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god forbid u seeing mine with blue pen
And saw it lol
no
Yea it shows your stinky screen
what you gonna do with it π
Need to see
bro what
powerful in its category ? - YES
Worth it ? - Neh, depends on what u would do with it
Who do you need me to roast now?
Yeah, if I look normally, it looks fine
thm is slow\dying rn
they wiped clean the DB ?
don't have a phone lol
hak5 set is much better
Whats the best hacking tool in the world though?

My league got dropped to bronze cause of error ππ
yeah
Your computer
How many years ago you cleaned your screen
A laptop
2 weeks ago
The heck 2 reply at once
people skills, go for the weakest link first
nth Is the best, what considered the best is what u wanna go with
On its own? No, but with a pwnagachi or a awok
Html
What about a screw driver?
Love my baby pineapple
Paid for it yk
No
I will not click on the link lol
Just verify yourself
It's not working

I hate Salafis
we hate u too dw
is tryhackme down?
Its up
Its cause I killed my VM

thm is back prob just a backend issue
It was me π€£
A intern? In this economy?
π€£
Ima take that internship from em
*Puts English glasses on
It's "An" Intern
In the gleep gloop
bro what i was in the middle of a room rn
tryhackme is down again
Go touch grass till then
was fixing y keyboard lol

i literally just came from outside

Tryhavkme down forever
hi im new here, looking at loading a distro of linux onto a laptop for my stdies. any specific ones you guys reccomend? like a version of kali with heaps of tools pre packaged?
Vm or for your laptop main os
Black Arch

delete kali
get any other distro
kali is good
like in replacement of the slow ass attatck box
yo not that shesh

If your studying cybersec get kali
but if your studying computer science get arch
Install the tools manually

yeah just for my tryhackme studies
Nah. TempleOS
If I got fedora what am I
Red hat
i mean i should stfu cuz im using parrot wsl

Fedoras are not red hats. They are black leather hats IIRC.
righto so just kali linux it is then
f
i could hear his laugh from here lol
@rapid merlin
im not even using htb/thm these days, focusig on mid exams lol
I try hack tryhackme, Iβm winning this koth
Same ..but not exams , job.
is cooked
i must say gl

i got intresting ideas but jail is a wall i need to bypass lol
On thm challenges n stuff? - Neh
nah the platform is down lol
Nah Iβm contemplating on whether I finish the jr pentest path or keep avoiding the web app stuff
Office hours over ..now I can chill( well anyways I've chilled the whole day today but ok)

Why must it be 5 am.. I donβt wanna sleep
tryhack me VMS not working for some reason
Wait for now, let their infrastructure chill
7 days of AI + tech news in 300 seconds.
No fluff, just what you actually missed π
https://medium.com/ai-in-plain-english/7-days-of-tech-news-in-300-seconds-215eb7f6d778
Assalam alaikum what is this brother
hey
reminds me AoC2025 sidequest
heyyyyyy
my vpn isn't working for koth
re-generate the vpn configuration file
did anyone face something like that
it happen often
how are you doin guys
Why doesnt it allow me to copy from virtual box some times?
regular rooms workin'
do it with diffrent machine
ur using vm ?
yes
attacker box it wont allow me to copy a value
broke guy setup
GUD GUD what about uhhhhhhh
not bad tfa
change the network mod to nat
or bidge then try to do that
it is
yuppppppp
don' t let copy or you cant paste what you just copied
huh
sooo ur new /
attackbox copy paste problem?
yes i am
isnt there a clipboard section?
thats bcz its isolated
in attackbox?
it works like a different computer
yeah
have you on the virtualization in your host??
hell ooo you too lol
ohhhh grate nice to meet you
I dont have that problem you were talking about that so...
thank you
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you are not able to connect the vpn ri8?
I dont know windows VMS dont work copy paste. Linux does though
now its working. at least ping reaching. thx
Gave +1 Rep to @coarse sand (current: #2297 - 2)
Why you need more coffee?
to be focused
whats that mean ?
You have good taste in music πΆ
i was about to ask that lol
yupppp thanks !!
Gave +1 Rep to @hushed minnow (current: #3543 - 1)
even i dont know lol
do you people know about chai ??
from india?
yupppppppp
india
Where are you from?
oh, im from turkiye
I'm from India
ohhhhh grate nice
and our ppl also like chai
I know chai very well
guys i need friend cuz i dot have on related to cybersecurity
have u tried
how old r u
Drink daily brother im from India Maharashtra.π
18
wbu uh??
twinkle little star
I'm here then hindi boloo baaki
wot ............
youre older than me
phir ye log nahi samjhenge na
anyways whats your favorite section in cyber
they can just use google translator
talk only in english please
network pentesting
nice
Okayyyyyy
noo bro they are my friends too i want them understaand well
anyone loves reverse engineering/malware analysis? I suck at that
brooo ur stickers 
guys Is this channel for only cybersecurity or It would be off topic
Okay now tell what to say?
for real lol but how to use it im new so i dont know
nah this channel is for anything (as long as youre not breaking the rules)
Maybe you can go because it's say general chats so you can
its for everything
101% anything except cyber -1% for cyber
ok sir I will try to ask high quallity question
Cool, how can I forget my ex? Do you guys have any advice?
does that mean idk ..........??????//
Just make new oneπ
2 month passed
give it time
ur cool ........
bro just make another
but for some serious advice, look elsewhere
usss bro
what ever you want
Make one love her when she breaks your heart then remember her and then back to make to and love her when she breaks your heart remember her make one ...
wrong server bruh jk
this is why you shouldnt be looking for serious advice in this channel
I thought soπ
some serious stuff..........
just wait for trydateme.com to go live
lol hahhahhaha
guys is there any bug hunter ?
Afa
everyonr is working bruh
what u doing then
vibing
currently eating matcha ice cream topped with ebiko. it sounds so wrong but it felt so right
guys if i reset my room progess am I gonna lost any rank?
I don't think so. Try it and see
did u try before?
I have not
I acuallty lost

just complete the room again and youll be back to where you were
Nothing happens
Nor you will gain any points
just try to imgaine , if i reset all the rooms
why?

I mean I dont remember anything about blueteam
and I assumed I just have to start again
Thatswhy make notes
nah I acuallty took lots of notes however 2 month break was effected me so much
you dont need to reset the room to do it again
guys any advice for bug bounty hunter
quite
meow meow
join a bug hunting community
@sturdy sequoia any link ?
no idea. i dont do bug bounties
@sturdy sequoia gotcha
try here
however if u are planning to make some money from here , u should work hard
Thanks
all good
I wouldn't expect to make money from BB.
Streamers make it look easy because let's face it, they don't post their dupes, or bugs they don't submit. π
The only thing you lose is the answers.
oh thanks man
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whats that mean ????/
are you here?
always
reputation counter
for soc analyst which OS would you rather you have only one choose
Can u tell me some ??
no idea. i dont do blue teaming
ight its ok
Ohh okk why it's for ??
just internet points
Okkkk
Wow, seems you need to pay for both Premium and Business to be able to finish the SOC pathway... that is a bit devious
sir are you mainly focus on soc?
no money π
I was kidding sir u are right
u are paying some money for getting servis and they cooked
Pointless rep.
Awe, you mean?
Aws*
@umbral bay website seems to giving issues to some users now and then.
You new?
Yes, I'm new.
meow
bello Scrubz
Hai.
Welcome to the server, why the reactions though?
Wdym?
Heyy can anyone tell me why no one put their real picture as their pfp ????..
Why are you wearing a mask?
And quite clearly a cat.
why would i?
I asked cuz I want to put my real one
Feel free, however think of your own threat model and opsec.
Is it risky here ?? To put one ??
People can take your picture and then run if through various services and can find all profiles linked to you, (can do that with a username too).
Then you have social engineer etc.
In a public space you know is full of hackers?
It's really down to you.
Some members do it, some don't.
Some members reveal their name, some don't.
Like I said.
Your threat model and opsec.
I am
Really π
yes
Ohh cool
π π π

Hey yo
oh you already available in HTB Discord too

Yuppppp
I'm not new.
I lied.
Do I know uhh
you can check mah profile at this Discord
Why should I !!!
Still occurring or solved now?
Lmfao
if u want to ur choice tbh
better not but if you dont give a shit then yeah
yes
Guten Morgen
hiee this is viggi wtbu??
it's HexR here.
This is so sad, you made me look like a fool
Not a very good first impression
are you using that pawn box?

@kind linden are student or working
working, but i'm also a student.
Hey everyone, an easy question for you all to answer:
#infosec-general message
sure
The foundations of how computers think, work, and solve problems.
Hi all
Going to do some studying on thm :) see you in a bit.Good to be back
Hello team!
I've created a course on learning Linux. It's a beginner's course designed to give you the skills you need to get started in Cybersecurity or DevOps/Sysadmin. So I'm looking for people to critique my course π
. FYI, each chapter is linked to a Google form. You can also DM me with your feedback.
Course link: https://github.com/N0vachr0n0/Hands-on-Linux-course
Arigatoooo ππΎββοΈ
R u guys alive
I'm not sure
i'm alive
How'r uh all

Hi team β Iβm looking for guidance on which TryHackme labs best simulate end-to-end incident response rather than isolated alert triage. Iβm particularly interested in labs covering multi-stage attacker behaviour, Windows persistence (registry/services/tasks), timeline reconstruction, and stealthy or long-running compromises. Any recommendations for a small set of high-impact labs would be much appreciated
Heyy don't use that my ex use to call me with that gesture π
meow~

bark
π

Gg chat my cinnamon got fried 
Hawww it to early
time zones
so i did some benchmarking, and hashcat runs faster on terminal on my pixel 8 than my 2080 Ti+cuda lol
@polar spoke may be interested.
Where u from

australia
Owwww kkkk





lol
this is certainly either an error on the pixel or simply a misreading of the results

okiedokie
it also could be the extreme amount of security-related kernel flags i have enabled on linux
in some cases they affect performance
if that is case. i have hash for you to crack π
lol

it's most likely an issue with the pixel

android devices are in no way officially supported
and any runtime you do get working on android is almost certainly broken in a multitude of ways
might pixel have 2080+ gpu inside π
a stable opencl runtime on an android phone would be a miracle

its me π
π

jesus christ the website is up and down more than a yoyo today


Did you publish any of the code you built for hackathon?


most of them are there on my teammate's Github
my github has just personal projects since i cant put games on it , and those games aren't meant to be open source
it got ddosed again no ?

hru skittles
not sure, but since the league issues the site has been god awful, and up and down
You want to send us a link? Or DM if you don't want in whole server.
I'm going to mess around on https://mollyrocket.com/#handmade this year so thought I'd ask
it doesn't work for everyone or just my network bad
ye it still awful
Good morning everyone
i mean i get these things happen, but silence is deafening from the staff
It failed to load the page according to the screen shot
ye servers are cooked
this is the second time today?
4th for me, maybe 5th
try sudo ip link set dev wlan0 mtu 1200
it will send smaller size of data packets so maybe server can load
im joining the discord just to check the problem bruh
ty but ill rather go do smth else
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ok
i thought my network is bad
I am good, thank you for asking. How are you doing, Snowie?
Gave +1 Rep to @sick maple (current: #107 - 92)
thm down?
thm down
yup
DM me
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh the moment i locked in to finish some rooms
what this site about?
tryhackme crashing again
π
It's about game development in C/C++
is tryhackme down?
yea
they dont want me to reach adept 0x7
Is it only me or THM is crashing on a daily basis for the last week at least ?
yup
yea its broken rn
Yup not working for me too
Whoever answered, show yourself. I barely managed to understand the reply and now my terminal is dead I have to type everything again from scratch π And no one dare say βrepetition is the mother of learning
hopefully they can use the Announcement channel to updates users on what is going on
either some fanatic follower having fun broking thm or too much traffic rn, refresh in 10 minutes
HTB taking out the competition π
nice. I'm good skittles 
making some docs rn
lets fight back ? π
and what do they do with other People's Projects?
thm is down again?
yeah
π
Nothing, probably. They just make videos about the progress. I just like looking at other people's projects for inspiration and see how they put things together, I get ideas because their brains work differently and so they organize differently.
lol
Ok
Omg bru, i really want to buy premium but i cant
is 't me only who have a problem with the website ?
Wait so it isnt me?
thm is down
same π
I thought i have problems with my wifi
@pure steeple none of our games are open source ...so we dont have any over there tho, apart from that u can find the Web3/Blockchain projects
I dont have a bank account ππππ i have a lot of money, enough to buy the maximum premium but i cant
parents / friends
Hello everyone!

None of my friend have a bank account or trusty enough, my parents dont want to pay for these
give them the money that you have to use their bank acount and buy it
Hello Matt!

i want the maximum premium too pliz
Thatβs great. I am glad to hear that!
Im an asian.
we all want the maximum premium π
so am i
ni hao
Omg bru not chineseπ
is there is a problem with the website i can't get access to any room ?
ni hao, daijoubu desu ka π
yes, check announcements
IM NOT CHINESE BRU
hello
that's both chinese and japanese tho
wanakkam
LMAO
nani
Omg bruπ
okay thank you
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hello in tamil lol
its a 'v' tho not 'w'
Thanks for the meme
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Im taking that

can you skip the queue if you pay for maximum premium? π
is the thm down or what
Is the tryhackme site down.?
I think it is
yep ig
ya
is it about tryhackme or Cloudflare?
π
ohh its happening frequently
hahahaha lmaoooo
potato PC
Thm servers
a fire... at seaparks!
lot of trafic
i wish premium users Β΄d be prioritized by sys crashes. IΒ΄m in line at my room lol
my estimated wait time is 20 mins π
hopefully yeah..
those homelabs from tiktok
have this problem?
Mine is 3h and 30 mins
estimated wait time 46 mintes lmfao
just give it some time, check announcments.
Nvm 46 mins
mwans thm is booming with users
ok so it isnt just me lol
came here to check on this
WHat happened bruh
I tried being productive today bro why is tryhackme bugging
im back on it,
try using sudo ip link set dev wlan0 mtu 1200 for small number of packages
"Geniuses dont complain about environment"
i was just hyped to solve some ctfs after a while and this happening..
Don't freak out, guys, just because the server is temporarily unavailable.
lol and down again. π i guess i will finish stuff later...
nooooo
hype was gone, when I have motivation for The Cold Startπ₯
I WANT TO LEARN give me TryHackMe back 
Same
I want to study after doom scrolling for an hour and thm down, i guess imma skip one more day 
do some cisco
thm is down?
cloudflare is kidding dude
Ohhhh great idea
yo did you have any in mind?
thought i might try do a ctf after thm goes online
yea
Yes
gg
take it as a learn process, find out what happened.. π
Great idea
Wait it's cloudflare's problem AGAIN ????

the website is working for me now
2026 the downfall of cloudflare π
The potato is cooking
look cloudflare status
cloudfare getting ddos attacked again π₯
currently what im doing
It looks like an example of potato PC
that's the problem? I thought cloudflare holds the record for surviving the biggest DDOS or something
aura
AAAArgh, I got addicted. I want my daily dose of learning material back!
nah
jk
ugh lamew
These dudes survived a 30 TBps attack and are fumbling the bag because of their vibe coded configurations π
wait until he finds out about burnout...
yes, thm is down
On THM
They don't like you much
β€οΈ not a bad idea, but I'll just go through the side material. I actually loved that the rooms are full of links directing us outside the THMverse.
Is it THM problem or Cloudflare?
idrk
Well they are certainly not the first one
is it cloudfare?
ayo where is my room progress LMAO
i am unranked π
I disagree. I do like you personally.
what about me?
on a scale from 1 to 10
You are a lovely little fella. Solid 10
Well still you are not the first one but you sure are one of the rare ones π
Like a diamond in the rough. That's what you are my friend π
Thanks and I appreciate it
Gave +1 Rep to @topaz topaz (current: #165 - 63)
itz back
Yea it's up
Rejoice!!!
We most certainly do need an extension of the event's end date due to all these issues though
And this is why we don't push major updates on fridays π (jk)
Devs, note it down ^
SITE IS BACK! YEHAA
Morning
8 mins waiting time
Hi Toast, pleasant time zone
Is tryhackme off?
Ahh 6 min waiting by cloudflare..
whats with the waiting time?
Hahahahahahs
Its works noww
first time seeing this
yeah same
It's just temporary while they work on whatever issue was accidentally created. Queue tends to go faster than what it says. I started with a 2,5 hr queue and it was down to "you're in" within 2 minutes
I always wonder how they fix such issues
it's back online now
Man why is this year start of thm so much traffic
Hi π
dependent on whatever the issue is. Considering they had to enable cloudflare queue, im guessing it's a load/network issue. But that's outside my general expertise lol
devsecops for configuration and network pros i guess
listen to this and relax, they will fix it soon:https://open.spotify.com/track/3RiPr603aXAoi4GHyXx0uy?si=698c3de3f6fb4756
Or maybe an intern deployed smth in server and server for thm is not able to handle traffic
Roasting time!!!
Update: Hello everyone, we are aware of site performance and are working on getting it resolved.
Good luck π«‘
Good now we wait
Yep It worked
Now im able to use it
Are there any other colours?
Why am I in a waiting room, only to access THM?
Nope silver
Meanwhile, take a moment to answer a question from our Team:
#infosec-general message
https://open.spotify.com/track/4yFo0dWnAt5TTJ9IX0Z0CG?si=8c3349737ad744c9
listen to this and relax

I mean as a gif
Now thatβs a nice colour
I love pastel colours
ahh, i see
Noβ¦
is this a BOYS clip?
why, it sounds like cowboy bruh
Yes
No I donβt wanna know 
thatβs me sometimes lol
god that show is un-hinged. I can't watch it right now, too close to truth.
bro
dear lord cut the spam crap
Well....
I watched (completed) most shows in YouTube shorts 
I completed Game of Thrones in YouTube shorts
I guess somebody is misunderstood the concept and "trying to hack them"
i ffel like this while hacking an AD machine
Is it up and running yet?
Well it reminds me of this gif
did you really slapped me burh? You hurt me....π
nowadays it's hard do know who can do what
Hmm.....
I never had a chance to see that, because I chase away dogs before they come near to me
it need to hurt lol
Update: The site performance should be resolved. Please let us know if you continue to experience issues.
Thanks for the update!
the spotify spam fells like ppl with car that volume up all the time music crap. like some cares what you listen
π
Anyone who has a list of all Active Directory rooms? I have passed several of them, but I would like the final list...
I got HTB one
May you dm me that list, pls?
sure
If you need a fully auto mated AD enumerating bash tool then i can share that too
Sure, why not...
this one.
Also sometime you will face an issue, that everthing works fine and you tried to connect target AD with winrm but it always says timed out so you can use this script which will work with that ADenum.sh and create a kbr5config for you and you can export and use it for winrm shell, which will solve any furthur issue. Just to work with it save it as krb5.sh
Copy that
Do not forget the list of the rooms
i'd rather do it manually
Hello chat
Hello there
hello
Hello chat how you doing
Hello chat how u doing

I m fine wbu
Yeh
@cursive bone me and @signal ingot are new to ASMR can u give us recommendations
Giving my break time in the chat
πππ
And become an entrepreneur
The first semester is over
ill escape the matrix and then sell my course on Instagram
KNAAAWLEDGE
I m finally at debt

thank u 
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alr
Who is cmnatic
Sup sup
Ben

π€
Yo
hey
hello everyone, i have a question
can i do subdomain enumeration to single domain scope ex : example.com not the wildcard?
i try to find my first bug on hackerone, i really confuse about understanding the programs guidelines
Yes β you can do subdomain enumeration on a single-domain scope like example.com, but only under very specific conditions
if yous share conditions then i can specify
something wrong on thm's backend? or is it cloudflare, x is down too
the program guidelines said " do not brute force anything" so all i have to do is do passive subdomain enumeration using amass and subfinder right?
You can do subdomain enumeration. It's a part of enumeration not brute forcing. These guidelines point towards, not to use heavy tools which might generate huge traffic on there systems
Try not to use subfinder
it enumerate too fast
i ask deepseek, he said using ffuf, gobuster is part of bruteforcing bercause they send queries to targate server
thanks for your advice
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yes, but try not to use ffuf, or go buster for directory trvarsal in this case. It generates much more traffic. Mostly try to do mannual enumeration
best option is to use ```-rate 5
or reduce threads to 1 using ```-t 1
manual enumeration??? like using crt.sh and wayback??
Yup. I know it gonna take time. So use fuff like this query, i used to do it a lot:
-w wordlist.txt \
-t 1 \
-rate 5 \
-p 1
thank you guys @kind linden @signal ingot
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TRy this out, this guy says actuall truths
hiya can anyone help me setup headless on my raspberry pi? for some reason its not letting me ssh into it
what's showing it up?
Did you edit configs?
ssh: Could not resolve hostname raspberrypi.local: Name or service not known
yea
does anyone have any ideia why in the windows powershell room, there is a tutorial on how to connect via SSH to the target system using a UI, while in the previous room, Windows command line, we learn how to do it from the console??
I enabled ssh in the flash settings
add it to your host file /etc/hosts
that name raspberrypi.local
what's it showing you?
I still need to set mine up tbf so I'm not the best to help, but can you ping it just to confirm it's online
what loca IP does the pi have?
ssh: Could not resolve hostname raspberrypi.local: Name or service not known
this
try using the IP addr instead of the host name
yeah format it like <IP> raspberrypi.local
yes this also works sometimes
try ssh <username>@<pi IP addr>
He/she got host coudn't resolve issue. Means linux doesn't know where to locate target host
alr let me do that real quick
That's why have to update /etc/hosts file with IP and name of the host, or try IP directly
ill try both @kind linden @sick maple ^^ thank yall both!
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π₯²
HelloππΏ
Just a part of the chorus
Hello π
you too @stoic quarry :b
How u doin?
SlmππΏ
P good aye. Yourself?
thank you aswell @stoic quarry ^^
Gave +1 Rep to @stoic quarry (current: #117 - 87)
Doing alright
Nice nice
+rep @long plaza for thanking everyone
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Bro is learningπ₯Ίπ₯Ί
hi guys, how can i do to vinculate my level of tryhackme with the role in the server?
learning what 
I gotta set up my pi 0 soon
Use /verify
thanks you are the n1 π
Gave +1 Rep to @stoic quarry (current: #113 - 88)
@mellow goblet
Follow the above link ^
what does rep do?
Thanks @sick maple
Gave +1 Rep to @sick maple (current: #106 - 94)
Literally nothing
Valorant player for sure
makes sense
i remember that n1 term
nothing actually
Guess it's more of a show of how helpful you are on the server, but it does nothing. It's like reddit gold
How to speak like us
valorant stuff
Yeh
hey
Yeh
Yo!
noice
is the website still down ?
it's up now ig
Wa3alykomo slmππΏ
anyone uses figma ??
tried it
UX UI
Figma?
why
yup
Did it gave u an ipπ
it's localhost π
do you preffer figma or gemini or any other tool for developing and designing anthing
run a ddos attack on 127.0.0.1
Oh
gemini is an AI?
Hop on deep 
watch south park
it makes nice ui and also share the source code
Code
hop on shellshock
whats deep??
Gemini
there's a website called flowith ai. it's pretty good
you gotta try it
deepwoken
You install it and google search for a YouTube tutorial
hello wizz 
thats boring as hell
Do you know any other programming languages from before
do people actually learn like that tho
how are you?
Then what would you prefer?
Great to hear that
I used to learn html and css never got to js tho
It's an ai model? What makes it good?
I mean yeah ur right, Im just not in the mood for that rn
Very good, I'm glad that I start a winter break now
its ui designing is pretty good and it uses just plain html with js modules.
it's easy to work with






