dnd-discussion

[cobalt owl]

Which is not a useless benefit

[knotty vine]

True but that’s only from the spell book

[cobalt owl]

Which is still not nothing

[humble cairn]

And that's their intended niche, pretty sure.

Being able to access all your ritual spells, even if not prepared, gives them a lot of variety all at once.

[light minnow]

Hello

How's everyone

[errant crag]

I'm alright

I feel like Wizard really benefits from your DM giving you more spells

One of their biggest strengths is the ability to find new spells in the world through scrolls and spellbooks

[cobalt owl]

Wizard does shine when you actually get scrolls

If your DM is stingy you may as well play a different class

[errant crag]

One of my GoS players was a Wizard Bard and he found 3 NPC/enemy wizards' spell books and it gave him a consistent thing to work towards and save his money for

Each of them having a small handful of spells for him work towards learning and using '

As a wizard can't just use another wizard's spellbook they gotta copy it into their own

While sorcerers are kinda stuck with whatever spells they choose

[knotty vine]

Thats is true

[humble cairn]

I dunno, even without that you still learn at least two new spells every level, that's a lot more spells than other classes get.

[knotty vine]

that is true

[cobalt owl]

You're not getting the opportunity to take advantage of a core wizard feature.

[errant crag]

I would rather have a 20th level wizard in my party than a 20th level sorcerer if i had to choose between the two

[humble cairn]

But you're saving money, lol

[knotty vine]

Also true

[cobalt owl]

Gee that sure is a benefit why thank you benevolent stingy DM

Because thats TOTALLY what I care about

[errant crag]

When I play a wizard, finding scrolls and spellbooks is a part of the experience I look forward to

[cobalt owl]

/s to be very clear, because I am being sarcastic

[knotty vine]

Think id rather have a level 20 sorcerer in my party due to overall higher damage

[errant crag]

At 20th level you can do much stronger things than damage tbh

[humble cairn]

But like I said, even if you never find any scrolls, you're still adding two spells to your book every level. Not everytime you get a higher number on your "spells known" list, every level.

[knotty vine]

Like what?

2024 is kinda all about damage now ngl

[humble cairn]

It is not?

[knotty vine]

Most of the really broken stuff got patched out

[errant crag]

I feel like that's a fairly narrow perspective to look at it with

[cobalt owl]

I still think if your DM doesn't give you the opportunities to add spells via scrolls/spellbooks you're better off playing another class

[knotty vine]

stares at the lack of anything to do with roleplay

[humble cairn]

I mean you still have the ability to do stuff like shift planes of existence, learn things no one else knows, transform people into other creatures or even objects.

[errant crag]

My table has no problem roleplaying with 2024 content

[humble cairn]

And I don't agree.

[cobalt owl]

If you're not able to take advantage of a feature or use it at all, you may as well not have it.

[errant crag]

I could have a room of clone vats that I pheonix protocol into if my wizard dies

[knotty vine]

Not what i said

[cobalt owl]

We have a fundamental disagreement then I guess

[errant crag]

I could create a simulacrum of myself

[knotty vine]

Simulacrum is just an illusioln not a real you

It also can be just dispelled

1500 gold wasted

[errant crag]

Its a copy of me it duplicates my character basically

If i'm a 20th level Wizard its a second 20th level wizard

With its own action economy

[knotty vine]

Still has half the hp of a level 20 wizard and again dispell magic

[errant crag]

It just has half my hitpoints and is a construct

[humble cairn]

Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion by itself is so nice, useful, and flavorful.

[errant crag]

Counterspell

And then if it tries it again my simulacrum counterspells it

[knotty vine]

Counterspell is worthless in 2024 🗣️

[errant crag]

Because its a second 20th level wizard with its own spell list and its own reaction

[viral kraken]

i mean they would probably need to roll a 13 or higher to dispel it, that's not a 100%% dispel chance. if they upcast the dispel to level 7 they can for sure get ot tho

[knotty vine]

mainly cause monsters can just muscle through it now

[lyric viper]

I much prefer the 2024 counter spell as a dm

[undone rain]

We're having a oneshot tomorrow and i am scared

We will be level 17

[cobalt owl]

I solved all my problems with 24 counterspell by making it a second level spell /jk /srs

[humble cairn]

The Sequester spell, not a damaging spell at all, but really neat for setting up things or for protecting a target you need protected. Very Sleeping Beauty.

[knotty vine]

IS MMM even from 2024?

[errant crag]

I think 2024 Coutnerspell is more fun and better balanced overall in 2024 for both sides

[knotty vine]

Its ight but again a lot of spell casting to just muscle through it

[cobalt owl]

Laughs in legendary resistance

[knotty vine]

Con is a common saving throw

like the lich having a +10 to con

[errant crag]

But I certainly disagree with Simulacrum being worthless it creates a second wizard capable of casting 7th level spells at least, and unless your DM is being very stingy then 1500 Gold is not much for a wizard of that level.

[lyric viper]

Yeah it was frustrating as a dm or even a player to have an entire turn noped by a single reaction. Often with a lower spell slot, and also wasting a resource on a skipped turn.

[humble cairn]

If you're talking Magnificent Mansion, yes. If you're talking Mordenkainin Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse, no but it's still legal to use.

[cobalt owl]

My problem fundamentally is just its a save now

[knotty vine]

not saying that its worthless it can just be outdone by a 3rd level spell

[cobalt owl]

That is just how the game goes sometimes

[errant crag]

Which can be counterspelled

[humble cairn]

New Counterspell is better for the game overall.

[knotty vine]

Again Con saves prof is very common thing in 2024

Theres also magic resistance

[cobalt owl]

Con save prevalence from experience is also higher

Resilient con is a boring but very practical choice

[viral kraken]

why on earth would you cast simulacrum while in combat? it takes 12 hours to cast, they'll be dead before they finish

[humble cairn]

Abnegation of stuff is rarely fun gameplay, especially used against player characters.

[errant crag]

I mean saying Simulacrum is worthtless because of Dispel magic would imply that any spell that can be Dispelled is worthless

[knotty vine]

12 hours and 1500 gold

[errant crag]

That's not a lot of gold

[knotty vine]

you also need to get that componet as well

[cobalt owl]

These really are just the sorts of things that come up in gameplay from time to time whether you like it or not

[errant crag]

If thats a lot at that level I would be having a chat with my DM because its not for that level

[cobalt owl]

Dispel magic is a 2 way street

[viral kraken]

ya that's not getting counterspelled, that is being cast in your lair, and if someone who wants to stop you is in counterspell range, you already were not going to finish casting it as they could just apply damage to the face

[knotty vine]

Not every street vender just has a (powdered ruby worth 1500+ gp

[errant crag]

Maybe if your DM is really against helping you get spell components that you want to get

[cobalt owl]

According to the DMG 75% of them will! /s

[knotty vine]

simi also notabley cant take short or long rest

[errant crag]

If I told my DM I wanted to try and get a spell component they'd probably help me get it somehow

[knotty vine]

Not a worthless spell but over all kinda A or B tier

[errant crag]

That's still 17 spell slots of varying levels for it to work with its just not a weak affect

Simulacrum is simply not a weak spell it creates a second wizard with 17 spell slots of varying levels and the spell list of a 13th level wizard at least

[knotty vine]

it can also just be PWK

[errant crag]

Any character in the party can be PWKed that doesn't make them worthless

[humble cairn]

Nice! Enemy wasted a PWK on a Simulacrum.

[errant crag]

The possiblity of something failing does not beget worthlessness

[knotty vine]

61 hp isnt alot

i guess it can get in there and do what it needs to through

[cobalt owl]

I think PWK is a cringe spell

[viral kraken]

oh?

[knotty vine]

its a mid spell

[cobalt owl]

Maybe a hot take, but I do think its cringe

[viral kraken]

how so?

[cobalt owl]

Its not a very interesting spell

[viral kraken]

ya that's true

[cobalt owl]

Its a "hi, die"

[knotty vine]

power word stun

[errant crag]

Its a 9th level spell that just kills somebody its whatever

[cobalt owl]

I'd rather smack someone with a disintegrate

[knotty vine]

8th level and stuns someone at 150

stunned is also very annoying to get rid of

but 24 did make it less opressive through

[still plover]

You dunk on PWK because it lacks rizz?

[cobalt owl]

It always had 0 rizz

[lyric viper]

While I agree to a certain extent I also agree with the stance that game design should avoid things that essentially remove someone from the game or make a turn worthless for some. D&D unfortunately still has a few of these elements but 5e has tried to reduce them. Counter spell is an interesting one because it was a lot harder to pull off in earlier editions. So the simplification seemed player friendly but then went the other way a bit too much.

[knotty vine]

I just think theres better thinks you can do as a wizard besides simi

like Forge cage

[cobalt owl]

Forcecage is cool

[errant crag]

Yeah but if I have a Simulacrum i could force cage and then my Simulacrum could cast sickening radiance or some such

[still plover]

You kill a man with a word!

[knotty vine]

Animal shapes was nerfed to the ground

Granted it kinda needed to be

[cobalt owl]

Two things can be true at the same time. I agree on both points, but at certain points I think an acknowledgement that things like "haha get stunned fool" being a possibility should just be on the table.

[knotty vine]

i prefer RG

[cobalt owl]

I also think a third statement in that I disagree in their method of attempting to alleviate that situation

[viral kraken]

why force cage instead of wall of force?

[cobalt owl]

Forcecage is harder to get out of

[viral kraken]

the duration?

[errant crag]

I am a Wall of Force enjoyer

[knotty vine]

against a creature that isnt immune to the posioned condtion Contagion + the viper spell can incap someone for an hour

[knotty vine]

you can teleport out of wall of force

[viral kraken]

is that super common for monsters at high level?

[cobalt owl]

Yes

[viral kraken]

good to know!

[cobalt owl]

Teleportation go brrr

[knotty vine]

lots of monsters have teleports at higher levels yes

or its just too big for wall of force

[cobalt owl]

Its also usually a legendary action if they have the ability

[errant crag]

Are we talking about an actual adventure context or DM cherry picking creatures that counter spellcasters in a white room scenario kinda context

[viral kraken]

there's nothing too big for wall of force, no matter what size just put it in the dome

[knotty vine]

If its too big for the dome it just wont fit

[viral kraken]

you mean as a dm that's how you'd rule it? because it sure can put them inside no matter how large they are.

[cobalt owl]

10 foot radius

[knotty vine]

Generally, no, a standard 10-foot radius Wall of Force dome cannot fit a typical Gargantuan creature, which occupies a 20x20 foot space or larger

Too big

[viral kraken]

ya raw you can put it on the inside of the wall

[cobalt owl]

It'll fit huge, but gargantuan is cutting it

[knotty vine]

How?

[cobalt owl]

A 10 foot radius is smaller than a 20x20 square

[knotty vine]

Its legit bigger the wall of force 😭

[viral kraken]

by casting wall of force that it is at least partially in the area of

[cobalt owl]

Wall of force would not work

[knotty vine]

10 foot radius vs 20x20

i wonder what the math would be there

[viral kraken]

it would certainly work RaW, which is why i asked if that was their dm fiat

[cobalt owl]

Its just area

[knotty vine]

Forced Placement: If the wall cuts through a creature's space when cast, the creature is pushed to one side. If the creature cannot fit, it will be pushed outside the bubble.

It wont fit RAW

Just like how a creture can be too big for force cage

[viral kraken]

i do not see that in 2024, is that from 2014?

[cobalt owl]

Its just area. So you'd be comparing an area from 314 square feet to 400 square feet

If the wall cuts through a creature's space when it appears, the creature is pushed to one side of the wall (you choose which side).

[errant crag]

A creature can fit into a space sized for one size category smaller with the squeezing rules

2024 Says "If the wall cuts through a creature's space when it appears, the creature is pushed to one side of the wall (you choose which side)."

[knotty vine]

Its in the first thing of the spelll wdym

[cobalt owl]

Bottom of the first paragraph

[knotty vine]

So RAW it would just be spit out

[viral kraken]

2024 doesn't have sqeezing rules and in 2014 that was just for willingly entering a space

[viral kraken]

i'm looking at wall of force (2024) and i see that text nowhere

[knotty vine]

An Invisible wall of force springs into existence at a point you choose within range. The wall appears in any orientation you choose, as a horizontal or vertical barrier or at an angle. It can be free floating or resting on a solid surface. You can form it into a hemispherical dome or a globe with a radius of up to 10 feet, or you can shape a flat surface made up of ten 10-foot-by-10-foot panels. Each panel must be contiguous with another panel. In any form, the wall is 1/4 inch thick and lasts for the duration.If the wall cuts through a creature’s space when it appears, the creature is pushed to one side of the wall (you choose which side).

Nothing can physically pass through the wall. It is immune to all damage and can’t be dispelled by Dispel Magic. A Disintegrate spell destroys the wall instantly, however. The wall also extends into the Ethereal Plane and blocks ethereal travel through the wall.

[viral kraken]

right so you chose inside

[knotty vine]

If you were to choose inside i still dobut it would be able to fit inside

Cause again its 10x10 vs 20x20

[viral kraken]

i mean the rules work just fine treating it as inside without it being able to fit luckily

[errant crag]

The Dome has a radius of 10ft meaning 10ft is half of how wide it is

[viral kraken]

no weird rules in 5e about crushing things or something

[errant crag]

Since a Radius is the measure of the centerpoint to the outside edge

So the dome is 20x20

[knotty vine]

What?

[errant crag]

If it was a 10ft Diameter then it would be too small

Look up the meaning of Radius

A Radius is the measure from the centerpoint to the outside edge

its a 10ft Radius

[knotty vine]

Generally, no, a standard 10-foot radius Wall of Force dome cannot fit a typical Gargantuan creature, which occupies a 20x20 foot space or larger. A 10-foot radius sphere/dome is only 20 feet wide at its widest point and lower at the edges, making it too small to comfortably contain a creature that takes up a

area, often resulting in them being pushed outside.

[viral kraken]

again, not RaW

[errant crag]

It is literally a 10ft Radius that means the dome is 20ft across

[viral kraken]

they are pushed to the side of your choosing

[knotty vine]

Its always RAW unless said otherwise

[errant crag]

A gargantuan creature can fit into a 20ft by 20ft dome

[viral kraken]

"you choose which side" is RaW

[knotty vine]

the dom isnt 20 by 20

[errant crag]

It is

[knotty vine]

at MAX its 20x10

[errant crag]

Its a 10ft radius

Now i'm making typos

[viral kraken]

10 ft radius

[errant crag]

It's a 10ft radius

Making it 20ft in diameter

Which is big enough to fit a gargantuan creature

[knotty vine]

I guess if that the case the creature can always dig

[viral kraken]

forcecage has RaW about pushing them out, force wall has RaW about choosing where you want them

[errant crag]

It doesn't need to dig it has a 10ft radius

Dammit 10ft

I'm getting thrown off hard

[knotty vine]

wall of force doesnt include the ground

[viral kraken]

that's true, another good reason to use forcecage

[errant crag]

Its a 10ft radius sphere it can fit a 20ft creature

[knotty vine]

I guess

[viral kraken]

forcecage has a floor right?

ya a cube

[knotty vine]

No

Wait it does

[viral kraken]

ya wall of force (as a dome) does not, forcecage does

[errant crag]

Wall of Force is 5th level
Force Cage is 7th
Of course they'd have different applications

Implying that WoF would be bad because Force Cage exists would be like saying Burning Hands is bad because Fireball exists

They're spells of different level you get them at different times

[knotty vine]

5h level fire ball

[errant crag]

Also Force Cage takes Ruby Dust worth 1500 gold

[viral kraken]

i miss the in depth descriptions of the somatic components from some of the 3.5 splat i had

[errant crag]

Which costs just as much as Simulacrum

And my Simulcarum could cast Force Cage

[knotty vine]

I guess?

[elfin stratus]

what would a bugbear look like fully shaved?

[viral kraken]

a bug

[knotty vine]

A bear

[errant crag]

Kinda like a tall goblin with long arms

[knotty vine]

but fully shaved

[elfin stratus]

just asking cause im thinking of a monk bugbear character who shaved their full body to join the world of tatoos and body art

[knotty vine]

I should throw two liches at my players 🤔

[elfin stratus]

that makes alot of sense now that i think about it

[viral kraken]

or a lich and demilich

[knotty vine]

Im not a fan of the new demilich

[viral kraken]

fair

[errant crag]

Tall muscular meaner looking goblin with long arms

They are goblinoids after all

[knotty vine]

Granted true polymorph into a demilich to become in kinda imortral is fun

You can only be killed perm via the wish spell

[errant crag]

But what if someone uses Dispel Magic on you

[knotty vine]

No clue

I still need a baba yaga statblock

Mother of all witches

[viral kraken]

true polymorph lasts until dispelled if held for the full duration, so i guess you would turn back regular if it was dispelled?

[knotty vine]

P much

if they beat that dc 19

Wait Bigby was a human until he died

[light minnow]

Hi

Need help deciding my build

Or well if there is a place where I can ask for help

[lyric viper]

#character-discussion can help out with discussing character ideas and finding the best build for that or, if you want to crunch those numbers and focus on the build itself #optimization

[opaque pollen]

yo guys

new here so tell me if im in the wrong channel but

[knotty vine]

Hm

[opaque pollen]

Can i text about my dnd session here cuz i cant see any lfg chANNELS

cuz im looking for players

[errant crag]

#find-a-game

[still plover]

Check out #find-a-game for help with that.

The #channel-guide has a full list.

[opaque pollen]

thx guys

[knotty vine]

BAWL-durz GATE

[opaque pollen]

do i just type my session's description there? or do i have to press anything

sry for being a pain, im just stoopid

[rugged hawk]

Baldur's Gate, where Bhaal gets bounced every time he tries anything

[knotty vine]

Bawl

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but Boulder's Gate

[opaque pollen]

do i just send it or..?

[errant crag]

Read #find-a-game it should say how it works

[knotty vine]

Bawl bawl bawl

[light minnow]

Thanks

[still plover]

Type

/looking

Pick the option you need, and hit send.

[knotty vine]

I am immortal I am ever lasting

[rugged hawk]

Ackshually, ur a witch. Burn the witch! /s

[opaque pollen]

k just did it. Thx alot

[knotty vine]

I have the boon of immortality

[rugged hawk]

Immortality's only a boon until someone uses it to torment you forever

[knotty vine]

Tasha has a son and a daughter

Her son Luz is a cambion and her daughter Drelnza is a vampire

[errant crag]

My backup character for CoS is such a dumb idea I don't even remember why I'm doing it

Artificer Cleric character

[knotty vine]

half full caster muticlass?

[errant crag]

Yeah

[knotty vine]

one using int the other using wisdom

sounds interesting i guess

[errant crag]

He was going to be Cartographer Artificer and Knowledge Cleric

[knotty vine]

that at least level 6 ouch

[errant crag]

Yeah the party is level 4 now

My current character is a mono class bard but this guy is my backup character I'm making

[knotty vine]

What even are the synergys between the two classes

[errant crag]

I think the main thing I was going for was the cartographers map and being able to target my allies with spells wherever they're at and was going into cleric to get more spells to benefit from that

[obtuse stratus]

Oof, I think with the new rules I wouldn't touch multiclassing like this. Could be a cool idea, rules are just in the way

[cedar bane]

yeah level 3 subclasses really altered it. Its still cool and can have some fun combos but it requires far more investment

[obtuse stratus]

And investment to the midpoint of the module no less 😬

[knotty vine]

I wonder if this place allows old english

[timber turtle]

DM's should gaslight players by giving them true sight potions that are actually hallucination potions

[undone rain]

Dont think so

[knotty vine]

I dont think true sight potions are a thing in dnd to begin with

[umbral girder]

There are clairvoyance potions

But yeah nothing for true sight last I checked.

[errant crag]

I still have fun with it

For instance I currently have 10 cantrips and 15 levelled spells prepared

I've got quite a variety to choose from

I will provide a lot of utility to the party

[rugged hawk]

The only utility required is a life we can sacrifice to the .

[knotty vine]

The boon of high magic has to be one of the best in the game

Being able to cast two 9th leveled spells

[errant crag]

I'm really frustrated that a person in our group is regularly cancelling sessions because he keeps scheduling new things on those days

[severe rampart]

talk to them about it

[errant crag]

I can't play the TTRPG because there's a Warhammer event
I can't play the TTRPG because there's a new card game dropping that I wanna try
I can't play the TTRPG because I'm going to this TCG event

It just frustrates me because we often need to cancel over it

[still plover]

Sounds like they have other interests and this schedule that works for everyone else isn't one they can commit to.

[tawdry sentinel]

Mmmm does feel like they should be the one missing out and not you guys

[rugged hawk]

Give 'em the Mufasa treatment

[errant crag]

Well it would be but we regularly have one other guy who also needs to cancel

[rough basalt]

Ah the "I wanna play dnd but I'd NEVER actually play it" type (the constant "I got other game")

[rugged hawk]

This kinda stuff is why I solo DnD

[errant crag]

Maybe I should just be happy for my friends that they have family gatherings and other things that are worth cancelling D&D over

[severe rampart]

... Imagination? /j

[errant crag]

If my family said "we have a birthday party" I'd be like cool story I have plans I'm not cancelling over a birthday party

But everybody has different relationships with their family I suppose

[undone bloom]

don't hedge your own discomfort for people who aren't treating you right. if they have things regularly come up on the day of session, they cannot commit to that group, and shouldn't be in it

[rough basalt]

I think theres a point where if you can't be there at least 75% of the time you should either drop or have a "if I show I show, don't hold out for me" policy.

[errant crag]

We usually don't cancel for one person missing but there's always two

And its a narrative driven game so the DM doesn't wanna continue with 2/4 players

[undone bloom]

sounds like y'all need to find new players and ask those two to either leave or be consistent

[errant crag]

I am the only person who can consistently make it every single week the other 3 are like taking turns missing sessions

[undone rain]

You all need to talk about it

[knotty vine]

I’ve constantly had a thought about having an adventurer has children

[undone bloom]

yeah, that's a kind of situation that the DM needs to step up and make some hard calls. hosting a table where you never play is basically like not having a table

[rough basalt]

I'm getting the vibe to them it's not really a commitment but a "I'll show if I got nothing better to do" type of thing.

Least for the one guy.

[undone bloom]

D&D is a commitment you make to other people, not a come-and-go hobby like board game night

[undone rain]

I get cancelling when its important but doing it over and over again

[undone bloom]

and if the DM won't do anything about literally not playing the game, it's time to find a new table

[errant crag]

They'll insist its isolated incidents, like "I don't have family visiting every weekend" or "It's not a holiday every weekend" or "I don't have a Warhammer event every weekend"

"it's just a stretch of bad weekends resulting in us not playing for over a month guys that's it"

[undone bloom]

yeah don't give them the airspace

they're clearly trying to manipulate the group by downplaying a pattern of not attending

[rough basalt]

Yeah what's the saying "you make time for stuff you love"

[still plover]

What about an episodic campaign? One session, one adventure. Finish late? It plays out how you've done so far.

[undone bloom]

even if the reason is inconsistent, they are consistently not there. that's on them, not whatever excuse of the week they have

[errant crag]

I'm grinding my teeth with how tired I am of isolated one shots I need a continuing story

[still plover]

Ah, yeah.

[rough basalt]

DnD players when they have to actually play dnd: screams in pain

[undone bloom]

it's time to find a new table then, or have the DM make one

if you're only four players, and two are regularly not there, it's time to replace em

[undone rain]

No dnds better then bad dnd. Or in your case any dnd at all

[knotty vine]

Dnd players when dnd:

[errant crag]

But then the story that we've had so far is completely gone, when everybody can make it it's great and we like our characters and the plot and the roleplay

People just aren't willing to lock in and make an effort to get there

[rough basalt]

I remember watching a video where a guy solved scheduling issues and it boiled down to "these guys said they could never show up so I don't play with them anymore"

[errant crag]

And its annoying to need to abandon it completely

[undone bloom]

if you aren't playing the game 90% of the time anyway, what's the difference? you practically already don't have that story

[still plover]

"If you were on a football team and missed three games, would you expect to stay on the team?"

[undone bloom]

if you keep desperately clinging on to a dysfunctional table that is clearly upsetting you, it's just gonna embitter you more and more. just leave and take the loss, or ask the DM to consider replacing the players

[severe rampart]

"Oh no, Scheduling is the game"

[rough basalt]

"It's not a football team tho. It's just a board game we play when we got nothing better to do." - the general belief among these types.
Which to be clear, isn't wrong but it is when you include someone or more that actually wanna play dnd.

[rugged hawk]

...the winner is whoever manages to escape the most scheduled sessions without getting kicked? /s

[severe rampart]

Oh how I hate it when people don't get metaphors

[glad arch]

Thats a shitty mentality, you play dnd because you want to. Not because youre bored

[glass granite]

Nah, it’s the person who can schedule the most games while still having a life

[severe rampart]

I got 5 games here

[humble cairn]

This is rude. Everyone else has made room on their schedules, canceling for this one person is disrespectful of everyone else's time. Is there a way you can just continue without them?

[severe rampart]

5 games within 3 days of each other, I have 5 days of the week just for me

[rough basalt]

That's the reason the a large majority play "dnd" it's just a reason to hang out when they "got nothing better to do"

[undone rain]

5 games? Gang im lucky to even have 2

[undone bloom]

they said it's a small party and the campaign is "narrative-driven", so when 2 players can't make it (regularly), they all get shafted

[severe rampart]

Sometimes they cancel, it's okay, I have other games to look forward to

[still plover]

"You have won the dungeon. Here is your prize, the fabled Nat 20."

[undone rain]

Lucky you. I got em on sundays and wednesdays

[humble cairn]

Well again, that is rude.

[severe rampart]

I can't accept this, I play like 2 games a week, first game cancels, I DM the second, third one cancels, fourth one cancels 50/50, and the final one is actually pretty nice

[inner silo]

Are dhampirs essentially half vampires?

[undone bloom]

that's why i've been saying to either leave or remake. this party is clearly not equally invested

[cedar bane]

pretty much

[still plover]

"The prize is returned to Urizt Georg."

[undone rain]

I am also very scared for tomorrow, we got a one shot and we are gonna be level 17

[rough basalt]

Partial moreso.

[severe rampart]

high level oneshots are usually easier than low level oneshots in my experience

[rough basalt]

They have some of a vampires abilities without the drawbacks.

[undone rain]

Lets hope so

[inner silo]

And vampire spawn are vampires who only have a bit of ones power and must serve the vampire who turned them?

[cedar bane]

yeppers

[severe rampart]

I'm proud that I got over my fear of killing PCs, killed two players today, and they weren't mad

[cedar bane]

dhampirs are more people with vampire blood rather than vampires

[inner silo]

Seems like they're also more powerful then a vampire spawn

[cedar bane]

like a draconic sorcerer isnt a dragon

[rugged hawk]

I mean, 'party of level 1's encounter random bear five minutes after leaving town, no survivors' is an awfully efficient sesh

[undone rain]

I did manage to gain a 20 on charisma

[inner silo]

Can you become a dhampir by biting a vampire and drinking their blood?

[cedar bane]

in the sense of theyre player characters, yeah

[severe rampart]

I would hope so for level 17

[inner silo]

I see

[cedar bane]

theres many ways to do it but thats a widely accepted one

i dont know if theres a specific route you take

[undone rain]

Its fiiiiine...hopefully. i got a 2 on INT...

[inner silo]

Sounds pretty funny imo. Reminds me of the guy who bit a venomous snake

[severe rampart]

that's-, huh? 😭

[undone rain]

We roll a simple d20 to determine stats and i got a bit unlucky

[inner silo]

2 int and 20 cha?

[severe rampart]

Lmao, love that

[knotty vine]

Gang got hit with feeblemind

Pre game

[severe rampart]

Mind Controls, etc. won't work on him, he doesn't have a mind to be controlled

[undone rain]

Im gonna be as dumb as a monkey but ill be a charismatic monkey

[undone bloom]

World of Io reference 🗣️

[cedar bane]

i think youre dumber man

[undone rain]

Grunting will have the ladies swoon over me

[rugged hawk]

Nah, just Dominate Beast

[cedar bane]

most animals have a 3

[knotty vine]

You can’t even speak 😭

[severe rampart]

I am dying here 😭

[humble cairn]

Could be half vampire, could be vampire spawn. Those stats could also be used to portray a bunch of other things like ghouls or zombies or succubi/incubi.

[undone rain]

My guys so dumb he dosent even know hes alive

[severe rampart]

Monkeys, Apes, etc. usually have around 6+ int

[undone rain]

Oh dear god im dumber then a brick

[knotty vine]

I think you need to have at least a 3 to understand language

[severe rampart]

I think you're virtually a tree

[humble cairn]

Not in 5E.

[cedar bane]

i think 3 is counted as sentience

[knotty vine]

Your not even sentience by 5e standards

[undone rain]

How did my guy become a paladin with that INT

[rough basalt]

You need a 3 in order to be detected by Illithids and be affected by Synatic Static I believe.

[cedar bane]

some higher being thought itd be funny

or hes an awakened shrub

[rugged hawk]

Pretty sure Awakened anything has 3+ Int

[undone rain]

He just entered a church. Grunted and got the oath of devotion

[rough basalt]

Yeah it has like 10 I believe

[knotty vine]

Nah it only has a 0

Aka 10 int

[rugged hawk]

No, I meant 3 Int, not 3 int MODIFIER

[knotty vine]

Creatures that are awaken via the spell has there int set to 10

[rugged hawk]

Oh. Yep, definitely dumber than an awakened animal

[cedar bane]

my man was a brick in said church

[rough basalt]

Going to the closest store that sells dnd books today.

Hoping I can find one of the books on my to get list

[knotty vine]

could always have a Druid use magic aura on you

[severe rampart]

Does he even know what devotion means?

[rugged hawk]

Wait, but if his Int is 2 and Cha is 20, what's his Wis?

[knotty vine]

Something that it’ll make you cry

[cedar bane]

he doesnt know what anything means

[severe rampart]

has to be average

[cedar bane]

he doesnt know he exists

[storm magnet]

Is Charon in DnD

[severe rampart]

2 int, 20 Wisdom

[storm magnet]

The river styx boat dude

[cedar bane]

kelemvor would be closest, but ferrymen are pretty common

so im sure it could exist

[knotty vine]

Wisdom is way too common of a save to just give up

[rugged hawk]

What's his Wis?

[undone rain]

-2

[knotty vine]

Ouch

[cedar bane]

thank god youre a paladin

[knotty vine]

I hope you get to level 6 before long

[rugged hawk]

So.... 3 Int, 6 Wis, 20 Cha?

[severe rampart]

at the very least... please have a magic item

[inner silo]

I see, thanks for explaining

[still plover]

Heh, we were talking of something similar yesterday: #character-discussion message

[rugged hawk]

Not the MODIFIERS, what's the actual stats? 4 Int, 6 Wis, 20 Cha?

[cedar bane]

well hey hes slightly smarter than crabs and deer so

[knotty vine]

Even taking into account with the aura n all that his wisdom save is… 1

[storm magnet]

Interesting!

[undone rain]

2 INT, 7 WIS and 20 CHA

[knotty vine]

That’s gonna hurt up until level 6

[rugged hawk]

Oh shit, it's even worse than I thought

Orange cats are actually more alive than this guy

[knotty vine]

Deers have an int of 2

[rugged hawk]

And they share a single brain cell

[cedar bane]

nm same as a deer

still better than a crab though

[undone rain]

Might have to talk with the dm about this

[rugged hawk]

No, this is perfect, do it

[knotty vine]

What’s your con and dex and str?

[undone rain]

15 STR, 8 DEX, 14 CON

[still plover]

I put my two silvers on ability scores generated by d20 rolls.

[cedar bane]

oh for sure

but yeah stats are usually 4d6 drop the lowest

[undone rain]

So yeah the biggest idiot is a level 17 paladin

[severe rampart]

Dexterity and Wisdom scores that low??

[knotty vine]

Your level 17?

[severe rampart]

they mentioned that yeah

[undone rain]

Oneshot

[cedar bane]

well he isnt very smart what do you expect

[still plover]

Dang, missed it.

[severe rampart]

I mean, they could just get some magic items and they'll be fine

[knotty vine]

As long as you aren’t fighting mind flayer I guess

Falling back on magic items is a sure fire way to get yourself killed

[undone rain]

Can my guy even say his spells out loud to cast em😭

[cedar bane]

ha. no

get your man a headband of intellect

[knotty vine]

Idk

[severe rampart]

Too bad buddy, only spells with Somatic Components for you

[undone rain]

I think dm will let me reroll

[severe rampart]

and then it's worse

[undone rain]

Get a 1

[severe rampart]

1 int baby let's go

[cedar bane]

crab gameplay lets go

[knotty vine]

1 and 20

[undone rain]

But nah dms girl said we can reroll if its under 5

Pleeeaaaase give me smth reasonable

[rugged hawk]

inb4 Straight 5 in all stats

[undone rain]

I got a 4

[knotty vine]

This is why you should roll 4d6 instead lmao

[cedar bane]

hes gained sentience

[humble cairn]

Ability scores do not determine your personality. You can speak just fine.

[cedar bane]

by the gods

[cedar bane]

usually no but an int of 2 is well

[undone rain]

Again i can reroll since its under 5

[knotty vine]

I don’t think speaking is a “personality”

[undone rain]

Okay thats better i got a 12

[humble cairn]

Still fine, just really bad at remembering things when it comes to tense situations.

[cedar bane]

to be clear, 5e considers an int of 3 to be sentience

[humble cairn]

You can speak just fine and know languages with an int of 2.

[cedar bane]

he has been awakened

[knotty vine]

Maybe but I don’t think a creature can speak of it isn’t sentient

[humble cairn]

Where's the rule that says int less than 3 is non sentient?

[undone rain]

Hes actually got some sort of brain

[cedar bane]

its the general pattern with statblocks, and a lot of things that target sentient creatures state 3 or higher (mindflayers)

[knotty vine]

You can just keep rerolling if you get a bad result?

[limber trail]

Is an int score of 2 even possible? I don’t believe you can roll that low on 3 d6es.

[humble cairn]

Ok so no rule then?

[knotty vine]

They roll 1d20

[limber trail]

Ah

[humble cairn]

So yes, you're fine, you can speak and read and everything just fine with an int of 2.

[loud tendon]

They said the DMs girl said reroll anything under 5

[undone rain]

Yep and i got a 12

So ill take it

[knotty vine]

You can reroll a 1-5 on a d20

seems kinda strong

[undone rain]

Thats the point, dm wants us to be strong this sesh

[severe rampart]

if I ever make a casino oneshot, I'd use the Blackjack Stat Generation method (Player plays against the DM, whatever they get is their stat, however if they lose or bust they get a 5 or lower iirc)

[loud tendon]

Ive heard of similar systems before. Their Dm their rules for stat generation.

[knotty vine]

Why not just let you pick your stats at that point

[humble cairn]

D&D rules do not do "general pattern = rule."

If it isn't a stated rule, it isn't a rule.

[knotty vine]

I don’t agree with that statement

[loud tendon]

You could still roll "low" 5-8.. and also all average numbers that you cant re-roll. Still risk/reward

[humble cairn]

Charm spells do not have a general rule that the target knows they were charmed, for example. It only does that if the spel specifically says so.

[rough basalt]

Rolling d20s for stats is pretty hilarious.

[knotty vine]

Dnd has a lot of cases where raw has to come into play

[rough basalt]

Not something I'd do again for anything but a one shot though.

[knotty vine]

Just seems like a poor choice to bang your permanent stat on a d20 of all things

[rough basalt]

6d20 stat gen peaked when it gave me John Dungeon
20,20,20,6,7,5

[severe rampart]

John Martial

[undone rain]

Six seeeveee-

[rough basalt]

A 3d6 in order game would be funny

[undone rain]

Ill go and banish myself now

[severe rampart]

-1 to your Charisma Stat

[knotty vine]

Getting an 18 on a 4d6 drop the lowest is a 1.62% chance of happening btw

And the odds of getting just 1 is 9.34%

[severe rampart]

18 on a 1d6?

[rough basalt]

I played an OSR system that uses 3d6 in order and it was hilarious cause a friend of mine that tried it coming in as a 1 session guest to help finish my game in it rolled 3 PCs with 1 hp cause they had a -3 to con.

[knotty vine]

READ

[severe rampart]

it was 1d6, before you changed it

[undone rain]

Oh right i actually have 22 CHA. Racial stuff

[knotty vine]

I thought race can’t go above 20 unless special ruling?

[severe rampart]

Uhh usually stuff like that will say stuff like "would not exceed 20"

[rough basalt]

Racial ASI doesn't go over 20. Unless your dm is saying so.

[knotty vine]

How did you get +2 +2 again from an asi?

[humble cairn]

I mean they're already not using any of the RAW stat generation methods, anyway.

[knotty vine]

True

Granted paladins don’t really have any hard hitting spell save DCS

[undone rain]

Yeah i got a 20 on my roll and +2 for changeling. But ill talk to the dm

[opaque tusk]

20 from 4d6?

[humble cairn]

Conquest Paladins kind of live by their spell save DC. But not much for the rest.

[severe rampart]

d20 per stat

[knotty vine]

1d20 for stats

[opaque tusk]

Ahh

[knotty vine]

So I’m guessing it’s 2014?

[undone rain]

Hard to explain

[rough basalt]

Sounds like good ole homebrew abomination then.

[severe rampart]

2024, with 2014 backwards compatibility?

[undone rain]

In a way yes, we do abit of our own things

[knotty vine]

Disgusting

[undone rain]

Ouch

[knotty vine]

Mixing 2014 and 2024 has never gone well in any game I’ve been in

[undone rain]

As i said hard to explain. Everyone plays differently here and well so do we.

[knotty vine]

That’s clear as day when you roll a d20 for stats

[lyric viper]

Ah I found using 14 and 24 worked pretty well in my games. Sometimes a little debate on some rules.

[undone rain]

As long as people are havin fun

[severe rampart]

yup yup

[undone rain]

And we sure have alot of fun believe me

[knotty vine]

Time to have fun about which grapple system is more balanced

[undone rain]

Laughin our asses off every sesh

[knotty vine]

I still think the old grapple rules are better

[thin glen]

If I handpainted the minis I made in heroforge, where do I send them? Sorry if this is the wrong channel

[undone rain]

I believe #dnd-minis

[thin glen]

Okay, thank you!

[undone rain]

No probs

[knotty vine]

If I cast the simi spell and have two 9th level spell slots will it also have two 9th level slots

[undone rain]

Selune seems like a cool deity. I should make a character serves her

[knotty vine]

If her viper is anything like her I want nothing to do with her

Main cause last time I did the dm rage quit

[opaque tusk]

Do/can bards use their instruments as a spellcasting focus?

[knotty vine]

Probably

we had gotten through all of strahd's LRs and i used Contagion spell along with the viper spell

[loud tendon]

Its right in the intro section for bards: "Spellcasting Focus. You can use a Musical Instrument as a Spellcasting Focus for your Bard spells."

[knotty vine]

through I wonder are they suppose to be Incapacitated for 1 hour or 7 days

[opaque tusk]

Ah

I ask this cause I had an idea for a joke where the bard Im playing plays a couple notes with her accordion that resemble a gun being cocked when threatening someone

[humble cairn]

Besides a component pouch, instruments are the only spellcasting foci for Bards.

[still plover]

No arcane?

[knotty vine]

nope

[rough basalt]

I use as little '14 as possible when it comes to my games personally.

I mainly use environmental effects from Tashas like Eldritch Storms ect. and statblocks.

[humble cairn]

No, Bards cannot by default use those.

[knotty vine]

I prefer using my weapons as a spell casting focus

[tough pewter]

Imagine a bard stabbing an enemy with a plastic toy recorder

[still plover]

This disrupts my plans. Hmm.

[hidden spindle]

You could ask the DM to make an exception

Which happens to be well within the written rules

[still plover]

Always true. Eh, I can go with a thousand-note flute if not.

[humble cairn]

If you really want to look wizardy, use a conducting baton as a "wand."

[still plover]

Oh, that is sly, good thinking.

[rough basalt]

Welp no dnd book checking out today.

Store had multiple sources saying their open at various times and they're closed.

[turbid sand]

guys is dual wielding a scimitar the best weapon oat?

[feral fulcrum]

Weapon Oat?

[tranquil quail]

if your DM allows it, it's fine. my eloquence bard uses a stolen wizard's spellbook as a focus and pretends to be a wizard <3

[limber trail]

best weapon of all time

[feral fulcrum]

Do not eat pointy metal objects and wooden sticks for breakfast, nor feed such to your animals

[hidden spindle]

Oats are yummy

[cobalt owl]

They can be

[hidden spindle]

Tavern Brawer: And they can be a weapon

[past edge]

Hey yall how's it going

I've been wondering about what type of creature I should make to be the primary enemy type of my new campaign, but I don't wanna use the classics like orcs or demons, I wanna do something atypical. Does anyone in here have a creature type they think is underrated and/or would like to see more?

[lavish flame]

I think Gnolls to Demons could be a full 1-20 campaign (possibly ending with a Yeenoghu fight) and itd work fine.

I'm also a huge fan of Yuan-Ti and Lizardfolk, and I figure they could have a campaign on their own

[small heath]

I'm playing as a gnoll in one of my campaigns.

[past edge]

I always overlook gnolls, but I've never actually even used them before. My current campaign actually uses lizardfolk as it's primary enemies! They're servants of a blue dragon who is the bbeg

[small heath]

I'm personally having a lot of fun with my gnoll barbarian. It's quite entertaining and leads to some absolute cinema moments.

[fossil hollow]

yuan ti and lizardfolk building up to a tarraque or giant dino would be awesome

[past edge]

Their main thing is that they suffer from an almost eternal hunger right?

[fossil hollow]

yeap

[lavish flame]

very Galactus

[still plover]

Lizardfolk as a substitute for a PC gnoll sounds like it might have legs, will investigate.

[small heath]

The funny thing on my end is that I love to actually voice act my characters.

[past edge]

In my campaign, the lizardfolk are cold and logical, and their primary concern is their own survival. They see serving the dragon as the most guaranteed way to survive, and equate devotion to increased survival probability. The most favored are the most likely to survive, in their minds.

[small heath]

It took me at least 20 minutes to find a voice for my gnoll barb and lizardfolk ranger.

[lavish flame]

Lizardfolk as Gnoll is pretty good actually

[past edge]

I haven't explored yuan ti as an enemy very much, but I think if I did I'd make them very clever and always in an advantageous position. Perhaps they control an entire island, and despite there being primitive human settlements, they don't outright kill the humans, instead forcing them to offer sacrifice or even making them run so they can be hunted

Keeping the local human tribes basically like livestock

[feral fulcrum]

Are Yuan-Ti even likely to eat people in their lore?

[past edge]

Well I don't know, but I do know snakes eat other snakes in real life. Just kinda made the rationalization that if they'd eat their own, they'd probably eat humans.

[fossil hollow]

i know yuan ti sacrifice and enslave

[past edge]

I know they make drugs from their own venom to create vice among human civilizations, to weaken their minds and keep them as slaves that are willing to work for drugs

[fossil hollow]

also, how do you pronounce it? I do
You-auntie

[past edge]

Me too lol

[fossil hollow]

but ive heard yawn-tea

[lavish flame]

You-auntie for me

[fossil hollow]

seemed like an asian name/word to me, so i defaulted to pronouncing every word like so

[lavish flame]

Really, there's a third syllable in it for me, I kinda hit a "You-awn-tea" with pauses for each syllable

[past edge]

Alright yuan ti is winning out for me rn, I've already got a cool idea for a campaign premise

Shipwrecked on Yuan Ti Isle

Starting at level 1 of course, for maximum "we're so screwed" factor

[uncut zenith]

I personally pronounce it with two syllables. I just say “yuan” with the same cadence as saying “Juan”

[lavish flame]

I've been figuring out a Yuan-Ti plot involving shapeshifting into people that hold positions of power and replacing them. Shapechangers are fun

[fossil hollow]

i think im gonna turn them into dinosaur people

[lavish flame]

Yuan-Ti? not Lizardfolk?

[feral fulcrum]

Found the Spider-man villian of the week folks.

[fossil hollow]

I dont wanna cure cancer!

[fossil hollow]

both, with yuan ti being closer to the animal lord that made em (my setting equivalent of Ub Tao)

with certain tribes of lizardfolk being ancient enough to be dino people

[past edge]

Honestly a dinosaur humanoid race sounds awesome. I'd make them appropriately sized to their actual dino equivalents, kinda like how Loxodon are massive elephant people

What would you call them?

[proper forum]

My teammates called my character OP. I can finally rest now.

[fossil hollow]

my setting calls them dinosakin

[past edge]

How is it pronounced? My first instinct was "Die-noss-a-kin"

[fossil hollow]

dee-no-sa-kin

[proper forum]

If you want a name that sounds more dramatically cohesive I guess, I suggest Saurokin. Because the "-saur" part of Dinosaur comes from the Greek word fir lizard.

[lavish flame]

Stealing "Sauropod" from irl and using it

[proper forum]

You could also go with "Androsaur", from "andras" which means man and "saura" which means lizard. Man lizard.

[fossil hollow]

i thought about it, trying to incorporate latin to their actual (or what they call themselves) name

apparently behemoth stays the same in latin

[still plover]

Very close to my vision: a lore bard who researches the primordial language of creation itself and uses Words of Power for spellcasting.

[past edge]

What about Reptars

[proper forum]

Well it's Greek in this case not Latin

[azure pond]

When it comes to background music, what do you usually search for on streaming platforms? like "dnd music, dnd background music" etc.

[proper forum]

I just use actual historical music to be "realistic" (you don't have to do that)

[past edge]

Ngl I pull from video game osts. One I pull from all the time is Monster Hunter.

[proper forum]

I have a massive playlist of Medieval music and another one of Renaissance music if you are interested. Not made by me btw.

[fossil hollow]

MH mentioned

supremacy

[past edge]

Legend of Zelda boss fight themes are not to be slept on

I'm more of an insect glaive user myself

[proper forum]

If you want to be extra evil you can use normal Renaissance music for the campaign and then jumpscare them with dubstep for the boss fights

[fossil hollow]

i will say the same thing me and my brother did playing fire emblem three houses:
"Dubstep in my fire emblem game???"

[still plover]

(Theme) ambient music, usually.

[proper forum]

That is literally where I stole the idea from. Very evil.

[past edge]

I love using video game music because, as it often is in video games, certain sound tracks have second halves for the second phase of a fight. The reaction you get when you turn on the phase two theme is just 👌

[proper forum]

Also you can use the Skyrim OST it's elite

[fossil hollow]

monster hunter, arknights, honkai star rail, xenoblade 2+3, zenless zone zero, and fire emblem are my usual go tos

[azure pond]

Okay 🙂 I am asking since I'm working on a soundtrack for my campaign, and when I upload it I would hope it can end up in the playlists of others
Thank you!

[past edge]

There's a YouTube channel I like using for downtime or non hostile moments called Blue Turtle, they have playlists on YouTube you can use

The video game music is usually what I use for combat or tense situations

[still plover]

Anything by Two Steps From Hell.

[past edge]

Idk how this would work but for extra long campaigns, could you theoretically break it down into segmented mini campaigns like how the Harry Potter books are split into several books without losing player interest?

Need player opinions

[fossil hollow]

a reason to keep going back (harry hating the muggl world, plus voldemort)

[azure pond]

I would just hope certain pieces that I make find their way into people's playlists 😄 Although essentially I'm writing it all for my own campaign - I'm just not entirely sure what to call the album so it's at least showing up if people search ambient fantasy music

[past edge]

I think the downtime between mini campaigns would be good opportunity for players to advance their individual stories, but they also might prefer to handle that in game

[past edge]

Do you make music yourself? Or do you just put playlists together?

[azure pond]

I write music yes 🙂

[still plover]

Yes. I am an advocate of the three adventure arc.

[past edge]

I'd love to give some of it a listen if you're willing to share!

[still plover]

And as you mentioned, it gives the party time for downtime, researching spells and new fighting techniques, learning languages, getting custom gear made.

[azure pond]

absolutely! there's a track link in my bio - I don't have any Spotify uploads yet, still finalizing some things

But I have older stuff that's more cinematic sounding... probably close to an hour of music - but the stuff for my campaign is going to be much more tavern and medieval focused 😄

[past edge]

Just subscribed

[azure pond]

oh lovely! ty

I suppose it doesn't really matter what I call the album, I could always share it here once I upload? Would that be #dnd-media ?

[past edge]

I'd imagine so, someone who I made friends with left the server because one of the mods was very particular about what content goes in what channels

I guess double check before posting it there in case you run into similar issues

[azure pond]

Ah I mean that's totally fair - there's like what 300k people in here?

It could easily get messy lol

[humble cairn]

I like having the channels be useful for specific things. Allowing them to be cluttered up with static makes them much less useful.

[past edge]

The situation in question was a strange example. They posted a question about something they were drawing in the art channel and provided a picture, and i think the issue was that there was a question asked

Having specific channels is good in my opinion, I agree with the concept

But what they wanted to do, there wasn't a better channel to do it in

[azure pond]

When I get it on streaming platforms I can certainly ping ya in the right channel, probably #dnd-media 😄

[past edge]

Heck yeah I look forward to it

[umbral girder]

Finished another campaign at level 20 yesterday.

[past edge]

I'm thinking about running this Yuan Ti game once it's made. Maybe I'll scoop some people together on here and run it for some folks 👀

[umbral girder]

Good luck!

[past edge]

"Another"? How did you even manage to do it once? Tell me your secrets

[umbral girder]

I’ve done a baker’s dozen

13 campaigns

[past edge]

Holy schmoly

[azure pond]

I'm on my first campaign ever 😄

[umbral girder]

It’s pretty easy, barely an inconvenience

[azure pond]

Gonna be old and moldy before its finished

[fossil hollow]

dont post age

[past edge]

How's it going? Are you player or dm?

[azure pond]

Player, my friend is DM

[umbral girder]

I use the XP rules so things leveling up is nearly every session.

[umbral girder]

Server rules says you shouldn’t post ages.

[azure pond]

Ohh my bad

[past edge]

I've made the same mistake before, just let it slip once

[azure pond]

Any rpg I've ever played that has Paladins I've always defaulted to Paladin, so yes Paladin it is

[past edge]

I have found that it's much easier to find games as a dm than as a player

[tranquil quail]

if i'm old enough to plan my hair dye around all the grays am i allowed to post age

[fossil hollow]

dont post age, period

[tranquil quail]

okie dokie

[woven flint]

Paladins are MID /joking

[azure pond]

I would need much more experience 😄

It's definitely fun, we are in Waterdeep

5e

[past edge]

That's sorta true, but part of the experience is kinda just diving in blind (with patient players)

[azure pond]

Haha yeah that's basically what my friend is doing as DM, but he's done a few campaigns before

[past edge]

Although I actually started dming for people who have never played dnd before, so they didn't actually know when I messed up lmao

[azure pond]

that's a good strategy haha

[past edge]

Mistakes are part of the process though, so don't be afraid to make them!

My end goal is for people to have fun, so even if I make a dozen mistakes, if my players had fun by the end, my duty has been done lol

[mild breach]

Looking forward to when D&D 6.0 comes.. should be three fat books with all the fixes and all controversies set aside. I'd easily pay $300 for that. 😁

[fossil hollow]

try again in 2040

[past edge]

300 plus a 20$ monthly fee and not including additional resources that are created afterwards lol

[mild breach]

Was I mislead on the articles about D&D apologizing then too? 😔

[fossil hollow]

what?

[normal wagon]

Dumb question is anyone looking for a player

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[mild breach]

About all the shortcomings and mistakes of 2024. Like I could not stand that they were like frankesteining material in different books.. we don't want to own 69 books.. I don't want one book having two subclasses, then another book for another 3.. you know?

[fossil hollow]

what

whose we

[past edge]

I'll throw my hat in that ring

Now it's a "we" lol

[fossil hollow]

and thats already been the case since 2014... they dont all have the same amount of content in each book lmao

[mild breach]

My bad, everyone else but you basically. 😂

[lavish flame]

no they haven't apologized for this, it would kinda be weird to apologize for this too, they've been doing this exact thing for 25 years

clearly this is just what they do

[woven flint]

Money.

[turbid sand]

prove me wrong:
scimitar is the best weapon newbie of all time in dnd

[woven flint]

Selling 5 bajillion books is just how they make bank

[past edge]

It's the primary source of their income, but it still kinda gouges players without disposable income

They should monetize it in more user friendly ways in my opinion

[fossil hollow]

tasha came with 27 subclasses. xanathar has 32. bugby has 1, fizban has 2

[still plover]

Bring back al a carte on DDB!

[fossil hollow]

thats all 2014 books

this isnt new to 2024

[mild breach]

Okay. But make the same mistake twice though?

[woven flint]

What mistake?

[fossil hollow]

literally so much of tasha, xanathar, mordenkainen's monsters of the multiverse are reprints

[atomic kayak]

What exactly are you asking for?

[umbral girder]

Fun fact most of my games that reached level 20 are because of 2024 new rule set

[fossil hollow]

twice?

[lavish flame]

Well, yeah, any hobby that costs money will price out people who cannot afford to spend money on that hobby, it sucks but its expected. People that do crochet as their hobby usually have to wait to start new projects because yarn isn't cheap. D&D books are similar

[mild breach]

So they have all the 2014 material out, yeah? Why couldn't they upgrade that content and contain more of that material into fewer books for the 2024?

[fossil hollow]

money

its a business

[woven flint]

Because MONEY and also the time that it'd probably take to update content anyway

[fossil hollow]

i also would rather have more new stuff than reprints for the most part

[past edge]

I think the biggest issue for players is that it isn't exactly designed to be accessible, it's designed to be profitable

[lavish flame]

Shout out to MMM for consolidating the species and monsters from Volo's and Mordenkainen's

[mild breach]

New stuff should get its own book, but existing / updated should be contained to less books is what I am saying

[fossil hollow]

eh

[woven flint]

MMM is the only time Mordenkainen has been the goat

Otherwise
Screw Mordenkainen

[fossil hollow]

eberron did both and was fine

[mild breach]

I liked that one.. juicy and felt nearly complete

[fossil hollow]

what is it with these damn bots

[woven flint]

Clanker uprising.

[past edge]

I agree, Eberron was one of my favorites

[short brook]

Eberron is a peak setting

[lavish flame]

I want a Player's Handbook 2 that consolidates all the player options from Bigby's and Fizban's and Book of Many Things and all those splatbooks. They should get their time to shine in whatever they originate from (like Psions in Dark Sun or Scion of the Three Rogues in Forgotten Realms) but then they should just be moved to a more central book imo.

[past edge]

Things that should happen but won't for 500 please

[meager fractal]

Phb2 would be great

[fossil hollow]

thanks hasbro. i would love the MM2 and dmG 2 system back

[azure pond]

I'd love to be privy to a highly experienced DnD campaign

Corridor Crew does a great job

[small heath]

Question: Does your DM/do you allow your party to interpret a Nat 20 as an "auto success" ?

[fossil hollow]

no

[dense nacelle]

Would adamantine armor turn a crit into a miss? Had a player ask me that and the argument lasted a little bit, I just wanna know if I’m misinterpreting the “turn a crit into a normal hit” by just making it a hit and dealing normal damage instead of allowing it to miss

[fossil hollow]

no

[short brook]

Just a normal hit

[fossil hollow]

turns it into a normal hit

[past edge]

I still need another 20 years before I am comfortable calling myself "highly experienced" lol

[lavish flame]

No

[woven flint]

Nat 20's aren't always an Auto Success, especially not on saving throws

[azure pond]

same

[dense nacelle]

Follow up question: if someone who is wearing adamantine armor is crit and someone uses cloud rune to move the hit to someone else, would the damage still be that of a crit or would it be that of a normal hit?

[hidden spindle]

You don't need time

You need experience

[lavish flame]

You'll get your auto-hit and double damage on an Attack Roll, but you don't just automatically do whatever you wanted on an Ability Check. I don't even know what a nat 20 on a Saving Throw would do.

[woven flint]

Cloud Rune requires a Reroll anyway, IIRC

[azure pond]

I once learned a card game in five minutes

[lavish flame]

I figure if they aren't being hit then they aren't being hit

[mild breach]

I'll never call myself a pro or charge for games personally.

[short brook]

kinda wish rolling nat 20 on saves did something

[dense nacelle]

Nope

[fossil hollow]

also, might be a better topic for #dnd-rules

[woven flint]

Ah, then, if they're not immune to a Crit, they still get crit.

[lavish flame]

I'm actually proud to say I've bene a professional DM. I charged 15$ per person, per week. It was a pretty decent way to get money, and I enjoyed it enough

[past edge]

Sorry, I meant 20 years worth of experience lol

[hidden spindle]

You'll be into the 'new' edition or two by then

[short brook]

Pretty good price 👍

[short brook]

How many people was your goal for a table?

[umbral girder]

I’ve contemplated being a paid DM but then that makes it feel more like work than play for me personally.

[past edge]

I'd charge for games for two reasons. Firstly, some people have the most luck finding games on websites designed for paying to find groups. And two, I think I'd charge a reasonable rate, and provide a feasibly enjoyable experience. (I'm worth the money I swear only 1 dollar please 🙏)

[lavish flame]

The group maxed out at 5 people, but it was rarely all 5 showing up. We prolly played with an average of like 4.2 ppl

[stone dust]

was the .2 a halfling? XD

[short brook]

5 makes sense

[bright vessel]

Title: The Griffon's Saddlebag: Book Two (5e)

Product Key: GIFT-beb4fd18-46c5-4a00-ae76-974ddfd37ff9

in to the void with you!

[lavish flame]

When you crash Zariel's Flying Fortress, you tend to lose bits

[hidden spindle]

A baby

[umbral girder]

Someone was playing a familiar

[mild breach]

😆

[past edge]

Work is starting to pick up, I gotta dip out I'll catch yall later

Much love ❤️

[feral fulcrum]

Effectively give you Evasion in most cases, I'd presume.

[hot marlin]

(Nevermind, I missed the context)

[fossil hollow]

lmao

[remote wadi]

To be honest, I never really understood why someone complains about wanting the spotlight only to just waste everyone's time when they receive said spotlight

[fossil hollow]

Because they arent self aware

[mild breach]

Isn't that an NPC?

[fossil hollow]

lots of people irl can be npcs or that self absorbent

[remote wadi]

Wasted close to a third of this whole session of my party attacking someone with a coin, taking new spells (prepared spellcaster who didn't take new ones when we leveled up last week), or having a mostly one sided conversation about Demon Hunters

But I guess me trying to be in the front of the party as a monk and trying to attack the goblin archers is "trying to be the center of attention"

[short brook]

Taking the spotlight is scary, i'm prone to choking when put on the spot

Just let me farm aura in the back or sumn

[crimson gulch]

Congratulations!

[remote wadi]

Me, I don't mind it. I just don't appreciate someone having a problem with normal DnD things only to waste everyone's time

[exotic abyss]

Hello folks

[short brook]

idk that would kill me with anxiety lol

[shadow vapor]

Hay all my friends, I am looking for a magic item that changes my creature type.
I spcificly want my creature type to be beast, my character is a cat warlock and relishes the freedom that comes with being a cat, unfortunatly he isn't really a cat, but he wants to get as close to being one as possible.
-# (YES, I DO KNOW THE POSSIBLE DRAW BACKS.)

[short brook]

Heya

[exotic abyss]

How's it rolling?

[exotic abyss]

Lemme check

[short brook]

Badly 😢

my character is probably dead next session

Frustrating team dynamics i guess

[exotic abyss]

Please do tell if you wanna

[exotic abyss]

Nothing on it in my notes, but try asking your DM, maybe they'll come up with something. DnD is a collaborative game

[short brook]

Got captured by a cult of religious fanatics after last combat went horribly due to sheer numbers. We break out we're fighting a much smaller amount of cultists and one of the members decided to not fight because the cult members said if you repent we won't kill you 😃

I end up getting hardcore focused as the Frontline member of the party

[remote wadi]

Honestly, my character is safe for now, but part of me wishes someone would go down just so I couldn't revive them

It's the same old "medic equivalent has to put up with party's shenanigans and berating, but only feels sorry when they're making death saves" junk

[exotic abyss]

Oof. I know that feeling

[short brook]

yeah went down within a few turns of that

[shadow vapor]

of course.

[exotic abyss]

BTW where are the class roles again?

[short brook]

Berserker Barb level 5 with tough, sad

[remote wadi]

Like, if you want to say you think our next best healer after the dead cleric is our bard (without any healing spells), then be my guest. More Hands of Healing for me

[hot marlin]

Nonsense that doesn't really apply to D&D, mostly.

[exotic abyss]

I meant server roles

So I can get a wizard icon next to me

[short brook]

Very top, says channel & roles

[undone rain]

Youll find it in the channels & roles at the top

[exotic abyss]

Won't the new character start at lvl 5, same as the party?

[short gazelle]

Hello

[hot marlin]

Oh! Yeah, you can get an icon for a class in channels & roles.

[short brook]

We'll see how it ends up going, may just end up becoming a undead considering we're in a dread realm

[exotic abyss]

I can't find it. IT doesn't have "role" or "roles" in the name?

[exotic abyss]

That'd lowkey be cool

[exotic abyss]

Hey there

[hot marlin]

id:customize

[exotic abyss]

BTW my DM allowed me to make hydrochloric acid out of green vitriol IIRC

[exotic abyss]

Yeah I meant I can't find the role channel

In id:customize

Oh wait

[hot marlin]

At the bottom, there is a "show some class" thing.

[exotic abyss]

It's in id:customize

[remote wadi]

Chat, is it acceptable behavior in DnD to ignore advice that was clearly not from the greatest source?

[hot marlin]

This needs more context

[exotic abyss]

Probably? What's the source?

And what's the advice?

[remote wadi]

Read from above. For a TLDR

Allegedly, some people in the dnd campaign i was in told me I was "trying to be the center of attention" last session when the translation was taking out goblin Archers in the distance, trying to keep our cleric alive while avoiding more arrows, and stop our Bard from crying in the corner to the point of getting the frightened condition

[fossil hollow]

...

[short brook]

Bro you're the glue 😭

[fossil hollow]

please tell me this is not the same campaign youve been telling us about before

[remote wadi]

The one with the Ranger? That one died a few weeks back. DM burnout

[delicate owl]

You should just let them die next time

Theyll learn. Or not.

[short brook]

eh but thats outside of the game, the character wouldn't do that me thinks

Low key my character has fuel to be angry at this character whenever she comes back to life

[exotic abyss]

IMHO you should discuss this shit with the players. A game where someone actively undermines your fun isn't worth it

DnD, again, is inherrently collaborative. If there's no collaboration the game doesn't work

[remote wadi]

Anyways, cut to today where DM asked me to "take a step back and remember that DnD is a collective and collaborative experience"

And for a recap of what happened today, someone found a magic coin that either damages someone within or range or yourself if you flip the coin (they immediately used it on another party member), proceeded to send almost a third of the session listening to loud background noise and the Bard constantly talking about Kpop Demon Hunters

On top of that talking being in the middle of combat and bragging about how the Bard went first, she skipped her turn anyways becajse she forgot to take more spells for the past 2 levels somehow

The only main combat we saw was one singular Black Pudding that I couldn't even damage safely because I am a monk and my daggers are limited

[exotic abyss]

Honestly just bail. You won't have fun with those people

No capmaign is better than campaign with those fools

[remote wadi]

Nah. Way too early to dip

I definitely will talk to the party, but I won't be too happy about it

[exotic abyss]

Your choice, but that's a pretty good decision

[short brook]

eh, that shit just doesn't seem fun.

[exotic abyss]

Maybe they'll figure out they're being aholes? Worth a shot at least

Also does this place have BG3 posting channel? (Not the #baldurs-gate-3-spoilers )

[fossil hollow]

thats it

[exotic abyss]

IG I'll post in #non-dnd-topics ?

[crimson gulch]

It's never to early to dip from a bad game

[remote wadi]

Oh, yeah. Did I mention that despite the coin having a discussed purpose, someone managed to make the equivalent of a 4th level spell slot with no resources used other than a bonus action?

I don't know what the idea behind praying in dnd is, but someone prayed to the coin, rolled a 64 on a percentile, and that resulted in Inflict Wounds 4??

I've gotta ask dm about it, though. Being able to do that at level 4 is a bit odd

[crimson gulch]

Calvinball dnd is what that is

The rival coin is a like cheap Magic item

[remote wadi]

The rival coin just was a cheap heads or tails for some smaller psychic damage

This was like 5d10 Necrotic as a bonus action for that outcome

Level 4, I should also mention

[lavish flame]

There isn't really stuff written for praying and what that might get you. Usually you do not get anything for prayer, save for good feelings and maybe a message you need to interpret.

[remote wadi]

Yeah, I don't know what was up with that

But being able to cast a spell like that basically 3 levels early with no large costs just because you rolled a percentile is... idk

But I will say that it doesn't bother me too much because it's a percentile. Inherently risky and unpredictable

The monk slander, on the other hand... they're really sleeping on the healing from Mercy subclass

[fathom gate]

If i cast dancing lights. Will i accidentally summon a tarrasque

[fossil hollow]

what

[exotic abyss]

You're joking, but my character was eaten by a CR 18 purple worm because our chaos sorcerer miscasted

He was casting a level 1 spell

We were level 3

[fathom gate]

You should’ve called for boblin the goblin

He solos every universe

[glad arch]

Now thats an extra wild magic sorcerer

[exotic abyss]

Apparently 13 year olds aren't allowed to hear swearing

Dumb but OK

[exotic abyss]

He solos whatever the fаck is the multiversal lore of the forgotten realms

[exotic abyss]

It was, however, funny

[fathom gate]

Wild magic sorcerer mess ups are always funny

[glad arch]

If they can summon a purple worm that has to be a crazy custom wild magic list

[exotic abyss]

IIRC it was. Also to get a read of that universe's power scaling: it was a LOTR LARP event with a DnD "dungeon" as a playable location. Sauron is CR 20, just 2 levels above what our rookie sorcerer summoned

[fossil hollow]

can he defeat the greaser though

[fathom gate]

He can even defeat youngster joey and his rattata

[burnt grove]

Anyone ever do a campaign where there are rumors that the party is doing bad things they aren’t doing strictly and they keep getting worse over time to the point businesses won’t deal with them, people run in fear? And regardless of their actual alignment heroes or villains people see them as villains hardcore evil? While it turns out the bbeg made a doppelgänger version of their party who happens to be where they left a week later sowing chaos and besmirching their reputation? Or is this a stupid idea?

[timid ferry]

ooough… i wanna join another campaign so bad but i’m already in two

i’m so dndpilled

[burnt grove]

Lucky I’m in zero and every time I join one it falls apart lol

[timid ferry]

really? :(

[burnt grove]

8 in a row not even 3 sessions

Each

[timid ferry]

aw mannn, i’m sorry!!! that sucks so bad :(

[burnt grove]

The last one fell apart in thirty minutes of play… lol

[timid ferry]

i’d like to create my own campaign one day (i already have an idea for it; it’s gonna be inspired by strahd) but i want more experience in dnd. i started playing dnd in September

[timid ferry]

this is crazy

[burnt grove]

That’s what I want before I do any dmng especially with 2024

[short brook]

I wish I could play in more campaigns but I feel like i'd stretch myself thin

[timid ferry]

yaaaa, i’m getting much more acquainted with the mechanics of things

[timid ferry]

me too!!! i also just want a sense of community and to yap to people about my OCs and stuff,,,

[burnt grove]

Stretch Mr fantastic stretch until you burst and then collapse lol

[timid ferry]

i lost a good chunk of friends lately so i’ve been kinda seeking out roleplays/roleplay-adjacent events (like dnd) to bond and get to know other people

[short brook]

That's valid, my friend circle grew increasingly small due to distance and differing paths, dnd is fun for that fo sure

[burnt grove]

Y’all have friends damn

[timid ferry]

yeahhh i got into some bad drama: i’m not gonna get into it because it’s complex but yeah, i lost one of my main communities

[short brook]

oof

[timid ferry]

i’m like more extroverted so I always have the urge to make more friends and stuff

especially in settings like these

[burnt grove]

I have two total friends lol and not because of any drama just over time lol

[short brook]

mmm definitely the opposite lol

[short brook]

Same dawg

[timid ferry]

two friends is better than zero :D

[burnt grove]

Agree

[timid ferry]

i have a good amount of friends, but only a few i’m super duper close with

[short brook]

People just come and go, having a dnd circle can be a godsend

[timid ferry]

i have this online friend who i met on roblox

it’s gonna be 9 years that we’ve known each other in october

[burnt grove]

Yea looking for friends my age that I can get more communication with ya know it’s hard just want to fight the depression lol

[meager fractal]

I still talk to people from campaigns 30 years ago today. D&D is a godsend

[burnt grove]

Hell yea

[timid ferry]

that’s so reassuring to hear: this is gonna sound quixotic but i’m an absolute fiend for long lasting/lifelong friendships

i’m resorting to immersing myself in dnd circles and campaigns to get to know like-minded people and gain more buddies

i’m in a campaign with irls and our ocs developed a father/daughter dynamic and it brought us closer as friends :’)

^ one of my irls, i should clarify

[short brook]

I've only recently had a chance to play in person dnd, and man it's a whole different ball game

[timid ferry]

it’s so fun omg