dnd-discussion

[rotund shell]

I'll give it 5 sessions.

[rugged hawk]

Excuse you? This is DISCORD, arguing is mandatory

[buoyant oar]

It could even be an adoption situation. Von richton's Guide to ravenloft gives us the story of Jander Sunstar's dhampir daughter who was adopted

[fossil shuttle]

This is the D&D DISCORD, arguing is an obligation, I will have you know

[rotund shell]

It's true. See all the times I've gotten in trouble for it in the #dnd-rules channel

[steel moth]

I would partially agree, but I think it's more "if your characters are not challenged it wouldnt make a good story"

and I would put "a difficult obstacle to overcome" is sorely different from "traumatic event for your character"

[rugged hawk]

Your so-called 'clarification' is useless because it's all Discord, server doesn't matter.

[buoyant oar]

It also stems from the fact that a lot of D&D players got a lot of stuff they got to work through. And a lot of them use their characters as an avenue to explore that.

I do not recommend doing this. As your dungeon master is not a licensed therapist most of the time. But it's a thing that happens

Such a feeling has gotten all the more popular when you see live plays like critical role, which in the first few campaigns constantly did this to draw up more emotion and more storytelling beats. Now if you're a character that doesn't want to be dramatized, all you have to do is talk to any good DM and they should abide. If they don't get a new DM

[minor cargo]

I think "traumatize the character" is a bad way of describing it. Like, I get what it means, but I think if someone was new to the hobby/space, it might give the wrong impression.

It's better, but still not perfect, but I like "knife theory". That is, you, as the player, give the DM several "knives" they can use against your character. The DM then helps guide the story so that they can "stab you with a knife" at moments when it'll feel fulfilling, narratively compelling, and/or cathartic for the players.

[lean wigeon]

imo traumatizing characters for no other reason than wanting to traumatize them or for drama is very low hanging fruit as if the only way to deepen a character is to subject them to trauma and wound them

themes and such

[humble cairn]

I mean, if you really wanted to hide it, you could go the whole campaign without revealing it, but that's not fun, is it? The correct question isn't how long you can hide it, the correct question is how you should work with the other players to create the tension and the reveal. Players who try and keep secrets from other players usually turns out one of two ways, in my experience: 1) The other players figure out the secret immediately and ruin the surprise or 2) the other players never figure out the secret and when it is eventually revealed they don't actually care .. ruining the surprise.

[steel moth]

yeah I have heard of knife theory before

[lean wigeon]

it's like
it's like gege akutami
woah....

[humble cairn]

I'm an advocate of sharing secrets with players while getting their help to keep those secrets from their characters.

[buoyant oar]

Outside of a dedicated secret mechanic like you would find in rime of the frost maiden. I do not advocate for any player to keep secrets from their party

At a base level it bears the potential for players to see that the DM is awarding favoritism to a specific player character. Which is something that I personally avoid like the plague.

[lean wigeon]

i personally would struggle to figure out how my character would react to a secret if it was revealed out of the blue because i had no time nor opportunity to investigate how my character would react

i would also, as a player, find no reason to be invested in another person's character OOC if they tell me nothing about their character and their relevance to the plot

imo keeping secrets is, in most cases, very very bad because the players are not their characters, they are writers, and it is hard to write anything meaningful without full context

[buoyant oar]

Secrets can work but only if everyone in the party has one and obviously any Secrets kept from the DM do not exist

[loud tendon]

Aside from being randomly selected from the player pool to be the secret doppleganger/killer for a Halloween one shot, the biggest character secret I've had with a DM is that my human rogue was actually a very well made warforged who had been dropped in faerun during a bout of wild magic during a battle.

[limber trail]

I think it's ultimately up to players and the kind of game you want to run. I run for a group who are super invested in having those discoveries over time and organically. I only allow them because everyone is excited for them and willing to invest in other characters.

[buoyant oar]

Yeah, I think that mysteries can be awesome as you explore each other's characters. My thing is that one player at the table shouldn't be the only one with the secret. Especially of the caliber that we've been discussing.

[rough glacier]

Speaking of secrets, I did the cliche of telling my players there is a traitor amongst them without there being one and it worked almost too well, I honestly expected them to call me out sessions ago

[limber trail]

Oh absolutely. It needs to be all or nothing, everyone matching each other's investment in the game

[rough glacier]

I honestly don't know where to go from here, they are at each other's throats (in a friendly way ofcourse, no pvp yet)

[limber trail]

Or at the very least, I think players need the opportunity to have secrets and surprises like that.

[rough glacier]

I have no idea what would be a satisfying reveal for them bc there honestly is no traitor

[buoyant oar]

On the traitor thing, if it gets too much, you can always have the villain reveal that they pitted them against each other. Makes the villain all the more hatable

[limber trail]

I maybe see it more like, everyone needs some amount of plot investment. A certain amount of campaign time should be dedicated to each player, and that should be balanced.

[rough glacier]

That's kinda hard to do unless you made your party around that idea, not everyone likes to be that tuned in to other ppls characters

[fossil shuttle]

I would love to have something like that where everyone has some part of their character that they might be a bit more reluctant to share. The problem is that 1 of the other players is brand new and the other has only played one character and it was Jimbo from Balatro

[buoyant oar]

The idea of this party has caused me physical pain

[limber trail]

I do agree, which is why it only works for some types of groups.

[rough glacier]

It's strahd that did it, and they all are already hiding a bunch of stuff from each other

Almost everyone in the party hides their true race in a plethora of ways so everytime the traitor thing dies down a little a reveal happens and it's back on

It's hilarious, and good fun

[buoyant oar]

I do not get the incessant need in curse of Strahd in particular to have a character who is a bad comic relief.

[rough glacier]

What? I've never heard of that

[buoyant oar]

I once had a player who brought a character to the table named ulfric dank meme storm cloak. I had to sit the player down and have an honest discussion about expectations

[umbral girder]

The Mourning Slingshotting them into another setting sounds fun

[limber trail]

I think it stems from people wanting to feel unique/distinct in a setting, and not knowing how to properly make that work

[rough glacier]

That's be an immediate no from me, this is not only a serious campaign setting, it's also a very long one, even if I didn't have an issue with it the other players will in 10 sessions down the line

[rough glacier]

Thing is, you can be both a serious character and be unique, even the setting kinda pushes you to be a good person as killing most of the bad guys in cos tends to make barovia a better place to live in

[limber trail]

oh definitely. That's why I say it's from people who don't know how to make that work

[fossil shuttle]

Part of my characters purpose is admittedly to try and help the DM keep things in check because otherwise there's a pretty good chance the other members either becoming murder hobos (even if we use milestone), accidentally killing each other, or getting killed in 2 sessions because they decided attacking townsfolk was a good idea. I'm not trying to railroad or anything, just help them understand that this is a more serious setting and keep them alive long enough to get used to how the game works so they can really enjoy it.

[rough glacier]

Usually it tends to be new players, they are a bit to shy or self conscious to take their character seriously in fear of being seen as cringe, so they try to paint themselves as joke or ironic characters

[rough glacier]

This will very likely crash and burn, I don't wanna be rude but I'd hate to play with a surveillance camera as a team member, also dying alot and killing each other IS part of cos, the whole adventure punishes you for going in guns blazing, you have to gather info, talk to people ect to advance in the story

If your party members simply wanna kill everything that moves even after being punished for it then it's simply not their table/adventure, don't waste your energy and time trying to turn a wrench into a screwdriver

Once again, sorry if I sounded blunt or rude but this is a long adventure, be patient, find the perfect party then have your fun

[undone rain]

Shame how people have made it look cringe but they will warm up to it. I thought it was a bit cringe at first too but now i love it

[rough glacier]

I used to be one of these people, now I'm a huge geek and I love it

[undone rain]

Same here. Who would have guessed that me, the guy who thought roleplaying was a cringe and loser thing to do would end up loving it

[rough glacier]

There is no book, youtube video or sentence that'll convince someone to love ttrpgs as much as playing the actual thing does, now I'm addicted to DMing and I'm willing to burn my wallet to ash for this hobby lol

[fossil shuttle]

I know, and no offense taken. All honesty, I doubt I could really stop them if they tried, I just mean to give them a nudge in the right direction. I still want to enjoy the campaign myself, I'm not just here to babysit them, I'm here to have an edgy character with a mildly traumatic backstory dressed mostly in black who has a toxic family relationship with a bad guy, as Gary Gygax intended.

[humble cairn]

What does this have to do with secretly being Strahd's son?

[mossy void]

morning all

[fossil shuttle]

Nothing really, I just thought it was a neat idea and gave him some motivation

[rough glacier]

And I honestly hope you do have your fun, but once people have an idea of what their character is and how they wanna play it's impossible to change their mind

[undone rain]

Yeah same, i even want to get into pathfinder too

[rough glacier]

Good morning

[rough glacier]

So real

[humble cairn]

Right okay, so is that secret somethign you would be willing to share with the other players and enlist them to help keep it a secret from their characters?

[rough glacier]

Also, bulettes are underrated and deserve more variants

[mossy void]

what we dions im new here

[rough glacier]

Chatting about random stuff, mainly Curse of Strahd

[mossy void]

nice

[rough glacier]

I do honestly believe bulettes are as close to perfection as a monster gets, it's not too humanoid and doesn't look like too much of any one animal, and it is just a really cool monster all around

[mossy void]

no perple worm

[fossil shuttle]

Probably, I've run a similar character (In the sense of the kid of someone kinda evil) and I told that party about it beforehand. I might just say he's the son of a powerful vampire or something, though, just to keep a bit of the mystery

[rough glacier]

It's cool but at the end of the day it is just a big poisonous purple worm

Not exactly the most creative monster no offense

[mossy void]

i almost killed one at lvl 3 for fun match

[vast saddle]

I just lost my passion for D&D

[fossil shuttle]

Flashbacks to the time the party fought a giant sandworm and the DM put a tube sock stuffed with other socks on the table

[undone rain]

Hmm i got a nice idea for a gith im makin. Once being a cleric and soldier of vlaakith but soon after finding out about her lies, changes to a selunite

[rough glacier]

How so?

[humble cairn]

What happened?

[vast saddle]

Do I need to stop any form of online campaign and start looking for real life campaigns even if they are using 2014?

[vast saddle]

I'm an.....excommunicado in my current D&D server

[rough glacier]

Well, can you tell us what you dislike first? Irl can be hard to set up and comes with ots own problems, so you might not find your solution there

[vast saddle]

Every topic I start is immediately ignored

[humble cairn]

Ahh that's rough, mabye take a break and try and find a new community later.

[rough glacier]

That just sounds like a bad community

[humble cairn]

Wait, you're not literally banned or something?

[vast saddle]

No, but I feel treated like an outcast

[vast saddle]

It's just a generational gap

[humble cairn]

Okay because I thought you were saying you were excommunicated, which is being banned.

[rough glacier]

I see, why not find a more welcoming party then?

[vast saddle]

Idk where to find. If I don't need sleep, I will find anywhere around the world

[rough glacier]

Most people don't mind an age gap, I'm sure if you look around you'll quickly find people willing to take you in

[fossil shuttle]

#find-a-game

[vast saddle]

My real life party is really good, but one party can only play 1-2 times a month

[rough glacier]

There are many servers that post ads for adventures, even here #looking-for-players

[vast saddle]

As I said, if I don't need sleep

You people play in my sleeping time thanks to time zones

[humble cairn]

How long are you waiting before considering it "immediately ignored?"

[paper portal]

what timezone are you

[vast saddle]

UTC +7

[rough glacier]

I'm sure you can find a group playing in your timezone, also try other dnd discord servers as they also post games

[humble cairn]

that's my timezone!

[minor cargo]

I don't know all of the details of course, and I don't want to play arm chair psychologist or anything, but you had mentioned that you were experiencing a lot of emotional bleed from your online game. And as such, the DM asked you to take a break, right? (I'm assuming this is the same group you've been talking about.)

IMO, based on what you've shared, I do think a break might be best. Let things untangle a bit, drink lots of water, get more sleep, maybe even go for a few walks. Just really let things clear up a bit and then come back to the situation with fresh eyes.

[vast saddle]

Idk what real life activities I wanna do

[minor cargo]

Start with a walk. ✌️

[vast saddle]

3rd world country makes everything online

Too passionate by technology

[rough glacier]

I'm from one aswell and ik how you feel, try picking up an obscure hobby, I personally love blacksmithing

[cobalt owl]

Bro forges in his spare time

[vast saddle]

I wish the D&D community in my place would use 2024 instead of 2014

[lost flicker]

heyhey people! I'm working on a homebrew document of statblocks and i'm trying to remember the word for a book of multiple items that are similar but disconnected- I keep thinking of the word Anthology? but i'm not 100% that's correct

[rough glacier]

You can also try dming yourself after your break, I used to think I'd hate dming but it's amazing

[cobalt owl]

Respect.

[humble cairn]

Sometimes topics of conversation don't land, for various reasons. That's not always a reason to think you're being ignored and even if you are, that's not a reason to lose passion for something you like.

[cobalt owl]

Anthology is a series of 2

[humble cairn]

I mean I understand feeling dejection if you don't feel like part of a community, of course.

[rough glacier]

Not currently sadly, the forge I used to borrow closed down but I hope to continue this summer

[lost flicker]

understood- what might be the correct word then?

[minor cargo]

Anthology, compendium, appendix, ...

Hmm.

[lost flicker]

"Statblock [Blank]"

[cobalt owl]

Never mind I was wrong

[lost flicker]

Compendium might work!

[cobalt owl]

I've only seen anthology in use of series of 2, oops

[rough glacier]

Compendium?

[cobalt owl]

Compendium is the first thought

[lost flicker]

Compendium is the perfect word

thank you everyone!

[cobalt owl]

You're welcom

Your defo of Anthology was correct btw

I was wrong lol oops my bad

[hard crater]

im just wonderign , im totally new. Are there text based dnd campaigns?

[cobalt owl]

Yes there's a lot, also #dnd-newcomers

[minor cargo]

Yup! Sometimes they're called PbP or play-by-post games. Sometimes they're in a group chat, sometimes a Discord server, etc.

[west timber]

So you know what's one kinda dumb weapon think I want to do but haven't been able to. Stabbing someone through someone else with a long spear or something. I think that'd be fun as a magic item

[hard crater]

thanks

[vast saddle]

I really also cannot do voice

My English (verbally) has been getting worse

[humble cairn]

There's a magic weapon that does that, it's in a third party books, Griffon's Saddlebag 1.

[knotty vine]

just say that ray of enfeeblement was changed

[fossil shuttle]

I can't be the only one who feels like this should be what the "Piercer" feat does, right? Like, if you crit or deal a certain amount of damage, the weapon/arrow goes through them and can hit someone behind them at disadvantage or with reduced damage or something.

[vast saddle]

Idk how many of you follow WWE

But somehow...maybe some groups write their own homebrew setting like how TKO writes WWE now

[fossil shuttle]

Elaborate?

[vast saddle]

I guess you don't follow WWE

I need someone who follows WWE to explain things better

[knotty vine]

Heaven pirece her

[fossil shuttle]

Not much, I've watched a bit with my stepdad and seen clips and whatnot, but I don't keep up with it.

[rugged hawk]

Rigged performance art to steal gambler cash

[knotty vine]

Its prob so arcane archer can feel useful or something

[vast saddle]

Also....so many potential characters are underutilized

[knotty vine]

Dont tell me your gonna make a WWE character a dnd character

[vast saddle]

For the sake of their most prominent chatacters

[vast saddle]

No, I just compare how my DM groups write and run their homebrew setting to the modern WWE writing and story building

[knotty vine]

#homebrew

[dim wasp]

Does Vox Machina qualify to be here

Or noe

[rugged hawk]

This...is.... D&D Discussion!

[dim wasp]

Just watching season 3 and it's an interesting situation

[dim wasp]

So yes or no

[rugged hawk]

The answer is whatever is more inconvenient for you /s

[grizzled lance]

No its not

[dim wasp]

Oke

[viral kraken]

i thought that they were playing dnd in that show, at least for the first few seasons right?

[dire tinsel]

i like the new druid ua

Everybody gangsta till the druid

https://youtube.com/shorts/q79a-7dzWzk?si=kjSRwMMW0PKVu1P6

[dire tinsel]

season one and 2 of critical role plays dnd

i think season 3 (current campaign) is playing daggerheart?

[viral kraken]

i think that's right too

tho i don't follow critical role much (not like i wouldn't, i just haven't even finished Dimension 20 yet)

[dire tinsel]

i love playing dnd

i hate seing other people play dnd

i couldnt stand 1 episode

[viral kraken]

it's good fun. i get to run a bossfight tonight

[dire tinsel]

of the campaigns themselves

i could watch the animated series

[viral kraken]

lol i love that dm in the animated series

also love defeating tiamat at level 1 with some wooden trapdoor, what a way to start a series

[dire tinsel]

"we are level 1"
"fight tiamat"

[dim wasp]

Non conclusive please rephrase

[knotty vine]

Tiamat

[cerulean monolith]

Nope still D&D

[knotty vine]

Curse you

[viral kraken]

good to know, thank you

[ripe nimbus]

current season is also s4 i think

[fossil shuttle]

Bless you

[atomic kayak]

Yea all 4 seasons of CR use dnd

[severe rampart]

I thought season 4 was using their own system?

[atomic kayak]

Nope

[ripe nimbus]

cr’s season 1 campaign was ported from pathfinder 1e to d&d 5e when they started broadcasting it i think though

[atomic kayak]

I really don't know where that rumor came from tbh.

Outside of some speculation after it was announced, when they actually started talking about it they made it clear before it even aired that it was gonna be dnd.

[knotty vine]

I should stop telling my players if there weapon/attack do damage to the monster or not

[limber trail]

it was speculated but once it was announced it was real clear it would be DnD 5.5e

[ripe nimbus]

why?

[viral kraken]

really? i feel as though at least melee attacks should feel different when they land right then not

[severe rampart]

yeah, why?

[flint ledge]

I'm curious, why?

[fossil shuttle]

You could do what my DM does when something's resistant or immune to something, he might say something like "The [insert monster] doesn't look particularly bothered by your attack" or "You get the feeling that didn't do as much as you thought it would"

[knotty vine]

I feel like there should be a diffrent way of just "the creautre is not effect by that attack" or "its immune to that damage"

[dim wasp]

Wai

[ripe nimbus]

“your blade finds purchase in their flesh, rending muscle from bone” vs “there’s a scraping sound as your sword slides off their skin, scratching but not digging in”

[fossil shuttle]

After making an insight check, forgot about that for a moment

[severe rampart]

Wouldn't that be the study action?

[dim wasp]

I'm starting to think all younger sisters look similar in DnD lmfao

[severe rampart]

Study Action to find out more about the enemy?

[ripe nimbus]

younger sisters?

[humble cairn]

Is this a typo?

[severe rampart]

Hilarious typo

[dim wasp]

U look similar to Cassandra

[dim wasp]

(I meant it for humans)

[severe rampart]

Not a typo

[humble cairn]

I feel like mechanical things like that should just be made obvious.

[ripe nimbus]

younger sister…?

[fossil shuttle]

It could be, but considering the stuff we fight, we can't often afford to spend an action seeing if an attack worked or not, so he just has us do it after we make the attack

[ripe nimbus]

also you don’t know what i look like my pfp is a pixel cartoon

[dim wasp]

Have U watched vox machina

[ripe nimbus]

no

i’ve never watched critical role

[dim wasp]

Ok it's fine then u won't know

[severe rampart]

ominous

[humble cairn]

Do you .. think the profile picture is what the actual person looks like?

[dim wasp]

No but what their character looks like

Is what I meant

[severe rampart]

You mean their profile picture?

[humble cairn]

Not everyone uses their characters as their pic. I don't.

[minor cargo]

wwwwwwwwell lmao.

[fossil shuttle]

Then you say "your pfp looks like" not "you look like"

[gleaming lake]

Hallo

[ripe nimbus]

i mean i do have black curly hair, i chose the photo bc of that similarity.

[humble cairn]

Ok well you are exceptional!

[severe rampart]

Hey, what anime is that person from your profile from? he seems cool!

[ripe nimbus]

but it is a cartoon. that’s p different than my actual appearance.

[humble cairn]

I have yet to play a snake person.

[spring light]

welcome

[gleaming lake]

Hallo hallo :D

[severe rampart]

I see pfps from afar, so sometimes I have a hard time distinguishing what they are, I thought Ophidimancer's pfp was just green

[gleaming lake]

How we feelin today?

[ocean comet]

My royal guard npcs with their suspiciously bandit-shaped statblocks

[gleaming lake]

Good brothers and sisters?

[humble cairn]

I would also accept that.

[severe rampart]

Bored, waiting for the weekends to finally play D&D, hoping that my campaigns don't cancel

[dim wasp]

nods

[gleaming lake]

We get weekly play here?

[dim wasp]

Ya think

[severe rampart]

Nope, I mean the campaigns I'm in, but you can find campaigns in #find-a-game

[gleaming lake]

Ok thank you brother

[humble cairn]

Fairly happy, went to a fancon yesterday by last minute invite and free ticket! So that was exciting.

[gleaming lake]

Ah free ticket, must be nice

I love free

[severe rampart]

everything is better when it's free

[humble cairn]

Friend who has a sweet connection with someone who works for the company.

[gleaming lake]

Cool brother

[fossil shuttle]

Real, finally having a session after 2 weeks of nothing. Hopefully we might have our druid back after her several months of absence. Just in time for her character to find out her friend died fighting a dragon and they still need to finish killing it.

[severe rampart]

I'm in 5 campaigns, but only regularly get two sessions a week

[dim wasp]

Ngl I thought vox machina was a custom campaign until I saw the book for cal doret

Also yes ik I misspelt that horribly

[humble cairn]

Ahh .. actually I prefer not to be called by any variaton of "bro" or "brother" except by my actual sibling, if you don't mind.

[gleaming lake]

Ah no worry

[dim wasp]

But yk what I mean

[fossil shuttle]

I've only got one, 2 depending on when the CoS one starts, if we even end up doing it

[humble cairn]

It was a custom campaign and then the CritRole people got to make an official D&D product.

[gleaming lake]

Thank you for telling me

[dim wasp]

What's S3 and S4 of vox machina based off?

[dim wasp]

Niceu niceu

Explains the romance part I can't lie I don't think you'd normally see that @humble cairn

At least not between party members

[humble cairn]

Wait is there romance built into the Tal'Dorei book?

Oh you mean in Critical Role.

[gleaming lake]

@normal sequoia brother

You there?

[normal sequoia]

Yo

Im here

[gleaming lake]

You green nice

Beautiful color

[normal sequoia]

Its to match the mask

[humble cairn]

Honestly I wish more people would explore romance and emotional plots in D&D. I think there's somethign deeply unsettling about the fact that most people are so comfortable with violence and killing, but not with romance and emotions.

[mossy void]

sam e

[gleaming lake]

Make sense, but how choose color?

[severe rampart]

Perhaps it's because it's harder to be vulnerable for most

[rough basalt]

I think it's cause a lot of people have grown up on violent media but lack romance experience.

[severe rampart]

that too

[humble cairn]

Yes

[normal sequoia]

Lowkey, I don't remember

[lyric viper]

I also find it sad that a lot of people assume romance isn't 'PG'.
When every Disney movie has romance in it.

[normal sequoia]

Yeah

[lyric viper]

id:customize

[humble cairn]

That too!

[severe rampart]

id:customize

[gleaming lake]

Useful

[ripe nimbus]

roleplaying out romance is harder because you are essentially having to flirt with your DM in character and that is weird

[gleaming lake]

I'm green now :D

[ripe nimbus]

or vice versa you have to flirt with your player as DM

[lyric viper]

I think of it the same as RPing in character.

[rough basalt]

Yeah, romance and "not PG" has become sort of synonymous for a lot of people's thinking.

[ripe nimbus]

or with other players

[normal sequoia]

What if its a text campaign?

[spring light]

hey no offense to my players, but i'm not interested in flirting with any of them.

[ripe nimbus]

much, much easier

[humble cairn]

Puppy love, crushes, admiration that shades over into a bit of infatuation. All of those could be explored without it being racy at all.

[normal sequoia]

Makes things 10X easier

[lyric viper]

Your character can say and do things you might not as a player.

[severe rampart]

Still a little cringe, but managable

[normal sequoia]

Says the bard

[spring light]

Rarely RARELY i'll do some flirty stuff, but it'll be maybe a sentence or two

[ripe nimbus]

yes, but many of these things are awkward. actors have to be trained to be comfortable with stage kisses; it’s the same thing

[lyric viper]

So think of it like if this character was in a story you and someone else was writing, would these two characters make for an interesting romance?

[humble cairn]

Right, but I think it's weird that it's weirder than roleplaying killing and violence, not even to mention the gruesome stuff some players describe.

[rough basalt]

It's much easier to rip a monsters head off than it is to flirt.

[severe rampart]

The embarassment I get because of my own words deal 4d6 psychic damage to me every time

[ripe nimbus]

killing and violence are pretty impersonal and abstracted mechanically

[lyric viper]

Not saying that it's just that easy- I have been in some very awkward RP scenes involving romance. But it can help to shift the mentality surrounding it.

Make the dolls kiss.

[fossil shuttle]

My party's Aasimar cleric (son of kelemvor) is dating the Slimekin cleric (crown princess [I still don't know how that happened]), and there have been some sweet moments there, or really traumatizing ones, like when my last character died after the Slime sent him to fly after the dragon the Aasimar was currently on top of, and then his son showed up the next day

[humble cairn]

Well yes, and it is that way because of the culture from which the builders of the mechanics are steeped in.

[minor cargo]

This is an old cosplay of Blackwatch Genji from Overwatch. I think it's from like... 2018? Katsucon.

[ripe nimbus]

I mean, when romance is similarly abstracted it’s not awkward

the bard saying “I’d like to seduce the barmaid.” “okay roll a Charisma check. 21? yeah she’s into you” is not awkward

[humble cairn]

Yes, when there are concrete mechanics for it, that means there are buttons that players can press instead of having to improvise it.

[severe rampart]

Oh cool! Oh my, 2018 was 8 years ago what

[mossy void]

i agree

[spring light]

checks result
"She's not interested."

[minor cargo]

I think it's also worth pointing out that flirting isn't always a requirement for romance.

You can absolutely have a romantic scene where two characters sit in silence or act in very small but measured ways.

[severe rampart]

"ooh sorry, you needed a 30"

[lyric viper]

I actually really dislike the 'roll to seduce' concept because it generates more awkwardness and bad vibes.

[ripe nimbus]

i have a group who is better at handling sexual and romantic themes than average because our other main game is vampire of all things

[severe rampart]

Exactly!

[lyric viper]

'I'm charismatic so she must want me'

"But I rolled high!"

[ripe nimbus]

the DM calls for rolls, not players

[rough basalt]

The roll to seduce concept is part of why I'm adverse to romance at the table tbh

[severe rampart]

I particularly, as I've said before, hate the bard stereotype of them "romancing" or "seducing" every creature on the face of the earth!

[humble cairn]

I mean technically RAW, the NPC not being interested at all would just forego a roll at wll.

[spring light]

rolling to seduce or otherwise affect npc. . . ?

[severe rampart]

There are other ways of persuasion

[spring light]

if that's the case, then don't ask for a roll, yes.

[spring light]

sure there are.

[ripe nimbus]

yeah, “into you” here is more like, “egged on” etc

[humble cairn]

Yeah I was a longtime WOD player as well and that system was built to handle relationship mechanics a bit better.

[ripe nimbus]

i’m not trying to go into rules nitty gritty.

[mossy void]

fair

[spring light]

it's built around that kind of social positioning and manipulation, yes.

[rough basalt]

If I ran romance with an npc at the table I'd probably use the renown system in a way.

[humble cairn]

I ... may have a different understanding of the phrase "egged on" than you?

[ripe nimbus]

it wasn’t, really. nothing mechanical handles relationships differently there. it’s just that the game assumes you’ll be doing more of it in the fluff

[severe rampart]

What is that, if I may ask?

[ripe nimbus]

i mean “encouraged”, like, if someone’s mildly attracted to you you can encourage them to pursue that by reciprocating and expressing your own attraction tastefully

[rough basalt]

A system you can use to basically track how well known players become for good or bad which makes people like them/dislike them, give discounts, more likely to help with stuff.

[humble cairn]

I mean there were definitely mechanics to handle both internal psychological stuff and interpersonal stuff, moreso than in 5E.

[severe rampart]

ohh, reputation meter basically

[rough basalt]

Basically yeah

[mossy void]

exactly

[rough basalt]

So if you're like well known for being a hero and the npc finds the character themselves favorable then they might be interested in that kinda thing.

Or just helping the npc directly enough.

[lyric viper]

My main issue with reducing such things too much to a dice roll is that it ignores consent, which is the biggest issue of the mechanics of D&D trying to interact with romance/ affection. If it's a dice roll, consent does not feel part of it and it introduces the idea of winning/losing or set DCs in a situation where that should not apply. 'Roll to seduce' is more often than not aimed at female characters to abstract 'romance' or seduction into a predictable method where the target 'shouldn't be able to say no', because the roller succeeded at the roll. The rules say they win, they get the girl.

[ocean comet]

AC 13 is super super low for a level 5 rogue right?

[ripe nimbus]

but still, it’s not about morality of it or squickiness, it’s that most people don’t like flirting with their platonic friends and that’s essentially what you have to do to do romance in d&d most of the time. text campaigns alleviate this since they put some distance between what you’re doing and what the characters are doing

[rough basalt]

Very

[humble cairn]

But other systems like Monsterheart have mechanics that hinge directly on the interpersonal relationships between the characters. I don't know if that is something 5E needs, but ti does go to show that the mechanics do set a tone and comfort level for dealing with certain things.

[mossy void]

yes

[severe rampart]

Well said

[woven flint]

Indeed, seeing as how Dexterity is rogues main stat

[ocean comet]

Ok yeah I gotta figure out what's up with that

[sly crest]

A lot of tables have no romance/sex rules for this reason.

[severe rampart]

but persuasion isn't mind control, and that's an important thing players oughta know

[rough basalt]

I think if you want romance at the table, there's probably good third party supplements to help with it.

[ocean comet]

One player is a level 5 mastermind rogue with 14 dex and leather armor at the start but I think I gotta help them out a bit here

Oh wait their main stats are wis and cha huh

[rough basalt]

Another issue with rolls is that being the most charismatic doesn't always win the heart of someone

[severe rampart]

... first time playing DnD?

[ocean comet]

We did a tutorial, otherwise yeah

[spring light]

then functionally use that check as "consent"
Either a) they are not interested at all, so no check is needed.
b) they might be interested, but need some "good" seduction or flirting to be properly interested, so a check is needed.

[ripe nimbus]

i don’t see this as different to any other charisma (persuasion) check in the game; it’s an abstraction of how willing they are and how well you convince them, and, also, it definitely cannot be done if they just outright are definitely not willing.

[ocean comet]

I'm gonna suggest they fix that up otherwise I might help them allocate some funds towards a better light armor

[sly crest]

Exactly. Some people are into kindness, or money, or, dare I say it...big butts.

[severe rampart]

Yeah, I'd communicate to them and say that they should get that patched up 😭

Wisdom and Charisma as the Rogue's main stats?

[lyric viper]

I can get a little more behind abstracted mechanics like relationship points, but really at that point it's kinda just vibe based. You don't have to go into detail on some things just 'My PC takes (NPC) out on a date. They visit that nice bakery by the river.' or giving of gifts, or so on.

[spring light]

I'm not interested in running long term romances for my players, if they want that, they have to tell me it's happening.

[mossy void]

fair

[humble cairn]

I acknowledge that this is true, but assert that it is not something that is inherent or universal and is instead an artifact of culture and can change based on regional culture as well as the zeitgeist.

[ripe nimbus]

i think the only real consent issues with dice rolls comes in when (a) you roll to basically override another player’s free will (never ever should happen!) or (b) you’re deciding when and what your rolls are and not the DM

[spring light]

strongly feel players should not be rolling to override another player's free will.

[steel moth]

Rolling is fine as long as it is for an NPC and not another player

[humble cairn]

I don't think that playacting a romance or flirting or crushes with platonic friends is somehow "naturally" uncomfortable.

[spring light]

talk it out and have a discussion, maybe as a group decide... but we're not rolling to say "joe makes john do this."

[mossy void]

i have a useful way to navigate that issue

[sly crest]

There's a reason some people consider Enchantment to be the most evil school of magic.

[rough basalt]

With platonic friends it depends for me.

[humble cairn]

Little kids will playact being married to each other and it's just a thing they do that's fun.

[ocean comet]

It makes a lot of sense for their characters backstory, but dex does too so like I'm gonna still be figuring that out. I'm currently bringing their character sheet over to the google sheet we're using. I'm not going to force any changes but since they started with level 1 gold and stuff I'm prob just gonna bring up that they do have the money for at least studded leather lol

[rough basalt]

If it's someone I can't see romantically, it's very easy

[woven flint]

Me when I tell da homies I'm feeling romantical

[severe rampart]

They could just change to a class, and flavor their character as a stealthy criminal?

[ocean comet]

Oh god wait the melee ranger also has 13 AC I'd forgotten

[humble cairn]

That seems ill advised.

[spring light]

as a player and as a dm i am not interested in being involved in romance at the table.

[woven flint]

Chad

[severe rampart]

What's the lowest AC you can still dodge tank for the party

I think you still have to have like 15 AC at least

[ocean comet]

This isn't going to be a super combat focused campaign but still I feel that this is rough if I'm balancing combats traditionally

[spring light]

if a player wants to "get a romantic partner" and wants to roll to see if they find one, sure fine i can facilitate that.

[humble cairn]

Yeah and that's fine. I'm not saying anyone is wrong for feeling that way, I'm just saying I think it's kinda wrong that society has made us feel that way.

[severe rampart]

Blind Dating arc 😭

[ocean comet]

At level 5 yes. Like every notable balanced enemy is gonna have at least +3 to hit probably which means 50% hit min

[sly crest]

I'm not only aromantic but nonamorous (I don't do relationships) so I'm definitely not interested in that stuff either.

[rough basalt]

Yeah the game balance system expects the PCs to be functioning correctly

[lyric viper]

The romances in my games tend to be rather abstract as we just assume things are happening off screen and don't have to act out each scene. One PC ended up marrying an NPC, but it was just sort of assumed that during downtime back at the base he was spending time with her. Occasionally the player would note in his RP downtime plans things like 'Vand takes Gabrielle to the city with him when shopping. They spend their week there browsing the cafes and points of interest between them- they both really enjoy a lesser known theatre group that appeals to their shared sense of humour.'

[sly crest]

i dunno, how good are you at dodging oncoming tanks?

[spring light]

i wouldn't say society made me feel that way, more just... i'm not into excessive gore or violence, i'm not into excessive romance, i like it all rather mild in that regard

[ocean comet]

I think the artificer has the most AC out of anyone 😭

Notably, the most experienced of my players lmao

[rough basalt]

They don't have to be optimized but they do need to be made right.

[vast saddle]

How should I react when a DM said that my fear toward loud noise may hinder me from joining the DM's campaign?

I wanna feel upset, but I cannot show it clearly

[spring light]

don't join their campaign

[severe rampart]

I can safely say I've never been hit by a tank in my entire life

[ripe nimbus]

i am fine doing romance at the table as both DM and player but it’s definitely awkward and you’ve got to watch people’s boundaries

[humble cairn]

Take it as a polite and considerate warning that there is loud noise?

[spring light]

If one of my players said to me "hey, can you avoid loud noises?" I'd probably say "Sure."
Or i'd say "loud noises are a part of this campaign, you might not have fun."

[sly crest]

Valid! Nothing wrong with keeping it low-key. What do you like to roleplay, if you don't mind me asking?

[humble cairn]

If you had a fear of dogs and the DM ran games in a house full of dogs, I think it would be very fair to warn you of that.

[ocean comet]

I will say, after a few sessions I'll be allowing all my players to respec their characters slightly for a second introduciton, so I imagine they might just get the chance to learn from mistakes by then

[vast saddle]

The good news, the same DM also suggests that I should join heavy-combat campaign

[ripe nimbus]

why not let them respec now?

[severe rampart]

How good of a sport are they?

[sly crest]

that makes one of us j/k

[rough basalt]

For me it depends on what feels realistic.

[vast saddle]

My only enjoyment in D&D somehow is in combat

[ocean comet]

Oh they can if they want, but I don't know if they'll choose to

[severe rampart]

Because... you can do it the hard way

[ocean comet]

Good, we're all friends irl

[rough basalt]

I really dislike gorey horror movies that try to capture realistic gore

[spring light]

wacky zany antics. As a player I tend towards chaos gremlin.
My "beloved" character is a celebrity who adores her fans who adore her. Behaves like a cartoon character in and out of combat.

[vast saddle]

I have an extra attack now as a level 5 fighter, so I can double my enjoyment in heavy combat

[spring light]

as a dm? I like to give my players morally grey issues that they need to resolve as best they can.

[severe rampart]

why not quadruple it?

[rough basalt]

But stuff like Gears of War where it's roided up sensitive men chainsawing people to bits with a chainsaw attached to an assault rifle it's too ridiculous to bother me.

[ocean comet]

Also they won't die in session 1 unless they actively try to so that'll be a good start

(Not to say I'm going insanely easy on them, but enemies will be going for nonlethal knockouts because the main bad guys of session 1 need all the players to be not dead for legal reasons before the end of the day)

[spring light]

that's absolutely valid and a good thing to know about yourself, you said the DM invited you to a combat heavy game?

[vast saddle]

That's for level....I forgot which level provides second Extra Attack

[severe rampart]

Scimitar, Shortsword, Vex, Nick, Bonus Action Two-Weapon Fighting

[sly crest]

I like you.

[vast saddle]

She suggested it to me to do so. I should just wait for combat-heavy campaign

[ripe nimbus]

my god, i hate convoluted dual wielding builds

[vast saddle]

Does it still work in 2024?

[severe rampart]

ooh, can we get an example?

[ripe nimbus]

no reason in particular other than “this feels like too much work”

[ocean comet]

I like you, you have a good name

[severe rampart]

... Masteries are 2024, yes

[rough basalt]

2024 is what makes it work

[vast saddle]

Nice

[woven flint]

Bromamce is my favorite

I played a Dark Elf Druid who was best friends with the parties Goliath Barbarian, they were so close that they almost seemed like a couple lmao

But my Druid had a Husband and the Barbarian had a wife

My Druid was the first to figure out that his wife was pregnant one day and his character in that moment asked mine to
"be like a father to those kids if I die, Vask.."

I told him
"The day you die is when the hells freeze over!"

[rough basalt]

I've done bromance before

[ripe nimbus]

i just want to swing my big longsword in two hands

[rough basalt]

But actual romance if I had to RP would be very ridiculous

[ocean comet]

There's actually a few weird things about the rogue's sheet hmmmmm

[severe rampart]

You have to have masteries in both Scimitar and Shortsword, so you can attack four times, you'd also need Duel Wielder feat and Two Weapon Fighting (The Fighting Style)

[sly crest]

Got it from the first Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

[spring light]

In one campaign the party is grappling with a megacorp who's dominating industry and travel, yet providing tangible safety.
On the other hand there's another group who's trying to break up the megacorp and allow free travel, yet can't provide the same level of safety.

[vast saddle]

Alright. Since I just recently leveled up, I can arrange that

[woven flint]

They were always side by side in Melee during combats lol
They even kept a competitive count of how many undead they slain

[lyric viper]

A lot of my PCs just end up in queerplatonic relationships with other PCs.

[sly crest]

what level of danger are we talking about?

[spring light]

planar destruction, and keeping the roads safe

the opposing group can probably do something to mitigate planar destruction, but don't have the manpower to keep the roads safe

[sly crest]

well, if you can chase deer off the roads that takes care of that

[rough basalt]

My current two campaigns are
1 is doing Gods' Trials and being apart of a country that's broiling in a cold war so it's wilderness is very chaotic.
2 is in another country that's suffering from resource deprivation, as well as mad blood mages and dangerous criminals that wander the desert, and capture Druid/Rangers/Clerics for their resource spells. Along with the fun kind of odd people you meet in that desert too.

[lyric viper]

Like at some point we stop and realise 'So these guys are planning their future with each other in mind, living together and consider each other one of the most important relationships in each others lives? ... Good for them.'

[ocean comet]

Level 5 melee rogue with 13 ac and 28 hp

[spring light]

if only wild deer were the greatest threat

[ocean comet]

I may have to go easy on the combats

[spring light]

the infinite and the divine?

[ocean comet]

At least roleplay will be fun lmao

[rough basalt]

Least he's got some good hp

[sly crest]

I expected that answer!

[ocean comet]

That is literally the bare minimum hp without having negative constitution lmao

[rough basalt]

Oh wait.

[lyric viper]

Ah, I'm afraid I do not get the reference.

[minor cargo]

In a stream, a friend and I both decided we wanted to play husbands. So rather than try to sit there and figure out how they met, what their favourite dinner is, etc., we pulled up a mini-RPG that was full of questions.

These ones were aimed to help players understand some of the deeper parts of a relationship, like what some of the fears and wishes and tensions and joys a relationship might have.

We were guests on that stream and we played it in the "green room" for like 10 minutes. The team were actually wildly impressed by how quick we went through it and how efficient it was about getting details on the relationship. Like by the end of the 10 minutes, even the rest of the crew felt like they knew the kind of marriage we were going to play.

[rough basalt]

Yeah you might need to either help them build their PCs with the experience player, go really easy on the combat, or go normal and let them learn the hard way.

[spring light]

it's a warhammer reference. There's these 2 millions of years old guys who pretty much do that. The community joke is they're obviously in a relationship.

[severe rampart]

After the campaign they'll open up a bakery with their adopted daughter

[spring light]

in a previous game the players realized they were actually working for the baddie, who was posed as their benefactor.

[ocean comet]

They work with the more experienced player so I'm gonna just ask the more experienced player (who is our mutual friend who invited them) to take a look at the sheet if possible and maybe share some insight. I don't want to be too overbearing, and I don't want to force them to do anything too much, but I fear that it might just cause problems for balancing combats wherein some are just WAYYY better prepared for combats than others leading to unbalanced participation and potential to engage.

And also I imagine there's some unforseen problem with having the frontlines be less tanky than the artificer as well

[spring light]

rogue shouldn't be frontline?

[ocean comet]

I guess I don't actually know if they will be frontline, but the melee ranger will be and I think they are less tanky but I'm still waiting to hear back from the artificer on what their AC and HP is

[severe rampart]

My mind is battling with me, I could buy Foundry

[hollow stone]

aren't rogues' Extra Attack literally replaced by a duck and weave thing specifically to aid their diving ability?

[woven flint]

Rogues don't have Extra attack

They have sneak attack in exchange

[hollow stone]

i concur, rogues aren't supposed to frontline

[spring light]

they're supposed to get in, hit, and get out

[hollow stone]

yea, it's replaced by the bonus action disengage, dodge, and hide, because they're meant for diving

[woven flint]

"Diving"
What is this.. overwatch?

[spring light]

oh i see, my question mark was confusing.

[knotty vine]

One thing i will never understand is when people do what i call "reinveting the wheel"

[woven flint]

Skirmishing would be the term for what Rogues do lol

[knotty vine]

Aka they make homebrew thats already a rule in dnd

[spring light]

or they just reinvent pathfinder

[knotty vine]

That too

Its just like why are you using homebrew when it already exist

[woven flint]

Rogues don't HAVE to use melee at all if they don't wanna, so getting in and attacking then getting out isn't always their thing

[hollow stone]

pretty much, right? there's poke (casters), dive (rogues and some specific builds), and brawl (paladins, barbs, and fighters)

[woven flint]

No.. no, no..

[ripe nimbus]

i sometimes suspect a vast majority of 5e players don’t actually really know the rules

[flint ledge]

I mean if you use it for longer periods it's definitely worth it

[flint ledge]

Wdym suspect that's just true

[hollow stone]

also yea, i feel it's often neglected that Rogue's Sneak Attack mandates a finesse or ranged weapon

[glad arch]

what rules? /j

[ripe nimbus]

there’s a lot of times ive seen complaints that dnd doesn’t have rules for X when it has entire pages of rules for X. often in the DMG, which the same people will insist you don’t need to read because it contains no actual rules

[woven flint]

What?

I don't think it's neglected at all? Lol

[hollow stone]

i mean, of the other rogues i've encountered, too many of them don't play for sniping

[ripe nimbus]

idk, snipe, BA hide, snipe, BA hide, lather rinse repeat is p common

[woven flint]

... what?
I've seen plenty of Rogues doing ranged stuff

Of the parties I play in
3 have Rogues and they all prefer ranged combat

[spring light]

gonna depend on the groups you play with

[glossy vine]

also, it would suck playing melee rogue against sentinel/polearm master enemies

[glad arch]

how many enemies do actually have a feature like that though

[woven flint]

Luckily, enemies don't typically get feats or have things like that

[hollow stone]

many my groups fall consumed to the concept of greed and just try to eat them without regard for personal safety

[glossy vine]

They don't sure, but keeping distance with BA hide is easier than relying on BA disengage and having an ally in melee

[knotty vine]

I have a question

[spring light]

hulk smash, eh?

[woven flint]

I always say
"If you wanna go melee Rogue, just play a Monk!" Lol

[spring light]

that's what my monk says

[woven flint]

Melee Rogues are valid, don't get me wrong

[knotty vine]

lets say i have a group of monsters how does one roll for initative

[hollow stone]

you can hard counter that by just hitting BA Disengage before attacking, which is extremely silly on paper, but is entirely rules-valid

[woven flint]

But atp play a Monk

[lean wigeon]

the two types of tabletop players are Fate players and GURPS players. All players fall into these two categories

[glad arch]

officially every monster has its own initiative right

[knotty vine]

I see

[still plover]

One roll for all of them with the same modifier, that'd work. Or one per group. Individuals should roll their own.

[knotty vine]

What about saving throws?

[glossy vine]

if they are multiples of the same enemy, say a group of goblins, its fine to roll 1 initiative for them too

[spring light]

roll their saving throws

[glossy vine]

or 1 initiative for melee goblins, 1 for ranged

[glad arch]

how big a group were talking? i dont think its too difficult in most cases to roll for each

[knotty vine]

lets say 5 skeletons

[hollow stone]

i once hit a completely absurd gameplay loop where i was using my BA and Movement for Steady Aim every round with a Vex Shortbow to fire on someone who was on the other side of a small pond

[ocean comet]

Going over character sheet for kenku

Skin - Feathers.
Hair - Black Feathers.

[spring light]

birds do have skin though. . .

[ocean comet]

Not that you can see so it doesn't matter and I just thought it was really funny lol

[woven flint]

Skin: Bird Skin
Hair: Feathers

[ripe nimbus]

this sucks. this sucks because in this dichotomy i am a gurps player, but i hate gurps

[spring light]

when they ruffle their feathers you can see that pale skin underneath

[limber trail]

Hear me out; play a ranged monk

[ocean comet]

Yes but the section is made for defining features and describing how you look. Why would you put the shade of skin beneath your feathers that is only barely visible every once in a long while

[spring light]

🤷 accuracy?

[woven flint]

I'd rather die.

[sly crest]

Tbh if we see the Kenku’s skin the poor bird is going bald

[limber trail]

Damn

You aren’t committed to the bit like I am

[ripe nimbus]

one roll per group of monsters. i use the scores though

[woven flint]

Listen, when I play Monk.
I play to punch things
I don't play around with guns or ranged weapons or ANY weapons in fact

I, The Monk, AM the weapon!

[glad arch]

still there though

[limber trail]

This is a Hokrun callout post

[hollow stone]

Darts they are proficient with, and Darts are only 5CP a piece, so you can pay 1 gold for 20 Darts, which is very cost effective, i once spent 7 gold for 140 darts

[ocean comet]

I didn't even know people seriously use that section at all, it's not that serious lol

[knotty vine]

I remember reading I cant exactly remember if it was in the 2014 dmg or player hand book but if a group of monsters were to roll a save you just roll it as a group

[limber trail]

Listen I saw the gun and I knew what I had to do

[glad arch]

too bad darts also suck

[woven flint]

Hokrun is fine because he's not a typical flavor monk

[sly crest]

Skin might be appropriate for other kinds of bird, like turkey or ostrich

[sly crest]

Shurikens?

[hollow stone]

Monks being proficient with them is what saves the build, as Monks can inflict their Martial Die upon the darts

[limber trail]

He’s definitely closer to a rogue in vibes

[glad arch]

ill be honest not fully knowledgeable on how monks work so ill take your word

still feel like there would be better options though

[glossy vine]

Play the improvised weapon ranged monk, literally random bullshit go lol

[woven flint]

My Monks are all
"Walk 'em down" in vibes lol

[limber trail]

He’s funny because he started as an adaptation of one character idea I had and he’s now an adaptation of a totally different character idea I have

And he got there entirely organically through gameplay choices after character creation

[tribal night]

Playing Baldur's gate as a dark elf is so fun

[woven flint]

Sumatra, my Tabaxi Elements Monk
Is probably one of the scariest Monks I've ever played
NOTHING could stop him lol

[hollow stone]

you can forcibly overwrite the damage of a weapon Monks are proficient in with a different die, called their Martial Die

[glad arch]

aah

[woven flint]

He only used his elemental reach when he COULDN'T close the gap to you lol

[hollow stone]

they're proficient with all Simple weapons, which encompasses Darts, so you can deal Shortbow damage without a bow and 5 cent arrows

[woven flint]

He had reach, but he ain't using it!!!

[hollow stone]

"reach? yea i can reach you from 5 feet away." lmao

[woven flint]

New Elements Monk has a thing where they can extend their reach (through elements) by 10 feet

[glass granite]

How do they do short bow damage?

[woven flint]

He only ever used it running up cavern walls to punch an Ancient Black Dragon that wouldn't fight him on the ground lol

[woven flint]

Martial Arts die apply to all weapons you use as a Monk that are considered Monk weapons

[hollow stone]

Darts are 1d4 Piercing, and by inflicting your Martial Die, they become 1d6 Piercing, identical to the shortbow

[glass granite]

Only for melee weapons

Darts are ranged weapons

[hollow stone]

Martial Arts Die. You can roll 1d6 in place of the normal damage of your Unarmed Strike or Monk weapons. This die changes as you gain Monk levels, as shown in the Martial Arts column of the Monk Features table.

[glass granite]

“Your practice of martial arts gives you mastery of combat styles that use your Unarmed Strike and Monk Weapons, which are the following:

Simple Melee weapons
Martial Melee weapons that have the Light property”

Darts are simple ranged weapons, meaning monks would be proficient but they wouldn’t be able to have them as a monk weapon

[pliant sapphire]

Only with Kensei monk you can use ranged weapons as monk weapons

[humble cairn]

Ahh, the situation allowed you to kite them perfectly.

[viral kraken]

darts are thrown. not ranged

[glass granite]

They are both

[pliant sapphire]

ranged and thrown

[glass granite]

The only thrown ranged weapon

[pliant sapphire]

and finesse

[glass granite]

That too

[humble cairn]

Which means they are the only ranged weapon that can be used with Str.

[hollow stone]

the records i can see are all Simple Weapons and Martial Weapons with the Light property

[humble cairn]

That's not the definition of Monk weapons, that's the definition of weapons that monks are proficient with. The definition of "Monk Weapon" comes from their martial arts feature.

[viral kraken]

good to know, that could be really useful

[glass granite]

Is that for what classifies as a monk weapon, or what monks are proficient in?

[hollow stone]

oh i see, that's really weird but mb

[glad arch]

no dart monk after all

[glass granite]

Dw it’s a common misconception

I only know because I’ve been corrected on the same matter

Was tryna make a rope dart monk

[hollow stone]

i've used Darts on a Fighter before

[glass granite]

How’d that go

[hollow stone]

i spent 7 gold of the alternative equipment option to get 140 Darts to run with my high Strength, and it was incredibly funny to track ammo

[humble cairn]

I stil want to make my Thrown Weapons Battle Master.

[hollow stone]

it was viable, i was using them to provoke my BM Maneuvers from a range like Goading Attack to force them off my teammates or Trip Attack to prone them

[hollow stone]

Darts are by far the most cost effective for this btw, you can easily buy like 100 darts for the same price as 20 arrows

[severe rampart]

art I commissioned of my players dying finally arrived

[fast venture]

I can't find a game and it's really disheartening

I have a really fun character I wanna play as well

[hollow stone]

Darts honestly have to be my favorite weapon purely for their price, their absurd cheapness and the capacity to buy so many for so cheap gives them an air of whimsy to me that little else in this game truly has

[viral kraken]

would you call yourself a "dart frog"?

[hollow stone]

it is frog.

[fast venture]

She's a fae/spirit critter that's obsessed with human story's of valiant heros and grand adventures and upon finding a ancient blade with the soul of a old fae empress sealed in it set off to make her own stories and live out those storybook fantasies

[hollow stone]

actually, a Grung Rogue with like a billion darts sounds viable

[woven flint]

I don't have a favorite weapon in the game tbh

I kinda like Flails i guess?
That's what my Dragonborn Fighter uses

[fast venture]

Anthropomorphic hedgehog that fires out a bajillion darts when they sneeze

[woven flint]

Mace to the face!!!!

[fast venture]

Im a simple woman, longsword is always gonna be good

Halberd and rapier are close seconds

[hollow stone]

i have two favorites based off of comedy alone, my favorite weapon and my favorite monster

[fast venture]

There should be a barbarian subclass that can one hand two-handed melee weapons

[glad ferry]

Just combine polearm master with something else and you'll be set

[woven flint]

Absolutely not lol

[hollow stone]

i think that's Giant, right?

[woven flint]

No

Giant Is the subclass about throwing ANY weapon
And being big
And doing elemental damage

[fast venture]

Barbarian is already overly boring give them something fun

[remote charm]

open question, what's your favorite weapon attack combo?

[woven flint]

Barbarian isn't boring
I think you're just not embracing it enough tbh

[fast venture]

No barbarian is boring

[glad ferry]

I love barbarians. Im soon to potentially be trying the zealot one if things go right and it will change from frenzy to zealot

[fast venture]

Not a single subclass is interesting to me

[remote charm]

i homebrew my own mwehehe

[fast venture]

I would rather just use a better more interesting class and also be angry

[woven flint]

That's an opinion
I'm fine with good Ole Berserker personally sometimes

[fast venture]

Absolutely valid

[hollow stone]

Scimitar and Shortsword, the Nick + Vex combo goes crazy

[minor cargo]

I love a good ol' shield bash from the feat Shield Master into an attack on a prone opponent (requires you have an extra attack).

[fast venture]

Ah yes, the exhaustion subclass

[woven flint]

Rage isn't specifically tied to anger you know
It's a primal energy

[woven flint]

2024 doesn't have that problem. :p

[fast venture]

What im saying is I don't need to play barbarian to play a barbarian

[woven flint]

2024 Berserker kicks ass

[glad ferry]

And rage can have different conditions you and the dm set

[fast venture]

Thank God, but most dms don't use 2024

[hoary totem]

laughs in 2024

[woven flint]

I've seen a good number that do lol

[hollow stone]

i was running a "Dual Wielder" Thri Kreen BM Fighter for a oneshot, i was running a Shield, Warhammer, Scimitar and Shortsword, which enabled me to make like 4 attacks in one turn

[glad ferry]

Theres someone at my table who once in a rage doesn't come out of it and will attack allies if your to close

[severe rampart]

YES

Fighter 2, Valor Bard 6

[fast venture]

Wow I would hate playing with them, that's terrible

[woven flint]

Agreed.

[fast venture]

That's genuinely such a garbage mechanic

Outside of charm effects from a enemy you shouldn't ever be hitting your allies

[humble cairn]

Barbarians don't have to be angry, but yes you can play a type of Barbarian aesthetic as another class.

[fast venture]

Or specific rp moments and such

[fast venture]

Barbarian subclasses just have nothing going for them imo

All of them are either way too boring or a worse version of something else

[humble cairn]

Well okay you don't have to like them, but plenty of people find them fun.

[woven flint]

I will say
In my humble opinion
Although I've started appreciating Fighter recently
I still find Barbarian (and Monk) to be way more fun to play lol

[fast venture]

God forbid I discuss the flaws of the game 🙄

[glad ferry]

And any slashing bludegion or piercing gets halved when in a rage. Theres also at lvl10-12 you get relentless rage so if you were to hit 0 hit points while in a rage you can roll to see if you remain standing. DC goes up by 5 each time

[severe rampart]

I think Druid and Barbarian are the classes that I'll never play

[humble cairn]

See .. you not liking something doesn't automatically make it flawed?

[fast venture]

Monk also has the "it's cool, but this class does it better" issue

[glad ferry]

Theres all classes we dont like

[fast venture]

No see, I don't like bard but I think it's fine

Barbarian just exists to be a braindead meat wall

[woven flint]

That's a take, even for 2014 Monk

2024 Monk is like.. defacto the strongest martial up until later tiers.

[humble cairn]

Actually there's plenty that mechanically is way easier with Monk and can't really be done that well with other classes.

[severe rampart]

I dislike Barbarian, but this is just slander

[glad ferry]

Personally im not a fan of fighter

[severe rampart]

perhaps it's the players that you were with?

[fast venture]

I haven't looked at new monk so....fair I guess

[fast venture]

They are just worse fighter and paladin

Objectively

[glad ferry]

The monks can negate so much damage especially witht the defensive stat

[severe rampart]

I've had this player who was roleplaying this barbarian as "I eat book.", and that really got me disinterested in barbarian

[woven flint]

2024 made all the martials feel way better to play imo

I've played each of them with the new rules

[glass granite]

Based off what metric?

[glad ferry]

Barbarians can be smart. Not all are dumb

[woven flint]

(And the old ones too lol)

[fast venture]

I still think weapon arts would make the martials feel way more fun in terms of variety

[severe rampart]

Not objectively

[humble cairn]

Once people start saying their opinion about how good/bad a class is "objective" it's griefing.

[knotty vine]

The designers for the 2024 rules said that you can cast buff spells on your allies with the war caster feat

[glass granite]

Eh, depending on the metric.

[rugged hawk]

Wise*, depending.

[fast venture]

Damage output and variety in gameplay

[woven flint]

Weapon Masteries exist in 2024
Its not EXACTLY weapon arts, but it helps greatly

[glass granite]

Monks are objectively worse than fighters. At weapon fighting with great swords.

[fast venture]

I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE

The only category barbarian wins in, is sheer HP and resistance to dying

[glass granite]

Damage output is exceeds fighters at lower levels, but yes they have quite a one dimensional playstyle

[glad ferry]

And with barbarians depending on how you set them up theres reckless attack which gives you and enemies agaisnt you advantage, and you can negate that advantage to a normal roll with great weapon master to deal an extra 10 damage on top of everything

[woven flint]

I dunno, I've played plenty of Barbarians and they've consistently beat the breaks off of most things they've fought lol

[glad arch]

damn 2024 barbarians actually look fun to play. well done wotc

[glass granite]

Heck a berserker barbarian (2024) is absolutely destroying my encounters in my game

[fast venture]

Keep in mind, I'm not talking about 2024 rules

I don't have experience there

[glass granite]

I can’t speak for 2014 then, never played it

[glad arch]

check out the free rules for barbarian. honestly its a big improvement

[glad ferry]

I hsvnt used the 2024 one. Only the 2014

[woven flint]

Even then
2014 Barbarian is a menace at lower levels.
I do agree that they lack I higher levels though

[fast venture]

I like 2024 more from what I've seen but it also seems WAY easier

And 5e is already a joke

[knotty vine]

2024 made monsters more powerful

[glass granite]

The monsters in 2024 got buffed iirc

[fast venture]

Did they? Thank god

[knotty vine]

Yeah

[woven flint]

That's a common misconception, monsters are scarier.

[fast venture]

I'm sick of every build I make breaking the game

It's boring

I like being challenged

[woven flint]

Then play 2024 lol

[fast venture]

I really love archfey changes

It looks so so fun

[knotty vine]

I still want baba yaga as a statblock

[glass granite]

I do recommend 2024 tbf, especially the new monk

[woven flint]

(Also, for the record, unless it's reprinted, 2014 subclasses are compatible with 2024 classes)

[fast venture]

Plus blade pact being better and stuff

[woven flint]

Pact Boons are now eldritch invocations so you can choose more than one now

[fast venture]

And the spell changes, like true strike actually having a reason to exist

[simple needle]

Hey Guys, i am Ruby and 24 looking for dnd friends to discuss about it. If anyone is interested dm me

[fast venture]

....

[knotty vine]

huh?'

[fast venture]

That's sus

That's mad sus

[glass granite]

I mean there are hundreds of thousands of people to chat here

[fast venture]

Succubus behavior, do NOT go with her

[glass granite]

Maybe not all online at once, but still

[simple needle]

No i am new to it so i have to learn that 😓😓

[humble cairn]

Please don't share your age, that's against server rules for everyone's safety. FYI you can edit your posts.

[severe rampart]

Baba Lysaga?

[fast venture]

But yeah I wanna find a game

[knotty vine]

The mother of all witches

[fast venture]

granted my character idea is gonna make that hard

[glass granite]

you can check out #find-a-game for information on how to find a group online. To make a post, type the appropriate command in any chat channel. There’s also DnD beyond forums, reddit or roll 20.

[knotty vine]

My mother

[simple needle]

Okay thanks!

[humble cairn]

Don't you want to have a Session 0 before coming up with a fully fleshed out character idea?

[woven flint]

I want a 5.5e Updated version of the 2e Domain of Dread lord
Draga Salt-Biter
He's a Wereshark Cleric of Umberlee 😔

[fast venture]

I just have a character idea I really liked the idea of

Lore is flexible

[knotty vine]

Sorcerer king warlock sounded cool

[woven flint]

Draga is my GOAT, I love him

[fast venture]

The main thing is the character design/race

[glad ferry]

I really like the yuan ti class

[severe rampart]

... Class?

[knotty vine]

I still think its funny that the max size for a medium creature is like 8ft tall

[glad ferry]

Race

[severe rampart]

Of course, my favorite subclass of Yuan Ti is the King Cobra

[woven flint]

I feel bad for him though
He was kidnapped by pirates as a kid and they'd relentless torment him by shark-baiting (they'd throw him in shark infested waters with a rope around his legs and only pull him away when the sharks were inches away 😭)

[glad ferry]

Sorry l
Wrong term came to mind

I mean his fear would go away eventually and just accept he may die. Horrible though

[knotty vine]

whats the smallest medium creature

[glad ferry]

I have no idea

The one class I have the hardest time understanding is the warlock

[knotty vine]

same here

[glad arch]

i wanna say dwarf

if were purely talking height

[woven flint]

I want more Domain of Dread lords updated to 5e to give a shit about
Where's Arijani? Hazlik? Draga Salt-Biter? Azalin Rex?
I need them NOW!!!

[knotty vine]

One thing that really makes me wanna "run for the hills" is when people say faires are tiny when they ARENT

those are PIXES not fairy

[glad arch]

should be though

[knotty vine]

Its like confusing Demons and Devils

[knotty vine]

Fairies are a wee folk, but not nearly as much so as their pixie and sprite friends

Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse

[severe rampart]

It is very strange that fairies are basically halflings with wings

[knotty vine]

Infused with the magic of the Feywild, most fairies look like Small elves with insectile wings

[severe rampart]

I love halflings

mmm Halfling Luck...

[fast venture]

Why must it be so hard to find a good group

[woven flint]

Well, Small is just the amount of Area a creature controls
Small creatures control the same amount of area (a singular square) as medium creatures
You could totally flavor your fairy as tiny, but they control space as Small instead of tiny

[knotty vine]

They are diffrent from the player race fairy

[fast venture]

I got invited for one and all the world info was clearly written by chat gpt

I immediately left

[knotty vine]

just like how the player race minotaur is a fey rather then a monster

[woven flint]

.. that's wrong?

[knotty vine]

One of them is a fey

[woven flint]

You mean Centaur, not Minotaur

[knotty vine]

was it centaur..?

[woven flint]

Yes. :]

[fast venture]

It's one thing to use AI for refs because not everyone has the skill to draw or the money for commissions, it's another to have it write for you, like why are you playing DND and especially trying to be a DM at that point

[knotty vine]

Could have sworn one monster race was changed to fey for the PCS

[hot reef]

The question is why they didn’t use a preexisting setting

[fast venture]

I personally don't like preexisting settings for dnd

[knotty vine]

What?

[fast venture]

Cause the lore is less flexible

[woven flint]

Nope

Minotaurs were monstrosities but were changed to humanoids for PCs

[fast venture]

Is this directed at me?

If so, why?

[knotty vine]

Im i tripping

[viral kraken]

same here

makes the game more about studying than creating sometimes

[knotty vine]

IT WAS CHANGED

i knew i wasnt going crazy

Minotaur were once fey in MM but it was changed to humanoid

Wrong place

[remote charm]

wrong place bub

[viral kraken]

#find-a-game

[knotty vine]

Egg

[glad ferry]

I love writing lore and world building. Its so much fun

The research and learning portions is really nice

[remote charm]

Currently scripting, i hope to play this soon

[glad ferry]

I do the same thing when charactrt building especially when I dont know much about the race or classes

[knotty vine]

The mods are sleeping i guess

[viral kraken]

no thay just have to clean it from every channel

because it is all over the place

[woven flint]

Egg.

[knotty vine]

Ah

[glad ferry]

Clean ehat from the channel?

[woven flint]

Centaur*

[knotty vine]

No it was the minotaur

[viral kraken]

it's gone now, no worries, was just spam and in the wrong channel

[knotty vine]

As of Monsters of the Multiverse, Minotaurs have a trait giving them the Humanoid creature type.
Minotaurs were reworked in Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse. The playable race now has the racial trait:

As a minotaur, you have the following racial traits.

Creature Type. You are a Humanoid.

[glad ferry]

When it comes to spell users I really like the bard if you know your reaching higher levels. You get access to spells from multiple classes without having to have a spellbook

[woven flint]

I'm gonna keep gaslighting

[knotty vine]

It was fey at one point i knew it

[glad ferry]

Only reason I dont want to run a centuar as a player is its body type would make a lot of places difficult

[knotty vine]

I think centaurs are the main reason dnd 5e almost never goes outside of the human body type

[fast venture]

Gaslight gatekeep girlboss

[knotty vine]

I guess plasmoid too

[shy sparrow]

Hi

[knotty vine]

since blob

[fast venture]

That's the slime right?

[woven flint]

No.
This is just incorrect
Minotaur were NEVER fey.
It's Centaurs that we're monstrosities turned fey.

[knotty vine]

Minotaur were FEY

[shy sparrow]

Whats going on now

[woven flint]

You, just earlier, were getting Minotaurs and Centaurs confused

[knotty vine]

No the two confused

[woven flint]

Minotaurs weren't fey.
Centaurs were

[knotty vine]

centuars still ARE

[viral kraken]

not much, i get to run some dnd for my table later, i'm excited

[woven flint]

Centaurs still are, yes
But Minotaurs never WERE

[shy sparrow]

Ok cool

[fast venture]

I can't find a group ;-;

[elder holly]

If you are facing an issue in finding a good map, why don't you commission an artist?

[viral kraken]

did you try the looking for game channels?

[fast venture]

points at the economy

[knotty vine]

Money

[viral kraken]

#dnd-maps has pinned messages with mapmaking software

[knotty vine]

D&D can be such an costly hobby sometimes

[fast venture]

Yeah but nothing yet

[shy sparrow]

Has anyone here used a wendigo in their campaign (I'm considering it)

[elder holly]

Ahhh, that's the issue

[fast venture]

Most of the games posted also just have no info

Or requires a pc

[knotty vine]

No cause they would be too easy to sniff out/find

[shy sparrow]

How

?

[knotty vine]

Unless the public just isnt aware of there existance

[woven flint]

You could literally say the SAME thing about ANY monster

[knotty vine]

ONE word divination

[woven flint]

That point Is rather moot.

[fast venture]

Throw me to the wendigos and I'll come back- actually I shouldn't say that here

[knotty vine]

Yeah but depending on creature type a "wendagoon" would just be a either a buffed up or maybe waterdown werewolf

[severe rampart]

No,no, I get it

I mean I don't get it, but I get it

[shy sparrow]

Wendagoon and wendigos are different

[knotty vine]

Mainly cause wendigos eat only humans/humamoids

So they would be hunted down First

[fast venture]

Monster girls 😊

[glad ferry]

Look around on Facebook, here, or even some game stores have groups. Though those ones usually involve pay per session

[knotty vine]

That was more of a joke on how weak a wendigo would be compared to dnd but go on

[fast venture]

I think pay campaigns are uh

Wrong

[feral fulcrum]

They're fine.

[knotty vine]

The wendigo when he sees the fighter attack him 6 times:

[feral fulcrum]

People are allowed to make a career out of DMing proffesionally

[severe rampart]

Don't like 'em? No one's forcing you to play in them

[feral fulcrum]

It's like, not Morally Wrong to pay for your hobby.

[fast venture]

Idk it just doesn't feel like DND to me at that point

[woven flint]

That's like saying making money from writing a book is wrong?

"Why pay to look at letters when I can write my own book?"

[fast venture]

I wouldn't feel comfortable at a table like that

[glass granite]

That’s reasonable

[fast venture]

But for me I seek friendship through dnd

So that's probably why

[idle oar]

Paid games are just another way to play. But totally understand the “but this is a game I like playing with my friends not for pay”

[severe rampart]

Yeah, but like, again, you're not at the table, it's not objectively wrong

[jolly canyon]

People can have their opinions on paid games as long as no one looks down on those who do. Urizt is a fantastic DM and his players I'm sure are extremely happy with their purchase.

[lavish flame]

I don't think this would seriously shift allocation of resources. So much stuff basically just eats people, I figure this is barely different than like a Ghoul.

[glad ferry]

Can still have friendship. For some who dm professionally it can be their source of income or something on the side to help them out

[woven flint]

You can still be friends with a dm and players in a paid game..?

[spring orchid]

hello

[knotty vine]

Thats why i mean it either be a big issue or a none issue

[maiden jetty]

@winnieadams00 what s the difference between a paid game and a normal one?

[knotty vine]

Dnd already has all sorts of crypits and such

[woven flint]

Just because you pay to play in someone's game doesn't make it completely disingenuous

[minor cargo]

I can understand the feeling.

But a lot of hobbies can also be like this. Like if you love to cook, you might charge people when you make food for them. You may or may not be friends in those situations.

You might love to make music, and you might charge people who come to listen. Again, you may or may not be friends in those situations either.

And a lot could be impacting those scenarios.

I'm not saying that to try to convince you that you're wrong or anything, but hoping those examples might be at least a little interesting? And maybe give a fresh POV. ✌️

[fast venture]

Dude no I wouldn't be able to connect in that environment

[ashen kelp]

"Which kind of monsters can I eat in this dungeon?"

-Some Paladin

[fast venture]

It to me feels completely different

[knotty vine]

I still think its weird that False Hyrdas arent a real thing

[feral fulcrum]

I mean it's self evident is it not? One you pay for, one you don't.

[fast venture]

Most people in my experience can't run them very well

[knotty vine]

I pay to play games and im still able to find friends through that game

[maiden jetty]

Yeah you genius I m asking about the difference between them

[knotty vine]

D&D is just another one of those games

[feral fulcrum]

There's not really any inherent difference beyond one requiring payment.

[fast venture]

I would be in my mind the entire time thinking it's not real and is just about money

[severe rampart]

... that's it, that's the difference

[woven flint]

False Hydras are overrated

[steel moth]

would never pay to play dnd

[fast venture]

I also just don't have the money to put down for any hobbies

[severe rampart]

there's no guranteed quality or anything, a free game could still be amazingly good, and a paid game could be... less than ideal, that's why you've gotta check out their games first before paying

[jolly canyon]

I would but not anytime soon

[knotty vine]

True

[maiden jetty]

But than like the dm is getting paid for the game while the other one isn’t yet there is no difference in the experience or complexity?

[knotty vine]

Ive put down a ton of money for dnd in general

[fast venture]

I'm not gonna go into my life situation but I don't have the means to do so

[feral fulcrum]

And like, 90% of the time not what anyone in the Table is looking for.

[severe rampart]

With how weak my currency is, yeah nah I'm not setting down 900 pesos for one session, and that's fine, no one's forcing me to play

[glad ferry]

Plus the books and the time it takes to write a campaign is no small feat. Building it around players. Dm had to balance players and the story while managing many npc snd storylines. Prep for main quest side quest whatever the players may try. Plans and contingency plans or just going off the rails and going with it

[maiden jetty]

Fair enough thnks for the info

[woven flint]

Laid down all my dough, now I ain't got no bread 😔

[jolly canyon]

Your good Luna even if you had money you have the right to have your opinion on paid games

[feral fulcrum]

Sudden Psychological Horror Heel Turn is not something most groups would enjoy.

[knotty vine]

Understandable!

[minor cargo]

I think not being able at the moment to budget to pay for D&D and saying things like "it doesn't feel like D&D at that point" are two different things, and probably shouldn't be confused for one another. ✌️

[glad ferry]

Some dont have the money for paid tables and that's alright

[severe rampart]

Yeah, still imo, doesn't give the right to say objectively that "Paid games are wrong"

[fast venture]

Oh I love that kinda thing, it's just handled so badly 9/10 times

[glad ferry]

I know a few who would enjoy psychological horror type

[woven flint]

There's a free version of your favorite hobbies
And then there's the paid version
It sucks but it's true 😭

[knotty vine]

The paid version is more often then not better

[glad ferry]

Either can be better whoever is running it

[jolly canyon]

Same issue I had with the last person who said "fools errand" I don't like the wording people use. Just trying to keep the peace

[knotty vine]

It makes me wanna cry

[feral fulcrum]

I don't like Paid games either, but that's a purely personal thing. I feel like it invites easy bad vibes. In a free game "Oh last week kind of sucked, but whatever, this week is past the rough spot." Whereas paid can easily develop into "I paid 50 bucks for that crap?"

[severe rampart]

I like peace

[knotty vine]

paying 50$ for a game sounds crazy

[jolly canyon]

Urtzi is not a fool! He's the goat!

[knotty vine]

and most paid dnd games are a game by game baises

[glad ferry]

The goat is often the one who is last standing when they really shouldn't be

[severe rampart]

I've never seen Urizt DM before, though I do know the channel, I've never sat down and watched

[glad arch]

For 50 a game i would expect some good quality stuff

[jolly canyon]

Idk anything either about his dming but he's answer many of my questions and I appreciate it

[knotty vine]

I would watch If they server didnt hate me for whatever reason

[severe rampart]

They better bring out a real dragon /j

[knotty vine]

Everytime i try to join i get "oh its you"

[glad arch]

Wild 💀

[fast venture]

BABY LEAFEON AWWWWWWWW

[spring orchid]

what did you do to make them haye you

[minor cargo]

I get that, but also, sometimes I pay for movies that I really don't like. Sometimes I pay for food I really don't like. Sometimes I pay for music or video games or whatever that I really don't like. Sometimes that's life. You live and learn.

[knotty vine]

You get used to it

[fast venture]

It's so cute!!!!!!

[woven flint]

Weird and random question:
If one of your current characters were to die, what would you replace them with?
What were their class and what would your replacement fir them be? 🤔

[remote charm]

paid games in theory make sense, but in practice they tend to be nervous and set strange, strict expectations...

[severe rampart]

Fighter 2 Valor Bard 6 Human, Replacement for Lore Bard 8

[woven flint]

I think if my Dragonborn Fighter died
I'd either replace him with a Paladin or a Barbarian

[glad arch]

I cant imagine the kinda stuff someones gotta do to get a reaction like that

[fast venture]

I'm not in a campaign so I can't answer that -w-

[remote charm]

I'd completely randomizer a character to join

[severe rampart]

I can't get the Nuzlocke DnD Idea out of my head

[knotty vine]

I guess it was when someone picked a class I didnt know other person picked said class and i asked if i could be that class so they just didnt like me from then point onwards

[glad arch]

My characters sister and a cleric

[fast venture]

........w h a t

[knotty vine]

So now im forever hated in that server

[remote charm]

roll or class, background, species, etc

[woven flint]

I've got replacement ideas for most of my characters lol

[fast venture]

Why would you do that

[knotty vine]

Not that I talk/chat in that server

[glad ferry]

Its always made me laugh when theres a character that somehow never dies even though they should with what's happened

[lyric viper]

My favourite PC was a random generated PC, down to alignment, background and gender

[remote charm]

in my personal games ofc

[fast venture]

I always deeply plan my characters so that just

[severe rampart]

That... is very brave!

[glad arch]

It does sound like something that could work. Just go with the flow

[glad ferry]

Where do you get that kind of randomizer?

[fast venture]

Genuinely made me recoil

[severe rampart]

there are tables for that

[remote charm]

there are spin the wheel randomizers for 5e

[lyric viper]

Honestly this is one best to do slow and with a DM

[jolly canyon]

I have only 1 pc(first pc and only pc ever) If he dies I uhh not sure what I'll replace him with

[glad arch]

Adept yourself to the character rather than adapying a character to yourself

[knotty vine]

the new quick builder also allows you to as well

[woven flint]

Let's see, I have
Dragonborn Battlemaster Fighter
Drow Celestial Warlock
Bugbear Gloomstalker Ranger
Tortle Knowledge Cleric
Firbolg Moon Bard
Warforged Dog & Hound Pugilist
And
Air Genasi Forge Adept Artificer

[knotty vine]

Its how i got the idea for my warforged sorcerer

[severe rampart]

"Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo, or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest?"

[spring orchid]

I am new to DND so i do not know
how that little thing made them hate you
i mean i kinda get it but still
crazy

[lyric viper]

I did make a randomizer in excel that randomised everything but... it took the discovery out of it. One thing I loved about randomisation was it removed choice paralysis and you could but the idea together as you rolled.

[feral fulcrum]

I'd probably roll with one of the eternal ideas that have been rattling around in my noddle, An Artificer Battlesmith/Arcane Archer knockoff of Chaika (Magic Rifle firing Spells is neato), or an Eladrin Undead Warlock. But my current Wizard dying and not getting revived would probably kill the entire campaign.

[knotty vine]

Some people hold grudes I think its better to let them hate and move on

[glad arch]

You can also just get a random number generator. 13 classes random number 1-13, do the same for species, sub class, ext

[woven flint]

... I feel like I'm missing something 🤔

[spring orchid]

That is fair

[knotty vine]

You cant please everyone in life as they say

[fast venture]

Ngl I just use custom lineage most of the time