general

[jolly aspen]

i could give 20 hours of fries related content if you're keen

[stoic quarry]

Time to record CTF podcasts with ASMR keyboard typing

[grizzled wing]

like the sage smudge ceremonies?

[karmic hemlock]

I gotta cut back on the sodium my friend, 20 hours of fries may stop my heart

[grizzled wing]

for real i would love that

[rapid merlin]

Oh yeah white sage

I used to have that a lot

[stoic quarry]

Might make that today if I get the chance

Would be kinda funny

[karmic hemlock]

Baked potato content though? 👀

[jolly aspen]

🥔

[grizzled wing]

white sage, i just know sage as that, sage

[rapid merlin]

It’s nice

[grizzled wing]

step 1, get your potato IP
step 2 add potato to /kitchen/plate

[jolly aspen]

sage prejudice going down in the chat

[rapid merlin]

The first time I lit some white sage my mum was coughing

Be gone demon

[karmic hemlock]

o7 everyone, I'll see yall back where it's warm and sunny instead of this winter hellscape

[rapid merlin]

😆

[stoic quarry]

Cya in 6 months I guess

[jolly aspen]

dont forget potato port number

[rapid merlin]

Ergh why’s it so late already

[grizzled wing]

yes! because curly fries are at port 7899

[grizzled wing]

because you live in the future

[stoic quarry]

Yueh

[grizzled wing]

R0n1n , we need to make a fries CTF

🌞

[jolly aspen]

need to make a potato utility

[stoic quarry]

PotatOS

[grizzled wing]

haha

i purchased a new 🪥

[stoic quarry]

Nice

[jolly aspen]

the trick to having a clean toothbrush is to never use it

[grizzled wing]

🤢

guess you kiss lots of people

[jolly aspen]

only once

[stoic quarry]

Omg who was it 🫢

[jolly aspen]

yo mama

[grizzled wing]

classy comment 🤵‍♂️

[rapid merlin]

just clean it in bleach

[knotty pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[jolly aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/volleyball-yuki-ishikawa-yuji-nishida-fake-set-spike-gif-7865172428480755586

[grizzled wing]

vollyball !

[jolly aspen]

changing my name to BR0n1n

[grizzled wing]

please dont

[eternal timber]

Just put the fries in the bag

[grizzled wing]

are you armed?

[jolly aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-penguin-stick-em-up-gun-gif-15832936

[grizzled wing]

🍟 in 🛍️

[jolly aspen]

this is why h4xors use linux

[eternal timber]

Armed with knowledge

[grizzled wing]

📚 on robbery

[eternal timber]

Perhaps

[sand trench]

inventing new nordic countries????

[wooden totem]

Yayy 4 whole hours of sleep and I can't fall back

[sand trench]

also @boreal scarab

if people specify the color to this level of detail it is better then the american way

[wooden totem]

I think I found a bug, I don't vibe with this

[rapid merlin]

Trueee

[sand trench]

you are living on borrowed energy but fair

[wooden totem]

Imma need to borrow a large amount

[sand trench]

no you do not want that

that is how you get hallucinations and delusions

[wooden totem]

Imma need to borrow a standard amount over a large period

[stoic quarry]

Yeah not recommended

[mellow gull]

I arrive at home

[full jungle]

When's the next competition? 😀

[stoic quarry]

Cool

[grizzled wing]

can i get a horoscope ? haha

[grizzled wing]

mv gaww ~

[rapid merlin]

Uh sure one sec, just one for you

[grizzled wing]

in 35 minutes || not really sure ||

[mellow gull]

In 35 seconds

[grizzled wing]

i have coded a terminal horoscope program for fun

[blazing granite]

you just missed it 😉 😛

[mellow gull]

Guess that means I lost

[grizzled wing]

i won 🎉

🏅

[mellow gull]

[grizzled wing]

zonfetti

[eternal timber]

A bug or a bug

[grizzled wing]

why z confetti? because its on the z-axis

[opaque flax]

so what is the benefit of teams in THM?

[rapid merlin]

I can’t send you it till you accept fr

[mellow gull]

Solidarity

[eternal timber]

Friends

[opaque flax]

hopefully they flesh the feature out

[crude stump]

What’s a horoscope

[blazing granite]

it wasn't a but, it was a feature 😉 😂

[wooden totem]

Not a living creature kind

[grizzled wing]

a generic message that is supposedly based on the alignment of stars and planets

[eternal timber]

Me when the code I turned in malfunctions

[crude stump]

Sir William

[crude stump]

Oh

[grizzled wing]

"saturn is in retrograde"

[blazing granite]

you mean everybody 😂

[blazing granite]

the other one is it worked in my computer 😂

[mellow gull]

Me when I - me when, me when you, when, when your stars, me when I you, when mercury

[wooden totem]

Let me get back to you in few businesses minutes

[grizzled wing]

poetry

[strong sentinel]

whats the best vpn u guys recommend for kali linux?

[crude stump]

How much de deedicated wam for da server

[mellow gull]

vpn? Just set up your own?

https://tenor.com/view/kyo-kaneko-kyo-kaneko-hanya-kyo-kaneko-cute-kyo-kaneko-tilt-head-kyo-tilt-head-gif-13560185064659011828

[crude stump]

VPN for what

[grizzled wing]

man vpn if it were so simple

[blazing granite]

vpn for kali???

[grizzled wing]

Kali is a VPN, she destroys all packets you do not want, she destroys all malware instantly

[crude stump]

Unless it breaks free weeee

[mellow gull]

Kali has evaded the sandbox, I repeat, Kali has escaped containment

[strong sentinel]

i just realised that 😂

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kali-maa-smile-gif-12235221

[strong sentinel]

forgive my naivety

[mellow gull]

Anyways

Serious answer

If you're using Kali through a VM that uses your native internet, then just use any well remarked VPN through your host machine

[loud galleon]

hi /verify

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Jan 8, 2025, 11:35 PM

[blazing granite]

@loud galleon read the link above

[mellow gull]

Although I am obligated to mention that you shouldn't be using any of Kali's tools on websites that are accessible through the open internet without express permission, VPN or no VPN.

[strong sentinel]

i am trying to do investigation on some facebook scammer, so i not willing to expose my public ip while doing so

[grizzled wing]

Kali is torching everything

[mellow gull]

Uh huh?..

[strong sentinel]

they scam people to download some trojan apk which hijack android phone provide remote control functionality like msfvenom's meterpreter payloads

[grizzled wing]

i dont know, just roleplaying

[strong sentinel]

i am trying to install the apk in sandbox environment and see which ip and port they outbound to

[rapid merlin]

vpn companies have been getting a lot of hate lately. I've used airvpn for over 4yrs and found them great, suppose you just have to do your research

[mellow gull]

Playing a dangerous game there...

You do know a vpn won't obscure your IP once the program is on your device, right?

[rapid merlin]

ISPs are getting better at deep packet inspection

[stoic quarry]

What are you doing by hiding your IP too?

[mellow gull]

Like, sure, I guess it'll occlude if they're tracking IPs that download the initial file

[polar shale]

First hop basically lol atleast from the router

[strong sentinel]

even in a sandbox environment? 😬

[mellow gull]

But everything after that you're not getting any help.

[solemn parcel]

Hello
I'm from Europe and I was thinking of going through a Russian proxy or vpn to hide from the laws in Europe is that a good idea?

[half girder]

with the current political situation with russia, id avoid them

[rapid merlin]

we run checks of random traffic, if things look suspect, but if it's not our customer we tend not to care, as long as it's not effecting us

[half girder]

no empiric reason for, just a feeling its a stupid idea atm ^^

[solemn parcel]

Really?

[mellow gull]

Depends on how the apk is configured. In either case you need to make absolutely certain your sandbox has no access to the internet natively or through host before you do anything with malicious files.

[half girder]

i should have taken vpn / proxy for the bingo chart -.-

[mellow gull]

Also entering the territory of stuff we can't talk about.

[solemn parcel]

Specifically me. I go to the site and use the discounts to get a new customer and I'm afraid they'll find me and track me down one day. I just can't find any proxy or vpn that would offer the other side of Slovakia. Because they will find it strange that I am connecting from Russia.

[mellow gull]

Don't recommend it, everyone here will tell you to just report the scammer

[mellow gull]

Hello, we cannot advise or assist you with bypassing the laws in your local country. This is not that kind of discord.

[rapid merlin]

did you finish it already?

[mellow gull]

Also yeah gimme the chart if it's done

[half girder]

sent it to @mossy river for approval, nothing heard yet

[rapid merlin]

getting offensive without the green light from the platform is a bit iffy and I'd personally stay away, as @mellow gull says just report it

[solemn parcel]

I don't even know if it's illegal I just found their mistake which they are stupid to fix.

[strong sentinel]

i see, not worth to play mental games with the black hat

[clear jackal]

Hate to break it to you, but that's not how the law works

[mossy river]

No, this would be illegal

[rapid merlin]

oo, i bet it's good

[mossy river]

I'm unwell at the moment so I will get back to you when I'm back 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Your profile pic Lloyds bank

[half girder]

no worries, all good 🙂 get well

[crude stump]

Who’s that

[crude stump]

Yoooo

[mellow gull]

Yes. Doing illegal things just because the person you're doing it to is also doing illegal things doesn't make it not illegal. Always be mindful.

[strong sentinel]

i am like wanna start a blue vs red situation with the black hat 🤣

[crude stump]

Best to not waste your time on scum

[rapid merlin]

play king of the hill

[rapid merlin]

A bank in England

[crude stump]

Oh really? I had no idea

[crude stump]

Ah but the difference is mine is a water horse

[drifting stirrup]

On network fundamentals unit the intro to LAN course is required premium. is that room super duper important

[stoic quarry]

Water Lloyd's

[rapid merlin]

One of their adverts was horses running through water

😆

[crude stump]

Smh

[blazing granite]

jesus horse

[crude stump]

Did it have an ace of spades ironed into its side too???

[rapid merlin]

the course material is a must, but you can learn it else where. A big part is learning the OSI model and how it helps with TS, also discusses ARP and DHCP

[boreal scarab]

Absolutely!

[boreal scarab]

👀

[sand trench]

okay come up with a nordic sounding country name

[rapid merlin]

No, I don’t think so

[rapid merlin]

American Greenland

[boreal scarab]

Nordic sounding country name....

hmm

[sand trench]

greenland is not a country technically... it is a danish colony

[crude stump]

It’s honestly stupid how it’s premium

[rapid merlin]

I'm just teasing, silly comments from Trump

[crude stump]

Networking is like the key

[boreal scarab]

Valkårland

[blazing granite]

and not much green either 😂

[drifting stirrup]

i found that there is a free learning path. will following that teach me basic cybersecurity to or is premium needed?

[sand trench]

neither is iceland icy

[rapid merlin]

I recommend premium if you can afford it, it's worth the price

[crude stump]

What’s the learning path. Also “basic cybersecurity” is broad. Cybersecurity in itself is very broad

[drifting stirrup]

yeh, i plan on getting premium later anyways but im just getting a look into cybersecurity rn i dont even know if im super interested

[blazing granite]

there is more green in iceland than in greenland 😂

[drifting stirrup]

sorry its a roadmap actually called "free roadmap"

[crude stump]

I say dable in each. The cybersecurity 101 path is super good to help you choose which path you like

@mossy river yooo when was the soc simulator released? I had no idea

[rapid merlin]

looks kewl doesn't it, can't wait to put some time aside to play with it

[oak river]

So if Discord has a blank screen

Just delete cache

Was wondering how to fix this problem

[rapid merlin]

Are there any good courses on reverse engineering ?

[boreal scarab]

@sick lance RE question. Do you know of any RE rooms?

[rapid merlin]

I don’t think there’s many on thm that’s why I’m looking for a course or a good book

[boreal scarab]

Well, Scrubz is the resident RE person here

[blazing granite]

who is probably sleeping is 12:30pm in UK 😂

[opaque flax]

resident resident evil?

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-draw-resident-evil-come-at-me-bro-milla-jovovich-gif-11658262

[boreal scarab]

WELL.... @rapid merlin is awake... and she's UK

IDFK what time it is across the damn pond

[blazing granite]

not really the same thing she never sleeps 😂

[rapid merlin]

Yeah but Scrubs has college tomorrow

Or uni or whatever

[finite basalt]

I just got my BTRFS drive to appear in my windows server vm yippee!

[rapid merlin]

I don’t know what I’m looking at soz

👁️👄👁️

[blazing granite]

I didn't know that win could read BTRFS

[finite basalt]

The BTRFS file system in use on a drive and loaded successfully within windows which doesn't natively support it

[opaque flax]

just a casual amount of data

[finite basalt]

it can't but https://github.com/maharmstone/btrfs this project allows you to install drivers which let it

Only catch is that they don't appear valid within disk management but I don't need that functionality

[finite basalt]

in the much, not recommended btrfs raid 5 haha

That's what's available while in said raid 5

[opaque flax]

im gonna reccomend it to my next client

[finite basalt]

😭

it can be unstable so I did it the best way I could based on the advice out there

RAID 5 the contents, RAID 1 the metadata

9tb total storage 6.7tb usable roughly

[karmic hemlock]

Can't sleep

[rapid merlin]

feel you mate, I'm the same. I'm tired but can't get off

I’m tired af actually gn

gn @rapid merlin

Cyas tomorrow

[eternal timber]

That’s crazy

[eternal timber]

Gn unc

[keen light]

brtfs snapshots for the win

btrfs

gotta use BTRFS + LUKS + TPM2.0 for optimal laptop

[blazing granite]

for not entirely in win 😂 😛

[rapid merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SpX8bVEmJo

[stoic quarry]

Space

Big fan of that thing

[grizzled wing]

Astronauts hangout at the [ Spacebar ]

[stoic quarry]

Damn

Nice

Is THM chugging or is my laptop just slow

[keen light]

computers eat [Micro] chips

[blazing granite]

good food, no atmosphere 😉

[blazing granite]

probably your laptop 😂

[sand trench]

welp timey whimey bleepo bloope sleep sloop to meep moop time

[stoic quarry]

Think so

Oh no!

[jolly aspen]

laaaaaaaaaag

[stoic quarry]

Painful stuff

I guess I won't be doing rooms today 😅

[crystal mauve]

does the vm have caido?

[crude stump]

Honestly when I reverse engineer malware with ghidra. It’s more of getting use to reading decompiled code

[tame bane]

pop push!

(i can hardly understand registers)

[muted rock]

hi

[rapid merlin]

had a buffer overflow in my ecpptv2 last month, that had me scratching my head

haven't touched assembly or C for a long time. Day to day it's just python, I have a few tcl scripts and bash

[crude stump]

Facts. It’s definitely hard tho. Especially creating names for functions etc, so if actually makes sense

[stoic quarry]

I'm sticking to Python and bash until I need to relearn C

Actually I need to relearn Java soon

[rapid merlin]

don't envy you with that

[fervent cove]

yo why do some labs say 'x days of access left'

are they removing those labs or does that just have to do with my subscription

[narrow heart]

As long as it's not Java Beans...

[stoic quarry]

Might be to do with your subscription, does it coincide with when your subscription expires?

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/patriotic-front-lungu-edgar-lungu-beans-ballywillfixit-gif-18320698

[fervent cove]

my sub says renewing on jan 30th, no idea

guess ill just sit down and focus on getting em done o7

[rapid merlin]

throw the link to one of the labs please

[fervent cove]

https://tryhackme.com/r/room/persistingad

[stoic quarry]

Yeah I think it's you subscription

[fervent cove]

ah word, interesting

cheers mate

[stoic quarry]

[rapid merlin]

I've completed this, and it's not showing anything about it being removed

[rapid merlin]

bit early for breakfast

[polar shale]

Y no vm?

[ionic wolf]

Pwn.college is great for this, saying that yet to do reverse engineering stuff on try hack me ye.

[knotty pendant]

Do i need this long piece in pc

[lone hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/independence-day-hello-boys-im-back-suicide-sacrifice-gif-7367746

https://tenor.com/view/dharma-dharma-server-dharma-server-users-dharma-server-users-when-tanks-gif-20773693

@boreal scarab

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/d-point-war-war-thunder-thunder-gif-11065825568954185146

[lone hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/sukhoi-plane-cobra-maneuver-su27-sukhoi-su27-gif-20743994

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tank-gif-25914406

[crude stump]

Ask in #cyber-and-careers it wont get lost in there

[lone hornet]

how u doin myy man

[blazing granite]

google it, with don't help with homework, work stuff, etc

[plain carbon]

Okay, thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @crude stump (current: #64 - 132)

[lone hornet]

yo @crude stump how u doin

[crude stump]

What’s up. Doing great

Wby

[lone hornet]

pretty good myself changed jobs gotta raise lifes good

[lone hornet]

fr we do

[crude stump]

Oh nice

That’s great

[lone hornet]

bruh have been off thm for almost a year now

[boreal scarab]

A10, M1A1, C10

T-80 UD

[grizzled wing]

omg hello

[lone hornet]

coool

[boreal scarab]

yaaaaaaaaaah War Thunder wooh!

[grizzled wing]

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-retro-hasbro-90s-gif-18090475

[lone hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-gi-joe-a-real-american-hero-duel-in-the-devils-cauldron-the-mass-device-attack-gif-17282356

[knotty pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/669930682696466446.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=LickL

[lone hornet]

fr tho have been playing more of elden ring dlc nowadays but still war thunder is goated

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-joe-flint-gi-joe-a-real-american-hero-amusement-park-of-terror-the-revenge-of-cobra-gif-17284121

[grizzled wing]

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-cobra-commander-oh-is-that-so-is-that-so-oh-really-gif-22002786

[lone hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-cobra-commander-flying-rocket-gif-17718356

[grizzled wing]

loving all of the GI Joe gifs

how are your special ops?

[lone hornet]

yah fr its awesome

[lone hornet]

discreet with a 0 fail mission to uphold

[grizzled wing]

so like Stuxnet ops

[lone hornet]

we are even more discreet

[grizzled wing]

airgrapped grapes

[lone hornet]

yes but even more than that

[grizzled wing]

super duper classified 1337 level

[lone hornet]

yes

we work in the night to save the dawn

[grizzled wing]

🌶️

[narrow heart]

Tf did i miss yo what is this 5 minute scrollback

[grizzled wing]

Wing Commander and I have a history regarding GI Joe ops

[knotty pendant]

blud got caught

[narrow heart]

That feels more like documenting the what than the why

[grizzled wing]

the why, because it is fun

[narrow heart]

No.

[grizzled wing]

WALL OF TEXT much?

[narrow heart]

Wow he joined in November just to spam that now?

[grizzled wing]

reported

[lone hornet]

i think #jobs-board will be better suited

[lone hornet]

dont he might be genuine

[grizzled wing]

wrong way to go about it

[lone hornet]

how about #intros

[narrow heart]

"Milan Jovanovik" is the only matching account for QiangWang's Skype ID in their profile, so seems triply fake

[lone hornet]

u looked him up? good job am too lazy for that

[crude stump]

@mossy river

[grizzled wing]

wall of text that had no connection

[lone hornet]

well u were right

[grim sparrow]

Done!

[grizzled wing]

good work retsel

thanks Jabba

[lone hornet]

top notch sleuthing

ya thanks @mossy river

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mossy river (current: #6 - 1412)

[boreal scarab]

War thunder is goat

[lone hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-gif-25856412

frfr

[woeful cypress]

i'm green :o

[sullen remnant]

Fr tho

[grizzled wing]

hi Orion

congrats on being green 🎉

[woeful cypress]

bless, thanks!

[lone hornet]

lessgoo buddy

[grizzled wing]

0xLegends club

[woeful cypress]

woot woot

[grizzled wing]

[ 15% discount coupon applicable everywhere]

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-muppet-green-its-not-that-easy-gif-16886135

[fossil merlin]

Mad about Google slyly introducing predictive text.

You are a computer, I am a human, you are a lesser entity, I do not need to be told what I'm saying.

How dare you tell me what to say in my very own holy tongue.

[grizzled wing]

how dare it try to insert itself in your detective work

[weak nest]

hey so can anyone correct me if I'm wrong on this:
I heard replay attacks against cars don't work on modern cars because the car rf receiver and the car keys have some cryptographic algorithm that generates a new unlock signal every unlock/lock so that if it gets recorded it can't be used again,
is the way this hack (here https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3a1T8v5eFC0) works by jamming the signal so that the attacker's device gets the unlock signal and makes sure they keys don't send it to the car so it doesn't expire?

[chilly veldt]

I shouldn't be awake at these hours

[blazing granite]

so why are you? 😉 😂

[chilly veldt]

Cause work wants me to be in office at 7 am

[blazing granite]

shit

[lone hornet]

the bee movie got me again

every dammn time

[grizzled wing]

the seinfeld movie?

[lone hornet]

its an animated movie the worst one of all time

commonly used to troll

[boreal scarab]

@lone hornet I am bush. I am patted.

[grizzled wing]

yea, okay same movie i hav in mind

[lone hornet]

the best strat

[grizzled wing]

what if Bella drifts into work at 7am?

[coarse moth]

hi

sorry somebody knows what is the price of student plan

the mont

month*

[boreal scarab]

https://open.spotify.com/track/24Cwnor5iVkzlFQOQEajHR

[finite basalt]

here's a song for you https://open.spotify.com/track/61qXzQHMSwk3PStleYDJ2v?si=9f7e2465ec474a0b

goes hard

[coarse moth]

im listening the new bad bunny album

[lone hornet]

listen to sabaton my dude they 🔥 🪖

[boreal scarab]

I AM COW, HEAR ME MOO

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-cow-gif-24965573

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/moo-chicken-chicken-moo-gif-9107466186992598070

[polar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/मुर्ग़ी-गाय-नाच-गाना-मस्ती-gif-15025384

[lone hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/hashcow-hashcows-spacecow-cow-gif-25290875

[chilly veldt]

Gosh dammit, 7-eleven opens 1 minute after my train as driven off the station

[winged summit]

i'm back in the matrix

lol

[sinful moon]

Fixed another issue for the SO with our new Proxmox install. The “real hardware” disc drive access is just data and not raw drive access. So I was very happy to find this solution at the bottom of this post which worked perfectly:

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/how-to-do-a-scsi-passthrough.111505/

[winged summit]

nice! i can't wait to setup a proxmox server... once i get my first paycheck lol

gonna probably pickup an intel nuc

[sinful moon]

Can’t recommend it enough. I had a Proxmox… um laptop server before this, before we got some big iron with ESXi, but that fell through after VMUG Advantage changed their licensing terms. Back to Proxmox with no looking back

[winged summit]

nice

yeah. i just want something low power consumption, but lots of resources and portable. so i figured nuc

[finite basalt]

I just realised how late it is

🤦

[winged summit]

how late is it?

[finite basalt]

half four in the morning

[winged summit]

oof

[finite basalt]

A minor fuck up

[winged summit]

lmfao

[finite basalt]

I was jamming to S3RL and playing war thunder, may have lost track of time

[winged summit]

haha nice

i am currently exploring windows 11 because i just got an IT support / engineer role and need to brush up on windows since my daily driver is linux lol

in a VM right now

[finite basalt]

congratulations 😄

[winged summit]

thanks man

[finite basalt]

good luck too, enjoy

I'm currently looking at places for when I graduate

I've filled out one application so far because that application was the longest I've ever had 🤣
got to the end of it and literally said to my dad on the phone, "what the fuck was that"

[winged summit]

lol

[finite basalt]

Like you had to give all your qualifications one by one and state which organisation, which professional bodies they're members of etc.

even including when they were given that membership I believe, it was ridiculous

[winged summit]

damn dude, rip lol

[dusty drum]

How’s everyone doing?

[finite basalt]

but if I can get it, it'll be worth it

good thanks man, bout to head off shortly

just putting things away first

[winged summit]

yeah, doing good abraham, how are you?

[dusty drum]

I’m doing great. What do ya talk about on here?

[finite basalt]

bit of anything really, can be tech/non-tech related

just sort of wherever it goes unless there's a channel/thread for it in which case it goes in that channel normally

[sinful moon]

They’re great for home labs since when it comes time to cluster, you just get more of them lol

[winged summit]

ah, didn't consider that. thanks for the tip! 🙂

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sinful moon (current: #34 - 262)

[finite basalt]

I actually have been playing a little with proxmox today

[sinful moon]

vs my big iron server, not getting another of those, but nice to just still be able to cluster less powerful machines anyways

[finite basalt]

I've got it set up on my old desktop because it's still more than capable
I've got a vm with windows server 2022 and am trying to sort out btrfs compatibility on it so that I can have it as a proper active directory share, it's currently being a bit patchy though

[blazing granite]

proxmox looks better by the minute

[finite basalt]

I install the driver and it works, I reboot, it does not.
I uninstall the driver and reinstall, it works, repeat 🤣

[sinful moon]

yeah Proxmox is just lovely, no complaints

[finite basalt]

I love proxmox because of it's containers etc.

[sinful moon]

One sec speaking of that, I have a site you’ll enjoy

[finite basalt]

I hated it because I was familiar with docker but I do quite like it now

is it perchance the proxmox script site?

[sinful moon]

https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

yes lol

[finite basalt]

Yeah they're really handy

I really should've used it when setting up my mqtt server today

[sinful moon]

I do mostly prefer VMs vs the idea of LXC everything do to larger amount of sandboxing away from the core Linux server but I’ll have to think about it

[finite basalt]

I setup a container for it and forgot about the scripts

I mainly use it because it has the extra performance I want or is lightweight

[winged summit]

you guys hear of Ludus? https://ludus.cloud/

[finite basalt]

Like I'm running a minecraft server in an arch container and a discord bot in an alpine container

[winged summit]

i saw someone online use it to configure proxmox vms, like set them up

[sinful moon]

as some have said, it makes sense for base networking stuff such as DNS but nothing much larger

[finite basalt]

I've never heard of ludus before

[winged summit]

yeah, i'm not super familiar. like, i don't know who created it or the background, if trustworthy, etc. but it seems pretty powerful

[sinful moon]

But I saw they had a Unifi LXC on there, and if it can get my SO to stop complaining about his Unifi controller server I’ll be more than happy lol

[chilly veldt]

Eyyy Noir

[finite basalt]

I mean it runs a minecraft server very well, a very overspecced container haha

[chilly veldt]

Been a bit

[sinful moon]

Heya Bella

[winged summit]

my brain is struggling to remember what LXC == ?

[sinful moon]

I’ve been sick with covid

[winged summit]

oof

[sinful moon]

still am but slowly getting over it

[chilly veldt]

Oof, not good

[sinful moon]

yea it sucks

[chilly veldt]

Explains the not being awake when I'm awake

[sinful moon]

mhmm

[chilly veldt]

But now I wake up early today

[sinful moon]

or just silent and playing Steam Deck when you are awake lol

[chilly veldt]

That too

[sinful moon]

Did upgrade to a Steam Deck OLED so my LCD model could be passed down to my SO’s family member who has no PC while theyre all playing Minecraft Java lol

I was half thinking about upgrading for a while but that was a good enough reason

[idle ridge]

just got these 2

[chilly veldt]

Sweet

I am drawing a lot lately

[cloud quiver]

Congrats 🙂 , keep up the good work 😄

[sinful moon]

Linux container runtime or something, I don’t remember what it actually stands for lol. It’s not quite as sandboxed or well supported as Docker but it’s a decent option

[winged summit]

gotcha. thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sinful moon (current: #34 - 263)

[idle ridge]

thanks @cloud quiver

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #4 - 1913)

[winged summit]

man Elizabeth, i'm giving you mad credit today haha

[sinful moon]

lol I guess so, I’m suprised the timeout didn’t kick in

[winged summit]

well earned that is lol

thanks

LMFAO

@sinful moon thanks 🙂

[sinful moon]

But yeah Proxmox is real neat stuff

[winged summit]

oof, test failed lol

[sinful moon]

lol there you go

[winged summit]

for sure

[chilly veldt]

I have to draw flowers 😭

Gonna take such a long time

[finite basalt]

I removed my dhcp allocation by accident earlier, sorted it but they're the specs for the minecraft server container haha

for reference, it is a modded minecraft server not vanilla

[sinful moon]

I did straight up emulate my work servers with literally getting a PowerEdge and going going with ESXi, but Broadcomm made ESXi not an option for home users anymore either sadly

that does seem excessive RAM wise lol but lol, what do I know, Java is crazy

[finite basalt]

I've a poweredge downstairs actually but it's a bit loud, power hungry and not half as powerful as this machine

the modpack recommends at least 8gb minimum, 12gb recommended

[sinful moon]

That’s why I’m super happy with the tower, it’s designed to run very quiet for small/medium business deployments

[finite basalt]

Yeah, same here, I mean one of the fan bearings has gone slightly but it's still quiet

it's an nzxt hush case if you remember those

[sinful moon]

lol fair enough

[finite basalt]

with the sound dampening in the panels etc.

I actually swapped the machine into it because the case it was in was more for gaming so only fitted 2 drives and I wanted more

So now it's a sleeper-build server

[sinful moon]

lol wait you recased it? Oh nevermind this is “this machine” instead

looks a bit gaudy but can’t complain

[finite basalt]

it's ancient, that case is from 2012

[sinful moon]

lol even in 2012 I would have slapped your hand

[finite basalt]

it could even be from earlier

hang on

nevermind it'll have been around 2008 maybe

[sinful moon]

always been one for more minimalistic cases

[finite basalt]

but the case doesn't have an rgb front anymore and the power button leds actually have electrical tape over them as it runs in my room in the corner haha

[chilly veldt]

Like, this needs some flowers right?
At lest to fill some of the spaces

[finite basalt]

I think you should

they're the server specs and I've got a GT710 for regular graphics if required and a 1050ti for transcoding

It's essentially my old desktop with more storage now

[sinful moon]

lol one moment

[chilly veldt]

Thinking these areas (circles)

[finite basalt]

That could be nice, what sort of flowers?

[finite basalt]

those wires also include wires for my audio, monitor, router, tv and switch hence why there's so many, I actually have 12 plug sockets at my desk currently

[sinful moon]

although ignore the storage space reported

it's actually got 64TB

[chilly veldt]

Like wild floral pieces, DALL-e for inspiration lmao

[finite basalt]

Very nice 😎 I want to get more storage at some point and maybe move to proper server-specced CPU(s) and RAM but as a student this was free more or less
I paid 80 quid for two 3tb drives off a friend and an emotional toll having transported the desktop by train 😭

[finite basalt]

that'll be great, love it

[upbeat seal]

Morning to all guys 😀

[chilly veldt]

Time to freehand some

[finite basalt]

good morning 😄

[sinful moon]

Yeah lol I probably wouldn't recommend an SAS driven RAID setup like this on that sorta budget lol

[chilly veldt]

All stickers are freehand drawn, the text is generated

[finite basalt]

Yeah I'm currently using a less than ideal mix of drives

[sinful moon]

we also have a 48TB NAS on the side as the actual main storage 🙃

for media and etc at least

[finite basalt]

I've a seagate 2tb, a wd green 2tb and x2 WD Red 3TB in BTRFS (data raid 5, metadata and system raid 1)

Once I've graduated uni and am getting full time income again it may be a case of each month treating myself to a new 12tb drive 🤣

[sinful moon]

Nice yeah I just very dumbly have my server's raid broken up between RAID1 on two drives and RAID5 on the rest because I couldn't get a good solution for the OS back when I spun this server up.

[finite basalt]

that's fair, if it works though

[sinful moon]

but thank you hardware RAID controller for letting me do silly things like this

[finite basalt]

my dad has something similar I believe

I think it might be raid 6 though he's using

[sinful moon]

Yeah it's this guy we have

T430

[finite basalt]

think he's got most drives in raid 6 and a couple of smaller drives in raid 1/0 within that

see I like that but I know I won't like the price tag 🤣

is it relatively quiet?

[sinful moon]

With the first two 5.25" drives populated with custom firmware Blu-ray drives for ripping

it's super darn quiet actually, only ever hear it upon reboots

[finite basalt]

hmm fair enough

I'll probably just try and build my own but find a nice tower case that's better suited for it

[sinful moon]

but fair it lives in our work from home office with dozens of other computers and fans which are made to blow at humans which are much louder

[high dragon]

Guys my openvpn file isn't working, it's giving an HMAC authentication failed error, any idea what's happening?

[sinful moon]

Yeah your idea of NUCs or whatever are a better idea

[finite basalt]

I'm debating moving the server downstairs to behind the TV in the living room, it's not very loud so with the TV on you won't notice it but it means I can have true silence in my room

[sinful moon]

but I just wanted iDRAC (lights out management) and hands on the servers I worked on remotely at work badly

[finite basalt]

when my fans not running anyway

[sinful moon]

#site-support c:

[finite basalt]

yeah no, that's one of the reasons I'm not using the poweredge, it's a 2950 and it doesn't have iDRAC or a DRAC card

so i see no benefit to me using older, slower hardware without the drac

[sinful moon]

ah rip. Yeah iDRAC is just lovely. I jsut have the Proxmox installer ISO on my SD card which is mounted as far as the server is concered as a SCSI CD

[finite basalt]

although, ipKVMs are absolutely rising in popularity so if I wanted to I could DIY it

[rapid merlin]

Hello world

How do I get verified?

[sharp citrus]

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Jan 9, 2025, 4:52 AM

[rapid merlin]

ty !

[finite basalt]

🫡

Have you seen any of the RPi based IPKVMs?

https://pikvm.org/ they're actually pretty damn good

[sinful moon]

Yeah I have, neat stuff, but still not everything an iDRAC can do

Okay maybe I didn't know they could do mass storage too lol

[finite basalt]

Yeah it's maybe not quite everything but it can do a lot more than they used to

[sinful moon]

Although yes admittedly not as cute as one of these

[rapid merlin]

Let's go ?

Yeah lets go

🙂

[sinful moon]

Good stuff, congrats and welcome!

[finite basalt]

oh for sure but as far as cost and flexibility goes it's incredible

the fact that any regular desktop can now have nearly equivilant to a drac and it's open sourced and accessible is amazing

[sinful moon]

Meanwhile speaking of hardware modules, I do need a physical TPM model for my PowerEdge at some point 🙃

[finite basalt]

ahh yes

I'm just using FTPM on mine or whatever the AMD version's called

I also ordered these recently, that's why I was setting up the mqtt broker I mentioned earlier

[sinful moon]

yeah most are just in software and are trivial but nah not this PowerEdge lol

[finite basalt]

the lightbulbs were not needed but the plugs are gonna be so useful

[sinful moon]

Ehh just be careful since some cheap smart bulbs are a pain in the butt

[finite basalt]

I want to be able to turn my amp on and off with a remote control (because I can turn the volume up and down with the remote control)

[finite basalt]

well these actually run tasmota

[sinful moon]

like not turning on the first time or needing several tries before they connect

[finite basalt]

ah yeah but worst comes to worst, I get a refund or cry about it 🤣

[sinful moon]

I’d probably go more name brand instead of going all in on the ones my SO did

[finite basalt]

well yeah but I wanted tasmota which you can't get on named brand really

[sinful moon]

also good to VLAN then and etc obvs

[finite basalt]

yeah of course

you heard of tasmota at all? it's actually really cool, allows you to home host it all

[sinful moon]

nope, I don’t trust IoT as far as I can throw them which… actually wait I guess that could be pretty far

[finite basalt]

essentially any smart plug/bulb etc. with an ESP32 can run tasmota and it's designed to allow you to configure it to control it as you want so you can do it through a web UI, serial or MQTT

[hot cairn]

whats really annoying is smart devices that want to be on the same SSID as your device to control it

[finite basalt]

it's open sourced as well so you can actually audit and build it yourself

[hot cairn]

But some PPSK stuff can fix that

[sinful moon]

we do have both a seperate VLAN and SSID for them

[hot cairn]

i have a seperate SSID, but i dont use it much anymore

[finite basalt]

that's what's handy about tasmota as well, the MQTT broker is the only thing that needs to be accessible by the devices controlling or being controlled by it

[hot cairn]

i have it setup so different passwords on my main SSID give dif vlans

so things "think" its the same

[finite basalt]

so I can have an IOT access point which is locked down to the MQTT broker and then have the MQTT broker also accessible on the main network for it to receive inputs from a phone etc.

[sinful moon]

Fair enough, I’m just salty about not always being 100% in control of the home network anymore with my SO also being into tech and me moving in with him

so I have to make do with like “I’m the admin of the server while he futzes around with the network and IoT” lol

[finite basalt]

haha, that's fair, I like this as an option because it's not propietary or third party

[hot cairn]

my SO is non-techy which means i have more to manage 😂

[sinful moon]

I do think I would be a better network and IoT steward but oh well

[finite basalt]

I manage the network in our house at the moment, we're all on the same course at uni but I've set up multiple routers in mesh etc. so I just manage them out of convenience

[sinful moon]

but fair he keeps our Unifi mesh running and Synology going so meh. The Synology is up to 48 TB now

I’m just glad he did finally come to me when he was stuck with our new Proxmox server saying “these threads are telling me to install a bunch of stuff on the server” and I’m glad he didn’t go ahead

since I found so much more of an elegent solution

[finite basalt]

Yeah my thought behind the plugs was that I could do it myself with a relay etc. but then I'm doing mains wiring and that sounds like a bad idea as much as I could do it correctly with research and talking to my dad to confirm things with him first

Instead I thought I'll get a smart plug and hack it but it was weird trying to find ones which were compatible and easy to take apart so I opted to get ones that were pre-flashed

[sinful moon]

Sometimes I still wish for that, but others fair it is very oddly a load off my chest when I can say “not my problem” in my own home lol

[hot cairn]

jealous

[sinful moon]

I do wish it was all up to me but yeah there’s upsides and downsides to having an SO who’s also into tech

[hot cairn]

you should propose building a Ceph Cluster

instead of synology

😉

[finite basalt]

there's also the problem of trying to take networks down for planned maintainance when you live with someone else techy

[sinful moon]

ugh lol

[finite basalt]

because they don't have to understand computers to use them and suddenly it's "why's the internet out?", "how long for?", "did you have to do it now?" etc.

[sinful moon]

Realistically if more of this was up to me we’d be on Jellyfin instead of Plex, we’d be using FreeNAS instead of Synology, etc

[finite basalt]

makes me want to bash my head against a wall when I get complaints about wifi or I need to take it down briefly or restart the router

[sinful moon]

thankfully the ESXi and then Proxmox stuff and managing big iron server and especially anything Linux is my jam and not his at all so that’s all me

he still does every Linux VM with a full graphical enviroment instead of you know… a server but that’s cute, you’re trying

[finite basalt]

Thankfully, my server is for me and no-one else, other people may occasionally use the minecraft server etc. but it's only a few people and not all the time so I don't have to worry too much about taking it down temporarily

[sinful moon]

lol that’s also why I’m thankful for 256GB or RAM and more, we each have more than our own space

I also like laid down the law when we started using Proxmox saying what ID ranges where for what so it didn’t get messy

[finite basalt]

I fear the times when I visit my parents though as I remember times when I was on ethernet over powerline and someone disconnected the plug by accident and suddenly had no wifi upstairs (because I have a router in my room to reach the top floor) and ended up coming back from my parents early to find that there was no problem with the router but that someone had knocked my plug socket in the living room

Yeah no one gets to have access to my proxmox or routers 🤣

[sinful moon]

100 is for management and monitoring, 200 is media ripping, encoding and playback, 300 are utility servers, 400 are game servers, and 500 is testing lab for infosec and learning

[finite basalt]

See I kind of do that but only for the IP ranges

[sinful moon]

lol you just gotta for Proxmox with how inflexable the ID system is

[finite basalt]

new devices get assigned from 100 onwards on the subnet if they're not known and then there's different allocation ranges for things

I just use the groupings rather than caring about IDs for proxmox

[sinful moon]

we already have 200-205 accounted for

[split compass]

ID's are important if you want to use the automation API

[finite basalt]

I'm not running much on mine at the moment but I'll likely be setting up a home lab some time

[sinful moon]

Totally fair to both comments

[finite basalt]

oh yeah absolutely but I don't think i really need that at the moment

[sinful moon]

But yeah without the nice folders and etc of vSphere I’m a bit more anal anyways about where things go

[finite basalt]

the home server at my parents is on esxi at the moment

[sinful moon]

Thankfully previous experience with Proxmox taught me to be a bit more conservative with ensuring these IDs were doled out right

[finite basalt]

I just set things up within resource pools personally

[split compass]

Yeah it's a thing that exists and is there when you want to play with it 🙂

Hmm, I should pick up a JetKVM.

[sinful moon]

yeah meanwhile ESXi is just a mess that’s all alphabetical lol

[split compass]

I only use the API for power management integration with MaaS

[sinful moon]

Also I hope your parents aren’t on VMUG Advantage or else they’ll have the same rude suprise I had

can’t imagine they’re paying for an actual sub, but fair maybe they’re still on legacy perpetual

[finite basalt]

no it's legacy perpetual

It's an old-old version

[jade wing]

Good evening peoples of the internet

[sinful moon]

That helps but yeah sadly no future

[finite basalt]

I think it's like v8 or something

[sinful moon]

6.0ish era?

[finite basalt]

yeah

running on an fx8350

[sinful moon]

oh that’s darn near moden if 8.0

[finite basalt]

it'll be older then

I can't remember how new but it's not a subscription I know that

[sinful moon]

makes sense

[chilly veldt]

Soooo tireeeeed

[sinful moon]

yeah we have a ton of 6.5 and 6.7 that desperately need to be updated which now no longer can be at work

[chilly veldt]

Why did I have to wake up at 0430 😭

[finite basalt]

I was recommending proxmox to my dad actually; however, for what he's actually doing with the server, nethserver would be plenty

[jade wing]

I woke up at 2200 :/

[finite basalt]

he does occasionally run vms but because it's not lots continuously, I reckon he'd be fine using the built in functionality for that

[sinful moon]

Well if nothing else, the ESXi migration feature worked for me perfectly in Proxmox, you just add your ESXi server as a storage pool

[chilly veldt]

Had to be at the office at 0700

[finite basalt]

Oh that's cool

Didn't know that was a thing

[chilly veldt]

Cause I have to fix the lights before people get in

[jolly parcel]

for buying the comptia security+, what did you guys bought? the exam voucher only orrr?

[sinful moon]

Yeah it’s a newer feature but worked great

[finite basalt]

yeah, very handy

[sinful moon]

we ESXi migrated to a spare optiplex with Proxmox, installed Proxmox on PowerEdge and migrated back over after clustering the two

[jade wing]

Not going to lie I was super tired from poor sleep and got off work at 1700, damn near instantly passed out while I was "resting my eyes" then woke up at 2200 freaking out because I had 1h left to shop before tomorrows snow storm hits. I just got back from that, it was... unpleasant. I'm thinking about just calling in tommorow and emailing out my reports tonight.

[finite basalt]

Very handy, I know my dad used to have plenty of poweredges 🤣 that's where I got mine, he got a series 2 and 3 from a business getting rid of them, then got another series 3 so he had a backup server he could spin up if the main one died

[sinful moon]

Although do note you can’t add a machine to a cluster that already has VMs on it. I did a hack to get around it, but neither are “primary” so just choose your server with nothing on it as the one you’re adding to the cluster

[finite basalt]

but unfortunately he got rid of all of them and I ended up taking the series 2 after visiting them

[jade wing]

Back when I did it, I had a subscription for CBT nuggets, and took my A+, Net+, and Sec+ in that order, I used my sub with them for my training (I hear their training for these is still great) and then when I was done with the training I would buy a voucher for the test and schedule the exam as soon as possible

[finite basalt]

I'm actually due to pick up a draytek router when I'm next there

so I'll be able to have proper vlanning setup as well

When I tried to setup vlanning/tagging on my current routers the network shat itself because it's not individual network adapters on the router but a switch and openwrt did not like that 🤣
after the third attempt I gave up out of fear I was pissing the housemates off having to reset and reconfigure the router

[jade wing]

Nowadays you can likely find the same classes, from the same instructors on udemy that are on cbt nuggets without the sub. But you will not have access to labs.

[sinful moon]

I just need to take my Sec+ already. I am certain I can pass without training, I’ve already done some studying in the past and it was all dead simple

[chilly veldt]

Understandable, I got home at 2000 yesterday, went to pick up my friend to drive him to his girlfriend, my tire popped and we used 2 hours waiting for road assistance, getting everything fixed and driving back home, then I had to look at and buy new wheels and tires for my car, and fell asleep at 00 after doing some work

[sinful moon]

I mean I’ve been doing this professionally for four years now

[finite basalt]

I need to go over the PNPT content properly and buy the exam

I keep meaning to do it and I think it'd be a great first cert

[chilly veldt]

Tbh, I'll personally never take SEC+

[finite basalt]

I'm not too interested in the security+ but maybe the pentest+
I feel like if I tried to do security+ I'd zone out

Like I understand its importance but I think my brain would decide it was too dull and just go elsewhere

[sinful moon]

Yeah it feels below me but I at least want one cert under my belt to both give me cofidance and make me look better before I move on to bigger and better

[chilly veldt]

I mean, everyone else can, I just don't find it fitting for my situation and/or future work

[finite basalt]

I also need to do my foundation radio exam, I have no excuse with that cause I swear it's like a tenner and I can do it online

[jade wing]

This was the start of me taking certs, to get a specific job and pay increase at the time, they wanted the trifecta out of the support staff, I think this was like going on... well a long time ago to say the least

[finite basalt]

I also really should use my AWS CCP voucher that work gave me, I need to practice that first though cause I don't want to use it and fail

[jade wing]

I always tell people unless you are really new, and I mean it, skip the comptia certs if you already have experience in the industry in any fashion. They are expensive as hell, and though they give fantastic foundations, it is unlikely to help you if you are already established in tech.

[sinful moon]

So far I have 0 certs but 4 years of incredible sounding job experience doing it all

[finite basalt]

but the book I had for it was so dull, reading kernel source code while hungover was more interesting 😭

I started reading it backwards it was that bad

[jade wing]

Now with that being said, there are plenty of people I have met that are so technologically inept I 100% tell them to take that path first to ensure they get proper foundations

[finite basalt]

My problem with certs is the movement to subscription based models
I think it's scummy as fuck

[sinful moon]

It’s scary how many CS majors get into the field and when you meet them they don’t know the first thing lol

[jade wing]

I will change that to inept as to not be ableist unintentionally

[finite basalt]

when I started my university degree there were people in my class who struggled for 15 minutes to turn on the computer

it is safe to say they did not make it through the year

[sinful moon]

imho self taught peeps are always much more highly respected but I’m obviously bias

[sinful moon]

haha sounds about right

[jade wing]

I interview "Sr", "Lead" and "Architect" positions all the time and am shocked at how bad the industry is

[finite basalt]

It goes two ways, I'm mostly self-taught and will say that some people it works out great, they know their stuff and do it well
others, they know how to make it work

[sinful moon]

but peeps of your generation have largely been taught on tablets and more growing up which is just wild to me

we are shomehow backsliding as a society

[jade wing]

Wait of whos generation?

[finite basalt]

Meanwhile half of us are graduating and there's literally no jobs because it's so saturated

[sinful moon]

I mean I’m in my 30s lol

[jade wing]

I'm about to be 40 lol

I'm 38 right now

[finite basalt]

I'm looking to go into cyber security but I'm actually thinking of starting in software dev and moving

[jade wing]

so I say about to be but you know

[sinful moon]

fair, but I was talking to James specifically

[jade wing]

its splitting hairs at this point

[sinful moon]

I can’t imagine someone of our generations struggling to turn on a computer at all

[finite basalt]

Oh me, I'm early 20s so just before they started using tablets

There was no excuse for people to be struggling, i will have been the youngest in the class as I'm an august baby

[jade wing]

Yea the saturation is real, it's mainly because of boot camps, and degree mills, not to mention the people who flat out lie on their resumes.

Often time they interview with other people who don't know their ass from their elbow and land the job

[finite basalt]

yeah, lying in general infuriates me but lying on resumes etc. really angers me because there's stretching the truth without lying and then there's is outright lying

[sinful moon]

I saw that with a former “server admin” we hired

it was just painful

[finite basalt]

like if you say you write documents instead of letters it's open to interpretation but not lying, if you said you were writing to CEOS to negotiate deals when you wrote letters to the customer service team it's just outright lies

and that angers me purely on the basis that they've taken the job from someone else who knew their shit

not to mention the fact that much more training and handholding is then required

[sinful moon]

he had 0 motivation nor knowledge how to fix extremely common issues like, idk, just diagnosing low drive space on a server. I could understand if he needed help expanding the drive in ESXi but nah never went that far. He just asked if it was an issue and just kinda “left it”

[jade wing]

Oh dude, listen, I lied big time early in my career to land jobs. I had a fake it till you make it attitude, but I backed it up with skill and tenacity. I would apply for a job, research what they needed, learn it, then on the resume and interview make up scenarios that were really just me labbing them previously to back my experience up. Then I would stay up for hours on end once I landed the job learning and making sure I didn't dissapoint. I did this for many years learning various tech until I became a legit unicorn in the fields I would work because I knew so much. That to me is acceptable if you can pull it off. But takes a specific kind of person to do it and its only acceptable for entry level roles. You start bsing at high level roles, yea nah, no mercy.

[finite basalt]

Yeah I knew a lad who was lovely but coding wasn't his strongest skill, could do it but he wasn't particularly fast
I remember him actively refusing to read documentation at one point and I ended up saying to him, I'm not helping you till you read the documentation because you're obstructing me from my work.

[stoic quarry]

Sometimes it's just hard to understand

[sinful moon]

Yeah that’s a bit different from the guy who we experienced indeed, you more than put in the effort for sure

[stoic quarry]

Man pages are so bad to read sometimes

But it's gotten better

[finite basalt]

That's the thing, I don't necessarily think lying is terrible if you put in the work to actually do what you claimed to do

[sinful moon]

this guy just had an impressive af resume which never was reflected in job performance

[chilly veldt]

Welcome to reading manuals

[stoic quarry]

Mmhm

[finite basalt]

The worst I experienced was being asked to help and then as I approached they brought up chatGPT

[stoic quarry]

Yikes

I've seen that before

[sinful moon]

Have you heard of our lord and savor, colored man pages?

one second

[chilly veldt]

I've seen people at stores use chatgpt to help people asking for help

[finite basalt]

I turned round them and said, "while I might have limited professional experience, I have over a decade of personal experience with programming, you've asked me for help but expect chatGPT to give a better answer, don't ask me for help if you're gonna do that"

[stoic quarry]

Gonna be worrying in the next few years how common it is to use an LLM for basic searches, it'll be so over

[jolly parcel]

is the exam face to face?

[stoic quarry]

No one will know anything lol

[jade wing]

For sure, you can always tell and easily seperate the people who are legit curious and hungry for knowledge and looking for a chance, from the people that are looking to scam the system and get some free money. I try and be lenient on the former as long as they are respectful.

[finite basalt]

chatgpt is the bane of my existence, I absolutely hate it

[chilly veldt]

Same

[sinful moon]

bah let me just pull it from a .zshrc I have, that will be easier

[jade wing]

Often times in an interview I will just be like, it's ok to not know. Just say so. I will eben give you the answer and tell you why so you learn. I am not always looking for a rockstar.

[stoic quarry]

Don't trust a system that can't tell you how many r's are in strawberry with your codebase

[finite basalt]

I remember saying to that same lad, "what'd you do before chatgpt existed" and his answer was copy youtube videos and struggle

[chilly veldt]

It can give good generative ideas, cause that's what it is

[finite basalt]

not even google or documentation, youtube videos and struggle 😭

I'm like man, you're doing programming for your work, what do you mean struggle

[sinful moon]

# Colored man pages
export LESS_TERMCAP_mb=$'\E[01;34m'
export LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\E[01;34m'
export LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\E[0m'
export LESS_TERMCAP_se=$'\E[0m'
export LESS_TERMCAP_so=$'\E[01;44;32m'
export LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\E[0m'
export LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\E[01;32m'

[tight coral]

The game

[stoic quarry]

I'm such a goober I will genuinely be so excited when this stuff has colors

Sweeet

[finite basalt]

see I'm less patient with it because I was raised to believe that lying is a form of disrespect

[sinful moon]

put that in your ~/.zshrc or something and it will make everything blue and green in a pleasing way

[stoic quarry]

Thank you very much I shall add this

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sinful moon (current: #34 - 264)

[finite basalt]

To me lying is an attempt to take me for a fool and therefore is inherently disrespectful

[jade wing]

No, if you test at a testing center, it's you, and the test machine. You are on camera though and make sure you read the rules. If you take it online it will be "face to face" in the sense that you will be on camera and have to be direct in front of it and they are very strict. I don't recommend taking them online. Def go to a testing center.

[finite basalt]

I'm very much like my mum though in that I won't immediately call out the lie but my face will 🤣

[sinful moon]

makes them a bit more nicely readable

[finite basalt]

there's also the web versions for some of them ^

[stoic quarry]

Oh no, I use fish

Might take some changin

[sinful moon]

it should work in fish as well even tho that's gross

[stoic quarry]

Lmao why's that?

[sinful moon]

it's changing the strings for less

because fish is using a web server just for config

[finite basalt]

if we're going controversial I have one question

[stoic quarry]

Seriously?

[sinful moon]

yes

[finite basalt]

I shall sow the seeds of chaos with three words

[jade wing]

For me its circumstantial, the people I am talking about are young and just doing their best to get their foot in the door. I educate them on why they shouldn't lie and let them know I don't tolerate it but I will give them a free pass in the sense that I don't out right term the interview and let them try again. IF they continue then thats that.

[finite basalt]

nano or vim?

[sinful moon]

if you didn't know your shell is running a web server

[jolly parcel]

ohh thats cool to know, thanks dude

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @jade wing (current: #265 - 24)

[stray tapir]

whats everyone been up to?

[sinful moon]

trick question, neovim

[finite basalt]

🤣

[stray tapir]

same

[sinful moon]

but I'm still more than happy with vim on most systems that aren't my mains

[finite basalt]

Neovim as a concept is actually really cool, I'll never use vi-derivatives unless I have no choice because I was raised with nano but it's definitely powerful

you seen the lazy-vim stuff?

[jade wing]

On my way to getting out of being the color of a highlighter.

[finite basalt]

I knew a lad who actually did a lot of his programming work in lazy-vim which iirc that's a series of macros and scripts on top of neovim

[sinful moon]

fair but honestly I don't think actually learning vim is all that difficult compared to everything else you have to learn about Linux

[finite basalt]

oh no, I understand how to use vim I just prefer the ease of nano

[sinful moon]

I actually don't do much fancy in vim or nvim, I just kinda stick to the basics

[finite basalt]

I don't know some of the more fancy controls for it but I can edit a document in vim etc. it's just that nano is a much friendlier UI to me

[sinful moon]

if I need something fancy I will be a heretic and use (VS) Code

[jade wing]

Same, and vim is nowhere near as painful as people make it out to be if they take the time to read how to use it. emacs on the other hand shutters

[stray tapir]

I'm way too autist to understand what you mean, but I assume it means you're sick.

[sinful moon]

nano I just can't stand the keybinds for personally

[jade wing]

I love VSCode, I don't care what anybody says.

[finite basalt]

the colleague I mentioned who used neovim/lazyvim actually used a vscode extension to turn his vscode into vim 🤣

[jade wing]

My rank color being piss yellow lol

[finite basalt]

VSCode is elite

[sinful moon]

Yeah the vim extention for VSCode is very popular although funnily enough I don't use it

[stoic quarry]

Baller move

[finite basalt]

not the most memory efficient but it's surpassed atom, sublime etc.

I also love the extensions on vscode icl

there's the shittify plugin which is the opposite of prettify

I don't use it in production but it does generate some beautiful comments

[sinful moon]

Yeah while you can force (n)vim into being an IDE... why would you when VSCode exists lol.

[finite basalt]

I love leaving the occasional funny comment within my code

[rugged kayak]

mornin everyone

[jade wing]

Lmao, oh man I have to check that one out now

[sinful moon]

vim is for quick editing of scripts

imho

[split compass]

Prefer Codium; but it is a decent IDE either way.

[sinful moon]

perfection for such, but not an enviroment to live in

[finite basalt]

and then there's the vscode brainrot plugin

Where it throws subway surfers clips on the side of the screen haha

[jade wing]

I do a lot of cloud native stuff in azure and aws and the plugins are invaluable to me in vscode.

[chilly veldt]

gotta love blue collar hours at a white collar job

[finite basalt]

or the one where it's mr incredible in varying states of anguish depending on the number of errors in your code

[split compass]

But yeah, I just graduated from Notepad++ to LazyVIM this year as my main code editor.
I'm not much of an IDE person. 😄

[stray tapir]

wait is that actually a thing?

[chilly veldt]

it's so quite at 0645 at the office

[split compass]

VS Codium is VS Code, will take your .vsix
Just isn't running in a bloated electron package.

[jade wing]

vscode has ALL your plugin needs friend

[finite basalt]

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=VirejDasani.incredibly-in-your-face
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=jirkavrba.subway-surfers

[sinful moon]

well then there's always this launguage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

[stray tapir]

no way 🤣

[chilly veldt]

I did this for a physical 1v1 pwn tournament

[split compass]

Malbolge is a fun one

[finite basalt]

I absolutely love it haha

[jade wing]

I tried codium probably 2-3 years ago and I had some compatibility issues. I assume it's mostly better now?

[chilly veldt]

we where streaming our screens on the scene, so everyone could see the plugins

[finite basalt]

And you've got the vscode server you can setup

[chilly veldt]

the same did my teammate at defcons live pwn

[finite basalt]

so you can have a web-based version that multiple people can write to simultaneously

absolutely amazing

[sinful moon]

Last time I tried Codium on Linux yeah it was just fine, but fair I wasn't trying out Azure plugins

[finite basalt]

wait till you try ✨ teams on linux ✨

[sinful moon]

Powershell stuff was working fine though

[finite basalt]

that's a great experience

[jade wing]

You mean saying fuck it and using the webapp right?

Right?

[sinful moon]

you all keep getting me to move back to a proper computer though, alright back to my iPad with a keyboard as I wind down for the night lol

[finite basalt]

Man we have a game where if you leave your laptop unlocked and don't keep an eye on it someone can write doughnuts on it and you owe the office doughnuts
I don't keep teams open and it takes that damn long to open that I'm impossible to get without me catching you

It's security by impracticality 🤣 in the 14 months I was in the office full time I never got caught

[finite basalt]

nuh uh

[jade wing]

Hell I love my apple ecosystem.

Got a windows PC for gaming (only for gaming), a full apple ecosystem, and then my "pwntop" with linux on it

best of all three worlds right there

[sinful moon]

Can’t complain, I was moving from my M4 iPad Pro to my M4 Mac Mini to pull my ~/.zshrc and etc

[split compass]

Hmm neat tio[.]run (Try It Online)
Malbolge: Hello World

`CB]V?Tx<uVtT`Rpo3NlF.Jh++FdbCBA@?]!~|4XzyTT43Qsqq(Lnmkj"Fhg${z@>```

[finite basalt]

imma head off for a nap as it's 6am 😭

[sinful moon]

yeah I just have my M4 Mac Mini as my *nix machine for infosec and dev purposes at work as one of my three screens in my work from home setup

[finite basalt]

take care all of you

[sinful moon]

See ya James, great chatting as always!

[stray tapir]

I've never used macos before

[sinful moon]

I do have a bit more Linux than you do, but otherwise this is pretty accurate. Although I’m forced to use Windows and be a Windows Sysadmin at work on top of my Linux sysadmin/infosec/whatever tasks and more

[whole yew]

no need for extra repos with vim - vscod(e|ium) approvals might be problematic for many places

[jade wing]

Oh I have my windows laptop for work as well, and I have a grip of linux on my proxmox cluster.

I just mean my daily drivers.

[sinful moon]

Totally fair and yeah I was droning on about my Proxmox cluster ealier lol, love it after finally getting it off ESXi

[sinful moon]

Like change approvals just for extensions?

[whole yew]

additionally, with default packages in repos, no need to worry about external dependency or connecting your local vscode instance to the devbox with ssh

[stoic quarry]

I gotta get proxmox set up once I move into my new place

[sinful moon]

actually yeah VSCode’s remote fuctions have been known to be an issue reciently infosec wise indeed

[stoic quarry]

Just need more time lmao

[whole yew]

approval for the software itself, then approval for extensions - i get that many orgs will just be like 'well ok if you say so' but i've also worked in places where change management was a nightmare for needing/wanting unapproved software

[sinful moon]

I am all about vim and use it most of the time, but if I’m given a big project (honestly usually personal game dev) yeah I’ll more typically use vscode

[whole yew]

don't forget the multiple instances of supply chain attacks and namesquatting on popular extensions within vscode as well

[sinful moon]

No I totally get that, I think we’re just in completely different orders of magnitude in size of org

[whole yew]

used to be, maybe

these days i work for a startup

no more IBM for me

[chilly veldt]

and now, new lights are ordered for the office as well

[sinful moon]

sure just still not like 6 techs total c:

[chilly veldt]

gotta love working in IT, but also doing office management

[whole yew]

my big problem is getting people to adhere to the policy and standards my group writes

[sinful moon]

Interesting to hear you’ve moved on though and best of luck! That does sound exciting

[chilly veldt]

but ello Juun, long time

[whole yew]

we are required by regulation to have a 24-7 SOC, so my team is 7 people

i've been in startup world for over a year now

hey bella

[sinful moon]

ah fair enough

[chilly veldt]

we have 24/7 SOC and we are 6 people 😭

it's me and another person doing night shifts

[whole yew]

7 people is including the director.... if one of our security engineers calls out, we have a coverage gap for the day

[sinful moon]

meanwhile we comply with regulations with our SOC being outsourced and I’m the internal manager for such, it is wild

less than ideal but oh well

[chilly veldt]

same here

[whole yew]

technically our soc is outsourced. but they work so closely with us, they are basically employees

[chilly veldt]

we are 6 analysts

luckily night shift is just on-call and not eyes-on-screen

[whole yew]

myself, the other senior engineer (who i am teaching pentest to), 2 2nd shift, 2 3rd shift, and 1 weekend staff

[sinful moon]

we have one analyst and infosec everything and that’s… me! lol

[whole yew]

i've moved mostly into management, right now coordinating and writing DFIR guidelines and procedures, and managing a couple of external processes

[chilly veldt]

we have 4 fulltime tier 1 analysts, and 2 part timers (me and another) and I do both analyst and escalation at time.
plus engineering

[jade wing]

Need to have leadership backing often times, within your limits also sometimes you can't give a choice and have to enforce it. Just depends on circumstance. When people keep violating policies you need to write up a detailed document stating the risks, the causes, the outcomes etc. Send it up the chain. If they tell you it's ok, then they have acknowledged the risk and accepted it. Make sure you clarify in a follow up email by saying: "Just to clarify are you acknowledging the risk and accepting it?". This will do one of two things:

1. It will force them to reconsider their position as now their name will be attached to a paper trail. This can result in them backing you.

2. They say, "yes" in which case, you have done your job.

Sadly in the professional world often times it breaks down to you can only do so much. Just make sure you CYA and it's all good.

[whole yew]

Eh, I appreciate what you say. But I know what the problem is, and it's not really any of that.

[jade wing]

If its really egregious and it present a clear and present danger level of risk, you might be forced to loop in their boss on the email chain as well and restate your case.

[jade wing]

Fair enough.

[chilly veldt]

I have to write DFIR guides soon, have a meeting with one of the IR/Red teaming people on friday, and I will write guides and lists of what tools they should use for what and when

[whole yew]

I'm experienced enough that everythign gets documented at least 3 times: email, email export attached to secure ticket location, and then put into audit-able file storage

if my artifact goes missing, it's a canary situation and it's time to lawyer up

[sinful moon]

Also while we are concerned about internal threats, yeah much of our focus are on threats to our significantly less savvy clients as an MSP

[whole yew]

so much of the internal threat is accidental and not intentional

[sinful moon]

That’s not to say I haven’t prevented major internal issues before

[chilly veldt]

we had a client yesterday who tried to torrent god of war 😭

[whole yew]

even from employees who really do know better

when i worked for the BPO, we had a call center tech who loved to install steam and riot games on every machine he touched

[sinful moon]

freaking ouch

[chilly veldt]

lmao

[whole yew]

and that's not going anywhere near the epidemic of pirated content that the agents would bring in on USBs and plug in

[sinful moon]

just like use a non-work machine? I mean that’s literally what I do? It’s not on the VPN or anything

[whole yew]

for some reason the GPO couldn't disable the USB ports, I never got the full reason why. Just a thing we had to accept risk on because the system owners refused to remediate

[chilly veldt]

I mean, sure, I have malware laying on my machines, but that's because I have analysed it, and it's laying in a locked folder and can't be ran

[stoic quarry]

Addicted to LoL, just not during work hours : )

[whole yew]

"well sure, you don't have to fix it

.... But if we get popped for this, you are 100% accepting the risk for it"

[sinful moon]

I did catch a co-worker visibly sharing emulation ROMs with another via one of our internal technologies before though and was like what the heck

[chilly veldt]

yay, 3 people already decided to work from home today, more cake to me

[whole yew]

that's a panda cheese moment for sure

[sinful moon]

but considering that’s the worst I ever saw, I wasn’t going to report them for that

[whole yew]

i would have absolutely posed the question, hypothetically, to legal about the consequences to the company if that didn't get locked down, Elizabeth

[sinful moon]

doesn’t help that I moderated emulation communities before so I understand but please guys, do it more on the DL than that

hah what legal team?

[whole yew]

also remember that your role may actually require you to be an obligatory reporter for DMCA at the very least

[sinful moon]

my boss is the CEO

[whole yew]

think about where the liability is

if they get popped, is it going to be your CEO that accepts responsibility or is he going to say it's you, because you are the SME and had demonstrable knowledge about the situation

[chilly veldt]

the worst I have seen at work is... idk if it's allowed by the rules to say

[sinful moon]

for sure, but yeah it never went beyond that, I just found it majorly sus and yes could potentially be indicative of further ill-deeds

[chilly veldt]

let's just say... homemade videos, on the CEO's laptop

[whole yew]

as security, if you knew about it and were deposed for a lawsuit you might be personally liable for the assessed DMCA damages

[sinful moon]

but yeah in a company under 15 employees, I’d be rocking the boat and could potentially get someone fired

[whole yew]

that's a misuse of company property, bella..... too bad they'll never face the same consequences if anyone else did it

[chilly veldt]

yeah, I was working tech support, and the CEO wanted to "retire" the laptop and make it his own personal, so I had to clean it up for all company related settings, remove it from AD etc.

[whole yew]

you can always issue a warning in the abstract. "So I know it's super tempting to do this, and I totally get why you would.... but lets say this happened on the network. I can see that, and I am personally liable for this kind of thing that is legally defined as IP theft. If, purely hypothetically, I were to see this again I would have to do something about it"

[sinful moon]

You are most very not wrong juun and I know I am sounding rather causal about it but I’d also have to admit I was peeking into what my coworkers were doing which is not actually normally a part of my pervue. I may wear the security hat, but I am not supposed to monitor my co-workers what soever

[chilly veldt]

and as soon as I opened file explorer the previews popped up in the "often opened" page that you get when you just click file explorer

I talked with coworkers if we should report it when I closed the ticket, but they only asked if it was CP or not, and if it wasn't, then we didn't want to deal with it

[whole yew]

yeah, then definitely don't poke your nose in. If your remit doesn't cover security for employees and only for clients, don't put yourself into a place of exposure and being forced to accept liability

[sinful moon]

I was just curious why one of them was connected to their other’s machine and just saw in the logs what files they were transferring, I didn’t watch, but was a coincidence of me being like what’s going on here for a sec lol

My boss has been pretty clear that he handles our internal security, sometimes to our detriment despite my pleading lol, so I am mostly hands off there besides bugging him about critical updates

[whole yew]

if he says it's not your problem, i would definitely accept that and stay away from bugging him about it unless you need something updated

if he's not open to you being involved in that side of it, it's really absolutely not a good place for experimentation

[sinful moon]

Yep that’s largely what I’ve done, although I did have to warn him three times before something very bad nearly happened.

[whole yew]

and honestly, i'm surprised you are still there if this is the same place. you've been there forever, how haven't you run out of new things to do there

[jolly aspen]

When is the lifetime special of this scandal debuting

[sinful moon]

No trust me, I’m about at that point. I’ve worn just about all the hats and done so much. Gotten tons of experience and do feel like it may be time. But this is a steady paycheck and it’ll be hard to find another org who will allow me to work completely remote without relocating. That is an astute observation because that is how I am feeling

I’ve been putting out feelers so we shall see

[whole yew]

good luck

if it's worth anything, my current job is 100% remote, main office is 4500 miles away

[sinful moon]

whew that beats my 800 miles by a good bit lol

[whole yew]

i go visit HQ maybe once a quarter. Should be less now that the office got destroyed by Milton

[sinful moon]

and thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @whole yew (current: #11 - 796)

[chilly veldt]

oh yeah, don't know if you have heard juun, I have a salary meeting next week with my manager

[sinful moon]

lol I have never been to our office which is just wild

[whole yew]

oh sorry, it's only 4k miles round trip. just under 2k

good luck on that too, bella

[chilly veldt]

I went down with stress in December, had to take 2 weeks off, and then contacted my manager and his manager (CEO) and asked if we could have a meeting about salary, expectations, and responsibilities

cause I am still in my apprenticeship

[whole yew]

pretty sure they aren't allowed to dock you for medical related

which stress is medical related

[chilly veldt]

yeah, idk if you remember the whole apprenticeship situation

[whole yew]

i knew you had one

i know that you decided to walk out on apprenticing/internshiping with a coworker a couple of years ago