dnd-discussion

[marble lion]

im saying that while in german that is correct, the international usage of the word zweihander refers to a specific sword, not all swords that use twohands.... right?

[true whale]

So technically a bastard sword could also be a zweihander

[marble lion]

if you go and call a katana a zweihander youre just willfully negating the words use

[hollow stone]

call a katana a scimitar

[marble lion]

if you are speaking german though, you would be correct

[still plover]

There's also the option of making your own.

"This is a harangar. It's the most common type of sword where I'm from. Note the hardened chisel-shaped tip for piercing armour and the grooves along the blade to enable blood flow and the enlarged crossguard to protect the knuckles."

[marble lion]

this is like half the sword terms just meaning "sword" in their respective languages

[true whale]

So any two handed German weapon is what I’m hearing

[glossy narwhal]

The Arabian Straight Saif could be an option, since iirc, they used to be straight, before being adapted into more curved weapons for effectiveness

[marble lion]

saying then that ANY sword is that sword....

[marble lion]

no i dont think thats how that works

[still plover]

"Yeah, hut what is it?"
"It's a shortsword."

[glossy narwhal]

Isn't that the explicit name of The sword?

Not some catch all term that literally could mean anything? Like scimitar?

[marble lion]

rapier comes from ropera, a sword you have with you while dressed up. so its just a sword worn with fancy clothes

do you now say that all swords worn with fancy clothes qualify as rapier origin

no, we use the word rapier to specifically refer to a narrow group of swords i think

[sly crest]

ropa = clothes in Spanish (and is probably related to the word robe)

[glossy narwhal]

Scimitars don't exactly exist as weapons as there's no sword actually named that.

[marble lion]

yeah im sure

[lavish flame]

what are good alternate names for rapiers?

[sly crest]

don't tell Drizzt :U

[still plover]

(Did anyone mention D&D's original list of polearms yet? That's good fun.)

[sly crest]

foils and epees are also fencing swords, but idk out much they could hurt someoone

[marble lion]

a words literal meaning doesnt always match its usage

[glossy narwhal]

My character is a Bladesinger/Artificer

[marble lion]

when it comes to internationally adopted words in other languages

[true whale]

They could but they’re designed to be blunt so like

[sly crest]

there's the french estoc/tuck

[true whale]

I wouldn’t count on it but

[sly crest]

super skinny, better for poking than cutting

[marble lion]

estoc comes from the word stick stump swordpoint
is any sticky sword now an estoc?

[knotty vine]

Isn’t a zweihander a great sword?

[sly crest]

ye, they're largely used in sports

[still plover]

I get that, I'm just amused by the amount of chat that's seeming to boil down to "d6 piercing, finesse, light" or similar.

[sly crest]

yep, literally two-hander

[glossy narwhal]

Well, it's true. Many different kinds of swords could be called a scimitar. Like the curved saif, kilij, talwar, yatagan, shamshir, nimcha...

[marble lion]

just because something has a meaning in its original language doesnt mean that translation dictates the meaning of the word used in english talks about weaponry

[knotty vine]

The reason it’s called a zwei hands is because you have to use two hands

[sly crest]

so it was an umbrella term then?

[marble lion]

i dont think so

[sly crest]

yep

[glossy narwhal]

Pretty much yes

[minor cargo]

Definitely. I'd even go so far as to say it's fantastic!
/lh

[knotty vine]

But this doesn’t apply to all swords

[marble lion]

zweihander is a term used by english speakers

to refer specifically to a style of sword

otherwise theyd say twohanded sword in their own language

[knotty vine]

Some swords can be used with two hands but they can also be used with one hand like a Long sword

[glossy narwhal]

Like the Bastard Sword

[sly crest]

like the bastard sword, right?

[marble lion]

any longsword can be used in one hand

you just lack control

[glossy narwhal]

But not as effectively

[tall forge]

Me when greatswords could more realistically be using dex

Instead of strength

[marble lion]

a zweihander refers to a german type of greatsword

not any sword with 2 hands

[glossy narwhal]

There are one handed longswords like the Spatha

[knotty vine]

Yeah

[marble lion]

please stop using literal translations to broaded the meaning of terms

[oak grotto]

I would say it depends on how the greatsword is built.

[marble lion]

the reason youre using nonenglish terms for them is because they have a specific thing they reference

otherwise youd just be saying twohanded

[knotty vine]

If you had a great sword that used strength irl you wouldn’t last too long in a fight

[marble lion]

katana means onesided blade
are you gonna go around calling all kitchen knives katana now when they have only 1 edge?

you COULD but it would make absolutely no sense

[tall forge]

Swords arent really meant to be used with strength

[glossy narwhal]

Crusader sword? I'm pretty sure that falls under arming sword

[tall forge]

Cutting just isnt a strength thing

[oak grotto]

Well, I am a DnD player not a warrior.

[marble lion]

the main use i see in strength when it comes to cutting weapons is maneuvering the blade, speed, not actually forcing through the target

[knotty vine]

You don’t have to be a warrior to know that swords use dex irl

[marble lion]

speed is strength, the stronger your muscle the faster you can push or pull

[glossy narwhal]

It is. Just like the Viking sword

Damn it

[minor cargo]

Yeah, bards do it with their words at 3rd level.

[tall forge]

Yea, but getting the actual edge alignment and actively knowing how to use your body has always felt dex coded

[marble lion]

absolutely

swords need dex

but str would still benefit you for sure

[tall forge]

But i get it, strength is melee and dex is ranged…. Then there are dex melee weapons

[marble lion]

not to mention the grappling part of combat

[knotty vine]

Not as much as strength

[oak grotto]

I think we all know that DnD is a real life simulator.

[knotty vine]

Finesse

[marble lion]

once you enter heavy armour matches, strength seems a whole lot more important

[oak grotto]

*not

[marble lion]

those fights always end up as either "concuss the other the hardest" or wrestling on the ground

[woven flint]

I'm so D&D starved 😔

[tall forge]

As someone who really enjoys irl swords, its just fun to talk about how stuff like dnd has created a massive misunderstanding of swordplay

People often think “just cut harder”

[marble lion]

has it really tho

[tall forge]

Not dnd specifically, but general media depicting swords

[marble lion]

i think dnd specifically has not done that

[humble cairn]

It has tried to clarify that it is not a reality simulator.

[oak grotto]

Eat then, pookie.

[marble lion]

it creates a deeper interest in things

unlike a hollywood blockbuster number 492 this year

[woven flint]

😔 feed me

[marble lion]

those movies have oyu see bang hard and leave and be done

dnd has you immerse yourself more so id wager that many nerds actually start properly taking an interest in swords instead of just absorbing "swing hard good"

[tall forge]

I can understand that argument

[glossy narwhal]

Trying to think of good shortswords to add. Man. This ain't easy

[humble cairn]

Oh certainly, movie swordplay is not like real swordplay. Though I have heard that The Princess Bride is actually quite a decent example of swordplay for HEMA folks?

[sly crest]

you know that really big sword with the blunt end? it's called an ikkakalakka or konda sword and is actually from Central Africa!

[tall forge]

Not specifically hema but it IS great!

[glossy narwhal]

Heard of it

[oak grotto]

A satyr, a cleric of Shar and a dryad walk into a bar. What do you do?

[tall forge]

Its like, wow! Theyre doing a real great job of making it LOOK real, instead of using real sword techniques (bc real sword techniques dont look super super cool)

[woven flint]

Drink a beer with them

[sly crest]

Give the cleric a hug, because Shar definitely isn't gonna

[oak grotto]

Roll Con.

[woven flint]

15 + 2, so 17

[oak grotto]

You have beaten a satyr at a drinking contest. Congrats.

[woven flint]

Schweet

I dap him up

[umbral girder]

He casts counter spell

[marble lion]

real sword technical in my experience is literally just "shortest path to target"

creating very small short hardtofollow scenes

and no satisfying curves

well at least most of it, there are usually some coollooking parries or something i guess

[tall forge]

Pretty much yeah

There are some cool parries/feints, but it very much isnt big

Add full armor, and it becomes way messier

[humble cairn]

When you've learned just a bit about fighting techniques the stuff that looks cool to you start changing. After some training I pay a lot more attention to people's feet and stance now.

[severe fox]

i see why people enjoy paladin warlock

[humble cairn]

Oh Paladin is fun!

[severe fox]

i used shield master as well as a +2 shield to make up for lack of dex

i was almost untouchable

[tall forge]

Classic paladlock moment

[fallow lintel]

you srsly found out 2 of my characters classes

[mighty wave]

Hi guys! I'm looking for well-documented worlds that I can use for playtesting a tabletop system my son and I are working on. Where do you go when you wanna find a world?

[jagged sentinel]

I'm literally so new at this I only know 3 😅

Idk if it's even what you're asking for tho 😭.

That's how new I am

[mighty wave]

Ideally, I'm hoping to find something with like...

• a general setting, maybe a map
• basic class outlines
• even better: maybe something to motivate the characters' first decision making process (storywise)

[jagged sentinel]

Mythic Odysseys of Theros could be fun

[harsh hinge]

So many TTRPGs, D&D included, have worlds connected to them, some more intimately than others. I'd either look to games or fiction.

[idle oar]

If you like Brandon Sanderson's books, his Cosmere universe would be a rich vein of inspiration

[mighty wave]

Sweet. I'll check these out. Thanks!

[jagged sentinel]

Throne of Eldraine is a fun setting if you like fairytales. (I spent the last decade staring at gorgeous mtg card art online 😅)

[mighty wave]

Are there people out there who just like, sit around and make novel worlds, hoping someone will come along and want to play them?

[jagged sentinel]

Eldraine and Theros have guides on DnD beyond as well as physical copies

[harsh hinge]

I think it happens, but I don't think it's super common!

[tall forge]

My homebrew worlds shall stay forever in my google docs

[jagged sentinel]

Are DnD links okay to post here?

DND beyond I mean

[glossy otter]

When will we see New Phyrexia XD

[mighty wave]

I'd play your homebrew worlds

[idle oar]

Yes - WoTC/D&D owns D&DBeyond

[glossy otter]

That does remind me though, I have a feeling Duskmourn might get something with Ravenloft if Lorwyn was to go off of anything

Mind thats just a theory

[jagged sentinel]

BLOOMBURROW I FORGOT ABOUT BLOOMBURROW

The cutest plane in the WOTC multiverse

No contest

[glossy otter]

I'm honestly suprised dnd hasn't dabbled into a full mtg book for a long time

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/moot?srsltid=AfmBOoqsZ0-GzNHaHnNJ7H6_F0R1lIxc_WS59HhmRV0oWuxWCEcL4rEH

[woven flint]

My favorite plane of existence is the Abyss

[jagged sentinel]

For what they've done so far it's pretty good.

[woven flint]

I live there right now, actually

Nobody will ever know what layer

[jagged sentinel]

Prime real estate

[glossy otter]

huh, I'm suprised you didn't come to visit

[mighty wave]

Sweet! this is like right in line with what I was looking for. Thanks!

[halcyon bison]

my favorite plane of existence is the feywild

[glossy otter]

Dang, and here I can spot you from my spire lol

[halcyon bison]

The layers of the abyss are free, you can just claim them. Its not like they're going to run out

[woven flint]

Sorry, man, there's like.. a whole desert between us

[jagged sentinel]

It's a cool twist on Greek mythology, hope you and your son have fun!

[severe fox]

then you gotta deal with the fiends that live there

[glossy otter]

if going off of lore, you'd have to essentially play king of the hill for 30 days in a row

[tall forge]

Mmm… rats for lunch

[halcyon bison]

NO

[tall forge]

Oh hello Twodozen-1rats

[jagged sentinel]

You might like Eldraine

[tall forge]

I totally wasnt referencing you when i was talking about my hunger for rats

[woven flint]

So many of my silly friends here right now 🧐

[jagged sentinel]

Good gracious 🧐

[glossy otter]

or Lorwyn

[halcyon bison]

rats are not food
for some reason no one seems to understands this

[tall forge]

They said the same thing about cotton candy in my walls

[woven flint]

Everyone here is my friend :>
Thats my secret

[tall forge]

And yet, i have some in my stomach

[severe fox]

belly

[umbral girder]

I know already. It’s layer 67

[woven flint]

Damnit!!!

[umbral girder]

Lolth told me.

She being in layer 66

[tall forge]

Wow tokii! Im only 2 layers away from you!

[jagged sentinel]

What is the safest plane in the entire WOTC multiverse? I'd say Bloomburrow, and even then it has some drawbacks.

[umbral girder]

Probably the highest tiers of Mount Celestia

[woven flint]

Oh! What'd she say about my invitation to have a Picnic with Reginald?

[glossy otter]

Not necessarily as you're usually dealing with elementals that can wreak havoc at a whim

[umbral girder]

“No he’s mine”

[woven flint]

Probably the Planes of Law/Order

[jagged sentinel]

Bloomburrow I think seems to be on the outer skirts of the multiverse considering it was ignored by the Phryxians. 🤔

[umbral girder]

“In the criminal justice system-“
theme song blaring

[woven flint]

Damn

Everyone loves Reginald, huh?

[jagged sentinel]

Imagine if Soren Markov met Astarion.

[woven flint]

Gay vampires 🧐

[turbid vessel]

Gay vampires 🤤

[jagged sentinel]

Astarion would take one look at Soren and be like "Tav who?"

[stiff rock]

There aren't any playable canine races are there?

[atomic kayak]

Shifter is the closest you have for now

We are getting one later this year though (which may or may not just be a dog reskin of the Leonine)

[umbral girder]

Shifter has a werewolf/dog subraces

There is a lupine coming in June.

[severe rampart]

has anyone else here ever seen a "D&D" video and just knew that the creator has never played D&D in their life?

[lavish flame]

almost every D&D video I see reeks of "this person does not play D&D"

[severe rampart]

Usually because of the mechanics they propose and the builds right?

[lavish flame]

sometimes the vibe is "this person has never been in a functional group"

[severe rampart]

Because the one I found is the one thing I hate the most in D&D

which is the stereotypical jokes and dumbing down classes to one thing

because what the hell is an "Oath of Throwing It Back" Paladin

[minor cargo]

If Jarlaxle were a paladin, that's the oath he'd take.

[crimson gulch]

many have played, but few of them enough

[undone rain]

Oh boy the fact that i know EXACTLY who your talking about

[opaque tusk]

Is that from the Jocat one

[severe rampart]

No

[undone rain]

Its from a guy called oneshotquesters

[opaque tusk]

Oh him

Eugh

[severe rampart]

He keeps making the same tired and stereotypical jokes of DnD classes

[undone rain]

How is an oath of throwing it back even a stereotype in his standards? Who willingly has ever talked about that oath

[severe rampart]

recently also was outraged because of a kickstarter campaign (he's never played D&D in his life)

[severe rampart]

Right?

[sturdy tusk]

I have another Dumb Question
Exactly how do Artificier's Cast Spells?
It sounds... Confusing

[severe fox]

its a streotype of chirsma casters

[undone rain]

Like if he wants to be stereotypical atleast try and make it make sense

[severe rampart]

he does for some of them, like the very frail wizard that a breeze can take out

[sturdy tusk]

Im sorry Oath of what?

[severe fox]

oath of throwing it back

[sturdy tusk]

What did I stumble onto

[undone rain]

Which hes done for the past 4 damn years

[sturdy tusk]

What did I come back to???

💀

[undone rain]

Haha bard seduces dragon so funny

[sturdy tusk]

-# I mean, it is not great

[severe rampart]

In every single one of his videos, the way he portrays a paladin is that it always throws it back, holds its longsword with its hand on its back and launches it to the camera

[opaque tusk]

Only funny joke I remember him making was about Tortle players always just making Oogway because it's honestly kind of true every Tortle player I've met has made Oogway at some point

[sturdy tusk]

-# I've seen such Stuff, I prefer the No-Nonsense Build Vids or General DND Stuff

[sturdy tusk]

Lmao

[sturdy tusk]

😭
What

Uhh

-# Sorry to break your Discussion
But...
Exactly how do Artificier's Cast Spells?
It sounds... Confusing

[severe rampart]

through tools I think? or infused items

[severe fox]

like anyother spell caster

[reef tundra]

From what I know, it’s flavoured to be like them using their tools to create their spells

[severe rampart]

I mean, I used a screwdriver as a spellcasting focus for an artificer once

[reef tundra]

Since their Spellcasting focus is their tools

[sturdy tusk]

No Like, Ik that

I meant, How do we choose our Spells?

Like they're saying smthng

[severe fox]

like.. any other spell caster

[reef tundra]

Oh, then yeah like any other caster

[sturdy tusk]

-# They just said three Spell Slots

[severe fox]

theres no difference

[reef tundra]

You just pick what spells you have prepared from your spell list

[undone rain]

When i first found him, i found some videos entertaining, in fact he got me into dnd in a way. Only to find out hes become a bum who dosent even play dnd

[severe rampart]

I think they're asking lore-wise

[sturdy tusk]

-# Damn Ok

[severe fox]

spell slots and prepared spells are diffrent things

[reef tundra]

The amount of spell slots you have scales with your class level

[severe fox]

what..?

[severe rampart]

becase for wizards they get from their spellbooks and can always change it after long rests(?), and Sorcerers can cast spells because of their innate magic

[severe fox]

how do you prepare slots lore wise?

[reef tundra]

Look at the artificer spell slot progression table in their class details

[severe rampart]

Now I don't really know, but that's what I got from their question

[severe fox]

i really dont like how dnd calls all casters prepared casters now

[reef tundra]

They what?! 😭

[undone rain]

Onebumquesters. Glad to see his subs are going down

[woven flint]

What?

[severe fox]

and kept the same mechanics from known casters

[severe rampart]

Correct, he flanderized almsot every single class to oblivion

[reef tundra]

I think the only time I’ve seen the word “caster” in the game itself is the ritual caster feat. From what I’ve seen it’s just been a community term

[undone rain]

Barbarian dumb, ranger bad bla bla bla

[severe fox]

if you look in 2014 take bard for example you'll see known spells instead of prepared

[undone rain]

This man has a wife and kid too

[severe rampart]

and he was crying on the internet because of a kickstarter campaign he watched?

[reef tundra]

Isn’t there a difference between knowing a spell and preparing a spell? I can’t recall correctly though

[woven flint]

I don't see what the issue is

[reef tundra]

Oh wait I’m thinking of wizard’s spell book. Ignore me

[severe fox]

knowing means that you know those amount of spells and can only switch them on level up preparing means you can switch out your entire spell list on long rest

[undone rain]

That he didnt even donate to. The gall of him to try and speak for the community when everyones already satisfied

[severe fox]

druids and clerics mainly do switch out entire spell list on long rest

[woven flint]

Prepared Casters know all their spells but can only prepare a certain amount a day

Whereas Known learn spells and have them until they can level up and replace them

[reef tundra]

Ah alright so I’m not tripping

[severe fox]

but then dnd changed them all to prepared but kept it the exact same

[reef tundra]

Sometimes I think the negative people are just very vocal, and the majority are positive, just not as vocal or present online

[woven flint]

Clerics, Druids, Paladins, Artificers and now Rangers can
But the latter 3 can only do 1 spells for long rest

[undone rain]

I think so too. Just wish the positive had a louder voice

[severe rampart]

Exactly, min-maxed is such a passion project and for him to insult it despite not even backing it, or even having played D&D when the rest of the community is satisfied with it is insane

[woven flint]

Wizard is a weird mix because they CAN get all of their spells

[severe fox]

huh cool all half casters can do it on long rest

wizard is only whats in there spell book

[woven flint]

Yes

But they can get all of their spells eventually

[severe fox]

through i do like clerics/druid spell casting a bit more because you get spell slots depending on your spell casting mod instead of level

[undone rain]

The nerve of some people. I havent watched minmaxxed yet but i know damn well that david, the creator of minmaxxed and one of the people that took care of the money, is innocent. They kept most of their promises, only issue was sound at times thats it

[crude prairie]

am I being

[shell quarry]

so i really like grace and i helped someone homebrew an item that’s literally just grace

[reef tundra]

Recently I’ve just vowed to be more of a b to optimising preachers and keep ushering them to #optimization

[severe fox]

what is it

[shell quarry]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Ug4_kQlrkY0_EZhryfs9LzxkfLQhJP1Ls4CB0gPreo/edit?usp=drivesdk

[reef tundra]

#homebrew may be better for this

[severe fox]

hjm

[crude prairie]

unreasonable right now. I’m upset that my dm is allowing my tablemate to homebrew a class that basically makes him super OP with next to no balancing, and it’s highkey making my experience worse off because it feels like he’s indulging his main character syndrome and allowing him to save us all or steal from the party. It PMO

[severe fox]

its a decent spell

[shell quarry]

that’s a channel? i didnt see, hold on

[severe rampart]

Yeah, genuinely I love their videos, unlike oneshotquesters

[crimson gulch]

yeah thats valid to be upset over

[severe fox]

you gotta add it to your thing

[reef tundra]

Bring it up to him. Make him address it, and if it remains this way and ruins your fun, leave, find a better table for yourself

[undone rain]

They actually know how to yk make people laugh

[severe rampart]

That reaction is valid, leave the table, communicate the reasons why, tell them to do better next time

[severe fox]

i remember there was this one time that a dm made me sit out and wait 40 mins because i "Walked passed a mushroom guy"

[reef tundra]

Pointy hat and Ginny Di are the only dnd YouTubers I watch

[severe fox]

and whenever i asked him "hey why did you make me wait 40 mins to be introduce" he said "well you didnt follow the path" and sat there and said "you never said anything about a path"

[crude prairie]

I have, but the table and the people at it are otherwise great. It’s also that this player is very much an attention seeker and one of those people who craves sympathy whenever they mess up on something. Highkey manipulative ash im ngl

[severe fox]

which is why i really dont like ToTM

[crude prairie]

so if i do anything he acts overly apologetic to the point of making me look like the bad guy

[severe rampart]

there was this DMPC I had who, he recently killed the BBEG's lover, and the BBEG was enraged, instead of immediately attacking the DMPC he quote "Dash and Disengage away from me, and is going to attack this ranger who did nothing to provoke him"

[crimson gulch]

if the DM cannot manage the table to prevent issues like this, its not a good table

[severe rampart]

Leave the table

[crude prairie]

also always cheats his rolls. I’ve literally had less rolls total than he’s had rolls above a naked 15 😭😭🫩🫩

[reef tundra]

Yeah, this sounds like a terrible table. Find yourself a better one <3

[crude prairie]

i’m gonna have an actual 1on1 with DM abt it and actually address it

[severe fox]

you should leave

[crude prairie]

No it’s LITERALLY just the ONE player is the thing

[severe rampart]

That's good, if nothing changes, it's time to leave

[severe rampart]

and if they don't solve the issue with this one player?, what do you plan to do?

[severe fox]

If a toxic player is your power then what are without it

[crude prairie]

I’ll think on it but I don’t wanna make too rash of a decision when the whole game is otherwise pretty enjoyable. If that talk doesn’t address or resolve anything, I might talk with the actual player or take some time away from the table.

[severe fox]

is no one else talking about them or just you

[crude prairie]

me and some of the other players talk about it with eachother

[reef tundra]

Yeah maybe see how the others feel

Then you can all talk to the DM at once and bring up your concerns as a group

[severe fox]

yeah maybe all of you guys should talk about it to the dm

[crude prairie]

and the common consensus is that it’s annoying but it’s a bit more of a toll on the game for me than anyone

i’ll talk to DM when I’m out of classes

rather than let it boil over when this 5’3 power fantasy player rolls his 30th Nat 20 of the session 😭😭

[severe fox]

its not really apower fantasy when the player is cheating

[crude prairie]

when i started doing tabletop fantasy roleplay i didn’t think the fantasy would be an unearned hero fantasy made by a guy who only just now started his emo phase at like 21 and then wont engage with RP🫩🫩

i’m so mad too cause the rest of the table is GREAT

[severe rampart]

it's totally normal to find a problem player in the time you play D&D, there'll be more to come, what's good is that you plan on communicating to the others and the DM to resolve this issue and not letting your emotions build resentment towards the game as a whole.

[severe fox]

its been too long whens dnd getting an update

[turbid vessel]

It got an update like less than 2 years ago wdym

Or do you mean a new supplement book

In which case yeah we're all waiting for the next one

[severe fox]

rework all of dnd

[turbid vessel]

Oh then yeah they just revised 5e a bit ago. Probably gonna be a long time before we see a proper 6e, if ever

5e imo entered into the "too big to change" territory that a lot of game companies fall into, tabletop or otherwise

[crimson gulch]

we just got new core books, going to be rolling with these for about 10 more years

[lavish flame]

I was honestly hoping for some bigger leaps with the new core books, but alas

[sturdy tusk]

My DM's Allowing to take Spells from the 2024 List as well if you get it from a certain Level
Mind Sliver, Ray of Frost, Fire Bolt and Mage Hand
SHould I replace anything with Sorcerous Burst?

[turbid vessel]

I think a 6e will be the next recession indicator

[severe fox]

2024 didnt really change damaging cantrips all that much

same thing with mage hand

[lavish flame]

the day 6e gets announced is our Black Tuesday

[severe rampart]

Sometimes when I read a spell description I get so confused as to what it's used for that I just search up "Best ways to use x", is that just me?

[turbid vessel]

Sorcerous burst is a nice versatile damage cantrip, id personally replace firebolt since all the other cantrips have riders that you don't get with SB

[sturdy tusk]

-# Riders?

[sturdy tusk]

Same

[severe fox]

i usually think up of ways to use it then ask my dm if its fair play

[turbid vessel]

Sorry, short for Rider Effects, something that the cantrip does other than damage

[lavish flame]

"Riders" are additional effects after hitting (slowing someone 10ft, knocking someone back, inflicting a condition)

[sturdy tusk]

Oh Ok

[severe fox]

mind sliver doing 1d6 then removing 1d4 from the next saving throw

[sturdy tusk]

Makes Sense

[turbid vessel]

Firebolt is good damage but it does just that, damage, so it has no riders

[sturdy tusk]

I'll Do that

[severe fox]

mind sliver is so gooood

[turbid vessel]

If mind sliver has one fan it's me, if mind sliver has no fans I'm dead

[undone rain]

Its a simple cantrip, cant go wrong with it

[severe rampart]

Sometimes my players surprise me, the paladin used Thematurgy and recreated baby noises to emotionally manipulate a Specter

[still plover]

Cunning.

[solar crow]

Starting to try to plan and prepare for the final boss fight of my campaign which will start in 2 weeks and last 3 sessions, each 2 and a half hours long-😅

[severe rampart]

Rule of Cool'ed that, insanely creative

[turbid vessel]

I love spells like prestidigitation, some much potential with a creative group

[severe rampart]

a shame that the paladin died early, his spirit lives on in the monk

[dim wasp]

specters can be emotionally manipulated

also why baby noises?

[severe fox]

i understand why people love divine smite in dnd 2014

doing 6d8 radiant damage in 1 round is kinda crazy

i was also rolling crazy good

[severe rampart]

It whispered/muttered random nonsense, the only words they could deduce was "my baby"

I can't say much more, otherwise I'd be getting into spoiler territory

[woven flint]

That's horrible

[severe rampart]

it was fair game

that Specter could and would kill them

[woven flint]

I know, but that's crummy 😭

[dim wasp]

what is the nature of specters?

[dim wasp]

y?

[woven flint]

Because most undead are evil in general

[severe rampart]

Life Drain is insane, and it's evil

[severe fox]

most

[woven flint]

But like... most undead weren't evil in life so..

[dim wasp]

would the hp max drain last until the end of a long rest?

[severe fox]

some undead that arent evil stright up are ghost and revs

[dim wasp]

or when?

[woven flint]

It's the destruction of purity of life

[woven flint]

Revenants are neutral

[severe fox]

itll tell you

[severe fox]

yeah they arent evil

[severe rampart]

it'd tell you, for my campaign I made it so you'd have to do more than a long rest to restore your max hp

[woven flint]

Oh, I misread

[severe fox]

seeking revenge isnt evil

[severe rampart]

mainly because the sorcerer was accidentally desecrating graves left and right 😭

[severe fox]

mainly since most revenants are made by murder

[dim wasp]

what did u have to do

[severe rampart]

so now the sorcerer has 7 max hp

[severe fox]

well thats a vaild reason for a specter to come and beat them up

[dim wasp]

also theres not alot of early games for sunlight which is a bit weird

i typed in sunlight and theres like 1 spell

[severe fox]

if i was a ghost and someone messed with my grave i wouldnt be too happy

[severe rampart]

Oh no, they haven't cured it yet, they're going to potentially do it, next session

[turbid vessel]

Revenants are defined by being so consumed by hatred that they refuse to die until they can exact their revenge. So yeah, I can see how they're coded as evil lol

[dim wasp]

what do u ahve too do

[severe fox]

well if you were killed by someone so gruesomely that you came back as a thing only meant to seek reveange...

[dim wasp]

also whats up with the lack of sunlight spells?

[severe rampart]

Spoilers in case my players read
||Holy Ritual within the Church of Lathander||

[crimson gulch]

Daylight, level 3

[severe fox]

only in 2024*

[turbid vessel]

The circumstances that make you evil don't absolve you from being evil 🫰

[dim wasp]

i said lack of

there is one but there isnt many

[crimson gulch]

sunburst and sunbeam too

[severe fox]

3 spells

[dim wasp]

radiance dawn is locked behind a pay wall

[severe fox]

out of 100s

[dim wasp]

ok lemme look

[crimson gulch]

Dawn

[severe rampart]

Would Dawn count?

[severe fox]

4

[crimson gulch]

we dont have a million kinds of every kind of spell in dnd

[still plover]

I guess getting the power of the sun in the palm of your hand is a difficult thing to attain.

[severe rampart]

"The light of dawn shines down on a location you specify within range.", I guess one could argue that's sunlight

there are also magic items

[dim wasp]

6d8 rad damage

[severe fox]

This light is sunlight.

[dim wasp]

or 3d8 if it succeeeds

strong

[severe rampart]

oh great, 4 spell then!

[severe fox]

its legit in the next sentience

[dim wasp]

sunburst is interesting

[severe fox]

i was gonna say cause theres a few creatures with a weakness to sunlight but i think that got removed

i know kobolds dont have sunlight sen anymore

[dim wasp]

sun spells are strong

what water spells do we got for damage apart from tsunami?

there is control water

[severe rampart]

Tidal Wave?

[severe fox]

theres no drow in the 2024 monster manual?

[dim wasp]

but its only 2d8

[lavish flame]

nah, they're in the Forgotten Realms books

[rough basalt]

The MM uses generic people statblocks

[severe rampart]

4d8 isn't it?

[dim wasp]

tooth dnd has alot of pay walls

[lavish flame]

before the FR books, they were on the monster conversion table as Priests and Bandits and... Mages I think?

[rough basalt]

So if you wanna make it a specific species you just add a species trait to them.

[dim wasp]

whirlpool?

[severe fox]

they still have sunlight sen

[lavish flame]

hobbies ain't cheap

[severe rampart]

No, Tidal Wave

"On a failure, a creature takes 4d8 bludgeoning damage and is knocked prone. On a success, a creature takes half as much damage and isn’t knocked prone."

[dim wasp]

hm i was reading whirlpool

[severe fox]

i dont think spell casting is a hobby

[woven flint]

It can absolutely be

[dim wasp]

waaa

[severe rampart]

unfortunately you can't buy specific spells anymore? (I heard you used to)

[severe fox]

not a cheap hoppy at least

[dim wasp]

welp

[rough basalt]

DnD at least yeah

[dim wasp]

yk i wonder if people pirate stuff for DnD

[lavish flame]

I've known people who did stuff that they'd call Spellcasting that they would also call a hobby of theirs.

Now, literally nothing was occuring besides spoiling berries, but still

[severe fox]

i mean in dnd i doubt spell casting would be considered a hobby

[dim wasp]

is it even possible to pirate DnD stuff

[rough basalt]

If you want a lot of tabletop game content for free the tradeoff is playing crunchy pathfinder

[lavish flame]

it is outrageously easy but we arent allowed to talk about it here

[severe fox]

pretty sure talking about that is against the rules here

[dim wasp]

define crunchy

[dim wasp]

oh mbad

[severe fox]

nothing in life is free

[rough basalt]

It's a rules over rulings system.
Where dnd wanted to evolve to become streamlined, Pathfinder kept the crunch of 3.x era dnd.

[dim wasp]

are u freee today?

[humble cairn]

On account of this being the server of the official company that makes D&D and they don't want people teaching others how to pirate their stuff, which is reasonable.

[severe fox]

yeah

[rough basalt]

Pathfinder 2e is less crunchy I believe and more organized

Since it's based more off of 4th edition

[severe rampart]

welp, session got cancelled, so I have 12 hours to kill before my session DMing Curse of Strahd

[severe fox]

not a big fan of PF2

[humble cairn]

Tried it, it's crunchier than 5E. It's fine, but not to my liking.

[opaque tusk]

I'm tempted to try pathfinder since you can play as a Merfolk iirc

[lavish flame]

"crunch" in a TTRPG generally refers to system complexity and the depth of character building. D&D 5e is like a 4-5/10 on Crunch. Earlier editions like 4e and 3.5 were more crunchy, even earlier editions like 1e and 2e were less crunchy.

[rough basalt]

I meant less than PF1e mb

[severe fox]

through im also not a fan of how simple 5e has become

[rough basalt]

Basically Pathfinder is complex but if you've played 5e and actually read the rules it's not much of a jump

[dim wasp]

when r we expecting 6e lmao

[severe fox]

10 years

[rough basalt]

Being able to read is all you need for Pathfinder.

[lavish flame]

We are not currently expecting 6e I fear

[rough basalt]

As they have a dnd beyond equivalent that'll handle all the nitty gritty

[lavish flame]

I'd start expecting it in about 8 more years

[rough basalt]

Now there are some systems that are so crunchy they'll shatter your entire mouth

[dim wasp]

Dnd sure takes a toll on youee lifespan huh

[rough basalt]

Like Shadowrun 3rd Edition.

[humble cairn]

I am! 5E is the crunchiest system I can tolerate. I come form much simpler systems.

[steel oxide]

Very quick question, how does one play this online? Is there like an app I need to download?

[lavish flame]

Yeah, bought a Player's Handbook at age 11 and then time became a blur

[rough basalt]

That game had systems for its systems and subsystems for its second systems and subsystems for its subsystems

[dim wasp]

Your*

[severe fox]

i mean yeah but a lot of the builds i was dreaming to do was just crushed when 5.5e came out for good reason i suppose

[rough basalt]

Its been a toll on my mental health but now it's a Boon to it since I'm in games I enjoy now.

[humble cairn]

GURPS had books that could work as actual scientific reference manuals.

[crimson gulch]

if you dont throw out your old books you can still use em

[rough basalt]

Isn't GURPs a "choose your crunch" kinda deal?

[severe rampart]

a lot of people still use 2014

[humble cairn]

Yes, but the ceiling was ludicrously high.

[rough basalt]

Like very simple baseline but becomes like trying to get a PHD

[severe fox]

ehh even in 5e the summoning spells are disappointing to lack luster

[rough basalt]

Or several PHDs

[lavish flame]

online play is often done with a Virtual Tabletop (VTT). I use the website Roll20, some people use websites like Owlbear Rodeo or FoundryVTT, some people use apps like Tabletop Simulator or Fantasy Grounds. Thats how you do maps and stuff online. I just use Discord's Voice Chat for speaking to my players.

[severe fox]

most of them have a costly M component the earlist one being summon beast at level 2

and they only last for an hour

[still plover]

All you need is a way to communicate and share dice rolls.

[rough basalt]

GURPs is up there with Shadowrun 3e in terms of legendary crunch

[clear goblet]

No particular app, but you can always use apps to help. Like for example, using D&D Beyond for making a character sheet and looking at rules

[severe fox]

doing a summoning build in 5e just isnt worth it more often then not

[clear goblet]

Playing online just means that your communication with your party and dm is online, not really the game itself

[humble cairn]

I'm playing a Beast Master Ranger who often uses Summon Beast/Fey, and I find it quite fun.

[severe fox]

even if you use the old conjure spells they can still be taken out with a well placed AOE

[opaque tusk]

How are you meant to long rest as a Locothah if you need to be submerged every four hours

[severe rampart]

how credible is D4: D&D Deep Dive and his builds?

[humble cairn]

Yeah, my DM really guns for pets and tries to kill them so I have gotten very good at using positioning to make them less tempting targets.

[rough basalt]

Which is intended.
DnD is a coop game not a solo strategy wargame where you control a thousand units.

[crimson gulch]

Yeah that's the point reallt

[severe fox]

yeah but the fantasy of summoning 1 big guy to kill a few enemies maybe sounds really cool

but you cant do that till like level 7-9

[rough basalt]

I mean isn't that just Summon Celestial or Dragon

[dim wasp]

Okm this is gonna sound a bit dumb but when you play is there normally A class that gets the blame most of the time when something goes wrong

[severe fox]

i was thinking summon greater demon

[rough basalt]

Aight same concept.

[dim wasp]

Like jokingly or not

[rough basalt]

It makes sense that summon spells come in later on.

[severe fox]

and again those are very high level spells

[rough basalt]

Not really

[dim wasp]

Homeboom

[rough basalt]

Mid-level

[severe fox]

a 5th level spell isnt high level?

[lavish flame]

Being a Locathah adventurer is difficult and necessitates some absurd things like hauling around a bathtub or glass vat so that you can survive on land.

If you're gonna play a Locathah, maybe play in an aquatic campaign, or one with heavy pirate stuff, or a campaign set in a rainforest. I wouldn't play them in every adventure.

[severe fox]

thats like 4 levels down from 9

[dim wasp]

Do most campaigns start the players at 1,3 or 5

Or does it vary with experience?

And playstyles?

[rough basalt]

Varies

5th is the top of mid-level magic I'd say.

[humble cairn]

Have you tried out the various summons spells? Summon Beast, Summon Undead, etc? They actually work pretty smoothly.

[rough basalt]

The real crazy magic starts from 6th level on.

[lavish flame]

definitely varies, but of all the levels to start at, these are the most common 3

[severe fox]

nah cause the costly componets always get me

[dim wasp]

Where does it stop

[severe fox]

and most dms i play with dont just hand wave throughs

[rough basalt]

9th

[dim wasp]

Is the point of a new expansion patch normally to balance and simplise or does it depend?(From experience)

[severe fox]

thats just been it since like forever ago

besides like epic spells

[lavish flame]

spells stop at 9th level, where you get stuff like "Pull 4 meteors from space" and "Choose someone. They die." or "Project your spirit outside your body" you get access to 9th level spells at 17th level

[humble cairn]

It depends. What do you mean by new expansion patch? Do you mean the 2024 update? Or something like Tasha's Cauldron of Everything?

[severe fox]

i do remember 3e had some 12th level spells but again those were stupid hard to get on your hands on

[dim wasp]

Like 2024 update

[severe fox]

like 7 mill gold to cast one

[rough basalt]

2024 update was indeed to compile the fixes and bring the core up to par with the current design philosophy

As well as fully address where the corebooks failed.

[humble cairn]

That was a big overhaul that was meant to fix things people had been complaining about for ten years. That kind of thing doesn't happen often enough for their to be a regular reason for it. Don't expect another one like it for years maybe another decade.

[severe fox]

2024 did fix a few things but not enough

[plucky hull]

hello? I'm new to D&D and this server, how is everyone?

[humble cairn]

Do yuo mean to say that D&D is not a perfect game? Because like .. that's never going to be the case.

[rough basalt]

PHB being badly formatted, so new one is good formatted. DMG being bad formatted and not good at teaching you to DM (New DM guidelines started at page 200 or something and wasn't much) so new DMG focuses on being for new DMs since the old DMG is good for experienced dms.
And 2014 MM were a bunch of helpless victims to be slaughtered by PCs besides a few annoying outliers so the new MM makes the PCs the helpless victims to be slaughtered

[dim wasp]

Why isn't artificer counted as a core class?

[severe fox]

casue it was made later on

[humble cairn]

Because it's not in the PHB.

[severe fox]

it also doesnt really fit in all dnd settings unlike the core classes

[rough basalt]

If they put it in the PHB people would've screamed endlessly

[humble cairn]

Meh, this isn't a great reason. Faerun has artificers.

[severe fox]

i meant ALL

[rough basalt]

People would be calling for the heads of WotC for putting machine guns and nukes in their "medieval fantasy game" when Artificer can't make any of that and it's not medieval fantasy.

[humble cairn]

Can't really say anything about all settings.

[hot reef]

It doesn’t need to be related to technology at all, it can be just as arcane as a wizard

[dim wasp]

How does an artificer not count as homebrew ngl

Cuz it's literally engineering

[rough basalt]

Cause it's made by WotC

[humble cairn]

Because it's in an official WOTC book.

[hot reef]

Because it’s an official class

[severe fox]

its not homebrew if wizards made it

[rough basalt]

Homebrew isn't related to how it plays.

[lavish flame]

We get 3 major kinds of releases, which to me are like major content updates in a video game. We get:

• Campaign Settings, a book (or books) that details a world that D&D adventures can take place in. We recently got 2 Forgotten Realms books, an Eberron book, and are about to get a Ravenloft book, which are all different flairs of fantasy.
• Expansion Books, a book that expands on options for Players and Dungeon Masters. These books often give new Species, Subclasses, Backgrounds, and Feats to play with. Occasionally they feature a Class or they'll specialize in giving a bunch of Monsters.
• Adventure Books, a book which contains an adventure for a Dungeon Master to run for the players. It comes complete with maps, NPCs, plot hooks, a setting, and mayhe some new monsters.

[dim wasp]

How expensive is it rn for everything?

[rough basalt]

Adventure books notably ideally have those in it.

[dim wasp]

1k?

Total?

[rough basalt]

But sometimes they forget to put in compelling plot hooks

[lavish flame]

everything? well over $1k USD, probably 2k now

[hot reef]

FotA was more of an expansion book, it focused on 2024 mechanics for mostly existing Eberron features and not lore

[rough basalt]

So DM needs to fixem up

[humble cairn]

Check out the marketplace: https://marketplace.dndbeyond.com/

[severe fox]

very

i spent over 300$ on dnd just the other day :laugh

[rough basalt]

I checked yesterday and all the books I got which most were on good sales was around 1300 for official content.

[dim wasp]

Is there a community site for free community written campaigns?

[jolly canyon]

What? Should I get it? What is this book

[severe fox]

forge of the arti

[jolly canyon]

Oh I do have that nvm

[dim wasp]

I can only imagine the pain of writing a campaign,the amount of things that could happen

[idle oar]

DMsGuild has free and pay what you want community-made materials for D&D

[hot reef]

Forge of the Artificer
Only worth it if you want Eberron mechanics in 2024

[humble cairn]

DM guild is a website where you can buy TTRPG books, and many people have published adventures and such for Pay What You Want.

[rough basalt]

DMsguild has free "pay what you want" stuff but you're not getting a full length campaign for free I don't think.

[idle oar]

?tag ddb claim

[cosmic roost]

The following items on D&D Beyond can be claimed at no cost.

• Baldur's Gate 3 Set
• Borderlands Quest: Goblin Trouble
• Honor Among Thieves Bundle
• Intro to Stormwreck Isle
• LEGO: Red Dragon's Tale
• Prisoner 13
• Scions of Elemental Evil
• Unearthed Arcana Playtesting
• Uni and the Hunt for the Lost Horn
  -# = starter adventure; = digital dice

[rough basalt]

At best small adventures and one shots.

[jolly canyon]

Yee I got that. Didn't know the acronym 😅

[idle oar]

And here's some free stuff you can get from D&DBeyond

[dim wasp]

Tt

[lavish flame]

Eberron: Forge of the Artificer (5.5e) is a mechanics update to the stuff in Eberron: Rising from the Last War (5e). It has some neat additional stuff for Dungeon Masters

[dim wasp]

Ty*

[clear goblet]

It sure ain't easy, I can tell you that for free 🥀

[severe fox]

prisoner 13 is an amazing book

[dim wasp]

Tell me more for free

[rough basalt]

DnD is a very expensive hobby for dms if they want materials

[severe fox]

indeed

[jolly canyon]

Yee thanks! I even have exploring eberron. Great source books. Should've realized it was Forge but I didn't remember lol

[rough basalt]

Its one of the more "luxury" tabletops. If you want more than just the free basic stuff.

[hot reef]

ExE is great

[rough basalt]

I'd say the only tabletop game more expensive than 5e ceiling wise is Warhammer.

[jolly canyon]

Yea I really dig it

[still plover]

Never eat anything bigger than your head. Never shoot pool at a place called Pap's. Never eat food at a place called Mom's.

[dim wasp]

If groups split the cost tho it wouldn't average 0ut to around 200 to 400 per person no??

[rough basalt]

Most people aren't gonna do that

[severe fox]

yeah

[rough basalt]

That's like a forever friend group kinda thing

[severe fox]

i learned that the hard way

[idle oar]

I mean you can play just fine with the free rules and no one stops you from creating homebrew to add to that beyond some tables not allowing homebrew unless it's passed DM approval

[severe fox]

no group last forever

[severe rampart]

Words of Wisdom, add +1 to your wis ability score

[hot reef]

Doesn’t 3.5e have way more content
Not sure how it adds up

[dim wasp]

Tbh tho 2k is only like a years worth of savings

[severe fox]

yeah but you can find most of it online

[rough basalt]

I guess I should say currently supported by company tabletop systems.

[dim wasp]

Not that bad at the end of the day

[still plover]

The glory days of the OGL. Quality may vary.

[lavish flame]

Writing a campaign is honestly pretty easy. You don't have to come up with everything. You only need to come up with whatever is coming next.

My players just finished a quest, so I know they're gonna return to town to rest and recover and hang out with the townspeople for a bit. After that, they'll grab another quest and thats all I'll need to prepare.

[severe fox]

some people like to come up with everything is the issue

[rough basalt]

Yeah ultimately if you as the dm want materials you don't have to make yourself you have to get it yourself

[dim wasp]

@idle oar U got any way to make these automatically open in the app or no?

[rough basalt]

Getting books gifted from players is something you shouldn't bank on.

[idle oar]

First you have to claim them with your D&DBeyond account. Then they should be usable or readable in your D&DBeyond app.

[dim wasp]

Improve ey toot?

[clear goblet]

For free, I can tell you:
You can to know your players and/or their character ideals well enough to know what kind of things they'll do if put in a situation or given a task, and either plan ahead for whatever they might try which could completely derail the story, or just let them and rewrite the story to fit.
It's much easier to make the story as you go than to make it all at once because then you can tailor it to whatever situations the players are in and impliment their backstories into the main story in different ways (if they've made full fleshed backstories, you're going to impliment them).
Making all the NPC's from scratch is both easier and harder than it sounds

[lavish flame]

some people do anything, I shouldn't be expected to say "its easy when you don't make it unimaginably difficult"

[severe fox]

i absolutely hate when i name every important npc then a player ask what a background npc is named

[rough basalt]

Yeah for that I give out deinspiration /j

[clear goblet]

The setting dictations pretty much everything too, so you can make it easier for yourself if you make the setting one where they can just do one thing over and over and you can just change how it works to keep it interesting or smth

[clear goblet]

I HATE NPC'S SO MUCH

[lavish flame]

is that "random Disadvantage"?

[rough basalt]

DM rerolls a die of yours

[viral kraken]

Generic N. Pecee is my name, thank you for asking!

[clear goblet]

I keep making more and more new ones just for the sake of not getting jumped by the players interrogating them

[severe fox]

are a water half full or half empty type of guy

i like to ask new players that question

[clear goblet]

I made one that trapped them underground at one point by removing the floor from under them. He had no name, statblock, personallity, anything. He was a placeholder with a set motive and ability. And one of my players nearly grappled him and dragged him into the hole with them 😭

[clear goblet]

Lowkey might start doing that

[severe fox]

its a fun thing to ask

[severe rampart]

what are fun things to do before a session

[severe fox]

idk

[lavish flame]

fun things that you like doing normally. I often play video games or read D&D books or play bass. My partner likes to crochet before D&D.

[still plover]

• Come up with snappy one-liners.
• Think about what your character's looking forward to, or worried about
• Detail some aspect of your character's appearance
• Consider what they'd write in a letter home
• Revise your session notes
• Listen to their theme song

[severe rampart]

Great, thanks Mr. Mr Smith

[clear goblet]

I don't think any of my players' characters would want to write a letter home, bar 2 or 3 out of the 8, who would write death threats or insults 💀

Maybe one of them

[still plover]

Who might they want to write to, and why?

Also re: session notes, what about writing a short in-character recap of the past session?

[harsh hinge]

I used to do this all the time. Too busy these days, alas.

[clear goblet]

The recaps are a must in my book 😌

I just do those on the spot tho

[severe rampart]

Yeah, but usually a player of mine writes the recaps

if/when they're sick that's when I step in

or if they don't want to

[rigid atlas]

As a DM sly flourishes books have decent prep advice for before session

[wise kindle]

Hey has any one seen demon possession in game it sucks because there no spell to kick out the demon as cleric i I have spell for evething but not that

[rigid atlas]

One could argue banishment might work, otherwise it's likely a narrative thing to figure out in the game

Yknow some forgotten ritual or some such that you have to quest for

[wise kindle]

I try that

[still plover]

Did you try an exorcism?

[rigid atlas]

I reckon if you think the DM thinks you have a tool to sort out the issue and you don't it's always worth that out of character "hey I don't have the tools to deal with this"

[rigid atlas]

Iirc nothing RAW for exorcisms

[still plover]

Both correct, and not the point.

[halcyon bison]

Dispel evil and good can specifically end possession

[still plover]

This is good advice though. Asking the DM for information is rarely a bad idea.

[glass furnace]

Can someone help me identify a monster or different being from DnD on a picture I’m pretty new to this so I don’t know that much

[halcyon bison]

5th level spell though so you might not have easy access to it

[glass furnace]

?

[still plover]

You maybe want to share a link to the picture? Send it to https://imgbb.com

[wise kindle]

Thx dispel good and evil workd for demmon possession as cleric i use it thx everyone

[glass furnace]

https://ibb.co/3yyVqqg9

it’s a bid picture but I need to find out

[coarse ravine]

Are you playing in a game rn?

[glass furnace]

No

[rigid atlas]

Indeed, at least as a DM there have been times where I +thought+ the players had the tool to deal with a problem when in fact I got game systems twisted

[still plover]

Some kind of dark rocks with a green... something in the foreground? Is this the right image?

[rigid atlas]

Errr you got a better picture, otherwise it just looks like some rocks to my poor eyesight

[glass furnace]

No unfortunately not

[rigid atlas]

Do you have the full uncropped image?

[halcyon bison]

If you don’t have the full image, are you able to describe what it looks like in its entirety?

[glass furnace]

No I got the picture from our dm and we have to find out what it is

Any guesses what it could be

[halcyon bison]

None at all

[rigid atlas]

Pair of rocks 🤷‍♂️

Art style looks like 5e or pathfinder, leaning towards the latter, makes me think Wayne Reynolds art

[still plover]

Yeah, I got nothin'. Earth elemental. Some kind of fel... something, with the green?

[rigid atlas]

Green looks like the top of a mirror

[glass furnace]

Maybe now

https://ibb.co/Zpx583Ns

My guess until now is a black dragon

[lyric viper]

That's still a very cropped picture

Where are you seeing the full picture? In a book?

[versed leaf]

If I wanted to create a "megachurch pastor", would that be cleric or bard?

[glass furnace]

@lyric viper

[digital lintel]

depends if you want him to sing or not

[lyric viper]

Hmm, avoiding getting into a discussion on real religion- Cleric. Music proficiency isn't class locked.

[chilly mauve]

I love tank maxing :3
right now my artificer has 108 hp and 22 AC

[hybrid hornet]

Hello everyone! Can you please tell me where I can ask about the rules for the 24th year of the Warlock?

[lyric viper]

It's more about where the power is coming from in a D&D sense. From faith or from art.

[rigid atlas]

#dnd-rules

[versed leaf]

No real religions, but starting a cult. 😉

[digital lintel]

goddamn thats a lot, how far in the campaing are you.

[hybrid hornet]

Thank you 😊

[digital lintel]

a bard is more suggestive i guess

[chilly mauve]

Been in the campaign for almost two years now and we’re at level 10

[woven flint]

Warlocks ... they exist

[rigid atlas]

Could go a different angle and either a spell-thief or warlock

[lyric viper]

If it's not based on actual faith, (cult or not), but more social politics and suggestion, then yeah bard.

[woven flint]

Warlock is like, the perfect class for a suggestive cult leader 😭

[digital lintel]

what monsters are you supposed to encounter whit all that HP and AC🫩

[woven flint]

Unless there was no higher being in the first place, then yeah, Barddo

[digital lintel]

you literally a one man army

[tall lake]

I know wizards are already broken as is, but omg they are strong

[woven flint]

22 AC is like...
Nothing at higher levels lol

[versed leaf]

Yeah, no higher beings. (Until the character becomes one, maybe)

[chilly mauve]

All of them

[sleek cloud]

Wizards take 1d4 tripping over a pebble damage and perish

[umbral girder]

22 AC meeting the humble level 6 encounter

[woven flint]

Okay oneshotquesters

[digital lintel]

and thats why me my dm and my friends only play below level 15 lol

[woven flint]

Or whatever his name was

[versed leaf]

Wizards don't have HP. 😭

[woven flint]

No, I mean, like.. nothing to monsters.

22 AC is chump AC to them with a good attack bonus

[umbral girder]

laughs with a Dwarf Abjurer with the Tough feat

[rigid atlas]

Ya high level combat can be pain

[digital lintel]

sometimes their magic can turn against em, cause its a more wild kind of magic

[tall lake]

I know, but when you can lock in it's amazing

[digital lintel]

30 minutes long turns

[sleek cloud]

If only there was some wild magic sort of subclass in the game

[woven flint]

I find that Wizards and Sorcerers survive better than most other classes anyway lol
They have more tools for it!

[rigid atlas]

Dang you're fast 🤣

[sleek cloud]

Maybe something Sorcerous perhaps

[digital lintel]

lol

[umbral girder]

I got two campaigns at level 20 with extra boons and a level 16 campaign all going on now. High level games aren’t that hard to run.

My main issue is I’m running out of stat blocks

[rigid atlas]

For my tastes high level combat is often tedious with its duration

[inner silo]

How much can booming blade make up for extra attack?

[rigid atlas]

+insert grognard grumbles+

[digital lintel]

as a wizard player i can suggest not to start your first campaign with it, with a sorcerer neither

[woven flint]

Yeah, he's almost killed us, the level 16 party
With like.. Three Death Knights
Given, it was a more favorable situation for them

[umbral girder]

Haven’t experienced that either

[umbral girder]

Death Knight Aspirants actually

[tall lake]

I know, but I'm gonna play it eventually

[umbral girder]

The Cr10 variants

[sleek cloud]

Decently if you can get them to where they have to move and take that extra damage

[woven flint]

Oh, yeah, Aspirants, not even the BIGSHOTS

[umbral girder]

Not yet at least

[inner silo]

Oki, thanks

[woven flint]

If it WAS Three death Knights, I think we would've died lol

[digital lintel]

wizard is very hard to play cause it dies very easily

[woven flint]

Especially considering Sora wasn't there to help sweep up

[tall lake]

I know

[umbral girder]

Yeah all the legendary actions and high bonus to hits

[umbral girder]

The way like 1 AOE would have hurt Sora’s character and he wasn’t there was amusing

[digital lintel]

my first sorcerer character died fighting my first dragon, i was brokenhearted

[woven flint]

I'll say it again
If you have a decent party and knowledge of spells
Wizards probably are the most survivable class of the bunch

[inner silo]

If multiclassing swords bard and hexblade how much would you go into either for a more martial build?

[digital lintel]

it depends

[woven flint]

Yeah.. on what spells you take

[rigid atlas]

Ya I have unfortunately, granted I also have issues with how CR is in 5e but that's a rabbit hole of me bellyaching

[umbral girder]

2024 did a lot of good guides on handling CR thankfully

I thought Flee, Mortal’s system was tougher than 2014’s but good god not anymore

2024 went stronger

[woven flint]

Out of ALL The Casters, Cleric probably has the most survivability, I don't hear many stories of them dying often lol

[rigid atlas]

Desperately needed

[inner silo]

The party couldn't afford it

[tall lake]

I'm playing bard currently so I know what to do

[woven flint]

Yeah, more times than not, parties'll fight to keep their Clerics alive loo

[tall lake]

Stay in the back, if someone needs to be healed risk it

[umbral girder]

Yeah that War Cleric you played was nuts in that game we ran that reached level 20

[woven flint]

Especially considering he was the ONLY Frontliner

[rigid atlas]

5es CR was better than 3es but that's like saying getting into a head on collision is better than driving off the top of the Grand Canyon, while true neither are...good

[tall lake]

Yeah I saw light domain cleric... HOLY that class looks fun

[sleek cloud]

I hope I play one some day

[woven flint]

Karkas is probably the scariest Cleric I've ever played
He was quite literally a One Man Army lol

[tall lake]

I want to try either grave or light for my first Cleric

[inner silo]

Tbh it's probably them but druids give them a decent run for their money

[tall lake]

Actually good point

[rigid atlas]

Grave is fun

[umbral girder]

Karkas makes the top 3 most powerful PCs at my games I’ve run so far

[digital lintel]

cleric is broken asl

[woven flint]

That's AWESOME tbh lol

[umbral girder]

Amusingly I just realized my top 3 OP characters I’ve run for are Fighter, Wizard, and Cleric

The OG classes

[rigid atlas]

Better than it has been 🤣

[tall lake]

Fact check me, wild shape is own health?

[inner silo]

War clerics are underrated ngl

[umbral girder]

2014 yes 2024 no

[rigid atlas]

Newest edition I don't believe so

[tall lake]

Yeah I only have played 2014 rn

[lone crow]

Hey yo I'm a pugilist in dnd any advice for the class?

[uncut zenith]

iirc in 2024 Wild Shape gives you temp HP instead of using your own health pool

[umbral girder]

2024 you get a temp hp boost. You get to stay in wild shape even if you lose the temp HP. Also you can talk in wild shape

[woven flint]

I wish we could've calculated how much Damage Karkas tanked for the party because they barely ever had a scratch on them lol

[umbral girder]

Idk those Balors did great work on him

[tall lake]

I'm so used to 2014 5e, plus I prefer some stuff in that edition

[digital lintel]

thats a new class so irdk, i heard its quite good but also weird

[umbral girder]

He did get hurt a lot he just had double 9th level healings casted

[lone crow]

Ahh alright appreciate it

[tall lake]

I still hate the fact they made you have to get level 3 for Warlock subclass

[uncut zenith]

Imo if you’ve played a monk, you’re not gonna have a hard time playing a pugilist

They’re fundamentally very similar

[woven flint]

Oh yeah!
I used my Divine Intervention Simulacrum before casting my 9th level spell lmaooo

[empty thicket]

what is the difference between them at this point?

[still plover]

Ah, but an invocation to start with, that's nice. Pacts as invocations, I like.

[umbral girder]

2024 Cleric getting the ability to cast two 9th level spells in a day is amusing

[uncut zenith]

Monks rely on DEX, Pugilists rely on STR

[inner silo]

What's divine intervention?

[rigid atlas]

I get it, spreading out benefits so folks don't just splash a single level of warlock for a build

[umbral girder]

A cleric ability to ask their God for help

[inner silo]

Is it like a wish spell?

[empty thicket]

oh, okey okey

[tall lake]

Yeah, but like I was fine with it mostly for backstories

[woven flint]

I can proudly say
Karkas absolutely carried our Wizard, Sorcerer and Fighter lol

[umbral girder]

The 20th level version yes

[inner silo]

Dam

[umbral girder]

The 10th level version only replicates a 5th level or lower cleric spell

Also has a cooldown of a week.

[inner silo]

Sounds pretty cool

[umbral girder]

It was. Tokii used his to cast Simulacrum to clone himself mid fight

[rigid atlas]

Honestly I'm not huge on warlocks as a class, I much prefer Faustian deals being an event during the campaign not as backstory but this falls into being a grog

[umbral girder]

I reflavored it as his god sending in an Avatar of himself to help

[frail wasp]

sending someone an avatar of themselves sounds like a weird sort of flex

[rigid atlas]

I mean...the gods ain't exactly the subtle type normally speaking

[tall lake]

Yeah you can do some wild with Cleric

[rigid atlas]

Especially if a cleric of theirs manages to meaningfully beseech them to intercede

[wraith kelp]

guys i got idea for a character but idk how to make it

[tall lake]

Your god can just literally call down a nuke

It's genuinely wild

[woven flint]

It was awesome

The God of Vengeance himself coming to help his Loyal soldier avenge his army

[umbral girder]

Considering around level 9 a caster can actually talk to a god it’s not unreasonable for a level 20 character to summon one

[tall lake]

Oh that is dope

[empty thicket]

what you have in mind buddy?

[woven flint]

Yeah, Karkas was a Tiefling War Cleric

His Deity was Hoar, The Doombringer, THE Ceo of Vengeance himself.

[tall lake]

Recently I had to make a sacrifice recently of replacing call lighting for counter spell

[wraith kelp]

exrocist of some kind or a ghost hunter

[empty thicket]

How you would make it work? any more details?

[inner silo]

Is there a way to play a skeleton in dnd?

[woven flint]

Karkas' and his Deity absolutely DESTROYED a lich.
We didn't kill him once, but TWICE because he tried to come back and spin the block on us, our Fighter destroyed his Phylactery

[umbral girder]

Reborn from Ravenloft

[digital lintel]

i once played a sadic paladin who was basically a redirector and who wanted always to get hit by the enemies

[wraith kelp]

well idk i just started to watch the conjuring so i got an idea

or maybe a fortune teller

[digital lintel]

i apologize for my shitty english

[tall lake]

Dang it I thought of an idea for the grave cleric

[inner silo]

What are some subclasses for a pirate except swashbuckler and swords bard?

[tall lake]

You can flavor battle master

[umbral girder]

Fighter

Fighter and Rogue are the “we can fit almost anywhere” classes

[minor cargo]

In 2014, there's an Oath of the Open Sea 👀

[woven flint]

"Violence repays violence. Evil repays evil. Good repays good. These are the tenets of Hoar, who brings justice and retribution to each according to their actions. Allowances? Excuses set forth to falsely acquit the condemned. Allowances exploit, pervert, and impede the course of justice. If you cannot see this, we've nothing to discuss."

The Doombringers Clerics are CRAZY by the way lmao

[empty thicket]

Banneret fighter and be the captain buffing your allies and being the front line.
Drunk path monk can work
some ranger can work with a shark or "Parrot" (eagle)

[tall lake]

Literally you can play anything as a pirate

[inner silo]

Does it transfer to 2024 well?

[umbral girder]

A cleric for appeasing sea gods

A warlock to anger those sea gods

[empty thicket]

Artificer can work for like the crazy gunpowder guy in the ship or the map guy too.

[inner silo]

Banneret fighter+swashbuckler multiclass maybe?

[empty thicket]

maybe, i dont multiclass recommend too much

[tall lake]

You could also do storm sorcerer and control the winds

[empty thicket]

Druid and act like a siren

[inner silo]

Sounds cool

Though I'm going for a bit more martial

[minor cargo]

About as well as any other 2014 subclass. It'll probably be fine, but maaaaaay require a bit of tweaking after you play with it a bit.

This paladin subclass is more about pushing and mobility so that also factors into how "good" it is in a campaign (sometimes being mobile is good against some enemies).

[tall lake]

Then do fighter or whatever class

[inner silo]

Alrighty, thanks!

[empty thicket]

Wizard is like fighter, rarely dont fit in any setting

[empty thicket]

Fighter banneret (The captain)
Rogue work with any subclass
Monk (Drunk path)
Barbarian its... the only kinda weird to make it work but meh, classic crazy guy who speak few and fight lot

[halcyon bison]

Necromancers make excellent pirates.

[inner silo]

Necromancers?

[halcyon bison]

They can make a crew that doesn’t need sleep, food, or water, won’t mutiny, and get replenished by fighting

[inner silo]

I guess that's efficient

[inner silo]

Especially for like a cursed pirate crew

[halcyon bison]

Aye
I mean yes

[inner silo]

Thanks for the idea!

[arctic roost]

hi everybody

i want to know: what is the most annoying enemy in d&d?

i don't have much of a preference, but i hate zombies just because they can come back to life

[minor cargo]

Hard to say the most annoying, but I definitely want to shout out black puddings and other ozzes that have the split mechanic.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/5194925-black-pudding

[umbral girder]

Rakshasa is annoying if you got spellcasting players

[severe fox]

guys i have a question about the arch priest

it doesnt have a stated size catogry do i just give it one or

[umbral girder]

Says “Medium or Small” for me

[severe fox]

ah

i see it now you just have to click on the stat block

[rough basalt]

Use rakshasas against all spellcaster parties /hj

[severe fox]

i was just looking and the death knight got hella buffed

[reef tundra]

I’ve put a Rakshasa in my plan for my current campaign. I am nervous

[crimson gulch]

Oh me too, the new Stat block is one i havent taken for a spin yet

[umbral girder]

I have and it’s pretty good

Especially if you use two death knights

[severe fox]

for some reason the death knight is now a legendary creation

[umbral girder]

Or a death knight with a death knight aspirant

[reef tundra]

I think I’ll use the 5.5e stat block because my party isn’t high level enough for 7th level spells

[severe fox]

getting its own legendary actions and legendary resistance

[reef tundra]

It has been since 2014

And likely before

[severe fox]

yeah but in 2014 mm it didnt have any LR or actions

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/17128-death-knight

[arctic roost]

yeah, those are obnoxious-- having more of them to deal with can throw off the battle

[severe fox]

so i dont think it would be considred legendary

[crimson gulch]

yeah and its awesome

[severe fox]

its hell fire orb is also a recharge instead of once per day

[reef tundra]

Oh wait you’re right, my b

Hmmm, no clue why I thought it was

[reef tundra]

I do love death knights

[severe fox]

im comparing a lot of monsters from 2014 to 2024

so many buffs

[crimson gulch]

yeah its great

[reef tundra]

And I’m happy they made aspirants for parties in tier 2 can enjoy fighting then

And also to further the Commander feel with death knights

[severe fox]

yeah its pretty much a lesser death knight

[crimson gulch]

i still use the old features for a few monsters

Banshees for one

[reef tundra]

Yeah same, I like combining both versions

[severe fox]

yeah im pretty sure all "if you fail a saving throw you drop to 0 hp" were removed

like the demiliches ability is another one that comes to mind

[reef tundra]

I remember I used the Banshee’s old shriek attack well in a campaign once

The villain was a Lich and during a negotiation, he brought ten banshees who were ordered to start screaming if the party attacked

[severe fox]

a banshee shriek could tpk a party but i doubt it ever would

[crimson gulch]

i once Dropped 4/6 players with 2 banshees

[severe fox]

the save is like 13 right?

[crimson gulch]

the rogue and fighter fed a potion to the bard and healing spells came from there

[marble maple]

Got a dnd hypothetical: if, as a Warrior of Mercy Monk who knows a few Cleric spells (Magic Initiate), used Cure Wounds/Healing Word to restore a Undead's physical body, could I then use Hand of Ultimate Mercy to resurrect that Undead creature?

[severe fox]

i still wonder why Aarakocra were made into
Elementals in the new book

theres a lot less humanoids in dnd 5.5e

[reef tundra]

I noticed that too. Lizardfolk and Merfolk went into the elemental territory too

[severe fox]

very interesting

goblins are more fey like now and kobolds are dragons

[crimson gulch]

i would say no, because in general the only thing that can raise a creatre that was undead is a True Ressurection

[severe fox]

also the Abominable Yeti has to be my favorite creature

[crimson gulch]

healing magics such as cure wounds dont cure the rot of undead and repair a body

[marble maple]

Damn, thought I found a loophole

[reef tundra]

I never tried it, although I’d love to one day

[severe fox]

another dnd creautre i adore is a Arcanaloth

them being able to banish you with just a smack is so cool

[still plover]

I like your spirit, though. Perhaps if you did it with a big ritual of some kind, possibly a sacrifice of your own. One to ask the DM about. Go study some forbidden lore, eh?

[severe fox]

i remember there was this one time where my character was so angry with a BBEG that the dm allowed me to take a dark bargen

[reef tundra]

I quite like yogoloths, I find them so neglected.

[woven flint]

Arcanaloths are cool

[marble maple]

Will do. My Mercy Monk is a followe of Ilmater so she would gladly take any kind of sacrifice on to herself

[woven flint]

They can trap your soul in their flesh book

[reef tundra]

I’ve been experimenting with a yugolord as I called them, in my setting, and it’s actually been pretty fun

[severe fox]

yogoloaths just kinda do there own thing not as important as demons and devils in lore

cause you know blood war

[reef tundra]

Well, Yugoloths are helping fuel the blood war by supplying both sides with weapons so they can profit off it

[woven flint]

They're absolutely still important

[severe fox]

also i know its just a mechanical thing mostly but seeing "short or long rest" on a creature stat block just shocks me a little bit

[reef tundra]

I decided to try bump up their importance by making Yugoloths in my setting responsible for the creation of orcs

[severe fox]

not as important as there brothers and sisters

[reef tundra]

Certainly to WOTC

[severe fox]

WOTC just doesnt care about them as much as demons and devils at least in 5e

[reef tundra]

And to me because I love devils so much more

[woven flint]

Demons, Devils and Yugoloths are INCREDIBLY too different to be called as such.

Yugoloths are important because of the type of Evil they represent

[reef tundra]

Yeah :(

[woven flint]

Yugoloths are true selfish beings doing as they can to get by

[severe fox]

theres also just not that much

[woven flint]

They don't care about War, Politics or any of the such, but they benefit from it so they engage in it

[feral fulcrum]

Your Neutraulness, it is a Beige alert. Shall we prepare the mild malevolence?

[reef tundra]

I remember my Yugolord was called “The Eternal Temptation”, a figure who wants to prove anyone and anything has the same greed as a yugoloth, and thus spends its eternal life tempting good beings into becoming just as greedy as them

I really wanna use it more

Although not on the level of Asmodeus and Demogorgon, it was nice to give Yugoloths a big lore figure

[prime pewter]

Need some fun ideas on how a GOOlock met his patron. I don't really know tho. What I do know is that this GOO is imprisoned in some of object, as if they were let free they would wreck havoc on this plane. They are also a lover of games, so maybe they are imprisoned in like a bauble or trinket?

[severe fox]

what is a goolock

[marble maple]

Great old one Warlock

[woven flint]

Does anyone else ever think about how terrifying demons would be in D&D if they were more willing to actually work together amongst themselves?

Infinite army of Demonic beings that want to destroy and subjugate all..

[fossil shuttle]

The PC crashed their boat into the GOO. The PC needed to survive, the GOO wants to be free

[craggy summit]

They absolutely would be. I just finished BGDIA and if all the fiends wasn't going at eachothers throats, they could WALLOP anyone

[woven flint]

The GOO came to the being in their dream and they had a pleasant conversation 🧐

[fossil shuttle]

As an infernal tiefling fiend warlock player, the blood war is bad enough as is