homebrew

[lean crow]

It doesn't

That these are all ranged weapon attacks completely changes the balance

[frank leaf]

Vro, show me the calcs, unless you're pulling some shenanigans with close range Ranged weapons + Summon Minor Elementals, I don't think this is beating SWS

[void jewel]

Chromatic orb does not scale by 1d8 for each additional level.

It scales much more than that, because it becomes much more likely to bounce

No? 5 attacks is bad value for a level 5 spell slot. That's very poor damage compared to what a level 5 slot can do otherwise.

Especially assuming you can do 2 without spending any resources, 5 boosted ones for a fifth level slot is kind of a waste

That's entirely reasonable scaling btw

I may remind you, you can't focus fire this damage. It needs valid targets for each attack that aren't the first.

Meanwhile, fireball is a third level spell that just deals 25 damage to everything in the aoe on average, which in most situations would significantly outpace this.

As a reminder, here some other things you can do with a fifth level slot:

-way more damage
-entirely exclude enemies from an encounter with no save, functionally killing them instantly
-microwave something
-many many more

So the upcast here is not problematic, even with riders

[lean crow]

Ah, my math definitely wasn't mathing

[quick bison]

Hello. I was wondering if the gunslinger class is homebrew since technically I bought it. Let me know what you guys think.

[lean crow]

Cheesing this spell would probably rely on features or weapon properties that impose conditions.

[sweet path]

Okay guys, how will you balance a fairy if I make her tiny?

[lean crow]

By making her tiny, IMO.

The tiny size doesn't impart a great deal of benefits.

[sweet path]

It does, she can squeeze to almost any hole, she also can fly(that's a fairy). So it is pretty substantial

[lean crow]

You're easier to force movement on and you lose carrying capacity

[sweet path]

True.. true

[lean crow]

Holes only exist if the DM lets them.

If a party has a tiny adventurer, it's good to reward efforts by that character to scout and explore in ways that their size makes possible, but for the most part they'll be going the same places any other character can go.

[sweet path]

Well, yeah. But also she is being able to use a lot of stuff as half-cover and a lot of half-cover stuff for third quarter cover.
And not letting any holes to exist will make it very apearant you have a problem to deal with tbe size. And the feeling will just suck

[lean crow]

True, cover is quite powerful

[sweet path]

True. I agree, that's my approach

[lean crow]

I think limiting certain kinds of weapons is a natural tradeoff for being so small

[unique parrot]

Yeah I didn’t catch that

[sweet path]

I thought of maybe impose strength reduction.
She will not be martial eitherway because she can't wear medium or heavy armor(unless she want to be flykess). So reducing strength will highlight how small she are

[lean crow]

Is this your character or one of your players' characters?

[sweet path]

Yeah, maybe heavy weapons. It will go well with the no heavy armor stuff

[sweet path]

Both

[unique parrot]

It’s considered 3rd party, despite D&D Beyond hosting it. They really don’t make things that clear.

[lean crow]

Ah hmm

[quick bison]

Thanks

[sweet path]

I create homebrew as a dm, and also want to suggest that homebrew to my dm

Btw nuclearghandi is hilarious name lol

[unique parrot]

I wouldn’t go with strength reduction
There’s already a carrying capacity penalty for size

[sweet path]

Hm.. true true

[lean crow]

IIRC in the current Critical Role campaign, the fairy player elected to drop down to 3 Strength for the sake of roleplaying the size, but that was the choice of one particular player.

[sweet path]

Yeah, I got inspired by it tbh

[lean crow]

I'm not super into extending point buy but....I could see going down to 6 Str to buy another point in Dex, or down to 3 Str to buy 2 in Dex.

[sweet path]

So what I thought, because being tiny and a flying character is very strong(althougb not being able to wear medium or heavy armor is a restriction indeed),
I thought that on top of the carrying capacity and pull capacity being halved,

To-
Make any use of heavy weapons made with a disadvantage/can't use them at all

Maybe reducing STR(there is a valid argument to be made it is too much)

Limiting the size of holes she can sqeeze through to 1ft

[sweet path]

That's actually can be awesome.
It will also be thematically accurate, because fairies are dexterous.

But we need to remember they already get +2 and +1 as is

[lean crow]

As I understand, squeezing through a 1 foot hole is around the RAW limit for tiny creatures.

[sweet path]

The thing is, I don't want her to be overpowered, yet I don't want her to feel bad to play

[sweet path]

True. But she can squeeze to a size smaller than her, by the rules.
Which means she can squeeze by RAW to a space as small as 0.25ft(with the restriction penalty) Which is very strong. Maybe she can squeeze to even smaller size than 0.25ft

[lean crow]

Tiny creatures occupy a space of 2.5x2.5 feet

There aren't sizes smaller than that, but if we follow the steps for medium and large we can say about 1x1 for the next size down, and that's what you can sqeeze through as difficult terrain.

[sweet path]

True but because there isn't any size smaller than them.. than by the wording of the rules, it means any size from 0-2.5ft is considered tiny

Edit: I accept you assumption though that it 1-2.5

[sweet path]

Yeah, but even saying she can sqeeze through 0-1ft as difficult terrain, is very strong

It means no hole can stop her

[lean crow]

It's definitely in the realm of DM fiat.

[sweet path]

Well, saying she can't is solving that problem imo

Or saying it is in the dm discretion to allow, but at default she can't

fairy magic

I also think of changing the fairy magic.
Fairy fire may be thematic, but enlarge/reduce was given to compensate on them being small instead of tiny.

And druidcraft is not really so thematic to fairies. Maybe Driads..

So I think of replacing druidcraft with dancing light,
To represent the lights fairies use to lead travelers astray.

Maybe minor illusion as well? It will be very strong though. And she is already very strong.
So yeah, removing a spell and changing a cantrip and that's it. It can be nice

[frank leaf]

Counterpoint: she literally cannot grapple

You can't grapple creatures more than one size larger than you

Or are they not martial?

[sweet path]

Most fairies will not be heavy martial, they will be rogues or monks at best.
Because they can't use medium or heavy armor

[frank leaf]

Monk not being able to grapple is pretty painful

[sweet path]

True

Not being able to grapple is a big penalty either way. She also can't push creatures around

[frank leaf]

Especially since that mean she can't even taxi as a supportive monk

[sweet path]

Like, shove

[sweet path]

Hahahaha

Yeah

Hmm
So you say it is not broken? I still think it is

[frank leaf]

I hate to bring up Pathfinder, but they have some funny rules for tiny characters

[sweet path]

Do not hate it. I love pathfinder costumizability

What are they?

[frank leaf]

Yeah, so do I, but I know it can get tiring to hear so many things you can do to improve DND by copying it before you just feel like you should play it instead.

First is lowered reach to 0ft, meaning you have to be in a creatures space to attack, moreover the added benefit of being able to be in an enemy's space is fascinating

The second is reduced fall damage, which is real life accurate lol.

[sweet path]

What benefits are there?(sorry for being dumb here)

[sweet path]

True! By how much it is reduced? And is there a certain height you gain none?

[frank leaf]

The distance required before you start taking iirc is doubled, and after that the damage is halved.

[frank leaf]

You can Hide/gain half or even Three Quarters cover behind allies or even oblivious enemies

You try hitting a Chihuahua sized Goblin behind a Tarrasque lol

So mostly gaining defensive features in exchange for less martial combat power

If they're a Rogue, there shouldn't be an issue to her rly

For better or worse

[sweet path]

Yeah that completely makesense.

So, let's assume we apply all of this changes.
Let's summarize them:

She is a fey(no darkviaion. She grew up in the feywild. There is always sun above ground there)

Tiny.

Sqeezing to 1ft. Under it will be able to do ao with dm discretion, with the restriction penalty.

Cover - can use tiny objects as half/cover. Half cover-> 3/4 cover. 3/4 cover -> full cover.

Space - take 2.5ft by 2.5ft, can use allies as cover(small/medium as half, large as 3/4)

Reach - need to be within 0ft to attack (In which point does she attract attack of opportunity? When leaving 0ft or 5ft?)
Cannot use enemies bodies as cover if they are aware of them. But can use them if they are not aware.

Flight - not being able to wear medium/heavy armor while flying.

Need armor to be tailored to her size.

I am thinking about restrictions to weapons as well

What do you think?

[mild cove]

-5 to attacks with heavy weapons in addition to the normal disadvantage and disadvantage with two-handed weapons?

Could even go as far as disadvantage with everything other than light weapons

[potent lantern]

Hey folks 👋
I’ve been building a drop-in forest guardian / cryptid monster system for 5e — more of a persistent threat + behavior system than a one-off fight (think escalation, intimidation, night pressure, retreat instead of death).
Curious if any DMs would be interested in testing or giving feedback on something like that in their own campaigns?

(Reposting cause I put it in the wrong chat lol)

[mild cove]

It really does depend on the class

[sweet path]

Maybe it needs tailored weapons, like it needs tailored armor

[sweet path]

I see fairies use rapiers in my head though

[umbral dust]

If you have a doc send it here, I can look through it and try use it in my game next thursday?

[potent lantern]

Putting it all into a word right now for ya (have bits and pieces everywhere) may I send ya a DM?

[umbral dust]

Yeah sure

[potent lantern]

@umbral dust sent

[nova basin]

Night pressure like interrupting/debuffing long rests?

[potent lantern]

And then some

Fully admit the document needs work @umbral dust has pointed some stuff I should flush out but the more input for idea the better I can bring this thing to life

[nova basin]

Okay well elaborate

You can drop stuff in this channel

[frank leaf]

Can't use weapons/equipment not tailored to Tiny creatures, equipment tailored to them is half the cost tho.

(PF2e doesn't do the half cost thing, but it feels right given how she'll have to find someone to make new gear for her after starting equipment)

[frank leaf]

Also, opportunity attacks required them to leave 0ft, yes

[potent lantern]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ki0sokXQNom9YbfVNMl33Gqd2ZxxjfrpieuKIkyFi6Y/edit?usp=sharing

[sweet path]

I see it being same cost because of the unique craftsmenship required to create them in the first place.
Unless it is done by fairies that are proficient with crafting such equipment

Okk I am starting to write the list of changes hahaha

(Not here, I mean, in a doc)

[potent lantern]

@nova basin lemme know what ya think

[frank leaf]

Ok, counterpoint, they have to have unique craftsmanship for every one of their customers in the myriad of races DnD has

You wouldn't say the same for winged races or horned races for armor would you?

[sweet path]

But fey are not a race that live in the matetial realm, so craftsmen do not learn to create such tiny equipment. Unlike winged or horned races like tieflings.

If it's the feywild then I'll agree. There probably are much craftmen for fairies there, considering they basically the elves of the feywild(while eladrin being the humans of the feywild)

Btw, are we doing their speed 20ft and flying speed 30ft?

[umbral dust]

Are elves and hags not Fey?

[sweet path]

Elves no. Hags yes

But I don't know in terms of mechanics

I think both considered humanoids

[umbral dust]

Fey can and do live in the material plane if it helps

They just mostly originate from the feywild

[sweet path]

Not according to lore

Most fey may visit the material realm, not often though

But they will not live there

Eladrin maybe exception

[umbral dust]

Hags have lairs in the material plane do they not? I may be wrong

[sweet path]

I think most hags have "lairs". Like, basically they have a place the connect with their layer in the fey wild

[umbral dust]

Oh fair enough

[sweet path]

Hags are fey creature. Mechanically I think they are considered humanoid

But I am not sure let me check

So, they are considered a fiend

But they originate from the fey

Banishement banish hags to the fey I think. Because that's their home realm.
Same with eladrin. Even though eladrin does not have the fey condition.
Eladrin are unique because they live within the fey but are not really a fey creature themselves, not like a satire, hag, redcap or a fairy.

Regarding fairies - fairies sometime come to prank mortals but they don't really stay in the material realm permanently.

[sweet path]

Also, even if they actually make a lair in the material realm, I think its the same as fairies. They come to there to do deal with mortals/eat them or whatever. But their permanent home is in the fey

[nova basin]

Seems fine except for the exhaustion on fail by 5+ and paralyze on fail by 5+

Not getting any rest at all has its own exhaustion rules already

And the roar paralyzing is probably a little much

[potent lantern]

Yeah I need to test it out/get more feed back on that aspect

[nova basin]

Theres also the issue that the players cant positively interact with the system, only negatively or have the system interact with them

[potent lantern]

I could see that argument, I see the point of it as almost if the party presses the children or gets to close to somthing they shouldn't the DM could use it at there discretion

[nova basin]

Unless someone has specifically comprehend languages, nobody can talk to these guys bc they arent beasts and dont have a learnable language

[potent lantern]

Gotta add that in more, I have a gifting system/forest interactions system in want to implent that I didnt explain well/enough in that document

[nova basin]

Leaving offerings and following boy scout rules is cool and all, but it doesnt have an obviously tangible result

Being able to talk to these seeminlgy natural creatures would help fill out the world and fantasy unless youre looking at these more as a force of nature than a part of it

[lean crow]

Spent the last hour or so drafting a nymph/dryad race and I'm realizing why there aren't any good ones already out there.

[nova basin]

Being natural, they prpbably arent monstrosities anyway, since monstrosities are specifically tainted/changed to not be natural creatures

[potent lantern]

The point is they cannot speak to them its the feeling they get being around/in the presence, and id like to throigh in some stuff like the firbolgs Speech of Beast and Leaf, druids etc being able to have some sort of interactions/ benefits to calm etc

[lean crow]

You can't really run a dryad PC without some enormous player investment.

[potent lantern]

Its a mixture of both, which im loving the feed back this is giving me lots more ideas/info i can implemt/improve on so please dont take this as me arguing just wanting to flush this out 😎

[umbral dust]

I second this. The rules for calming them down aren't fleshed out as much as the pissing them off is

[potent lantern]

Copy that, found my project for the evening 😎

[nova basin]

I think the system has its core as too cold and unfeeling to function as a believable natural force

The kids are apparently curious, but never enough to interact openly

[potent lantern]

Would love some feed back on how you guys would like to see that flow or some ideas I could worl with to implent

[nova basin]

The mother is caring and observant, but has no defensive/support capabilities

The alpha has some feeling to it, but only in agression and combat

[potent lantern]

I did also add to the bottom of the document too that one could run one sasquatch that has the stat block of alpha but has all the traits/interactions of all members to make it easier

[sweet path]

Yeah dryad is hard. Also, how will she leave her tree?
Nymph is easier to thematically excuse to a campaign.

[nova basin]

A natural pack leader is generally the tactical anchor, not the point, and wants to risk as little injury as possible

[umbral dust]

I definitely think rewriting some systems to be simpler and follow how the cryptids are 'meant to act' like derezz is saying definitely would be good

[potent lantern]

Copy that

[nova basin]

In nature, predators takw significantly less risk when it comes to possible injury to themselves or their unit because you need to be healthy to hunt, gotta hunt to eat, gotta eat to heal

Any injury that stops your primary hunting strategy is a death sentence without support

Prey animals on the pther hand onlg care about surviving, bc the plants arent gonna run away

Break all my legs but as long as I can eat and reproduce I'm good

[lean crow]

My approach was that increased time spent away from the tree accumulates debuffs that require additional resources to offset, but at this point the nymph's natural anchor point is making up a majority of the rules for the species.

[potent lantern]

Okay so what I gather is

Flush out the the gifting system/player interaction system to lower threats etc

Then with the sasquatch them selves develope them a bit father for interaction?

And this in lamest terms?

[umbral dust]

Personally i'm not sure if it's an amazing idea to debuff an adventurer for going too far away from a point for too long

[nova basin]

I think it makes sense to have the force behind the pressure be interactable, especially if the party has a ranger, druid, or otherwise naturally inclined member

[potent lantern]

Copy

[lean crow]

Yep, and that's pretty much the central issue.

It discourages adventuring.

[potent lantern]

Now with this how would you recommend I make it flow better

[lean crow]

The core concept behind nymphs makes them awkward adventurers. A very fun idea for a character, but not one that a player wants to deal with the daily consequences of.

[sweet path]

Yeah.. it basically the ranger problem but with an actual impossibility.

They are great for npcs though

[nova basin]

Make the rest save be no rest instead of granting exhaustion, bc losing rest already likely will, and just remove the hard fail condition from the roar

[sweet path]

Even though that according to lore, normal mortal seeing a nymph will die from the sheer beauty of it hahaha

[umbral dust]

I suppose you could just make up a reason that the dryad can wander? Perhaps it carries a piece of bark from its home tree or is mutated and detached from an anchor point. Although I concede I don't know ANYTHING about dryad lore, making up a reason why it can wander seems like the best idea

[potent lantern]

@nova basin could you send me a dm with a bunch of what your thinking/input if you dont mind? Dont want it to get lost haha

[umbral dust]

Maybe it carries its tree around, which is actually a tiny sapling

[nova basin]

Rather not, I can drop a tldr

[nova basin]

Or it carries the actual whole tree around and uses it as a greatclub

[potent lantern]

Not sure what that is but would love it if it helps me

[nova basin]

Barbarian dryad

[lean crow]

At that point it kinda just feels like cheating, and you may as well just have an extra-fey-flavored elf or perhaps a genasi.

[nova basin]

Too Long; Didn't Read

[umbral dust]

If the core issue is that the dryad fundamentally cannot travel, remove that obstacle. What's bad about ut being an extra fey flavoured elf if it has its own unique abilities?

[sweet path]

That's awesome! That can actually work.

Carrying a bark is a problem because a dryad is connected to the main body of the tree and can't wonder off from it.

But carrying sapling solves it.
Even though dryads are spirits of ancient trees, so there should be a reason why a sapling has one

[potent lantern]

Oh yeah sure @nova basin

[lean crow]

It's not a bad character idea. Just not one that merits a separate mechanical species.

[umbral dust]

Wall-e character incoming

[sweet path]

Because it goes against the entire flavor of what a dryad is.
A dryad is the spirit if a certain tree. And only that tree. She will die if the tree dies.
They are the spirits of ancient trees.

[potent lantern]

Now to be frank @umbral dust @nova basin im no master dm etc havnt been doing this my whole life etc so I may be missing some rules/races/ideas so I appreciate the help a ton here 🤟

[lean crow]

I'd love for a party to build such strong bonds with a dryad's grove that one of the dryads chooses to risk their life helping the party with a quest.

[umbral dust]

I suppose its main race concept could be keeping the tree alive? Theme its abilities around the survival of the tree? Levelling up is just the tree growing lol

And it carries its tree around as a little sapling

[nova basin]

Or a sapling dryad trying to find a suitable place to start a new grove

[sweet path]

Well, I see it going wrong in so many ways hahahaha

[nova basin]

Too convoluted for what would prpbably end up as "another elf but with druid spells this time"

[umbral dust]

Fairs

[sweet path]

But yeah, dryads can't really wonder off from their trees.

Ruining dryad lore just for another elf will be a shame
That's what makes them unique.

But maybe a dryad doing the plant teleportation spell to her grove, opening portals from plants around them to escape to her grove in times of need

[umbral dust]

I'm just not so sure you could have fun playing as a dryad if you play it by the original lore

[sweet path]

That's why they are not a playable race though

You can have treants if you want to play a tree

Xd

[umbral dust]

I jumped into this assumed someone was trying to make one LOL

Was js throwing my ideas in the ring

[sweet path]

Hahahaha
Well, if you knew the lore you would've known why no one tried/tried and failed

[umbral dust]

Fair enough

The more you know

[lean crow]

I was trying and I've come to the conclusion that it's just not something that can be done w/o massive player and DM buy-in to a particular approach.

[sweet path]

Yeah.
But man, having a dryad grove as a base can be amazing

I think my idea can be unique if they actually earn enough of the dryad favor

[lean crow]

I like what I have but it's just too much stuff for a species.

[sweet path]

Being able to call the dryad through a bark she gave them, and her using plants around them to use plant teleportation back to her grove

As an emergency escape

[nova basin]

Aight so basically

• make the squatches beasts instead of monstrosities
• have them speak a learnable but rare language, probably sylvan
• adjust the rest and roar saves like we talked about
• add more mechanical storytelling to the mother and alpha statblocks
• justify the alpha being so magically defensive bc why does it have magic resistance
• find a way to make it advantageous for the party to not kill the squatches. Even if they drop to 1 and retreat, a lot of parties are gonna make sure the threat is gone for good, and chasing a big creature isnt that hard

[potent lantern]

Thank you!

[lean crow]

Any mechanical support for positive interactions would be a plus

[nova basin]

You could def have a dryad as a dmpc

[sweet path]

^again, you'll have the problem of travel

[nova basin]

No like

[lean crow]

And the problem of having a DMPC.

[sweet path]

^yap.

Npc is best. Good npc

[lean crow]

Can be done well, often is not

[sweet path]

Brennen is doing lady Venessa amazing tbh

[nova basin]

Plot happens and the dryad dmpc gives you a big ol piece of bark that you can activate once a day/week/wtv and make basically a magic turret for the dryad to shoot through without leaving

Think portal gun but plants

[sweet path]

That's cool.

I approve that idea, it's the offensive version of the plant teleportation idea xd

[umbral dust]

I swear there's a high level druid ability/spell that allows you to teleport between trees?

[sweet path]

Yes

[potent lantern]

Now I do have an aurora borealis/ northern lights system ive built/been therorising to add to campaigns could/should I add that into this to justify the magic resistance? Or is that then to many systems to keep track of cause there is a few already?

[nova basin]

You could still have that

But at that point you only have to make the combat mechanics for the artifact, and wing the utility/rp effects

[sweet path]

Hahaha true.
Probably for high level campaign, or mid level one(around lvl 10-12( they will get it

[nova basin]

Plot doesnt need mechanics

[sweet path]

Man I feel at home in this channel hahaha

[nova basin]

Thats more worldbuilding, completely up to the setting

[potent lantern]

Fair probably best to leave it out already got some work to do hahaha

[umbral dust]

Remove magic resistance and instead give him resistance to non silvered attacks maybe?

If you still want him to have a resistance

Makes more sense than he can just tank magic attacks

[potent lantern]

@umbral dust Fair point @nova basin any counter argument?

[umbral dust]

Also probably flesh out the whole roaring and retreating thing - does he run on his turn or does he immediately just disappear when he hits 1hp? What's stopping the party, whose turns are all before the alpha's, from just hitting him again and killing him?

[potent lantern]

Not to play devils advocate just for input is all 🤟

[umbral dust]

Have a look at all the statblocks tbh. There's a lot of undefined stuff. "AOE Knockdown" - what save, what range?

What does 'weapon damaged' incur?

Also consider like derezz said giving them a more broad language like sylvan so that players aren't forced to learn sasquatch just to speak to sasquatches without magic

[sweet path]

Ok, I finished the v1 of the homebrew fairy race,
Anyone want to check it out?
(It is a doc file)

[potent lantern]

Loved that last one hahaha makes sense

[umbral dust]

Just look through your whole doc while making your changes, and if anything isn't clear then make it clear. Ask yourself if you could give this to someone else and have them run it cleanly with no questions

[sweet path]

I have some more ideas regarding stats penalties and bonuses but I am still contemplating on those(it sounds sick though xd)

[umbral dust]

Send the link here!!

One of my players wants to play a fairy

[potent lantern]

Okay think i have an idea how I can do that aswell

[sweet path]

Ahhh I am so happy if I'll be the one to help someone play the best race in fantasy

[sweet path]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TgYPYzPVi18ymeF0nLHnon17obQSYxeqIFJUBgYkD4Y/edit?usp=drivesdk

[umbral dust]

You need to share it as anyone with the link can view

[sweet path]

Done

[umbral dust]

I actually quite like it besides 0ft range

It makes sense why but i can imagine that being a headache

And also how do polearms work lol do you have 5ft range

[potent lantern]

@umbral dust @nova basin last question before I go to work on this should I develop them as a family, or just a single sasquatch, or should I develop both options out so dm can use as they see fit

[umbral dust]

I would develop them as individual roles rather than a family dynamic, allowing dms to slot their own creatures into each role

Keep the same mechanics just change the name from 'alpha' to something line 'guardian' or something, same for the other family names

[potent lantern]

Copy

[umbral dust]

Because when I think cryptids, I think like wendigos or creepy monsters first rather than families and stuff

[potent lantern]

True, does add a different side to it though🤔👀

[umbral dust]

Agreed, but unless your system is specifically for sasquatches it should be as malleable as possible

Further, not all cryptids are nuclear families, so it could be possible for one creature to fill multiple role slots in one group of cryptids

[sweet path]

Hmm..
I didn't thought about it.
I guess so hahaha

The polarms will need to be tiny for them to use it

[umbral dust]

I think just for ease of play you shouldn't change reach

Because i can imagine it would become quite irritating to have to be in the same tile as somebody else to attack them

[sweet path]

Tbh I agree

But if so, then using others as cover will also be out of the quesiton

If you understand what I mean

Because both are based on the "within the same space" principle

[umbral dust]

If a person is in the line of fire of a ranged weapon attack of which you are the target, you gain 3/4 cover instead of the usual 1/2?

[sweet path]

I don't think so

Only of he is large in size

[cedar mica]

Attempting to make a homebrew version of dnd based in "the city" from project moon, anyone have ideas on how to implement this?

[umbral dust]

I mean like if you're a fairy, that could be your ability

You get extra cover

[cedar mica]

Also, hello

[sweet path]

Hello!

[sweet path]

Sorry I can't help, I know nothing about this show

[sweet path]

She does. When she try to take cover

Half becomes 3/4, etc.
Ahd she can use tiny objects as half cover

[umbral dust]

Ah nevermind im tweaking

Forgot that was in there

[sweet path]

But small and nedium creatures considered half cover, so unless it is large and higher it will not 3/4

[cedar mica]

It's ok 🙂👍

(it being a show was a good guess, yet it's a book and game series)

[sweet path]

So in that instance the "line of fire cover" rule just doesn't add anything to the fairy.
But I don't think it will add another quarter of cover

[umbral dust]

In RAW, an ally being between you and an attack grants half cover. Maybe that the fairy's ability could be that small/medium creatures grant you ¾ cover, while huge and above grant full? Might be overtuned

[sweet path]

Overtuned you mean op? Or too weak?

[umbral dust]

Op

[sweet path]

I think it's op

Yeah

[umbral dust]

Yeah

Not too sure

[sweet path]

That's the reason I will not do it xd

She will be unkillable

[umbral dust]

I just don't think that 0ft range is a good idea lol

[sweet path]

Yeah, I probably remove it

[umbral dust]

Fairs

Tbh I think even just a fly speed and being able to fit through small holes is fine enough if you really strip it back

[sweet path]

Together with being able to use unaware enemies as cover.

Likez you still can attempt to do it but it will be a normal dnd action with dm ruling rather then in the race rules

[umbral dust]

However the cover rules are interesting

[sweet path]

You can't be tiny and just don't be able to use smaller cover

It doesn't make sense

[umbral dust]

I'm saying they're interesting

[sweet path]

Yeah I know hahaha

I explained what was my logic behind it

[umbral dust]

Yeah fairs

[sweet path]

So, I thought of -4 to STR and +1 to dex

[umbral dust]

I honestly think everything you have now is fine besides change the reach

[sweet path]

(On top of the +2/+1 you get)

[sweet path]

Yeah me too

[umbral dust]

I'm not the person to ask when it comes to that tbh i'm buns at balancing stats

A -4 feels a BIT much but yeah what do i know lmao

[sweet path]

Hahaha well, it is very strong race

I probably even change flight

So it will not be as walking speed but rather just 30ft

And walking speed be 20ft

And any addition to speed will be added to flight as well. But the base speed will be low

Well, I didn't add restrictions on heavy weapons only because they already need to be made to her size, so it is a small weapon

Its doing same damage though

[severe trellis]

So I made this as a kidna growing weapon thing, one you can get at any level, but it can get stronger over time and I wanted to know yalls thoughts on it and what do you think would be a good condition for it to grow.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18JsYrL6dgNtvdP4i6sk4bDAVpSPlm4C0vdEqxyDUURA/edit?usp=sharing

[sweet path]

The idea remind me the weapon from stormlight archive, you know, the sword of szeth

[severe trellis]

No idea what that is, but cool

I mean the flight is only at legendary level you know...Super high level usage.

[sweet path]

But maybe I am too harsh idk..
Others may have better opinions

[severe trellis]

That sounds unfun Zim

[sweet path]

Well, maybe.

[severe trellis]

Also Zim

a weapon having spells isnt uncommon, like at all

[sweet path]

Shrug

[severe trellis]

not talking rarity lol

[empty nest]

How high should the HP pool be for a golem made of crystals for a lvl 5 party of 4?

[severe trellis]

thank you for the input though

[sweet path]

I guess, I am playing at low level campaigns. So the balance is different xd

But I deleted it, because it was bad advice apparently. I had no intentions to do so

[nova basin]

What size

And does it have any resists/immunities/healing/other defensive features

[severe trellis]

No no, it wasn't bad advice! I'm glad you were interested enough to say it

Its just not the direction I wanna take the weapon is all

[empty nest]

Large
As for immunities, I had it be immune to spells and magic since the crystals absorb them, and the normal resistances constructs have

[nova basin]

WOAHH

Is this a boss

Or are there gonna be multiple of these

[severe trellis]

Hey Drezz, are you good at working with making statblocks and stuff? I am new at it and I wanna build something up

[nova basin]

Not particularly

I can spitball but I'm not great with specifics

Statblocks should be stress tested before serious use tho so specifics have never been too much of a concern for me

[severe trellis]

Right right

[nova basin]

My specialties are subclasses and feats and sometimes items

[severe trellis]

ok

mind giving my item a looksie? It might be too strong like zim says I was told it was comprable to dragons wrath stuff though

[nova basin]

Oka6

It's probably too much at rare, a little much at vr, and about right at legendary

This is gonna dwarf every other magic item the party gets in terms of combat efficacy AND rp relevance unless you give everyone other items with the same issue, at which point you overload the game with mechanical plot

Its similar to dragons wrath weapons in that they scale by rarity, but its stronger at every level

[severe trellis]

Gotcha, scale back more for rare, and a bit more at vr?

[nova basin]

The syntax is also off but thats not a central issue

[severe trellis]

What if I removed the +1 from rare and just kept the damage bonus?

the extra d6 I mean

[nova basin]

It'd be a d6 weaker than a flametongue with a better dmg type and spells and an aura

Rare is a +2 weapon or flametongue or +1 with a minor effect or narrow use case

This is a wide variety of spells with bonus damage and a very good aura, even vs non fiends

I say the aura and the damage bonus at rare, add +1 to hit and spells at vr, and keep legendary as is

[severe trellis]

Alright I can go with that

[nova basin]

You could switch the spells and aura if you think that fits better for the theme

Up to you

[severe trellis]

I like the aura coming first

Should I order it like

Aura

Bonus Damage Table

Spells and spell table

Transformation

or Bonus damage table before aura

[nova basin]

Damage table first

[severe trellis]

Also, do you like the idea of the weapon and think it does the concept decently

[empty nest]

Yeah, mid level boss for a crystal cavern

[nova basin]

Okay that makes more sense

But keep in mind that this entirely invalidates the more popular of the character archetypes

And if the martials in the party are reliant on magic weapons or subclass abilities, theyre not gonna have a fun time either

Being a crystal golem, it naturally resists a lot of martial damage

[severe trellis]

i think I fixed up the formatting some, I hope it looks cool

[nova basin]

Unconditional magic immunity makes it super high CR unless its HP is abysmal

[nova basin]

Is there any way to turn off the immunity?

Like overloading the crystals or smth

[severe trellis]

Also I need some help worshopping a good method of upgrading the weapon

[empty nest]

Didn't think of one, lol

And its fine, the party comp is two fighters, a cleric, and a wizard

[severe trellis]

Maybe help defeating a CR X Demon and then worshiping at an altar or something?

Or have a spell like...Sancutary or hallow cast while its in range and it being in there for a long time? Hmm I want to give the narative of the blade redeming itself

[nova basin]

It is most certainly not fine

[severe trellis]

Derezz, may I workship ideas for how it can upgrade? Nothing definitive but just spitballin

I think helping defeat a strong monster should be part of it...Maybe a focus on undead and fiends as thsoe are the stuff smites are good against

[nova basin]

Thats half the party that cant participate in the fight unless your cleric is running martial centric

[nova basin]

Doesnt need mwchanics

Do milestone like levels

Upgrade it when the story calls for it

Or as a clutch fight swing

[severe trellis]

Yteah that makes sense, though I also like making these for others to use potentially so I do wanna make some mechanics for that like the Horde Magic items

[nova basin]

You could do something like mahoraga

Summon smth you gotta 1v1

[severe trellis]

Oooh that could be cool yeah

different thing of a higher CR when you wanna level up

[severe trellis]

Do you think a CR 5 would be good to fo from rare to very rare or maybe something more like 6?

or am I oversetimating stuff hmm

[nova basin]

I was thinking you cast summon fiend from the weapon, but a special cast that makes it hostile towards you and doubles its health

Like all the darkest parts of the fiend sealed within that you have to overcome

If you or the fiend are damaged, healed, or otherwise affected by any other creature, it immediately dissipates and you dont get the level up

Then to go from vr to leg, you'd have to fight 2 of those

[empty nest]

I guess I can limit the magic immunity to a threshold per round?

Like per round of combat, it can only take X amount of magic based damage

[nova basin]

Give it legendary actions to work with the magic

[nova basin]

I think it'd make more sense to have it not take a certain amount of magic damage per round so you could overwhelm it

So it can ignore like 20 points then eat the rest resisted

Are there gonna be other enemies in this fight or just the golem

[severe trellis]

that sounds great.

then maybe to get the Legndare version of the Weapon, you have to defeat whatver Fiend was sealed within it determined by the DM in full? Like the summon fiend version is a weakend state, jsut its spirit

[late falcon]

Did some editing to the Harpy stat block as I've had some interactions where the harpy's are a little underwhelming. Really curious what you all might think (: plz lmk.

So basically I made Luring Song a bonus action instead of an action. Additionally I gave the harpy a reaction where when a creature that is charmed by the harpy moves within 10 feet of it the harpy can use its reaction to make an attack at that creature but moves at half speed

So if the harpy used too much of its movement in the last turn it might not be able to make it to the creature. Or transversely, it could simply reduce the harpy's movement on its next turn

[empty nest]

Just the golem, cause I'll have it crush the kobold miners in the cavern before it fights the party

[late falcon]

It's your campaign but I personally always liked the addition of a third unaligned enemy changing the dynamic of the fight. Do the previous enemies fight the new enemy or you? Can you convince them to join you? Do they run? Just an idea

[empty nest]

At first they'll fight the party, but as soon as the golem crashes through a wall, they'll start running

[nova basin]

Aight so I'd have it set up with magic specific thp that regens at the start of each of its turns, and a legendary action that lets it heal half the damage the next magic source would deal to it instead of taking the damage. Give it resistance to damage from magic, and halve the thp it gets each turn when it's Bloodied

[late falcon]

That makes sense! Kobolds are living somewhat intelligent creatures, they wouldn't want to die. Would your players be able to convince them to stay and help? :0

[nova basin]

And then somewhere in the ballpark of 130-150 hp

Its gonna be a beefy ahh boy but its just a health sponge mostly

[late falcon]

Health sponges can sometimes be fun lol gives the party a chance to go all out! Plus it's a construct the casters might have some spells that get a chance to ring a little louder

[nova basin]

This thing is pseudo immune to magic

The whole point is to make casters suffer

Shatter isnt gonna be a win button like it usually is

[late falcon]

Semi, so they can do damage to it if they're clever?

[nova basin]

Bro

Read

Lol

Still being workshopped but the og version was unconditional magic immunity

[late falcon]

So it just has a damage limit for magic

[nova basin]

Thats the current version

[late falcon]

Yeh that helps reduce the power of total magic immunity. I would even go further and just give it advantage on to hit an saving throws from magic attacks

Kinda like the creator planned for barrages from a distance but wasn't strong enough to give it magic immunity (keeping it lower CR)

Just an idea super late into the convo lol

[nova basin]

I say overall
100-120ish hp
Resistance to piercing, slashing, and fire
Immunity to poison, charm, fear
Advantage on saves against magic and takes half damage from magic
25 thp at the start of its turn, can only be damaged by magic, physical damage ignores it
Reaction counterspell for free
One of its legendary actions makes the next damaging spell before the start of its turn heal it for half of the damage it deal instead of dealing any damage
Give it legendary resistance too

This is boss level honestly, but since its the only target it needs some extra bulk

This would be perfectly suited to be a full boss encounter if there were multiple of these or if there were higher priority targets you couldnt reach bc of big guy in your way

WAIT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE LARGE NOT HUGE

Okay fixed

[nova basin]

Defensive side concept is done, idk what you wanna do for offense

[true forge]

so, whats better for a form based subclass

BA activation, gain temp HP or revival based activation, gain health back

both being half of maximum

[scenic dew]

Okay so I'm focused for now at making Symbiote Warlock subclass.
Right now the lore is more important than possible mechanics to me since it has to make sense this is sorta my first concept:

Magic Symbiotes are something like Gale's Netherese Orb, but without being useless and annoying. They originate from Hadar the Dark Hunger and are sort of a fragments/children of his.
Symbiote Warlock don't make a pact traditionally, they are usually involuntarily invaded by the symbiotes or some may willingly become their hosts.
The symbiotes are weak at first, so instead of this being strong patron giving you crumbs of power, it's weak patron growing in power as you level up. It doesn't change the mechanics, just usual approach. The symbiotes develop their own personality and communicate with their host. Imagine it sorta like carrying eldritch god infant in your chest. Although they are tied to GOO subclass the bonuses this subclass would provide would be more physical than mental.

Any opinions?

[cerulean seal]

A lot of what you described is more narrative/flavor than actual mechanic.

Mechanically I think you could easily make it work. I don’t think you need to specifically make it Marvel symbiote. You can probably just call it a Symbiote to represent any kind of patron that physically is apart of you. A parasite, an ooze, a mechanical agument, etc.

[scenic dew]

That's the problem. If I do any patron, the mechanics will have to be limited for possibility of representing all patrons. Sure right now, I'm not sure what mechanics, I will give it yet since what I care about the most is the flavor. I think reversible the classic relationship between Warlock and Patron could be quite a fresh air.

I avoided the Marvel Symbiote and went for Eldritch Hadar inspired because it will absorb/collect/consume information from environment to evolve. This is so I can explain Mystic Arcanum.

[true forge]

this is way more fitting of a sorcerer btw

[scenic dew]

I would agree if the symbiote didn't have personality. It won't give host odd jobs like patron, it will be more of...desires. Like a kid asking if you can visit McDonalds.

[true forge]

eh

i''d say sorc works better

like you said, its something inside of you

sorcs whole thing is getting magic from genetics or interactions with magic/magical creatures, this fitting the ladder

[scenic dew]

Aren't sorcerers born with their powers ?

[true forge]

most flavour it do be

but not all the time

hells, just being in a place can give you magic

Sorcerers carry a magical birthright conferred upon them by an exotic bloodline, some otherworldly influence, or exposure to unknown cosmic forces. One can’t study sorcery as one learns a language, any more than one can learn to live a legendary life. No one chooses sorcery; the power chooses the sorcerer.

[scenic dew]

I mean, could be used for sorc as well. I prefer the Warlock because of the "building relationship" part, although technically the host doesn't possess magical powers it's the symbiote. I don't know if sorcerer can lose their powers if they decide to leave, but Warlock sure can.

[true forge]

they can, just flavour it to be that way

[scenic dew]

I mean, I wouldn't mind if someone liked the concept and did it for sorcerer. I build it around Warlock or I tried so I guess it's bit of preference thing.

I would say the preference is because the power origin is bit opposite of Sorcerer. "You are not special." it's the symbiote.

[true forge]

most sorcs just channel what makes them special

channeling your draconic energies, the luner rays ect ect

[scenic dew]

Aren't their draconic abilities genetic ? Don't they have like even few scales and such ?

I don't know, I don't play sorcerers nor really any of my fellow players for some reason.

[true forge]

draconic is really the only one being the pure bloodline one

but using dragonborn logic from elder scrolls

i would say absorbing its soul could give you its power

[nova basin]

I have a similar wip subclass actually

Mine's more parasite warlock but being bonded with your patron is still there

Or an aspect of your patron anyway

If you wanna check for inspo

[scenic dew]

I guess I can see that being a thing.

[scenic dew]

Thank you, but I'll avoid taking from others. Maybe I will unintentionally use same ideas, but I would be too prone to copy things.

[nova basin]

We're already converging on a lot

Physical forward, bonded patron with a personality

[scenic dew]

Well I guess great minds think alike.
I think this subclass is kinda missing piece for Warlock so naturally we will base it on what we seems as lacking.

[nova basin]

What kind if mechanics are you going for?

Mine is a "win more" subclass, it all hinges off using a corpse mid combat

[scenic dew]

Actually... I'm not even sure yet. I'm considering taking pieces from my unfinished homebrew class and add it to this. So result would be body alterations, enhanced close range combat abilities, increased survivability and "syphoning" or "analyzing" other's people magic.
Right now I think of possibly giving capacity to lower damage from spells specifically that target you in some reasonable amount.

[scenic dew]

Corpse ? Like exploding dead enemies and such ?

[nova basin]

Thats one option

The main gameplay loop is using a dead enemy to feed the parasite and go big mode

Then later you can raise a corpse instead that explodes when it dies

Lemme just drop it and it might help you visualize

Mine is significantly less magically inclined than what I think you're going for

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14fhIc5qNaN6F9rVwGC17AOSLrscbgLTR-Im0OXG5crg/edit?usp=drivesdk

Its also 2014

I havent updated it yet

[scenic dew]

I'm going for a magic a lot to explain obtaining Mystic Arcanum. So far the idea is that the symbiote makes up their "own" spell based on what they saw others use and that's mystic arcanum.

[bronze patrol]

Who up brewing they home

[celest mica]

I'm up homing in on my brews

[bronze patrol]

Hells yeah

[nova basin]

Trying to explain class features with subclass features is generally backwards design

Not necessary

[bronze patrol]

I have not existed here for many months

[celest mica]

Question. If I were to make a skeleton race, should it have the Undead creature type or should it be Humanoid? Cuz I know being an Undead comes with lots of weaknesses.

[bronze patrol]

Undead don't be a coward

[nova basin]

The core issue with a bonded patron that hates you is that they realistically kill you as soon as they're strong enough, so it needs some explanation as to why it wouldnt

[worthy karma]

I'd go with undead

[nova basin]

Generally, the answer is mutual benefit

The parasite wants the host to survive as best it can, and would provide the necessary tools

[scenic dew]

Not explain, rather align. Can't really have unique spell per day and have non magical patron. Sure probably could explain it by bending how will the spell be presented, but that's just too much trouble for not enough benefit.

[nova basin]

In what world is this patron non magical

There is no such thing as a non magical patron

[bronze patrol]

Nonmagical warlock patron that's against everything warlock?

[nova basin]

They have to have powers that bend the core rules of realoty to grant that power to others, either as a parasite or a deal or an oath or whatever

[bronze patrol]

Omg speaking of warlock derezz do you remember curseweaver warlock

[nova basin]

No

[scenic dew]

Yeah, so I had good idea. Although I will inspire myself from you. I like the shield spell you give, but I personally will use Absorb Elements since it would well represent the ability to consume part of spells used against the Warlock.

[bronze patrol]

Back from before wotc made hexblade more cursey

[nova basin]

Oh the UA

Sorta

[bronze patrol]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19C22QKw81Gd-0pW1o3E_8ruSOmP3LaVBcNfcNF9pMRc/edit?usp=drivesdk

This one I made

Specifically because hexblade wasn't cursey enough

And then a few months later the ua came out

[true forge]

me

[bronze patrol]

Based

[scenic dew]

I meant my patron. Right now the concept is still leaning toward the Hadar origin since Warlocks have unusually high amount of Hadar named spells.

[bronze patrol]

They have like... Two?

Arms and hunger

[true forge]

something tells me you might be interested in this fullclass im making lol

basically hexblade but full class and more military/army theming

half pact caster ofc

[scenic dew]

If I had a penny for every Hadar named spell Warlocks have. I would have two pennies, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

[bronze patrol]

We hate half pact caster that sounds like Order of the Profane Soul Blood Hunter and we hate that subclass

[true forge]

oh no thats 3rd pact casting

very different

[bronze patrol]

Proper reference is nickel smhsmh

[bronze patrol]

Wait really
Yeah that tracks subs are usually 1/3

[nova basin]

Hadar is magical

[true forge]

silly billy :P

[nova basin]

Very powerfully magical

[bronze patrol]

Okay so you're better than profane soul at least. Low bar but like at least you beat it

[nova basin]

Enough to have so much magical influence that everyone can use his spells and hes still bing chilling

[true forge]

yay!

Eldritch Arts

Starting in 1st level, you are taught how to commune with your army. Over the course of a short or long rest, you can perform a 1 hour ritual to connect yourself to your General's army. When you finsh this ritual, you can choose one of the following Arts.

• Eldritch Curse. As a bonus action, you can condemn a creature within 30 feet with a feeling of uneasiness and foreboding for a number of minutes equal to your Charisma modifier. When you attack this creature with a weapon attack, The creature takes an additional 1d4 necrotic damage. This damage increases as level in this class: 1d6 at 6th level, 1d8 at 10th and lastly, 1d10 at 15th. This can be used a number of times per long rest equal to your Charisma modifier.
• Bound Weaponry. The next weapon you touch becomes bound to your soul. When you deal damage with this weapon, you can instead deal necrotic, radiant or psychic damage instead. As a bonus action, you can summon this weapon to your hands as long as it is in the same plane of existance as you. This weapon cannot unwillingly leave your hands.
• Militaristic Might. As a bonus action, you can speak works of incoragement, bloostered by your army's cries, to a creature within 10 feet of you. This creature gains advantage on the next attack roll, saving throw or ability check they make. This can be used a number of times per long rest equal to your Charisma modifier.

If you do this ritual again, you can choose to remove your current Eldritch Art and replace it with a different Art. This lasts until you replace it for another.

theres the gimmick feature

gods spelling aside lol

homebrewery cannot fix my bad spelling :(

[scenic dew]

Exactly. Hadar solves all my troubles. Deus Ex Gigachad

[bronze patrol]

No but we can

[true forge]

lol

its still in the works

all base class features are done

just making the spell list atm

then subs

[bronze patrol]

Based

[true forge]

:P

yeah

custom fighting styles, summon, upgrades to the gimmick and summon

[bronze patrol]

Silly

[true forge]

Potestas Ducis

Starting at 20th level, your General has apointed you the highest power it can, granting you benefits beyond mortal comprehension. Your Eldritch Arts are mastered, gaining the following benefits:

• Eldritch Curse. When you use your Eldritch Curse, you can instead target all creatures within a 20 foot cone. Once per turn, when you deal damage to a cursed creature, all other cursed creatures take necrotic damage equal to half the damage dealt. This damage ignores resistance to necrotic damage.
• Bound Weaponry: Once per turn, when you damage a creature using your bound weapon, you can cause the target to become engulfed in your General's boundless power, dealing an extra 2d12 + your Executor level necrotic, radiant or psychic damage (your choice).
• Militaristic Might: Affected creatures now gain advantage on all attack rolls, saving throws or ability checks for 1 hour.

theres the capstone

[bronze patrol]

Silly

[bronze patrol]

You were correct

Seems like a fun warlock fighter mix

[rugged olive]

Tbh, I would've liked to just change accursed specter from 2014 hexblade and tweak 10 for something else

Accursed specter just felt, pushed in

[nova basin]

Thats not timo

LMAO

Dirty delete

[rugged olive]

XD, sorry, not Ti

[bronze patrol]

Dw abt it

[nova basin]

Shame this ho chatroom

Jk

[rugged olive]

But good seeing you Lunara

[bronze patrol]

Who are you then

We do not know of you

[rugged olive]

I'm Hermes, played in a few of Ti's games and oneshots

[bronze patrol]

Interesting

[rugged olive]

A lot less active recently in this server than I used to be, but busy times

[bronze patrol]

So are we

This is the first we've spoken in months

[true forge]

https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/icOqXMwSwVG_

theres the link

[rugged olive]

Nice, just wanted to see some homebrew, since I'm about to play a homebrew Merchant class in an Icewind Dale Campaign (Gambler subclass)

[true forge]

flavour needs a rewrite but that comes later

[bronze patrol]

Blowing you up with our mind

Is that the mtg card art for pact weapon

[true forge]

yep

Pact Weapon

[bronze patrol]

It so is

We're so good at this

[true forge]

yeah art comes after everything lol

homebrewery pictures arent something i cant wrap my head around

[bronze patrol]

We've been playing so much magic lately we literally saw the art and went "ayo pact weapon"

Pulled it up on scryfall to verify

[true forge]

thats, sad? impressive? both? a crazy 4th option?

[nova basin]

Why are you suddenly a hive mind

What happened to tara

[bronze patrol]

We aren't a hive mind, just plural

[bronze patrol]

Tara is resting at the moment we think

[bronze patrol]

It is a testament to the encyclopedia of magic the gathering cards that is our brain

[nova basin]

This presents strangely

[rugged olive]

I just took a look at it, pretty good, and very interesting

[nova basin]

Ive only ever met 2 other plural people but none of their alters referred to themselves as we

Interesting

[true forge]

:D

[bronze patrol]

This usually happens when we can't tell who is piloting the body, or if multiple of us are sharing control

[nova basin]

This mf a megazord

[rugged olive]

I have quite a few plural friends, some do this as well, heck, I do it sometimes and I'm not plural, just something I accidentally picked up

[rugged olive]

Ah, makes sense

[bronze patrol]

We are not power rangers

[rugged olive]

Bobble, do you have any subclass ideas currently for the class?

[bronze patrol]

Ironically we form a pretty well balanced D&D party

[nova basin]

You say that like being a power ranger is an insult

Or

Yall

Ig

[bronze patrol]

You is both singular and plural

[nova basin]

But yall is southern gentleman

[bronze patrol]

Are you a southern gentleman

[nova basin]

I have my priorities

[nova basin]

Not technically but neither are most "actual" southern gentlemen so idc

[bronze patrol]

Fair enough

We grew up as a boy in florida does that count

We are no longer a boy and no longer in florida though

[nova basin]

No

Florida is coastal f-boys and f-girls

[bronze patrol]

Coastal whatnow

[nova basin]

The closest they get to southern gentlemab is like

Just a guy

[bronze patrol]

Lol you right

[nova basin]

I grew up in big city texas so I dont have the country core of a southern gentleman but I like how they talk

Southern ✅️
Gentleman ✅️
Old south politically informed mannerisms 🚫

[celest mica]

I'm trying to think of new Skills to add to my players' character sheets. So far I got Dexterity (Steady of Hand) and Charisma (Romance).

I'd like to add at least one new Strength skill and maybe a Constitution skill if possible.

[umbral dust]

Fortitude/torpidity for con? How easily the character can get up after being knocked out etc

[true forge]

Spectral Form

3rd level Spectre feature

You can channel the power of the inhabitants of the Ethereal realm. When you are reduced to 0 HP, you can use your reaction to enter your Spectral Form. During this form, your body and any equipment you are wearing or attuned to turn transparent. You gain the following effects while in this form:

• You regain half of your maximum hit points
• You gain resistance to necrotic and cold damage.
• Once per turn, when you deal damage, you can deal an extra 1d8 necrotic or cold damage.
• You can take the Hide action as a bonus action
• Your creature type is changed to Undead

This form lasts for 1 minute and can be used once per long rest. When this minute is up, your body returns to normal. If you are reduced to 0 HP during this minute, you return to your normal body but you die as if you failed all 3 of your Death Saving Throws.

is this harsh? or should i rework it to make it abit better to use

[void jewel]

Definitely not harsh

Iirc there's an epic boon that does just the health component of that

This is level 3.

[true forge]

so its too strong?

[celest valve]

In my opinion no but I deal with players and a DM that have spells like fireball²

fireball² is when one fireball hits something one more appears and goes after the target hit even if it's moving

yes it applys to anything

[uneven halo]

anybody able to help with a home brew in a call right now

[void jewel]

For the level, definitely.

[celest valve]

Sure moonlight

What do you need

[uneven halo]

trying to home brew a trench gun

[celest valve]

That's fun

[void jewel]

For reference, this is a big part of the effect of boon of recovery, an epic boon you get at level 19:

"Last Stand. When you would be reduced to 0 Hit Points, you can drop to 1 Hit Point instead and regain a number of Hit Points equal to half your Hit Point maximum. Once you use this benefit, you can't use it again until you finish a Long Rest"

[celest valve]

Look up magic guns and stuff for inspo

[true forge]

did think of a rework for how you enter and how long it lasts

although it might be still abit much?

[uneven halo]

you able to join a call

[void jewel]

You'll note that boon of recovery has none of those things and is still a decent choice at level 19.

[celest valve]

Sure but it's like 4 am where I'm at so keep it down pls

[true forge]

i didnt really want to do THP form but its the only way to do it i think

[true forge]

for 2014 btw

[void jewel]

In that case, even worse. 14's power budget is lower.

[true forge]

eh maybe? (its for ranger aswell, if you couldnt tell)

[void jewel]

Power budget is lower in 14.

[true forge]

how about something like this

When you are take damage by an attack roll or failing a saving throw, you can use your reaction and 1 hit die to enter the form

the form gives you THP equal to your Wis mod x a roll of the HD instead of half max HP

Form lasts until THP runs out or a min, maybe gain an action to regain all THP gained via this feature?

[void jewel]

PCs are considerably less potent there

[void jewel]

Assuming limited uses that looks good

[true forge]

thats plus all the other effects

[celest valve]

Any ideas on how to make my players think twice about making me question life?

[true forge]

just changing health and enterage

[void jewel]

A feature that restores half your hit points when you are reduced to zero reads "gain a 1.5 times multiplier for your hit points, or possibly more", effectively. That is the issue.

[true forge]

1000d100 psychic damage

[void jewel]

Yeah giving thp and expending the hit die seems good

[celest valve]

YES

THANK YOU IMMA GO WRITE THAT SH- DOEN

*down

[void jewel]

This is the case because if you have 80hp and this feature is active, you essentially have 40 in the tank in addition to that. And any damage beyond that which took you to 0 is wasted in that hit, possibly creating even more value

The feature's theme isn't an issue, just the regaining half HP on a down

[true forge]

depends on the monster ig

[celest valve]

Bobble thank you

[true forge]

maybe?

some can do 40 damage pretty easy i'd think

[void jewel]

The above math is always true, just the amount beyond 50% that you get varies depending in str of hit. But its always 1.5x at minimum

[celest valve]

Your evil for this but if it keeps them in line I'll call the spell the DMs punishment

[void jewel]

Monsters doing certain amounts of damage doesn't really have bearing in the fact that multiplying someone's health by 1.5 is too powerful

Especially for a third level feature

If that monster could do 40 damage pretty easily, all the more need for this extra hp

[celest valve]

Take it from me DONT

Or that's just me

[true forge]

:P

[void jewel]

Arguably the feature is more useful if the monster has powerful single hits

Because more damage is likely to be wasted on the hit that takes you to 0

(Any overkill damage is lost, THEN you gain your new hit points, unaffected by the overkill, effectively providing additional value)

But long story short the edited version seems fine

[true forge]

well it is a proposed rework for it

[spring tusk]

Question,

This may be better reserved for a different channel, but- I've looked at the rules, I feel personally that I'm not actually the best at understanding how the balance of this game works

I think I'd be a better homebrewer if I did

I don't suppose anyone like be up to discussing it with me?

[true forge]

balance is kinda, hard to judge at times, factors are a thing for a reason, there are many

[spring tusk]

Namely, when it comes to creature creation- beyond the base numbers, I'm not sure what constitutes balance or unbalanced.. for example, what's the difference power wise between having a teleport ability and having a hold person ability

Completely hypothetical example to be clear

[true portal]

Question: Do you think these are balanced perks my players could choose from? I have accounted for them in monster balance, but i still wanted to get a second opinion. Level 1 players.

Crowd Awareness

Once per combat, after any creature you can see rolls a d20, you may add or subtract 1d6 from the roll.

You must decide after the roll, but before the result is known.

Arena Footing

You ignore difficult terrain in the arena, and nonmagical difficult terrain outside the arena.

Once per round, you may move 5 feet without provoking opportunity attacks.

Studied Opponent

As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see.

Until the end of this combat, you gain advantage on attack rolls, ability checks and saving throws involving that creature.

Once per combat.

Adrenal Response

Proficiency Bonus times per combat, when you take damage, you may take an attack of opportunity.

Grit

PB per combat, when you fail a saving throw, you may reroll it and take the new result.

You must accept the new roll.

[true forge]

that all depends on what else it gets attack wise and other stuff

[true portal]

this is a colosseum campaign btw, thats where the names come from

[true forge]

monsters are weirder to balance (for me at least)

[spring tusk]

Fair, let's assume they both get the same damage.. say multiattack, two strikes, each deals 11 (2d6+4), but one can teleport 30 feet as a BA, and the other can paralyze people once per turn when an attack hits

[true forge]

as CR is a pretty 'subjective' and at times 'bad' system

[spring tusk]

Yeah- mostly I'm thinking from the context of Vecna and Zariel, I just watched an XPtoLvl3 vid on the two of them fighting and Vecna just got stomped despite the two being the same CR

I understand they're both 2014 creatures as well so the CR is a little jank, but still

[true forge]

the paralyze would be stronger if a downright brawl happend, but the TP one can get into spots the party cannot unless spending resources, or to run away

[true portal]

That too, not all abilities are combat focused

[true forge]

that was using 2024 rules i think

and like i said

CR is kinda weird

yeah vecna and zariel are the same CR

but zariel (i think) has like 400 less HP then vecna

or something like that

[spring tusk]

Something like that yeah

[spring tusk]

For sure, but like- what's the qualifier in that

[true forge]

it just comes down to attack potency, traits and their effects, spells, and at times, lair actions and other factors like summons

[true forge]

qualifier?

[spring tusk]

Like, why would you say that the paralyze is stronger than the teleport, what's the indicator on that

I can see why that would be said, 30 feet of extra movement in any direction as a BA vs just straight once a turn paralysis

[true forge]

have you seen the paralyze condition?

[spring tusk]

I get that, I just mean like

Is there a scale to it

[true forge]

ok

[spring tusk]

Or are we just eye balling it

[true forge]

say if its a 1v1

monster gets attack and paralyze off

and say it lasts for a turn

they basically just got damage and escape, the same as if they action attack and BA TP, while saving their bonus action

and it skips the turn of the PC

you see what im saying right?

[true portal]

Reposting this

Question: Do you think these are balanced perks my players could choose from? I have accounted for them in monster balance, but i still wanted to get a second opinion. Level 1 players.

Crowd Awareness

Once per combat, after any creature you can see rolls a d20, you may add or subtract 1d6 from the roll.

You must decide after the roll, but before the result is known.

Arena Footing

You ignore difficult terrain in the arena, and nonmagical difficult terrain outside the arena.

Once per round, you may move 5 feet without provoking opportunity attacks.

Studied Opponent

As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see.

Until the end of this combat, you gain advantage on attack rolls, ability checks and saving throws involving that creature.

Once per combat.

Adrenal Response

Proficiency Bonus times per combat, when you take damage, you may take an attack of opportunity.

Grit

PB per combat, when you fail a saving throw, you may reroll it and take the new result.

You must accept the new roll.

[urban bay]

Grit is just uh... Indomitable but more.

you know the Level 9 Fighter feature? Which you get 2 uses of at 13th Level. Yeah it's broken as hell

Adrenal Response is still available too often for Level 1, but it takes up your Reaction, so... I guess it could be fine?

Studied opponent is so BUSTED.

Advantage on One of those things for the whole encounter on one enemy would be fine, but all of them is insane.

hmm ok well, depends on what you mean by "once per combat", that's not a phrase used anywhere

if it's Long Rest it might be fine. On Short rest it would only be fine if it's an Action instead of a Bonus Action

again, this is all if these are for Level 1

does Crowd Awareness use your Reaction? like again that wording you used is just not a thing

Ignoring all difficult Terrain at Level 1 raises a lot of eyebrows but the other part is just Disengage without taking any Action/Bonus Action, Rogues Get a worse version of that at Level 2, and this is Level 1

[urban bay]

so in short, all of these are overtuned, some more blatantly overpowered than others

[true portal]

Thanks for the feedback! Grit and Studied opponent definitely need to be nerfed, yeah.

[umbral dust]

what CR can a single 7th level character beat in a fight?

one of my PCs is dueling his father so i'm looking to create a statblock around the same effective challenge rating as the player is

[sacred current]

Monster idea

• Just an adult green dragon, but it can become a weeping angel at will
• Has multiple statues of itself in its lair with which it can switch places at will

[boreal rover]

Depends on the character and the statblock

Could be upwards of CR15+, or below CR 6 if very unoptimized

[umbral dust]

i was going to look at official humanoid statblocks and just change some things to be more thematically accurate

a general starting point could be good

[frank berry]

In a 1v1 situation lot of balance goes out the window. CR 7 means the creature is designed to be a medium(?) challenge against a group of 4 level 7 characters as a group. Depending on the features of both the PC and the Monster, anything could happen if one has something that majorly disables the other in some way

[umbral dust]

i suppose since it is humanoid i can just make a 7th level character sheet and simplify its abilities into a statblock lol

they're both battle master fighters

[glossy arrow]

does anyone know is the species of wasp a vespoid (race) is based on changes the stats be i'm making one based on a warrior wasp and don't think the stats i saw in the wiki don't really fit em, and if it's needed for the discussion im playing an lvl5 antificer (fist arti character :D) should i have put this in character discussion instead

[umbral dust]

if you're looking for the stats of an official race called a vespoid, i don't think there is one

[glossy arrow]

it was a homebrew one i found one sec

[umbral dust]

if you're looking for official races to work off, thri-keen is the only bug race i can find

removing thri-keen telepathy, chameleon carapace and giving it a 30ft fly speed may work

[glossy arrow]

i found a screenshot but i just realized i can't send them here

[umbral dust]

if you have a link you can send it

[glossy arrow]

thx, i'll look into em

[umbral dust]

also make sure you're checking with your DM before using homebrew in their games

[glossy arrow]

always do

[umbral dust]

sweet

[glossy arrow]

the reason i was asking about a vespoid was because i was looking into insect races and saw them somewhere but now i can't remember lol

[umbral dust]

when i googled it all that came up was a worldanvil link which usually means it's homebrew

and searching on dndbeyond came up with nothing, so it's def not official

[sturdy knoll]

vespoid is not an official D&D 5e species/race

[glossy arrow]

yeah i thought so but thanks for the help :3

[strange oyster]

Anyone has a cyborg race ?

[umbral dust]

what's wrong with warforged?

just flavour your character to be more human than robot

[strange oyster]

Idk there's already a warforged in the campaign

[umbral dust]

doesn't mean you can't play one

robo buddies

[frank berry]

A cyborg's just gonna be another flavor of robot. If you're wanting to avoid being similar, it's not gonna make much difference if you're playing a warforged or a very simialr race just not called a warforged, really 😛

[rustic mountain]

Such a fire take. I tend to direct players to "close enoughs" for homebrew races. Want to play a harpy? Play a kenku or an aarakocra. Want to play a lion or generally animalistic person? Play a goliath or tabaxi. We can reflavor certain features for others and have fun. So on, so forth

[severe trellis]

Is there anyone who's good at statblocks on here? I want some help making one for a new angel class

now class but like

class of angel

[mossy thorn]

whats the best way you guys have found to show that your homebrewed monster has a custom loot table? is it just as simple as putting in the monster description what the loot table is or is it something like at the end of the module i put the loot table for the monster type and link the page to the encounter?

[mystic sapphire]

Artificer: Gunsmith
https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/Td80nf2ZzCkJ

[umbral dust]

i usually just write in the notes for whatever session i put that monster in that x drops y. if you're planning on publishing it, then yeah maybe put it in the notes

[mossy thorn]

id assume that was the case however its going to be a general enemy loot table for the module/ campaign so id assume it'd also be fine to just chuck it at the end notes and refrence it in the index or smthn

[umbral dust]

sounds fine yeah

[mossy thorn]

alg thanks

[frank leaf]

Thrikreen is the only insect race I can remember

Very cool race. One of my faves.

[heady stream]

cool idea, some notes:

• you should review the power of the arcane munitions. they should be worth the spell slot, so compare them to spells of the same level and make sure they are similar to good spells of that level. Not all of them are strong enough imo.
• artificers always get a subclass spell list
• some way to deal force damage at later levels instead of piercing maybe?

[mystic sapphire]

If I were to add a spell list, where could I get back the space I need to keep it 2 pages and maintain the art?

[heady stream]

Î guess add another art piece in between? idk

[mystic sapphire]

Also, what munitions seem weak to you?

[mossy thorn]

Custom Session 1 Module for a Campaign im thinking about starting up contains a few monsters id like looking at and a loot table
https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/7BE4DH8k_f2Y

[heady stream]

Piercing Round seems a bit weak, I dont love adding a third party condition for Tracer round, Flashing round also maybe a bit weak for two points? Brutal round is just not worth it at all

[midnight elk]

I'm currently making a shop for my campaign. Is this weapon okay?
Hrotti, Treasure-Guardian Blade
Legendary Shortsword (+2) — Requires Attunement
Cost: 30 GP
Dragon’s Edge. +3d6 fire vs draconic creatures or hoard guardians.
Treasure Sense. Detect magical items within 60 ft.
Strike the Greedy (1/day). Wis DC 20 or drop all valuables, if the target has no valuables it will instead drop GP (roll D10 to determine)

The actual one emojis but I didn't want anyone to judge me for using them.

Here's the full shop:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DiTXGsKcEXOO3ywwzTqg-FWIrAHkM_c77lwX90fhnPQ/edit?usp=sharing

[flat frigate]

so uhhh, I'm very new to dming and im not sure if im trying to do the impossible here but im trying to balance dragons to be pcs and because im new but really want to make this idea reality ive used both what i know and Chatgpt to get some sort of system figured out, but i have no clue whether it would make sense or not

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bJNElw2Dda14YOvq1lqnruFU607OgpLvYeUjvU94yBk/edit?usp=sharing

[nova basin]

Any sort of AI use is not allowed in this server, and you're not the first or last to try and make full dragon PCs

It comes down to everybody is a dragon or nobody can be a dragon

[flat frigate]

wdym

[nova basin]

There is no way to balance a dragon PC to be played with non dragon PCs without neutering the fantasy of playing a dragon

So either you make a system for everybody to play dragons, oe nobody plays dragons

And past all of this, if you're new to DMing, you DO NOT want to saddle yourself with a whole homebrew core system

You need vanilla experience before you can brew effectively

[flat frigate]

alright, also this system is for all the players to be dragons

[umbral dust]

You should also take in that no AI usage is allowed on the server, so asking for advice on something chatgpt made for you isn't the best idea

I'm sure plenty of people here would be happy to help you make a system from the ground up however

[nova basin]

Yeah nobody with a moral code is opening that doc

When you can be creative without your crutch, we can help

[umbral dust]

An unpolished man-made system is infinitely better than anything an ai can do imho

[nova basin]

Every LLM is notorious for being confidently wrong about most of what they tell you, amd they're even known to make up sources that dont exist to verify their mistakes

You do not wanna use something AI had a primary hand in

[vernal leaf]

Playing a dragon is fine as long as it starts out weak ish and grows with the players. Clear it with the other players to see if they mind but generally as long as he isnt super op its fine. Let him start as a wyrmling and grow in strength. Use the dragonborne race as a base idea and do things like letting them physically grow in size with levels. And flying usually starts at level 3

But an easy one would be to use dragonborne as is. But its a regular dragon. Slap flying on it at level 3. And let them start as a small creature that grows to an adult large sized dragon over time

Dragons can speak common and this wouldnt cause any weird lore things or balance things

[flat frigate]

The campaign idea is that everybody is a dragon

[vernal leaf]

Shouldn't matter

Should work for all of them.

[flat frigate]

Alright

[vernal leaf]

As long as it starts out weakish and grows over time

Replace a weapon with a bite or tail attack at d8 piercing or slashing biting whatever

[flat frigate]

Yeah I had the idea of their strength reflecting on how large their hoard is

[vernal leaf]

If I were to do it id make them hatchlings first. Literally coming out of the egg in the mommas hoard while its being robbed by goons

Mommas not there and cant be found

[flat frigate]

Pretty good idea

Also you lowkie scaring me (jk) but you keep listing ideas I’ve had at some point in time

[vernal leaf]

Assume they'll kill the goons. Make them goblins or something

Start small size. D4 bites. Some small breath attacks

Etc

Cant fly. Can slow fall glide a little

Could do anything with the idea but I like the idea of a survival game where they're being hunted by dragonslayers or something and they have to run and grow

[flat frigate]

Alright are you in my walls or something?

You keep listing ideas I’ve had 😭

[flat bane]

What if a party entered a room and a warning states that one of the five chests has the key to the next room but one chest is a mimic. It turns out that the only mimic is the locked door

[viscid flicker]

Anyone know how to fix errors that are thrown when creating homebrew?

[empty nest]

Agreed. I used AI to copy and paste some stuff into a code block I had. It was just to add certain actions into certain parts, but the thing decided to change some values so the code wouldn't work.

[restive tusk]

What errors are you encountering, and what platform are you using to make the homebrew?

[low ice]

Internal Server Error? I've been getting that a lot lately. Cleared my browser cache, re-logged in, etc. Likely coming from their side

[restive tusk]

If it’s on D&DBeyond then you can ask in #ddb-support

[wraith cave]

A funny gameplay event i made
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16QkvLoem_fVSMWrMwtdoMZhg-Jfuam43F5heo17Xvrs/edit?usp=drivesdk

Feel free to use it

[viscid flicker]

Dnd Beyond I am building a subclass and I keep getting errors when trying to add features. I know this is a known issue but I was hoping for solutions.

[vocal prairie]

A Large blade yet remarkably light. designed to fight foes more formidable than the average man. the large weapon takes a great deal of skill to swing properly, there is rarely any recoil, this blade can slice through living matter without leaving any physical trace or spilling a drop of blood. when used to strike a living being the blade will leave a trace of magic along the path it cut through.

Advantage on attack rolls against inanimate objects

Oath:

"Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
"I will protect even those i hate, so long as it is right."
"I accept that I cannot protect everyone"
Violations

Abandoning innocents
Cowardice
Choosing convenience over protection
If the wielder has broken an oath, betrayed an ally or acted against the blades nature, the blade gains one of the following until atonement or Long rest

Disadvantage on attacks
Blade requires action to summon
Must succeed on DC 15 charisma save to summon blade
Blade screams in wielders mind, Disadvantage on concentration checks.
Should the wielder of this blade break their oath 4 times before atonement their bond with the blade will be permanently severed.

making a blade for lower level party members what other advantage can i give this to make it a little better without making it overpowered?

[cerulean seal]

Opinions on a third level subclass feature that lets you cast any cantrips as a bonus action from another locations as the origin point. Able to use the feature like Wis mod times per LR?

[nova basin]

Rn this is basically a mithril sword with rp restrictions

Idk what kind of advantage you're looking for thematically, but probably save adv vs specific creature types/allignments

[flat bane]

An idea for homebrew magic item is a gauge gauntlet that runs on void and every hour you use it you gain a level of void infection . At level 10 void infection your character starts to get corrupted each day your character gets infected it gets worse until your character becomes a voidling which gives buffs to dexterity and speed. You gain the abilities to become one with the shadows

[elder ledge]

Okay
Odd question
I barely played World of Warcraft (not even spent a penny on it)
BUT
I kinda like some of the ~Races~ Species like the Drenai and Tauren (I just think they are neat... I am also a Paladin Main)
Is there like a WoW homebrew with the races? (Hell, if there are classes with different spin I'd take it too)

[frank berry]

I mean Taurens are pretty muc hjust minotaurs, which already exist, and I immediately found a reddit post with Draenei converted to D&D searching on google in top results 😎

[grand rampart]

I made a race that has a table you roll for like wild magic barb or sorcerer if anyone would be interested

[elder ledge]

Oh for real?
The question was focused on the drenai
Just wanted to give equal treatment for both sides on the player opinion

[scenic dew]

So yeah...at what level would it be reasonable to have AC 17-18 without armor ?

Specifically base AC 13 + Cha Mod while not wearing armor.

[frank berry]

At usual scores, you'd at most have 17 Charisma at 1st level, and to get it to 20 the earliest by normal means you could have that at level 8 after two ASI's (Or if you roll an 18, you could have 20 charisma by level 4)
"Reasonable" is relative though. A sorcerer or bard who uses Charisma and normally doesnt use armor with this kind of ability would be pretty strong, while for other classes it might just be a slightly better alternative depending on their ability scores

[scenic dew]

It's for Warlock.
It's supposed to be subclass feature that along with passive AC extends lifespan of the Warlock.

Oh yeah right and it's for 2025e

[wet adder]

ROGUE: HERBALIST (2024)

3RD LEVEL: PRESSURE POINTS

Your deep anatomical understanding allows you to exploit enemy weak points. Once per turn, upon dealing Sneak Attack damage, you can reduce the minimum roll needed for you to score a Critical Hit by 2 (for example, if you score Critical Hits on rolls of 20, it is reduced to 18).
This reduction continues everytime you score a Sneak Attack, but resets upon scoring a Critical Hit.

[true forge]

....

thats, not really ftting for a HERBalist

and also, thats very broken

[urban bay]

also that is just a Champion feature

the fighter subclass, and not the Level 3 feature, that one just reduces it by 1

also "Herbalist"?

[true forge]

yeah

[urban bay]

and the Pressure Point stuff reads more like a Monk feature

[wet adder]

its complicated.... im drawing inspirations from my own culture of using pressure points for natural remedies

[urban bay]

and even then not a Level 3 one

[wet adder]

hmmmm

i have an alternative version of the feature

gimme a sec

[urban bay]

ok, that is fair, but I would still associate this stuff more with a Monk than a Rogue

[urban bay]

that is ALSO Busted

[wet adder]

thats true

[wet adder]

lord 😭

not going well

[urban bay]

the scaling is just too strong

[wet adder]

alr going back to the drawing board

[urban bay]

if it was half proficiency bonus it might be acceptable

but yeah this all still reads more like Monk than Rogue

unless you want to make a Monk-like Rogue

and that's the idea

[wet adder]

hmmm

i was thinking about doing monk initially but i think theres already a healing-based subclass for monk?

as far as i remember

and i didnt want to tread on its toes

[urban bay]

yeah there is

[wet adder]

yeahhh

so i wanted to go rogue since my character is a doctor

and they use intelligence as a secondary stat (somewhat)

[urban bay]

tho if you wanna keep this Pressure Points idea for this Rogue Subclass, I'd reserve this feature for later, 'cause "Deep Understanding" doesn't sound like Level 3 imo

[wet adder]

thats true

[true forge]

there is many rogue doctor subs outhere, but this seems very combat heavy instead of support

[wet adder]

hmmmm

[urban bay]

like if you put this at Level 9, and either do "Crit at 19" or "Reduce AC until they get hit and Dex Save results until they fail one by Half your Proficiency Bonus" (Either one not both at the same time), it would be fine maybe, but the Level 3 stuff would have to be more support oriented

[true forge]

Spectral Form

3rd level Spectre feature

You can channel the power of the inhabitants of the Ethereal realm. When you take damage from an attack roll or from failing a saving throw, you can use your reaction to spend and roll a number of Hit Dice equal to your half Wisdom modifier (rounded down) to enter your Spectral Form. During this form, your body and any equipment you are wearing or attuned to turns transparent. You gain the following effects while in this form:

• You gain temporary hit points equal to the result of the rolled Hit Dice times your Wisdom modifier.
• You gain resistance to necrotic or cold damage (your choice when you enter this form)
• Once per turn, when you deal damage, you can deal an extra 1d8 necrotic or cold damage.
• You can take the Hide action as a bonus action. You do not need cover or obscurement to use the Hide action.
• Your creature type is considered Undead

This form lasts for 1 minute or until the temporary hit points are reduced to 0. This feature can be used once per long rest.

reworked this feature :P

[kind spruce]

Wanted to ask for opinions on an exhaustion system (this is made for a very Dex and speed based campaign)

Creatures gain a level of exhaustion:
• When all movement has been used two turns in a row, their max drops by a softcap of 5ft. If the softcap is exceeded, they gain a level of exhaustion, dropping the softcap by another 5ft. Resets by resting for turn

• If they take more than 1/4 max hp in damage at once, or more than half current hp when above 35hp (Hit die for all characters is 1d10 and they started at Lvl 5)

Exhaustion table
Level 1: -2 to all rolls & -5ft

Level 2: Speed halved & lose reaction

Level 3: -5 to all rolls & -3 to all DCs

Level 4: Limited to one attack, -5ft & can only make an Action or Bonus Action per turn

Level 5: Speed reduced to 5ft, vulnerable to all damage & auto fail all saves

Level 6: Unconscious

[urban bay]

this is just a stronger version of the Form of Dread from the Undying Warlock

[true forge]

good (its for ranger)

[urban bay]

and also a stronger version of another Ranger subclass

that JUST gives you an extra d8

in damage

[true forge]

hunter?

[urban bay]

yeah

[true forge]

eh

[urban bay]

this is that and much more

[true forge]

thats just free forever

this is once per LR upon taking damage, min or until taking x damage

[urban bay]

even still, it may as well be a straight upgrade considering all the other perks

[true forge]

(tbh, hunter is bad so :P)

[urban bay]

even 1d6 extra cold damage would be pushing it on top of everything else

[urban bay]

also you're saying that like it's hard to take damage

lol

[true forge]

ik

[urban bay]

like imo, this is too much too soon

[true forge]

also, thats just drakewarden's drake reaction

which this is a dice tier above

[sullen echo]

I have to make a collection of swords relating to each non-physical damage type [Fire, Cold, Radiant, Etc]. This is one of my first large-scale homebrew thing so I was wondering if there's anything I should avoid weapons wise? (I basically need general advice so if that's possible it would be greatly appreciated)

[urban bay]

like if these were the amount of buffs the form had by Level 7 it would be fine

[true forge]

(but drakewarden abit better as its a meatshield and pet)

[scenic dew]

What herbs is this rouge smoking?

[sullen echo]

Liquidized black lotus mixed with wyvren blood

[true forge]

i mean, horizon walker can do 1d8 force and make all damage force :P (2d8 at higher level, which is alot better then this) for a BA (which rangers cant really use)

[kind spruce]

Would each sword have an ability based on the damage type, or do they just deal that type of damage?

[scenic dew]

Some competitive junkie shiet

[urban bay]

this isn't just about the damage being too high

[sullen echo]

Ability based on damage type most likely

[urban bay]

it's about the damage being ON TOP of all those defensive buffs

[sullen echo]

I was also thinking of maybe having some of them combine in pairs later on to help with progression?

[urban bay]

if it was Just the Damage... I mean other subclasses literally already do that so that's not out of the ballpark

[true forge]

its only 2 tho

[urban bay]

it's that plus a resistence, plus THP, plus Hide as Bonus without the need for any actual cover

you can see why this is a problem, right?

[sullen echo]

Also if it adds anything I think they can have some leeway on being better than average or good?

They are meant to be found in different planes individually

[scenic dew]

I got even better question. How far are you going with unique design per sword ?

[urban bay]

like I already said, all of these at once, even if it's 1 minute and once per LR are too much too soon

at these low levels it's basically a "Win encounter "button

[sullen echo]

Literally no limit to think of, just that each one has to be connected thematically with a damage type and has to be balanced

[true forge]

resistance depends on monster your fighting/place your in (cold isnt too common in most places)

THP is the only real one, which at max roll with +5, is 20 THP (2x10)

BA hide is not really too too useful

[urban bay]

at later levels it's fine, but you need to have some actual scaling

but this is really front loaded

[sullen echo]

It can be from a dagger to a greatsword if were talking weapon type

[urban bay]

wdym Hide it's not too useful? You specifically say that you don't need cover to Hide with this feature

which, first of, I'm not sure how that works unless you turn invisible

[sullen echo]

and technically a "blade"

[true forge]

for 2014

so hide is worse

alot worse

[scenic dew]

So could radiant sword be just some divine words written in godly language with a handle ?

[kind spruce]

If you aren't already planning to, scaling the power of a sword with the rarity of finding it or finding the place it'd be located in would be smart. I would suggest starting by making the weaker swords before moving onto the more powerful ones, because you can judge how much better you want them to be based on the worse ones

[kind spruce]

I'd love to see what that does 😭

[sullen echo]

Like just a clear blade with text making up the shape of the blade?

[kind spruce]

Someone read this please

[sullen echo]

Video game wire frame but words

[sullen echo]

I was planning on having each individual sword by default be in a different elemental plane

[kind spruce]

More like floating text that appears from the hilt and disappears the further it gets from the hilt making the length of your average longsword lol

[scenic dew]

Yeah, literally just a text with a handle.

[urban bay]

I mean if you want a quick fix to your feature, make the die a 1d4, make it scale as you level up, and add more uses of this feature when you level up

[kind spruce]

In that case would you be making more damage types or referring non specific ones to an element? Like water isn't considered a damage type. It usually uses slashing damage

[sullen echo]

Acid → Paraelemental Plane of Ooze
Cold → Paraelemental Plane of Ice
Fire → Elemental Plane of Fire
Lightning → Quasielemental Plane of Lightning
Thunder → Elemental Plane of Air

[scenic dew]

It fills your head with pre-recorded message on each hit.
"Would you have a moment to talk about out lord and savior, Yeshua of Nazareth"

[sullen echo]

Force → Astral Plane
Radiant → Positive Energy Plane
Necrotic → Negative Energy Plane
Poison → Negative Quasielemental Plane of Salt
Psychic → Astral Plane

[wet adder]

that makes sense

[kind spruce]

Cooked-

[sullen echo]

In a good way or bad way

[urban bay]

isn't it Bludgeoning? At least that's what Tidal Wave uses

[kind spruce]

Not your thing sorry 😭

[sullen echo]

Oh ok, good to know

[urban bay]

I mean I can see Slashing too if it's like... a blade of water

[scenic dew]

That fits. Poison users being salty about nearly everything being immune to poison.

[urban bay]

but for a wave crashing into you I think Bludgeoning makes more sense

[sullen echo]

Yeah

And I was planning on having progession be

Rare = 1 Blade

Very rare = blade mix

Legendary = all the blades combined

Fire/Radiant
Cold/Necrotic
Lightning/Thunder
Poison/Acid
Force/Psychic

But technically all of them are "artifact" rarity?

[scenic dew]

Now the most important question...can they merge all blades in to one and have Zenith that deals True Damage ?

[sullen echo]

^

[sullen echo]

Indeed

[urban bay]

anyway I've also been making subclasses

one dedicated to Water too

for the Cleric

[sullen echo]

I was thinking the final blade could choose true damage and automatically switch to the enemies vulnerability as the secondary damage

[urban bay]

an Ocean Domain, which is very distinct from Tempest I think

Ocean Domain (Cleric Subclass)
The seas of the world are full of life, stretch beyond what any one man can fathom, and are powerful enough to bring down the mightiest of man-made vessels with ease, should its ire be drawn. It is thus no wonder that many religions consider the oceans to be akin to a god of its own, one who can foster life and plenty, but also must be appeased if one is to take sustenance from it, lest it be crushed under its waves. Ships that bear important cargo that must be delivered also host Clerics of this Domain, for they can commune with the Ocean, ease safe passage, and heal any who falls ill during long voyages.

Domain Spells

Cleric Level
Spells
1st
Create or Destroy Water, Fog Cloud
3rd
Air Bubble, Warding Wind
5th
Water Walk, Tidal Wave
7th
Control Water, Freedom of Movement
9th
Maelstrom, Commune with Nature

Bonus proficiency (1st Level)
You gain proficiency in Survival and with the Navigator’s Tools. You also learn the Shape Water cantrip, which counts as a Cleric Cantrip for you.

Wave Flourish (1st Level)
At first level, you share the bounty of the ocean with those that travel with you. When you cast a spell of 1st level or higher that targets one or more willing creatures, you can grant one of those creatures temporary hit points equal to your cleric level. If that spell would grant Temporary Hit Points on its own, you add them to those granted by this feature. Once a creature gains temporary hit points from this feature, it can’t do so again until you finish a long rest. Creatures with Temporary Hit Points granted by your spells or features can breathe underwater and gain Swimming Speed equal to their walking speed.

[kind spruce]

I was wrong 💀
Tbf it depends on the spell or attack if you aren't counting official ones. Cause you have water that hits hard and then you have the kind of water that breaks away at rock.

[urban bay]

thoughts on this? I don't wanna paste in walls of text just yet, wanna go level by level

[sullen echo]

I do actually quite like the words as the radiant sword idea

[scenic dew]

I am actually surprised DnD doesn't have true damage

[urban bay]

Force is basically as close as you can get to that

[scenic dew]

Close , but ain't it. Crushed tomato on fries is close to ketchup, but not a ketchup.

[urban bay]

again tho does anyone have anything to say about this?

[sullen echo]

Wait really?

I thought true damaged was technically untyped damage

like the accelerate/decelerate spell