dnd-discussion

[stuck shuttle]

That's why I said a vampire and not two vampires

[empty thicket]

Its a guy who is a child from a vampire, so half half and kill vampires to protect humanity.

[brave spruce]

alright im joining one soon but its once a month😭

[hardy solstice]

Not all vampires are evil?

[sturdy tusk]

Ah Ok

[hardy solstice]

Some are good people

[sturdy tusk]

Not all

[stuck shuttle]

Blade's origin is also a possibility in FR, that being if a mother was bitten while she was pregnant

[hardy solstice]

Are we talking irl?

[dim flicker]

vampires irl??

[hardy solstice]

Because irl I know a vampire descendant and she is really nice

[sturdy tusk]

Few are Good
Perhaps They are a Child of a Vampire and Human

Like Alucard from Castlevania

[lusty tendon]

so i have a concept, if you push a condensed mass of pure wildmagic into a pure condensed mass of Souls (dragon and living beings) would it make a nuke, (this is a plot point for my dnd campaign and no they will not abuse this, hopefully)

[hardy solstice]

Okay you havent been in the occult.

[empty thicket]

Never said that, some can be good

[sturdy tusk]

I mean not all are Evil

[hardy solstice]

THANK YOU

[empty thicket]

If after 100 years you are still poor and dont know how to get blood without involving killing. Walk up to the sun.

[hardy solstice]

Okay ignoring the elephant in the room that vampires are real

[dim flicker]

i guess so, best i've experienced is being friends with ppl who say they're witches

[sturdy tusk]

Honestly Idc
I like Vamps, They're cool

[hardy solstice]

And I am a werewolf

[sturdy tusk]

I believe there is a Vampire Species Though

Unearthed Arcana

[lusty tendon]

dampir is a child of a vampire not a vampire oddly

[stuck shuttle]

It'd be unofficial since it's UA

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah

Plane Shift Species

[narrow moss]

reminds me of Vampire Hunter D.

[sturdy tusk]

Ability Score Increase. Your Charisma score increases by 2, and your Intelligence score increases by 1.
Age. Vampires don’t mature and age in the same way that other races do.
Alignment. Vampires might not have an innate tendency toward evil, but many of them end up there. Evil or not, their strict hierarchies incline them toward a lawful alignment.
Size. Vampires are about the same size and build as humans. Your size is Medium.
Speed. Your base walking speed is 30 feet.
Darkvision. Thanks to your heritage, you have superior vision in dark and dim conditions. You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light, and in darkness as if it were dim light. You can’t discern color in darkness, only shades of gray.
Vampiric Resistance. You have resistance to necrotic damage.
Bloodthirst. You can drain blood and life energy from a willing creature, or one that is grappled by you, incapacitated, or restrained. Make a melee attack against the target. If you hit, you deal 1 piercing damage and 1d6 necrotic damage. The target’s hit point maximum is reduced by an amount equal to the necrotic damage taken, and you regain hit points equal to that amount. The reduction lasts until the target finishes a long rest. The target dies if this effect reduces its hit point maximum to 0.
Feast of Blood. When you drain blood with your Bloodthirst ability, you experience a surge of vitality. Your speed increases by 10 feet, and you gain advantage on Strength and Dexterity checks and saving throws for 1 minute.
Languages. You can speak, read, and write Common (if it exists in your campaign) and Vampire

Vampire Species from Plane Shift-Ixalan

[hardy solstice]

I don't play that stuff

[sturdy tusk]

Dhampirs are Better I wont lie-

[fading robin]

I mean they also have various origins
-# 1 You are the reincarnation of an ancestor who was a vampiric tyrant.
-# 2 Your pact with a predatory deity, fiend, fey, or spirit causes you to share their hunger.
-# 3 You survived being attacked by a vampire but were forever changed.
-# 4 A parasite lives inside you. You indulge its hunger.
-# 5 Tragedy interrupted your transformation into an immortal.
-# 6 You are a diminished form of an otherworldly being. Slaking your hunger hastens your renewal.
-# 7 One of your parents was a vampire.
-# 8 A radical experiment changed your body, making you reliant on others for vital fluids.

[sturdy tusk]

Valid
Dhampirs are Much better Lore wise

[hardy solstice]

Dhampir, now reborn are my two go tos

[sturdy tusk]

Hexblood is a Hag Species

[stuck shuttle]

Regardless of the various IRL vampire mythologies, vampirism in D&D makes you inherently evil. You probably wouldn't want to become one (also since it makes your an NPC thrall anyways)

[sturdy tusk]

Its another one

[hardy solstice]

Meh, not into hags

[sturdy tusk]

Valid

[hardy solstice]

Met enough teachers at school

[sturdy tusk]

What Lore are you going btw?

[stuck shuttle]

Dhampirs are a great compromise, especially since they're so accomodating to the various vampire or vampire like mythos irl

[sturdy tusk]

Whats the General Lore

[narrow moss]

depends on the edition i think?

[stuck shuttle]

It depends mainly on the setting

[narrow moss]

truuuue

[sturdy tusk]

You can make one I believe

Or not

[hardy solstice]

Race lines up more with number 3 of reborn

[sturdy tusk]

Lillith
For your CHaracter

[stuck shuttle]

At least for vampires, the Forgotten Realms entry is here:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Vampire

[hardy solstice]

Except the dementia is slow burn

Got a plague

Mysteriously survived

After death

At 14

She is 16 now

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm

[sturdy tusk]

Technically

[arctic bobcat]

Whats a fun fantasy meat for an orc merchant to sell

[sturdy tusk]

Dhampirs and Reborn can Live VERY Long lives

[stuck shuttle]

That'd probably be a hard ask at many tables, playing with an underage adventurer

[sturdy tusk]

Longer than Elves even, if they're Careful along with Warforged

[sturdy tusk]

Im currently Playing as a 15 Year old warforged

[twilit sail]

thats unfortunate i hope its temporary

[sturdy tusk]

Its not a Prob

[stuck shuttle]

Both of those are a bit different

Playing with a minor IRL isn't the same as taking a minor into deathtraps consistently

And also Warforged reach maturity at like 2-3

[hardy solstice]

I like the horror aspect?

[sturdy tusk]

-# Valid-

[peak pecan]

Axe beak drumsticks

[twilit sail]

i have no idea what kind of domesticated animals orcs have

[arctic bobcat]

Me neither

[sturdy tusk]

Honestly, Its fine =-='
UNLESS You're FIghting a Very VERY Strong Enemy like Lich, Dragon, or Even a Knight
If you throw a 16 Year old at a Knight, thats just Sad

[twilit sail]

it says wolves or wargs here

[sturdy tusk]

but, its a GOOLock

[twilit sail]

also boars

so pork ig?

[hardy solstice]

True

[sturdy tusk]

So well
They might be a Bit more Knowledgable

[arctic bobcat]

Minors fighting were very very common in middle ages. Mostly cuz ppl didnt live long

[stuck shuttle]

Again not the point about your preference for underage characters subject to many, many horrors. There's other people playing that may be uncomfortable doing so, and in the narrative of the game it may be immersion-breaking to have competent adventurers ready and willing to subject a minor to the same horrors they face

[hardy solstice]

Or I think it was the pact that gave her the memory loss

[narrow moss]

what legal meat wouldn't an orc sell

[hardy solstice]

Yes it was the pact

[sturdy tusk]

GOOlocks use Like Cosmic Entities and Gods

[twilit sail]

king arthur was 15 when he pulled the sword lmao

[arctic bobcat]

Who says it has to be legal

[empty thicket]

orks in the new lore are like nomads i think, so some hunt meat would work on them

[narrow moss]

I do cuz I am not eating soylent green.

[sturdy tusk]

Lowk, It might be a Problem, unless they're Like a Warlock
GOOlock especially

[fading robin]

Heroes' Feast (the official 2020 cookbook, not the spell) has a recipe for "Orc" Bacon, I think that's pretty fun

[sturdy tusk]

Insanity and Knowledge

[hardy solstice]

I'm sorry, I read that in a HORRIBLY wrong context

[narrow moss]

lol

my work here is done apparently

[twilit sail]

what

[fading robin]

lmao

[narrow moss]

not intentional but yeah.

[twilit sail]

bacon made out of orcs?

[fading robin]

-# "No, it isn't made from orcs—but for orcs. Half-orcs find this delectable snack quite to their taste, as do the goliaths of Eberron and a few game humans and halflings. It is said that a half-orc named Mazmorras was the first to discover this pungent recipe for cured pork strips, which you can practically taste from twenty yards away. Sometimes called "the Pork of Gruumsh," orcs flavor it with black pepper and garlic; a halfling might instead smooth off the edge with some maple syrup. Experienced adventuring parties venturing into orc lands know that dropping a bundle of bacon can throw pursuers off their trail, and orcs have even been known to barter with humans who carry it. For best results, try using Thayan Doomvault Swine Run pork—it has the right potency."

[stuck shuttle]

I'd keep in mind these are all common threats, and the level of violence a typical D&D campaign gets to not everyone would be comfortable or readily able to subject minors to

[twilit sail]

ah ok ok

[sturdy tusk]

Boars, Buffaloes, Cows, Wolves, Horses, humans, and I think you can say Bears

[fading robin]

official description 😭

[hardy solstice]

ahem nevermind

[sturdy tusk]

They would sell these

[narrow moss]

i said not people

[hardy solstice]

She is still gonna be 16

[sturdy tusk]

Honestly after Seeing the Fight in my Campaign with Skeles
I gotta Agree

Make em 18 Minimum

[stuck shuttle]

Yeah your character your choice, my point is just that it makes it harder for the average table to play with that kind of character

[hardy solstice]

K wait brb chat

[hardy solstice]

Or other minors

I always play with other minors

[sturdy tusk]

Why you throwing a Minor at Fiends, Monsters and Undead
Thats just Sad

[sturdy tusk]

Irl or the PCs?

[hardy solstice]

Irl

Teenage party of PCs can get corny

[lusty tendon]

what about a tanya the evil like character

[narrow moss]

i don't think i could irl

[sturdy tusk]

Oh yeah

Honestly
The Goblin Wizard in my Campaign?

Im starting to think that he's a Child

[stuck shuttle]

I don't even wanna delve into the issues with that kind of character lol

[narrow moss]

idk with goblins.

[sturdy tusk]

-# The Goblin not the Man Playing him

[lusty tendon]

is he bubs by anychance

[sturdy tusk]

Oh hell no

[narrow moss]

bubs is sixty

[hardy solstice]

I give the age meaning, because I like the idea of a desperate young one be subjugated to horrors.

[sturdy tusk]

He's a Conjuring Wizard

[narrow moss]

nod nod

[sturdy tusk]

OH, wait yeah, makes sense

[hardy solstice]

Its nothing other than design philosophy

[sturdy tusk]

Give them immense Trauma

[lusty tendon]

reborn character lawful evil, and have them align with the partys goal

[hardy solstice]

Not like, twilight novel or shonen weeb stuff

Screw that

[sturdy tusk]

Lawful Neutral might be Better

Any Neutral I believe

[sturdy tusk]

Valid

[stuck shuttle]

That's not the part that's really the issue 😅

[sturdy tusk]

The Age

[lusty tendon]

just have them not be their for the romance

[narrow moss]

lawful evil can work but better to be Neutral in case you have That One Guy

[sturdy tusk]

But honestly
I vibe with it

[hardy solstice]

Mhm

[sturdy tusk]

Make them Traumatized, their Trauma should be as big as Asia

[woven flint]

I've played a Chaotic Evil character who worked together pretty solidly with his mostly good party

[lusty tendon]

how... they are chaotic evil

[hardy solstice]

No, I meant that metaphorically.

It can work, but I also like forest dwelling like LMOP

[narrow moss]

because chaos. and evil.

[sturdy tusk]

I am playing as a Chaotic Neutral Character, who's Unpredictable
The Party's Good, and he stays Good cuz he Needs them to find his Master/Creator

[hardy solstice]

I only play campaigns that involve a good chunk wilderness

[woven flint]

Well, his goal had

Nothing to do with them lol

[sturdy tusk]

Damn

[hardy solstice]

What?

[sturdy tusk]

No I mean, I like such Campaigns as well

[hardy solstice]

OH HELL YEAH

[woven flint]

He was also forced to work with them under threat of divine termination..
But he would've probably still done so anyway

[narrow moss]

so did they enslave him or did a god do it.

[hardy solstice]

You are so based

[woven flint]

He was a druid that hated all structures of civility and society...
But he didn't want the world to be destroyed

Which was the threat at the time

[lusty tendon]

so random question what is the best caster class in dnd 5.5 now (i vividly remember the sorcerer being the best in 5e)

[narrow moss]

is that chaotic evil tho

eh don't matter.

[twilit sail]

wizard is (usually) thought to be the best in 5e

but "best" is subjective

[narrow moss]

what caster do you like? there's your best.

[lusty tendon]

i mean meta magic makes the sorcerer op

[woven flint]

Yes!
He wanted to force everyone to live as beasts like he had, regardless of who they were

[twilit sail]

wizard learns waaaaay more spells

[sturdy tusk]

Subjectively
Cleric and Bard's are Exceptional in Support

Cleric is THE MOST Common Class associated with Support

[twilit sail]

sorcerer got buffed in 5.5 when wizard didnt rlly get that much

[sturdy tusk]

In Offense Sorcerer and Warlock

God, Warlocks and Sorcerers can be Strong

Imagine a Genie Warlock

[lusty tendon]

i feel they got nerfed as quicken spell now doesnt allow for 2 leveled spells per turn

[woven flint]

Druid is a good all-rounder caster

[twilit sail]

i feel like if you rely on a single metamagic option to be viable than maybe you werent a very well designed class

[glass granite]

Did quicken spell do that in 2014?

[woven flint]

Utility (especially considering wildshape)
Area Control
Healing
Decent Damage

[narrow moss]

yes think so

[sturdy tusk]

Warlocks I would say are the Strongest
They get Pseudo Feats in the Invocations
They get one of the Best Cantrips, Then even their Spells
Four is Small, but smartly Used can Decimate Opponents

[twilit sail]

arent warlocks halfcasters

[sturdy tusk]

That isn't even Talking about Subclasses

[woven flint]

Full-casters.

[sturdy tusk]

No Full
Wait Where did you get that from

[narrow moss]

warlocks are sugar babies

[twilit sail]

they have way less spells than the other spellcasters

[sturdy tusk]

Genie and Fiend are OP, Then Hexblade and Celestial

[glass granite]

I thought 2014 casting rules prohibited that

[stuck shuttle]

They get 9th level spells, they're full casters

[woven flint]

REGARDLESS of what anyone says

Warlocks ARE indeed fullcasters because they get up to 9th level spells.

[twilit sail]

ok

[narrow moss]

yeah they are

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah, but htey automatically are Used at the Highest Level

• 9th spell Slots

[twilit sail]

ok

[lusty tendon]

thats a fair asumption, i know wizards are known as being the best spell casters in general but i meant in combat, so im still going to assume the wizard is the best in combat in 5.5

[woven flint]

ALSO, they get more spell utility as they get slots back onba short rest

[sturdy tusk]

Warlocks are all Rounders Though

[woven flint]

No solid source of healing (even as a Celestial Warlock)

[sturdy tusk]

Pact of Tome is Strong, Chain is Good, Blade is Amazing for Melee

[lusty tendon]

2-3 spell slots, take it or leave it

[twilit sail]

arent clerics more well rounded? i feel like having access to utility spells on the go is pretty important

[sturdy tusk]

Clerics are Well Rounded

[glass granite]

Clerics are versatile ye

[twilit sail]

also theyre better at healing

[craggy summit]

Half casters are classes that get their spell progression at a slower pace than others. Paladin is the primary example

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm
Im going to Say it
Offensively, Warlocks are Amazing
Support and Versatility, Clerics

[woven flint]

(I speak from experience of having played a celestial warlock, they are NOT meant to be the sole healer of a party lol)

[twilit sail]

gotcha

[sturdy tusk]

They can also Change their Spells daily

• Light Clerics will show Enemies the Light
  The Light of Heaven or the Fires of Hell

[twilit sail]

clerics can do damage too

[woven flint]

Clerics are really strong in general

[glass granite]

Tempest cleric go brrr

[sturdy tusk]

Bards are Good, but Clerics in General are Versatile
Thats their Strength

[lusty tendon]

please wizards make arcane tricksters and eldritch knight fighters half casters, ingnoring the powerscaling consequences

[narrow moss]

Clerics are stronk

"To me, my knights"

[sturdy tusk]

They can Heal amzingly, And Support but their Offensive power is NOTHING to scoff at

[twilit sail]

channel divinity twilight sanctuary

[woven flint]

Majority of the Clerics I've played have dogged most fights they've been in

[lusty tendon]

5e free wish like spell at 10th level (1/10 chance)

[craggy summit]

EK is a full caster? 🤔 I thought it was a half, silly me

[lusty tendon]

1/3 caster

[olive storm]

I want meme comics of the Cleric using his Channel Divinity like a Domain Expansion.

[narrow moss]

ek and at were prestige classes once upon a time, yeah?

[craggy summit]

Ohhhh, see I didn't know that was a thing 😅

[woven flint]

But JJK is obnoxious 😔

[olive storm]

The community yes, the show and manga are very good.

[twilit sail]

the most broken subclass of today vs the broken subclass of history

[lusty tendon]

only for them as they are i think the only subclasses that allow for a dip into using magic in general

[woven flint]

JJK MEMES are obnoxious

Just like Jojo used to be

[olive storm]

But you do know it's JJK.

[narrow moss]

jjk?

[sturdy tusk]

Warlocks are Good, because of Mini Feats in Invocations, The Pacts, the Spellcasting and the Cantrip + Multiclass Potential + Hexblade, Genie and Fiend Subclasses
But Clerics Can change their Spells daily, good in Offense, The BEST Support Class, and genuinely have amazing Subclasses in Grave, Light, Life etc.

[olive storm]

Anti-fun detected. Stick in mud warning activated.

[twilit sail]

just joking kiddo

[lusty tendon]

vibraslap

all i need to say

[narrow moss]

hm idk what that is but thanks

[woven flint]

Sure lol

[lusty tendon]

jujutsu kaisen, but a very tad off topic

[olive storm]

I think they meant vibraslap.

[woven flint]

I'm definitely a stick in the mud type person

Make assumptions about me because I don't like things you do :p

[narrow moss]

warlocks are meant to fill gaps imho. Or to snipe.

[twilit sail]

why didnt gojo just use metamagic in his fight with sukuna? is he stupid?

[olive storm]

My bad. I'm just messing around.

Does Sukuna's sever technique require line of sight? If I cast Darkness does it stop him from using it?

[woven flint]

I deal with overly defensive jjk fans all the time when I say I don't enjoy their memes flooding every single conversation ever

Its kinda hard not to be jaded

[arctic bobcat]

What would a crew of kobolds sell?

[sturdy tusk]

They meant to be this Offensive Beast, that can be a problem using, but your Game Knowledge and your Creativity is what makes them Strong
Warlocks are spectacular in Lore, while their Subclasses[Except Undying], Are Really Good. Hexblade the Gish Subclass, Fiend and GOOlocks are Strong, Genies are OP, and Undead is Cool

[lusty tendon]

he was also dealing with a tarasque and a heal bot enemy

[twilit sail]

trenchcoats

[narrow moss]

shinies

[olive storm]

I mean it's whatever. The community is super toxic.

BUT BACK TO MUH DUNGUNS AND DAGONS!

[arctic bobcat]

Preferably funny rather than useful

[sturdy tusk]

Daggers, Clothes, Shiny Objects
Their Broken Scales or Teeth

[twilit sail]

i want to dragon a dungeon...but i have yet to in one of my games yet

[woven flint]

EVERYONE

Look at the ICEWINDALE KOBOLD art..

NOW!!!

It's literally three kobolds in a trenchcoat.

[narrow moss]

noice.

[barren badger]

Icewind dale is very cold

[arctic bobcat]

Dungeons? And dragons? Say that again

[olive storm]

Of course. It's to stay warm. This is just optimal.

[woven flint]

It's amazing

[lusty tendon]

still love that character idea

[olive storm]

Wow... I can't believe there was a dungeon and a dragon.

[lusty tendon]

say that again

[woven flint]

It's honestly super cute

[arctic bobcat]

that again

[woven flint]

Uh.. you guys might hate me

But my Triton dangled a Kobold over a cavern to get information from them today

[twilit sail]

are you batman...

[lusty tendon]

hmm send him to the gallows

immediately

[olive storm]

Jail.

[woven flint]

He let it run free afterwards..
But uh..
It ran into the giant rats our druid talked to and they ate it

[narrow moss]

rat jail

[woven flint]

He was never intending on it dying

[barren badger]

you can drop the kobold

its okay, we have plenty of them

[woven flint]

The Cleric got tired of him trying to be kind and parley, so, to prove a point, he dangled the kobold over the cavern 😭

He didn't feel good about it

[narrow moss]

remind them constantly

in good fun of course.

[barren badger]

have the kobold make a return

[woven flint]

If it makes everyone feel happier, our party has a mummy that travels with them

She was an Elvish lady and she's kind of a hippy
And I show her nothing but kindness

[narrow moss]

careful of mummy rot.

[woven flint]

Unironically, I believe she's a completely Good aligned undead

Or at least a very friendly lass

[narrow moss]

didn't say she wasn't.

[lost flicker]

What spell is Zahra casting in s2e3 of vox machina when she located the temple under water?

Do we know?

[barren badger]

How did the spell behave?

[narrow moss]

i lack all context.

[last flume]

You mean when she parted the lake? Cause that would be Control Water

[lavish flame]

She cast the "locate the temple spell" in Vox Machina /j

Her D&D character never showed off any ability to do... like any of what she did in the cartoon. She was a Warlock, and in her handful of appearances, we saw her cast like 10 spells. None of them were Control Water, which would be able to part a lake like in the show.

[ornate rapids]

controlling that much water at once would really only be Control Water

[lavish flame]

Zahra was dope tho, don't let my message misconstrue that. She does some fun stuff for a first-time player

[lost flicker]

....gotcha

[lavish flame]

Tsunami is also up there, but thats not gonna split a lake, thats gonna cause a tsunami.

[lost flicker]

I'm guessing that means we also don't know what the water cyclone spell was then

[peak pecan]

They aren’t casting specific spells on the shows; just doing things equivalent to what ends up happening in the livestreams

It’s what looks good for a much shorter narrative, not a 1:1 adaptation

[sonic oar]

Hmmm

[limber trail]

The show adapts some of the ideas but it’s not a beat for beat play of DnD. A lot of spells are the same but it’s not identical

[lost flicker]

Gotcha,

[limber trail]

I will say I thought mighty nein was a lot better with being very recognisable - basically every character is recognisably doing their class features.

[lavish flame]

Well, Control Water can also introduce a whirlpool into a body of water. I don't think thats quite what she did, but its close. You might just want to look for a persistent aoe damage spell for that. They take liberties where they can to make stuff cooler

[last flume]

The Temple door was under water in the animated show though, the red Tiefling Lady pushed the water to both sides so they could pass the door.
Sounds like Control Water to me

[ornate rapids]

its definitely the closest equivilent

[last flume]

One of Control Water's abilities:
"Part Water: You cause water in the area to move apart and create a trench. The trench extends across the spell's area, and the separated water forms a wall to either side. The trench remains until the spell ends or you choose a different effect. The water then slowly fills in the trench over the course of the next round until the normal water level is restored."

[lavish flame]

This was maybe the coolest part of watching Mighty Nein tbh. I was recognizing spell components and class features from the game.

[jolly canyon]

Gwyn. Session one for Oracle of War was fun!

[limber trail]

The final episode from memory had a lot of cool spells. I think ravenous void came out at one point? It ruled.

[lavish flame]

wooo! you love to hear it

[ornate rapids]

never used ravenous void but i am very familiar with its little brother, Dark Star

[lavish flame]

what was ur first adventure? are u going in nunerical order?

[olive storm]

Hey guys how's it going?

[jolly canyon]

Yee numerical

[olive storm]

I'm at work atm.

[last flume]

This creature is going to sleep soon meow

[olive storm]

Goodnight!

I wanna make a satyr but all my satyrs are adorable beans that don't fit my Curse of Strahd game.

[crimson gulch]

And my pc death toll rises to 32 for the year, my best freinds tabaxi rogue dead to a blue dragon wymling

[olive storm]

I love my GM so much. He is making me a blue mage class.

(Blue mages are mages in Final Fantasy that use monster skills)

[woven flint]

If I made a Saytr, I think I'd purposely make them non-whimsical as a counter to the cliche of the species being seen as endless revelers

[frail wasp]

like missile, and level 5 death

[olive storm]

I mean I can make an edgy satyr.

I just like them as golden retrievers.

[woven flint]

Not an edgy one

Just a sad fella

[olive storm]

I play Vampire: The Masquerade. I am very good at making morally dubious characters.

[woven flint]

"I dunno, I just don't like dancing."

"Or beer. Or music... I just wanna sleep"

Sleepy Undead Warlock Saytr

[ornate rapids]

a satyr that crossed an evil fey and had their whimsy stolen

[woven flint]

Made a deal with an undead so they can sleep forever without starving lol

Maybe waking every few years to do a task then go back to sleep after

[barren badger]

my players are level 7 and I'm putting together an encounter

[olive storm]

Why am I just picturing the pukey girl from drunk goddess reflux?

I can't post images so just use Google if you're curious.

[barren badger]

and i keep looking at the xp budget. it feels like it'll be too much, but they should be able to handle it...

But what if I kill someone?

[woven flint]

If you kill someone..

They make a new character
Or...
The party finds someone to revive them

Or

[olive storm]

D&D is a capitalist sham. The diamond market is literally leveraging our deaths against us...

[woven flint]

A party member revives them

[ornate rapids]

i lost my cleric for awhile in a campaign setting where resurrection magic (beyond revivify) was thought impossible
him coming back did happen, not too long ago, but it kind of temporarily broke the world around them for a short time
that was interesting

[woven flint]

I'm not trying to be rude, but you don't have to ping respond every message, friend, I see all 👁️

[empty thicket]

If you grab a diamond worth 3000gp and break it into 10 pieces, you could use 10 revivifis?

[olive storm]

Oh my b.

[woven flint]

It's alright
I've got my eyes on you /silly

[ornate rapids]

2 of the 6 people in my friend group dm long-haul campaigns and a third has come forward with plans for another campaign from lvls 3-20
excited to figure out what character I will use for another long haul

maybe it's time to finally try the artificer

[woven flint]

I'm okay with my characters dying frankly
A lot of them would rather die in combat over age

My Warforged could've died to a Dullahan tonight ..

If he wasn't completely immune to critical hits 💀

He's also a Warforged
With a Docent

That can stablize him at the end of his turn if he's downed

(If it succeeds a medicine check)

He's got the Juggernaut Plating feat from Exploring Eberron (Makes a Warforged individual immune to crits)
Which is good..
Because he's a Pugilist and can't wear anything other than light armor

Which he doesn't

[ornate rapids]

that feat alone makes me want to play a warforged

[still plover]

It's a question for the DM. I believe technically it may be possible to make one big rock into multiple smaller rocks with a greater total value than the original, if you know what you're doing.

[woven flint]

Exploring Eberron IS Third Party though, so its got to be approved by your dm

[ornate rapids]

usually isn't a problem for my group

[still plover]

But the whole thing of the value of spell components has always been iffy to me. "Worth" is a social construct.

[woven flint]

My Warforged is naned Sentry
He's a Dog & Hound Pugilist

His dog died in combat today

But thats okay.. he was able to just revive it lol

I flavored him reviving it as a built in defibrillator and doing chest compressions

[ornate rapids]

i'd like to think when spells are calling for components worth 'x' amount it's a convenient stand-in for a weight measurement
like revivify requiring diamond weighing 'x' grams, but judging it by gold value makes it easier for players

[peak pecan]

I’d say it requires a proficiency in Jeweler’s Tools and a check, but sure

[muted stag]

Would here be a good place to post a really cool combo I’ve figured out for Circle of the Titan that uses fall damage?

[mighty pulsar]

Can a primal companion wear magic items?

[humble cairn]

True, but this is where D&D is a game and not an economy simulator.

[neat marsh]

Different aspects attract different people.

[olive storm]

Mathfinder indeed.

[humble cairn]

RAW yes, but I would ask your DM first.

[mighty pulsar]

Not for me, but I will relay that. Thanks.

[olive storm]

Honestly, I am impressed by D&D's tendency to actively gimp its spells from being useful to infrastructure of cities.

• Continual Flame does not generate heat.
• Magic Mouth consumes its component iirc.
• Magic items are impossible to mass produce because the science of making them has been mostly lost.
• Animate Dead requires active upkeep.

Just like a bunch of things.

Continual Flame not generating heat is so absurd. Like what is the point of the flame at that point?

[neat marsh]

Light

[ornate rapids]

decoration!

[olive storm]

That is a cantrip.

[neat marsh]

With a duration

[olive storm]

Continual Flame is a second level spell.

[ornate rapids]

the fact that it doesn't generate heat makes it a great lantern for caves and mines where natural gas might exist

[olive storm]

When are you going to need a permanent light? It's a 0-level spell. Just cast it again.

[humble cairn]

So you don't have to spend money on fuel for your light source. And it's safe so it won't burn down your library. Which is where they'd use it mainly, imo.

Initial cost nothwithstanding.

[neat marsh]

When the cleric doesn’t want to live in the cave but visit again sometime.

[olive storm]

It's such a situational spell and the name is actively misleading.

[humble cairn]

It's very bougie, but it's a status symbol to be able to light your expensive library this easy.

[olive storm]

Should have been called continual light and not even been fire.

[odd valley]

the issue with torches and natural gas isn’t that torches give off heat, it’s the way they do so, via combustion

[winged bobcat]

I think enchantment is a more evil school of magic than necromancy

[olive storm]

Like a continual flame can still ignite natural gas.

[humble cairn]

Again, game, not reality simulator which includes not an infrastructure or logistics simulator. Anyone people start extrapolating PC abilities or into the societal level I stop then and remind them that PC spells are not necessarily accessible to NPCs.

Not everyone in every setting has easy access to magic at all.

[olive storm]

I know but in a setting with magic, that magic would be used in society.

It feels like Forgotten Realms wants to really crudely insist that wizards be these secretive, often shunned sages all the time even when it doesn't make sense.

Like magic is this heavily feared and mysterious thing not because it would be but because Gygax said so.

Sorry, I'm really irritable and IDK why.

[muted stag]

Okay, so this is for an 18th level Circle of the Titan druid in Insectoid form (I also have a Crooked Moon feat that gives me a free Attack action.)

Assuming creature is grappled at 40ft at start of turn:

• drop 40ft, 4d6
• fall onto them 40ft, 4d6
• reverse gravity then release concentration, 10d6,
• fall onto them, 10d6
• grappling rend x2, 8d8 + 18
• fly up 40ft and drop, 4d6
• fall onto them 40ft, 4d6

Total damage:

36d6 bludgeoning + 4d8 piercing + 4d8 [elemental] + 18 damage

Max damage:
178 in a single turn

Lemme know if I got anything wrong!!

[mighty pulsar]

Maybe a hot air balloon?

[olive storm]

It doesn't generate heat. You can't use it for a hot air balloon.

Because it does not heat the air.

[mighty pulsar]

Oh yeah I’m stupid 😭

It’s in the name too

[olive storm]

It's fine. We're paladins. We're allowed to be a little dumb.

[humble cairn]

IF magic is accessible enough to enough people, which it might not be. And even if so the PC spell list isn't necessarily the same list of magic available to non PCs.

[mighty pulsar]

This sounds like a monstrosity to deal with.

[muted stag]

Once I reach next level I can use an epic boon to drop on them again for a 3d6

[olive storm]

Sorry, I just realized that I'm not really fit for this debate right now. Maybe we could discuss it later when I'm feeling better?

[humble cairn]

Ok, hope you feel better soon!

[narrow moss]

I'd assume you would have consumer safe spells, adventurer spells, and then industrial level magic and machines depending on setting

[olive storm]

I wish I could bottle what I like about satyrs and study it for science.

(This is the premise of Eberron)

[narrow moss]

using a small spell for a large steam engine would be insufficient.

guess it depends on a lot of stuff.

[olive storm]

How many volts is shocking grasp again?

Imagine how many cities could be fuelled by cantrip casters just shocking grasping lightning rods over and over.

[narrow moss]

it's more about duration for that.

once every six seconds would be tiring.

[olive storm]

You could probably build some form of device that harnesses the magic from spells to like... Turn a wheel or something.

[narrow moss]

shrugs

[olive storm]

Because it always goes back to turning a wheel for humans.

Everything we do is to turn wheels.

[narrow moss]

spells meant for combat would be ill-suited for infrastructure imho

[olive storm]

Our society revolves around a wheel that revolves.

[ornate rapids]

the concept of multiple casters shooting lightning to generate power is kind of what they did in The Legend of Korra with a bunch of firebenders
it was like a fulltime job

it could be plausible but a physically demanding job

[neat marsh]

The damage from you falling on them would be split evenly between the two of you. Otherwise this seems doable.

[olive storm]

Oh crap is this guy reinventing... Is it... OH NO! IT'S THE OWLBEAR FROM THE TOP ROPE!

David Druidsta is at it once again with his druidsta bomb.

[barren badger]

Idk why you’d even need electricity.

Like, you could cool your house with magic

[muted stag]

Oh right

[hot reef]

So everyone can have electricity

Not everyone has the potential or time to learn various magics

[humble cairn]

I'm a little confused about what satyrs have to do with the Arcano-Industrial Revolution premise of Eberron.

[humble cairn]

I mean in a world where the industrial revolution was based on magic, the power grid would be magic.

[barren badger]

Would there even be an Industrial Revolution?

Why industrialize when magic is around

[humble cairn]

The same reason we industrialized in the real world?

[ornate rapids]

that's generally why technology in dnd settings is medieval era or thereabouts

sometimes some mild steampunk

[olive storm]

No, it's unrelated. I just like satyrs and wanna squeeze them into a bottle and refine it.

Purified satyr.

[humble cairn]

I mean that is the premise of Eberron. It's a world which is post Industrial Revolution, but the advances are based on magic.

[olive storm]

It's also a cold war setting!

[muted stag]

Y’know, I’ve always considered that rule to be poorly thought out. You’d think dropping a Terrasque on a goblin would deal a little bit more damage to one than the other

[humble cairn]

Like how they represent sexual and moral liberation?

[olive storm]

I don't know about any of that complicated stuff. I just think they're neat.

I like what I feel are the character concepts satyrs contribute to.

[neat marsh]

Ever step on a Lego?

[olive storm]

I feel they are very evocative.

[humble cairn]

Complicated? Hmm .. are you only referring to satyrs and how they're portrayed in D&D?

[olive storm]

I mean I like them in Changeling: The Dreaming as well.

I just like them.

[humble cairn]

Because satyrs have a history from way before D&D that's also very rich and interesting. If you like satyrs, read into the Greek mythology behind them.

[olive storm]

I already know.

What D&D player didn't grow up reading mythology?

[sweet pecan]

Hi guys Im new

[barren badger]

I’ll be honest, I don’t know a lot about the history of eberron. 😅

Something dragons? Something war?

[neat marsh]

They’re not really great dudes in Greek myth

[olive storm]

Hi new, I'm guys!

[sweet pecan]

I did

Also read the percy jackson stuff

[olive storm]

If you could be the child of one god, what would you pick?

[humble cairn]

Oh it's a great setting! They call it a "wide magic" setting, in that magic of low levels is assumed to be widely available to people. Like even in a group of commoners you expect at least one person to be able to cast a Cantrip.

[ornate rapids]

I should have my druid summon a satyr to the field next time he's in combat
there's a CR 6 satyr which i could use with conjure fey

[worthy maple]

I didn't read much general mythology, I always specialized in egyptian, which only comes in handy for a few specific situations, less than I woul dhope

[sweet pecan]

I think I would go with athena but would hang out with the hunters of artemis

[humble cairn]

And Eberron has trains and airplanes and stuff because they industrialized, but their advances were made with magic.

[livid brook]

mechanically speaking Paladin/warlock shouldnt work lore wise because they worship two different entities but is one of the strongest multiclasses

[muted stag]

Of course the Tarrasque would take damage, but you’re telling me a goblin wouldn’t be affected by well over 1000lbs of force rather than 150?

[olive storm]

Maybe you swore your oath to your patron? Nothing says paladins have to worship a divine being.

[neat marsh]

I’m just saying it’s complicated. Your dm can adjust the numbers to better reflect the situation.

[ornate rapids]

paladins don't have to worship a deity, they get their power through their oath
and warlocks don't have to worship their patron they just get their power from them through some sort of deal/pact/contract/etc

[barren badger]

Paladins don’t have to worship anyone

[livid brook]

ah

cleric then?

[peak pecan]

Why wouldn’t that work mechanically? You don’t even have to be devoted to a god to be a Paladin

[olive storm]

You can be a cleric of an evil god like Asmodeus.

[peak pecan]

Also doesn’t technically have to worship a god, funnily enough

[ornate rapids]

and you can be a warlock of a good-aligned patron

[barren badger]

It depends on the patron. What if it’s a celestial? Your god might be cool with that

[livid brook]

oh thats funny

[barren badger]

Or you could worship an evil god.

[olive storm]

Honestly the difference between Sorcerer, Warlock and Cleric are mostly semantics.

[sweet pecan]

Tbh im kinda new so idk what role i should choose yet

[olive storm]

Because a Warlock pact is etched into the Warlock's soul, and could thus be a sorcererous origin.

[worthy maple]

(Ik not greek mythology but Sekhmet)

[barren badger]

Wizard: smart kid
Sorcerer: rich dad
Cleric: rich dad but the dad makes you ask nicely

[olive storm]

You need to sign it in blood, in triplicate so be very afraid.

[severe rampart]

In game or in this server?

[barren badger]

Warlock: rich creepy uncle

[peak pecan]

Not technically?

[sweet pecan]

In the game

[severe rampart]

Stereotypes...

[barren badger]

Sorry….

[severe rampart]

Well depends, in games do you usually like to fight or heal or support?

[severe rampart]

It's fine

[humble cairn]

1. What God you may worship and what Patron you have are flavor not mechanics
2. Paladins don't need to worship a God
3. Warlock Patrons don't really get to say what you do or who you worship

[sweet pecan]

I like support and healing usually

[severe rampart]

Clerics and Bards!

[sweet pecan]

Ooo thanks

[barren badger]

Or Druids!

[shut prairie]

Yo wassup

Do you guys wanna play a game I just started

[muted stag]

Yeah, how I run fall damage in my campaigns is that you only take damage from falling more than twice your height (depends, in some scenarios), and you take an extra d6 for each size larger that the creature falling on you is

[severe rampart]

I assume when you're falling you're horizontal

Unless you're a tabaxi, or a monk.

Or both

And now I'm getting that same feeling of wanting to play a Tabaxi Monk.

[barren badger]

I picture a tabaxi landing on all fours like a cat

[olive storm]

Warlock: Used car salesmen.

[severe rampart]

I don't wanna play another martial, I still remember not hitting 10+ in a row

[shut prairie]

You guys wanna play or can I join you in one ???

[severe rampart]

Ehhh... I dunno about that

[shut prairie]

I am new

[severe rampart]

Damn Silas.

[narrow moss]

ir's a business partnership

[severe rampart]

Always the unlucky one

[narrow moss]

-# what'd I do

[worthy maple]

I like playing martials, Especially barbarians. Barbarians are fun to break when you know how to do it

[severe rampart]

I think I also had like 3 nat ones in a row

[severe rampart]

Silas is the name of my human fighter bard

[narrow moss]

tbh great for rp too bg3 gave me so many options lol

[severe rampart]

Dual Wielder

[livid brook]

if wotc were to add a new class yall think it would be a martial or a caster

[narrow moss]

i figured Echo i was just teasing.

[olive storm]

Hi new!

[barren badger]

I’ve actually been having a lot of fun playing as my warlocks patron.

It’s probably not RAW, but he was a squire of a devout knight to a holy god. His knight fell in battle and something something afterlife, something something celestial patron.

[olive storm]

Ares!

[shut prairie]

Wassup wanna play

[barren badger]

Oh?

[ornate rapids]

casters because Wizards of the Coast loves casters

[olive storm]

Slay my foes, and my life is yours!

[severe rampart]

Atk miss, Nick Mastery, miss, then I used luck points to reroll them, both missed again, I then used action surge, Atk miss, Bonus Action two weapon fighting miss, I used luck point and my heroic inspirations, still missed

And then next round I missed two attacks again, ten rolls in a row I missed

[humble cairn]

Avenging angel patron?

[ornate rapids]

they kind of are adding a new class though which is the Psion
assuming that makes it out of UA this time

[narrow moss]

who knows

[humble cairn]

The dice hated you.

[livid brook]

im hoping for a martial that gets some magic

[severe rampart]

I believe I didn't roll a single one above an 8.

I posted it somewhere here.

[livid brook]

kind of like a monk with enchanted fists

[barren badger]

Just celestial!

[olive storm]

It's just a coincidence Eddy!

[humble cairn]

That is not an assumption we can make.

[olive storm]

Bad luck isn't real! It's a coincidence Eddy!

[worthy maple]

I think that would be nice, sort of a middle ground

[humble cairn]

Oh like mystery celestial?

[ornate rapids]

I hope it does but if it doesn't I'll just play the UA one at some point

[severe rampart]

In another game I was using this Human Eldritch Knight, I rolled three natural ones in a row, social encounter 😭

[barren badger]

Dice jail. Digital dice jail?

[narrow moss]

i wouldn't mind some kinda spellblade that isn't just "wizard get sord"

[severe rampart]

Worse part is that exact scenario has happened more than once.

Here it is...

[olive storm]

Be careful what you wish for. Magus is the worst class in Pathfinder.

[narrow moss]

dice jail dice jail dice jail

[barren badger]

You know people love gish, but idk what an ideal gish play style would look like…

[ornate rapids]

the humble blade pact warlock

[olive storm]

Literally Paladin.

[narrow moss]

ehhh

[olive storm]

Paladin is the best gish.

[shut prairie]

Do you guys wanna hop on a call and play some games

[barren badger]

Yeah, I think so.

[humble cairn]

I don't expect WOTC to add a new class quickly to often at all. With their licensing and push toward third party creators, they don't have to because third parties are taking the risk of innovating for them.

[livid brook]

is this currently possible?

[narrow moss]

i know but it isn't arcane

[barren badger]

That’s not exactly how looking for games works…

[livid brook]

.

[severe rampart]

You can't say it's the best, period

[narrow moss]

idk what i'd even want tbh

[barren badger]

Tattoo!!

[olive storm]

I'm currently at work at a homeless shelter so unless you wanna hear some background noise, I probably shouldn't.

[severe rampart]

Preferences, weaknesses and strength make up a class

[muted stag]

If my players give me a valid reason for not being prone while falling, I let em. (Monk, fly speed, really high dex, acrobatics prof., etc)

[shut prairie]

I never played sorry how do I find a game e

[olive storm]

Paladin is good at everything except stealth.

[humble cairn]

Depends on how you define "ideal" I guess? We have two gish classes and many gish subclasses to meet people's needs, though there's probably still room for different styles.

[severe rampart]

I dunno about the flying one. Unless it's specified they hover.

[shut prairie]

No problem

[barren badger]

Can WOTC even add another class to the SRD/OGL?

[still plover]

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[humble cairn]

How about a Monk that enchants their fists with elemental power, can fly, and blast elemental energy?

[olive storm]

Ascendant Dragon Monk.

[barren badger]

I just don’t know what a fun Gish would be?

Do you attack with weapons? Cantrips?

How do you want to spend your turns

[severe rampart]

I'm a Valor Bard, I use my action to attack, two attacks at lower levels because of Nick mastery, I use my bonus action to either heal or give out bardics, and I give openings for my other party members.

[humble cairn]

And Elements Monk.

[shut prairie]

Thank you

[ornate rapids]

the new artificer can also be a gish

armorer especially seems fun

[barren badger]

See, I feel like we can already fill the roll of Gish

[humble cairn]

There are a lot of ways to split that magic vs weapons split and I don't think there's one "ideal" way, everyone likes different aspects.

[severe rampart]

Valor Bard

First attack, then Nick mastery, use the extra attack feature of substituing a weapon attack for a cantrip, use booming blade.

[agile jungle]

Hmmm

[severe rampart]

There are extra attacks that let you change one attack to a cantrip.

[neat marsh]

Multiclass is also a thing.

[humble cairn]

But yeah, what I'm saying to Neotis is that we already have Monks that can enchant their fists.

[narrow moss]

i don't mc if i don't need to

[ornate rapids]

really though when it comes to swords n' spells nothing beats paladin or blade pact warlocks
quite fun

[agile jungle]

Would wild magic sorcerer be a good job to bring to into the feywild

[humble cairn]

While using Shillelagh to use your casting mod to attack, and enchanting yourself with Conjure Minor Elementals. Valor Bard is a really nice gish build all on its own.

[severe rampart]

I play a Yuan Ti Wild Magic Sorcerer with the DDB drop internal pact, I almost never get punished for wild magic surges

[severe rampart]

You get it

[ornate rapids]

the feywild is rife with chaotic magic so wild magic sorcerers definitely fit there

[severe rampart]

Also Fount of Moonlight at lower levels instead of CME

[humble cairn]

One turn I even used that combo and Steel Wind Strike, all of that damage stacking.

[barren badger]

EK!

[severe rampart]

But I do use an enspelled shortsword with hunters Mark to deal more damage at lower levels

[livid brook]

quick question

[ornate rapids]

gonna remember that
sounds like a fun combo

[barren badger]

Sure! What’s up

[severe rampart]

At level 5(2 Fighter, 3 Bard) I can deal 7d6+12 points of damage per turn

[muted stag]

Well, if a bird were to fall, it’s probably not going to flail around

[humble cairn]

It does take being level 10+ for Magical Secrets.

[muted stag]

Ig it depends on how they fly

[severe rampart]

Enspelled Weapons get the job done 😋

[humble cairn]

Best to just jump in with the question rather than asking to ask.

[severe rampart]

#optimization

Be warned, optimization is mostly 2014

[livid brook]

ah

never happened :)

[dense parrot]

How bad would it be if a DM made the warlocks patron as the BBEG?
I’m sure it’s been done before, of course. But I’ve personally never seen it so

[ocean musk]

I have officially had my craziest, hopefully worst, DnD game experience of my life bro

[peak pecan]

It wouldn’t be bad, so long as you discussed it with the player in question to see if that’s something they’d be interested in/willing to roleplay

[narrow moss]

it really depends yeah

[dense parrot]

Did you accidentally kill your party? Like TKO your whole party lmao

[ocean musk]

Actually I was a player, it got brought up by a friend of a friend who bought a starter kit and was DMing by the seat of his pants, me being the only other person to have ever played a ttrpg. (The DM guy has played before, but his understanding of like the core game mechanics weren’t great either)

Thankfully it was just like a one shot for this bachelor trip we’re on and everyone still had fun

[dense parrot]

Lmao
Aww babys first DM session
I wanna have my first DM session too but I moved to such a small town it’s almost entirely a retirement town full of old people

[narrow moss]

meanwhile char discussion is somehow making a drag queen paladin work

[dense parrot]

I’m not old, this is just where I grew up and I moved back lmao

[narrow moss]

eh idk i live in a small town

[severe rampart]

I mean, why wouldnt it work

[narrow moss]

ikr

[ocean musk]

Yeah dude it was tough bc I’m not like personally super experienced in campaigns but I have read the PHB front to back bc the rules hit my ADHD brain like crack. He didn’t use AC right, there was not a single saving throw in a 3 hour session, we mostly rolled raw attribute checks (skills were basically unused) and I was nerfing my own wizard spells down to how they actually work bc he didn’t really know and was rule of cooling it

[livid brook]

which monk subclass is the most, "fight everything on sight"

[ocean musk]

I respect his attempt and honestly when everyone, even my brother who HATES most nerd stuff, has a good time with it you’ve succeeded overall. I was just gritting my teeth

[ocean musk]

I think drunken is most obvious for the RP of that but “best” is hard to say, you can make most of them pretty scrappy if you want

[livid brook]

most willing

[hot gate]

The fact that everyone was having fun is the best takeaway here. Often, rules don't matter all that much, unless someone has less fun because of how they're applied

Get the broad strokes right, then go from there.

[narrow moss]

fun is good

[ocean musk]

Yeah exactly my point. I tried to help instill a lot of the most important things about like focusing on yourself and your impact on the game and the story instead of trying to like plan other people’s moves for them just for optimization and like how you always ask your DM HOW to try to do something and not CAN you do something. I was the only one struggling and its just bc I already have to intentionally remind myself not to rules lawyer even experienced DMs

[ocean musk]

If not drunken I think it has to be Open Hand right?

[hot gate]

It's certainly hard to balance! Usually I find it best to get permission from the DM as to how much they're comfortable with you correcting something, or ask them to ask you if they don't know.

[livid brook]

is there any class that even benefits from trident?

only one that comes to mind is kensei

[manic raptor]

I'm pretty new but I think fighters and barbarians do

[ocean musk]

That’s how it was at first but at the point where everyone really started to enjoy themselves and started asking like real questions I felt like I had to get more involved. They started talking about wanting to try to be players in either a campaign with me or just other games that they’d find and letting them get false and confusing responses to their questions felt like a disservice to them for how much they’ll have to relearn in 90% of games they’d join ya know?

[neat marsh]

Is this for 2014 content or 2024? Topple can definitely benefit monks.

[livid brook]

newest

[ornate rapids]

being able to throw it makes it fun to force flying enemies to go prone and fall
if you have an artificer you could make a Returning Weapon with one which returns to your hand immediately after you hit (or miss) with a throwing attack

[hot gate]

Understandeable instinct and if everyone had fun it seems to have worked. Sometimes it can swing around to being patronizing and make the DM feel like they don't have any say

[narrow moss]

Yes make the god of the universe angry. What could go wrong.

[humble cairn]

Any subclass can be that? Anything more specific?

[humble cairn]

I've had a good time using tridents on Paladin.

[lavish flame]

ive been thinking of using a trident for my fighter for its Mastery property, but it just isnt in the aesthetic

[manic raptor]

Ranger can do it too I think

[narrow moss]

Queen slay

[neat marsh]

Alternating javelin and trident is a great form of control for martials. Using them with swarm keeper ranger or open hand monk can be fun.

[ocean musk]

In all honesty I was probably bordering on frustrating him a bit but I absolutely let him know that I’d stop if he preferred and I tried to focus mostly on individual character stuff. He never said anything and honestly that’s also good learning experience for an up and coming DM to learn how to communicate your wishes with your players, and we still all had fun

[humble cairn]

I used Light Hammers and Trident, Nick Mastery is fun.

[neat marsh]

Nick is always good. You can use crusher with hammers too.

[dense parrot]

Wizard with a fighter or monk subclass is basically just a fail safe for when you run out of spell slots lmao

[ocean musk]

My last campaign I was a champion fighter and my whole thing was defensive plate and a shield. My DM ended up giving me a magic Pick Hammer (called it the Gnomish Bouncer? Iirc it was homebrew) that bounced to new targets to reroll new attacks on criticals. He failed to consider champion gives you 3 chances at criticals at higher levels. It was not uncommon for me to chain multiple (usually 2-3) attacks on each attack. The game dissolved but I wonder how intensely he regrets that decision

[neat marsh]

Monks not really going to add much to wizard. Fighter is a fair dip for almost any class.

[severe rampart]

So far into the session I've rolled a 3 and a 2

[neat marsh]

You’re going to need a sacred ritual to banish your luck from those dice.

[ocean musk]

Blow on them, it works every time

[neat marsh]

Were you a gnome?

[ocean musk]

The funniest part is no, no I wasn’t. I was a human but I offered my earlier magic weapon as a good faith gesture to a copper dragon bc I had a panic attack and burned his forest down. Eventually we completed the quest for the dragon and he gave me the bouncer and mentioned him “being fond of the original owner” so I think it was an unexplored plot hook

[neat marsh]

Picking champion subclass and not having elven accuracy is such a missed opportunity.

[ocean musk]

I’m not a big power gamer, the character was just supposed to be a mercenary who specialized in defensive tactics with like interceptor and sentinel etc bc our party had 0 healers so we needed a sponge

[neat marsh]

It’s just crazy when you have 27% chance to crit on every attack

[ocean musk]

Like I had 4 different feats/maneuvers that required me to use my reaction and most of my combat before then was spent trying to strategically position myself and wait for the right uses of my reactions. Most of the power spike I got was genuinely receiving that weapon bc I was just using a steel sword and the intention for champion was the bonus movement and athletics for me to be able to like interpose myself between my party and enemies.

Increased crit rate was just a bonus that helped me sort of keep up with being able to provide chip enough that you couldn’t just ignore me.

[neat marsh]

Personally I don’t consider it power gaming for a character to develop skills in what they spend most of their time doing. For the role you’re describing battle master, rune knight, eldritch knight, or psi warrior would be better suited. Maybe even take a rogue dip for more ba utility. That’s just my opinion; of course.

[vestal gust]

Hello everyone!

[neat marsh]

Hiya

[ocean musk]

Right but hear me out here right:

Full plate and a shield is 20 AC so landing attack rolls on me is difficult. How do DM’s get around high AC players? Saving throws. Remarkable Athlete lets you add half of your proficiency bonus on top of all strength, Dex and Con rolls that you’re not proficient in. I saved on a LOT of saving throws thanks to that bonus in that campaign.

The athleticism is just fun for me in combat even if the benefits are pretty minor but the main goal was Survivor at 18th level, even considering multiclassing after 18, but campaign never made it that far

[vestal gust]

Is this the place to share silly Bag of Holding shenanigans? As in, stuff that actually happened at my table? 😛

(Not as the GM, I was the player doing the shenanigans.)

(But this campaign had LOTS of homebrew stuff.)

(Some of them DIRECTLY connecting to the Bag of Holding shenanigans.)

[ocean musk]

I’m using “power gaming” very loosely here, I just meant I wasn’t aware of that combo at the time and when I learned about it, I felt like it changed the character I was playing more than I liked so I passed

[ocean musk]

This sounds like how I set up my story about the Corpse Hole

[neat marsh]

I’d love to hear the story

[vestal gust]

So, let me start by saying this was NOT planned. It was the intersection of a Homebrew Background, and a Quest Reward/

So my gal was one Lynne. Also known as The Huntress. Fae Bloodline Sorceress with the custom Otherwordly background.

[cerulean monolith]

What size would you expect a baby mammoth to be?

[vestal gust]

She had a few homebrew knicknacks including a mysterious Slate that only she seemed to know how to use to produce a lot of minor stuff.

[ocean musk]

At least 7

[cerulean monolith]

Huh?

[ocean musk]

It’s just supposed to be a joke about you saying “size” and not like a specified unit. It is a stupid joke that I cannot remove from my core personality unfortunately

[cerulean monolith]

Oh. I figured the unit being the mechanic called Size was implied because this is a D&D server

[vestal gust]

But yeah. Other than a few gimmicks and her acting very weird, she just did typical Sorceress stuff. Y'know, backline support, cast spells and all that.

[ocean musk]

That is valid, my brain just skipped that. I think there is actually a definitive answer in the monster guide but my copy is being borrowed so I can’t verify it

[severe rampart]

7 what? apples? bananas?

Tarrasques?

[cerulean monolith]

The MM doesn’t include guidance on younger versions of monsters, no

[severe rampart]

You get an F from me.

[vestal gust]

Also, getting good mileage of her Charisma skills and leaving peeps bewildered at the wild stuff she said.

[severe rampart]

At least Medium

[ocean musk]

Definitely medium at smallest

[vestal gust]

Yea, that would be what I expect, but you can always compare to a real baby elephant.

And get the closest match to size category.

[ocean musk]

I think a wolf and a young mammoth would be about comparable in size

[severe rampart]

an Elephant is "Huge" in D&D

[cerulean monolith]

Likewise for a Mammoth

[severe rampart]

So I'd say a baby mammoth is fine being medium.

If you want it 1:1, then it's small.

Small, because a newborn is 3 feet tall.

[vestal gust]

But yeah. Hope the story so far makes sense? Quirky, Otherwordly but cooperative Fae Bloodline Sorceress who went all in on the otherwordly vibes?

[neat marsh]

Got it

[vestal gust]

But then things took a wild turn when after a difficult quest, we were... Kinda about to be promoted to Champions. Y'know the drill, The Darkness is about to swallow the world, and Brave Champions will need to stop it... The road ahead will be hard... But they will be able to count on their Blessings kind of deal?

[neat marsh]

Yes. Been there lol

[vestal gust]

So we were given a pick of a powerful magical item of our choice AND a class ability from another class. Again, of our choosing.

So that's basically catnip for most players. Full class ability, an edge from another class, AND a Legendary item.

You can imagine what most players would pick.

With EVERYTHING at my fingertips?

Me, I went with Bag of Holding + Jack of All Trades.

Since the bag was Legendary Grade, it came with being way, WAY larger than a normal bag.

[fair summit]

A sack of all trades, one could say

[vestal gust]

You have no idea.

Because Jack of all Trades + Half proficiency everything + my Otherworldly custom background?

I went full item crafter.

Only mundane stuff I could make out of whatever materials I could shove in my bag of holding and a Fabricate spell in some cases.

The party kindof teased me for my suboptimal choices.

Until I pulled a Threadcutter from my bag.

A weapon connected to my background.

I had a +3 Dex and +2 (half) proficiency to use it.

+5 to attack, 2D6+3 (Dex) damage.

Seems pretty underwhelming right? What's the catch?

Can any of you guess?

[severe rampart]

no

there's infinite possibilities

[vestal gust]

Well, Thredcutter in Russian is Vintorez.

Remember my Otherworldly background? Yea, give an Isekai'ed ND gremmlin character a bag of Holding and HALF PROFICIENCY EVERYTHING?

You get a Fae-touched gal pulling a HEAVILY Anachronistic VSS Vintorez.

Half proficiency Gunsmithing. Demolitions. Half proficiency in EVERY crafting and operation proficiency.

Full proficiency in Chemistry and the ability to Fabricate anything chemistry.

AND

A bag of holding that can hold nearly infinite crafting mats AND completed products.

[neat marsh]

I feel like your sorcerery would be more powerful than a rifle though.

[vestal gust]

Sure, USING most of it was half proficiency. But that doesn't matter when you have a suppressed sniper with a range of around half a click against foes that literally have NO concept of what just hit them.

[vestal gust]

Zodiac boat. Dune buggy. Motorcycle. Gyrocopter. Explosives.

Gotta go fast? I've got the right vehicle. Water? No problem! Need Splash Damage? Have some HE rockets!

Quick exit? Smoke grenade.

Need an enemy alive? "Deploying flashbangs!"

[neat marsh]

😂

[vestal gust]

The sheer diversity of stuff and how anachronistic all of it was?

All in a nice Legendary bag.

And don't get me started on Fabricating an autopilot app and using my "slate" (smartphone) to control UAVs.

They were CRUDE UAVs mind. I didn't have the materials for the kind of high precision stuff you have todays. Not in the quantities that mattered.

[humble cairn]

There is a clear limit to both the weight and volume of the Bag of Holding.

[neat marsh]

Legendary item bag of holding. (Homebrew)

[vestal gust]

That bag was the Excalibur of bags.

[humble cairn]

And there is also a specific size of opening, which some things wouldn't fit through, even if under the weight or volume limit.

[humble cairn]

Oh

[vestal gust]

Yeah, that.

[vestal gust]

Yeah, that's the kind of divinely granted artefacts items legends are written about. 😛

[mighty radish]

i've been watching matt colevilles running the game series, I'd like to see him running a one shot or short DnD campaign, though I cant find these on his YT, anyone know where I can watch/listen to him DM a real session?

[vestal gust]

But yeah. Chaotic ND (Which in this version of Our World + D&D Land really IS Faerie related) from our world + Blessings of Broad knowledge + Stupid Grade Bag of Holding = mundane but heavily anachronistic toys.

[neat marsh]

I feel like that’s more of a handy haversack than a bag of holding.

[vestal gust]

The Bag of Holding WAS used to it's basic purpose of pack ratting. Which would be boring were it not for the kind of stuff my weird Fae Bloodline Sorc lugged around in there

[humble cairn]

I had an item somewhat like that, it was a key that when used in any door it would open onto a specific instance of Mordenainen's Magnificent Mansion that was of indefinite duration. So you could store your stuff in there, but there was also stuff already there from previous owners. Also other doors, that maybe led to other doors and owners of other keys?

[vestal gust]

Call it whatever you want, in the end it was "a bag I can load with STUPID amounts of stuff, bypassing the normal limitations of a normal magic item".

[neat marsh]

I know he played with critical role and I believe dm’d a one shot (that wasn’t D&D)

[fluid orchid]

Do we have new eldritch invocations for warlock?

Or any in UA?

[vestal gust]

So yea. That was my silly Bag of Holding story.

[neat marsh]

That was fun. Assuming your dm didn’t strangle you afterwards.

[vestal gust]

Nah. Again, half proficiency use of that stuff meant it was LITERALLY hit or miss.

And the GM really made sure I NEVER forgot it.

But

"No need for MCVs when I am around!" Full on Fae laugh

Oh, and the GM always made damn sure I never forget how darn SQUISHY sorcs are. 😛

[neat marsh]

That’s why I have a tendency to cast jump on myself then polymorph into a t-Rex 🤷‍♂️

[remote wadi]

Managed to get my rangers hands on a great longbow

It'll be fun

[vestal gust]

Let's just say I had a bunch of scatter mishaps.

"Note to self: NEVER AGAIN call a danger close drone strike." Fae Sorceress when she woke up from 0 HP coma."

[agile jungle]

how do i make a character not at level 1

[severe rampart]

DND Beyond? Character Builder

The anvil at the top right.

I've been rolling so many natural 1s

[haughty nimbus]

Is grease worth getting?

I'm finally deciding to put together my alchemist (2014)'s spell list. I feel like i should take it for the funny, but i worry its not as good as i think it is

[severe rampart]

Grease is fun.

It's good, especially synergizing with martials.

but it's a pretty small AOE, etc.

[haughty nimbus]

I'm just trying to figure out which spells i want to prioritize taking. I haven't rolled my stats yet, cause i prefer to do it with someone else there as a moral thing or something, so i'm putting together a list of spells i WANT to take

I know i should take tasha's

for a bit of context. i'm going funny haha poisoner build. the idea behind it is fly on magic broom to allies to coat their weapons in poison (free action from poisoner feat) retreat to backlines and throw a cantrip spell or heal out.

[haughty nimbus]

I've also decided to take homonculous as an infusion because Identify is a touch spell

i think i'm gonna make my homunculos a chicken

[still plover]

Plot what you want with the standard array, then you get a picture of their high and low points.

[haughty nimbus]

good idea

my hero forge model didnt save...

[sturdy tusk]

I've been Checking out Hexbloods
They're genuinely so Horribly Cool

I can rip out Pieces of my Nails or Hair to Give to one of my Friends or Familiar allowing me to Basically have Telephatic Messages and The ability to See and Hear from the Token's Location
It also gives me Disguise Self and Hex which are just Golden

Darkvision + Ancestral Legacy
Sign me Up for a Spellcasting Hexblood

[vast iris]

That's definitely not a weird thing to give your friends

[sturdy tusk]

Or third Casters
-# Arcane Trickster and Eldritch Knights

[sturdy tusk]

Definitely just paint a Face on your Nail, Call it Jeremy and Give it

It will be better then

[haughty nimbus]

yeah i'm currently building one

[sturdy tusk]

Honestly
If My Current PC [Shadow Sorcerer] Dies, Im making a Echo Knight Fighter with this Species

The Lore fits so well with what I thought

[haughty nimbus]

yeah they're really cool

[vast iris]

In my curse of Strad campaign one of my fellow players was playing one, she used to brake Small pieces of her antlers to give to us

But it is always a weird thing to do in my opinion

[haughty nimbus]

thats what i'm doing, exept its more ripping the whole horn off

[sturdy tusk]

Im going to say, Paladins, Artificiers on the Offensive Side, and Third Casters would benefit a lot from them

All because of Hex

[haughty nimbus]

i'm playing mine as an alchemist

[sturdy tusk]

Damn
Why dont you rip a Nail, Paint a Smily Face and Call it Jeremy?
It would be less Weird, and more Friendly :3

[haughty nimbus]

because i like the idea of horrified faces whenever the character decides its shedding season

[sturdy tusk]

-# Though Honestly, my Character Concept for a Hexblood EchoKnight Fighter is absolutely Disgusting
-# Their Echoes are the Rotting Corpses or their Friends, and they're well, Tortured and Brutally Morphed into a Hexblood

-# Thats why they dont speak and always wear Armour
-# Basically Mimikyu in this Sense

[sturdy tusk]

...

Im taking that line

[haughty nimbus]

god, i can not remember how to give my character a hook nose in heroforge

[sturdy tusk]

One more Thing
Echo Knight Fighters ca be Decent in Roleplaying
Instead of Well, Taking turns in SLeeping and Keeping Watch, they can keep watch for you-

Ask Vecna, He's Nice

[vast iris]

The greatest person

Did nothing wrong

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah

He's just a Guy who was cooked by Life
-# Honestly, just break your PC's Nose

-# Bend it
-# Hook Nose

[vast iris]

Nah why brake it when you can cut it

[sturdy tusk]

...
That is Painful

And Sad
Why dont you wear a Fake Nose though

Thats Funnier
Cosplay as a Hag
Fake Hook Nose: Check
Matted Dirty Hair: Check

[vast iris]

I think that hags are the worst out of the 3 potential custom lineages

[sturdy tusk]

Imagine an Elf trying their Best to be a Hexblood but no Hags wanna talk to them😭

[vast iris]

#1 Vampire
#2 Zombie
#3 Hag

[sturdy tusk]

You mean from Dhampir, Reborn and Hexbloods, Hexbloods are the Worst?

...
Ok, I see your point

[vast iris]

Reborn and hexblood are close
But dampir are way ahead

[sturdy tusk]

They're all Goated, Optimization wise though, Dhampirs Amazing

[neat marsh]

Hex is easily better than reborn.

[sturdy tusk]

Especially in Melee
You just get free Healing

[sturdy tusk]

Advantage on Death Saving Throws

[idle oar]

Pssst - we have #optimization if you wanna chat optimization

[sturdy tusk]

No need to Eat, Drink or Sleep

[vast iris]

Exept the optimization part its about the theme

Beeing a vampire is just cool

[sturdy tusk]

Themewise, Dhampirs and Reborns are VERY Powerful
Hexbloods as well but not as good as them

[sturdy tusk]

In Lore I mean

[neat marsh]

There’s tons of ways to get advantage. There’s not tons of ways to give martials a decent concentration spell and scrying/party telepathy

[sturdy tusk]

RP Wise, they're all cool

[sturdy tusk]

I see your Point as well

I would say

[vast iris]

Nothing beats the vampire beeing able to walk on walls 😂

[sturdy tusk]

The Hex and Disguise Self Spells are Very Useful on Wizards, Sorcerers, or Any spellcaster

[sturdy tusk]

Is that Spiderman?
Oh its Biting me, Its a Dhampir

Lowk, Be Spiderman
Dhampir Hungers, can make you Feed on Dreams Instead so Be Spiderman

Rogue Dhampir with maybe Arcane Trickster Subclass?

[vast iris]

How spiderman feeds on dreams?

[sturdy tusk]

You want him to Feed on People?

[neat marsh]

Yes

[sturdy tusk]

...
Thats just Morbid

Why is Peter feeding on People man, thats just sad

[vast iris]

Well it whould be spiderman + venom I guess to eat people

[neat marsh]

He’s a spider..man

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah

Wait a Teamup of a Rogue Dhampir and Barbarian Plasmoid would be Spiderman and Venom

Add in a Warforged trying to Cosplay as a Goblin, and you Got Green Goblin as well

-# Spiderman joined the Villains

[vast iris]

Why a warforged instead of A GOBLIN for green goblin

[neat marsh]

Because green goblin was a guy in armor

[sturdy tusk]

Goblins are 3'11 max

Look at the Green Goblin
He's not 3'11 Minimum

[vast iris]

Maybe a half gobling half orc? For the height boost

[sturdy tusk]

He's also a Guy in Armour
Just a Tall Green Warforged trying to be a Goblin sounds funny

[sturdy tusk]

Oh Hobgoblins

Hobgoblin would work?

[vast iris]

In the comics isn't he an actual green guy?

[vast iris]

I don't think they are green they are yellow if I remember correctly

[late kernel]

Being a DM makes me feel so mean sometimes, haha.

[vast iris]

Or red?

[neat marsh]

Hobgoblin was a different spider man villain

[late kernel]

Killed off the party's favourite NPC last session, they weren't happy.

[sturdy tusk]

Damn

[sturdy tusk]

I dont think so

Norman Osborn is a Human in Green Goblin Suit
Maybe a Fighter?

[vast iris]

That's nothing, try TPK the party and see how it feels

[sturdy tusk]

Thats sad :(

[neat marsh]

He throws bombs and flies on a hoverboard

[vast iris]

Cavalier fighter with the flying thingy as his mount

[late kernel]

Eh, a total party wipe wouldn't be fun.

[sturdy tusk]

Cavalier Fighter Warforged/Human

Which race?

[vast iris]

Some times accidents and extremely low rolls happen

[sturdy tusk]

Human might work Well

[vast iris]

Probably human works best, just have him have some armor on

[late kernel]

A TPK can be fun sure, but then I've gotta give a totally new group of characters a reason to do the same quests and follow on from the same plot threads. I've never gotten the appeal of them personally.

[sturdy tusk]

So thats Green Goblin
Next is Chamele-
Changeling Rogue, Change my Mind

[vast iris]

Well there is no need for them to continue the same plot line

I whould actually say its better to not do that

[late kernel]

Green Goblin could be a Blood Hunter? If we're doing Raimi continuity.

Are we counting the goblin serum as a Mutagen?

[sturdy tusk]

Well
The Armour and Hoverboard

[late kernel]

Armourer Artificer?

[neat marsh]

Clearly he’s a paladin 😂

[vast iris]

Vengence Paladin actually kidna works

[sturdy tusk]

Spiderman: Dhampir, Arcane Trickster Rogue
Venom: Beast Barbarian Plasmoid

[sturdy tusk]

Wait that works
Oathbreaker Actually

Or Conquest?

[sleek cloud]

Actually armorer artificer feels pretty fitting, green goblin is intelligent and crafty and uses gadgets (spells) to wreak havoc

[sturdy tusk]

Oath of Conquest Paladin with Human Race and Perhaps Armourer Artificier Multiclass?

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm

-# So we got, Paladin, FIghter and Armourer Artificier
What do you all think

Which one should Osborn Be?

[neat marsh]

Artificer

He was literally a weapons developer

[vast iris]

Ozy osborn? Definitely a bard 😂

[sturdy tusk]

Spiderman: Dhampir, Arcane Trickster Rogue
Venom: Beast Barbarian Plasmoid
Green Goblin: Human Armourer Artificier

Next is Kraven

[vast iris]

Ranger?

[sturdy tusk]

-# Wait why we taking only Villains

[late kernel]

Kraven is very obviously a monster hunter ranger.

[sturdy tusk]

Gloomstalker would go hard

[vast iris]

Spiderman is a villain?

[sturdy tusk]

I mean

We did Spiderman, Then we only Takig Villains

[neat marsh]

Kraven and venom spent as much time as heroes as villains.

[sturdy tusk]

Anti-Villains*

[vast iris]

True

[sturdy tusk]

Kraven could be a Monster Hunter Ranger with Barbarian Vibes?
Fighter fits better

[vast iris]

What about vulture?

His kind of a mid enemy

[sturdy tusk]

Uhh

He's aarakokra obvi

And Maybe Artillerist Artificier

[neat marsh]

Let’s do something difficult. Sandman

[sturdy tusk]

Genie Warlock

[vast iris]

Earth genashi?

[sturdy tusk]

• Plasmoid, but Sand Edition

[late kernel]

Changeling, with Rune Knight Fighter so he can become large.

[neat marsh]

They don’t have full body transformation

[sturdy tusk]

-# Earth Genasi Exists-

[neat marsh]

Possible

[sturdy tusk]

Earth Genasi Rune Knight Fighter with Unarmed Fighting?

[late kernel]

Eh, but then you lose the shapechanging.

[neat marsh]

Astral self monk/rune knight.

[vast iris]

Problem with earth genashi is they cant change their body

[sturdy tusk]

You could make the Argument for Plasmoids

Like a Brown Plasmoid covered in Sand

Hmm
Monk

Way of the Drunken Master, Astral Self and Elements

One of those

[neat marsh]

Maybe shadow monk if you replaced every instance of shadow with sand for flavor.

[sturdy tusk]

Wait thats honestly Good

Fathomless Warlock and Shadow Monk

[late kernel]

Would Sandman really be a Monk, though?

[sturdy tusk]

Good Point
Fathomless Warlock

You get Tentacles floavoured as sand

[late kernel]

Unarmed fighting style, Rune Knight fighter, changeling race.

[sturdy tusk]

Plasmoid's Better lorewise

Honestly
Flavour Fathomless Water stuff as Sand and you get a Pretty matching character

The Tentacles, the Guardian Coil and the Plunge Capstone could be flavored as Beaches than Pools

Would Barbarian Work?

I mean Giant Barbarian
Plasmoid Giant Barbarian

[barren pagoda]

Can someone help me with some lore? I’m really lost with whether souls are a common bargain item in Warlock pacts, fiend or otherwise. Is it more of an old thing or just fiend or even fey thing?

Often I’ll see arch hag take someone’s soul while other times fiends use souls?

[sleek cloud]

Reflavored plasmoid makes sense for sandman

[sturdy tusk]

Its not exactly a Common Bargain
Fiends are well, they make sense

ArchHag might take your Child, Your Beauty, Or Curse You for that Power

[sturdy tusk]

Ikr?

[barren pagoda]

But not soul? So soul is something only fiends want? And is it like typical fiendlock or even therr it’s abnormal?

[sturdy tusk]

I would say Depends
I would see Hexblade and Fiends take your Soul or an Important Object

Archfey are Mischeivous but not inherently Evil
Fathomless are even Said to be Gods who wish to Explore the Lands using you not taking much

GOOLock takes your Sanity/jk

[haughty nimbus]

i can not make a good name

[sleek cloud]

Souls are mostly common for fiends because it’s almost like a currency in the hells. Hags that aren’t in the hells tend to want something more beneficial to them directly, hence the child,beauty, or cursing for power statement. They might have use for souls as well but they’re often asking for things for much more selfish use

[sturdy tusk]

Nylla's a Good Name

[barren pagoda]

I see so the soul thing is basically not really a thing anymore

[haughty nimbus]

The only thing coming to mind is agatha, and that feels way too gendered

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah

[haughty nimbus]

for my dnd character

[sturdy tusk]

Ik
Nylla
Scylla

[sleek cloud]

Don Geon Endragons

[sturdy tusk]

Cool Names

[haughty nimbus]

Scylla might work-

[sturdy tusk]

"ROW FOR YOUR LIVES-Drown in your Sorrows and Fears"

[barren pagoda]

No one take “Maxdflayer”, it’s mine

[sleek cloud]

What species/class nylla

[haughty nimbus]

Hexblood alchemist. I need somethign witchy

Salem is a hard pass

[neat marsh]

Selinnae

[sleek cloud]

Seraphina Nethershade

[sturdy tusk]

Hear me out
Buck Fullerene

[sturdy tusk]

Fire

[neat marsh]

Buck Fullsend