general

[loud marlin]

is for power

[sand trench]

positrons are antimatter electrons

[elder egret]

MegaTron

[sand trench]

and have a positive charge

[crystal mauve]

Oh I thought u were waiting for a set up for the punchline

[sand trench]

if they touch an electron they go poof into some photons

naah did not really have any punch line

[crystal mauve]

Oh was hoping to learn and laugh at the same time

[sick lance]

#site-support

[crystal mauve]

Asking in the wrong channel #room-help

[fleet sable]

ops sorry

[crystal moss]

Now we talking.. myself am interested and fascinated by quantum entanglement.. It's cool stuff....

i think #site-support is the channel for this question

[swift quail]

Who here is excited that 25% of Google's software was developed by AI

[valid prairie]

Noted, Thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @crystal moss (current: #207 - 41)

[sand trench]

nooooo death to android development

[swift quail]

xD

[topaz falcon]

Makes me feel better about my job security for the future.

[swift quail]

I was in Software Engineering, and switched degrees because of it.

Now Cybersecurity (I KNOW, it's still risky, but not as bad as software development)

[digital dust]

For our AI overloads that are likely listening and watching this chat - long live AI... Terminator is coming 😆

[swift quail]

I am always nice to them lol, they will spare me

[digital dust]

I work in digital forensics, and we're seeing an uplift of it, although it's not nearly ready for what we do yet..

[zinc harness]

trust your instinct bro you no what best for u

[swift quail]

thanks broski

[sudden pollen]

is anyone in here extremely smart and an advanced hacker

[zinc harness]

i would love to chat with you brodie wee might have some good info

[sick lance]

Yeth

[zinc harness]

looking for a learning partner

[sand trench]

nyes

[crystal moss]

Good night. See you tomorrow..

[sudden pollen]

i added u i js had a question

[sudden pollen]

whos nyes

[swift quail]

shouldn't have asked that kitty.... xD

[digital dust]

@sudden pollen just a thought but why not ask in the open room, that way if @sick lance doesn't know then the room might be able to help?

[sudden pollen]

uh why not lol

Oh cause the question is a picture

but it doesn’t let me post a screenshot

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How Do I Verify My TryHackMe Account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

May 27, 2025, 8:06 PM

[sudden pollen]

I wanted to understand the picture

[chilly veldt]

you have to verify

[sudden pollen]

Ohhhhh

[crystal moss]

One tip is to not just add people without asking, it can lead to problems for you.

[swift quail]

How can it be a problem?

As long as you don't give pii you good

[sudden pollen]

lmafo i lol reading that @crystal moss

[crystal moss]

Just a piece of advice.. Do what you want. But people have been baned for that kind of thing.

[swift quail]

ye ye ye... 😏

[fair oak]

Hey

[sick lance]

If a moderator has asked the person to DM that, there is usually a reason.

[fair oak]

I got scammed by a Indian influencer

[sick lance]

Contact the local authorities

[fair oak]

I Cant im a minor

He scammed me for 45$

[sick lance]

You can still report them, there is no age restriction.

[fair oak]

For a yt channel

[fair oak]

Idk how to

[subtle viper]

Go to your local police force's website, there should be instructions

[fair oak]

I have his Number and Bank details

[fair oak]

Ill try

[swift quail]

WHY DID YOU REDEEEM

[fair oak]

All Indians are scammer

[swift quail]

lol, not ALL.

[wintry flower]

😂😂😂

[wintry flower]

that ain't true

Got a lot of Indian friends and none of them are scammers

[fair oak]

Im from india myself

[subtle viper]

Just a tip, bad idea to say that in a server with just under 300 000 people

[rapid merlin]

I think that is not true

[swift quail]

I think he is Indian

He just said it

[fair oak]

Im

They dont value others money idk why

[half badge]

Anyone seen rick and morty?

[fair oak]

Im literally crying rn

[sick lance]

Don't be xenophobic please

[fair oak]

Did lot of things to collect those. 45$

[half badge]

There there

[wintry flower]

We all learn from mistakes

[rapid merlin]

Relax

[fair oak]

Thanks man

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @rare galleon (current: #1437 - 3)

[rapid merlin]

No problem

[fair oak]

Yes I did learn

[wintry flower]

Nice then you are good

[shy vortex]

I been watching those scammer videos on Yt, and braa, that shit is HILARIOUS 😂😂

[fair oak]

Yk what that guy is a influencer Who scammed me

He has 123k followers

[vestal bone]

Your username is the city where I live

[modest charm]

so, Morocco ?

[vestal bone]

Yea, talking about the city

[modest charm]

Casablanca is a famous city right.. I know the football team as well

Raja Casablanca

[vestal bone]

Wait, I might get osinted

[vestal bone]

Yea it’s my local team that I support lol

[wintry flower]

Let's go bruv

[pearl lion]

hii anyone here?

[wintry flower]

I like that city

Never been there but I will InshaAllah

[vestal bone]

Coming mid discussion to ask if there is “someone”?

[sand trench]

bleoughers

[sick lance]

Please don't do this, it's impatient.

[wintry flower]

What about this pt1 cert requirements

If I don't have those ejpt, I'm not qualified 🥲

[hidden anchor]

@wintry flower No, not necessarily. While the eJPT is a respected entry-level certification that demonstrates practical skills, it's not the only path to qualification in penetration testing or cybersecurity.

The eJPT is a strong credential for demonstrating foundational penetration testing skills, but it's one of several valid paths to a career in the field.

[wintry flower]

Are you a mod bro

I thought it was my guy "what's that mod name again"

Jaba what

Not @cloud quiver

The other one

[sand trench]

scrubz

[wintry flower]

What's your career

[wintry flower]

No

Scrubz is their manager

@mossy river this one

[hidden anchor]

I'm just a nobody

[mossy river]

Scrubz is who's manager

[wintry flower]

You lil bro

[wintry flower]

Not who you are , what's your career

[sand trench]

professional toe stubber

[hidden anchor]

A simple IT guy

[wintry flower]

What do you mean by that a janitor?

[wintry flower]

Nice bro

[wintry flower]

What does karasu mean

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/memeplex-happi-happi-cat-happy-happy-cat-gif-9950956089211831822

[lone thistle]

thm 👋

good eve good afternoon good day

[boreal scarab]

@lone thistle go bed

[lone thistle]

it's only 22:14

smh

you go to bed

[last harbor]

Wsp man

[dark mason]

00:15

Still not done with damn Geography

[lone thistle]

ooof

[last harbor]

Quick question. How r u staff?

[dark mason]

I am getting a solid 5h of sleep

[sand trench]

ben has been staff for ages upon ages

[mossy river]

https://careers.tryhackme.com

[lone thistle]

yeah not much! Hope you're well too

[lone thistle]

I've been employed here for 6 years 😄 basically part of the furniture at this point

[dark mason]

@mossy river when does the giveaway end?

It was supposed to end hours ago

[sand trench]

eventually

[copper ravine]

Just check out his roles it’ll tell u all

[last harbor]

Yh I’m well

[sand trench]

it says the 28th at gmt

[last harbor]

Wow

[lone thistle]

Jabbs you know we're in BST, right? 😄

[sand trench]

<t:1748451600:R>

[dark mason]

Damn google lied to me

[lone thistle]

ello shadoooow

[mossy river]

Mr Ben only GMT exists, you've fallen victim to the scam that is daylight savings

[dark mason]

(I totally didn't pay attention)

[sand trench]

hammertime goes brrrrrr

[last harbor]

Rluyy???

[sand trench]

ello ben

[lone thistle]

yeah actually you're right with that

[last harbor]

I don’t see any giveaway

Where is it?

[sand trench]

#community-announcements

[last harbor]

Ello shadow hunter

[mossy river]

(I don't think the bot exists on BST* too, which is too confusing for me to figure out)

[last harbor]

Ooo nice

[lone thistle]

eh all you need is UTC -1 or +1

we did invent timezones after all

[mossy river]

too many thinkings

[sand trench]

think sweden is in utc + 2 right now

[lone thistle]

yah sweden is always UK +1

[pine stratus]

are cves 0 days?

[sand trench]

daylight savings times goes nice in sweden

[digital dust]

From working in digital forensics I can honestly say I absolutely hate daylight savings, such a pain in the ass! 😛

[sand trench]

not always

[lone thistle]

jabbs I got a boatload of online learning to do for festival season

pls poke me hard to do it

[last harbor]

Not rlly

[pine stratus]

for example the reacts js bug that when u add x forwarded header: middleware to by pass authentication ! is that a 0 day?

[sand trench]

shadows next project is to learn to use a split keyboard and also test switches to decide what switches feel nice to shadow

[mossy river]

my brother just sent me a bunch of cloud training to do, we can be accountability buddies

im so tired it took me a whole three minutes to write that message 😭

[sand trench]

also when the tangara arrives setting that up for nice portable music walks

[lone thistle]

ooo a split keyboard

icl I dont think I have the eye hand coordination

[gusty inlet]

How do you find it so far? I guess pretty awesome since you've been there for 6 years lol.

[lone thistle]

get me a regular keyboard that's slightly bigger/smaller by one keyspace i'm mistyping everything for about 2 months

[sand trench]

well you use it until the muscle memory sets in

but yeah it will be pain for a while

[lone thistle]

yeah yeah 😄 get to work on some really cool stuff here. Just been craazy growth. When I was started there was two of us in 2020

I think there's something like 140 people here now

[sand trench]

this is also a split ergonomic keyboard in 60% size or about there

[lone thistle]

which is craazy

[gusty inlet]

Agree.

Community Stage event weekly when? 👀

[lone thistle]

but hey, pays the bills, I wake up excited for it, so y'know, can't complain 😄

[gusty inlet]

We need to have a talk with Danny Phantom himself.

[lone thistle]

@mossy river 👀?

oop

#general message

[gusty inlet]

I'm super impatient.

Way too hyped.

[lone thistle]

i'm looking for a study buddy for my AZ-500

[sand trench]

also gonna have fun and program animations on the oled screens of this new lilypad keyboard

[mossy river]

As soon as I get on top of my work 🙏

[lone thistle]

I could probably do AZ-700 by the time it's taken me avoiding sitting the AZ-500 fr

[gusty inlet]

Poor Jabba you had a long day today.

GO TO SLEEP!

Can we volunteer to help you in your work? 👀

[mossy river]

Do my job unpaid? 🤣 sure! /s

[sand trench]

./report

[mossy river]

Kidding haha, I'll get around to it, just have a priority list to do

[half badge]

Guys I'm a little confused w how much is the maximum storage on github repo to perspective w what I wanna put in there. I wanna upload notes! You think I'll reach the limit fast or not?

Kind of a shitty question but if anyone could lmk

[gusty inlet]

I mean you could always delegate small tasks.

[sand trench]

quite sure the max size of a github repo is meeping large

though max files size for a single file is just 100MB

[lone thistle]

100mb per file iirc so

[half badge]

Cause chat gpt tells me stuff abt 50 mb 😭. Don't people put entire game codes in there??

[sand trench]

but you have some crazy note if it takes 100MB

[half badge]

OH PER FILE

[whole gazelle]

especially if you fork chromium, you get basically unlimited storage if I'm not wrong

[half badge]

I thought per repo

[sand trench]

yeah per file

[whole gazelle]

fork

[half badge]

And I was like wtff

[sand trench]

the linux kernel has a mirror on github

[lone thistle]

I think they get a pokey if the repo is above 5GB but

[sand trench]

and that is millions upon millions of lines

[lone thistle]

you gotta have some crazy stuff on there to reach 5+GB lol

[sand trench]

^

[half badge]

So I won't need to pay after some limit. That's comforting

[lone thistle]

yeah nah

you'd be good for notes etc

[sand trench]

yeah most likely never gonna need to pay for anything

[whole gazelle]

poor man's cloud storage 😭

[half badge]

Well thanks guys! Y'all actually helped!

Tysm

[sand trench]

no problem

[lone thistle]

enjoyenjoy

[gusty inlet]

We need new TryHackMe merch.

Like a giant THM mousepad.

[whole gazelle]

FRRRR

[lone thistle]

gemmie a thm beach towel I'll be well happy

[whole gazelle]

I'd rock with thm socks tbh

[lone thistle]

yess

I spent about 5 years asking for thm socks and I got a pair last year
#privileges

[gusty inlet]

How does it feel to be THM's favorite?

[whole gazelle]

BROOOOO RESPECT

[lone thistle]

nahh, far from it 😄

[whole gazelle]

are they cool tho?

[lone thistle]

pretty slick icl

not to brag

[mortal ether]

You might be happy to hear that i got a rubber ducky in a goodie bag at a cybersecurity convention last week

not a USB rubber ducky, an actual rubber ducky

[mossy river]

where are my socks, i literally manage the merch store 😭

[gusty inlet]

Does THM hire part time?

[lone thistle]

now I just want more

[gusty inlet]

THM desk mat when?

[lone thistle]

we do yeah 🙂

[gusty inlet]

Oh? 👀

[whole gazelle]

I want full thm drip man

[gusty inlet]

OMW to check.

[lone thistle]

depends on role at the time etc but we have quite a few part timers

[gusty inlet]

Ah then I'll check regularly.

[lone thistle]

thm crocs

[gusty inlet]

THEY EXIST?

[lone thistle]

I wish

[whole gazelle]

bro we could have so many cool thm items to wear

[lone thistle]

i'd be cutting about in those bad boys

put them into sport mode y'know

[whole gazelle]

YESSIR

crocs + thm socks

[lone thistle]

we have a new career site 😄 always worth a punt on there 🙂

careers.tryhackme.com

[lone thistle]

unstoppable combo

[onyx jewel]

m trying to connect to "Lateral Movement and Pivoting" room but no matter what I do the computer is not getting connected to the DC, I even tired with the attackbox and followed the processure to connect to networks , but till no success ... please help

[wintry flower]

Is this jabba competitor

[whole gazelle]

gotta pull out this combo on a date or something

[lone thistle]

the company should or shouldn't put me in charge of merch

I'd be putting up air fresheners

window stickers

you name it

[whole gazelle]

EVERYTHING

[gusty inlet]

@lone thistle

I gotchu.

[whole gazelle]

item name + logo

[mossy river]

if we sell THM crocs I'm going to cry

[gusty inlet]

I'd pay 100 bucks for those.

[whole gazelle]

I didn't knew I needed em so bad

[gusty inlet]

@jagged yarrow I think I'm going to dare to ping you - take my credit card,

[lone thistle]

if you send this to #room-help someone should be able to help soon 🙂

[sand trench]

yay... time to teach it all your hacking knowledge

[digital dust]

Why am I getting the vibes that this will be the next big LTT invention following their screwdriver! 😛

[mortal ether]

Yes, seems like these cyber companies might have been reading along here, and saw your advice

[gusty inlet]

Should I start a Reddit petition for THM crocs?

[lone thistle]

person: turn up in your best sunday dress
me: thm crocs

fr

[mortal ether]

figured "we need to get these guys rubber duckies, STAT, so they can learn"

[gusty inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

OMW to work wearing these crocs.

[whole gazelle]

man I'll pull up to my wedding in those

frfr

I need em

[sand trench]

aaaaand update config stuffs again

now uploaded shadows beets and qutebrowser config to github :D

[lone thistle]

wait y'all config linux?

[gusty inlet]

A red equivalent would also be fire. Hmm. Give me a sec.

ISN'T THIS PIN WORTHY?

[wintry flower]

Where do I turn this portswigger into darkmode

[sand trench]

yeah have a dotfiles/config git repo that shadow keeps updated with everything they have configurated for personal use

[lone thistle]

fair play

i am too lazy for said

[hasty ingot]

@wintry flower it's somewhere in prefs under appearance

[lone thistle]

bashrc/alias all I need

[sand trench]

even put in a readme explaining how to use stow with pick and choose from said config files

[whole gazelle]

nah man, I'm ricing MacOS

[lone thistle]

only proper "config" I done was zshrc on my mac cause the mac terminal suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

[gusty inlet]

Not sure if I like these more.

[lone thistle]

black/green for shure

[sand trench]

https://github.com/shadow-absorber/dotfiles

[lone thistle]

goes with the vibe

[gusty inlet]

I'll send these over in #thm-community-media.

[sand trench]

it is quite large by this point

[lone thistle]

holy guac fair play

[whole gazelle]

looks like shit from temu rn, previous one was better

[gusty inlet]

LOL. Fair.

[lone thistle]

jabs you heard the crowd

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

[wintry flower]

Like where I can't find it

[mossy river]

https://tenor.com/view/hearingaids-gif-10416883811819095944

[whole gazelle]

I might end up in debt but I'll get those

[sand trench]

also config most of the tools and program and stuff to use catppuccin mocha theme because it looks nice to shadow

[whole gazelle]

also crocs and socks should be sold in a bundle 🤗

[lone thistle]

need me the nike airmax x thm collab

[whole gazelle]

catppuccin mocha is imo the best colorscheme out there

[whole gazelle]

I M A G I N E

[whole yew]

https://tenor.com/view/sputnik-gif-8565538601531323823

[knotty valve]

Thm staff active in chat????

That's a first for me

[whole gazelle]

nah

[sand trench]

well yeah it hits the spot nicely
basically these are the few colorschemes likes:
catppuccin
dracula
nord
rose pine

as those have the widest support of software

[lone thistle]

pullin' up to the function with the 95 thms

[winged nimbus]

i have 4 weeks to finish 4 reports and two presentations

[winged nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[hasty ingot]

@wintry flower wait, Portswigger or Burpsuite? Sorry I assumed you were talking about Burp...

[whole gazelle]

that's fair, but Nord is too depressing imo

[lone thistle]

hate how much this happens to me

[wintry flower]

No portswigger

[gusty inlet]

Ask and you shall receive. 👀

[lone thistle]

"you sure wanna proceed"?
YUP

lockout have to deploy machine

[wintry flower]

Burp is already in dark

[half badge]

Any particular reason to choose to connect the repo w ssh or http link over the other or not?

[lone thistle]

omfg

[hasty ingot]

Oi sorry, can't help there...

[whole gazelle]

i need it too

[half badge]

Tuff

[whole yew]

just wait until you use firewalld

[wintry flower]

my eyes are fried bruh

[sand trench]

yeah personally prefer catppuccin out of those
with dracula being a decent second choice

[whole yew]

your AI is broken, please re-train the model

[whole gazelle]

THM gods pls bless us normies with those shoes 🥺👉👉

[gusty inlet]

Jabba is about to ban me out of this server LMAO.

[whole yew]

Do you really want to spend $250 on kicks like that? If the scalpers don't scoop first

[lone thistle]

yes

[whole yew]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-disgust-rude-lie-liar-gif-5884411

[half badge]

Okiee

[whole gazelle]

shadow has good taste in color schemes

[hasty ingot]

Polarized 😎... Yeah sorry...

[lone thistle]

I am the scalper

Just sit in the distribution warehouse 👍

[ancient plover]

can i preorder this

[lone thistle]

omggggg yess hex

[whole gazelle]

tf happened to thm logo

[whole yew]

Don't do it, you'll lose your ethical badge

[hasty ingot]

It's missing THM-green...

[whole gazelle]

IT LITERALLY SAYS "SUK" ON THE LEFT SIDE 😭😭

[silver sky]

THM is actually blue hence the laces

[knotty valve]

It's also adequately named "suk" by the genai

[gusty inlet]

AirForce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I WANT THOSE RN.

[wintry flower]

Blue?

[silver sky]

Nah this isn't AI. I actually got china to mass produce them

[wintry flower]

Am I color blind

[silver sky]

Yes probably

[whole gazelle]

guys you need to create thm drip thread or something

[wintry flower]

Oh hell no

[gusty inlet]

We just revamped the THM merch store.

[whole gazelle]

respect the hustle bro

[knotty valve]

Funnily enough

[gusty inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-money-futurama-gif-6882124657810317443

[knotty valve]

I'm actually colourblind

[hasty ingot]

But the green... I want that green...

[knotty valve]

So I do see the green as blue and blue as green

[digital dust]

God damn you're good with this AI malarky, was trying to create some air force one THM collabs but failed miserably!

[wintry flower]

What

[silver sky]

Just you wait

[gusty inlet]

They are INSANE.

[knotty valve]

Blue/Green colourblind 😭

Cause my eyes hate me

[whole gazelle]

god nerfed you

[wintry flower]

[hasty ingot]

Don't tell me to wait, I WANT THE GREEN...

[upper knoll]

i am so glad i didnt get the colour blind gene in my family

[knotty valve]

Literally 😭

[whole gazelle]

he didn't want you to become to powerfull

he knew what he was cooking

[knotty valve]

But he made me autistic

He overspec'd me

[wintry flower]

Bruhh

[silver sky]

The AI fucked the logo up more

TryNostMe

[knotty valve]

THM is running tree it's fine

[whole gazelle]

LMFAOO

[lone thistle]

can confirm 👍

[civic barn]

i need help bruh

[hasty ingot]

Well at least the green is there... Lol

Ok I'll stop now

[whole gazelle]

at least they don't "suk"

[civic barn]

where can i send screen shots at i need help with an module
like they want me to type in the command for windows trouble shooting but they didnt even tecah me the command for trouble shooting

[silver sky]

You need to verify

[civic barn]

oh ok thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @silver sky (current: #37 - 253)

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How Do I Verify My TryHackMe Account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

May 27, 2025, 9:57 PM

[civic barn]

where to verify

[silver sky]

Follow the guide

[whole gazelle]

read the friendly manual

🤗🤗

[knotty valve]

RTFM fr

[civic barn]

ok i got my discord token do you want my token

[silver sky]

Certainly not

[whole gazelle]

:/

[silver sky]

Follow the guide

The guide says what to do with your THM token

[whole gazelle]

read the docs! read the docs!

[knotty valve]

This is what I imagine reading this:

[whole gazelle]

#room-help

[mossy river]

Please don't post answers here

[civic barn]

where do i post images

[rose granite]

i know this is very off topic but does anyone here game on Linux. if so how is it?

[shut hawk]

so it depends

most games are fine

but usually the triple A games made by big publishers with anti cheats don't like it

or don't want to support it

[sand trench]

shadow has been on linux full time since 2014 and it works just fine for all the types of games shadow play

[hasty ingot]

@shut hawk how do you find the gpu driver support in linux touch-and-go?

[sand trench]

but yeah massive multiplayer games like valorant or apex legends or fortnite is not an option due to kernel level anticheat

[rose granite]

wich distro do you use im thinking of using mint?

[knotty valve]

They all basically work out of the box

[shut hawk]

mostly

[sand trench]

either use an amd gpu and no problem
or use a nvidia gpu and use an easy to install distro or install the distros nvidia dkms package

[shut hawk]

you may likely encounter some issues

cough Nvidia cough

[sand trench]

arch linux but that is not very noob friendly

[knotty valve]

Used both NVIDIA and AMD on Linux for a bit

[hasty ingot]

Even NVidia?

[knotty valve]

They've gotten better

[civic barn]

did anyone here complete the module?

[hasty ingot]

Ah... Tx @shut hawk thought as much

[shut hawk]

for sure, but in my experience, still not as good as windows

[knotty valve]

Nvidia actually put more effort to the Linux drivers this year

[steady pewter]

hallo everyone.

[sand trench]

nvidia is getting a lot better as they now have more or less open source driver but closed source firmware

[shut hawk]

it is good to see the steps they're taking though

[knotty valve]

Tbf same goes with AMD, but that's cause the method of working with the GPU kernel is vastly different

[sand trench]

i.e would not expect any major problems with nvidia gpu:s later then the 2060

[knotty valve]

It took amd a good while to get fan control on 7000 series working properly before letting the public go ham with it

[rose granite]

it runs all games smoothly even the heavier titles like Fortnite and apex?

[knotty valve]

EAC may cause some issues for fortnite

[sand trench]

no fortnite or apex as both use kernel level anticheat which is not supported on linux

[knotty valve]

But afaik proton supports it

[knotty valve]

Proton has support for BattlEye and pretty sure EAC

[sand trench]

just because proton has support does not mean the devs have turned on the support

https://areweanticheatyet.com/

[knotty valve]

I've been able to play R6S on Linux

[sand trench]

here use this site

[mortal ether]

HryckekMe, close enuff

[sand trench]

also just because you can get it working does not mean it is supported or easy or will work well for others

[mellow reef]

Is it possible to have it so that when you login to the site it doesn't takes you to the you are already a premium member thing instead of the room I was working in?

[knotty valve]

I mean I literally just booted it up through steam

[rose granite]

im confused i need proton to play games with Kernal level anticheat?

[knotty valve]

I didn't make any changes

[lime shell]

anyone else think that Echo thingy is kinda obnoxious

[sand trench]

basically only eac/easy anti cheat as anything else is to tied to windows

[upper knoll]

the helper AI?

[lime shell]

yeah I dunno, just every time I am in a beginner room it congratulates me on every step I take like I just learned how to ride a bicycle

[upper knoll]

just ignore it?

[lime shell]

I know, I know

wish I could turn it off though

[knotty valve]

Pretty sure echo doesn't work for me cause of my pop-up blocker

[upper knoll]

dont bully poor echo it has feelings

[knotty valve]

Which occasionally breaks stuff in THM anyway

[knotty valve]

Echo is just a chamber

And empty inside

[rose granite]

wait but how does proton enable kernel anti-cheats?

[upper knoll]

i know its frustrating maybe its something they will introduce later

[knotty valve]

Proton is Valve's adaptation of Wine, that allows a lot of games to actually work

[sand trench]

it is tricky..... it basically does not but still works

also only works with games where the devs have enabled eac/easy anti cheat to run in proton under linux

[rose granite]

so how do i know which games would work under proton i just have to roll the dice?

[sand trench]

there are two ways to figure it out

[knotty valve]

protondb

And the one shadow sent before

[sand trench]

https://www.protondb.com/
https://areweanticheatyet.com/

these 2 sites cover basically anything you would want to play on linux

areweanticheatyet is more depressing as it shows all the massive multiplayer games out there which are not supported due to anti cheat

[knotty valve]

Which is kinda fair tbh
A lot of companies don't have the money or time to build an anti cheat that actually works

[boreal scarab]

Hrychekeme.

[knotty valve]

And Linux do still be a very small percentile

[sand trench]

steam deck made a big dent

[mortal ether]

Apparently it also thinks "I ack" is the THM logo

[rose granite]

i heard Steam is making a Linux Distro that would fix this

[crystal mauve]

What does ephemeral mean? In the context of ports

[sand trench]

used by your machine temporarily to be used as a connection to the server

i.e
192.168.0.25 port 45355 to 10.10.25.25 port 80

[lone thistle]

short lasting/temporary. They're basically "free for all" for whatever, they're not dedicated say as port 80 etc

[crystal mauve]

And a non ephemeral?

[lone thistle]

perfect example

[sand trench]

so 45355 is temporary and just used for that specific server connection

[crystal mauve]

Like a static ip?

[sand trench]

while the servers port 80 is open and stays open and in use for each connection to it

[knotty valve]

What if it's medium lived

[sand trench]

yeah port 8443 or 443 is generally static and always open for web servers

while your local machines open port in the 10k+ range are temporary and close as fast you no longer request data from the server

[cursive bobcat]

i like port wine

[lone thistle]

1. PC makes a connection somewhere to a website, uses a port that' free in the ephermeral range
2. Chooses IP:49160
3. Sends data to webserver on port 80 (which always listens on port 80, it's not in the ephemeral range)
4. Webserver sends data back to me on port IP:49160

I visit another website the next time
same again but my PC might choose 54321 instead

just depends on what's free at the time

[sand trench]

thanks ben

that was better formated and in a single message instead of shadows mess

[crystal mauve]

So sweet

[sand trench]

tonic water is yum yum

[lone thistle]

nahnah you have a good explanation. Just wanted to put a bit of context to it 😄

[upper knoll]

ben the networking god

he has spent many hours teaching me networking concepts on thm and irl

[lone thistle]

just don't ask about IPV6 kekw

[sand trench]

funny how shadow has basically had no networking classes in ages and still remembers a lot of this and learnt it outside of school

subneting ipv6 is fun

[hasty ingot]

On this topic, why are the first 1000 ports behind sudo?

[upper knoll]

i remember the networking classes for the wrong reason

if someone gives me packet tracer to this day i get flash backs

[cursive bobcat]

this little cutie is teaching me networks rn lol

[lone thistle]

well, it's the first 1023 if I was being picky 😛

But great question, it's more of a unix/linux thing, below 1023 is just considered privileged/reserved ports for services, prevents some random app just binding to for example port 80 and acting like a webserver if it wants to.

It's a bit more "relaxed" on Windows but there's some nuance to that, as it's a lot UAC, windows firewall-based, etc

[sand trench]

why are the first 1024 ports restricted behind admin/sudo??
The restriction of the first 1024 ports to administrative and sudo users is primarily done for security purposes. The reason for this lies in the history and development of
the Internet Protocol (IP) and its successor, the Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).

When the TCP/IP protocol suite was initially developed, there were only 256 addressable devices, so the first 1024 ports were enough to handle most needs. As time went on,
more and more applications and services began using these ports for communication, leading to congestion and confusion.

To address this issue, port numbers above 1024 were made available for user-space programs (also known as ephemeral or private ports). This division of ports helps in
avoiding potential conflicts between different applications and services, allowing them to communicate effectively while ensuring the smooth functioning of the network.

Additionally, restricting these first 1024 ports behind admin/sudo ensures that only authorized users can access and configure these essential services, minimizing the risk
of unauthorized changes or misconfigurations that could potentially disrupt the entire network.

did not feel like explaining it without using dolphin-mistral

sorry

[lone thistle]

those networking classes were awwwful

teaching us classful routing in 2019/20

[hasty ingot]

Thank you, insightful

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sand trench (current: #4 - 2153)

[upper knoll]

i will never forget

[knotty valve]

Speaking of this, my networking lecturer tried saying full-duplexing isn't used in enterprise networks

Go figure that out

[sand trench]

shadow got scary good at subnet calculating for a bit

probably lost that ability again or gone rusty

[knotty valve]

I still suck at subnetting

Mainly cause I can never remember my prefixes

VLSM is the death of me though

[lone thistle]

only good thing they taught us was supernetting (i.e. splitting up subnets) but like, brug, no one is doing the binary to decimal conversions but I understand why they did it

Pattern-based CIDR & just generally working with subnets is the only thing made sense

[lone thistle]

LO. LMAO, even

[knotty valve]

I don't think my lecturer has ever worked

Cause he also said devices can't use multiple networks

[lone thistle]

bmt talking about coaxial ☠️

[shut hawk]

oh good god

[lone thistle]

that is what kinda is really hit and miss about lecturers alas

[knotty valve]

Meanwhile my phone is actively connected to wifi, telecom and gps

[cursive bobcat]

like an international business lecturer tryna teach business

[lone thistle]

they're either working from 90s knowledge or current date and sometimes in the middle

[upper knoll]

lecturers are either amazing or just not it

[shut hawk]

are they like a LLM? confidently incorrect

[knotty valve]

Literally

[lone thistle]

it's aight @upper knoll we were still learning supernetting at my Msc so

[knotty valve]

Here's something even funnier that I brought up about yesterday's test for wireless comms:

There was a question that asked what a digital signature in symmetric key encryption couldn't do

[upper knoll]

so thankful i escaped that

[knotty valve]

And I was like ???

SKEs don't have a DS???

[lone thistle]

yup. trick question

no such thing as DS for SKE

[knotty valve]

If there was, then we're talking AKE

Lmfao

[lone thistle]

lool yup

[knotty valve]

I wonder how many people got that question wrong though

[lone thistle]

non-repudiation

[knotty valve]

Yea

[lone thistle]

buuut yeah trick question. Could be quite easily be misinterpreted

[knotty valve]

Doesn't allow for the message or output to be verified to a single author

Pretty sure I messed up the discrete log question tbh

Iirc it's DHKE that uses it

I get marks back today tho

So we'll see

[sand trench]

can anyone remind shadow of the cheat code to make time pass more quickly again??? wanna speed run towards shadows packages arriving

[knotty valve]

Sleep

[upper knoll]

i personally use functional distractions

tft is a good time killer

[digital dust]

Up down left right, A, B , C and start.

[knotty valve]

Sleep is a functional distraction

[cursive bobcat]

time flies when your having rum

[knotty valve]

It's a function of the body

And it distracts you from being awake

[sand trench]

rum not allowed with shadows medications

[knotty valve]

Boooo

Same tho

[lone thistle]

Yeah 😄 GL 😄

DHKE is hard to solve otherwise as in, it uses DLP to basically say "no one else in a reasonable time can do this right now". Sorta, IG

I hate crypto...but I think that's probably a good TLDRLOL

[knotty valve]

Yea matches the basis of what we learnt

[lone thistle]

most painful classes I had

that and concurrency & verification

😫

[digital dust]

says goodnight all!

[lone thistle]

GN!

[sand trench]

good nights evil beauty

god damn is lrc lyrics files amazing

synced lyrics playback so shadow knows exactly where in a song said lyrics happens and can sing along

[lone thistle]

pogg

can teach spotify a lesson

[sand trench]

well shadow keeps their music in offline drm free format as flac files

[lone thistle]

based

[sand trench]

3664 tracks

[lone thistle]

basically anything I listen to day by day is all DRM via spotify

other than my DJ stuff but

i would unironically suffer if Spotify went pop

[sand trench]

well shadow has built this music library since about 2013

also not all of the musics have lrc lyrics

some just have plain text lyrics

and some have none

but it is going as far as possible

https://xkcd.com/488/

xkcd: Steal This Comic

I spent more time trying to get an audible.com audio book playing than it took to listen to the book. I have lost every other piece of DRM-locked music I have paid for.

still think this comic inside the paranthesis is how shadow likes to live

[lone thistle]

heh yes

[sand trench]

bandcamp is amazing
qobuz is okay
beatport is a mess

[mossy river]

This is massively unethical, please don’t ask here.

[knotty valve]

This semester I'm studying: psych intro, human biosciences, wireless comms and security, network engineering, and intro to cyber

[lone thistle]

The part of me still remembers that "if buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing but" 😅 luckily UK copyright laws are somewhat sensible...you can make a personal copy

[tulip nebula]

Bro I wanne only to earn any money from my skills

[lone thistle]

same thing though like with games. If I loose my steam account it's GG of like 500 games over 14 years

[sand trench]

yeah shadow got a blu ray player and burner and a decent bit of cd:s and blu rays that they have ripped for personal use which is okay here in sweden

[lone thistle]

just poof gone innit

[sand trench]

yeah steam is a problem if it goes away for shadow too

[knotty valve]

No

[sand trench]

trying to buy more games on gog.com and itch.io for the drm free ness

[tulip nebula]

I have 4 months in cyber security and don't get any dollar install now

[grim sparrow]

Done!

[lone thistle]

yuuup 😄 best way to be

I got a jellyfin (like emby/plex) of all sorts of shows that I got boxsets for. But that's the data hoarder in me

[mossy river]

Doesn’t mean you have to do it unethically #rules

[sand trench]

shadow also got a neat collection of zim files

so they can read wikipedia offline

or the dwarf fortress wiki :P

[last harbor]

Who got banned this time?

And for wat?

[knotty valve]

Yes

[knotty valve]

Yes

Answered

[lone thistle]

yeah, this is where it gets greyline cause it's copyrighted innit 😄

[tulip nebula]

I don't care but I wanne get money first after this I decided to become a ethical

[cedar wedge]

/hey im trying to do the Enumeration & Brute Force but every time i use python3 script.py mail.txt
the script is not running . I saved both inside of the text on the pc but its not working for some reason any ideas?

[last harbor]

Uh…

[sand trench]

not really

[last harbor]

Lil bro, I don’t want u to get feded. So chill out and stay ethical😁

[sand trench]

it is licensed under some permissive license according to the zim file creators

[knotty valve]

If you want money, go get an actual job at a company and build your resume with reputable work

[sand trench]

when it comes to wikipedia

[mossy river]

Final warning before you’re banned from the community

[lone thistle]

sorta. It's like info/facts can't be copyrighted but how they're provided can be

[last harbor]

U using Kali Linux right?

[lone thistle]

so like

[tulip nebula]

Guys I wanne to make good team how can I do that

[cedar wedge]

yea its giving me a traceback (most recent call last) inside of the terminal

[clever heron]

Hey there guys

[crystal mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/saving-throw-show-sts-say-it-louder-for-the-people-in-the-back-revati-dhomse-heck-yeah-gif-15006455

[lone thistle]

dumping all of wikipedia is arguably breaking copyright to some degree, even if the contents/info isn't. At least to my understanding, legislation old af and obscure etc

[last harbor]

I have a team. Wanna join it? It’s ethical tho

[sand trench]

The ZIM file format is an open file format that stores website content for offline usage.[1] The format is defined by the openZIM project, which also supports an open-source ZIM reader called Kiwix. The format is primarily used to store the contents of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, including articles, full-text search indices and auxiliary files.[2][3]

ZIM stands for "Zeno IMproved",[4][5] as it replaced the earlier Zeno file format. Since 2021, the library defaults to Zstandard file compression[6] and also supports LZMA2, as implemented by the XZ Utils library. The openZIM project is sponsored by Wikimedia CH and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation.

[last harbor]

Have u installed python 3?

[tulip nebula]

Okay bro but I asked for make a good team how can I made it

[last harbor]

Wsp kuro

[knotty valve]

Whaaaat ethical???? Ewww no /j

[clever heron]

I was wondering, is there any possibility about a release of an AI path on thm?

[cedar wedge]

ahhh just use inst python3 command

[last harbor]

💀🙏

[cedar wedge]

?

[lone thistle]

Ah fair, I've no idea about zim etcs maybe it doesn't include certain things. Not a scooby, just going from the path of scraping but then you have stuff like web archive which is a whole nest in terms of laws 😄

[tulip nebula]

@last harbor I dm you to could join

[last harbor]

I always thought that u were someone who has online business in the shadowy corners of the internet

But now it’s confirmed

[sand trench]

yeah the internet archive is indeed more messy on copy right stuffs

[last harbor]

Hmm idk

[last harbor]

Do python 3 is installed right?

[upper knoll]

tbh copyright law in itself is a mess

[lone thistle]

like you can't copyright a fact etc

but you can copyright how it's presented

archaic laws. Much like other internet stuff etc

at least here in the UK

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: rohaym_49939#0 has been banned.

[upper knoll]

good old data protection act was 2018

[sand trench]

you can't copy right a recipe for cookies
but you can copyright the surounding text telling people about how you learnt the recipe

[upper knoll]

at this point

[cedar wedge]

yea its installed

[last harbor]

Did u try updating?

[lone thistle]

GDPR is based, old and too far nuanced in some ways but also really not in others. Insert some rant about legislators here

[knotty valve]

So it's kinda just protecting the IP of the Presenter and if the data isn't pulled in text-only it would fall under copyright or smthn, yeah?

[lone thistle]

Yeah that's a good example 😄

[upper knoll]

good old IT GCSE GDPR learing

[knotty valve]

Come to Australia, we have the GDPR but better

Cause it's actually modern 😂

[cedar wedge]

yea i ts up to date

its

[lone thistle]

Summit like that yeah 😄 like idk if I said the boiling temp of water is 100c

that isn't under copyright

[last harbor]

If I remember correctly, I had some issues with my python back in the day

[cursive bobcat]

bro is running python 2

[last harbor]

I just can’t remember wat I did to fix it

[lone thistle]

but if I had some blog about it all then it is

[knotty valve]

Yeah so distributor/presenter protection

[sand trench]

but copyright law needs updating in shadows eyes

[cedar wedge]

ahhh

[knotty valve]

God laws are stupid

[lone thistle]

Huge fan of GDPR 😄

Australia been having a lot of wins recently 😄

[knotty valve]

Who wrote them

[sand trench]

considering patents only last 20 years no matter what but copyright lasts your lifetime +70 years is crazy

[cedar wedge]

shoo iono

[last harbor]

R u sure that the script is meant to run on python3?

[knotty valve]

This reminded me of the Nintendo shenanigans

[cedar wedge]

yea thats what it says in th instructions

[cursive bobcat]

and is it defo a .py file?

[clever heron]

which room are u guys talking about

[upper knoll]

yer i was wondering if thats room discussion

[sand trench]

well patenting game mechanics also feels blegh but yeah nintendo are in the right to create said patents
though it gets dubious when they patent something first after other game creators have made something that infringes on said patent

[lone thistle]

I had to study GDPR too much

it's so great but also like....so nonspecific also. But hey, welcome to legislation hey -- that's what courts are for

[last harbor]

@cedar wedge ?

[sand trench]

shadow reads privacy policies a decent bit of the time

[last harbor]

None. He’s talking about smth on his end I think

[knotty valve]

Court is just a debate on if your interpretation of the law is right or not

[clever heron]

aaah ok🤖

[cedar wedge]

yea i saved it as script.py

[lone thistle]

..............yup 😅 or more rather if one persons interpretation is better than the others

[cursive bobcat]

send code

[lone thistle]

but i could go on for hours about that

[upper knoll]

^^

very much the same

[knotty valve]

Laws are great until they're not

[upper knoll]

jabba going to put eyes on u for that one xd

[cedar wedge]

python3 script.py mail.txt

[knotty valve]

Look, pretty sure I've admitted to being arrested before

I think he's already watching me 😂

[upper knoll]

u silly bean

[knotty valve]

Cybercrime is bad™

[last harbor]

Try running the command

Sudo apt update

[knotty valve]

Don't do the bad

[shut hawk]

my man is a legislation guru

[lone thistle]

nah

just too bored sometimes

LOL

[knotty valve]

Lmfaoo

[upper knoll]

ask him about war

[lone thistle]

no

[upper knoll]

he will chat your ear off on that topic

xd

[knotty valve]

Tbf that's how I learnt about criminology

[last harbor]

Rn a “professional phisher” is in my DMs💀🙏

[lone thistle]

I mean....did I or did I not get the whole India / Pakistan conflict bang on the nail? 😄

[upper knoll]

you so did

[lone thistle]

but no war talks

[knotty valve]

Is he gonn heck ur IP adres

[cedar wedge]

damn this trash

[lone thistle]

I gotta be professional here

[upper knoll]

true true

[lone thistle]

[last harbor]

Nah. He’s just showing me how he phishes people💀

[knotty valve]

Horrible OPSEC

[lone thistle]

😄 I saw your modules/topics you provided. I'm somewhat convinced in alternate world I done criminology

[knotty valve]

Can we get him banned twice?

[last harbor]

He’s already banned

Yk who
It is?

[knotty valve]

That's why I said twice

[lone thistle]

Sounds really cool - did you get to pick? Quite a wide range of topics, Ashlynn

[last harbor]

This human

[last harbor]

Yup

[knotty valve]

For uni? We can yeah, psych and biosciences were electives I chose on-top of my bachelor's of cybersec

[sand trench]

finding local lawyers or judges to follow and watch on youtube for info about how laws are interpeted and rights is hard

[knotty valve]

In third year I'm taking neurology and pharmaceutical sciences

[lone thistle]

that's awesome

[sand trench]

so many american/usa based ones that have no impact on how swedish systems work

[knotty valve]

Second year is more psych and biosciences 😅

[lone thistle]

That's probably the only complaint I have about Uni here, it's very much one-track

[knotty valve]

I was originally planning to go into counter-terror but have since opted to drop into tattoo artistry after uni 😂

[lone thistle]

which I mean, great in some ways, but y'know 😄

[lone thistle]

honestly fair enough!

[knotty valve]

My career path has been insane so far lmao

[last harbor]

@cedar wedge did it work?

[cursive bobcat]

bro brute forced himself

[last harbor]

We ain’t sure. And it’s fun in my opinion

[sand trench]

for now shadow is professionally mentally ill

[last harbor]

For beginners

[knotty valve]

I started off as a naval comms engineer, then I went to psychiatric nursing, then I went to an NDA, now to security engineering 😅

[cedar wedge]

nah still the same result

[last harbor]

Why shadow hunter?

[cedar wedge]

beginning of the script raceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 159, in _new_conn
conn = connection.create_connection(
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/util/connection.py", line 61, in create_connection
for res in socket.getaddrinfo(host, port, family, socket.SOCK_STREAM):
File "/usr/lib/python3.8/socket.py", line 918, in getaddrinfo
for res in _socket.getaddrinfo(host, port, family, type, proto, flags):
socket.gaierror: [Errno -2] Name or service not known

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 666, in urlopen
httplib_response = self._make_request(
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 388, in _make_request

[sand trench]

one day though shadow wanna be a soc analyst

[last harbor]

Can u dm me wat u see?

[lone thistle]

Funny how it all works out. I'd be full time in medical if it wasn't for cyber, and probably will end up eventually. But that's the great thing about cyber, idc what anyone really says, in the current year, cyber is so approachable from whatever field/background

[last harbor]

Idk
If u can send scripts here

[sand trench]

well chemical and neuron connections being weird in shadows brain

[cursive bobcat]

i think you need packages bud

[last harbor]

Ooof. @knotty valve nurse, help her

[cedar wedge]

oops

[cedar wedge]

wym by that

[last harbor]

Ngl but I didn’t try read it cause I can’t read scripts in discord text

[cursive bobcat]

for python you need to install libraries such as numpy etc

[knotty valve]

It really is! I unfortunately had to step back from medical cause of my mental health 😭
Honestly really loved working with the patients we had come in and my team was amazing, but doctors unanimously agreed I needed to step back

[knotty valve]

That's neurologist stuff

[last harbor]

Thought u had info in that too

[cursive bobcat]

and maybe some more advanced ones for your script

[knotty valve]

I don't touch neurological conditions even with a ten foot barge pole

[knotty valve]

I didn't study neurology LOL

Or well

[last harbor]

Wat is that script doing? Brute force?

[knotty valve]

I did but basic level stuff

[last harbor]

Oh

[lone thistle]

Yeah totally, especially in those fields. MH ain't no joke at all regularly, but especially in those sectors. Good on you I say

[knotty valve]

I was very unhappy about it for the first few months

[lone thistle]

but that's it innit, in 2025 cyber and related is so much more accessible. If there were the resources there are now in 2014/15 then whoooooooof

[knotty valve]

But yeah, now it's not that big of deal, it's just one of those things that happen

[lone thistle]

Yeah totally

[cursive bobcat]

glad you are coping

[sand trench]

shadow took psychology 1 on gymnasium level in sweden

[knotty valve]

Imagine lmao so many big name malware's and cyberattacks wouldn't have hit so hard

[sand trench]

failed the last assignment so got an F but eh

[last harbor]

Is shadow Swedish?

[sand trench]

learnt enough

[lone thistle]

One of the things my mum says, as much I don't like to admit how right she was when I was younger, she always says
"things happen for a reason". Makes a lotta sense in the bigger picture of things 😄

As much as I hate admitting how right she is as an adult

[sand trench]

yes... took you long enough to realise

[last harbor]

Indeed.

[cursive bobcat]

do you like meatballs

[last harbor]

Barely anyone here knows where I’m from

[cursive bobcat]

i know

[sand trench]

yes but prefer potato pancakes and thick bacon

[knotty valve]

Oh yeah my parents said that a lot too, I still struggle a lot with coping at the start cause of everything wired wrong in my brain
But they're 100% right 🤣

[last harbor]

Yh I think u do

[knotty valve]

It's a whole other matter of being able to actually step back and see it though

[last harbor]

Tell on dms

@cursive bobcat

[cursive bobcat]

kk

[lone thistle]

1000% 😄

[knotty valve]

This is what therapy is for! /hj

That's actually one of the things I wish we had more assets in and knowledge as well

[upper knoll]

here is your reminder to drink water chat

i just realised i have none so im off water hunting

[knotty valve]

Cause psychotherapy works really well for the most part, but we don't have the necessary amount of knowledge on how people behave and why to make it actually effective for everyone
And there's never enough actually well trained psychologists and psychiatrists that so many people get abandoned by the system

It's kinda sad tbh

[lone thistle]

yup, very quickly just become another case/number in the system, especially when everyone and their circumstances are individual right

Bob is diff from Alice, John is different from Emma, etc

[knotty valve]

Yeah

And even if Bob and Alice both have, let's say, schizophrenia then there's different variations of that condition and they'll still experience symptoms very differently

[sand trench]

and shadow is a mess of tons of mixed problems that all need untangling and fixing

but shadow is bad at communicating that they need more support to unravel

[knotty valve]

Same shadow, same

Shadow are you my clone 😂

[cursive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/ori-gif-9960264302835426560

[last harbor]

If shadow wanna vent, shadow can dm me anytime

[lone thistle]

I have some MH nursing training later in the year which I think'll be interesting - definitely nowhere near the levels of anything like a psychiatrist, more just a CPD thing. IDK, hopefully it just gives a bit more exposure and communication skills innit

[knotty valve]

Wanna went

[lone thistle]

with you on that. Complex shii and I never want it to make it someone elses problem innit. And then, it's always "yeah i'm okay"

LOL

[last harbor]

Typo mb

Bruh

This autocorrect needs to die

[cursive bobcat]

wanna whenna what

[last harbor]

?

[cursive bobcat]

lmao

[knotty valve]

It won't be full on "here's the DSM and ICD, study it" but it will give you a very good and broad idea on a lot of conditions (or the most common ones) and how to treat, adapt, and work with the patients as well as giving you the means to be able to identify when something is or has been a trigger for whatever symptom or conditions

[knotty valve]

I do the exact same tbh

It's hard facing yourself in that manner tbh

[lone thistle]

yeah for sure! That's what i'm looking forward to. I work in first responder / first on scene stuff, so never really get to know the intricacies etc, but if it helps build an "approach" or recognising things for a certain pathway of care i'm all for it

[knotty valve]

Like you could be in the safest place in the world, with someone you absolutely trust, but inside your head will be infinitely more dangerous than anything else

[lone thistle]

'eh, I could probably chew your ear off about it all and related but 😄

But yes, more skills is always a good thing

esp. in a medical capacity

physical wounds are easy to cover etcetc

[knotty valve]

I still feel sorry for first responders, I did a bit of ED/ER before psychiatric and even just seeing the aftermath of just the person in a severe car crash is horrific enough

I'd hate to actually see it on the scene

[upper knoll]

i did 7 years of youth group with fire fighters they always had stories for us about RTC's

[rapid merlin]

Anyone know how to hack google drive accounts

[knotty valve]

No

[crystal mauve]

No

[lone thistle]

Yeah, I've worked first on scene and pre-hospital (A&E which is a bit of a weird classification here depending on where you are...cause PT is at hospital...but first on scene caries quickly into hospital care...again a weird kinda "fluid" definition)

Lucky to say i've not dealt with anything too....extreme, probably a bit too above PG to get into specifics for here but deglovving/major trauma & two cardiac arrests

Not really something i'm tryna keep a tally off though, granted, not a scooby how professionals deal with type stuff day in day out. I work a small amount part time and it's more than enough for me

[crystal mauve]

Id like to carry narcan around, but what if they aren’t ODing n they are just drunk n sleepy

[sand trench]

welp shadow is spent...time to go meep moop to beep boops for sleepy sloopy sleep soop

[upper knoll]

sleep well shadow

[lone thistle]

GN shadow!

[crystal mauve]

Nite nite

[last harbor]

It’s unethical so no

[rapid merlin]

😦

[last harbor]

Good poem

[upper knoll]

remember the /report exists as we arent suppose to interact with rule breakers

[last harbor]

Oh tyy for reminding

[boreal scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1367516217727778846/P9jKKtFwii3v.gif

[upper knoll]

Matt!

[knotty valve]

First time I've seen degloving i straight up puked, it's definitely not something you expect

Cardiac arrests happen to be the most mellow thing, with all respects to other issues that could go wrong 😅

The most lax I've seen thankfully was someone come in for an assumed cardiac arrest and just happen to be having a severe panic attack, the worst definitely can't say here cause of age things

[lone thistle]

So here's kinda the magic thing about Naloxne, it won't really do any harm (pls do not take medical advice over the internet. I'm not practicing/risking my registration here online loool). There's a lot more indicators to OD than drunk/sleepy etc so

[knotty valve]

Already reported the message

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/duald-dual-d-duald-phone-dual-d-phone-dual-d-tech-support-gif-16859364027475135337

[upper knoll]

Yer sometimes just remind people to use it if I think it’s applicable

[knotty valve]

This^^

For more info:
https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/naloxone/

Neither Ben nor myself want to lose registrations 😅

[lone thistle]

If you end up carrying and administering naloxone please phone your emergency sevices

I wont make a clinical judgement on whetehr or not it needs to be administered online 😅

[knotty valve]

All your overdose symptoms and medical regulations, I'd recommend searching Google with websites that are .gov specifically so you don't get misinformation from people who misinterpreted the drug foundations

[knotty valve]

Ideally you should be doing this before administration

[lone thistle]

plenty of clinical practices for your region open on the internet

[lone thistle]

yes yes, I meant more as in "tell them you've administered it" but 100%

[knotty valve]

Especially if it's an intravenous naloxone cause you can cause my harm if you don't know what you're doing

Nasal spray is deadass straightforward tho

[lone thistle]

yes

dont carry intravenous if someone was to

nasal

[knotty valve]

But yeah 100% on the call the Emergency Services

[knotty valve]

I do 😅

[lone thistle]

well

I trust your registration 😄

[knotty valve]

I also have training

So yeah LOL

[lone thistle]

yup lol

[knotty valve]

Never pill, never needle, always spray

[lone thistle]

it's still a new thing here for anything outside of paramedic crews

it's slowly trickling down the system

[knotty valve]

Pills only work if the patient is still conscious and has ingested within 30 minutes, but even then use spray!!!

Yeah normally OD stuff is typically handled by medical professionals

Or just anything life threatening

[lone thistle]

bioavailability

OoA because we need more acronyms

[knotty valve]

Though, I do encourage people to get the training done if you live in an area that has a high overdose rate

[lone thistle]

BLS is something anyone ever should learn in my books. you never know. first on scene makes all the difference

[knotty valve]

That's still my biggest problem rn, is telling the difference between IT acronyms and medical acronyms

[lone thistle]

might not be an expert etc

but

intervention 👍

[lone thistle]

LOL YUP

[knotty valve]

At least SSRI is pretty unique to medical

Thankfully

MAO tho

Still does my head in MAOs are pronounced mayo

And not M-A-O

[lone thistle]

ahahha yup

em-a-oh

[knotty valve]

Em-aye-oh

[wet palm]

Please who has taken SAL1 heree

[mortal ether]

Looks like DALL-E finally spit out an image as well. At least that one comes close to the actual THM logo

If this ends up in the THM merch shop, i will settle for a 1337% profit share

[knotty valve]

Whoops

[cursive bobcat]

ill take 1

[lone thistle]

30% of me is like "I wanna practice medicine more" the other 70% of me is like "bruv you know what it's like. Small here and there is plenty enough"

Maybe one day

[last harbor]

No

[last harbor]

Ur pfp looks cool

[lone thistle]

that's arguably my "passion" but I definitely don't think I have the resiliance for it day to day

[wet palm]

Thank you so much, yours does not seem bad eitherrrr

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @last harbor (current: #304 - 24)

[knotty valve]

Yeah medical as a full-time is very full on

[last harbor]

Np and tyyy

[wet palm]

you play CTFs

[knotty valve]

One thing I can say is, I don't miss the 32 hour shifts

[last harbor]

Not rlly. But I did make a team tday

[knotty valve]

Nice

[wet palm]

mind if i joineddd

[lone thistle]

Yeah I can imagine. Got a snapshot of it for a year during the whole covid stuff, had my fill. I mean i'm never a "pay means everything person" but .... oooof. Sucks here.

Suppose that's why so many HCPs are moving to aus from here 😅

[knotty valve]

Pay here is very uuhhhh yes

[lone thistle]

can't say I particularly blame them

[knotty valve]

Medicare rebates suck absolute ass

[lone thistle]

😅 gotta be much better than it is here

[knotty valve]

So the only way you can actually make money is by going private

[last harbor]

Ofc u can

[lone thistle]

Jr docs having to work for free for a year and then something like 28k after they graduate

[knotty valve]

Jesus

Yeah no that's worse than here 😭

Grads will do an internship, paid or unpaid clinic/hospital depending but after that it's usually minimal 50-60k depending on clinic/hospital

[lone thistle]

reg nurses are something like 28k - 35k IIRC. 35K here really doesn't get you much at all these days

[knotty valve]

I did my nursing internship directly with a hospital so mine thankfully paid me 😅

[knotty valve]

35K was my minimum during the internship

[lone thistle]

😄 fair play

[knotty valve]

I can see why everyone is moving here now lmao

[half badge]

PicoCTF is fun!

[knotty valve]

That's horrible pay grades

[lone thistle]

yeah it's remarkably sad

and they wonder why they can't keep anyone

[cursive bobcat]

and when you finally get to £50k they tax you 40% lol

[lone thistle]

Band 5 (basically lowest - i.e. ECA etc) is 28k for paramedic crews

[knotty valve]

Oh god

[lone thistle]

Trainee paramedic salary - £24,907 to £31,365 (band 5)

Newly qualified paramedic salary - £31,365 to £38,890 (band 6) PARAMEDIC

Team leaders or senior paramedics who have undertaken extensive skills training in critical care - £38,890 to £45,753 (band 7)

Consultant paramedic salary - £45,753 to £75,914 (band 8)

[knotty valve]

I knew parameds got underpaid but didn't know by that much