dnd-discussion

[viral kraken]

magic

[umbral girder]

Magic.

[woven flint]

"I'm gonna use wish to become a fighter instead of reviving my party!"

[mystic crystal]

Magic

[undone rain]

Only??😭

[frank sluice]

Wait this a boss or a PC I'm confused

[empty thicket]

Boss

[empty thicket]

okey bro, sorry for having fun in my way. 🥀

[severe rampart]

It's on par with one of the slowest speedsters (A-Train) from the boys' top speed

[umbral girder]

if its a boss why not just bring more allies?

[undone rain]

Still insane for dnd atleast

[umbral girder]

Like a few shield guardians for half damage and a big AC boost

[severe rampart]

well on the next turn you'll suffer lethargy if haste ends, and then you can't double your speed with tabaxi agaiun until you move 0ft one turn

[frank sluice]

I mean I guess a phase 2 where he has martial abilties works. You could go the gish or spellblade route

[empty thicket]

in theory that would happen in the final final fight, all burned out, a last shot

[woven flint]

I'm just saying
Becoming a fighter greatly decreases a wizards power.. because they don't havs a wizards power

You're describing someone wishing away MAGICAL PROWESS to be good with a sword or something.
Sorry if that logic doesn't track for me 😭

[normal junco]

recharging zoomies

[severe rampart]

you can use all of that movement to go around the enemy over and over and over again

[frank sluice]

Why the extra steps why not multiclass

[undone rain]

True but i dont think youd even need to move after that, it would take everyone else several several rounds to even reach that

[woven flint]

"Oh! Now the parties lost significant resources, let me bring my friends back!"

[umbral girder]

Also doing that wish would set their strength score to 3.

[reef tundra]

Could try having the second phase be a super powered rage, to justify why Spellcasting isn’t used in the second phase

[umbral girder]

Very bad to wish to be a Fighter with a strength of 3.

[empty thicket]

In fact,i understand your point.
In another, its a second phase of some giga hard fight.

[reef tundra]

As for power, if they have the NPC treatment, you could easily make the second phase stronger

[woven flint]

I'm saying
It'd be giga hard if he..
Brought his friends back

[umbral girder]

Using silly wishes isn't going to make a fight harder in dnd.

Action economy is usually what makes things a lot harder.

[woven flint]

^^^

[frank sluice]

A single boss will get melted without mobs

It's always a bad time

[undone rain]

Fracncos simply havin fun is all do you guys have to be so harsh

[empty thicket]

YEp.

[severe rampart]

Surprisingly, EB only has a range of 1,200ft at the very most, so, yeah, probably

[empty thicket]

But its okey, one cant do whatever it want. sorry.

[umbral girder]

Like a Death Knight Aspirant is a stupid easy fight for a level 16 party.
But when I threw 3 of them at that party things got super deadly for them

[woven flint]

I'm not intentionally being harsh, but it's just... ???
Why would a wizard give up their magic?

[frank sluice]

No. Its just some of us are confused. We want to know why they want to do stuff.

[empty thicket]

In other way, i got a lvl up to 8 in my last session. Got an ASI and finally got something who give me reaction, Sentinel.

[frank sluice]

Other than that they have absolute authority in their game to do as they see fit

My opinion is absolutely worthless

[woven flint]

Alternatively: "I wish to have the knowledge of Bladesong bestowed upon me!"

You're still a wizard and can do martial stuff :]

[undone rain]

All this talk of that speed however makes me want to play a tabaxi, altough it would probably be a rogue

[empty thicket]

Na, any opinion is okey if its with good intention.

[severe rampart]

it'll still be fast, bonus action dash

[undone rain]

Oh yeah

[umbral girder]

Or just not use wish. cast Shapechange

Gives you tons of Temp HP, the stats of a creature, and keep your spellcasting.

[woven flint]

Or just make them a bladesinger from the start because using wish would just give them Wish Sickness as a fighter because they used wish outside of recreating a spell

[undone rain]

Ive had em in mind for a few weeks just havent been able to use it

[undone rain]

Now thats smth ive never heard of

Wish sickness

[empty thicket]

wish sickness?

oh yeah, wish is giga powerfull but have that downside

[woven flint]

Yeah, if you use Wish outside of recreating a spell.
Ya get wish sickness.

[empty thicket]

oh and you can have a chance of NEVER be able to use wish again

[umbral girder]

Yeah if you make any Wish that is not an 8th level spell it causes Wish Sickness

[undone rain]

So what happens when you get that

What does it do

[frank sluice]

Str 3 along with a 33% chance for no wishes ever

[umbral girder]

3 strength, 1/3 of a chance to never wish again, and any spell you cast now does 1d10xSpell Level Necrotic damage that cannot be reduced in any way

[woven flint]

You're strength drops to like
3 and you take Necrotic damsge eacg time you cast a spell.

[undone rain]

Oh wow

[umbral girder]

It lasts 2d4 days too.

And of course any downside you get from doing a bad Wish

[empty thicket]

oh and you receive necrotic damage for any further spell you do and each lvl of it

[woven flint]

So wishing to become a Fighter would give the Wizard a significant weakness to exploit....
3 strength.

[umbral girder]

So a fireball also does 3d10 damage to the caster for example.

[empty thicket]

Toki, got it.
Drop it please.

Move forward. Thanks.

[frank sluice]

Uh

[undone rain]

Okay so make sure to use wish on an 8th level

[woven flint]

Sorry 😭

[undone rain]

Got it

[lethal otter]

Greetings yall. how ye

[woven flint]

8th level or lower

It's not specifically 8th level spells

[frank sluice]

I didn't sleep at all how about you m8

[umbral girder]

It would be way easier to cast Shapechange into a fighter of the same CR.

[empty thicket]

im surprised you can only get 25k gp

[undone rain]

Altough i dont play lotta casters outside of clerics or halfcasters, its the squishy hp they got that really turns it off for me

[umbral girder]

Then you get spellcasting + the cool new stuff and a ton of HP

[woven flint]

Get mad money

[frank sluice]

Using wish for the regular gold amount is absolute hot trash. Who does that

[lethal otter]

I am alright, came home from school. Tho i am suposed to be studying french

[woven flint]

Broke individuals 🧐

[empty thicket]

Me with a gambling addiction after losing everything for betting to the red Welp, we go for the second round?

[umbral girder]

Also yeah 25K for wish is so silly since you make half a million gold per session by the time you get that spell

Not unless its a magic item.

[woven flint]

Aka, Wizards

[undone rain]

But what does divine intervention do

[empty thicket]

One need money for his wizard components tho

[umbral girder]

10th level recreate any cleric spell of 5th level or lower
20th level you cast Wish without using a slot.

[empty thicket]

you think that bat poop and sulfur is cheap?¿

[woven flint]

Which is why I think Cleric is the strongest class in 2024 🧐

[umbral girder]

Yep its pretty good.

[empty thicket]

One of the strongest casters, yeah

[frank sluice]

Nah my wizard is a millionaire because the DM made a mistake three years ago. He doesn't need chump change

[umbral girder]

Sure the wish has like a week recharge

[lethal otter]

I also have some cool personal new. Within local dnd organization i have gotten a recomendation to becoume a writer

[woven flint]

But the fun thing is...
Wish ignores casting times!

[uncut zenith]

Cleric has always been one of the better classes in 5E imo just based on their versatility, but the 2024 cleric really solidified it as an S-tier class in my book

[empty thicket]

The kingdom seeing how the broke wizard is now a millionarie wizard and ask him to justify from where he got that money:

[lethal otter]

Yeey

[woven flint]

Broke Ass Wizards Anonymous coming to bust down his door

BAWA for short

[undone rain]

Daaaaaaamn. Cool

[frank sluice]

I am the kingdom. Everyone will accept democracy as I hurl adamantine rods down from low orbit in realmspace

[woven flint]

I had a Cleric who mogged almost every fight he was in 😎
Nealen knows him well

[umbral girder]

Only issue for cleric I have is their movement speed and how their versatility is subclass locked.

[undone rain]

I love clerics

[frank sluice]

Unrelated I know ravenous void is hot ass but I wish it wasn't locked to dunanancy. Meh nothing a little DM magic can't fix

[woven flint]

That is true
Clerics are probably the slowest class in the game because of lack of movement abilities/spells
It's a sad day 😔

[frank sluice]

It's okay clerics have the ultimate war crime to make up for being slow

The spell which defined my campaign for years

[vagrant quartz]

@woven flint heya

[frank sluice]

Forbiddance

[woven flint]

Uh..
Hi

[umbral girder]

Yeah its called a Spell scroll

[vagrant quartz]

You have forgotten about me, but I have not

I shall now haunt you

Anyways

[woven flint]

Who are you again?

[vagrant quartz]

Another freaky person

[woven flint]

Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

[frank sluice]

I never had the opportunity to get ahold of one to copy and my DM for some reason thought it was OP

Like c'mon I'm rolling around with meteor swarm

[vagrant quartz]

Nope, uuuh we talked about bards ig

I complimented your pfp ig

[woven flint]

...
Do you have any ide-

[frank sluice]

We can all be besties. I am just so absolutely wholesome.

It's true

[woven flint]

I'm just joking, by the way, I remember you.

The Tokii does not forget

I just love gaslighting :]

[cursive fjord]

So is the New Artificer any different than the old Artificer?

[undone rain]

Tokii king of gaslighting

[frank sluice]

My PC moved stuff in a random peasants house for years around for no reason to see what would happen

He's now an essential NPC

Gaslighting is peak

[cursive fjord]

I'm struggling to find any major differences between the 2

[uncut zenith]

There weren’t a lot of major changes between old artificer and new, but that’s mostly because the old artificer didn’t need a whole lot of changing to work with the 2024 ruleset

[valid geyser]

i wish it had short rest abilities

2024 gave more classes short rest abilities, but not artificers

[uncut zenith]

Most of the changes to the base class are QOL, and the more significant changes are in the subclasses

[valid geyser]

i would say 2024 artificer is rather different though. Its changes to spell storing item mean that a subclass is way better based on what 3rd level spells it gets, its an interesting way of balance

also magic item tinker and the general ability to make mundane items is useful

[glad ferry]

Just circle cast lvl9 meteor storm with 4 other spell casters and then use extended magic so that the fire stays

[uncut zenith]

It also lost a few unique infusions and turned them into magic items instead, but I don’t really mind that

[valid geyser]

yeah my complaints with how infusions are changed are nitpicks at best

doesnt effect my enjoyment of the game in any real way

[cursive fjord]

I have an idea for a character but I'm not sure there is any class that does the way I really want it to be done.

[crimson gulch]

i have had great feedback from all my players trying the new artificer

[uncut zenith]

We have one in my weird west campaign who updated a previously played 2014 Artificer to a 2024 one and they say they’re having way more fun with it

[crimson gulch]

the QOL change on the eldrich cannon is huge

[reef tundra]

The new artificer has calmed my rage for it

[reef tundra]

Not because of any specific changes it’s had, it’s just that I now finally understand it and its capabilities

[valid geyser]

i wish they changed it to be longer than an hour. It makes the subclass kinda anti-short rest

[uncut zenith]

Yeah there are a lot of seemingly minor changes that are actually pretty big in play

[rough basalt]

one thing off my tabletop workload is finished

[pliant sapphire]

The alchemist buff is pretty good too

[reef tundra]

I like the new alchemist

[uncut zenith]

I’m excited to see the new Reanimator subclass

[rough basalt]

Me too

[pliant sapphire]

The potions scales with lvl 😻

[rough basalt]

I got my Ravenloft bundle preordered yesterday

[reef tundra]

I am honestly very grateful for the alchemist and cartographer, as they’re the most friendly subclasses to standard medieval fantasy settings without needing Reflavouring

[crimson gulch]

ahh im so hype for the New Ravenloft book, got a one shot booked and am going to slot in parts of it into my current curse of strahd game

[uncut zenith]

They missed the opportunity to make a Frankenstein subclass in VRGTR, so I’m glad to see it coming in the new Ravenloft book

[rough basalt]

With my horror game starting soon im looking forward to a fresh new book to use for it

[tawdry sentinel]

Next month is it?

[rough basalt]

ye

[tawdry sentinel]

Hopefully be able to get one with a fancy cover.

[reef tundra]

I cannot wait for it

I can finally learn stuff about the shadowfell!

[rough basalt]

well its the domains not so much the shadowfell itself

Its like Florida, sure you'll learn a bit about America there but not nearly the whole package.

[uncut zenith]

My one hope for the new Ravenloft book is that it’s more than just a supplement to VRGTR, like Forge of the Artificer was to Rising from the Last War

I don’t need it to start from scratch, I just don’t want it to be full of “refer to VRGTR”

[mystic crystal]

I want a updated necromancer class

[uncut zenith]

I just think it’s poor business practice to sell a book that doesn’t work unless another book already

[uncut zenith]

I may be wrong, but I think there’s one currently in UA

[glad ferry]

I love the shadowfell

[mystic crystal]

I could be wrong but I’m not sure i see it when I was going though UA

[uncut zenith]

It’s in the Arcane Subclasses UA

[paper cedar]

Is this dimension perhaps inhabited by any other people besides the Shadar-Kai?

[mystic crystal]

Oh that would explain how I missed it

Thanks

[uncut zenith]

You’d guess it would be in one of the horror or villainous UAs, but I guess they want all the oncoming wizard subs to show up in the Arcana Unearthed book

So they bundled it into the Arcane Subclasses (which was kind of a teaser for the Arcana Unearthed book) instead

[rough basalt]

Think it's supposed to be around 300 pages

[uncut zenith]

I can get behind that

[rough basalt]

I think in general if there's gonna be any "refer to" it'll probably be Barovia and Strahd.

Cause he needs to stop hogging space

Him and his land of people you shouldn't save.

[glad ferry]

Theres people who walk into by accident and never leave. All those who follow raven queen among some others. Its the darkside of the fey realm yet mirrors the realms land just twisting it a bit

[glad ferry]

Its evolution through the editions is quite interesting

[paper cedar]

interesting

[woven flint]

You know
I've been growing to enjoy ranger a bit more 🧐

[glad ferry]

Ranger is a good class reguardless of how people talk it down. It has a lot of good uses

[woven flint]

People weren't joking when they said Bugbear Gloomstalkers went crazy 💀

[glad ferry]

One aspect of ranger when you huntet mark something it let's you known it's weaknesses

Never seen a bugbear gloomstalker

[woven flint]

My Gloomstalker wiped out 8 devils last night and I've never felt so alive lmao

[uncut zenith]

Makes sense. When it comes to Barovia and Strahd, VRGTR has a decent amount of “refer to CoS for more info”. By the looks of it though, the Strahd preview page on new Ravenloft looks like it’s full, so it may not redirect much to older books after all.

[woven flint]

Given, they were Bearded and Spiked Devils, but they didn't stand a chance

[humble cairn]

Yess!

[woven flint]

I JUST got extra attack last session as well, so it was heavenly

[reef tundra]

Welcome to the good side!

[humble cairn]

Ranger is awesome!

[woven flint]

Bugbear Gloomstalker with a weapon of Warning and a +8 Initiative is like having a ballistic missile sent at you

[rough basalt]

Yeah iirc someone said there's supposed to be a good info for each dreadlord

[paper cedar]

One class I used to be prejudiced against but learned to like was wizard, and today it's my favorite.

[glad ferry]

Plus rangers favorite enemy and favorite terrain is nice

[rough basalt]

Rather than "here's what they did, here's a generic statblock to apply to them"

[paper cedar]

Metamagic mechanics are capable of working miracles if used correctly.

[reef tundra]

I say it before and I say it again, every class is peak, and every class is someone’s favourite, be kind

[glad ferry]

Just dont use your metamagic like good old Mr tibs

[uncut zenith]

I think I’ve seen previews that show Strahd and Cthulhu and both looked like they each had at least a full page

[woven flint]

On the down side, Devils are gonna want my ass dead and I only have a +1 Con Modifier 😔

[rough basalt]

Yeah I'm looking forward to it

[glad ferry]

Just ups the anti tokii

[empty thicket]

Yep, ranger is okey. Like rogue

But i totally understand people grudges with them

[frank sluice]

Even gunslinger?

[woven flint]

Eh, they're gonna have a pretty hard time killing the ultimate sniper 😎

[glad ferry]

I liked Matt mercer version of gunslinger with weapons being able to misfire

[woven flint]

I don't like things that make a class inherently troublesome to play, admittedly

[uncut zenith]

I’m not a fan of a lot of Mercer’s homebrew personally, but that’s mostly cuz I don’t like malus design. That said, hats off to him for designing things based on what his players enjoy

[reef tundra]

Holy hell, someone else who likes it

[glad ferry]

Would i personally use gunslinger no

[woven flint]

Steady Aim and Reckless Attack are a little rough respectively, but at least they give a benefit that offsets the deficit.

[glad ferry]

I like the usual classes without the guns

[frank sluice]

My DM straight up told me just play reflavored fighter with a crossbow reflavored as a gun.

[reef tundra]

Mercer brew is surprisingly very fun with casual play. Despite their weaknesses and drawbacks, I just find them very very enjoyable

[frank sluice]

Id like to try it at some point but tbh I only get to play twice a month

[glad ferry]

I think Matt did pretty good balance with drawbacks and advantages

[frank sluice]

Not gonna happen unfortunately

I have to stick with my wizard until next campaign

[humble cairn]

Battle Master is kind of a better designed Gunslinger anyway, imo.

[woven flint]

I don't think so, personally.
Mercer's brews are balance nightmares from my understanding
Weak as hell or strong as hell

No inbetween

Ofc, he's not a game designer so, you can't really give him too much crap

[uncut zenith]

I don’t like Mercer’s homebrew, but I don’t knock him for designing it the way he does either. He designs what he and his players want to play, not necessarily for the general public. They’re only available on DDB for partnership reasons and because the fanbase wants them

[reef tundra]

I respect that opinion.
But I’ve just never seen much trouble from it at the table

[humble cairn]

Not that Battle Master is a gunslinger, more like it can be a gunslinger, and one that works better than the Gunslinger subclass.

[frank sluice]

Blood hunter can be decent but there's too much to keep track of.

I enjoyed playing it tho

[reef tundra]

I love it

[glad ferry]

Dual wield crossbow with action surge

[reef tundra]

Also it’s just great to have more martial classes at my tables. Hopefully once I finish my Metamorpher class, my tables will have 6 to choose from

Maybe one day I’ll learn and allow pugilist to make it 7

I just need to find where to get pugilist first

[woven flint]

I've played Pugilist
It's fun :]

[reef tundra]

Where hast you found it from

Give me answers, you goofy king

[woven flint]

There should be a post in announcements somewhere

[reef tundra]

It’s partnered content?!?!

[woven flint]

.. yeah?

[reef tundra]

I thought it was homebrew

[woven flint]

Its still homebrew yeah, but its partnered content

[rough basalt]

I'd never allow it personally

[woven flint]

Partnered doesn't necessarily mean official

[uncut zenith]

All partnered content is homebrew, but not all homebrew is partnered content

[frank sluice]

Id like to try pugilist but I don't have a second game to join and with what I've heard idk about playing it for my DM's second campaign

[rough basalt]

Just seems like trying to be Monk but a lot better

[woven flint]

As someone who's play a lot of Monk
I feel Pugilist is dragged down a bit by its lack of speed increases

[uncut zenith]

I wouldn’t say better, but yeah it’s mostly a STR based monk instead of DEX

[rough basalt]

The auto max damage on attacks probably makes up for that dont it?

[woven flint]

I like Pugilist, but it has plenty of weak points

[uncut zenith]

Who uses Moxie instead of Focus

[frank sluice]

I heard its survivability is an issue but that's only secondhand info

[reef tundra]

To announcements I will go

[woven flint]

You have to call it before hitting and if you miss, you just use a Moxie point for nothing

[rough basalt]

Ah i thought it was just automatic on each hits for free

[empty thicket]

It isnt that kinda the point?
A change of monk that is mobile to a more sturdy and tough thing?

[woven flint]

Its good if you can ensure advantage, but calling it all the time definitely isn't the strat lol

[rough basalt]

Yeah i was told that the design intent felt very much like a Monk player angry he wasn't the isekai op mc

[woven flint]

My Pugilist is a Dog & Hound Pugilist.
Their Dog has a reaction it can use to give you advantage on an attack once per turn (also adds 3d4 damage)

[rough basalt]

and that Haymaker was just a free passive

[woven flint]

Its definitely not free for certain lol
Its only free if you land the hit because it doesn't spend the Moxie point

[rough basalt]

So it could definitely be exploited with MCing and stuff, but the base thing itself isnt

[woven flint]

But, it's also definitely a good way to drain resources as you have less points than monk does
If you're Haymakering every attack you have potential to burn through everything

[rough basalt]

You probably get them all back on SR tho right?

[woven flint]

I only do it around once per turn, but even then, not that often, only during boss fights and such lol

[woven flint]

That's true, but your pool is very easy to run through in combat

Bloodied but Unbowed exists as well though

Gives you all your Moxie back and Temp HP as a reaction to getting bloodied

[rough basalt]

Ye if i allowed it i probably wouldnt allow mcing with it

[woven flint]

Frankly? It doesn't need multiclassing anyway
Its solid on its own

They even have a Pseudo Rage mechanic

Dig Deep gives you BPS resist :]

[lost root]

update: thesis successfully defended and accepted

[rough basalt]

Ye kinda sounds like its good im never getting Valdas

[minor cargo]

Oh, what was your thesis on? 👀

[robust zephyr]

hey guys! i just joined this server because dnd is a big passion of mine, but it’s getting harder and harder to find/schedule irl games where i live. i heard this server was a good place to find online games? ive never tried them though so i dont really know how it works

[frank sluice]

#looking-for-players

[woven flint]

It may sound strong, but, I'll keep it a buck
Its like any other martial and has the typical "I need to melee" martial weaknesses.
Haymaker also only works on unarmed strikes from my understanding
There have been times where i Struggle a bit, but, it's also just ... not really overpowered
A lot of things are once per short rest then come with a cost if you wanna use it again
Dig Deep giving exhaustion levels after the first free use for example.

[robust zephyr]

thanks!!

[uncut zenith]

Yep! We do have a #find-a-game section that’s designed for setting up or joining campaigns

[rough basalt]

Exhaustion levels? Thats good

[woven flint]

Dig Deep allows you to ignore the effects of exhaustion, but like, not having exhaustion levels lol

[lost root]

Celestial, Fiends, and Undead: Revisiting Dungeons and Dragons as Youth and Young Adult Ministry
The last time the Christian church interacted with TTRPGs, we got the Satanic Panic. I wanted to force the church to look again at the value and usefulness of D&D as a form of community building, storytelling, and forming connections among youth and young adults, especially given its explosion in popularity in the last decade.

[woven flint]

Dig deep also lasts.. 10 Minutes

[rough basalt]

Ah never mind

[woven flint]

I mean, you're still reduced to a slug outside of combat if you use it often enough lol

[inner silo]

So you can have exhaustion levels but not suffer any negative effects?

[woven flint]

Only when Dig Deep is activated, but it won't stop you from dying if you're max exhaustion and gain exhaustion from an effect

[inner silo]

I see

What's dig deep btw?

[woven flint]

You can still die from it, it's just a temporary respite otherwise

[rough basalt]

Rage

[empty thicket]

Temu rage

[inner silo]

What gives that ability?

[woven flint]

Its like Rage without the damage boost at early levels
Just the defensive stuff

[empty thicket]

Resistance to Bludgeon, piercing and Slashing damages

So yeah, temu rage

[rough basalt]

The intent is to be better than barb and monks combined and seems like it to me

[inner silo]

I mean, where do you get that ability from

[empty thicket]

Cant wait for a dhampir pugilist, The Temu vampire with the temu rage

[inner silo]

It's a pugilist ability?

[rough basalt]

from the barbarian feature page, they copied it over and removed the damage bonus

[empty thicket]

which thing?

[woven flint]

I wouldn't say so, personally

It's tanky, but as i said, prefers only using fist and is dreadfully slow

[reef tundra]

The satanic panic about dnd is really funny to me, because the maker was literally Christian and demons and devils were not glorified at all, and were always villains in dnd

[empty thicket]

the dig deep? yeah

[inner silo]

Dig deep

[inner silo]

Ah okj

[reef tundra]

The panic was the church hurting themselves in their confusion about what dnd even is

[rough basalt]

People don't really use their brains, they just react, that's not a post-internet era only thing lol

[woven flint]

And demons and devils STILL aren't glorified in

[empty thicket]

its one of the features it have, for what im reading is okey and work in a way i like it.
While monk is more mobile and dodge a lot more
Pugilist would be a parallel of that , instead of dodging he would resist and use T.hp and other stuff

[frank sluice]

They had a period like that in the 90s for Magic too.

[rough basalt]

I might have to see it in action but to me it just sounds like typical overtuned third party

[frank sluice]

Wdym Orcus is my homie

He's such a good person

[rough basalt]

Video games kinda came in to replace the satanic panic as the 90s/2000s went on

[woven flint]

And Baphomet is my lover /joking
Doesn't mean he isn't a bad personb

[empty thicket]

"Doom is satanic" Sir, we are killing demons. Isnt that good enough?

[inner silo]

Interesting. So pugilist is essential strength monk?

[empty thicket]

sort of

[rough basalt]

strength monk with barbarian durability, and potentially rogue damage from what I'm reading

[frank sluice]

Broski wants to end all life ever. Peak goals.

[woven flint]

As I said
You gotta just see it in play

[inner silo]

I'm not very knowledgeable about christianity, but as far as i know, under their rules, any depictions of heaven, hell or god that aren't in the bible are not very appreciated

[inner silo]

Sounds a little broken

Ig that's what we do to make strength balanced with dex

[empty thicket]

Yep. But i wont deep on it too much, there will be someone always pointing out dumb stuff and its okey

[reef tundra]

I fw Yeenoghu. I too get hungry and destroy everything

[empty thicket]

But going back to the pugilist, i find it okey that such thing exist

[rough basalt]

Probably, but for now just seems overtuned at least to me

[empty thicket]

I expected it to be a monk subclass but i guess that being a whole class is good

[inner silo]

I like any strength representation

[empty thicket]

We are going to still wait for a gish Sorcerer subclass so...

[wind dawn]

Good morning

[rough basalt]

I don't particularly like "he just does what I do, but better" design

[inner silo]

Is there a warlock one?

[uncut zenith]

RIP Mystic

[rough basalt]

Yeah thankfully

The King of All Trades class

[empty thicket]

warlock, wizard, artificer, druid, cleric

[woven flint]

Oh
The free Dig Deep is once per long rest, not short rest

[inner silo]

What's the warlock one?

[severe rampart]

Hexblade

[inner silo]

Illriger?

[hollow stone]

is there a species feature for short rest?

[inner silo]

Ah, right

[woven flint]

So every subsequent time you wanna use it.. Exhaustion

[rough basalt]

Nice, its what they get

Shouldnt be trying to take over Monk and Barbs spot in the game

[empty thicket]

There is none of sorc.
But im going to say that something like that with barbarian

[inner silo]

Playing a monk with strength and not having to actually monk with strength stats sounds pretty good imo though

[woven flint]

Sora, I must admit, I think you're heavily overestimating its strength 😭

[severe rampart]

Need some advice, it's nothing serious though, a player of mine has "The Haunted One" background and they feel like with their social interactions they don't really get much value from it because, well, it's Barovia and everyone is a little haunted

[inner silo]

There's wild magic barb and sorc, so that's the closest we have ig

[woven flint]

And as I said, usually comes down to dig deep

"Now you've got exhaustion! But you can use me to ignore exhaustion.. but you gain another level!!!!"

[rough basalt]

And i believe its best if they use it 6 times a day, so we can roll a new pc

[inner silo]

You get another level when you use it?

[empty thicket]

yeah but isnt Wild magic like they have real access to spells.
Eldritch knight exist, arcane trickster
Almost all the casters have access to an hybrid option

[woven flint]

Put a Pugilist in a survival game and their ass ain't making it

[rough basalt]

Thats probably how its balanced

[inner silo]

Yes true. But barbs overall can't use spells when raging, it would be too unbalanced otherwise

[woven flint]

Yeah, Pugilists is the Urban Survival class
Urban Survival is typically fighting better lol

But in the wilds?
They're screwed

[inner silo]

Tbh almost every class except barb and sorcerer has options to do martial snd casting stuff depending on the subclass

[rough basalt]

P2W feats and spells being added to ddb

[hollow stone]

they're like the inverse of 2014 Ranger, which was all survival and... less than decent but generally slightly viable combat, pugilist is pretty cool combat and very little survival options

[inner silo]

What's ddb?

[robust zephyr]

backgrounds at the end of the day are just a general idea of a character’s origin. even two characters with the same background could have completely different backstories, so it’s less about the haunted one background and more about the characters’ past. for example when i was playing curse of strahd, my character was looking for a missing relative, which some of the NPCs knew and that lead to unique social interactions due to my character’s backstory

[rough basalt]

dnd beyond

[inner silo]

Ah i see

[uncut zenith]

I’m not saying Pugilist shouldn’t exist, it’s a fantasy a lot of people want. I just don’t think it’s different enough from Monk that it requires its own class as opposed to just finding a DM who lets you use STR instead of DEX as your primary stat

[rough basalt]

theyre starting to add character options to the sub, thatll probably be powerful to entice subs

[uncut zenith]

If anything, the subclasses are the things that distinguish Pugilist from Monk the most

[woven flint]

Pugilist are for people like me that want to play a viable unarmed barbarian without multiclassing lol

[severe rampart]

Yeah I got that, he got the thing "the monster killed everyone but spared you", etc., still, he's feeling like the background is a little misleading, not to mention since it's a 2014 background he doesn't get the stat benefits

[inner silo]

Problem is dex gives monks their ac. A strength monk will be weak purely because strength is weak, unless you're playing rolled stats and roll 4 very high numbers

[onyx sluice]

Strength is an under used stat that needs more love

[inner silo]

Completely true

[uncut zenith]

True, but making STR their primary stat doesn’t mean they have to dump DEX either. Would make the character a bit more MAD tho

[woven flint]

I'd still prefer playing Monk over a Pugilist myself even though I've been Devils Advocating Pugilist

[inner silo]

They need strength, dex, wisdom snd constitution then

[woven flint]

Though, I love my boy Sentry
Just a Robot and his Doggo

[rough basalt]

Idk ill probably never allow a third party class i dont own

[inner silo]

They'll either have low ac and dc to their sbilities OR low hp and bad con saves

[empty thicket]

Yep, i will think of both of those classes being like "limited"

[robust zephyr]

what’s the monster? even if you’re running a module it could definitely fit in somewhere in the story, especially something like curse of strahd. if it’s some sort of cunning creature that disguises itself as a humanoid for example, maybe this character is the only one who can recognize it since they’ve seen it before

[rough basalt]

Tho if they start making all content exclusive to the ddb sub like theyre starting with this new drops i might have to

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah, he decided it was a "Thessalhydra", but I'll buff it up if he survives and wants to kill it in an epilogue

[woven flint]

Pugilist does get that
Low AC
their AC is 12 + Con
Which isnt that bad...
Until you realize it normally maxes out at 17.

[hollow stone]

i mean, STR is a weird stat because of how much and yet how little it controls, like it has your carrying capacity and Athletics tied to it, which is climbing, jumping, swimming, and many such other things, but also at nearly every opportunity sensible it's replaced with DEX

[inner silo]

Eh. Imo not every caster needs a great martial option, or a martial an option with spells

[hollow stone]

oh and hitting things with weapons

[severe rampart]

Oh my god, your AC and your Con Mod being the same? Pugilist is insane

[woven flint]

Though, Pugilists are JUST tanky enough not to need crazy AC

My Pugilist is insane

He's also immune to Crits :]

[glad ferry]

Negative ac anxiety con mods for the win

[onyx sluice]

A lot of niche situations which can also be solved with various tools and equipment.

[humble cairn]

I mean any Warlock can use Pact of the Blade and associated invocations to be a gish.

[robust zephyr]

as a player it feels a little shitty to have the main feature of your backstory only feature in the epilogue. it gives less of a reason for your player to be fully invested in the main story. i haven’t checked the lore on tessalhydra specifically, but like maybe it’s one of strahd’s minions or something, and that would give your player a good reason to want to defeat him

[inner silo]

Ah right, especially now

[empty thicket]

i mean, barbarian is like the most "closeted" martial and sorc almost same in caster

[uncut zenith]

I will say, I do want to try out the Piss and Vinegar Pugilist some day

[hollow stone]

Hexblade is probably the closest just for the medium armor prof, right?

[reef tundra]

The WHAT

[uncut zenith]

Most of the tables I’ve played at don’t really care for homebrew/third party stuff tho

[severe rampart]

I know, that's why I need some help to make the background more appealing to them

[woven flint]

You'll never have as much AC As a Monk or a Barbarian, but you still benefit greatly from the same ac boosting items they do

[humble cairn]

It's an old timey phrase that means being tough.

[empty thicket]

while other classes are more felxible, like wizard or fighter, There must be one that isnt too much

[woven flint]

Piss & Vinegar
It's like the mean old drunkard at thd bar that taunts you

[severe rampart]

17 AC isn't that bad at that even

[inner silo]

I feel like barbarian is a very specific fantasy, and sorcerers have a bunch of subclasses for very different options, though getting a more tanky one like an abjuration wizard could be cool

[rough basalt]

I just worry about players ending up way too powerful at something another player is meant to do officially cause Third Party often aims to replace classes the creator didnt like

[humble cairn]

Tough and mean.

[woven flint]

At lower levels.

[uncut zenith]

They have a subclass called Piss and Vinegar. It’s named after an old phrase for people who are tough and jerks who tease their opponent to piss them off.

[reef tundra]

I am still looking for more homebrew classes of the right quality to get some new blood in my games

[severe rampart]

Yeah, at higher levels you'll get magic items sorted out and your high con lets you take a few more hits

[hollow stone]

i will say tho, when i run a gish warlock i just make my first level in Fighter so i get every armor and weapon to maximize Pact of The Blade value

[humble cairn]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of Pugilist basically for that reason.

[woven flint]

Dog & Hound
Squared Circle
And
Piss & Vinegar
were all heavy contenders for my Pugilist, but I ended up Dog and Hound because we all know a Robot with a dog friend is cute as hell

[uncut zenith]

I’m not a big fan of pet subclasses so Dog and Hound doesn’t really do much for me personally

[woven flint]

Even if said robot is 7 feet tall, as broad as a train car and can send you flying with a punch.

[reef tundra]

Oh btw if anyone else knows homebrew or third party classes that are good, I would love the tip

[rough basalt]

They added Sticks to Snakes to 5e but only as a ddb sub exclusive, interesting

[timid anvil]

Blast from the past right there!

[uncut zenith]

If I were gonna play a Pugilist, I’d go either Piss and Vinegar or Street Saint, cuz I love the “former convict turned to faith” trope

[woven flint]

It was more of an aspect of my character
Having him learn empathy from raising a dog

[humble cairn]

Gimme all the pets!

[inner silo]

Is street saint like a monk paladin?

[rough basalt]

I dont like the fact that theyre ddb sub exclusive and can't own them. Gives me some worry

[reef tundra]

Oh btw is Illrigger third party or partnered content now? I was just looking through someone’s 5e content list and I saw “Illrigger revised” and was completely taken by surprise

[uncut zenith]

Kinda yeah. They have Lay On Hands and CD

[woven flint]

Well, not that he wasn't empathetic.
He just didn't relate well to humanoids
But he feels like his dog truly understands him

[inner silo]

Sounds cool!

[timid anvil]

Also in case you missed it, we have a channel for the drops in #ddb-drops if you got something to say about them :)

[humble cairn]

Just to be clear, all partnered content is third party. But not all third party content is partnered with Beyond.

[uncut zenith]

Yes, it’s “partnered content” is third party. It was never official in 5E

They prefer to refer to third party content as “partnered” to make sure people understand it’s in fact a partnership between DDB/WOTC and the creator of said content

[woven flint]

There's Three Subclasses from the original that I'm sad didn't make it in the reprint, honestly
Leadeater, Rift Puncher and Revenant

Rift Puncher is my favorite conceptually because portal punches are cool

They could punch you from 30 feet away!!!

[humble cairn]

Some people need their naming privileges taken away.

[woven flint]

No, wait...
Riff Hitter?

I forgot exactly what it was called tbh

[uncut zenith]

Ngl I wouldn’t be surprised if some subclasses got left out because either they just couldn’t find a way to update it for the 2024 rules or because the creator wanted to hold onto some content that can only be purchased directly through them

If you can get all their stuff through DDB and that’s where people mostly buy it, the creator only gets a cut of the profits. If buyers have a reason to buy from them directly, they can make more off of their own content.

[rough basalt]

I was interested in that dinosaur book but nah

[woven flint]

Rift Hitter, Revenant, Paradox Consortium, Leadeater, Bloodhound Bruiser and Arena Royale didn't make it

[uncut zenith]

I have it in PDF, so I didn’t feel like spending more money just to have it on DDB

[rough basalt]

Yeah I just only want physical media if i can help it for tabletop

if i get digital its either cause its a very good deal or part of a bundle.

[uncut zenith]

I’m also not running any campaigns atm so it makes no sense for me to buy something I don’t really plan on using right now

[torpid hound]

Wait, anyone remember the Human Druid with the Criminal background and Magic Initiate Wizard? Wouldn't Sage and Alert be better?

[humble cairn]

I've looked at it and I like it, but weirdly nothing interests me to actually use despite playing a dinosaur themed Beast Master right now.

[rough basalt]

Like i bought PF token art on foundry and the draw steel starter set digitally cause both were lotta bang for a little buck

But for books only physical

Though its getting to be a problem

[uncut zenith]

It’s a much more DM focused book anyways. Like it has character options, but it focuses a lot more on creating a setting that’s reminiscent to different prehistoric eras and the dinosaurs you’d see in said eras

[rough basalt]

My room is starting to look like a wizards study with all the books i have lying around

[torpid hound]

Wait I already brought it up back then

[reef tundra]

Almost broke my brain but I think I understand it

[empty thicket]

alert is nice, going first with some classes is crucial

[haughty nimbus]

I’m struggling to decide between dex fighter or str fighter

[torpid hound]

If you want to be a defender pick Strength

[rough basalt]

Both are fun

[empty thicket]

Dex is flexible in many aspects, except heavy armor
STR is standing in front of your enemy and exchanging blows. You Stand Your Ground.

[reef tundra]

Which style do you prefer? Beefcake big weapon person or nimble technique slinger

[rough basalt]

Fighter is like a "build a bear workshop" of martials.

[torpid hound]

Plate Armor gives more AC than Studded Leather with 20 Dexterity

[empty thicket]

Yep, its the beauty of it

[haughty nimbus]

Not sure, I’m planning on building an eldrich knight and I’m struggling to pick

[torpid hound]

Then is Wizard the "build a bear workshop" of casters?

[empty thicket]

Many options of many kind and hte extra ASI's for flavor him

[empty thicket]

yeah, in fact he is

and warlock is the "build a bear workshop" of hybrids

[reef tundra]

I’d say warlock could be too, because of all the invocations

[reef tundra]

Amen

[torpid hound]

They laugh at me being basic, I laugh at their puny four ASI's and one extra attack

[haughty nimbus]

ASI?

[empty thicket]

when you reach X levels you get 2 options, upgrade some stat or get a feat

[torpid hound]

Warlocks are Eldritch Blast spammers unless they pick the Blade invocation so I wouldn't say so

[torpid hound]

Ability Score Improvement (or any other feat)

[empty thicket]

"Ability Score Improvement"

[haughty nimbus]

Ah

[reef tundra]

Fighter is like bread. Looks basic, but the sheer amount of customisation and meals you can make with bread. And you can see who lacks an imagination if they complain about bread

[humble cairn]

All of these terms are kind of vague and overlap with each other. It's kind of like how genres don't have clear boundaries. "Official" content is stuff made by Wizards of the Coast, everything else is some variation of unofficial or homebrew, "Third Party" is basically any homebrew that has the backing of a company and money rather than just being some person's personal madeup stuff. "Partnered Content" is the stuff that is not made by Wizards, but is allowed on Beyond because they have a partnership with Wizards and/or Beyond.

[empty thicket]

I want them to laugh at my 12 attacks range.

[uncut zenith]

2024 Warlocks don’t have to be EB spammers anymore, but they’re definitely still cantrip spammers given the low number of spell slots they get between rests

[reef tundra]

I say they absolutely could, just pick the invocations that are… not that

[empty thicket]

its part of their idea.
Still they get some utility//survival spells for free

[torpid hound]

How is Mage Armor gonna help you deal damage?

[empty thicket]

I would cast false life all the time i could

[reef tundra]

By keeping me alive

But also if you’re talking optimisation, then we will not agree

[haughty nimbus]

I would assume swift stride shifter would work better with dex

[torpid hound]

The other way around actually, you usually kill every monster before they can attack you in D&D

[reef tundra]

I pick invocations I think are cool. Idc about maximising my damage to be uber powerful

[uncut zenith]

I’m mostly referring to the fact that the invocations that previously only applied to EB can now be applied to any attack cantrip they have

[torpid hound]

What even are their other offensive cantrips?

[minor cargo]

This is really interesting. After your thesis is finished, if you uploaded it for others to read, I'd love to give it a read!

Christianity and D&D definitely has an interesting history. Even today, there are Christian 5E games/kickstarters and they largely feel... strange. But if anything, it's interesting to see how people express faith (all faiths) as they intersect hobbies and interests. ✌️

[reef tundra]

Also the pact boons being invocations now finally lets me combine them! I cannot wait to make a pact of the tome and chain warlock to be classic Eldritch witch

[uncut zenith]

Ray of Frost is a good one to apply Repelling Blast to, cuz it damages the target, pushes them away, and the spell slows them down

[reef tundra]

Eldritch blast maxxers so vocal all other warlock cantrips are forgotten to some people 😭

[reef tundra]

Oooh that’s a nice combo I might try

[humble cairn]

With the right invocations you can make a very decent illusionist as a Warlock.

[reef tundra]

Infinite disguise self, my favourite invocation

[humble cairn]

Infinite Silent Image as well.

[empty thicket]

still the best to use most of the time is EB, for being force damage
Poison spray and mind silver are good cantrips, i wont deny
Chill touch and true strike for close options are okey

[reef tundra]

Oh yes, that too! It would be really fun to play an archfey warlock centred on illusions!

[humble cairn]

Mask of Many Faces is also just an awesome name.

[reef tundra]

Indeed

[atomic kayak]

Slight clarification: there is some first party partnered content. Namely Wildemount and Netherdeep (and Rick& Morty and Stranger things)

[haughty nimbus]

Hey, so if I want to do two weapon fighting, would short sword+ sickle be okay or should I just go two short swords

[atomic kayak]

(The partnered tag is very useless generally speaking)

[torpid hound]

Scimitar + Shortsword if you want to use Nick

[reef tundra]

Definition so wide it means nothing 😭

[atomic kayak]

It just means "someone else was involved"

[reef tundra]

Sickle lacks love, do sickle

[uncut zenith]

Yes, but sometimes you want more than just blunt damage. See my example re: Ray of Frost and Repelling Blast

[reef tundra]

Not everyone is looking for big ultra damage

[haughty nimbus]

Also, eldrich knight says I can have two weapons bonded at a time ‘but can only summon one at a time as a bonus action’ does that mean I can have both out for two bonus actions or just one weapon?

[onyx sluice]

People do be loving big numbers

[torpid hound]

Poison Spray is hard to use when there are so many monsters immune to it

[empty thicket]

Yep, that is welcome too
Invocations are really good and rarely one will not be useful

[reef tundra]

I know, big number is fun, but I only step in when people act like it’s the only choice and actively discourage others from using other choices

[empty thicket]

then toll the dead is your other option

(i almost said troll the dead omfg)

[haughty nimbus]

I don’t think my character is going to be wanting to lug arrund a sword all the time if they can only summon one weapon at a time.

[torpid hound]

I might want to do that sometime

[haughty nimbus]

I can, however see them varying a sickle or a dagger on them as ‘protection’

[uneven harness]

i just realised the new may dndbeyond sub perks brought back 1e spells like sticks to snakes, buzzing bee

[haughty nimbus]

Hang on. Could heavy crossbow work for eldrich knight

Cause I’m playing a swift stride shifter so if someone ends a turn near me I can just back up into a viable range

[torpid hound]

One of my friends wants to play as an expy of Shadow Milk Cookie. I'm pretty sure the Bard is the best class for a con artist, but don't know which subclass they should pick

[cloud bison]

not sure about digital losing parity with physical

[torpid hound]

Sticks to Snakes? Isn't that what Moses did?

[cloud bison]

yes, thats where it comes from

[valid geyser]

yeah not sure how to feel about ddb subscription exclusive content.

[torpid hound]

Is it a Cleric spell?

[valid geyser]

it was yeah

[cloud bison]

one of my players is going to get a bunch of spells my other players dont have because they paid more

[cloud bison]

yeah

[timid anvil]

We got a channel for concerns, questions and feedback about the drops in #ddb-drops :)

[torpid hound]

?

[mystic crystal]

Silly question but is there a map of the forgotten realms?

[uneven stone]

if they deceive people n shit prolly college of eloquence?

it like depends on what con theyre running

[lavish flame]

There's a few, most recently in Forgotten Realms: Heroes of Faerun we got a map of Faerun. If you want the full world, you'll need to go online and look for a World Map of Toril

[torpid hound]

2024

[uneven stone]

does 2024 not have it?

[torpid hound]

No

[woven flint]

You can use 2014 subclasses with 2024 rules as long as its not reprinted.

[torpid hound]

Ah thanks for letting me know

[lavish flame]

yeah i've got an Eloquence Bard in my 2024 game

[mystic crystal]

Thank you, I’ll go look for it

[torpid hound]

And I'm assuming the guy who wants to play as an expy of Uzi would be a Warforged Artillerist?

[uneven stone]

what is an expy even

and uzi from what, murder drones?

[torpid hound]

A character similar to another character basically

For example Bendy is an expy of Mickey Mouse

[uneven stone]

ok you had me in the first half but how are they similar

[uneven stone]

maybe dip in pact of the blade for the AS powers?

idk what level yall will be playing

[empty thicket]

Mind silver stacks? oh wait, it doesnt because the next mend silver would need a save so it would proc

[torpid hound]

AS?

[uneven stone]

absolute solver

its like basically warlock type shit

[empty thicket]

Being able to cast a weapon out of nowhere is nice

[uneven stone]

send button is completely optional btw

[empty thicket]

someone else would had same idea and would see it.
If not someone would find a way around it and make it stack

[torpid hound]

Meanwhile my character is a Human Wizard named "Victus" (Latin for loser) while his Sorcerer brother is named "Victor" (Latin for winner). Victus became a detective and believes that Victor is a criminal, but he can't prove it

His friends call him Vick

[empty thicket]

oh boy, i cant wait for the "suprise" moment

[torpid hound]

The thing is trying to actually catch Victor

[uneven stone]

is his brother adopted? XD

[torpid hound]

?

[woven flint]

Homicide 🧐

[uneven stone]

sorcerer

[woven flint]

Murder solves many problems, just have him kill his brother /joking

[uneven stone]

anywas, victus can be latin for "defeated" but i dont think it can be a noun meaning "loser"

[torpid hound]

What does that have to do with being adopted?

[torpid hound]

I just put "loser" into Google Translate

[woven flint]

Not everyone in the family must be a sorcerer for a Sorcerer to be born.
They're rare in lore anyway

You could have normal ass parents and still be born a Sorcerer

[torpid hound]

Exactly

Also, does anyone here actually know who Victus is based on?

[woven flint]

But, also, sometimes you're not even born a Sorcerer, you can become one through particular events in your life

[torpid hound]

Like saving a Golden Dragon from a lich or something

[uneven stone]

yeah i know, abberant mind n shit but like i just felt like asking

[torpid hound]

(Draconic Sorcery)

[woven flint]

...
What made you correlate being a Sorcerer and being adopted? 😭

[uneven stone]

its just the first thing i think about when i hear wizard and sorcerer brothers 🤷

[woven flint]

Well..
They're both still magically adept
One was just BORN with natural magic

The other had to study for it.

Its not that far off

[still plover]

Or they both were, but think about it differently.

[uneven stone]

secret third sibling wasnt born with it and didnt wanna study so they entered into a contract with a fiend trust

[still plover]

Or neither was but one is less disciplined.

[torpid hound]

A Paladin, a Bard, an Artillerist and a Wizard walk into a tavern
They all die because none of them could hide from the goblins that attacked afterwards

[woven flint]

What?

[torpid hound]

None of us is good at stealth, help

[uneven stone]

then fight back?

[woven flint]

Just learn the invisibility spell

Smh.

[torpid hound]

10 bugbears

[torpid hound]

2nd level spell slot

[woven flint]

Okay?

You avoid combat for a second level spell slot

Or find an escape

[torpid hound]

Fair

[uneven stone]

the chainmail/plate armor noises:

[torpid hound]

That's something our Paladin will have to deal with

[woven flint]

Wizards and Bards when they don't have to worry about that:

[uneven stone]

true but theyre all in a bad spot if mr paladin dies

[woven flint]

Not if they're gone by the time the Paladin dies

[uneven stone]

then theres still a dead paladin

[woven flint]

New character time

[torpid hound]

I used to be a martial defender, now I'm a caster supremacist. They can do literally nothing apart from attacking

Wait I should change my tag

[cedar bane]

counterpoint: hitting people is fun

[uneven stone]

currently playing a hexblade and its peak

[torpid hound]

Counterpoint: I cast Fireball

[torpid hound]

That's a full caster

[onyx sluice]

I like playing martial and being clever relying on wit and skill over having magic as a crutch

[uneven stone]

counterpoint: i cast fireball and bonk

[woven flint]

I don't classify Paladins or Rangers as martials

[cedar bane]

counterpoint: does a backflip

[uneven stone]

im better at archery than our ranger and better at fighting than our fighter

[woven flint]

Barbarian, Monk, Rogue and Fighter

[torpid hound]

They're 50/50

[woven flint]

Thats why I don't classify them as martials

[torpid hound]

But if we're splitting the martials and casters equally then they're martials. Their spells support their martial powers

Artificer is an odd ball

[onyx sluice]

Monk and Rogue laugh in evasion than bonk from the flames

[woven flint]

The term Half-Caster exists within the community for a reason 🧐

[uneven stone]

hexblade+pact of the blade is just full martial and full caster 🤷

[onyx sluice]

If you can cast a leveled spell you're some form of caster

[torpid hound]

Being proficient in Martial Weapons doesn't make you a full martial

[uneven stone]

i laugh in devilsight+darkness

[torpid hound]

You're as much as a martial as the Eldritch Knight is a caster

[thorn osprey]

Where did the idea that Artificer can just create "anything" come from, and how true is it?

[uneven stone]

have you played, a hexblade pact of the blade?

im a better martial than our martials

even without spells

[woven flint]

They can't just make anything.
But they are the class about magic items

Magic!!!
Explodes

[torpid hound]

Casters: "Let's make them be able to use their casting ability for weapon attacks"
Martials: "No way, they would be way too strong if they used their martial ability for spells"

[uneven stone]

me when dexterity influences ac and initiative n shit:

[onyx sluice]

Never met a warlock hexblade that didnt use, Hex

[torpid hound]

How does that relate

[woven flint]

I mean, Shillelagh exists anyway

Its Druid exclusive, but anyone can get Druid magic initiate

[uneven stone]

i mean i do, but even if i didnt i'd still be more powerful

[lavish flame]

The idea came from... the vague notion that they make stuff. Artificer as a class can replacate magic items as part of a Class Feature. There are a handful of lists of magic items they get to choose from, and nothing on them is particularly terrible. People take this "Artificers create things" and took it all the way to "Artificers can create anything" based on literally nothing corroborating that.

People sometimes talk about Artificers making nuclear weapons, for example. Artificers cannot do that nor anything close to it.

[uneven stone]

it influences more things than spells and attack/damage rolls

[onyx sluice]

Thats a spell hun

Yeah, no Dex is the best stat hands down.

[uneven stone]

have you read, the messages i sent?

[woven flint]

Nah, it's Wisdom

[torpid hound]

Isn't it Constitution? Strength Fighters, Protector Clerics, Armorer Artificers (except Infiltrator) and Paladins don't need Dexterity

[uneven stone]

i would be better, even if, i didnt, use, spells...

[woven flint]

Wisdom, Constitution and Dexterity are tied for best stats to me lol

[quiet cliff]

heya, i new here

[onyx sluice]

Not the best. If you dont get hit why worry about hp. Dex fighters are superior to strength fighters

[woven flint]

Wisdom because its the most common mental save and it has nices skills

Dexterity and Constitution are self explanatory

[uneven stone]

con is always just nice to have in whatever build you use

[onyx sluice]

Con is always secondary

[torpid hound]

But they can't use big weapons or heavy armor

[woven flint]

I cringe a bit when people purposely dump con 😭

[torpid hound]

Vax'Ildan be like

But he rolled crazy high stats so it doesn't even matter

[onyx sluice]

Oh no, what will I do without super expensive armor and slightly more damag

[uneven stone]

unless ur using a two stat dependant build, in which case its tertiary

[woven flint]

My Ranger is my lowest con character (13) but that's because we rolled stats and I'm playing a Gloomstalker, so, i prioritized Wisdom over Constitution

[lavish flame]

Everybody wants good Dexterity Save bonuses because Dex saves are very common. Everybody wants good Initiative rolls because going first usually means going more. Everybody wants good unarmored AC because getting into a fight while resting sucks.

[woven flint]

What adding wisdom to initiative does to a fella

Plus, I'm playing a Bugbear fellow, so when I inevitably go first, i pop off 😎

[uneven stone]

oh

bugbears are like beyond broken

[woven flint]

Only on the first turn of combat..
If you go before everything else, yes

[cloud bison]

are there any other undead that drain life like a wight?

[torpid hound]

"Slightly more damage"
4.5 vs. 7

[uneven stone]

easily the only S tier race next to variant human and custom lineage

[lean bolt]

With the Drops Content Library announcement listing new player options; spells/feats, is that in addition to or replacing the homebrew library or is it just a really small module release like a mini-book?

[lavish flame]

2014 Half-Elf is right there

[woven flint]

Liches, Vampires.. uh.. i can't name all of them , but life drain is pretty common amongst undead

[onyx sluice]

Add in off hand attacks and other fun stuff. Can't off hand attack with a two hander or wear a shield.

[woven flint]

Death Knights

Nightwalkers

[torpid hound]

Then you're using your bonus action

And you can't use Great Weapon Master

[uneven stone]

A tier, isnt even close to the top 3

[uneven stone]

great weapon master is good but not godly

[lavish flame]

baffling, get a better model of opinion machine

[severe rampart]

Nick Mastery*

[torpid hound]

And I can use other masteries

[onyx sluice]

Its mid

[woven flint]

My Bugbear completely destroyed 8 Devils last night :]
He killed 7 of them by himself and 1 was clean up.
(4 died to a trap he activated though)

[severe rampart]

TWF isn't better than GWF nor is GWF better than TWF, it's all about preference.

[uneven stone]

bugbear: +2d6 for all atack rolls against creatures who havent taken a turn
variant human+custom lineage: free feat
half elf: just good but not broken like those 3

[torpid hound]

You're looking at the wrong feat. GWF is bad, pick Defense instead since a defender is what you're going for

[woven flint]

Bugbears also have the benefits of counting as a size larger for carrying, pushing, etc
And can squeeze into spaces as if they were small creatures...
Also free Stealth proficiency

[severe rampart]

What?

[woven flint]

Bugbears are very strong 🧐

[uneven stone]

yeah.. but that doesnt even compare to just eldritch blasting with action surge on turn 1 for CRAZY damage

[woven flint]

ALSO..
also..
+5 feet to their reach

[mystic crystal]

Never met a bugbear I couldn’t beat in battle

[woven flint]

As player characters, i mean.

[uneven stone]

i nearly forgot about thAT

[torpid hound]

Action Surge doesn't work on spells

[mystic crystal]

I know I was joking

[woven flint]

Mostly because its only meler attacks

[severe rampart]

they're talking about 2014

[uneven stone]

is this some 2024 thing?

[severe rampart]

2024 you can't take the "Magic action" with action surge

[woven flint]

Bugbears are a really strong option on anyone with insanely good initiatives

[cloud bison]

does there happen to be a sword with it added as an effect?

[hybrid granite]

An equivalent would be if the GGR is allowed on the table and you have the Illusionist's Bracers. Action-Bonus Action Eldritch Blasts.

[torpid hound]

Yes

[severe rampart]

but I reckon you can just use Quickened Metamagic

[woven flint]

My Bugbear gloomstalker has a +8 and Advantage because a weapon of warning
I'm still considering taking either Alert or Resilient Con when we get to level 8 lol

[torpid hound]

Why are people still playing the 12 year old Variant Human simulator?

[severe rampart]

Preference.

[mystic crystal]

Cause humans are the best

[uneven stone]

wraiths get that too i believe

[normal junco]

i still play 40+ year old games too.

[uneven stone]

as if we all play CL or VH

[woven flint]

He already mentioned that lol

[jolly canyon]

Why are people?

[torpid hound]

What does that stand for

[uneven stone]

didnt he say wight

[severe rampart]

You still play Gen 3 Pokemon even though Gen 9 is out, maybe you don't like Gen 9, maybe you like emerald

[uneven stone]

custom lineage and variant human

[woven flint]

On one side
On par initiative with big boss monsters

On another get my con mod to a +2 and get proficiency in Con saves 🤔

[uneven stone]

alert isnt realllyyy worth it anymore atp i think, but idk what your exact build/level is

[severe rampart]

Folks #optimization is right there 😭

[woven flint]

We're level 5
I got Shadow Touched at level 4 for the omce per day invisibility cast and also took False Life lol

[mystic crystal]

I keep seeing that we don’t know where to talk about what and where 😂

[severe rampart]

Eh, it's not an issue unless it gets heated

[woven flint]

Its still worth it.
Also considering you can swap initiative with allies and I'd have huge initiative boosts for anyone who'd like to really do something
Looks at my Sorcerer and Wizard

[severe rampart]

Though I would like to reignite this, what do you mean??

[uneven stone]

what is your dex at

[mystic crystal]

I got this.

Humans are the best race to play as and you can’t conceive me otherwise

[uneven stone]

is that official tho?

[woven flint]

Yes.

[torpid hound]

Greatswords are center-weighted, it's rare to roll low

[hot marlin]

The best race to play is the one that fits the character, nothing else

[woven flint]

Also yes

[severe rampart]

What are you talking about?

D&D is not a physics simulator

[normal junco]

unless you get reincarnated, then you get what the dice tell you and deal with it.

[uneven stone]

oh i googled it, its some dumb 2024 thing again

[empty thicket]

Yep, i love to justify it sometimes

[jolly canyon]

Damage dice. Not weight

[woven flint]

I played a Bugbear not specifically for the mechanics but because I wanted to play a big hairy goblin dude who has a beautiful elf wife he loves

[woven flint]

That's not dumb at all? Lol

[severe rampart]

Thanks for clarifying :D

[uneven stone]

thats what they all say

[empty thicket]

"Yeah, my mother is the ork and my father a human really reckless and a romantic. He melted the rock hard heart of my momma"

[woven flint]

He talks about his wife at least once a session

[hot marlin]

He means that greatswords are 2d6, which is like 1d12 except that it has far more chances of getting towards the middle. With 2d6 you are very likely to roll a 7, with 1d12 all results are equally probable

[torpid hound]

Look up a dice calculator and put in 2d6, you'll see that it's a bell curve.

[uneven stone]

you are literally the minotaur at my table XD

[severe rampart]

Right, but how is it better than Two Weapon Fighting?

[mystic crystal]

I played halfling simply for the 99.99% chance to never roll a nat one

[torpid hound]

How is what better than TWF?

[empty thicket]

still a greatweapon meaning if you have the fighting style of it any 1 or 2 can be rerolled or used like a 3

[severe rampart]

Great Weapon Fighting

[torpid hound]

I literally said it's not, use Defense instead. Strength Fighters benefit from it more than Dexterity Fighters

[hot marlin]

Basically, take a 1d12 weapon if you like gambling. Take 2d6 if you prefer stability

[woven flint]

"My Wife is a Wood Elf, she's also a Druid.. she also makes Shampoo for me.. her favorite scent is Lavander.. thats why she makes me lavander shampoo.. I grew to love it too."

Besides ths wholesome wife speak, he works for the Zhentarim and is indeed a trained remorseless killer lmao

[mystic crystal]

Blackjack where!?!?

[severe rampart]

Ah, I thought you were saying Dex Fighters are inherently worse than Strength Fighters

[torpid hound]

A Fighter with Plate and Defense has the same armor class as one with Stuffed Leather, 20 Dexterity and a Shield

[hot marlin]

Bear in mind that class and species features and feats may alter whether or not the 1d12 or 2d6 weapon is better.

[torpid hound]

I never said that. They're both equally good

[torpid hound]

Savage Attacker works better with 1d12 for example

What kind of eldritch abomination is a d13

[woven flint]

The sad thing is, now we're in the hells and who knows if he'll make it back home to his wife

[uneven stone]

like the savage attacks thing

[hot marlin]

Technically possible when using a non-standard dice shape

[woven flint]

(She's also pregnant and he doesn't know :])

[torpid hound]

Bump

[woven flint]

@hot marlin
Arlen is in the Emerald Enclave, right?

[hot marlin]

Uh. Normally I'm not a big fan of different species being able to interbreed but...Goblinoids and elves all have fey ancestry so that feels actually plausible

[hot marlin]

Yes. He's an environmental lawyer.

Or she. Or they. Don't know, don't care

[uneven stone]

who is arlen

[hot marlin]

The wizard I'm playing.

[empty thicket]

"It.. it was only one night thing and... welp, it seems we were more compatible i knew so... that is how you were born son"

[severe rampart]

I get what you mean now, though you do still need to get Plate Armor in game

[woven flint]

They might've met Bogeys wife at some point!
Shes also in the Emerald Enclave 😎

[hot marlin]

Well if Bogey ever says his wife's name, we'll see

[woven flint]

Bet 😎

[hot marlin]

And yeah the character would call themselves a lawyer first, a wizard second.

I can't wait for an actual trial scene.

[uneven stone]

"yeah ik the law pretty well, also, i can cast fireball"

[thorn osprey]

Can they create constructs, or "units" that fight for them? Or weapons that aren't exactly standard?

[uneven stone]

artillerist can create cannons to fight

[lavish flame]

They can indeed, depending on some choices they make. All Artificers can produce a Homunculus, which is like a little servant guy (akin to a Wizard's Familiar). Certain subclasses, like the Artillerist and Battlesmith can make combat minions, the Artillerist gets a miniature turret, the Battlesmith makes a metallic construct ally.

[thorn osprey]

Can said cannons be "automated" or not?

Or more or less, have it's own turn instead of consuming the artificer's actions

[jolly canyon]

You can put it down but it can't move on its own afaik

I'm running arti in my wm

[lavish flame]

Nah itll use the Artificer's actions to work

[feral fulcrum]

You need to use your various actions to get them to do things, because Action Economy is an important thing

[knotty vine]

I still would love to know how traxigor can use a dagger

As a tiny beast

[feral fulcrum]

And the second you add basically another creature with it's own turns, things can start to spiral

[lavish flame]

he's an otter, they have maneuverable hands

[knotty vine]

Do they?

[jolly canyon]

Even if you use you BA to make the little thing attack I don't think it gets to move on its own. It needs to be carried. I could be wrong so would love to be corrected. Especially since I'm using it in my games

[lavish flame]

maneuverable enough to lift a knife and stab with it

he's got the knowledge to do it, I figure thats most of the limit behind Using Tools

[knotty vine]

I guess

He was a human?? archmage

[feral fulcrum]

It can move on it's own, not very far, but It can move

[lavish flame]

yeah, he's super intelligent

[feral fulcrum]

"As part of the same bonus action, you can direct the cannon to walk or climb up to 15 feet to an unoccupied space, provided it has legs."

[knotty vine]

Hes a polymoprhed arch mage but he liked his new form so he made it perm with a wish spell

[lavish flame]

yeah, thats his whole bit

[knotty vine]

Very weird

[lavish flame]

he's kinda the worst part of BGDIA imo

[knotty vine]

How so?

[peak pecan]

Does anyone know what’s up with this D&D Beyond Drops thing?

[jolly canyon]

Thank you. That is important to know since I'm using it tonight lol

[uneven stone]

what is a bgdia

[lavish flame]

He's a goddamned otter who is the last NPC you meet in the Material Plane. Just the worst whiplash between Otter Archmage and Nine Hells

[knotty vine]

My favorite part of DiA has to be little one

[lavish flame]

Baldur's Gate Descent Into Avernus, an adventure module.

[knotty vine]

Its an orge with a headband of int

[uncut zenith]

The worst part of BGDiA to me was literally the entire Baldur’s Gate section of the campaign lol

[uneven stone]

vro did you not research the mechanics of the character you made what

[uneven stone]

oh ive heard of it yeah

[torpid hound]

What if Warlocks were Intelligence casters? That would equalize the number of casters for each mental ability

[jolly canyon]

I did but I misread/overlooked it. It's the only part I missed

[knotty vine]

Ive read through most of it and I really like the hell bits

[uncut zenith]

Traxigor was silly, but not a particularly bad part of the module as a whole to me

[idle oar]

Replacement for subscriber perks - more discussion in #ddb-drops and there is a post up on D&DBeyond explaining it.

[jolly canyon]

I know it's AC and HP, how the damage is and everything else. Just not the movement bit 😅

[feral fulcrum]

Big Goat Danger In Atlantis. I joke of course, it's Baldurs Gate: Descent into Avernus

[lavish flame]

thats Candlekeep Mysteries, but yeah he's amazing

[knotty vine]

Hes also in BG

[woven flint]

Little One!
We just met that guy past night

Little One is a cool dude

[knotty vine]

As the players go to candle keep for some reason

Little one is lump before lump

[feral fulcrum]

Why are people obsessed with making all Casters into Int stats.... I swear I see it like once a week on here.

[knotty vine]

Oh dang being subbed to dnd beyond gives you new perks

Thats kinda cool

[uneven stone]

i still hate dndbeyond 🙏

[feral fulcrum]

It is rather made of Glue and Prayers

[uneven stone]

i mean its useful for beginners

but thats it

[knotty vine]

Theres a Tarrasque dice set

[peak pecan]

This is great; a whole bunch of 4th edition maps and new options for my upcoming sessions

[uncut zenith]

It’s pretty helpful for DMs like me who don’t wanna carry around 50,000 physical books too lol

But how useful it is varies by person

[knotty vine]

Sticks to Snakes reminds me of that one bible guy

[peak pecan]

It’s a classic spell

[knotty vine]

He turned his staff into a snake

[uneven stone]

we usually just google rules we dont know 🤷

[knotty vine]

Is it?

[uncut zenith]

I don’t rely on Google for rules since a lot of people online don’t post the rules correctly

[peak pecan]

Yeah; swear it’s from an older edition

[lavish flame]

Cuz Int is one of the weaker stats, so having more classes relying on it inflates its relevance

[knotty vine]

Yooo Leomund's Lamentable Belaborment

More named spells!

[uncut zenith]

Official sources only for me

[uneven stone]

belaborment

[rough basalt]

One of the ddb origin feats is pretty busted tho

[uneven stone]

that word made me spit out my drink and had me laughing for a solid 30 seconds

[rough basalt]

I could see AL saying "nah bro." to it

[knotty vine]

its pretty much the "i challenge you to a debate" spell

[woven flint]

I challenge you...

[knotty vine]

While Charmed, a target must spend its turn discussing or arguing for or against your statement. For the duration, the target has a Speed of 0 and has the Blinded and Deafened conditions with respect to everyone except you and other targets affected by this spell.

[severe rampart]

Lmao I love that

[rough basalt]

Cause fire, and poison resistance as well as 60ft of Devils Sight as an origin feat is pretty crazy

[uneven stone]

i also have most official sources just saved as a pdf in case

[uneven stone]

bomboclat

[knotty vine]

Which one is that?!

[rough basalt]

Infernal Pact iirc

[knotty vine]

gah damn

That is a bit much for a orgin feat

[severe rampart]

That is not an original feat

[knotty vine]

Eldritch adpet crying rn

[severe rampart]

That is Warlock Tiefling in a bottle

[uncut zenith]

Oh don’t worry, I’m not suggesting you have to like DDB! I’m just saying the level of usefulness varies from person to person

[uneven stone]

as a debater im crine vro

[rough basalt]

There's also an origin feat that gives you unarmoured defense

[severe rampart]

What???

[rough basalt]

For 10 + dex + con or cha

[severe rampart]

That is insane

[uncut zenith]

Stick to Snakes just feels like they turned those snake magic items into a spell tbh

[severe rampart]

But they go away after a month?

The drops, I mean

[rough basalt]

Nah they go away when you stop subbing

[knotty vine]

Im so happy they cleare this up
Infernal Sight. You can see normally in Dim Light and Darkness—both magical and nonmagical—within 60 feet of yourself.

[rough basalt]

The library itself will remain.

[uncut zenith]

I don’t hate it, I just remember there was like… the Staff of the Python and Staff of the Adder that did basically the same thing. Turns a staff into a snake.

[severe rampart]

But the ones that dropped while you were subbed, you get to keep?

[knotty vine]

You can see normally in dim light and darkness

[rough basalt]

But LaTia clarified earlier in the channel for it that if you have a PC using ddb drop features the PC keeps them.

[rough basalt]

Nope

It's like Game Pass.

[severe rampart]

Ah, I understand, but why did they make drops a thing?

[rough basalt]

To replace the old benefits system

[knotty vine]

I didnt even know the dnd drops was a thing

[lavish flame]

its a classic brought to the modern day.

I would've preferred to see it in a print release, and not this.

[rough basalt]

Brand spanking new

[peak pecan]

It just released today

[knotty vine]

Ohhhh

[severe rampart]

What? They're taking away my benefits? Grrr

[uncut zenith]

I kinda wonder if we’re gonna see these things in Drops in future books

[lavish flame]

I'm assuming this is their 5th attempt at making Dragon Magazine but again

[rough basalt]

I pessimistically assume it's part of the move towards digital only

[knotty vine]

then what is this stuff about?
Vecna Backdrops Character Sheet Backdrops Jun 2022

Or was that somethin else

[torpid hound]

Warlocks were actually playtested as Intelligence casters but playtesters complained about it. Their whole thing is occult lore

[uncut zenith]

Those are old subscriber bonuses

[torpid hound]

And they have all the Intelligence skills

[severe rampart]

I'm feeling good, played D&D as a player three days in a row

[torpid hound]

But not even Persuasion

[blissful dragon]

no they said all old perks will be part of the new drops

[knotty vine]

Mmm got it

[rough basalt]

I'm mixed on it

[blissful dragon]

including ones you missed

[severe rampart]

Okay good. They'll have to pry content sharing from my cold dead hands.

[uncut zenith]

They’re just tying the old system of subscriber bonuses into the new Drops system

[knotty vine]

I want the vecna backdrops

[rough basalt]

The Drops content can't be content shared as well

[knotty vine]

That makes sense ngl

[uncut zenith]

Yeah they’re exclusive to subscribers

[knotty vine]

Its sub content only

[rough basalt]

Ye if you want the P2W feat you gotta P2W

[knotty vine]

DND is now pay to win

[lavish flame]

this Infernal Pact feat is too strong

[rough basalt]

Me outperforming my fellow players cause I swiped my card.

[knotty vine]

It really is

[uncut zenith]

But yeah I’m curious to see if we’re gonna end up seeing things similar to the new Drops content in future books. Especially with this new introduction of “Planar Feats”.

[torpid hound]

Always has been
Laughs in XGTE with Hexblade

[knotty vine]

They pretty much took a piece of inferal con and eldritch adept and mixxed it into 1 feat

[uncut zenith]

May be a sneak peek into some of the stuff we could see coming out of Arcana Unearthed?

[rough basalt]

I think that'd go against the "digital first" they're moving to.

Since if it's in a book, it's ownable

[knotty vine]

Resistance to two of the most common damage types is the most daming part of the faet

I doubt itll be AL legal

[lavish flame]

Planar Feats makes me think we will see these in a future book OR that this is a category that will only exist in DDB Subscription stuff in an effort to allow DMs to blanketly ban the subscription content.

[glad ferry]

Would starting as fighter then going to hexblade warlock work? Action surge eldritch blast

[torpid hound]

If buying isn't owning... /j

[rough basalt]

ALs definitely gonna ban it

[severe rampart]

If you're playing 2014, yeah

2024 you can't use the magic action.

[valid geyser]

you can magic action as the first action then surge

[severe rampart]

Maybe get Metamagic Adept for Quickened Spell instead so you can Quicken EB

[uneven stone]

thats uhhh quite good nglll

[knotty vine]

I like inferal dragon

[rough basalt]

Picking an Aasimar with the Infernal Pact feat so you can start the game with 4 damage resistances. 3 of them being common.

[uncut zenith]

Could be, I just wouldn’t be surprised if we see them and more in the Arcana Unearthed book. It wouldn’t be the first time we see something get printed in a digital bonus that eventually makes it to print (see Dhampir)

[rough basalt]

That's true

[severe rampart]

Thinking about it more, it's insane

[glad ferry]

I enjoy the gem dragons. Though aromatics are fun to

[torpid hound]

What kind of Aasimar has an Infernal Pact?

[glad ferry]

Chromatics

[rough basalt]

It's not about the story it's about the power.

[knotty vine]

Any Aasmiar

[valid geyser]

two resistances

so four resistances at level 1

[knotty vine]

4 resistances

[severe rampart]

Which are Poison, Fire, Necrotic, and Radiant

[glad ferry]

That would be a crazy way to start

[lavish flame]

Poison and Fire resistance feels a little nuts to me for a Background

[knotty vine]

Id kinda discount radiant cause you most likely wont be fighting anything

[rough basalt]

Not to mention you also get 60ft of Devils Sight

[torpid hound]

Technically you can roleplay any OP combination that can't have a normal explanation as a power hungry megalomaniac called John Powergamer (don't do that)

[severe rampart]

Nah, at low levels usually enemies deal BPS

[lavish flame]

play a Barbarian and get all 3 Physical resistances too

[valid geyser]

ehh. CR 3 knights do radiant damage

[uneven stone]

charisma based casters when they can forget abt armor entirely: