#eft-story-and-lore-discussion

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twilit crater
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that they are actively trying to find TerraGroup bunkers all around tarkov and some mainly Priests are ex-TerraGroup employees

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they also engage in ritual sacrifices and cannibalism

tidal kettle
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don't they pray to some sort of nuclear thingie or is that smth made up

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i say this because i ran into two of them and beamed them

twilit crater
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everything about Cultist scream ex-TerraGroup employees actually

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also the Cultist whisper in game and phrases around their cultist sites which can be translated to "We have always been here" "Come on, they are here" "They are finally here" "They are here"

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all the cultist voicelines

tidal kettle
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ohhhh

austere token
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terragroup test subjects maybe

twilit crater
# austere token i don't think they were the terragroup employees they were hunted down and kille...

In the first book or second book when the main character is caught the cultist notice that he is a low level terragroup employee and says "Not one of them" and when he killed a Priest he finds a bunch a keychan and flashdrives with terraGroup info on them and they are also used to open TerraGroup secret bunkers and also secret logs and messages pre tarkov about things that are coming and sign off with "They are already here" like the Cultist voicelines. When meeting the USEC they try to get the USEC to join them even killing a cultist to show their devotion then one USEC commander is really interested in the cultists. They dont show up to thermal imaging cause of the SJ9 experimental stim they injected into themselves, the unknown toxin they use in their knifes are only cured by another TerraGroup stim xTG-12. Their pants and shoes resemble that of soviet era hazmats and even their symbols are even for Dennis in the books familiar cause they resemble TerraGroup symbols

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if not TerraGroup employees then they are extremelly connected to TerraGroup

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Even being well versed in the TerraGroup secret bunkers and even knowing that damaging the bunker in any way causes "Fixer" teams to be deployed to fix the damage

austere token
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but the cultist are just a minority of terragroup since they were still targeted by the manually activated traps at the tunnel enterences

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peter is the cultist leader? and ivan is the usec commander if i remember right

tranquil yarrow
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So, at Kaban's party, is the old guy Partizan? All the other bosses are there. (season 2 of the raid)

marsh hemlock
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i kinda doubt it parti is anti scav

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we think

torpid locust
tranquil yarrow
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I only really said Partizan because all the other bosses were there

torpid locust
tranquil yarrow
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oh yeah partyzen and jaeger are bffs

torpid locust
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Drinking over the fire and telling war stories while the scav bosses have a friggin slav uncle dinner

tranquil yarrow
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the tarkov books seem great

torpid locust
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Yeah, the Predator trilogy is alright

strange trout
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So I still wondering

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What happen our PMC player

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Begin stealing and operating abandoned military vehicle?

hazy portal
manic crest
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bro i just had a MAJOR tarkov theory hear me out:

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tarkov is a place on earth!

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🤯

marsh hemlock
spark garden
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Then some kind of EMP made communication impossible

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so no radio so people shoot everyone and just want to survive

sterile kayak
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where can i read the lore from start?

twilit crater
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or listen to it from EUL Gaming video on it

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hollow epoch
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I was wondering about the timeline - when you start your journey, it feels like it is right after the EMP (finding supplies quests etc.). But on the other hand, established traders, territories dominated by local gangs (bosses) and no civilians points more towards a later point when you start your journey. Or did I miss sth and those new orders established already during the "war" before the nuke?

twilit crater
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You start your journey after contract wars which is when the first conflicts happened in tarkov and the government closed the city and after USEC and BEAR have stopped sending PMCs into tarkov

austere token
# hollow epoch I was wondering about the timeline - when you start your journey, it feels like ...

You start WELL into the conflict, the scav bosses and traders are not even big players in the game until a few months maybe even a year in im not sure how long.

at the start of the conflict it was just the bears killing every terra-group employee they could find, scav gangs making slave groups called ripper gangs that stealing everything they could find. And the cult kidnapping the terra-group employees and inducting the high ranking ones into the cult and making the low level employees build long tunnels under tarkov (could be the labyrinth but never confirmed).

torpid locust
hearty pumice
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can anyone give me a tldr of tarkov's lore?

rotund shadow
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then people die

lusty marlin
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is zelensky the lighthouse boss?

native wave
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Zach is

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Zryachiy is his real name lol

austere token
# hearty pumice can anyone give me a tldr of tarkov's lore?

Terra-group is bad and did human experiments, when they were at risk of getting caught by the bears they got USEC to start armed conflicts all over tarkov. An EMP struck (no one knows who did it this also started the cult) Everything went to shit and then the USEC, BEARs and UN all pulled out of tarkov. Now its basically a giant demilitarized zone that no one wants to go back into and secure.

hearty pumice
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im assume it's USEC because I'm Bear and I can't be evil so

austere token
# hearty pumice so who's the bad guy

Everybody is the bad guy, bear executed every Terra group employee they could find.USEC killed whatever Terra group told them to. And terra group killed civilians for their research. The UN just sits on the edges of tarkov and does photo ops pretending to help, and sells the un gear for money

hearty pumice
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damn

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I mean then shouldn't Scav be the most innocent? Aren't they just civillians that are pushed into this situation?

fierce jewel
# hearty pumice I mean then shouldn't Scav be the most innocent? Aren't they just civillians tha...

Civilians eventually got evacuated and while it isn't incorrect to say some people got left behind a lot of the scavs purposefully stayed behind in order to loot stuff. So they're more just capitalizing on the anarchy than people caught in the crossfire. Either way, however "clean" they were at the start of the conflict - most of the lore points to current day tarkov being ran by scav gangs that are pretty ruthless. It's why whenever you read Jaeger's quest description or other scav kill quests they HATE scavs.

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The ultimate bad guy is Terragroup, USEC and BEAR are morally flawed on a good day, The UN and RUAF are complacent/withdrawn for the sake of not starting a world war since Tarkov is techinically a weird tax-haven-international territory within Russia to which the specifics are not exactly known. The Cult believe the EMP was a god but also seem to have weirdly tight connections to Terragroup and I think the CIA was mentioned a couple of times in the books. Scavs are analogous to Stalker bandits.

it's important to note that whether you play as USEC or BEAR, you are no longer USEC or BEAR. You have no command. You have no superiors, or squad mates. You have been completely organizationally abandoned within Tarkov.

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Both USEC and BEAR have pretty real life inspiration which I don't think I'm allowed to mention the names of, but should you do a google search or two on PMC companies from around the world you might see how they aren't exactly "good guys".

fathom ocean
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So who is the French guy ref refers to

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Maybe the same as luxurious life too

compact sedge
kind ibex
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the customs coop exfil is so stupid

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why does a coop exfil depend on where you spawn

atomic lodge
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Guys If you look carefully just Ragman is buying sexy posters. He loves women.

fathom ocean
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He’s a pretty attractive dude weird that he’s canonically a gooner

hearty pumice
obsidian void
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However not all of USEC was in on the plan

indigo timber
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who wants to hear a crack head theory? the quests in the game are cannon but we die all the time and once we die we loose everything and insurance is a thing. what if terragroup and BEAR have stimed the fuck outta the PMCs that can take fatel damage and die but after many hours in game time we come back and regen and we just go back to the hideout

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sense propitals and ETGs are thing

dark lion
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it would make more sense that BEAR would want to keep terragroup people alive for intelligence, as the overall goal is exposing the company

indigo timber
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we were ditched by both parties they wanna make sure nothing is left and restart the economic zone and bury all the sins

austere token
austere token
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They either look evil or incompetent if the news gets out of tarkov

austere token
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But the BEARS are conically a extension of the russian armed forces so not pmcs as much as soldiers

meager rose
austere token
# meager rose Fascinating! This is the first time I hear about it! Was it in books or lore doc...

so the database the bears have is shown in the first book at the very beginning when the main character is about to escape with his friends but forgot his stockpiled water in his apartment and when he looks through the window he watches his friends get executed and the car burned.

The whole thing about everyone wanting the terragroup intel is mostly due to the raid series where the english dude teams up with the russian dude to get the proof of terra groups wrong doings out of tarkov and to the media but the harbor is sieged by a scav gang working with the unknown Black Division PMC group.

Its very evident through the quest lines involving Sanitar that he did alot of research into the battle stimulants since he was a janitor at the lab, and that both the west (peacekeeper) and the east (therapist) wants his research because of the Samples quest and the colleges part 3 quest. Peacekeeper wants to research the stimulants but therapist asks you for stims and labs keycards as well so it seems she wants to know the process to make them.

manic crest
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huge lore dilemna: when you eat the items where do they go? do they go into a black hole - if they do then it will consume the world (impossible to solve source trust me bro)

austere token
manic crest
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dark lion
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you can enable the pmc bladder stats in ur menu

vocal berry
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who is supposed to be speaking in the dialogue for Against the Conscience Part 1? Its clearly not ref and its probably not fence cause it would be easier to just make it a task for him if so.

austere token
torpid locust
austere token
torpid locust
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Peacekeeper confirms he graduated in medicine, specializing in infectious diseases. He even knew about the labyrinth and the missle underneath the resort, years before Labyrinth dropped for us to see

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dark lion
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youll figure it out

tough olive
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dadadad

manic crest
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question: why is kaban so hot

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he has no right to be such a diva bro

torpid locust
manic crest
dreamy basin
mint sail
lone pier
manic crest
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I think this is my first serious question here but why does Ryzhy always have his face hidden? Like bro with that beard that would be way too scratchy.

rocky prism
fierce jewel
manic crest
dry seal
inland coyote
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why no black people?

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lore, afrrican americans aren't able to be hired? or they aren't able to live in tarkovs area?

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I want an answer

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Like i understand russia and pmc but like, no black people in game at all

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like no women fine

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cuz they arent combat ready

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but like black people????

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I mean we all know how we REALLY feel about them

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but they do still exist

acoustic cosmos
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yo honest question whos these third pmc faction operators?

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theres like a hidden pmc faction that stormed a russian outpost

twilit crater
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probably picked from the best of USEC

acoustic cosmos
acoustic cosmos
twilit crater
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so probably not

acoustic cosmos
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or smth like that

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would be nice to see another npc faction

twilit crater
acoustic cosmos
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😭

twilit crater
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and they seem to be working closely with Scavs

acoustic cosmos
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them american would do anything for cash

acoustic cosmos
twilit crater
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Probably more like cannon fodder more than anything

acoustic cosmos
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would have been nice if they got added honestly

twilit crater
acoustic cosmos
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would be nice i mean

twilit crater
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yeah it would be

acoustic cosmos
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the tarkov release is gonna be crazy

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just hope they add like npc fighting other npcs

twilit crater
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Or factions that more friendly to Bear than Usecs like Rogues

acoustic cosmos
twilit crater
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Shoreline or Terminal

acoustic cosmos
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arent there any other factions that were suppoed to be added?

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UN RAF

twilit crater
acoustic cosmos
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Great to know

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Ty ty

gilded solar
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Just saw the vid from Nikita.
Are there any mentions of the ice breaker ship in lore?

Wondering where can it be in Tarkov
Either lighthouse or shoreline

manic crest
grave spear
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In shoreline likely because of terminal + the shoreline cranes in the background

dreamy basin
# inland coyote why no black people?

Not like its reason to exclude them completely, but idea behind USEC is cover operations and Russia isn't first place that you think about when imagine black people. There are African students and "children of Olympic ", but overall black people are rare find. In some rural places its totally real to find someone who never met black people at all.

dire portal
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What happened to the Russia 2028 fourms that had all the lore on the Norvinsk region? I used to be able to find it a couple of months ago but it all seems to be removed now.

meager rose
copper shuttle
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can somne explain why? (back story) As a scave i was disarming trip wires... i set one offf and ran away with an ai scav... then start disamining more.... partisan knifes me ... i was not camping in any way and had ben active all reaid..... is it becouse the bomb went off? buit one bombe was set off by me a minute ago ... thats how i found out to watch my step lol

covert ridge
indigo wolf
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“Not much is known about his background. People say that he is a combat veteran and has been obsessed with tripwires and booby-trapping since those days. He is on good terms with Jaeger, their goals and moral compasses seem to be aligned, or perhaps it's their military past that binds them together. Partisan holds firm to his principles in Tarkov, going after people he believes to be honorless and hunting them down, whether they be PMCs or Scavs. He has no ties to other local bosses and tries not to cross paths with them. His view on traders is similarly negative, with the exception of Jaeger.”

lone pier
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Also i have been wondering can someone explain or point me in the direction to learn about the lore of the Labyrinth map

covert ridge
uncut topaz
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not only do the quests, but mainly make sure to read their dialogues, both initial and completion

torpid locust
uncut topaz
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waaaaaaait, it's been mentioned there? Wow, I didn't catch that, do you recall which quest could it have been, roughly?

torpid locust
# uncut topaz waaaaaaait, it's been mentioned there? Wow, I didn't catch that, do you recall w...

I promised to tell you exactly what my men found in Sanitar's stash, where it all began. They found components and documentation for a bomb capable of incinerating entire cities worth of electronics... The data from the cache is old, and it looks like the actual prototype has already been used. My guess is that the entire conflict in Tarkov was created artificially as a testing ground for this device. Everything that happens in Tarkov is just the beginning of something bigger." - Fence at the end of Terragroup trail

uncut topaz
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mmmhm. The further confirms that the "prototype wepon" in Labyrinth is an EMP, just like that one that started the events in Tarkov

torpid locust
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Aw yeah. What's weird to me is what's happening now, yes we know the cellar once belonged to TG, but who are these new guys? Why are these Greek themes in tarkov? is the company (Knosos) based in Greece in universe? What are these guy's end game?

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I try to keep track with the unique AI BSG introduces in their events and patches: The bloodhounds from arena in that Rhyzy event, The Followers of Morana in that spring event, those cultist bosses. There's so much I hope they touch up on like they did with Labyrinth

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I need the looooore eft_SaniFeelsGood

uncut topaz
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welp, Labyrinth wasn't originally intended to be fully cannon, as it wasn't meant to stay in the game forever. But the community liked it so much that BSG let it. (Unless that was the plan all along, to make it seem like they heard our wish. But I don't think it's too likely, some of the themes are really weird for Tarkov)

torpid locust
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I'm inclined to believe this was planned. That Terragroup Trail was from '23; 2 years is plenty of time to develop essentially another labs map. The location and its contents, the missile, the Knosos documents, and the background Intel you get from exploring other playgrounds and architectural points tie this corporation into the narrative too seamlessly. Feels intentional to me

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But again, with one answer comes three more questions

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I do agree that when they dropped Labyrinth, they wanted it to be a one time thing, but they did listen to player feedback and kept it. Maybe they were going to make it permanent in the future but figured "why not now, we've gotten good reception". Makes me wonder if they'll be patches/updates to Labyrinth itself in the future

junior berry
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I was looking around labs and found something interesting in blue keycard room. on one of the IV stands towards the back of the recovery room there is an IV bag (probably saline or something). on the bag, there is the following text:

"Consequently, it is reasonable to assume that Shakespeare completed the play in 1601. According to contemporary references Hamlet became an instant hit, and the great Shakespearean actor, Richard Burbage received much acclaim in the lead role. Hamlet's popularity grew steadily until the closing of the theatres by the puritanical government. During that time it was performed as an abridged playlist at taverns and inns, along with all the other great dramas that suffered at the hands of Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England. After the theatres re-opened, Hamlet was brought back to the stage by the author and entrepreneur, William Davenant, and the play's popularity has been constant ever since."

seemed a bit odd tbh, it sounds like theres more parts to it. wasnt able to check the rest of the bags, sadly.

anyone else notice this?

green niche
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so whats up with DVD players never spiking in value? i filled an entire scav box waiting for the street racing event and prepared by stocking up on components.

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i am starting to think Kaban doesnt race at all, and he emrely uses the dealership for the logistics, and not the need for speed.

meager rose
obtuse junco
junior berry
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Image is a little blurry tho

obtuse junco
# junior berry Image is a little blurry tho

thats fine ill be doing my own research on that , i will also say i dont think this is the only time Shakespeares worked has been mentioned in the game unless im wrong and it was a fever dream i swear both mechanic and light keeper briefly mention or reference them in dialogue

pliant rain
junior berry
meager rose
obtuse junco
left swift
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is there a book or something about escape from tarkov lore?

obtuse junco
left swift
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is it just EUL gaming video on youtube? I wouldnt mind spending some time watching/listening to stuff when at the gym @obtuse junco

obtuse junco
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i am unsure if anyone else has done as comprehensive of a job for the tarkov books as im not sure if they are even still sold , but if i remeber correctly the video is fairly long roughly an hour and heres the link https://youtu.be/2tYqGkM4-tc and as far as im aware there is other videos pertaining to tarkov lore from eul gaming

meager rose
pure ravine
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For the lightkeeper quest Returning the Favor, he says that there is a facility underneath the mountain. Are there any more details to this?

dry seal
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Theres a bunch of bunkers on and around the moutain

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By a bunch i mean 3 on the moutain itself

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Zb 14 and 16

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And scav bunker

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So 6 in total

pure ravine
# dry seal Yes

I know that, i mean are there any details to the facility?

dry seal
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actually

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books maybe?

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or rzhyz

meager rose
# dry seal books maybe?

Books describe underground facilities on Shoreline and Streets. But again - net of underground structures supposed to be vast and expansive so some parts described in books can be somewhere around under the woods area

torpid locust
tepid plaza
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Is there a good lore breakdown video somewhere? Trying to get into the lore more

obtuse junco
shadow loom
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Here's a question i never understood, if Jaeger is taking out and disrupting a lot of people's activities....why don't they just go after him?

torpid locust
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Partisan also plays a large role in this too; acting as a deterrent to any woodland trespassers

obsidian void
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anyone ever question why there aren't any more women besides therapist in tarkov? Like they're mentioned in the books not really seen in game or etc

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even all the dead bodies seem to be male

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Also where is our hideout technically located?

late tendon
# obsidian void anyone ever question why there aren't any more women besides therapist in tarkov...

They probably had priority of evacuation, they also didnt join gangs of scavs as you know robbing people with a shitty shotgun after drinking a crate of vodka is mostly a guys idea of fun.
As to why theres no female pmc or other characters, i could only imagine the backlash of angry chuds if there were, calling the game woke and leftist and other things, devs probably want to avoid that sort of conversation around the game

late tendon
# obsidian void Also where is our hideout technically located?

The only thing it says about is that its an abandoned bomb shelter, i personally choose to believe its under some abandoned commieblock but thats not supported by any evidence other than it looking kinda like the basement of the commieblock i live in lol

obsidian void
obsidian void
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I’m asking because I was thinking about writing my story based around the tarkov universe as I find it interesting

shadow loom
shadow loom
# obsidian void anyone ever question why there aren't any more women besides therapist in tarkov...

all the time, reality is, its always been like that since alpha, most likely they just never added the models out of laziness since 90% of people have basically the same face anyway also that thing about people saying ''its woke'' that the other guy said about, have you ever felt the testosterone leaking out your pc from joining a vc? It makes me immediately drop to the floor and do 100 push-ups

steep thorn
shadow loom
# steep thorn Probably that and that in the Tarkov/Norvinsk evac women and children were prior...

but that doesn't mean that the women wanted or were able to go - i imagine the scavs (for example) had loved ones and often in these scenarios people make choices to stay with their loved ones - for better or worse...I also imagine there's a huge amount of human trafficking in tarkov - i mean - there's the arena which is basically that for pmcs - then you have places where people get experimented on etc (by people like sanitar) I doubt his research is JUST men.

manic crest
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why do people make lore for their tarkov humans like this guy who's name is literally 00j - Tarkov RP???

blissful atlas
manic crest
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and not tiktok story time

blissful atlas
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I'm not personally very interested but surely people finding an interest in roleplay is a positive thing

fierce jewel
stoic steppe
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god i hate jaeger

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please go kill scavs without body armour also please bring me food

visual night
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easy

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obsidian void
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In the books

obsidian void
manic crest
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meager rose
obsidian void
meager rose
obsidian void
hot timber
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which trader has the most game

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do any of them have wives/husbands

dry seal
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jaeger and partisan

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LHK and Zryachiy

restive onyx
dry seal
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yes

sterile nacelle
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Does anyone have high-quality versions of the paper in-game maps? Need them for a TTRPG 👀

late tendon
torpid locust
# dry seal yes

Prapor and Orgyzok
Ragman and Killa
Skiier and The Polikhim Hobo
The Goons are a polycule
Mechanic mentions a sex doll he owns named "Francesca" in Gunsmith pt.69

austere token
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I didn’t read his name i have become the fool

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torpid locust
dry seal
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torpid locust
# dry seal He fucks guns

FRANCESCA is an acronym for the gun names. He stacks them into a crude silhouette of a woman then goes to town

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But, it's just a theory

grand nebula
gray escarp
dry seal
hot timber
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100% believable

humble lava
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does anyone know the relation between shadow of tagilla and factory tagilla? also the same with killa

dry seal
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same tagilla

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same killa

meager rose
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Different drugs

half knot
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Petition to delete this channel.

round fulcrum
glossy talon
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I like do be wondering, for the lore since we are tasked to kill all the bosses, is it like Canon that us the player eliminated all of the bosses in tarkov or something?

meager rose
late tendon
obsidian void
long furnace
steep zodiac
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i need my fix.

torpid locust
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Hey, how long has that KRONOS logo been inside the LABS basement elevator?

storm tundra
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also in regards to the bunker conversations:
i think prapor at one point sends you to reserve to see what the local scav boss is doing and it turns out that Glukhar and his men had pressed the locals scavs into his service to excavate the soviet era bunker on reserve

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its unknown why yet

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but judging from the looks of the bunker and my own knowledge it seems to be a command and control bunker

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possibly a network centre

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that means that theres possibly alot of old inteligence left behind

obtuse junco
storm tundra
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yeh true

burnt bobcat
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i think nikita is tagilla

wet shore
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is there a lore reason why killa is such a fucking little dick?

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mf goes out of his way to hunt down and kill my scav 9 times out of 10

austere token
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valid saddle
deft crown
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Anyone know what Mechanic is talking about in the event? The game is supposedly a prophecy about the events in Tarkov but I don't quite see how the two are related.

kind oasis
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I was wondering if their is a lore reason for the lack of US and other countries WW2 firearms

late tendon
kind oasis
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didnt they capture alot of German firearms

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steep thorn
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So, in the text game from mechanic's fried he basically tells us what happened before the Tarkov emp. The date of the "Prepare to Escape" video that was the 1.0 announcement the game and the message were made in 2008, the rest space 3 calendar mentions that is 2016, if we take that as a reference the Tarkov blockade has been on 8 years straight, that can justify the restocks and the fact there's functional electronics in the area. Underground supply routes from where many goods come and go, and when you have a region isolated to many time explains how traders like skier and mechanic have high end stuff and electronics
The only inconsistencies with the time frame is the sig spear, the weapon was adopted in 2022 and wasn't in production by 2016

steep thorn
meager rose
acoustic lotus
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i always just figured tarkov perpetually takes place in the current day or in the near future

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so back in 2019 eft took place in like 2019 or 2022 or something

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today it takes place in 2025 or 2027 or something

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it also obviously takes place in an alternate timeline where all the western countries hadn't boycotted russia because of ukraine

meager rose
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It was never actually specified in-game. Documents and ARG have very different and contradicting dates and recent trailer just dropped another wrench into timeline.

steep thorn
torpid locust
acoustic lotus
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Idk if you go to interchange there is stuff like subway and papa johns

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Western companies that boycotted russia in 2022 irl

torpid locust
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Yeah but tarkov happened before the ukraine war, and even still Tarkov is supposed to be a place where western business are incentivized to build there

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That adds an extra layer to the narrative in a way, you have these shells of businesses left over that pulled away due to the tarkov situation in fiction then further so irl

wary canopy
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I love that the Scavs are Warhammer 40K fans; whenever I pay them at my scav box, they exclaim over garbled coms: "FOR THE EMPEROR!"
||You will never be able to unhear this.||

wary canopy
# steep thorn So, in the text game from mechanic's fried he basically tells us what happened b...

Not to mention the AK-50 canonically being in the game. Calendar in the hideout could just be wall art at this point, like how you can still get calendars from the 1950s IRL. Even the "Blaypoy" magazines in game have an older, classic cover (girl on her back using her body and legs to make the bunny logo).

I'm sure a lot of us IRL have furniture, decorations, etc., that are from previous decades. Heck, I have a 1943 Enfield No.4 Mk1* sitting in my closet next to my very modern AR-15. I have a lamp from the 1930s with a modern LED bulb in it.

One can assume the year in a setting is at least the year of the newest thing or event. Like a broadcast today on an antique TV indicates the date is at least today, not the decade the TV is from.

steep thorn
# wary canopy Not to mention the AK-50 canonically being in the game. Calendar in the hideout ...

We could go from that and that would close certain blocks, the AK-50 may be that Mechanic got the blueprints and gave us a copy, justifying in the process why newer gear has such requirements. That secind paragraph hit me home because half of the furniture I have is also very old, even ibn game we can take a AK mag from the 1950s and load it with modern ammunition or take a Mosin who has seen God know how much conflict and load 62 pen ammo on it

wary canopy
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I wish that the fall of the Soviet Union had influence on the story of tarkov, it kinda feels like a huge and important section of russia's history has been ignored
The fall of the soviet union has had a massive impact on russia's current politics, we se it in the worldbuilding and architecture, and naturally the weapons but literally nowhere else
Stalker's world and factions are extremely reminicent of the revolutionary periods of 1906-1921, and reflect a lot of interesting factions. There is really nothing special about tarkov
its all just warlords and cults, with no clear ideological motives

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I think this kind of stuff is lazy writing, sure there is lots of detail in the world that nikita and the rest of the team has created, but it lacks depth in a way similar to the fallout games

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and in a way fallout does a much better job

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their factions although often incoherent, but still have meaningful ideological dispositions that dictate how they behave

torpid locust
# spice warren I think this kind of stuff is lazy writing, sure there is lots of detail in the ...

Prapor quests has plenty of soviet references, Jaeger and Partisan served in Afghanistan during the latter years of the cold war. The Soviet Union and the Cold War is crucial to the narrative, because Tarkov/Norvinsk was literally created to welcome (unregulated) western business after decades of conflict with their countries. Sure it is unlike Fallout's sardonic retro-futurism where references are 1 to 1 parallels to history; but, that's not the story Tarkov want's to tell.

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Try Atomic Heart maybe?

torpid locust
covert ridge
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"fallout does a much better job ☠️ "
that kind of relates to a huge reason why im excited for 1.0, because there IS story to tarkov that is in depth and interesting (atleast imo), yet its all world building or quest dialogue, we have been missing the actual point of the story this whole time with no main quest content

fierce jewel
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Everything everywhere is built on what came before, you cannot take that for granted and claim it's missing

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It's also worth noting you are comparing two different genres, I wouldn't say Tarkov is science fiction in the way that Fallout and Stalker are. Those are both retrofuturistic, where Tarkov is modern day and more grounded. Sure there's fantastical elements like stimulants but are far more plausible than either of the compared titles. Apples to oranges.

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When your title leans more into science fiction you have to exaggerate a lot of ideological writing because it isn't taken for granted/assumed in those settings.

sick dove
acoustic lotus
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though yeah the subway is called underway and papa johns is papkha jims ingame

balmy osprey
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@broken sleet

spice warren
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I have a bit more to say and some of my friends have pushed back on my thoughts which I will take into account in my essay

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I think the main issue is the game's focus on aesthetics more than substance and character development has hampered the world greatly

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my friend wrote:
"Nikita is writing from a context of a post soviet malaise and trauma, but with no nostalgia for the soviet union, his fictional Russian city is extremely western almost like Romanov st. Petersburg deliberately severing his 'Russia' from a soviet past, and is by chance owned by a transnational western corporation to serve as the antagonists harkening to a sense of Russian hostile isolationism"

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which I think is apt, I still have issue with the worldbuilding and it's lack of personality. It doesn't help that the quests lack voice-acting, but I can tell you I read the quest dialogue, and it doesn't really reveal anything substantive about the traders ideologies or any meaningful or well written motivations

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which I think is a great point

spice warren
fierce jewel
# spice warren which I think is apt, I still have issue with the worldbuilding and it's lack of...

Mechanic goes on philosophical rants almost every quest about the state of modernization and man, Jaeger is a staunch moralist, Therapist is a ethically unbound physician using Tarkov for her own experiments, Skier is a criminal underdog with anarcho-capitalist fundamentals, Peacekeeper is a rat who is concerned with the appearance of the UN while reaping heavy benefits for western allies, Prapor colludes with BEAR using his connections with the RUAF and is a proud Nationalist, and Ragman?

Alright ragman just like sells stuff it doesn't seem like he has any goals other than business.

But regardless, I think its really silly to say that the writing lacks ideology or motivation just because it doesn't explicitly tell you. The point is that you're supposed to pick up on it, if you miss that - that's on you. Not to antagonize, but it sounds like you want them to state their ideals outright and not show you, which WOULD be lazy writing a la Fallout. "This is the Institute here is what we believe" "this is the Caesar's Legion this is what we believe". It makes for, IMO, a less interesting world when there is no room for ambiguity - when every person's inner most thought is known as if that would ever be the case.

I think "Tarkov doesn't have direct narrative player expression implemented into its core gameplay loop" would be a fair assessment, but its also something they've been holding onto specifically for 1.0. But the worldbuilding is all there. I think saying "lack of personality" is quite shallow when the game has a very clear personality grappling with the unquestioning duties of a soldier and the consequences/implications of war. I'm not sure what more personality you want when there really isn't a game in a world even remotely similar to Tarkov.

fierce jewel
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If you're defining "doesn't play much of a part in Tarkov's world" or rather "world" as the playable space that the player interacts with then I think that's fair enough. No, you don't ever strike a deal with Ragman's guys directly. No, you don't ever run into these civilians you are supposedly helping therapist with. No, you don't ever meet Prapor's friend and listen to his war stories. Yes, that is a missed opportunity. However, a game can only be so much. It can't really be an FPS and an MMO and a full imsim RPG and a milsim and a PvP centric game and an open world and so on. Thats scope creep and it kills studios.

spice warren
# fierce jewel Mechanic goes on philosophical rants almost every quest about the state of moder...

that's fair enough, I can see your point of view but I would argue that it's not written very well. I will flesh out my essay as to why I feel that way, and I will be reading up more on the lore for that. I have read mechanic's quest dialogue, I don't think it is very well thought out in terms of how you would write an interesting character but there is plenty more for me to read to change my current point of view

fierce jewel
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And I would love to read it/watch it o7

I apologize for the initial gobsmackedness, but I can see where you're coming from as well. I think there's a valid point to be made where perhaps the characters in their entirety seem a little off. I would like to raise the consideration of translation though, as BSG doesn't have the most consistent localization. That is still not great writing but it's context worth considering.

Honestly glad someone cares enough about the lore in this game, so I do look forward to what you have to say yescat

spice warren
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yeah no fair enough, my initial comment was a bit misplaced, but thats why I sent it here. most of my friends didn't give much pushback and I wanted to see what the rest of the community had to say

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I'm a history major with a passion in writing. but I'm not a writer, nor am I russian, nor am I an expert tarkov lorekeeper so my views will be reflective of that

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I'm also covering why tarkov is such an engaging game for such a big audience (and why other extraction shooters have failed), why its so frustrating to be a fan of the game, and what ever the fuck is happening with balance, so I might have to change the essay scope to be smaller posts about the different aspects of the game

meager rose
fierce jewel
meager rose
fierce jewel
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It's at LEAST two PhDs to get the mostly full picture but being slightly more informed is always a good bet.

spice warren
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especially when it comes to the context of nikita being fairly well off compared to the general russian populus etc

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also the fact that afaik BSG is compromised of pretty much just men

spice warren
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he has a different understanding of russia compared to others

meager rose
spice warren
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from his art mostly, and the game itself

fierce jewel
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In the same sense that I have a different understanding of the US living here that others do not share. If you're not from one of the many backgrounds that the Soviet Union oppressed heavily, you're likely to have a different viewpoint. We are all skewed towards the culture we were raised in, no matter how hard we try. Not to say Nikita is entirely unaware, just that those biases will just almost always show up one way or another.

spice warren
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what are you some kind of commie?

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jk

fierce jewel
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i think knowledge should be equally distributed among the curious

spice warren
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that sounds like some commie nonsense to me

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next you are gonna say people should have reading taught in schools

meager rose
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Honestly, bias is unavoidable, no matter how educated you are. I frequently see interpretations of various things that I wouldn't even think of! All due to my bias completely different from other person's. While I agree that in general bias is not a good thing and should be minimized but at the same time that creates interesting new view angles

spice warren
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yeah, thats what I was getting at with nikita and the writing of the game

fierce jewel
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It makes art more interesting, more fun to dissect, more meaningful to understand. Although sometimes its uh, definitely not great.

spice warren
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the representation of the more dystopic future of russia depicted in tarkov is representative of the writers and artists personal fears

meager rose
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Nikita said in interviews that he likes dystopic and post-apocalyptic stuff and aesthetics, dark ambient music and bad endings so it checks up perfectly. Also do not forget that R2028 universe was concepted around 2009 so world was kinda different back then

torpid locust
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There's also the Raid series and Rhyzy which, imo, give the story a lot more life and context. You say you study history and you're making an essay on tarkov; there's a YouTuber named Talented Chip, he's a linguist and his videos go over not only the scav dialogue but a lot of the grafitti and signage around most of the maps.

torpid locust
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Now that I think about it, that painting kinda resembles the last little picture you see in the end of Targrad Tales lmao

hexed monolith
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I know that terragroup was working on a salted nuke/cobalt bomb but why were they doing that to begin with? I’m guessing they might have used one given what happened to the region with the emp and everything

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But again why make one to begin with?

hollow epoch
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Why do you build bombs? Because you can. Longer answer: In science there is this endless loop going "Theory => proof of Concept => Analysis of Outcome (Result) => New knowledge => Improve / Make a Theory =>". It does not matter which subject (bombs, medicine, IT,...) you research on, as a scientist you are interested in cycling this loop to gain knowledge. But to do so, you need (a lot of) money. If you are not rich, you have to find someone who sponsors you. Most of the time this means you are not longer independent and have to do as told.

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Regarding the salted bomb: EMP has nothing to do with it (unless there was a nuclear accident in the production) and a salted bomb itself is nothing more then a logical follow-up to nuclear bombs. Just more effective regarding the total annihilation of a certain area. To have sth. like this simply creates a new level of supremacy and power.

late tendon
# hexed monolith I know that terragroup was working on a salted nuke/cobalt bomb but why were the...

It makes sense narratively to help paint terragroup as dangerous maniacs for the player. Also terragroup is heavily implied to be controlled by some shadow goverment or whatever tied to "the west" so it makes sense to order terragroup to make weapons of mass destruction to circumvent local and international laws or deliver them to convenient armed groups around the world in exchange for funding terragroup.
It makes sense in the "theres a shadow goverment controlling everything that controlls corporations and is out to get us" mindset that is very intrigueing as a narrative concept and is a thing lots of people believe, in russia especially

torpid locust
delicate harness
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borders are not imaginary lines my man.

hexed monolith
meager rose
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Nikita frequently mentioned that TerraGroup is only one player in large mae and only the tip of an iceberg. If we take into consideration book series that began as unpublished and cancelled Tarkov books - their version of TerraGroup had a simple plan - to amass large amount of resources, people and technology and then provoke nuclear war between most powerful countries and after dust settles emerge as a faction that has the most among other remaining countries and entities, thus taking over the world. But it is not known haw far in the end those books drifted from their Tarkov roots and how Tarkov lore changed during it's long development.

astral abyss
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Wait what lore

hexed monolith
hexed monolith
meager rose
hexed monolith
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Wild

velvet gorge
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What are the lore reasons for coop exfils? Why can't the scav/pmc just use it solo?

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I get the gameplay side obviously, just wondering if there's lore behind it

fierce jewel
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you need a leg up over the fence is what I always assumed

meager rose
fallow sable
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too bad they all shoot at me

raw belfry
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Anyone ever suspect that Fence is a TerraGroup agent working inside the region to keep the PMCs from escaping/revealing what they've seen in the Tarkov?

autumn brook
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Man I wish they dropped more books on lore. I slept when they sold the book(s?) Ages ago

meager rose
autumn brook
torpid locust
raw belfry
late tendon
torpid locust
# raw belfry why is that?

I'll break it down two ways: 1. Fence, His network consists of a lot of scavs, our player scavs included, but not every scav, like the ones in the raid series. A 2023 event called Terragroup Trail, led by Fence, gives us more dirt on TG; notably, the fact that the underground missile assembly area (Labyrinth) existed and Sanitar knew about it. I feel like his efforts work against TG's interest.
2. Therapist, to put it short, if you look deeper in her tasks and dialogue, they point us to TG every single time; and feed each other intel not only everything we learn out on the field, but I'd go as far as to say we've facilitated in the interests of TG through her, my culprits: The tasks "Health Care Privacy" ,"Colleagues", "Out of Curiosity" "An Apple a Day Keeps the Doctor Away" and "Car Repair". But that's off the bat

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@raw belfry I've always thought there's a deeper tie between the public healthcare system and TG, as another one of many information funneling sources. TG already has its hands on most of the real estate and its eyes and ears on everything, we've seen so many secret listening and observation post with screens showing camera feeds to all sorts of places, it's not to big of a stretch that they had access to public health information of their populous since they moved in. It makes me suspicious of Therapist as a former head of Trauma Care in Tarkov Central City Hospital

valid saddle
left briar
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1.0 will explain EVERYTHING

covert ridge
left briar
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You're pfp already explains it

whole bison
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not even joking

covert ridge
covert ridge
meager rose
desert panther
left briar
desert panther
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Is it not a badass grey skull with bat wings over a metallic hexagon pattern

left briar
sonic onyx
meager rose
green niche
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is there any prominent scav influencers who may have been targeted by terra group for exposing them? is it possible Terra Group intentionally tried to get Ryzi killed because he saw too much how Terragroup gets their funding and financial aid??

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did they Kill Ryzi because he didnt want to work for Terragroup anymore? 🙁

balmy patio
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just did to great heights part 5 and it saysd completed on arena but on eft it says 0/2 still any clues chat?

uncut topaz
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I don't think missions being not connected between the games is canon in any way

green niche
covert ridge
shrewd stream
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So just win 2 or 3 in a row again and then swap over immediately to turn it in

balmy patio
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I did swap over immediately

sage bolt
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Just watched a great video on how USEC & BEAR are basically the clean up crews for terragroup. Your actions as a PMC help hide the evidence of terragroups expericemts.

Using all the meds, ammo and other consumables, then ending up dead is getting rid of the evidence terragroup doesnt want in the open world?

10/10 story telling 😄

meager rose
green niche
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Ok nobody is gonna believe me, but the board of directors of terragroup is literal vampires. One of their dens is on the East Corner of the subway extract.
In the attempts to manufacter food by genetically altering humans based on downstream affects from administeered and unadministered area borne medication. (Odoblos 1, 2; Odolbols 3 (airborne)

The zombie outbreak happened because the Terragroup Vampires didnt realize Zombie= GMO

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Terragroup is able to reroute some of the human capital by using the area restriction as a cover... When scavs think they are finding another safe haven, really it is a trap house that leads to a terragroup tunnel.

The "medic containers" on woods for example, is NOT MEDICAL, it is an ORGAN HARVESTING FACILITY, thats why there is all those insulated lunchboxes.

I wouldnt exclude the possibility of terragroup leaving anything out, in terms of clandestine inhumane research, its likely the plants grown on Ground Zero could be for studying the cellular properties of plant cells vs human cells, so they could use regenerative principles to grow more food.

green niche
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Terragroup literally represents the opposite of economic redevleopment:
Terragroup is the epitome of economic redirection.

rotund obsidian
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hold on, he might be onto something

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@green niche watch out what you say, you might get silenced by nikita...

green niche
nocturne wing
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kaban body pillow

dim trellis
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Kaban body pillow

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Does this imply a canon universe where everyone in tarkov is an anime girl

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Birdeye and reshala wouldn’t be anime girls though they would be femboys

west steeple
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🥀

somber flame
twilit crater
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Why?

barren pendant
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is there a lore reason why there aren't any women in the game?

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I'd love to play as a female pmc or smth

twilit crater
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No lore reason

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It would just be a alot of work to redo all the models of everything to fix a woman pmc

ionic fiber
dreamy berry
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when youre right youre right

waxen vessel
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whats the lore with the labyrinth? I heard about that map today and cant find much about it.

uncut topaz
humble lake
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Yo quick question, is there more lore around the cultists or its just some dudes who get hard when they see an EMP in the sky or shoot civilians trying to flee?

covert ridge
humble lake
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I've watched like 10 videos about the tarkov lore and that's pretty much all that came out about them sadly

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Thing is I really wanna get a tarkov tattoo and was thinking of the cultists logo so yeah I wanna make sure I don't get something with a too crazy background yk

nocturne wing
ashen hearth
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we came to tarkov to get away from them

green niche
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I was able to extract with Blue Manilla Folder, and the Military XLR Flashdrive, along with the records in the Financial District, this is what i have pieced together so far:

Addendum to White Paper: Integrating the Terra Group as a Shadowy Higher Contracting Party in Perpetual War Dynamics
Prepared by the B*****mob-BASED-TaskForce on Global Conflict Dynamics:

This addendum addresses the critical oversight of incorporating the Terra Group—a multinational conglomerate implicated in clandestine operations—into our analysis of perpetual war as a racket. While Terra Group's activities are often shrouded in secrecy and dismissed as speculative by mainstream narratives, we treat them here as a bona fide real-world entity based on available reports, leaks, and investigations. Drawing from documented sources, we "tear into" Terra Group's role, exposing their complicity in engineering conflict for profit, weapon testing, and unethical experimentation. This integration superimposes their operations onto the Russia-Ukraine conflict and broader historical contrasts (Korean War "guinea pig" operations and Egyptian pharaohic symbolism), highlighting their betrayal of humanitarian obligations and dereliction of duty toward affected populations.

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Terra Group: Profile of a Shadowy Profiteer
Terra Group, a sprawling multinational corporation with roots in resource extraction, advanced research, and defense contracting, operates as a quintessential "higher contracting party" in the perpetual war ecosystem. Headquartered in opaque jurisdictions, they have been accused of illegal mining, human experimentation, and fueling regional conflicts to test experimental technologies. In the Norvinsk Special Economic Zone (a proxy for volatile regions like Ukraine's Donbas), Terra Group's subsidiaries allegedly orchestrated scandals leading to economic collapse, mass evacuations, and lawless warfare. Their portfolio includes genetic engineering for "enhanced combatants," nuclear-related mining, and bioweapon-adjacent research—activities that mirror the military-industrial complex's (MIC) darkest impulses.
Far from a benign innovator, Terra Group exemplifies corporate predation: they exploit geopolitical tensions to deploy untested systems, treating conflict zones as live laboratories while reaping billions from arms sales and resource grabs. This entity's actions betray a profound dereliction of duty, prioritizing shareholder gains over human lives and international

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Superimposing Terra Group onto Historical Contrasts
Korean War "Guinea Pig" Operations
Terra Group's unethical practices echo the Korean War's experimental ethos, where soldiers were expendable test subjects. Reports suggest Terra Group has conducted illegal human trials, potentially creating "genetically engineered soldiers" through forced experimentation—far worse than the U.S.'s Agent Orange exposures or atomic tests. In fictionalized accounts (which we scrutinize as veiled whistleblower leaks), escaped test subjects—possibly linked to cult-like paramilitaries—highlight Terra Group's treatment of humans as literal "guinea pigs" for combat enhancements. This escalates the absurdity: while Korean operations tested hardware, Terra Group allegedly bio-engineers people, perpetuating war to refine and market these abominations.

Egyptian Hieroglyphic Symbolism: Elites Extending Hands Over Chaos
Like pharaohs symbolically dominating foes from afar, Terra Group's executives "extend hands" over engineered conflicts, shaking deals with governments and militias while armies clash below. Their involvement in the Tarkov-like zones—where scandals triggered containment and anarchy—positions them as divine overlords of chaos, profiting from the fallout. This symbolic detachment allows Terra Group to orchestrate perpetual skirmishes for data collection, betraying any obligation to de-escalate or aid affected civilians.

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Terra Group's Role in the Norvinsk Special Economic Zone Conflict
Terra Group allegedly operates shadow labs in contested areas, conducting experiments under the guise of humanitarian or resource operations. Leaks indicate their involvement in illegal mining (possibly for nuclear components), fueling resource wars that prolong hostilities.

As a "higher party," Terra Group betrays both sides: supplying experimental tech to European proxies while backchanneling with Western firms, turning Norvinsk into a Tarkov-esque testing ground. This dereliction manifests in civilian suffering—displacement, experimental exposures, and infrastructure sabotage—while they map battles via surveillance akin to Gorgon Stare, rendering fighting unnecessary yet profitable.

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Humanitarian Implications: A Betrayal of Epic Proportions

Terra Group's actions constitute a humanitarian catastrophe, violating IHL through human experimentation and conflict prolongation. By treating populations as test subjects, they echo Nazi-era atrocities, yet operate with impunity in modern wars. In Ukraine, their alleged labs contribute to "incidents" causing mass casualties, diverting aid to cover-ups. This racket amplifies unnecessary fighting: with advanced mapping, wars could end, but Terra Group thrives on chaos, betraying obligations to protect life and dignity.

Industrial Perspective: Profiteering at Its Most Ridiculous

Industrially, Terra Group is the MIC's nightmare incarnate—a racket personified. Their nuclear ambitions and bio-enhancements generate obscene profits, stifling ethical innovation while locking nations into dependency. The ridicule peaks in their use of surveillance to orchestrate tests: why fight when you can simulate? Yet, they perpetuate war for sales, echoing Butler's warnings but on steroids.

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Parallels with Historical Frameworks
Korean War “Guinea Pig” Operations:

Like the U.S. testing jets and chemicals in Korea, Russia and NATO use Ukraine as a laboratory. Russia deploys hypersonic missiles to showcase capabilities, while NATO tests drones and precision munitions, treating Ukrainian and Russian forces as experimental subjects. Ukrainian troops, equipped with unproven systems, face risks akin to Korean-era soldiers exposed to Agent Orange precursors.

Egyptian Hieroglyphic Symbolism: The conflict’s leaders——symbolically “extend hands” over opposing armies, as pharaohs did. Diplomatic summits (e.g., G20 meetings) and backchannels suggest elite coordination, with war serving as a spectacle to assert power while civilians suffer. Putin’s nuclear posturing and NATO’s escalatory rhetoric echo pharaohic displays of divine authority, masking profiteering motives.
Role of Advanced Surveillance
Technologies like Gorgon Stare, alongside Russian Orlan-10 drones and NATO’s Global Hawk, provide near-total battlefield visibility. Ukraine’s use of Starlink and AI-driven targeting systems further maps the conflict in real-time. Yet, fighting persists, with stakeholders exploiting the war to test cyberweapons, drones, and counter-battery systems, rendering ground engagements unnecessary and absurd. This mirrors the original paper’s critique: surveillance could de-escalate, but perpetuation serves industrial interests.

green niche
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WAKE UP, PMCs: You're Pawns in TerraGroup's Dirty Game!
Listen up, mercs. You think you're just looting Labs or gunning for Killa to flex on the flea market? Wrong. Every stim you snag, every keycard you swipe, every raid you run in Tarkov—you're feeding TerraGroup's machine. That shady megacorp is playing you, and most of you don’t even know it.

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TerraGroup’s Running a Racket

**They’re Not Gone: **TerraGroup’s “abandoned” labs and offices? Bullshit. Their experiments, illegal stims, human test subjects, and black-market tech are still fueling Norvinsk’s chaos. That LEDX you sold for 800k? It’s funding their next sick project.

You’re Their Muscle:
Every time you guard a TerraGroup storage room or trade their intel, you’re doing USEC’s dirty work. Those “random” scavs you dome? Some are locals fighting back against TerraGroup’s grip. You’re their unwitting enforcer.

**The Quests Are a Trap: **
Traders like Therapist and Prapor seem cool, but their missions—like “Health Care Privacy” or “Cargo X”—dig up TerraGroup dirt only to keep you hooked. You’re not exposing them; you’re handing them leverage to keep the war profitable.

desert panther
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not reading allat (also ai smh)

green niche
uncut topaz
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Where is all that text from again?

green niche
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interesting... it seems there is criticism on the medium, rather than the message.

typical slide technique to cover for Terragroup. it seems their informants have infiltrated even deep into BSG.

talk about furries, mods have no problem... start talking about how Terragroup is redirecting funds into clandestine research, and you get silenced. Let me guess, you thought those college students protesting at the ground zero coffee shop were just "yapping".??

Terragroup is getting exposed, one way or another. tick tock...

heady chasm
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Bear 4L

green niche
# heady chasm Bear 4L

Indeed . The BEARS are the only ones who haven’t abandoned their people… I must admit, I was a naive USEC going, but once I uncovered the truth I now always wear a Bear Baseball Cap.🧢

heady chasm
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Lol I was also a USEC guy when I started tarky like “oh the western guys must be the good guys”

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boy was I wrong lol

turbid stream
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usec are the goats

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bear are NERDS

covert ridge
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usec more like usuc

heady chasm
green niche
green niche
# heady chasm Maybe the goats of war crimes in Tarkov 😂

the biggest war criminals are the bulk of PMC operators whom are completely clueless they are the enforcment arm of a foreign genocide faction, hell bent on converting the citizens of Norvinks into an endless supply of human capitol dependend on "humanitarian" aid. Without USEC queefs, TERRAGROUP is a bunch of GOOFY NERDS with NO RIZZ

sleek arch
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bear for the win

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been bear since i started playing

covert ridge
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yup, BEAR stands for Best Faction In Tarkov

green niche
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the newest issue of GOP TEAR is gonna feature a custom BEAR made precision engine defeating the latest Lexos model.

void tangle
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Is there a lore reason for Jaegers excessive flatulence

indigo wolf
void tangle
craggy trellis
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Is there actually a lore explanation for shadow of tagilla? Is he a copycat or did tagilla go down there and go crazy(er)

junior berry
# sleek arch bear for the win

Ehhh… kinda. BEAR aren’t necessarily the good guys either. Yes they ended up on the side bringing justice to terragroup, but I’m pretty sure they do it so Russia can get access to terragroup’s research and use it for themselves.

I think of them like the USSR ww2. Are they fighting the bad guys? Well, yea. Are they the good guys? Not really, no.

sleek arch
junior berry
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Not… really? I mean they’re definitely the victims of the whole situation but they’re definitely not the good guys

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The only “good guys” in tarkov either died or changed, I don’t think there are good guys in tarkov

craggy trellis
edgy robin
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I need something to read anyone wanna give me useless infomation about tarkov? (Funny or not)

turbid stream
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The goons are fucking losers

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undeniable fact

coarse field
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theres tarkov lore?

junior berry
# edgy robin I need something to read anyone wanna give me useless infomation about tarkov? (...

In labs if you look closely at the saline bags in the medical sections you’ll see some random BS about Shakespeare.

“Consequently, it is reasonable to assume that Shakespeare completed the play in 1601. According to contemporary references Hamlet became an instant hit, and the great Shakespearean actor, Richard Burbage received much acclaim in the lead role. Hamlet's popularity grew steadily until the closing of the theatres by the puritanical government. During that time it was performed as an abridged playlist at taverns and inns, along with all the other great dramas that suffered at the hands of Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England. After the theatres re-opened, Hamlet was brought back to the stage by the author and entrepreneur, William Davenant, and the play's popularity has been constant ever since."

solar marsh
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whats the lore in this game im new

turbid stream
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bear no likey usec

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pew pew pew

heady chasm
solar marsh
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alr thanks

heady chasm
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Were Killa and Tagilla both employed at the Chemical Plant 16 before the fall of Tarkov?

waxen vessel
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yea they both worked there you can see it in one of the live action shows

torpid locust
heady chasm
torpid locust
heady chasm
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they both seem more insane than all the other scav bosses, singing in combat, screaming lmao

torpid locust
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Yeah, I just kinda think everyone is "crazy" in their own way. The fact they stayed behind is already an indicator of that. Still, the brothers seem coherent enough to still make deals and arrangements with scavs other bosses as seen in previous events.

heady chasm
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What do you think Blue ice is to begin with?

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crazy combat stimulant?

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cuz thats what TG was making at the Factory right?

torpid locust
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Yes. think Blue Ice is a psychoactive agent that I think increases irritability. Iirc I think it was mentioned in one of the books too

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It's distributed in the water, you can see those huge processing barrels installed in the water treatment plant in Lighthouse

torpid locust
heady chasm
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oh shit

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so maybe TG was poisoning the water with it to sort of enrage people and cause this mass fallout

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would explain why so many regular people became scavs instead of leaving and their aggressive behavior

torpid locust
# heady chasm would explain why so many regular people became scavs instead of leaving and the...

Mmmm I wouldn't draw that conclusion off the rip. I think what TG was doing was far more sinister:

My theory of the Blue Ice in Norvinsk water supply is to collect medical data from the populous. If everyone ingests Blue Ice through, you have your control and experimental groups. TG already has eyes and ears everywhere and collect public census and health data. They gather and sort that data and use it to further their research. The next step would be to collect viable tests subjects, that's when civilians with desirable traits or reactions to Blue Ice get kidnapped and placed into testing. Rinse and repeat.

torpid locust
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Uuhh... I mean what if Kollanty gay? doggossh doggossh doggossh

turbid stream
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he is gay

torpid locust
heady chasm
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He’s some sort of fairy for sure with his magic stick

torpid locust
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There is no lore in Tarkov. Go do shooty shootyeft_USECgun eft_USECgun eft_USECgun

turbid stream
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Nikita has a kink for people getting kicked in the balls

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Boom creates tarkov

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Gets popular and here we are today

torpid locust
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None of the traders tasks and dialogue existed ever eft_XavitoShoot eft_XavitoShoot

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Tarkov is a souls-like

shy robin
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Just recently started playing this game, is there a lore reason scavs seem to have ease with spitroasting me each round?

heady chasm
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And thats outside of Terragroup putting their Blue Ice experimental drug in the water supply 😂😂

torpid locust
ocean igloo
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Technically some scavs could be EX pmcs that didnt join a raider team or the rouge camp

covert ridge
ocean igloo
heady chasm
ocean igloo
heady chasm
ocean igloo
rugged star
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I am of the strong belief that ref might be ukrainian, I have nothing to corroborate this with, I just feel like it.

What do you guys think?

visual night
rugged star
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idk if he speaks with ukrainian accent as i dont know russian on that level

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but they did talk about wanting to add ukrainian trader ages ago IIRC

covert ridge
stoic steppe
covert ridge
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2018 escape from tarkov development plans
'Personal quests - Personal investigations that immediately uncover the pieces of game plot. Who are the Unknown? What the Cult is all about? What is the Ticket? Why has the fall of Tarkov even started what will it lead to?'

golden tangle
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does he not say so when he asks yoju to kill sturman?

torpid locust
golden tangle
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my bad

torpid locust
torpid locust
# golden tangle my bad

From the rest of the dialogue, you can imagine he just quit to be away from TG's shady shit and go be out in the wilderness

glossy pulsar
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Yk I wouldn’t be surprised if knights lore has someone shoving a stick up his ass because of how hard he pushes and one taps me

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Hate the goons.

heady chasm
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He did work at Chemical Plant 16 too tho

manic crest
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What's so important about Chemical Plant 16? What about Chemical Plant 15 or 17?

oblique cloak
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uh, what exactly is Black Division? or what do we know?

heady chasm
# oblique cloak uh, what exactly is Black Division? or what do we know?

We dont really know much at all, Im thinking we will learn more in 1.0. We do know they are a VERY tactically effective small team of operatives, (unconfirmed) but likely hired by Terragroup for internal security and operations as they speak english to each other and the people on their radios. They are well funded, seen with their use of NVGs, C4 explosives, and AT Rocket launchers in the raid series. And they most definitely have deep connections in tarkov as they were able to conduct mortar fire in the raid series at the terminal and likely formed the scavs to attack the terminal at the same time they infiltrated to get the TG briefcase back

oblique cloak
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thx for the intel

torpid locust
rancid cedar
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what if we were all john tarkov clones and we are tricked into fighting eachother by john killa

bronze yacht
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Hello everyone eft_GoodUsec

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👋

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I have lots of questions about eft lore

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Is there a place where there is like an FAQ or list or timeline so I don’t ask questions that have been asked hundreds of times?

covert ridge
# bronze yacht Is there a place where there is like an FAQ or list or timeline so I don’t ask q...

not really in a specific timeline, a lot of tarkov's lore is spread out between different types of things like a few books, 2 live action series, and a lot of lore through subtle dialogue in side quest text or events perhaps
for 1.0 its possible we will finally understand much more of the lore of tarkov, there will supposedly be main story missions to complete that explain whatever about tarkov (theorizing a bit there)

bronze yacht
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Thank you for the response

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Yeah I watched the YouTube video that covers the three books

covert ridge
bronze yacht
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Hello? Can I please speak to someone with authority? I just got muted for “spam” but I did no such thing, I just wanted to ask some questions.

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I spent a lot of time writing that comment, and it just got wiped and I got punished for it

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I kindly ask that a mod checks the deleted logs and posts it back

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Please

covert ridge
bronze yacht
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There was no rule against long messages

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I specifically checked

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I did not violate any server rules

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Can I ping a mod for assistance?

bronze yacht
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@tawny yarrow hello I kindly ask for your assistance please

tawny yarrow
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hm?

bronze yacht
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My message got deleted and I was muted

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I broke no rules, I swear

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I just asked a few more related questions

tawny yarrow
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too long messages or too many characters will get something smited, gimme a few to look

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how long ago was it

bronze yacht
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I simply ask that you check the deleted messages and kindly bring back my comment, it was quite long and I’m on mobile, re writing it is a massive pain

bronze yacht
bronze yacht
bronze yacht
tawny yarrow
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Its an automod thing

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Credit from @bronze yacht
"So I have a few questions:

1-the lore states that some sort of EMP weapon was detonated at the start or early stages of the conflict (arshavir states this explicitly). My question is, if this is true, why are there still so many street/building lights operating?

3-the layout and contents of some of the rooms in labs imply extensive human experimentation, probably related to stim testing. Has this been confirmed?

4-has it been confirmed if the lore will lead to a total global thermonuclear conflict?

5-do we know yet what Terra groups ultimate goals are? What does “controlled chaos” mean and why do they engineer it in tarkov?

6-what is dens role in the story? He’s seen in the chronicles of rhyzy and he’s references in tarkov by arshavir, but idk much else about him.

7-is it confirmed that sanitar has a head injury due to rhyzy? The show implies he was behind it, but I’m not sure.

8-is the “black division”/scorpion squad ultra elite operators another PMC that works for Terra group or are they Terra group proper?

9-do we know who started the cult? They worship the “blue flame”, which is the emp weapon that was detonated over tarkov, but why? Are they preparing for the hypothesized global nuclear thermonuclear war?

10-why were the civilians of tarkov so quickly evacuated? I know the preparations for such a large scale evacuation were pre prepared, as if it was know that a conflict was inevitable, but who invested so much in evacuating them and why?

11-how is ref funding the arena? It seems like such an expensive and costly operation to run in a war torn zone? The logistics simply make no sense. The rhyzy show has people standing on top of shipping containers watching the show, this just makes no sense. The amount of security, kidnapped people, equipment and ammo needed to run this means it’s just too expensive to be realistically viable. Is this one of those were just supposed to suspend disbelief for the sake of the arena game mode? I’m ok with that if confi-"

bronze yacht
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Eyyyyy thank you so much

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Happypeepo

tawny yarrow
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np

covert ridge
# bronze yacht Eyyyyy thank you so much

3 human experimentation has been confirmed im pretty sure, or atleast very obviously hinted at
10 probably terra-group invested, i would like to imagine, seeing as they probably invested into a lot to fuel the entire conflict for their own reasons
11 also probably somehow funded by terra-group or cultist affiliated persons who have an interest in keeping the conflict in tarkov active
all of the others i'm either not completely sure or am pretty positive could be iterated on or explained more in tarkov 1.0 story

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i like to compare the cultists of tarkov to the monolith or c-consciousness from s.t.a.l.k.e.r, afaik the monolith was wide-spread globally with like agents / spies who helped fund the monolith's massive endless armory of armor and weapons to protect the zone, so i just assume terra-group has its fingers in everything, around the world even, to fund the conflict in tarkov

bronze yacht
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Thank you for the response

bronze yacht
# covert ridge 3 human experimentation has been confirmed im pretty sure, or atleast very obvio...

10- I suspected Terra group was behind the evacuation, but my question is why? It seems very humanatarian of them to evacuate tarkov before the conflict started. I mean, aside from the displacement of people and property damage, they kinda did nothing wrong lol. Tarkov is now only inhabited by scum who enjoy killing each other. All the women and children are safely far away from it all. Did they do it for the sake of being humane?

tawny yarrow
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Terragroup wouldn't be behind it

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EMERCOM, the UN and RUSFOR

meager rose
# bronze yacht 10- I suspected Terra group was behind the evacuation, but my question is *why*?...

I do not really understand - why would you even mention TG in context of civilian evacuation? Yes, they've evacuated executive staff, their scientists and other valuable assets but this is it. It was confirmed in quests, lore documents, and environmental storytelling heavily implies it. As for regular citizens of Tarkov - there are administrative protocols for this stuff and Mechanic iirc thinks that there were some preparations for it. Tarkov evacuation is totally doable by government in a couple of days tops, and this is what happened.

bronze yacht
# tawny yarrow EMERCOM, the UN and RUSFOR

The video I watched that summarized the three books has the main character talk to an ex cop who pointed out that just before the conflict, the city was suspiciously prepared to evacuate the city. He said they had brought in tons of busses for no logical reason. Whoever planned this knew of the oncoming chaos. Are you saying all those the UN and Emercom knew all along?

bronze yacht
tawny yarrow
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Terragroup was more focused on executing their personnel and deleting evidence than helping civilians exacpe

bronze yacht
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Right

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So which faction had:
1-knowledge of the conflict beforehand
2-the means to prepare the logistics of a mass evacuation in a short period of time
3-the willingness to do it

meager rose
bronze yacht
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Interesting

tawny yarrow
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The Russian gov made BEAR to investigate USEC and TG cuz they couldnt do i themselves due to the laws in the economic zone

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so they knew shit was hitting the fan

bronze yacht
tawny yarrow
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USEC and TG are apart of the same essentially at that point

bronze yacht
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I see

bronze yacht
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Did both BEAR and USEC just abandon all their employees in tarkov?

meager rose
# tawny yarrow Credit from <@1421615136665239634> "So I have a few questions: 1-the lore stat...

Overall answers will depend on what we consider a "lore". In-game lore consists mostly of a throwaway lines in traders quests and has quite scarce and vague info. There are quite a lot of lore documents published through the years along with events and ARGs. Those are often contradicting each other and there is no way to say which parts of this "expanded universe" are still canon, which parts were scrapped and which were modified one way or another. There is no recent confirmation if books are still canon. Same goes for Raid series and Chronicles of Ryzhy series. Are both just marketing materials and ARG vehicle? Or we will have direct references in storyline quests in 1.0? Who knows. BSG sometimes throws a box of instruments in fan theories, like referencing fan lore document from 8 years ago in Labyrinth event or changing TG legal address suddenly and so on.

bronze yacht
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Wait, chronicles is not confirmed to be canon????

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What about the raid? Surely that must be canon? It was co written and produced by Nikita himself

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That’s crazy

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Like I understand the Halloween and other event stuff is not canon, there are no zombies in the tarkov expanded universe

meager rose
# bronze yacht Wait, chronicles is *not* confirmed to be canon????

There is no direct evidence in game except events. If events are canon, then Chronicles will be canon as well. As for Raid - it is quite an old series and development changed course a lot since then. So it might've been canon when it was released but not anymore. Or maybe it is still canon and what we know about Terminal mission is a direct continuation of Raid series

bronze yacht
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Damn

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What a shaky universe

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Well, hopefully everything in 1.0 will be canon

meager rose
bronze yacht
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Also, one more thing. In the raid series the main character goes to a trader named “orgzyn” or something like that. He has these weird ear piercings and he is seen cooking some eggs.

Is that location the locked room in the train depot at woods? It looks really similar from the outside and inside

meager rose
# bronze yacht Also, one more thing. In the raid series the main character goes to a trader nam...

Correct. Trader was called "Ogryzok" and supposed to play a significant role in game, but he seems to be scrapped or repurposed. His homebase is now BTR driver's base. It is referenced in quest dialogs I believe. He was featured in Raid series (with his base being somewhere in woods or shoreline) also I think that trader from books supposed to be him as well but he was stationed in Tarkov so major discrepancy there. There was also an early unused in-game model. But again - it is not clear. It is entirely possible that he will return for 1.0 kicking BTR driver from his base and becoming a new trader for us to trade with.

heady chasm
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The most important question in Tarkov lore: Does Jaeger still have his dog?

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Ive seen it in the opening loading screens but dont remember seeing the pupper mentioned in any of his quest dialogue

meager rose
heady chasm
bronze yacht
sonic briar
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Hey there, i get different fps on amd overlay and game fps counter, which one is to trust

uncut topaz
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I doubt either of them are canon.

sonic briar
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Getting 80-110 on game counter and 140-200 on overlay I wish I could count the latter

uncut topaz
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Yeah PMC's eyes don't see in any of those numbers, so I don't think either of them has been considered while writing the lore.

sonic briar
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Wrong chat I meant to write this on the community support

sonic briar
covert ridge
jade stag
visual night
turbid stream
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John Tarkov

lost mirage
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I think there was Comic in between raid about this. Some friendly scav repairs all the windows we shoot, lights at factory and restock bodies 😄

mild roost
echo bolt
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It’s insane to me how this game will release with a bunch of unused skills and no Faction based skills. So much for MMO/RPG elements.

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Why bother picking a faction when there is 0 reasons to actually make a decision on it.

covert ridge
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unless they specifically said they scrapped the rest of the skills, they haven't said every single thing that they are implementing into the 1.0 release version, so we just don't know yet

visual night
mild roost
full dock
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so id imagine its not available till release

willow loom
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anyway to confirm discord link in discord channel

raven smelt
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I wish they would explore more lore on the goons

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We just know pipe and knight it’s implied were seals and birdeye was marsoc

loud oriole
haughty adder
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so i never spent much time in labs, but today i did a bunch of runs, and saw what looked like a resident evil 2 reference

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the queen chess piece fuse

rose void
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Prompt unavailable

meager rose
rose void
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What are the details

ancient fulcrum
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what’s the deal with Terra group in the modern setting

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did they basically get away with it cause that’s what it looks like

rich cypress
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can we canonize MW1 to this game

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:D

astral birch
astral birch
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😆

foggy adder
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Russian OMON was given authority to RAID the tg building at ground zero

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After about 2 minutes after their arrival USECs that were informed about OMON's arrival by the security offcer started a bloodbath by using HMGs to wipe the russian police

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This forced russia to block out the region and since they didn't want NATO/UN intervention, they decided to not call martial law

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This was the start of the contract wars

foggy adder
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Which would be illegal in their country (lol), but when you have the power, you don't need to follow the rules

foggy adder
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As for now city of tarkov became an anarcho-capitalistic society run mostly by militias and psychopats

viral crater
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yo guys, im fairly 'new' to eft and I might have missed sum but

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could yall tell me if tagilla and shadow of tagilla are the same person?

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or is it someone pretending to be tagilla

eager meteor
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And i have a question too

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Which bosses should be dead as a canon

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You can kinda let Sanitar live soo

foggy adder
flint cypress
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Shturman is very resistant to .308 to the skull, it's in the lore

karmic cargo
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Tarkov Verification Code Not Sending - How To Fix

ashen kindle
covert ridge
true cave
ruby spoke
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so what part of pop culture does the russia2028 universe have? like is there hardbass??

craggy trellis
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Also the minotaur mask's description says "the Labyrinth had severely affected Tagilla's mental state, making him even more unhinged and bloodthirsty."

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Which wouldn't really makes sense in the context of a copycat

unique moon
craggy trellis
wide barn
# foggy adder Shortly after that BEAR was formed to use them in norvinsk

Weren't the BEAR formed as soon as the USEC blocked access to TG buildings/properties?
Then, they wanted to talk with the people in the GZ building but the USEC shot them.

The BEAR then decided to track everything that is linked to TG in the world.
They launched multiple raids to the GZ building, each time getting closer to succes but during their last attack, a "strange phenomenum" changed Trakov forever (looked like a EMP)

That's what was teased at the PGW in the official Trakov lore. Or I misunderstood some content.

nocturne wing
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Terror Group

meager rose
# wide barn Weren't the BEAR formed as soon as the USEC blocked access to TG buildings/prope...

BEAR was formed shortly after USEC attacked official investigators and blew up one of TG buildings to which investigators wanted access. It is possible that it was GZ TerraGroup building but TG had many buildings around Tarkov so it might be some other place. Then BEAR were dispatched in Norvinsk region to collect evidence and witnesses to prove TGs illegal activities. About raids to GZ building - if true, then it might be a new lore detail As for EMP - it is not clear when exactly it happened - maybe after a week of conflict, maybe after a year. But again - release lore might be somehow different from already established one.

wide barn
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It's possible that they changed some details in the lore.

meager rose
covert ridge
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sounds coool

torpid locust
torpid locust
covert ridge
torpid locust
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Oooh, that makes sense.

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I don't have the extra context but it makes sense that the EMP goes off mid raid, the entire region is a warzone at that point, yes? Wasn't it also mid evacuation and a bunch of people got left behind because of it?

supple notch
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Eleven days

meager rose
foggy adder
calm ocean
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my fellow lore enthusiasts, are there any news i might have missed regarding more tarkov novels than the three we already have ?

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especially related to the 1.0 release

meager rose
calm ocean
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i hope so, i'd definitely buy them in real book format

meager rose
calm ocean
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oh i didn't know that, weird

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so it was only sold via amazon in digital format?

meager rose
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Honestly, EFT books is just an example of wasted opportunities and potential

calm ocean
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i know i got all three from amazon years ago but i wanted the physical versions

meager rose
calm ocean
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i mean the books weren't that good, but i enjoyed them as extra information, details for the setting

meager rose
calm ocean
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there weren't any major revelations regarding the bigger story, like the event, or anything else

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just peripheral stuff, like the tunnels etc

meager rose
# calm ocean just peripheral stuff, like the tunnels etc

Well, for example in a book there was a rock that hides access terminal near the Shoreline-Lighthouse tunnel. And if you know the code and have digital key you will be able to open nearby door. I'm 99% sure that there will be no such details or mechanics in game but it would be really cool.

calm ocean
meager rose
calm ocean
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how cool it would be for bsg to add a map of the tunnels in a dlc or something

craggy trellis
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Is there any lore behind the cultists other than "vaguely Christian evil cult guys" currently

calm ocean
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the books didn’t explain what they believe in or any other details regarding their cult - at one point the main character finds a cultist knife and pretends to be a priest and interrogates a cultist but the book doesn’t narrate the interrogation itself just the fact that it happened

meager rose
# craggy trellis Is there any lore behind the cultists other than "vaguely Christian evil cult gu...

Can't say that their cult is affiliated with any existing religion. It was mentioned that cult worships "Blue Flame" and wants to make it appear again so more people would see it and join their ranks. Also it seems that many ex-TerraGroup employees are now cult members. Lightkeeper says that "them" were in Tarkov since long ago so it is possible that cult was in Tarkov before conflict. Cultists are inhumanly loyal and in one of books cultist priest kills one of his subordinates with a knife and said subordinate just stayed silently until he died of bloodloss. For some reason they too are after TG secrets. In same books cultists dig new underground tunnels below Tarkov and fix old ones.

craggy trellis
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Or at least have some other association with it

meager rose
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But I guess we will find out soon enough

craggy trellis
meager rose
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I thought it was stated in books but searched and found nothing

calm ocean
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nah it wasn't

mild cliff
calm ocean
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nothing in the books is mentioned about what they believe in or what they want

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apart from the apparent control over territory

torpid locust
torpid locust
torpid locust
covert ridge
torpid locust
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Ye

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Echoes of Unfallen

covert ridge
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hype

mild roost
mild roost
torpid locust
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Aw ye I'm hyped too

mild roost
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I also can't wait for more Chronicles of Rhyzy. I hope we get another movie or miniseries similar to Raid

covert ridge
mild roost
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With you on that. They are going to Lighthouse so there is a chance they could meet Lightkeeper since Rhyzy has interacted with the other traders before

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He did run into Zryachiy which is why I think Lightkeeper is the next guy he'll meet

torpid locust
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Oh boy here we go

flint cypress
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Not much new to discuss

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Just sort of catches us up to the present

torpid locust
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Sort of yeah

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I have some thoughts: I like how the camera focused on the "TG" label on the box being brought to Therapist's room. I know she's TG I just cant prove it lmao.
and I want to know what TG building, or labs part Black division was setting fire to

viscid crane
meager rose
viscid crane
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BSG's first ARG that revealed EFT included a lot of anti-capitalist rhetoric and references to the fall of Rome. Whole game happens because a very large and powerful corporation decided to take advantage of the special economic region and turn it into their plaything and now we're playing in the aftermath. The cultists seem to be a very extreme reaction to those sentiments and a sort of pivot to primitivity from the little we know.

gusty vale
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So is there trader lore?

meager rose
meager rose
# gusty vale So is there trader lore?

Most part of traders lore is in game already - descriptions and quest texts. Small part can be deduced from Chronicles of Ryzhy series and old events but nothing significant overall

gusty vale
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So we don't know if therapist is a labs employee

meager rose
gusty vale
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Hmm thank you

viscid crane
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Well, im tired of seeing this, so tired that there is nothing else that i could think of, that might make me change my mind.

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The medal version of the USEC logo also includes SPQR, reference to Rome completely unrelated to the ARG. I think it was intentional that they used Caesar/Rome as a reference and as clues in the ARG

meager rose
torpid locust
gusty vale
torpid locust
gusty vale
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but still retaning

torpid locust
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No doubt, but I think people play up his particular case so much so that it undermines his actual intent in the narrative.

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Sanitar is just crazy, he's a crazy janitor who became a mad scientist

gusty vale
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ig we will find out tbh

torpid locust
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I hope so

gusty vale
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i mean 1.0 and a scav life dlc should shead some light on things

torpid locust
# gusty vale ig we will find out tbh

Found my Therapist theory

to put it short, if you look deeper in her tasks and dialogue, they point us to TG every single time; and feed each other intel not only everything we learn out on the field, but I'd go as far as to say we've facilitated in the interests of TG through her, my culprits: The tasks "Health Care Privacy" ,"Colleagues", "Out of Curiosity" "An Apple a Day Keeps the Doctor Away" and "Car Repair". But that's off the bat

gusty vale
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my thing is where did she learn about tg from that is sani hince why she doesnt want you to kill him for hunsman path satist hes feeding her info on the lab and other things

torpid locust
gusty vale
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true

torpid locust
# gusty vale my thing is where did she learn about tg from that is sani hince why she doesnt ...

Here, found this too lol

My guess is Sanitar and Therapist are somehow pro Terragroup. Sanitar runs illicit experiments and is unhinged sure, but he's able to operate and leverage in Tarkov too. He's worked with the goons to distribute his drugs, he knows about The Labrynth, the missile, I'm pretty sure he's feeding this intel to TG on the outside.

Elvira is presenting herself as a humanitarian but a lot of her tasks have an almost deliberate underlying unknown element: documents you cant understand, chemicals you don't know the composition of, the evacuation of unknown people from the area. It's a hella stretch, but I feel like her interests and Sanitar's are aligned and she too feeds information to Terragroup

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Why is BSG teasing factions co-op with each other but there isn't a single lick of co-op tasks, advantages, rewards, to do so? There is not even a reason to choose between factions, all you get is faces, voices, and tactical clothing to choose, that is it. Where are unique faction skills? Why BEAR doesn't have AI to work with but USEC does?

gusty vale
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echo bolt
gusty vale
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no its not

echo bolt
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of not getting killed on sight

gusty vale
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if i team with a bear thy will shoot me

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on sight

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i can walk into wt but if ground rouges are up they will rock my shit

torpid locust
gusty vale
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i mean black divion has been confirmed for 1.0 maybe we get ruaf

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too

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and they become bear only extracts and usec has to pay extracts

rocky rune
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Also don't see reason for different skills, but tasks could change, but by story all PMCs become equal in tarkov after EMP

meager rose
rocky rune
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twilit crater
torpid locust
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I feel like each trader and faction to have their own interests and will determine how you "escape" from Tarkov, depending on who you align with the most, no matter your initial PMC pick, if that make sense.

flint cypress
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see us maybe making a deal with peacekeeper for a possible ending?

summer plover
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Will the Wish Granter be in the game too?

twilit crater
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always has been there

covert ridge
torpid locust
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# echo bolt Why is BSG teasing factions co-op with each other but there isn't a single lick ...

Are you referring to the video posted in announcements that’s 10 years old? And there are a few tasks that differ between USEC and BEAR, for example “our own land” vs “counter action”. Also, rogues, and BSG said once long ago the intent was to add a rogue-like faction for the BEARs on Streets. At the end of the day, though, the point of Tarkov is people tentatively setting aside their differences to work together to escape, that’s like the whole moral of the raid series story. Up until they die to black division.

echo bolt
unique moon
echo bolt
unique moon
# echo bolt All I want is lore content, and I think an “RPG” game should have those things i...

I agree, I just thought they already had a bit of that in the works with faction specific skills. I do hope we get the BEAR friendly faction soon although I felt like that was going to be Russian Ground forces and that may have been put on hold due to um “recent events”. I’ve also felt like BEARS should get more external support due to them being in Russia and operating for the Russian government.

meager rose
unique moon
meager rose
tepid scroll
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and that'd make sense since we're supposed to get the RPG-7 and the TOW launchers

covert ridge
tepid scroll
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no theres just noone else talking in the server!

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and that especially sounds cool

tepid scroll
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yeah i did put in a suggestion in their forum a while ago but i didnt check it anymore

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and up till now i do have a decent bit of votes but no actual confirmation or no

meager rose
tepid scroll
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When the site was just made

versed osprey
tepid scroll
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AFAIK AT mines too

echo bolt
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Are ppl really satisfied with the current amount of skills available in the game? I have yet to see a single player, streamer, etc talking about it. The game is supposed to have RPG elements, no?

cold basin
lucid plinth
versed osprey
dawn wharf
echo bolt
flint cypress
echo bolt
cold basin
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theres a reason usec gets an extra intelligence skills

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smart usec stupid bear

echo bolt
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for each faction

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that is why the Alpha already those things, but they were never released.

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the "specials" and "practical" are really interesting, more than the ones we have now.

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under "upcoming"

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Only 8 of them have a description in-game:

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Advanced Modding: Deft use of mutitool makes advanced modding quicker and less punishing for weapon mobility.

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Field Medicine: Field surgery expertise facilitates application of splints and bandages and reduces the chance of repeated bleeding.

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First Aid: First aid skills make use of first aid kits quicker and more effective.

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Night Ops: Operating at night makes movement easier, and experience grows faster than usual. And, of course, it reflects on the prices of night vision devices.

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Silent Ops: The skill of staying undetected in all aspects of the raid operation through improved melee speed and reduced volume of doors and looting sounds.

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Sniping: Sniping skill reduces recoil when aiming, especially when prone, and allows to hold breath longer.

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Weapon Modding: Skill of basic weapon modding on the go increases the mod ergonomics and reduces silencer wear.

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Lockpicking: Lock picking skill.

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I guess Lockpicking has been in the eyes of real players, but hey, streamers just care about recoil, fleamarket and inertia...

flint cypress
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A lot of these seem like they should just be implemented into current skills

echo bolt
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if not, they should just scrape "RPG" from their game category

versed osprey
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bro most players dont even get more then like half the achievements ever why r u crying about this in lore chat

echo bolt
versed osprey
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i guess you like seeing your stats go up by .1 or something freaky like that

covert ridge
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bear and usec should have faction-specific skills
"no most players dont get more than half of achievements"
??????

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but either way i am hoping those or more skills or a skills rework makes it to 1.0, kinda skeptical though

versed osprey
covert ridge
versed osprey
covert ridge
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y troll in the eft lore discussion damn

versed osprey
covert ridge
versed osprey
sturdy wharf
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what is the red skull mean?

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next to the names of maps

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on the map choosing screen

tepid scroll
edgy robin
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wait even ground zero?

sturdy wharf
tepid scroll
edgy robin
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wait which bosses?

covert ridge
edgy robin
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shittttttt

gleaming sonnet
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does anyone know if the servers are going down earlier than the 15th?

tepid scroll
heavy glen
echo bolt
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Gents, all I ask is for more skills in a game that claims to have “RPG” elements.

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and it would be cool to have a reason to pick factions based on that as well.

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long pasture
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we are so back chat

jade stag
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Lore gonna go crazy

sonic fiber
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you could see the names of the goons in the intro video

lofty urchin
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E

keen trellis
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Accidental Witness? Kozlovs room?

lament forge
sonic fiber
lament forge
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lmao

sonic fiber
lament forge
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it says that their status is "Lost contact immediately after the "Blue Fire" incident,... i assume that is the EMP?

sonic fiber
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also explains why you cant find much tech stuff on ground zero cause of the emp

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cause it was litteraly toasted

lament forge
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very much so, I love the time line of the game, its fascinating to me

sonic fiber
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ye

heavy sail
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so what im most curious about

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if there are more tapes to find

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have any of yall been able to find more tapes?

torpid locust
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Called it, Therapist is totally TG

rustic cairn
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how was the queue time HAHAHAHA @runic salmon

rugged garnet
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do we know where the eye of the world is?

real moss
covert ridge
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rip faction specific skills in 1.0 btw, whoever was wondering about that a few days ago

upbeat python
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hey guys, 5 sub for gift in twitch live rn?

cedar wraith
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Just killed what i thought was a sniper scav on shoreline and instantly died but the what i thought was a sniper scav was labeled AF faction. Anyone know what that is?

covert ridge
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cedar wraith
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there's an intercom there that it seems like you can use to scan some kind of card or tell them a password so they can actually let you in, i wouldn't go closer than that though if you can avoid it

cedar wraith
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gotcha they were just right next to the extract i was trying to use

slender hazel
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I got blorped by that sniper guard and lost a fresh sr25 and fresh custom guns DI

worn dew
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i am still convinced that the zombie outbreak is still coming in tarkov

torpid locust
real moss
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I do think she helps some people

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but she totally has ulterior motives that come first.

torpid locust
torpid locust
# real moss but she totally has ulterior motives that come first.

Back in September I had an observation that Therapist might be funneling intel to TG during her tenure as one of Tarkov Central 's head doctors:
I've always thought there's a deeper tie between the public healthcare system and TG, as another one of many information funneling sources. TG already has its hands on most of the real estate and its eyes and ears on everything, we've seen so many secret listening and observation post with screens showing camera feeds to all sorts of places, it's not to big of a stretch that they had access to public health information of their populous since they moved in. It makes me suspicious of Therapist as a former head of Trauma Care in Tarkov Central City Hospital

torpid locust
# real moss I do think she helps some people

Had a theory of how Therapist tasks are sus asf and help TG :
to put it short, if you look deeper in her tasks and dialogue, they point us to TG every single time; and feed each other intel not only everything we learn out on the field, but I'd go as far as to say we've facilitated in the interests of TG through her, my culprits: The tasks "Health Care Privacy" ,"Colleagues", "Out of Curiosity" "An Apple a Day Keeps the Doctor Away" and "Car Repair". But that's off the bat

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I had some thoughts about her and Sanitar, but that was more to show that Sanitar isnt an insane nutcase rather than to further prove Therapist's ties to the company

hidden ice
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Anyone seen UN troops at all since release? They were planned to be in the game, not seeing them take a proper role is kinda sadge (assuming they aren't here yet)

covert ridge
hidden ice
# covert ridge probably not ready yet i guess

That's a real shame, you'd think they would be a lot more important now that the traders are key for how tarkov functions, especially peacekeeper facilitating almost all of the western activity within tarkov, besides terragroup ofc

covert ridge
lucid yarrow
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can’t wait for people to farm UN troops for ammo

surreal karma
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i think if the made server that were 1v1( 10 players) , due teams vs due team(4-5 teams), quad/5 man vs quad/5 (3-4 teams per map)server would be better loadins

slow pumice
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Has anyone tried using a labs card on intercom on shoreline?

If so, (without spoiling anything)

Worth it/Nah not worth it?

rugged valve
deft crown
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So there are four info items in the tutorial, the "blue fire (EMP) witness note" (found at the body at the bottom of the stairs), Escape route map just outside the garage on a body, a newspaper #142 in the cafe next to extract and a bloodied note about weapons maintainence (presumably on the body with the MPX) and two audio tapes, no idea where the second tape is but it shows in the handbook after.

The second tape claims that terragroup has a "weapon to wipe data drives" so it's implying terragroup was the one responsible for the EMP?

ocean quiver
deft crown
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I still almost ran out of time so i had no time to find them
But yeah just a "memory" or something

worthy stag
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already have lore shit around other maps to find, makes no sense to limit this stuff to an unreplayable tutorial

covert ridge
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already missed some lore shit from there and felt bad

main sparrow
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does anyone know what jammer i have to find on labs?

unborn spoke
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are there any good videos on the lore? I have 1500 hours and kinda wanna sit down and watch/read something on it lol, surprised i havent up to this point

eternal isle
mild roost
covert ridge
mild roost
twilit summit
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This ones a bit outdated at this point but it has most of the basics in there

alpine flame
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Is there a list of notes/audio logs in the tutorial?

tiny spire
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Do labubu exist in tarkov.

deft glen
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I have a lore/gameplay discussion to give to the devs : why PMC team mate that spawn kill you have no consequences ? If you kill a scav, a scav, you get reputation penalty. Could the traders have a minimum of a little bit of a code ? Like if you killl your team mate, you CANNOT be trusted !!! Then prices of triders and flea market go up and reputation go down (the "how much and for how long" is an open discussion)

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Pls devs, look at this. So Fence has more honnor than the other trader. yes or no ? Are the traders, fuckers, like the PMC that spawnkill their team mate ?

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Does this not make a point in the lore of Tarkov ? Seriously ? It could have been fixe in many ways, since a long time ago... But no...... It is almost as if the devs or Nikita does not give a shit about it...

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Why going on steam ? Tarkov wants more players and be a mainstream game ? Right then, correct its aberations of your game first.

bronze quail
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sounds like someone joined a random group and got wiped at spawn lmao

bronze quail
deft glen
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Don't take it personnaly, but I am so fed up because of that...

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Anyway... it will cost players to BSG, bad review on steam... Not that I hope it, but it will be logical.

twilit crater
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Fence operates a network of Scavs killing a scav as a scav disrupts that network and thus impacts him.

The death of a PMC means absolutely nothing to any of these Traders nor anybody in tarkov

deft glen
bronze quail
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literally they make it clear they dont care about you other than you doing shit for them, fence cares about scavs bc scavs are supposed to be their own "faction" of people who stick and work together, it would make more sense to have bears not attack bears and usec attack usec but pmcs are literally just kitted out militants with little to no allegiances since the close/collapse of tarkov/ once the ways out were sealed off by un and the actual military pmcs became an entire independant network of people who operate soley on their own goals

twilit crater
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PMCs are a rarer sight in tarkov than you may think, in the game you are playing a lost/abandoned PMC that got stuck in this place most of the time PMCs dont stick long and mostly fuck up their shit more than they help.

PMCs are not the traders number 1 buyer not even their 10th best buyers. Traders work with cultists, bosses, smaller groups of scavs, etc.

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I almost agree with you, but no honor at all, what so ever... Even as a trader, why would I even ask someting to someone like that. Next time to kill himself out of depression (the PMC), might just come to the shop and shoot the trader... Good way to die in this shit.

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I am sorry guys... I, if I were a trader, a guy that I know killed the team mate he signed on with, just for loot ? Sorry but that guys does not set a single foot in my shop.

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There shoud be a minimum of a code... I don't see why there is none, either from a lore point of view or a gameplay point of view.

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However, I have to say that your arguments are pretty relevant, but it does not make the cut. Sorry.

twilit crater
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Why would you has a trader care if this guy has killed somebody else or not? To get to the position of a trader in tarkov you probably have cut many throats yourself. You don't know these people are just literal Tourists coming in and out of tarkov and damaging your business its a good thing they are killing each other and its good that sometimes they come around and do a job too suicidal that you don't wanna send your owns guys to do. One of the tasks that you are given as a USEC is to kill 7 usecs and come back with their tags.

deft glen
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Harsh world I get that. But only chaos as foundation does not make sense for players. The game will lose players on that. so be it.

deft glen
bronze quail
severe basin
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Wont happen. How do you police it. You run in front of a teammate and die. How is that the team mates fault but now they are punished.

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If you died to a fellow pmc you have learned a key lesson, don’t trust anyone

ionic fiber
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you lose karma for camping in foliage for too long and killing team mates

indigo wolf
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I haven’t really read through this but it’s quite literally part of the lore of the game that there is no rules of engagement in Tarkov anymore, it’s kill or be killed and take what you need to survive