general

[buoyant trout]

agree

[glass nest]

And Skidys live Rap has been coming for about the same

[naive violet]

They said they'd do karaoke

[viscid hill]

its the THM army

[peak scarab]

Networking is interesting to learn as long as it isn’t through Cisco’s academy thing. I had to do that for school.

[glass nest]

At this stage, we should demand that Skidy and Ashu do 'Summer loving' from Grease.

[hollow stream]

Sounds painful tbf

[devout palm]

yes!

[viscid hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pksRek9MM1I this will do for now

[peak scarab]

Networking isn’t painful. Cisco is very painful though.

[glass nest]

Manual subnetting is a pain

[hollow stream]

Yeah I'm really looking forward to it, but I don't like learning things corporate

[viscid hill]

i need to get my subnetting up to scratch

thats for another day

[glass nest]

it's always for another day 😄

[viscid hill]

no quite literally

[devout palm]

One day or day one

[viscid hill]

its too late

im going to bed in an hr

[peak scarab]

That’s how I had to learn to do it. Would have been fine if they taught us how to set everything inside windows before the hands on exam.

[glass nest]

And in real life.. you just use a tool 😄

[stuck tangle]

It's quite easy once you get the hang of it. It just takes a bit of practice

[glass nest]

Yeah, but it's not practise I wanna do 😄

[stuck tangle]

Binary/hex math comes with time

[viral fable]

Is it an advantage if you're a programmer trying to dive into Ethical Hacking..? And how best can I divide my time between the two

[stuck tangle]

Fair enough tbh

[peak scarab]

In real life I don’t get penalized for setting a 32 host partition for a 16 host subnet!

[boreal scarab]

(In 7 days to die)

@gray sonnet : Drinks Moonshine
Also Vain: "Why am I see 2 of everything?"

[gray sonnet]

[glass nest]

It can help, joel. being able to read code is more important in learning how to code (of hacking). Although a bit of python and bash is useful

[gray sonnet]

NOW I can aim properly

[devout palm]

It's an advantage in some cases. It might be easier for you to understand how systems behave and how they work.

[viral fable]

Am a python, Javascript and C++ programmer. I guess on the right path

[viscid hill]

Yes for sure, programming is super helpful, reading code and understanding how it processes user data for example can be really useful for testing the security, being tech savvy in any sense of the word does no harm

[hollow stream]

Definetely

That weird programming question made me think though haha

[viscid hill]

im still baffled

[hollow stream]

Like what is it asking me to do

[devout palm]

What question?

[hollow stream]

This beautiful mess: #room-help message

[viral fable]

Wow NaCl You really love talking about programming

[hollow stream]

I do haha

It's been a part of my life for a while now

And I study it at university

[viral fable]

Oh for real..?

[hollow stream]

Yup, I study computer science

[jagged moon]

Figured it out?

[hollow stream]

I mean I know what it's asking but the function just is weird

[jagged moon]

Not really

[devout palm]

Why 2 parameters

[viral fable]

Am A high school guy. Still debating wether to study Cyber Security or Software Engineering..Can you give advice

[shut hawk]

What do you like doing?

[hollow stream]

It really depends what you wanna do with it, they're very different fields

[shell nova]

just wait til you get a job, then you'll definitely stop talking about it 😉

[hollow stream]

Oh definetely haha

[jagged moon]

How much btc you have, and conversion rate of btc to usd

[faint fulcrum]

hello

[devout palm]

oh ok

[jagged moon]

Func gives u how much u have in dollars

Ezpz

[viral fable]

I love programming

[faint fulcrum]

me too

[devout palm]

Rate i thought constant

[sick lance]

I like everything.

[split compass]

It's just counting in binary, unless you remember the magic number formula.

[sick lance]

But I like Osint, Malware and DF more.

[viral fable]

Don't the two connect in someway

[hollow stream]

They do a bit

But programming is different to cyber security

[viral fable]

Same here both fields are interesting and I enjoy doing them both

[hollow stream]

I will say that programming is used in cybersec though

[viral fable]

Like how different..?

[hollow stream]

Or so I think anyway

[split compass]

Can be, depends what you do in cyber sec.
Certainly an understanding of programming can help you find vulns.

[viral fable]

I get the feeling you're a Java developer

[hollow stream]

Cyber security is about exploiting flaws in systems, whereas programming is about creating the systems themsevlves

[viscid hill]

programming is making code, cybersec is breaking it

[jagged moon]

Like a builder and building inspector

[viral fable]

I like this one better

[hollow stream]

What makes you say that 😅

[viscid hill]

breaking it for the GREATER GOOD

https://tenor.com/view/superman-man-of-steel-gif-23391677

[hollow stream]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-greater-good-evil-funny-gif-5283257

[viral fable]

Your profile picture 😂 It looks as complicated as the language

[viscid hill]

hot fuzz what a film

[hollow stream]

I am a simple man

I like simple things

[hollow stream]

Yes noww

[viscid hill]

where is ur pfp from im thinking maybe like gmod

nah a bit older

[viral fable]

That ceirtainly does not look simple to me

[viral fable]

awww😂

[hollow stream]

It’s from a game called tropico 3, and my avatar looks like he’s been hit in the face with a pan

[hollow stream]

It’s simpler once you realise that most of it is boilerplate

[jagged moon]

El presidente

[viscid hill]

i know this game was fire

i can tell

[hollow stream]

It was absolutely fire

It was peak tropico

[viscid hill]

i wanna get back into city building games man

i remember i played a game called suriving mars a while back

maybe in 2020

very fun

[hollow stream]

Ah yeah I’ve heard about it

I played a lot of tropico in 2020 tbf

Instead of doing school haha

[sick lance]

I'm playing Krunker Strike because I'm bored.

[viscid hill]

krunker strike?

[sick lance]

Old web game, I play it on Discord.

[viscid hill]

we out here

[willow warren]

here i was thinking it was just counter strike while inebriated

[viscid hill]

1v1 me scrub

[viral fable]

Same here

[devout palm]

krunker io

[viscid hill]

What did u think of it

[viral fable]

But I think later than that

[sick lance]

Nah.

This is just a time waster.

I prefer MW3

[viscid hill]

what are u waiting for

wait are u mod

[hollow stream]

Wasn’t mw3 badly received?

[sick lance]

No, I'm a Community Mentor.

[viscid hill]

community mentor nvm

[sick lance]

Probably, I still enjoy it

[mossy river]

King Charles has cancer?

[sick lance]

yeh

[shell nova]

so it seems

[mossy river]

Crazy world

[boreal scarab]

@sick lance My baby is up and running!!!

Still gotta add 128GB more ram, and change both CPU's

And more drives.....

[hollow stream]

Cannot wait for another state funeral

Yet again

[mossy river]

You don’t know that yet

[clear jackal]

Yes, prostate cancer iirc

[shut hawk]

Not prostate

We don't know what it is, but it isn't prostate

[clear jackal]

Didnt he just have a biopsy on his prostate?

[shut hawk]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68208157.amp

It was discovered during that op

[hollow stream]

Strange times

But cmon charles step it up, your mum lived 96 so you can too lol

[split compass]

And the Ceph a bunch more storage after that into it 😄

[boreal scarab]

ceph?

[viscid hill]

is this a pc were talking about

128gb ram?

2 CPUs?

[boreal scarab]

Yah, not the original one I bought, but yah, 128GB, 2 Xeon's E5 2620 V4

Changing those to 2680's

[viscid hill]

How did u afford that man

[viral fable]

😂

[split compass]

ceph[dot]io

Learned about it around the same time I was doing stuff with min[dot]io
Decentralized storage clustering, sort of.

[boreal scarab]

https://versus.com/en/intel-xeon-e5-2620-v4-vs-intel-xeon-e5-2680-v4

[boreal scarab]

I got my ways 👀

Nah, it was only $400

[hollow stream]

It, uhhh

Fell off a truck

[split compass]

Hoping I can approved to "recycle" one of the Rome processors from work.

We scrap so much cool stuff 😦

[naive violet]

You can get cheap servers for less than that for an R530/R730 here

[boreal scarab]

We scrap laptops, nabbed some of those lol

[naive violet]

I paid like £150 equivalent for mine

[boreal scarab]

1U? 12 Drive bays? 5 or 6 SSD bays?

[naive violet]

2u 8 LFF bays, or lots of SFF bays depending on what you get

[boreal scarab]

http://www.hyperscalers.com/QuantaGrid-D51PH-1ULH-storage-server-1u-dense-ditribution-buy-Quanta-QCT-hyperscale-server

My bad boy

[shut hawk]

EOL?

[boreal scarab]

🤷‍♂️

Quite nice, I still gotta thank @hot cairn for helping me. Now just gotta change out those loud fans for Noctua's

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @hot cairn (current: #94 - 65)

[rapid merlin]

How do you guys download a flag from a Windows machine? In Linux I would start a http server using python, but in windows im lost

[sick lance]

wget in powershell usually works.

Like I told you ages ago.

[jagged moon]

Is an alias for iwr

[rapid merlin]

How can you remember that 😯

[glass nest]

Most of us here are robots.

and NaCl is...... salty about it 😎

[hollow stream]

I am a robot, wdym!

Beep boop.

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/jordi-baste-tv3-no-pot-ser-com-robot-gif-16057126

[hot cairn]

im debating moving my stuff over to ceph lol

[glass nest]

Debating with who?

[hollow stream]

Ok real question

[hot cairn]

myself and my sanity

[glass nest]

And which one is the Evil one?

[hollow stream]

How many people shout "I'm in" when they get the flag

[glass nest]

Maybe not 'shout'

[devout palm]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-8719645850520182314

[rapid merlin]

I didn't phrase this correctly

I need to transfer the flag from Windows To Kali

But windows machine doesnt have python

[devout palm]

Just copy the flag

[glass nest]

copy/paste?

[boreal scarab]

Not flag.... but when I forget my pasword lol

[rapid merlin]

forget the flag I cant figure out how to transfer a file

lol

[glass nest]

Look up the 'What the Shell!' room 😉

[hollow stream]

"I'm not in!"

[hot cairn]

Your never alone when you have the sound of whiny server fans

[rapid merlin]

I already have a shell, I guess python is needed to transfer a file from Windows to Kali

[glass nest]

There are other ways, and that room covers a few of them 🙂

[devout palm]

Esqy, might be a personal question but why did you leave leading the community? (Don't answer this question if you don't want to)

[glass nest]

There were some personal things. But I'm back now 🙂

[devout palm]

Nice

[glass nest]

Aye, i got a really nice welcome from the old crew when I came back 🙂

[devout palm]

Are they going to give your role back?

[glass nest]

That is up to them.

[devout palm]

Right

Ye

Role doesn't matter though

You're here

[glass nest]

Yep - Just like helping people.

[devout palm]

Same

[hollow stream]

Okay general question

How different is Windows exploitation to web exploitation?

[glass nest]

🫡

one is on Windows, the other is on the Web.

[hollow stream]

Woah, so insightful

Lmao

[glass nest]

I mean... youy kinda set it up 😄

[hollow stream]

I meant is it harder? How different is it?

[glass nest]

It's different.

Harder is subjective

I like web stuff, so havn't done much Windows, so it would be more difficult for me

[viral fable]

I don't get this

[glass nest]

see?

[devout palm]

One is an operating system, other one is an application

By default, obviously operating system is harder because it is bigger

It depends on the person's knowledge and skills though

[viral fable]

Uncle Esqy.. How long have you been in the industry if I may ask?

[glass nest]

In total? 2 years, and that was about 15 years ago 🙂

[rapid merlin]

In this room I found how to transfer a file from Kali to Windows, but I can't find how to transfer a file from Windows to Kali

What would you do if you had to transfer a file from Windows To Kali in a CTF ?

[lilac kestrel]

Hello THM family

[glass nest]

Copy and paste if you have a GUI in the room

[midnight hazel]

woah so gree

[rapid merlin]

just a rev shell

[devout palm]

RDP and drag the file into your system

[viral fable]

Funny

[mossy river]

Yeah no this is no where near me

[rapid merlin]

what if I dont have the credentials, do I add new admin user and allow RDP ?

[devout palm]

What is this for?

[lilac kestrel]

i will finish my exams this week , any machine u think its best to practices all things just to revise things i forget lol cause my brain is deleting space for exams 😂

Any suggestions

[glass nest]

Joel - i'm being for real. I'm a pretty open book on here 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Just for me I cant figure out how to get a file from a Windows machine to a Kali if the windows machine doesnt have python

[viral fable]

What exams?

[glass nest]

how are you in? SSH?

[naive violet]

SMB is good

[viral fable]

Sure... Maybe you just research alot because you sound like a pro in here

[naive violet]

FTP also, Windows has a client built in

[lilac kestrel]

Univ one its not same field i guess well i study Networks and Telecommunications , its in the field but not security

[glass nest]

Joel - I worked in digital forensics for a couple of years, and yup I do this as a hobby. And I may sounds like a pro, but far from it. Still learning like everyone here 🙂

[rapid merlin]

msfconsole

use rejetto_hfs_exec

set payload windows/shell_reverse_tcp

this is how i got in

[lilac kestrel]

I have my lab on GNS3 i test SSH there with multiple VMs

[glass nest]

if you are in Metasploit/meterpreter you can use 'download'

[rapid merlin]

im not unfortunately

its just a tcp rev shell

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/hearingaids-gif-10416883811819095944

[glass nest]

But as James has said, look at FTP and SMB

[lilac kestrel]

Any one here tryed before install kali on raspberry pi 5?

[glass nest]

(Anbd take notes 😉 )

[rapid merlin]

yep looking it up right now

[viral fable]

Sure what advice can you give to a beginner like me

[rapid merlin]

(im using chatgpt) 😂 😂

[glass nest]

Stay curious. Follow the learning paths, and enjoy it 🙂

[viral fable]

Oh I see.. Good luck in your exams

[lilac kestrel]

Chatgpt cant help with security 😂 i used it many times says its illegal

[viral fable]

Sure thing sir

[lilac kestrel]

But i did used trick question and helped like in enumération to bypass firewalls IDS

[rapid merlin]

Lol it can with basic commands tho

[lilac kestrel]

Yeah like for linux troubleshooting yeah i use it many times

Not all times

[near hawk]

Last time i was on was AoC and barely did it somehow still got this

[devout palm]

Woah

[glass nest]

Too much Windows 😄

[near hawk]

Need to do Windows exploitation more to get it up

[lilac kestrel]

Lol this giy will finish the hexagonal

Good job brother

[lilac kestrel]

Guy*

[glass nest]

Dammit, I don;t have access to Hall of Fame quotes!

[lilac kestrel]

Mine is nothing 😂

[hollow stream]

🥲

[lilac kestrel]

Cause im jot subscriber

Not

Im broke to subscribe 😀

Lol

But i do the free rooms they are cool

[lilac kestrel]

Rather then that i try on YouTube to leaen stuff

[devout palm]

🐺

[lilac kestrel]

Howling 🙂

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/controlmypc-cat-screaming-discord-gif-20582295

[glass nest]

Muiri might be a Werewolf, but we don't judge.

[rapid merlin]

Wait if Im NT authority\system, i could technically download something like Python to transfer the file easily right?

[near hawk]

Muiri is scottish, clearly a unicron

[lilac kestrel]

U can consider that im vampire.😂

[shell nova]

Unicron is right 😉

[glass nest]

Or use FTP, which is already on there.

[naive violet]

Not very stealthy

[lilac kestrel]

Yes FTP would be the best choice

[glass nest]

Werenicron

[pallid lotus]

I am summoned

[rapid merlin]

True, so FTP is the stealthiest option?

[shell nova]

yo

[pallid lotus]

No, you're gonna get caught doing that too

[shell nova]

not terribly, but better than downloading python

[glass nest]

Muiri, can you Hall of Fame this please :d #general message

[shell nova]

HTTP is probably better

[devout palm]

Muiri, right on time

[rapid merlin]

Whats the best option?

[naive violet]

Best is always situational

[split compass]

LOLbins == best bins.

😄

[hollow stream]

Hang on, did you make the upload vulnerabilities room?

[glass nest]

GTFObins for lyfe

[rapid merlin]

So what if the windows machine doesnt have python but im NT Authority\System

[devout palm]

Muiri was caught peeking into the chat

[split compass]

Will have: WMI, VBscript, Powershell, SMB...
Which one is going to be caught in any given environment will vary.
There is no perfect method.

[naive violet]

SMB is good for blending in to normal network traffic on a domain network at least

[shut hawk]

hehe I requested this

[naive violet]

Vbscript would hopefully get caught lol

[devout palm]

Hahahaha found tim's secret spell

Should've posted it on Christmas

[shut hawk]

Why is it that most internships want people currently studying for a degree?

[split compass]

And any method you use to determine what's being observed, may itself be observed.

Basically, at some point, you have to accept that you're exposing your self to risk.
FTP/HTTP can be read because they're not encrypted.
SMB to an external IP would be suspicious, and potentially blocked, but in smaller businesses with UPnP, it may be allowed through the firewall. (See Eternal Blue)

If you have time you might try to observe what normal usage looks like for the network and find a way to make your traffic look similar.

[split compass]

tax kickbacks

Sometimes grant programs.

[pallid lotus]

I did

A very long time ago

[naive violet]

Outbound smb is way more likely.
EternalBlue was inbound of course

[hollow stream]

That last challenge killed me haha

But it was very helpful 🙂

[pallid lotus]

Yeah. I regret that one

[shut hawk]

Would you mind elaborating on this?

[jagged moon]

Hehehe

[pallid lotus]

I mean, realistically you want it to be encrypted. Packaged into a C2 connection potentially. Transferred using an approved program instead ideally

[jagged moon]

DNS c2 comms ftw /s

[pallid lotus]

e.g., if support use AnyDesk just sign your own loader establish a connection and use that to transfer stuff

[shut hawk]

Chat room over DNS

[pallid lotus]

RDP Drive Redirection possibly too -- I haven't checked heuristics for that

[noble orchid]

Is it a good idea to do the red teaming path after I do junior penetration path

[jagged moon]

https://github.com/kognise/arpchat

[split compass]

Absolutely, and at the very least if you can't get out clean, you want to get out unknown.

[shut hawk]

hehe that was what I was trying to find!

[pallid lotus]

🤦‍♂️

[shut hawk]

Of course it's written in rust

[pallid lotus]

I mean, ideally you wanna be caught

[hollow stream]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-gif-25746875

[pallid lotus]

That's the whole point of a red team

But yes, indeed

[shut hawk]

~ Muiri was here

[pallid lotus]

Muiri is taking a break from fighting with iDRAC

Finally got the Proxmox server online though

[jagged moon]

Is for me?

[pallid lotus]

Only took a year and a half

Need to get the dog out and go shopping though. At 2230. That's gonna be fun

[split compass]

Depends on jurisdiction etc, but here, your employer is responsible for a portion of your tax, workers comp, canada pension plan, and employment insurance contributions.

I can't say to having specific knowledge about any given program, but programs exist to assist wages, allow corporate tax deductions for "educational" purposes, etc.

The only specific program I've ever interacted with was when I was coming out of College in 2009. Ontario government would pay something like $2/hr towards wages of current students or recent (less than 6months) graduates.

[devout palm]

Shops here close at 2100

[split compass]

Yes, but you don't want to make it easy on them 😛

[hollow stream]

Just upload youareanidiot

Ez

[shut hawk]

10:30?!

[shut hawk]

Interesting, thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @split compass (current: #54 - 121)

[pallid lotus]

Well, yeah
Bring your all, but hope you still get caught

[glass nest]

yes.. you'll be... fiiiine

[split compass]

It's great when you can say "I laid low for 3 days trying to see how I could get out without tripping an alarm, and you still got me."

[pallid lotus]

Hm?

[shut hawk]

Why the specific time?

[split compass]

Life

[pallid lotus]

Because it'll take until 2200 to get the dog out of her bed, then she gets a 20 minute walk at night, then 10 minute drive to shops

[shut hawk]

Ah fair enough lmao, gl

What breed?

[pallid lotus]

Cocker. There'll be pictures in here somewhere

[glass nest]

Scottish isn't a breed. Damn Jayy :p

[jagged moon]

[glass nest]

oh, you mean the dog..

[jagged moon]

Lol

[shut hawk]

Awhhh, really cute

Do you get much snow? Dog likes it?

My dog loves snow

[glass nest]

Hehe. We only get snow up on the moors. But it's ok, cos we bring our kayaks up and sled down the hills on it 😄

[hollow stream]

North york moors?

[glass nest]

Dartmoor in Devon 🙂

[shut hawk]

That sounds fun

[hollow stream]

Aaah fair enough!

[shut hawk]

Sometimes we get the kayak and turn them upside down using them as a slide

Good times

[buoyant tree]

anybody got a free glasswire recommendation

wanna keep looking at my traffic usage stats

[shut hawk]

What does glasswire not have?

[buoyant tree]

eh limits monitoring to 24h

[shut hawk]

https://sniffnet.net/

?

[buoyant tree]

yea seems good

ty

[stiff compass]

Cool thanks for sharing

[buoyant tree]

Hmm, i can't view apps that are using only the ips and domains if they got it

[rapid merlin]

Thanks a lot!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @split compass (current: #54 - 122)

[shut hawk]

https://safing.io/

[sand trench]

doubt

[shut hawk]

Using it for analytics

[sand trench]

privacy has not been easy for years and doubt a single product can change that

and no arch package makes it go flop for shadows usecase

[boreal scarab]

@jagged moon

[buoyant tree]

Why google thinking I in hong kong

Connected to a UK ip

location is off

[glass nest]

Unless your VPN is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally out of date 😄

[buoyant tree]

eh its updated mullvad

• looked up my IP

its in UK

confused about hong kong

[sand trench]

never mind there are arch user repo packages

but you gotta dig for them

[buoyant tree]

Hmm, not for me

Why is finding the perfect app for my usage so hard

I don't wanna do a developer move and code it myself

[glass nest]

because you are focused on finding a free solution with no strings attached.

[sand trench]

even if you find a paid solution they nearly always comes with strings attached

[devout palm]

Phew

I'm done with AD Basics

[glass nest]

A little short of your 800 word target.

[devout palm]

Is it too much for a note?

[glass nest]

If they're gonna be useful to you, It's the perfect amount

[devout palm]

Well i don't know, that's where the problem occurs

[glass nest]

no such thing as a prob... gah, I even hate typing it. They are 'Challenges'

[devout palm]

Fine

Hurdles

[glass nest]

Thats better, they can also be overcome 🙂

[devout palm]

Wow, there is a bunch of content here

Time to grind

[glass nest]

Good luck

[scarlet mantle]

thm > offsec

better community less bully mods and no money hungrygreed dishonest spree

also content is sweet loving to beginners that feel confused by the wild world and need someone to take them by their hand

[buoyant tree]

yay did 60 questions today and my mind isn't totally fried

[mossy river]

Deep fry it, 60 more!

[sand trench]

deep fry the deepfrier that you are deep frying your brain in using deepfrying batter to make it even better

[buoyant tree]

started it already

Should I do portswigger or keep doing THM

[scarlet mantle]

lvl 2 incoming i believe in u

[buoyant tree]

eh not doing on this acc

[scarlet mantle]

🔥

[buoyant tree]

Gonna reward myself tonight after doing so much studying with Alien 1979

@mossy riveru work at THM so u got any idea if THM will ever release thier own certification

[midnight hazel]

tasty

[left rivet]

"index=botsv1 sourcetype=stream:http dest_ip="192.168.250.70" http_method=POST form_data=usernamepasswd* | rex field=form_data "passwd=(?<creds>\w+)" | table src_ip creds" > "src_ip creds
23.22.63.114 pussy" this can't be real lol

[grizzled wing]

what?

[buoyant tree]

Went from feeling good to getting imposter syndrome

Can't get a rev shell on this daymn machine

[scarlet mantle]

ahahah

[buoyant tree]

Ah so got a web shell now

[scarlet mantle]

wp

[boreal scarab]

I already broke Plex

poggers

[olive flicker]

ladies and gents, how do i fix this error?

[boreal scarab]

Yummy

[molten sky]

i swore off plex ages ago

not a fan of their constant regression in the way of privacy

[molten sky]

idk what your error is but did you try acupuncture

[olive flicker]

my bad

gimme 5 min

[boreal scarab]

Yah, If this doesn't work, I'm swapping

Restarted the actual server to fix Plex misbehaving twice

[olive flicker]

how do i paste snippets?? Im a boomer

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-speaker-alarm-gif-15124610

[split compass]

Three 'back-ticks' before and after

[molten sky]

^

[split compass]

On a US Keyboard the backtick is commonly found sharing ~ one key left of 1 below escape

[molten sky]

if you need a better landmark it's normally three keys above the V key and four to the left

[split compass]

Markdown tables... shudders
So much work for so little benefit most of the time xD

[molten sky]

if you can't go to the left you can also go right until you overflow back around

[olive flicker]

what r back ticks

[split compass]

That's useful.

[boreal scarab]

And just like that, TrueNAS is borked too

https://tenor.com/view/weee-gif-22113548

[split compass]

Demonstrated by Hymnosi, described where to find on keyboard below that.

[molten sky]

the ~ squiggly line on the top left but without shift

[olive flicker]

i wanna smash my laptop I've been working on upload vuln for 3 days

yea

[split compass]

sends tea

[molten sky]

who needs a nas when you can just have 13 hard drives plugged in on the floor next to your pc

or
```
three in a row on the top and bottom of a big section to make one big code block
```

[split compass]

My brain still thinks in 1996 IRC, when I'm on discord x'D
Pictures make a much better description.

[molten sky]

irc > dc

i still use irc

so much less clutter

[split compass]

I haven't used it in a couple years, been too lazy to set my bouncer back up since I stopped maintaining my VPS.
Once I set-up my home lab, will be back on again.

I miss my 2600 peeps.

[molten sky]

yeah it's very community specific nowadays

most places are unfortunately on discord or slack

slack communities are weird

[split compass]

irc[dot]2600[dot]net [#]telephreak

[molten sky]

slack is good for work but as a community?

hey guys join my minecraft community on Microsoft Teams!

[olive flicker]

C:\Users\jeffy\Pictures\Screenshot 2024-02-05 192341.png

fuck i didnt do it right

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/image-perms-flex-gif-22350600

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Feb 6, 2024, 12:34 AM

[split compass]

Well, you probably see how it works now though.
Trial and error, good teacher.

[sage wolf]

h

[molten sky]

ik there's a couple clients that combine irc and discord but technically that violates discord ToS I believe

[olive flicker]

verify what my friend?

great thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @coarse totem (current: #146 - 45)

[molten sky]

iptables > firewalld/nft

it's unfortunate but a wrapper is enough

[molten sky]

Queen's Death Confirmed

[mossy river]

I have a lot of thoughts, ChatGPT entertains them

[frigid badger]

During an encryption event of a database, is the data encrypted individually (by column & row in the case of SQL) or as a whole or is that dependent on the type of DB?

[mossy river]

Oddly specific question 😄

[frigid badger]

Well...

[frigid badger]

If the data is encrypted individually, can there be a mechanism in place to limit the number of "write" actions without further authenticiation?

[mossy river]

I'm not entirely sure I understand your query

[olive flicker]

whats /bin/sh: 0 cant't access tty:job control turned off? your help is appreciated

[frigid badger]

Goteeem

[mossy river]

https://maxat-akbanov.com/how-to-stabilize-a-simple-reverse-shell-to-a-fully-interactive-terminal

[olive flicker]

thanks friend. I'll have a look

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mossy river (current: #6 - 1142)

[boreal scarab]

100% safe

[boreal scarab]

It was a DNS issue....

https://tenor.com/view/id-like-to-resign-resign-relinquish-i-wanna-quit-quit-gif-15567850

[sand trench]

WHEEEEEEEE progress

[sage wolf]

checkliust

[sand trench]

checklist for fairphone 5 support from calyx os android custom rom

[feral spoke]

v organized v effecient

[sand trench]

anyways it is now the times where shadows go meep moops while they blast beep boops to sleep sloops

[scarlet mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/685171460804837397/1204208544849731604/1707169768216.mp4?ex=65d3e59a&is=65c1709a&hm=4de1ee92ab0568c32e7fd5ca1aa83c338da1e1cd688e2ebba7f11ea81b17b43c&

me when i hear meep moops beep boops to sleep sloops

[valid mauve]

Gooood morning fellow nerds

Night @sand trench!

[scarlet mantle]

shadow may i dm for important secret inquiries when u'll wake up

[olive flicker]

still cant get rid of the error: /bin/sh: 0 cant access tty; job control off. any help would be appreciated

[proven quartz]

Is that a thm box? Have you upgraded your shell?

[olive flicker]

I'm using pen monkey's reverse shell

yes its a thm box

[proven quartz]

Then go to #room-help or #room-hints and say what room it is 🙂

[crude stump]

everytime i see your pfp it looks like a salt shaker

[dawn pewter]

where can i write !vpnscript to get the troubleshooting script

[proven quartz]

I don't know what percentage alcohol your salt has 😛

[proven quartz]

#community-announcements message

[crude stump]

i like my salt 196 proof. i wanna go blind drinking it

[proven quartz]

Yeah salt helps with that

[magic loom]

People got thoughts on Packt for their videos and books?

[proven quartz]

Packt have a lower quality standard than a lot of training/book providers. I've also seen complaints about difficulty cancelling a subscription if you have one. Depending on what you're going for, there are much better training providers

[magic loom]

I was looking at Humblebundle and they have the Network Mastery collection, which looks to be full of video courses around certifications.

[proven quartz]

I've never heard of the provider of those courses so can't comment but I'm guessing there are excellent learning materials already out there from other providers

[magic loom]

No problem, that says a lot. Thank you!

[buoyant cairn]

Yo can you guys fix the voice channel everybody is server muted ‘FOR WHAT REASON????

[boreal scarab]

Amazon: "Pay us $3 more a month to get rid of ads ontop of your prime"

PiHole: "Haha, ads go BRRRRRRR"

[sinful moon]

lol I had a great idea to test automating one of the after hours server reboots for my on-call tonight. Cue 1h 20 extra minutes of waiting for Windows Update after their window began.

Typically I start checking and installing updates about an hour prior. Made the "mistake" of automating installing updates right on the top of the hour instead, then I was kinda locked in

But hey if we can tune this well enough in our new RMM, it will save a lot of time and hassle. Just very much needs eyes on to validate this stuff to begin with

[molten sky]

you should migrate all your clients to manjaro

[sinful moon]

lol no, I'm not even a huge fan of Manjaro

[molten sky]

same

[sinful moon]

if you're going to use Arch based distro, use one that uses the actual Arch repos and doesn't have a history of "whoops the cert on our site/repos expired, just roll back your clocks"

...multiple times lol

[molten sky]

that's just job security for you

[sinful moon]

they also used to recommend partial upgrades with pacman which is a big nono

[molten sky]

still working on that burn windows to the ground tool

[sinful moon]

Good luck! Yeah was a neat looking script

[molten sky]

been trynig to figure out how to update microsoft store packages without prompting the user

holy hell it sucks

[sinful moon]

Ugh I can imagine

I think winget can do it, but typically that does need to be ran as a logged in user

[molten sky]

that's the problem -- it's to install winget

[sinful moon]

freaking lol, ouch

I thought there was an easier way than that, but I kinda took it for granted winget was installed on my newer systems

[molten sky]

trying to see if i can throw something together with c# but probably just gonna say screw it and move on

[sinful moon]

Yeah I don't blame you too much... but besides that indeed winget is lovely

[molten sky]

so many ways to install it manually, but every single one that doesn't use the ms store loses automatic updates

which i'm not a fan of

[sinful moon]

Ah that makes more sense, yeah I could have sworn I'd seen other methods

[molten sky]

added permanent removal and blacklisting of edge and onedrive tho

so we're getting somewhere

[sinful moon]

Do see a lot of orgs moving to Edge and often OneDrive as well, but I personally vibe with your choice

[proven quartz]

I noticed Edge has a new feature where it automatically steals all your tabs from Chrome on startup

[molten sky]

yeah the edge tweak is going to remain optional and not automatic -- but onedrive is getting ripped out automatically

easy to remove tweaks tho as needed

[sinful moon]

They ask you for permission to do so on new installs at least

[proven quartz]

I don't use either but it was a funny read 😛 I'm sure they'll have some kind of anticompetitive suit against them, a few small fines

[sinful moon]

Not trying to justify Edge, I’m sure never touching it myself besides to install a better browser, but I can see why orgs are appreciating GPOs and stuff without downloading more admx for Chrome and Firefox tho

[molten sky]

when winget can install any browser i'll use, idec about that

i just go straight to winget when i can now cause screw those 17 pages of bullshit when you launch edge for the first time

[sinful moon]

One can hope lol, this has all happened before and it will happen again cue Battlestar Galacica (2005) music

[proven quartz]

In a previous job they had an in-house tool to manage your browser choice

[proven quartz]

They're remaking BSG again too 😛

[sinful moon]

Interesting, yeah Windows N ironically does break a lot of features

[sinful moon]

Hah indeed

[proven quartz]

I think they're finally out of ideas 😛

[sinful moon]

Personally I'm curious how Babylon 5 reboot will go with J Michel Strazinski at the helm... even if it's going to be on The CW lol.

But JMS and WB just released "Babylon 5: The Road Home" animated movie which I loved tons

lol indeed, at least Babylon 5 has some reason to come back

[proven quartz]

They already remade Babylon 5. It's called Deep Space 9 😛

[sinful moon]

BSG I've got more than my fill of

Shh, also come on it was concurrent with B5

But I am all about DS9 as well c:

[proven quartz]

Yep, totally coincidental 😛 DS9 is onme of my fave series

Plus it inspired my interest in Jambalaya #873642346762350592 message

[sinful moon]

Agreed for sure, but so is B5 lol. It's fine to love both

Damn, looks great!

[proven quartz]

Yeah of course. I'll just have to try to find time to fit in rewatching all the things I like

[sinful moon]

Hah for sure, we're just on a B5 kick since the HD Blu-rays came out on Dec 5th and we're wrapping up our re-watch

Better than the ealier HBO HD release they had thankfully but yeah still difficult with how much video tape footage they had to work with

[proven quartz]

Oh excellent! I'll have to out it on the list. I'm also trying to read more books this year

[sinful moon]

But heck, at least B5 got a pretty decent 90% film/HD + 10% upscaled VFX shot/combined shot release

Still more than DS9 will ever get sadly, but TNG kinda set the bar too high

Awesome, yeah I need to get back into my reading. I'm, you guessed it, a huge fan of classic scifi in particular

[tough kayak]

What time zone is the kick your career start webinar in?

[sinful moon]

btw highly recommend "What We Left Behind" the DS9 documentary, they did HD remaster select footage for that and it looks stunning

[proven quartz]

Yeah it's good they can give some old stuff a bit of care and attention like that. TNG/DS9 were always favourites to watch growing up and I kinda compared everything to them

I am trying to read more classic sci fi but I have a few books I'm aiming to reread before the summer too

[sinful moon]

Nice, yeah grew up with them, B5, Sliders, and plenty of other 90s scifi and vibes. Good stuff

[sinful moon]

Yeah can't blame you. Personally I'm huge on Foundation series (read it in release order imho). Still haven't seen the Apple TV+ show though

But uh, that's a bit of an undertaking. Easier to start with original trilogy of books and then expand when you feel like it

[proven quartz]

I have the 15 Robot/Foundation books lined up for later in the year. The tv series is incredibly well conceived and makes for spectacular viewing

[sinful moon]

Nice, I do have a trial from my Apple TV, maybe I'll give it a spin tonight if I don't get more distracted lol

But yeah I'm huge on combined Robot/Foundation universe. Asimov is for sure one of my faves, but I can admit his writing is pretty matter of fact and dialog/idea driven. No colourful prose there lol

[proven quartz]

Haha well I won't distract you more tonight. It's just gone 3am and it's about time I went sheep counting and z hunting 😛

[sinful moon]

Hah totally fair, still 10pm here. Talk to you later!

[willow garden]

Just wanted to introduce myself, new here but excited to join the community.

[proven quartz]

Yeah Asimov is known to be a little bit dry with his prose but he did write hundreds of science books as well 😛 I have no intention of getting through them all. Feynman is my favourite academic/author 😛

Anyway, great to see you as always, have a good night

[boreal scarab]

Test

Sweeeeet. Finnaly remove my PiHole

[sinful moon]

Welcome! We're glad to have you c:

[willow garden]

Glad to be here! Heard about this from someone in my classes, thought id give it a shot! Wanting to learn as much as I can haha

[whole karma]

It's worth it, if you're interested in it.

[sinful moon]

Yeah great platform for this! Helped me tons when I needed to update my infosec knowledge professionally

[whole karma]

It's helped me get into bug bounty hunting.

[willow garden]

For sure, I'm currently in Information Security and Intel, so anything that could potentially help me grow even more is definitely something worth my time.

[sinful moon]

Awesome, yeah you can likely jump into the rooms and paths you are most interested then. Although I'd be lying if I said I didn't learn some unexected bits from simplier rooms I assumed I knew everything about

[whole karma]

lol same, mostly OSINT stuff

[sinful moon]

yeah learned of a couple great OSINT tools I use often from THM for sure

Heck DNSdumpster.com and similar is often just a good sanity check/peek doing defense as well

[whole karma]

That's new to me, I'll def look into it.

[sinful moon]

Yeah for sure one I got from THM. They just do DNS subdomain enumeration all the time so you can get the passive results

[willow garden]

I'm going to assume yall are light years a head of me, but where's a good place to start?

[sinful moon]

along with other relevant DNS info like TXT records and etc

Kinda depends, sounds like you have some experience already. I came into THM with that mindset and started just doing some rooms I was interested in before jumping into the Learning Paths

[whole karma]

I've started this path 2 years ago. I'm currently in college for a bachleors in IT & Networking w/ a cert in cybersecurity

[sinful moon]

I'd just recommend trying one of the Intermediate level Learning Paths, and drip back down to easier if you're lacking something. Typically a room will say what kind of knowledge/pre-reqs there are and link out to them

Ah nice! Yeah I'm more like self taught from the 00s lol

[whole karma]

nothing wrong with that

[sinful moon]

For sure, it was a wild time and it sure wasn't as easy to see a pathway into infosec professionally as it is now, let alone all the learning resources we have now

[willow garden]

If you don't mind me asking, what type of careers are you guys in, if any? Its been a journey after getting out of the Military and I'm hoping to start job hunting in the future

[boreal scarab]

Anyone run PiHole here? I could've sworn there was a section you can download the config/ adlists from the PiHole... need to grab em and put em on my TrueNAS

[sinful moon]

Double checking the learning paths, some good paths are marked as "easy". I'd pick one that fits what you're looking to learn. Most are either strongly blue or red team focused, or a bit more purple for applicable to both

[whole karma]

Currently, bug bounty hunting and looking for an IT job 😅

[willow garden]

What's bug bounty hunting look like haha? Never really heard of it before

[boreal scarab]

Found it, nvm

[sinful moon]

I sorta do it all due to small business things. I'm at a very small Managed Service Provider. So I'm one of two sysadmins, sole linux sysadmin, sole devops person, sole infosec person, sole compliance person, and more lol

Not nessessarily in any order lol

infosec is my main jam at work though

[whole karma]

Mostly looking for cross-site scripting exploits, bad authentications, stuff like that. Mostly use Burpsuite and firefox to test with

[willow garden]

Dang! Sounds pretty legit though

[sinful moon]

Honestly I don't have enough time in the day for all of my roles, but again... that's small business for you lol

[willow garden]

True

[boreal scarab]

When you go from Rasp Pi running PiHole to Dual Xeon's, ooooooh the speed on which it fetches the lists is amazing

[willow garden]

Never really heard of this but doesn't seem too bad, is it enjoyable or nah

[whole karma]

it passes the time and i like it

[sinful moon]

Hah fair, and yeah for ZYN's info there's extensive rooms on Burp Suite and OSWAP top 10 (web vulnerabilities)

[willow garden]

That's all that matters tbh, just need to find something you enjoy doing everyday, which is what I'm trying to figure out

[whole karma]

very true, its where i got my start. After that I noticed www.portswigger.com has a free "academy" there to better learn how to use burpsuite. So you might wanna check that out as well if you're interested.

[sinful moon]

Agreed, I've not dipped into that but heard nothing but good things. I've been meaning on giving it a try

lol if nothing else I use Burp extensively after SSH tunnel to then Proxy my traffic over to Foxy Proxy from my virtal private server. To view these THM rooms and etc locally (VPS is my attack box)

and conveniently keeps my proxied traffic as the scope already

[whole karma]

that is very interesting. I never thought of doing that.

[sinful moon]

Yeah I do the same for THM RDP traffic (sans Burp step), just bind the ssh tunnel to like 127.0.0.1:13389 and RDP doesn't question it

[whole karma]

huh

[sinful moon]

remote THM brought to my local machine, good stuff

yeah it's interesting but rewarding having an pentesting server that's external and has nothing to do with your network (part of why I opted for this)

[boreal scarab]

I can hear myself think........ servers are so loud

[sinful moon]

lol in the server closet? Thankfully our home server is pretty darn quiet unless it's under tons of load

[boreal scarab]

No, sitting right next to me

[sinful moon]

Circulating fan in our home office is louder than our server under nomal load. Heck even some Optiplexes are louder due to tiny fans lol

[boreal scarab]

It's not in its perm spot yet, still troubleshooting stuff, and still needa upgrade the CPU's. So it's next to me sitting ontop of a 2003 server, which a 2006 server is sitting ontop of, and the 2016 Quanta is sitting ontop of that

3 and 6 are just collecting dust, kinda a makeshift shelf XD

[sinful moon]

Ah fair enough, I've got 2015ish era tower server so kinda built for plopping in a small business and letting it do its thing without much noise

[glossy portal]

Level 7!

[sinful moon]

Congrats!

[boreal scarab]

My Quanta 2016 is very quite nice. Loud, but gets the job done. Hate that transcoding takes a little bit on these 20's

[sinful moon]

Do direct play lol

[boreal scarab]

But too tired to deal with heatsinks, CPU's and thermal paste to change em.. tomorrow

[boreal scarab]

Plex app on TV no like that

[sinful moon]

It depends on the TV for sure, but yeah dedicated streaming devices will do much better typically

Also ethernet connection can help if your TV has one

[boreal scarab]

I can access the plex app directly via IP, and loads things up just fine, but plex app... app, on the TV says "Fuck you, have an error"

Even upped the processing power on that container, still having issues

[sinful moon]

Samsung?

[boreal scarab]

1. TV is not near a jack. 2. FireTV

[sinful moon]

1. Not running insane Ethernet cable runs all along the house, exposed... suprised lol. 2. Intergrated in the TV? That's very unusual

That being said even Chromecast with Google TV should do direct play just fine (potentially given an Ethernet jack)

But I did kinda go all out with Apple TVs since I was happy with them and they knock any local media out of the park perfomance wise

[boreal scarab]

Well, if I want direct to server..... lets see.
1st level, ran up to second, then ran half the house and hit the TV

https://tenor.com/view/no-let-me-think-nope-no-way-hmm-no-gif-22904160

[sinful moon]

iPhone SOC in there at all. I confirmed they sell them at a loss lol

Sounds like you don't have long enough ethernet is all... snaking up the stairs lolol

[boreal scarab]

Guess I could do a browser, hit the IP direct, and that should help

[sinful moon]

I legit did that back at my mom's house lol

[boreal scarab]

Since it's not going through Plex

Do I change the CPU's now?

UGH

[sinful moon]

What even are proper home cable runs, lol. We have floor rugs for that

[boreal scarab]

Nah, don't have cotton swabs

[boreal scarab]

Next house, that's the first thing I'm worrying about, the ethernet runs, and those better be 6A runs! I like my speeds!

[sinful moon]

lol back in the 00s I had "cable modem in the basement, but need router in my upstairs bedroom" vibes

[boreal scarab]

I have a 10g nic on this server and desktop, moved a 10gb zip from desktop to server, while it was doing other things and using the disks, Would say 10 seconds to move it

[boreal scarab]

Totally not me.....

[sinful moon]

lol

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/espresso-classy-pinkies-up-sips-tea-sipping-gif-7250101

[sinful moon]

Yeah I was the only one in the household who had a use for Ethernet at the time. So I need all the ports I could get... from my baller WRT54G with custom firmware lol

Goodnight sweet prince, I love you so

[boreal scarab]

Linksys, I remember when we had that as our wifi name

[sinful moon]

freaking lol, thankfully I took charge of the home network at a pretty young age

even if that meant I had to call the ISP every time "no the issue is clearly on your end, I've already troubleshooted this"

Not that business ISP accounts are fun, but at least you get to skip most of the piddly troubleshooting lol

[boreal scarab]

I didn't lmfao, I think, to my memory, mess with our network till my college years, could've probably done it with our past provider, but little hazy on that

[sinful moon]

Yeah kinda lucked out there, was great experience

[boreal scarab]

I know for a fact, I took charge with this provider, I said fuck off to the ISP router and got my favorite company router. Asus!

[sinful moon]

Ugh, I still remember the day they wouldn't let us own our own Cable Modem anymore

I was a bit pissed lol. Held a "free" speed upgrade hostage behind "you gotta use our cable modem or else"

No it was already DOCSIS 3.0 compliant (newest then) mine was more than compliant

[boreal scarab]

Oh I HATE that..... "Have you tried turning it off and on again, are there lights, pull the power"

clears throat I'm an IT technician, this is not a me problem, this is a you problem. Handle it.

[sinful moon]

But I'm sure they didn't want people doing [will not mention here] to them

But who cares, the router is where the real fun was at

running dd-wrt and OpenWRT back in the day was a huge game changer

[boreal scarab]

Has AsusWRT Yup, totally

[sinful moon]

Never had an Asus router honestly ever. But fair stuck with Linksys/Cisco basically until I moved in with the SO where we have all Unifi wireless gear

Typing on an Asus laptop rn though

[boreal scarab]

Same, we had the ISP router for the longest time, but then switched to my current Asus router, cause.... I felt like I had 0 control of the ISP router, didn't know what version that rouetr was running, had so little control on things

bleh

[sinful moon]

Yeah not sure how you stood for it for so long

I was not even happy about ISP cable modem, but basically no choice there these days

btw 2004 protip, no sadly despite how stackable the WRT54G and other Linksys devices of the time are, stacking Linksys cable modem under WRT54G will result in overheating lol

[boreal scarab]

Me being anti-social and reading the doc for using your own that says if you have X, you need to call this person.... support role got me to not be anti social

Ended up not needing to call anyone lol, just needed a MoCa adapter and we were good

[sinful moon]

Totally fair, I just get indignant about that kinda of network "intrusion" by a third party I will say

[boreal scarab]

Wanna hear a joke?

[sinful moon]

They just want as much control over your network, to enable their crappy "lets let others use your Wifi with their ISP account" stuff

[boreal scarab]

Port Forwarded TV's setup by the ISP technicians.

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254765

[sinful moon]

what ever for lol, wild

[boreal scarab]

No fucking idea

[sinful moon]

Then again back in my day we indeed just have huge cable boxes and there was no IPTV in sight

[boreal scarab]

I changed the router, routed the rj45 to WAN from ONT, Coax from ONT, which had fiber going into it, to MoCa adapter, to RJ45 to LAN, and TV's were fine

No port forwarding at all needed

[sinful moon]

Lucky having any fiber at all

some day

[boreal scarab]

Yah, fiber from street to ONT. Fun

[sinful moon]

Yeah especially wild

Most US rollouts are Fiber to the curb at most unless you're a business account

[boreal scarab]

laughs in business account

[sinful moon]

lol them be expensive in the US, ISP and cell provider rates are stupid here

But if nothing else, laughs in dual redundant home ISPs with failover. Good vibes

[boreal scarab]

reeeeeeeeee

[sinful moon]

secondary ISP is dedicated work from home connection, but we can failover to it if our primary personal connection goes down

[boreal scarab]

My old job's CEO, in which, I, a level 1, handled first hand, cause his main ISP went down, and some network gear fried.... mind you, I'm not a network technician, I'm a desktop support technician. I had to change his business equipment with consumer equipment to get him back online.

This guy had 4 fucking failovers.
Main ISP, Another provider ISP, Mobile Sim, Mobile SIM. On a...... tf they call those

Like you put the SIM cards in them and they act as a failover

[sinful moon]

Yeah, we have many of our businesses setup similar

Primary, Failover/Secondary, Cellular fallback

Do love that tiering of things going wrong. Same sorta thing with our servers

[boreal scarab]

Fuck, that's gonna bother me... the name of the device

[sinful moon]

Windows Server really borked? Check ESXi/vSphere. VMware ecosystem borked? (uhoh) Check Dell iDRAC lights outs management

[sinful moon]

Cradlepoint? (this may be a branded term but it's what we use)

[boreal scarab]

THANK YOU!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sinful moon (current: #41 - 178)

[boreal scarab]

That was it!

[sinful moon]

No problem, yeah afaik very popular cell fallback routers

[boreal scarab]

I can't find the model we had, but it was that

[sinful moon]

We've actually got two client locations who are solely StarLink lol

Not fun, but they're so remote that it almost never matters

[boreal scarab]

We didn't..... then again, idk, we had like 7k employees

[sinful moon]

Fun setting up Internet Outage alerts for them and other weird exceptions. Typically have to poll the internal VPN connection if applicable since no external ping (and typically not static publically anyways)

[buoyant tree]

heya Ellie

[sinful moon]

Heya, I'm staying up too late talking about work things, after working late on-call

[buoyant tree]

thats usual for you

[sinful moon]

but the later bit is partially my fault lol, tried to use our new RMM for scheduled server maintaince and um, yeah we're still testing the policies is what I'll say

[boreal scarab]

I just handled the hardware, no config on my end 😄

This plugs here, that plugs there, done.

[sinful moon]

added extra hour and 20 minutes to my expected completion

[buoyant tree]

can't hurt to test things out

also watched Everything everywhere all at once, a good sci-fi comedy

[sinful moon]

lol totally fair, yeah I kinda do it all but usually higher level server/network/infosec stuff at work

I'm completely remote so I don't get to plug anything into anything sadly lol

may be part of why i'm happy having this home server which is similar to what we use at work

[sinful moon]

Very glad to hear it, yeah that was one of my recommendations and fave movies of the past couple years

Title is also my job description lol

[buoyant tree]

yea, raccacoonie is a good part of the movie

although ending disapointed

[sinful moon]

I'd say you may want to re-evaluate this movie when you're a bit older

[buoyant tree]

its in my plex library

[sinful moon]

Will likely hit differently, especially if commedy (it for sure is that, but...) was one of your main takeways

There is a lot going on in that movie thematically

[buoyant tree]

rewatch things from time to time

[buoyant tree]

too much

[sinful moon]

Yep totally fair

[buoyant tree]

the picture slideshow in super fast speeds impressed me the most

[sinful moon]

and yeah I did a couple re-watches and gleened more each time

Easily my fave movie of the 2020s thus far

[buoyant tree]

like to change enviorments and costumes over a hundred times for a portion that is 3 seconds of the total movie

[sinful moon]

Yep, it's an insanely well done movie, and the deserved their literal handful of Oscars and etc

[buoyant tree]

also started Alien 1979

[sinful moon]

wait you didn't start with it...?

That's my fave of the entire franchise

[buoyant tree]

I just started watching the franchise

this is my first movie

[sinful moon]

Oh I thought you said you'd seen more, but I may have been thinking of Terminator franchise or another

(which btw Terminator has awful HD masters, huge shame)

[buoyant tree]

first few terminator were bad

then it got good

then bad

[sinful moon]

Terminator 1 is neat but more like low budget action/horror. Terminator 2 is legendary and amazing and as old as me. Never seen newer than that

But sadly first two films are slathered in digital noise reduction to the point everyone looks like they're made out of wax. Huge huge fumble, not sure how they let it happen

[buoyant tree]

wait I thought you were older, 2001: A space odyssey old

[sinful moon]

Film fans want the film grain

[polar spoke]

oh god

[buoyant tree]

a lil grain is good

a lot is too bad

[sinful moon]

Nope, I was born in the 90s

[polar spoke]

4k remasters out here completely destroying original quality by "denoising" and "Smoothing" and "upscaling"

kills me every time i see it

[sinful moon]

lol I guess you can't watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre given it's 16mm film

[buoyant tree]

speaking off, i have to denoise 4,000 pictures tonight (4k raw)

[sinful moon]

To be fair vast majority do it right, Terminator 2 is just one of the most egregious examples of doing it wrong when everyone else kinda has the right idea

[polar spoke]

don't overdo it lol

[polar spoke]

ehhh, i'm hesistant to say the majority do it right

[heady nova]

g'eve

[polar spoke]

i've seen a LOT of horrible bluray releases recently

it's awful

[sinful moon]

At least for classic films most do, but fair I'm going out of my way to read the blu-ray.com reviews and etc before I pick something out

[polar spoke]

right

i'm very picky on my releases because of this

they are slaughtering some films in the name of slapping 4k on a bluray disc and selling them

[sinful moon]

Agreed, very much the same. I've just mostly gotten lucky in that my fave films are often given amazing remastering treatments

[polar spoke]

there's also the issue of audio and color and recutting

[sinful moon]

But I can not disagree with that unfortunately

I'm a huge geek about video presentation and remastering efforts so I always need to know lol

[polar spoke]

a great example of this:

the matrix was an absolute tragedy

[sinful moon]

Yeah they did make it better for 4K UHD-Blu ray but there were several issues with color timing, like where do you pull from

[polar spoke]

the different releases might as well be different films

[sinful moon]

just everyone agreed the DVD and HD Blu-ray green tint was a disaster

so if nothing else, they did color time it to be more blue as intended

[polar spoke]

yeah stuff like that is really annoying

it sucks that it's so common that people don't even know too

[sinful moon]

I'm just glad the film makers are more often getting involved with these

[polar spoke]

same

[sinful moon]

Agreed :c

[polar spoke]

hopefully some of the awful remasters get a version that isnt so bad lol

i've got a handful that i'd love a better version of

[sinful moon]

Heck there's still not a single 4K Wes Anderson movie because he personally approved nearly every HD master

Even for the newest films interestingly enough

[polar spoke]

yeah, I appreciate what some people are doing for releases

but it also does kinda suck when we dont get a release because they dont want to go through the trouble

[sinful moon]

Helps when he's mostly working with Criterion Collection, but yeah I'm also excited for them to continue with their 4K releases

[polar spoke]

criterion did a bad release recently didnt they?

i saw some one complaining about it

[sinful moon]

Yeah but for sure rather have "done right" rather than a studio half assed attempt lol

I'm sure they had some, but obvs typically known for greatness for sure

[molten sky]

do i take a tylenol and keep working or go to bed before midnight for once

[sinful moon]

lol go to bed at midnight isn't a bad idea

[molten sky]

hey dolphin you around

you lurkin

[sinful moon]

If it helps I sure have dolphin and dolphin-emu installed on my box rn lol

I think dolphin has SEA kinda time zones however, so it's a tossup if they're around

[molten sky]

yeah i think it's time to call it

after dealing with windows for this long functioning is painful

[sinful moon]

Sounds good, nice chatting with you as always! I'll probably start winding down myself

Yes Windows on any length of time is painful lol

Group Policy does a lot to help me enjoy it better but ehh, its still Windows lol

[molten sky]

seems that i've debloated enough where the cpu idle is averaging 0% excluding the qemu agent and task manager

just gotta get memory down below 2gb

[sinful moon]

Some of that is Windows will just use as much RAM as it sees fit based on system hardware in my understanding

although obvs never going to get down to 400MB "heavy" DE idle states of Linux lol

[molten sky]

yeah that's the annoying thing about windows vms and shared memory, it just doesn't release --- but in this case it's somewhat easy to tell what's "just cause it can" and what's actively being used

[sinful moon]

There's that page trimming feature in VMware which may help, but I've only needed it on old Workstation Pro and was more linked to performance benefits

[molten sky]

never noticed -- my windows vms say bios time is 0 seconds

also 0 ram slots

[sinful moon]

lol

I have more questions and comments but I'll let you get to sleep! lol

sane time to do so c:

[molten sky]

coincidentally, discord just crashed

so ‘night

[sinful moon]

lol take it as a sign indeed. G'Night!

[buoyant tree]

Hmm Ellie what's ur favorite remaster

movie one

[sinful moon]

I've seen several just stunning remasters

2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner: The Final Cut, Jaws are very high up there as near reference grade material

[buoyant tree]

blade runner wasn't that for me

[sinful moon]

Jaws in particual has amazing special featuers about all the work that went into the remaster, great watch

[buoyant tree]

haven't seen Jaws tho

[sinful moon]

Yeah pace is far too slow for you I'm sure. You may enjoy it more when you're older

[buoyant tree]

it wasn't the pace

it was just boring

[sinful moon]

lol

[buoyant tree]

2049 was a lil better

[sinful moon]

That one I had issues with the pace actually lol, but they got the right vibes and did it justice

same director as modern Dune Part 1 which is also obvs grreat

[buoyant tree]

been meaning to rewatch Dune

[sinful moon]

btw a recommendation for you which I haven't given yet, watch Knives Out and Glass Onion. Highly recommened modern murder mysteries/thrillers

[buoyant tree]

first time I watched it I was beyond sleep deprived

[buoyant tree]

I have

[sinful moon]

Yeah Dune is a great time

and glad to hear it

[buoyant tree]

Glass Onion is trash tho

[sinful moon]

Disagree, it's quite nice

[buoyant tree]

I don't remember it sadly

[buoyant tree]

doesn't capture what the Original did

[sinful moon]

It didn't have to, and he specifically didn't want it to carry any silly subtitle linking it to the first

but Netflix insisted of course

some day Netflix will let me buy it on blu-ray, until then gotta wait lol

[buoyant tree]

if it was a stand alone it would have passed as 'ok'

[sinful moon]

It's a fun spin off

but I've never heard this viseral of a reaction to Glass Onion, honestly suprised

[graceful thistle]

I kinda have to agree with AIO there

[buoyant tree]

quite surprised about that also

[graceful thistle]

I couldnt even make it past the first 45 mins or so

[buoyant tree]

Even on reddit its constantly bashed

[graceful thistle]

really disliked it, hehe

[buoyant tree]

the original one was beyond great

[sinful moon]

I can agree it's not as good as Knives Out, but I mean what were you all expecting from Netflix original vs full theactical release?

[graceful thistle]

watched The Menu the other week though which I really enjoyed

[sinful moon]

I thought it was pretty alright

[buoyant tree]

Hmm, I didn't understand the point of the movie so haven't watched it

[sinful moon]

The Menu is fun but I'm in no hurry to see it again.Nice concepts

[buoyant tree]

what happens in it spoiler free

[graceful thistle]

ehhh dinner?

😄

[sinful moon]

"Gordon Ramsey" on an island, dinner, and fans

even that's putting it too simply

There's just a dark element to it all is what I'll say

(obviously not literally Gordon Ramsey, but you get my meaning)

It's a good nuanced movie and worth a watch

[buoyant tree]

added it to my watchlist

Although Aliens and 2001 keep me wondering about the INSANE quality

[graceful thistle]

hve you seen Parasite yet?

[buoyant tree]

nop tried to but clicked off in a few min

[graceful thistle]

damn

your loss

😄

[sinful moon]

Yeah it’s a good one, I’d say stick with it

Watch Oldboy or Snowpeircer and similar if you want to get more into Korean cinema and aren’t sure

[buoyant tree]

pls not another category to delve into

[graceful thistle]

I mean Parasite is just rly good though

they won a bunch of awards too

[sinful moon]

AIO has a fleeting attention span tho is the only thing to keep in mind. I will be the first to admit that Parasite didn’t grip me in quite the same way as other Korean films but I enjoyed it a good bit

[graceful thistle]

yeah

maybe a more interesting movie when you're a little older

[buoyant tree]

yea I did try and watch it when it was released in 2019

[molten sky]

oh hey it’s dolphin

[graceful thistle]

hello

[sinful moon]

It’s just an interesting film and good social commentary about insane wealth disparity in South Korea

[graceful thistle]

🐬

[buoyant tree]

I was like 10

so even less of a attention span

[sinful moon]

Oh heck

[graceful thistle]

:/

[molten sky]

just an fyi DOOM#777 is a bot inboxing weird ads

[sinful moon]

I forget age difference at times, I’ll just say you’re doing quite well at the moment

[graceful thistle]

yeah Parasite is not made for 10 year olds. ll

[molten sky]

(got a few the last 24h but that one is still present)

[graceful thistle]

oh can you send me a screenie in DM?

[buoyant tree]

I watched the conjuring when I was like 7 (dad)

thats defo not made for young people

[graceful thistle]

I dont really mean like, it's too scary or anything. Thematically it just doesn't make much sense to a kid

[sinful moon]

Conjuring is easy to understand as a kid, Parasite is more high level sociopolitical themes and etc. helps when you have had more time to stew in modern society

[buoyant tree]

yea except the jumpscares kept me up at night for a month I think

yea may watch Parasite if I have time

[sinful moon]

Also Conjuring is a bit of a joke horror wise, yeah most modern horror movies take the easy way out with cheap jump scares.

I will at least give them points for 70s vibes and etc. My SO has a morbid fascination with those movies in that they’re fun and not very good

atmosphere and building tension are how you actually do it imho

[buoyant tree]

Also just remembered a movie I wanted to ask you about, Bill and ted

[buoyant tree]

any good horror's

Stopped watching alien for now since I need to focus on it

and i can't atm

[sinful moon]

Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure is rightly Excellent. No complaints. Bogus Journey is so so and I’ve never seen it. The modern one I’ve seen and it’s fun but nothing special except for fans

[buoyant tree]

hmmm

Also Ellie

good game or not

[sinful moon]

It's a good game but I've not read many review of the port. iirc this is based on Persona 3 Reloaded from the PSP Personal 3 Portable which removed a lot of the "walking around in the classrooms in 3D bits" in favor of 2D dialog trees.

However P3P did add features exclusive to that port. Typically superfans would recommend Personal 3 PES addition for PS2 instead which added many of those features to the PS2 version...

But despite knowing all that I'm no Persona superfan, I've just dabbled in the games ever since owning P3P on PSP

[buoyant tree]

oh k

[sinful moon]

I'd recommend Persona 4 Golden on Steam if you're new to the franchise tbh

[buoyant tree]

although how's the combat in thet game

[sinful moon]

As with Final Fantasy, these don't often have direct story links, just thematic links

They're turn-based traditional JRPGs, but with some fun gimmics and dungeon crawling which is atypical

[buoyant tree]

yk the type of combat I like, arkham, hifi rush, spider-man

[buoyant tree]

oh then not for me

haven't tried turn based games yet