homebrew

[azure needle]

What if you had the person tap in a code that each person only gets an individual segment of?

[pine cargo]

Oh like each one get's a piece of the answer from the taps and they have to put it together to input the code to get out?

[azure needle]

Something like that, yeah

How confident are you that your party can solve a hard puzzle?

[pine cargo]

Pretty confident. I think adding the challenge of having earplugs and the pausing due to the wandering goatman will make it harder so I don't want it to be too difficult.

[azure needle]

Because you could do something where like, each tray has its own phrase carved into the metal along with a cooresponding sequence of Morse code (jumbled up so it isn't the same as normal Morse code), then they have to put the pieces of the cypher together by taking each individual letter from their phrases to crack the overall cypher for the code phrase from the fourth guy?

Like, player A has a phrase which gives them the tapping codes for A, C, B and X

Player B has J, L, Y, and O

And so on and so forth

[pine cargo]

Ohhhhh I gotcha

[azure needle]

Instead of phrases, you could make them like words instead so there's less letter overlap

Then, what if after that, they break the code and realize the fourth guy is asking a question, then they have to formulate the correct answer and convert it into the tapping code they just cracked?

[pine cargo]

I'm not sure I follow that piece

I do like the word idea though, that's probably what I'll do. Each morgue tray will have a number somewhere in it to indicate what number tray they are so help them if they get stuck finding out who's who

[azure needle]

Okay so moving off from this, the players are able to sort out which tapping combinations mean which letters, so they listen in on player four's tapping, and realize he's asking "HOW MANY FINGERS ON HAND" (sample question), so then they have to figure out the tapping combination that spells out "FIVE"

[azure needle]

That could be fun too

[pine cargo]

Oh I like that!!! That could be the second one since the morgue tray will only open one door with the answer and the person who gets let out will have to find the proper trays which their companions are in

Bless you, I've been working on this stupid puzzle for days. I hate puzzles lol I am very not good at them as a player

[azure needle]

Ahhh, so they'll have to tap their names out?

Or like the number tray they're in

Since y'all are in person

[pine cargo]

I was thinking the number tray they're in since their names are super long lol

[azure needle]

Sounds good! So then my only question would be, what would the trigger be for the fourth person being let out of their tray?

[pine cargo]

They all input the answer correctly: Goatman

Once they ALL get it then the one tray opens

[lone pebble]

I have a question about the d&d beyond homebrew stuff

[azure needle]

I see, okay so as I understand, the fourth PC is asking a question in tapping that is answered with "goatman", which then lets him out, and something tells him he needs to get each of them to tap out their number

You could add a whole new layer to this by making the fourth guy physically sit in another room

So he doesn't know who's tapping when

[pine cargo]

I was thinking of using a tap code grid to get them to realize the code to be released is goatman so each person will have a couple letters in their grid with maybe a clue or a little riddle to determine which letters each person has. And the person with the answer key will literally have the answer and have to find out who has what

Yeah! I was thinking of giving the person with the answer key headphones and I have a sheet as a room divider that you can see light through so the players will have a tea light that will be the "knocking"

[azure needle]

I like that a lot actually

Shut the lights out and have the only light come from that tealight lol

[pine cargo]

Thanks. First one shot so I'm excited. I try to go all out on special occasions lol. This is giving our DM a reast.

Yup!!

[azure needle]

Good luck on that🙏

[pine cargo]

Each encounter is based off one of the players fears. This is the fear of being locked in small spaces

The goatman is someone elses fear

[valid shard]

Lol hiiii

[azure needle]

shoot

[azure needle]

Interesting

[pine cargo]

Thank you again, that'd been bugging my brain

[lone pebble]

So if I publish a magic item I have created on D&D beyond does that mean that Wizards just owns it?

[azure needle]

You could be mean and have the goatman make whoever is afraid of him roll wisdom saves for fear

[pine cargo]

Oh I am. I have a fully fleshed out custom fear table for all four of them

[azure needle]

No problem🙏

[azure needle]

No it's not like they can publish it or something, it just means other players can find your stuff and use it if they'd like

[pine cargo]

If they fail the stealth check on him coming around they get pulled out and tied to a pyre (fear of fire)

[lone pebble]

Okay cool that what I thought it said but I wanted some clarification

[azure needle]

Steinhardts guide to the Eldrich hunt has a funny madness table that could be fun with a few tweaks

[lone pebble]

This sounds awesome

[azure needle]

You roll a d20 with your int and wisdom modifiers and on a fail, you roll on the madness table for a random outcome

You might latch onto the nearest parental figure in the room, or you may just straight up faint on the spot

[pine cargo]

Ahhhh I love this so much more than what I came up with

Oh yeah definitely using this, bless you

[pine cargo]

Thanks! I worked hard on it, I don't even know where I got the fear ideas from. I looked everywhere for a good halloween horror one shot but couldn't find much that really drew me in

[lone pebble]

Nah fr id love to play with you as a DM

I also havent played any D&D in almost 3 years

[true forge]

Bumping this

[lone pebble]

I had an item I wanted to publish for the Stranger Things competition

[azure needle]

The damage the wolves do could get a bonus equal to your PB

[lone pebble]

Anyway thank you all

[pine cargo]

How did I not know this existed. I'm doing a homebrew campaign that's lovecraftian and SCP-esque in nature and this is an absolute goldmine

[azure needle]

It's a really underrated book altogether, great lovecraftian/bloodborne vibes

Currently running a pact of the trigger undead warlock on a campaign atm

[pine cargo]

I....am really sad I didn't know this existed lol just glancing at it the Bard College of the Apocalypse looks absolutely amazing

[azure needle]

Living nightmare fighter has great flavor

Guardian angel domain and all that, all very well thought out

Crooked moon is also quite good, occultist wizard, path of the experiment barbarian (I've ran this one before, it's amazing), and some others

[pine cargo]

Even the weapons look well thought out!! I like the look of the Python Blade. It's a rapier, but also a whip lol

[azure needle]

Trick weapons, yeah

Something they got from bloodborne lol

I believe you can use a bonus action to switch its form from a rapier to a whip

There's quite a few of those kinds of weapons

[pine cargo]

I am still jaw dropped. I know what my homework is over the next couple weeks before my campaign starts. I might be revising a handful of things. I searched for eldritch and lovecraftian D&D stuff and this hasn't even been mentioned

[azure needle]

It was made by a fairly popular DND YouTuber

[true forge]

that is prob going to be apart of the 6th level (instead of PB its CHA mod

[azure needle]

Another cool thing you could do is give yourself a modified version of pact tactics that only applies to you when you're near your wolves

That way it promotes fighting with your pack

[true forge]

i mean, thats what the spell advantage thing was promoting lol

[azure needle]

oh, didn't see that

lemme reread

Oh, here we go I see

Yeah that's good

[true forge]

hmm, do you think for 6th, 1 sorc point for a single Dire Wolf instead of 2 normal ones is good (as apart of multiple options)

[azure needle]

Maybe give it the ability to cast touch spells through the wolves

[azure needle]

Maybe? But give it more health or something

[true forge]

that could get very crazy at 1st, but at 6th it might work

[azure needle]

Do the math to see what the dpr looks like between the two

[true forge]

i mean

[azure needle]

Mhm, then for the sorc spells you get around that level, you can add stuff like inflict wounds

Probably for the better

[true forge]

wolf is 2d4+2 with a DC 11 STR save or prone
dire is 2d6+3 with a DC 13 STR save or prone

so, as you can only command one wolf at a time if you have 2, Dire's DPR is higher on avarage (while also being 26 HP tankier)

[azure needle]

Honestly, I think having 2 wolves but only being able to control one at a time could get a bit clunky

What about if at 6th level, your connection to the wolves get better, and you can control them separately, and they go after you on your turn

[true forge]

its more for, you have one wolf there and the other there, which acts as meat shields and advantage givers

[azure needle]

Path of Ancestral Guardian from Grimhollow does something similar

[azure needle]

Then at that point the direwolf would kinda be a downgrade from that purpose

You only get one, it's large size so it could block ranged attacks

I'd say deepening your connection to the wolves you originally get as opposed to getting a stronger one would be more thematically strong

[true forge]

mounting, acting as more of tank, there is alot of benefits

[true forge]

ill have it as an option

Beast of the Forests

6th level Wolf King Bloodline feature
:
Your magic alters your canines's appearance and combat potential. When you use your Protect the Pack feature to summon the 2 wolves, you can spend 1-2 Sorcery Points to alter them. Choose an effect below for each Sorcery Point spent.

thats the feature

with about 6 or so options

[azure needle]

I like that idea, but I think it'll need some tweaking on the direwolf stat block

Maybe give it a reaction that allows it to take a hit for an allied creature that's within 5 feet of it

That, and have the health scale with your warlock level

[true forge]

sorcerer

[azure needle]

Mb I meant sorc

[true forge]

its a sorc sub (if the Bloodline didnt say that :P)

[azure needle]

I'd assume so by the sorcery points lol

[true forge]

that too lol

[azure needle]

Like, that barb subclass I was talking about gives the creature an ac of 12+PB, and HP equal to 5 plus 6x your barb level

[true forge]

Beast of the Forests

6th level Wolf King Bloodline feature
:
Your magic alters your canines' appearance and combat potential. When you use your Protect the Pack feature to summon the 2 wolves, you can spend 1-2 Sorcery Points to alter them. Choose an effect below for each Sorcery Point spent.

• Apex. Instead of 2 normal wolves, you summon a single Dire Wolf, in addition, the Dire Wolf gains extra AC equal to half your Charisma Modifier (min of +1).
• Tough. The wolves gain Temporary Hit Points equal to sorcerer level.
• Wrathful. The wolves can add your Charisma modifier to their attack an damage rolls (min of +1).
• Rider You can mount a wolf when it is summoned, this can only be done if you aren't a size larger then the wolf.
• Spelltouched If a summoned wolf is within 5 feet of a creature, you can cast a spell with a range of touch though the wolf, targeting that creature.
• Hunter. The wolves can detect invisible creatures as if they were visible and also gain Blindsight out to a range of 30 feet. This bonus extends to you for the duration of the Protect the Pack feature

i think thats fine for a 6th level

[azure needle]

You should specify whether or not you can choose several options at once

[true forge]

i mean

you can spend 1 or 2 points

if you spend 1, you get one option, 2=2 options

you can spend 1-2 Sorcery Points to alter them. Choose an effect below for each Sorcery Point spent.

thought that was clear enough

[azure needle]

Yeah mb it's just late over here and I'm tired

[true forge]

very fair lol

[azure needle]

Rider may open some difficulties because it implies a medium creature riding a medium mount, I'd just collapse it into apex

Also, you should specify how it works if you choose apex and one other ability

Like, does it mean the effect is applied to just the wolf?

[true forge]

, this can only be done if you aren't a size larger then the wolf.

hence why this is there

[azure needle]

Still though, medium and medium is the same size

Is that normally allowed for mounted?

[true forge]

no, but in this case its allowed

special ruling

[true forge]

how so?

[azure needle]

Idk, it feels like it opens some potential issues. I'm drawing a blank here, but do these wolves work like shadow sorc where they're linked to a target?

[true forge]

nope, just commandable summons

think timed drakewarden

[azure needle]

No, actually I take that back

It's clear enough

[true forge]

(number of hours equal to CHA mod is how long they last or until dropped to 0 Hp)

[azure needle]

For rider though, maybe just tack on the benefits of Mounted Combatant

Minus the advantage

[true forge]

eh, mounted combat is confusing enough as is

also makes the sorc unreasonable tanky that way

[azure needle]

I mean, it's just advantage on saving throws to stay on your mount and a reaction to take a hit for it

[azure needle]

It's the other way around, you take damage for the mount

You can make use of a shield spell investment that way

[true forge]

You are a dangerous foe to face while mounted. While you are mounted and aren't incapacitated, you gain the following benefits:

• You have advantage on melee attack rolls against any unmounted creature that is smaller than your mount.
• You can force an attack targeted at your mount to target you instead.
• If your mount is subjected to an effect that allows it to make Dexterity saving throw to take only half damage, it instead takes no damage if it succeeds on the saving throw, and only half damage if it fails.

thats mounted combatant

no reaction in sight, just, target mount instead

[azure needle]

I was getting it mixed up with cavalier's 7th level abolity

[true forge]

lol

[azure needle]

Nah it's the other way around, look

[true forge]

ah

fair enough

[azure needle]

You can force an attack targeted at YOUR MOUNT to target YOU instead

So then, it links up where you can use like sbarbs, shield, or ea

Synergy

[teal garden]

Hey, would anyone mind if I bounce some ideas off of them?

I'm working on my homebrew setting and currently trying to determine the different realms. I want to add stuff like Tieflings, Hexbloods, and Aasimar to my setting, but was having a hard time justifying their existence. So, I connected them to one of the 6 realms of good and evil. My issue is finding 3 more races to balance things out. As I'm doing this, I'm now thinking about reworking my realms and need someone to help me think. The realms are;

Hades - Pure Evil
The Abyss - Chaotic Evil
The Hells - Lawful Evil
Heaven - Lawful Good
Faewyld - Chaotic Good
Elysium - Pure Good

If you have questions, I welcome them because I just need help thinking rn

[azure needle]

The hells being lawful is a lil questionable

[teal garden]

The reason why is I'm connecting them to angels, which are Lawful Good. Each realm is a flipside of another.

The hells are the reverse of Heaven, the abyss is the reverse of faewyld, and Hades is the reverse of Elysium.

Hence the creatures that inhabit them, by nature, are similar but opposite.

Yes, a devil will follow rules, but it will also exploit loop holes and do the worst things with them.

[azure needle]

If we're talking forgotten realms, the shadowfell is the inverse of feywylds

Shadar-kai vs Eladrin

[lucid cradle]

Faewyld sounds like more of a place of chatoic neutral and I find Elysium might be more chaotic tbh

chaotic good for Elysium, mind you

[teal garden]

I borrowed the names for now, might change them later

[azure needle]

This makes even more sense when you consider that the former are corrupted elves and the latter are the primordial

Kinda like a fallen angel type duality

[teal garden]

In my world, Hades is kinda the shadowfell.

Being the world of pure evil, I made its inhabitants, what I'm currently calling Umbrans, are like shadow creatures. Was thinking of using yugoloths, but they're all over the place.

[azure needle]

Also, how exactly does chaotic evil differ from pure evil?

Same thing with lawful good and pure good

[stuck raptor]

hades bad pr strikes again

[teal garden]

Pure evil exists to simply do evil. Their whole goal is to create as much evil, and commit as many evil deeds as possible. Pure good is the inverse.

Chaotic evil is evil without any goal at all. It just is. It's corruption, wishing to spread simply for no reason.

[scenic urchin]

not to be confused with Absolute Evil, and Dark Evil, ofc

[teal garden]

Lawful Good, by contrast, has a goal of making everything in existence good by objective means, aka whatever the gods deem is good and evil.

And Lawful evil is the same but with evil.

[azure needle]

So we're saying the planes that represent pure good and evil represent the will of powers beyond even the gods

that supercede them rather

[scenic urchin]

and then law also separates out between internal law and external law as well

[teal garden]

Yep, the raw emotions of Gods and mortals that give everything existence.

[azure needle]

interesting

[teal garden]

Without those two worlds, none would exist.

Without one of those two worlds, none would exist.

[gloomy flower]

how would you guys do the OMORI emotions in dnd? currently my idea is:

Happy:
+1 to skill checks and saving throws per level
-1 to attack rolls per level
+5 speed per level

Sad:
+1 to AC per level
-5 to speed per level
On critical hit against a monster with the spellcasting feature, remove one spell slot of the lowest level it has remaining

Angry:
+1 to damage per level
-1 to AC per level

(there are 3 tiers per emotion, which is what "level" is referring to)

i'm asking since i'm running a campaign based off of OMORI and wanna implement the emotions

[azure needle]

I think my only real concern is the feywilds? Mainly because due to how randomly "Fey ancestry" gets tossed around everywhere from hexbloods to bugbears to elves, I feel like it'd lean neutral

[gloomy flower]

feywild isn't really on the evil/good spectrum

[azure needle]

Chaotic neutral, but still neitral

Yeah

[gloomy flower]

moreso on chaos/law

[teal garden]

I'm only giving fey ancestry to what were once, or still are, inheritly good creatures.

[gloomy flower]

lower planes are for evil
feywild is for chaos
upper planes are for good
mechanus is for law

[teal garden]

Goblinoids are born from a creature of the abyss in my world.

[azure needle]

But like even hexbloods are cursed by fey magic

[teal garden]

Mhm, and they were going to be originated from their. Like tieflings were from the hells, and Aasimar from heaven.

[scenic urchin]

feywild is happy, shadowfell is sad

[teal garden]

Hexbloods would be the offspring of a Fae spirit and a mortal, tieflings the same with devils, aasimar the same with angels.

All cursed and blessed in their own ways.

[azure needle]

For pure good and pure evil, what are you gonna do for that?

[teal garden]

That's where I'm drawing a blank you see.

And the abyss.

Since tieflings are of the hells, I need a counterpart for the abyss.

[azure needle]

The abyss is the inverse of the feywilds, so idk maybe something Draconic?

[teal garden]

Elaborate

That's an interesting thought and I'd like to hear more.

[scenic urchin]

woulda thought mt celestia was the inverse of the abyss, not the feywilds

the abyss is a big hole full of dark evil, and mt celestia is a reverse hole full of light good

[gloomy flower]

OH ALSO WITH THIS!
your emotion can give you advantage/disadvantage on other creatures!
happy has advantage against angry has advantage against sad has advantage against happy, and the other way around is disadvantage
it is also really easy to change one's emotions whether via techniques (essentially special actions that take from a pool named juice that only recharges with some items and a long rest) or some items

[azure needle]

In the same way that hexbloods are derrived from the mixing of fey and mortal ancestry, we could say dragonborns are the inverse of that. Where feys are characterized as careful, planning creatures, dragons are seen more as destructive forces of nature which allign chaotic evil

And you'd get the same kind of variation in ancestry

Kobolds, yuan-ti, etc

[teal garden]

In my setting, the abyss is an infinite void of realms of evil, corruption, and chaos.

Faewyld is an infinite void of chaos, nature, and goodness.

[teal garden]

Oh dude, you are onto something

I never even considered the idea of making dragons demonic in nature

I'm using that.

I am 100% using that

[azure needle]

Less demonic, because I feel as if that implies some sort of thought or planning. The reasons for why dragons and others of the sort are depicted as being evil in media is because they're rampaging forces of nature that follow no code

Think like Godzilla

[teal garden]

All I meant was their origin could've been abyssal.

Like goblins in my world

[azure needle]

Ah icic

[teal garden]

Not demons per say, but definitely related to something there

[azure needle]

Yuh

[teal garden]

Dude, that also means I can put dragonborn in my world

[azure needle]

pushing sister down stairs:

-1 to sister count

[teal garden]

That is so damn smart

[gloomy flower]

spoilers man

[teal garden]

Now I'm just left with hades and elysium.

[azure needle]

You'd need something with a strong sense of duality

[teal garden]

Hmm, I'd need two somethings.

I might just have to make 2 completely homebrew races

Although, before I do that, I'd have to figure out what populates Elysium.

Like, the rest came naturally

But pure good is hard because angels already populate heaven.

And I just had an idea.

Umbrans, creatures of pure darkness and evil.

Idk a name for them yet, but perhaps a creature of pure light? Like, perhaps they're such Radiant creatures of good and light, they have to shield themselves from any outside eyes as not to hurt them. Therefore, their offspring, non-corporeal like them at first, inhabit a likewise body to shield their inner light

Warforged (definitely gonna change the name.)

[azure needle]

Warforged is interesting

[teal garden]

And perhaps the children of umbrans do likewise

Their non-corporeal forms inhabit the decaying leftovers of life to hide their inner darkness

The undead.

[azure needle]

I mean that makes sense, if the hells represents death then what comes beyond it could reasonably be undeath

[teal garden]

And it works perfectly for my setting where the undead have such a sway in the world

Dude you have no idea how helpful you have been man

Honestly, just having someone to talk to helps me think a lot better, and you have been wonderful

I'm gonna write this stuff down before I forget it

[lucid cradle]

You could call them Empyreals and cover them in some form of fabric that conceals their radiance, waving about elegantly

if theyre that bright

[rough pelican]

I was going to enter that Hellfire contest but it's not available in my country 😅

I still made a thing.

[teal garden]

I could give them different subraces for the different forms they could take!

And same for the umbran ones!

[azure needle]

Preciate that🙏

[teal garden]

That would allow for different forms of playable constructs and undead!

[gloomy flower]

this has snowballed into making all the omori skills for 5e

[teal garden]

Genius work there man! Great ideas!

[gloomy flower]

don't help me i'm doing this to myself

[lucid cradle]

I'm heavily focusing on the fabric part, as beings of pure good would likely rather not wear armor like angels and strive to spread good through diplomacy rather than violence, but that's up to you

[teal garden]

The creatures of pure good, like those of pure evil, would wish to spread good through good means. But, those means can be Lawful or chaotic. A righteous war against an evil enemy is just as good as a diplomatic meeting between two enemy nations coming to peace.

[azure needle]

are you gonna make a pushing your sister down the stairs skill🐔

[gloomy flower]

not
not an omori skill but ok man

[teal garden]

They're about the means and what not, sure, but good is good to them. Deeds done in the name of good are equally as noble as those done without any reason.

[lucid cradle]

true, then in this case you'd have to definitely think about their methods of combat and aggression if it comes to that

matter of fact this has given me some good ideas for concept art thank you

[teal garden]

Man you just gave me a lot of help

I should be thanking you

[lucid cradle]

all good bro I like your ideas so im happy to help

[teal garden]

Although, now that I think about it, Empyreals (using that name btw) would be so very stressed out in my world lol

They're literally getting dropped into essentially the bad timeline for fantasy worlds

[lucid cradle]

they likely would be, but their feelings heavily depend on how much youre gonna limit the interactions of other planes

[teal garden]

That's true

[lucid cradle]

I find this part pretty complex in worldbuilding, trying to figure out how to set proper planar laws of intervention

and good reasons for doing so

[teal garden]

My idea was that the gods and creatures of the outer planes can only do so much to intervene, but only with the help of mortals.

Hence when something is so dire they have to bend the rules, they sire a child.

[stuck raptor]

i think this topic is more a convo for #dm-world-building

[teal garden]

Definitely

[lucid cradle]

lets move there then

[azure needle]

Sorta like warlock patrons or gods creating divine soul sorcs

[teal garden]

Kinda ye, why don't you join us in the world building channel?

[azure needle]

Sure

[golden temple]

hm,,

tthis could probably go in some other channels, but i'm trying to figure out what amenities could go onto a ship,,

or, facilities, rather- -

[trim arrow]

is there a way to make the bolded number go up on a weapon using a feature? 2d4+4 piercing damage? i want the weapon to do 2d4+6 piercing damage

[golden temple]

, , , ,?

i don't understand this question,,

[trim arrow]

is imgur banned in this channel?

[golden temple]

yyou can send links to it,,

[trim arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/6f7ehlD

i want that to be a 6

[golden temple]

ahh,,

i think you'd go to #ddb-support for that,,

nnot all of us use it here,,

[golden temple]

i don't know what that's supposed to entail,,,

[fossil seal]

I always though sorcerers should have like a little bit more sorcery points or regain them in some way besides long rest and i thought about...

When ever you take a short rest you can spend a hit die to regain 1 sorcery point

Sooo you can regain all your sorcery points on a short rest but you get no healing out of it

Good if theres no combat and you just want spell slots or meta magic options

[peak inlet]

I mean you can already recover them using spell slots

[fossil seal]

Or alternatively regain a number of sorcery points equal to the hit dice you spend healing

[fossil seal]

Yeah but in my opinion its not enough

Its also your main feature

[peak inlet]

hit dice are pretty expensive, but you can add it to your game if you’re the DM

[fossil seal]

Youre supposed to use it with meta magic not just to recover spell slots as thats just kinda borning

[fossil seal]

I think its good enough no heals but you get more spells

[white bison]

Sorcery points are already plenty imo

[fossil seal]

I just needed some peoples thoughts on it

[white bison]

Exp if you consider spell slot conversion, you get a lot more spell slots than other classes

[peak inlet]

I tend to bank hit dice for Arcane Vigor, I would probably use hit dice for Sorcery Points if I was low

[fossil seal]

Yeah i see that issue but i didnt like the converting that much

Id make it more expensive ig

Also wizards can restore spell slots in a similar fashion

[white bison]

They can’t, they need to short rest, sorcery points are istantaneous

[peak inlet]

I mean I already regain all my Sorcery Points on a Short Rest

[fossil seal]

Yeah whenever you take a short rest

I said

[peak inlet]

just multiclass into Warlock

[fossil seal]

No heals tho

[fossil seal]

I suppose..

I was planning on buffing almost every class and ill keep that in the back of my mind

[peak inlet]

yeh, that’s kind of what Sorlock kinda resolves for both classes

and why it’s so popular as a multiclass

[white bison]

Not really

Sorlock is popular because hexblade works both as an armor dip and as a resourceless way of providing damage and control

Sorcery points are kinda just a little bonus you get

In fact if you couldn’t use hexblade i’d take a different class as you won’t get the armor prof this way

[peak inlet]

I’m talking about 2024 which doesn’t have Hexblade yet

[white bison]

I wouldn’t dip warlock without armor access, i’d dip smth else

Warlock dips being good is dependent on it giving armor prof, not sorcery points or whatever

[primal osprey]

Currently reworking silvered weapons, but I'm currently torn on what to pick for their main mechanic now that non-silvered resistance/immunity is gone in 2024

I considered making undead, fiends and monstrosities vulnerable to the damage of the silvered weapon, but that might be too crazy

Especially in the hands of a rogue or fighter

[white bison]

You can make silvered weapons do one more dice of damage against certain kinda of enemies and stop regen for a turn

[primal osprey]

Ooh yeah, good call

Now that I think about it I could just make it work like the dragonslayer or giant crusher but against undead and fiends

and of course stop regeneration. Ty

[white bison]

Np

[primal osprey]

should monstrosity be included in the list of creature types this helps defeat?

Lycanthropes are monstrosities, right?

[true portal]

yes they are

[primal osprey]

Ty

I think I might also have the weapon bypass resistance to BPS

And I just realised that these silvered weapons will be pretty good when fighting a tarrasque

[true forge]

Okie, I have something for 6th level about you being able to mount a wolf unless your larger then it, so, by that logic, safe to say medium sized creatures are able to mount a wolf?

(for a wolf summoning sorc sub im making)

[white bison]

When i dm, i love making mechanics like this so players start to prepare if they know what they’re gonna face

It’s the reason why i buff consumable crafting as well

[coral jackal]

hello people of the homebrew, I have made an thing. the Oath of Semblance paladin, I just need some input on it like if it's balanced, if it needs any changes, etc.
https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/q7iU2WppoDJ-
there also wasn't enough space for a desc of what being Fractured is, so I put it here -> https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/8zT86-m89Zvu instead

[primal osprey]

You can only mount creatures that are one size larger than you or bigger. For a medium creature to mount this wolf, it would need to be size large

[true forge]

gods mounting rules suck so much

[primal osprey]

Also I am finished with making the silvered weapons revamp. Gonna post here for feedback

[primal osprey]

I think it makes sense

[true forge]

why cant i just have cool medium creature ride another medium creature :(

[primal osprey]

Silvered Weapon (Equipment)

Weapon (Any Simple or Martial), Rare

An alchemical process has bonded silver to this magic weapon. When you hit an attack against a fiend, undead, or monstrosity, the weapon deals an extra 2d6 of damage of the weapon’s type, this damage bypasses resistance to bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage. Additionally, if the fiend, undead or monstrosity has the Regeneration ability, it does not function until the end of its next turn.

[white bison]

I think spatial grasp might be too strong

Overall this subclass is crazy good but nothing too broken outside of that

1 minute speed reduction to 0 without save is crazy

Can turn any creature into a sitting duck

[peak inlet]

would this be a magic item?

Cloak

Simple Shield (Does not require proficiency)

This cloak is held in your hand. While worn, it gives you a +1 to AC, and can be used as a Martial Weapon with the Thrown (10/30) property. On a hit, it does not deal damage; instead, the creature has the Blinded condition until they use the Utilize action to remove the cloak or it’s removed by other means.

[peak inlet]

I think it has too much for a Rare Magic item

[primal osprey]

Huh, I thought it was too little

[white bison]

I don’t think it meets the reqs for a magic item

[primal osprey]

I like it

[coral jackal]

what about halving it on a successful save instead then?

[primal osprey]

I think so. I think it's good

[white bison]

It is a good item but it feels pretty standard

I like the concept

[peak inlet]

I’m surprised it doesn’t already exist, it’s a thing that’s very popular in Ren-type play

[white bison]

Like, magic items do something magic

[primal osprey]

There's literally a magic item that's armour that emits smoke. I think this is at least above that

[peak inlet]

I made it to be a standard item, I was worried it’s too powerful as a regular piece of equipment

[white bison]

This is a cloak you throw on people

[primal osprey]

Actually, I see your point now

[peak inlet]

I mean if it was an Uncommon Magic item, it would be thrown without leaving your hand

[primal osprey]

Although to be honest, there's nothing else it could be. It can't be a normal item

[white bison]

I don’t think so, it has less ac than shield and it still takes your action, which means you’re not attacking that turn. Normal items can also have high prices like a plate armor btw

[peak inlet]

like releasing an opaque projectile

[white bison]

The problem is that speed to 0 for 1 minute without any repeating save is incredibly strong, which wouldn’t be a problem if the subclass had less powerful other features

I’d wait for another opinion on this

[peak inlet]

I know, I would probably put this at around 50gp or so, but the rules around getting and creating magic items is also different and even the more expensive non-magic items are easier to acquire than magic items

and if it’s not a magic item, it would have a +1, 2, 3 form

[primal osprey]

I like it. It's fine

[peak inlet]

and would apply to all the random magic item enhancements for shields

[white bison]

That heavily depends on the campaign you’re playing, if it’s an item you’re making for your players you should decide the type

[coral jackal]

I'm thinking making the save repeating is a good idea, I'll just do that for now I think, thanks

[peak inlet]

I’m just making it in general because I couldn’t find anything that fills that niche

my question for if it should be a magic item pertained more to whether it should be allowed to be magically enhanced than anything else

[true forge]

***Rider .***You can cause one of the summoned wolves to grow to the next size category up (Large), the wolf cannot grow beyond this size. In addition, when you cause it to grow, you can mount it.

so something like that you think?

[primal osprey]

Sounds good to me

[true forge]

Rider You can mount a wolf when it is summoned, this can only be done if you aren't a size larger then the wolf.

thats the before

[peak inlet]

actually, it doesn’t have +1 on it

the thing is those usually only have 1 type of enemy

and those enemy types are pretty rare and menacing

[primal osprey]

I say the lack of a bonus would make up for it

[peak inlet]

like giants and dragons

the ones you have are pretty common types

[primal osprey]

Yeah, I just wanted to do what would make sense for a silver weapon

I could make it very rare

[peak inlet]

too weak for that

[primal osprey]

Then rare is a good middle

[peak inlet]

you might just have to test it I guess, I would say if you gotta change anything it’s the extra damage

[primal osprey]

I’m thinking of using it in my Orcus campaign

[peak inlet]

I personally would put it at 1d6

but I’m usually a bit more cautious with my stuff

[primal osprey]

Eh I’m too cautious too. I’m just trying out new stuff, trying to make my items more powerful

[peak inlet]

what Silvered Weapons do rn is crits deal an extra die of damage

[primal osprey]

Yes. They suck

Too situational

First the creature needs to be shapeshifter, then you need to land a 20

[peak inlet]

which is too boring even for a common magic item

[primal osprey]

Specifically 20, not even a general crit so it can’t work with champion fighter

[peak inlet]

I mean it’s a common magic item, they’re not supposed to do anything

but the flavor isn’t even there

[primal osprey]

Yeah. That’s why I want to fix it

I think mine is okay for now

Heck, it might even be too weak due to the lack of a bonus

[peak inlet]

I’m pretty sure it’s a general crit

[primal osprey]

Maybe I change the extra damage to 1d8 but add a bonus

[primal osprey]

Oop you’re right

[peak inlet]

make it 1d8 extra damage but the weapon is also the standard Silvered Weapon /j

[primal osprey]

Well if I have no bonus then I’ll keep the extra damage

Or I make it uncommon

Nah I like it the way it is

Ty anyway for the suggestions

[peak inlet]

honestly, it’s probably fine, but in some campaigns, it’s just a better Flametongue since it doesn’t require attunement

[primal osprey]

Good point, hmmm

[peak inlet]

if it was 1 enemy type, it would be completely fine

[primal osprey]

Yeah, 3 is a little crazy

[peak inlet]

it’s the fact it’s 3 different types of enemies

1 type of enemy and you can give it the +1 bonus

[primal osprey]

Okay, I can make it very rare and add a bonus to make it match the power

[peak inlet]

probably would work actually

[primal osprey]

But it would just be wrong if it wasn't good against undead, fiend, and lycanthropes

I can't drop any of them

[peak inlet]

although it does mean you get it way later

[primal osprey]

Yeah

Maybe for lore purposes I could change it to like "Blessed Silver Weapon" so it isn't as easy to make

[peak inlet]

I mean it could just be a Rune-lain Silvered Weapon, the runes are what make them so powerful against that specific type of monster

[primal osprey]

Oh that's even more badass. Ty

Rune-lain silvered weapon. Good name

[peak inlet]

and then there would be the 3 different types of runes, you can also just say the Very Rare version is the same weapon with all 3 runes

gives more of the Fizban upgradable item vibe

[primal osprey]

Oooh, yeah. Ty

Should it be +1 or +2 for the Very rare version?

I'm thinking +2

[peak inlet]

ngl, some magic items are more powerful than I would assume and others are much weaker than I would assume

lemme see if there’s a type-killer Very Rare Magic item you can compare it to

[white bison]

A rare dragon’s wrath weapon deals 1d6 extra damage against any creature as well as being a +1 weapon and an upgradable weapon

2d6 extra damage against certain types of creatures is not broken at all

You could even argue it is weak for a rare weapon

[primal osprey]

Okay, I think I've settled

Unless I really want to, I'm not touching it

[peak inlet]

this is what I’m saying, Executioner’s Axe is Humanoids get 2d6 extra damage and you get tempHP

[peak inlet]

which I think those 3 types of enemies vs. Humanoids is about the same abundance

Executioner’s Axe is +1, so I would say this is also +1

[primal osprey]

My first thought was "elden ring reference?" 😭

Oki, I'm happy now. Ty all

[peak inlet]

Flametongue is 2d6 on all enemies and it’s attunement

you’re also forgetting the heal block and resistance ignoring

I def think heal block is pretty huge

so is resistance ignoring

[white bison]

Heal block is fine, there are usually more ways to stop it like radiant damage or acid damage, which cantrips can deal

As for resistance ignoring, there’s very little that can resist magical BSP in the first place

That’s not gonna come up often, if it’s gonna come up at all

[peak inlet]

it ignores all sources of resistance

this includes magical sources

reactions, etc.

[peak inlet]

plus, using a cantrip means you need to have picked the cantrip, and then spend an Action every turn casting it

pretty limiting

whereas this is dealing 4d6, maybe 3d6 on a light weapon

[white bison]

Again, this will come up like once in a whole campaign, there’s not many sources of magical BSP resist

[white bison]

The cantrips that deal those damage types are the ones people pick anyways

And it’s not that big of a cost to cast a cantrip or a spell with ur action

Keep in mind that this also requires you to be in melee range of an enemy and attack them

And usually enemies of those types are way stronger in melee

[peak inlet]

where does it say that?

[white bison]

Overall i’d put this on the weaker side of rare weapons

[white bison]

To use this effect with a ranged weapon, you need silvered ammunition, which is crazy expensive considering it is a rare consumable

A rare consumable is half the price of a rare magic item iirc

[primal osprey]

I was about to mention that it says any simple or martial which includes ranged weapons but then I remembered the ammo needs to be silvered, not the actual ranged weapon

[peak inlet]

yeh but you can still throw daggers

[primal osprey]

I don’t mind keeping it like this. My undead are weak enough that I’m happy for it to easily destroy them and my fiends are strong enough that this is a big help

[peak inlet]

if you’re in a bind, it’s usable at range

[primal osprey]

And using this against a Tarrasque would be awesome

[white bison]

Sure, but no class uses daggers as its main source of damage so you’d have to spend money on a side weapon

[peak inlet]

if you’re straight up attacking in melee, it’s still giving you a +7 DPR per hit over regular weapons

[white bison]

I’d also make it a +1 weapon tbh, it is a very good concept

[peak inlet]

again, Executioner’s Axe is Very Rare

[primal osprey]

I’m just saying a rune-lain silvered dagger would be very good here

[peak inlet]

Flametongue is attunement

[primal osprey]

Because it does 2d6 + 1d4 damage that cannot be resisted

Well, resisted by fiends, undead or monstrosities

[peak inlet]

those are 3 pretty common enemy types in campaigns where this type of weapon would come up

[primal osprey]

I wouldn’t try to use this on a celestial Empyrean

I just realised stuff like Krakens also qualify for this

Hmmm

Maybe it could specify only monstrosities that can shapeshift

Or just fiends, undead, and creatures that can shapeshift

Rip changelings

No more Tarrasque slaying :(

[peak inlet]

yeh, monstrosities are pretty broad

[primal osprey]

You’re right. I’m changing it to only undead, fiends, and creatures that can shapeshift

[midnight magnet]

I'm making a custom devil fruit concept for this one piece campaign im in but im really struggling on making level 10 gimmicks to make it scale in strength well with the rest of the crew without being too weak or OP

[peak inlet]

I mean you can keep monstrosities, monster hunting does involve monstrosities often

also, being an anti-Tarrasque weapon is pretty funny

[primal osprey]

I can’t remember the folklore of silver, but I think I heard “and thus silver became the bane of all creatures unholy” and let’s be honest, a lot of monstrosities are pretty unholy

-# probably why they’re called monstrosities

[primal osprey]

And players need all the help they can get against one of those

[white bison]

And dragonwrath is rare

[peak inlet]

especially if they’re fighting in melee

[peak inlet]

the DM isn’t giving this out as a rare magic item

and if they are, then the “upgradable” part isn’t part of it

[white bison]

Raw, a dragon’s wrath weapon can increase its rarity by being steeped in a dragon’s hoard

[white bison]

Also i have zero clue what this means

Unless you mean those are usually given out as uncommon items

[peak inlet]

it doesn’t abide by regular magic item rules

[white bison]

It’s still a rare

[peak inlet]

and they’re usually not purchased or crafted

[peak inlet]

and it’s fine being rare, it has a +1 bonus in place of extra damage + resistance ignore + heal block

[white bison]

Which only apply against some kinds of creatures

While its properties apply against anything

[peak inlet]

1/4 of all creatures

[white bison]

And again, the last two won’t apply nearly as often as you think

[peak inlet]

that are especially common

[white bison]

Even at high levels magical bps resistance is almost non existent

[peak inlet]

all I said is that it should have +1 bonus but only be to 1 enemy type

Dragon slayer is 3d6 +1 against dragons

Giant slayer is 2d6 + Topple

both with limited weapon selections

[white bison]

Just checked, the total of monsters for those three categories that have even one type of magical bps which are above cr8 is 7

If you only consider 24, it is 4

[peak inlet]

that doesn’t really matter

idk what tables you play in where they only run Monster Manual enemies without modifications

[true forge]

Dire Circumstances

14th level Wolf King Bloodline feature
:
Your feral nature spawns more furious allies. The wolves summoned from the Protect the Pack now become Dire Wolves.
:
When you cast a Sorcerer spell of 1st level or higher, your summoned wolves gain some of your knowledge, until the start of their next turn, your summoned wolves can act independently from you but they are still friendly towards you and allies, as a short telepathic link is created from your magic.

i think that makes sense

[white bison]

Who modifies monsters to be worse 😭

Magical bps resist is stupid imo

And i don’t see how homebrew monsters are relevant here

[peak inlet]

that’s the only type of BPS resist to begin with in 2024

[peak inlet]

how is it worse to have more resistances?

[peak inlet]

it is not a characteristic of BPS to be lowly resisted

unlike Force for example

so homebrew and new monsters coming out can easily have more BPS resistances

very casually

[white bison]

Because martials don’t have alternatives, unlike a caster which can just switch to a different damage type

[peak inlet]

especially in 2024

[white bison]

Also it has been a trend throughout 2014 to have magical bps resistance be almost non existent

I doubt 24 will be different

For the reasons i listed

[brittle plinth]

hi!!! i want to ask for feedback for a bbeg, but i can't send photos, where should i go?

[peak inlet]

that’s not quite true

other than ranged attackers, they do have 3 choices for damage types

[white bison]

That is only true on the surface

Unlike casters, martials feats and other stuff such as fighting style often benefit only 1/2 weapon types

Switching to another weapon just means you perform worse

[peak inlet]

the archetypes they benefit usually aren’t tied to their damage type

[white bison]

While i have no penalty for casting synaptic static rather than eldritch blast

[peak inlet]

only 3 feats do that, one for each

[white bison]

And on top of that, when you account for magic items, you need to invest in a secondary weapon as well

Casters don’t need that

So yeah, magical bps res is bad game design imo

[peak inlet]

casters need to invest spells

[white bison]

Even if you took only the optimal spells in your class, you’d have something for every enemy

[peak inlet]

the 2024 design is moving towards making Martials want to change their weapons more

enemies having B or P or S resistances is very likely

there are already enemies without 2/3 resistances

similarly to how a caster would have to dip lower to deal with stuff that resist their main damage type

Martials should also be dipping lower sometimes

[white bison]

Could be, i don’t play 2024 a lot as i don’t like the new rules, but that won’t stop magical bps res from being bad game design

[peak inlet]

that’s good design actually

[white bison]

It wouldn’t

Casters never have to dip lower

Unless you specifically make a monster to counter everything they have

Which, on top of being a stupid thing to do, is also bad game design for the same reason

[peak inlet]

how many damaging spells do your casters grab?

Radiant resistance forces Clerics to use Force spells to deal damage for example

[white bison]

Not a lot, but even if you can’t deal damage what’s stopping you from using a control spell? Martials don’t have the option to switch to control or buffs

Radiant resistance just means a cleric would concentrate on bless or smth like that

Martials can’t do this switch

[peak inlet]

they can just target another enemy

[warped void]

This is homebrew. Where do I share statblocks I made?

[peak inlet]

they can also do a lot of things depending on their class

Martials do have utility

[white bison]

Most of the things martials can do boil down to damage

[peak inlet]

you can share a link in this chat

[white bison]

Utility is minimal and in combat utility is even less and only some subclasses have it

[warped void]

Cool, well here's one I made.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/5891536-burning-maiden

[white bison]

Also the whole targeting another enemy is eh

[peak inlet]

and again, they can use their other weapon

that’s 1 rarity lower

they’re still doing everything as normal, just at lower output

it’s not going to kill them

[white bison]

Yes, but it is still bad game design

Ur nerfing someone without any reason

Just for the sake of it

You’re not pushing someone to think about an option that can work in that scenario like you would do with a caster

You’re just telling someone that now their character is worse

Penalties without rewards are bad game design

This is putting a penalty on someone without any particular reason

[peak inlet]

you aren’t nerfing the person, they can still choose to attack another creature, they also get to use stuff that they don’t usually use

nerfing the character would be if all the enemies resist their damage

and in all combats

[white bison]

The stuff they don’t normally use is just a weaker version of the stuff they normally use

[peak inlet]

you have 2 weapon masteries at least, not a single class only has 1

there’s a reason for that

[white bison]

When all you do is damage there’s barely any difference between a dagger and a greatsword outside of damage output

Doing the same thing at a lower output just feels bad

Even if it is different on paper

[peak inlet]

I completely disagree with that take, the most interesting session I’ve had in a long time is when I had an anti-magic dungeon against my 6 spellcaster group with 1 martial

limiting them and getting them to do stuff differently isn’t bad design unless you make it that way

[white bison]

If you limit characters unequally, it is bad game design

If you put the same level of restrictions on the whole party, it’s different

[peak inlet]

it’s like saying Magic Resistance is bad game design because a character who mainly uses saving throw spells can no longer use the same spells

[white bison]

Again, casters are different since they have so many options

[peak inlet]

oh no, they have to use their slightly less powerful attack roll spells

[white bison]

You can resist st spells? Well i have wall of force, summon spells, area denial spells

Limits on casters are good because they have a lot of options of equal strength

Limits on martials force them to use strictly inferior options

[peak inlet]

you are talking as if you only play games with level 10+ characters

[white bison]

Even low level chars have a lot of options

That don’t necessarily rely on saving throws/attack rolls

Entangle, web, bless

Unseen servant

[peak inlet]

Unseen Servant?

[white bison]

Drop marbles or caltrops on the ground, destroys low level encounters

Also cantrips are good damage at low levels

So even if you’re not using spells you can still do that

[peak inlet]

if you’re only doing that why can’t Martials also do that?

also, you’re acting as though going from a +2 bonus to a +1 bonus makes the martials completely useless

[white bison]

Because you can do it way better?

[white bison]

By switching weapon, you likely lose access to your fighting style and possibly talents such as PAM/CBE/GWM

That’s a huge difference

[peak inlet]

you can get a Piercing and a Slashing weapon with the same properties

what do you mean

get a Pike and Halberd

again, most of your stuff isn’t affected by the damage type

it’s by the properties

that’s also for a reason

the only exception is Ranged attacks, which does piss me off

and that’s why I design stuff to specifically deal with that

otherwise Slings are the only alternative option

[white bison]

Sure, but what would you do for smth like the crusher feat

Which is something most martials which handle those weapons desire

[peak inlet]

you specifically lose those abilities

there are 3 of them

[white bison]

If you specifically engineer stuff to make up for the fact that you get a penalty, it’s good

If it’s just a penalty i don’t like it

It’s not smth i’d like to face as a player or smth i’d like to use as a dm

Like, if a monster has slash resist, piercing damage makes it unable to use an ability or such

But i don’t like random penalties

Unless they’re equal for the whole party

[peak inlet]

those aren’t random penalties, it applies to all martials at different times the same way it applies to casters

[white bison]

In my games, i encourage switching weapons by giving a reward for it rather than imposing it on my players

[white bison]

I think i’ve discussed plenty how casters are mostly unaffected unless you specifically tailor a monster to their every ability

[peak inlet]

they’re still limited by it

[white bison]

And if martials deal different damage types, it’s likely only going to apply to one or two of them, and casters will still be better off

[white bison]

Not rly, they have several options of the same strength

[peak inlet]

I’m not saying every single enemy must have a resistance

I feel like you’re overblowing the real effect this has

[white bison]

No, i’m just saying it feels bad

[white bison]

.

I don’t like penalties for no reason

Limits are different from penalties, as they barely influece the power level of casters

[peak inlet]

it’s a penalty for targeting a specific creature between all the other creatures

Piercing resist on the archers for example

[white bison]

That’d be different, but oftentimes you’re not able to just target something else

[peak inlet]

that’s what designing encounters is for

as the DM, you know what you can put in and what you can’t put in

and as a player, you can choose what to target

the DM can force the Rogue to target a creature by putting the creature next to them, the Rogue can disengage to target another creature instead

[white bison]

Again, i’m against penalties put for no reason, if the encounter is well designed a penalty on a specific creature can be interesting

I’d still offer a reward rather than a penalty tho

[peak inlet]

I don’t agree that it’s a penalty

it’s a restriction

[white bison]

I don’t like using those when they unequally affect the party, unless there’s smth similar for every character in the party

In the end i think it boils down to different dming styles

[peak inlet]

sure, but also, they can just get or buy the other weapon at a higher rarity

it’s a small penalty for a general choice, they can change their situation at later points

[white bison]

That requires a ton of money or effort that other classes aren’t required to put in

And there’s still the attunement part

[peak inlet]

it’s a small penalty for a general choice, they can change their situation at later points

Wizards also have to use money and effort to get more spells in their spell book

[white bison]

They don’t need to

As wizards already get all the powerful stuff just by leveling up

[peak inlet]

honestly, I think this conversation isn’t going anywhere. I understand your way of running stuff but I prefer my way of running them

as long as the players are enjoying the game, idk if it matters

[tepid violet]

guys im scared

‘The words "dc27 con save or contract sand plague" should never be uttered’

my dm just sent this in the discord for my party

[tropic stratus]

sounds like you guys should avoiding going to the desert

[tepid violet]

thats not gonna help lol

the sand plague is the base plague, its everywhere

im paladin tho so im immune tho haha

[tepid violet]

also with that high a save the dm is probably gonna make us take 3d10 or something if we fail

[midnight magnet]

I'm making a custom devil fruit concept for this one piece campaign im in but im really struggling on making level 10 gimmicks to make it scale in strength well with the rest of the crew without being too weak or OP, any ideas on how I could do it?

[strange surge]

Hey guys, how do we feel about this 6th level Monk subclass feature?

When you take the Attack action, you can spend 3 Focus Points and replace one of your Attacks to swap your equipped weapon to a Monk weapon and perform the special move below which corresponds to the damage type of the weapon you swap to, using said new weapon.

Sky Breaker (Bludgeoning). You slam your weapon into the enemy with overwhelming force, creating a shockwave that disrupts the very terrain around you. If this attack hits the target, a patch of ground in a 10-foot Radius around you becomes Difficult Terrain for everyone except you, and the target’s AC is reduced by 2 until the start of your next turn.

Golden Ray (Piercing). You thrust your weapon at the enemy with all the sun’s radiance, striking truer than a bolt of divine light. When you make this attack, you gain a +1 to hit. If this attack hits the target, you score a critical hit on a roll of a 19 or a 20 on the die. This effect persists until the start of your next turn.

Crescent Moon (Slashing). You slash at the enemy in a swift crescent arc, sending a wave of force with the attack. When you make this attack, the range becomes a 5-foot Radius around you or 15-foot Cone originating from you (your choice), requiring enemies in range to make a Dexterity saving throw or be struck by your weapon. If this attack hits a target, you gain Temporary Hit Points equal to your Wisdom modifier, which persist until the start of your next turn.

If you swap weapons to Unarmed, you can perform the following move instead.

Fists of Death (Unarmed). You strike your enemy with deadly precision, debilitating them and empowering you. If this attack hits the target, they must make a Constitution saving throw or lose their Reaction, and you regain 1 Focus Point. If the target is Concentrating on an effect, they have Disadvantage on their saving throw to maintain Concentration.

[strange surge]

Actually this makes me want to homebrew a One Piece class or series of subclasses for each devil fruit and haki specialization, etc.

But anyway, it isn't really clear what you want. "Level 10 gimmicks to scale in strength?" What does that mean?

[midnight magnet]

Well, in our campaign, once we reach level 10 the difficulty curve will go way up since it scales with onepieces story, so level 10 is around sabaody to marineford, either that or the new world, if you don't know what that means, it gets hard asf, and haki become very relevant

Also seeing my party's (crews) characters, level 19 always adds something cool and unique

Its a milestone level

[grand pulsar]

Are we allowed to post D&D Beyond links in here? I made a species and I need feedback on it bc it's a little unbalanced

[strange surge]

Sure, I get that, but idk what your devil fruit look like or how they function to know what the heck a "level 10 gimmick that scales" is. Are they feats that scale with level? Classes that you need level 10 features for? It's still not clear what you actually need. Just a power boost for your existing devil fruits (again, don't know how these work in your game) when they hit level 10?

[strange surge]

tbh I don't know but I don't see why not

[grand pulsar]

Fair point

https://www.dndbeyond.com/species/2027552-fateshifter

I spent 3 days on it, it's a lot lol

[strange surge]

yeah immediately kinda busted

did you reference any other races/species in 5e/24 for balance or just go straight to making the whole thing

[grand pulsar]

I don't think it works as a species very well, I should have split it up into a feat, subclass, and species, and maybe even a magic item instead of just 1 thing

[grand pulsar]

Barely lol

I kinda just glanced at a few of the base species and went for it

And ended up making a species that might as well be a class on it's own

[strange surge]

Lol. Yeah it's definitely a lot. Did you want some kind of feedback on anything specifically or?

[grand pulsar]

The traits are my main concern, I need to know which ones should be feats or subclass traits instead of being crammed into 1 thing

[strange surge]

almost all of them are either Feat level or should be the species' one and only main ability aside from extra flavor stuff, imo

actually yeah since a lot of these features interlock it could be a subclass of some kind

themed around channeling the power of celestials/celestial dragons/fateshifters, using their powers/technology

[grand pulsar]

The Arcane Infusion should definitely be a feat with a high prerequisite

Elemental core, and Shattershell should be parts of a subclass

And I think Celestial Shatter and Celestial perfection work fine as species traits

[strange surge]

Actually, I think they're all Feat/Subclass.

Celestial Shatter would work fine as a species trait if it didn't reference another trait that's way too strong to be a species trait AND is inherently crazy strong (+5AC, +1-100 dmg??) (also, backlash/penalties are uncommon design in 2024e)

Celestial Perfection would be fine if it was one or two of those perks, but everything combined ... it would have to be the only species trait it has, or maybe one of two.

I mean, consider official species. They each get like one super strong thing and then some extra stuff, or 2-3 mediocre things. This species is just ... godly.

Celestial Perfection and Elemental Core are the closest you could get to balanced species traits and that's if you toned them down quite a bit and made them the only traits it has I think

also this bastard has three movement speeds

I highly recommend trying to make this as like, a redesign of an existing species like Goliath or Elf or something (depending on if you wanted to focus on their strength or perfection) by altering those traits to closer match your species

cuz this guy too strong ... needs total rework with all traits being nerfed and/or becoming a feat or subclass feature ...

[grand pulsar]

Conclusion; split everything up into their own subclasses and feats, and adjust damage values like AC

[strange surge]

honestly if you want, you could DM me and I'd be down to help mess around with this stuff cuz I low-key wanna make a Fighter subclass themed around "shatter shell/armor" now

but I'll brb gotta catch a bus

[grand pulsar]

There is some poor writing as well that needs fixing, like I only briefly mentioned that while you are flying you can't make attacks because you are on a separate plane

[grand pulsar]

Btw the damage is not +1-100, it is +1%-100%, so if I did an attack that does 20 damage, and the D100 rolls an 100% than the damage is increased to 40 instead of 120

I agree that +20 to all of your movement is INSANE, and that every enemy you kill being turned into the landmine equivalent of a fireball is also OP lol

Arcane infusion would work well as a 10th level subclass ability

Celestial Perfection is a bit much as well, half of it should just be a feat

The best part abt this is that I ran this in a game and still managed to get down in the first round of combat lol

[strange surge]

that's honestly impressive

[strange surge]

Could anyone offer me some feedback on this homebrew Monk subclass feature?

[grand pulsar]

I was playing a level 3 fighter, and I got last turn against 3 Shadow Mastiffs, they all succeeded on their rolls, my 13 AC did nothing so I died before my turn started lol

[main trellis]

Another Monk subclass? You must really like those lol.

So Sky Breaker might be a tad overpowered compared to the others, considering how much it reduces AC (though I may just be understating how good an improved critical from Golden Ray is), but even then all of these seem like valid options in play. Quite frankly it makes me want to make 3 characters, who use each of the weapon options for flavor.

For the Fists of Death option, I would recommend rewording since "Unarmed" isn't technically a weapon. Obviously not the only way to word it differently, but I might would use:

Instead of swapping your weapon, you may choose to stow it and perform the following move.

So I'm back with Special Classes, and I've got 2 now instead of just one. Haemomancer didn't change much but I did add a Commander class which probably helps get the point of these across better. Since not everyone cares about my previous message probably, I'll go over the point quick: Special Classes have a level cap below 20 (in this case, it is 3) and are designed to encourage multiclass dipping.

In this version I made a "Prerequisites" section in the introduction, tweaked some wording to match the D&D grammar a bit in Haemomancer, and added a second Special Class. I'd have added a 3rd already, but quite frankly I can't think of one right now lol.

Also, the point of this is as a proof-of-concept, seeing what people think of the idea before I go and try to publish a bunch of them or anything (unlikely), and because it is fun to make D&D homebrew. These are not intended to be balanced, but if anyone has balancing recommendations, feel free to let me know keeping in mind that technically this could be a player's first 3 levels, unless a DM rules otherwise while allowing them to be used.

https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/DHtBthe7-Sbg

[strange surge]

It's the same one :p appreciate the feedback!

Remind me to check out the Special Class later, out and about right now 🫡

[main trellis]

Ah, nice.

[strange surge]

Commander is kind of insane, +CHA mod to Hit (and damage) could be as wild as +4 at level 1. I know they're not meant to be balanced (and, honestly, why not balance them?) but damn ....

I enjoy the idea of mini-classes meant for dips though. I just wonder if the concept is better represented by feats (perhaps a new kind of feat or simply levels in these special classes can only be taken when feats could), or maybe one or a small handful of full classes that are simply designed to facilitate early-level dips for multi-classing builds

[heady stream]

I'm back with a new Artificer subclass

the divine spark Artificer. basically a cleric themed subclass
Here are the level 3 features so far:

Level 3: Divine Spark Spells

Artificer Level Spell
3rd Bless, Guiding Bolt
5th Prayer of Healing, Spiritual Weapon
9th Magic Circle, Crusader’s Mantel
13th Banishment, Guardian of Faith
17th Holy Weapon, Wall of Light

Level 3: Celestial Wrath
The divine spark you hold can be channelled through you tools and infusions to destructive effect.

As a bonus action, after you cast a spell or use an infusion as part of your action in any way, you can make a ranged spell attack that targets one creature within 90 feet of yourself or a melee spell attack against one creature within 5 feet of yourself.
On a hit, the attack deals 2d8 Radiant damage.

This damage increases to 2d10 at Artificer level 5, to 3d10 at Artificer level 9 and 4d12 at Artificer level 15.

Level 3: Imbue Divinity
Your Infusions bear a tiny fragment of divine power.

Once per short or long rest, the wielder of a weapon you infused can channel that spark as a bonus action. The Weapon deals an additional 1d4 Radiant damage on a hit.
This damage increases to 1d6 at level 9 and 1d10 at level 15.

If someone wears armor or a shield that is imbued with one of your infusions, they can use their reaction when they take radiant or necrotic damage and gain resistance to that damage type until the start of their next turn. This Reaction can be used a number of times equal to your intelligence modifier, and all charges are regained on a long rest.
Any other type of item imbued with one of your infusions grants the wielder the ability to add 1d6 to any skill check or saving throw once per short or long rest. Additionally, the wielder can add 1d6 to an instance of healing they recieve or provide to another creature once per short or long rest.

The bonus to skill checks, saving throws and healing increases to 1d8 at level 5, 1d10 at level 9 and 1d12 at level 15.

feedback appreciated

[gloomy flower]

may i introduce you to my religion (prestige classes)

[strange surge]

you may

[gloomy flower]

2d8 is more than you can get with another similar feature on a half caster at 3rd level

also 4d12 hot DAMN

[gloomy flower]

basically they were a thing in elder editions and they were classes that had 5-10 levels that you had to meet certain prerequisites to multiclass into

[heady stream]

I hate how WotC refuses to scale low level damage features to remain useful at higher tiers XD

[heady stream]

I guess my reference was the artillerist cannon

[gloomy flower]

the only officially published one for 5e is the Rune Scribe for UA

[strange surge]

I have indeed heard of Prestige Classes but knew little about them

[strange surge]

Rune Scribe was a prestige class?

[gloomy flower]

yeah, you didn't know?

[strange surge]

Anyway yeah that's what Gideon's trying to design in essence, but there isn't a lot of balancing being done yet lol.

[strange surge]

Nah, haven't kept up with UA ever really

not entirely sure what it is even

[gloomy flower]

i just peruse it for shits and giggles tbh

[strange surge]

valid

[gloomy flower]

material that WOTC made for people to playtest

[strange surge]

I see

yeah I haven't messed with that much, I just be homebrewing shit

I've liked the idea of prestige classes but figured there had to be a reason there aren't any in 5e

and haven't seen anyone talking about homebrewing any really

[gloomy flower]

a complaint i've heard is that they make it so you have to plan your build in advance to get one

which... are you not planning them in advance anyways??

[strange surge]

hm, that's true, since they have prereqs. but yeah, I always plan mine to some degree lol

did Prestige classes count against your 20-level cap?

[gloomy flower]

if you want some for 5e i suggest having a look at the ones on dandwiki (if you can stomach seeing The Horrors)

[gloomy flower]

yeah ofc

say i was a 5th level rogue and wanted to multiclass 3 into rune scribe

i'd be an 8th level character, 5 levels rogue and 3 levels rune scribe

[gloomy flower]

oh shit yeah dude this is just prestige classes

[main trellis]

I'll probably bump Inspiring Aura down to half Charisma mod, because you're right, I just didn't consider that because as a DM I discourage 4d6 drop lowest, and encourage Standard Array or Point Buy lol. I agree that perhaps these would be better as progressive feats, and I'll make some of those after I give Special Classes the last one since I have already committed to that.

[main trellis]

Unfortunately I am not as veteran to have played in an edition with prestige classes, but basically yeah.

[gloomy flower]

just make the requirements more mechanical (maybe for commander you have to have a high dex or str and a high cha and for haemomancer you need a high int and proficiency in medicine) and you're golden

[main trellis]

The prerequisites in the introduction are optional suggestions, if the vision pans out right it is supposed to be 13 in the primary ability like normal classes. Then again I can buff it to 15 or 17 as a unique trait for Special Classes.

[gloomy flower]

yeah no 15 or 17 for prestige classes is completely normal

[main trellis]

I might bump it to 15 then. Since I wasn't using Prestige Classes as a reference, these are basically just supposed to be multiclass options, but they turn out to be basically universal subclasses lol.

[gloomy flower]

interesting

i mean maybe not the intent but you made some pretty damn solid prestige classes

good shit dude

[main trellis]

Well thank you. I have already done the nerf I replied to runLevel2 with to Commander, but basically it is just for if people want vibes lol. (Again, taking any balancing suggestions people want to give me lol.)

(BTW, in case it wasn't obvious, Haemomantic Techniques were supposed to be a mix between Eldritch Invocations and Metamagic options, just ones that cost Hit Dice.)

[gloomy flower]

chat i'm gonna be playtesting these today

[strange surge]

Ay lmk if you wanna collab on some special class / prestige class (you could totally do a little research and then restructure your ideas a collection of modern prestige classes) ideas 😈

[strange surge]

I do think there could be many cool ideas for prestige classes, just Commander specifically seems like it could be a Feat, and unless the levels went a little higher like to 5 at least then they're all gonna be small enough that they could be progressive feats, if that makes sense.

If they were giving 5 levels, with more room to grow mechanically and interact with resources (universal ones as well as their own), they would definitely become quite impactful options as I imagine prestige classes should be

also for the 4d6 thing yeah me neither I just point buy my way to +4 in a stat usually (at the cost of other stats, so sometimes I'll settle for +3, but that's still a high hit bonus at low levels considering magic items with that +3 bonus are high rarity)

[short jackal]

Any ideas for a teleporter item?

[main trellis]

Ooh, that might actually be a neat idea. Let me get back to you on that after I do some more research. Might even try to extend Commander and Haemomancer for that lol.

[main trellis]

Commander probably could have its abilities (at least level 1 and 2) be bundled into one general feat, you are right about that. Going to level 5 to have more room to grow would be nice, frankly I've even been reluctant to try for one that has its own resources for that reason. IDK though, level 3 felt nice because that's when normal classes get their subclasses and I didn't know if I wanted these to get ABI or not lol.

[strange surge]

A fair point. I think it's worth considering, and maybe your opinion will change with further research (I should probably research them too if I plan to help or design my own), so let me know what you find! Totally get leaving them at 3 too though

[main trellis]

Yeah, I might see how they fit with older systems then make a decision. When I do though, I will post them here so there is that.

[gloomy flower]

is this too powerful for a 3rd level ability?

The user makes an attack, where instead of using their strength/dexterity bonus, they can use their speed divided by 10 (rounded down).
Costs 15 JUICE.
(max juice = 10 * character level, every class can have this as every class gets these abilities (named skills), juice recharges on short/long rest or with some skills and items)

[mild cove]

Honestly underpowered for that level. And how would you treat a player with a speed of 35, 45, etc

[gloomy flower]

+3 and +4 respectively

it says rounded down

also speed can change wildly due to the emotions system (considering how it's a campaign based off of OMORI and this is an adaptation of one of Kel's skills)

[heady stream]

anyone else wanna take a look? #homebrew message

[gloomy flower]

4d12 at 15th level for an artificer is nuts man

at that level arti only has 4th level spells

[heady stream]

I mean artillerist can do 4d8, which is only like 8 damage less but they can also do that as aoe or heal instead with their BA

[gloomy flower]

• if you have a racial +5 to speed and become manic (+15 speed but it requires 3 party members to use skills that make party members happy to set up) it acts the same as having 20 in a stat

[heady stream]

like, Artillerist cannons do so much more than my BA, so I figured upping the damage would be fine lol

[strange surge]

ping me when you do!!!

[gloomy flower]

also it's not tied to an expendable resource

you're doing damage comparable to a paladin's divine smite for free

also non-bps damage resistances at 3rd level are iffy

[native gale]

So, we got into this discussion with your last artificer subclass, so IDK where you stand on this point and if you really care, but to me this really does not feel like an artificer subclass. Mechanics of it aside, the point of an artificer subclass is to express "the thing" that your artificer specializes in creating. Some invention or specialization that makes them unique. This feels more like a reflavoring of the base class. This artificer hasn't invented anything, nor have they become an expert in creating a specific type of thing. You're just using your normal spells and infusions slightly differently than normal.

[heady stream]

havent they become an expert at creating "holy weapons/items"?

thats kinda what I was going for

[native gale]

I probably have a bias here, because I don't like "holy" things as a fantasy trope in general, but at the very least I do think you need some sort of mechanic or system that is wholly your own for an artificer subclass to work. We kinda skirted around that with your last subclass, but that's because the curse itself was the thing that you were creating. It acted as a centralizing element for both the mechanics and the theme. This feels more like a collection of abilities that are mostly independent of each other, and only vaguely themed as being holy

[heady stream]

hmm, I guess i can see where you come from with the "artificer invention" so to speak, though i think thats kinda limiting for me. Ultimately I think we want different things from our artificers here.

I am not sure what kind of connecting you want here? its not like battle ready is more connected to the steel defender for example

[main trellis]

So considering subclasses as a whole, isn't that what the whole point of it is? Subclasses take the framework of the main class, and add a unique flair. Like Sorcerers are understood to have innate magic, the subclasses tell where it comes from. Wizards are understood to study magic, the subclasses tell what school of magic they learn. Artificers are understood to make things, and subclasses tell the broad scope of things that are made.

I think Omegon's example here is good enough for that thought, he makes holy (or at least radiant) magic items.

[main trellis]

I think this is nice and thematic. I am interested to see how later features apply!

[heady stream]

thanks. I am still working on those. wanted to lay the foundation first.

and I do try to take colossus' criticism into account as much as possible

its just I think we have different visions of what an artificer subclass should do at points

[main trellis]

Understood. I agree with Colosuss that there needs to be a degree of connection between features, but this is not where that is needed lol, that comes with later features building upon older ones. Either way, I think it is epic, and Artificers don't get enough love from what I have seen lol.

[jagged gorge]

How do people get the dndbeyond homebrew item creator to properly apply bonus damage, like a longsword that deals an extra 2d10 Radiant damage on a hit?

[heady stream]

have you looked at how official items do it, like a flame tongue?

[native gale]

I said the same thing last time but it feels like you're designing this subclass the way one would for any other spellcasting subclass. If this was a wizard subclass for example, I would say it looks great. But artificers treat their subclasses differently from all of the other 12 classes. For all the other classes, their base features define their playstyle and the subclasses provide small modifications or flavor tweaks. For artificers, their base features mostly act as ribbons or cushions, and the subclass wholly defines the playstyle. Or in other words, if you played a character without a subclass for any of the 12 base classes, they'd be a little more boring but still functional, but an artificer would basically not function at all without one. So your subclass needs to define what the artificer's function is

[main trellis]

I reccomend what Omegon said too, make a copy of a flame tongue and look at that. Been too long since I've done it lol.

[heady stream]

if the subclass is mechanically strong enough, does it matter if it does have a "spellcaster" playstyle? because I am kinda aiming for that.

[jagged gorge]

I have yes, but when I create the item the bonus damage doesn't show up on the character sheet, it still only rolls regular longsword damage

[heady stream]

and like, ultimately, artillerist and alchemist both do have similar playstyle most turns, one just does a lot more damage

[main trellis]

So are you saying that being able to make a free ranged spell attack as a bonus action and being able to augment items you infuse don't define your playstyle?

[main trellis]

As far as I know, it will never roll it with the longsword damage, but I could just have given up before finding that feature. I'd check and make sure there is an item that functions like that on D&D Beyond to see if it is possible.

[native gale]

At the end of the day, I'm talking about feel, not balance, so if you want to go in a different direction than how WOTC makes their artificer subclasses, that is your right to do so.

[strange surge]

hey guys, could I get some opinions on which of these subclasses sounds the most fun or cool so I can decide what to make next:

• The Circle of the Plaguelands Druid
• The Arcanist Fighter
• The Spirit Commander Fighter
• The Oath of the Earth Paladin
• The Spiritcaller Ranger
• The Spellknife Rogue
• The Planar Sorcery Sorcerer
• The Ten Skies Sorcery Sorcerer

[heady stream]

I'm not convinced I am that far off official design but the sample size is also pretty small so idk

spirit commander fighter has my vote

[main trellis]

As per my roles here, I am obviously biased towards either sorcerer, but Arcanist Fighter sounds epic.

[jagged gorge]

Circle of the Plaguelands give big Destiny vibes so I vote that.

[strange surge]

a three-way tie 🙀

[jagged gorge]

I do have to question what the difference a Spellknife would have compared to a Soulknife or Arcane Trickster tho

[strange surge]

and a fellow Destiny enjoyer! I did steal the name Plaguelands when I wanted something more than just "Plague" and the name popped in my head, but I've actually never experienced the Plaguelands so don't get your hopes up for much Destiny theming

[jagged gorge]

RIP Siva 💔

[strange surge]

Soulknife (psychic knife powers) + Arcane Trickster (some spellcasting) = Spellknife (spellcasting with fancy imbue-blade-with-spells powers, and a more focused flavor than just "rogue that casts magic" from Arcane Trickster)

[strange surge]

I'm curious, what do you imagine when you read Spirit Commander?

[strange surge]

And you, which Sorcerer do you think you'd prefer? ||I might be biased towards the Ten Skies lol||

[heady stream]

some kind of aoe effect that moves around with the fighter?

like an army of ethereal spirits

[main trellis]

Honestly, depending on what you mean by Ten Skies that could be cool, but my vote goes to Planar Sorcery.

[native gale]

If we look at the 4 subclasses that exist, plus the cartographer UA, the one thing that ties all of them together is the fact that they create a physical “thing” separate from their infusions or other class features. Your last subclass went with a metaphysical option instead of a physical one, since it creates curses, but for this subclass it feels like like it’s “creating” a thing and more like it’s just added functionality to your already existing class features

[strange surge]

I did imagine an army of ethereal spirits, but a different system for using them. I was picturing a commander of three soldier spirits, each with a different role (like Knight, Assassin, and Marksman for example, but I think I can come up with cooler soldier roles). Does that sound interesting?

[heady stream]

yeah I get that. hmm i can try to come up with a thing to create that fits

[strange surge]

Ten Skies is entirely made-up but would probably function similarly to Planar in that it would channel magic from a plane that has, well, ten skies, and depending on which sky you're attuned to/channeling when you cast a spell of a certain school or damage type or with a certain metamagic, it could have different effects. Dunno though, just spitballing, came up with the idea 10m ago haha

think I'll start with Planar for simplicity (and so I don't have to name ten different skies)

[jagged gorge]

Maybe effigies of the people/objects/places you want to curse?

[heady stream]

oh no, i meant for the divine artificer

[strange surge]

different kinds of Holy Symbols with different effects?

[jagged gorge]

Oh whoops

[main trellis]

Honestly if I was going to make something between those, I would do Planar for exactly the the same reason lol.

[heady stream]

I am happy enough with the curse one

[heady stream]

I am thinking so kind of divine beacon

artificer choses the form

[strange surge]

I'll get around to Ten Skies for sure, the flavor will be unparalleled, but I'll start small. Baby steps lol.

[main trellis]

Precisely. But even bigger thing: imagine how many options there would be for Ten Skies on each feature lol.

[strange surge]

True lmao. I think I'd implement it in a way that isn't "you have ten different effects depending on which sky youre attuned to" simply to avoid that.

Hey, while everyone's here, anyone interested on giving feedback on the subclasses I've already designed? There's the Bard College of Spellbinding, College of Color, Barbarian Path of the Demon, and Monk Warrior of the Steel Soul :)

and also the Stone Monkey species inspired by Sun Wukong and Journey to the West

[main trellis]

Where might we find those?

[strange surge]

I'll drop links here

Subclasses

• Bard College of Spellbinding:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/18cc8Dbtp1grEeOD-D79mu0z_9GBwE7YoyPZAFsitSo8/edit?usp=drivesdk
• Bard College of Color:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQg3C74OcFOKzVfEAnkvCAeTs-cCwflta1qh0r7Qql4/edit?usp=drivesdk
• Barbarian Path of the Demon:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PBXme-Ca8cNA1WC-bEQdkPvTEUnDXLT8cLbXeOiSe7I/edit?usp=drivesdk
• Monk Warrior of the Steel Soul:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Mo6DG5Rz4K1WLA2mXpsuKsIIpyvf_903Ykzoe3zJD8/edit?usp=drivesdk

Species

• Stone Monkey:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ptdzSrTGsz9fDDfMXwgKfIUUAl_TbpdQskQkCdRhYoQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

maybe I should get around to making a compendium and sticking it in my bio ...

[main trellis]

So here's my feedback.

• For College of Spellbinding, is Perfected Spellbinding supposed to mean that instead of expending and rolling a Bardic Inspiration Die, you instead roll a d6? If so, you may want to specify that the Bardic Inspiration is not consumed in that case.
• For College of Colors, that's a lot of Brocades, but do I understand that you use one per turn, and it applies to all attacks or just the first hit?
• For Path of the Demon, this is pure vibes. Soul Stealer might be a bit busted, but frankly what abilities it grants players is up to what the DM throws at the party and lets die within 30 ft. of the Barbarian.
• For Warrior of the Steel Soul, this is a nice and powerful subclass. Don't know if you sent the other features but I saw some of these already. Still stand by my previous statement: makes me want to build characters based on the stances.
• For Stone Monkey, another thing that makes me want to make a character.

[main trellis]

Honestly I have a load of old Homebrew I need to modernize and do the same for lol.

[gloomy axle]

Designing a weapon my Eldritch Knight is going to make

https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/10664914-divine-formbreaker

Open to feedback

[scenic urchin]

seems fine, simple enough

[white bison]

Really like it

[main trellis]

So the weapon itself is neat. I would recommend rewording:

Regardless of the form it remains a heavy strength based weapon
To something like:
Regardless of the form it has the Heavy property, and uses Strength for attack and damage rolls.

Just to keep it more in line with proper rules text. (If it is not supposed to have the Heavy property, you can drop that part.)

[gloomy axle]

Updated

https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/10760286-divine-formbreaker

[strange surge]

Yes, I copied the wording from College of Swords, so while I agree it's kinda confusing, it's also official 🤷

The Brocade only fires on one attack until the later upgrade that lets you optionally imbue it, hence under the Brocade it will say "add X to the damage of your attack" (singular), but I changed the wording for clarity, so thank you:

Whenever you make an Attack on your turn, you can expend one use of your Bardic Inspiration to use one of your learned Brocades with that attack.

Soul Stealer definitely has crazy potential but yeah its power is somewhat DM-dependent, so...unfortunate there but a cool concept I couldn't pass up on

Glad you like the subclass :) indeed I asked for feedback on two of its features here. The idea with the stances and weapons is you can swap freely between them and wield an arsenal of Monk weapons especially since what counts as a Monk weapon for you becomes less restricted with the subclass.

I'm glad you like the Stone Monkey too haha

[strange surge]

I'll probably start compiling everything into different tabs in a Google Doc, can't be bothered to learn HB or anything like that and Google Doc easily syncs between all my devices and accounts

[low dock]

Was thinking about a homebrew system for my campaign where my Druid can unlock special Druid spells through runes found across the world, does this sound too knockoff of a wizard? These runes would be handheld but only 1-3 (depending on level) could be activated at a time

[restive tusk]

Seems fine depending on what the spells do.

[void jewel]

Overlap homebrew is fine and there is nothing wrong with it unless you're stepping on the toes of another active player in your party who also has an issue sharing spells.

[golden temple]

bwaaaa i wanna work on duelist as a class now-

[void jewel]

To clarify, there is nothing stopping you from making an "X but like Y" other than some random guy online saying you can't. Just do it.

[midnight elk]

I just like Google docs because Google docs

[rancid temple]

I am seeking for some feedback on some edit's I've done for the Ranger subclass Drakewarden. Please don't be afraid to tag/ping me. Thank you
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0r0tNOXBhQA3fbRorY99xZlqny1Vyw574Az-yPCp8w/edit?usp=sharing

[true forge]

this screams AI

[golden temple]

in the revision i was given the dragon just gets a flying speed equal to ten*proficiency bonus,,

[true forge]

40 foot fly speed is alot better then scaling lol

you basically just get the same unless playing until late levels lol

[golden temple]

hm,,? 😭 wwdym,,

[main trellis]

Unfortunately I have to agree with Bobble. As someone who has interacted with ChatGPT for a variety of purposes recently (all of which I probably shouldn't have lol), this feels so much like AI. If this is a perception you would like to avoid, probably present the class features all together in one place and shorten the amount of explanation. The spell list thing does not need a "Dragon Lore Theme" column, for example.

[golden temple]

i did not even notice that 😭

[true forge]

most games play until 12-16ish, as thats when players dont have access to destroy the fabric of reality (wizards)

so i was wrong, with your thing you were given, most times the drake would have 50 foot fly speed and not 40

[true forge]

i mean, if the excessive tables, and the parts didnt give it away

also also also

the other fact of the AI getting the size of the drake wrong in the 7th level thing

the drake starts off as small, then grows to medium, then to large, not start at medium, then grow to large, then huge

[main trellis]

Well that's kind of what I was referring to when I reccomended slimming the explantation. For all I know, this guy could just be really into D&D dragon lore and being wordy lol.

[rancid temple]

thats not wrong. It's what I chose for it be at that level

[main trellis]

And that's something I didn't know because I'm not familiar with the class lol.

[rancid temple]

A. I did use AI to format it for google doc (hence the columns etc)
B. Whether or not this was made by AI or not the idea was mine since 2023 (the orignal doc in google drive below)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QtygjRdWVMvtfbauA4wTRIo5CBKkUO0GxXGxZWJaW-0/edit?usp=sharing

[true forge]

you do know that AI is aganist server ToS right?

[main trellis]

Understood. If being told you are using AI bothers you, then all I can recommend is either to not format using AI, or mention that when you send the message originally.

[rancid temple]

The only reason I have it in google doc is I keep getting this on D&D Beyond despite making it from scratch multiple times 😭

• This homebrew Subclass has data mapped to it that is licensed content or private homebrew. This typically occurs when licensed or private homebrew spells are linked to the Subclass.
• R_OF_Drakewarden (FToD) is currently too similar to Drakewarden to share with the community.

[true forge]

honesty. drakewarden is fine

[main trellis]

Nevermind, if it is against ToS, then don't use it here. Don't want to get kicked because you forgot to read the rules.

[true forge]

it's not the strongest ranger, but its not the weakest

also has some of the best growth with the subclass progression in the game

[flint marsh]

even if Chatgpt tells you people don't like it, remember it's stealing information from the internet, and people that don't like a thing post way more than people that do, and WAY more than people who think it's fine

[main trellis]

For the first error, that happens if for example, you made the spells in the spell list, and are trying to link them (though there may be other ways, that's just how it was when I was using it). You have to publish those first. For the second error, that's a hazard of doing what you are doing. You would have to give it a new name and flavor text. Sharing some features with the original is probably also a source of pain.

[main trellis]

This is true, the silent majority is called silent for a reason.

[true forge]

yep, honesty, look at google AI search thing, it pulls from anything from the internet to give you what your asking for, including sites like reddit, which we all know what happens there

@rancid temple

[flint marsh]

nobody posts "this is fine, not too good, not too bad"

and the people who think a thing is terrible will just post again and again and again

[true forge]

just like me and hexblade fr fr lol

[flint marsh]

I think hexblade is terrible and I post about it a lot

not terrible because it's not powerful enough of course

[true forge]

i just hate it for multiple reasons

[flint marsh]

you're a very clever individual

[rancid temple]

I'm not sure if I understand this. Clarification would be appreciated ❤️

[true forge]

TLDR, AI pulls info from alot of sources, anywhere were it can get it

[faint sonnet]

I feel like one of the concerns with the rework is that it doesn't seem like it includes an understanding of why the subclass was designed how it originally was.

[true forge]

which in turn gets alot of stuff
a) wrong
b) like peoples opinions about the subject

[main trellis]

And reddit is known as a place of discord and malcontent.

[true forge]

also again

the flavour of finding/hatching a small dragon and watching it grow over the course of an adventure is the point of drakewarden's design

[faint sonnet]

I think something that can be missed relatively frequently is that features requiring an action, such as Drakewarden's breath attack, is intentional because it is a commitment of your action. If it slots into your attack loop, it's not really a "choice" at all.

[rancid temple]

I've got the sources on beyond. The changes done tothe Drakewarden were my own.

Unearthed Arcana
In Library
D&D Beyond Basic Rules
In Library
Player’s Handbook
In Library
Sage Advice & Errata
In Library
Basic Rules (2014)
In Library
Sage Advice Compendium (2014)
In Library
Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything
In Library
Fizban's Treasury of Dragons
In Library
Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
In Library
The Vecna Dossier
Adventures
In Library
Lost Mine of Phandelver
In Library
The Radiant Citadel
In Library
Spelljammer Academy
Partnered Content Partnered Content
In Library
Frozen Sick
In Library
Cthulhu by Torchlight

[faint sonnet]

It seems counterintuitive from a fun perspective, but proper limitations being set is a very pivotal aspect of game design.

[rancid temple]

I assumed by getting the sourcebooks to the spell block would stop that weird DNDBeyond error

[rancid temple]

could you clarify on this?

[main trellis]

No, the issue is that it is linked to content it is not allowed to, and is too similar to official. That's why you were getting the errors.

[faint sonnet]

The document seems to posit that the subclass was designed imperfectly due to lacking a subclass spell list, having flight (with rider) come online too late, and having the breath weapon be your entire action, but doesn't really question whether those things are actually intentional and part of good design via providing meaningful choices to the user and/or reflecting that the subclass attempts to stay within its budget.

[true forge]

i point to this

[faint sonnet]

The primary power investment of Drakewarden is the drake, so it makes sense that the subclass doesn't weaken the drake by providing you subclass spells. The entire subclass is about the drake, after all.

I will say that I think this framing can be difficult to understand if you don't have context from older editions of D&D or other TTRPGs.

Essentially, it's good to make things bad in some situations.

[rancid temple]

IMO I think it's not entirley just about the Drake.
As some of the features say it's a mutual benefit.
It gifts you magical features etc such as being to cast Thaumaturgy, speak draconic, share resistances.
For example Swarmkeeper is a good example of mutual beneficial features in which in addition to those it also gets a spell list block

[true forge]

did you read why swarm keeper has spells right?

A Swarmkeeper’s swarm and spells are reflections of the character’s bond with nature spirits. Take the opportunity to describe the swarm and the ranger’s magic in play. For example, when your ranger casts gaseous form, they might appear to melt into the swarm, instead of a cloud of mist, or the arcane eye spell could create an extension of your swarm that spies for you. Such descriptions don’t change the effects of spells, but they are an exciting opportunity to explore your character’s narrative through their class abilities. For more guidance on customizing spells, see the “Personalizing Spells” section in chapter 3 of Tasha's Cauldron of Everything.

Also, remember that the swarm’s appearance is yours to customize, and don’t feel confined to a single appearance. Perhaps the spirits’ look changes with the ranger’s mood or with the seasons. You decide!

[faint sonnet]

Even the mutual benefits are about the drake, though.

The only "non-drake" benefits are Thaumaturgy and speaking Draconic, really.

[true forge]

yeah

the breath could be, but not really

[faint sonnet]

Ranger subclasses based around pets are almost universally based around those pets, whereas other pet subclasses for other classes are often partially about the pet and partially about the PC, e.g. Wildfire Druid.

[true forge]

(although with this summon sorc im doing, it mainly about the summons lol)

[flint marsh]

there's always something uniquely dissatisfying about pet classes because if the pet isn't like at least 50% the potency of a player character people will think they're too weak

[true forge]

Dire Circumstances

14th level Wolf King Bloodline feature

Your feral nature spawns more furious allies. The wolves summoned from the Protect the Pack now become Dire Wolves.

When you cast a Sorcerer spell of 1st level or higher, your summoned wolves gain some of your knowledge, until the start of their next turn, your summoned wolves can act independently from you on their turns but they are still friendly towards you and allies and follow any verbal commands you give them.

14th level done, did change 6th level on the homebrewery page lol

[faint sonnet]

I've slowly become more and more "Ranger is a pet class"-pilled for my rework, because I think a pet ties up the sort of loose ends of my idea.

[wind berry]

Magic Arrow

At 7th level, you gain the ability to infuse arrows with magic. Whenever you fire a nonmagical arrow from a shortbow or longbow, you can make it magical for the purpose of overcoming resistance and immunity to nonmagical attacks and damage. The magic fades from the arrow immediately after it hits or misses its target.

In addition, you learn the Hunter's Mark spell. You can cast this once per long rest using your wisdom modifier, or by expending a use of your primal arrow. You regain expended uses of it when you finish a long rest.

I forgot the best way to word this last part.

hi tamms, just updating my primal archer after a long time away from DND. I decided to cut out its spellcasting.

It's a revision of arcane archer but I gave it too much with an outright spellcasting table, but I decied to give it an signature spell in the 7th level feature, which can be used once free and expends use of their primary class feature(as the game is designed to do often)

Sun Arrow. A target struck by this arrow is imbued with radiant energy from the evocation magic used. The target must succeed a Dexterity saving throw, or until the start of your next turn, attacks from creatures other than yourself against the target have advantage.

Starting at 18th level, a creature struck by this arrow takes an additional 2d6 radiant damage.

Also revised Sun Arrow to not give the archer advantage but everyone else, so that it plays the ways its supposed to.

https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/87wYusW_MWNn

Prooably going to need to buff disrupting arrow in some way to make it relevant.

Barrage Arrow. You use conjuration magic to duplicate and attack multiple targets in a barrage. When you take this shot, you may target additional creatures up to your proficiency bonus. Make ranged attack rolls against each target without including your proficiency bonus. On a hit, the target takes the original arrow's damage. without your ability modifier added to the damage.

Also, I'm not sure how intuitive this is for the damage portion. I put "original arrow's damage", but what its supposed to mean that if the arrow deals 2d6 damage, or 2d6+magical ability that gives it another 2d6, you roll the 2d6 or the 4d6 from your arrows base damage but you don't add any modifier from your dex to the damage of each instance.

[stuck raptor]

you

[wind berry]

I think I'll just write it like this; "On a hit, the target takes damage from your weapons damage die" or soomething like that.

[marble shore]

would this be the right channel to ask about a gimmick i made that is mostly flavoring but also abit of homebrew?

[olive harness]

I would say a lot of flavor is fairly homebrew, so yeperoo

[marble shore]

for this sorcerer with a kinda warlock dip im doing a gimmick that includes pact of chain and the wild magic. The pseudo dragon from pact of chain would be sentient talking with the character, his allis, and sometimes helping out his enemies (i would explain in abit). the dm could make the dragon say whatever they want as long it kinda fits the personality. The way the dragon would help could be whenever a good effect comes from wild magic, the dragon helps out the character/his allies. whenever a bad wild magic effect happens, it could be the dragon help out the nemies

idk if this makes sense, i can send a video of the character im copying this from

[still plaza]

Hello ther, so I am currently trying to make a homebrew race for a friend of mine who I play with.
We wanted to give this race a trait options where one of them would increase the Spell slots that the character would have but I can't find anything about it on DnD beyond.
Am I missing something? I know I could just give it an "other action" to restore his Magic points and give it charges, but he is kind of an airhead, so I assume he just forgets about it.
Got any tips

[spring tusk]

I just made this based on the Magic the Gathering card :)
CR 8 Crystal Barricade

[spring tusk]

also this CR 6 Protean Hulk

[spring tusk]

..I may have taken some creative liberties, but heres a CR 18 Meteor Golem

[sturdy harness]

https://youtube.com/shorts/B04W00v7K9o?si=gXpWhceR_J7XJ5rt

[true forge]

King of Beasts

18th level Wolf King Bloodline feature

The full extent of your bloodline is now unlocked. As a bonus action, you can become the Beast King for 10 minutes. When transformed, your teeth and fingernails grows larger, your body sprouts wiry hairs, and your mind becomes one of pure murderous intent. While in this form, you and your summoned wolves gain the following benefits:

• You and your wolves gain resistance to non-slivered Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing damage.
• As an action, you can make an unarmed strike towards a target within range. This unarmed strike deals 4d6 piercing damage. When you damage a creature with this unarmed strike, you can spend a bonus action to command the wolves to attack with you, letting them move up to their movement speed and make an attack roll against the same creature you attacked if within range
• You and your summoned wolves gain Temporary Hit Points equal to your sorcerer level + your Charisma modifier.

You can use this feature once per long rest, you can spend 4 Sorcery Points to recharge a use of this feature (no action required)

and i think that Wolf King sorc done

[heady stream]

Level 3: Divine Implement

You made a breakthrough with your research into the divine spark, creating a tool designed to channel its power. Chose a tool you are are proficient in. This tool is now modified to show signs of its divine purpose (you chose how these changes appear) and is a spellcasting focus for your Artificer spells. If you hold this tool, you can activate it as a bonus action a number of times equal to your intelligence modifier. You regain one expended use on a short rest and all expended uses on a long rest. When you activate it, it grants you one of the following effects:

• You can add 2d8 Radiant damage the next time you deal damage to a creature.
• The next time you restore hit points, you can add 2d8 to the total.
• You can add 1d8 to the next ability check or saving throw you make.

You have to use the effect granted to you within 1 minute or the benefit disappears.

@native gale is this more like something you are looking for?

[primal osprey]

Yo, got a legendary item I'd love some feedback for. Although it needs another magic item for context so I'll post it with it

Rune-lain Silvered Weapon (Equipment)

Weapon (Any Simple or Martial), Rare

This magic weapon is imbued with both magic silver and powerful holy runes. When you hit an attack against a fiend, undead, or monstrosity, the weapon deals an extra 2d6 of damage of the weapon’s type, this damage bypasses resistance to bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage. Additionally, if the fiend, undead or monstrosity has the Regeneration ability, it does not function until the end of its next turn.

Trident of the Dawnhunter (Equipment)

Weapon (Trident), Legendary (Requires Attunement)

Once a warlock bound to a pact with an archdevil, the legendary Dawnhunter became a slayer of the unholy after the archdevil was slain and he was free from his pact. The trident was a gift from the archdevil, built to slay undead and monstrosities; but the Dawnhunter spent decades travelling from holy place to holy place, and imbued the trident with runes to make it a weapon capable of slaying fiends too. The Dawnhunter was defeated in battle with a lich king, yet his legacy and followers live on, and the trident calls for a new master, one to continue the eternal fight against the unholy.

Rune-lain Silver. The trident has all the properties of a Rune-lain Silvered Weapon, except the extra damage is 3d6 instead of 2d6.

While Attuned to the Trident, you gain the following benefits:

Magic Weapon. You have a +3 bonus to Attack Rolls and Damage Rolls with this weapon.

Defence against the Unholy. You always have the benefits of the Protection from Evil and Good spell.

Loyal Weapon. When you make a ranged attack with the trident, it returns to your hand after it hits or misses.

Spells of the Dawnhunter. The trident has 5 charges. You can expend a charge to cast Dispel Evil and Good, Steel Wind Strike and Banishment (at 5th level), spell save DC 15 and +7 to spell attacks. You regain 1d4+1 expended charges every dawn.

I just ask if it's a good weapon, fits its rarity, fits its lore and vibe that it's intended for

And balance, of course (like, would you use it in your games)

[sick apex]

I quite like it, decent power for a legendary. Maybe a little low spell modifier

Also you should alter the wording to be spell, spell or spell

And implies that you cast all 3 at once

[primal osprey]

Good ideas. Ty

Will do

[sacred current]

• *non-silvered, just a spelling mistake
• does range here refer to reach, or is there a set distance you want to mention?
• that's balanced for the capstone

[true forge]

Yeah it refers to reach

Which in those cases is 5 feet (as melee attacks)

[sacred current]

That makes it a little wonky with the wolves and movement

[sacred current]

When you damage a creature with this unarmed strike, you can spend a bonus action to command the wolves to attack with you, letting them move up to their movement speed and make an attack roll against the same creature you attacked if within range

The part in bold specifically

[native gale]

It could probably use some rewording, but I think the feel does feel more in line with what one would expect from at artificer subclass. You can remove the part that says it’s a spellcasting focus though, because that’s already a base rule for artificers. Any tool that you are proficient in is a spellcasting focus for you

[primal osprey]

I think I’ll change the DC to 18 and the spell attack to +10

[worthy karma]

I've been having a look, and if I wanted to create a new playable species, mechanically do I determine speed/size and add features and hope not to break the game? (2024)

[primal osprey]

Pretty much

Although all playable species are either small or medium

Anything more or less and it enters wild homebrew territory

[worthy karma]

I'm guessing there's not many tables a gel cube cleric would be welcome on. lol

[primal osprey]

Yeah non-humanoid playable species can be controversial

From what I’ve seen if it’s not a humanoid, it’ll be a fey

But I’ve seen DMs reject playable fey species because obviously stuff like hold person and similar spells don’t effect then

[stuck raptor]

we have ooze, monstrosity, contruct alongside fey

plasmoid, thrikreen, and autognome

funnily enough, all spelljammer species

[primal osprey]

There have been playable ooze species?!

I didn’t know that

I thought they were all considered humanoids.

Idk why I just thought they’d stretch the definitions to fit them all in

[teal niche]

The new statblock for a Stone Golem has a little medallion in the center on its art depiction and I was thinking of making it function as a magic item to cast the Golem's Force Bolt if the players loot it.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Plucked from the heart of a stone golem this delicately shaped token that features iconography praising Moradin, the dwarven God of craft and invention.
In the center is a gleaming emerald.

Once per day, the medallion can be activated to launch a Force Bolt, using your CON + Proficiency as the spellcasting modifier.

Force Bolt  :  Ranged (120ft)
Launch a bolt of force against a single target dealing: 4d10 force damage

I was considering the idea that the players can choose to recharge it themselves if they spend the spell slots and perhaps even upcast it.

[spring tusk]

Fun fact!! Aarakokra and Owlin are considered humanoid

[tulip steeple]

This looks like it’d make a good uncommon magic item.

[spring tusk]

Very neat, only thoughts I have is making a set modifier or making it a more common spellcasting ability, but that's neither here nor there

Looks fun

Though I guess it's not a spell

[teal niche]

Yeah I went with con because that's what the golden used but I'm tempted to just use the users base spell mod

[primal osprey]

Laughs in 2024 rules monster manual

(Aaracokra are elementals in that)

[spring tusk]

Aarakokra the statblock is considered an elemental

In 2014 as well