dnd-discussion

[true whale]

I’m so proud of myself I don’t know how I guessed that

[reef tundra]

Close enough

[sturdy tusk]

They are cool

-# My First Character was actually a Reborn Dragonborn Pirate who was given the Powers of Fathomless and his goal? To destroy the one person who betrayed him and killed his crew, a Marionette, his Vice Captain

[undone rain]

Im an oath of glory/redemption myself

[sturdy tusk]

Tho I do think it is not the Best in Lore

[sturdy tusk]

Devotion. You're devoted to feeding your Weapon Blood lmao
-# No Srsly, make yourself devoted to your hometown maybe if you'll take it

Redemption sounds cool tho

[umbral girder]

Why do you keep doing that to your text?

[sturdy tusk]

Do what?

-# This?

[undone rain]

I like all oaths ngl (aside from conquest i dont like being evil)

[sturdy tusk]

Sorry, Force of habit I talk a Lot like this with my Friends

[reef tundra]

Those are really cool too

[undone rain]

Most ill go is anti villain paladin oathbreaker or vengeance

[sturdy tusk]

You can do a Conquest to help your City Perhaps?
Like in DBD, Aditis You're making a Religious Crusade to a Particular Palace

[reef tundra]

-# I also like the small text

[true whale]

Woah
-# that’s silly

[reef tundra]

Big text is fun too

[sturdy tusk]

I agree

-# It CAN Be annoying tho

[glass granite]

Ok now it’s forced

[umbral girder]

Mainly because mods usually step in when text is messed to much.

[undone rain]

Idk they feel more like lawful evil type, rule with an iron fist

[sturdy tusk]

Ah, I mean

[true whale]

Big text is very annoying

-# But then you can go really small afterwards

[sturdy tusk]

Makes Sense

[sturdy tusk]

Lmao

[fallow lintel]

h o w

[undone rain]

I love em, ive played both. First as a redemption, then my guy broke his oath and after a while sought a new oath, the oath of glory

[lyric viper]

Be careful with using too much formatting as it can feel a li'l disruptive and hard to read.

[fallow lintel]

..

[sturdy tusk]

Oh Damn

Cool

[undone rain]

Paladin oaths are simply dazzling with flavor

[true whale]

“#” then a space after the little hashtag and then the message

[sturdy tusk]

-# Ok

[true whale]

sorry

[fallow lintel]

mkmk

[lyric viper]

ooooh, Redemption to Glory feels like a sucker punch.

That's a story there

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah
How about a Vengeance to Redemption?

[lyric viper]

An actual redemption arch.

[undone rain]

I feel like its a good story of trying to do better. Being better then you used to be

[sturdy tusk]

Like in your Rage, you destroyed many villages, and so you wish do gain redemption?

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah

[lyric viper]

I love 'fallen' paladins in 5e that don't go Oathbreaker but fall from one ideal/oath to another.

[sturdy tusk]

How About Fathomless to Celestial?

[sturdy tusk]

That does sound cool

[undone rain]

Sounds pretty good

[sturdy tusk]

Like your God, ascends and becomes Radiant

[umbral girder]

That feels more Conquest to Redemption than Vengeance to Redemption

[sturdy tusk]

Transforming your Powers as well

[sturdy tusk]

-# I mean yeah

[umbral girder]

Since Vengeance is more about healing the hurt and punishing the evil.

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah...

[lyric viper]

I read it as one that used to try and give mercy to others and believe in the best of the worst, to personal valor- but could be they have succeeded at redeeming others and now encourage them.

[undone rain]

I should do that again. Like an oath of the crown, once serving a noble lord, but when his heir took over. He turned corrupt and thus said paladin breaks his oath. Thats a good example of breaking an oath for the greater good

[true whale]

My homebrewery has reached a new level of bs chat this is gonna be peak

[lyric viper]

I also liked the concept of the Treachery Paladin from UA, as another flavour of Oathbreaker. Rather than embodying the rage and anger at oaths, it was the chaotic rebellion against them.

[sturdy tusk]

Well,
I am planning for a Campaign with Friends who actually played DND before.
My Friend just shared their DND Character with us, and it is well, More or less, a Contrast/mirror to My Character
They're playing a Pansexual Fairy, Glamour Bard, who is 4'2 and just loves the world. Such a Sweet Character, who's searching for their maybe-dead Lover.
Im just an Aroace, Genderfluid Warforged, Shadow Sorcerer who is 6'10, and sees others as tools to help him find his Illithid Master. Moreso neutral, only searching for heir master

We also Share the same in CHA, INT and DEX Scores. We both are searching for someone, Share Sylvan and Common Language, MageHand Cantrip, AC and Initiative lmao

[undone rain]

Oooo i like that

[round bay]

Do you guys like Arcane Tricksters? Do you think they're broken?

[sturdy tusk]

-# Not Paladin, but the Contrast is Funny

And No, We Did NOT Collab on this

[lyric viper]

That is a very fun mirror and contrast.

[sturdy tusk]

Uhh, Do Wizards learn Booming Blade as a Cantrip?

[round bay]

No idea never wizarded before

[umbral girder]

Yes they do

[sturdy tusk]

Ikr?
It was extremely funny seeing the differences

[sturdy tusk]

Then Booming Blade on a Dagger

Throw the Dagger

-# Unless it only works on Melee Attacks, Then just stab then, Dash and Disengage

[sturdy tusk]

-# Along with that we both Rolled stats and got similar Stats

[glass granite]

Yeah it only works in 5ft melee attacks

But I do really like booming blade on my rogues

[sturdy tusk]

Ah, Stab-Dash and Disengage Then, Or Minor Illusion
Be a Skill Monkey

[sturdy tusk]

Hear me Out, Monk/Wizard?

Booming Blade on a Monk Weapon that deals Slashing

[glass granite]

That’s MAD as hell, you lose focus the more you go wizard and you lose spell slots the more you go monk.

[umbral girder]

Melee only and Booming Blade uses the weapons stats and doesn’t work with Extra attack unless you got specific subclasses

[sturdy tusk]

Then you hit them and Run away

[glass granite]

Rogues do that infinitely better tho

[sturdy tusk]

-# I like Crazy
Hmm

[sturdy tusk]

I can Agree with That

Rogues just like that

[glass granite]

You lose out on monk stats, extra attack, unarmed strikes, and hp

You gain nothing

[sturdy tusk]

Tho Soulknife and Wizard, prob Divination or Smthng

You say Phrophecies like this guy dies
He dies the Next day, cuz you kill them with Soulknife

[glass granite]

I like rogue and sorcerer actually

[sturdy tusk]

-# That sounds cool

[glass granite]

Booming blade is still on the table, but you also can quicken spell booming blade and Ready your action for potentially two sneak attacks in a round

[sturdy tusk]

Damn Cool

How about Spellcaster/Eldritch Knight?

-# Wait whats the Thing for EK again? Spellcasting ability

[glass granite]

That’s still MAD, what’s its benefit? Fighters can handle MAD more easily tho

Intelligence

[sturdy tusk]

Bladesinger/Eldritch Knight?
-# Tbf, Its better on its Own

[umbral girder]

Fighters get 2 more ability scores increases or feats so long as you get a lot more levels in fighter

[glass granite]

What’s the benefit of eldritch knight there tho? I do agree that mono classing just fits better

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah

[umbral girder]

Feels like pointless Multiclassing for the sake of Multiclassing

[sturdy tusk]

-# Hmm... Changeling Fiend Warlock with Mask of Many Faces and Devil's Sight

[sturdy tusk]

-# Just an Idea, Lets forget bout that

[sturdy tusk]

-# Ultimate Spy maybe, if you take a Bit rogue?

[worn lagoon]

basically any other wizard would bring more to the table in a 11 fighter 9 wizard split

[storm magnet]

What’s the strongest monster a large group of villagers could kill? If they had farming equipment

An ankheg?

Large being like 50 or so

[umbral girder]

Hard to say for Ankheg

AOE attack and burrow speed help a ton

[storm magnet]

A revenant then?

[umbral girder]

The thing that can’t die?

[storm magnet]

It can be incapacitated via injuries no?

[flint ledge]

Not that it's stat block says

[umbral girder]

You specified that they can kill not incapacitated

[storm magnet]

That’s fair

[umbral girder]

Also the 2024 version just gets back up from 0 hp with its troll like regen

[storm magnet]

I was imagining a backwater village that was cursed to be extremely murderous/murderous to any outsiders or threats. Was wondering what kinda monster corpora’s surrounding the village would tell a player “Oh shit these guys are crazy.”

Like they’d willingly give up limbs if it meant eliminating their target

[umbral girder]

You could do a band of Gnolls

A reverse of the Gnolls leaving behind of gore of people it’s now people leaving piles of gore of Gnolls

[storm magnet]

Ooo that’s cool

[umbral girder]

Or a band of kobolds and a Wyrmling dragon

For the classic bit. Maybe they got lucky against the baby dragon

Kobolds fight in big numbers, but not like 50 people

[storm magnet]

Maybe they choked the baby dragon to death with their corpses

[umbral girder]

You could also use the Tribal Warrior stats block or Tough stat blocks for hardier villagers

[lyric viper]

Getting a li'l dark in here 👀

[flint ledge]

Yea I was gonna say you could just change the commoners stat blocks a little bit

[storm magnet]

Ig logistically a village like that couldn’t survive if they were warding off stuff like merchants/outside aid, but I suppose a party could just find them when they’re on the brink of collapse

[umbral girder]

I had a level 15 player freak out over a token thinking they were super dangerous by the stat block name

“He is literally called Tough!”

[storm magnet]

How would you guys create a scenario for a pc/party to interact with the villagers without having to fight them? I was thinking maybe the party finds a singular villager caught in a trap or something. Manages to free them, cure their individual curse (or be seen as a non-outsider to the villagers without having) and thus gain acceptance?

[flint ledge]

Technically they could, if they survive off their crops and animals or even go out and hunt

[minor cargo]

In a lot of zombie media, if you need to show the monster without instantly a conflict, the classic solution is “a fence” - a way to keep them physically separate but able to see.

This can be a glass wall, one way mirror, an overhang or rafters, or a fast moving body of water. Would any of those types of solutions work?

[storm magnet]

Ooo maybe. Like the villagers, realizing how they’re a threat to others and how they’re losing many members of their community, build a fence to keep themselves in to avoid seeing any outsiders or monsters.

And the PCs can talk to the village leaders through the walls/fence without triggering the curse

[long oriole]

I have a question about themes... Which kind of stories do you prefer: The Vagabond or The Hero? If you can, also list your preferred role: DM or Player.

[umbral girder]

The Hero and usually the DM.

[minor cargo]

The Hero is usually easier to DM. Not saying Vagabond is HARD to DM for; it depends on the situation.

[umbral girder]

I like playing as a guy who does good deeds in every RPG I play

[kind torrent]

Vagabond

[crimson gulch]

My stories take people and make them heros regardless of what they were before

[stuck crystal]

how come no one had an idea of making frogs into main source of in-universe meats
like irl theyre already dirt cheap and easy to raise

[kind torrent]

Vagabond who practically plays the role of hero at the end but has different motives

[stuck crystal]

imagine just making frog stew for your party

[umbral girder]

Bullywug rights

[woven flint]

I awaken...!!!

[flint ledge]

Well, think of it this way, how many people do you know that would eat frog?

[storm magnet]

Aren’t frogs in locations where there’re a lot of monsters? Like swamps and stuff

[umbral girder]

Counterspell

[lyric viper]

A few

[woven flint]

... I asleepen!

[long oriole]

Mostly because of the cannibalism as the frogs eat each other as often as the normal feed in western cultivation spots I think?

[flint ledge]

Didn't I speak to you a few hours ago Tokii? How much did you sleep...

[umbral girder]

Yeah Black Dragons, Hags, Bullwugs, Hydras, and mummies hang out in swamps

[hot marlin]

Tokii may or may not be an elf, and as such requires no sleep

[flint ledge]

Lizardfolk also hang out in swamps I'm sure they munch on frogs

[umbral girder]

They also munch on people too

[lyric viper]

I've eaten frog, but they don't actually have much meat on 'em. And aren't as easy to breed and raise the same way fish or rabbits or so on are.

[woven flint]

"I'm gonna feed my party frogs!"

The absolutely LIVID Slaad about to eat my face:

[umbral girder]

In fact Lizardfolk prefer to munch on people

[lyric viper]

Giant frogs maybe, but they'd absolutely try to eat you back.

[woven flint]

Slaadi are my favorite monsters :>

[hot marlin]

Frogs are not only edible, but pretty good if you cook them correctly. They are, however, very hard to cook correctly

[umbral girder]

“I know what you are but what am I?” -Giant Frog probably

[woven flint]

I slept for about... 3 or so hours :]

[livid owl]

Sorry tokii, you don't get the benefits of a long rest and take 1 point of exhaustion

[long oriole]

'Makes them Heros' is a interesting take. Is this because you let them make the choice and they always take it or is it because it's the only choice to continue the story?

[flint ledge]

I advise you to sleep more in the future

[stuck crystal]

oh i see i see

yeah thats on me my bad

[woven flint]

I just.. WILL myself to wake up and be energetic because I'm built different 🧐 /silly

[flint ledge]

Though I'm gonna make the wild guess that that's never going to happen

[lyric viper]

honestly, I wonder how viable giant bugs are for eating >.>

[long oriole]

Thank you for your answer 🙂

[stuck crystal]

buddy bugs irl are very much viable for eating

[lyric viper]

I know. I eat 'em

[stuck crystal]

OHHH my bad

[woven flint]

Nah, I'd win
Exhaustion ain't nothing to me

[long oriole]

That's respectable, thanks for your input!

[stuck crystal]

i had a chance to try a dried pulpa from china

[lyric viper]

I'm just wondering if the giant ones would be worth the extra protien.

[livid owl]

I had a friend who ate candied bee larva and she didn't like it only because it tasted too much like ham, and she doesn't like ham lol

[stuck crystal]

hm on other hand bugs arent exactly caloric

[lyric viper]

Smoked locusts are so good.

[stuck crystal]

talking fat and protein ratio

[umbral girder]

Giant bugs moment

[stuck crystal]

they couldnt possibly feed a family on their own

[woven flint]

I couldn't eat bugs because I'm a bug lover at heart

[umbral girder]

Just gotta eat the 10ftx10ft sized spider

[livid owl]

I love bugs and have eaten bugs. Hmmmm

[stuck crystal]

not even hornets?

[woven flint]

Bugs are my buddies

[flint ledge]

Fun fact: Giant wasps are medium sized

[stuck crystal]

you wouldnt eat a hornet? really?

i would cuz i hate em

[long oriole]

Is this because being the preen Good guy avoids most sour flavors and moral divides between the party?

[woven flint]

... of course not 💀

[umbral girder]

Taking a note, send the Hell Hornets to Tokii next session /jk

[stuck crystal]

i would out of spite

[lyric viper]

Ride 'em with a small sized PC.

[stuck crystal]

easily worst of bee cousins

[crimson gulch]

i present problems that Threaten the party and who and what they love, and they rise to the occasion

[stuck crystal]

worse than wasps

[livid owl]

I'm love bugs.... Even the stinging ones

[stuck crystal]

what about mosquitos

[lyric viper]

I feel like we're just stumbling into Dungeon Meshi logic or figuring out what D&D creatures to eat.

[storm magnet]

Can you live on eating fungi

[stuck crystal]

yes-ish
just that youd need specific fungi

certain mushrooms are more caloric than the other

but if we are talkiung about common button? no

[crimson gulch]

my last TOA game became Delicious in jungle

[umbral girder]

This bug talk reminds me of the former Pirate Scorpion with a Spelljammer my players met

Not a giant scorpion. Just a scorpion.

[flint ledge]

Now I have an image of giant wasps stealing small sized people

[stuck crystal]

i do wonder how scoprion in sugar glaze would taste like

[hot marlin]

In theory, if giant bugs breed at a similar speed to normal sized bugs, they would be an amazing source of food

[lyric viper]

Gotta keep an eye on them or they'll be swooped off.

[crimson gulch]

wrong cronch

[stuck crystal]

they kinda look yummy
imagine a scorpion with eggs

[woven flint]

Was Reginald there?

[livid owl]

Jimmy Neutron hamster eagle gif

[flint ledge]

Definitely would make for fantasy stories

[storm magnet]

Do insectoid races have brains in the traditional sense?

[stuck crystal]

nah there is no wrong crunch
just crunch youre not prepared for

[lyric viper]

Ah, the true way to make D&D crunchy.

[umbral girder]

Oddly psionic in fact

[lyric viper]

Crunch bug

[stuck crystal]

i always thought that their brains were just distributed across whole body

[storm magnet]

Like how irl bugs just have their whole bodies be brains

[crimson gulch]

its a viceral reaction that i cant un think, Wrong Cronch is eternal

[long oriole]

Hmm... A definitional conflict i see. I don't count on being a 'Hero' by just doing things that benifit themselves. I'll have to work on that. Thank you

[livid owl]

That's an interesting question because thri-kreen are straight up telepathic somehow

[stuck crystal]

speaking of which how come people dont eat more brains in dnd?
like very caloric part of an animal body

how come brains arent a delicacy

[hot marlin]

But to determine if an animal can be bred for food consumption, you have to take so many things into account. Number of offspring per year, edible calories, maturation rate, calories fed per year, land use, water consumption, disease risks, nutritional value...

[woven flint]

Thri-Kreen use Pheromones to communicate telepathically with creatures

[crimson gulch]

mindflayers ruined it for everyone

[umbral girder]

Mind flayers own the copyright

[livid owl]

Some people do
They're called mindlfayers!

[stuck crystal]

forgot about these fellas

[stuck crystal]

aw shucks

[lyric viper]

Liekly hood of them eating you...

[stuck crystal]

ironically irl its the bears that eat surprising amount of fish brain

thats how they gain so much weight

[long oriole]

People don't take the cooking skill.

[hot marlin]

Extremely high cholesterol and risk of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

[livid owl]

How do the other creatures understand is my question though, if it IS pheromones.

Since humans don't and aren't built for that kind of communication

[crimson gulch]

dnd is not ment for that level of granularity when it comes down to it

[storm magnet]

Eating brains consistently gets you sick/prion disease I thought

[stuck crystal]

i thought the latter only applied to cannibalism

[woven flint]

Thri-Kreen probably tell people how they communicate lol

[stuck crystal]

i know prion happens because of cannibalism

[livid owl]

How do they tell people if they can't actually physically speak?

-# I know the answer is it's a fantasy game don't think on it too hard BUT I like thinking about it ok?

[umbral girder]

Psionics

[woven flint]

Logistically, they probably write, their telepathy must be with a willing creature

[hot marlin]

Many mammal brain may carry prions that cause the symptoms of Creutzfeld-Jakob

[stuck crystal]

huh the more you know! ive learned a new thing today

[hot marlin]

Cross-species transmission is possible, though not universal

[stuck crystal]

i feel like frog brains would be a safe pick tho

or fish brain

i might be completely wrong

[hot marlin]

They are a safe pick.

[livid owl]

Now picturing a thri kreen with a little business card that just says 'i speak telepathically. Please listen.' for everyone they meet lol

[storm magnet]

How would a pseudodragon interact with a trikreen

[hot marlin]

As a kid, the brain was my favorite part of the fish

[stuck crystal]

hm? you dont just filet it ? what culture is that

if i may ask

[hot marlin]

But mammal brains?... Eh. The more similar the brain is to a human brain, the more risky it is as it may carry a prion capable of infecting you

[woven flint]

He's French.... or a Fiend!

[livid owl]

I've never tried brain and after learning of prion disease I don't think I want to anymore LOL

I'd absolutely try it if that wasn't a risk

[stuck crystal]

oh nah i thought that he was serbian

they eat whole fish

[stuck crystal]

so as long as its not mammal youre safe

[hot marlin]

It was just grilled fish, very simple. But my favorite part was sucking out the brain. And the eye, I remember I liked the eyes a lot too

[woven flint]

I used to think Incubus was German because I was tired and got confused with his accent 😭

[stuck crystal]

might be an original experience but im glad you enjoy it!

[stuck crystal]

but now im curious
what are you nationality wise?

[hot marlin]

Now do bear in mind that cow brains are cooked and served, and they're pretty good

[hot marlin]

Well, I am not from the lower planes despite what some people have been rudely implying

[stuck crystal]

oh youre croatian!

[stuck crystal]

theyre also expensive af

[woven flint]

Okay, Incubus!
Thats what they all say!

Don't believe his lies or friendly and quiet frankly, nice voice!

[storm magnet]

Is there any monster that is weak to getting pets?

[livid owl]

Beast types

MAYBE the occasional abomination

[hot marlin]

None

[glad arch]

If you pet hard enough anything vulnerable to bludgeoning

[storm magnet]

I thought almost all creatures like to be pet/scratched

[glad arch]

I feel like the lich is gonna be quite indifferent when you try to pet it

[lavish flame]

Gray Renders my beloved

[glad arch]

If anything trying to pet a lich makes sure your the target for their pwk

[hot marlin]

Yeah no. Petting behaviour, meaning someone else scratching you, is a social thing. The animal needs to consider the petter to be a non-threat and somehow part of their "social circle", for lack of a better term.

In other words, try to pet a wild fox you met in the forest, you will be needing the rabies vaccine under twenty four hours

[storm magnet]

What about a pseudodragon

They can sense you aren’t a threat

[woven flint]

Baphomet would eviscerate you

[hot marlin]

Considering that they're just as smart as people and, quite honestly, likely smarter than most of us in this server, treat pseudodragons as people.

[woven flint]

Most intelligent creatures would probably prefer you to ask

[dapper wigeon]

What would be the best way for me to make a custom wild shape statblock?

[hot marlin]

Do you know many human beings who would enjoy it if a complete stranger walked up to them and started petting them like a dog?

[storm magnet]

Oh I thought they had cat level intelligence

[hot marlin]

Do that to me and... Yeah, I'll bite you and you will need to get a rabies vaccine under twenty four hours.

[woven flint]

.. a very strange subsect

[reef tundra]

If they asked I might let them /silly

[reef tundra]

… I feel called out /j

[woven flint]

You ARE Strange
But in a good way

[hot marlin]

Yeah, I carry rabies. I made myself a carrier of plenty of diseases, as a deterrent.

[reef tundra]

The blight bearer

[woven flint]

The Plague incarnate

[glad arch]

Laughs in paladin, i am the rabies vaccine

[woven flint]

Incubus isn't a fiend

He's just your average New York rat

[hot marlin]

It's a trick I found as a kid. That way, if I got into a fight, I could guarantee that even if I lost, the other guy would be in the hospital at best. Judge ruled that it does not count as homicide. But that's because I threatened to bite him

(Disclaimer: This is all nonsense, please do not infect yourself with diseases on purpose, and do not threaten to bite judges)

[reef copper]

The way i viewed 10 int is as equal to 100 iq. So by that logic pseudo dragons are smarter than most here more likely than not

Plus that 12 wisdom

[hot marlin]

(You'd think the disclaimer would not be needed, but the world we live in has me doubting everything I thought was certain)

[glad arch]

10 int is your normal commoner, so about on the same intellect as a normal person

[woven flint]

I wouldn't compare INT to average IQ because the Scaling kinda gets weird

[storm magnet]

Can a revenant have a really complex thought out machiavellian-like plan to get revenge on someone, or do they just default to murder only

[lyric viper]

You had me for a moment, not gonna lie. Was googling if rabies was contagious post rabies shot.

[glad arch]

And?

[woven flint]

Yes, they could, they're capable of thought just full of rage

[storm magnet]

Like if they wanted to usurp their target from their political position and humiliate them over years before killing them

[glad arch]

13 int, 16 wis i dont see why not. Even without that if yiure the dm make a special case why this one is different from the average one

[reef copper]

Anything is particular? I view all stats as more rare than the previous jump.
8-12 are common 20 is super rare. Etc

Basically all stats use normal distribution

Imo

[umbral girder]

Also IQ as a concept is rather yikes too

[woven flint]

1 is construct

30 is most intelligent being in the multiverse

[glad arch]

Dont most gods not have a statblock, whos to tell how intelligent gods are

[woven flint]

I believe there is ONE creature with 30 intelligence D&D-wise
And he's from Ravnica, I believe?

[umbral girder]

Vlaakith has 30 INT

[woven flint]

Ah, Vlaakith and the Dragon I'm talking about

[umbral girder]

Vlaakith with big brain with them Psionics and wizardry

[lyric viper]

There is very little data. But human to human cases are apparently very rare and none recorded through bites.

[woven flint]

Believe it or not, Deities can have below average stats

[hot marlin]

Worth noting: Attributes go from 1 to 30.
You can be twice as smart as Vlaakith (though whether or not intelligence can even be quantified like this is a huge scientific debate) and you would still "only" have 30.

[hot marlin]

There is a god of stupidity.

[umbral girder]

Vecna /jk

[hot marlin]

Gods are not naturally better at everything than non-gods. You can be smarter than a given god. You can be stronger than a given god.

[woven flint]

Gruumsh and his Son are both very uh... unintelligent beings for certain

[hot marlin]

Oh no, Gruumsh is smart. But one of his sons is so dumb it's impressive

[glad arch]

True but im sure theres some very intelligent gods, like a god of knowledge

[hot marlin]

But honestly, there's a good chance even Gruumsh is only, like... 16 int smart.

[storm magnet]

How does one become a feral vampire?

[hot marlin]

Become a vampire. Become feral. It's not hard

[woven flint]

Starving yourself of blood for one, I believe

[small heath]

Question: is there any pre-existing lore or connection between tieflings and aasimars?

[storm magnet]

How does a previously intelligent being become feral? Has that ever happened?

[buoyant oar]

I think Zariel has the highest combined stat value. IIRC

[umbral girder]

Zariel is just built different

DnD Doomslayer

[reef copper]

Intelligence is also one of those things that people attribute to different things. Like does having Wikipedia linked to your brain make you smarter or does it have no effect. A lot of people would have different takes

[buoyant oar]

27 24 28 26 27 30

[umbral girder]

Zariel being able to move 660ft a round

[glad arch]

Bros zooming

[hot marlin]

I take it you've never heard of Robert Downey Jr in the nineties? The man was an animal in the nineties. His agent had to catch him with a butterfly net.

[umbral girder]

And her melee attack also being an AOE. She justs strong.

[undone rain]

The hell? A rounds 6 seconds holy shit man

[true whale]

Let me introduce you to my favourite piece of homebrew, swarm of zariels

[umbral girder]

She’s basically a DBZ character

[woven flint]

I love RDJ
I'm glad he turned his life around

[glad arch]

Yeh cause the 162 total stats wasnt enough yet

[umbral girder]

I got 2 TPKs with Zariel

[buoyant oar]

She is probably the best original villain 5e has created imo. In terms of game play and narrative tone. I know she existed before but most of her lore comes from 5e

[umbral girder]

The first time was “why would you drive a car into Zariel?”

[buoyant oar]

They cooked hard with babygirl

[true whale]

Fr!

[undone rain]

The flashs grandma fr

[umbral girder]

The other time was a “stall her as long as possible” fight

[glad arch]

21Ac, 580hp, proficiency in all mental saves. This woman is insane

[woven flint]

I'm a certified Zariel HATRER, but that's because I dislike the Archdevils in general
The Demon Princes are just more fun!

[umbral girder]

Regen that negates dying at 0hp till it’s stopped too

I think a +8d8 fire damage to all her attacks too

[glad arch]

Yep

[umbral girder]

No wonder she is in the frontlines of the blood war

[undone rain]

8d8????

[reef tundra]

Zariel is a beast

[umbral girder]

Added weapon damage too and her strength

Don’t forget her multiattacks

[reef tundra]

And she can tell people to spontaneously combust

[reef copper]

Tbh with the scale of the war she would hardly make a big difference

[marble lion]

praise be, dnd mushroom demon lady

[umbral girder]

I always say to my DiA players

“Don’t build Doomslayer in D&D. There already is one and she rules Avernus.”

[undone rain]

If she rolled all 8s that would be 64 damage on fire damage alone

[glad arch]

'Only' 4d10 damage tbf

[hot marlin]

The worst part is that Mephistopheles and Asmodeus are both a lot more powerful than Zariel

[woven flint]

Zuggy :3

[true whale]

If she has multiattacks that bonus damage would increase

[undone rain]

Shes a beast

[reef tundra]

Yeah my dad’s pretty cool

[glad arch]

2 attacks

[woven flint]

The Forge Cleric when Zariel tries to hit them with fire damage:

[true whale]

Yeah so a max of 128 fire damage per turn

[glad arch]

Incredibly low odds

[umbral girder]

I thought she had 3 attacks

[undone rain]

Low but never 0

[lavish flame]

One of my players gave me a bit og backstory gold. They've got a connection to a Demon Lord, but they don't know who. I've decided its Fraz-Urb'Luu

[umbral girder]

Yeah she has 3 attacks

[glad arch]

You dont even need to take max to make it strong 72 extra fire damage on average is still strong

[true whale]

Fym it’s dnd

It’s either max damage or min damage

[undone rain]

192 max damage on fire

[true whale]

There are no other options

[woven flint]

Really gave them the bottom of the barrel 😭

[umbral girder]

Oh yeah she can Blind, Poison, and Deafen a target too at the same time

[hot marlin]

I once played a warlock with a pact with old Fraz. Always refered to him as "My master Fraz-Urb'Luu" and sometimes added "who is a bit of a prick, but an excellent conversationalist"

[glad arch]

I cast sensory deprivation

[umbral girder]

Love Zariel’s lair action is just “she casts Fireball”

Also “major image of every one you love being tortured”

[woven flint]

Yeenoghu is just a better conversationalist

[reef copper]

She should include their realtime location too :3

[crimson gulch]

Zarial is such a good charicter in the game

the second villan i ever made a custom heroforge for

[true whale]

I’m trying to homebrew a class that can technically blind and deafen everything in an area dependent on how you build them

[lavish flame]

nah don't sleep on Fraz-Urb'Luu

[umbral girder]

Zariel cultists get a free Critical hit too

[true whale]

They are not immune to this either btw

[lavish flame]

Demon Lord of deception and illusions, you can do a lot with that

[glad arch]

So basically, zariel is an absolute nightmare of girlbossery

[umbral girder]

Tiamat is Gatekeep, Zariel is Girlboss, is Asmodeus Gaslight?

[true whale]

Zariel is bald right?

[lavish flame]

yeah

[true whale]

Just gotta confirm

[umbral girder]

Currently with a flaming halo yes

[woven flint]

I dunno
my favorites are Zuggy, Baphomet and Juliblex, personally

[reef copper]

Tiamat seems more like a girlboss imo

[crimson gulch]

Yep, shes on the cover of the Bald'ers Gate book afterall

[umbral girder]

Tiamat literally gate keeps

[undone rain]

Perfect for vicious mockery

[umbral girder]

Like that’s actually her job. She gatekeeps the rest of the Hells

[umbral girder]

Her +16 and Magic resistance says “yes I shaved it myself”

[true whale]

Excellent for my absolute unit of a bard

Throughout the ENTIRE CAMPAIGN

This man took ZERO DAMGE

[reef copper]

Ok fine she can be lady boss instead

[glad arch]

Did your dm forget you exist

[true whale]

and dealt ZERO DAMAGE

[umbral girder]

Zariel “my hair looks better than the mop you wear”

[true whale]

NO THE GODS JUST CURSED ALL ROLLS FOR AND AGAINST ME

[still plover]

Warlock with custom patron? All it would need is a tweak to the patron spell lists, if that.

[crimson gulch]

new goal with Zarial, get her to burn all the hair off of someone calling her bald

[undone rain]

Lmaooooo. Untouchable but also cant touch anything

[umbral girder]

Zariel would remove their scalp

[true whale]

The HB class is gonna be a mix of a half caster and a third caster tbh

[glad arch]

Zariel would just remove them

[true whale]

It’s gonna have a lot of bs that kills everything including themselves

[reef copper]

So half with cantrips?

[true whale]

I’m not really sure how it’s going to work rn but I’m gonna make it work

[still plover]

Ah. Good luck with that. Someone's already suggested the #homebrew channel, I hope?

[true whale]

The original idea was a stage magician who can’t cast magic but I was made aware of detect magic

[glad arch]

5/12th casters, the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper

Before long were gonna get 2i/27th casters

[true whale]

Ah yes i have been using it for assistance along with the discord of many things homebrew channels

[true whale]

Thanks for the idea I’ll get back to you on that

[reef copper]

Bot probably

[glad arch]

It will truly be the most complex class

[true whale]

I’m going to make it so that it’s a different class depending on the time of day frfr

[past sedge]

Hii

I am a newbie

[true whale]

Oh your combat encounter went over into 1pm? You aren’t a spellcaster anymore good luck buddy

[hot marlin]

Hi a newbie, I'm Incubus

[glad arch]

If im not solving intergrals and solving complex equations why am i even playing dnd

[hot marlin]

Oh god, the dad joke has now possessed me

[glad arch]

Nugget? You changed your name?

[past sedge]

I have created a character in d&d what to do now?

[true whale]

Wait you’re right I need to make a different class for every hour of the year

[reef copper]

That sounds like a pickupline of a bad flick film

[glad arch]

Im assuming youd like to play in a game

[past sedge]

From where to start the game

[true whale]

#find-a-game

[still plover]

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[glad arch]

Ty smith

Alternativly you can look in your local area, facebook groups, game stores, local forums for in person games

[true whale]

Discord of many things is good as well

Discord servers I found that are good are this one, domt, and the pokemon showdown dnd server, which is a smaller server where like everyone knows everyone

[rough basalt]

Getting close to being done with one country in my homebrew setting guide.

[normal canyon]

Can I use #looking-for-dm to find a co dm

[fair summit]

I'd say yeah, since it's basically same as looking for a DM anyways

[undone rain]

Takes some time to find a group

[heavy frigate]

How does one play DnD😭 i wanted to play it for the longest time

[heavy frigate]

Truee truee

[livid owl]

What's holding you up so far? The rules, or finding a group?

[heavy frigate]

Both i'm pretty sure, pretty much new to this, i've liked DnD for awhile but never actually played it

[livid owl]

Check the pins in #dnd-newcomers , it has resources for reading up on the rules of the game in one nice convenient spot!

As for finding a game, firstly, are you open to an online game or want a irl group?

[heavy frigate]

Ohh i see thank you thank you i'll take a look into it!! Both sounds good sure thing

[livid owl]

Yea! Once you're done reading through the rules, #find-a-game instructs you on how to use the game organizing channels on this server. DND games aren't hosted in this server specifically, but people advertise their games here.

I personally have only ever played online and prefer it that way, if you DO want an IRL game I suggest looking into local game stores in your area or clubs possibly (not as familiar with finding irl games obviously)

[heavy frigate]

Of coursee thank you so much!!!

[tacit pike]

Body

[empty wharf]

So I have one player who had been obsessed with RE9 recently. I have never played the games but I know they are very action packed and full of zombies. I want to write an encounter that captures some of that. I want it to be scary and difficult if they decide to fight and heart pounding to try and sneek through.

[hot marlin]

I mean if it's about body horror, just describe your character doing horrific things to the body of enemies

Body horror is not really a complex genre, it's kind of reverse cartoon. In cartoons, the body is also mutilated, but it bounces right back, you know? In body horror the focus is on the permanent mutilation, the horror of the inside being outside.

I like body horror, don't get me wrong. I watched Hellraiser far too young and loved every second of it.

[still plover]

Give one of 'em a tentacle attack like a roper, and another a mutated club-like arm that does Topple.

How about some spore bulbs to sneak past? Failure releases a cloud of poison and draws nearby zombies at speed. Could be used by the party to lure them away with a ranged attack.

[empty wharf]

Oh I really like that spore idea

[ornate topaz]

Is the pugilist class any fun/good compared to fighter?

[jovial shadow]

Puglist is the uncouth Monk alt

[woven flint]

Speaking of Body Horror
In North Carolina, there's a kinda creepy Urban Legend called the "Not Deer" basically beings that look like deer but upon closer inspection are not, wether they have deformed heads, Extra Limbs, or just parts that don't belong to them and are known for extremely erratic behavior.
They're kinda their equivalent to a Skinwalker.

Realistically, though, it's most likely related to Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in which an animals cells breakdown and decay while they're still living, if you want inspiration, I'd highly suggest looking into it, but, also, be careful when looking for images

[undone rain]

I feel like blood hunters are like unofficially official if you get my meaning

[hot marlin]

I honestly do not get the meaning

First off "official" is not an inherent quality. It is a relational one. To which office? Meaning, official according to which standard?

[undone rain]

What i mean is that bloodhunters are homebrew but its treated as an official class

[hot marlin]

Treated by whom as an official class?

[undone rain]

Idk the community?

[lean wigeon]

no

[undone rain]

Ahh forget it

Im too tired to explain

[woven flint]

I don't think anyone treats it as official lol

[atomic kayak]

They definitely arent treated that way

[umbral girder]

No?

[undone rain]

Yes yes yes i get it move on im an idiot ik

[atomic kayak]

Not generally at least

By the portion of the community that considers anything on ddb as official? Sure maybe

[hot marlin]

Blood hunter has the same status for WOTC as the Illrigger, warden and monster hunter.

They are third party classes that are on D&D Beyond, from material not originating from WOTC but partnered.

[undone rain]

Well thats what i meant, i think

[lean wigeon]

what's this pugilist class anyway

[flint ledge]

Isn't puglist also partnered now

[hot marlin]

The Blood Hunter is official. To Critical Role. In the same way that the Monster Hunter is official to Grim Hollow

Yes the Pugilist is partnered

[flint ledge]

Which imo is wild cause they basically made a better monk

[woven flint]

It's definetly not "Better Monk" per-say

It does a little bit of Monk and a Little bit of Barbarian

[flint ledge]

Okay let me rephrase, a lot of the features are basically like the monk ones and are better

[woven flint]

I still wouldn't say that.
Pugilist has a LOT of "Charge based" class features and a lot of drawback for certain features.

[hot marlin]

I admit I have a huge dislike of the Pugilist class, mostly due to the way it's written

[woven flint]

Monk is still, indeed, the stronger class.

Nobody can do Monk better than Monk, tbh

[valid geyser]

I think pugilist at least in the level 5-10 range is really strong due to its high consistent damage. It’s like, action surge fighter damage basically every turn due to haymaker

[hot marlin]

And after that range?

[primal wolf]

but it's "Action Surge" Damage with unarmed. Hex+Eldirtch Blast is more impressive

[valid geyser]

Not really. It being not dice dependant makes it way more consistent. Guaranteed 40 damage a turn is very strong
Being said I mostly prefer to say it’s super strong in comparison to melee characters and not OP in general

And there is the matter of resource dependency, it can burn its moxie in one fight, but it also might consistently hit and keep most of it

[atomic kayak]

I really hate the partnered category because its. Not useful.

There is official content that is partnered. Namely the entirety of the Wildemount and Netherdeep books. Those are first party official things.

Stuff like Grim Hollow is third party and not official.

(Ironically, this means that the blood hunter monster statblock is official and the class isn't)

[primal wolf]

where are you getting guaranteed 40 damage from

[valid geyser]

Haymaker

[hot marlin]

What I mean, and what I was trying to put the focus on, is that nothing is just official. Content is official to a given source.

[craggy summit]

With puglist? 2 attacks, then their flurry of blows equivalent combined with haymaker for automax damage

[hot marlin]

If I put out a homebrew, it is official to me. And only to me.

[woven flint]

Haymaker at level 5 and Extra attack + being a 1d10 each hit + One-Two Punch attacking two more times

[craggy summit]

Assuming every attack hits

[hot marlin]

This is why the term "official" is not that useful

[valid geyser]

Yeah that is the assumption. Theres definitely things you can do to better your chances like grappling or dread hands free reroll on a miss per turn but luck will be a factor

[flint ledge]

Maybe it's my hatred for guaranteed max damage speaking, what I'm wanting to say is personally I don't like it, just feels like someone stuffed monk and barbarian together

[rough basalt]

I think that was the intention

[valid geyser]

I think haymaker just needs like, a limit. 2014 pugilist sucked butt because it overdid it’s downsides, but 2024 made most of its features be able to skip around downsides

[woven flint]

Then just don't use the feature if you don't want to

[primal wolf]

that explains it "The old one-two" is on world anvil but not on the dndbeyond version

[woven flint]

I know I'm not going to unless I feel like I can kill something lol

[valid geyser]

It’s just called one-two punch on ddb

[craggy summit]

The downside of losing a moxie point if you miss isn't a big enough limit, Especially if you're attacking with advantage. It shouldve been once per turn

[woven flint]

That's probably gonna be my self imposed limit on my Pugilist I'm playing

[valid geyser]

Probably, yeah. It’s kinda reminiscent of 2014 monk’s reliance on stunning strike spam

[primal wolf]

you right

[craggy summit]

I do the same, I also feel like doing that would just destroy the DM's encounters and I don't wanna do that, because he homebrewed everything

[hot marlin]

It's a bit like "canon" now that I think about it. It's a very weird term, when used without context. Canon to who? No canon exists without an authority making a list of what is part of their canon or not.

[woven flint]

I'm playing a Dog & Hound Pugilist..
Which, honestly? Pretty strong subclass, I'm realizing lol

[primal wolf]

still that's 1 moxie + 1 gambled

[craggy summit]

I'm playing the sweet science one (boxing) and I'm fond of it, I'll have to try out some of the other subclasses someday tho 👀

[woven flint]

The dog can just
Grapple, Prone, Push, whatever on each of its attacks and its Strength Saves only for it in particular

[craggy summit]

Okay that actually sounds pretty good ngl

[primal wolf]

you've only got 3 moxie at 5th, so it's not super reliable yet

[woven flint]

So like
I can grapple something and my dog could grapple something and we're just kinda pseudo-control lol

Last session we played, my Dog grappled a Kenku and moved it to the rest of their group to set up my bard for a nice Shatter, it was pretty sick

[woven flint]

Then like.. at level 6, it can use its reaction to give you an extra 3d4 on an attack lol

Which adds up especially when you consider Haymaker

[craggy summit]

Is there a limit to how many times that can be used? 🤔

[woven flint]

Nope, but it's only one attack per turn lol
And the dogs reaction

[valid geyser]

Once per turn because they got one reaction but otherwise no

[craggy summit]

That's still pretty dang good tho 👀

I was just wondering if it's something that's like, you can use it an amount of times thats equal to proficiency bonus before needing a rest or something like that

[woven flint]

That's also the Level that the Dog and Pugilist can turn their attacks into Force Damage too

[craggy summit]

that feeling when there's so many characters and classes you wanna play but not enough campaigns for it 😔

[woven flint]

I'll realistically never use Force unless something is resistant to bludgeoning or piercing tbh lol

[craggy summit]

And even then, I think puglist gets the whole "unarmed strikes are magical" thing at a certain point iirc 🤔

[woven flint]

That's 2014 pugilist

2024 rules don't care about magical or nonmagical BPS anymore, that's why it's changed to Force damage instead

[craggy summit]

Ahhhh okay 🙂‍↕️

[woven flint]

I, personally, would love a party with a Pugilist, Monk and Barbarian.
Imagine the HELLISH jumping enemies would face

.. then the ranged flying enemy appears

[limber trail]

…oops all aarakocra?

[woven flint]

Aarakocra, Owlin and Fairy

[atomic kayak]

Never seen anyone use it like that. Every time I see people saying official (in the context of dnd) they have meant "official dnd product" - in which case there definitely is a meaning to it

[undone rain]

Yesssss i found another group at last

Gonna play a celestial warlock

[valid geyser]

I think official content should be defined based on pragmatism and not just on technicality

When people ask about official content. It’s most usually asked based on what content should normally be allowed, so saying “well official is a subjective term so everything can count some way or another” isn’t helpful to that statement

[delicate owl]

Like how Exploring Eberron is third party, even though the creator is the one who essentially created Eberron in the first place.

[still plover]

Shine on, you crazy diamond.

[atomic kayak]

More than essentially lol. He straight up did

[atomic kayak]

Yea, its a metric that is generally useful and has a pretty commonly agreed upon, if not definition, at least usage

[umbral girder]

Mega Bonk party

[odd shuttle]

Hey guys anyone have a DND beyond character sheet that’s empty that I can swipe?

[fathom eagle]

i'm not too sure about how DND Beyond works but don't they also provide empty character sheets?

[hot marlin]

I have been in quite a few conversations where the meaning of the word "official" was unclear, muddying up the conversation. While, admittedly, in the context of D&D, it should only refer to WOTC official, I have spent more than enough conversations with people using it in other ways.

Resulting in misunderstandings that often escalated

But perhaps I should not base my reluctance to use the word on fringe cases. Those conversations are, all in all, rather rare

[umbral girder]

It’s on the My Characters page

[odd shuttle]

I looked at it and it looked really weird from the one that was used for me-

[umbral girder]

And in the PHBs on dnd beyond

[fathom eagle]

fair enough

[atomic kayak]

Closest ive seen to that is people thinking "on ddb = official" - which has never been the case, or accurate. But still

[jagged sentinel]

Do you sometimes notice that evil magic users in media sometimes wear more "modern" designs than traditional? Just a thought I had while watching Honor Among Thieves.

[glossy otter]

So, hows everyone doing today?

[hidden spindle]

Hungry. Humid. And for lunch are my reserves: 🍿

[crimson gulch]

https://media.dndbeyond.com/compendium-images/br/ph/character-sheet.pdf

Here you go

[odd shuttle]

Thank you I really really appreciate it but this isn’t the sheet that mine is one I looked at the website and mine looks completely different

[crimson gulch]

yeah this is a blank normal charicter sheet that appears in the new Players handbook

there are a few different styles out there

[south prawn]

Beyond exports its own modified version of the 2014 5e sheet

I haven’t seen that exact one as a blank anywhere

[odd shuttle]

Ohh ok thank you sm 🙏🏻 I appreciate it

[jagged sentinel]

Just fine, thank you. And you?

[turbid sand]

can paladin 5e smite more than 1 time in one turn?

[humble cairn]

Paladin '14 can Divine Smite (specifically) as many times per turn as they have attacks and spell slots for fuel.

[turbid sand]

ahh i guess th dm hates me..

[humble cairn]

Are they getting confused with the 2024 rules? In 2024 Divine Smite costs a Bonus Action.

[turbid vessel]

Might also just be the DM house ruling it

I've seen that houserule in games before

[turbid sand]

we did play in 2014 rules

[turbid sand]

hmm, he shouldve said it first

i didnt see any house rules being applied

[long oriole]

Has anyone actually had a PC craft a magic item in a 2024 game yet?

[rough basalt]

Not yet.

[humble cairn]

Specifically using the crafting rules? I think someone might have in my game, but we were also mixing Heliana's Guide to Monster Hunting in there a bit. It's actually pretty easy to use Bastion facilities to craft items, though. Just throw money at the correct facility and you can craft a lot of things.

[rough basalt]

Rn my Monday game has a Bastion so eventually it'll probably make some magic items.

[humble cairn]

And you can have the Bastion do it in the background, too, while the PCs are off adventuring.

[woven flint]

Dungeons & Dragons & Craft

[humble cairn]

I have had my Scriptorium craft a lot of spell scrolls for me, actually.

[rough basalt]

My party needs money to get theirs truly cooking

[undone rain]

Hey i need a good patron for a hexblade warlock. Any help

When i mean good i mean as in, someone not evil

[humble cairn]

Eilistraee

Just flavor the shade as an elf shadow, the kind you can get from a Moonblade.

[tender fossil]

Nyx, Mystaran patron of undead. She's NG, and people joke that she's the patron of Spirit Halloween. She just thinks being undead is awesome. Even has The Lost Boys memorized

[umbral girder]

A damaged Moonblade as a patron is interesting

[turbid sand]

hows that work?

[candid mulch]

A lot of people automatically go for gods and goddesses. In my experience the best patrons are ones that are interesting creatures or beings with interest or powers over you. A spirit of the lake, an old hag you once made a deal with, something that only talks to you in your dreams ETC.

A cursed artifact slowly giving you powers but also subtly guiding or influencing you.

A botched summoning that pulled a spirit inside of you. You are slowly gaining access to its power but have to fight against another being living inside you. (Half posession style)

Sooo sooo sooo many cool themes and ways to make warlocks super cool and interesting.

If you just have a god or goddess why wouldnt you just be a cleric.

End of the day you want your warlock to have cool story hooks related to your patron that your DM can play with.

[feral fulcrum]

A spirit of the lake you say? Are distributing swords as a system of government again?

[lost ice]

This. Warlock patrons are interesting because they're not gods. they're weird beings not tied to faith or organizations, they are beyond the civilized mortal world

[desert river]

What would be a good feat for a front line cleric level 4? 2014ruleset

[prime basin]

I don't think gods can't be interesting as warlock patrons. I'm not saying there as interesting as a "regular" monster for a patron but I think they can make for good patrons

[prime basin]

What are your stats?

also are you wearing heavy armor?

[valid geyser]

War caster is what people usually recommend

[lean wigeon]

i dont think i had my question answered but what's this pugilist people have been talking about lately

[feral fulcrum]

Third Party Monk But Not a Monk

[lean wigeon]

like, str monk?

[woven flint]

Barbonk

[lost ice]

I really don't like god patrons because then such a warlock might meet a cleric of this god and the dynamic is off: one had to believe in their god's cause, pray and look for signs whilst the other is a special child with a direct line to the upper management; warlock with a god patron too easily can seem like the god's chosen

[lean wigeon]

i c i c

[humble elbow]

where to play

[prime basin]

Having a patron means you made some pact of some kind, that doesn't mean like it just came free or something. Believing in one's cause takes more devotion than just signing a deal with a god. At the end of the day, the god's champion is who that god selects, whether it be for devotion reasons, power reasons, etc. Also warlock's are not a god's special child, if you want to take the god bloodline route the best class for that is the sorcerer.

[woven flint]

Yeah, it's not that big of a deal
Warlocks are transactional, some people only praise and worship gods for power and that's where a Warlock would come in

[lost ice]

Believing in one's cause takes more devotion than just signing a deal with a god.
That's what I'm saying, cleric has to work constantly and might not ever come into direct contact with a deity whilst warlock literally has Contact Patron
Also warlock's are a god's special child
No, they're weird beings' minions

[woven flint]

I think they mean
"Aren't God's special children"
Given the context of what they said after

[lost ice]

ye, they edited

while I was replying to pre-edited text

[woven flint]

Yeah? A Deity probably isn't going to acknowledge a worshipper.. there's like... billions of them? whereas a Warlock is typically doing a direct favor for said Deity for their power and perhaps needs to be kept under special watch.

[river vector]

Today I have DND. Hopefully none of my players realize that the "holy cleric" they are travelling with is the vampire BBEG. At least, not yet.

[lost ice]

yeah and that's a huge problem for me
a warlock should be just as "unsignificant" as a cleric and the way it plays out is that a cleric might come into contact with their deity once in their life and warlock's patron is just some guy, not a god

[woven flint]

Warlocks typically go to their patrons or contact them with a deal that would be beneficial enough to give them power and allow them a little bit of contact
Whereas a Cleric is just joining the lines of like.. a bazillion followers.

[lost ice]

yes and because a god has tons of worshippers they don't need just a greedy sucker in need of an eldritch blast

[woven flint]

Also, Clerics can STILL contact their Deity anyway!
Divination exists, Augury exist, etc
So the argument is kinda ... why is it an argument?

[lost ice]

it's very limited

[woven flint]

Yeah?
So is Warlocks.

They're both intentionally limited.

[calm cobalt]

Hello! Anyone has any kindergarten puzzles (or ideas) i could use in a dungeon?

[woven flint]

Clerics also get
Divine Intervention, which is a direct blessing from their deity.

[lost ice]

I believe you didn't get the argument from the beginning. You like twice stated something that was an assumption in my initial argument

Anyway you do you, I would never allow them. I'm dipping out, no more time

[woven flint]

Lol, okay

I think they hate warlocks 🤔

To be fair though?
I don't like Warlocks much either

[feral fulcrum]

By actually reading their posts, I think they just hate the Idea of Warlocks being some super special "I'm a Gods Special Little Boy who gets headpats directly." As opposed to Clerics "You're one guy out of a million guys just like you."

[woven flint]

I mean, yeah, that's what I was getting too.
And, yeah, I read it..
It just feels like a bad argument imo

Because Clerics also get... DIRECT benefits from their deities lol (given they even worship one)

Nevermind that I can call upon my God's aid every long rest when I hit level 10

[noble pine]

Do you think players should have consequences for bad actions

[woven flint]

Yes

[feral fulcrum]

Yes, obviously.

[river vector]

yes, severity depends

[minor cargo]

I feel like there's a reason you're asking that lol What's on your mind?

[river vector]

"I touch the death idol that radiates death, and I know this but still touch it!"

Should lead to well, Death.

[woven flint]

Or at minimum, A curse they must deal with 🧐

[river vector]

true, but if its surrounded by dead bodies, and you still touch it...

[feral fulcrum]

Rob an Archdevil, be stuck with an Archdevil that wants you dead.

[fossil hollow]

why should they not?

[river vector]

consequences add to the immersion

[woven flint]

I think I should punish Ti-Moth for being Ti-Moth

[trim swan]

I feel targeted by this comment.

[feral fulcrum]

Because some people treat D&D more like GTA then a TTRPG. Run around slaughtering and stealing facing no real meaningful opposition and doing it again and again.

[woven flint]

... You ROBBED an Archdevil?!

[river vector]

If a player insults my Lich, while being level three, it's power word pain torture for them.

[fossil hollow]

"For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction."

[river vector]

and THEN power word kill

they seem to understand this, and respect my lich

thus adding to immersion

[woven flint]

Personally? I wouldn't have a lich be offended by some paltry beings barely worth his time

[fossil hollow]

its not even immersion for me. thats just story telling and also "F around and find out" in full play

[woven flint]

Now if you're going to attack him?
He feeds you to his Dracolich

[fossil hollow]

"Pocket demilich"

[feral fulcrum]

I robbed one entirely by accident. Do not open chests in a Goddess of Secrets Temple, they lead to forgotten loot, such as those found in Zariel's old vaults

[river vector]

I see liches as petty beings

[trim swan]

Technically no, made a deal with one and then fulfilled it in law but not in spirit. Got some begrudging respect and an enemy for the future.

[feral fulcrum]

We now have Angel Zariel 'asleep' in an old magic painting. Presumably waiting for Current Zariel to win the Blood War.

[woven flint]

The flashbang in the liches back pocket:

Zariel..
More like
Zari-L!!!

[buoyant oar]

Bless it be the Chained Angel

When you think about it. Zariel is just the Doom Slayer.

[feral fulcrum]

Evil Doom Slayer

Given her proclivity to enslaving people and throwing them into to the infinite meatgrinder to gain an inch, just to lose a mile.

[noble pine]

So in the campaign I'm running my players are supposed to gain the inhabitants trust to hopefully get help to defeat the big bad and his army one player wants to use a city to see about killing an ancient black dragon which the city couldn't do anything about

[buoyant oar]

If the potential for consequences of actions has been communicated to players and they accepted consequence away.

[rapid sparrow]

One question. I'm asking an artist to draw my D&D character. He's a tiefling fighter, so can I tell him to put fire on his hand because of his Infernal Legacy?

[olive scroll]

Can anyone recommend me some good feats for warlock?

[woven flint]

If they attempt to kill him and fail, have it slaughter the entire city for their arrogance.

It sounds exactly like something a Black Dragon would do lol
They're Vengeful Bastards

[buoyant oar]

It's your character you can do what ever you and the artist agreed to

[severe rampart]

Polearm Master is generally good

Fey Touched maybe? I haven't played a lot of warlocks much

[normal canyon]

How do I find a co-dm

[severe rampart]

probably post a #looking-for-dm ?

Clarify in the post that you are looking for a co-DM, and that you're not a player looking to play in a game

[normal canyon]

I already did a post

[worn lagoon]

war caster. warrrrr casterrrr... then ASI.

maybe great weapon master if you really want to use a big pact weapon

[thick void]

What do you think about homebrewing the Musician feat to give Bardic Inspiration instead of Heroic Inspiration? Which would you rather have. Bardic or Heroic?

[worn lagoon]

heroic

not even a comparison to be made

[severe rampart]

Depends on the Bardic Inspiration die

If it's like a d8 then Heroic for sure

[worn lagoon]

it could be a d20 and i'd still want heroic

[olive scroll]

Lets just say my DM gave me a homebrew scythe that does 3d6 slashing + 4d6 fire damage i think that counts lmao

[worn lagoon]

great weapon master then

but only if you have war caster already

it's very difficult not to recommend it especially if your patron is fiend or great old one

[olive scroll]

Great old one 😎

[worn lagoon]

go to melee range, dissonant whispers
if the enemy fails the save you get an oppurtunity spell on them, this can also be a booming blade with your scythe

that's why i like war caster

[olive scroll]

I love your thinking

[severe rampart]

writing this down for when I multiclass into Warlock

[worn lagoon]

you have both dissonant whispers and command already...

[severe rampart]

I don't got booming blade for that extra damage

[worn lagoon]

should've had sage background 🥱

[severe rampart]

Criminal for that initiative (and I keep rolling horribly)

[craggy summit]

Am I having a brainfart or didn't the UA for the banneret for the heroes of faerun book, had the purple dragon companion? And it's not in the official book? 🤔

[olive scroll]

Need some advise for my next level up i am currently level 6 and my best options are:

Another Warlock level:

• i gain another eldritch invocation
• level 4 spell slots
• one of my favorite spells summon abberation

First level into fighter:

• i gain proficiency with the armor i am wearing (medium homebrew armor) so i lose a lot of disadvantages
• i gain proficiency with shield so i no longer need to cast spells with super disadvantage (usually its no magic at all but homebrew rule from DM)
• i gain the bonus action heal to balance out the self inflicting 10 damage per hit on my scythe

Which one would you recommend?

[inner silo]

warlock spellslots stack with regular spellslots right?

[severe rampart]

Pact Slots and Spell Slots are different, but yes

[cobalt escarp]

if you have both you can use either

[inner silo]

go full warlock imo

[inner silo]

W

[cobalt escarp]

what subclass and pact?

[inner silo]

swords bard/hexblade is a short rest beast then

[severe rampart]

Thank you for my next Bardlock Idea, Puss in Boots

[olive scroll]

Great old one and pact of the blade i do plan on getting chain as well

[potent vector]

One of them did irrc ye

I personally didn't like it

[inner silo]

a fighter level will make you a better martial if thats what you want to focus on

[potent vector]

Then again, I think level 3 for Banneret used to be better (hot take).

[glass granite]

Considering your current situation, I’d go with a Paladin level:D

[craggy summit]

Yeah you're right 🤔 I found the UA for when heroes of faerun was coming out and it was PDK at the time, but now it's banneret

[cobalt escarp]

id go a level or 2 into fighter so you get con proficiency, action surges, and second wind

[inner silo]

thats probably best mechanically tbh

and good potential for getting more levels into it if needed

[crimson gulch]

Yeh because the purple.dragon companion thing was really bad at representing the lore of cormyre

[glass granite]

Con proficiency would require them to START with a level in fighter

[cobalt escarp]

oh mb

but the rest still applies

[glass granite]

Is this 2014 or 2024 btw?

[olive scroll]

I mean i would- unfortunately i am missing 5 points in strength for that 🤣

[glass granite]

Ope. Yeah nvm go fighter lol

[inner silo]

tbh if its 2024 i think pact of the blade and its later upgrades are pretty decently self susteined

[glass granite]

Can’t really meet multiclass requirements tho

If 2024 I’d say one in fighter and the rest warlock

[olive scroll]

Yeah also my DM thankfully allows me to sacrifice HP from summons and such for the scythe attacks so i will definitly also get pact of the chain just for more sacrifices

[severe rampart]

Someday I wanna play a John Character, just a human with 13 in every stat

[hidden spindle]

Warlock.

Because after that would be an ASI level if you keep going Warlock

[inner silo]

i mean just going purely warlock pact of the blade will do fine i think

[inner silo]

and 1 level in every class?

[glass granite]

Considering they’re quite adamant on wearing armor and shields that they’re not proficient in I’d argue otherwise

[inner silo]

ah then yeah

[severe rampart]

If it wasn't super unviable I'd do that

[olive scroll]

Btw my DM has made some fatal mistakes because i have +11 to hit with spells and a spell save DC of 19 at level 6 🤣

[cobalt escarp]

nah be a champion fighter

[severe rampart]

what are you fighting to warrant those stats

[severe rampart]

Champion Fighter is horrible

well, not horrible, just, underwhelming

[crimson gulch]

wrong, its amazing

every champion fighter i have had in a campaign has CARRIED

[cobalt escarp]

as are humans

[olive scroll]

Pretty much enemy player characters my DM made as bosses with some extra feature that are always 2 levels higher than the players

[severe rampart]

Excuse me I get a free origin feat right from the get-go

[severe rampart]

Maybe it's the players and not the subclass?

let me check the class features one more time to see if I missed something

[glass granite]

Champion is underwhelming in the sense that it’s very very one dimensional, but it’s not weak

[inner silo]

its fine tbh

[crimson gulch]

the name has it all, they are there to Win the Fight

and they deliver on that

[severe rampart]

I dunno, at level 8, only level 1 spell slots, no extra attacks, etc.

maybe I misjudged Champion Fighter? but it feels like Battlemaster and Eldritch Knight still blows it out of the water

[inner silo]

if the campaign is low optimisation and the dm lets you after taking wizard to scribe any spells you have slots for it wont be that bad

[crimson gulch]

Eldrich knight was bad in 2014, now its ok

[glass granite]

I dunno if I’d call it fine per se

Your stats are a mess

[severe rampart]

Yeah I mainly play 2024

[inner silo]

in a sense you wont be completely useless

[reef tundra]

I actually can’t help but love all the fighter subclasses flavour wise, it may just be because of how I imagine them, but I also like how distinct they can feel and how they play

[crimson gulch]

someone multiclassing into every class is going to die in one of my games

they will fall off so fast and hard

[glass granite]

I feel like you would kinda be. You’re the most MAD thing in the game, and you’re not in any way benefitting from it

[reef tundra]

Now, I’m not crazy enough to defend banneret and PDK’s mechanics, but damn do I love the flavour and feel

[inner silo]

ok tbh youre right, i cant defend it

[reef tundra]

In my games I’m recently experimenting with making multiclassing less of a pain by having ASI’s happen every 4 character levels, instead of class levels. With the only exception being fighter’s extra ASIs, I tie those to fighter level

[crimson gulch]

nah, there needs to be that Cost to multiclass

[reef tundra]

But so far I haven’t gotten too far past level 6 with any campaigns I’ve tried using that in

[inner silo]

i feel like its fine if the multiclass is mainly for flavour rather then for an op build

[glass granite]

I know some people who are against multiclassing for flavour

[reef tundra]

Now that’s very valid, but I only do it because my players aren’t power gamers, they only multiclass for the vibes. I wouldn’t do this with all groups, but the ones I’m using it with I want them to be able to multiclass without too big a cost

[crimson gulch]

im becoming more and more entrenched in the concept that RAW is best for charicter options

[reef tundra]

With my general groups, I absolutely agree. I’ve been playing RAI with my past few groups and tbh it’s been blissful

[inner silo]

some times its the best way to translate the wanted flavour

[glass granite]

I do agree, though generally I’d avoid it if doing so would weaken my character

[crimson gulch]

Flavour is free, never had an issue there

[reef tundra]

I mostly monoclass and reflavour, but idm others doing it

[severe rampart]

I love it when the multiclass fits the flavor of my character's backstory

[inner silo]

makes sense. Ive done it in one of my current campaigns but its no optimisation

[reef tundra]

I am mostly neutral with it

[inner silo]

weve had like 3-4 combats throughout like 10-15 sessions

[reef tundra]

As long as powergaming isn’t involved, idm

[woven flint]

Hello, friends (° ͜°)

[reef tundra]

Hello Tokii

[severe rampart]

Hello Tokii

[glass granite]

I greet the Lord of Goofy!

[reef tundra]

(@<@)

[woven flint]

I am clearly a very beloved individual
Would be a shame if I were... EVIL!!!
and.. selling.. SINISTER POTIONS!!!

[cobalt escarp]

for how much?

[reef tundra]

Are you selling sinister potions?

[woven flint]

Wouldn't you like to know, weather boy? /ref

[inner silo]

what are they doing?

the potions

[severe rampart]

Sinister things

[woven flint]

Something Sinister

Like tax fraud or somethin'

[inner silo]

ooh

[woven flint]

Not that I'd know that

[severe rampart]

But that's not sinister! /j

[reef tundra]

Excuse me - that’s weather princess to you

[still plover]

Valid.

[inner silo]

enraging irs is sinister

the joker would agree

[woven flint]

D&Dcord needs a health potion emoji so i can peddle my Sinister Potions easier

[reef tundra]

I remember a friend of mine played a druibardarian

[severe rampart]

Sounds interesting

[woven flint]

Well, I know you're a princess 🧐

[reef tundra]

Did it for kicks.

[glass granite]

Hello princess of snow, it’s ice to meet you

[reef tundra]

And I know you’re a lord

[reef tundra]

Finally, someone gets it

[woven flint]

Oh my...

[worn lagoon]

I think it was still great in 14

[still plover]

It's good that it's got more options now. '14 EK was very focused.

[reef tundra]

But Vecna was a king so he is a much better suitor for me

[worn lagoon]

Even if you ignored every other spell, it's still a fighter with shield, mirror image, potentially silvery barbs

There are a lot of low-level high-impact spells it could pick up

[woven flint]

And Absorb Elements!

[worn lagoon]

Especially absorb elements and booming blade

[reef tundra]

Although he considerably lacks a kingdom now. Whenever he wants to show off he just has me visit his Demi-plane so I can see his fake castle

[abstract beacon]

What are people’s opinion on the champion fighter?

[halcyon bison]

Not really a king then is he

[flint ledge]

It's basic imo, pretty simple

[abstract beacon]

Is it good?

[reef tundra]

He promises me he’ll make a real castle for me once he finishes his ritual of remaking, but I’ve been waiting years

[inner silo]

decntly strong but boring

[abstract beacon]

I see

[woven flint]

Good for a FIrst time player
Pretty boring though

[reef tundra]

I strangely love it

[worn lagoon]

I ban it because it lowers my blood pressure to the point I am at risk of going in a coma mid-session

[abstract beacon]

Wow

[flint ledge]

It lowers your blood pressure?

[reef tundra]

I think it’s just a joke on its somewhat boring flavour

[worn lagoon]

yea

[flint ledge]

I think I should encourage someone to pick it at my table...

[reef tundra]

-# Although I quite like the flavour for some reason

[flint ledge]

Maybe then my blood pressure goes down

[still plover]

I like them. They're a real archetype of fighters.

[worn lagoon]

I feel like "you hit things really really hard" could be interpreted as better features. The new lv10 trait is really cool though, just not cool enough to redeem it in my eyes.

[glass granite]

Vanilla of fighters. Classic, damn good, but sometimes you want something less common/want variety.

[reef tundra]

Like fr I don’t know why but I just love the image of this great champion with spear and shield

[reef tundra]

Now thats a good comparison. Vanilla. Not bad, still good, but sometimes you just want a more special flavour

[flint ledge]

The only actual notable thing I know about champion fighter is that they lower their crit range (or widen it you get what I mean)

[worn lagoon]

If you insisted on playing this I'd buff the hell out of you with free savage attacker and other stuff or smth

[abstract beacon]

My dm has approved the laserllama version of fighter for me to play an I’ll be going with that champion most likely since it respices the whole of fighter while keeping it the same

[abstract beacon]

You talk like an aristocrat of olden times

[turbid vessel]

There's the whole theory of horizontal growth vs vertical growth. for fighters, champions are the top tier vertical growth build. you get very few new abilities but you build on the abilities you already have

[abstract beacon]

Very tacky

[reef tundra]

Well, a princess must be eloquent in her way of words.

[abstract beacon]

Indeed

[glass granite]

How should a Nugget speak, I wonder

[abstract beacon]

Hello nugget

[turbid vessel]

nugget, biscuit
nugget IN a biscuit

[reef tundra]

Playing 5.5e champion with 5e 2024 grappling and shoving rules has actually let them to be pretty good at spacing in my games

[glass granite]

Greetings

[turbid vessel]

been thinking about building a champion fighter that leans into TWF

more attacks, more chance for crits

[flint ledge]

What do they actually do besides that, do the rest of their features also improve crits or did they just stop there?

[reef tundra]

On a related story, I still remember when the Barb of the party grappled my boss, dragged them to the edge of a roof and then shoved them off it 😭

[abstract beacon]

You seen the laserllama fighter? Helps fighters scale with spellcasters in my opinion. Basically gives fighter battlemaster manoeuvres as part of the base class

[reef tundra]

They get advantage on athletics checks, they gain inspiration every round they start without it, and their capstone lets them regenerate when bloodied and have advantage on death saves. 5.5e at least

[paper portal]

in 5e thats about it, they got some buffs i dont remember in 5.5 tho

[turbid vessel]

advantage on athletics and initiative checks, extra movement when you crit, later on you get another fighting style and can farm your own inspiration points

[rough basalt]

Yeah you get inspiration every round of combat starting from level 10

[reef tundra]

I actually really like them

[worn lagoon]

always buff your fighters and give them magic weapons

[turbid vessel]

is that really a buff or is that just playing the way the game is intended ot be played

[reef tundra]

Always give your non-casters magic items.

[rough basalt]

Yeah you're supposed to give players magic items

[crimson gulch]

every player should get magic items

[worn lagoon]

the latter half yeah the former meant something else

[crimson gulch]

its DND

[reef tundra]

Like fr that’s not exaggeration, items is a huge part of the game

[rough basalt]

Martials in 5.5 are pretty good

[turbid vessel]

2024 DMs guide is a lot more clear about that

[reef tundra]

Actually yeah you’re right idk why I was saying specifically non-casters

[abstract beacon]

Ntm at lvl 18 you heal every round as long as you’re bellow half hp and you have advantage on death saves AND your death save crit also increases to 18-20

[worn lagoon]

i'm probably gonna cook a halfcaster ek later because 1/3 casters piss me off in an idea level

[undone rain]

I take away everything bad ive spoken of warlock, their awesome

[flint ledge]

So they were really going all out on a roll as much as possible thing huh

[reef tundra]

I love warlocks

[rough basalt]

Yep

[paper portal]

yeah their ceiling got lowered for some odd reason but the floor got raised and thats what affects most tables

[reef tundra]

An unreasonable amount

[rough basalt]

Their ceiling got lowered cause it was ridiculous

[abstract beacon]

Warlock is good

[worn lagoon]

warlocks are kind of like fighters but significantly cooler in 2024

[undone rain]

Im gonna play a hexblade

[glass granite]

Never played a warlock

[reef tundra]

I love hex blades. I wanna play a hexblade of bane one day

[worn lagoon]

i love warlocks

[turbid vessel]

warlocks are dope in 2024, i especially love the subclass revisions

[rough basalt]

Certain high level martials in 2014 could put out 150 to 200 damage a round without crits.

[undone rain]

You should you should

[abstract beacon]

Celestial warlock is goated

[worn lagoon]

they are incredibly strong and they get to throw around their highest level spells all day without giving a damn

[rough basalt]

And by that I mean Battlemaster Fighter

[reef tundra]

Holy hell I didn’t know that

[paper portal]

we already had this whole argument yesterday lets not do it again 😭

[rough basalt]

Yep Battlemaster fighter

[worn lagoon]

I love genie and archfey

[reef tundra]

You’re right, let’s all stay calm

[flint ledge]

(And only battlemaster fighter)

[glass granite]

Couldn’t Samurai Fighter do that too?

[rough basalt]

Does around 160 on average in 2014 at level 12 without magic weapons

[abstract beacon]

Echo knight is good too

[reef tundra]

Positive thoughts, people

[turbid vessel]

agreed, nobody wins in a "martials bad" debate, everyone just gets mad at each other over personal experiences

[rough basalt]

Samurai can put out that much too

[reef tundra]

Holy hell

[worn lagoon]

eh
lv9 casters can still microwave things to death in 24

[glass granite]

Boba! Idk boba is positive in my mind

[paper portal]

echo knight is goated

[crimson gulch]

it shows you who has only played softball dnd

[reef tundra]

I don’t like boba >:( /j

[rough basalt]

Stuff in 24 has teleportation and ranged attacks

[turbid vessel]

that's a loaded statement so i'm not gonna engage

[rough basalt]

And Forcecage has conc and consumed components

[turbid vessel]

how would you design a boba vendor dnd character

[reef tundra]

Everyone let’s all just stay calm

[abstract beacon]

Imagine if fighters had battlemaster manoeuvres in their base kit

[worn lagoon]

there are more people yelling stay calm than there are people discussing

[abstract beacon]

I’m bing chilling

[paper portal]

yeah we already had this whole debate yesterday (and decided that im right and youre wrong /silly)

[flint ledge]

Well he plays hardcore games and such so I think he has a very different perspective

[glass granite]

Boba…
I probably couldn’t, they’d drink their entire supply

[rough basalt]

And even in '24 martials still hit plenty hard.
My EK did around 80-100 mixed damage without action surge and no crits

[reef tundra]

I’d make them sell boba because they don’t want to own so much boba because I don’t like it >:( /j

[turbid vessel]

that'd be a funny rogue backstory, "i had the greatest boba shop in all of fae-run, but it was too good! i drank all my supply until i couldn't afford to get more!"

[rough basalt]

With weaker than expected magic items for its level

[paper portal]

yeah ek is the best of the new fighter subs by a fair bit its pretty good now

[glass granite]

Gimme da boba please

[reef tundra]

Okay now I’m gonna steal that /pos

[flint ledge]

Yeah there's this thing that when people start comparing martials and casters everything explodes in hour long arguments no one really gets out of with a new opinion so this is wiser

[reef tundra]

Fine, let’s make a pact. I’ll give you all the boba I have

[abstract beacon]

True

[glass granite]

In return?

[paper portal]

pretty much sometimes its fun but we dont wanna do that too often lol

[reef tundra]

You become like, my first warlock.

[solar crow]

Doing 11d10+7 is fun🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣