on Ak's, especially the Aks chambered in 5.45 and 5.56

[faint bay]

my friend has a nice Schmeisser 9mm with that fancy hydraulic recoil buffer so I have mainly shot that lately

it mimicks quite well .223 rem

[minor grove]

i need a 9mm ar, 9mm is so cheap compared to 5.56 and 300 blackout

[faint bay]

there is it for comparison with his newly acquired .223 on the left

[minor grove]

very clean setups

i like it

[faint bay]

that's the best pcc I've ever seen

it takes glock mags

(on the right)

[minor grove]

🔥

[faint bay]

we have mainly shot 30 round big stick glock mags

but it takes also regular glock 17 mags ofc

that's a dream

[minor grove]

i feel like it needs the 30 round big sticks

[faint bay]

they are dreamy but a bit pita to load full because of the spring but also it has made like 0 faults in one year

[minor grove]

glock reliability 💯

[faint bay]

of course the spring is far more stiff than regular glock mag but it is just physics

yeah Schmeisser is also a german brand so they just happened to make a perfect pcc

also my gen 5 glock 17 takes those big sticks

[minor grove]

german engineering is amazing almost all the time

[faint bay]

yeah pity that they are not imported to US for you guys

at least yet

[minor grove]

😔

one day hopefully

[faint bay]

but once you get them I recommend

its the best pcc there is. hands down

the only con with a schmeisser AR is that they are strictly .223

so forget 5.56 with schmeisser

(the left one)

[minor grove]

meh 223 is close enough to 556

[faint bay]

it is but it is chambered in .223 so I would not load it with 5.56

[minor grove]

def dont lol

[faint bay]

unlike my Ruger MPR that takes everything

its 5.56

[minor grove]

ruger 👌

[faint bay]

0 faults in 3 years!

the only fault I've seen with it was with hera full size 10 rounders

[minor grove]

🔥

[faint bay]

it traveled too far

the plastic is like butter

it just physically blocked the receiver

[minor grove]

yeah I've only had like 1 fault with my weapons and its just been ammo related. I shoot a lot of very cheap ammo

stopped shooting cheap ammo and decided to just spend the little more money to get reliable ammo

[faint bay]

yea but those particular mags... they just traveled too high if you know what I mean. Went past all the AR preventions

[minor grove]

ahhhh i see

[faint bay]

yea and when we took a look at the mags there were like slices of plastic gone

[minor grove]

damn 💀

[faint bay]

its just bad quality mags

pmags ftw

[minor grove]

yeah I always just go with PMAGs (Magpul)

[faint bay]

yea accept no substitutes

[minor grove]

I recently acquired a 100 round magazine from Betamag lol

just a joke of a magazine

[faint bay]

betamags are known for their bad quality

dont blame the rifle

[minor grove]

I actually haven't had any issues with it but its just more of a show piece

[thorny flame]

are we just doing non matching colors as a bit

[faint bay]

finns like to take a mag support so mags that go too deep are a no no

[minor grove]

yeah pretty much lol

[faint bay]

but this

their quality has always been top notch

[minor grove]

💯

[faint bay]

and you get them for cheap

for like coins

whereas I have had to pay $40 for pmags per each

the only better mag I know is the SAKO RK AK mag

conscripts use their springs to cook sausages

[minor grove]

wow 40$ I paid 9$ per mag

[minor grove]

😂

[faint bay]

not even kidding

those are RK mag springs

[minor grove]

Im going to have to try that one day

[faint bay]

people have used those as hammers

[minor grove]

im just going to take the spring from this mag I have laying around and try out the ak magazine spring sausage cooking method

[faint bay]

oh we have had steel mags aswell but those plastic mags issued are foolproof

[minor grove]

foolproof? how

[faint bay]

you can drive over them with a car

or use them as a hammer

and eject the spring and use it for bbq

[minor grove]

ooooh, yeah polymer has high crush resistance

[faint bay]

at least that plastic

ok maybe a car was a bit exaggerated but those issued mags always look like they have seen some wars

and they literally have

war practices

[minor grove]

pmags are the same

[faint bay]

but people really use them for something they are not intended to be used to

[minor grove]

used by the marine corp and are always abused and are very difficult to break

[faint bay]

yea pmags are pmuch the same quality

meanwhile STANAGS were meant to be single use

[proven badger]

I'm curious to see what the FRT and Super Safety access has done to the full auto market

it has to have taken a big hit

[faint bay]

probably 😄

but that market was not that big

at least I think so

but let's face it who buys legit full autos in the states?

they want original stuff typically?

people who have like 50-200 grands to spend on guns

[timid belfry]

what brace is this?

[faint bay]

oh you are interested

[proven badger]

https://safetyharborfirearms.com/kes-mp5-pattern/

It’s this with whatever tailhook you want

I didn’t even know tail hooks were really a thing until I saw people’s sp5 builds. In my opinion, the tailhook is the best looking option for a brace

[proven badger]

Idk, there’s a lot of rich guys with money to throw around here in the U.S.

I never realized how many rich people are in this country until I started my current job lmao.

[faint bay]

true but do you think that those gadgets will affect the real market

[proven badger]

I’ve worked with plenty of people who are capable of and are willing to spend $50k on a stupid toy

[faint bay]

honestly, I don't know

[proven badger]

At this point I feel like any imported gun is an investment

One stroke of a pen, and it could be gone from the American consumer market forever

[faint bay]

yup

[wooden frigate]

I cannot see

[round sentinel]

It hasn’t

[placid basin]

Overpriced American made optic gang 🔥🔥

[blazing temple]

Casually flexing one of the better lego sets of the last few years

[placid basin]

one of my proudest lol

2nd would be the concorde i built a while back

[tired aurora]

its not even that overpriced (comming from an europoor where even a romeo 5 is like 200Eur)

[wooden frigate]

It’s alright

[wooden frigate]

Not for me though my eyesight is horrible, it looks like in the picture, when I’m not wearing contacts or prescription lenses

I might just be softlocked to etched reticles

[placid basin]

might sound stupid but are you sure you're focusing your eyes on the target and not the reticle/red dot itself?

[wooden frigate]

Not stupid, yeah I’m sure. I just got the tism, brutal astigmatism

[placid basin]

had to make sure since new eotech owners often complain about blurry/fuzzy reticles lol

what a shame tho

eotechs are really nice, sucks you cant use it

[wooden frigate]

No I’m aware they are naturally fuzzy

[wooden frigate]

Woah there, it still looks nice if I can get some good contacts lol

[placid basin]

sell it to me :D

[wooden frigate]

But that’s just not something I necessarily want to rely on

Mmm maybe

[round sentinel]

That’s super peak too

[golden marlin]

You have it too bright

[wooden frigate]

Maybe, but really my phone camera just hates illuminated reticles

Here is another such example

The dot is not that big lol

[tired aurora]

you gotta manually adjust focus

[wooden frigate]

That does make sense

[tired aurora]

With Manual focus is shows up fine.

And well under magnifier it looks even better

(on a side not I hate how every single game gets Eotechs under magnifier wrong)

[ocean pike]

Eokek

[tired aurora]

yes... got a deal on it too

1000eur for eokek + g33 magnifier

[ivory violet]

I would love to have eokek but i have astigmatism as well 🫩🫩

[proven badger]

It's probably just rich dudes circle jerking over the fact that they have the real thing

[golden marlin]

You would be surprised how many regular guys have machine guns

My boss used to have a bunch then he got a divorce

Plenty of other guys he knew had them cause they were fairly common cause of the really cheap models you could get

[ocean pike]

Mac’s are still fairly cheap

[golden marlin]

Same for stens

And uzis

[wheat oasis]

Do they make tan mags?

[ocean pike]

@lost drum where nods

[carmine tide]

Seb works for IV8888 confirmed

[wheat oasis]

My arrakus my dune

[golden marlin]

LMAO

[tired aurora]

same and its better than a red dot for that (tho mine is mild)

also just trow a magnifier behind it and it clears it out.

[lost drum]

silence chud

[true mist]

optics in general are pretty impossible for games to replicate correctly

red dot housings blocking vision, the way scopes have to be essentially cameras instead of a truly magnified view

[tired aurora]

yes and no there are plently of optics that get represented well... its just eotechs specifically that i have not seen a games replicate well. Even GZW and Tarkov that have some of the best optics in gaming fail with eotech + magnifier.

[true mist]

ya im not saying they cant get close or that its immersion breaking necessarily

just the fact that almost every game uses PIP scopes and FPS characters are all cyclopes

[soft jay]

Imagine this you need to render 2 different images

One non magnified and magnified

Now consider is it worth the strain it would put on the hardware to render that

[tired aurora]

i mean ye most magnified optics are pip

[echo cairn]

@lost drum nods yet?

[round sentinel]

PIP with a little chromatic aberration and parallax, it’s damn near perfect. Granted they don’t make every optic 1:1, it’s just a universal setting but still

Some games have gotten it right

[lost drum]

Take it up with the mailman not me

[echo cairn]

It's a yes or no question

[tired aurora]

some get really close but way too many have the center reticle waay too big on many scopes/dots

[round sentinel]

Oh yeah for sure

[lost drum]

no

[ivory violet]

Just bought an aimpoint magnifier for da t2, hopefully it gets better but prolly not

[tired aurora]

Depends on how bad it is. If you have a really bad case of it then you're stuck with prism optics and lpvo/scopes

For me personally an eokek isn't that bad on its own and it clears up very under magnifier

[ivory violet]

The holosun magnifier helped but i didnt like how it looked so i swapped it with t2

[thorny flame]

have you been to an eye doctor?

[ivory violet]

Not recently, got deployed back to back so havent really got the time to go

[thorny flame]

might be correctable

[ivory violet]

I hope so, getting tired of wearing glasses

[proven hearth]

Be proud of him, he actually pulled the trigger

[true mist]

you never know when the lifeguard will have an MG42

[red salmon]

Atlantic is selling mg42 and 34 barrels

[scenic jetty]

someone got nods

[proven hearth]

Yur, he got wp binos

[ocean pike]

allegedly

[proven hearth]

[scenic jetty]

oh nice

ill just stick with my pvs-14

[proven hearth]

Same

Bob did you see my latest purchase?

[scenic jetty]

Nah what did you get

[proven hearth]

2025, 1 mile on the clock

[scenic jetty]

Oh shit nice

Got a truck not new but it’s a 2006 Toyota tundra

[proven hearth]

Very nice

When did you snag that

[true mist]

fuck yeah dude

i love my 06 tundra

[scenic jetty]

Yea there great

[round sentinel]

Absolute cinema

[echo cairn]

You have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever

[scenic jetty]

In a good way ?

[round sentinel]

Yeah

[scenic jetty]

Hell yea

[soft jay]

Nah its too nice of a bike

He needs something that will fit draco with milled receiver

[tribal vault]

did you try a green dot?

[median osprey]

Form 4 SBR got approved in 4 days.

KS-1 is now home. 😎

[placid basin]

Day 3 for my Rhodie 6K :/

[median osprey]

I still need to get a MCQ-2.

Already picked up the suppressor shroud to go with it.

Biggest pain in the ass is finding a skyscraper.

For some reason KAC discontinued the skyscraper mount, but they’re starting to release their MG riser.

[echo cairn]

Week 3 for my form 1

[carmine tide]

Jesus fucking christ how many times do I have to tell this European monkey that psa wont accept a non US bank

[placid basin]

Just got my form 1 back for my Spear LT, took 2 months

waiting another 2 for my HK 🫠

[scenic jetty]

lol

[carmine tide]

Its always eastern europeans man

"Can I mail you some cash" how about i mail you back to poland

[lunar marsh]

You should accept the cash

[carmine tide]

Tempting

But the calls are recorded

And im pretty sure all those europeans are reselling the shit in ukraine

[tired aurora]

xD

[hushed salmon]

Legendary

[ivory violet]

Yuppers, i have a holosun 510c green

[faint bay]

510c is nice

[scenic jetty]

Love that thing

[scenic jetty]

Lmao I’d like to hear that call

[echo cairn]

Rooftop for the win as usual

[placid basin]

Just got a new Eotech for the spear

That shit is not tan, it’s more bordering on silver/metallic

[scenic jetty]

how much was it for 2 slings and the grip

[echo cairn]

$120 and some change

[carmine tide]

Bruh rooftop hates me all I ever get is shrimp

[echo cairn]

Sucks to suck

[scenic jetty]

not bad

[unique fjord]

Nice 2025 watermark

[round sentinel]

Who the fuck buys a XD in 2026 besides the oblock residents

[unique fjord]

I think you’re looking for this picture

[unique fjord]

And they did it again

[wooden frigate]

2nd tower type shit

[unique fjord]

Your majesty there’s been a third bus type shit

[lone moss]

GRIP ZONE

[trim solar]

Yea

[jaunty crane]

for when I can actually buy my pistol optic
I would like to know if anyone here with the RMR HD hates cleaning the glass
likee
is it annoying to get a cloth in there? as that is kinda an issue with open emitters

[thorny flame]

get a lenspen

and one of those insane chinese blowers

[wooden frigate]

Dot gets grimy, gets the finger wipe

[proven badger]

based people

[proven hearth]

@round sentinel she looks good parked in front of my house

[unique fjord]

bright orange for over here plz steal me

[proven hearth]

Good luck.

[soft jay]

Bright orange cause KTM wants their bikes to be seen from afar

[ionic ice]

nice

[crisp sleet]

.357 sig

[unique fjord]

Why we posting ghetto type shit

[crisp sleet]

What's wrong with the arp?

[true mist]

lmfao

[unique fjord]

See now that’s not ghetto type shit

[soft jay]

That's trailer house type shit

[wheat oasis]

How about a pallet cleanser

[golden marlin]

You need the lam on it

[echo cairn]

There's always a cheap copy to a masterpiece

[wheat oasis]

There is a lam

[wheat oasis]

🫶

[golden marlin]

nah

you need the lam

THEE LAM

[wheat oasis]

Find me a peq6

[golden marlin]

OK FAIR

lmao

[wheat oasis]

That’s what I thought

[golden marlin]

the most similar vibe ive seen is someone using a klesh

cause its just fucking large

[wheat oasis]

Yeah welp I still want to be able to cc it

[golden marlin]

rip

[lone moss]

What in the god damn

[lone moss]

Oh hey I got one of those

[hushed salmon]

Love this thing

I also love to work on my guns on plush carpet

[candid current]

My Noveske Spr. Being in Europe and on a hunting license i unfortunately had to get a 18" barrel version

[candid current]

Does anyone here wanna see what kind of stuff we can own here? i feel like lots of americans dont think we own any guns

[tired aurora]

Hey I'm europoor too but on a sports shooting license soo both my "rifles" are SBR/NFA under US laws

Also that's cursed HK ral8000 pmags

[proven badger]

Are you allowed to keep it in your home?

[candid current]

depends on country but here in Sweden yes

[candid current]

ah ye i need a rifle club for short rifles so i got mainly longbois and handguns

[proven badger]

Ayy, based

[tired aurora]

get in one

[proven badger]

I was gonna say, if you can’t take it home you don’t own it lmao

[candid current]

Good enough?

[tired aurora]

does the cat need a permit too?

[edgy kestrel]

I’m happy I live in America where I can keep my guns at my home

[tired aurora]

jokes aside the furball is cute

[candid current]

ye i want a 11.5 Ar15 and some kind of short PCC or PDW but we will se. starting a club from scrash atm so need to get so much paper work done

[tired aurora]

what are the 2 ones on the right? one looks like a 308 and the other a pcc 9mm? but i can't tell what kind

[candid current]

currently got a ar10 coming "soon" been waiting for 10months

[tired aurora]

yikes

[tired aurora]

ye i got pistol first due to req then my 2nd one was the 11'' HK ngl it was an amazing deal

[candid current]

Its a modified Browning bar match. It was one of the only rifles with factory 20round mags we could get for a while.

Selling it probably when i get my ar10 for moose

[tired aurora]

that is giga cursed ngl

[candid current]

And its a modified ruger pcc te with a suppresor that goes over the long barrel to the silver ring. Not really happy with the suppresor tho.

[tired aurora]

doesn't supress enough?

[candid current]

Ugly duckling look alright with all the extra parts imo

[candid current]

Barley anything imo even tho it has baffels all the way back.

[fringe prawn]

sure although im not the type that thinks that ive had plenty of Euro gun buddies over the years

[candid current]

18" barrel pcc tho so maybe it its to long to work

[tired aurora]

with 147s? or 124s? cuz my ''MP5SD'' is as quiet as a supressed 22.lr even with 124s xD

[fringe prawn]

they can too for the most part

[candid current]

tried some 147 but mainly 124. it looks alright tho so no need to buy more since i mainly shoot my other rifles

[tired aurora]

some restricted license holders have to have it locked up at a certified range but for the most part any ''real'' license you can keep at home

[fringe prawn]

a lot the EU has objectively more chill gun laws than a deep blue state in the US with some caveats

[proven badger]

Hell ya, that’s a nice spread you have