dnd-discussion

[buoyant oar]

Is definitely the Evoker spell. But other than game mechanics it just doesn't make sense for a Diviner to learn "Explosion" the spell.

[still plover]

(Loved the plasma gun in Space Crusade. Corridor of grots? ZZZAP!)

[remote wadi]

Storm happened last night and lightning bolt struck near my house. Crap sounded much more horrifying and potent

[snow ledge]

Ahem...guardian blast... AHEM

[woven flint]

I'd have to disagree, personally.

[snow ledge]

Skachoooooooh...KADOOSHH

[knotty pasture]

Its still a spell fired in a straight line, only so much you can do vs a large circular aoe

[buoyant oar]

I am always open to other POVs on it. And I of course don't stop my players. But it's always felt like fireball sits in this Optimal/Meme path rather than a narrative one for most wizards. At least in my experience.

[leaden marlin]

Where can I ask for dungeon making help?
I am trying to use Dungeon Scrawl on my iPad, but it doesn’t want to zoom out.

[woven flint]

I don't think it has to be narratively reasoned WHY I, as a Diviner or Illusionist am taking fireball.
If it's not the main damage, it's probably the panic button.

[hot reef]

With a level 5 spell slot, fireball is 10d6

[snow ledge]

#dm-discussion or #dnd-maps

[leaden marlin]

Thank you

[woven flint]

Just because you specialize in certain spells doesn't mean you can't just.. learn other spells to broaden your kit.
Most wizards want to be prepared

They keep a whole spellbook for a reason

[snow ledge]

I have had a history of my most combat-thirsty players choosing only utility spells over damage

And then proceeding to use those very spells to deal damage as well when needed

In some way or another

[swift wren]

Chilli-Flakes and Gust is just the superior spell when it comes to effectivity

[halcyon bison]

Once I wall of fire-d a 15ft wide train cart :3
that was fun

[snow ledge]

Oh yeah, true

I forgot that fireball was lvl 3

[hot reef]

5e doesn’t really play to the archetype of strong caster focusing on a single thing

[halcyon bison]

Lightning bolt is severely underrated
Same damage as fireball and easier to avoid friendly fire

[snow ledge]

Sounds like...a blast 💥 🔥

[sleek cloud]

I wall of fired a clumped group of mummies, very satisfying.

[woven flint]

I, as an enchantment wizard am ONLY going to have enchantments despite knowing that there are creatures in my world that can potentially resist my magic through studying!

That wouldn't make sense.
As it wouldn't make sense for any wizard to not have an offensive spell

[buoyant oar]

It doesn't have to be narratively reasoned why I never said it had to be. My point is fireball specifically is one of those spells that most wizard players feel like they have to take. Even when doing so runs against the school they have chosen. Almost like it's a class feature and not a spell.

[woven flint]

I never took it on my wizard

He was a bladesinger

[snow ledge]

Lightning bolts sound wave is one of its main disadvantage I think

[buoyant oar]

It's not a bad thing perse. Just a thing I noticed in my experience.

[hot reef]

It’s less likely to hit allies and less resisted damage in exchange for less likely to catch enemies

[halcyon bison]

I would imagine an explosion of fire would be pretty loud too

[snow ledge]

Oh never mind, that is a different thunder-based spell I was thinking of

[woven flint]

You're thinking Thunderwave and Shatter.
Lightning bolt doesn't have sound associated with its text

[hot reef]

And needing to position yourself to maximize value oftentimes
Fireball you can cast from anywhere

[halcyon bison]

Honestly I prefer it to fireball
Fireball is probably better for an evocation wizard though

[snow ledge]

No, there is a thunder based spell that is like all creatures within 800 ft can hear it or smth

[buoyant oar]

If your spell has a verbal component and you don't have subtle spell. You are gonna be heard regardless of the spell effect

[snow ledge]

Yup, that

[hot reef]

I find hitting allies isn’t a big problem with fireball if you just communicate (unless enemies know there’s a fireball coming and try to position themselves to avoid it)

[halcyon bison]

Also with lightning bolt you can do the whole UNLIMITED POWERRRRR thing

[buoyant oar]

Communication in this Social TTRPG?

Absolutely not.

[woven flint]

Never!

[umbral girder]

Counterspell

[halcyon bison]

Any communication my allies can hear, my enemies can hear
Unless I have telepathic bond or something

[knotty vine]

whos the gojo of dnd

[sleek cloud]

Tokii

[woven flint]

Elminster

[buoyant oar]

Ever since I started enforcing Verbal components and not allowing non sorcerers to "Whisper" their spells.

Guidance has gone from always used to rarely used.

[halcyon bison]

I love subtle spell
I love less flashy magic in general to be honest

[snow ledge]

100x5 feet range for lightning bolt offers the capacity for up to roughly 20 small-medium creatures to be hit, maybe slightly more like 25-30 if cast diagonally and fireball has the capacity for roughly 64 small-medium creatures to be hit if I understand correctly

[knotty vine]

oh that guy

[severe rampart]

How'd guidance get less used?

[woven flint]

Not to say he's the most powerful ever
But he's probably the most powerful mortal being

[knotty vine]

most powerful mortal yeah

[halcyon bison]

Neither of those situations are particularly realistic or likely to happen

[snow ledge]

If we are thinking about a creature in every square in those spells range

[snow ledge]

Well, if you divide them up, fireball has better AOE capacity by ratio

[knotty vine]

through out hevaven and earth i alone am the honored one

[halcyon bison]

And in either scenario the other spell would be less effective

[snow ledge]

Fireball had roughly x3 better spacial utility

Than lightning bolt by space

[buoyant oar]

If you are trying to convince a noble and using Guidance on charisma checks. The noble and everyone in earshot just heard you cast a spell. Which would immediately effect their trust in you.

[snow ledge]

True

[halcyon bison]

I just think lightning bolt is cool
There’s shockingly few line spells that originate from the caster

[severe rampart]

Ahh, I see, I use guidance for things like investigation, not persuasion

[hot reef]

That one retired PC from the previous campaign

[snow ledge]

Fireball gets roughly 40% of the straight line of enemies though if the full range capacity on lightning bolt was met

[woven flint]

Well, now that I think about it, Elminster isn't a normal mortal
He's a 1280 year old human lmao

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but hear me out: Agannazar's Scorcher.

[buoyant oar]

When she was alive Elminster's lover Alassra Silverhand or better known as the Simbul, the Witch Queen of Aglarond was more powerful.

[severe rampart]

because enemies all line up when you want to cast lightning

[sleek cloud]

Elminsters elusion is a nice spell

[snow ledge]

Its pretty trash ngl

At low levels its nice

But it quickly loses to fireball

On the next level

[halcyon bison]

That’s a good lower level option
Also really shows the difference between level 2 and level 3 spells, 30ft long and 3d8 damage versus 100ft long and 8d6

[rugged hawk]

Only if you're using it wrong Gotta hit that Haste, then run back and forth to get enemies in it repeatedly

[snow ledge]

Nah, I was just calculating the capacity of the two. Using math show how the ranges overlap

[rugged hawk]

Sure, but if you're moving, you can catch enemies in the beam multiple times

[sand garnet]

all right ya'll - best/favorite magic items for a Barbarian?

[snow ledge]

I'm... not sure...that's how it works

[sleek cloud]

Vicious weapon

[rugged hawk]

I mean, that's how it's always worked in BG1 + 2

[snow ledge]

Its an instant attack

It doesn't last longer than your attack

[halcyon bison]

Huh? How??

[snow ledge]

Yeah, he is saying its how it works from BG1 +2.

[rugged hawk]

At least in BG1 + 2, it was a beam that lasted the duration of your round.

[glad arch]

BG ≠ dnd

Its close but not fully

[hot reef]

Last paladin5/barbarian 1 I played had a ring of protection
They didn’t go down at all against a CR15

[rugged hawk]

So you could cast it, then run around and catch enemies (and allies) in the beam repeatedly

[snow ledge]

But the rules say its duration is Instantaneous 30 feet line, so that would be like a burst of fire

[rugged hawk]

Sadness

[snow ledge]

Those games aren't turn-based either

[halcyon bison]

That’s silly

[snow ledge]

At least BG 1 isnt

[sleek cloud]

Bold move, no pally 6 for aura

[woven flint]

My last Barbarian was a Storm Herald Dwarf Barb that wielded a Flail of Tiamat

[hot reef]

Resistance to damage was more valuable for the tank build, and there was another level 6 paladin anyways

[cold jay]

Can you be an House Heir of one of the Ebberon Books WITHOUT having that particular dragonmark? (like via a custom background)

[woven flint]

I loved him
His name was Anvil and he had over 400 something HP lmao

[hot reef]

Lorewise, or mechanically?

[snow ledge]

Bro, all my players are farming gold to buy multiple bags of holding for you know why 😭 😭 😭

[woven flint]

Someone's gonna have to be forced into the Astral Plane of they wanna do that shtick.
Sucks for them if they die

[snow ledge]

First thing my artificer did start of the game was tell all the other PCs about the black hole side effect from combining pocket dimensions 😭 😭

[woven flint]

Let their folly get them killed 🧐

[hot reef]

That’s typically represented by the House Agent background

[snow ledge]

They are trying to have all the PCs have access to plane shifts so they can all just become astral bombers 😭

[woven flint]

Then throw Githyanki, Mindflayers and Astral Dreadnoughts at them 🤷‍♂️

[cold jay]

lorewise

[woven flint]

They're pretty screwed if they go to the Astral plane

[glad arch]

How?? Level 20 barbarian with 12 on every level, +5 con and tough feat has 380

[snow ledge]

Yeah, astral tarrasque scavenger ship should do it

[torpid hound]

How do you decide whether a monster uses Multiattack?

[woven flint]

I took the boon of Fortitide.

[glad arch]

Be the dm

[snow ledge]

Usually you just use it in combat

[torpid hound]

How does the DM decide whether a monster uses multiattack?

[woven flint]

He was also a Dwarf Barbarian with Tough and Max Constitution from being level 20

I think he had like.. 415?

[snow ledge]

If it makes the most sense to use multi attack from the pov of the monster

Over the other attacks

[torpid hound]

That's always

[severe rampart]

If multiattack is an option, almost always use it

[glad arch]

Usually multiattack is better then normal attacks, but a monster might have other actions that arent included in the multiattaci

[snow ledge]

If the monster doesn't have that level of intelligence to think strategy that way, then just make it random

Or have them have a favorite attack that they use more

[hot reef]

You could have a custom background and take a different origin feat I’m pretty sure. Although custom backgrounds are an “ask your DM” thing
The House Agent background is made for those affiliated with the house but without a dragonmark, but the proficiencies and tools are different than the dragonmarked heir backgrounds

[torpid hound]

I'd say Multiattack has a cooldown

[severe rampart]

could also make the monster take multiple turns in one round, ie, one attack, one spellcasting

[snow ledge]

You can homebrew it that way if you'd like

[glad arch]

Thats up to you if youre the dm, do note youll be lowering the effective cr of creaturea as theyre intended to use multiattack often

[hot reef]

Just like how a player decides whether their PC will use Extra Attack

[snow ledge]

Legendary actions?

[torpid hound]

1 turn cooldown

[snow ledge]

Yuperoo

[woven flint]

But some lower intelligence creatures can strategies
Example being: Wolves.
And a wolves Int .. is.. 3.

[torpid hound]

Wisdom

[snow ledge]

Still makes the monster less powerful than what they are evaluated as

[torpid hound]

0.5 turn cooldown

[snow ledge]

Yeah, well it obv depends on wis too

[snow ledge]

How do you even do half a turn cool down? 😆

[woven flint]

🤷‍♂️
I guess natural instinct could be wisdom.
Most animals have only like... a +1 to wisdom though
Wolves included

[glad arch]

Say a simple creature with only the bite attack or multiattack option that lets it take 2 bites. With a 1 turn cooldown you now have 3 bites per 2 turns instead of 4. Lowering its average dps by 25%

[torpid hound]

The cooldown activates every two multiattacks

[snow ledge]

Thats...not .5, but I see what you are saying

[torpid hound]

Yes it is, 0.5+0.5=1

[snow ledge]

You can't have an attack be on cool down for half of a turn. You said 0.5 turn cooldown.

[hot reef]

Cooldowns in 5e are typically represented with recharges, where the creature will roll a d6 at the start of their turn to see if they recharge the ability

[torpid hound]

It will be on a one turn cooldown every two uses

[torpid hound]

Oh

[woven flint]

^ and depending on how powerful the ability is recharge could be from 4-6 or whatever

[snow ledge]

I understand that, but that is not a 0.5 turn cooldown

[hot reef]

Although arguably it’s not great since it introduces a lot of variation

[snow ledge]

That is a 1 turn cooldown every 2 turns

[snow ledge]

There is a difference

[hot reef]

Yeah, typically 4-6, 5-6, or 6

[snow ledge]

Yeah, this is how most cooldowns are calculated

[torpid hound]

Is recharging a free action?

[snow ledge]

Its just a roll

But yeah

[hot reef]

It’s automatic, so you could call it that

[snow ledge]

I mean, I don't necessarily think most creatures can even control their cooldown tbf

Obviously some things may come to mind, but yeah

[glad arch]

They cant, it just happens

'The dragon doesnt quite have what it takes to send out another fire breath after the last one'

Or you decide it just kinda doesnt when mechanically it cant

[snow ledge]

Yeah

Fo sho

[rough basalt]

My imagination for it in characters its like a blockage

like how sometimes you get phlegm in your throat and need to clear it

[serene jolt]

There's a third party bard that at level 3, can use one bardic inspiration on two people in one turn.

Then level 6, when you take the attack or magic action, two creatures of my choice that has my bardic inspiration can expend it to use a reaction to attack with an unarmed strike or weapon, adding my bardic to their damage.

Then level 10, I get essentially a 30 feet BA aura that affects all creatures of my choice to add 1d4 to their ability checks or saves until the start of my next turn. And there are unlimited uses.

Does this sound strong?

I want to try it but I wanna make sure it sounds good. I don't play bards so I don't have anything to compare.

[meager fractal]

yeah it sounds really strong

[humble cairn]

One of the neatest homebrew mechanics I've seen is having that happen at the end of the monster's turn instead of the beginning, and having it be obvious, which gives the characters an IC reason to be prepared.

[serene jolt]

It's like a battle hymn/speech bard. Like a commander.

But if it sounds great then I'll def try it!

[rough basalt]

Given BI is a limited resource I could see it being worth trying and being open that it might be too strong

[meager fractal]

that's a cool idea

[rough basalt]

I gotta get stuff done for tonight but my fixation wants me to try and replicate the final boss arena from one of my favorite games in foundry

[quick flower]

If I want feedback on a map where should I go for that

[humble cairn]

#dnd-maps

[radiant night]

I'm genuinely so tired

[quick flower]

Thank youuu

[humble cairn]

Time for a Long Rest.

[cold jay]

I was thinking that maybe she was so good at her job that she was nominated as an heir despite not having a dragonmark

[radiant night]

My doctor was like "still drinking occasionally" and my dumb butt responded "I drank this morning" I forgot that alcohol was considered "drinking" because I'm sleep deprived

[sleek cloud]

The dragon does not concern himself with the opinions of the lion

[true brook]

is it possible to make custom weapons?

[glad arch]

To which extend? Do you want a normal weapon e.g. a katanna or a weapon that does extra stuff compared to normal weapons

[true brook]

I have a weapon that can switch itself into any physical damage type using up a turn.

[harsh hollow]

I assume the intent is a custom magic weapon.

[true brook]

it cant use magic unless enchanted temporarily

[glad arch]

Then thats homebrew and up to the dm

[harsh hollow]

I still think categorically that'd be a magic weapon by virtue of not being something a regular weapon could do.

[glad arch]

Just fyi 'a turn' generally isnt a resource as its comprised of action, bonus action, movement (ig reaction too)

[true brook]

true

[true brook]

well, let's say it takes an action

[harsh hollow]

(The main example of a weapon you can switch around like this already in the game is Pact of the Blade when it's making a weapon.)

[true brook]

oh cool

[glad arch]

Id say its a pretty weak feature so quite likely to get a dm's approval

Seeing as for free you could usually just grab another weapon of the type you want

[true brook]

my main reason for wanting to is to be on demon time with quick-switching

[harsh hollow]

Pact of the Blade can bind to an existing magic weapon but it can also generate a basic weapon to use with it.

But you have to use an action to switch.

[true brook]

I have a gif of the idea i wanna do for a strong skill

it's called furioso

[glad arch]

No gifs here im afraid

[true brook]

😢

[harsh hollow]

Gif spam here would get out of control quickly I think. x3

[glad arch]

Honestly you could probably convince your dm to let you switch as a bonus action, but any way you do it you gotta discuss with the dm

[true brook]

im thinking my special skill furioso will require me to be in a certain form that requires setup, but in return for the long setup time, i get one big attack full of bonus actions, and long cd after

the bonus actions will js be one hit mostly with one weapon in my roster

[glad arch]

Something like that falls a lot further out of the scope of any dnd class

[flint ledge]

That sounds familiar...

[true brook]

the concept of furioso came from a video game i like, in which-

[glad arch]

E33?

[true brook]

he knows.

[true brook]

library of ruina and limbus company

basically js a bombardment of attacks is the skill

[flint ledge]

Can't seem to escape the project moon fandom wherever I go

[true brook]

somebody, do you know rien? well im basically making rien in ryoshu's placement

[glad arch]

My bad thats virtuoso, but like i said the way youre describing it seems outside the scope of any dnd (sub)class afaik

[knotty vine]

i rolled a 6 6 8 12 14 14

someone help me

[glad arch]

Sacrifice! Sacrifice!

[knotty vine]

the dm doesnt allow for rerolls either 😭

[flint ledge]

I'm unfamiliar with the exact details on Limbus and library of ruina, only played some lobotomy corporation I'm afraid

[tidal dagger]

Why and who are we sacrificing

[knotty vine]

i got trash rolls

[glad arch]

Tasha's character

[knotty vine]

im gonna put a 6 in con and dex for funny

[true brook]

ohhhh, so rien is basically a bad guy, and is like, ryoshu's dad. ryoshu is an important deuteratagonist of limbus company and the protagonist of canto 9: the unsevering

[woven flint]

Sacrifice everyone

[knotty vine]

i have 8 ac and 6 hp

[glad arch]

At that point its hard to not be killed lol

[knotty vine]

i like the challenge!

[tidal dagger]

Don’t sneeze too hard

[knotty vine]

at least im semi smart

[flint ledge]

There is a homebrew Limbus inspired subclass that mentions furioso, not sure if it's exactly what you're gonna be looking for though

[remote wadi]

Have it be one or both of your adopted parents

Use them for character development

[true brook]

that most likely isnt like rien's replica of furioso, but the original attack used by the main character of library of ruina, roland

[worthy nebula]

Guys can someone help me plan out a beginner friendly campaign

[tidal dagger]

D’you guys mind if I go over a character concept with you, I’ve asked my dm but they haven’t responded

[sleek cloud]

Try in character discussion

[true brook]

also could you send me this?

[worthy nebula]

Ok thanks

[flint ledge]

Lemme see if I can find it

[tidal dagger]

K

[true brook]

thx yo

im planning to also make a spell created from my subclass as a sorcerer, which is basically ego (the shell of the mind)

[storm magnet]

Have you guys ever had a character idea you wanted to do but it felt too hard to pull off/RP?

[true brook]

yeah, shoot the idea

[storm magnet]

Well that’d be more in the #character-discussion channel, was just wondering if others had similar experiences

[true brook]

ohhh ok

[astral willow]

I'm curious about these "Seasons" WotC is starting. I've watched the interviews, but can anyone tell me the difference (if there is any) between Seasons of Horror, etc... and the themed releases of 2014 adventures.

Everything released with Curse of Strahd was all horror themed back in early 5e. How is the upcoming season different? Or is it just marketing? The interviews had the designers saying how unique and exciting it is, but I'm still confused.

Does anyone know?

[flint ledge]

Do you mind if I DM it to you?

[tender fossil]

It's not that uncommon in some companies. It's everything in a certain period of time will be themed. So everything will be horror for a little while, spell jammer for a little while, fantasy Serbia under Byzantine control for a while, etc

God I hope we get to that third one soon

[true brook]

no

man im lowk special

[astral willow]

I just can't imagine any other way of doing it. You would've thought with Vecna's release, they would've gone bigger with it. I'm sure behind the scenes drama had a lot to do with it, but this just seems like a no brainer. Personally I'd do much longer than just a quarter.

A full themed year makes way more sense to me.

[tender fossil]

The way they described it it sounds like they're doing the world of darkness year of method

Done right and you've got the entire company clicking on the same page. Done wrong and you're stuck with a bad idea for a year

[astral willow]

I'll have to look into that, i haven't heard of it.

[astral willow]

I think this is probably the problem right here. So many cooks in the kitchen for each product. You can really see the flaws in the recent releases.

[tender fossil]

There's not much to it, back in the '90s white wolf would declare the year of the hunter, the year of the beast, etc. then for the next year everything was focused on that theme. The year of the hunter releases was considered some of their best releases

Then they wrote themselves into a corner with the metaplot their game died. At least the popularity did. But we don't have a metaplot so we don't have to worry about that. At least I hope not

[sour cave]

Man, just noticed I don’t think I’ve played with a Druid in like forever

Myself or party members

[woven flint]

I rolled for Sanity and got a Nat 1 for a total of 0 😔

[umbral girder]

A fun fact Sanity is a stat in 2014

[severe rampart]

It is?

[rough basalt]

Ye one from an optional rule iirc

[serene jolt]

It was already approved by the Westmarch so I don't have any worries about it.

[flint ledge]

Speaking of new books do y'all reckon we'll be getting a new book like Mordekainen's/Volo's given we're in 5.5 and wotc has moved to a new monster design philosophy?

[sleek cloud]

Did you use your heroic inspiration you got for being human?

[uncut zenith]

At this point, nobody knows. WOTC’s D&D department is under new management

[sleek cloud]

Regained once per long rest of course

[umbral girder]

Yeah there were two optional stats in the 2014 DMG. Sanity and Honor

[woven flint]

Thats the thing..
I'm not a human

[uncut zenith]

I’ve always hated the Sanity rules in 2014. I’m way happier with the 2024 Fear mechanics.

[umbral girder]

Counterspell

Doing a reverse Bigby and Mordenkainen

[severe fox]

Mc ac is 8 and my hp is 6 I’m i cooked chat?

[burnt valley]

did you roll for stats or smth

[severe fox]

Yeah

[uncut zenith]

Are you starting at Level 1?

[severe fox]

2

My stats are 3 9 8 7 6 6

[burnt valley]

moment

[severe fox]

The dm doesn’t allow rerolls either

[harsh hinge]

You're worse than a commoner. That character may not be cut out for adventuring.

[severe fox]

A 20-30ft fall has a decent chance of killing me lmao

[uncut zenith]

No way in hell you rolled those dice correctly

[severe fox]

I rolled them on dnd beyond in front of everyone

[stable marten]

A stiff breeze could take you out

[uncut zenith]

Did you roll 4d6-lowest for each stat?

[flint ledge]

Ah I see

[idle oar]

?tag new abilities

[cosmic roost]

Abilities

All creatures have six abilities that measure physical and mental characteristics: Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma.

Each ability has a score from 1 to 20, which represents the magnitude of an ability. Each ability also has a modifier from -5 to +5, derived from its score. Add the modifier when you make a D20 Test with the corresponding ability or when a rule asks you to do so.

Determine your ability scores by using one of the following three methods. Your DM might prefer you to use a particular one.

• Standard Array. Use the following six scores for your abilities: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8.
• Random Generation. Roll four d6s and record the total of the highest three dice. Do this five more times, so you have six numbers.
• Point Cost. You have 27 points to spend on your ability scores. The cost of each score is shown on the Ability Score Point Costs table. For example, a score of 14 costs 7 of your 27 points.

After assigning your ability scores, adjust them according to your background. Finally, determine your ability modifiers using the Ability Scores and Modifiers table. Write the modifier next to each of your scores.

[severe fox]

Yeah

Low-key thinking about flying up and then falling

[flint ledge]

Yikes those are some low stats

[severe fox]

Just go splat

[flint ledge]

I mean you could go for some buffing or utility build

[pure sail]

Question if I’m level 5 is my hit dice 5d10? (As a fighter)

[severe fox]

I’m 3e wizard

[uncut zenith]

Ah 3E

[severe fox]

wizards used to have 1d4 hit dice

[uncut zenith]

Where everybody’s notoriously squishy

[severe fox]

Still very funny to me

2d6 can instantly kill me

If both dice are 6

[stable marten]

The sickly commoner has a side hustle as a wizard

[severe fox]

Basically me lmao

[flint ledge]

Ohhh... yikes....that's uhm... VERY rough

[umbral girder]

I’ve played characters who died back to back in 1 session.

5 characters with 1 HP at level 1 was very fun tho.

[craggy summit]

Was that in 5e? Or an older edition?

But a 1hp challenge does sound pretty fun actually

[inner silo]

How's shield expert if ignoring asi limits?

[severe fox]

It’s decent

[hot marlin]

Older.

[still plover]

-# "Did you hear something... meow?"

[hot marlin]

My memory reaches back even to the Elder Days. I have seen three ages of D&D of the world, and many defeats and many fruitless victories. I was a young player and marched with my party. I was at the battle of Waterdeep before the Black Gate of Baldur's Gate, where we had the mastery. For the spear of the fighter and the sword of the bard, none could withstand. I beheld the last combat on the slopes of Icewind Dale, where the fighter died and the bard fell, and the sword broke beneath him. But the BBEG was overthrown, and the wizard cut his head from his shoulders with the hill-shard of the bard's sword. But alas, the wizard took the head, as should not have been. It should have been cast into the fire nigh at hand where it was made. But few knew what the head did. After death, it exploded for 20d6 damage. The wizard had only a d4 hit die.

I was there, two decades ago, when the hit points of wizards failed.

If at least one of you could laugh at that joke I worked my ass off to make, it would make me feel like less of a nerd.

No, nothing? Nevermind, I'll go hide somewhere.

[still plover]

I loved it. Head of Vecna reference?

[hot marlin]

No, that was just straight up Elrond's recounting of the battle of Mount Doom from the Fellowship of the Ring.

With a few words changed

Yep. I'm a nerd. Damn it.

[atomic kayak]

checks server well. I would hope so

[thick void]

Choosing a feat is the most gut wrenching, agonizing decision in all of DnD. I'm playing a Skill Monkey Soulblade Rogue spy in a 5e Dungeon Crawl campaign at lvl 9 with Skilled and ASI chosen at 4 & 8.
Another ASI would boost my core skill responsibility.
Skulker is almost mandatory for a Dungeon Crawl.
Magic Initiate with Mage Hand, Prestiditation, and Find Familiar would give me much more creative problem solving options. Elvan Accuracy's Super Advantage is nice.
Tough would help my low Con score.
There's just too many good options.

[vital drift]

I think I will make a megadungeon. Themed around circles of hell where each layer will represent each circle.

It won't be a "descent to hell" or something but more like thematic

[viral kraken]

i can't stand to take asis if i can take a feat instead just personally

i love feats

[naive cedar]

You can die completely due to bad luck in the first 5 minutes of Baldurs Gate 1 if you pick wizard

[vital drift]

The idea came from just "I want to make a mega dungeon..." to "I want to make confusing mega dungeon!" then lastly "Screw it, it will be Fraud layer with others circles."

[snow zephyr]

3.5 would like a word

[naive cedar]

We’re all mad-I mean, nerds here

[plush ermine]

is it too much to reflavor mage armor as like a transformation? at least when i use it for warlocks thru armor of shadows i used it as a power ranger transformation for my hexblade and a biblically accurate angel sailor moon transformation for celestial. But before I knew it for all my warlocks i kinda set that precendent and they all do it, and now im working on a Scion of the Dead Three Rogue and am tempted to take magic initiate wizard for mage armor (cus technically at that stat and level its better then studded leather) and also so i can have a shifting transformation for each dead three god i pick. Like a skull mask for Myrkul, a chain veil for Bane and almost like an oni mask for Bhaal. Ngl tho i worry i might have reflavored a little too much lol

[potent vector]

It's completely fine, tame in comparison to a few of these reflavors I've seen (See: Eldritch Blast is a gun, or Shocking Grasp is a taser)

Very fun precedent lol

Heck I've seen Air Bubble be a plague mask . . .

[plush ermine]

ngl i was feeling like copying jjk and having a warlock who uses eldritch blast thru a pompador like ryu

i never played a rogue, so i should ask, im gonna have to be content with the low hp and low ac right? my brain is scrambling to find a way to have a decent ac but besides going into feats for armor or +3 light armor theres not much i can do. I keep seeing ppl refer to playing hit and run, but with low ac's and how scion of the dead three encourages melee combat, it makes me worry about how likely i am to be hit in close range.

[quick flower]

Where do I report odd behavior

[idle oar]

Come to #moderator-support and ask for a private thread

[iron herald]

Generally Rogue should start with okay-ish AC, around 15 with high dex and studded leather. Just keep increasing your dex and eventually you'll get some better armor as well.

Apart from that, rogues do tend to be much squishier than fighters; you're more of an opportunistic attacker, looking to duck in and out of combat.

[tender fossil]

You can also just play the skill monkey rather than try to be the best in combat. There's a reason why you take care of the orcs and I take care of the traps is a common rogue philosophy

[rough basalt]

Currently playing a rogue.
The lower hp ain't too bad.

[stuck shuttle]

The easiest solution is to play at range, but yeah you’ll be at low-ish AC until magic items come into play. If you do engage in melee, try to be targeting the same monster as another teammate, if only because your DM can have the monster target your friend sometimes 😅

[rough basalt]

It's sketchy when the most common effect in the adventure you're playing a rogue in is Max HP drain (I love the sketchiness)

That's for anybody tho

[potent vector]

Ranged Rogue = best Rogue moment. . .

Sadge

[iron herald]

It pays to know your allies' capabilities as well. If someone is playing a tough melee fighter, they might have the Sentinel feat which lets them discourage enemies from attacking you.

[mild lodge]

hi

oh

dead

[hollow estuary]

A lance is a substantially powerful melee weapon. With the measely cost of 10 gold, ought' but four percent a peasants annual payroll, you can get a heavy weapon with a 10 foot reach, and the topple property.

This is great for polearm master as one may imagine, as you can now knock enemies off their feet from 10 feet away as a reaction.

it also works for heavy weapon master!

[vivid bone]

My last session I used silvery barbs for the first time. It is already my favorite spell in the game and is the only reason our party is still alive.

No, minor illusion.

Silvery barbs is incredible too though

[hollow estuary]

Minor Illusion is quite a handy cantrip, beware of the barbarians though, a 5 foot box may not be big enough for their hulking yet heroic forms.

[undone rain]

I got a funny idea, playing as like a sentient suit of armor

[tidal bough]

I mean they do exist so it wouldnt be a stretch i suppose

[hollow estuary]

A warforged would do you wonders.

[undone rain]

Was just about to say

[timber turtle]

does drunk dnd work?

[undone rain]

Their like one of those suits of armor you keep in a castle for furniture and a random wizard turned em to life to fight for them but after the fight they were just left wandering

OHHHHHHHHH LORE TIME

[feral fulcrum]

Define "Drunk DND"?

[timber turtle]

everyones drunk

[feral fulcrum]

Don't really see the point of it

[vivid bone]

My party has two bards a Druid and me a wizard. We might all be able to fit in a 5 foot cube

[feral fulcrum]

Seems like everyone would just have a worse experience for a meme.

[tidal bough]

It does but most groups will generally have rules in place suggesting towards not showing up under the influence

[crystal rain]

Is banishment a free teleport to another plane for elves, tieflings, etc.?

[feral fulcrum]

No?

[undone rain]

Or i could play a reborn.

[feral fulcrum]

Tieflings don't come from the Hells or the Abyss generally, and the Majority of Elves are native to the Material Plane

[tidal bough]

Only if they are native to the plane

[crystal rain]

According to the 2024 spell text, if you are a creature with the characteristics "fey, aberration, celestial," etc., you will not return from the spell

[tidal bough]

Oo icic

[crystal rain]

It says nothing about them being native to the plane

"One creature that you can see within range must succeed on a Charisma saving throw or be transported to a harmless demiplane for the duration. While there, the target has the Incapacitated condition. When the spell ends, the target reappears in the space it left or in the nearest unoccupied space if that space is occupied.

If the target is an Aberration, a Celestial, an Elemental, a Fey, or a Fiend, the target doesn’t return if the spell lasts for 1 minute. The target is instead transported to a random location on a plane (GM’s choice) associated with its creature type."

[feral fulcrum]

And most Elves are Humanoid and not Fey typed, and Tieflings are also Humanoid and not Fiend

[mighty thunder]

Hi

[hollow estuary]

Ysgard, the Chaotic Good/Neutral outer plane is perfect for XP farming.

If you die you simply rise the next day. So just go there and get to level 20 by fighting things with no risk.

[feral fulcrum]

Sounds like an awfully boring experience.

[hollow estuary]

Charging into a battle with a dragon with none of the horrors of war and only the glory of it is anything but!

[crystal rain]

Okay, so this is more of a take advantage in the rules than anything else, and no GM would use it this way, but I found it funny

[hollow estuary]

It's pretty much a plane of people who had so much fun infinitely killing eachother that they forgot to go home

[feral fulcrum]

Endless Meanigless COmbat purely for EXP's sake, does not, in my opinion, make an interesting game.

[crystal rain]

Seriously? Wow, I thought they were humanoid and another characteristic

[feral fulcrum]

5E doesn't do multi Creature-types

[wispy vector]

(5e2014)
Would it be worthwhile for a cleric to dip 1 level into Lunar Sorcerer to be able to hit 2 targets with Sacred Flame?

[crystal rain]

Oh

[feral fulcrum]

Maybe if it's early levels and you don't mind missing out on your Capstone feature?

[hot marlin]

Sadly this doesn't work. You gain XP not for killing creatures but for beating obstacles. Otherwise you could also eventually reach level 20 by working in a slaughterhouse and killing cows

[feral fulcrum]

But Cantrips fall off pretty hard, Sacred Flame Especially

Saving Cantrips generally suck quite a bit at higher levels as things start having decent bonuses to saving throws.

[wispy vector]

The lv 20 feature is literally useless in 95% of your Divine Intervention roles, so that's a fair bargain

[crystal rain]

Actually, it's bizarre that all these years of the system and we still don't have any plant playable specie

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah WOTC still hasn't figured out how to make most Capstones decent... 🙁

[wispy vector]

I mean barbarian is fantastic

[scenic zinc]

Huh.

Level 20 cleric feature is amazing

Not as good as it used to be, but still

[feral fulcrum]

I mean, they're not really a thing in D&D outside of Awakened Plants, Treeants, and Dryads. So it's not that surprising. It even took them like 9 years to add more then a singular Fey creature (Looking at you, Centaurs.)

[hollow estuary]

DMG. Chapter Two, Running the Game. Section: Character advancement

Each monster has an XP value based on its Challenge Rating. When adventurers overcome one or more monsters—typically by killing, routing, capturing, or cleverly avoiding them—they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves. If the party received substantial assistance from one or more NPCs, count those NPCs as party members when dividing up the XP, since the NPCs made the challenge easier. (See also “Nonplayer Characters” in chapter 3.)

[wispy vector]

Compared to lv 19, you have a 100% chance instead of a 95% chance that Divine Intervention succeeds.
That's pathetic.

[scenic zinc]

Yes.

Challenge rating. Challenge being the operative word.

[hot marlin]

There is no challenge in killing cows in a slaughterhouse, nor in fighting for fun and no other purposes in Ysgard.

[hollow estuary]

Correct! challenge being the operative word. In the sense that It should be little challenge for four players of this level to beat it.

[crystal rain]

Yeah, but it would be cool if they created a specie descended from dryads, or that came from a tree that magically bore living fruit, something like that

[wispy vector]

If you wanna play a plant I can recommend Starbound.
Completely different game but the only one I can think of.

[noble pine]

Need a side quest for level 2

[wispy vector]

Kill god

[tiny moth]

Hi I am just trying to find a DND campaign that is 15+

[scenic zinc]

No dm in their right mind would ever construct such an encounter, so it's silly to bring up this kind of whiterooming

[crystal rain]

resolve the central war conflict of your world.

[flint ledge]

#find-a-game would be the place

[scenic zinc]

Huh? At level 19 you have a 19% chance, not a 95% chance

It's a d100 roll not a d20

[hollow estuary]

I know that it wouldn't be a good story based but it's a pretty safe way to get strong.

[crystal rain]

I'm a fan of creating quests for low-level players that open up future paths. I'd do something involving a kingdom or important people from your world on a small scale, or one of the main paths they can choose. Besides familiarizing the characters with the world, it also familiarizes the player with the story, I don't know

[hot marlin]

But that's the thing. If you go to Ysgard to farm XP, you overcame nothing.

[hollow estuary]

If it takes ya 50 attempts to beat something you still beat it.

[hot marlin]

You misunderstand.

[hollow estuary]

Going to a dojo to train makes you stronger

[hot marlin]

Take the quote of the DMG you linked.

[cobalt hearth]

Hi I'm new here, where do I look for games?

[scenic zinc]

#find-a-game

[hollow estuary]

Yes I saw my quote

[hot marlin]

"When adventurers** overcome** one or more monsters" is the key here. It doesn't matter if you succeed at beating every single being in Ysgard a million time. You did not overcome any of them, even if you killed them all at the same time a billion times.

[feral fulcrum]

I really liked what Pathfinder 2E did in Tian Xia for Leshy's (Magic Plant People typically shaped like plants that grew arms and legs), Where Tian Xia got special Leshy Variants based on Peach Children or whatever they're properly called, that just look like human children with a faint pink tinge to their skin, and possibly some peach leaves.

[scenic zinc]

Which makes it a thing that isn't ever going to happen.

[hollow estuary]

You totally did! In the event of someone actually doing that they just genocided a entire plane in a single day.

Cause everyone respawns the next one

[crystal rain]

the goat mentioned

[hollow estuary]

Like imagine having the flex to go to a plane of warriors and pride and saying "I killed every single one in a day."

[hot marlin]

That is still not overcoming. Because nothing was accomplished. You did not prevail against anything, because you had no goal. You did not win or prevail in any form of battle or contest, because Ysgard is nothing more than a game with no risk.

[hollow estuary]

Oath of glory paladin

The entire point of his guard is constant glorious Battle of war

By being an oath of glory paladin, you simply fulfill your oath by battling And coming out victorious

[scenic zinc]

There's no glory if there is no risk

[hollow estuary]

The planner definition of ysgard is it represents the glory of war in none of the horrors of it

[hot marlin]

There is no risk. There is no victory in Ysgard

In Ysgard there are no victories and no defeats

This is a zero XP place. Same as working in the slaughterhouse

Unless you're actually trying to achieve something concrete and meaningful.

[wispy vector]

All of existence returns to the void one day.
So in the grand, total scheme of things, no achievement will ever be of meaning or value.

So just let him have fun duking it out :P

[hollow estuary]

Yeah I guess your right on that

Okay so effectively the way to do it would be go there. Kill as many things as you can and leave

If you die there's no risk but if you stay there for the full day you know you don't get anything

Though if your DM grants you planar travel tools of this capacity then they honestly deserve this 😂

[wispy vector]

Might as well trap you in the infinite ikea, lol.

Until one of you learns astral teleportation or something

[hollow estuary]

I was going to say traveling planes ain't something you can just do at level one

These are like level 8+ strats

[crimson gulch]

Depends If you start in sigil or phandever

If your allready in sigil, you never know

[hot marlin]

You can get someone else to cast a plane shift. You can find portals.

Even at level 1, travelling the planes is not impossible

[hollow estuary]

Right. By the time you like farm the money for that you will either be level 4 or dead.

That's a level 7 spell

[cobalt hearth]

How common are these "paid art" scammers in this server?

[hollow estuary]

And then we have the issue of leaving

[inner silo]

What small races are the best for mounted combat?

[hot marlin]

A level 7 spell that doesn't require any money though

[feral fulcrum]

As in wanting you to pay for art before 'joining' a game? Fairly common

[crimson gulch]

So common

[feral fulcrum]

There was like 5 last month IIRC

[wispy vector]

Uncommon would be a fitting rarity because they're just not common enough 🤔

[cobalt hearth]

I just joined and I already ran into three

[feral fulcrum]

Big Public servers always atract scammers, trolls, and weirdos you should never give info to. It's just a Hazard of existing on the internet.

[inner silo]

What small races are the best for mounted combat?

[feral fulcrum]

ANy of them work just fine.

[hot marlin]

Species really has no impact on that

[crimson gulch]

Small races are terrible for that, you need horses

[cobalt hearth]

Well it's incredibly annoying because I can't even find a legit game

[hollow estuary]

Character artists are lowkey inferior to heroforge

[feral fulcrum]

You can function with a big dog.

[tiny moth]

@flint ledge I tried but there all full

[inner silo]

I plan to use beast masters beast of the land

[cobalt hearth]

Oh boy, what the hell is that?

[hollow estuary]

It's like a baby level easy way to make 3d models for characters

I learned it in 20 minutes

[feral fulcrum]

Distinctly incorrect. But you do you.

[cobalt hearth]

I will take that into consideration...

[inner silo]

It's medium size so I'd need a small creaturr

[feral fulcrum]

Heroforge is quite limited, and fairly ugly in my opinion. And the only unique thing about it is 3d printable models.

[potent vector]

I vote Plasmoids, because being Venom style horse as a head canon is funny.

[fair plinth]

I was thinking today and i realized that i used to love martial classes because they were easy to understand and magic users were not, but now that ive played a lot of magic classes i dont want to play martials anymore because they are too simple compared to spellcasters
Funny how that feels

[inner silo]

Sounds pretty interesting

[cobalt hearth]

Well here's the thing, I don't care about how my avatar look, I just wanna play the game

[feral fulcrum]

Then don't worry about charecter art?

[hollow estuary]

switch to heroic features and muscular frame and increase size and you will get something decent

then you can use gem and fire colors for glow and effects

[feral fulcrum]

Or I could pay an artist to make something I find more visually appealing and not limited to premade model bits. :V

[swift silo]

Is it just me or do way to many spells use concentration

[inner silo]

Isn't character art like 100$?

[feral fulcrum]

Depends on the artist.

[south prawn]

I think it’s fine for balancing

[hollow estuary]

Yeah most character artists charge more then the player's handbook physical edition

[inner silo]

Crazy

[crimson gulch]

An artist worth paying for will charge that much for sure

[formal seal]

I’m going to tweeaakk out. Two players just randomly ghosted and left our online campaign before even our second session started.

[feral fulcrum]

It's generally a Job, and not exactly effortless. :V

[formal seal]

😭

[swift silo]

I’m trying to figure out how to build my paladin and basically everything is concentration

[inner silo]

Ik, it's probably a good price for art

[wispy vector]

Smite isn't :)
(In 5e2024 at least)

[woven flint]

That's agonizing, I'm sorry, friend :<

[south prawn]

That’s not necessarily a bad thing and managing to hold concentration for a long time on some things can be powerful

[stray sage]

what is a better debuff spell, bane or faerie fire?

[feral fulcrum]

Conentrate on spells that support what you're trying to do, and conserve spell slots for things that don't require concentration.

[south prawn]

Allowing 2 or more of some spells would be insane

[inner silo]

Fire

[feral fulcrum]

Faerie Fire's not a Debuff really.

[wispy vector]

Faerie Fire imo.
Also it's more funny.

[inner silo]

A buff?

[woven flint]

Faerie Fires a buff for your party, in a sense.. being easier to hit doesn't really inhibit enemies much

[inner silo]

Probably makes more sense

[south prawn]

+1 for Faerie Fire

[feral fulcrum]

The only actual 'Debuff' part of FF is shutting off Invisibility, which most of the time it's not even doing. It's really more like a buff for the party.

[small heath]

Chat. There's a nerd/comic store in my local mall and they're selling a D&D pinball machine for $800. Is it worth the investment?

[feral fulcrum]

Depends on how much you like Pinball :V

[hollow estuary]

" Investment "

[inner silo]

Since faery fire is a buff that's used on enemies, i wander if there's a debuff used on allies

[cerulean monolith]

I don’t think any of us can answer that question for you

[small heath]

Like, I can lowkey afford it for the meme potential, idk if it's worth it realistically

[cerulean monolith]

Sure there is. Invisibility. Gives Disadvantage on attack rolls against the target

[crimson gulch]

Yes, I wish I started buying pinball machines as a kid, they have gone way up since then

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah don't blow 800$ for something you consider mostly just a meme :V

Be a responsible adult, especially in this godawful economy.

[inner silo]

Yo

[small heath]

I have a friend that hosts a D&D facebook group IRL session every week so maybe I might help him out with the decoration of their meetup spot. Give him something to add into the game room.

See if he can partial pitch in.

[tribal notch]

Yo

[cerulean monolith]

A pinball machine is a very expensive decoration, and also is more of a distraction than a deco

[rugged hawk]

What was that? I'm having an awfully hard time hearing you over my $900 Nintendo purchases in the last two months

[tribal notch]

Approved

[crimson gulch]

I need to renovate my home dnd studio

[cobalt hearth]

Make it four scammers

Another one massaged me

[rugged hawk]

Massaged you?

[cobalt hearth]

Yeah

[woven flint]

You mean messaged?

[cobalt hearth]

The "our campaign have it's own artist" type

[sleek cloud]

I hate it when randoms just give me massages

I want my muscles tensed up and prepared to strain at any given moment

[woven flint]

I'm massaging you next

[fossil hollow]

So, what did i miss

[jolly agate]

Helloooo

[rugged hawk]

Geez, normally I have to pay for massages. Where can I get this free muscle treatment?

[sleek cloud]

Intimidation check with advantage

[woven flint]

Natural 20 for a 40 in total

[sleek cloud]

fear

[fossil hollow]

Damn, nat40?

[woven flint]

I'm not scary, I'm just a freakster and that's where I get my Intimidation

[sleek cloud]

Mr lord of goofy, if ya nasty

[woven flint]

Yur

[crimson gulch]

Natural 40!!!!

[wispy vector]

If someone randomly sends you a friend request without writing anything, just check if they ever wrote anything on the server you're sharing with them. If they also have a random girl/woman as their pfp they're pretty much guaranteed to be scammers.

[fossil hollow]

Dammit TOkii, you summone him! Now the CoS party is going to die!

[woven flint]

Grant me this wish Urizt...
If Ti-Moth is in any of your games.. kill him again!

[fossil hollow]

Im going to be a level 1 bard or paladin soon. Youre going to get your wish

[wispy vector]

What kind of bard, perhaps Valor or Swords?

[fossil hollow]

Highly leaning towards Dance or Valor

[unborn haven]

Anyone have any advice for writing applications to these online game listings? It feels like I do everything right in terms of conveying my personality, playstyle and character concept (when asked) but keep missing out

[shy stirrup]

Plenty of player listings leave the "additional info" space blank, assuming you don't and you make a good pitch for yourself, all you can do beyond that is keep trying and be patient

[unborn haven]

Yeah, posting in #looking-for-dm is a total crapshoot. I’m talking about reaching out to DMs who post on #looking-for-players

[shy stirrup]

Without specifics, can only speak in generalities, could be any number of reasons why you get no reply, or you do, but it doesn't result in a spot

[unborn haven]

yeah

[fossil hollow]

depends entirely on the scenaroi

[umbral girder]

Depends what you get out of the smite and the enemy’s saves/weaknesses and resistances

[wispy vector]

Smite for the most part. Having the defender dodge and be unkillable is nice imo

[uncut zenith]

But if you’re gonna play a Battle Smith and not use your Steel Defender, why play a Battle Smith?

[umbral girder]

Int weapons my guess

[uncut zenith]

Smite is a good backup, but imo a Battle Smith should prioritize using their Steel Defender first

[somber crescent]

Personally love the steel defender for added rp

[wispy vector]

My 5e2014 Battlesmith is a kobold biker with sunglasses, leather jacket and a modified hand Crossbow. (The steel defender is a motorcycle)

[serene jolt]

If you're able to third party, try the Exploring Eberron Forge Adept. It might be what you're looking for in this subclass.

[uncut zenith]

Play an Artillerist then imo

[serene jolt]

It's essentially a battlesmith without the steel defender and with a bada-- martial or simple weapon you can buff and has special abilities.

[uncut zenith]

Also worth noting that if you’re looking for help regarding building a character, we do have the #character-discussion channel

[karmic heath]

Sounds good

[gleaming pilot]

#find-a-game

[final turtle]

Hello to all

[karmic heath]

[woven flint]

I don't think you have to censor badass lol

[serene jolt]

Well I got muted by the bot for less interesting words lol

[uncut zenith]

If you’re questioning whether it’s okay or not, there’s probably a better and more appropriate word to use lol

[jolly agate]

Beans

[river vector]

I have a guy who plays a few side NPCS that help the party, and now I have a great situation coming up. He will play my vampire BBEG's ex, and I will be playing the vampire BBEG in disguise, travelling with the party. He knows who it is, but will not bring it up, on purpose. Should be a humourful exchange.

[meager fractal]

so apparently having chatgpt draw you a single piece of art for your D&D campaign takes the same amount of energy as running your microwave for an hour. Crazy.

[fossil hollow]

thats why AI sucks

[meager fractal]

yep

[uncut parrot]

Hey I have a question how can I put something on the searching for a dm thing? I got my hands on a lotm tabletop rulebook and need to find a dm so that we can gather a group and play

[umbral girder]

#find-a-game explains it!

[uncut parrot]

Thanks twin

[serene jolt]

2024 bard, should I get True Strike or Vicious Mockery for my damage Cantrip?

[south prawn]

And generally it’s terrible and you re-prompt a handful of times. And then it’s still terrible and you don’t even use it

[cursive ledge]

are there any fictional stories written in the DnD world?

[south prawn]

The book count is probably in the millions

*exaggerating

[cursive ledge]

no I mean like, how Skyrim got all those books in the game; stories considered fictional within the world itself

[south prawn]

I’ve seen a few tables for generating book titles and things like that, but not familiar with any “official” in game stories in that regard. Really a DM could take any real world story and just put it in the game.

D&D is made up many worlds, infinite. So that’s not easily answered

[cursive ledge]

fair enough, ik the DM can always make their own and that’s probably how the table will go, just thought it’d be neat if there were already some existing ones in-universe

[echo meteor]

could you argue that insight counters persuasion because insight also counters intimidation/deception (charisma checks)

[uncut parrot]

It would be weird it had no weakness

[echo meteor]

intimidation is a person is trying to act threatening, and you use insight to read him…

deception is a person is trying to deceive so you use insight to read the person to see if he is lying

[knotty pasture]

Intimidation and deception are more negative though, and involve acting and hiding the truth

Persuasion is just logically convincing someone to a certain outcome and doesn't necessarily have a negative side to it that would require insight to counter

[echo meteor]

but what you are trying to convince may not be the “truth” just a different framing.

[knotty pasture]

Wouldn't that fall into deception then

[south prawn]

I would call that deception

[echo meteor]

glass is half full vs half empty, both are correct

or, the value of an item

[knotty pasture]

But since dnd does divide persuasion into persuasion/deception/intimidation we should assume that persuasion means no deception/intimidation in this context

[south prawn]

No

In the PHB persuasion is “Honestly and graciously convince someone of something.”

[echo meteor]

an item could me worth could be 900 to me but 1100 to you

[south prawn]

You can’t reframe it as deception

They are explicitly different

[knotty pasture]

Great point, yeah insight has no way of countering persuasion then cuz its not malicious

Otherwise insight as a check would be really sensitive because we'd be rolling insight nonstop on anything that isn't a 100% yes or no

[echo meteor]

then what counters it? what do you use when someone tries to haggle with u?

[knotty pasture]

Nothing really counters it I would say

[snow zephyr]

Insight is good for determining what the intent behind the perception is, gleaning what the benefits of your agreement would be

[echo meteor]

and whether or not you are convinced

[blissful ibex]

it would perhaps help you glean some of their motivation and what it is they're trying to get you to do

[knotty pasture]

Wouldn't the DM decide this

[echo meteor]

sure, and how would the dm dm decide what score to use

[south prawn]

There’s an art to setting DCs as a DM. There’s no direct mechanic other than the DM evaluating the situation, relationship, and any and all variables, and then determining the DC based on that

[snow zephyr]

Insight boils down to "Why?"

[knotty pasture]

Haggling could be me convincing you to give me this legendary sword for free, if insight counters it, it implies that I can actually convince you if your insight is low enough

[echo meteor]

its reading other people isn’t it? or does it cover some philosophical thing

[knotty pasture]

Personal preference, I don't think there's a set formula -- Its like how do you determine the exact score of sleight of hand when lockpicking

[south prawn]

Insight doesn’t really determine whether you can be persuaded or not though. It’s a skill to help you read others intentions.

[snow zephyr]

It's reading other people for things like motives or times when they betray a purpose or secret

[echo meteor]

there’s a “floor” which would be the value of the thing to the merchant… or their “knowledge” of the market

[knotty pasture]

Wouldn't that fall under intelligence checks

[south prawn]

Wisdom

[knotty pasture]

Or wisdom sure

[south prawn]

@echo meteor Just use a general Wisdom check here if you really need something

[echo meteor]

knowlege of the market is intelligence

[snow zephyr]

Not really, that's a different application of persuasion (and one that's likely to fail)

[knotty pasture]

As it should lol my point was that persuasion doesn't have an actual counter to it

Because otherwise we'd step into the discourse of "can you actually do everything you want if you roll persuasion"

[echo meteor]

i guess i’ll just set difficulty to a generic dc15-20 with no care for stats when ppl are tring to haggle

[snow zephyr]

Insight is the closest, followed by intelligence

[south prawn]

Intelligence is reasoning and memory

Wisdom is perceptiveness and mental fortitude

Just pick whichever you like, half the DMs mix and match anyways it seems

[snow zephyr]

Knowing why someone is trying to convince you is something that can immediately nullify their best attempts

[south prawn]

You have DCs 5-30 to work with

[echo meteor]

that could be insight. like you know why someone wants this item

[south prawn]

Evaluate every situation on the fly and you’ll never go wrong

[knotty pasture]

It is dnd after all, I don't think a stat has to always counter another stat, or have fixed scores over checks

[echo meteor]

so you can charge them more

if you know someone REALLY wants the item, you can charge them more for the item

[snow zephyr]

Not to mention that if you want this sword bad enough to ask me to give it to you because you lack the funds then I can likely just name a price and you'll come back with the gold

[echo meteor]

you know what.. i think that’s a good baseline for using insight vs persuasion in haggling. the merchant is trying to measure how much you want the item

to see if they can gauge you for more money

[snow zephyr]

Desperation is a sign of vulnerability that will 100% get you in an unfavorable negotiation standing

[echo meteor]

yep, insight

[south prawn]

Having the merchant make an insight check completely make sense. But then it’s also the merchant making the persuasion roll to charge a higher price, so not a contest in that scenario

[snow zephyr]

Persuasion or deception

[south prawn]

Right either one

Improvise these decisions on the fly

[snow zephyr]

Though deception should only be used if the player calls for their own insight check

[south prawn]

Based on all variables and current situation

To be fair the, markets fluctuate and values are based on what you can get

[echo meteor]

they don’t need to persuade, they can.. but they can just as well tell the person to come back if you have more money

[south prawn]

So if you can get more is it always being deceptive? Unknown

[snow zephyr]

Depends

[south prawn]

Agreed. Too many variables

[echo meteor]

merchants won’t bend over backwards to people that don’t have money either

[snow zephyr]

Persuasion also isn't charm magic

[echo meteor]

but insight vs persuasion for haggling is good

[south prawn]

Also insight isn’t mind reading

[snow zephyr]

You get a feeling, not you know for a fact

[echo meteor]

it isn’t, but its reading intent. body language

someone stares at an item a little too long

or grasps the item tightly

etc, or how well can people put on a poker face?

if they say they do a poker face, that would be deception

but any rainbow of arguments can exist i guess

but i would use persuasion vs insight as a baseline and challenge the players why they want to use a different score

and let them if it’s convincing enough

[stark belfry]

Hi all

[echo meteor]

but… figuring out how much someone wants the thing is trading/haggling 101

so it checks out

i guess the players can try to use insight to try to read how much low they think they can get the merchant to set its price… and then try to persuade the merchant. and merchant will try to measure how much players actually want the item and counter the persuasion with insight

like haggling in pawnstars

on the flip side, you can probably ask the dm if you can use “insight” to measure the npc’s reaction to try to determine how close, far, higher or lower you think you can get the price to be. like when trying to negotiate the reward for a quest

you probably can’t get an exact number… as it’s not mind reading but you can get an idea

on a success, you can even narrate “you see a merchants eye twitch at the offer, it seems you won’t be able to go any lower” or “the merchant seems relaxed, it seems like you can go lower”

this might be a #dm-discussion actually

[spring light]

My character: in a cooking contest.
My character: can't cook, but does have wondrous pigments.
My character: draws a Gordon Ramsey construct to help her with the contest.

what could go wrong?

[fair summit]

The construct simply keeps creatively insulting your food

[south prawn]

It doesn’t cook but instead just yells at you about your terrible skills

[fast latch]

Making a BBEG

How would you pronounce the name Gnobil?

[south prawn]

No-bill or no-bull

[spring light]

i hope this is what happens.

[spring light]

nob-uhl

[wispy vector]

Knob-ble

[spring light]

omg, it's Noble

[meager fractal]

Question for you

Is guiding bolt a good spell?

[frail wasp]

ye

[knotty pasture]

Its alright but faces stiff competition with spells of the same slot

[rugged hawk]

Shadowheart seems to think so, despite all evidence.

[spring light]

it's a just fine spell.

[fast latch]

My Cleric PC used to spam it, it was pretty good when he used it

[rugged hawk]

Tell that to Shadowheart missing every 95% hit chance with it

[knotty pasture]

See this is why Shart should stick to Bless duties

[fast latch]

Shart is such an unfortunate name

[knotty pasture]

I was checking out Trickery again and despite being subject to Larianbrew, its actually really legit

[rugged hawk]

I mean it fits perfectly whenever her Guiding Bolt misses (always), we can thus say she done Sharted

[fast latch]

HAHAHH

[hybrid girder]

Man I wanna play a Wizard

[fast latch]

My first character ever was a Fighter/Wizard

[spring light]

then play a wizard!

[hybrid girder]

I can't find a game

[idle oar]

#looking-for-players and #looking-for-community have lots of games

[hybrid girder]

I found one but they didn't allow spellcasters

[spring light]

check #find-a-game and sites like roll20.
Check your local cafes, bookstores, libraries, local game/hobby stores, school/uni clubs (as well as other students and faculty), and could even take a crack at boards in music stores.

[spring light]

then not the right table for a wizard.

[small geyser]

Hi, goodnight everyone. But, I wanted to ask, in how often players take time to make spells scrolls in DnD 2024. For me I love the concept, but often actually happens in DnD games?

[fossil hollow]

Depends if your group uses downtime. I try to make sure my players get some

[hot marlin]

I had over the years forgotten how nice it can be to play a wizard at low levels.

Damn, it's fun. So many tools

[signal ore]

Currently building my own ttrpg based off fear and hunger: how would yall personally handle dismemberment?

[hushed mason]

There are no called shots in D&D. 🙂

[hot marlin]

#non-dnd-topics

[fossil hollow]

#non-dnd-topics for other TT- dammit

[hybrid girder]

OOO I would love to playtest/help!

[signal ore]

It's a d&d adjacent; basically an addon, hopefully if I can get it to work

[fossil hollow]

Making your own TTRPG doesnt sound like an addon

[hot marlin]

If it is your own TTRPG that is not D&D, then it's not D&D.

[signal ore]

If you'd like I can send you what I have so far, not particularly good but yeah :>

[naive cedar]

I’m starting to come around on sorcerer tbh

[fossil hollow]

If it is still based off DnD 5e, #homebrew

[south prawn]

Then #homebrew?

[hybrid girder]

Sure!

[signal ore]

I didn't know we were super strict about it my bad

[south prawn]

Hang around, Mods are watching. Community helps out

[fossil hollow]

Id rather not clutter up the chats either

[south prawn]

Also more helpful for you because better chance you’ll connect with the right people

[signal ore]

I see

I apologize everyone

[rough basalt]

Wednesday campaign session 1 complete

They found out the most important secret of the desert

The more Unclothed an individual is, the more dangerous they are.

[fair summit]

Don't tell this to the bard

[snow zephyr]

The what

[snow zephyr]

5e has a table for system shock that's kinda mid

[snow zephyr]

It's nice because you have to play into strategy more than at higher levels where you have excellent synergy

[umbral girder]

That why my Barbarian only wears a skirt

He knows the secrets of the Desert.

[craggy summit]

besides, you want the enemies to see your muscles so they know you ain't messing around

[umbral girder]

Amusingly the art I use (from Tasha's) doesn't look all that muscular.

Wild Magic Barbarian so likely magic is doing some shenanigans.

[echo meteor]

i don’t think passive intimidation does anything

[craggy summit]

It will now 😈

[umbral girder]

Guys I just learned of the best forgotten realms character.

His name is Hew Mann.

It's 3 Kobolds in a trench coat

[wide tusk]

Sorry for blowing up chat today. New DM here. Has anyone ran Unwelcomed Spirits? I wasn't sure about this at first. And I'm 3 sessions in (day 4 of campaign and just long rested outside of the Fort). I hadn't been using fog of war on the brokenveil marsh hex map. But now I'm thinking I should've.

I'll probably keep it the way I have been.. but for future adventures. Would it be best / most appropriate to use fog of war in scenarios where the PCs have to adventure? Like through a cave, through the marshes, etc?

Or how do you use vision, fog of war, etc. To enhance suspense and strategic gameplay / interaction?

[umbral girder]

Never heard of it

[severe rampart]

Which VTT do you use?

[wide tusk]

I'm using AboveVTT

[severe rampart]

Ah, then no idea how to use that, I usually use fog for areas like dungeons though, not for every map

With limited vision you can really add suspense to dungeons, even adding locked doors, etc.

[wide tusk]

But practically speaking, probably just using it for limited vision scenarios?

[empty thicket]

i introduce you a new concept of character, A skeleton made of bones of many persons.
The legs are one
Chest and arms another
And finally head is the last one.
Sometimes the leg will run away while the arms swing
The head will look in one direction while the arms do something else and finally if there is a tantrum they are going to split

[blissful ibex]

make it a warforged with a bone frame

[empty thicket]

its one im thinking to do, an undead warlock hexblade that is just an entity playing with a body for a fun time and act like he is an adventurer.

The funniest part is, i can act like i am the entity itself for the whole context of the character and would fit in so many ways and be so funny

[knotty pasture]

For a second there I thought you meant taking two subclasses at once

[vapid scroll]

How about saying this when casting Danse Macabre: You know what they say, the morgue the merrier!

[empty thicket]

na, too much troubles ngl and i wont do such things yet

oh wait, subclasses, i thought multiclass.
Even less honestly

[sturdy tusk]

I was thinking about smthng Similar
A Plasmoid in the Body of an Orc, Trying to Control it... to learn about their anatomy and biology [Also because its shy]

An artificier, Armourer would Fit it

[empty thicket]

i was saving that one for a slime(flavored like a warforged) living armor

[sturdy tusk]

A Warforged is actually the best race for an Armourer Flavour Wise I think? A Machine that makes itself the ultimate tank to Protect its allies

Btw Quick Question, 2014 Allows for Warlock to gain Subclass at level 1, Cleric and Wizard to gain em at 2 right?

2024 forces it to be 3 for all classes?

[stuck shuttle]

Under 2014 5e Warlock, Sorcerer, and Cleric get their subs at level 1. Druid and Wizard get theirs at 2, and everyone else at 3.

2024 5.5e standardizes it to make every class get their sub at level 3

[sturdy tusk]

Ah... Ok

Thanks!

-# 2014 seems better in this

[stuck shuttle]

There's a lot of pros and cons to the change

[vestal crow]

what is the best subclass for a pure combat focused ranger in 5.5e ? my dm recommended that we try to make our characters strong

[sturdy tusk]

Such as?

Just wanna know

[knotty pasture]

Gloom Stalker if you can only use 2024 stuff, otherwise Swarmkeeper

[empty thicket]

Yep, still i can make it fit like other martials like fighter for the armor or rogue for the whole leather armor.
But i find it fit better for Artificer

[stuck shuttle]

It makes it easier for new player onboarding and resolves the issue of frontloaded classes for the purposes of dips & somewhat early power disparity (Note this does hurt a lot of optimization). On a systemic level the change is "cleaner" in a sense.

On the other hand, some of the classes lost a small bit of "uniqueness" brought on by the change. Some people also have trouble bridging the narrative with the mechanical framework since now you can't go right out the gate with subclass specific powers for classes that supposedly should (e.g. Sorcerer, Warlock).

[vestal crow]

he said only 2024 spells and spell rules are allowed but we can still use 2014 classes if we want

[sturdy tusk]

Ah...

[knotty pasture]

Yeah go Swarmkeeper

[sturdy tusk]

Artificier works a lot for Goblins and Smaller Creatures as well I think? Orc Artificier goes rlly funny and cool in many directions

[empty thicket]

yeah, its... weird

[knotty pasture]

Artificer Centaur

[sturdy tusk]

Warlock is Tempting

[sturdy tusk]

With Battlesmith

Tht would be fun ig

[knotty pasture]

Don't talk to me or my son ever again energy right there

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah lmao

Thri-Keens would be Artificier/Fighters I think?

Fighter Fits them a Lot

[knotty pasture]

I think they fit just about anything

[empty thicket]

Like i kinda get the getting the subclass with the rest of the party and all that...
can kinda justify it saying
Warlock its learning about that deity through the campaign and reaching lvl 3 is finally reaching a contact
Sorc would be like comparing to a muscle training, after using some magic and "training" it can now unlock more of his hidden potential.

[knotty pasture]

A shame that their racial traits are kind of mutually exclusive with each other

[sturdy tusk]

-# What would I do if I play as a Fathmless Warlock Plasmoid who is controlling a Body in order to explore Terrestial Lanscapes?

[knotty pasture]

You can't take advantage of both at the same time

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm

[sturdy tusk]

Wdym?

[sturdy tusk]

But what about those who know who the gods are?

[knotty pasture]

If you're a martial class you wouldn't care about the baseline 13 AC + dex armor, if you're a spellcaster you don't need the two extra arms for more weapons

[sturdy tusk]

Yeah...

[empty thicket]

which one? cleric?

[sturdy tusk]

Rogues would benefit tho

[empty thicket]

Or warlock you mean?

[sturdy tusk]

Both cleric and warlock

[empty thicket]

Cleric would reach after praying such blessings from the god he is praying.
Warlock would be the same, its reaching a "contact" with an entity

[sturdy tusk]

Clerics should know who they worship and Warlock would be making Contracts right? They would have to know which God or atleast What Kind of God that grants them powers

[humble cairn]

Swarmkeeper has access to Web, which is really strong for combat.

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm... Makes sense then

[empty thicket]

Yeah, they should and would.
Still considerate, you dont make a character and dont plan NOTHING of it to future, reaching lvl 2 you already start planning about it and more if its such big step like subclass and all that

[humble cairn]

Oh no, your Patron can absolutely be a complete mystery to you, and you to it as well.

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm...

Clerics wouldnt be like that tho

They are more Religious

They would know

[empty thicket]

Nope, cleric would get a "gift" from their deities and their resolve (faith)

[woven flint]

Your Patron doesn't even have to be an incredibly power being either!
Your fiend patron could be an IMP for example

[sturdy tusk]

-# Warlocks make sense tho

[sturdy tusk]

Ah... Makes sense

[humble cairn]

This bit from Great Old One, for example: "The Great Old One might be unaware of your existence or entirely indifferent to you, but the secrets you have learned allow you to draw your magic from it."

[sturdy tusk]

Artillerist Artificier with the Pact of Chain from Warlock can Infuse a Fireball in a Bracelet, Command an Imp to go to the middle of a party and explode

[humble cairn]

They would probably, yes. Unless they don't worship a god at all and instead have faith in a principle of reality like Love or Justice or something.

[empty thicket]

The Great old one: "someone is scratching my back, it feel nice"
Me scrapping all the magic i can from him

[sturdy tusk]

Makes sense then

[sturdy tusk]

Fathomless: Drown, and You shall Gain Powers

Fiend: I grant you powers of Hell

Fathomless might be my fav Subclass tbh

[woven flint]

Archfey: Do Crimes, be whimsical, sow mischief!

[sturdy tusk]

Imma brb, Checking all other subclasses of Classes

-# ALso Lowk Lycan Bloodhunter with Path of Beast Barbarian

[empty thicket]

It depends too, if a DM introduce a whole "Sequence" for each character.
Like the cleric is praying and have a vision of his deity
The warlock in a long rest get contacted in his dreams by the deity
Fighter is training and find out a "style" that fit them or in case of the 2 magic subclasses he was learning and adapting it to himself the magic

[vestal crow]

we have a lot of utility focused characters would it still be the best if i wanted to go for more damage ?

[empty thicket]

yeah, that is good.
While you can cover a missing piece in your party being DPS or damage in general

[woven flint]

Mind you, when multiclassing, Flavorful doesn't always equal mechanically useful or good,
you can solo-class and be just fine

[humble cairn]

Utility = non-combat solutions to problems, what is it you're referring to here?

Do you mean you have a Control heavy group?

[vestal crow]

ah my bad sorry, yes we have a control heavy group or at least thats what they said

[rough basalt]

I'm looking forward to my dnd sessions next week

[humble cairn]

Hunter is the most martial of the Ranger subclasses if you want to just fully lean into the martial side of Ranger.

[rough basalt]

Monday gets a Bastion and more t2 encounters.
Tuesday we fight John Death Knight
And Wednesday I get to throw a Gelatinous Cube at a party for the 1st time.

[vestal crow]

what about gloomstalker ? i remember a lot of people using it back in the day is it nerfed ?

[woven flint]

Its nerfed a bit, but its still incredibly good

I speak from experince

[rough basalt]

It's just not God tier anymore

[humble cairn]

It is no longer OP, no. You still get great combat advantages, but it does really want to play entirely in the dark.

[rough basalt]

Just pretty good

[humble cairn]

If your entire party has darkvision and is okay staying in the dark, Gloomstalker is very powerful.

[rough basalt]

Tokii gonna get a Forge built in the Bastion to finally get his plate armor.

Plate Armor the new horse too.

[empty thicket]

it get literally 3 buffs at lvl 3 gloomstalker, its... pretty good that

While hunter have to chose one...

[woven flint]

Finally...
I can be Johnathan 20 AC lmao

I'm loving the Dueling fighting style on Fighter I'm ngl,
feels good

+2 to damage is never bad

its as good as having one of those bonus magic items without having a magic item

[empty thicket]

and they nerfed hunter
i remember in 2014 a lvl 7 feature, Multiattack defense make you get +4AC towards the enemy that attack you
And
The whole lvl11 multi attacks options---

Damn...

Just damn, but i guess it is what it is. It could be worse

[humble cairn]

Getting +1d8 damage every turn is great for keeping damage numbers up and it doesn't expend resources or rely on being in the dark. Of course Gloomstalker gets +2d6 which is higher damage initially, but it uses up a resource so it doesn't sustain that damage as long as Hunter could. But the Advantage on all attacks makes up for that if you get to stay in the dark.

[humble cairn]

I like that you can swap options on Hunter '24.

[empty thicket]

Its a resource that scale with a stat you already use and another feature scale too with that. Its like... everything fit toooooo well for me. +10 speed is something good too considerating some scenarios

[knotty pasture]

You would typically pick up the Moderately Armored feat and shoot for a Half Plate + Shield

So it stops being relevant after level 4

(Or multiclass dip into something with armor/shield proficiency but that's besides the point)

[rough basalt]

My Wednesday session tonight was wild tho

[humble cairn]

Gloomstalker is great, but Hunter is also great just different.

[rough basalt]

Level 1 session 1, Fighter has an uncommon magic plate armor, and the party has a deck of illusions.

[empty thicket]

At least, it kinda work like weapon Mastery's in some way

[rough basalt]

Cause of really good roleplay, really lucky encounter table rolls, and going into severe debt

[empty thicket]

Objective of the character: "Pay his debts"

[rough basalt]

Yeah and he can't run from them either

The merchant knows the family he serves now.

[empty thicket]

Bro is whiling to fight 5 ogres and pay 10% of his debt than going to some farm and do some hardwork

[rough basalt]

If he doesn't pay it, he's gonna get tracked down by the Unclothed Debt Collection Agency that Bjornulf the Unclothed owns /hj

[empty thicket]

Yep, still there is a little not good sour flavor there with some lil things.
But will just take the "they are different" and move on because hunter is....Weird.

[rough basalt]

It is hilarious how i advertised this campaign with trigger warnings for dark content and the first session all the encounter rolls were the goofy or absurd outliers.

Tho Monday got a big Boon of stuff.
Pretty sure there's still some loot in their new Bastion to be grabbed as well.

[empty thicket]

will be so funny going from "Jaja, they dont stop missing" to Critic in a strong attack "Your ally got beheaded standing, Run."

[woven flint]

Do you think theres a way we could get a Shield Gaurdian Amulet?
Or is it something we'd really have to work for? (Which would be completely understandable because its like.. a CR 7 or 8 creature lol)

[rough basalt]

I'd say work for, but not as hard as usual. Probably just repairing the one the Archmage used to have somewhere in that tower.

[woven flint]

Swag, it'd be nice to give to our Bard or Wizard eventually

[rough basalt]

And it means I can throw more fun encounters too

[sturdy tusk]

Back

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm

I would say that a Barbarian would be Good, High Dex, and High Con would be Fun

Hard to Hit, and Hard to Kill

-# Plus two Great Axes or Four Scimitars

They CAN hold two Greataxes right? Four Hands and Great-Axes are Two Handed

-# That might be OP tbh

[knotty pasture]

They can't hold two greataxes at once, the weapons in the subarms need to have the light property

[sturdy tusk]

Ah...

[knotty pasture]

That however does mean that you can hold a greataxe and a torch

[sturdy tusk]

A Greataxe and Shield?

[knotty pasture]

I don't think so(?)

[sturdy tusk]

Would that Work?

[knotty pasture]

Cuz that's not a light weapon, a shield's its own thing

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm...

[odd valley]

shields aren’t light weapons so you wouldn’t be able to hold it in your off hands

[sturdy tusk]

Ig I can hold Four Scimitars then

[knotty pasture]

You can't really attack 4 times for the record

[sturdy tusk]

Ik...

[glass granite]

Is cool tho

[sturdy tusk]

-# Unless you are a Fighter

[odd valley]

not even as a fighter

[knotty pasture]

(You don't use your subarms to attack during the 4 times)

[glass granite]

Or a monk, though those attacks won’t all be with weapons

[sturdy tusk]

Ah...

[vestal crow]

i saw that humans get 2 origin feats but on dnd beyond there is only one. do they get it at later levels or something or is beyond different ?

[glass granite]

Humans get one from species and one from background

[sturdy tusk]

Apart from eldritch Blast, What other Cantrip would Fit a Fathomless Thri-Keen Warlock?

[glass granite]

Minor illusion, mage hand (do tentacles), prestidigitation (do warlocks get that?) and Mind Sliver

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm... Minor Illusion and Mage hand are tempting... Prestigidation would help a Rogue in poisoning or Distracting.... What is Mind Sliver tho?

[glass granite]

“You drive a disorienting spike of psychic energy into the mind of one creature you can see within range. The target must succeed on an Intelligence saving throw or take 1d6 psychic damage and subtract 1d4 from the next saving throw it makes before the end of your next turn.”

[sturdy tusk]

Damn

Thats rlly good

[glass granite]

Flavour it as tendrils of the deep overcoming their mind

[sturdy tusk]

I can take Pact of Blade and Chain as well right?

[sturdy tusk]

That sounds interesting... I'll take Mind Sliver

[glass granite]

Is this 2014 or 2024 rules?

[sturdy tusk]

2014

[glass granite]

Idk then, I play 2024

[sturdy tusk]

Cuz Fathomless isn't Level 1 in 2024

[glass granite]

Yeah everything’s level 3 in terms of subclasses

[sturdy tusk]

yeah

[fair summit]

In 5e you only get one of the pact boons

[sturdy tusk]

Imma just draw my Character lol, Fathomless with Pact os Blade means II can use Rapier

[glass granite]

Pirate vibe?

[humble cairn]

Not in 2014, no.

[sturdy tusk]

Oh Wait

[sturdy tusk]

Sailor more accurately

Vice Captain of a Sailing Crew

[sturdy tusk]

I can take Pact of Blade and Two Invocations Then?

Cuz of 2014

Wait no, thats level 2, Ok

[humble cairn]

Yes, in 2014, Pact of the Blade is not an invocation.

[sturdy tusk]

HmmW

What Invocation would fit it tho?

[hot gate]

Personally, it's hard to point to a single thing, as it's an across the board quality of life update. Rules have been state more clearly, the glossary helps immensely with looking things up, players get more toys (masteries and origin feats) and on the DM sinde, monsters have been written so they're easier to run, but at the same time more appropriately strong for their challenge rating.

[humble cairn]

For me the 2024 update basically fixed things in about 90%+ of cases, removing edge cases, smoothing over pain points, fixing things that were awkward or clunky in the 2014 PHB.

[severe rampart]

I find people to commission on various social media platforms, some of them turn out to become my friends and I just keep on commissioning them from there!

[vestal crow]

if i take 5 ranger and 11 battle master can i attack 4 times in a turn with a single action ?

[humble cairn]

There's a lack of information. What weapons are you using?

[sturdy tusk]

Back

[humble cairn]

The Extra attack feature of different classes does not stack, if that's the question.

[sturdy tusk]

Oh damn

So wait, can I use extra attack to use a Spell?

Or is it just melee

-# Spell, lets say multiclass into Warlock and Fighter

[vestal crow]

crossbow with crossbow expert feat

[humble cairn]

Only if you are a Bladesinger Wizard, Valor Bard '24, or Eldritch Knight '24.

[sturdy tusk]

Ah, Ok

[humble cairn]

With a single action and that multiclass it would be 3 attacks.

[sturdy tusk]

Would it Stack?

Eldritch Nknght?

[humble cairn]

With what?

[sturdy tusk]

and Warlock

lets say, 15 in Fighter'Eldritch knight and 5 in Warlock'Fathomless

[humble cairn]

Can put a little more detail into your question, this is all very vague.

[sturdy tusk]

Hmm

[humble cairn]

What features are you trying to stack? Just telling me the subclass isn't enough information.

[sturdy tusk]

The Extra Attack and Action Surge from Fighter, From Warlock: Eldritch Blast

-# Ik eldritch blast isn't a feature, but still

[humble cairn]

You cannot use Eldritch Blast as part of your Hextra Attack, it is not a Wizard spell.

[sturdy tusk]

Only Wizard Spells?

Hmm... Till what Level can We use it?