irl-weapons

[misty cove]

Except therrs Kubs and s300

So youre just fuckdf

[blazing temple]

Papuga that's a lot of words to say "skill issue"

[golden marlin]

You can still set the game to older style controls

Since they knew people would want that for delta

[misty cove]

nuh uh

[round sentinel]

You don’t fly a B52 in contested airspace at all tbf

Average strategic bomber moment

Wait they added the fucking 52H?

What the fuck

That’s comedic that they put the ‘modern’ package

Bro could literally mount fucking 24 cruise missiles

No wait it’s less Forgor. 20

It’s 6 external per wing

Ok I’m gonna be real here

It’s fuckin A2A

That’s the reality of aircraft

If anything warthunder is wayyyyyyyy more lenient than real air combat. Missiles are that cracked

[misty cove]

okay bro

but they are saclos guided

and the ai has literal aimbot

its not even because war thunder is arcadey theyre literaly just coded like that

🥀

[round sentinel]

So they are still more lenient than the real thing

[soft jay]

Warthunder fans when they realise game isn't realistic because it would be completely unplayable

[misty cove]

oh i know

i just wish the ai didnt track thru terain

[soft jay]

It's like with people who want realistic warfare games

[misty cove]

arma

:D

[soft jay]

Even Arma is lenient when it comes to actual grunt simulation

[modest hatch]

Arma you can tune tho

[blazing temple]

The only thing wrong with it at this point is roland missiles bugging out and your client thinking they hit a tree so it stops rendering them, so you can't see the smoke trail and know you are being engaged

Other than that this is the most fun I've had playing war thunder in years

[round sentinel]

Fucking real

Even DCS falls victim to that

Tho that’s way more on the realistic side

[timid belfry]

@golden marlin how hard is it to tighten mosin barrel bands

[golden marlin]

Just accurize it at that point

Get like a mosin accurizing kit

It should come with a piece of canvas cloth

[timid belfry]

No I found a super clean mosin, 1924, for a good price, but the bands are loose

[golden marlin]

Accurizing kit

It's historically accurate

[golden marlin]

And doesn't require any Major permanent changes

And when I say that the most you have to do is sand the inside

[golden marlin]

Lmao fucking pliers

Bend it back to shape

[lofty osprey]

harbor freight early access sale ends today....$36 streamlight tlr1 clones

justasgood

[golden marlin]

I have one

It gets hotter than a mother fucker

Not in a long period

But in a very short period

Not worth

[golden marlin]

Gross

[lofty osprey]

I won’t tolerate slanderous lies about harbor freight

[golden marlin]

I have a older model

[lofty osprey]

Gotta buy 4 if you want the no overheat models

[golden marlin]

Stays on my helmet

[ocean pike]

Damn says 59.99 for me

[lofty osprey]

insider track pricing

[ocean pike]

Ah

[lofty osprey]

if you wait until tomorrow you don't have to pay the $30 membership

[soft jay]

Lemme guess you bought it because you have seen review made by brass

[lofty osprey]

nope, I bought em back before they got sued, when they were $25

also bought em off ebay for a bit

don't need a youtuber to tell me what to buy, they are all shills anyway right?

[lofty osprey]

great light for fun guns....I don't put them on my important guns

[timid belfry]

That’s what I was thinking but didn’t want to get ahead of myself lmao

[lunar marsh]

You can bend anything into your desired shape with a big enough hammer

[golden marlin]

But do recommend accurizing

It's just shimming the stock and wrapping the barrel

Did that for my pu

[proven hearth]

Dremel

[true mist]

i have a buddy who is the biggest harbor freight shill i know, hes put this thing on every stupid gun hes bought and absolutely loves them

random 22s- harbor freight light, chinese shotgun- harbor freight light, the stupid 300blk bullpup AR he's building- you already know

everything he owns gets that light except for his one AR he built sober that he actually wants to work

[true mist]

looking to change my zpap setup a little, any opinions on whether i should get an mlok lower with a handstop or if i should just get a new hogue handguard lower (and leave it bare)

for context this is what it looks like now, which has been kinda fun, but its way too wide to use comfortably without a foregrip, and the tapeswitch location is prone to white light NDs

so im moving to a barrel mount for the light and a regular tailcap (most likely converting to momentary only)

[proven hearth]

Get a jmac handguard, and upgrade from that streamlight

Just do yourself the favor and get an arisaka/malkoff prebuilt

[blazing temple]

Jmac

How do we not have some form of :ascended: in herr

[silk rapids]

What kind of lights are you guys running

Modlite, cloud defensive, surefire?

[round sentinel]

surefire mainly

[blazing temple]

Surefire but I think most people would say better arisaka/modlight/cd for rifle

All my handguns are surefire

[round sentinel]

I have a twin zbolt setup for a rifle, and the modlite/ zbolt LED set for a pistol

[silk rapids]

Gotcha

[round sentinel]

side grades tbh

id argue the Surefire is a bit more durable, but they are all p comparable

[proven hearth]

Modlite, malkoff, and surefire is what i tend to go to.

Very big fan of malkoff though honestly

[silk rapids]

I’m using a mixed bag, mostly surefires for rifle and pistols, at least 2 stream lights for pistol and 2 for rifles, a modlite and a cloud defensive rein

[proven hearth]

Just bought another malkoff head this morning

[blazing temple]

Ha he said head

[proven hearth]

Tryna give me some vesp?

[blazing temple]

No

[round sentinel]

something you havent gotten in years

[silk rapids]

Damn lights are so expensive when ur buying them on your own lol

[round sentinel]

[blazing temple]

I have just been awake for 24 hours

And I am waiting on my goddamn ice cream on my drive home

[round sentinel]

wait

[blazing temple]

Years?

[round sentinel]

what kind

[blazing temple]

Vanilla with m&ms blended in I'm being a basic bitch rn

[proven hearth]

Cookie dough or vanilla, or bust

[blazing temple]

I bought a dueling tree

Buddy got a hipoint

I almost bought a usp

[proven hearth]

Gya, the hipoint? He's ballin out

Have yall seen hipoints new pistol theyre supposedly going to release?

[blazing temple]

We almost bought a .22lr g36 but the hipoint was significantly more amusement per dollar

[unique fjord]

I have a m70 hogue set if you want Ditched that and a UTG for a SLR lower/upper

[proven hearth]

I cant seem to find it nevermind

[slate iron]

final build for my rifle had to figure something out to keep the flashlight buttons in place thank god i am a girl dad and have extra small hair ties lol

[proven hearth]

There's so much wrong here

[round sentinel]

deffy bait

[golden marlin]

Bro really just slapped everything he saw on Amazon and went yeah I built that shit

[proven hearth]

Unfortunately with how the average gun owner is im afraid it might be real

[slate iron]

its meant for mainly hunting so nothing too much on there got a magnification setup for further out had to put it further up so charging handle can be grabbed with ease the wire isnt hanging anymore i did get that mounted and as for the bipod foregrip it was cheap and has the two features i needed so for a budget build it works

i can take it off wall mount to get a better picture if you like

[lunar marsh]

Please no more exposure to it lol

[proven badger]

I just threw up

I tried to hold it in but noticed the airsoft optic setup

[proven hearth]

The bridged airsoft optic no less

[round sentinel]

[proven hearth]

Just throw the whole rifle in the trash and start over

[slate iron]

Hey it holds up and like I said budget build we are working with what I got for now

[golden marlin]

Dude like it's fine if it's for hunting it's still poorly set up

[proven hearth]

The feyachi light and $30 magnifier is the icing on the cake

[slate iron]

Understandable even I know it’s not optimal but it does the job I ask of it

[round sentinel]

the job in question: sitting on the wall and looking stupid

[proven hearth]

I dont think you even understand how to properly set up a rifle if this is an indication of you "building"

[slate iron]

I plan on getting better stuff on it later on but this is rough outline and no job in question is to hit a deer within 100 yards accurately

[round sentinel]

that optic wont do that

[slate iron]

It already hits mark at 90

[round sentinel]

hell it might not even last 50 rounds

kek

[slate iron]

Already but 100 through and it’s lasting just fine

[round sentinel]

doubtful

[slate iron]

Doubt it all you want no reason to lie if it hadn’t I would have taken it off already

[proven hearth]

Upgrade the optic to something decent a $150 holosun will work, next time actually mount it on the upper, not the handguard. Don't cheap out a weapon light, dont rely on garbage grip pods for stable shooting, ditch the stock for something thats not prone to hanging up, get a suppressor. Hell there's so much wrong i can't even list it all

[round sentinel]

'no reason to lie'
-every validation seeking person in the gun community lying about anything and everything

[golden marlin]

It's hard to believe since it's a super cheap Amazon optic combined with you mounting it on the handguard which that handguard won't hold zero

Like heard it a million times

[round sentinel]

heard that one from like 50 people in this chat alone over years

[slate iron]

The stock is what came with it the only thing I have added was sight, light, and foregrip

[proven badger]

8-12 moa depending on the humidity and temperature that day

[proven hearth]

You've been given sound advice. Take it or dont idrc you'll stop talking here in the next week and I'll forget you ever existed

[slate iron]

suppressors are next to impossible to get where I’m at so that’s a no go but the rest of advice will be heeded when able just not possible right now but shoot me message with better stuff to put on it and I’ll grab what I can when I can and I’ll come back with updates

[golden marlin]

That's not what he means by sound advice

[scenic jetty]

get rid of the grip pod light thats on it and current optics

throw a streamlight and a holosun dot

[golden marlin]

Suppressors whatever but like you need a better optic you need to actually mount it on the receiver, not the handguard

[scenic jetty]

this

[golden marlin]

Like those gripods

Break all the time

[proven hearth]

Pass on the streamlight imo. Had too many have flickering issues personally

Others people milage has varied from mine though

[scenic jetty]

never heard that problem before but yea there is other options out there

[slate iron]

Ok what about an optic with some magnification like 1-4x cause like I said mainly for hunting

[proven hearth]

I had 4, all of them flickered drastically when firing. Just not a fan after my own personal experience with them

[scenic jetty]

that honestly sucks

[golden marlin]

The cheapest optic that I generally recommend for a 3x is a primary arms 3x prism

[proven hearth]

Look at a pa nova acss 1-6 if you dont want to spend alot

[golden marlin]

They are actually very beefy optics

The 3x

[proven hearth]

Or that ye

[golden marlin]

And they're like 200 bucks

[slate iron]

Ok I’ll look

[proven badger]

Get an lpvo from primary arms

[golden marlin]

I've had mine for years. I throw it around all the time

[scenic jetty]

those prisms are nice hell the 5x is pretty nice as well

[proven hearth]

I was thinking nova for the 1-6 capabilities for hunting but a 3x would work

[proven badger]

I have a nova and it would definitely be fine for hunting

[proven hearth]

I have one aswell. Pretty nice optic for $300

[scenic jetty]

my main rifle i just went with an acog for that

[proven hearth]

My main rifle has an exps, but it's also a night vision set up

[golden marlin]

Both of my mains have eotech

Just 1 is a Vudu 3-9

I may swap that to the acr now

[slate iron]

Ok so cause I’m a broke bish what about monstrum

[golden marlin]

No

No

They are very very cheaply made and it's very obvious

The one that a buddy of mine had for his first build. That thing barely holds zero

He swapped that out now for a vortex

[proven hearth]

If you cant afford a PA prism for $200. Save up

Same with the nova.

Cant afford $300?

Save.

[slate iron]

Is that the PA 1-6

[proven hearth]

That's the classic. Wouldnt.

Just go to primary arms actual site and look.

Plenty of youtubers have an affiliate link that will save you money and should come with a free 30mm mount.

[golden marlin]

Please go to their website

At least if you go to their website you can at least use discount codes

[slate iron]

What about the gen 3 slx 3x32mm

It’s a prism

[scenic jetty]

those are pretty cool just not my thing

[golden marlin]

Personally the optic I have on my ak

Get that one

If you're trying to ball on a budget

It's 3x

So it's got decent enough magnification

To suit your needs

And you can put a red dot on top of it if you need to

And it's like 200 bucks

With a mount

[scenic jetty]

thats pretty much how i have my g17 but i have a rmr instead and no extension on it

also the slide release i still have the factory one

[proven hearth]

Im not a giant fan of those slide releases tbh

Tried one, wasnt my thing

[scenic jetty]

but i did get the trigger polished and a lighter trigger bar

shoots really nice now

[proven hearth]

I have an apex in my 49. It's aight

Came with the gun when i bought it so, neither really here nor there for me. Glock trigger is glock trigger

[scenic jetty]

true

[slate iron]

Anyone know what the most common tcpi is on an ar

And I need a recommendation for a pistol light for my smith and Wesson m&p .45 it’s the 1st gen I can send a picture of it it’s 100% stock right now

[lunar marsh]

This is how to properly wall hang. Bio locked

[proven hearth]

Me with a 1022 hung up just on some shitty 3d printed hangers

[silk rapids]

Updated spread

I need another SF can lol

[lunar marsh]

Been meaning to replace this with the A300 and another bio lock

[silk rapids]

@lunar marsh we have a 3 day shoot at the usual spot tomorrow

[proven hearth]

A300 is fun. I still dont think ive ever taken a pic of mine

[silk rapids]

Gonna be camping out there

[proven hearth]

I havent taken a picture of anything for a hot minute now actually

[lunar marsh]

I’ll be moving back to Sun/Mon off after this weekend is over. 2 days of days followed by 2 days of nights starting tomorrow to cover a shift

[silk rapids]

ooohhhh

finally a weekend day off

[lunar marsh]

Absolutely love it

[proven hearth]

Ye, theyre good shotguns

[lunar marsh]

It was on sale for 900 when I picked it up. Couldn’t justify the additional 900-1000 for the 1301

[silk rapids]

lol the guys in fed way are literally trying to get rid of theirs

they have too much A300's in stock

[lunar marsh]

You’re out of control sir

[silk rapids]

mid life crisis mode

[slate iron]

ok so couple questions which is more durable in your opinion mlok or rail mounted grips and thoughts on grip and bipod setups like an angled fore grip in normal spot then a bipod on end

[lunar marsh]

lol you’re not old enough for that yet

[silk rapids]

getting it out of the way early

hahahah

[lunar marsh]

Well played

[slate iron]

and need some stock suggestions

preferably geared towards a left handed shooter

[proven hearth]

Mlok grips will sit cleaner on the rail. Honestly doubt you'll get enough use out of a bipod. And b5 sopmod, Bravo, magpul acs-l, basically anything other than the mft.

[silk rapids]

the new magpul stock is decent

[proven hearth]

When it comes to magpul i like the acs-l alot. More storage is always nice

[slate iron]

what about the magpul afg-2 for fore grip

[proven hearth]

I dont personally like angled grips. If its comfortable for you though then sure.

[silk rapids]

ever tried a handstop?

[proven hearth]

I like doing a split grip, and then chop off whatever material i dont need.

[silk rapids]

im a big emissary handstop guy, i have it on alot of my rifles

[slate iron]

no i haven't

[proven hearth]

I have yet to try the emissary grip

I love their x300 switches though

So fucking nice

[slate iron]

ok what about the magpul dt carbine stock

[silk rapids]

im a big fan of their handstops, simple and i get em for 25-30 bucks a piece

at my lgs

[proven hearth]

Speaking of wml's actually just got my new modlite pl350 in. First impressions are really nice, gonna go this weekend and get some time behind it

[silk rapids]

plus it looks good on alot of mlok handguards

[lunar marsh]

Whatever you do remove the grip-pod and destroy it violently

[silk rapids]

all it was good for is the rifle qual

and even then the new qual doesnt have you on the prone for long

most of it is on a barricade now

[lunar marsh]

Not even that. We destroyed all of ours during a JRTC rotation pre OIF certification

[slate iron]

will do ill get my new one in and that will be melted in fire

[silk rapids]

they are flimsy as shit

[slate iron]

ok so what about the mvg vert grip from magpul

[lunar marsh]

The paint is wearing in good finally after a couple thousand rounds. Doesn’t look too fresh and cartoonish now

[silk rapids]

how heavy is that can?

[slate iron]

and what about a good flashlight for mounting or is my cheap one ok

[lunar marsh]

Like 24oz. Baffles don’t start till about midway. Fairly hollow portion that just encapsulates the barrel

[silk rapids]

i thought about switching my long boi can to one of my short barreled guns, but it still feels heavy

[lunar marsh]

The entire rifle as pictured is exactly 10*

It’s lighter than any of my service rifles

[proven hearth]

Go to arisaka and look at their prebuilts for 180, you'll need a mount too. they also take sezzle so you can break up payments if you cant afford it outright

[scenic jetty]

these are really nice, ended up going with an 870 though

[lunar marsh]

Good gun. I had an old wooden 870 issued my first couple years as a patrol officer before we went all ARs

[slate iron]

jesus just 4 attachments is more than the gun itself

[scenic jetty]

yea ar is alot better but having a shotgun is really nice

[slate iron]

light, stock, fore grip, and optic

total of 886.88 for those 4 things

[lunar marsh]

Welcome to the world of quality equipment

This thing is pretty barebones and has like $3800 into it #irl-weapons message

[slate iron]

how much did you pay for it as barebones

[lunar marsh]

The stock rifle was $1200

[slate iron]

see thats double what i payed my rifle was a cheap starter since its my first

didnt want anything too grand for first one

went really cheap for first pistol too it was a hi point 40 cal

[lunar marsh]

Nothing wrong with that but recommend saving up for quality accessories that will hold up and can be transferred to a higher quality rifle down the line

[slate iron]

understandable the lights im looking at is 474

im looking at the 3x that yall recommended and getting mlok vertical and the magpul carbine stock and those 3 is 412

[lunar marsh]

The light on my A300 has lasted me the last 12 years and been on several builds including about 8 years on my patrol rifle. Survived several good vehicle collisions lol

[slate iron]

i got the multimode one that has ir and regular illumination

well im getting havent gotten it yet gotta save up for a bit first

[lunar marsh]

I wouldn’t worry about spending the extra on the IR version unless you plan to drop the thousands on NODs in the future

[slate iron]

my cousin gave me his old monocular when he upgraded it was a few hundred when he got it so i have something for that already just not as good as i want

[proven hearth]

Start saving. This is the type of shit you'd rather buy once and cry once rather than spending all sorts of money on other cheap alternatives that will inevitably fail

[round sentinel]

Don’t make me feel bad for how much a couple of my projects have in them 😭

[lunar marsh]

lol I’m thankful I only had to put 3800 into that one. It’s the goddamn 50 year old parts of it. Thankfully I went went the repro dive light for 350. The last original I know of cost 800 lol

No way I could consciously pay that for a 40 year old flashlight

I think my dumbest money build is probably this

[silk rapids]

it looks awesome tho

[scenic jetty]

my main sqeeze i put some money into

[lofty osprey]

1301 goood. $1400 price matched at scheels a year ago

[round sentinel]

Those pistols have nothing to do with BO2 😭

[balmy spindle]

peak

[lone moss]

Literally such a random photo

[round sentinel]

Fr

[echo cairn]

Not the hubba bubba Larue hat

[inland fox]

It turns out that if you give the cat figurine to the cultists, they bring a green card.

[blazing temple]

[round sentinel]

Nobody cares about tarkshit. Post your guns

[lone moss]

This

[misty cove]

iots bot

[round sentinel]

You are a bot

[blazing temple]

[misty cove]

vorp?

[soft jay]

AI generated images of firearms to push on young minds 2A propaganda

[jaunty crane]

I finally got my asvab scores back
my AFQT score kinda disappoints me but I mean
what do you guys think

[round sentinel]

I sentence you to transportation

[lunar marsh]

I don’t know what any of this means lol. I just remember the one that counted was the GT score…which I don’t see there

[round sentinel]

The AFQT is the ‘overall’ score

The rest are the individuals which will be needed for specific jobs

I barely remember them either

[lofty osprey]

Everyone needs a suppressed 22.

[lofty osprey]

You like the sandmanx? I have the Lazarus but went with ODB for now. Thinking about getting the sandman soon.

[wooden frigate]

It’s alright, I swapped it for a lpm anthem k2 which is slightly worse sound wise but a lot shorter

[wooden frigate]

But right now suppressor technology is improving like crazy so there are a lot of new options that are really good like the rhodie 6

And for 30 cal, I don’t know if I have a favorite

[lofty osprey]

ODB has worked well for me...enough backpressure for subs still

[wooden frigate]

Ah

Here’s the lpm anthem being ran in super safe with subs, no hiccups and gas isn’t an issue

[lofty osprey]

sick

I have the 3 burst from STinc I haven't tried out in my larue yet

comes in weed packaging lol

[wooden frigate]

Oh nice, lol

I was thinking about picking up the arc fire since it can be ran with G$ triggers

I would probably not use it too much but just having the option to run super safe is nice

[lofty osprey]

Arc Fire

[wooden frigate]

Oh nice

It seems really nice for the mp5 platform

[lofty osprey]

Atrius

On a 45 banshee

[wooden frigate]

Oh that’s sick

Which one do you like the most?

[lofty osprey]

arc fire

unfortunately my favorite frt is raregreed

I haven't bought anymore since he started going after the other companies

[wooden frigate]

Why’s that?

[lofty osprey]

why its my favorite? It just works the easiest

[wooden frigate]

Gotcha

[lofty osprey]

not a lot of tuning or filing

they have a drop in trigger that works for stock mp5 lowers now

I had to spend $900 on my mp5 to get it to run...and hours of filing, polishing

[wooden frigate]

I don’t like what they are doing to Hoffman but if they work the best, idk. Might be in consideration

[lofty osprey]

I'll buy em used all day

won't send that company any money though, not until they change their stance

they are going after everyone not just hoffman

[echo cairn]

That are $600 and reselling for double-triple for that very reason

[lofty osprey]

they made a deal with the ATF and its bs

[lofty osprey]

oh i know...I want one for my hk

[echo cairn]

ASD is supposedly working on a drop in mp5 one too

[lofty osprey]

I'll happily buy from ASD...they've treated me right

very quick to answer questions

[misty cove]

oh no im big bad bot

lol

its so funy how ppl fall for this

[blazing temple]

@timid belfry bailiff, slap his nuts

[round sentinel]

LMAO

[silk rapids]

May god have mercy on your soul

[fallen epoch]

Infantry it is for you 😭

[jaunty crane]

these are the scores sent to me in an email by a school contact
on friday someone from meps is coming down to do like a meeting to show what jobs I can do

[silk rapids]

I sometimes forget I’m a recruiter lol

Granted I only do officers

[jaunty crane]

I think my mechanical scores are high enough to get me the job I want in the air force anyways

I can always take it again in MEPS

[round sentinel]

Ironically that’s enough to get most jobs

[fallen epoch]

Yeah the military isn’t uh really meant for the smartest cookies

[jaunty crane]

yeah my general science and mechanical comprehension is high enough

[jaunty crane]

thats why im joining lol
to hell with going to college, going broke and getting a lousy degree

[round sentinel]

🙏

[jaunty crane]

I’ll be aerospace propulsion or something aircraft maintenance related i’ll be finneee
I can immediately go to a defense contractor and make alot of money when im out

[jaunty crane]

GT is calculated from these scores
so my GT would be 97

i’d actually have to wait until friday to get the paper that shows my results properly

[carmine tide]

The army would be that way sir

Scratch that

Visit the marines

[hushed salmon]

Nonsense

[hushed salmon]

Yeah I bet you do, you naughty whure

[silk rapids]

My standards are high

[modest hatch]

They try to get all the smart ones to do nuc stuff without telling them it's probably the worst rate in the Navy

[fallen epoch]

Nuclear?

[modest hatch]

Yeah

[fallen epoch]

Oh shit

I knew a guy who went nuclear

[modest hatch]

Well you know another one now.

[fallen epoch]

I’m pretty dumb to say the military isn’t for smart cookies

[thorny flame]

also pretty much guaranteed a boring job after though so

[fallen epoch]

There’s smart dudes in the military for sure

[fallen epoch]

Yeah he was wicked crazy with math

I could never do that shit

not smart enough for that shit lmao

[modest hatch]

I did well enough on the practical stuff to make up for my lack of math

[modest hatch]

True. I work with another doing maintenance and know another that sits around at a nuclear plant doing a lot of nothing.

[fallen epoch]

I took my asvab and scored like a 50-60 something

Wasn’t great

Just a practice one

[modest hatch]

Think I got an 85

[fallen epoch]

Haven’t decided if I want to enlist

[naive laurel]

im thinking about buying my first pistol, would the usp be a good choice?

[fallen epoch]

At least you weren’t like the one guy who scored a 99 and went marines

[modest hatch]

Funny you say that. I took mine and made it a race. I know one guy that made a 99 and picked being a loader for a 155

Dude fucking loved it

[thorny flame]

i don't think you have a great understanding of peoples motivations for military service

the entire point of IQ testing, and the ASVAB was for the military

[fallen epoch]

He could’ve done it for that, but he also went infantry.

[thorny flame]

because you don't win wars with 60IQ morons

(see the middle east)

[fallen epoch]

Fair point

[fallen epoch]

Making things go boom is awesome

I don’t blame him

[modest hatch]

To this point if you do and got your reasons. Talk to the airforce first. That's what I'd do if I went back.

[fallen epoch]

I have everyone telling me that

[modest hatch]

I don't think so and have the money, do it.

[fallen epoch]

I just wouldn’t know what to do

But that’s what a recruiter is for

[modest hatch]

Okay so the recuiters will also try and steer you to what he knows needs filling because its part of his job.

His or her*

But talk to one and see what's available and research it

[fallen epoch]

Gotcha

I appreciate that

[modest hatch]

Do some reading so you have an idea what the job is

Don't let the recuiter talk you into anything.

the 40k sign on wasn't worth it

[fallen epoch]

I do think something with aircraft would be pretty fun

whether it’s like a load master or maintenance

And it’s some valuable skill to use

[zealous garden]

What chest rig is that?

[jaunty crane]

I mean what I want to do is become aerospace propulsion (working on jet engines) or be a crew chief or any other aircraft maintenance job

I already have a goal in sight, I want to get my A&P certification using my AFSC to get hours needed by the FAA to get my certs

so you can kinda
figure out what you should do based on that

[silk rapids]

Recce rig

[fallen epoch]

I mean most of my family’s history in the military was being infantry

Might just follow on that path

[silk rapids]

I use recce rig if I’m shooting a lot and the AVS rig if I need more sustainment because of the big pouches @zealous garden

[zealous garden]

Dope I use a Mil-Tec since I can carry 12 mags and sustainment kit.

[true mist]

the asvab is mostly just about practice

they made me take it every year in highschool (jrotc) and by junior/senior year i was scoring mid/low 90s

didnt decide to go the military route but recruiters blew my phone up for a while

[fallen epoch]

holy shit i could imagine

lmao

[magic vine]

if you do end up going sign the shortest contrat you can get for your job. bonouses come wil re enlisting so son sign a longer one for a bonous cause if you hate it then you are cooked for the next 6 years of your life instead of 3

[dusky frigate]

Sorry for the late reply but I happened to look at this channel. I'm an aircraft maintainer in the USAF. Getting out this year but I'm here if you have any questions about the job.

[round sentinel]

Do it. Yea

[fallen epoch]

Awesome man I’m still looking into options but I’ll let you know if I have questions!

[round sentinel]

It’ll literally last the rest of your life even shooting every week

[blazing temple]

I'm having to fight the urge to order the frame and expert rn

[round sentinel]

No balls

[blazing temple]

dont say that I already have the tabs open

[round sentinel]

Right now

[blazing temple]

nooooo

😭

[round sentinel]

NOW

[autumn field]

what the RFUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME BROOOO

[golden marlin]

No one cares

Nobody here plays the POS game

[autumn field]

my m4a1

jammed

not only once

not twice

[golden marlin]

No one cares

[autumn field]

but 7 times in 2 magazines

[golden marlin]

Didn't ask

[autumn field]

sebby

[plucky grail]

fr sebby

[blazing temple]

Bro bought some poopy mags

Or it's PSA

[golden marlin]

What he did was play the game. Come to the chat and expect people in this section to care

It's a crappy game. Everybody knows it is

Nobody really cares about it here. If you're going to talk about that stuff, do it somewhere else

This isn't a game chat

[proven hearth]

Its fun with friends

As is every game

[blazing temple]

Yeah obviously I'm not gonna respond to him likes he's talking about the game

Because that would be inkorrect

[proven hearth]

Anyway. Pl350 came in the other day

Actually really like it so far

[round sentinel]

Based. I got one as well

Tho i have a zbolt head on it

Only complaint is how flexible cheap the switch piece is

And it doesn’t have a ton of tension to engage unlike surefire

[proven hearth]

I ordered a new head for it so i can use the plhv2 on my 58-M-Mod.
i actually like that it's a middle ground between a streamlight tlr1 and surefire x300. Though i only have the sample size of one so idk how consistent these switches are

Ordered a malkoff HTL v3 though for it

[round sentinel]

Based

Also high output heads struggle with this body

The engagement contact don’t enjoy the higher output running thru them

The LEP style heads will get flicker issues

[proven hearth]

The HTL v3 is only like 33k candela. Far lower than the 55k for the plhv2. If it gives me issues i can just swap back

[round sentinel]

Def

I’ve had great luck with my LED head on it

200 yard hotspot head with a nice flood on a pistol? Yes please

Kek

[proven hearth]

My only regret is the fde HTL v3 was out of stock so i ordered a black

I just had my buddy order a arisaka build with an E2XTLv3, finally talked him out of being a cheap fuck and getting a solid light

[round sentinel]

[proven hearth]

Im proud of him

He took my advice and got a super duty upper recently too

He overpaid for it because hes regarded but that's okay. Ill forgive it this time

Oh neko, have you played gray zone warfare?

Ik you liked ground branch i remember us talking about it. Gray zone is pretty decent for being pre alpha still though

[round sentinel]

I’ve not, no

I’ve seen it, but last I saw the gunplay was super rough still

Shotguns basically were useless

Rifles were useless unless you used AP

[proven hearth]

Shotguns fuck now

[round sentinel]

That’s good kek

[proven hearth]

It still needs alot of work done to it, but for its current state it's pretty fun with friends

[round sentinel]

Honestly the only thing I’ve been playing recently is Satisfactory and some small horror games or stuff here and there

[proven hearth]

A few of my buddies always try to get me to get satisfactory but i dont really think id enjoy that style of game anymore

[round sentinel]

That’s fair. I just enjoy how chill and ‘your own pace’ it is

I’ve always liked automation games so

Got my fiancée into it, so we’ve been playing a lotta coop

[proven hearth]

I get that, going at your own pace on games like that can be a relaxing experience for those into it im sure. I think alot of it nowadays is i just like shooting shit in games, cant be like mindless shooting games or any of that though i like being punished for doing something wrong

[round sentinel]

Oh yeah def, I’m just into horror survival for that experience kek

RE9 was such peak

[proven hearth]

I think id like RE more if friends i have played it

I get bored solo gaming fast as fuck

[round sentinel]

😭

[proven hearth]

I just cant do it anymore lmao, the interactions is what makes or breaks games for me

[round sentinel]

Fair enough lol

I like to just chill out and get immersed in stuff since work was so demanding for a while. Bored outta my mind here but I still play the same

[autumn field]

my bad bro 😭 🙏

[lunar marsh]

Why do ppl see IRL weapons in the title but insist on coming in to discuss something they shot in a video game?

[wooden frigate]

I don’t think they have guns In Rocket League

[silk rapids]

@lunar marsh

Abit wet and nippy out here

[lunar marsh]

You gonna be there tomorrow?

[silk rapids]

Yeah

I’m camping out

I was here since yesterday

[lunar marsh]

I might try to come up and do some shooting tomorrow before work

[silk rapids]

What time

[lunar marsh]

Not sure. I work at 530 tomorrow night

[silk rapids]

If you go earlier we are doing training

We got some COF’s set up

[lunar marsh]

Who all those ppl?

[silk rapids]

A group I’m a part of, basically bunch of folks from all over the Pacific Northwest who gather a few times a year to train

[silk rapids]

@lunar marsh

[lunar marsh]

Sounds like a militia…I’m in

[olive meadow]

People on the left coast don’t train. Don’t lie. 😎

[silk rapids]

You’d be surprised lol

I’m getting slower each iteration lol

[olive meadow]

Not really . I lived there half of my life. 😅 outside of the SeaTac area it’s great

[livid holly]

guess whos back in the states fuckers @lunar marsh @round sentinel @golden marlin

about damn fuckin time too

[round sentinel]

ewwww you

welcome back lmao

[livid holly]

fuuuuuuuuuck you too lol

[round sentinel]

[floral veldt]

Wow me too

Jinx, you owe me a sprite

[lunar marsh]

Sir you have a long ways to go to catch up lol

[ivory violet]

Oh no a sailor

[blazing temple]

Why are you playing mafia 3

[livid holly]

why not

[carmine tide]

bc theres 2 other mafia games that are way better

[livid holly]

And I’m also playing through those as well knuckle fuck

[carmine tide]

you could skip 3 and youd miss nothing

[round sentinel]

white fuckle :)

[blazing temple]

Whatever you do don't 100% it

I have ptsd from doing a second playthrough that is a one playthrough game and it's mid for that one but a second is just miserable

[carmine tide]

Sp5 light is in the mail

[lunar marsh]

Went with the AP Duty. How you like it?

[livid holly]

The part where that one girl takes her own life by cutting her throat genuinely had me seeing there like. Damn……she really just did that, first time a game has ever really gotten to me for some reason

[carmine tide]

love it

[scenic jetty]

i was looking at the compact

[carmine tide]

i love mine

[lunar marsh]

Told ya it was good bang for the buck

[carmine tide]

Reticle is clean too

I got the one with the circle

[prisma snow]

should i put a lpvo on my marlin or a pistol red dot

[lunar marsh]

I’ve got 3…just the 2 moa dot

[carmine tide]

Neither

Ghost ring sights

[carmine tide]

Ill probably get another for an ar setup or when I get that s5 g36

Altho eotechs look good on g36s

[prisma snow]

i had trapper sights

but i wanted to tacticool my marlin

[round sentinel]

LPVO 🙏

[mental shuttle]

an reap ir

[mossy surge]

Do you even supress bro

[autumn field]

Silencer as tall as me

[proven hearth]

@proven kayak this you?

[round sentinel]

[lunar marsh]

When we first got our M110s in like 09 I always thought it was laughable long lol

[round sentinel]

I was looking for the early SR25 where it had the like

5-6ft suppressor

[lunar marsh]

I guess if the suppressor touches the target no gas ever escapes to create noise. Contact rifle suppressor shots it is

[round sentinel]

🙏

[mossy surge]

More suppressor = more suppression obviously, long enough and target will be fully suppressed

[lunar marsh]

If the target is inside the suppressor they hear nothing

[true mist]

Are there any muzzle devices worth considering for my ZPAP M70 other than a can? or should i just leave the slant brake, I dont want an obnoxious gun with a crazy brake, but wouldnt mind upgrading even if its just short term

[round sentinel]

one of the bulgarian 4 piece flash hiders tbh

if it fits

[true mist]

yeah the zpap is 14x1 lh so it should fit

idk how much a slant actually does, but is the recoil impulse still fine with a flash hider?

i figure it is, i just like hearing other peoples experiences

[proven kayak]

too ashort to be mine\

[mossy surge]

Why not go can? unless there's a giggle switch there's not much need for a brake imo, lots of pros with a can though.

[silk rapids]

@lunar marsh there were cops doing drills with us yesterday and it’s funny seeing them try to get through the door with their musket of a patrol rifle lol

[lunar marsh]

lol. They just don’t know how to short stock shit

[true mist]

can is the long term plan, ive just had some medical expenses after a racing crash so im mostly saving until i get a new job (which im in background for)

but in the meantime i dont mind spending a bit on a stopgap if its a decent sidegrade/minor upgrade from a slant brake

[mossy surge]

Fair enough I won't argue with that

[scenic jetty]

Loooong

[olive steeple]

Fellas

Is it my constitutional right to go to a gun show and dry fire everything I can get my hands on?

[round sentinel]

yes

[round sentinel]

consider

[silk rapids]

@lunar marsh I guess we breaking down the setup now lol

[lunar marsh]

Ya I’m not gonna make it lol

[olive steeple]

Saw a Q fix at a gun show and was trying out the trigger, a boomer from the next table over came and told me not to

Like dude

Mind your own business

[echo cairn]

Hell I would have lmao

Wouldn't be surprised if you dry fired it and just broke

[fringe prawn]

Make sure you do this specifically at a Boomer’s table filled with older .22s and revolvers

[fringe prawn]

isn’t that the 4k tactical meme gun sold as a precision rifle that can barely group at 1 MOA at 100 yards?

[unique fjord]

Lantac all the way

[echo cairn]

1 moa on a good day with the best hand loaded ammo imaginable. It's like a 3 moa gun

[olive steeple]

Yeah

But it’s COOL

[round sentinel]

Arguable

[olive steeple]

You could definitely get a rem 700 for half the price

[thorny flame]

there was a better option here you missed

[round sentinel]

Mini cadex build in 300…

[round sentinel]

Besides the earlier one that had the like 5ft suppressor

Yeah. I couldn’t remember its name

[thorny flame]

correct

[round sentinel]

I was lookin for it

[thorny flame]

i got you dw

[round sentinel]

🙏

It’s so goofy

[thorny flame]

30" handguard flex

[timid belfry]

honestly its tempting to just buy one of those ruger American gen 2s in 300 and chop the barrel.

[round sentinel]

Honestly do it

[timid belfry]

people have done it a few different ways

theyre a blast

[thorny flame]

hunting meme gun, to be clear

half the problem with this discussion is people trying to turn a 5lb hunting rifle into a PRS rig

doomed to fail

[olive steeple]

The only reason why you would REALLY want a Q Fix over most anything else is that it weighs less

It’s a “scout rifle”, a spiritual successor to the SSG08, meant to be easy to ruck like 15 miles with

[thorny flame]

no

you have no idea of the history of this rifle

in practice it is a spiritual successor to the scout rifle

[olive steeple]

Dude

[thorny flame]

listen

you need to understand how we got here

[olive steeple]

Doesn’t that PSR suppressor wreck groupings? I half watched nine-holes new video on it

[thorny flame]

but that rifle was also like $20,000

the goal is like well what if they could make something close to that, drop all the shit that makes it incredibly expensive

and sell it as a commercial product (prediction was hillary was going to win and we'd be in the ban times)

[woven phoenix]

LOOKS LIKE A PROOFS RESEARCH CARBON BARREL

[thorny flame]

correct

[round sentinel]

these are so peak

[thorny flame]

but you have to understand when people bitch about price

those rifles were TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS

the surgeon that replaced it is https://surgeonrifles.com/product/rifles/concealable-sniper-rifle-csr/concealable-sniper-rifle-csr-16/

over six thousand dollars

and doesn't have any of the cool shit

just a normal action

[scenic jetty]

What the

[round sentinel]

kek

its cool

[scenic jetty]

It is just never seen it before

[round sentinel]

I only came across it recent

[scenic jetty]

Huh

[round sentinel]

yeah, I asked if theyll bring a bottom mounted version of the grip out, and they said they will be

[scenic jetty]

That’s pretty cool

[round sentinel]

yeah

would try on the L22

[scenic jetty]

If you can should

[round sentinel]

fr

[silk rapids]

Oh wow NClaserworks is fast

3 days and the UID’s are here

[timid belfry]

do i buy a sp5, or a p90 and a 2011

p90 with a progressive trigger sounds like alot of fun

[trim lava]

the sinister 3rd option, a motorcycle

[timid belfry]

[silk rapids]

2011's are an addiction

[timid belfry]

i get a steep discount on a few of the brands so i figure why not

[silk rapids]

which u got in mind

stacatto? bull armory? sig?

[timid belfry]

honestly, if the discount pans out, maybe an XC. would also consider the kimber pro comp or bul.

[silk rapids]

XC is nice

i almost bought one at Scheels but i recently got the sig 211

[timid belfry]

ive gotten to mess with the sig alot, i like it, but idk if i like it as much as the others. the slide is obnoxiously smooth and light though

[silk rapids]

it comes with 2 springs

i had to use the yellow heavier one for the 115's

[timid belfry]

part of me just wants to send it on a sandhawk, but i think an XC would suffice

[silk rapids]

I was just shooting it yesterday lol

[timid belfry]

i can get an XC for like 3 grand

but i can get the kimber for like 1400 lmao

but i also feel like i should buy an SP5 first

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004578621853290629/1441302959827714079/lv_0_20251121003107.gif

[trim lava]

fakecel

[thorny flame]

P90 with FRT is still a vibe

[timid belfry]

that would be the plan

[thorny flame]

tbh it doesn't make sense without one

[timid belfry]

probably both would get a FRT

rare greed just dropped a drop in 3 position for the mp5. so you dont have to swap to a whole new $1000 lower

although its still $600 bucks

[thorny flame]

can you resist the $1300 turkshit mp5

[timid belfry]

i had one and sold it when it wouldnt run flat noses

the new HKs will

[round sentinel]

yes, by not buying 🪳 slop

[thorny flame]

🪳

[proven hearth]

I have an ap5, sure it's turkish but mines been good to me.

Know quite a few others who have them aswell and have had good luck

[echo cairn]

I'm prob gana order the ptr sometime this week

[proven badger]

I'm about to start selling shit to buy an SP5 so I don't feel so guilty spending 3k on a gun lmao

[timid belfry]

the issue with buying the sp5 is its just the begining. 600 for the stock, 700+ for the kac handguard, optic, etc

when you throw a can on it you could hit 6-7k especially if you FRT it

luckily have a 9mm PCC can just laying around atm

[proven badger]

That’s my issue, it’s a fucking money pit

The amount of spending on that thing is endless. Even more than an AR it seems if you want authentic HK parts

[timid belfry]

gotta pay the price to play that game unfortunately

i really regret not buying a sp5 when they were $2500 last year

thats the other issue i had with my clone, i was gonna spend so much money on it it felt wrong doing it on a turkish clone lmao

[proven badger]

truly unfortunate but I get it 100%. That's the main reason I haven't touched the platform

it costs so much to do it right

[thorny flame]

well you can always give up and buy a B&T

since they're also FRT compatible

[scenic jetty]

i thought there mp5s were fine sense there on hk tooling

[mossy surge]

Turks build good guns too man, they just also build a bunch of cheap shit and people seem to forget you get what you pay for.

[round sentinel]

The tooling shit is so dumb

Ah yes the 50 year old worn equipment with trashy metallurgy and part. Muh ho quality

[echo cairn]

If you can even find one right now with the whole B&T USA not paying their bills

[thorny flame]

It doesn’t matter there will be another importer eventually

[echo cairn]

Hence right now

[thorny flame]

Yeah right this second maybe not great

[echo cairn]

I doubt they will send anything else to bt USA so you're at the graces of bt ag. They make good guns don't get me wrong, but I just don't see the prices behind it.

Just get a mp5 or mpx and call it good

[scenic jetty]

I mean I didn’t plan on buying either but

[soft jay]

Damn 6-7k essentially for a range toy

[round sentinel]

That’s not super abnormal

People are more willing to dump money into a range gun they’ll enjoy to take out and shoot

[soft jay]

I just think it's unreasonable to spend as much on a gun as you would on some miata lol

[round sentinel]

Someone doesn’t make American money 😔

If you are really into guns that’s honestly on the lower end of ‘expensive’ builds

[soft jay]

what?

[round sentinel]

Hell my 1911 has cost me more and I’m not even done with it

One of my AR’s sat around 10k

One def currently does

[soft jay]

Kinda Ironic seeing how many Americans live in poverty despite working multiple jobs to afford rent and debt

[lone moss]

[round sentinel]

That is a specific group

But real

Said people ironically have about the same standard of living as much of Eastern Europe

But yeah 6-7k is a very reasonable price passion build. Especially since you usually piece it out over a handful of months

Even those of us who can afford to drop that kind of money all at once, don’t like to

[lone moss]

Bingo

Most I’ll drop at once is around 2-3k

[misty cove]

specific group of only like 105

10%

[round sentinel]

That’s not a lot

[round sentinel]

Same lmao

Sure would I drop 10k+ on something I really really wanted and save for

Yeah

[misty cove]

ok its 11%

in poverty

[round sentinel]

Skill issue

[misty cove]

which for a "realy rich country" is insanely high

lol

[round sentinel]

Just join the military

[misty cove]

''just die for israel bro''

[round sentinel]

Poverty here is weird

Cause they aren’t historically poor

But by numbers they are

[soft jay]

what means historically poor?

They were born into poverty?

[misty cove]

isnt poverty in usa = like use stuff like food stamp and section 8 housing n stuff

[misty cove]

maybe like a family that stays poor?

[lone moss]

Pretty much

[misty cove]

The 2010 census data shows that half the population qualifies as poor or low income,with one in five millennials living in poverty.

interesting

[lone moss]

Unpopular opinion it’s not that hard to get out of poverty if you want here, but you have to be willing to do so, granted some people are born into some shitty situations with no way out but for the majority they could fix their entire life in 2-3 years

[round sentinel]

The historical definition of poor, where people are dying due to lack of basics

In the U.S., even under poverty you can still afford to buy niceties

[soft jay]

What about affording a shelter?

[round sentinel]

That’s true of many western counties

[soft jay]

There are constantly talks about housing crisis in US

[misty cove]

ye

[round sentinel]

There’s one everywhere

[misty cove]

major cities are like unlivable no?

[round sentinel]

But yeah if you are poor ofc you can’t afford a home, that’s everywhere

[soft jay]

when housing in US is laughably cheaper than in western Europe

[round sentinel]

Depends tbh

[misty cove]

well americans prefer renting then paying off a loan i guess

[round sentinel]

If you mean conditions, depends on area

[lone moss]

It’s more complicated then that

[round sentinel]

I cannot stand major city living. It’s completely incompatible for me

[round sentinel]

👆

[misty cove]

ye i know

[lone moss]

Most actually prefer buying but that’s not how it always works out, getting a housing loan is not just black and white

[misty cove]

how do americans function in suburbs like

5km from nearest shop or less

[soft jay]

Not to mention the genius system with accumulating debt to get higher loans

[misty cove]

even a fucking village is closer i swear lol

[lone moss]

We just drive to the store?

[misty cove]

genius system of having to get into massive debt to get higher education

[soft jay]

First you end up in debt

[round sentinel]

We just drive? It’s that easy

[misty cove]

what if you dont have a car or cant drive or anything

lol

[round sentinel]

You have a car in the U.S.

[lone moss]

Skill issue tbh

[round sentinel]

It’s that simple

[lone moss]

Get a bike

[soft jay]

Pay it off and you can end up in bigger debt

[misty cove]

thats still a long way

[lone moss]

Biking 2.5 miles?

The fuck?

[misty cove]

not everyone can drive

[lone moss]

That’s nothing

[misty cove]

5km is not 2.5 miles bro

[round sentinel]

Here. A vast majority can

[misty cove]

its like what 3. smth?

[soft jay]

What if you are handicapped?

[round sentinel]

It’s 3.1 miles

[misty cove]

or that

[lone moss]

It’s 3.1 miles if you really wanna get technical

It’s irrelevant

[round sentinel]

handicapped

[misty cove]

like my friends dad is colorblind but not fully?

[round sentinel]

Lmao you can still drive with that

[misty cove]

and he can get a drivers license but if he crashes he gets arrested or something

[lone moss]

You do realize there are social programs for handicap transport?

[round sentinel]

This too

In any urban area least

[soft jay]

Not everywhere though

[round sentinel]

Back home it doesn’t exist yeah

[lone moss]

It’s funny you guys all come in talking shit about stuff but have no clue really what you are talking about

[round sentinel]

To get groceries we’d realistically need to drive into the city

Which is about an hour away

That’s just how it is in some parts

[lone moss]

Small town is different though

You take care of your own

[round sentinel]

There’s just no option because of how spread out in some states everything is

[misty cove]

lol

[round sentinel]

The nearest town over a population of 5, is legit ~50 miles away

[lunar marsh]

Same shit different day

[lone moss]

Basically

[round sentinel]

Even including 5 person towns. It’s like 35

[round sentinel]

Real

A lotta small towns have some sorta community assembled thing if they have a member with special needs

[misty cove]

land of nothing i guess

[round sentinel]

Yeah, it’s so much better

Fuck dense hell holes

[lone moss]

Bingo

[misty cove]

i agree

cities >like 100k ppl or smth = bad

[round sentinel]

Me when the most rural parts of Poland are way denser than I am comfy in

[misty cove]

lol

[round sentinel]

This isn’t a joke either

[misty cove]

do u wana live alone like in the forest or what

[round sentinel]

Our eastern side of the country is the same way

[round sentinel]

That’s what I had lol

That’s still home for me

[lone moss]

Literally yes

That’s the dream

[round sentinel]

We have a middle of nowhere ranch in the mountains of Montana

[misty cove]

lol

[soft jay]

The nearest gas station 10 miles away

[round sentinel]

For me, yeah about 5-6

[lone moss]

And?

To some of us that’s not a bad thing

[round sentinel]

Yup

[soft jay]

If you dive everywhere

It kinda is

[round sentinel]

We don’t care about driving. At all

[lone moss]

Oh no I have to drive an extra 5 minutes

[round sentinel]

Northerners are way built different in this regard

[lone moss]

What ever will I do

[round sentinel]

We will drive 6 hours for lunch

‘Oh it’s a short drive’

[lone moss]

I used to drive 80 miles one way for work

[round sentinel]

Real. Been there done that

It’s not that bad

Sure I’d prefer to be closer. But it’s fine

[misty cove]

now i can see why so many americans are obese

walking = no

[round sentinel]

It’s not even that

[lone moss]

these guys just have no concept of far driving, 40 minutes is so so long

[round sentinel]

It’s specific state cultures

[lone moss]

For them

[misty cove]

nah we do

[round sentinel]

Real

[misty cove]

nothing beter then driving like 4 hours to go to silesia

:D

[round sentinel]

Better area*

South Silesia that is

[misty cove]

fym beter area

[round sentinel]

[misty cove]

upper?

[round sentinel]

Lower

[soft jay]

I look at it from perspective of gas prices and mileage

[lone moss]

Peak part of American culture is the car, America is built around the automobile

[misty cove]

the one north or south

[round sentinel]

Yesnt

[misty cove]

the south is upper the north is lower

[soft jay]

If you run out of fuel you are stuck in woods

[lone moss]

Brother I have 5 cars it’s irrelevant

[round sentinel]

It’s built around horse and carriage

Which is the same infrastructure as cars

[misty cove]

whats with america and being corrupt

like

[round sentinel]

Have you looked at every other country in existence

[lone moss]

as if America is any more corrupt than most European country

[misty cove]

oh ye

[round sentinel]

Have you looked at your own government with the church’s influence

[soft jay]

Only politicians, but that's the rule in every country

[round sentinel]

^

[misty cove]

but i mean the california high speed rail that shit being built for like 30 years?

lol

[round sentinel]

That’s not necessarily corruptness

[soft jay]

Lmao, church ain't the worst one

[round sentinel]

It’s all the zoning and environmental red tape

[misty cove]

sorta

[round sentinel]

It’s not, but it is one of the bad ones

[misty cove]

both pis and ko need to go

[soft jay]

It's nothing when compared to our politicians

[round sentinel]

No that’s what I’m saying

The politicians owned by the church

[soft jay]

They are owned by money

[round sentinel]

Making Gov level decisions because it ‘doesn’t align with Catholic belief’

Oh yeah def

[misty cove]

german money

250 bilion złoty deficit and we geting a long term 80 bilion euro loan

🥀

[round sentinel]

With no interest basically

Literally a better deal than an internal lone

[misty cove]

yea

but stillb ro fix the deficit before geting more loans

this is literaly turning into gierek economics

-country doing okayish
-get loans to ''buildup economy''
-it fails
-bankrupcy

[round sentinel]

Countries don’t fix deficits

[soft jay]

They only expand it and hide

[misty cove]

greece

we gona be greece 2.0 i swear bruh

[soft jay]

We are already Greece lmao