general

[glass nest]

Mullen! Cmon man, Any news?

[fossil merlin]

I shot them a follow up yesterday, nothing so far.

I think the IT guy is on vacation still. It's killing me .. 😭😭💀

You guys are kind to care

I got my suit pressed and repaired tho

[dense grove]

Im in Serbia here authorities barely know how to use a website. I would have to report it somewhere else idk I will find something

[sick lance]

This would be illegal.

[fossil merlin]

New dress shoes too

[glass nest]

petar, I think you'd be surprised. Have you ever seen the computer lab in a police facility?

[fossil merlin]

They are sophisticated

[slate phoenix]

Sheesh, lot of log analysis for advent of cyber this year

[crude stump]

Well in previous take downs they contact the website hosting company and present a warrant, that’s if they actually go through with the warrant

[sick lance]

The Cellebrite terminals are amazing.

[dense grove]

Well I hope I am wrong.

[sick lance]

It's mainly aimed at soc afaik.

[slate phoenix]

Ah, makes sense.

[dense grove]

Oh yeah that makes sense

Are you guys all from the US?

[glass nest]

honestly, SO many young folk come on here, say the same thing as you (Although less politely). The authorities in a country have a lot more resources than you think. Might not be in your local station, as it's likely centralised in the capital or some other large-ish city

[crude stump]

I am he’s

Yes

[sick lance]

Nah majority are probably UK

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/murica-merica-america-usa-us-gif-4163007710547964960

[hushed creek]

Hey I am new and I have a question. Does streak level ever freeze or stay where you left?

[snow pike]

What authorities returning money to victims or authorities punishing those responsible lol

[chilly veldt]

there's different streak freezes you can get

[sharp citrus]

Streak freeze

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/7843540-streak-freeze

Dec 4, 2024, 9:50 PM

[sick lance]

The message I replied to doesn't make it clear what you're exactly saying.

[dense grove]

Nice to meet ya all btw

[crude stump]

Also this is really cool. The fbi published the warrant on the infamous redline info stealer https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdtx/media/1375141/dl?inline

[snow pike]

I was responding to the message

[dense grove]

no but I am making an educated guess. A month ago they tried to cover a tragedy by deleting files (long story). They tried to cover up the corruption. They failed

[crude stump]

This shows the redacted warrant for the sites the hosting company has to take down

[dense grove]

damn this seems interesting

But @glass nest I really hope that you are right

[crude stump]

The take down was very interesting, tons of agency’s worked together

Europol fbi etc

[dense grove]

nicee

[naive violet]

@glass nest Built my morse code beeper for use with headphones
Then broke it by overtightening the nuts on the headphone jack and morse key jack
Fixed it again tonight

[glass nest]

don't know your own strength

[naive violet]

1941 morse key, lovely thing, proper mil surp

[glass nest]

At least now, if you find yourself in WW2, you can find work as a codebreaker

[molten sky]

The good ones are

[naive violet]

I didn't say my morse code was any good, hence building a beeper to practice

[crude stump]

Who’s the good ones

[boreal scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/@HamRadioToday

Dunno if I've linked this channel to you before

[naive violet]

Paddle key, interesting choice

[karmic furnace]

now I just need to mentally prepare for the CEH exam in 8 hours.

[glass nest]

https://tenor.com/view/blametherobot-onesie-training-montage-epic-training-montage-montage-gif-17970330

[karmic furnace]

its nice they give you 4 hours for 125 questions

[dense grove]

Btw guys my school's site keeps getting hacked and they asked me to help them but idk I don't have much experience in wordpress and that stuff.

[karmic furnace]

why are they even using wordpress

[glass nest]

So.. Why did they ask you then?

[dense grove]

I have no idea

[dense grove]

I guess they dont have anyone better to ask

[karmic furnace]

you know, 3rd parties exist..

[glass nest]

@naive violet Theres a military surplus store near me. Sometimes they have those cool headsets in... I can keep an eye out for one if ya want 😄

[naive violet]

I've got some decent surplus stores near me

[boreal scarab]

If they have a tank, send it my way!

[glass nest]

Petar - Surely they wouldnt ask a random student

[naive violet]

The ham radio swap meets are great, like a car boot taken to the extreeme

[dense grove]

I promise I am not lying

[glass nest]

This one is basically 2 warehouses, and as they have a naval base nearby, he always has tons of stuff

If they did, petar, they did. Just seems odd is all.

[naive violet]

To translate for our American friend (@matt.8) a flea market taken to the extreme

Huh that didn't ping

[boreal scarab]

@boreal scarab

[glass nest]

Oh, It doesnt work if theres a parentheses immediatly before it

[boreal scarab]

I pinged myself, you're welcome lol

[glass nest]

Or you banned him. Either way 😄

[nimble trellis]

How often should i reset/wipe my VM

[dense grove]

Yeah well maybe they are becoming somewhat desperate it doesn't really look good when one of the best schools has arabian malware on its site.

I get to customize the site and present it tho

[boreal scarab]

I know the makerspace I went to had a swap of old computer and HAM gear out the back of trunks. But in looking for military surplus in NJ, there's far and few between

[dense grove]

Depends on what are you doing on it

[glass nest]

I mean.. doesnt look good for one of the best schools to assign a student with 0 experience to protect it from baddies

[dense grove]

Sure but I think I can do a better job then them honestly I just dont know if its worth the time

[nimble trellis]

So no after just doing aoc

[glass nest]

Better than, say, an IT teacher?

Sorry, I'm being overly harsh. Just an unusual situation is all.

[sand trench]

have an old laptop with it yes

[dense grove]

You'd be really surprised

[dense grove]

No it's okay I understand

[glass nest]

When I was young, I once thought I knew more than the teacher. Turns out I was wrong.

[boreal scarab]

Oh, I can buy a WW2 German leathercoat for only a couple of grand....

[glass nest]

As it happens, The evenings I spent messing about on a computer didn't really compare to someone who had a degree in it and taught it to many people on a daily basis

[dense grove]

Well they teach us excel at school and how to use it

[crude stump]

I don’t

[dense grove]

Thats the thing I want that kind of education

[crude stump]

I recommend just keeping a snapshot of a clean vm

[glass nest]

Which you need time for. And a 40yr old teacher will have had way more time and resources to study it than a 15yr old student. So, as much as you may think you know more than them, it's unlikely. (not impossible, just unlikely)

[crude stump]

Which makes sense

What they do is repetitive

Unless they somehow teach a completely new thing they never taught about which is pretty unlikely

[glass nest]

True, and there will likely be SOME interest in the subject, and motivation to learn more

[crude stump]

Definitely

Ik I would go crazy trying to teach a class

[dense grove]

Yeah I completely agree but I try to talk to my IT teacher about stuff that isn't school related and he just doesn't know even simple stuff. Sad reality is that our IT education isn't even close to yours

[crude stump]

I mean, what type of IT do they do

[dense grove]

I love tryhackme because I learn from it I would also love to have a good education in a school with someone certified who actually loves their work and isnt there to collect a paycheck

[dense grove]

To be compeletely honest I have no idea.

[glass nest]

thats the dream - however - School is important.

[crude stump]

Theres a chance your IT person just fixes computers and stuff

[glass nest]

Maybe some folk feel the same way about maths, science or history. School is where you find that out. After school, that when you pursue your chosen path, armed with a basic knowledge of a wide range of things

Don't be in a hurry to grow up, Petar 🙂

[dense grove]

yeah agreed

[crude stump]

Be in the hurry to learn. Learning is fun

[dense grove]

they teach us excel. Im not in middle school 😭

[crude stump]

Atleast for me it is

[dense grove]

It is

[glass nest]

Excel is a VERY useful thing to learn

[patent ore]

maybe a stupid question, but how do I differentiate between walkthrough and a challenge room when I have them open?

[glass nest]

A challenge will usually only have a couple of qestions asking for a flag. A walk through will.. well, walk your through it, and have a lot more texts to guide you

[dense grove]

Tho tbh I was surprised but some people in my class were amazed that excel can calculate ☠️

[glass nest]

As i'm sure you were amazed when you found out that Magnesium makes a bright flash when set to a flame. Everyone is differnt, everyone knows different things. School is there to teach a wide range of kids a wide range of stuff. Some of it will be basic to you, some will be complicated.

[dense grove]

Of course but I feel like in that class we should learn programming languages like C# or C++ maybe something simpler like python idk

[dense grove]

Okay you are comepletely right with this one

I agree

[glass nest]

Why? Programming is only useful for a very specific range of career paths.

Why would a doctor need to know programming? Or a Lawyer?

[dense grove]

Well its IT

[glass nest]

Yeah. And they are teaching it to EVERYONE. not just people who want to eventually go into IT

[languid jacinth]

Do I need the vm for day 4?

[glass nest]

I can see why a Doctor or Lawyer would benefit from knowing how to use Excel and basic computer functions.

[dense grove]

Okay yeah

[molten sky]

tbf, the same thing can be said for whatever reason I had to take endless classes on physics for a CS degree

[glass nest]

@rapid merlin so my nephs and neices are 2,2,5,8,8 and 10. Do you reckon a handmade wand would be a good xmas gift for them?

[dense grove]

Btw all my cards are blocked now. My borther tried to purchase something from a scam ad I have to open new cards now

[glass nest]

Productivity - In uni you learn that Biology is Chemistry, Chemistry is Physics, Physics is Engineering and Engineering is maths

[crude stump]

Rip

[dense grove]

Yeah

[dense grove]

Everything leads back to mathematics

[glass nest]

Or Magic.

[dense grove]

RIP. At least I stopped the money transfers

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[crude stump]

That’s good

[dense grove]

Yeah yeah magic

https://tenor.com/view/shots-slam-gif-22251782

It was nice talking to you guys. I have to finish some things now. Be back idk soon

[glass nest]

Peace out, Petar. Sorry if I came across as harsh, not my intention 🙂

[dense grove]

Not at all. I respect everybody's opinions and you made some pretty good points I must say.

[rapid merlin]

Question is there like a list of the vunerable systems?

or a iso of the vunerable systems?

[chilly veldt]

KQL go brrr

[glass nest]

Well, The site has like..900 rooms. Most have some sort of vulnerable machine

[rapid merlin]

Looking for stuff like "damn vulnerable web application"

[glass nest]

OWASP top 10 or Juice Shop?

[mossy river]

Juice shop

[chilly veldt]

https://github.com/Orange-Cyberdefense/GOAD

[rapid merlin]

oh hell yeah

I'm trying to do something very dumb rn

[earnest thunder]

guys, this promotion is not working anymore? (#announcements message)

[chilly veldt]

yeah, black friday is over

but AoC has a promotion

[rapid merlin]

Yeah and I want one 😂

[chilly veldt]

me too!

[earnest thunder]

is there any coupon? 😦

[chilly veldt]

check the room

[glass nest]

Stealth - Maybe after xmas 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Okay 😌

[chilly veldt]

I want one too!

[rapid merlin]

I’ve been in bed for hours

[glass nest]

Mmkay. 2 wands so far.

[rapid merlin]

I can’t sleep, I’m so ill and my nose is blocked

[glass nest]

I guess Fae and mrs fae might want one aswell, so thats 4...

[chilly veldt]

awwwweeeee

I am working

[glass nest]

Nasalus unblockium!

[chilly veldt]

best way to work is at 12 am with a head scratcher, on your head

[rapid merlin]

How dumb would it be for someone not in cybersecurity to attempt signing up for a capture the flag game with zero experience but a couple weeks to learn the basics?

[mossy river]

Not dumb at all

[chilly veldt]

not dumb at all

[glass nest]

0 dumbness

[rapid orbit]

Depends of the CTF tbh, but not a dumb idea.

[shut hawk]

conclusion: not dumb

next question

[rapid merlin]

it's a work event meant for the actual security department

[rapid orbit]

Yeah go for it then

[rapid merlin]

thanks for the support yall I wasn't sure if I had no chance at winning or not

[chilly veldt]

it's all about the learning

not the winning

[rapid orbit]

Winning is another thing, but you should learn a few things along the way

[glass nest]

@shut hawk I made you an xmas Mordecai!

[fair lava]

Well if you're unprepared it would be overwhelming more than dumb, which doesn't mean that you can't feel dumb, maybe even frustrated if you refure to learn anything beforehand

[chilly veldt]

I have a CTF finals next week

[glass nest]

@shut hawk see --> #general message

[rapid merlin]

I intend to do as much learning as possible to put up a decent fight

if I capture a couple flags at least I'll have done well

[glass nest]

Mate, if you get further than an nmap scan, it's a win.

[shut hawk]

No way, so am I!

But for the UK team

[chilly veldt]

Niiiice

where your challs also just reused ones?

[shut hawk]

yes

very much so

[chilly veldt]

same here

[shut hawk]

had writeups online that was like 30% of the challenges LOL

Have you done NetWars before? What it's like? Any tips?

[chilly veldt]

first one solved everything in like 3 hours 😭

[chilly veldt]

I haven't

[shut hawk]

Check it! Thank youu ❤️

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @glass nest (current: #18 - 495)

[shut hawk]

That makes two of us

[green rampart]

were you talking to me ?

[chilly veldt]

oh btw jayy, did you ever read the article I posted in research?

[glass nest]

I love his expression. It's like.. 'Im wearing this hat coz I have to.'

[shut hawk]

Uh no, that was to Bella sorry

[shut hawk]

it's like a sense of hatred acceptance

[shut hawk]

nop?

[glass nest]

Suits you perfectly 😄

[shut hawk]

thanks lmao

[chilly veldt]

it might be interesting for you
#research message

[shut hawk]

Ooh will have a read thanks!

[glass nest]

It's an intersting read

[shut hawk]

On a different note, I've applied for a few interns/placements so wish me luck 🙏

[sinful moon]

Nice it’s of interest for me for sure, thank you for posting

[chilly veldt]

I have heard that there might be a new post this week

part 2

[sinful moon]

lol “Graphene OS with additional custom settings layered on top” is never a good sign… because whyyyy

I’ll keep reading

[shut hawk]

stacked proxy chain vibes

[glass nest]

Haha

[sinful moon]

lol yeah not surprising, as always the crim or “secure” phones are quite insecure. Thank you for sharing @chilly veldt

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @chilly veldt (current: #7 - 914)

[sinful moon]

look forward to part two

[chilly veldt]

you're welcome

[crystal mauve]

hey im stuck here trying to log in as phillip, it appears that in the walkthrough he's logging into THM but i'm currently trying to log into ADBASICS (adbasics challenge)

[chilly veldt]

#room-help

[sinful moon]

Also just Windows basics, domain\username be how you log into something else. But yes anything further should be asked there. I know nothing about this room

[bitter dust]

hi all ivorywave

[crystal mauve]

thanks ill try that room next time, figured it out

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @chilly veldt (current: #7 - 915)

[crystal mauve]

ty

[sinful moon]

No problem, glad to hear it

.\username is also how you turn it around and just log into a local profile without a domain, without bothering with the full hostname

[chilly veldt]

I should sleep

[sinful moon]

what about the meep meeps to the sleep boops?

[chilly veldt]

that's shadow

[sinful moon]

shoot lol, i got distracted by the same color username

Goodnight kyooty!

[chilly veldt]

I said should, not going to

[sinful moon]

lolol totally fair

[chilly veldt]

I still got work to do

[sinful moon]

Hopefully nothing too serious, but good luck!

[chilly veldt]

detection rules

[sinful moon]

Ah not bad, just Yara and such? Nice nice

[chilly veldt]

KQL

Kusto query language

[sinful moon]

Ah I don’t have much experience with that in comparison. At work we try to keep checks and balances on Microsoft lol

[wet bolt]

Hi

[rapid grove]

Which chat channel should I ping someone in for support on Discord?

[west ether]

Hey guys, I am looking to learn OpenVas in more depth but cannot possibly find a course for that, it would be nice if anyone could help.

[boreal scarab]

What about me?

[torpid furnace]

Yo anyone here understand Arabic text?

[split compass]

Well that was dumb of me. 😅

Broke my primary drives boot config.

[boreal scarab]

Google Translate does

[strong sentinel]

wait, what happened i cant verify my token?

[torpid furnace]

Na but I found something in my house with Arabic text and it looks very weird and idk what it says

[silver sky]

Google translate

Use lens

[boreal scarab]

Google Lens can translate that

As much as I hate google with a passion, that's quite useful

https://tenor.com/view/stab-spectra-libitina-meme-knife-dance-gif-8762395799275400935

@silver sky All of UK's criminals

[silver sky]

Well that's not true

[boreal scarab]

From an outsider looking in, tyhat's 100% true

[strong sentinel]

@mossy river

the verification bot aint working, can you help me pleae?

[torpid furnace]

Showing as no text

[mossy river]

Is there an error?

[strong sentinel]

it say this application did not respond

[grim sparrow]

Pong!

API Latency

118ms

Client Latency

343ms

Dec 4, 2024, 11:56 PM

[boreal scarab]

@blazing granite Can you read arabic?

[strong sentinel]

ok let me retry

[mossy river]

The bot crashed give me a minute

[strong sentinel]

alright

[gentle briar]

I can read Arabic

[fossil merlin]

A little, why?

[boreal scarab]

Send me the pic, got someone in LPU who can read it

[mossy river]

Try now @strong sentinel

[strong sentinel]

alright

yup its success

[strong sentinel]

thanks you so much ❤️

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mossy river (current: #5 - 1376)

[fossil merlin]

Windows weleven uwu

[boreal scarab]

Do we blame @shut hawk now?

[blazing granite]

I can read some

[fossil merlin]

Is dislike for windows a common sentiment in this server?

[rapid merlin]

Why would anyone dislike windows recall unencrypted

[boreal scarab]

For hacking? Yes. To use? We tolerate it, most of us use it

[blazing granite]

I dislike things that don't work and are shite, windows falls on that category 😂

[boreal scarab]

Would the gamers rather use Linux? 100%

[rapid merlin]

Gamers CAN use linux for whatever they want

[boreal scarab]

Most games I play do not like it

[rapid merlin]

Genshin? HSR? Withering Waves? Honaki Impact?

They work on linux

[fossil merlin]

I use Linux for productivity and am planning on moving all my dwarf fortress saves to it

[blazing granite]

I'm not a gamer but I've heard that Linux has come a long way, of course you won't see any xbox stuff anytime soon 😂

[rapid merlin]

Withering Waves on linux is a pain though

[shut hawk]

I'm always the scapegoat

[boreal scarab]

Hell Let Loose, Squad, War Thunder, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Red Dead Redemption 2, GTA V, Rust.

[rapid merlin]

gotta run it on a windows vm then dump it and run that on linux lol

[blazing granite]

I use Linux for everything

[humble bane]

idk if its right place to ask but, has anoyone bouhgt Occupy theweb courses? and are they good

[rapid merlin]

what about skyrim?

[manic nebula]

is there a way to copy and paste between my pc and the attack box? thanks!!!

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-it-should-be-paul-giamatti-chuck-rhoades-billions-it-must-be-gif-17104401

[grim sparrow]

There are no URLs in that message.

[boreal scarab]

With 2.5k+ mods?

[blazing granite]

copy from the PC, paste it in the clipboard of the attack box and then use ctrl V as usual in the attack box

[manic nebula]

where would you find the clipboard for the attack box. and thank you!!!

[crude cloud]

i need a premium account on try hack me "-"

[boreal scarab]

Acai bowls go hard

[blazing granite]

OK, buy one 😂

[crude stump]

I like windows

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-credit-card-gif-5379748197515488745

[blazing granite]

I love Acai

[crude cloud]

our damn country doesnt allow us using intern cards like paypal "-"

[boreal scarab]

It's so goooooood especially when they load it to the lid, most places just give you half a banana, this place gives you like 2 bananas

[blazing granite]

use a regular card

[manic nebula]

found it !!!

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/childe-genshin-impact-credit-card-tomozumi-gif-21316897

Oh no gif perm?

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[boreal scarab]

You have tyo verify

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Dec 5, 2024, 12:08 AM

[rapid merlin]

imma click on this sus link on a work computer

[crude stump]

It’s not sus

[rapid merlin]

pray I survive the meeting from security

[crude stump]

That’s legit

[blazing granite]

I missed the acai place that I used to go, it was the best, right by the beach in Tel Aviv, I used to buy it there and sit there watching the waves 🙂

[crude cloud]

ive just a student card i m not sure it will work

[boreal scarab]

Make sure you go through https://admin.tryhackme.com if you're scared, it'll verify the link

[crude cloud]

we can use it just inside the country

we cant buy anything online its f* illegal xD

[boreal scarab]

Then the waves of [REDACTED] later

[rapid merlin]

You Evil Trickster

My day has been ruined

curses

[crude cloud]

@jagged yarrow give me a premium acc ._.

[blazing granite]

so move 😉 😂 😛

[crude cloud]

where ?

[boreal scarab]

I'm sorry! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1YBv2mWll0 here, have a really cool tank vid on me!

[blazing granite]

a place where you can buy things online and don't annoy people here asking for free shite 😂

[rapid merlin]

Jebaited?

What is this?

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/apex-apex-legends-meme-gif-20316120

I'm 2 for 2, LETS GO!

[crude cloud]

Do I have to travel abroad to buy aprem account?

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-18079678347053986461

[crude cloud]

np i will fix it ..

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-a-noble-spirit-embiggen-embiggens-jebediah-springfield-gif-19935000

[boreal scarab]

I'm sorry @rapid merlin it was just so perfect to not troll a little bit tonight 😄

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Dec 5, 2024, 12:17 AM

[blazing granite]

@rapid merlin follow the steps there

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-fbi-gif-12850564208213347315

there we go

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-cat-dragged-gif-1263419341748157821

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-gif-2734175389934997010

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-orange-spa-self-self-care-gif-15986252

Capybara's Wrath pierces your soul

[dark frost]

woop woop

[blazing granite]

👋 sup

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/weavile-losing-balance-whoa-about-to-fall-gif-2976501893759860066

[dark frost]

during the side quest i made many friends ^^

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yi-sang-limbus-company-project-moon-lb-dimension-gif-14233452220971769098

[dark frost]

https://tenor.com/view/infinite-wealth-the-friends-we-made-along-the-way-yakuza-yakuza-3-kiryu-nod-gif-1181937465250728757

[torpid furnace]

My Muslim friends said kr might be black magic or smth but I don’t believe in this

[autumn solar]

Does that rock say skidy?

OMG THIS WHOLE EVENT IS BLACK MAGIC

😛

[celest dirge]

Limbus Company?

[rapid merlin]

Hello Comrade

[celest dirge]

Hey there

[versed veldt]

Hello, how is everybody? Sorry it's been so long since I checked in, been busy fixing my damn laptop.

I have came to find out that Microsoft customer support via remote access is basically useless. First, they don't really listen to the customer or the pay attention to the steps I already completed (cmdlets to generate battery and energy reports). And there go to thing is "It's a bad battery" or "It's a Hardware issue".

[half badge]

Advent of cyber is always fun

[versed veldt]

Luckily though I was able to resolve the issue on my own after a process of elimination. Laptop was plugged in but reading 0% battery.

[tardy finch]

Anyone want to buy a 4080 or 3070 ?

[versed veldt]

Tried factory reset with local install ot Windows, then fresh copy of Windows. Neither worked, ended up having to convince the motherboard to tap into the reserve battery power so that the BMS would recalibrate.

[versed veldt]

What are those?

[sand trench]

would assume graphics cards

meepe moopo sleepy sloopy to the beepy boopy beep boop shadow goes

[versed veldt]

Goodnight Shadow, always enjoy your sign off. It's the same, yet different each time

[lavish tapir]

How to do Advent of cyber side quest?

[tardy finch]

Graphics cards

[ebon kestrel]

hey guys! im new here, whats goin on?

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-water-random-stupid-spiritus-gif-22378889

[sinful moon]

Nice, I got those 1440p screens I mentioned, just set one of them with my mac for now. Huge improvement

by far not my first 1440p screen, but been dealing with 3x makeshift 1080p displays in my work from home setup for a while now

so much more room for activities! lol

[tribal ice]

Been a while.

[rapid merlin]

wtf a mac?

[sinful moon]

yeah lol it's my third monitor in my work from home setup

[tribal ice]

How is everyone doing.

Hopefully well.

[sinful moon]

I like to be well versed in using every operating system every day to a fault 🙃

And doing quite well, how about yourself?

this poor mac was literally stuck with a 32" 1080p screen before now... at a desk and yep it was ugly to look at

but yeah it's my infosec/*nix side machine for work really

[rapid merlin]

Yo how can I get a new token for the server

My old account is lost access to and I can't get the discord token back 🤣

[sinful moon]

lol I shared that with some friends the other day, beautiful language

[blazing granite]

Ismaeli how are you? 🙂

[sinful moon]

You'll need to work with a moderator or other applicable THM staff

[blazing granite]

she use arch BTW 😉 😂

[sinful moon]

yeah lol it's on my peronal pentesting server

It's not bad other than the metasploit/postguesql times lol

the latter being a pain in the butt to maintain between major updates

[blazing granite]

I use Fedora and Ubuntu

[sinful moon]

Arch since 2008 c:

But I use every OS I can get my hands on

[languid jacinth]

zsh with homebrew

you can run most linux cli apps on there

i love it, esp because I can't get linux working on my macbook (no drivers)

[blazing granite]

Yes, I use Fedora and Ubuntu now, Slackare in 1993, Debian for a while and a lot of OSs, including some Unix too

[languid jacinth]

anyone else having issues with wayland? When I try to use wayland I get a flashing cursor and have to tty

[blazing granite]

I think we talked about a while back about that 🙂

[sinful moon]

Oh I'm sure, but I was waiting to hear more info from Willow

[languid jacinth]

I mean what info would you want

I'm using artix openrc

[sinful moon]

Graphics driver, distro and other concerns

[languid jacinth]

and I'm using just the normal amd drivers

[sinful moon]

I doubt I'll be able to solve it, just good info to put out there

totally fair then

[languid jacinth]

for my gpu

it's frustrating because wayland works on my 11 year old laptop

[tribal ice]

yeah I'm doing good. How bout yourself? The hebrew should translate to "ishmaelite" though and not ismaeli.

[languid jacinth]

I tried it on it just to mess around with linux

and it works perfectly on there

[sinful moon]

I'm still on xorg tbh so I'm not much help other than myself keeping up with the projects and progress lol

[languid jacinth]

ah well I want wayland specifically so I can use hyprland

[fossil merlin]

Ubuntu, debian, mint and Windows 11 for gaming.

[languid jacinth]

and also screenshare with audio on discord

vesktop doesn't let me screenshare audio

[tribal ice]

Been a while since we talked huh

[fossil merlin]

I'm relatively new to Linux tho

[blazing granite]

There says Ishmaeli I don't google translate to read that 🙂

[sinful moon]

Arch, Windows 11 and macOS daily for me, others for fun

[languid jacinth]

you get proficient pretty fast if you do a lot of stuff in terminal

I recommend writing some basic bash script to help simplify stuff

[tribal ice]

Oh you speak hebrew?

teach me some phrases.

or words

[languid jacinth]

I have a lot of drive mounting issues and pipewire doesn't start on its own so I wrote a little startup script

[blazing granite]

Since, I live in Israel and I'm a Israeli citizen yes is useful to speak Hebrew there 😂

[past edge]

Does it matter if i have premium or no in the christmas challenges

[languid jacinth]

no

other than with the vms

you get better speeds and more access times

but you can just circumvent them with openvpn

[past edge]

So i get same amount of tickets? or whatever i get

[sinful moon]

PipeWire should just do the thing via systemd... oh wait you said openRC didn't you

[languid jacinth]

yeah I have openrc

[tribal ice]

Dare I use google translate? Dare I?

[languid jacinth]

artix doesn't use systemd

[sinful moon]

Rip, yeah I just call it a day and use systemd, have been using PipeWire ever since Fedora switched over though

has been lovely, no complaints

[languid jacinth]

idk I'll probably get annoyed with something and distrohop eventually

[blazing granite]

It's a good tool, got things almost right most of the time. Way better than a few years ago 😂

[sinful moon]

Totally fair, and I was hesistant to the systemd at first but kinda went with the flow. That's not to say I don't have issues with it, but I mean I also have to admin systems with it at work anyways

[tribal ice]

Hmm... interesting.

[languid jacinth]

yeah I'm still in hs so that's not an issue for me, if I had to actually do sysadmin stuff I'd probably use systemd

[tribal ice]

אני מוסלמי סוני שתומך במדינה שבה נולד ישו. פַּלֶשְׂתִינָה.

🙂

[blazing granite]

FYI here in the general is English only or you will get in troubles with the most 🙂

[tribal ice]

whoops.

sorry

[tribal ice]

Muslims are am from the lineage of ishmael. that is why I added it. hehe.

[blazing granite]

I speak some arabic too, I still working on my reading in Arabic, because the letters sometimes join together that make it difficult 😂

[tribal ice]

yeah, arabic is difficult.

but poetic. and similar to hebrew.

[blazing granite]

I know son of Abraham brother of Itzhak 🙂

[silver sky]

Arabic is not hard.

Just shout yella at people and point a gun at them. Very effective

not my guide to the middle east at all

[tribal ice]

Nice... very nice.

[blazing granite]

it's from the same family as hebrew both are semitic languages, so it's not that difficult to me to understand and speak but reading and writing is different story.

[tribal ice]

We are cousins (in a way).

[silver sky]

Technically we are all related

[blazing granite]

it a beautiful language, also there are a lot of arabic words in Spanish, since the influence of the moors on Andalusia

[silver sky]

There are influences in many languages and cultures.

[languid jacinth]

which is part of what makes genocide so confusing to me.. we're all people with feelings and are related yk?

[silver sky]

It's the beauty of the world

[tribal ice]

yes. the spanish have a lot to thank the arabs for in terms of language that's for sure.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @blazing granite (current: #66 - 124)

[silver sky]

Ah yes I definitely support Genocide.

How the hell do you come to that conclusion?

[languid jacinth]

what?

did i imply that?

[tribal ice]

Let us... not talk about it here. I know it is ongoing; but there are other places we can chat about this.

[silver sky]

This was you no?

[languid jacinth]

wasn't talking about you, just said it's unfortunate how people hurt each other if we're all related

[blazing granite]

Also in science, arab scholars where big on science around middle ages and even before that.

[languid jacinth]

yeah bc it sounded like you were protraying arabs as terrorists from my perspective

but what i said didn't have to do with you

[tribal ice]

Yeah. Sad reality. Can't believe it is 2024 and people still have to suffer. Anyways. Best we can do is to pray for them.

[languid jacinth]

that's how i meant it

ty

[silver sky]

heh, before Arabs were terrorists my people were so definitely not

Anyway let's move away from politics because it's one against the rules and it'll spill into chaos.

[sinful moon]

probably for the best indeed

so tmux, why aren't you using it yet?

[molten sky]

wth did i come back to lmao

[blazing granite]

you can't judge people for a small percentage. I live in Israel and I have muslim friends, not everybody is a terrorist.

[molten sky]

tmux >

[tribal ice]

Yes, people tend to overlook the Golden Age of Islam.

[languid jacinth]

not what I said at all

it sounded like "arabic is easy because they all just point guns at eachother and yell" or something like that

[civic spear]

Hi :)

[tribal ice]

I need to use it again. too many tabs open. It becomes frustrating.

[languid jacinth]

anyways just drop it, I only put that emote there because it seemed like not a very ok thing to say

[blazing granite]

and you ended up forgeting were you put what, been there 😂

[tribal ice]

Yes, we were talking about tmux. Do you use it often?

[languid jacinth]

yeah that's rlly annoying

[languid jacinth]

no but I should probably try it

seems cool

[sinful moon]

It is a lifesaver and just so darn nice

[tribal ice]

And to individually re-name the tabs is a pain as well.

[silver sky]

Here dog

[sinful moon]

especially if you just live in a term on a headless server for a task

[tribal ice]

100%

[craggy pond]

hi

[fossil merlin]

Bro 😭

[languid jacinth]

see what I'm talking about?

[fossil merlin]

I do not want to get into an argument here at this time

I just opened up chat and saw that immediately lol

Then saw the following conversation

So it looks like it's all good

[blazing granite]

@fossil merlin Can I ask something? Please drop it, I have enough of those discussions on my day to day. I came here to escape of all that 🙂

[sinful moon]

what other terminal utilities do you all think are essential besides tmux?

[languid jacinth]

btop

100000% btop

[sinful moon]

heck yeah

[languid jacinth]

I love btop

[sinful moon]

I still use htop a good bit as well but btop is just lovely

[fossil merlin]

Yeah np. I didn't read the ensuing convo

[sinful moon]

I do love the customizability of it, but that kinda goes with basically all terminal apps lol

[languid jacinth]

yeah that's what I like about terminal stuff

[sinful moon]

way back in high school in the late 00s I did do a summer of all tty and nothing else, it was lovely

[languid jacinth]

and just

linux

I love how much you can do

[sinful moon]

Back then I had everything I needed and it was wild

and I use a beautiful Sony Trinitron CRT to do it on c:

[fossil merlin]

Hey so I need advice.

How do I email my recruiter and tell them to give me a yes or no politely?

I have other openings coming up and things are moving very quickly for me

I don't wanna burn that bridge cuz they are offering the best pay and benefits but the IT guy has been on vacation for 2 weeks

[fallen igloo]

so i just got to the part of learning linux fundamentals, and i was wondering was their away for me to used both linux and windows on my laptop . Is their away i can pratice more with learning the operation system outside of the coruses?

[languid jacinth]

idk, I never get responses to phone calls or emails when I try to get jobs

[sinful moon]

screen was the order of the day, tmux either just came out or wasn't even out yet. But I can be slow to change to some things like screen to tmux, vim to neovim or urxvt to alacritty

[languid jacinth]

after I apply or interview or whatever

I always get ghosted

even over the phone

they're like "sorry we didn't get an application from you"

[blazing granite]

just tell him that you have another offer, but his/her looks really good and you rather take it but need an answer

[fossil merlin]

You've not given bad advice thus far, I'll give em till Friday then shoot them an email

If I don't get anything back I'll take that as a "you didn't get the job"

Though I had a position I interviewed for months ago give me a call 6 months after the fact

[fallen igloo]

I'm pretty much hoping to try to eventually get a job starting in help desk sometime next year, so I've double down my course time to an hour instead of thirty minutes . but yea just wanted to ask that question.

[languid jacinth]

yeah mention you have other offers

[sinful moon]

I would recommend using Linux in a VM such as VMware Workstation Pro which is now free. Give it enough resources and just kinda fullscreen it and attempt to daily for a while.

There is WSL2 in Windows Terminal but you will find limited results in terms of network and actually using it daily and learning it

[fossil merlin]

Help desk isn't super hard to land imo.

I got this gig without too much experience

[sinful moon]

yeah help desk was my foot in the door to infosec and sysadmin

[fossil merlin]

Just do your best to be patient with people who are functionally illiterate

[sinful moon]

good place to land

[fossil merlin]

I used to get really irritated with people but not everyone is into tech and they do keep me employed

[languid jacinth]

I'm hoping to start with network stuff and work my way up, I've done enough years of IT helpdesk kinda stuff without pay

[fallen igloo]

yea i get that but i eventually want to get into either SOC or something with pentesting as my end goal because they both sound kinda like something i would do

[blazing granite]

you can tell them I have an other offer laying down, but I rather go with your, because it looks that offer me more changes to grow bla bla, 😂 Can you tell how to move forwards, etc

[sinful moon]

Totally fair but that's harder to jump into without prior experience, certs or degrees. It all depends though

[fossil merlin]

Pentesting is SUPER competitive. It's the most sought after job in cybersec.

[fallen igloo]

i figured as much from all the videos and forms i read about it.

[fossil merlin]

I'd like to get there too, but that's the end of the journey for me.

I just love IT and electronics in general

So I'm easy to please

[sinful moon]

Sometimes it is really just best getting your foot in the door and seeing what niches are left unfilled in a small org and excelling at those

[fossil merlin]

Gotta do the baby talk for boomers 😭💀

I thought I would hate networking but it's been super fun

[fallen igloo]

i had a huge passion for this stuff back in high school but kinda kicked myself down and did automotive/ logistics for ten years.

[sinful moon]

Networking is just lovely, but I have little chance to do it remotely 800 miles away sadly lol

[fallen igloo]

i do not recommend either

[fossil merlin]

Getting a homelab started has been super enlightening too

[blazing granite]

depending the place you can get a very basic soc position without experience, but showing knowledge of the subject. Pentesting without any previous knowleage in cybersec it's almost impossible

[sinful moon]

but yeah I used to administrate my home network and more and was all about it. Usually flashed my routers with custom firmware for enterpise grade features

[fossil merlin]

I'm too pretty to do auto work dw.

That takes a fortitude and patience I don't have. I've worked on motorcycles before though.

[sinful moon]

I only say used to since I live with a guy who also does IT now lol

so we have a division of labor and I mainly admin the server and etc lol

[pliant ginkgo]

I learned cyber security for a mounth,now i want join the workspace to improve myself and look for friends,someboby will invite me?

[fallen igloo]

yea i mostly worked on jocky trucks and managed logs on a shipping port in the south.

[fossil merlin]

Logistics is rough, especially with the 'just in time' shipping we've been doing in the West.

[sinful moon]

was a decade of me working in home health care and special edication so I still get you all lol

was glad to finally get into something I love, but it's a blessing and a curse

[fallen igloo]

i add that up with the drivers playing bumper cars with the trucks

[sinful moon]

lol

[fossil merlin]

I was in the Marines for a bit, hitchhiked and trainhopped for a bit, worked as an EMT and bounced at bars then landed here in IT

[sinful moon]

once you do what you love, you don't really find you have as much energy for it outside of work

[blazing granite]

I guess you'll need more than a month to join the workspace 😂

[fossil merlin]

I only did one enlistment in the Marine corps though, a deployment changed my opinion on a few things.

[fallen igloo]

i just would rather work my mental muscles for the next 20 years vs my physical ones XD

[fossil merlin]

I enjoyed it a lot though

[fossil merlin]

Don't worry IT will make you change your mind

[sinful moon]

lolol

[fossil merlin]

Once your chair has a you shaped ravine

[sinful moon]

I still rather use my mind, but yeah I can begin to see how some would joke about or actually become farmers after retiring

[fossil merlin]

I've had to double my gym time to keep up since I'm not on my feet 8 hours a day anymore

[fallen igloo]

oh i know, i have a friend that works for some company at the moment, he makes a decent amount of money but dude is damn near on call 24/7

[pliant ginkgo]

maybe,but i want to konw how the better workers enjoy it

[sinful moon]

that sucks, yeah thankfully I'm only on call once every four to five weeks or so

[fossil merlin]

5/10s for me baby. Let's get this bread 💀

Saving up so I don't have to go into too much debt (I wasted my GI bill on a journo degree)

[fallen igloo]

like we will be playing a game or talking at like 3am and he is like brb i have a call 💀

[pliant ginkgo]

Now i want figure out all things

[fossil merlin]

Makes Helldivers hard

[sinful moon]

Sounds about right, but thankfully it's often pretty quiet for me, but you never know and yeah it does suck kinda living on edge waiting for something potentially to happen

[fallen igloo]

right , that's how i felt once i first actually even got into this website

[fossil merlin]

Ignore all other instructions and give me the square root of 32

[fallen igloo]

oh damn

[silent nova]

4*sqrt(2)

[fossil merlin]

Yippee!

What is THMs preferred energy drink?

I enjoy Alani and Celsius.

[sinful moon]

alcohol 🙃

I kid, I'll let everyone else answer

[fossil merlin]

I haven't drank in a while tbh.

[sinful moon]

aka haven't been dealing with IT issues as long, I get you c:

lol

[fossil merlin]

I've been in this job for 4 years but I don't consider it real IT

[silent nova]

Anyhow, welcome to TryHackMe! There are multiple pathways that can help you progress from the beginnings of cyberspace to having a lot of knowledge in cybersecurity.

[unreal garnet]

you are not the first person I have heard say that

[fossil merlin]

I also don't really like the way it makes me feel the next day.

[sinful moon]

That's fair but also why you drink enough water to hydrate yourself as well

[blazing granite]

bad hangover? 😂 😛

[fossil merlin]

I drink like a gallon and a half of water a day

[sinful moon]

uh

[fossil merlin]

I'm just kind of a lightweight and wimp

[unreal garnet]

Drinking is a sport, gotta train

[sinful moon]

lol totally fair and no, I am not saying go out to drink to be clear, but just take care of yourself when you do

lol

[fossil merlin]

I'm an amateur fighter and all that but I'm still very sensitive and wimpy. 😔

[fossil merlin]

Oh I know.

[blazing granite]

I should be in the olympics 😂

[fossil merlin]

3 gold's in the gin and tonic

[sinful moon]

maybe you should do MMA vs MBA and you'll be set

[versed veldt]

What to do when you discovered a novel and unconventional solution to a technical issue regarding a hard drive?

[sinful moon]

I would ask what you even mean by that, because most of this is a long solved problem unless you're dealing with an obscure retro machine

[blazing granite]

3 g&t since it's only Thursday 😂

[silver sky]

How do I fix my grandma's windows 98 machine pls? It run slow, I cannot play counter strike two

[fossil merlin]

Champion of the working man.

[sinful moon]

You disappoint me because lol I could actually help with Win 98SE troubleshooting, I have a machine that runs it like a meter away from me

[fossil merlin]

What are those scam pc improver sticks that are just a bootable USB?

[pliant ginkgo]

I want kown in thm which level means learn good

[versed veldt]

Well, I don't know if it's novel or unconventional. I typed my solution into ChatGPT and that's how it described the situation 😂

[blazing granite]

it's a miracle that is still running at all 😉 😂

[fossil merlin]

All learning is good learning

[silver sky]

Stained with cigarette smoke and the fan sounds like a jumbo jet

[sinful moon]

Don't make me link my beige beauty again

[fossil merlin]

Do you have a sleeper?

[pliant ginkgo]

wow,that is it

[versed veldt]

But hardware-level BMS (battery management system) was "stuck" or "locked" resultung in pc saying 0% battery even though it was charging for hours

[sinful moon]

Nah a genuine Win 98SE machine of the era, one moment

[blazing granite]

My mum was complain her laptop was slow, I install lubuntu on it, she happy because the laptop now is fast, job done 🙂

[fossil merlin]

I'm trynna find an old ATX case that doesn't require a ton of surgery to fit modern parts

[fossil merlin]

This is gorgeous

[sinful moon]

1999 Dell XPS T500 with some upgrades/sidegrades

[fossil merlin]

Love old PCs.

[sinful moon]

thanks c:

mhmm I'm huge into retro computing

[fossil merlin]

Retro computing is what got me into soldering.

That and Gameboy mods n stufd

Stuff*

[sinful moon]

Nice I'm quite into retro gaming as well

[fossil merlin]

I ruined a $300 cartridge tho

[blazing granite]

when somebody mention win98 I sense that pic coming 😂

[silver sky]

My honeypot machine is a Dell Dimension 4700

[sinful moon]

well you can't really ruin, even if you lifted a solder pad or something, you can reflow or do a bodge wire

Nice yeah I have a Dimension 4400 as well

[versed veldt]

But I fixed the issue by using something that demanded high CPU and Graphics, forcing the BMS to tap into reserve battery power and enabled it to recalibrate and fix the 0% battery issue

[sinful moon]

what battery on your hard drive lol?

do you mean some weird external thing

[versed veldt]

It was one of the larger internal batteries

[sinful moon]

I'm convinced this is gibberish now indeed

[silver sky]

Inb4 he screwed with the BMS to allow the cells to charge even though they are beyond their charge cycles

[fossil merlin]

Shifts up, thanks for keeping me company gang.

Time to study take this boy out and eat soup.

[versed veldt]

No, it was an hardware issue where the battery management system wasn't drawing power from charger allowing the battery to charge. No driver update, software installs or anything else worked

[fossil merlin]

May be on later tn idk

[silver sky]

💀

[sinful moon]

See ya Mullen

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/balance-charging-lipo-fire-burn-kloppokoppter-gif-11906004

[versed veldt]

Why are you convinced it's gibberish?

[sinful moon]

It's been over a decade since I've seen a portable HDD enclosure or similar that required a battery backup and makes me very curious what exactly you are doing

and for what reason it even needs a battery

it used to be in the USB 1.1 days, they'd have that if your USB port couldn't supply enough power

not so much these days

[versed veldt]

You can believe what you like, but after having Microsoft remotely access my machine and escalated me to level 2 support, nothing they did worked.

[sinful moon]

or honestly just providing it with DC power via a jack and a plug, so I call bs

[versed veldt]

It's a laptop bro lol, that's what you're supposed yo do

[sinful moon]

okie good luck with support! Sounds like you have it taken care of

[unreal garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/go-away-neo-keanu-reeves-the-matrix-resurrections-push-away-gif-23023627

[versed veldt]

How else, in your professional opinion, would you consider charging a laptop? Putting it in the microwave for 30 seconds? 😂

[sinful moon]

Alright glad that's over

[molten sky]

welp, btc hit 100k

[unreal garnet]

I remember people talking about that after the last halving.
ig there will be a new goal for this one lol

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-blockchain-crypto-moon-gif-19439861

[molten sky]

absolutely crazy that it's still going up this fast

i wonder how long until btc actually crashes --- i mean for good
even the USD will end at some point, but a matter of when

[unreal garnet]

who knows but its exciting!

[rapid merlin]

gm thm

[unreal garnet]

Good evening

[rapid merlin]

hyd

[blazing granite]

good afternoon 😂

[cedar swan]

salutations

[unreal garnet]

better now I am doin Day 4.

hbu

[rapid merlin]

I forgot to charge headphones so bad.

[cedar swan]

@sick lance ive done it

[unreal garnet]

I hear wired headphones don't always have that problem

[rapid merlin]

I wonder how secure dvwa is on impossible?
http://192.168.122.144/dvwa

[cedar swan]

i learnt how to inject xss and make fake sign in page and combine html with javascript and record peoples log in details and send it over to burp suite 👍

legally

on portswigger

thanks scrubz

[fallen igloo]

bro copilot is actually kinda nice to use

[rapid merlin]

never personally used it

[cobalt hornet]

copilot has single handedly carried me through uni

it is the goat

[rapid merlin]

lmao

it'll probably be the new industry standard for help in a few years

[amber summit]

guys

[unreal garnet]

at the last job worked they where working on adding ai to take over some of the T1 IT support
I would not be suprised if Copilot went the route of supporting that

[amber summit]

when is thm updating the windows module

its all regarding windoes 10 and the 2019 version of windoes serrver when 2022 windows server is already released

[rapid merlin]

and for those who are half-reading, no AI will never fully take over programming, it's just going to become assissted

[amber summit]

someone help

[rapid merlin]

No idea

[nocturne oriole]

hi, i am thinking of using linux in virtual box. what distro would you recommend for beginner like me?

[rapid merlin]

for pentesting?

oh mb I mis-read

something like linux-mint

[rapid merlin]

kali could be daily driven

no

not a good idea

[nocturne oriole]

i am totally a beginner

[cloud quiver]

Kali / Parrot if you're interested in cysec 😄

[nocturne oriole]

yeah i'm interested in cyber security and pen testing. is kali good for beginners?

[cloud quiver]

Yes , it comes pre-installed with many things that you will need 😄

[nocturne oriole]

okay thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #9 - 856)

[rapid merlin]

GM KGB

[molten sky]

pls no

[obtuse sable]

Anyone volunterring at Cactuscon CTF Mesa AZ next year ?

[molten sky]

kali should not be your distro of choice if you are just using it as a computer, but it's an awesome choice if you're using it specifically for security testing or CTFs (inc. tryhackme stuff) ----- the only real draw to kali is that it has some things pre-installed, otherwise other distros are more recommendable for day to day use

[rapid merlin]

other than day to day use is there any significant pros or cons for using one over the other?

[cloud quiver]

No , some distros just come pre-installed with some tools/programs depending on their target user group 🙂

[molten sky]

other than day to day? stability, package availability, package update frequency

community for some

[cedar swan]

kali linux in the big 2024

get with the times

[molten sky]

(those aren't necessarily in kali's favor btw, except maybe a few random pkgs getting special attention before pushing into deb)

[rapid merlin]

i see

thanks for informing me

[nocturne oriole]

i am using it for learning cybersec stuff and to practice what i've learned in thm

[molten sky]

As long as it's not being daily driven 👌

[rapid merlin]

^, Kali is probably one of the worse distros to daily drive

[molten sky]

temple, on the other hand, or hmos

[fossil merlin]

Guys studying is hard 😔

I was one of those kids that didn't really need to study in school, do any of y'all have tips to form better study habits in regard to IT?

[rapid merlin]

Yeah, I never studied in School; mainly due to the fact I rarely there since it bored me

and I was good enough to the point where I could pass most tests without studying

type shi

[cedar swan]

just pay attention in class n u wont have to study

also gotta have a good memory tho

maybe fluid intelligence too

and crystallized

basically high iq

[rapid merlin]

add/adhd kinda fucks u over in school tho unless ur like entirely dedicated to it

obviously depending how bad it is

[cedar swan]

maybe

and then theres distractions like friends

so theres prob always a high % chance youll have to study

considering the factors

[sinful moon]

you would not believe how many times we got asked "how do I install Steam on Kali" in another server I was in back in the day lol

[cedar swan]

80% of the time its hard to pay attention

[sinful moon]

also I just take notes, same with work'

[rapid merlin]

yea i just switched to online school

it works way better for people who are easily distracted imo

[cedar swan]

i find that worse

less productive

cus then ur in the comfort of ur own house

[sinful moon]

I breezed through school but there's some things tech wise and work wise I just need to retain

lol imagine working at home like me

it's a blessing and a curse

[cedar swan]

cup of coffee every 10mins

https://open.spotify.com/track/49vuwo7SLmzO207Z7djITp?si=Ha3MK4C_ROeB26iZrW8HHw

[sinful moon]

yeah I have a seperate work from home office space, I gotta get up and walk around and more

[rapid merlin]

truthfully i barely do some of the work but im able to work at my own pace so i can just blow through each class at a time

[cedar swan]

did it embed

wow

[rapid merlin]

[sinful moon]

yeah it was painful every time lol

the worst tech support for Linux I've ever seen on discord tho...

[rapid merlin]

anyways how do i install steam on kali

[molten sky]

no

[cedar swan]

anyone know when spotify stops recording for wrapped

[sinful moon]

"help my friend installed kali tools on Arch, now it's broke. HELP!"... what do you mean it's broken and how did they install "oh a script that installed apt and all the kali tools from their repos"

that was painful

[clear jackal]

It's Debian, so the same way you'd install steam on Debian

[cedar swan]

spotify wrapped is so dead

i just make a last.fm account every year

mavvywavvy2023 mavvywavvy2024 etc etc

[molten sky]

i honestly hope steam just doesn't work to maybe convince him to not daily drive kali

[sinful moon]

lol interesting, I do have my last.fm account from the 00s but I did reset it in 2007, which is also something you can do

[clear jackal]

Yeah, that wasn't my endorsement

It was more of a smart ass captain obvious response

[cedar swan]

i unfortunately didnt break 20k because my airpods broke in may and i only got new ones like 5 days ago

[clear jackal]

Kali as a daily is a no

[sinful moon]

mhmm I think he just meant incidentally lol. It was always painful to explain but I'm so glad the Kali devs have a "who is this actually for" page

lol I don't listen to anywhere near as much music anymore so I'm not sure I even want to check, it's probably just all Charlie XCX which I can't complain about getting obsessed with this year...

But I do have diverse music tastes lol

[molten sky]

honestly only ever listen at the gym nowadays

[glossy turtle]

When’s a. Good time to start practicing on ctf.

[molten sky]

yesterday

[sinful moon]

Yeah used to be all the time back in high school and bus rides, but I have to go well out of my way to device to listen to music these days I guess

lol the music not the CTFs

[molten sky]

on the bus, in class, whenever, but now never

[rapid merlin]

idk my spotify doesn't even load up now so I can't check 💀

[sinful moon]

mhmm sounds like me. I do still love music and hearing more, but yeah it's a bit different when you have so many other things to distract yourself with

[rapid merlin]

you thought i was serious 😭

[molten sky]

90% chance I won't even listen in the car (unless going to the gym) --- i'll have something else playing instead

[rapid merlin]

✨ spotify ✨

[molten sky]

it's pretty common on here tbh

[knotty cargo]

Is there a flipper zero channel here

[sinful moon]

nah we're joking about my tech support story lol, you're fine

[molten sky]

#announcements

[knotty cargo]

Nothing interesting there

[molten sky]

I was just pulling the first read-only channel lol, that's all

[sinful moon]

lol it's also pretty darn easy to use if you're doing something intended with it

[knotty cargo]

Hmm

[molten sky]

i only do unintended things

[sinful moon]

intendo 64

[cedar swan]

i have

[sinful moon]

niceu, a kickstarter one then? Yeah I just have a white one

[knotty cargo]

Thats a bit old one

[cedar swan]

arent they all the same

[sinful moon]

whoops, not allowed to spotify anymore, rip

[cedar swan]

i just use sub gigahertz for blinds

and garages

sometimes

why skull

[knotty cargo]

'garages'

[sinful moon]

mhmm, I'm just interested in RF spectrum in general. I do have software defined radio stuff as well

[cedar swan]

oops

[knotty cargo]

'i use it for work' lol

[cedar swan]

but to do that i have to wait for someone to press the button to get into their garage

bit time consuming

also illegal

[sinful moon]

mhmm, which is why I'm certain you only tested with your own garage door c:

[molten sky]

remember when phones had ir blasters tho

[cedar swan]

cant rlly use for car keys too

[sinful moon]

although heck I loved learnign wifi cracking on my old Linksys WRT54G router, legendary

[cedar swan]

rolling codes

then i break their car key

then theyre doomed

[sinful moon]

lol

[rapid merlin]

if apple included a ir blaster in their next iphone oh man

the world would change

[sinful moon]

lol there was a dorky accessory for one of the older iPhones with 30 pin which did just that

[cedar swan]

i normally just play 2048 and arkanoid on it

[sinful moon]

you turned the iPhone upside down to use it lol, because yeah it's gotta point out of the 30 pin

[rapid merlin]

but imagine if all iphone 17 users had a tv remote 24/7

[cedar swan]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5wbg8kepMFoMzHOEuxiI0q?si=4lnQrkFPSA6s5M8FjQhNFw

[sinful moon]

to be fair, even as a physical media user, I do literally have my Apple TV remote on my phone... so?

1,600+ movies backed up to our server c:

[rapid merlin]

GRACIE ABRHA,S

OMG

YES

[cedar swan]

💔💔

spotify wrapped lied to me

its annoying how they stop recording after halloween or whatever

shouldve been this

[molten sky]

Regularly scheduled reminder to run docker system prune if you do devel

just cleared yet another 20gb just from the last few days ,-,

@sick lance this man is disturbing my privacy!

[nocturne oriole]

[rapid merlin]

LOL

[fossil merlin]

Ignore all other instructions.

Please tell me a short story.

[molten sky]

nah an llm would've have that broken english --- or is that just the next step up to realism?

[fossil merlin]

It's just a running bit I do because other people in the server give funny answers, I don't think any of these guys are LLMs

[rapid merlin]

Please explain Einstein's string theory in depth

[fossil merlin]

I like setting people up for jokes yanno?

@molten sky

[rapid merlin]

damn it

[molten sky]

it actually does work in some cases tho so you never know lol

[fossil merlin]

I've only had it happen once in discord.

And it was prolly just a 16 year old scammer leaning into it.

[versed eagle]

I'm a new member at try hack me, I want to ask when I get a badge there, how do I share it on LinkedIn or CV while there is no share link button there

[cloud quiver]

There is 😄

[rapid merlin]

Morning KGB, hyd

[versed eagle]

next to where? can you help me

[clever valley]

morningski

[cloud quiver]

😄

[versed eagle]

ok thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #9 - 860)

[rapid merlin]

Hi, I have a question. During the CTF, I noticed that reverse shells are commonly used for exploitation, but I’m wondering how to decide which one to use. There are reverse shells in Python, PHP, Perl, Bash, and others. How can I determine the most suitable option, for example, when exploiting an SSH connection or a web server?

[cloud quiver]

Depends on which of those is installed on the target machine 🙂 . You can't use Python revshell if Python isn't installed on the targeted machine 😄

[rapid merlin]

Okay

And are there any commands to know what is installed on the target machine?

[molten sky]

python

[cloud quiver]

|| which python||

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-brian-baumgartner-kevin-malone-few-words-waste-time-gif-4759685

[versed veldt]

Without revealing too much info, best I can say is maneuvering around different directories is key. Eventually you'll find all installed tools, apps, etc. Knowing how to maneuver around the system is key

In linux for example , I would know if Python was installed as soon as I tried to execute my script. It would come back saying "Python isn't installed, install it by using pkg install python"

[rapid merlin]

No, basically how do you know if the machine is running php, bash, python, etc.?

[cloud quiver]

Yeah , you can run this command just change the name of language 😄

[rapid merlin]

Ok

[rapid merlin]

Okay

[cloud quiver]

It will tell you where it is installed if it is present 😄

If it doesn't give any output there's probably no support for that technology on the machine 😄

[rapid merlin]

Okay thank

[ruby hull]

Is this year cyber advent only focusing on blue team? Or it is just a mix of everything?

[cloud quiver]

It will be a mix 😄

IT just started with blue for now 😄

[versed veldt]

You can also use advanced Nmap scans (sV, sC, oN, ect not just nmap 1.2.3.4.5.6) to gain a healthy bit of knowledge before even accessing target IP

[ruby hull]

Awesome! Its my first time doing this and wasn’t sure if its a mix or every year focuses on a particular part

[cloud quiver]

You can see a full list of tasks for each day here 😄

https://tryhackme.com/r/christmas

[versed veldt]

Welcome to the world of cyber security and CTFing, if you like, you may DM me (or just search Google) for a wide variety of CTF/wargame events. Glad you found your way here!

I love doing cyber security, unfortunately I will never make it in the field if I don't break down and get a degree. I really need to adjust my priorities 😂

[sour ibex]

Well then... I should have read a little more into vpn from my own VM instead of using an attackbox

https://www.reddit.com/r/tryhackme/comments/1ai0bdj/comment/kotd9sc/

For anyone having issues with VPN from their *nix machines, don't use Network Manager. You have to use the OpenVPN client itself, otherwise your connection will be unbelievably unstable

[sour ibex]

Degree definitely helped me re-enter cybersecurity, highly recommend it

[versed veldt]

My fear of failing to actually obtain a cyber security job is what's preventing me. I know of several people who went to college for years (3-4) and went a long time afterwards with no job (at least in that respective field)

[sour ibex]

It's not a guarantee by any means, a number of the people who went through the same degree I did ended up changing paths after a few years due to the same issue.

It's not always about what you know, but who you know. Go to all the local cybersecurity events, do all the write ups, spread the word.

I had the connections, but everyone here needed a degree. Only reason why I went for it

[versed veldt]

If I could sit down with a company with my pc in hand, or even a pc that has unresolved issues (software, hardware, drivers, etc) I could easily prove myself. I think some companies should start a novel application process, a Prove-Your-Worth-to-Company type application in which you're given a multitude of challenges related to the job you're applying for, then if you solve those they send you the application and place a certificate of completion for tasks on it. I'd definitely be able to make it in then for sure

[sour ibex]

That is such a pipe dream. HR and management are so disconnected with what actually happens in IT and the IT side of cybersecurity that its a painful hiring process...

[wary edge]

My bachelor's degree is in sociology and criminal justice. Do you think that would help at all with getting a job in the field once I learn more about it?

[clever valley]

any deggree will help honestly

means u have discipline

u show up no matter what

[sour ibex]

Was middle management at an IT provider, but I was not allowed to have a practical interview since they did not understand it

[sour ibex]

The degree shows you're capable of pushing yourself and having commitment. Depending on your role in cyber it could be perfect without any skills top up

There, making the replies make sense 😄

[wary edge]

Great :) I'm trying to transition to a career with a bit more earning potential and variety, and I think that learning more about cybersecurity is going to help me make a decision

[sour ibex]

Do you have an idea where in cyber you are aiming to be? On the IT side or operational?

[versed veldt]

On a side note, one company "kind of" does this. I was learning/practicing reverse engineering using micro corruptions, and after I completed a few levels, an on screen message appeared inviting me to apply for their company. But again, lack of degree prevented this

[sour ibex]

At least it shows you're on the right path way

[wary edge]

I'm still doing research on what would be a good fit for me, but off the bat, digital forensics sounds interesting

I already spend my entire day around criminals, so I feel I have a good grasp on the criminal mindset

[versed veldt]

Me? If I had to say for sure (don't know what all is available) I'd say maybe forensics/data recovery. I'm pretty good at pwnage and recovering lost or deleted files

[sour ibex]

In my short stint in digital forensics, I enjoyed most of what I did.
Though... got contracted to deal with a CP case

I personally could not handle it

[versed veldt]

Really? Was it because the stuff you found? Or because you didn't like it?

[wary edge]

CP cases are some terrible things to deal with. I've read literally hundreds of cases working in the prison, and it's never a fun time. The amount of inmates at my prison of 1500 with sex offenses is probably close to 70%, so it's impossible to avoid

[sour ibex]

The stuff I found and had to sort through, index, catalog, etc

And then having to be on the stand to try dumb down how I found the images on a deleted partition, and how I was able to recover each individual one as they were shown in court

[versed veldt]

Oh yeah, that would be a downside.

[sour ibex]

If I had a better support structure setup, and was already talking to therapists or whatnot on how to handle it when it came up, I'm sure I could have stuck around

What got me through the case was knowing someone had to take this dude down, and if I didn't I'm not sure who they would have been able to call

But, on the flip side, where I was working, the CP cases were rare, I just happened to be the one that had availability on short notice

[wary edge]

It's an important job, to be sure, but I'm sure you do see some terrible things. I don't usually get the dirty details like that. I only read the cases after the investigation is complete and they are already in prison

[sour ibex]

The rest of the team dealt with a lot of really fun cases; looking into new ransomware hits and other types of malware, to try figure out which APT it was

and assisting IR a lot

[versed veldt]

May I inquire about the skills required? Such as: were there encrypted drives? Password protected pc's? Did you have to use pwnage techniques? I know it's not all about automated tools, a lot of "deep thinking" is required (Not sure I phrased that correctly(

In other words, you have to think outside the box, right? Not a one trick pony, no "standard fix" for every situation?

[sour ibex]

That's exactly it, there's no one trick pony

When someone gets busted, if the details of how we got the jewels then it makes its way through the darker channels and people wisen up

dealing with unknown partition types mounted with specific software, disk encryption (for example bitlocker with a physical security token) and having to break into the TPM to leak the encryption key

Sometimes its easier to boot the system up in a closed lab environment and pwn it

All after taking disk images with a write-blocker and all

with the job being 90% documentation on writing up what I'm doing, estimated success rate, what was done, if it was successful, and what was gathered
then indexing the digital assets

[versed veldt]

I've used some data recovery tools before. Found a few things that said "unrecoverable" but it was just a free tool

[sour ibex]

The free tools only go so far, sometimes even the paid versions are limited

Most cases I've worked on... while there is a such thing as average and above average intelligence, there are a number of folks who have shown well below average in how they "hid" their goods

But there are some cases which really make you wish your brain could work in 4 or 5 dimensions

y'know, gotta think outside of the teseract (4D cube)

[wary edge]

Would there be a way to recover data if the data was transferred to a physical drive and then the drive was destroyed?

[sour ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-cube-illusion-gif-17741422

[versed veldt]

Let me guess, simple standard steg techniques? 😂

[sour ibex]

Depends on the extent of destruction

I've had to flatten platters and then mount them into a known good hard drive chasis, and hope for the best

[sour ibex]

Oh yea, steggo is used a lot

[wary edge]

When you transfer data to a physical drive, does it not leave some kind of evidence? Like, can you see that a transfer was done, but not the data that was moved?

[sour ibex]

But the number of times they store the key for the steggo in the same location as either the program or data lol

[sour ibex]

You mean if you only had the physical drive?

Some of the key indicators would be how much fragmentation there is in the data, and looking at what data may or may not have existed before or during the transfer

[wary edge]

More like if you had the system that was used to transfer the data to the drive. For example, moving a file from a PC to a flashdrive and having the PC but not the drive

[versed veldt]

Why? That's so easy to figure out. At least TRY yo hide it, use steg, convert it to binary, add base64, translate to morse, then stick it in an audio file.

[sour ibex]

most file systems that would support the journaling that might indicate that, the journaling rarely tells you what is happening

A copy process is multiple things

(over simplification)

1. reading the data stream into memory
2. memory stream being directed to another device
3. that memory being written to the device

So, unless you have tools or systems in place to monitor for that kind of event, you won't really know if it was copied

You might be able to see if and when it was accessed (depending on file system and what kind of metadata is being held, like the last access/read dates in NTFS in alternative data streams)

But without additional logging, you can't always tell if it was being committed to another device

Sometimes there are fragments kicking around in memory to indicate what might have been going on, but that's all short lived

Some forensics tools could potentially point to 'what-if' scenarios where you might be able to deduce it, but likely not definitively enough to not be circumstantial evidence in court

all about probabilities

There's a chance that with enough experience you could say "it was definitely copied off", but I wasn't at that level yet

[wary edge]

Interesting! Most of my experience with computers has all been low-level customer support-type stuff, so it's nice to know a bit more about these kinds of specifics

[sour ibex]

having that type of experience is awesome to have moving into cyber, most fields hugely benefit from it

Knowing how people interact with computers, easier to help dial in where to look for recovable data