#beginners-assistance

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fervent notch
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What are GP coins used for?

mental ember
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im rich

full grove
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can anyone help me OCE

drifting jolt
faint canopy
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Anyone know how to get the gym??

reef monolith
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yeah running into the same issue dont see the wall this wipe

glass apex
dapper gate
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Why can I not turn in rye croutons to Jaeger?

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I had two of them so far, both found in raid.

worthy cradle
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Go to Jaeger in the trading menu then go to the tasks from there

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Should work

pearl furnace
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Anyone know a good spot to find the TNT brick for Security lvl 2?

frosty musk
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@glass apex

faint canopy
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ok yeah but when do you get the wall

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havent seen it

pearl furnace
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Need Water Collection 1 and Med Station 1 and then wall should be available @faint canopy

faint canopy
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I have that 😭

dapper gate
pearl furnace
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Hm. Then I dunno. I really thought that was it.

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Pretty sure it's in the patch notes.

frosty musk
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Actually

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Aren't rye different from emelya

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Or whatever

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!wiki rye

faint canopy
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yes

broken quailBOT
frosty musk
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You need those

dapper gate
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Oh so there is two types

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Alr

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Thx

frosty musk
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The colorful bag croutons

pearl furnace
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@faint canopy

faint canopy
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yooo

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thanks bro

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getting my lv2 vents rn

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wait

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I already have medblock and water collector 1

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how do I not see the wall yet then

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whaat

frigid finch
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i dont remember the last time i died to something other then being shot in the head

dapper gate
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Good?

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or do I just sell it

crude anvil
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mid

whole thistle
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Good ammo rn

silent cosmos
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someone give that man M856A1

dapper nest
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Save black knives get ump trader level 1

sturdy mango
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how to move items fast to scav junk box? ctrl left moves it to my char eq

mortal meteor
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drag it onto the box

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no hot key for it afaik, tho havent played in a while

upper hemlock
hexed dirge
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drag and drop

barren pilot
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what are the average time loading in customs map? is 7 8 minutes normal?

sturdy mango
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pretty much

quasi arrow
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I cant buy nothing from the store

barren pilot
potent lodge
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or click the auto fill button

quasi arrow
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damnn Im so dumb

potent lodge
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happens to the best! best of luck with raiding

barren pilot
potent lodge
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2-4 minutes , Sometimes it can be a while if loading in a scav but im usually avg 3 minutes to get into a raid on any map. Sometimes withing 2 minutes. I would highly suggest checking out which servers are selected on the launcher.

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@barren pilot

mental ember
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LFG Im in search of someone holding a tarcone key

crude anvil
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we building that gaming pc

honest bloom
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who is the best trador to insure my stuff with?

frigid finch
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prapor cause its cheaper and it counts towards the money you have to spend with him to level him up\

distant garnet
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Is it possible to do Gunsmith Part 1 with just level 1 trader stuff?

median heart
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you need the gk02 muzzle brake

distant garnet
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Ok thx

thorny snow
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should I keep Intelligence

sturdy mango
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u cant hold breath while peeking with q e ?

bold kernel
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When I get a bronz watch and I die on the same raid I must do all quest over again?

thorny snow
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😦

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yeah you have to get the key again i think it one time use right?

bold kernel
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or this not working like that?

thorny snow
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im not sure i think you cannot, its task item it not in inventory

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that task is paaain

bold kernel
thorny snow
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i think you can get the key on scav

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im not sure of watch

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you could get the key before unless they changed it

fluid gyro
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Is binaluar audio worth to use?

pearl palm
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it goes into a separate inventory, the quest item inventory
u cant put it into the secure container

pearl palm
# bold kernel I can do it on scav?

u cant do any pmc quests as a scav
u can find normal items in raid that are required, but specific quest only items cant be found as a scav

distant garnet
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Is there any alternative to OP-SKS with the dovetail cobra reflex for semi auto LL1 weapons?

crude anvil
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vepr,vpo

distant garnet
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thx

crude anvil
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just push quests gun doesnt matter apart from killing scavs

solid cargo
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anyone have the portable bunkhouse key?

barren pilot
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anyone here from asia? recently I got really bad connection from the sever that show lower than 100 ping but when I try to play it it took more than 7 8 minutes to complete loading every time in custom map.
sometimes disconnect. Is this ever be fix? it take so long for one match. this game is like loading simulator 🤣 im sure this issue it's not from me because when I try to reconnect it take only 3 minutes

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How you guys could wait every 8 minutes to play one raid in this game? 🥲

honest lark
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anyone have portable bunk key

solid cargo
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i need portable bunk aswell

uncut sluice
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Why is it that when I want to switch mags with R+scroll I have to hold down R for a while before the scroll wheel starts to work?

torn rapids
uncut sluice
distant garnet
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Is there any "best" map for scav runs for purely making some money?

oak sphinx
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is there a way i can like search for an item and see if its a task item i need on a website? so if i find a Battery and search Battery it comes up with what kinds i need for a task?

distant garnet
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i like tarkov tracker, lets you mark stuff you have already gotten too for quick reference

uncut sluice
oak sphinx
uncut sluice
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And I just found out about ratscanner. Why didn't I use this last wipe?

tidal lagoon
uncut sluice
tidal lagoon
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You risk being banned although I haven’t really heard about anyone getting banned for it, it’s in a grey area so no way to tell if it’s allowed or not as they haven’t said anything official about it afaik

daring bloom
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"Rat scanner"?

mortal salmon
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is it new longer possible to go to actual lighthouse? ive tried it a few times now when ive spawned nearby, and either die to mines or scav sniper..

tidal lagoon
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Might be before last wipe even not sure

daring bloom
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You need to complete an entire questline in order to access it. And you pretty much need to not have enemies when going to it, as you have to enter in a real session.

mortal salmon
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okay thanks 🙂

tidal lagoon
# daring bloom "Rat scanner"?

3rd party application which scans items you hover over to display value to traders and flea and if you need it for a quest and such to maximize profit

oak sphinx
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good keys?

torn rapids
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tgl is labs key

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good stuff in there

torn rapids
uncut sluice
ruby basin
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When can i mod guns, I see everyone with dope weapons and mine are all stock

oak sphinx
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need something in ur hideout no?

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also lvl 15 to buy mods

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on flea

distant garnet
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You can mod from the get go, workbench makes it alot easier tho, and flea market gives you access to more mods (as do higher level traders obviously)

cerulean dew
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bad idea to just sell all my stuff? I have no space and its making it hard to play the game. I tell myself im gonna use it eventually but I just keep getting more guns out.

mental ember
torn rapids
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i prefer just going for tech spawns and kiba

deep moss
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hey im still cant find any medic kits for the doctors quest any tips for that?

cursive lion
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hello, here I can't return my completed quests, take new quests (the accepted and completed button no longer exists)

distant garnet
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they got moved this patch

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they are just above the quest description on the left

cursive lion
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Wow Thx dude

distant garnet
cursive lion
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yes thx i see that. after 5 years on tarkov im lost with that change XD

distant garnet
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😄 I kept using stuff by accident with the new double click option until I disabled it eft_sadbear

oak sphinx
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love double click

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ngl

wooden pond
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There's multiple conversations going on, no need to get angry, especially like that :)

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If you act like you're entitled for help, then nobody is going to want to help you

oak sphinx
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im ngl i feel like salewa task should be fucking later on it is hard. now in fairness i finished it two days ago but its not easy to find

wooden pond
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Yeah i managed to finish it yesterday, couldn't find as many, and now when it's finished i walked out of two raids with three salewas on me

proven quarry
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You’re sorry for your own opinion?

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Damn

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Anyway any idea on salewa spawnrate? I keep looking all over the place and havent found any

wooden pond
chilly monolith
vale plinth
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best map for beginners?

severe thistle
safe elk
# vale plinth best map for beginners?

I wouldn’t say there’s a “best map” as everyone plays differently, customs will be a lot of people doing early tasks so can be a rough environment to learn in early on but necessary due to its number of early tasks. Woods is nice and spacious so a good option if you’re not looking for too many gunfights so long as you avoid hotspots. Overall, pick single map and stick to it until you have a decent comprehension of where you’re going and what your exits are then move on to a new map, worst thing you can do is hinder yourself by learning 1 map and being stuck to it exclusively

delicate canyon
crude anvil
latent kelp
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hi im new to tarkov

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what do i do first

oblique brook
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In all honesty watch a youtube video on the basic overview of how the game works would be your best bet it'll have quick tips and walk throughs

remote kettle
severe thistle
crude anvil
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rats dont

remote kettle
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no options for how to move through the map, almost impossible to avoid players because of how choky it is. starting quests arent locked to customs anymore, so no reason for that either

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sure it might have an easy layout, but everything else about it is bad for a new player

severe thistle
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Most starter quests begins at customs and he can learn the fundamentals of PVP on there too with Dorms combat (cqb) etc etc. And customs is on the smaller sides of maps. Me personally i would say Woods and Customs are the 2 places a beginner should start.

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Hes not gonna learn how to PVP without first getting into PVP

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Now would i suggest a lvl 1 go straight to dorms? Absolutely not. Squad up and learn from people first.

remote kettle
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imo, you should not go for PvP right from the getgo. learn the fundamentals first, how to heal, learn the map, how ammos and armors interact, etc etc

severe thistle
remote kettle
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avoid PvP at the beginning, which is why i personally think customs is a bad bet

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because of how choky the map is, its almost impossible to consistently avoid PMCs

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which is why i think woods is the best starter map

severe thistle
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I usually suggest going offline raid and practicing gunplay on normal difficulty scavs first. Then go into a raid after getting a hand of extracts/pve/pvp

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Only issue with starting on woods is with all the expansions and stuff a new player would have difficulty traversing through the map without prior knowledge of landmarks and bearings. Customs is pretty straightforward with that.

oblique brook
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Woods isn't a good starting map at all

remote kettle
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yeah, but imo i think youre better off watching some map tutorials, and jumping in instead of trying to avoid PMCs on customs

tawdry belfry
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need someone with West 216 and West 112 please....

oblique brook
remote kettle
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elaborate

graceful flume
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Hello guys, I just got the game and not sure if I encountered a cheater or something else, how can you survive 12 bullets?

severe thistle
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And also what type of armor he was wearing

severe thistle
graceful flume
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very close fight, AK47

remote kettle
severe thistle
# graceful flume very close fight, AK47

You can see in the stats there how much was absorbed by his armor. So therefore this means this was an ammo problem. With lower tier ammo you want to aim for non armored locations (legs, arms, head)

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Its safe to assume this guy was wearing at least tier 4 armor that absorbed all your bullet damage

graceful flume
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got it

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thank you very much

do you recommand any weapon or bullet type for a beginner?

severe thistle
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Some people like low pen high flesh and vice versa

tardy current
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anyone have a 3rd party map they reccommend?

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very new and still much to learn

torn rapids
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just check med spawns

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if ur lucky kill tagilla

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and youll find one on him

kind lantern
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How do I successfully get into woods and get yaegers letter and get out. Ive went in 11 times and have gotten smacked each time

severe bridge
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lmao

cinder field
safe rain
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Someone told me one of the bear voices has a quieter breathing sound could someone tell me if thats true?

safe rain
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Idk I got it first day go at night or something

brittle bramble
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everytime i finish a task i cant collect the stuff it gives me

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ive finished 3 tasks with nothing to collect each time

safe rain
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Idek how to fix that 💀

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You alt f4 yet?

brittle bramble
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just did 🙏

safe rain
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Next best bet is doing one of these

brittle bramble
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it worked thanks

safe rain
frigid finch
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i think early game, the 7.62 MDR is my favorite gun

safe rain
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sks?

sinful crag
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how do you fix guns in the middle of a raid

safe rain
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oh mdr not dmr 💀

safe rain
frigid finch
sinful crag
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jam

safe rain
sinful crag
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thanks

manic jay
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is anyone willing to teach me shoreline secret stash runs?

safe rain
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In controls look for inspect gun and fix jam

sinful crag
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i just started today

frigid finch
safe rain
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Woods stash runs >>

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I just started two years ago

manic jay
safe rain
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You could always use map genie if you have a second monitor

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Or a phone to space

frigid finch
safe rain
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spare*

frigid finch
safe rain
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I thought you were using the tan one 💀

manic jay
frigid finch
manic jay
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fuck

frigid finch
sinful crag
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What map is the best for beginners

safe rain
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How tf did you even get that this early what lvl are you?

frigid finch
frigid finch
safe rain
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Lassie said it best its hell rn

sinful crag
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Ok thanks that's helpful

safe rain
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Lucky you thats my favorite gun lol

tidal lagoon
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woods and customs because starter quests are there you need to learn them

frigid finch
safe rain
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W

sinful crag
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Ok

safe rain
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If you feel like torturing yourself run factory

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Interchange is big and a little confusing at first but once you understand it you either love or hate it

frigid finch
sinful crag
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That's what I have been running for the last 3 hours so in going customs

safe rain
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Ive been trying to do jaegers 3 kills with a bolt and want one of those kills to be me

sinful crag
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I lost everything so I'm going to get it back

safe rain
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Im so close to lvl 15 tho

sinful crag
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I'm almost lv 3

frigid finch
sinful crag
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Ooo

safe rain
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Siiick

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mdr is def up there for favorite guns

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sr-25 still might take the cake tho

frigid finch
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its cool, cause i replaced the hanguard with an aluminum one that has an integrated bipod

pastel quail
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any proffesional task players here

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or stash savers

tidal lagoon
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dvl superior weapon

frigid finch
safe rain
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But its coooool

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Also fuck this task

frigid finch
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Next step is a 6.5 cm rifle, still not sure of what

safe rain
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Or just get a anti material rifle

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Straight .50 cal

safe rain
sinful crag
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Do you know is there an age limit in this server

safe rain
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Thats a strange question

frigid finch
safe rain
sinful crag
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I did but I didn't say I just don't want to get in trouble

frigid finch
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i love the new interface

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but the lag on the traders now annoys me lol

safe rain
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I hate tarkov shooter 3 with a passion

gilded bough
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hey if i die with this sv98 do i gotta wait till prapor 2 to get another sv98

safe rain
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Giving away my kd

safe rain
frigid finch
safe rain
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Otherwise yes

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I despise them but they give so much xp I cant resist

sinful crag
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If I have no weapons to go on a raid what do I do

torn rapids
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go on a scav run

tidal lagoon
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buy or scav

sinful crag
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Ok

torn rapids
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go in with an auto and u can clean the lobby

safe rain
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Peyton my friend ik were here to help but you should look up like a beginners guide for tarkov on yt or something

sinful crag
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Ok I will

safe rain
torn rapids
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mosin in factyory

safe rain
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Im trying 😦

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Stg im coming back with a lapua

torn rapids
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go mosin

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and sit on top

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like on the rafters

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and watch gate3

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no one has abdoned key yet

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so

safe rain
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Abandoned key? Thought it was factory

oak sphinx
torn rapids
safe rain
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Weird

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Yeah factory sucks we rock woods around here

torn rapids
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am i tripping

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this is what i meant

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mb

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emergency exit key

safe rain
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Oh I pulled that earlier lol

frigid finch
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god i wish i wasnt such a hoarder....

indigo meteor
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guys whats the name of woods car extraction

tidal lagoon
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Bridge V Ex

indigo meteor
gilded bough
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lol the stupid sv98 stash quest didn't say i had to survive until after

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jfc

safe rain
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Always assume you have to live after

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because you do

gilded bough
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someone earlier said thanks to whoever waited to shoot me at the quest. Someone else said "at least you're back at main faster". Then I checked the quest and it wasn't a requirement

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adding requirements to the quest after the player does everything is just stupid

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sry

safe rain
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Not really

bold kernel
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I have a doubt that is long unsolved: what is that sort of cheesy meta leading to horrible "gun fights" where people sort of "radar" you and get to your position running, and then immediately stop and shoot not missing a bullet. I find these often in game. Are these cheaters that BSG could not deal with or it's just how the game should be played?

twilit hedge
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guys what the hell i planted the 2 gun powders on factory but the third isnt planting but while im in raid it says quest completed but in the main menu it says that i need to plant 1 more

safe rain
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"Hey get me this item, oh you died? cool go get it again because you didnt extract with it"

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makes sense to me

gilded bough
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The quest was to stash some items in a hiding spot

twilit hedge
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yes i mean i stashed the 2 and the other is not stashing for a reason

gilded bough
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sorry kate wasn't talkin about that

safe rain
tidal lagoon
twilit hedge
gilded bough
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sry nope

alpine quartz
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Hi, are there any sherpa's online to help me with the basics?

safe rain
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What I got from it is when they rotate the other party stops shooting and still somehow knows their location whilst they rotated

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I could have been wayyy off tho

tidal lagoon
gilded bough
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so do i have to go to shoreline again and extract for this fishing gear quest or can i go factory and extract?

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i really don't wanna run that whole ass map again lol

bold kernel
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"esping"?
Ok thanks for the replies but .. All the time it's the same way.. one year ago or 2 times yesterday on different maps.
They just sprint, like it's a sort of meta of the game which makes no sense for milsim nor EFT.. it seems more like arcade sort of Fortnite... and then immediately stop but you can't see them basically.

gilded bough
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yea

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thx

safe rain
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Same map extract

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Every mission thats like that it has to be same map

gilded bough
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thx

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I would pay twice as much for the game if I could skip all shoreline quests

bold kernel
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Unless they are basically ... camping in one place, they see people and then run to you but it doesn't make sense, why the game allows people to aim correctly after a sprint? Of several seconds? This should be nerfed.. it's a non sense.

safe rain
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Have you ever held a gun irl?

bold kernel
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And it's seriously exploited.. it doesn't have any merit but to cheesy trash game mechanics and animation plus the lag.. it actually provokes lag.

gilded bough
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If it feels like ur bein radar'd, you probably are. Unless you're a total noob and don't know turning in place or ADS or whatever makes noise

tidal lagoon
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well tarkov is not a realistic game and I think majority of players would be mad if they made the aiming more like for example squad or other milsims

safe rain
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You are more than able to aim right after sprinting

bold kernel
tidal lagoon
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Game is not fun like that for you

bold kernel
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in reality u can't aim perfectly during or before actually ducking or hitting the dirt.

bold kernel
tidal lagoon
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no lol

safe rain
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Well frankly even if the game was 1-1 with real life it wouldnt make sense for that to be the case

tidal lagoon
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Im just saying I have a really good feeling your opinion is a minority opinion

bold kernel
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it's a very goofy game... if this is kept in the game...

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how u are supposed to take down ppl that come out of corners running and shoot you like they knew where u were?

tidal lagoon
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Its one of the first times i've heard a complaint about that issue

bold kernel
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sure.

safe rain
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Better positioning

bold kernel
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they just use the christmas three they have on them.. and just bully you on you..

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it's not sensical.

tidal lagoon
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thing is there really isnt that many people cheating and esping so most of these times its likely just legit experienced players

safe rain
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Besides hip fire exists I highly doubt that the people youre fighting are sprinting and adsing

tidal lagoon
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and if they peek you first they will have an advantage with desync

bold kernel
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they know they have 1000 HP protection or stuff like that and also meds after it and fixing bones etc and just run onto you (some)... it's no sense.. it's like Bullshit

safe rain
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THat doesnt exist

tidal lagoon
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shoot them once in the head and they die

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people dont have this kind of gear yet

bold kernel
safe rain
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Yeah

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hit firing is crazy accurate

tidal lagoon
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hip firing is very good in tarkov

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in close quarters hip fire dont ADS

bold kernel
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yet or not yet that is what happened 1 year ago.. in labs once.. they just run to you.. this stuff is detrimental to the experience becasue it doesn't lead to a true gun fight.

safe rain
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honestly I dont ads within like 10 meterss

bold kernel
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I generally play games no HUD or modfy them for more immersion like that so that anything is contextual and immersive.. maybe lack of experience. yeah..

safe rain
pine plank
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sorry for getting into the discussion there but need a little help
trying to trade for director's key since yesterday but keep doing error.
I don't have the key on my stash or anything

tidal lagoon
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but for example in a 1v1 where 1 person sits in a corner and 1 person peeks the peeker will win a majority of the time because of desync advantage

bold kernel
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but still some stuff needs to be fixed.. like no always high ready .. it should be low ready ...

safe rain
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Trader was out of stock 🤷

gilded bough
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can i tell if pier boat on shoreline is active?

tidal lagoon
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You should not play tarkov like your regular milsim

pine plank
safe rain
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Yeah

bold kernel
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especiually when people run they have gun pointing down.. and it can't be that they raise it at speed of light...

safe rain
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early wipe

safe rain
pine plank
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is not showing that then. cause is 1300 keys on stock.

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so i'll wait for restock again

safe rain
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Visual bug itll do that often

tidal lagoon
uneven delta
tidal lagoon
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depends a bit on experience of course

bold kernel
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I don't like much technical meta... it's horrible stuff. it's like hacking not actually playing and interpreting.

tidal lagoon
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well hacking is just not right to call it really

finite badge
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How do I get my hands on a co-op extract if every pmc I come accross just guns me down despite me saying about the extract.

tidal lagoon
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but gamesense will get you a very long way

safe rain
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Bronco not to be rude or anything but from what im hearing it honestly just sounds like a lack of skill or understanding of mechanics

tidal lagoon
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they are easier to do as a pmc trying to find a player scav

finite badge
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I thought it'd be easier to get them as people want the fence rep

bold kernel
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hacking I mean knowing the game technical sitaution and just cheesing it...
For example.. people in Hunt showdown were using reshade.. removing everything and seeing people even in fog etc.. and fortunately it was soft banned

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yesterday

bold kernel
safe rain
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Early game people need scav kills so no

tidal lagoon
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i think exploiting would be a better word for that

safe rain
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classist?

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Thats a wild claim but okay

bold kernel
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anyway thanks if this is known ok... it's just funny.. they give up their position running to you knowing they will score a kill.. and also give up their cover? it's not actually realistic nor contextually ok...

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it's more like hyper fantasy.

safe rain
tidal lagoon
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but I really just cant relate to the situation you are having so I really do agree that its a lack of experience

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tarkov isnt a realistic milsim

bold kernel
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all this focus on weapons and cover and so on and then they fall as developers on this not so tasty things?

plucky aurora
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guys/ sorry to ask, if i want to upgrade my security to level 2 i can't because it always gives me error 228 or something, is there something to do about it, or is it because it is early wipe? sorry to ask and thanks in advance for answer <3

tidal lagoon
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I think you are expecting something that isnt tarkov

bold kernel
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it wants to be like Stalker or sort of but in the end Stalker Anomaly with the mods runs and works 100 better.

#

sure.. it's just pve there

tidal lagoon
safe rain
#

W ento

plucky aurora
#

oki i will try thanks <3

bold kernel
plucky aurora
#

thanks for the answers guys

bold kernel
safe rain
#

I didnt say that at all

tidal lagoon
#

hardly what he was saying

bold kernel
#

I guess u don't want to continue :)

safe rain
#

Idk where you even got that from

bold kernel
#

yea h yeah yeah.. usual chat people ciao! love you

tidal lagoon
#

bye

safe rain
#

tf just happened

#

did I do something?

tidal lagoon
#

copium probably

humble spruce
tidal lagoon
#

he complained yesterday too

humble spruce
#

First clip

frigid finch
#

who the fuck is buying a ps-320 when the vudu scope is selling for the same amount

safe rain
tepid mulch
#

does anyone have the 206 key and have yet to do operation aquarious that can heelp me

tidal lagoon
safe rain
#

No but I can come up with 206 reasons to hate factory

tidal lagoon
#

rest of fight its a bit hard to see if you are hitting or not

severe thistle
#

😂

humble spruce
#

It feels like ass dieing like this, look at his head flinch

safe rain
#

Give me an hour or two

#

Gotta start writing

severe thistle
safe rain
#

Nope its happening

#

itll be a while but itll happen

tidal lagoon
#

hes about to drop the factory essay

finite badge
severe thistle
safe rain
tidal lagoon
#

it will truly be one of the essays ever

torn hearth
#

does anyone know why i can't craft salewa? i have the medstasion at level one but when i try it just says this

safe rain
#

Plus exp

finite badge
spark cypress
#

what quest gives acces to 7.62 bp

finite badge
#

You'll prob fence it for like 2k

tidal lagoon
#

none

#

you need to craft 762 bp

humble spruce
torn hearth
tidal lagoon
tidal lagoon
safe rain
#

42 meter shot on factory lets go

#

ent hows your stats looking so far?

gilded bough
#

i died on my second shoreline run because i shot a scav and he pretended to die

#

he made ouch, i see blood on wall, he instantly dropped to prone and his gun was folded to the side cuz of a barrier on the floor.

#

then he shotgun me leg

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had fir flashdrive 😦

chilly monolith
#

yeah they kinda do that sometimes

gilded bough
#

pier boat failed me for the fourth time

chilly monolith
#

I wouldn't even bother with pier boat

gilded bough
#

i just wanted the two safes on my way out and then i figured why not it's right there

torn hearth
tidal lagoon
safe rain
#

3k xp from flea market

tidal lagoon
safe rain
#

Better than me lol im on 50 raids 37 surv rate 2.5 kd

#

I blame most of it on factory and first day jaeger

#

If we dont inclued all of that then im on around 30 raids

tidal lagoon
#

well i focus a lot on quests and surviving and I havent played solo yet this wipe

#

only duo and trio

safe rain
#

I have done almost nothing but pvp

tidal lagoon
#

might have to do some solos so i can actually get to play tho

gilded bough
#

how to lose run through how much time exactly

tidal lagoon
#

7 minute or get 200 xp

safe rain
gilded bough
#

IS 1 scav kill good enuf

#

oh ok

tidal lagoon
#

yes headshot him

gilded bough
#

TY!

tidal lagoon
#

Im really enjoying finding all the rare items more

safe rain
#

pushing lvl 15 has ruined my stats rip

tidal lagoon
#

got a ledx few raids ago and gotten a lot of moonshines in random spots they werent before

frigid finch
tidal lagoon
#

yup

safe rain
#

On the bright side tho once I get flee I can focus on not anything but quests

tidal lagoon
#

had to farm shoreline keys to get ledx last wipe

safe rain
#

winning rn

tidal lagoon
#

ye im really looking forward to flea so i can empty my stash and fast forward hideout

frigid finch
#

also, comtac 4s are still insanely expensive for beginning of wipe

chilly monolith
#

I've honestly kind of just... lost all enthusiasm to play this game. like, I'm not getting much enjoyment out of it much.

safe rain
#

Meme kits

safe rain
#

Play a different game or something

tidal lagoon
#

Im a degenerate so i regain enthusiasm at wipe so i can waste my life playing

tepid mulch
#

im the oppositew

safe rain
#

Tarkov has ruined games for me

tepid mulch
#

i miss 1 week ago when i could play labs whenever i wanted with whatever i wanted

chilly monolith
tidal lagoon
#

new wipe is just a new chance to do even better than last time

safe rain
#

Risk of rain

tepid mulch
tidal lagoon
safe rain
#

Play tarkov on drugs or somethign

severe thistle
safe rain
#

Take stims and see if they give you the same buffs

tidal lagoon
#

drink irl moonshine

severe thistle
#

Some guy here in OKC gave me an irl obdolbos i can feel the benefits flowing through me (im OD’ing on heroin)

chilly monolith
severe thistle
#

Dude everyone makes illegal alcohol at one point

#

Fuck the ATF 💯

safe rain
#

Play irl tarkov

chilly monolith
#

uh

severe thistle
safe rain
#

I was thinking more airsoft but that works too

chilly monolith
#

australian dude, they fucking hate airsoft down here

#

like

safe rain
#

Well buy an airsoft gun and roam the streets shooting people to show them what theyre missing out on

chilly monolith
#

no like

#

you can't fucking buy it

safe rain
#

Lame ass country

chilly monolith
#

yeah

edgy plover
# chilly monolith yeah, but I'm not sure what to play now.

Remnant 2 is a blast. Highly recommend.
If I hadn't taken a long break last wipe I would not be enjoying the game right now.
And in general just do other stuff. Fill your time.
If you make it so you can only play the game an hour or two a day, you'll have a lot more fun with it

safe rain
#

shep werent you a sherpa at some point?

edgy plover
#

Yes

safe rain
#

what happened?

edgy plover
#

Bit of a long story.
Short version is me and several other NA sherpas left at the same time because the higher-ups in the program were being pretty awful

severe thistle
safe rain
#

I was way off

severe thistle
safe rain
#

step 1 be good at the game

severe thistle
#

Already there

#

3 years of tarkov under my belt

safe rain
#

step 2 realize thats impossible and you just lied to yourself

severe thistle
#

Gg’s

safe rain
#

step 3 convince new players you know what youre doing and take all of their good loot

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step 4 profit

severe thistle
#

Its foolproof

chilly monolith
#

but yeah. a break from tarkov sounds nice.

edgy plover
safe rain
#

was going to say try speft but I forgot they dont really like that

edgy plover
#

Back when I joined it was much better

safe rain
#

idk heard its good but I dont feeling like going through the process of that

severe thistle
edgy plover
#

That's a smart move

safe rain
tidal lagoon
#

I aint heard much positive about that program from earlier sherpas

severe thistle
#

Ive heard they rarely actually help and just carry you without teaching you anything

#

(Basically using their pmc babies as bullet shields)

chilly monolith
safe rain
#

Starting my own program called saprehs its sherpas just actually useful

edgy plover
#

Yea lot of sherpas were just in it for the clout, using it to promote their twitch. Others seemed really not to care about actually helping people and just pumping their numbers.

safe rain
severe thistle
#

Instead of promoting a stronger healthier playerbase they use their status for personal gain that’s quite scummy

chilly monolith
safe rain
#

Usually I help new players because I need friends and theyre gullible so theyll take any half decent teammate thatll spare some loot

#

works out I get a friend and they get free stuff

tidal lagoon
#

then they shoot u in the back of the head

severe thistle
#

Correct me if im wrong but isnt tarkovs playercount declining?

edgy plover
#

I just love helping new people. Find it super fun and a neat challenge.
There were some great sherpas, no doubt. But the program itself was pretty tainted

tidal lagoon
#

who knows

safe rain
#

it is but much slower now

tidal lagoon
#

but game definitely isnt dying, player count goes down through wipe and then pops off when wipe

chilly monolith
frigid finch
severe thistle
#

I understand the pain of beginning tarkov so i try to alleviate that confusion with newer people

chilly monolith
#

teaches you more than a carry from a chad

edgy plover
#

But it drops off quick after wipe

safe rain
#

Best way to get good at tarkov is play solo

#

Tips from other players are nice but you cannot get the same experience with others

severe thistle
edgy plover
#

Learn the very basics with someone.
Hone your skills solo.
I think that's optimal

safe rain
#

Nah do what I did

frigid finch
chilly monolith
safe rain
#

dont ask for help dont do research and jump into whatever map you think looks the coolest

edgy plover
#

Yea me and a buddy learned this game totally fresh. No help. Was incredibly fun. Loved the struggle.

#

Granted the game was way easier back then

tidal lagoon
#

sometimes i wish i could do it again with no knowledge of the game

frigid finch
gilded bough
#

wats my earliest option for holding keys

safe rain
#

This wipe does feel a little dead tho tbh

severe thistle
safe rain
#

Mostly qol stuff all of the big changes are coming december

tidal lagoon
edgy plover
safe rain
#

Well I lied not december knowing nikita itll come February

gilded bough
#

omg i found a gingy keychain and sold it

#

i thought it was just a useless collector item

chilly monolith
edgy plover
gilded bough
#

so only others are docs and keycard holder?

frigid finch
#

early wipe strength makes me want to kill myself...feels almost mandatory to have a mule with you for any real looting lol

edgy plover
#

Sicc you can't get for a while

chilly monolith
#

I feel like a lot of my issues with the game are just it getting a bit stale. like, most of the content added this wipe seems a bit... outside my skill bracket.

safe rain
#

Next wipe theyre adding a bunch of things which is nice but they pushed half of it back from this wipe

frigid finch
#

yea, keytool barter is about 800k if you buy off flea right now

safe rain
#

they also need to optimize streets cause holy fuck its still impossible for me to load in on a 1650

edgy plover
#

Docs case also holds info items which is really nice

severe thistle
#

I have thousands of hours in this game and i dont think i have ever bartered

sturdy mango
#

what do i do now?

safe rain
severe thistle
safe rain
#

did you die?

gilded bough
#

i'll just look for a lion and 2 more lions

edgy plover
gilded bough
#

horses

sturdy mango
#

i didnt die

safe rain
#

listen to shep he likes pancakes

sturdy mango
edgy plover
#

Oh, move it up into the in-raid catagory

gilded bough
#

do u hand it to a diff trader?

edgy plover
#

See if that helps

sturdy mango
#

it was in raid category

#

i moved it now to hideout

edgy plover
#

Then yea, try the restart thing

#

This wipe is way buggier than previous ones

chilly monolith
frigid finch
severe thistle
#

I have been fighting for a recoil change since the start

edgy plover
chilly monolith
safe rain
#

When in double clear chache

chilly monolith
#

I might just need to find another game with similar mechanics.

frigid finch
tidal lagoon
edgy plover
#

Lot of people love hunt showdown.
IMO tarkov is the best in the genre, and it's not close

safe rain
#

It feels better from when I last played

severe thistle
#

Ive posted this video thousands of times before. Not once while shooting full auto did my gun ever point up to the sky. Current tarkov recoil treats your rifle as if your PMC wasn’t shouldering his rifle. When you shoot full auto in game it should be like real life where it bounces not lifts your barrel.

safe rain
#

but still recoil needs work

severe thistle
#

This video is an accurate representation of what full auto should look like

severe thistle
#

My sight picture bounced not raised up

safe rain
#

I kind of agree

severe thistle
#

If they can somehow implement that it would be amazing

edgy plover
frigid finch
chilly monolith
gilded bough
#

I JUST FOUNDA weapon repair kit

safe rain
#

I still think there should be some kick but not to the rng degree that there iss

gilded bough
#

is it worth what?

tidal lagoon
#

rn i think rifles and such still like rotate as if the stock wasnt touching ur shoulder or whatever and it seemed like that are fixing that next wipe but the recoil still looks fucking ass

safe rain
#

45k i believe

gilded bough
#

weapon repair kit aint worth much?

chilly monolith
#

I mean take it

severe thistle
chilly monolith
#

but like, they're not that good

frigid finch
severe thistle
#

At least make the stock of the rifle an entity that actually connects to your PMC’s shoulder

#

The new recoil that they showcased is pretty spot on ngl

edgy plover
#

Yea I think the initial recoil climb is silly. Make it so full-auto gets unstable after a time, not instantly

#

The new recoil is even worse

#

Burst fire should be the meta, as that's quite realistc

severe thistle
#

Why do i have to fight my PMC to aim

chilly monolith
edgy plover
#

The new recoil they showed is like doubling down hard on auto-stabilization

frigid finch
tidal lagoon
severe thistle
#

It bounces up after 3-4 shots then automatically stabilizes

#

I SHOULD be the one to control the gun not the PMC

edgy plover
#

Fair criticism.
But man, recoil is really hard to get right in games.
You just can't simulate it well.

edgy plover
#

What game have you guys played that does it best?

#

I've heard squad is decent

#

haven't tried it myself

frigid finch
#

battlebit somehow does recoil better then tarkov lol

tidal lagoon
#

squad fucked their recoil recently

chilly monolith
#

fuckin, if your dude doesn't know how to use a firearm, it takes him 10 actual seconds to aim

frigid finch
#

i also kinda wish games would remove headshot damage....because nowhere in the real world would you ever be headhunting while shooting

tidal lagoon
#

arcade games are nice with headshot multipliers, it rewards good aim and skill

#

in tarkov u cant really remove it because if u get a fat bullet in ur brain u prolly die

edgy plover
#

I just think that's because of how hard a target it is to hit, but obviously if you were a crack shot and had ice in your veins you'd aim for the head against people wearing armor

frigid finch
edgy plover
#

That's not because it wouldn't end the fight though, it's just way too hard to hit to be worth aiming for

#

But in a game there's not nearly as much pressure, so it becomes viable. Would be super wierd if there wasn't headshot damage

frigid finch
tidal lagoon
#

yea its not really the same consequences of not being able to kill ur enemy in tarkov as irl dont see a way of doing it

chilly monolith
#

beacause that's the best thing for both being able to hit easily and actually kill them?

edgy plover
#

I've heard it's become pretty common to index on the belt buckle. Putting a round in someones pelvis will drop them instantly, and it's almost never armored.

frigid finch
severe thistle
#

Or hell let loose

#

Idk what games fail to do as stated in my demonstration is fail to identify the stock as an entity

#

Theres a 2 part series on YouTube called “the flip is a lie” and he demonstrates how games specifically tarkov gets recoil wayy wrong

frigid finch
severe thistle
#

They based the recoil changes on his video

severe thistle
#

I thought that was amazing and rare for a FPS

frigid finch
severe thistle
#

but the PMC almost feels like hes holding the rifle away from him instead of shouldering it

tidal lagoon
#

cuz he is

#

he doesnt know how to hold it

#

bsg didnt give our pmcs knowledge on operating a stock

severe thistle
#

Surely they could’ve realized when designing recoil they were WAYYYYYYY off

#

Idk if i could have a sit down with one of the devs and explain how a firearm works i would be so happy 😭

#

In terms of recoil and movement of course

tidal lagoon
#

i think it has to be on purpose

severe thistle
#

The only way to get through with BSG is if youre a big streamer or content creator

tidal lagoon
#

and we accept it with pleasure eft_sadbear

severe thistle
#

At least BSG somewhat cares about their community

serene shore
#

should i buy a lucky scav box as soon as possible?

tidal lagoon
#

yes, however i have heard there is a bug where u dont get the scav box rn but im not sure if its solved or not

tidal lagoon
sturdy mango
#

should i sell GP coins or its worth saving them?

tidal lagoon
#

sell id say

#

they are not for quests only barters

gilded bough
#

just got one tapped by a scav to thorax while I had c4 armor. He's using x39 ps

tidal lagoon
#

although i still keep them cuz i hoard

gilded bough
#

one tapped in the chest by PS through C4? What is going on?

tidal lagoon
#

not possible

gilded bough
#

well i've had shit luck all day but this takes the cake i think

#

i hit an airdrop and was nearly at exfil

#

also itw as through a concrete support columjn lol

tidal lagoon
#

i guess maybe if it fragments it could do extra damage but im not sure if fragmentation works properly

gilded bough
#

it shouldn't even pen my armor 😦

tidal lagoon
#

it has 35 pen so it has a chance to pen

gilded bough
#

i am so defeated today 😦

tidal lagoon
#

38% chance to pen lvl 4

severe thistle
#

I just wished the developers actually cared more about it ykwim

tidal lagoon
#

ye for sure

severe thistle
#

I wanna see this game thrive and im sure most people do but it just feels like the community voice is going unheard.

restive linden
#

found 0.2 btc in raid, should i sell to trader or wait for flea market? its 400k at therapist

tidal lagoon
#

trader

#

you cannot sell bitcoin on flea

severe thistle
#

Instead of implementing new things. Fix current broken things. Once everything is fixed. Go ahead and add whatever you want

restive linden
#

thank you

severe thistle
#

Sell it to therapist

tidal lagoon
#

yea, although i still want them to add new stuff at the same time, cuz a new wipe without content its just not really it

lavish kindle
#

Does it seem as though the loot is pretty week since wipe

tidal lagoon
#

youd think they could do both tho? have a team on content and one on fixing broken shit

severe thistle
severe thistle
tidal lagoon
#

if u mean u get bad loot i wouldnt say so, form what ive gotten and heard loot spawns havent been better in a long time

lavish kindle
#

half the usual loot bags are not even there half the time

tidal lagoon
#

oh yea

#

thats a feature, loot containers wont always be there

#

they added many new spawns too and added some randomness to wether they spawn or not

tidal lagoon
marble ether
#

The flea market bug still exists where if you list too many things too quickly your game locks up with the "thinking wheel"?

#

jesus

orchid isle
tidal lagoon
#

dont think ive had that

orchid isle
#

i think its just ur internet

edgy plover
#

When you try to move an item to a different slot it just sort of flashes

orchid isle
#

but not in flea

edgy plover
#

No, but it happens when you're listing a lot of items on the flea

#

Which is what I think he's talking about

orchid isle
#

it also happens for gun modding

edgy plover
#

Yea, game can't handle complicated things

#

silly game

#

Ran into my first obvious hacker

#

Was sitting afk in night factory in a weird spot, hadn't moved in ages, just waiting for people to leave so I could do some quests.
Heard him come up, pull a nade, and just send it on top of me. Actually killed him, but we traded.

tidal lagoon
edgy plover
#

Oh yea, the instantaneous doulbe head tap

tidal lagoon
#

funny thing was there was 2 people first who were clueless and just backed off then some third guy came with some better gear and folded us lol

#

so I assume carry service or some shit lol

sand gazelle
#

how is the sound in this wipe?

edgy plover
# tidal lagoon so I assume carry service or some shit lol

I can sort of understand the motivation for cheating. Maybe profit or maybe you just suck and want to ruin peoples days.
But paying for a cheater to be your nanny and give you gear you don't even have the skill to use... man, I don't understand that at all. How do they not just die from being that pathetic

tidal lagoon
edgy plover
#

Yea things are way louder

sand gazelle
#

yea that one i noticed aswell

tidal lagoon
edgy plover
#

100%

tidal lagoon
#

like what do u get? u lose ur hard earned cash to be artificially good at a game

edgy plover
#

Well that's what you'd get from directly cheating.
Paying for a carry just gets you gear

tidal lagoon
#

what happens when u lose ur carry service? jump in raid and lose all the shit u just paid for?

edgy plover
#

And then what?

#

It's crazy

tidal lagoon
#

they gotta get a grip

orchid isle
tidal lagoon
#

yup

orchid isle
#

Idk just a major skill issue for them

tidal lagoon
#

has to be deeper

#

extreme case of insecurity

orchid isle
#

Deeper than the basement they live in?

tidal lagoon
#

much deeper

lofty shore
#

had tarkov for ages, since reallllly early days, 2017 or 18 rings a bell, but only just playing it properly for the first time now, think something like 1 raid then and done with it for a few months normally, now about 10 or 11 raids in, trying quests, is it worth sticking to one map til you know it inside out? For example customs is my go to at the moment,

tidal lagoon
#

you are forced to expand to other maps at some time to progress your quests

#

woods and customs have a lot of starter quests so u can stick to those first and learn them kinda well first id say

edgy plover
#

Skill in Tarkov is very map based.
Sticking to one will give you place you know well, that you can return to to make money if you need.
Definitely get one map down before expanding, will make it much less brutal.

lofty shore
#

Makes sense, still in the ongoing battle for salewas, and a measuring tape... shall keep fighting! thank you

tidal lagoon
#

since customs is ur go to thats probably a good one to learn properly first

#

then maybe woods and then shoreline Id say

#

factory before shoreline possibly now that i think about it, its very small so doesnt take long and has some quests before u get to shoreline quests

lofty shore
#

One thing I have noticed, is I don't see many PMCs as a Scav, even with 20+ minutes to go on the raid, not had a single SCAV/PMC conflict as a Scav,

edgy plover
#

Most PMCs that are still in the raid at that point are trying very hard to avoid you

#

Lot of people with quest items not looking to get into fights with player scavs who have nothing to lose

tidal lagoon
#

ye many are focusing on quests and also depends on the paths u take

lofty shore
#

Trying not to succumb to fear and go to high risk areas, crackhouse/medical has left me with trauma...

#

thanks for the info though 🙂

edgy plover
#

I hate crackhouse

#

That place is a deathtrap

tidal lagoon
#

start of wipe i only go to crackhouse if i spawn RUAF then loot quickly and get out

edgy plover
#

Exactly

tidal lagoon
#

or if its very late in raid but then its prolly already looted

lofty shore
#

I have been forcing myself there to see if I can find my last in raid Salewa, its proving illusive,

edgy plover
#

elusive*

tidal lagoon
#

do u have medstation in hideout?

lofty shore
lofty shore
tidal lagoon
#

alright, u can craft salewas there for 2 car first aid and 2 esmarchs

#

they will be FIR so u can use them for the quest

lofty shore
#

Honestly, seem to be coming out with plenty of stuff to sell and profit with, but none of the "key" items I need to progress my hide out, hence the measuring tape saga for "security"

tidal lagoon
#

ye thats how it be, sometimes u will just be very unlucky and dont get what u need

tidal grotto
#

an1 new wanna play?

tidal lagoon
#

when u get flea it will be much easier since u can fast track ur hideout and then craft a bunch of items u need

tidal lagoon
#

yes

#

so might still be a while

edgy plover
#

Yea I never focus hideout until 15, Tarkov knows what you want, and won't spawn it in your raids

#

I stg it's deliberate

tidal lagoon
#

im still missing my 3rd iskra 😢

edgy plover
#

I used my first lab card to get my iskras

#

was so sad they took them out of the IC boxes

tidal lagoon
#

valid, but im waiting for my last teammate to get a labs card so we can all go there together

edgy plover
#

Understandable

#

Tarkov shooter was bugged for a while anyway, so it didn't really matter that I got them

tidal lagoon
#

hes got an actual life outside of tarkov w job and a kid so he cant play that much so im limiting myself so were progressing kinda equally so its still fun to play together for him

#

yea some quests being bugged seem so random man like i dont understand how certain things would get bugged out like that

edgy plover
#

spaghetti code

tidal lagoon
#

real

trim grove
#

New to Streets, which extract is the car extract?

tidal lagoon
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forgot full name but all car extractrs have "V Ex" in the name

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Primorsky Ave Taxi V-Ex is the full name

sonic wing
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can't turn in quest items

tidal lagoon
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restart and clear cache

sonic wing
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did

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even uninstalled

tidal lagoon
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then I dont know

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and state what u have already tried to solve it

edgy plover
sonic wing
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i have

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and also it won't let me

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it like doesn't load

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and i haven't had this problem in 4 wipes

edgy plover
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Very annoying

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This wipe is buggy

sleek briar
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Is the director's key bugged? The Rapist says she has 1300 of them but when you try to buy it, says out of stock

tidal lagoon
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at least the enemy isnt invisible like last wipe

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trader page is bugged

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if u filter by item u will see true value

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they get sold out instantly

sleek briar
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Damn, we riot?

tidal lagoon
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thats the only right name

sleek briar
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Director's key

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You know, for big red

tidal lagoon
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bro

crimson frost
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was the best map for beginners

tidal lagoon
severe thistle
sleek briar
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Therapist

crimson frost
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ow thx @tidal lagoon

tidal lagoon
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brother

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Im seeing 2 different traders here

severe thistle
# crimson frost was the best map for beginners

A good map to start on is customs or woods. Customs you can get a feel for the game on a much smaller map. But on the other end you can explore more on woods. But both are generally a need to know maps due to most starter quests being at these locations. I highly suggest going in offline mode to practice your extracts and memorizing landmarks.

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Good luck!

crimson frost
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but if you go ofline you dont keep the lood @severe thistle

edgy plover
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Practice is worth way more than loot

severe thistle
crimson frost
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okey

edgy plover
severe thistle
# crimson frost okey

Also to help get your bearings straight on these maps i highly suggest pulling up a map on a second monitor or on a mobile device

edgy plover
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But you can grab it off reset if you're quick

crimson frost
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yes i have the maps on my second monitor @severe thistle

gilded bough
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or get used to alt tabbing in a bush lol

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that's what i do as a single monitor fella

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i keep tarkovtracker open on chrome

severe thistle
chilly dagger
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are any of you able to scav?

severe thistle
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I hate to admit it but thats what i do

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Mf monitor looks line analog TV

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Adds to my immersion ngl

tidal lagoon
edgy plover
severe thistle
chilly dagger
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reserve?

severe thistle
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So far lighthouse and streets have the longest queue times

tidal lagoon
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customs and woods should be overall best for scav q time

chilly dagger
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i also start matching 30 seconds in

severe thistle
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Streets youre lookin at 20-30 minute queues

edgy plover
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So your scav queue will be ages

severe thistle
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I ❤️ reserve

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My home

edgy plover
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You are nobody. eft_USECgun

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But you know what I mean, not really an early wipe map

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Reserve is very fun

severe thistle
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Loot heaven

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Idk bout this wipe tho

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Havent played too much im still on debut 😂

edgy plover
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Yea I like to go there after I hit 15, such good money

severe thistle
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Idk interchange has seemed off these past few wipes

chilly dagger
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where do yall loot on reserve i just hit tech room then run down to the power rooom to check for bodies

severe thistle
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Lots of loose loot laying around

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Tank batteries the whole 9 yards

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All the crates in map room as well

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Haven’t done much testing on reserve loot runs with the new dynamic loot spawns yet tho

edgy plover
vapid robin
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anyone willing to add me on discord and help me with tarkov i just downloaded last night and need some pointers

severe thistle
edgy plover
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it wasn't pretty

orchid isle
severe thistle
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Yep LMAOOO

severe thistle
edgy plover
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it barely mattered lol
hadn't caught on to the Obd 2 yet (not sure it existed in 12.12)

severe thistle
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Call me dumb but im a little based and dont use injectors

edgy plover
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I like drugs

severe thistle
dire folio
severe thistle
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Dont @ me ergo is for the hoeless

dire folio
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Pointfire on top

severe thistle
dire folio
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I was kinda just walking around pointfiring on woods with a baby ak

sinful vale
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pst not on peacekeeper 2 anymore?

dire folio
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Killed 3 pmcs then a scav came and 1 tapped me across sunken 😭

severe thistle
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If you need to AIM to hit head/eyes you got soft hands

dire folio
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Rawr, i dont have a way to collect my insurance but i want to collect it

severe thistle
dire folio
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More accurate than?

severe thistle
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It seems like i hit more shots point firing than ADS

severe thistle