general

[sick lance]

And now you're just trolling, I'll ignore you 🙂

[rapid merlin]

hi i got muted

[worn thorn]

if you think so

[steel aspen]

Do people always crawl from rocks at this time?

[sick lance]

Yes.

[rapid merlin]

yeah im playing doom 2016 then playing eternal.. for the 3rd time

[steel aspen]

I swear every time I come onto the Discord at this time that's when the cavemen of socialising arrive

[sick lance]

I seen before you messaged xD

If you think something is going to offend somebody, you could always keep it to yourself, that way you won't offend anyone. 🙂

[steel aspen]

Very true but this chat been weird then lol

[heady nova]

Is there a free one? Like except AWS, Azure?

[wintry sluice]

can't offend anyone if you never say anything 🧠

[sick lance]

Not without limitations

[heady nova]

Are limitations bearable?

[steel aspen]

GPG an PGP is very confusing, I mean I know each one and the difference but why do that

[sick lance]

Depends on your use case, for me it wasn't, so I do everything on my host.

[sudden bridge]

i want to upload a room to tryhackme. can anyone please guide me a bit?
https://infosecwriteups.com/how-to-make-our-own-ctf-challenge-with-ease-6b15f76865b5 i used this for reference.
i used an ubuntu server v24 and set up everything for the challenge and then converted it to ova (and later saw v20 is the max allowed).

[wintry sluice]

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[heady nova]

I mean it's not for detonation so power shouldn't really matter unless it's so slow that it can't run a reverser tool

[sick lance]

I know, I was talking about static analysis.

[sudden bridge]

i have a mac m1 (and i made that server from my friend's pc). now i wont see him soon and i need to make the room asap. (tldr: compatibility issue arm vs amd)
can i prolly spawn an ec2 and do the work there and then upload that ec2 or something?

[heady nova]

Hmm yep, host it is. I already got a lab setup in my host, just can't bring it to work

[sudden bridge]

pweese anyone 🥹

[sick lance]

I'm surprised work isn't supplying you with an org laptop to do your job...

[heady nova]

Right? Apparently they never had an intern

So they couldn't set up anything

Told me to use my own resources

[sick lance]

💀

[heady nova]

But can't byod

[chilly veldt]

I just calculated, it's going to take 32 hours to post all 224k entries into a database

[wintry sluice]

gah, this heat

[mossy river]

it's wonderful innit

[shut hawk]

no

[tired peak]

how hot is the UK jabs?

[wintry sluice]

nearly 30C!!!

[tired peak]

oh 81F, y'all must be melting

[errant fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-nope-gif-21451747

[shut hawk]

im dying

[tired peak]

thats as hot as it is here in SoCal

[errant fossil]

its not that bad

[sick lance]

Nice here.

[lavish star]

I bet Scrubz gotta be somewhere in UK

[sick lance]

I am, however it's not as warm as where Jabba is,

[rapid merlin]

imagine using

widgets

[gray sonnet]

Amateurs

[sick lance]

Couldn't be bothered to pick up my phone 🤷

If it dispalys the same information, who cares? 😂

[rapid merlin]

yeah but

microsoft sucks

[sick lance]

Are you using Microsoft?

[errant fossil]

Thats more like it

[gray sonnet]

Lol

[errant fossil]

When i was living in Dubai we would get 40 in the summer and that was hard

[lavish star]

is mindblowing how in countries like Egypt people live in 40 degree celsius weather

or 110 F

[tired peak]

its amazing that the brits were so big on colonization, everywhere they went it was much hotter... maybe its what they truly craved

[lavish star]

that s enough heat to cook yourself a good meal

[gray sonnet]

it's 32 degrees here in monsoon...in the summers it goes to like 45-50 degrees celcius

[sick lance]

Not all.

Only things I prefer hot is my baths and food.

[tired peak]

how about tea?

[lavish star]

everywhere they went there were gold/slaves/spices

[sick lance]

I don't drink tea, at all.

[tired peak]

true

[lavish star]

not even black tea?

[tired peak]

I drink tea.. although I like iced tea more than hot tea

[sick lance]

None. 🙂

[lavish star]

Yorkshire is so good

the black tea

[wintry sluice]

mmm, nice hot tea, tasty cold brewed coffee

[lavish star]

with a bit of milk

[tired peak]

I haven't bought yorkshire tea in a bit, I should.

[lavish star]

I barely find any in my country and need to bother relatives to send it from UK

[tired peak]

its one of the brands we get in the US grocery stores, that, tetley and PG tips

[gray sonnet]

[mossy river]

nah I'm calm

[chilly veldt]

just cut my program time down from 32 hours to 12 hours

[boreal scarab]

A10 on a T34

MERICA!

[gray sonnet]

I see why 64GB ram is so important

[silver sky]

Guess who broke their laptop last night on a pentest

[silver sky]

Tetley on top

[jagged moon]

What the hell where is your community legend role

[silver sky]

Community legend role?

[jagged moon]

For the nice color so we are the same

[silver sky]

I dunno 😂

Do I count as a legend?

[jagged moon]

@mossy river reddit folks don't get one?

[silver sky]

I mean I'm not even related to the Reddit anymore

I'm retired

[jagged moon]

There ya go

[mossy river]

Of course

[silver sky]

OH LOOK SHINY COLOUR

[jagged moon]

[silver sky]

Thank you Jared

[crude stump]

👋

[sick lance]

You almost look as cool as me 😎

[jagged moon]

You wish

We much cooler

[sick lance]

No, u old.

[jagged moon]

No u old

[silver sky]

Reminded to take laptops off when climbing fences

[jagged moon]

F

[silver sky]

@jagged moon you two behave

Before I step in and bonk ya both

[gray sonnet]

discord changed again....

The UI, 🤮

[silver sky]

It's an ever evolving platform

[sick lance]

Minimalist.

[jagged moon]

AGAIN??

[gray sonnet]

Yup

[crude stump]

They always choose the worst uis

[gray sonnet]

I liked the old one

[mossy river]

New ui looks nice

[gray sonnet]

I don't know why they're bouncing around so much

[mossy river]

But for veteran discord users it’s a step back in ease of access

[gray sonnet]

I agree with Jabba

[mossy river]

This was because of a complaint that user profiles were too big

[gray sonnet]

bruh...

[mossy river]

So now you have to click to see the full profile instead of it always showing

[gray sonnet]

ease of access >>>>>>>>> looking good

[crude stump]

Bruh one complaint

Bruh bruh bruh

[gray sonnet]

and since when did companies start taking complaints from 1 user seriously???

[worn thorn]

search is still bad. Discord pls fix.

[sick lance]

It would have been > than 1.

[worn thorn]

hehe

[gray sonnet]

I know, I was making a sarcastic joke

[silver sky]

Yay us oldies are now gonna be confused

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stupid-younger-generation-young-old-pissed-gif-5068746

[wintry sluice]

1.2k pts from godhood 💪

[mossy river]

I definitely should have put on sunscreen

I’m like a piece of steak on the bbq

[near hawk]

Yet, you were saying you should always wear sunscreen

Not learning from your own advice lol

[wintry sluice]

I hear horseradish sauce is helpful when you feel like this

[whole moss]

I definitely should have put on sunscreen
I’m like a piece of steak on the bbq

[crude stump]

You some clone?

[mossy river]

One has to make the mistakes to inform others

[shut hawk]

Vibes

[chilly veldt]

this and also

my programming skills
me giving programming advice

[gray sonnet]

I have 4 Kali VMs for some reason...

[gray sonnet]

how'd you find a meme about me 🤨

[misty crag]

Hi

[stuck otter]

I had a ctf where two jpg images were provided.
One called original and the other called edited
I converted them into a text file and ran diff to find the output of

7298d7297
< zged

However that only means between those two lines theres zged as a string but that kinda means nothing to me

Maybe im going at it the wrong way

[loud marlin]

well well... internet is down

[stuck otter]

rip

[rapid merlin]

Hottest day this year here. 29C

[rapid merlin]

Since when does The Netherlands look like this? lol

Or isnt that here?

[loud marlin]

it's not...

[rapid merlin]

Ahhh

[gray sonnet]

If you came to India, you're gonna have a hard time haha

[pine stratus]

hi , can i start learning reverse engineering while im still beginner , in coding ?

[loud marlin]

you can learn anything you wish and want ... at any time you wish

[rapid merlin]

But it will take much time :)

[wintry sluice]

also, no vindaloo 😢

[pine stratus]

i mean isn't re requires deep understanding of coding?

[gray sonnet]

ouch, why no vindaloo 👀

[loud marlin]

as i say... anything at any time... you go with flow and learn what you missing and so, thing i can promise you, it will not come ower night... im sure that you know that 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Yes, of course it requires advanced knowledge of coding. RE isnt something easy...

[loud marlin]

make notes all the way. read around, follow things...

[hot dune]

🇷🇸

[loud marlin]

start small. make plan. do not overload you self. take brakes and rest...

[pine stratus]

alr , thank you !

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @loud marlin (current: #27 - 310)

[wintry sluice]

I didn't think you could get a vindaloo in india.

[loud marlin]

if you learn on working days, try take rest on weekends or so... also it help if you find mind alike ppl in own town. share ideas and so

[pine stratus]

i have a 11 month free . ill try to gain knowledge everyday .

[loud marlin]

that's nice. take like week of all pc stuff... refresh brain

[pine stratus]

indeed

[errant fossil]

hardware?

[loud marlin]

ha ?

[errant fossil]

like pc stuff?

[loud marlin]

all that include pc. is nice to take liek whole 7 days or so off all the things

[errant fossil]

ohh alr

[loud marlin]

it help brain to calm and when you back you have that push again. butrnout is shitty thing

[errant fossil]

yeah thats true going piece by piece is best and not everyone is same some take longer than others to understand the same thing

[mossy river]

I've been on a burnout since 2022

[loud marlin]

frack... you are old 🙂

[wintry sluice]

no sunscreen since 2022? ouch

[rapid merlin]

Who even uses sunscreen

Alr only on the beach

[mossy river]

https://tenor.com/view/j-alexander-antm-americas-next-top-model-clutches-pearls-clutch-neck-gif-21070072

[wintry sluice]

people who don't wanna end up looking like a steak on the bbq

[loud marlin]

have hobby that require doing complete opossite stuff is help to keep up. for example. cooking is great. also you can learn how to draw and/or painting. that way brain need thing of how to use hands in creatiwe way.

[mossy river]

NHS advices you to use sunscreen whenever you are outside. You should opt for a lower factor when you're indoors

[mossy river]

I wouldn't mind tasting like one thooo

[rapid merlin]

Are you a kannibal?

[errant fossil]

thats very true, for me i use drone videography and thats been great together with learning computers

[rapid merlin]

Tf did discord do with profiles

[errant fossil]

updates

and its worse

[rapid merlin]

Cropped shi

Looks crappy asf

[loud marlin]

try learn how to draw with pencil or so. i was quite shocked of how it effected me. you need pay atention for real to make something on paper

as for example when you do some "hacking" lots of things are autotype with hands

[rapid merlin]

Guys what do whe think of HP Wolf

[sick lance]

I use it.

[errant fossil]

i used to before and became great at it but got busy, I think i should pick it back up

[rapid merlin]

You fr?

[sick lance]

if something gets past HP Wolf, it doesn't get past Malware-Bytes.

[rapid merlin]

Tbh its a hell for MSPs

[loud marlin]

for me is great. don't do it often but when i need it help to get that "distraction" an get back

[rapid merlin]

Wait guys "a hell" or "an hell"?

[sick lance]

Depends on the context.

"Tbh it's hell for MSPs" is more grammatically correct.

[rapid merlin]

Mhh. Interesting. My English is not peak level you know xd

But, it's hell for MSPs

Because HP installs it on every Windows installation they distribute. Many people use the default installation of windows...

[errant fossil]

thats great, its my first time hearing about the opposite idea, it makes a lot of sense

[gray sonnet]

👀

[shadow loom]

yeaaaaa .... listen

My sister once ordered what she thought was just a salad in Thailand, right

spicy salad

she gets it, then panics and looks at me like "are... are those things moving? tell me they're not moving"

they were moving

she didn't eat lunch that day

[gray sonnet]

They were moving. - Birb's sister

[loud marlin]

whatewer you do with hands only in order to create new thing is is something that have affect in different way of what you do on daily thing it affectr brain in great way

[gray sonnet]

my dad once went to vietnam when he was in the special forces for training exercises

idk jungle warfare or something...but when he was done with training him and his mates decided to get dinner outside...they were selling worms

in paper cups

to eat...

my dad and his buddies noped the f out of there

[wintry sluice]

ooo, klingon cuisine

[gray sonnet]

Klingon cuisine

[shadow loom]

KEKW

bamboo shoots are great

[errant fossil]

that is very true and helps set your mind off things

[loud marlin]

i also did learn sign language. SLU

[crude stump]

The crunch of bamboo shoots are good

[timid prism]

i tried but i ended up disliking eating

[loud marlin]

for some reason, i read 3 times "the church of bamboo shoots" in a row

[timid prism]

school exams are really boring

i waste my 2 hours there

[silver sky]

Same even walking to the shops I am burned

[crude stump]

I noticed that all the defcon ctf winners are huge groups. How is that fair for solo players

[silver sky]

More brains, more power

like a human botnet

[rapid merlin]

That's, in fact, how it works

[whole yew]

I don't think you understand how difficult the defcon CTFs are

[wintry sluice]

gotta specialise

[shut kiln]

I am finding it hard to uninstall Burp:

sudo apt purge --auto-remove .BurpSuite
[sudo] password for kali:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package .BurpSuite
E: Couldn't find any package by glob '.BurpSuite'
thanks.

[crude stump]

I see

[blazing granite]

do you know what is the scariest plant in the forest? bam boo 😂 😛

[wintry sluice]

alternatively, eat human brains to increase your intelligence

100% works. totally legit

[sick lance]

Uh...

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-tank-simulator-fact-checked-false-cts-this-post-was-fact-checked-gif-8455097226201218594

[silver sky]

Uh

[sick lance]

Enjoy trying to avoid Kuru.

[silver sky]

Kuru incoming

[warm terrace]

pacman -S BrainPremium

[rapid merlin]

How long do you have now?

Nice.

[crude stump]

How do they know

[shut kiln]

can someone help me please?

[silver sky]

welp, the email about a redudancy meeting is definitely not concerning

[crude stump]

Aw damn so you can’t fake it

[blazing granite]

time management?

[rapid merlin]

Sorry, I have no idea. Why do you want to uninstall Burp in Kali if I may ask?

[shut kiln]

It is making me crazy
I want to reinstall it after that

[wintry sluice]

books of gold?? 😮

[rapid merlin]

What do you mean by crazy?

[wintry sluice]

oh, beige

[blazing granite]

I don't mind tests, but I hate timed tests. I always I'm afraid of run out of time, and leave questions unanswered not because IDK those just because of the effing time

[warm terrace]

real

[rapid merlin]

I had a test today and just didnt fill 5/33 questions because I didnt have enough time. I hate it.

[shut kiln]

I am trying to finish the UploadVulns room and I find it not consistent with its problems, sometimes it works in a certain situation and sometimes it doesn't.
also the whole VM crushes because of it.

[blazing granite]

my worst nightmare when it comes to tests

[rapid merlin]

Mhh strange. Tbh I dont know how to uninstall. What you can do is installing another installation

Download from the burp site

[shut kiln]

I did an update

you think installing over it without uninstalling is ok?

[sand trench]

YAY ueberzugpp has just updated to fix yesterdays software to new probelm

[rapid merlin]

Yeah just install it in another path

[shut kiln]

I will try
Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @icy epoch (current: #149 - 48)

[tropic musk]

hello

[rapid merlin]

hi

[tropic musk]

is it allowed to ask about sub subscriptions here?

[rapid merlin]

About subscriptions? Depends what you gonna ask lol

[tropic musk]

just how the annual subscription works

[rapid merlin]

Oh of course

What do you wanna know about it?

[tropic musk]

so what happens if I cancel the subscription after few months

[silver sky]

It will continue until the end of the subscription

which will be a year from you signing up to it

[rapid merlin]

There's your answer :)

[tropic musk]

ah I guess monthly subscription is for me

[silver sky]

So if you cancel it 6 months in, it will continue for 6 months before it will expire and you'll be back to the free tier.

Should you want only a few months, a monthy subscription will be better for you

[chilly veldt]

Yooo wide!

Did I tell you about what I did this weekend?

[tropic musk]

that should be right

[silver sky]

No bella, what did you do?

[wintry sluice]

try to take over the world?

[tropic musk]

thanks you two :)

[silver sky]

Your welcome

[chilly veldt]

I was training with a special unit in the home guard and we had to do mout!

[rapid merlin]

+rep @silver sky

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @silver sky (current: #47 - 161)

[silver sky]

+rep @rapid merlin

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @icy epoch (current: #145 - 49)

[rapid merlin]

xd

[silver sky]

Ooooh fun

[mossy river]

It's so cold

[silver sky]

I just broke my laptop

that's what I did last night

[rapid merlin]

You good?

[rapid merlin]

Broke or broke broke?

[mossy river]

Need +20C then I'll be happy

[chilly veldt]

Yeeee, clearing 3 buildings, 1 of them dry and the 2 others with blanks

[rapid merlin]

Damnn thats hella hot

[mossy river]

57 won't hurt no-one

[chilly veldt]

The one we did dry was team based in a 2 story building, which was fun, and the 2 with blanks was solo clearing

[rapid merlin]

Im sure not. Im not going to collapse no no

If its ever gonna be 57C here im moving to Antartica

[mossy river]

Booo

[silver sky]

I fell on it climbing a fence and it's broken the screen

[wintry sluice]

think everyone will be dead if its that hot

[rapid merlin]

Nooo, you gonna (let someone) fix it?

[silver sky]

I might just use it as an excuse to use the business profits to buy a new one

[rapid merlin]

A win is a win

[chilly veldt]

Safe to say I will now get military experience cause I will be joining that unit

[crude stump]

what unit

[rapid merlin]

Scrubbbzzz do you speak French?

Was reading #intros yk

[crude stump]

totally-scrubz

[rapid merlin]

Euros in 71min!

[worn thorn]

who's playing?

[crude stump]

im cooked 😭

[rapid merlin]

The Netherlands VS Austria

And France VS Poland

[worn thorn]

that will be interesting

[rapid merlin]

Nah, Netherlands and France are already trough

[worn thorn]

I just like netherlands and austria.

[rapid merlin]

Italy-Croatia was a fun one to watch

[rapid merlin]

Yeah me too

What players do you like? Frimpong? Simons?

Alaba?

[worn thorn]

don't know the players. Not that into football.

[rapid merlin]

Fair fair

[worn thorn]

though germany scotland was a slap and a half and also I'm glad switzerland won against us.

[rapid merlin]

Where are you from?

[worn thorn]

germany

[rapid merlin]

Ah

Wait did Switzerland win?

Draw right?

[worn thorn]

I though they won :O

[rapid merlin]

Nah they drawed

[worn thorn]

damn

[rapid merlin]

92' goal Fullkrug

[normal fable]

Any of you ever watch the Seattle Sounders? Just curious what your opinion of them is.

[rapid merlin]

But watching your team play knowing they are already through, nothing is better

[rapid merlin]

Nopee

[worn thorn]

tell them to get a ssd

[rapid merlin]

Was about to say lol

HDD is slow... Duhhh

But I'm scared the rules dont allow helping with work questions...

[worn thorn]

yea germany do be strong but sometimes a bit goofy.

[rapid merlin]

They are really strong. Especially the midfield. Kroos dropping to defence for the buildup etc

Beautiful team. How's the atmosphere in Germany?

[worn thorn]

that is a double sided question. It's either close to heat death or a bit of pride for waving the flag.

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-cats-wave-waving-cute-animals-gif-11663195

Hello

[rapid merlin]

Hi!

[worn thorn]

greetings

[rapid merlin]

Fair fair, have you been to a match already?

[worn thorn]

nope. I don't like big gatherings. Gives me the bad goosebumps.

[normal fable]

Defrag just moves stuff around (fragmented files) so that they're less fragmented. I'd NOT defrag if it is a SSD as it can really mess things up. HDD is okay. May help.. may...

[rapid merlin]

You dont like the orange army? xd

[worn thorn]

nightmare that :o

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @normal fable (current: #54 - 135)

[boreal scarab]

How y'all doing?

[rapid merlin]

Fine. Hbu?

[gray sonnet]

Good, how're you doing?

[crude stump]

horrible

[normal fable]

Morning Matt.

[worn thorn]

bored to the bone.

[normal fable]

Why horrible @crude stump ?

[crude stump]

cant get ovpn to connect

[loud marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/it-problem-phone-call-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-gif-17823069

[normal fable]

regenerate and re-download?

[crude stump]

in a minute im bouta do that

[rapid merlin]

Did you use sudo? :p

[crude stump]

https://tenor.com/view/man-destroys-pc-harold-slikk-new-computer-haroldslikk-escortedcomputer-gif-23496313

[crude stump]

yeah

[boreal scarab]

Little tired, Let my AV ran over night... excluded the ISO's and VM's that would be problem childs..... AV still reported on em, breh

[normal fable]

Have you attempted methodically depleting the flow of electrons then re-enabling the flow of electrons?

[buoyant tree]

same

any ideas

[rapid merlin]

Oh noo

[crude stump]

genius

hold on a minute

[boreal scarab]

WAIT. Ovpn for THM, or something else?

[crude stump]

yes thm

[steel aspen]

MC Hammer won't help because you in fact can touch this

[worn thorn]

maybe enjoying some series' or just laying down idk

[crude stump]

yk what i always wanted to do

a rage room

that would be so fun ngl

[boreal scarab]

Do you by any chance have a backup of your ovpn profile? New ones I downloaded hated me, but my original from my, now broken, Kali. worked.

[normal fable]

keeps a 3lb cross peen hammer in his car

Hammers help sometimes. lol

[boreal scarab]

keeps cat litter in car

[crude stump]

no sadly. My orginal(the problematic one) is my first i downloaded

i worked on friday

[normal fable]

Absolutely as you should. I need to do that as well.. but I've never been stuck in my car.. yet...

[crude stump]

had vacation and now its dookie

[boreal scarab]

Are you trying to get that one to work, or trying to download a new one?

[crude stump]

trying to get that one to work

i might just regenerate one

nah but overall my days good

[gray sonnet]

@boreal scarab Boxes 👀

[crude stump]

should say horrible

shouldnt

[boreal scarab]

Same here, and I usually only carry that in the winter, but jumper cables, I go everywhere with em. Not once do I leave jumper cables at home.

Have I ever needed em? Nope.

[silver sky]

I keep one of these in my car for entry purposes

[boreal scarab]

Wtf are you doing with a halligen?

[normal fable]

I have jumper cables, tire pressure gauge, OBDII code reader, water, a blanket, full size spare and tools.

[crude stump]

they mix well with windshields matt

jk

[silver sky]

Raids

[boreal scarab]

Oh that's right, forgot you're Fish and Wildlife officer

(US Equivilent, all I know)

[silver sky]

It's actually for my other job

[crude stump]

bondsman?

[silver sky]

We don't have them in the UK

[crude stump]

oh

man

[gray sonnet]

Oooh, what kind of raids are we talking about 👀

[crude stump]

shadow legends

[shut hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-fbiopenup-carlwhitman-gif-19586039

[boreal scarab]

The one thing from DEF CON that really stuck with me was the Physical Bypass Village tool they showed off:

[silver sky]

Wanted individuals, drugs etc

[gray sonnet]

Oooh, I see 👀

[crude stump]

wait are villages like showoffs of different tools and such

[gray sonnet]

interesting

[boreal scarab]

That tool is mainly meant for glass doors, but if you can get it through the door, you can use it. Very tricky though

[silver sky]

Police do the arrests, we do the entry as we don't need a warrant

then we invite them in so no need for a warrant

[gray sonnet]

makes sense

[crude stump]

do yall sit down and have dinner too?

😂

[silver sky]

Yes, normally coffee or tea tbf

[boreal scarab]

Sorta????
For that village it was. But for Blue Team VIllage, I'll let @edgy ferry answer that one

[crude stump]

"so how was your criminal life"

[silver sky]

Oh no, not with the criminals, with the police yes

[crude stump]

ooooh

[buoyant tree]

what job is b&e irl

[crude stump]

ah

[edgy ferry]

hi !

[crude stump]

i should really watch a video on past defcons

[edgy ferry]

villages are community ran and we pretty much showcase a lot of cool shit 🤘

[silver sky]

When I come knocking you better open

[edgy ferry]

we also run contests / ctfs in person

[crude stump]

interactive too?

[edgy ferry]

yup !

we have tracks and talks

[buoyant tree]

Aren't security officers supposed to keep people out instead of breaking in?

[edgy ferry]

where you can follow along learning something new

[crude stump]

thats sick

[edgy ferry]

last year we had intro to detection engineering stuff

[silver sky]

Depends, in my job it's more a blurred line between security and law enforcement

[chilly veldt]

Security force for the air home guard, a reaction unit that helps the air forces

[crude stump]

how beginner friendly is it. i asked that question here too but i would love to hear other people

[silver sky]

The chairforce

[loud marlin]

water bottle lid...

[silver sky]

do you help them when they run out of donuts?

[sand trench]

inticrate

[edgy ferry]

its a mix of everything, as a beginner you can do 90% of the stuff with ease :)

including the ctf

support is always there, just walk up and ask away!

[crude stump]

thats awsome. thanks for answering

[chilly veldt]

We help them when they have to emergency land or if an airbase has been lost, etc.
We clear the area for them to land safely

[silver sky]

Fair enough

[wintry sluice]

but if you keep it in your car, you can

can't use it if you lose your keys...

[silver sky]

Thank god I don't lose my keys xD

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wintry sluice (current: #155 - 47)

[chilly veldt]

So not chairforce, also we are all volunteers, but we get full training and need to be active and keep training to stay on the same level as the actual military

[silver sky]

I was only messing ❤️ and fair enough, good luck to you

[chilly veldt]

Thank you, and I know, at least we aren't seapickles or sock people

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @silver sky (current: #46 - 162)

[boreal scarab]

Wait, Danish Airforce is also called Chairforce?
I thought that was a US name

[silver sky]

I just stick to eating crayons

[boreal scarab]

Now Marine's are brought in?!

[chilly veldt]

Narh, just wide messing

I mean, we have the frog guys

[normal fable]

How many times do I have to tell you.. CRAYONS ARE NOT FOOD!

[chilly veldt]

They are snacks

[jade ocean]

But candy

[boreal scarab]

👀

[crude stump]

frogmen are awsome

[jade ocean]

Chainmail in modern combat is so strange

except for maybe in east london

[crude stump]

thats a net

[chilly veldt]

It's not chainmail

It's water net

[shut hawk]

nook from rainbow six sige

[boreal scarab]

US, We got Navy Seals and Delta Force

[normal fable]

New invention idea.. flavored crayons. lol

[boreal scarab]

Marines will be all over that!

[crude stump]

green berrets, rangers etc

we got so many special forces units its crazy

[jade ocean]

I know but the joke wouldn't work with water nets

[boreal scarab]

Oh we got TONS of special forces

[normal fable]

That was my target... lol

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, special.... Forces

[silver sky]

I like the strawberry flavour the best

[normal fable]

jkjkjk.. in case any Marines are here. We ❤️ you too.

[chilly veldt]

Wide, just be happy I ain't coast guard lmao

[sullen hearth]

You were in the military before voluteering?

[normal fable]

Wide, I'm still getting used to seeing you in blue..

[chilly veldt]

Nope, only military training I've had is from my parents

[jade ocean]

Aren't you also Canadian?

[chilly veldt]

My dad was in Afghan back in 01

[chilly veldt]

Danish

[boreal scarab]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_special_operations_forces

"How many Special Forces you want?"
US:

[sullen hearth]

Nice. A generation-gift 🤘

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-thats-mine-gif-13637000

[jade ocean]

They just call every unit that goes outside of their bases special op

[gray sonnet]

We're talking about special forces 👀

[silver sky]

I was in afghan in 2019 🙂

[chilly veldt]

What area?

[silver sky]

Kabul

Contractor life

[chilly veldt]

Yeah

Can't remember what area my dad was in, he was luckily only on base down there

Communication specialist

2 years before I was born

[silver sky]

Probably bastion

[chilly veldt]

Yeah

[silver sky]

The danish used Bastion quite a bit

[chilly veldt]

Welp, time to wait for a recruiter to call

[crude stump]

heck yeah

downloading a new opvn file worked

[loud marlin]

now compare new vs old

might show what's the issue

[sullen hearth]

Here 2009 🤝

[silver sky]

❤️

[sullen hearth]

One of the craziest part of my life.

[clear jackal]

Special Forces != Special Operations Forces, just FYI

[sullen hearth]

U did it right 😄👍

Sry for being a boomer

[chilly veldt]

I started primary school in 2009

Turning 21 in 2 weeks

[sullen hearth]

Thats crazy when i look back

Mid 20s is great until u reach 30... its better 😎

Did you saw the new vid of David Bombal?

[chilly veldt]

Started 4 years ago

[sullen hearth]

U will if u work for it. And as far as i know you do.

[sullen hearth]

Then u r a crack when i am advanced 😄

[chilly veldt]

Playing for Kalmarunionen, the best CTF team in the world 😅

[silver sky]

Contracting in Iraq was crazier than Afghan I'll be honest

[chilly veldt]

Thank you, got called the best forensics person under 21 last year in Denmark

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @shut raven (current: #498 - 9)

[chilly veldt]

Just by studying thm, htb and other small CTFs every weekend

And then of course certificates whenever that was needed due to job

Not really, but we just started something up locally

[sullen hearth]

Thankfully i was not involved in iraq. I had the call of duty just in 2009 and joined the dudes in 2005.

[chilly veldt]

My first job was IT-support too, and now I do SOC engineering

[silver sky]

Oh fun, Iraq in 2018 was a boiling pot

[sullen hearth]

I wrote a company yesterday for a support job 🙂 . Maby it works but idts. It would be my 28 rejection 🥳

[slender scaffold]

Shoot for 42!

[gray sonnet]

👀

[sullen hearth]

Oh tought you mean in 2003. Operations abroad are no fun. Honestly, i was happy as my time was over.

[slender scaffold]

Omg vain isn’t green anymore

[silver sky]

Oh I was only a child in 2003.

I was 5 back then

[sullen hearth]

But i'll never forget it and the dudes i had the honor to serve with still unforgotten.

[sullen hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-ryan-reynolds-howdy-partner-howdy-well-hello-there-gif-14686137910902090757

[silver sky]

I grew up on watching the iraq and afghan war on the telly

[cold jungle]

Can anyone help me out with error in #subs-room-help

[sullen hearth]

At this time me too but a little older ^^

Which unit?

[tough hollow]

Looking for someone to go through ctfs with? Add me and DM

[boreal scarab]

I forced him to do rooms, and now Vain and I are doing nothing but rooms and boxes day in and day out

[silver sky]

I was a private contractor with Olive Group and Constellis

[boreal scarab]

I thought that said:

"I was a private contractor with Olive Garden"

[chilly veldt]

I would see what you like whenever you get there, a lot of things change when you finally get into it

[gray sonnet]

LET'S DO ROOMS!!

[boreal scarab]

COFFFFEEEEEEEEEEE

[gray sonnet]

yes

well, in about an hour, I have to go run a quick errand

[chilly veldt]

My train is like 40 minutes late

[boreal scarab]

Probably faster walking than waiting

Get to stepping!

[chilly veldt]

It'll take 3 hours to walk if not more

And we just started driving again

[sullen hearth]

Ah okay nice. Had to googel it. More the infrastructure path?

[silver sky]

Mostly armed guarding and convoy security

[sullen hearth]

Most employees of privat companys had often a lack of ammo and support. Never envied them.

[silver sky]

Olive Group was okay for that, Constellis was a bit of a shit show in regards to that.

[buoyant tree]

@boreal scarab reset the DNS counter

[naive violet]

Late to the party here but it'll be 4 sticks running in dual channel.
Channels != sticks or slots

@silver sky wb Hex

[silver sky]

Hello ninja! how's things?

[naive violet]

Pretty good, certified infrastructure team leader with the CHECK scheme now

Been fixing lots of stuff hardware wise. Keeping busy.

[silver sky]

Ooooh very fancy, I've found out today I might be being laid off

So taking a look for other jobs right now

[naive violet]

We're hiring pentesters from trainee to senior really, but in office

[silver sky]

Unfortunately too far to travel for me

[boreal scarab]

[livid nexus]

When I'm getting my paycheck I'm buying premium so I can continue learning my beloved penguin

[naive violet]

Penguin? Maybe THM needs a mascot

[livid nexus]

Linux lol

[sand trench]

that is elf mcskidy

[buoyant tree]

That's AOC exclusive

[sullen hearth]

Whaaat if i suggest u to set up an office here? My home? No?

^^

[sullen hearth]

Just EP gainz 💪

[silver sky]

Yeah it's me 👀

[sullen hearth]

But penguins wear suits no neckties.

[silver sky]

I can wear a bow

[sullen hearth]

Now we are talkin' 😎

[clear jackal]

Hacking Hippo

Damn that's actually a good account name lol

[shut hawk]

sup

[clear jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-thief-chase-devineaux-rafael-petardi-carmen-sandiego-stop-gif-16712079

[livid nexus]

What do I get with premium More juicy stuff

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/life-on-mars-police-gif-27226349

[sick lance]

Open one in Scotland

[leaden socket]

Should I buy flipper zero ?

[boreal scarab]

[sick lance]

I don't know, will you use it, or leave it it a drawer?

[leaden socket]

Thanks

[sick lance]

That's realistically why I'm not buying one.

[boreal scarab]

I have one, all I use it for is to turn on my TV monitor as i lost my remote, that's it now

[sullen hearth]

You need no office. U guys have the real mckenzies already!

[boreal scarab]

CCG Reaper used it to troll DEF CON 31 and rick rolled the WiFi

[leaden socket]

Damn

Over price remote tivi

Well

Rick roll sound fun

Doing it on the school television will get me detention level 2

Pretty bad

Would be funnier if I do this on ceremony

[silver sky]

Yeah let's not talk about playing with equipment we don't own or have permission to mess with

[leaden socket]

Make sense

Tempting

Though

[slender karma]

are there any games for beginners on tryhackme?

[silver sky]

loads

[slender karma]

for example?

[silver sky]

https://tryhackme.com/r/resources/blog/free_path

https://tryhackme.com/r/room/easyctf

https://tryhackme.com/r/hacktivities/search?page=1&difficulty=easy

[sullen hearth]

u can filter ur search for beginner/easy rooms

[slender karma]

yesterday I tried playing the rick and morty game and I also tried playing agent sudo but I almost couldnt do anything

[slender karma]

thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @silver sky (current: #46 - 163)

[crude stump]

Those are ctfs

Well I’m the Rick and Morty is

[dull portal]

https://tryhackme.com/r/room/blue

this is a good one to start with

[silver sky]

blue my beloved

[dull portal]

❤️

[slender karma]

I cant do even this

I dont know what to do at this point

[crude stump]

Practice more then

[silver sky]

Then practice using the teaching rooms

@sick lance will be interested, or perhaps @delicate coyote (sorry wrong james)

[crude stump]

To be able to do these, they require prior hacking knowledge

[slender karma]

and how do I gain this knowledge

[silver sky]

By using the website? we have teaching/walkthrough rooms

[sick lance]

@sage rune Please don't advetise your services 🙂

[crude stump]

There are many windows hacking rooms that help

[slender karma]

theres so much and Im new to this so I cant even find anything youre talking about

[delicate coyote]

It’s cool. I was trying to find out what I’d be interested in lol

[silver sky]

I'm sorry dude

I wasn't very interesting

[dreamy ruin]

hello everyone

I have one question

[noble orchid]

Has anyone finished the offensive pentesting pathway?

[dreamy ruin]

is there any possible test environment for infected files?

in addition to creating a virtual machine

[crude stump]

Well you can set up one but you have to really isolate it so it doesn’t infect your main os

[dreamy ruin]

hmm

[shut hawk]

don't

[mossy river]

Yes, buy the software you’re cracking #rules

[dreamy ruin]

see ya !

😄

[normal vessel]

what kind of attack is it called if I create a bad program with the same name as the normal "good" program?

[buoyant tree]

trojan

[normal vessel]

so it's just a basic trojan? I thought there was a special name for it

[crude stump]

Well a Trojan is the broad term for it

[sick lance]

It's really not?

It's a trojan, something pretending to be something else.

[crude stump]

But like there are different Trojans that to different stuff

[normal vessel]

here's more depth; as a school assignment I created 2 programs with the same md5 hash, different sha256 hashes. Their "payload" is quite literally a text line. I'm working on some resume repository stuff so I wanna make sure I use the most technical language possible to explain everything I've done.

[silver sky]

No

Trojans pretend to be something it's not

that is the definition of a trojan

A Trojan Horse is a type of malware that downloads onto a computer disguised as a legitimate program. The delivery method typically sees an attacker use social engineering to hide malicious code within legitimate software to try and gain users' system access with their software.

[normal vessel]

so I just wanted to make sure trojan is the best way to describe it "technically." I'm not always great at technical language :/

[silver sky]

Best way, linux host, windows VM

but leave it to the professionals

[crude stump]

Yeah that is true. I’m just saying there’s different types of Trojans like back doors etc.

[silver sky]

A backdoor is technically not a trojan

[normal vessel]

They're not the same at all

they're not even close

[noble orchid]

Is a reverse shell classified as a back door?

[normal vessel]

no

[buoyant tree]

well a backdoor can be a trojan if it's disguised as something else

[noble orchid]

I think I don’t understand what back doors are

[normal vessel]

Think about a castle: A backdoor is someone inside the castle letting you in

[pine stratus]

backdoor is something u install in a system after you compromise it so u can access it whenever u want . am i true ?

[loud marlin]

nop... it's a rev shell. backdor is there to make sure that you can access system if main access fail. it is more on to that but in short

[normal vessel]

it would be like Apple making it so if you input the special password "ilovefeds" you can get into all phones.

[chilly veldt]

time to figure out if I have some steel wire laying around

[noble orchid]

I see what you mean. So let’s say I installed a program that sends some sort of connection back to my host every 5mins and if I catch that connection I have shell access. Would that be a back door?

[normal vessel]

yes

[noble orchid]

Ah ok I get it

[normal vessel]

wait

when you say install

do you mean "install" as a hacker or "install" as a developer

[sick lance]

Either?

[normal vessel]

if you mean hacker then no; it's not a backdoor.

[noble orchid]

More as a hacker

Ah

[normal vessel]

Backdoor is an insider threat

[sick lance]

No?

[pallid lotus]

Wut

[silver sky]

No it's not

[loud marlin]

back door is more complicated way of getting on system. rev shell is simple command to call back host/attacker. Backdoors are obfuscated and hard to detect. and they are, in most case, not detected in AV. rev shell can be easy spoted

[sick lance]

An insider threat is somebody who leaks information from inside the org.

[normal vessel]

backdoors are deliberately placed in programs, no?

[pallid lotus]

That's, uh, one definition? Certainly not the standard one

[normal vessel]

not what I meant.

[sick lance]

Then what did you mean?

Lol.

[pallid lotus]

A program, or any other system

[silver sky]

Backdoors typically will be installed with other malware to make sure the attacker can access the machine even if the inital payload is detected later.

[normal vessel]

Backdoors are deliberated placed in programs as an alternate way of getting around a security measure

[chilly veldt]

oh Wide, you like bikes?

[sick lance]

Ah, glad we agree it's not an insider threat then. 🙂

[crude stump]

Summer sucks

[pallid lotus]

It's anything which provides access (to one degree or another), using a method unapproved or unknown by the owner of a system

[normal vessel]

okay my misunderstanding; I thought for it to be considered a backdoor it had to be installed by an insider.

[noble orchid]

I would you even go about hiding a back door from a AV?

[normal vessel]

what type of AV

[loud marlin]

yes.

[crude stump]

I mean a insider threat could put a backdoor into a system

[loud marlin]

it is not detected in AV

[normal vessel]

he was asking how you'd go about doing that

[crude stump]

But I don’t think that’s what heap means

[loud marlin]

and is hard to spot in forst palce. you need to know what you look for

[pine stratus]

isn't a backdoor make sure that let you access to a system after compromising it ?

[normal vessel]

oof I'm going to type out everything I meant and why I was wrong gimmie a second

[pine stratus]

[noble orchid]

I don’t really know the different kinds so I’m not sure

[silver sky]

https://www.malwarebytes.com/backdoor

[pallid lotus]

Same way you'd hide anything else from AV... Reduce the suspiciousness

[shut hawk]

nothingtoseehere.exe

[silver sky]

best naming method

[crude stump]

Looks innocent-antivirus

[normal vessel]

A backdoor is an alternative way of getting around a security measure: think like a rope at the back of a castle wall. You don't have to try and get in the front door, you just climb up the rope. My wrong assumption was that this implied it had to be setup by an insider, but it does NOT.

[noble orchid]

Have not learned anything about hiding programs from a AV so that must be why I’m confused about that

[pallid lotus]

I mean, it doesn't technically need to be a bypass to a deliberate security control either.

[normal vessel]

"Due to how poor this polish virus is please delete one of your own important files"

[normal vessel]

oh it doesn't? interesting. Is it just a way for infil/exfiltration?

[crude stump]

Research research research

[sullen hearth]

Make it slow like a turtle or fast as light.

[normal vessel]

You should go learn about what types of AV programs there are. Signature based is one, go find out the others.

[loud marlin]

ok... today ill rm .ssh folder

[noble orchid]

Yup that’s what cyber is all about

[pallid lotus]

Unless we expand the definition to include things like NAT and inbound firewalls -- which technically are actually security controls, but not ones we'd really think of in this kind of context.

[normal vessel]

I thought this was about bullying kids on fortnite and actually being able to hack their account?

[noble orchid]

lol I didn’t know that was a way

[pine stratus]

isn't the that a definition of a zero day vulnerability?

[pallid lotus]

No

[normal vessel]

no

[noble orchid]

lol nah but… 👀

[pallid lotus]

It's a poor AV that only uses signature based checks...

[crude stump]

A vulnerability the developer doesn’t know about

[normal vessel]

but it's where he should start IMO

[pallid lotus]

You don't categorise AV by the detection techniques they use

That's not a "type" of AV. They all use signature checking and heuristic checking, amongst others.

[normal vessel]

brb I obviously need more caffiene since I'm not being careful with my words.

[pallid lotus]

At that point we're talking about the features built into an AV engine, but they're still fundamentally the same category of software

[sullen hearth]

It's the time from discover to time to react if im not wrong.

[chilly veldt]

ngl, MRE's are really nice when you're home late

[sullen hearth]

If there are zero days. Happy day for some Hackeez

[pallid lotus]

Close. It's a vulnerability which has not been disclosed. e.g., if an issue has been exploited in the wild, you would say that it was a zero day exploited by x,y,z up until the point of disclosure.
Thereafter it becomes an n-day vulnerability

[sullen hearth]

Listen to the song " i want my money back" 👍

[crude stump]

Apts love em

[pine stratus]

just confused , a backdoor is like a misconfiguration or is something installed in a sys after being compromised ?

[sick lance]

Installed after.

[pallid lotus]

It's a concept to describe setting up "backdoor" access, usually into a system you don't own or control.

[crude stump]

C2 servers are back doors right?

Or I mean

They control

[pallid lotus]

For example, sticking a key into a user's SSH authorised keys file would technically count as a backdoor, even without installing anything, or altering any programs

[sick lance]

I hope you'll are taking notes.

[chilly veldt]

I'll do that while working on my bike in a bit 😄

[clear jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[noble orchid]

Uhhhh…

[chilly veldt]

going to be working with fiberglass

remember to wear protection peeps

fiberglass is a mess

[slender karma]

asking someone that has finished all paths in tryhackme:
how long did it take you?

[pallid lotus]

Debatable. I'd just call that command and control personally, potentially mixed in with persistence techniques if you've built in ways to recover lost agents.
Backdoor would be more like adding something which allows you to connect into the compromised instance.
That said, at this point it's all just semantics. The end result is the same.

[pine stratus]

no one did that bc there is always new rooms

[pallid lotus]

Eh? Of course it's been done lmao

[sullen hearth]

Would it be accepted despite the encryption?

[pallid lotus]

Whether it stays done is another matter...

[noble orchid]

Great, didn’t know thm had a AV evasion room

[crude stump]

Yeah

[pine stratus]

even new rooms ????

[pallid lotus]

Pardon?

[shut hawk]

you'll 🤨

[crude stump]

You all

[pallid lotus]

Plenty of folk done everything on the site

Ryan used to keep up. Not sure if he still does

[chilly veldt]

here and there

when he has time at least 😄

[noble orchid]

Can’t imagine having it all done

[pine stratus]

im just making my feel better ignore me

[sullen hearth]

If i am right u said u have to put a key in the (private?) - key ...?

[sick lance]

Phone auto correct, 😄

[pallid lotus]

No, you'd stick a public key associated with a private key under your control into their authorized keys file

[sullen hearth]

There are several ssh key. How do the process work? That's what im not understand.

[pallid lotus]

Or preferably just run off with their private key

Not, admittedly, that you're likely to manage that irl

Eh, then again. Best practices are frequently broken

[chilly veldt]

Racoon, what's your favorite MRE?

[silver sky]

None, they all taste like 💩

[chilly veldt]

This one actually tastes pretty alright

[chilly veldt]

Chicken with sweet & sour and pasta

[noble orchid]

Unfortunately I’m going to be eating those a lot

[pine stratus]

in your job experience , you stimulate apts Campaign ?

[pallid lotus]

Simulate?

[pine stratus]

yes

[crude stump]

Think they mean use there tactics

[pallid lotus]

Yes, I have been involved in adversary emulation campaigns.

[sullen hearth]

Ah okay. Think i can follow. Even tho dont yet understand the whole process. But sounds interesting 🤝

[chilly veldt]

one of my friends "ransomwared" his first company on a red team assessment, not long ago, he rewrote some of the lockbit code and called it lockbyte

[pine stratus]

must be fun , have you succeed ?

[pallid lotus]

Define "succeed"

Remember you want to be caught in those engagements. You try your hardest to avoid being caught, but "losing" is what you're hoping for

[sullen hearth]

Whats this. We discovered today that im a boomer 😂

[pine stratus]

did you find any valid attack vectors that can be critical for the organization you have been hired in ?

[chilly veldt]

Military Ready-to-Eat meals

field rations as they are also called

[silver sky]

Meal Ready to Eat

[pine stratus]

oh

[pallid lotus]

Not sure I can answer that one, legally speaking lmao

[pine stratus]

okay .. i just find that interesting

and fun job

[loud marlin]

you can... we will tell no one... also share your ssh keys ❤️

[devout palm]

Hiya

[pine stratus]

where is the risk if he shares when u don't know anything about him?

[loud marlin]

NDA

[sullen hearth]

Hardcookies also called "tank plates" 😄

[loud marlin]

and much more of things

[chilly veldt]

lmao, nice

[sullen hearth]

U could break it down to "u can't poop for 4 days cookies"

[pallid lotus]

It's not like you see in the movies. There's a lot more stress to it than you'd expect.

[chilly veldt]

yeah, we have that too

[pallid lotus]

It's not like you just get to run around a target network without restriction. The scope is wider than that of a pentest, but it does still apply.

[naive violet]

I mean sometimes you do

[sullen hearth]

Great invention 😄 . And if u buy them today u can eat them in 10 years 🤣

[naive violet]

Not common thouhh

[chilly veldt]

yuuuuuup

oh well, I need to go get some steel wire, cya later

[loud marlin]

ups... i "forget" to turn off my wifi-pineapple

[sullen hearth]

Don't forget the song!

[pine stratus]

people who work within the organization can be tested if they are vulnerable to social engineering attacks ?

[loud marlin]

ofc. no one is immune to any kind of test/attacks

[naive violet]

Sometimws

Depends on scope. Always depends on scope.

[loud marlin]

and this also yea

hire pentest company to pentest you pentest company

[pine stratus]

there is something i don't get , i think the goal of red teaming is to protect the organization from external threat actors attack , why the hell they make scops for the test while they knows everything about who they hired . ? isn't the organization should be tested for all things so no chances for threat actors to compromise the organization?

[naive violet]

Scope is about time, practicality, risk to business critical systems, budget

There's lots of factors

You cannot possibly hope to exhaustively test every facet of a large organisation even with 20 people in a month

[sullen hearth]

Ah. Now im on the way. U have to gain access or already infiltrate the target system. So u could leave the key there. Thats great. But how would an attacker camouflage it? Every known user has a already a key. The soc would detect it right?

[noble orchid]

Red teaming and pentesting are different right?

[naive violet]

Yes, but it can get confusing

"the red team" is often a short hand for offensive security

[noble orchid]

Ah ok

[sage schooner]

scope is important when critical systems are being use, a story for you:

be new at pertest
pertest eye clinic systems
one of the IPs was connected to a remote laser surgery system
someone was being treated during pentest
luckyly noone got hurt
stay within your scope and ask alot of questions, it will keep you from having to hire a lawyer.

[rapid merlin]

Both hack systems without getting a jail sentece
One sounds fancy - one doesnt

[pine stratus]

the best way to defense is to attack

[rapid merlin]

not always

[sage schooner]

what is a security framework for 100$ please.

[pine stratus]

if he attacks you

😂

[sage schooner]

you still go to jail

[rapid merlin]

police pentesting lol

[pine stratus]

not fair

[sage schooner]

the would definitely benefit from it. I bet some of your local police servers are really easy to [//redacted//]

[rapid merlin]

lol

[sullen hearth]

Oh i have nice general question.

When and why u get in touch with cyber-security and what was the main reason?

[sage schooner]

to change your pasword cuz you forgot lel

[sage schooner]

astral, did you see that Fluff is back?

[rapid merlin]

he a mod again?

[sage schooner]

lol no, he came yesterday and now he is running both noob and legend badges lol, I dont think he is modding tho

[sick lance]

Fluff does not have a noob badge.

[sick lance]

That doesn't count.

[sage schooner]

why not?

[sick lance]

Fluff too advanced for noob.

[crude stump]

What kind of autogenerated username is this

[sage schooner]

idk maybe SMTP or SSH gotta ask fluff himself

[crude stump]

I’m talking about jays lol

Or “hackinghippo1337”

[sage schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

yeah you right lol

https://tenor.com/view/hippo-nope-hippa-gif-5148613

[errant fossil]

just had a question, i have virgin media at my house and in their app you can create another network for Guests, This would be subnetting right?

[naive violet]

Nah that's a wholly seperate network not a subdivision of yours

[sage schooner]

no guest network and subnet are diferent

it depends on the scope of the guest network aswell, some guest networks provided by a regularr router may or may not us vlan internally aswell

[errant fossil]

Even thought it would use the same resources and run off the same router?

Ohhhhhh now it makes sense, My brain is not working rn

[sage schooner]

dapends on the router configuration, if they are running it through vlan. if you want to check, look at the IPs, they shoudl be nearly identical exept for the routing prefix

as in subnetted IP should be the same as the main network except for the routing prefix.

[errant fossil]

Alr this makes sense, Thanks for the help

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sage schooner (current: #1401 - 2)

[errant fossil]

Thanks for the quick response

[barren lantern]

👋

[rapid merlin]

hi

[errant fossil]

If i cant understand something, is it best to stick to it or move on further?

[sick lance]

Look for external materials

[pallid lotus]

Try working for a bank

[pallid lotus]

Bunch of possible ways, not least because Linux systems have historically been notoriously poorly monitored. But yes, it's not something you would usually do on a red team

[barren lantern]

I agree with Scrubz. Other ressources, other explanations

[boreal scarab]

Muiri! You coming to DEFCON? Can't remember if I asked

[errant fossil]

Alr imma check out some other sources then, Thanks @sick lance and @barren lantern

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @barren lantern (current: #2112 - 1)

[chilly veldt]

@mossy river you following along?

[whole yew]

depends on the org, but mostly on the application - and even with ti's shortcomings, syslog and journald have both been waaaaaaay better than the default windows events system

[sand trench]

[errant fossil]

on the vid of intro to lan it says this

while on the website it says 4 bytes(32 bits)

which is correct?

[muted hull]

4 bytes

[errant fossil]

is 8 bytes outdated?

[muted hull]

it's never been true

a typo

[errant fossil]

oh alr

[tepid furnace]

well it depends

[marble totem]

8 bits = 1 byte

[glossy mantle]

hello

[tepid furnace]

if the police do not announce themselves in a raid on your home, and you shoot one out of reaction you will be found innocent

this has been set as precedent although varies from case to case

[muted hull]

i thought police had protection during a no knock?

[tepid furnace]

again it depends

[muted hull]

if executing a no knock warrant that is

[tepid furnace]

if they dont announce themselves

meaning

[whole yew]

It's all contextual, and this kind of thing gets very political very quickly.

[tepid furnace]

they dont yell "police department"

stuff like that

[muted hull]

oh i see what you're saying

[tepid furnace]

although that usually never happense

[whole yew]

I would ask that the conversation move on to another topic before it gets to a point where one of us has to stop it

[tepid furnace]

and is best to always comply

[glossy mantle]

fbi open up!!

[tepid furnace]

fair enough

[whole yew]

thank you

[tepid furnace]

but usally just comply, you'll always have ur day in court

:3

[chilly veldt]

Euro is a mess right now

[tepid furnace]

the value of the euro?

[chilly veldt]

both games in group C is just 0-0

[muted hull]

the eu?

OH

💀

[chilly veldt]

Football

[buoyant tree]

My mouses main buttons are ain't working so am using the side buttons as a replacement

Any ideas for a new mouse

[chilly veldt]

have you tried turning it off and on?

[buoyant tree]

yes

[chilly veldt]

I like my logitech G203

[muted hull]

i use the corsair ironclaw and i really like it

[chilly veldt]

it's wired though

[muted hull]

the corsair is too