dnd-discussion

[short brook]

honestly yeah

[severe fox]

I’m unsure

[burnt grove]

I mean I’d just be a luxodon 12+con ac modifier

[wanton raft]

I went with basic choice because Cobalt is my first char. Next time, I'll do a ridiculous build

[paper portal]

about?

[burnt grove]

Your getting good con anyway lol

[devout flume]

“I want to have mushrooms growing out of my skin”
Circle of spores

“I want to be an Idiot who means well and also a horse girl”
Cavalier

“What if I was a really silly doctor”
That one plague doctor class you know the one

[burnt grove]

Way of mercy monk

[devout flume]

THATS the one

[paper portal]

i wish they buffed natural armor cus none of it is anywhere near as good as medium except kiiiiinda tortle

[wispy vector]

You can be a Cavalier and forego the riding part altogether, you know

[devout flume]

“Don’t worry, I’m a doctor :)” says the monk

[devout flume]

That’s pretty much what I’m doing yeah

[severe fox]

For some reason Everytime I worm myself into a game it ends up ending

[burnt grove]

Or right with healers kit proficiency

[devout flume]

She can’t afford a horse she’s poor

[wanton raft]

Monk: proceeds to reverse heal

[burnt grove]

Rogue

[severe fox]

Thri kreens 13+dex;

[knotty pasture]

Its a very situational build cuz you need v specific races/feats for it to work

[paper portal]

that needs 22 in dex to be equal to medium armor

[knotty pasture]

Since Ranger doesn't get heavy armor proficiency, your AC game does suffer

[devout flume]

She really wants a horse
She reaaaally wants a horse…
But both times the rogue tried to steal one for her he got kicked in the head by the horse

[wispy vector]

Alchemist Plague doctor and Mercy Monk regular doctor are funny

[paper portal]

or just start with a level in fighter

[short brook]

i'll run a str ranger one day

[paper portal]

take battlemaster

[severe fox]

It can be better than medium armor? Since all you need is a +3 and now you have a 16 what kinda armor are you wearing?

[knotty pasture]

Yeah or multiclass Fighter/Cleric

[burnt grove]

Alchemist is a witch and I’m fairly certain plague doctors and witches don’t quite get along last I checked lol jk

[devout flume]

(They also kidnapped a lich into a bag of holding. A lich who has command but only uses it to make people gamble. I love dnd.)

[severe fox]

With a 20 in dex you get an 18 which is plate armor

At the cost of nothing

[paper portal]

medium armor is generally gonna be 19, which would be a dex mod of +6

[wanton raft]

Is fighter the best cleric multiclass?

[paper portal]

nah that's sorcerer

[knotty pasture]

No its Druid imo

[wanton raft]

||(Cries in my 11 CHA)||

[knotty pasture]

Lifeberry is a funny

[limber trail]

There aren't a lot of great cleric multiclasses

[paper portal]

true but shield

[wanton raft]

Figured yeah

[severe fox]

Medium armor is capped at 17 and cost 750 gold pieces

[knotty pasture]

Understandable

[burnt grove]

Look I hate dexterity as a stat so much. Initiative, Ac,Damage,Stealth,And acrobatics. Strength is damage,carrying and climbing and even then some people let Dex use climbing .. so strength gets shafted lol

[devout flume]

You can tell I build for the vibes bc one of my favorite dnd characters I’ve made is a banneret fighter and if I was in it for the best build I would not touch that subclass with a ten foot pole

[paper portal]

sorc, wizard and druid are all fantastic for it

[severe fox]

Idk where your getting 19

[wanton raft]

That's why STR is the dump stat

[wispy vector]

Order Cleric 1, Sorcerer 19 is a funny commander

[paper portal]

15 +2 dex +2 shield

[short brook]

what else could you give str?

[severe fox]

You can use a shield with thri kreens unarmed as well

[burnt grove]

Nah charisma is cus no one here actually knows how to be proper convincing lol jk

[knotty pasture]

Max health, but consitution was made to avoid people from only stacking str and dex lol

[severe fox]

Now you have a flat 18 + 2

[paper portal]

yeah but that means you have med armor prof so you might as well just wear med armor

[wanton raft]

depending on how you point buy, everything but CON can be a dump

[severe fox]

But half plate cost 750 and breast plate cost 400

[paper portal]

natural armor cant compete with medium armor unless youre maxing your dex which is why it needs a buff

[short brook]

i dump int because every character i make swings a sword

[devout flume]

I dump int bc it’s fun roleplaying stupid

[knotty pasture]

*Sad Bladesinging noises*

[severe fox]

It literally can in the fact that not everyone can just buy medium armor

[burnt grove]

Looks at Eldritch knight … poor buddy

[paper portal]

war wizard sweeps imo

[wanton raft]

Glares at people who dump INT

[wanton raft]

I'll prob dump it one day too though

[burnt grove]

I do lol I don’t play wizards

[devout flume]

I go heavy with rp and god is it fun to play an absolute idiot

[wispy vector]

Eldritch Knight honestly doesn't need int.
Most spells you wanna cast have no scaling

[paper portal]

int is just so specific its like wizards and a couple rogue subs

[wispy vector]

You got your weapons for damage

[severe fox]

Eldritch knight gets access to all wizard spells

[devout flume]

If I cannot rp during my turns then I do not belong at that table

[severe fox]

Hold person for example

[wanton raft]

I like lore myself so even Rp reasons, I'll take INT high for history and arcana checks

[wispy vector]

You can just hold that person yourself.

[severe fox]

That doesn’t cause auto crits through

[wispy vector]

While you're roided up with haste, enlarge or swing a shadow blade for tons of damage

[knotty pasture]

Well yes that too, been meaning to try it out

[devout flume]

It’s fun playing a character at a very different level of awareness than me trying to like. Advise others at the table sometime

[paper portal]

or better yet play a cool class like warlock instead /silly

[severe fox]

Aren’t.. all 3 of those concentration

[devout flume]

If the character with a -1 in arcana is trying to arcana check something maybe it’s a sign…

[short brook]

every character i make is a brick, high con always

[knotty pasture]

But tbh even to this day one of my PC concepts continue to give me a headache cuz I want both possible subclasses to be similar in theme

[wispy vector]

Yeah, but none of them need int

[paper portal]

i like multiclassing too much to put more than 14 in con lol

[wispy vector]

And neither does shield

[wanton raft]

Yeah I can get that. Rp for different reasons

[knotty pasture]

The closest I got is Clockwork Sorc/Dao Genie Warlock, metal and earth theme(?)

[severe fox]

New Eldritch knight is still pretty decent because of true strike

[devout flume]

“Why don’t we just say hi” is always a fun thing to say mid stealth mission. Especially when it works. I love being stupid.

[paper portal]

yeah true strike really needed that lol

[wispy vector]

I only play with 5e2014 rules, maybe in 2024 EK actually utilizes Int more

[devout flume]

I have pulled a “why don’t we just say hi” at larp too
Less successful but no one died
Always funny

[wanton raft]

I like the RP that comes with dump stat. Got the chance to buy gauntlets that take my STR from 8 to 19 but passed on it (for now) because I get to describe how I fail my strength checks

[devout flume]

YESS I love getting to describe my failures…

[severe fox]

I still prefer new monk over old

[wanton raft]

"So I kicked a rock and tumble barreled, face planting into the soil."

[devout flume]

One of the dms I’ve had rped it so that if you got a nat one on something like insight or perception you just. Fully perceived something Wrong and that was fun

[wanton raft]

LOL

[severe fox]

Seeing someone play sun soul once made me never even touch monk

[limber trail]

I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say they prefer the old monk to be honest

[short brook]

i usually only play martials, so int is of little consequence to me, passing int saves is for chumps

[devout flume]

“That little girl is totally a swamp hag and she’s going to kill you you see it in her eyes”

[formal seal]

I always love DM'ing for players enthusiastic about making every roll an oppurtunity for some characterization.

[devout flume]

I love characterization it’s so yummy..

[severe fox]

It literally has a 1d4 damage dice how could they prefer old over new

[wanton raft]

"I have an intelligence of 6, I know what I'm doing"

[devout flume]

Wonderful

[short brook]

literally

[limber trail]

...Yeah that's one of the reasons why nobody prefers the old one

[short brook]

my favorite of playing low int is nailing an int check

[severe fox]

There’s plenty of reason

[devout flume]

ITS SO FUNNY WHEN IT WORKS

“Even with my minus one I got a 16 on the history check :3”
made better when you’re the only one who passes

[paper portal]

yeah its mostly the half casters and casters ppl complain about in the new rules cus they changed a bunch of stuff that didnt really need it imo

[short brook]

literally, the barbarian puts on reading glasses and understands everything

for only a second though

[severe fox]

It’s also a melee with only a 1d8 hit dice which is pretty low all things consdiered

[limber trail]

The vast majority of the changes I've seen for the new rules I stand by as being just better

[wanton raft]

Loll will never forget when the only person to pass a perception check was the one with -1 while me with my +7 and guidance rolled a 2

[devout flume]

Bonus points if the party is skeptical and shocked when it turns out that you were in fact right

[formal seal]

As someone who has low intelligence in real life, I just love justifying uncharacteristically high INT checks as "oh, I just heard it from somewhere" like the equivalent of stealing opinions fron a YouTube video essay.

[devout flume]

LOLLLL

[short brook]

thats so funny

[severe fox]

And don’t even get me started on how literally everything they did needed a ki point

[devout flume]

I remember my character having a +8 to initiative and never rolling high enough to go first once

[severe fox]

Wanna dash as a bonus action ki point disengage as well ki point

Wanna breathe? Ki point

[wanton raft]

Like sometimes it sucks to have high bonus and fail but sometimes it's funny

[serene sigil]

I once spoke back to a British lady in her accent (I am Texan) completely on accident because I didn’t understand what she was saying. I realized she asked for a box (I was at work) and I went “Oh, a BOX!” (Box was said in a British accent) I actually rolled a nat 1 in real life

[formal seal]

GOOODD monk was so expensive to play, literally the "do anything fun" points mechanic sucked balls

[wanton raft]

hilarious

[severe fox]

Then there was four elements and sun soul which were both so bad you might as well not play

[serene sigil]

It was the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever done

[limber trail]

(I also just like how they renamed it from Ki point to Focus point.)

[short brook]

new monk is so kino

[severe fox]

You had to spend ki points to do what a rouge could do for free at the same level

[devout flume]

I’m so focused right now I say, hitting real fast

[severe fox]

And don’t even get me started on the first deflect missiles

[formal seal]

New Monk is just a great rework, and it distances the class from needing to be associated with oriental, mystical associations. Especially since it is the leading pugilist/martial arts class for the game.

[devout flume]

“I’m just all out of spoons today” the monk says after disengaging

[limber trail]

Yup

[short brook]

i miss ki solely for dbz fan within but the changes make sense

[severe fox]

So again I cannot fathom how someone could prefer old monk

[formal seal]

Focus is a lot more characteristic and flexible as an implication.

[limber trail]

People pretty universally Do Not™

[formal seal]

If you were masochistic, and liked the challenge of managing ki points to not suck maybe

[devout flume]

I need to play more monks. I only got to play my way of mercy for two sessions before the great scheduling incident

[short brook]

my highest level character is a monk (pfp)

[limber trail]

I've played 16 sessions of a monk and it has been a ton of fun across the board

[knotty pasture]

2014 Kensei Monk meant you'd go Gunking

And Gunking sounds absolutely funny

[formal seal]

He look like he got the dog in him

[severe fox]

And unarmed defense was kinda meh unless you get some good magic itsms

[paper portal]

i wish gunks were better ngl

[formal seal]

It sounds gross, like a plumbing term.

[devout flume]

Me when I’m ? Gunking ??

[knotty pasture]

Its gross for the enemy

[burnt grove]

Damn… I’m so unlucky tonight I just rolled 12 .. 12 stats out of curiosity.. and not one of them was above a 12!!!

[formal seal]

gosh i just gunked gunkily EVERYWHERE

[limber trail]

I've been playing a homebrew subclass which was built around Gunking and it's been a ton more fun

[devout flume]

She gunk on my enemy til I mismanage my ki points

[burnt grove]

4d6 drop 1 method lol

[severe fox]

One class that dnd universally screw up on was ranger

[short brook]

my monk 11 long death/3 barb storm herald

[paper portal]

what do you mean by that

[formal seal]

Gunking sounds like it should have its own sound or otomatapoiea

[formal seal]

I have no idea

[devout flume]

Gunking sounds like a slime special ability

OH it’s a monk with a gun

[formal seal]

It sounds like it's like a niche criminal thing

Like "oi, you shouldn't have gunked the boss"

[severe fox]

New ranger still has a Concentration Bottleneck

[limber trail]

Gun Monk. A trope as old as time but a fun one all the same

[devout flume]

Ok this makes more sense now

[formal seal]

Ohhh.

John Wick?

[knotty pasture]

Sure something like that

[short brook]

leon kennedy

[formal seal]

Wait, no, Dante.

[limber trail]

Somewhere in that space of things

[devout flume]

Leon Kennedy 😭

[severe fox]

It’s honestly even worse now since like 3-4 class feature need Ranger to use hunters mark

[devout flume]

John Monk

[knotty pasture]

Shadow Monks use PWT and Darkness to gunk, Kensei just doubles down on Gunking hard in general (more selfish)

[wanton raft]

Clint Eastwood

[severe fox]

And there cap stome ability has to be the worst thing of all time

[short brook]

which one?

[severe fox]

I cannot imagine a worse capstone

[formal seal]

Do NOT kill his familiar.

[severe fox]

Hunters mark going from 1d6 to 1d10

[short brook]

Thats... insane.

[severe fox]

So lazy and unoriginal

[formal seal]

That's gonna leave a mark.

[vestal panther]

how do i look for a group

[severe fox]

A level 20 ability

[devout flume]

No it isn’t

(I lie)

[formal seal]

With eyes. Also, it's its own category in the server! #looking-for-dm

[short brook]

i wish capstones were a little cooler

[flint ledge]

I mean I feel like quite a few capstone features are underwhelming

[short brook]

level 19 is cooler than 20 and i think that sucks tbh.

[limber trail]

varies from class to class. There are some awesome capstones

[short brook]

Paladins have my favorite, by far

[severe fox]

While 5 of the 9 spell casters are can do wish and other wonky things rouges get 4 extra damage

[formal seal]

I never let my parties go to level 20, seems like a nightmare to both balance and pace combat-wise. I try to end the campaigns around a time where they feel powerful but still fairly vulnerable like 14 or 15.

But that's also a lack of experience thing.

[short brook]

i think the stat increase ones while functionally very good, are just a bit boring to me

[severe fox]

I stop feeling vulnerable around level 10

[wanton raft]

level 7 here and I rarely get hit

[severe fox]

Thri kreen with a shield

[flint ledge]

From what I've heard here the higher levels can be a lot of fun although as a DM you basically have to attempt to kill the part at every turn when prepping

[severe fox]

Don’t at me

[short brook]

idk, my dm always put me through the ringer. I'd leave a fight as barb on deaths door

[wanton raft]

Don't think I'm OP yet though. Once I get access to 5th level spells (insert evil laugh)

[short brook]

Golaith Bear Totem 2014, so it's not like i was especially vulnerable

[severe fox]

I’ve managed to get 20 ac at level 1 due to dirty deeds

[formal seal]

I'm a pretty punishing DM in combat scenarios where I reward creative thinking and always leave consequences from the primary function of the combat, such as protecting a witness or fighting off an enclave from breaching territory, rather than strictly a party wipe scenario.

That way, I can keep some stakes harsh even if the players come out of it unscathed.

[severe fox]

I should do a thri kreen fighter someday

[formal seal]

Though, god, my players can sometimes just straight up be smarter than me

[short brook]

so many cool races, so little time

I'm pretty dumb, that's why low int feels like home to me

[wanton raft]

My Ac was 20 at level 3 lol

It's 22 now

[short brook]

never put a puzzle in front of me

[severe fox]

Thri kreen armor 13+dex so 3
Which is 16 + 2 because of shield and another +2 because of shield of faith

[civic palm]

Any stories about your BBEG’s? Wondering what the worst thing they’ve done is.

[severe fox]

Killed my hell hound

[wanton raft]

Neat. Mine was full plate + dex + shield. then I got Shield +1 and ring of protection. Shield of faith (which I rarely use cause of concentration) will take it to 24.

[wanton raft]

we're not there yet thankfully

[civic palm]

I’m wondering if hammering the point home that my guy just wants people to suffer just because is good enough to not make him “sympathetic”.

[wanton raft]

We had a whoie battle with cultists in a dungeon where I front lined and regularly got opportunity attacked. No hits

[cobalt owl]

You shouldn't be able to add dex to heavy armor

[civic palm]

DM could’ve ruled it differently if it was a legendary item.

[cobalt owl]

If it's a magic item that's different

[knotty pasture]

Are there any legendary heavy armor that allows dex modifiers?

[cobalt owl]

Not base

[wanton raft]

mithral

[cobalt owl]

Mithral doesn't add dex

[civic palm]

Mithral removes disadvantage from stealth.

[cobalt owl]

And removes the str req

[limber trail]

That's not what mithral does

[wanton raft]

yup just checked. my dex wasn't being added

[formal seal]

A few things. Malachal (A "crystallian" chromatic dragon who uses residuum he scientifically grafted into his scales to create his own perfected bloodline) kidnapped one of the PC as their backstory and his brother as a child, and experimented on them to turn into draconic thralls before one of them escaped. And then he later came back and dropped one of the PCs (A 16-year-old sorceress) off a cavernous hole.

[wanton raft]

it's just 18 plate + 3 sheild + ring. I was wondering where that extra 1 came from when I unequiped everything

[civic palm]

As one does, as one does.

[cobalt owl]

Lots of magic item go brrr

[severe fox]

Spam

[wanton raft]

You are right. I can't math. turns out it wasn't being added

[cobalt owl]

Just as God intended

Most folks with heavy armor generally don't have the best dex anyway

[severe fox]

Usually…

[wanton raft]

mine is just a +1 because elf. If i could dump dex I would

[cobalt owl]

I did say most

[formal seal]

And then he went and eradicated the first village the party met in to prove a point about "consequences" when he came back to embrace the PC as a son and try and convince him to come back and claim his spot as a regent in his new empire and got refused, including using the PC's body as a flail by grabbing his tail and swinging him into an NPC romantic couple that the group liked.

[flint ledge]

Imagine heavy armor + dex modifier

[severe fox]

Wait till they have a +5 in dex

[cobalt owl]

Invincibility until you're not

[flint ledge]

That would be diabolical

[severe fox]

It would probably be at max a +1

[civic palm]

I had an idea for a BBEG. There’s this species from the Far that has no idea how other species interact, and they lack mirror neurons so they cannot picture how other people feel.

[wanton raft]

Doing acrobatics in heavy armor is a funny sight icl

[formal seal]

smh just cant do BBEG stuff in peace nowadays...

[severe fox]

Since medium allows you to add a +2

[civic palm]

Their actions are evil, but they themselves aren’t capable of being it.

[wanton raft]

so they're just gonna beat him up for being himself? Such heroes they are

[severe fox]

Oh dang why is plate armor in dnd so heavy?

[humble cairn]

Still Evil, since Alignment isn't an inherent quality it's just a label on actions and decisions.

[severe fox]

65 pounds

[wanton raft]

your dm places carry limits on you?

[civic palm]

Anyway, they experiment on other races to figure out why they care for another beyond continuation, and eventually, they create a version of them with mirror neurons and fully capable of understanding the suffering they cause.

Its response? It’s in it for the love of the game.

[severe fox]

No I’ve just worn plate before and it’s no where near that heavy

[wanton raft]

ohhhh

[formal seal]

I so badly want to own a set of plate IRL.

Especially a frog-mouth helmet

[civic palm]

“My subjects? They kill on my orders or because they perceive your kind as a threat. Me? I relish the suffering I cause.”

[severe fox]

Like I can do acrobatics in plate

[wanton raft]

found the paladin/rogue

[severe fox]

Not even 😭

Plate just ain’t that heavy

[formal seal]

Yep! The joints in most plate are quite free because mobility was still prioritized in the smithing process. It's why they were often the targets in most swordsmaship manuals in HEMA.

Half-swording and such.

[severe fox]

You can have just as much movement as a person with plate

[wanton raft]

Compared to other armor though

[humble cairn]

Remember that D&D is not a reality simulator and that we shouldn't hope for or expect historical accuracy.

[formal seal]

Agree.

[severe fox]

65 pounds is pushing it though..

[civic palm]

Stamina would be a real issue though, since you wouldn’t be used to moving around while wearing full plate.

[wanton raft]

that's a lie. I cast guiding bolt on my neighbor last night

[humble cairn]

Only for someone who has actual workig knowledge of plate armor, which most players of D&D won't.

[severe fox]

You know that’s fair

[wanton raft]

kept reminding me of the rent I owed

[humble cairn]

I hear 65lb plate armor and I have no idea whether that's too heavy or light.

[severe fox]

Larp larp larp sahur!

It’s a bit too heavy

[cobalt owl]

It's like 30kg

[humble cairn]

That helps me even less.

[civic palm]

On a Guhnome? Too heavy. On a Storm Giant, though?

[severe fox]

Most plate armor is around 30-50 pounds on average

[cobalt owl]

It is heavy, but it's also distributed across your entire body

[humble cairn]

Anyway, it doesn't matter because the game isn't about realism.

[cobalt owl]

And it's designed to maintain mobility anywya

[humble cairn]

Does that count a gambeson and all the under layers, too?

[severe fox]

Of course

[knotty pasture]

I kind of do wish we get more equipment slots though

Rather than just armor, its divided into chestplates and leggings

[civic palm]

Immersion is an important factor, and nothing is more immersive than reality.

[severe fox]

You know what u want in dnd

[humble cairn]

Ok well, that's like .. the extent of my knowledge.

[cobalt owl]

Ez fix: make em wondrous items

[severe fox]

More shields

[knotty pasture]

Sure that too

[severe fox]

I don’t like that that there’s only 1 shield type

[formal seal]

A lot of armor is build specifically to distribute the weight on your hips, so it's fairly unobtrusive in regular wear, but fatigue does set in much faster.

[humble cairn]

Ehh ... maybe for some people. But I doubt many people are accounting for bathroom breaks and a whole lot of other mundane stuff.

[knotty pasture]

God making characters is so fun but I have temporarily ran out of idea reserves that interest me

[humble cairn]

There's an infinite number of shield types. They all just use one mechanic.

[civic palm]

That’s the issue though.

[severe fox]

Adding to ac

[humble cairn]

I had a character who used a cloak wrapped around his off hand as a shield, in an Italian Rapier and Cloak style.

[humble cairn]

It's not an issue for me. I'd rather the mechanics be simple so they get out of the way of story telling.

[civic palm]

A fair point, however most other items have at least some variance.

Weapons have the most as they are what you use to hit stuff…

[humble cairn]

And I'm not saying that having more gritty or complex mechanics is bad, it's just not for me. It may be for you.

[civic palm]

Armor has different uses based on its make or material…

[wanton raft]

can you add bracers to armor?

[civic palm]

The shield? Aside from enchantments, it’s really only one thing.

[humble cairn]

Sure. Mechanically it doesn't do anything, but you can do it.

[wanton raft]

oh...

[civic palm]

For such a critically important item to many builds, it would be nice if it had more variety.

[humble cairn]

The mechanics of 5E are rather simple. The weapons are what they are, broad stats that can stand for all sorts of things rather than having a specific stat for every single style of weapon. A scimitar and a falchion and a khopesh and a dao are all going to basically use the "scimitar" stats.

[civic palm]

Like a tower shield variant; more expensive than a normal shield, and decreases movement speed as it’s hard to position properly. However, you gain the benefits of half cover instead of the normal AC boost.

[humble cairn]

Or whatever is the closest weapon for what yo want.

[humble cairn]

Sure, for some people. I wouldn't prefer the weapon/armor system to get much more complex, personally.

[civic palm]

As a player or as a DM?

[severe fox]

There is the magic item

[wanton raft]

oh i was just curious. I definitely don't want to add to my AC

[humble cairn]

Mostly as a player, I suppose.

[wanton raft]

not yet at least

[paper portal]

hi chat

[civic palm]

Fair.
Another shield idea, the Buckler: a smaller shield that increases armor class by one rather than two, but allows the user to wield a two-handed weapon, dual wield, or perform somatic components. However, the shield has a flaw in which it can break under enough force. For every attack that misses by exactly one, roll a d20. On a one, the shield breaks.

Enchanted versions would be resistant to this, but it can’t go beyond a +1.

Not enough space for runes, or something.

[short brook]

Tower shields and bucklers would be dope.

[paper portal]

the last part feels pretty unnecessary tbh

[lyric viper]

Feels very PF2e, but would be a little at odds with 5e

[rough basalt]

Yeah this sounds like pf2e

[paper portal]

this sounds like pf2e imo

[rough basalt]

It's actually the pf2e buckler rules, but a lot stronger

Just checked

[paper portal]

yeah its pretty much +1ac with no downside tbh

assuming you dont already have a shield

[rough basalt]

The runes bit being just pathfinder too

Actually this whole shield convo is just adding Pathfinder shield mechanics

[scenic nexus]

Older editions used to have basically three types of shield

[rough basalt]

Depending on the edition, the design intent was as much rules and crunch as possible

But 5es is least amount of crunch they can afford without throwing out what makes dnd, dnd.

[scenic nexus]

3e just for example had Bucklers and Light Shields which gave 1 AC

Heavy Shields which gave 2

And Tower Shields that gave 4

[rough basalt]

Ye they work well in pathfinder and old dnd

[scenic nexus]

From looking at the rules Tower Shields can also give cover

[rough basalt]

Which in the games they're in works well

[scenic nexus]

Yeah I am just giving some history, I personally plan to keep just one type of shield myself

[rough basalt]

It is funny how its just the pathfinder shield rules tho

But without most of the downsides.

[scenic nexus]

Bucklers are not really convenient enough to hold a second weapon with them from what I recall

[rough basalt]

You can hold a light weapon with them if the gm allows

But generally Pf2e's shield system would be at odds with 5es core.

[scenic nexus]

PF is an overall crunchier game what with being an alternate evolution of D&D 3e

[rough basalt]

Ye Pathfinder went the path of "nah bro. Rules and crunch. We don't need none of that handwaiving and streamlining."

[scenic nexus]

There still is a decent amount in some areas I think

[rough basalt]

I think in 2e there is

1e I've been told is just extremely rigid rules for everything

[scenic nexus]

Sorry that’s what I was referring to

[rough basalt]

Ah I've been told 1e requires a dedicated player who doesn't play to ponder the archives of rules to make sure there's no rule unused.

[twin flax]

Quick Question: How would you Kill a follower of bhaal without it sufficing as a murder for a Bhaal follower?

[scenic nexus]

Self defence is not murder

[scenic nexus]

That’s not quite the case from my reading

[twin flax]

What about hunting them down for a bounty as they have been killing normal people?

[rough basalt]

I'd probably designate a player as the rules librarian if I played pf anyways

[severe rampart]

DMed an amazing session! Players nearly died multiple times but they succeeded!

[paper portal]

not enough death imoimo

[rough basalt]

Justice.

[severe rampart]

next session, next session...

[scenic nexus]

OD&D, Basic D&D, and Advanced D&D recommend having a caller, a player who would additionally keep track of certain things and say what the group would do after they agreed

Oh wait you were talking Pathfinder

In that case it was largely just 3e with some parts simplified and some parts expanded, but kept mostly backwards compatible

[scenic nexus]

If the Bounty is dead or alive then it’s generally ok to kill the target and it would not count as murder. Generally the right thing to do is to offer a chance to surrender first

[rough basalt]

Can't complain about being killed if you're a killer yourself

[still plover]

Does the god of murder concern himself with the mortal view of legality?

[shut veldt]

Yall want to know how to make banana bread

[vague meadow]

I think my party’s barbarian is about to attack Durnan, the yawning portal’s tavernkeep ;-;

[rough basalt]

Letem die

[still plover]

Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, for example.

[vague meadow]

I can’t do anything about it, I’m just watching baffled 0-0

[shut veldt]

So no bread

[vague meadow]

Cause this is right after him telling us he reached the bottom of the dungeon 🤣

[rough basalt]

Some players need to learn the hard way.

[still plover]

You could ask.

[rough basalt]

Ah right I was assuming you already told him it'll be a bad idea above table.

I don't got any of that

[vague meadow]

He’s been warned quite thoroughly XD

[rough basalt]

Aight then killem

[vague meadow]

Yeah I feel like he may die in a few moments between either Volo or Durnan

[rough basalt]

Or well for first offense, beat the crap out of him

[still plover]

Why do they think their character should attack? What's their motivation?

[rough basalt]

Whats Volo gonna do?

[severe rampart]

Is there a specific method you need to do to melt the butter?

[vague meadow]

Idk we think he’s a caster

[shut veldt]

No not relly you can do how ever you want

[rough basalt]

He is but ||he's like the weakest of the weak, he's a level 1 wizard and a bad one at that||

[vague meadow]

I knew it 🤣

[rough basalt]

He's an absolute clown

[vague meadow]

My character has been so sus of his capabilities this entire time

[rough basalt]

Funniest thing is, he's a weave anchor.
Basically a backup that keeps the weave moving if Mystra dies

[vague meadow]

I clearly don’t know enough lore good lord what

[rough basalt]

Mystra chose him cause he's so dumb and useless nobody would suspect him

[vague meadow]

LMAO

[rough basalt]

He's also well hated by most of faerun for his problematic writing and hated by the rest for being annoying

[vague meadow]

He owes us a good chunk of money

My party that is

[rough basalt]

Not surprising.

Books haven't been selling well since he got cancelled for his problematic views.

[limber trail]

He appeared in a session I played today (Ti’s Waterdeep game) to a…. strong reaction

[rough basalt]

He shows up in another module I've tried to run

[limber trail]

Maybe I should have him be a multiversal constant and throw him into my own campaign

[rough basalt]

Rightfully so the Dwarf beat him up for his writings.

I think it's the one case in the modules he appears in where it's actually a Good act to randomly attack him.

[limber trail]

Beating up volo is a goal of many a Faerun resident

[rough basalt]

Cause Mystra will just revive him somewhere else but he gets to remember his punishment

And no matter how many times he dies, it's not enough

Remember one of the Faerunan mottos "the only good Volo is a dead Volo"

[tawdry wasp]

hello guys im new to DND im planning on Setting up a Game night with some friends and wanted to attend a sesh before hosting so i can better understand Dice interactionswith world and storytelling

[wanton raft]

Hi buddy

[tawdry wasp]

hello

[wanton raft]

welcome

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

• Instructions for finding a game here on the server (including how to post in our #looking-for channels).
• Suggestions for finding a game outside of this server.
• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[wanton raft]

there's a lot of resources for first time players

[tawdry wasp]

i had convos with Chatgpt and i kinda understand how DM should be playing but i wanna see it in action

[paper portal]

yeah chatgpt isnt the best for games like this

it gets things mixed up a lot

[wanton raft]

watch d&d actual plays or guides

there's many on youtube

[rough basalt]

Using chatgpt to learn will only lead to more issues than not knowing what to do.

[tender pier]

Hey question
Would a mecha-steampunk dragon be a good idea for a DnD campaign?

Context
Currently working on future regions and more species for my friends to enjoy for the world I made for them

They just like whatever i throw at them as long as it's justified and fair (even unbalanced stuff If it makes sense)

[paper portal]

that sounds cool as hell

[reef tundra]

Oh god please don’t use ChatGPT with dnd stuff. Somehow it’s even more of an idiot when it comes to dnd

[humble cairn]

A Great Beast which devours the soul of humankind and vomits forth the stitched corpses of their dreams, revenants animated by dark magic which pollutes the earth, the skies, and the waters.

[reef tundra]

Exactly

And it doesn’t know the first thing about dnd

[limber trail]

I have not ever found ChatGPT to be a reliable, accurate, and nuanced source on DnD

[undone rain]

Chatgpt can somehow tell you that 2+2 is 8

[severe rampart]

it is quite frankly, worse than asking a pre-schooler about DnD

[reef tundra]

Precisely. I can ask my little brother about dnd and he can give me more accurate answers

[limber trail]

Shoutout the beautiful "Rings of Protection should cost 40,000gp because you can have up to 10 of them" incident

Which isn't how any of that works

lives rent free in my head

[undone rain]

Dont know how it can be so wrong on anything

[limber trail]

There's a solid like three rules being broken there

[reef tundra]

I still remember the time it suggested a Monk ability where as a bonus action you can enter a stance that lets you attack anyone within 5 feet of you as a free action. Then it said you also gain the benefits of a dash action

120 feet of movement speed and able to attack anyone within 5 feet as a free action 😭

[limber trail]

....Yes, free actions, things that exist in dnd

[reef tundra]

I have no idea what it was trying to say. Was it trying to imply you can just run past people and attack with no action needed 😭

[severe rampart]

let him try to do it, let him try to get hit with a dozen opportunity attacks

[limber trail]

(Funnily enough, I play a homebrew monk subclass which almost has this)

[reef tundra]

So That mofo didn’t even make anything original, as always

[serene jolt]

-# I mean rings of protection are pretty powerful tbf
40,000gp powerful? No. But still.

[limber trail]

haha yeah

AI is very very silly though

truly just no grasp on the mechanics

[serene jolt]

Although I'm not against ai persay, I wouldn't trust one as a DM at this point in time. If you wanna do that, just go online and grab one of them 'choose your own adventures'. XD

Or better yet just go to #looking-for-dm or #looking-for-players and find a game/dm. There are lots of people with open games.

And if time/scheduling is an issue, westmarches are a great option

[limber trail]

So out of curiosity I decided to quickly see how it is these days since it's been a few months since I tried it. I asked chatgpt a fairly simple question: How do you drink a potion in DnD 2024

Did you know, when you drink a potion of healing, you can choose to either roll for the healing or take the maximum hitpoints? You can just take max HP!
Did you also know, it takes an action to administer to someone else? Nevermind that the PHB says it's a bonus action.

I then asked it what mistakes it made. It caught a really big one!

Apparently, drinking a potion isn't a bonus action, it's actually an action!

So yeah, not a very reliable source

[severe rampart]

Digging a bigger and bigger hole

[delicate owl]

Ngl I did the same, and it didnt accept 5.5e so it gave me mostly what the 2014 rules were but when I asked for the 2024 rules of DnD it gave me the correct response.

So results may vary, but yeah, just go find the srd lol

[limber trail]

Results definitely vary, but yeah the PHB just doesn’t

[delicate owl]

Yeee, da rulez be da rulez

[vague meadow]

Ah it appears my dnd party may be in a dream, likely a night hag

Rapidly growing more terrified

[severe rampart]

it appears? aren't you the DM? 😭

[analog cloud]

guys question, is there a thread here where it talks about bastions?

[wanton hull]

Have they figured that out yet?

If not, then I’d suggest putting a book with a ton of jumbled and warped text

[wanton hull]

Don’t think so twin

[cursive thorn]

I am guessing because of the ambiguity, they are the player theorising.

[analog cloud]

got it, ty

[vague meadow]

We were in fact in a dream, we were matrix’d

[humble cairn]

There's no specific channel for that, unless you're asking about how the rules work, in which case it would be #dnd-rules

[analog cloud]

No, not the rules, more like recommendations for my character

[severe rampart]

#character-discussion

[marble lion]

I come to you now with my woes

DnD has been cancelled

[severe rampart]

What has happened?

[severe rampart]

Ah, that's sad, happens to my two campaigns so much it doesn't even bother me any more

[marble lion]

I havent played in half a year

[severe rampart]

so really the whole week I gotta wait for the game I DM, thankfully my players all attend :)

[severe rampart]

Damn

[blissful ibex]

Come play AL c:
fairly consistent games on the online AL discord servers, especially if you hop on the wait-list early

[paper portal]

hi méabhy

[marble lion]

The tip is welcome thanks

[blissful ibex]

or if you're a DM, they have a lot of support and assistance for running and you can use the Dungeoncraft system to make your own modules

[sonic lagoon]

me and my dad dont know how to dm what should we do

[blissful ibex]

the basic rules have the instructions https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/the-basics

that's the first chapter

[paper portal]

imo join optimization servers for games instead because stronger characters are surely more interesting

[sonic lagoon]

hes read them but he still dont know

[paper portal]

you can learn, or you can look for a dm here in the #looking-for-dm channel

[marble lion]

nope

[paper portal]

aww

[blissful ibex]

to be fair, AL Has a decent mix of optimized and more standard characters

[limber trail]

Optimization games are an experience but not everyone's cup of tea

[paper portal]

tbh i think the gap between AL optimization and optimizer optimization is quite a lot

[blissful ibex]

not likely to the same extent, but it's there for the people who like it

[paper portal]

cant say ive rly interacted with AL but theyre probably a 3/6

[blissful ibex]

we have our share of Asamar Wild Heart (totem) barbarians, and people who stack minor effects on common magic items for shenanigans

You can also have multiple characters you can match the level of optimizations the table

[paper portal]

ah yeah totem barb caps out at 2

[paper portal]

yeah i very much agree everyone should try to play to the same level

no fun in having one person way stronger than the rest

[sonic lagoon]

can someone be my dm

[blissful ibex]

#find-a-game has instructions to post to #looking-for-dm or you can check #looking-for-players to find DMs who are looking for players for active or upcoming games

[river vector]

Lucky that they all attend

[severe rampart]

Yeah, the most they've ever been late is 10 minutes

I am blessed

[blissful ibex]

truly

[severe rampart]

Look at me, I got a party that listens, engages in the story, and roleplays, along with the fact that they've got good chemistry with each other

[river vector]

I understand if something unexpected pops up like "I have to watch my brother"

[river vector]

Wow so lucky, you are the chosen one. (Lol)

But literally a few times they were playing games and were late 🫩

[severe rampart]

My players tell me if they're going to be a little late, or if they have to go right after a session, etc.

[sonic lagoon]

can someone be my dm

pleassssssssssse

[river vector]

#looking-for-dm

Begging will get you nothing lmao

[sonic lagoon]

i have done that

[blissful ibex]

Then wait for a response c:
Have to go through the proper channels here

[sonic lagoon]

ok

[cursive thorn]

You may have to wait for more than 6 minutes.

[blissful ibex]

otherwise see if you two can join an exisiting Looking for Players posting

[cursive thorn]

It can take a while to get a group/DM

[river vector]

There are other lfg areas online

[blissful ibex]

and offline too

[river vector]

On Reddit there is r/lfg

Post there as well

[blissful ibex]

Check out your local game store, community center, library, or boardgame cafe to see if they have anyone runing introductory oneshots maybe

[idle oar]

As a reminder generally, it's off-topic to soliciti/organize games outside of the Looking For Game channels. Please see #find-a-game to get some useful info on how to find a game and also specifically how to use our Looking For Game channels.

(also kudso to the community for your great advice on how to find a game - thanks!)

[proper forum]

Hello D&D experts. Do the Eldrich Invocations Curse Bringer and Improved Pact Weapon stack?

[blissful ibex]

not sure what Curse Bringer is

[proper forum]

They are both Eldrich invocations I said that

[viral kraken]

what does curse bringer do?

[blissful ibex]

Is it third party? I'm not aware of 'Curse Bringer' as a First Party, RAW EI option in either 5e or 5.5e

[idle oar]

What's the short paraphrased recap of the features?

[proper forum]

Nope. You have to be both a hexblade abd have pact of the blade to use it. Your pact weapon becomes a greatsword and if you drop an enemy cursed with hexblade's curse to zero hp with it you can transfer the curse to another target.

[viral kraken]

it's not first or third party, it's evidently playtest material

[cursive thorn]

It was UA

[river vector]

Unearthed arcana is always the most broken stuff I've noticed

[viral kraken]

well not all of it, only the stuff that never makes it out

[blissful ibex]

to be fair, it's literally just a worse version of the level 14 hexblade subclass feature

[viral kraken]

i think the brokenness might be explicitly why it never makes it out of playtest lol

[proper forum]

I had no idea and I'm surprised

[blissful ibex]

but yeah, those should stack, assuming your DM lets you use it as it was basicaly made into the level 14 feature of the Hexblade subclass and base pact of the blade can make greatswords anyway

[paper portal]

it tends to be either broken or underpowered, hence why its ua and not official

[river vector]

True, but some other unearthed arcana... Broken af.

[blissful ibex]

The mystic class for one :x

[proper forum]

Well my dm allowed it so...

[blissful ibex]

then you're good to go

[viral kraken]

did the dm say how those stack?

[paper portal]

i like ur little nodding creature

[blissful ibex]

I have several

[idle oar]

I'll allow that many this time but mind the spamming rules

But they are amusing

[blissful ibex]

will do

[paper portal]

anyways i gotta figure out what spells to take for this campaign so what would you guys say the best 2nd level ones are :3

[proper forum]

He didn't know

[proper forum]

What is your class. And what do you want your role to be.

[viral kraken]

oh interesting

[paper portal]

warlock! level 3

mostly my job in the party is to spam repelling blast lol but anything else helps too

[river vector]

My warlock player took eyes of the rune keeper so yeah, not understanding the ancient text in ancient books? Not an issue.

[winter glacier]

I made a homebrew race that is good for melee but it’s not broke it’s called a bearer

[viral kraken]

so if the question is just if the damage stacks, yes. you create the greatsword using your pact of the blade, so it is your pact weapon right?

[river vector]

I'm glad it's not broke. Wouldn't want to miss out on that sweet gold.

[winter glacier]

A bearer is a lineage type race like Dhampir or hex blood

Also I meant broken my bad

[safe raptor]

Ok I’m looking through my statblocks for the encounter this week and I realized I Mabye should not have giving the BBEG a axe of the dwarves lords, even though my pc are level 20 I think I have to scale him down

[river vector]

No no, I just saw the opportunity for a joke lol

[proper forum]

If you use elrich blast a lot make sure to pick up Agonizing Blast in the future. If I remember correctly Hellish Rebuke is second level and it's really good. If you want pure damage pick up Witch Bolt as your second spell (I know it's first level okay?) If you want more survivability pick up shield.

[winter glacier]

Oh lol

[blissful ibex]

Invisibility, Suggestion, Misty step

[winter glacier]

I member my first class was warlock fiend tiefling because I thought it sounded cool

[paper portal]

fiendlocks are pretty awesome imo

[proper forum]

And if you want utility pick up invisibility or darkness.

[winter glacier]

I think playing warlock as your first class is good because it’s kinda dog at the start of the campaign made me feel like a support

[blissful ibex]

love me some Repelling Blast + Grasp of Hadar for moving enemies around

[winter glacier]

I had crown of madness

[blissful ibex]

darkness requires that the Party is set up for it though
blindfighting/skulker (which people should take more anyway) and Devil's Sight and whatnot

[paper portal]

maybe they should make an invo where if you have both of those you can move enemies sideways too

[winter glacier]

I didn’t even realize eldritch invocations were a thing

[proper forum]

It only moves them for 5 feet so I found out it doesn't make that big of a difference. Early on I dropped grasp of hadar for eldrich sight.

[paper portal]

yeah the best invos are agonizing and repelling by far

[river vector]

My Warlock player took hold person. So it will do nothing to BBEG, but arc villain might get destroyed which would be funny after all the times he spoke garbage to the party.

[blissful ibex]

it's 10 feet in 5.5e c:

[proper forum]

So you're telling me I have to force my entire party to play around MY playstyle? No thanks.

[winter glacier]

I got a set 11 reverse holo 2016 charizard

[blissful ibex]

hence why I prefer invisibility over darkness
though it has its uses as well

[proper forum]

I have hold person don't I? I think I do.

[proper forum]

I have both haha 😈

[blissful ibex]

It's a lot worse in 5.5e; they changed a lot of creature types away from humanoid

well, still just as good, just usable in less scenarios

[proper forum]

We play in 5E normal so we chilin

[blissful ibex]

I have fog cloud, sleet storm, or hunger of hadar if I need to obstruct vision c:

also PWT and silence

[proper forum]

I'm a drow. Darkness for Mr is a racial feature. I wouldn't have chosen it normally but it has its uses.

[viral kraken]

Power Word Techno?

[paper portal]

i think its pretty interesting that out of those first 4 the one that deals damage is actually the weakest

[blissful ibex]

Pass Without Trace; blanket +10 to stealth checks to allies within 30 ft of the caster

[paper portal]

pass without trace, best spell in 5e

[proper forum]

I mainly use it as an emergency exist if I have taken too much damage and I'm close to an enemy

[blissful ibex]

it's also a good counter to spellcasters, sight based monster abilities, and pack tactics

[viral kraken]

best spell in 5e is prestidigitation imho

[proper forum]

Also if what I'm typing doesn't make sense it's my autocorrect being stupid

[blissful ibex]

would say Find Familiar edges it out

[paper portal]

yeah but im a filthy optimizer and we know how broken surprise is :3

[viral kraken]

we'll just take them all! lol

[blissful ibex]

they fixed it in 5.5e; it just confers disadvantage on the surprised party's initiative rolls
also hide gives the invisible condition so it gives advantage on the roll

[paper portal]

yeah probably the most justified change in the whole edition

[proper forum]

I'm not using that thing again dawg it got my character kicked out of a store back in my first campaign so I don't have the best opinion of it.

[humble cairn]

Yes, Surprise 2014 is broken.

It was too powerful and bent the power scale of builds around itself.

[proper forum]

That's who I aspire to be but I'm not good enough yet.

[viral kraken]

if i was a shopkeeper i would kick out anyone casting spells if they did not explicitly tell me what it was and ask permission. could be distort value or suggestion

[blissful ibex]

My primary character is stylized as something between like a wilderness guide and a druidic knight errant, so she has it to keep clean and warm/chil/flavor food and drink a bit while in the field c:

[viral kraken]

even then might not let em

[paper portal]

there's still quite a few people a lot better than me but im getting there!!

[proper forum]

(Anime protagonist voice) I must become even better... I shall become... the greatest! The strongest the world has ever seen!

[severe rampart]

You better believe it!

[proper forum]

I wanted to clean blood off my body

[blissful ibex]

I like a mild level of optomization
Though I need it seeing as I play a fairly deep full caster multiclass with 2 different casting abilities O_o

[paper portal]

personally my preferred level is 4/6 but the rating system is very much optimizer lingo lol

[proper forum]

Two of my fellow players who were with me since my first campaign were optimizers. They were talking to eachother about optimization and both had really strong characters. So naturally in this environment I was impressed and wanted to become like them or even surpass them.

[severe rampart]

I like levels 6-7, feels like just the right amount of control

[humble cairn]

Optimization is a skill, a useful one, but not one that genuinely makes the game fun for me. I use it, but I would rather use it efficiently with a light touch and get it out of the way for the real fun, like good flavor and lore.

[proper forum]

This is my villain arc get it?

[knotty pasture]

I like my 2.5/6 but talk about 4/6 on the regular

[paper portal]

4!!!

[humble cairn]

I have no idea what those numbers mean.

[severe rampart]

levels

[proper forum]

Me neither

Levels of what??

[paper portal]

personally i really like the thought behind making strong characters :3 optimization is very much my thing though not just in dnd

[humble cairn]

And I think I probably wouldn't care to.

[blissful ibex]

character levels?

[paper portal]

its just a scale we use for levels of optimization, with 0/6 being dumping con and 6/6 being the strongest thing we really allow

there is 7/6 for the really insane gamebreaking stuff too

[humble cairn]

So sweatiness level?

[paper portal]

pretty much lol

[viral kraken]

is dumping con not a part of minmaxing characters who aren't supposed to be hit?

[knotty pasture]

1-2 is probably where most people are, 2 is when you're optimizing a character concept but otherwise don't filter out unviable options

[paper portal]

nah the lowest you ever want con is 12 but even thats pretty uncommon

[knotty pasture]

3 is when you began filtering out the melee martials

[blissful ibex]

issue is you need it for concentration checks and HP totals and you are going to be hit at some point

[humble cairn]

Oh ew ok that's beyond what I want.

[viral kraken]

good to know i can tell my dm my character has a optimization of 0/6 then lol

[knotty pasture]

4 is when all martials (excluding Ranger and Paladin) get filtered out, 3-4 is around the area where you began dabbling in multiclassing

[paper portal]

yeah getting hit is an inevitability even at 6/6 (invulnerability does exist but we keep that at 7/6 for obvious reasons)

[knotty pasture]

The further you go the more complex it gets

[humble cairn]

Too sweaty for me.

[paper portal]

surprisingly taking no damage ever is slightly game breaking

[knotty pasture]

I like my character concepts but talking about the theoretical limit for research is nice

[dark pewter]

A reminder folks, that we have #optimization for the crunchier, more in-depth optimizing discussions

[humble cairn]

I'm more of the camp of thought where the lore and flavor of a character are what's actually real and the mechanics are just a metagame representation.

[blissful ibex]

just have to circle cast invulnerability so it lasts 1450 minutes
issue is you can still drop concentration off of stuff like Sleet Storm or debuffs

[analog cloud]

guys question about my battle specialized evoker wizard

for the bastion, is it worth it he gets an arcane study?

[paper portal]

soonest i know how to get it is level 7 but theres probably a way at level 1

[minor cargo]

I gotta be honest. I never had much of an inclination to optimize in D&D. I need a build that works and is effective. It’s just gotta be sufficient and satisfactory.

And now that I know there’s a whole rating system of optimization, even if it measures my preference, makes me even more averse to the word. 😩

[blissful ibex]

It has good crafting options

[umbral girder]

Sure!

[humble cairn]

Once you get to level 9 you can start crafting magic items in the background.

[analog cloud]

I can usually pick 1 and afraid of getting another special facility other than barracks

[humble cairn]

And if you don't have a pearl woth 100gp it can be useful to use for Identify.

[humble cairn]

Why?

[proper forum]

Yeah the reason I do it is to impress my friends 😭

[analog cloud]

if it gets invaded, automatically i won't have defense, it will be disabled for a turn

[paper portal]

i do it cus i like seeing all the pieces come together in a cool build :3 its not for everyone though

[humble cairn]

But it comes back, and it generally won't get ranodmly invaded if you keep it busy making foci.

[knotty pasture]

Going pure casual is a okay, the rating was mainly a way to recognize what level of advice people want to talk about

I think I sympathize more with the pure casual crowd these days too now

[humble cairn]

The thing is there's absolutely ways to be non-casual about the game in a non-optimization way.

Like hardcore narrativists or actor/thespians.

[knotty pasture]

Any% speedrun on Descent Into Avernus, go

[crystal latch]

What multipliers on number of enemies?

[knotty pasture]

1x, because any% would imply you want to finish the campaign with as little time as possible

[blissful ibex]

The Emerald Enclave give a funky version of the Barracks where you can recruit from a list of more nature alligned monster statblocks to function as defenders c:

[humble cairn]

So calling non-optimizers "casuals" is .. ehh.

[analog cloud]

he's still lvl 5 so he only gets the basics and 2 special facilities

[proper forum]

Also this is my villain arc. I saw my friends power playing and making really overpowered characters and I got jealous and now I want to become like them. I want these players to look at my character and do "wow Sang you're so strong"!

[humble cairn]

What makes sense for your character's personality and history?

[rotund thunder]

Now, there are people who play the game "casually" in the sense that they are just there to hang out with friends and never actually learn the game

[rotund thunder]

Join the dark side...

[blissful ibex]

I'm in 2 games with a professional voice actor

[humble cairn]

Beer and Pretzel style games

[proper forum]

Did someone say my name?

[analog cloud]

he's alignment is chaotic evil, but that's because the evil state where he grew up took everything away from him. So he has a reason to grew resentment. But has a soft heart for people who are helpless

[rotund thunder]

Right, though it can suck when you're in a situation like I was where I expected my friends to be narrative or at least mechanically aware players but were really just there for a beer and pretzels style game, as they barely understood sneak attack or that the ranger even had spells at all for 3 years

[humble cairn]

Nah, I didn't ask about Alignment. What is your personality?

[crystal latch]

I'm mainly interested in pushing the 5e optimization meta further, discovering things better than what was already known etc.

[analog cloud]

my or my character?

[blissful ibex]

I optomize for the Exploration Pillar more so than the Combat one so it tends to not cause as much issue as like a nova build or something would

[humble cairn]

Sorry, your character.

[crystal latch]

I pretty much always do 6/6 or 7/6

[knotty pasture]

Why is this an issue though fr, it doesn't have negative implications behind it

[flint kayak]

hello im planning on starting a dnd campign (homebrew) as a dm. how do i send invites to the ⁠looking-for-players

[blissful ibex]

#find-a-game has instructions; skip to where it says Join as a DM

[humble cairn]

It kinda does? At least when I've heard it bandied about. Besides that, it's also inaccurate

[paper portal]

umm nerrrd :3

[knotty pasture]

In gaming terms casual literally does mean unranked, no stakes games where everyone wants to chill instead of getting locked in

[analog cloud]

methodical, disciplined, cynical (especially when it comes to authority), ruthless, doesn't understand the meaning of "forgiveness"

[proper forum]

And it's hard because yes I want to make overpowered characters who deal tons of damage but I'm also a writer and I want to make interesting characters with rich lore and for them to use things that would make sense thematically for them.

[analog cloud]

quiet but boiling with rage

[marble lion]

I take dnd very serious, as a storytelling thing
I optimise rp, backstories, situations to feel immersed
Not casual at all
But putting priority on numbers is not for me at all

[blissful ibex]

but calling someone 'a casual' has negitive connotations

[crystal latch]

Damage is one of the lesser indicators of truly being overpowered
Because this system has a hard control meta

[flint kayak]

Many thanks

[proper forum]

Is it too much to ask for both?

[knotty pasture]

See I really don't get it on that front, would actors sound better? The masses?

[blissful ibex]

you can do both

[knotty pasture]

What do we call people who just want to have a good time in dnd without thinking much in general

[crystal latch]

Tbf the best builds have the best damage, the best control, the best <five billion other things> and more all at the same time
Because the opportunity cost of being a jack of all trades and master of more is practically nothing

[paper portal]

you can absolutely do both! personally i find it easier to write interesting characters if theyre optimized cus theres a lot less decision paralysis with all the options

[humble cairn]

I've been playing TTRPGs since before ranked video games were a thing .. I think. Give or take some years there. I've heard terms come and go and the word casual in my dredging of the zeitgeist has often been paired with the word "filthy."

[knotty pasture]

Yeah that's a you thing, I ensure you there is no degradation behind the word when I use it

[proper forum]

Look buddy I saw my friend play a homebrew druid with homebrew wild shape that did like 100 damage per turn and that impression stayed with me.

[knotty pasture]

Else I would have been insulting way too many people outside of dnd alone

[proper forum]

And yes I know homebrew is technically cheating

[knotty pasture]

Its more like modding in a video game

[humble cairn]

Which is fine, but in using words you are also expected to be aware of the impact and not just the intention behind them.

[blissful ibex]

hence why heavy homebrew like that should be avoided unless everyone is in on it XD

[paper portal]

what was sil's flying snake damage again? i think 400 lol

[knotty pasture]

See the thing is that I really don't, not until now at least

[open moss]

my dm and my whole party hates me

[paper portal]

yeah homebrew and optimization dont really mix for pretty obvious reasons

[crystal latch]

Highest damage I ever pulled off was a surprise round with a level 20 moon knight

[open moss]

idk why

[knotty pasture]

Its like if you called me a PC gamer, should I be offended kind of thing

[marble lion]

Saying casual dnd is fine
Saying playing casually is fine
Calling someone a casual can hurt

[limber trail]

What makes you say that?

[knotty pasture]

Oh so I have to add casual dnd instead of just casuals when referring to the majority, got it

[paper portal]

average moon knight gameplay tbh

[blissful ibex]

I did 590 damage with a single, 3rd level cast of Sleet Storm once c:

[humble cairn]

But see, optimization isn't the only way to think hard about the game. Like I mentioned before the hardcore narrativists and the actor/thespians are also a style of play that is not optimization but is also not casual.

[analog cloud]

I saw a homebrew final boss has legendary actions where he goes in between each player's innitiatives, for he can warp spacetime and can counter silvery barbs. Killed half of the team to dust with no chance to use revivify

[limber trail]

a level 20 what

[proper forum]

Is this homebrew?

[knotty pasture]

But that's nothing to do with what I said when I said I sympathize with casual (dnd)

[crystal latch]

It is not homebrew

[paper portal]

it's a druid/monk/barbarian/cleric something something (i might be remembering that wrong) but essentially you stack a bunch of different buffs to your claws and hit people like a truck

[marble lion]

Yes because if one player happens to find a character that is optimised in numbers, it forces the DM and every other party member to match that or get left behind
If the table is all for it, thats fine

[limber trail]

Ah

[knotty pasture]

I simply just made an observation that I sympathize with something

Must there be a deeper meaning behind it

[crystal latch]

Moon Knight is a monk/druid/barb build that makes every single error possible - it's a melee skirmisher moon druid with Mobile that takes barbarian levels and yet it has the highest DPR of any martial in the game

Seven wrongs make a right kind of thing

[paper portal]

oh theres no cleric in there?

[open moss]

they wont believe me when i say that door noobs and apples are mimics so cast charisma on them

[limber trail]

The doorknobs and apples... might not be mimics

[humble cairn]

It may not be, but you are contrasting optimizer with "casual" and then saying that casual is about not thinking too hard about the game, as if optimization is the only way to think hard and be intellectual about the game.

[crystal latch]

Moon druid 2/monk 1/barbarian 6/gloom stalker 3/battle master 3/assassin 3/last 2 levels are free

[blissful ibex]

what does 'cast charisma' mean?

[knotty pasture]

How do I refer to the group of people who don't think anything about the game then, this is leaning into whataboutism

Or should I take back my sympathy

[marble lion]

Casual should refer to dnd that is laidback without much effort
Both build opti and committed storytelling are not casual dnd

[open moss]

im just charming the door noob and the apples'

[knotty pasture]

Yes that's what I mean, I sympathize with the group of people that are laidback with their games without giving much effort

[random sphinx]

Is there a separate space we talk about 3.5 in? Or is it just all in here lol

[blissful ibex]

if it's a mimic, it's a mimic XD
They're not terribly strong and they're not really used all that much anyway

[humble cairn]

There is definitely a notable style of TTRPG play, the "Beer and Pretzel" style of gameplay, where people get together to drink, eat snacks, and just do funny stuff in game without thinking too hard about it.

[knotty pasture]

I don't need to what about optimizers, what about aspiring boardway actors, what about worldbuilders

[paper portal]

pretty sure theres a channel for old versions floating around somewhere

[minor cargo]

I think maybe there’s a good question before that point.

Why are we trying to categorize community members?

Of course there are reasons, but I mean IMO there’s a time and a place. It certainly isn’t helpful all the time. In fact, IMO it’s usually only helpful in very, very strict cases.

[knotty pasture]

So that's what its all about, me using the word casual instead of beer and pretzels

[cursive thorn]

#dnd-elder-editions

[crystal latch]

According to all known optimization principles, this has no right to be viable
It makes every mistake possible in the first dozen levels
And yet it casually morbs over multiple dragons

[knotty pasture]

I sympathize with the beer and pretzels, that better?

[random sphinx]

Thank you!!

[paper portal]

yeah cus clawtech is peak as hell

[analog cloud]

guys question on the bastion, arcane study is good? (i fear I can't have a bastion without barracks)

[crystal latch]

Clawtech and godlike creature tech

[paper portal]

i definitely should reread it though cus i had the level split a bit off in my brain

[blissful ibex]

It's helpful as a shorthand in session 0 and pre session 0 conversations when you're trying to communciate what you want out of a game

[marble lion]

Calling it casual should be fine

[knotty pasture]

See Ophid was saying its not fine!!

[crystal latch]

The 5.5e DMG attempts to define player types but it's largely meaningless words and straight-up wrong definitions

[knotty pasture]

I'm genuinely confused here lol

[analog cloud]

also on lvl 9, is teleportation circle good as well?

[crystal latch]

Yes, teleportation circle is broken

[blissful ibex]

yes, it's good, passively crafting magic items is incredibly good XD

[marble lion]

Cant please everyone, think about ppls feedback and pick your course

[analog cloud]

nice

[serene jolt]

Tell that to my party of level 4s with the Rug of Smothering and a room full of mimics. 🤣

[minor cargo]

I would share that asking “Should our game be more casual or more optimized?” is different than saying “You, on this Discord, are a casual.”

And I think that’s where Ophidimancer is coming from.

[humble cairn]

I think Haise did point out that "casual play" is fine but "casuals" sounds like an insult. and I would agree with that.

[serene jolt]

I found it hilarious. They didn't

[knotty pasture]

And then we went on about the Boardway actors, the worldbuilders...

[blissful ibex]

The rug just wants to give you a hug
it's not its fault that ||its suffocating|| XD

[random sphinx]

Our party wizard got tired of casting and used dimension door to get right behind the necromancer archmage to punch him????

[serene jolt]

🤣 To this day, my boyfriend doesn't trust rugs

[paper portal]

i think anyone (or thing) that wants hugs should get them

[knotty pasture]

You have to understand that I simply can't address everyone when I make a simple blanket statement

[paper portal]

thanks for the fish react haen

[serene jolt]

Oh no it's fine, I just took it as an opportunity to share

[knotty pasture]

"I sympathize with the casual (dnd) players, but yes of course I am excluding the Boardway guys and the worldbuilder guys!"

[serene jolt]

I agree mimics aren't that strong by a certain level.

But they're fun to use with low level parties

[paper portal]

yep i support all dnd players except people who meet on a tuesday

[random sphinx]

I would climb into a mimic if it said It had a switch 2 and a copy of pokopia inside

[random sphinx]

Ha! I meet on Tuesdays and Thursdays, so I still get support anyway >:)

[paper portal]

you get 50% of support

[random sphinx]

It's better than 0% :)

[paper portal]

real dnd fans know the only right time to meet is every 5th day (except tuesdays) at high tide /silly

[knotty pasture]

I draw the line at meeting on Mondays

Those people actually need to step on lego bricks /s

[blissful ibex]

I have a regular mondy game c:

[paper portal]

btw sublime any ideas what uncommon magic item should i pick up for my giga repeller in big big fish

[knotty pasture]

I'm bad with magic items, uhh

[paper portal]

real same thats why im asking you

[knotty pasture]

I like Gauntlets of Ogre Power? Though I just like stuff that give a super high amount of fixed stats in general

[crystal latch]

Wand of magic missiles is pretty good in Big Big Fish iirc

[severe rampart]

Cloak of Billowing

[random sphinx]

I have two campaigns happening at the same time in the same universe, Tuesday is underdark crew, who are trying to find where a horde of monsters came from, and Thursday is frantically trying to stop a calamity on the surface

[paper portal]

noted

maybe you should play what im using lol its 240ft knockback per round

sounds like a haen thing

[knotty pasture]

I'm only not joining BBF because I only enjoy talking about 4/6

I don't actually want to run around multiclassing and holding onto a TTB guide for dear life

[paper portal]

multiclassing is awesome

[crystal latch]

Multiclassing is awesome but there aren't enough classes

[paper portal]

im using a warlock 3/fighter 3/monk 14 lmao you definitely shouldnt stick to ttb for big big fish

[crystal latch]

I wish 5e had like... 100 proper classes

[knotty pasture]

League of Dungeons

[paper portal]

thats a lot of options to sift through for the best one

[knotty pasture]

Or is it Dragons of Legends

[crystal latch]

I want more caster types

[severe rampart]

Yes!

[blissful ibex]

I want them to bring back the optional gestalt ruleset as a semi official thing >:3

[paper portal]

yeah i think warlock being the favourite class of pretty much every high tier optimizer is pretty telling lol

[crystal latch]

I want to see dread necromancer, beguiler and warmage back

[blissful ibex]

we've got psion on the horizon more than likely c:

[crystal latch]

Fullcasters that have a very limited spell list around one theme but have their entire class spell list as spells known

[paper portal]

just in general alternative rules for levelling are interesting, the thing we were talking about lets casters be level 10, half casters 15 and martials 20 which is a really cool idea

[crystal latch]

New psion is so dull

Of all the things they could do, they just made another fullcaster

[severe rampart]

Bards however

I like Bards

I need a dancing jester bard to play next...

[blissful ibex]

I want more caster types
Another finger on the monkey's paw curls

[paper portal]

more like fards /silly

[humble cairn]

Oof, I would prefer not this.

[blissful ibex]

3/4th caster (8th level spell slot at level 20) could also be interesting XD

[severe rampart]

I take 1d6 psychic damage

[crystal latch]

3/4 caster would be interesting yeah

[severe rampart]

I'm alright with 12 classes (screw Artificer) , I just want more interesting sub classes

[crystal latch]

Though I don't trust WOTC's balancing ability when it comes to making the non-caster part of such a class into a worthwhile trade-off

[blissful ibex]

gish extra attack at the minimum c:

[paper portal]

just write your own ttrpg then duh

[crystal latch]

Yes, I really should

[paper portal]

maybe call it something like -5e

[severe rampart]

.5e

[viral kraken]

i call it Fivey

[hidden spindle]

Have it be 5e inspired/compatible and you're good

[severe rampart]

5.75e

Yeah, sounds about right

[lyric viper]

3.5 might be worth checking out if you haven't already, if you love that modular crunch

[crystal latch]

I love 3.5e but epic levels are so poorly designed that they make my brain hurt

[paper portal]

i think you look like captain crunch

[blissful ibex]

or pathfinder/pf2e

[paper portal]

hii nacho 👋

[lyric viper]

Epic levels never got the proper rebalancing from 3.0 yeah.,

[knotty pasture]

Pathfinder not having Warlock is sad but we did get the Witch

[paper portal]

speaking of alternate level progression haen wdyt of doing something where we allow one use of the dreaded multisubclassing

[humble cairn]

This is why I don't homebrew 5E. Once I start thinking about all the things I want to change I've gotten rid of classes entirely, at which point I really would be better off just playing a different game.

[paper portal]

thats so valid

[near karma]

h o w d o y o u k n o w

I wasn't even typing!

[hidden spindle]

Exactly. At that point, might as well make a game

[paper portal]

my evil psychic powers of course

[humble cairn]

So I don't bother. And I just play 5E pretty close to unaltered.

[knotty pasture]

Narrator: In truth, Wings just casted a lucky Faerie Fire in a random corner and it somehow hit Nacho, who somehow failed the save

[paper portal]

no i used my uncle detector

[knotty pasture]

Sure let's call it that

[severe rampart]

What's the funniest way to replace a lost limb in DnD?

[humble cairn]

5E runs just fine as long as you set your expectations in line with generic D&D.

[knotty pasture]

Pick Undying Warlock /s

[blissful ibex]

warlock pact for a random monster limb that doesn't obey you at all and gets you into shenanigans

[crystal latch]

Overall I'd want a system with

• epic level progression built into the game from the start
• good spell/magic item creation mechanics
• symmetrical PC/NPC design (an NPC wizard is built like an actual wizard, not an arbitrary number of d8 hit dice and X/Day innate spells)
• more build variety within classes (feats more frequently, invocation-type design/talents/whatever you want to call it)
• more types of caster classes with more meaningful differences
• no trivial armor dipping
• martials that actually do stuff
• bears being a species of fish
• high number of classes in general
• gold as XP or something similar as the core reward mechanic
• the game not breaking apart with downtime
• the game not breaking apart if you have below 10 encounters per day
• the game not breaking apart once you unlock a certain spell level

[humble cairn]

Mimic Prosthetic?

[knotty pasture]

Bears being a species of fish!!

[crystal latch]

Yeah, either bears already being fish or bears being fishable (3.5e lets you apply the aquatic subtype to a bear with a ritual in Savage Species)

[lyric viper]

I was going to suggest sentient item prosthetic. Liking a sentient sword, except it's your hand and it keeps back talking you

[near karma]

the overlap in spell lists is just way too much rn

[hidden spindle]

Sentient Prosthetic Limb

[knotty pasture]

Fishing bears for meat for daily survival is nice

[paper portal]

i love the idea of symmetrical npc design and gold as xp

[marble lion]

Funniest limb replacement?
A kobold in your trenchcoat

[severe rampart]

Hehe, funny... I might do that

[lyric viper]

Awakened topiary cut into the shape of a limb.

[marble lion]

Not sure id want that

[paper portal]

kind of like how lancer has items based on your level instead of your money

[crystal latch]

Spell list overlap is another thing, though I'm in favor of having sorc and wizard just use the same spell list as they did in 3.5

[severe rampart]

What's funny is if I do do this, my sorcerer player is gonna keep on talking to his prosthetic foot the whole campaign

[umbral girder]

Replace the entire body.

this post was made by the School of Necromancy gang

[river vector]

My warlock keeps talking to the lich in his head whenever they encounter undead (it's an undead themed campaign)

[crystal latch]

Make it so that slots from all classes are kept separate and only work with spells of that class
That then opens up options to make different caster types have a different number of slots, like sorc getting +1 slot of every level to make up for the fact that they're known casters and can't just switch their stuff around every day

[knotty pasture]

Ship of Theseus- I mean Strahd

Ship of Strahd, yes

[blissful ibex]

the old half-dragon statblock modifier is a thing, and sea serpents are a type of dragon in Fizban's so technically anything can be a 'fish' if you port or back port either of those

[severe rampart]

Mmm... Curse of Theseus

[crystal latch]

This reminded me of Harry Potter

[umbral girder]

People shipping Strahd? It better be with a wooden stake. /jk

[river vector]

strahd x tatyana crashed and burned a long time ago

(but don't tell strahd that)

[knotty pasture]

Watch me solve shipping issues with ao3

[severe rampart]

Strahd and that PC in the campaign he's obsessed with

[crystal latch]

Look up the "bears are fish" tag

[blissful ibex]

I'd like more modular classes; things like the cleric/druid level 1 feature that lets you pick between more spellcasting or a more martial setup or just a straight up feat based system like the Eldritch Invocations

[knotty pasture]

There's absolutely no way someone added a bears are fish tag in ao3

[crystal latch]

You underestimate the big big fish

[limber trail]

No there’s absolutely no way someone hasn’t

[river vector]

Strahd being disloyal smh

[knotty pasture]

Look I'd be wildly concerned if such a thing exists

[river vector]

(to himself)

[severe rampart]

I forgot which server we were in and almost accidentally sent a "What tags I think a Strahd fan fiction on Ao3 would have"

[knotty pasture]

Namely because I've waited for ages for more self DM ao3 fics on existing modules but all we got is like what, Descent Into Avernus?

A Curse of Strahd fic would be really cool

[severe rampart]

Sigh, I'll get writing

[limber trail]

Honestly everyone knows the strahd story, the idea of “what does it take for strahd to break his perceived loyalty and what happens when that happens” sounds like an awesome campaign pitch

[crystal latch]

The only fic with a "bears are fish" tag is my own so far

[knotty pasture]

Thanks I appreciate

[umbral girder]

Toxic Yaoi and Old Man Yaoi have to be there with him and Rahadin

[lyric viper]

I have seen some D&D fics that are hilarious but so many not appropriate for this server.

[limber trail]

Oh that’s just Kasecna

[lyric viper]

Aaaand were teetering towards that edge

[river vector]

someone I know is DMing a campaign where barovia has somehow crashed into faerun, and strahd became big Strahd and started 1984 government.

[crystal latch]

I have a fic about what would happen if Harry Potter was one of the best D&D 5e optimizers

[limber trail]

…want

[river vector]

Correction. Someone's DM that I know.

[umbral girder]

I can’t believe we got a Kas x Vecna Heated Rivalry post in #dnd-social-feeds

[knotty pasture]

A lot of stuff in ao3 seem to be original fiction with mild references to Faerun/dnd rules, I was enjoying self DM fics cuz it felt like reading a podcast on that front

[keen valve]

I actually like the idea of bear fish, is there an official statblock for that?

[crystal latch]

Polar bear, yes

[keen valve]

No...

[limber trail]

I’m sorry a what

[crystal latch]

Polar bears are fish

[blissful ibex]

Polar fish are bears

[knotty pasture]

Are fish polar bears?

[umbral girder]

People on the D&D team clearly are aware of Kas x Vecna

[craggy summit]

that just rebooted my brain 😭

[keen valve]

That seems more logical.

[river vector]

I guess Strahd just forgot || about Ireena ||

[limber trail]

I need this post urgently

[keen valve]

Dnd but it's just the polar arctic and 500 miles of ice and water. And 5000 fish bear.

[umbral girder]

Could probably scroll up on the channel. Not sure how long it’s been.

[crystal latch]

"Take 2d6 plot hole damage." [REDACTED] told them. "You're going to Eberron by means that shatter the worldbuilding of the Eberron setting."
In which they play Vecna: Eve of Ruin

[craggy summit]

That sounds like icewind dale actually 🤔

[blissful ibex]

#dnd-social-feeds message

[river vector]

I've heard Vecna eve of ruin is poorly written. I've read scathing posts on it.

[umbral girder]

It’s alright

[keen valve]

Too much interesting geography, not enough miles and miles and miles of ice and snow.

[craggy summit]

I'm running it right now, im actually a fan of it. The only thing though is that it feels like an anthropology(?) kinda adventure with a bunch of oneshots

[worn turtle]

Hi!

[crystal latch]

Eve of Ruin isn't a module, it's a guide to planning your campaigns that shows you an example of what not to do

[severe rampart]

WE DID?

[umbral girder]

Eve of Ruin isn’t the worst I’ve seen in 5e modules

[lyric viper]

On a sort of fanfic related note, I keep thinking about trying to play a Dragonlance game that plays with the fact the players know the plot and the story. Like a T.I.M.E stories type thing.

[umbral girder]

Imagine being players aware they are in Dragonlance, 1 year before the Cataclysm

[severe rampart]

Oh that's a campaign I'm playing in, better get out before any spoiler- WHAT

[umbral girder]

Imagine finding out you are in Cyre 1 week before the Mourning

[blissful ibex]

anthology

[umbral girder]

Now we getting spoilers appearing

[limber trail]

I really really actually wanna play a Vecna/Kas game set right in the midst of ||Vecna’s corruption and ascension, their friendship breaking, Kas becoming a vampire, all the good stuff.|| It’ll probably be my next campaign. (General spoilers for Vecna lore)

[crystal latch]

This is true

[lyric viper]

Raistlin must Live/Die!

[cursive fjord]

Hey guys, I cant remember if this is a topic we arnt suppose to talk about, the use of AI in dnd in general, can I ask this question without getting a warning strike?

[hot reef]

Yes, just no ai generated content

[river vector]

Artificial Garbage will never be used by me, personally.

[severe rampart]

Agreed!

[craggy summit]

Yes that's the word 😅

[umbral girder]

Like wise

[lyric viper]

We'd rather avoid it as it tends to derail into non-D&D but it's not forbidden just needs to be a bit more cautious and might be moved to #non-dnd-topics if it derails

[humble cairn]

Or survivors of the Cataclysm that have been sent back in time, Terminator style, to warn people of the impending doom.

[cursive fjord]

Thank you, see I enjoy using it as a TOOL but not a complete replacement.

[knotty pasture]

Everyone here is also anti AI in general for good reason so brace yourself for the responses you'll get

[river vector]

I feel DND is all about creativity. Why use plagarism machine?