pve-chat

[lethal sinew]

If ur down we could run after this reserve run few labs I can just clear the place for you
U can loot and take all the plates

[sharp obsidian]

afaik, nothing

[half spindle]

also i lied, i have 17 SSA AP, and 127 PAB-9 but thats it

[clever thunder]

we done escaped boys. back to freecell.

[mystic berry]

alright thanks i'll forget about it lol

[half spindle]

im down

[proud oak]

theres plates there?

[half spindle]

on his body

[lethal sinew]

tagilla lv6 plates

[proud oak]

ah yes SOT

[lethal sinew]

i can give som too

[proud oak]

if i remember the scavs dont have plates on

[lethal sinew]

can have

[sharp obsidian]

laby?

[lethal sinew]

the guards can have lv6 palte

[proud oak]

MFs running with hexgrids without plates

[sharp obsidian]

scavs can have, i had one with korund lvl 5 or some

[fleet loom]

dang i just found my 6th pfilter this week, the scavs giveth

[mystic berry]

they have ONE singular level 3 plate on the hexgrid

[sharp obsidian]

hexgrid with l6 i obliterated once

[marsh axle]

I just used my last Old House key use, not a single Tank Battery

[proud oak]

ah

[lethal sinew]

they allways have at least lv3 plate

[sharp obsidian]

old house toilet key

[proud oak]

maybe they chaged them

[sharp obsidian]

100% spawn

[lethal sinew]

what ur ign?

[proud oak]

been a while since i did a laby

[mystic berry]

Tried getting a reference figurine so I did like 15 laby run in the last few days and never seen a guard with tier 6. both bosses had good armor tho

[proud oak]

can you get those from flea or is it the craft only

[lethal sinew]

its rare they have but they can have

[mystic berry]

and they also tank igolnik like motherfuckers for some reason MAI ap was the way to go

[marsh axle]

[sharp obsidian]

cultist circle with a tank bat

[marsh axle]

Bruh

[proud oak]

yea i know that but i guess you cant get them from flea

[lethal sinew]

I once had shadow tagilla tank 2 clips of igolnik and 1 time lapua ap in the head xdd it was funny and unlucky

[sharp obsidian]

nope

[proud oak]

those rounds suck

[mystic berry]

at least vengeful killa is mostly a fast kill, can't imagine fighting two shadow tagillas

[proud oak]

338 ap probably one of the most inconsistent rounds of the game

[silver galleon]

What’s the difference between light and heavy armor? Except the durability and skill group? I’ve seen some videos declaring that heavy armor reduces or even ignore blunt damage but I have not found relevant info on wiki

[sullen forum]

Planning my next terminal run

[mystic berry]

I forgot the evidence case TWO times in a row on terminal

do not make the same mistake

[lethal sinew]

I constantly use igolnik and have no problem at all

[lethal sinew]

would be fun actully

event idea replace killa with another shadow tagilal

[mystic berry]

btw anyone found any reference figurines yet? can't find anywhere if they're still in the game

[lethal sinew]

hehehe

[mystic berry]

replace every guard with shadow tagilla

[lethal sinew]

I wouldn't mind that

[mystic berry]

would be interesting loot wise

but probably requires a few mags of igolnik and a lot of planning

[lethal sinew]

what planning?

take aggro shoot head done

[mystic berry]

idk if i'm bad but when I try to go in and shoot head I usually get tapped before I get enough shots in

[lethal sinew]

4 30 round of igolnik enough

[lethal sinew]

i just run in shoot fallback to my room and right hand peek if possible

done

[robust musk]

ok im even more confused do sensory analysis part 1 and 2 both complete after u hand in the moonshine?

[mystic berry]

you hand it over and then you press another button

something like 'OK'

then it completes

[robust musk]

i did that a while ago

yet its not showing in my completed task list

and the game isnt giving me keepers word

[mystic berry]

Must complete:
Sensory Analysis - Part 2
Hypotheses Testing
Vacate the Premises
Confidential Info
Indisputable Authority
This Tape Sucks

you done all of theses? for keepers word

[robust musk]

yes

sens part 1 is done

but part 2 doesnt show up in task list

yet i remember doing everything

[mystic berry]

have you tried going back to seeing BTR?

maybe it bugged

[robust musk]

ive been there many times since

imk way farther down his quest line now

i did this a while ago im level 44 now

[mystic berry]

just to be sure you did go and see lightkeeper for the quest right? and he didn't give you it?

[robust musk]

but im at the part in the story where I need lightkeeper and that allows for a shortcut

is it given to you through lightkeeper?

[mystic berry]

it is

keepers words is, not sensory analysis part 2

[robust musk]

yeah

ok so what im lookin at tells me if i completed all labyrinth tasks u get easier access to lk

i got that last wipe

now its not doin it

did they change it or sum?

[mystic berry]

I know you can get lightkeeper access with a main story task

Or batya? can't remembere

I did the classic way

[robust musk]

batya requires me to gain lk access

same with ticket

[split hull]

@sand cosmos did a reset after escaping so they'll know for sure. I remember them saying that they kept most of the cosmetic rewards but lost the item rewards and the savior badge on their character page. Also unsure if you'll still retroactively be rewarded the savior achievement in case BSG ever fixes it in the future

[mystic berry]

Thanks for the answer i'll hold off on reseting for now lol. maybe when they add prestige to PVE

[split hull]

Yeah same, I'm in no rush to do everything over again tbh

[mystic berry]

I love early questing so much lmao but also want to try and get all the achievements this time and some are annoying

[lethal sinew]

nikita said they will add something similar like prestige

[cursive abyss]

Welp went and killed sanitar anyway

[mystic berry]

not in the near future though from what I heard

[ivory hare]

When did he say that?

[lethal sinew]

when he had interview with pestily

[robust musk]

ok @mystic berry i figured it out

thanks for trying to help

[cursive abyss]

I like how some scav nearly fucking killed me because he critted me in the stomach

Very good game design

[robust musk]

bullets will do that

[cursive abyss]

Crit is such a stupid fucking mechanic

[robust musk]

what even is crit

[echo skiff]

fragmentation was removed eons ago

did he hit you in the unarmored groin

(which is connected to the stomach HP pool)

[cursive abyss]

Who knows, could be

[echo skiff]

there are armors with groin/buttocks aramid protection, which won't do anything for high piercing rifle rounds but it serves as good scav insurance meaning random slugs and buckshot won't black parts of you and force you to surgery

[orchid tundra]

....da fuq man push esc game bugged and server conn lost 2 min before times up... fix it .-..

[echo skiff]

as nicely as I can say it it sounds like you should read up on exactly how hitzones/HP pools work

most armors only protect the front of your chest and your back

your "stomach" is half protected by most plates but your groin/butt will remain armored except by very specific large and heavy armors, and even then only by soft armor which won't stop any halfway decent bullets

tagilla killing you via your stomach and arms with full auto buckshot even while your chest armor remains intact is a fairly common way to die to him at midrange when you aren't respecting him

[solid nebula]

Who's shooting groins in PvE?

[echo skiff]

scav aim lol

[solid nebula]

lmao

[echo skiff]

it's random vOv

i've died more than once to scav slug shotgun hitting an unarmored throat->instant death via thorax

i won't go faceshield every raid because the sound of my PMC breathing within the visor is more a hinderance but i'll gladly wear a heavier armor with throat protection just for that

and some people do opt for groin and sometimes groin/buttocks protection, but that much extra weight is too much for me

[proud oak]

or was it

they changed the nam eto critical hit

[echo skiff]

people have thrown hundreds of rounds at each other in practice mode, it's gone

bullets don't randomly do extra anymore

[proud oak]

as practice mode isthe same as the real game

[echo skiff]

haven't for a long time

[proud oak]

there is so many inconsistensies in the bullets in the game

[echo skiff]

not really

[proud oak]

some shoul dkill in 1 shot

some should not kill in 10 shots and they kill in 1 shot

[echo skiff]

that never happens lol

not unless you randomly headshot

in which case you should be seeing that in the postraid summary

[proud oak]

i have come to the realisation in tarkov theres no rules of ballistics they are just guidelines

[echo skiff]

that just sounds like a skill issue

[proud oak]

very broad guide lines

[echo skiff]

armor -is- RNG to a degree

[proud oak]

you can ask any pvp guy that has 10k hours they will say hte same thing

[echo skiff]

but you won't randomly die to asingle pellet of buckshot or anything, and a random pistol round will no longer fragment and randomly kill you way faster than it should

as someone who kappa'd back in the day, nah

desync is one thing

but ever since removal of fragmentation

you look at the bullets that killed you and the results will make sense relative to hitboxes

now, 'how' you got hit by those bullets can be pretty amazing

but the math maths

[proud oak]

they have said many times that we removed X problem and its still in the game

[echo skiff]

no more "one rifle round in my stomach somehow travels up into my thorax and double dips damage to kill me"

trust me, those were -dark- days

[shadow sequoia]

ik this a dumb question but is finding a marked room key easy

[rough badge]

wrong encryption error?

[echo skiff]

'a' marked room key, sure

[proud oak]

no

[echo skiff]

some of them are way way way more common than others and have fixed spawns with halfway decent oddds

[mystic berry]

marked room keys fixed spawns?

[proud oak]

cap

[echo skiff]

errrr, not 'fixed' as in always there

but 'there is a fixed spot that has a chance of spawning exactly this key, so check it every time you pass by'

[shadow sequoia]

oh really, imma google for this

[mystic berry]

i'd say they are rare to get, best odds are with cultists but you have to get them to spawn and get lucky enough

[echo skiff]

not like objective/quest keys that always 100% spawn, but like dorms marked key for example has a fixed spawn in the 2-story guard room. Very low odds, but it -is- a fixed spawn

if you check it every time you run dorms, you vastly increase the odds you'll see it

[mystic berry]

oh I see what you mean

same for the bloody rusty key, fixed spawn but low chance

[soft trail]

spam jackets and pray to nikita 5 times a day👍

[echo skiff]

yeah, and on the topic of the rusted bloody key, it seems to be a good way to farm for a marked key as well

rusted bloody key seems to have a gorillion key spawns, basically jacket++

[mystic berry]

idk if they nerfed it but I opened it 3x this wipe and no marked

[echo skiff]

only 3x, lol, try like 20 times and no marked keys either, but I did get a bunch of other rnadom rare keys

[mystic berry]

last few wipes I had a marked key almost every opening, maybe I was just a lucky bastard back then lol

[echo skiff]

that is definitely super abnormal lmao

[soft trail]

you must be because I never got one

[echo skiff]

ultimately though don't be afraid to just grind rubles and buy one if you need it for the quest tbh

learn labs, learn loot runs on it or just git gud at dragging hilarious nested-rigs worth of raider loot to the elevator

[mystic berry]

or hunt for cultists

I got 3x 314 marked key in one cultist run this wipe

best night of my tarkov life for sure

[echo skiff]

i can't get cultists to spawn lmao

every night raid on customs, cultists nowhere to be found

[mystic berry]

I get them every few customs night raid, feels like a 20% spawn rate

[echo skiff]

I think 35% is the listed on the interactive map site or some such

which might be true but I suspect they're spawning and ending up somewhere where I never find them

[proud oak]

35% ison woods

customs its like 25% i think

[echo skiff]

ah, thanks

[soft trail]

ive found 3 marked keys from jackets but the only labs access keycard I found so far has been gifted to me from santa

[mystic berry]

sell one marked key and buy like 20x labs keycard lmao

[echo skiff]

yellow cards should be pretty frequent boss drops these days, aren't they

I got like 6 lmao

[languid mauve]

what? All I get from santa is Jack Daniels. I mean he knows me well, but still

[mystic berry]

you've been a naughty PMC

[languid mauve]

I survived frostbite on alcohol alone

[soft trail]

he also gives me moonshine every other raid what a guy

[echo skiff]

i got tired of him

i get my drops and then merc him on the spot

[mystic berry]

bro chose neither prapor nor skier, he chose alcohol

do you not lose scav rep for killing him?

[echo skiff]

i've died too many times to him fucking up my soundscape and confusing a real enemy for him

absolutely not lol

I'm still sittting pretty at 4.0X and i've put santa in the dirt at least a hundred times

[mystic berry]

damn I've literally let myself be killed by the fat bastard because I didn't want to lose scav rep and you're telling me I could have just gunned him down$

[echo skiff]

get my first drop, get my gift exchange drop, then put him down

he DOES have crazy head HP and he WILL quickdraw you

don't do it at point blank

he CAN literally trade headshots with you and you'll lose

if you have a rifle or smg

[mystic berry]

there's no way he can tank like 5 headshot bullets right

[echo skiff]

but if you shoot him in the back of the head with a burst you'll be fine, or just use a shotgun

[soft trail]

is he worth killing

[solid nebula]

Reshala is between the two dorms how do I safely get him and his guards?

[proud oak]

no

[echo skiff]

no but if you literally push into his face and then shoot him you might come out of there with a suspiciously missing arm, and one time I even died to an instant face shot

[mystic berry]

try to nade him and split them up to get free kills

[echo skiff]

his loot and gear are generally trash, you do it to keep his footsteps from fucking you up in an uncleared area

[proud oak]

aggro the guards they will push you

[mystic yoke]

Where are yall having luck finding the nut sack? Last streamer item I need

[proud oak]

reshala will be dumb and just die of boredom

[echo skiff]

christmas trees are still up, aren't they?

[mystic berry]

found a few under christmas trees

[mystic yoke]

Ok thanks yall!

Havent seen one under a tree yet but i will spam them

[echo skiff]

do streamer items spawn at any valuables loose spawn, or only specific streamer items?

i know tree can be any streamer item, but I'm thinking about just valuables loose spawns in general

[mystic berry]

I think there's a loot pool for spawns

[echo skiff]

since Labs is chock full of streamer items

[mystic berry]

on labs I find a few streamers items each raid but always the sames

[solid nebula]

Resh + 2 dead

[echo skiff]

but come to think of it I've never seen the red paca

[solid nebula]

How many guards?

[mystic berry]

4 guards

maybe 5

[delicate oasis]

Hello guys any advice on how to reduce CPU load on eft?

[soft trail]

I always get that fuckass dumbell that isn't worth carrying

[echo skiff]

4, so two are probably knocking around or you might have killed them thinking they were just scavs

[hazy gorge]

Ive only Seen the Red paca in marked rooms or scavs

[mystic berry]

I'm so sad you can't put it up in the gym for display

[echo skiff]

beyond turbo obliterating your graphics quality in general, there's not a whole lot more you can do?

[hazy gorge]

Never on the normal valuable spawn

[mystic berry]

seen a few in weapon crates aswell

[echo skiff]

people always ask for magical silver bullets when it comes to game optimization. There's really nothing you can do as a user, either the dev builds a well optimized game (or has good optimization options) or they don't. tarkov hasn't. GG

[delicate oasis]

Ye, I might just have to buy a 9800x3d to run snow streets 😭

[echo skiff]

you can make sure to always play BSG servers and i think that's as good as it gets when it comes to tarkov

[mystic berry]

I don't mind having 30 fps on tarkov as long as there's no freezes

[delicate oasis]

There's a bunch of things u can do for fps but only if ur gpu is bad

[mystic berry]

you get used to low FPS but freezes can kill you fast

[mystic yoke]

I hope this loot nerf goes away after the update its pretty awful

[echo skiff]

what loot nerf lol

[mystic berry]

btw, do skills get harder to level up as you go up? I know the EXP cap goes from 0/10 to 0/100 at level 10 but like is it harder to go from 45 to 46 than it is 15 to 16?

[mystic yoke]

Loot has been significantly worse the last week or 2 compared to the begining of wipe

Marked rooms are pretty much useless right now

[echo skiff]

I haven't noticed tbh, seems as as always to me

[mystic berry]

i've noticed that marked rooms are now very much trash

idk why but very few keycards and even weapon/valuable drops

[echo skiff]

but I'm also not a marked room grinder

[mystic berry]

but maybe it's just unlucky day

[soft trail]

they've been on and off for me

[sweet helm]

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[quasi apex]

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[hazy gorge]

Marked rooms are just horrible

[mystic yoke]

Opened dorms 314 3 times and got under 1 mil worth of loot collectively, just ran a bunch of labs to and the stims are nerfed to hell

[hazy gorge]

Loot is worse for sure

[mystic berry]

that is true I used to get a full injector from residential area alone and now i'm lucky if i get two stims

[echo skiff]

how's... black, I think?

[soft trail]

one raid the best thing i got from RB-BK was an m60 and the next i got black keycard a dogtags case and a taiga among other things

[echo skiff]

the suspiciously 'empty' room with just a bunch of easy to find stims on the floor

[mystic berry]

black office feels the same, although I don't get as much keycards in there as I used to

I don't even open regular black anymore lol

[echo skiff]

just for a comparison on stims drops

[mystic yoke]

It was garbage for me today, only had like 6 stims in it

[echo skiff]

it's not worth buying off PVE flea for sure

but there's a task associated with it i think

[soft trail]

is it bad or what I haven't gotten the chance to run labs with my black yet

[solid nebula]

4 gooners + one bald coward dead

I like how Jaeger disses him

[mystic berry]

I check for ledX but if there's none there's like only a few stims in there

even with a mule and a sj6 it's not worth to open it for so few things

[mystic yoke]

The other room that uses black keycard is way better imo, just pulled 3 bittys out of it

[mystic berry]

keeps the black keycard for black office

[rare field]

No

[river mirage]

After 18 attempts at Terminal, I have officially escaped.

[mystic berry]

ggs, what ending?

[supple island]

do you ever sleep

[rare field]

mf i just woke up

12 hours of sleep

[river mirage]

Survivor. All because of one button of the ARRS bugged out on me….

[supple island]

12 hours of missed raids

[rare field]

Ah, someone who had the same issue as me

[rare field]

realising i could have max PA

[river mirage]

Yup, every other achievement for the main stories too.

[honest quail]

hi guys. 31/32 evidence just Leshy is missing and it don't spawn. anyone has this bug?

[river mirage]

I feel like my Kappa was more of an achievement than terminal.

[mystic berry]

Terminal felt like a chore at first but now I'm happy to do it because I know the path/map mostly lol

[solid nebula]

How far do the goons wander off in customs?

Is RUAF safe if they spawn?

[quartz vector]

Labryz scary as hell lowk 🥶

[quartz vector]

Hell nah, they go everywhere

[river mirage]

I don’t want to reset my account just to have to possibly get another bugged quest and screwed over again. I’ll wait until (if) they add prestige

[solid nebula]

Damn

[solid nebula]

Dude I'd be so pissed off

[proud oak]

no

[solid nebula]

I hope there's a fix

[solid nebula]

Just extracted

Was runing very low on ammo

[quaint salmon]

Sooo, apparently the Rus Post key can be insured??

[solid nebula]

Anyone else lowkey don't trust Skier?

[honest quail]

The worst part is that you get an achievement at the end of this. I’m not crazy enough to wipe the whole game just for one achievement.

[quick valley]

Are the servers having issues again rn? I am loading into streets really quickly but lose the connection instantly and need to reconnect

[crystal umbra]

what ammo do you guys recommend in taking to Labyrinth against shadow of tagilla? Last time I dumped almost an entire mag into him (thorax, neck, helmet) with PPBS and he just shrugged it off and cut me in half. Should I have chosen a different caliber or a weapon altogether? Ash-12 with the B ammo maybe?

just seems a little inconsistent because I did a bunch of Labyrinth runs in the past and dumping PPBS into his chest brought him down fast, but not these last few times?

[echo skiff]

how good is the actual to-armor damage on PPBS

[lost parrot]

M203 with buckshot rounds into his legs

[echo skiff]

i seem to remember something funny about it not actually being good at 'breaking' the armor

[stone goblet]

PPBS does the job for me

[honest quail]

m80a1-m62-m61-993-maiAp

[echo skiff]

oh yeah the underbarrel buckshot meme is actually a real strat

you get one (1) try

[crystal umbra]

so PPBS does 62 armor pen, but only 37 actual damage

[lost parrot]

i saw that korean scav guys video

[echo skiff]

but lord have mercy literally chopping him down like a tree is the silliest thing

[stone goblet]

You just have to shoot him in the face only

[crystal umbra]

both his armor and helmet are tier 6, right?

[stone goblet]

Ye

[echo skiff]

i wonder if he has stomach protection

never actually tried

[crystal umbra]

on the wiki it says he dont

200 HP on stomach, uncovered

[stone goblet]

Just shoot his face with igolnik

Even BS works

[echo skiff]

there's a few other bosses where magnum buck to the legs+groin is actually a real thing

[crystal umbra]

anyone tried the ASH12 on him yet?

[echo skiff]

it's way more finicky than good ammo to head but it's accessible early wipe

[solid nebula]

Do different grenades actually matter to you folks?

I kinda just take whatever I got the most of

[echo skiff]

minis are super light and will still actually kill someone who's tucked right into a doorway, unlike a zarya

try to use up the f-1s which are heavy on labs or factory where you know for sure you'll be throwing 4+ just to scout

[rare field]

m67 nothing else for me

[solid nebula]

How come?

[echo skiff]

on maps where you might run across the entire map without once throwing a grenade you want to bring vogs or minis which can be the difference between being training endurance or not (no yellow weight debuff) when your strength isn't leveled yet

[solid nebula]

Tre they be 0.6kg each

[echo skiff]

vogs are only .280

so literally less than half

and minis are freaking .136

so you can bring like 10 of them into a raid and stay underweight even with class 6 armor

aside from that, it's like...

[rare field]

Reasons, they just better 🙃

[echo skiff]

zaryas I swear have worse response radius, I know what people say but I fucking swear that enemies fail to respond to zaryas a lot of the time

they also explode really fast which IMO is a detriment

the odds you actually bonk someone with a grenade on purpose are really low, in the grand scheme of things, since most grenades you throw will be to either simply displace enemies or make them call out

so a long delay grenade gives you time to pull your weapon back out and start moving to make a push before the grenade goes off

[solid nebula]

I always kill Interchange Tagilla with Zaryas

[echo skiff]

tagilla is weirdly responsive to zaryas for sure

even in his helmet he has better ears than PMCs lol

[solid nebula]

I know they got better stats but 5s delay gives them the chance to run

[echo skiff]

but scavs and PMCs consistently fail to do a shout-callout to zaryas

[solid nebula]

Surprised Tagilla even hears us over his own breathing

[rare field]

that is the whole point...

[echo skiff]

or even run in response

again you're rarely ever going to throw a grenade -at- an enemy with the intent of killing them because 99% of the time you throw a grenade just as a scouting tool

or a "please change positions" tool

[solid nebula]

Oh yeah when Sanitar is in resort I grenade every single room

I actually killed him and his entire gang with a nade the other day

[rare field]

M67's aren't to ''kill'' with

its the best tool, to break em

[echo skiff]

fml "commit self-death" is apparently a banned phrase and I'm talking about grenades here

[broken fable]

got the sniper from flea market

[rare field]

your 5 sec of delay is 5 sec of free time to shoot at anything running from it

[echo skiff]

you can make dank plays with grenades you KNOW have a long timer because you can peek the greande that would literally blow yourself up to catch the AI running with your gun, and then hide before your own grenade goes off

[rare field]

without interuption

[solid nebula]

That IDK but they were asking about the quest to stash the sniper on Customs

[echo skiff]

it's relevant on factory and labs where you can sometimes hear a bunch of people in the stairs or around a corner/through a door

you can throw a grenade just inside the doorway (since it's the only place you can reach), it causes the AI to panic (even though they won't actually die to it), walk ONTO YOUR OWN GRENADE to catch them panicking, then get back out of the doorway into your original position before the grenade explodes

[solid nebula]

Can a grenade explode mid-air?

[rare field]

yup

[echo skiff]

yes, the short-fuse grenades are also notably not capable of doing the hilarious 89-degree vertical drop throw

[solid nebula]

LMAO xD

[echo skiff]

it's relevant in a few places on customs and shoreline

[solid nebula]

What about smoke grenades? Are they any good?

[echo skiff]

you can throw an f-1 or m67 vertically, and it will fall back down to hit the ground on the other side of a fence from you and kill someone ou can hear is right there

if you try that with a short-fuse vog it explodes harmlessly midair

or worst case explode midair on your own head and kills you

i have never once tried smoke on the AI tbh

it takes forever to deploy and throwing a frag in their general vicinity already causes them to effectively be crowd-controlled anyway

i memed some with smoke grenades in PVP but that was mainly for memes

[rare field]

in 10 years i've never even seen Killa use his own smokes

[echo skiff]

for example turning all of the factory office floor into a hotbox

people refuse to push into factory office if the whole place is smoked

[rare field]

i'll smoke that place and rush idc

[echo skiff]

they just assume you have a plan and refuse to engage with it (you don't)

[echo skiff]

maybe they think I have tripwires they won't be able to see or something... I dunno lol

[solid nebula]

Can you share your starting equipment for a raid?
Or at least just its weight

[echo skiff]

uh, depends on what i'm there for

earlygame before I had strength to a decent level I had to use a slick plate carrier (very light but still has 50 points of aramid on front/back) if I wanted to use level 6 plates, for armor, but now I have enough strength to wear something with throat/side protection and still remain out of yellow weight debuff

some maps I carry 120 spare rifle rounds onto, others, 240 or even 300

sometimes I carry just 4 grenades, sometimes I carry 8 or even more lol

[solid nebula]

https://discordapp.com/channels/521608697764380694/521620581326520331/1459865649315581973
This is my setup. Do you see any potential improvements?
The armor has Raggy's lightweight plates (level 5) and it has two 1kg side plates

[echo skiff]

labs for example I commit to starting at yellow weight since I won't be traveling enough distance to care about leveling endurance

side plates are a meme IMO, not worth the weight

[worthy otter]

You’re using a very heavy armour, a heavy gun and a heavy bag

And you even have a sidearm

[echo skiff]

if you take rifle rounds to the side you deserve it

melee weapon is one of the heaviest i think lol

take that out

sidearm is a luxury you can afford once you have strength leveled and occasionally it will save you, but so rarely i wouldn't until your strength is like 35+

[solid nebula]

But it saved me today 💔

My gun jammed in labs

I had to kill the raiders with the pistol

[echo skiff]

yeah, labs is a map I take a pocket 5-7 onto

30 rounds WILL save you if you get facechecked by a bad raider spawn

[floral plover]

elite strength is busted because wdym I can have a pkm 300 rounds and a ak-50 50 rounds

[solid nebula]

Any good armor that's lighter than mine?

[solid nebula]

ikr

[obsidian linden]

Any good places to get Fireklean? Need one for Workbench

I feel like Reserve but not sure

[echo skiff]

fireklean is in filing cabinets i think?

[solid nebula]

Woods bunker has a bit. I got 2 in two raids I went there and it's safer than Reserve

[obsidian linden]

The one by the village in the mountain yea

[solid nebula]

Yes

[echo skiff]

oh, no, it's not filing cabinets

[supple island]

dont listen to the haters use armor and bags for drip

[echo skiff]

looks like technical supply

[solid nebula]

I just want green weight:(

[echo skiff]

so for technical supply crate farming, that's going to be ground zero's underground, north to south

[floral plover]

also just me or kaban never has the pkp?

[supple island]

but you level strenght

[solid nebula]

For Labs sure I go all in but when I am doing general questing I hate not having stam

Yeah but I'm thinking if I go green into raid I can turn yellow mid-raid and level both up

My endurance is only level 5

[cosmic patrol]

if u do normal raids, just use armored rigs. They help out a chunk in keeping weight nicely.

[echo skiff]

Yeah, that's the way to go with it, especially on woods/shoreline etc.

you need to get your steps in

[cosmic patrol]

im enduro 7 and strength 40. 😄

[solid nebula]

Damn

I'm 5 and 16 😭

[echo skiff]

leveling softcaps very fast per-raid

[cosmic patrol]

Just like in beta, I elited strength at enduro like, 12

[echo skiff]

so you really want to start without yellow weight if you can help it on any map you'll be doing reasonable movement in

[pseudo tulip]

Bruh im 47 str 35 end

[cosmic patrol]

i mean, the sooner you elite strength the better. I always run yellow no questions asked. Elite strength also helps in terminal

[obsidian linden]

If you only exercise once does the debuff only last 12 hours? Wondering if it's better to only exercise once at a time

[cosmic patrol]

24

[solid nebula]

No it's 24 hours and both debuffs disappear

[echo skiff]

yeah but you'll pretty much always pick up enough loot to turn yellow within short order

[solid nebula]

So oyu can do it twice in a row

[cosmic patrol]

I dont loot everything, the ammo i take with me keeps me in yellow either way.

[echo skiff]

the hell is in your kit that you have yellow weight even with that high strength

[floral plover]

fr wtf

[echo skiff]

seems a bit excessive

at least for maps you're, again, going to be doing a lot of movement on

[floral plover]

I carry a pkm w 300 maybe 400 rounds and I'm still underweight by a lot

😭

[echo skiff]

bringing a gorillion f-1s to labs/factory is a different story

[worthy otter]

No, it lasts for 24 hours and halves the XP gained from the gym, you should do it twice, there’s no reason not to you’re missing out on skill points for no reason

[peak coral]

do cultists spawn more often on local raids

[floral plover]

I need a pkp 😭 but kaban never has one

[cosmic patrol]

I run terminal mostly now, im at 60 kilos. Usually i get a nice 38 kilo kit for normal raids so to speak

[solid nebula]

https://discordapp.com/channels/521608697764380694/521620581326520331/1459868771467530458
How is this?

[echo skiff]

"terminal mostly" bro what lmao

that is not a normal experience

[cosmic patrol]

yes

Terminal mostly

[worthy otter]

Terminal mostly just means you can’t escape

[obsidian linden]

Yea I'd been doing it twice but wasn't sure if the 1st debuff was half the timer, making waiting better by like 1 point

[cosmic patrol]

.... yes

[rare field]

Whats ur lvl

[cosmic patrol]

I am struggling so hard with this inconsistent BD spawns 😄 They dont even come near armory maan

[solid nebula]

Just got 35

[echo skiff]

okay nw that I'm out of raid lemme take a serious look at kit

[worthy otter]

First debuff is 50% reduced skill gain in gym
Second is 100% reduced skill gain in gym
Both last 24 hours and do not affect in raid stats at all

[rare field]

Look up 6B45, tell me if its buyable or lvl locked higher

[cosmic patrol]

AVS is banger ngl. I approve

[echo skiff]

I see a gen4 enjoyer, I concede it has its uses but for any map with movement I think you're bringing a lo tof weight for very little utility

[floral plover]

stich v2 OT best looking imo

[solid nebula]

Which version?
There are three rigs and an armor. I can get any of them

[echo skiff]

6B45 armor is the gold standard IMO

[solid nebula]

I have never been on Terminal.
I thought the only way out was to escape from Tarkov?

[echo skiff]

it gives you aramid sides and throat protection at a reasonable weight

if you need to go light, take the slick carrier and accept the openings
if you want to go heavy, take some amount of arm/groin aramid armor like the gen4

[rare field]

oh god didn't even know there more version LOL

[echo skiff]

yeah there's a bunch of rig variations of the 6b45

but the armor-vest one is the only good one, since the rig versions don't have that much space

[cosmic patrol]

Yup, and Terminal is the way you escape

[echo skiff]

16 slots lol

[rare field]

Looks like they all the same anyway pick one that suits ur needs if its a rig version

im using the body armor + blackrock anyway

[solid nebula]

Or I get the armor and get a big rig

[echo skiff]

rig version barely saves weight IMO

[rare field]

otherwise use osprey MK4A

[solid nebula]

Ye

I am using the MPPV. Arethere bigger rigs?

[echo skiff]

there are some 25-slot rigs but they have glaring downsides

the plate carriers that are 25-slot are heavy af

and the unarmored one only has 6 1x2 slots, all the other slots are 1-x1

MPPV is gold standard

[solid nebula]

https://discordapp.com/channels/521608697764380694/521620581326520331/1459870411817746486

[echo skiff]

bag seems a bit smol

I think it's worth the added weight to have a bigger bag

[rare field]

Get rid of the surv12, put 2 CMS's instead

[echo skiff]

and even when weight matters there's a ragman 4 bag for milk barter that's inanely light for 35 slots

[rare field]

Get rid of the pistol waste of weight

[echo skiff]

strongly disagree, surv12 has better HP rate doesn't it

CMS has very low HP rate

[rare field]

idk dont care CMS faster

[echo skiff]

Destroyed parts that are restored with a Surv12 field surgical kit will only have 60% - 72% of their maximum HP for the remainder of the raid.

Destroyed parts that are restored with a CMS kit will only have 25% - 45% of their maximum HP for the remainder of the raid.

[maiden garnet]

If you're USEC can you or can you not walk up to the Mi-28 in Water Treatment without being shot? I'm trying to settle an arguement with a friend.

[rare field]

not reading all that

[echo skiff]

just copypasting the relevant wiki text

one of the sentences is repeated, I didn't think to cut it lol

[earnest gale]

what's the best way to farm marked key ?

[maiden garnet]

Cultists

[echo skiff]

grind rubles and buy one tbh

[maiden garnet]

either that or spam filing cabinets on Reserve, or jackets on Factory

[echo skiff]

I think you're wasting your time derailing your experience just to get one

but everyone needs labs components and labs is insane rubles

[rare field]

overall shoudn't worry about endurance at all untill you reach elite strenght to begin with

[echo skiff]

...but you can level both

you're softcapped per raid

so it's good to get your steps in early

[rare field]

if you can start by even 0.1 difference its enough

[stone goblet]

The mi-28?

[maiden garnet]

If you're at a point where you need to surgery aren't you better off just hitting a propatol and just leaving?

[solid nebula]

Rush 100 or Pilgrim?

[desert wren]

Shoreline is fucked… just spawned in and had 6 pmcs in front of me

[maiden garnet]

The helicopter

[stone goblet]

Yes you cab

[echo skiff]

do you have ragman 4 yet

[cursive river]

how do I claim my giveaway 😭

[solid nebula]

Negative

[maiden garnet]

are you serious? Everytime I've done it I've gotten shot

[rare field]

i mean sure if you dont care about leveling up surgery?

[stone goblet]

You can walk anywhere in the WTP that isn't on a roof or in a tower if you're usec

[maiden garnet]

Well shit guess I was completely wrong then, thanks man

[stone goblet]

But if you piss off the rogues then you have 3 raids where they treat you like a bear

[echo skiff]

before ragman 4 I suggest doing the RAM trade for the RUSH. 2.6kg for 45 slots, although it's a slightly janky slot arrangement

[maiden garnet]

yeah I knew that part but I didn't actually know I could just walk right by without them giving a shit lmao, cheers

[echo skiff]

Prapor4 has has the big green raid backpack but it's excessive on most maps that aren't factory or labs

[stone goblet]

Yeah just don't get too close to them

[solid nebula]

Is 2 AFAKs too much to have on me?

[stone goblet]

They have personal space issues

[solid nebula]

lol

[echo skiff]

Ragman 4 is the best for lightweight IMO, Trooper 35 backpack is only 1.0kg and is 35 slots

[echo skiff]

AFAKs are a common drop but they're weirdly heavy

[rare field]

if you gonna bring 2 afaks ur better of just bringing 1 entire gRIZZLY

[echo skiff]

they also obliterate their durability curing bleeds

[undone ibex]

Hello

[echo skiff]

I am a salewa believer even though it's 1x2

and they're also dirt cheap

[stone goblet]

Salewa is best

[echo skiff]

so I confidently rebuy them to have a 400 maxed salewa every time

[maiden garnet]

if you have unheard / have done pocket quest salewa is the way to go, stick it in your pocket

[stone goblet]

Fully heals a limb in 1 use

[echo skiff]

eh, no reason to wait on 1x2 pockets

as longa s you have a rig that isn't garbage

salewas are scary because "not slot efficient" but seriously the lower weight is better , they use less dura curing bleeds than AFAKs which explode if you end up using them for a bleed on hotkey, and i think they're even faster animation tbh

oh no it's just the 85/use versus 60/use, which matterse more than you'd think

[karmic nexus]

Are you just obsessed with weight or something?

[echo skiff]

every 100 grams matters when still leveling strength

[sand cosmos]

doesnt btw

[echo skiff]

once it gets past even like level 20 you start getting way more freedom

but until then it can be a struggle to remain under yellow

[sand cosmos]

juat level the stenght bro

[echo skiff]

that's so much wasted time and steps not on endurance

[karmic nexus]

Just level the strength till your not overweight

[echo skiff]

but maybe that's my old PVP mindset of "must level both skills"

[sand cosmos]

ur making it harder on yojrself for no reason xd

[karmic nexus]

Then pop a Obdolbos 2 and level endurance and immunity then

[echo skiff]

does literally no one understand how per-raid softcapping hits

you really want to go into as many raids as possible not yellow

[solid nebula]

I JUST noticed that we can put weapons on BOTH SIDES OF THE WEAPON RACK????

[sand cosmos]

or. want strenght first no having to care xd

[stone goblet]

I don't think it's that deep tbh

Just use gym

[echo skiff]

you stop getting meaningful strenghth XP super fast into a woods/shoreline raid

[sand cosmos]

xp is xp

[karmic nexus]

xp is xp

[echo skiff]

when you could have leveled both endurance, and strength in that raid

[rare field]

xp is xp

[sand cosmos]

faster elite strenght the better

[stone goblet]

Xp is xp

[cursive abyss]

I like how someone with 89 hours is selling 92 SSDs on flea

totally not cheating

[sand cosmos]

its butch

trolling as always

[karmic nexus]

Elite strength then get endurance, it really isnt that much better, when you get to higher levels and have money and you really "need" that endurance then just pop a SJ6.

[golden tusk]

I can see the dates when the christmas tree module goes away but does anyone know from previous years when the snow goes away? my eyes are burning

[karmic nexus]

prob same day

[maiden garnet]

Once you hit max on Endurance or Strength the Gym will only give you xp for the skill that's not elite.

It literally doesn't matter whether or not you level strength or endurance first

[karmic nexus]

this too

[sand cosmos]

elite strenght is just better

[stone goblet]

It's usually like around March ish

[sand cosmos]

wa easier to care about endurance

[cosmic patrol]

hello butch

[karmic nexus]

dont tell me that

[golden tusk]

ur kidding......

[stone goblet]

Hello

[golden tusk]

i feel this lmao

[maiden garnet]

Infact I'd say that elite strength is better to level first because you can carry more into a raid while being underweight, im pretty sure if you bring a JPC or AVS with an SMG and no backpack you still are underweight at elite strength

[echo skiff]

Why is it 'first'

[worthy otter]

Spring

[sand cosmos]

lets hope snow stays for longer

[cosmic patrol]

#eft-announcements message

[echo skiff]

there's nothing 'first' about it

you can get a huge amount of early endurance xp by just being aware of your weight while still elveling traders

[sand cosmos]

elite atrenght makes gun 0kg

[maiden garnet]

that too

[cursive abyss]

I genuinely do not understand why people would cheat in pve

[stone goblet]

It's like really not this deep

[echo skiff]

treating it like something inevitable isn't realistic for people who aren't powergrinding this game to infinity

[golden tusk]

that doesn't talk about the snow, I already checked announcements before coming here to ask for peoples experiences in previous years

[golden tusk]

ur killin me

[sand cosmos]

bro calm down

[echo skiff]

takes hundreds of hours of playtime before strength is elite

[sand cosmos]

xddd

[cosmic patrol]

Only snow? Ah I read christmas tree, mb

[stone goblet]

It's like REALLY not this deep

[karmic nexus]

It really isnt

[maiden garnet]

Something you should consider is that while you're overweight, your first sprint of the raid really effects how fast you level strength lol

[golden tusk]

christmas tree can stay, snow can go lmao

[sand cosmos]

strenght elite superior

[cosmic patrol]

Other way around for me ngl

[karmic nexus]

Man just doesnt know when to get that people have other opinions and his is just wrong

[maiden garnet]

you're probably not leveling strength that quick because you micro sprint first every raid and then lose out on like 80% of your possible strength xp for that raid, every raid

[mystic marsh]

Butcher? I hardly know her!

[echo skiff]

okay, hold on, what is this dank strength-training strat I'm unaware of

I'm coming from mostly PVP wipes in the past

[worthy otter]

You just run your entire bar

Nothing else to it

[cursive abyss]

so I'm supposed to at least burn my entire bar first right

[karmic nexus]

elite strength makes gun go to 0kg

[maiden garnet]

tl;dr, if you don't run your entire bar on your FIRST sprint of the raid, you lose out on most of your strength xp for the entire raid, that's it

[echo skiff]

and this is different from just taking enough steps to hit strenght xp softcap... how?

[maiden garnet]

yes

[cursive abyss]

ok

[sand cosmos]

go orange weight to raid, run full stamina bar for xp boost

[worthy otter]

If you sprint and then stop your diminishing returns goes from increased to neutral

[cursive abyss]

that explains why I'm just 16 strength when I'm level 38

[mystic marsh]

Do you even go gym

[sand cosmos]

never gym

we rich out here

[maiden garnet]

idk if you can still do it but bring 2-3 docs cases full of SAS drives and go to Interchange, sprint your entire bar, stop 15 minutes, repeat until raid ends, repeat, you easily can get elite strength in like 3 days of doing this

[rare field]

yey got my 7.3 dura glock back URAA

[sand cosmos]

ok see thats juat unnecessary asfk

[worthy otter]

That’s stupid in PVE, in PVP people did it because you lose nothing

In PVE just wear gear and be overweight

You’ll get elite eventually

[mystic marsh]

Or you can go gym

[maiden garnet]

i mean if you don't feel like playing the game that day or you're doing other shit like studying

[cursive abyss]

Ok so sprint longer

[mystic marsh]

The glock is like: just let me die already

[worthy otter]

If you don’t feel like playing the game then go and grind skills on the game

[sand cosmos]

xd

[earnest gale]

Is the woods marked bunker still relevant for farming marked keys ?

[maiden garnet]

its really not that hard to have the game open on your 2nd monitor and youtube on the other xd

[worthy otter]

You can find any key there, it’s rare though now

[mystic marsh]

Bro out there having 2 monitors like some pampered rich mf

[rare field]

Youtube? bro im watching Anime while im clapping bosses

[earnest gale]

so cultist is better ?

[halcyon breach]

woods bunker is giga shit now

[cursive abyss]

I like how your assumption is "on your 2nd monitor"

[maiden garnet]

i spent an hour last week dropping nades at my feet and kms'ing on factory to level vitality when i was bored watching 8 hour video essays

[worthy otter]

No one said it’s hard, you’re actually making it harder than just wearing your normal kit and doing exactly what you said to do anyway

[echo skiff]

lmfao

[mystic marsh]

Bro watch my fav anime, highly recommend

[mystic marsh]

This anime made me main P226 as my pistol of choice lmao

[karmic nexus]

I seriously cant wrap my brain around this. You are saying that you dont get as much Str XP if you break your first sprint in every raid. But str leveling in based off distance right?

[cursive abyss]

I'm starting to think tarkov mains are genuinely disconnected from normal society

[rare field]

@solid nebula See what you have done? Bro simply asking if theres anything better to wear and this turned into a whole strength debate

[worthy otter]

Yes but you get diminishing returns for skill levelling in raids

[echo skiff]

yeah same I don't get this either

[karmic nexus]

That I know

[solid nebula]

😭😭😭IKRR chat on fire rn

[echo skiff]

I understood that it was purely based on distance traveled

[maiden garnet]

Every raid you start your skills with a little green arrow next to them. That means you get 150% XP gain, if you sprint for 0.5 seconds, you waste that 150% and it goes to 100% or even less.

So instead of getting 3 points, you get 1.3 or something like that

[worthy otter]

So if you sprint and then stop sprinting, your skill point gain goes from up arrow to no arrow

[karmic nexus]

So the 129% that the wiki states is time based rather than point based contradicting the wiki?

[maiden garnet]

stretch that 2 points out over like 90 raids, you're missing out on 2.5 levels because you're microsprinting

[rare field]

in others words your 130% bonus goes to 0%

case closed

[worthy otter]

No it’s not time based

[cursive abyss]

Do you pop SJ6 for strength leveling

[distant obsidian]

took me 450 raids to ge elite strength. Justy hit it yesterday, Not that long

[mystic marsh]

Best way to level up strength is to hit the goddamn gym

[cursive abyss]

Or don't bother with that shit sjd just run raids normally

[worthy otter]

Best way to level strength is play the game

[mystic marsh]

Finally someone who speaks some sense

[worthy otter]

Overthinking everything is stupid you’re going to get elite anyway just do your tasks

[night wren]

bruh, is hideout bugged?

i cant enter it without crashing

[mystic marsh]

Yes, uninstall and play ABI

[distant obsidian]

best way to get elite strength is what chek said, play the game lol

[night wren]

ew

[mystic marsh]

That was a joke

[karmic nexus]

So I'm reading the wiki, 129% till your first point, got it, 100% till the next point, then less for the rest. What I'm not understanding is why would it matter how I get that first point in walking or running its still going to happen

[echo skiff]

"450 raids to elite stength" and "not that long" are crazy sentences to put next to each other

[karmic nexus]

So why would breaking up the spring matter if I'm going to get a point regarless

[rare field]

Ignore strength/endurance you'll get that naturally by just raiding...

Focus on PAS / Troubleshoot / Surgery etc instead

[mystic marsh]

Although I really wish we could get rolling down backpacks in tarkov instead of having to put backpack inside backpack inside backpack

[true topaz]

servers are dying again?

[distant obsidian]

the DR doesnt hit until you stop running

[echo skiff]

I got like 15 endurance levels with only 32 strength this wipe, it feels good

[worthy otter]

The points aren’t awarded till you stop sprinting

[echo skiff]

and it only took a little bit about being conscious about weight to achieve

[mystic marsh]

Or you can hit the fucking gym

[echo skiff]

gym timegated af

[mystic marsh]

If you only play a little bit of the game every day, then that's fine

[karmic nexus]

That might be the missing info, sprint till you cant, then get what exp you get, if you get say 1.43 xp that that just means you got your full point and then some due to the 129% bonus

[echo skiff]

that's fair, for people who are only playing a little bit each day then the gym does everything for you

[cursive abyss]

I might have missed out on tons of strength xp over the 190 raids

[worthy otter]

No if you use SJ6 and Trimadol you can get like 5 points from your first sprint because the bonus applies to all of it

[echo skiff]

but like if you're trying to rush a kappa while still getting good skill levleing at the same time, only takes a little bit of thought and adjustment to kit to get a solid amount of endurance at the same time

[rare field]

back in our day, we didn't even had a gym, timegate or not its free xp given to you

[echo skiff]

my raid time ain't free lol

[karmic nexus]

Thats the info that I was missing, I appreciate you walking me through it!

[cursive abyss]

What a bizarre way of calculating xp

When it should have just been time based

[karmic nexus]

So technically, if you could get to say .9 points of Str then full spring you would still be getting your 129% for that entire spring right

[worthy otter]

No

[echo skiff]

yeah it sounds like they just used a super caveman-tier apporach to calculating xp gain leading to this comedic "exploit" (it's not a major component of the game so not as heavy of a negative connotation as 'exploit' usually has, but it's definitely not intuitive and definitely doesn't seem intended)

[worthy otter]

You lose diminishing returns immediately

[karmic nexus]

But you are saying you only get the points after sprinting

[worthy otter]

If you sprint and then stop

Your bonus is gone

and won't come back til the next raid

skill points are awarded in sets of 0.1, not 1.0

the game for some reason removes your bonus immediately

it doesn't care if you gained a full skill point or not

[cursive abyss]

Do you still get skill xp on a run through

[karmic nexus]

Oh, first kill point in any increments rather than a full point as in 1.0

[echo skiff]

from my understanding it's basically saying "the first paycheck that comes in the mail has a bonus attached to it"

so it's up to you to make sure that first paycheck is as big as possible

even though that makes painfully little sense

[dusk beacon]

Does "Mp5Kurtz" and MP-9 without stock that change running animation make you run faster?

[worthy otter]

yes

[karmic nexus]

I understand now, I was reading as the full skill point 1.0 rather than first skill point .1

[worthy otter]

the best way to level up is to just do your gym every day and play the game normally

going into a raid to specifically level strength is very silly

[cosmic patrol]

imma SJ6 + Trimadol every raid now.

[cosmic patrol]

I dont have anything else to do, while im waiting for my terminal card 🙁 (I just cant be arsed to do dripout)

[echo skiff]

i wonder if the 200K+ rubles spent on that is worth it

probably is

[worthy otter]

its not

[echo skiff]

rubles are easy come easy go lol

[worthy otter]

they are

and its still not worth doing

[echo skiff]

personally I think of it more as the trouble involved

on any map besides like woods or shoreline? maybe interchange

the amount of distance you cover in a double stimmed sprint

is going to be longer than the first hotspot probably

so you have to waste time running in circles until your stam is finally gone

[cursive abyss]

That's an insane amount of roubles to be spent on Xp

[echo skiff]

200K isn't an insane amount of rubles at all

my ammo costs more than that

[worthy otter]

literally just play the game

your strength will reach elite

[echo skiff]

it's more about the annoyance of having to make sure to finis hthat first double stimmed sprint

[worthy otter]

you are misunderstanding how big of a difference it makes

most of your levelling comes from your unboosted levelling

[echo skiff]

you say that and then we have people saying "you've been wasting 80% of teh potential strength gain in every raid", so which is it

[karmic nexus]

So I should say screw it, pop a SJ1, SJ6, and Trimadol and just full spring across the entire map lol

[cosmic patrol]

.. do it no balls

[worthy otter]

it's not 80%

[karmic nexus]

I mean I have been popping obdolbos 2 almost every raid so why not

[worthy otter]

you can gain a couple of skill points just by sprinting your entire bar at the start

if you're going into a raid to specifically pop stims and run around aimlessly for 180 seconds

that's just a massive waste of time

[echo skiff]

oh, are we talking the difference between the full-bar and full-bar-with-stim

[karmic nexus]

We love wasting time here!

[echo skiff]

as opposed to "i did a microsprint naturally before hitting a point of interest" <-> fullbar

[worthy otter]

again you're overcomplicating it

just play the video game

it's not that deep

if your character moves, your strength skill will increase

[cosmic patrol]

Its not that deep... its DEEPER

[echo skiff]

well, the whole conversation stemmed off of "i want to level endurance earlygame too"

which I think is worth doing

[worthy otter]

you will level it anyway by virtue of having low strength and being overweight all the time

[echo skiff]

but apparently not

[distant obsidian]

your going to get some endurance, plus if you play arena, that will level endurance a lot as well

but its always been strength first

[echo skiff]

screw arena

if I wanted to play PVP i wouldn't be playing PVE

[distant obsidian]

arena and pvp tarkov are two different things

[karmic nexus]

@worthy otter Apprecaite the info dump!

[echo skiff]

ffs I wasn't paying attention and walked into the USEC camp minefield on woods

the unmarked one

[sand cosmos]

are we still on xp talk bro xd

[karmic nexus]

Nah

[worthy otter]

I have two RB-PKPM and two RB-VO but no RB-BK

That could be two dorms marked right there

[karmic nexus]

lol, I have yet to see pkpm

[turbid owl]

i cant remember are gus and basmach considered bosses or guards?

[cursive abyss]

Guard

[worthy otter]

Kaban guards

[turbid owl]

thnx!

[cursive abyss]

Aside from strength are there other skills with stupid fucking nonsense leveling conditions like these

[vocal iris]

If you have to run nods, what is the best protection you can get with face coverage? Nods + Ronin Respirator and earplugs?

[distant obsidian]

strength is as straight forward as it goes for leveling lol

run over weight.

done

[cursive abyss]

Well clearly not, because my first assumption is that it's based on total distance covered while overweight

[distant obsidian]

yes it is

[cursive abyss]

Not this dumbass "sprint first bar so you don't torpedo your skill xp gain"

[distant obsidian]

what

nvm

im not asking.

[karmic nexus]

Same^

[worthy otter]

It is that clear

The unclear part is the diminishing returns

[distant obsidian]

I dont have a patience to deal with this lol

[worthy otter]

Distance while overweight = strength experience

[karmic nexus]

Hows your raids going tonight?

[distant obsidian]

I just woke up, its 4 am

[cursive abyss]

Maybe it's just that I've only done 190 raids

Who knows

I'm at 16 even though I've spent every single second of every raid overweight

[worthy otter]

That doesn’t mean much if a raid lasts 30 seconds or 30 minutes

Distance travelled is what matters

[cursive abyss]

I'll check in a bit

[maiden garnet]

Strength Leveling tldr: You fat. You run long. You get big level. Start raid with big boost. Run small? Small level. Run big? Big level.

use sj6 for bigger level

[echo skiff]

the mechanics of how an sj6 transates into a "bigger level" are goofy and unintuitive and don't go into how you have to sprint away the whole stamina bar before you stop once

[maiden garnet]

you must be new to tarkov its okay you'll learn eventually

[worthy otter]

Gee, Tarkov? Unintuitive? Ain’t no way

[echo skiff]

i got kappa in a pvp wipe years ago and never knew about this lol

[zinc oxide]

Just realized I made two moreman #1 audio tapes.. oops

[karmic nexus]

lol

[echo skiff]

back when recoil was still awful

[karmic nexus]

congrats

[cursive abyss]

I haven't played in a while and forgot how asinine this all is

[echo skiff]

just saying it's kinda offputting to be so condescended to

i still jiggle peek the AI

old habits die hard

[maiden garnet]

tuff

[cursive abyss]

OEFT and being condescending goes together hand in hand

[echo skiff]

what's the "O"

[rough badge]

Welp gonna do another term run tonight. Hopefully this time I can actually grab the keycard :)

[worthy otter]

Don’t think of it as condescension, think of it as people just being jaded with the game, nothing to do with you

[solid nebula]

I swear this game is laced or something

I'm starting to hear "TAGILLAAAAA" in places nowhere near a computer

I'm hallucinating about scavs💔

[echo skiff]

automod why

[worthy otter]

Spammer

[echo skiff]

i can't shout tagillaubeyyyyy.wav

[worthy otter]

Naughty naughty

[solid nebula]

LMAO

[peak coral]

i cannot find any damn cultists

literally have not seem them all wipe

[solid nebula]

So what's behind you?

What's in the apartment?

[maiden garnet]

If you're not doing it already buy 500 green flares and run to scav fort on Customs, if they're not there flare out and repeat good luck

[echo skiff]

wait, does AI respond to non-airdrop flares too?

[maiden garnet]

yes, PMC's rush me when I use firework flares

[worthy otter]

Cofdm and stims and Bitcoin and teapots

[echo skiff]

fireworks are airdrops

[maiden garnet]

oh non airdrops i dont know

[echo skiff]

but they'd respond to green or yellow too?

[maiden garnet]

probably not

[solid nebula]

Beautiful I'm gonna buy 10 of you

[echo skiff]

oh wait I misunderstood

you're just saying to leave via flare

I thought you were somehow shooting the flare to attract them airdrop style

[maiden garnet]

yes just leave through the flare exit and reset

[echo skiff]

fair

[maiden garnet]

i spent a good 8 hours trying and found fuck all

[worthy otter]

Use code “Chekmas” for 10% off your purchase (Christmas code might be expired by now)

[solid nebula]

🙏🏻🙏🏻

[maiden garnet]

chek 13 is real btw i just went there to help a friend with blue fire and found 2 injectors cases and a docs case

[tight crag]

i failed my first terminal attempt, but prapor doesnt have an option to sell me another note ?

[maiden garnet]

its in his vendor tab

like every other item

[tight crag]

duh

thanks

[echo skiff]

out of curiosity, what do you think the best christmas tree running map is

[languid mauve]

customs

[maiden garnet]

interchange

flare exit is right next to it

[echo skiff]

my gut says interchange just because there's no boss and fast flare out

but the initial run might be awful

[maiden garnet]

you're gonna be running to the tree regardless of the map, and interchange has 2-3 spawns literally right next to the tree

[echo skiff]

was considering doing some runs before the tree goes away

stock up on more stims

[high sandal]

??code

[quasi apex]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
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[trim oak]

are local raids back on the menu

[mystic marsh]

Imagine if you could coop extract in pve

[trim oak]

you can

[mystic marsh]

Ehhhh

In theory

[trim oak]

no in practice

[mystic marsh]

How

[trim oak]

ive done it about 6 times

ai scavs work for coop extract in pve and pvp

[mystic marsh]

Yes but wouldn't they try to kill you

[trim oak]

yeah but theyre ai scavs bro

[mystic marsh]

Thorax, neck

[worthy otter]

Can’t kill me when they’re shooting the ground because I’m blocking their gun

[vital trellis]

??code

[quasi apex]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | OEFT7THBDAY | BANHAMMER | ELVISVISTA | ju20fu2620idfh88

[trim oak]

no neck armor? thats crazy

[mystic marsh]

I wear drippy vests and they usually don't protect neck

[echo skiff]

What's the point

[mystic marsh]

I unironically wear MBSS sometimes 😭

[echo skiff]

first person game lol

[mystic marsh]

I like my pmc drippy bruv

[echo skiff]

I get some people wanting cool gloves in first person

but caring about your vest, which you can't even see when you look down (y oucan at least see your own legs), is wild to me

[mystic marsh]

I wear cool clothes irl too, even tho irl is first person only

[obsidian linden]

Is there any reason to keep onto the Shyshka or Pickles?

[trim oak]

irl has other people

[echo skiff]

you can actually see yourself IRL and there are real people yeah

[mystic marsh]

I play coop

[karmic nexus]

Kappa

[trim oak]

lmao

[echo skiff]

oh, an actual co-op player, never mind then, I rescind all earlier statements

[obsidian linden]

They're not used for Kappa

[echo skiff]

your drip is entirely necessary then

[karmic nexus]

the pickles?

[cosmic patrol]

no

[sage sandal]

spa tour 2 can be done with mp-18 right?

[karmic nexus]

Which pickles are we talking about?

[sage sandal]

oh no.. its a 12ga shotgun, fug

[karmic nexus]

Oh damn

[sage sandal]

gosh dang it

[karmic nexus]

Thought they were a streamer item lol

[astral kindle]

Spa tour 2 is one where you mark 2 places

[obsidian linden]

The jar of pickles from the current event

[vocal iris]

Anyone know an answer to this?

[sage sandal]

sorry 1

[echo skiff]

any 12 guage shotgun will do

[karmic nexus]

Been a year and a half since I've played so alot of stuff is new, I just saw new dumb looking purple item and assumed kappa requirement

[sage sandal]

i brought the only non 12 gauge shotgun lmao

[echo skiff]

mp153

[echo skiff]

could bring the TOS

(as in that doesn't work either and is a shotgun)

[mystic marsh]

Coop is hella fun, my favorite amount of ppl to be in a party is 3, including myself

[echo skiff]

3 would drive me crazy

I struggle iwth just 1 person tripping all my alarm bells when I hear footsteps while looting

[sage sandal]

lmao guess im just gonna get out pretty fast that was a dumb dumb on my part

[obsidian linden]

That'd prolly be the best full head coverage overall. Tje :ShZ-2DTM with the Aventail and Visor is also pretty good, and cheaper. The only thing is I'm not sure if it'll let you wear nods and the visor, although it does have spots for both

[sage sandal]

maybe therell be some chance for a couple sbih kills but meh

[mystic marsh]

What about 2 people

[obsidian linden]

The 23mm one too

[astral kindle]

You have answered your own question, best protection is ronin respirator for nods but i'd personally just run exfil with skullmask as i'd rather have better hearing than protection

[echo skiff]

I would literally never feel comfortable looting

[mystic marsh]

I think a trio is the best coop

[echo skiff]

i'd be fine just running around but hearing footsteps in a menu and not being able to swing my head to make sure I know whose it is would put my blood pressure through the roof

[karmic nexus]

Have you ever played a video game before?

[echo skiff]

I said it earlier, but I've kappa'd years ago

pre-recoil changes

so you can understand my deepseated anxiety when it comes to noises in tarkov

[karmic nexus]

All I do is imagine making a map, if you know theres a friendly behind you and you hear running infront of you then assuming the friendly in front of you is not friendly

[strange tiger]

Time to take a PKP to terminal

[karmic nexus]

It also helps when teammates actually communicate

[echo skiff]

that's be for 1 person, yeah

but 2 people would be insane

you know two people are 'in front of you'

you hear two sounds in front of you

is it teammate+enemy or both your teammates

who knows

[karmic nexus]

I play with 4 people regularly we have had 1 team kill in this entire wipe due to bad bad communication

[echo skiff]

you have to count on THEM to know who's making what sounds

[mystic marsh]

I start to really struggle at 4 people party size, it's actually horrible

[echo skiff]

and the people I play with are, politely as I can put it, really undisciplined

[mystic marsh]

Five people? Do not run. Ever. Do not run five people

Five people enter, 3 leave because 2 got teamkilled

[karmic nexus]

Also discord streams help a bunch, if you hear sprint and peak over at second monitor and no one is sprinting then sprint is bad guy

[distant obsidian]

5 mans are just cluster fucks no matter what

anything past 3 is a mess

[karmic nexus]

I do 5 mans but only when questing, never when just casually playing or looting. I basically just protect the president the person who needs the quest or something

[distant obsidian]

yeah naw

[echo skiff]

yeah see that'd be fine

[karmic nexus]

Yall teams need to just communicate

[echo skiff]

If all you're doing is purely playing security

but trying to loot and going head-down would be nightmarish

[distant obsidian]

its not just about communication when its 5

[mystic marsh]

Five sucks

Four sucks but less

Three is perfect, two is amazing, one has its own fun but I get solo anxiety

[echo skiff]

solo is preferable

if it makes a noise, kill it

[mystic marsh]

Solo anxiety

[karmic nexus]

It really is when you say that playing 5 man sucks and I have no issues when my team communicates and is actively aware on where people are

[mystic marsh]

Santa in question

[echo skiff]

bro I beam santa every time

[karmic nexus]

fuck santa

[echo skiff]

no remorse

[mystic marsh]

I accidentally killed Santa once. I felt so bad

[echo skiff]

he is going to fuck up my soundscape

for a few factory raids

[mystic marsh]

He gave me samogon, I won't forget

Moonshine costs a bunch

[echo skiff]

I brought a pocket shotgun purely to make the process of bonking santa cleaner