dnd-discussion

[humble cairn]

Ahh so third party material, try #third-party they might be more knowledgeable.

[shadow vapor]

thank you

[vapid onyx]

Hey, so I was reading about Grungs because one of my players wants to be one. They have poisonous skin and can apply poison to piercing weapon attacks, so the target has to make a DC12 Con saving throw or take 2d4 damage. That feels OP. Is it not? And if it is OP, is there a way to change this, or should I just remove the feature overall?

[valid geyser]

eh. It's a little strong, and might be kinda annoying to deal with, but i guess not game breaking at least after a couple levels

[swift wren]

I found it mostly annoying to add a separate roll to all ranged attacks, so we made it d4 instead of 2d4 - and honestly it doesnt really matter beyond 4th level

[valid geyser]

also grungs are technically not first party so you can tell them no on that grounds. Theyre from an extra life charity expansion and unlike tortles, were not reprinted in monsters of the multiverse

[fossil hollow]

it never scales, and its a CON save, which maaaaany monsters will bave good bonuses on, especially t higher level. Poison damage is also the worst damage types since so many monsters generally resist or are immune to it

[vapid onyx]

Alr, thanks guys! I do wanna let him be one, I don't like the idea of restricting him since he loves tiny lil frogs so much. Ill just change it to a 1d4 instead of 2d4

[valid geyser]

it is weird wotc printed playable grungs before bullywugs. Seems like itd be more reasonable to have a frog species that doesnt have poisonous skin

[glossy otter]

yeah, why hasn't bullywug become a player race?

[fossil hollow]

its not like bullywugs hav any problematic things with them

[woven flint]

I mean, honestly, 2d4 typically averages to an Extra 4 damage
And it's on a Con Saves AND they have to remember to apply it to specifically a piercing weapon

I don't really think it needs to be nerfed that much, considering bugbear surprise attack, which, while yes, it's only for the first round of combat, it's significantly more powerful as its 2d6 and applies to every attack you make on that turn for free

[valid geyser]

i think the major issue ive seen with grungs is touch spells. A cleric can't cast cure wounds on a grung without having to make the save iirc

[swift wren]

tbf, thats hilarious

[valid geyser]

its kind of funny conceptually, but it's bound to get annoying in a long campaign

[swift wren]

Not healing the dying character because he is covered in poison :,D A person wanting to be nice to the Grung, patting their head and just instant death

[swift wren]

there is tiny leon's hut, we probably got tiny leon's containment ball somewhere

[woven flint]

Healing Word also exists

[opaque dove]

Been looking to DM a 2E campaign

[fair plinth]

Can the goliaths large form ability apply when a druid is in wildshape? In 24e

[ashen orchid]

Is grimm hollow worth it

[fossil hollow]

you dont get your species features in wildshape

[swift wren]

Depends on what you are looking for?

[still plover]

Up to you, really. Here's what comes in it: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/ghpg

Do you want dark fantasy elements in your D&D? This has some to get you started and ideas to make your own.

[minor cargo]

Tell me about some prominent/memorable bisexual/pansexual NPCs in your game!

[ashen orchid]

Well Ive got the core player rules plus crooked moon

And i really like crooked moon i thought that it was kinda the same you know folk lore and dark fantasy

[worn lagoon]

I don't generally decide on sexualities when I make an NPC

I never actually thought about it, hm...

[minor cargo]

Do you ever have NPCs who have a romantic partner, like a husband or wife? That can be part of picking an NPC’s sexuality.

[worn lagoon]

They do, I guess I just haven't taken the moment to pin it down

So basically everyone's bi unless I decide on the spot otherwise

[swift wren]

Before finding out I was queer I just rolled on that, and it kinda stuck with me. Like I feel I wrote better characters leaving gender and sexuality to fate 🎉 since then just a lot of queer folx, naturally

[hollow stone]

i do find it very fun to make characters be some form of LGBTQ+ and not even bid it a passing glance, it's very fun to make DND a little world where such normal things are treated as history has failed to treat them

[woven flint]

My characters are typically all males, but some have had husband's, some have had wives and some just do their own thing because they'd rather not have the possibility of leaving loved ones behind

One of my characters partner is actually another player character, which is a first for me lol
(My Dragonborn Fighter and his Kobold Monk boyfriend lol)

Generally romance or Sexuality isn't important to my characters for me though

[hot marlin]

Lord Voronwë was a powerful elven lord at whose house we stayed for some time. It turned out that he had lots of children. From many different partners, including a dragon, a demon, an angel, a drow... While he prefered male form, he had sometimes taken female form through magic when he and his male partners wanted to have a child. When we met him, he was in a political marriage with a fellow elf, and played the part of the dutiful lord, but there were lots of gossip about his scandalous youth.

[woven flint]

It's their goals, ambitions and the legacy they set to leave behind

[hollow stone]

i usually make female characters cause me is female, but i've also made like two nonbinary characters

[graceful terrace]

i searched for an hour to find a game and NO. AVAILIBLE. ONES. istg imma lose my mind

[swift wren]

My god, they got Zeus in DnD too

[woven flint]

Actually, yes, literally

Zeus is a Deity in the Realms

[hollow stone]

spend like two minutes a day, not full hours at a time lol, it's more cost effective

[woven flint]

A lot of Mythological characters are in D&D because something about them bring somewhat connected worlds

[graceful terrace]

there aren't any gmt minor friendly campaigns, im depressed

[hot marlin]

The joke being that "Lord Voronwë is attracted to everything sapient except his own kind" and that his family had to essentially force him into that marriage

[idle oar]

Most D&D games are not instant join and play kind of things - they can take days/weeks/months to coordinate schedules and set things up.

[woven flint]

Hell, the Knowledge Deity in the Faeraunian Pantheon (Oghma) is also a Celtic Deity from my understanding

[hot marlin]

He and his wife cheated on each other gleefully btw

[graceful terrace]

yeah ty for the info

[worn lagoon]

an hour is on the lower end. i've been looking for weeks.

[hot marlin]

Irish mythology yes.

[worn lagoon]

it's worse than the job market out there somehow

[hollow stone]

i mean if you can just translate the timezone you can find one within acceptable hours to you, or post an ad for you in #looking-for-dm

[swift wren]

"There is a three year gap in your resume where you did not play DnD, can you explain that?"

[graceful terrace]

so how would i make one exactly?

[woven flint]

I love telling people that there are actually deities that were actually worshipped in real life in the game, it's always interesting to see a reaction

[hollow stone]

if both of them are fine with it, is it cheating? or is it polyamory? or a secret, third thing?

[worn lagoon]

I actually filled in a massively long application form yesterday. Whole thing read out like a job application, I kind of regret sinking time into it after the DM told me he had 40 applicants already.

[hot marlin]

They were offended when the other was doing it, and did it to spite the other.

[woven flint]

"I thought it was all just made up stuff!"
"Nope! And Elminster visited Greenwoods house within the lore too!"

[hollow stone]

go to #find-a-game and put in the slash command

[hollow stone]

and are they both into this game of being with other people?

[swift wren]

Yepp, as a GM I feel that a lot, depending on what you are running and where you are advertising it can easily get to 50+ people

[graceful terrace]

wont lemme make one, i made one between 3 days ago and today which sucks

[hot marlin]

Uh?

I don't understand the question

[worn lagoon]

the looking for DM channel may as well be removed for how disproportionate the amount of searching players are compared to the amount of searching DMs

[hollow stone]

are they having fun playing the spiting their partner game?

[swift wren]

And for a non-dnd game I love that has an infamous shortage of GMs it about 30+ applications in 2 hours

[hot marlin]

Again: They hated when the other one did it. They each did it out of spite for the other.

It was one of the many ways they constantly warred

[woven flint]

It's not a "game" to them, no

[hollow stone]

oh then it's cheating, yea

[tall forge]

Player cant make the next 2 weeks of dnd

[worn lagoon]

it just makes it more upsetting that I had two perfectly good parties. one only ruined by one problem player and the other by two silent dippers and the DM giving up instantly

[tall forge]

Right before major boss fight and encounter

Crying and dying

[woven flint]

Have filler episodes

[hollow stone]

meh, i got a DM come to me from one such ad and i'm sure others have had the same

[tall forge]

Kinda not how we do, at least not before fighting a bbeg of an entire arc

[woven flint]

Non-Canon events to the actual game until the player returns

It's how Bleach did it! /hj

But, of course, I get that too
Perhaps the PC could be doing something to help in the background so it's not like they're just not there

[tall forge]

More so the combat

Re-balancing it last minute is rough

[gaunt osprey]

Guys I twisted my ankle, shall I still trek it to D&D club?

||(This is rhetorical and I shall do anyway)||

[woeful sail]

I mean, if you could get some crutches, you'll play while seating so I don't see anything with your logic

[mortal tinsel]

i'd give you dis advantage on all athletics check if i was your dm for the day

[woven flint]

Disadvantage on Dexterity saving throws too

[gaunt osprey]

Thank u bro 🙏

[rough basalt]

Don't forget disadvantage on Acrobatics checks too

[soft bone]

Looking to add to a group of 3, we play every other Sunday, (14th march is next Sunday we play) and twice a week on weekdays, all new to it n first time any experience welcomed, we’re running dragon of ice spire peak, dm me for more info

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[rough basalt]

I hate the wait for sessions.

[south prawn]

Same, so I’m working on firing up a second group to DM and seeking groups to play in. I’m going to over-correct into overload lol

[molten pumice]

Do y'all pay any attention to the fact that there are silvered range weapons? Like in y'all's minds how does that work? I can kinda rationalize the silvered firearms as having silver down the barrels that gets scraped off a little by each bullet that gets fired, and thst carries silver into the target, but I feel like even if that makes sense (I'm not the most gun guy to ever gun, my bag is more swords) it can only track for so long before the silver is stripped down to a point where the bullets don't carry any of it. It also doesn't really do much about silvered bows/crossbows

[fossil hollow]

You silver the ammunition

[molten pumice]

Yeah, silver ammunition makes sense, just like adamantine ammunition, that tracks easy

But there are silvered pistols and muskets listed too

[rugged hawk]

You tell them it's a silvered weapon. If they fail their knowledge check, they believe it is and it functions as silver against them.

[fossil hollow]

Oh right, 2024 changed up silver weapons

[molten pumice]

Which implies that somehow the weapon itself carries silver through every shot

[still plover]

It's magic. I don't have to explain a darn thing.

[molten pumice]

The magic at least has to make sense to itself. I'm all for "a wizard did it" but I at least wanna know what "it" is

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but I still demand falling physics so I can drop Summon Iron Walls on fools.

Also, I'm gonna need to insist on diving physics, because Walk on Water makes targets rocket to the surface at 60 ft per round, and that'll kill you with the Bends almost instantly at that speed.

[still plover]

Fine! The metaphysical impression of the silver on the bow transfers to the ammunition as without an arrow, a bow is a bendy stick.

With an arrow, a bow can kill a dragon.

[molten pumice]

If putting a bullet in my silvered gun magically transmute the bullet's material into silver, awesome, but that seems like an odd thing to claim for what they say a silver weapon is

[rough basalt]

i just had s0 for my second dm'd game yesterday

[limpid patrol]

what do you guys think would be the best two lowest stats for a paladin? ive got 2 -1 s. going to dump int, dont know if i should make dex or wis the other -1 stat

[rough basalt]

now im making a 3rd dm'd game for fridays of another system cause i need more

[fossil hollow]

INT and WIS/DEX, pick your poison for the latter

[rugged hawk]

Ammo gains transitive properties depending on weapon discharged, losing those properties once it hits or misses. /s

Normal arrow -> silver bow -> silver arrow -> hits target or the ground -> normal again /s

[molten pumice]

😌 ah, I see, I see 🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[limpid patrol]

im thinking maybe drop dex, perception checks i really dont want negative

[molten pumice]

That's what I thought they were claiming. Silver is so silly. Contagious little metal

[half radish]

Hello everyone

[molten pumice]

Getting its silver germs on everybody

[fossil hollow]

thats typically what Proficiency is supposed to help with

[rugged hawk]

I don't think that's actually how it works. Pretty sure you need the correct ammo type.

Unless that's a specific property of the weapon.

[molten pumice]

Too late. Silver contagious, canon 2024

Rub a silver long sword on a cannonball, fire the canon at a werewolf, it was a silvered cannonball, werewolf is mist now

[rugged hawk]

Like, I can think of a few ranged weapons that temporarily alter their ammo, but most only affect your aim and damage. Even with a +5 bow, if you use a normal arrow, you still won't damage a Demon.

[limpid patrol]

thats true, i could do that, right now i prof in athletics, intimidation, persuasion and deception, can drop one of those and add it to perception

[cedar moss]

hi guys

[rugged hawk]

Which is also why things like Bottomless Quiver +3 exist

[molten pumice]

🫡 good soldiers know metals are highly contagious and transmit through touch, that's why you cut a werebear with a silver sword all the iron in its blood turns to silver and it dies of silver poisoning in one hit (nat 20s and players who wanna rush home required)

[knotty vine]

my new dm said my thri kreen telepathy didnt work when i cant telling him that it wasnt magic

casue i was in an anti magic field

[molten pumice]

Get him with A Real Gun™ and explain that psionics come from the brainy lands and magic comes from the sparkle dimension

[fossil hollow]

You have the magical ability to transmit your thoughts mentally to willing creatures within 120 feet of yourself.

[molten pumice]

Everyone understands the Sparkle Dimension, it's very cosmic, very well documented, but the brainy lands are confusing to most 🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[fossil hollow]

Why are we in Planarcadia

[half radish]

Whats a planarcadia?

[knotty vine]

why is dnd like this

[fossil hollow]

Planet from Honkai Star Rail

[rugged hawk]

The question is never 'why' when dealing with humans. It's 'why not' and they will always disregard any reasonable answers to do it anyway, usually with alcohol and reckless chaos.

[knotty vine]

UA kalatasher trait would have been cool
Psychic Glamour. Choose one of the following skills: Insight, Intimidation, Performance, or Persuasion. You have advantage on all ability checks you make with that skill.

[half radish]

Ooo Gotcha

[molten pumice]

The real question is why would you fact check me by pointing out that it does say thri kreen brain magic is magic while I'm in the middle of a commercial for my wonderful product A Real Gun™?

[radiant night]

Whelp I'm in the hospital

[molten pumice]

Now nobody will buy 😮‍💨

[radiant night]

I apparently rolled a 5 on a con saving throw and whelp here I am

[fossil hollow]

... its a public server mate, discussions come and go

[rugged hawk]

Aye. And here comes an alignment convo now.... 👀

[fossil hollow]

Vinnath. Its been less than 24 hours

[marble lion]

Oh its a big one!!!!

[rugged hawk]

Yes, which means it's time for another.

[half radish]

Why did you have to roll con in the first place? (if you’d like to tell us)

[radiant night]

It was a joke

[half radish]

Ik but what happened

[marble lion]

Brace yeselves lads this ones tackling slavery and passive negligence

[radiant night]

But I am actually in the hospital

[rugged hawk]

On a related note, Vecna's clearly just misunderstood CN, not CE.

[marble lion]

Nah hes evil but not chaotic

Hes neutral evil

[half radish]

Anyways get better soon

[radiant night]

Chest pain+ a weird heart rhythm= hospital

[marble lion]

Ah like me then, post covid?

[radiant night]

Idk, I'm severely anemic and not taking any chances

[rugged hawk]

WotC gives me chest pain every time I see their DDB Marketplace prices

[knotty vine]

you know im surprised we dont have a dnd cat monster with a 9 lives ability or something not even advantage on dex saves?

[marble lion]

Best of luck

[radiant night]

WHICH reminds me of a story

[undone rain]

I actually really like githyankis, their medium armor proficency and several weapon proficencys can be really useful for a few squishy classes

[molten pumice]

Cat that gets progressively more sentient the more times you kill it. House cat to puss in boots to one of those lackadaisy cats or that noir cat detective I'm blanking on the name of rn

Could also just be a straight up bipedal palico/puss in boots cat that comes back 9 times

Unfortunately though there's the cosmic problem of every creature has 9 lives if your DM is annoying enough

"I know you killed this guy, but I liked him, so here he is again, his sheet fully unedited, and a line of dialog saying he simply can't die yet" 🤷🏿‍♂️

[swift wren]

Also, killing a creature and then its body stands up as Zombie and it spirit comes back as Poltergeist/Ghost, always a good suprise as GM

[radiant night]

What are y'all up to?

[fossil hollow]

updating one of my species to 2024 standards

[radiant night]

But.....it's 2026

[fossil hollow]

... sorry, 5.5e standards

[quick flower]

I'm gonna be designing a new TTRPG system separate from DND. I'm debating if it should be pvp like warhammer, pve like DND, or PvPvE. What do you think?

[fossil hollow]

#non-dnd-topics

[cold pond]

The hardest thing as a new player, but wanna play in real life is looking for dm

Even in a big city

[limpid patrol]

one last question then i think my build is complet, taking magic initiate, should i go shield or silvery barbs

[molten pumice]

Multiple stores in my big city run Adventure League games but I haven't been able to convince myself to spend money on them to see how they are for myself yet. On account of the horror stories. Pretty sure this server has Adventures League stuff though so maybe people can hype you up with stories of positive experiences and then you can check local stores for games

[quick flower]

Danke

[south prawn]

There are a couple of local FaceBook groups in my area where people post for players quite a bit

[hot marlin]

Isn't that question something you should have asked yourself before starting to design it?

Oh wait, yeah wrong channel

[quick flower]

It is. I'm just curious what people may find interesting.

[hot marlin]

On topic, you will find that a lot of the D&D audience has a certain dislike of PvP.

[swift wren]

The system when its finished hopefully :) Best of luck

[fossil hollow]

I just realized the PHB mentioned Dark Sun

Halfling communities come in all varieties. For every sequestered shire tucked away in an unspoiled part of the world, there’s a crime syndicate like the Boromar Clan in the Eberron setting or a territorial mob of halflings like those in the Dark Sun setting.

[molten pumice]

mob of halflings that break people's knees with lead pipes?

[fossil hollow]

i imagined pitchforks and torches, but that works

[lofty moth]

Hey i can type in the looking for chaneals

[molten pumice]

I don't know a thing about Dark Sun beyond the assumption that their stars aren't all that bright, but boy do I like the idea of halfling gangsters

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

Eberron has that, thats the Boromar clan

[solar crow]

We're gonna be fighting an ancient red dragon-

[glass granite]

Goood luck!

[rugged hawk]

As long as it remains a fight.

[solar crow]

We killed a Baylor last week at level 16. We're now level 17 lmao

Party of 5

[tender fossil]

Instead of fighting him to drive him off have you tried moving into the dungeon next to his and just be as obnoxious as possible until he leaves?

[solar crow]

We're in an abandoned ruins of a city rn lol

We already explored the rest of the city

[rugged hawk]

That's free real estate, just move in

[tender fossil]

And bring friends. Ancient red dragons might be nasty but even they fear the HOA

[solar crow]

The dungeon is going up in flames slowly. All the "buildings " are just metal spires without doors

[solar crow]

One of our players already tried asking it to play cards and it said no

[rugged hawk]

flames
metal spires

[solar crow]

Already tried flames and attacking it before combat

[rugged hawk]

Ah yes, the tried and true that ALWAYS works on fire dragons, attacking them with flames

[solar crow]

Lol

[rugged hawk]

What could possibly go wrong with trying that?

Should've just brought a Decanter of Endless Water instead

[tender fossil]

He could be trying to trigger a structural collapse by overheating the metal support pillars. Dragon would not be expecting that

[solar crow]

The only time anyone in our party died died so far was last session we had last semester which was the exact halfway point of the campaign. Our barbarian got hit with power word kill right before the end of the fight. We had revivify scrolls he's fine

[rugged hawk]

Are you expecting me to believe flames can melt metal support pillars? /s

This isn't Xenoblade Chronicles 2, kiddo

[solar crow]

Session 4 level 4 we killed our first dragon: young blue dragon I think it was. Session I think 7 or 8, same level, fought and killed a legendary shadow dragon. Both times at most people got knocked unconscious no one fully died

We've got a crazy party lol

[tender fossil]

Always take the crazy option. Nobody ever plans for crazy

[marble lion]

I like to go along with dms plans for the most part

[molten pumice]

I miss a la carte purchases. I really want those faerun subclasses but I really shouldn't drop 30 bucks just to slightly expand my character building options rn

[tender fossil]

I'm an analog gamer myself. Hard copy or nothing

[molten pumice]

Charisma fighter and genie paladin are calling to me like sirens rn

Analog it'd be considerably more expensive and every hard copy in my area claims genie paladin adds con to AC

[tender fossil]

Too bad there's not many subglasses for fighter that benefit charisma. I know of one for the setting I play in but you have to get DM permission to use a third party book

[molten pumice]

So digital is better for my needs

[tender fossil]

You got to play with the tools that serve you best. Not everybody can afford physical copies, not everybody lives in an area with a lot of gamers, you just roll the dice and you take your chance

[keen valve]

Be a lunatic if your character is a lunatic, like I always say.

At least as long as it doesn't get too bad.

[umbral girder]

That's why I always make sure to read all the lore in the book. For all that advice, and getting worth out of my dollars.

[tender fossil]

I do love me some lore. I just hate having to use plots spackle to explain it when two writers can't agree on the continuity

Red steel boxed set, I'm looking at you. Seriously the player book in the DM book couldn't even agree on the map

[fast latch]

How could Rogue be buffed to bring its damage in line with Fighter and Monk?

[glass granite]

Lower the conditions for sneak attack maybe?

[rough basalt]

It's damage is pretty good

[woven flint]

I think Rogues already do good damage

[rough basalt]

It's hard not to get sneak attack ime

[near karma]

doubling sneak attack scaling helps

[glass granite]

I personally don’t think rogues need a buff, but if I did I’d do that

[woven flint]

That's a bad idea, to he blunt

[umbral girder]

You don't even need to focus on damage.

[fast latch]

Define doubling

[near karma]

How? Rogue damage sucks

[rough basalt]

No it doesn't

[umbral girder]

Oh thats bad, bad.

[near karma]

doubled dice

[glass granite]

I also think rogues are also ooc skill menaces

[tender fossil]

You'd have to tweak the class pretty heavily. They're not meant to do constant damage, just one big damage spike. You need to play them hit and run. Attack on your terms,

[fast latch]

TWENTY d6?!

[near karma]

yeah, in tier 4 lol

[woven flint]

Rogue is in a good state, if you want more damage, just dual wield or get magic items lmao

[fast latch]

Alright

[rough basalt]

Nealens got good experience with Rogue damage

[umbral girder]

Or do something that isn't damage either.

[woven flint]

Yeah, Soras Scion Rogue SLAPS in Eve of Ruin

[fast latch]

Someone said Rogue had bad damage and I thought they had a good point when compared to Fighter

[umbral girder]

That's like saying "The Fighter's spellcasting is bad compared to Wizard"

[rare sky]

Been asking this to all who'd give an ear:
now thinking about, what song in any language sounds villainous?

[woven flint]

Fighter and Rogue are opposite sides of the field.

Rogues are precise, that's why they have one attack that does massive damage

[glass granite]

Fighters are designed to be mainly good at combat tho, while rogues aren’t fully designed only for combat damage

[tender fossil]

Rogue does damage on their terms. Set traps, lay ambushes, hit them where they aren't expecting it. And then taunt them until they make a mistake

[rough basalt]

For example on a fighter
If a Level 20 Fighter and Rogue hit the same target, the Fighter only gets more damage potential if they action surge and hit all attacks which is a limited resource

[tender fossil]

Remember you're a glass cannon, the best way to avoid damage is not to be there

[near karma]

in 2024 this is less true because fighter nova was ruined and rogue got some nice stuff like being able to double sneak attack more easily through thief

but in 2014 5e, fighter does way better damage because of sharpie and extra attack, not to mention better subclasses like battle master, and benefiting more from magic items

[fast latch]

How was Fighter nova ruined?

[glass granite]

Sharpshooter and GWM changes i suspect

[rough basalt]

As someone whose played mostly martials with the 2024 rules, I feel like I've been doing more consistent good damage

[near karma]

Sharpshooter lost -5 -10 among other changes like having to use 2 hand crossbows with cbe, peace dips becoming harder

[umbral girder]

Ah yes because a class is considered only good when you just don't look at their class or subclass features.

[woven flint]

What?
My level 5 2024 Fighter did a whopping 47 damage against a Hydra On Monday lol, I don't think they're hurting

[rough basalt]

And that was with a Flail

[woven flint]

I'm not even using the best fighting style either (though dueling is pretty fun)

[worn lagoon]

gwm changes were relatively minor compared to sharpshooter just kind of dying

both got nerfed big time though

[glass granite]

Oh crossbows only needed one hand in 2014? I didn’t know that

Oh wrong reply

[worn lagoon]

I'd still take 24 gwm, i'm not even gonna bother with archery in 24

[woven flint]

Hand Crossbows in particular

[near karma]

no, you need a free hand to load hand crossbows

[worn lagoon]

crossbow expert

[glass granite]

I thought so

[glass granite]

CBE gets rid of Loading, not Ammunition

[near karma]

still requires a free hand in 2014
not in 2024

[tender fossil]

That's why you have the druid train a monkey assistant to reload for you

[worn lagoon]

all it says is "You ignore the loading quality of crossbows with which you are proficient."

[rough basalt]

My current level 15 rogue uses a +1 hand crossbow, and a vicious dagger, I do between 30 and 50 damage, usually the 40s regularly so I think the damage is pretty good.

And that's with being giganerfed /j

Cause some evil wizard is out there fudging my rolls so I never crit /j

[near karma]

mhm, and

Ammunition. You can use a weapon that has the ammunition property to make a ranged attack only if you have ammunition to fire from the weapon. Each time you attack with the weapon, you expend one piece of ammunition. Drawing the ammunition from a quiver, case, or other container is part of the attack. Loading a one-handed weapon requires a free hand. At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield.

That's the ammunition property

[rough basalt]

Least when we get to the final boss at level 20 I'll be able to guaranteed crit

[severe rampart]

When I find that wizard...

[rough basalt]

So I can see the 20d6

[woven flint]

Let's hope we can cave Vecnas head in

Together

[umbral girder]

Probably 22d6+dex mod +weapon bonuses+ ammo bonuses

[tender fossil]

Laughs in Bargle

[glass granite]

Don’t you have to miss/fail to get the free 20?

[rough basalt]

If it were on the dagger, it'd be
2d4 + mod + 4d6 from vicious then +20d6 for sneak attack.

Oh yeah true

The wizard fudging my rolls is gonna make me only roll regular hits

[umbral girder]

Gives you bless so you can't get your free crits /jk

[rough basalt]

Me harnessing all my bad luck to roll a 1

[umbral girder]

"The nearby Halfling gives you bountiful luck to reroll the 1" /jk

[glass granite]

The only time having a lower AC decreases the damage you take

[woven flint]

I find that Rogues and Monks consistently land killing shots, I dunno if that's just because of where they roll on initiative
But Vakbo (Monk from Soras game)
And
Rowan (Soras Rogue in Nealens game)
Are always getting the final blows (majority of the time) against bosses/minibosses

[dusk geyser]

I've been making a campaign for a group I'll be doing, and I remade the characters, combat items, magic system, etc. to make it mistborn themed. I will be giving them hemalurgic spikes to do healing and stuff, so when they kill the lord ruler or whatever boss i use, would it be funny to say something like "Ruin takes over your bodies. Everyone needs to change their alignment to chaotic evil" and then turn them into inquisitors to fight vin? These people are new to the books, so they will know what is happening if they have more than 1 hemalurgic spike in

it'll be so funny

[rough basalt]

I like having martial heavy party's to dm for

[woven flint]

That's why you like the Monday party, eh? Lmao

[umbral girder]

Your wednesday party

[rugged hawk]

How does this impact the type of ammo? Like, if your bow is, let's say, Silvered or magical, does it confer that on the ammo temporarily, or do you still need specific Silver / +3 / +5 ammo?

[rough basalt]

And I'll like the Wednesday cause they got a Fighter, Paladin, and Barbarian

[fast latch]

Just make your party will think suddenly being forced to be Chaotic Evil is fun

[umbral girder]

I'm that Barbarian on the Wednesday game

[dusk geyser]

they will

[rough basalt]

Nealens gonna turn Wild Magic barb into the gigameta

[umbral girder]

17 Hp at level 1 will not save me.

[dusk geyser]

This party is full of naturaly chaotic people

[rough basalt]

Giving the 1/2 and 1/3rd casters more slots later

[umbral girder]

Yep!

I'm not afraid of having a meh subclass, I see it as a "How can I make this happen" challenge. and a party with little slots will no doubt enjoy it.

[rough basalt]

I feel bad for a Mummy Lord or Lich that comes across that party.
Just gets grabbed and smited then runs, repeat

[umbral girder]

Lich walks up only to be bugged by screaming and vomiting Flumphs that appeared when I raged

[rough basalt]

Gonna be funny when you guys have to fight something in a wild magic zone

Since everyone but you uses spell slots

And you're the Wild Magic Barb so you're in on it too in your own way

[umbral girder]

The Wood elf barbarian build is gonna be fun because I get a boost to movement speed earlier than Barbarians usually get it.

[rough basalt]

I think you also get 1 free cast of Longstrider at level 3 per long rest

[umbral girder]

Yep!

Pass without Trace at level 5 too.

[rough basalt]

Oh god

[umbral girder]

Strength on Survival checks too.

And advantage

[rough basalt]

Wood Elf Barbarian version of Krod

The Stealth master cause people are too afraid to acknowledge they saw him.

[umbral girder]

That's when I'm raging

Because I cannot stack that with Pass without Trace

since it is a concentration spell.

Not sure if I want GWM tho. Since the party damage is already really good.

[rough basalt]

Take athlete
Be the scourge of verticle encounters /j

[umbral girder]

More mobility

[rough basalt]

Speedy feat

[umbral girder]

Depending on our rest frequency there is durable

[rough basalt]

I like 2024 feats

[umbral girder]

Or be very confusing and take the Actor feat

[rough basalt]

The addition of half feat on all general feats was a very good change

[umbral girder]

Makes feats worth taking for MAD builds

[rough basalt]

Also so taking a feat that might not be useful every session ain't more of a drawback then a gain

Like Athlete for example

I'd never take in '14, but on some martials? That 5ft instead of half speed to get up from prone could be very useful.
Especially due to auto-conditions

[umbral girder]

Really good for Barbarian

Since status effects are on hit

[rough basalt]

And of course the 5ft movement for jumps is handy if you got a dynamic battlefield.

[umbral girder]

Oh man I forgot the climb speed!

[rough basalt]

Charger feat is another one I'd never take but consider in '24

Defensive Duelist probably had one of the best glowups.

Grappler being the best glowup and pretty solid on a lot of martials

[umbral girder]

Durable and Healer got nerfed sadly

Tbf I see why because they were wicked strong

2014 Healer was basically 10 healing potions per kit

Durable gave stupid amounts of Hp from short rests. So much so it’s now an Epic Boon

[rough basalt]

I think the grapple changes were probably one of the biggest things for martials.

Cause it gave them a way to freely burn LRs on bosses to help their teammates or their own saving throw abilities.

[fast latch]

What if Grappler let you move Grappled creatures at your full speed?

[rough basalt]

It does, I'm pretty sure

[umbral girder]

That is what new grappler does yes

[glass granite]

Mhm

[rough basalt]

Yeah it does as long as they're your size or smaller

Which makes sense.

[cerulean flume]

One of my party members almost died today because my character was too fat and slow to get a healing potion to them in time. 😭

[umbral girder]

Carry a Mastif and run away at full speed now

[cedar moss]

oop

[rough basalt]

Gotta protect the puppy

I kinda wanna make my next PC use the grappler feat

[umbral girder]

Charger is probably the first feature my Barbarian is gonna get

Fits the speedy brute build I’m going for

[rough basalt]

My completely mentally sound paladin that uses a maul or a mace when grappling.

[cobalt owl]

Bladesongs been a pretty good game to obsess over PC sword details

[jovial shadow]

Charger is meh

[umbral girder]

Sora gonna find a new reason to be annoyed with me when I cast Druidcraft every day for weather

“It’s a wild magic storm.”
“GUYS! I know what we are gonna do today!”

[rough basalt]

I have a module for randomized weather, temperature ect.

Sorry I'm a Neanderthal so the more the machine handles it for me the better

[echo meteor]

what happens if you animate dead then give your skeleton “headband of intellect”?

[cobalt owl]

Mfw I do it all manually

[cobalt owl]

Nothing until they attune to it

[echo meteor]

can you command your skeleton to attune to it?

[cobalt owl]

If it follows your commands yes. The problem is them taking the short rest

[jolly agate]

what would be a fair price for a magic cow?

[cobalt owl]

Depends on your game and how magic it is

[echo meteor]

depends on how magical it is

[south prawn]

What can this magic cow do?? Intrigued lol

[jolly agate]

Warlock and Dnd Faerun, very magical

[cobalt owl]

Make them take the short rest (nothing says they can't), then you know have a skeleton who's smarter than 95% of the DND population

[jolly agate]

shared custody between Baphomet and The Traveler (Patrons) so a lot of stuff. Just got this one skill to summon a mini Ritual of Baphomet

[cobalt owl]

Int dump stats go brrr

+4 to checks int skills and saves

[south prawn]

If you can determine its rarity, you can use the magic item pricing table in the book

[echo meteor]

would it suddenly get personality?

[cobalt owl]

That's for you to decide and your dm

[echo meteor]

it probably can’t talk because zombies don’t get language i think

[cobalt owl]

Intelligently clanks

[limber trail]

They can understand two languages but no they can't speak themselves

[echo meteor]

that’s interestingxD

then when it goes “feral” how would it act?

i think it’s pretty cool

[oak grotto]

Back to normal?

[cobalt owl]

It's just a skeleton after all

[echo meteor]

it would still be attuned to the headband, so it’s a feral zombie with 19 intelligence

[cobalt owl]

I'm only skeleton, after all

[tender fossil]

So how does that work if one of the languages is AMSLAN?

[limber trail]

They would understand common sign language but likely not have the dexterity & fingers to properly speak it

[cobalt owl]

Rotating camera gif

[echo meteor]

i wonder if they would act differently as a feral zombie with 19 intelligence

[cobalt owl]

DM dependent, most would say yes

[oak grotto]

I think it'd simply behave more intelligently. That's all.

[limber trail]

I should be clear: the zombie can understand 2 languages as a feral creature.

[echo meteor]

so it would loiter around i whereever it was left and attack whoever it sees like any other mindless zombie?

[oak grotto]

If it was a mere hostile zombie, yes. Zombies don't really have motivations.

[echo meteor]

idk, i thought it would be a pretty interesting scenario to create as a wizard, just make smart zombies

[limber trail]

I would just say a zombie doesn't have the agency or intelligence to even go about the process of spending an hour attuning to a headband of intellect

[strong wave]

What is the average HP increase for ranger

[echo meteor]

what stops you from commanding your zombie to attune to the headband of intellect?

[limber trail]

6+con per level

[umbral girder]

6+Con modifier

All average Hp increases are half the hit dice maximum +1

[limber trail]

Whoops I got my math wrong

[umbral girder]

Then add the con modifier.

[shadow vapor]

if my patron is on the same plane of existance as me, would the feature contact patron work? for example my patron is a big cat, that lives within the forests and moves through out the world at it's whim (because that's how cats work.) could I contact her with this spell?

what if my patron is unintelligible? like Hadar or whatever patron the fathomless bow too (probably a big squid.) in that case wouldn't the requirements of the original spell be completely moot, does this even matter when talking about the feature, which comes first how the feature is ruled or the spell?

[oak grotto]

Most people will make their patron an intelligent being. Idk how to answer that.

Ask your DM.

[limber trail]

These are great questions. The spell doesn't necessarily account for it a ton, but to be fully honest I imagine any decent DM will smooth over it and allow their players to contact the patron.

[umbral girder]

I usually rule the patron gives answers but not by saying it. Usually giving weird visions as an answer to give that “otherworldly” vibe

[shadow vapor]

hadar is a very common patron. and some other worldly beings are intelligent but you can't understand them, like the other non hadar goo patron.

[shadow vapor]

alright.

[oak grotto]

Isn't Hadar just a regular intelligent eldritch being?

[shadow vapor]

he's like a plant I think endless hunger that eats planets and is dying, ever head of Juiblex? kinda like juiblex but big planet.

[rugged hawk]

Given concepts are at least quasi-sentient in D&D, let's make some warlocks of cosmic Chaos.

[undone rain]

I might play a rebellious githyanki for a future campaitn someday

[oak grotto]

To me its page didn't say it wasn't an intelligent being.

[shadow vapor]

that would be fun, actuall that should be a thing, give warlock some of that cosmic power.

[shadow vapor]

You mentally contact a demigod, the spirit of a long-dead sage, or some other knowledgeable entity from another plane.

your right although it's kinda implied.

[rugged hawk]

Theoretically, anything that can conceptualized and 'reached' can technically be a patron, so yeah, the fundamental elements and forces are patron possibilities

They'd probably be even more alien than GOO, though, if you tried to actually commune with them

[shadow vapor]

it'd be kind of like the Wizard: Occultist from crooked moon, you get the ability to break the laws of the universe... but in like a lawful way because some elder god give you the keys to his backup car.

[river vector]

I feel like the only reason my players don't understand who the lich that's missing a hand is because they, like me, are new.

[covert root]

Who would make the most pragmatic GOO patron? The whole madness themes made me wish I could just have Cyric as a GOO patron, but that isn't quite it since he's, well, a god.

[oak grotto]

You should change your name to Leomund's Tiny Butt.

[still plover]

"In his desperate struggle to maintain power, Cyric resorted to cavorting with at least two of the Seven Lost Gods, Kezef the Chaos Hound and Dendar the Night Serpent."

"Cyric's immortal servants were known as the 'denizens'[117] or 'shades', souls that dwelled within the Bone Castle and the surrounding City of Strife."

Options!

[covert root]

I was tempted, but I figured this would make me less likely to get in trouble.

[fast latch]

I made up a GOO patron that’s Neutral and not malicious

They love Humanoid creatures and find them fascinating in the same way an entomologist loves bugs and finds them fascinating

[fast latch]

Hi new blood!

Welcome to one of the best games ever

[torpid hound]

Ranger: Looks at ranged Fighter "He does everything I do... But better"

[hidden spindle]

But do they have Hunter's Mark?

[rugged hawk]

Not at all! Ranged fighter is worse at being bad than ranger

[torpid hound]

Gimmicky

[rugged hawk]

Also, ranged fighter doesn't need to keep "What terrain is this?" on hotkey

Nor becomes COMPLETE CRAP the moment it's the wrong terrain / wrong enemy type

[still plover]

Pssh. Propaganda and balderdash. Rangers are fine, and their combination of skills and spellcraft makes them versatile team players.

[covert root]

Doesn’t even matter in ‘24.

[rough basalt]

Just saw the third party book i put on my next cart is 70 bucks for the physical

Gonna die of death

[still plover]

(Last time I played a ranger he continually got in trouble climbing things and not being able to get down safely. Poor Diego.)

[torpid hound]

What kind of medieval fantasy character is named Diego?

[still plover]

What kind of a biased question is that?

[rugged hawk]

Last time I played a ranger, she was a ranger/sorc named Trouble who, quite fittingly, got into massive amounts trouble and mayhem, usually at the local town's expense.

[torpid hound]

Best thing we've got in D&D is "Dyeggo"

[fast latch]

My last ranger was Zyrrho Skyslicer, an Aarakocra Gloomstalker with a revolver

[woven flint]

Why is "Diego" odd for a Fantasy character to you?

Humans exist in D&D, they can have normal names like we do in real life

[still plover]

We got elves and dwarves and devilkin tieflings but a name like Diego makes you question?

[torpid hound]

It's still medieval

[still plover]

Mate. No. Just no.

[woven flint]

The Forgotten Realms actually ISN'T medieval.

[jolly agate]

Hell naw mate, maybe a bit Spanish but hell naw

[rugged hawk]

We also have the 'Die' Barrel that sat amongst some Dye Barrels. The two idiots who climbed into it to dye their armor melted to death instantly. Because it was a DIE barrel, not a DYE barrel.

[hidden spindle]

"Jornathan!"

[river vector]

Funny how you say "new blood" considering I have a vampire spawn BBEG lol.

[jolly agate]

Like
"Oh hell naw Knight Diego Is goin to beat ma arse"

[woven flint]

Also, that's a poor argument because in medieval times there was literally a dude named "John Bacon"

[jolly agate]

it's just naw mate, It has no impact

[torpid hound]

I'm gonna steal that concept

[rugged hawk]

What made it funnier is they thought it was a misspelling, since all the other barrels were CLEARLY LABELED 'DYE BARREL' and that was the only one labeled 'DIE BARREL'

[woven flint]

Also, majority of standard names we've known today have roots in ancient history anyway lol

[rough basalt]

It's not medieval

[rugged hawk]

They liked the swirling colors inside it, so they couldn't resist leaping in to get rainbow armor and DIED

[brittle halo]

hey is there a place to find a party

[rough basalt]

Forgotten Realms for example is in the renaissance era more than medieval, not to mention its high fantasy

[jolly agate]

#find-a-game

[brittle halo]

thanks

[rugged hawk]

I hear good things about taverns

[jolly agate]

Dw mate

[woven flint]

Drawmij, the name of a Wizard in the circle of eight
Is literally
Jimward backwards

[jolly agate]

Jimward still has impact

[woven flint]

Otto, Rary...

[rough basalt]

Rn handcrafting the most evil boss fight for my players

Its gonna roll dice and do damage

[woven flint]

I don't understand what you mean by impact.
Folks can have normal ass names in fantasy 😭

[rugged hawk]

BBEG Warlock beaten by players turns out to be the minion of his patron, the Dungeon Mimic, whose health bar immediately appears. Then they realize why he was the Warlock of the Dungeon.

[normal canyon]

hello

[jolly agate]

Hello

[jolly agate]

Ye maybe u right ngl

[rugged hawk]

Sure, the hero of the realm, Joe the Normie, human fighter

[hidden spindle]

It would've been nice if the Wizard UA was kept the customizing Spell

[umbral girder]

Besides having a swim speed, climb speed, more that 35ft of movement, any spellcasting, and like half the skills and no expertise.

[fossil hollow]

cant forget blindsight at later levels

[umbral girder]

Free invisibility,

[woven flint]

Timothy.

[glossy sleet]

I need help thinking of an information extraction scenario.

I am doing a one-shot with a player. Her character has a noble background so she has some equal footing with aristocrats.

Here is my thought here, she needs to infiltrate a ball and find the person that could be connected to a shadow banker who funds a known domestic terrorist organization (a bhall cult?)

Interested in learning more?

[fossil hollow]

what?

[fossil hollow]

#dm-discussion

[woven flint]

D&D
Soon :3
Watah Deep

[umbral girder]

Counterspell

[fossil hollow]

Sorry, Nealen counterspelled, today's session is cancelled

[umbral girder]

Now its Firehigh

[woven flint]

Nealen, you've crossed me!
I thought we were friends 😔

[umbral girder]

Counterspell

[rugged hawk]

No, Skyhigh

[fossil hollow]

Waterdeep, Firehigh, Earthleft, Windright

[fast latch]

HAH

[fossil hollow]

Wait, not, Earthback and Windforward

whats the general theme of your Battle Smith

[fast latch]

Owlbear would be cool

I personally did Carrion Crawler

[fossil hollow]

The artificer in my Baldurs Gate game did baymax

[turbid vessel]

metal spider

[meager fractal]

metal goat

[fast latch]

How is it possible for an inflatable thing to be crafted in medieval times? Besides animal bladders

[turbid vessel]

✨ magic✨

[fast latch]

Cloth, I guess?

[meager fractal]

✨ magic✨

[fast latch]

Uhhhh…

Cockroach

Cockroaches are tough

[void crown]

what would your irl d&d stats be?

let me know if wrong channel

[fossil hollow]

Oh it was basically just baymax in armor form

[fast latch]

8 Str, 8 Dex, 10 Con, 11 Int, 7 Wis, 12 Cha

[warm shore]

DnD stats are realistically weird

Like they scale exponentially past realism past 20 I think

20 strength is a powerlifter, but any more than that is like an elephant, demigod, or dragon

[fossil hollow]

Youre already above normal at 10

[turbid vessel]

strength 10 is stronger than the average person. strength 20 is weaker than the average strongman.

at least if we take push/pull/shove weight into account

[fossil hollow]

20 * 15 is only 300 lbs

[fast latch]

How much can a 20 Str character deadlift versus a real life strongman?

[fossil hollow]

^

[fast latch]

Only 300 pounds at 20?!

[marble lion]

How would you make an npc completely disappear but return secretly as a different identity?

[fossil hollow]

The heaviest thing anyone has carried was Eddie Hall with 1,102 LBS in 2017

[warm shore]

While I love pumping up strength stat, I wish it had crazier scaling for what it actually does

[marble lion]

20str should definitely do eddie hall levels or even more

Considering its fantasy

[void crown]

oh wait i thought 10 was avarge since that adds or takes away 0

[fossil hollow]

Goliaths with Large form activated get up to 1200

[marble lion]

I tend to view 18 as the realistic peak, so 20 is that final bit of fantasy without magic or monsters

[fossil hollow]

its the average in dnd

your average commoner can lift 150 lbs

[turbid vessel]

which is considerably over the "average" person's carry weight

[fossil hollow]

Im 5 pounds over that

a dnd commoner can lift me and 5 extra

[marble lion]

That sounds normal to me

[fossil hollow]

i dunno, i cant carry my own weight

[void crown]

i mean i am 165 pounds and can do a pull up

[marble lion]

60kg distributed through backspacks etc, not all in your hand

Carryweight isnt meant to be biceps curls

[fossil hollow]

I cant remember which one is the odd one out, but push/carry/lift have the same calculations

[marble lion]

I bet you could carry your own weight

[scenic zinc]

Most people can't.

[marble lion]

Really?

[fossil hollow]

I can assure you i cannot, and i work in Framing

[void crown]

trying to think how much i used to carry to school during a 5k

[marble lion]

This doesnt sound right

[scenic zinc]

I suggest packing a hiking pack with weight equal to your weight and taking a walk for a mile or two.

[glass granite]

I can lift my body weight
But not for any reasonably long amount of time

[fossil hollow]

i think youre overestimating people

[scenic zinc]

That's essentially what carry weight is supposed to relate to.

[void crown]

actually i think most people can do that

[scenic zinc]

They can't.

[marble lion]

Actually the extended time period does change this yeah

[void crown]

before i started working out i carried my entire life on my back including 3 backpacks and a suitcase

[scenic zinc]

Okay, that's you.

[fossil hollow]

150 lbs is the amount of weight a commoner can lift comfortable for a undetermined amount of time

[marble lion]

Comfortable?

[void crown]

if i could do that but could barely do a push up back then i am sure most people if needed to could

[fossil hollow]

without encumberance

[marble lion]

Does it say comfortable?
It is the maximum

[fossil hollow]

Your size and Strength score determine the maximum weight in pounds that you can carry, as shown in the Carrying Capacity table. The table also shows the maximum weight you can drag, lift, or push.

While dragging, lifting, or pushing weight in excess of the maximum weight you can carry, your Speed can be no more than 5 feet.

[marble lion]

Hmm without encumberance, yeah thats definitely not normal then

[umbral girder]

Considering they can carry it for 8 hours a day without being slowed down I’d say yes it is comfortable

[scenic zinc]

Also, don't try to reverse game mechanics into real life or vice versa.

dnd isn't based on realism.

[void crown]

my question was suppose to just be a fun one... if you where a d&d charater what do you think your stats would be

[rough basalt]

8 in everything

[fossil hollow]

i think i was able to carry.... almost 100 lbs... so, 6 STR.
6/8/9/10/7/10

updating CHA because i forgot i DM

[void crown]

mine i think would be
strength 10 was thinking 6 but i lived with my entire life on my back for 2 years and did move with probarly 150-165 on my back daily
con - 14 i have survived a few things that i dont think i should have and dont have any allergies
dex 13? took marital arts so have fairly good reflexes
wisdom 8 or 18 depending on the day xD
int 15 maybe? come from a family with very high iq and am fairly quick on my feet thought wise
charisma a 5 i have adhd and austim and cant read a room for crap

[rough basalt]

Nah, but actually.
12/12/8/8/8/8

[fossil hollow]

pump up that CON, mr wilderness walk person

[glass granite]

5/9/10/11/6/8

[void crown]

i was mainly thinking the crap i havent eat as a kid for con

like i got bored so ate a furry goldfish off the bottom of the school bus and didnt feel a thing all day

[turbid vessel]

difficult to quanitfy all this cause all 6 attributes IRL are far too varied to be measured on a discrete 1-20 scale

[void crown]

thats fair but this is suppose to be fun doesnt need to be exact

[turbid vessel]

what if my fun is being exact as possible

[void crown]

then get those decimals out i want to see .00000000000001 on something

xD

[turbid vessel]

what if my crystalized intelligence is higher than my fluid intelligence

or vice versa

[void crown]

that is wisdom vs intelligence

also ice mage is thinking hard about this

[mystic summit]

If anyone is looking for players plz tell me I'm looking in the looking for players thing and there ain't nothing rn

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[shadow vapor]

why is there no slime based warlock, Jublix is right there.

[mystic summit]

Undead might work

[normal canyon]

just homebrew it

[limber trail]

Jubilex is already a warlock patron

[shadow vapor]

for which warlock?

[limber trail]

As a Demon Lord, he's a Fiend Patron

[normal canyon]

my spelling sucks today

[shadow vapor]

dang*

[shadow vapor]

but like that's dumb, the lord of slimes and ooze and he gives me some luck sometimes, I wanna be gross.

[normal canyon]

My dm did a rat patron

[shadow vapor]

my current warlock has a cat patron.

[lusty tendon]

so im making a warlock where they have a polearm master and war caster combo, to do some battle field control, is their a way to gain more than 1 reaction per turn

[fossil hollow]

Jubi can also be a GOOlock

[shadow vapor]

magic items only

[lusty tendon]

the only one i can think of is the caveliar fighter subclass but thats at 18th level

[shadow vapor]

there is no spell that can do that, not even haste which is weird.

[fossil hollow]

technically true polymorph can give you more reactions

Marilith

[shadow vapor]

true

[lusty tendon]

do you know what magical item? or would it be fairly homebrew

[shadow vapor]

uhhhhhh

[lusty tendon]

its ok if you dont know on the top of your head

[shadow vapor]

I know theres like one.

I don't know the name I think it's like a hat or something.

[fossil hollow]

Bloody Marilith, but its a third party magic item and consumable potion

[lusty tendon]

i looked it up only with true polymorph into marilith can you gain more reactions

[shadow vapor]

oh yeah

that Griffion one.

[normal canyon]

Vigilant Defender

[fossil hollow]

where is that from? Is that the Steel Defender thing?

[normal canyon]

caveliar fighter subclass

level 18

[fossil hollow]

oh thats what its called. I thought it was something else

[lusty tendon]

i mean im not making a reaction based build but that would be a fun idea

just on the side, as it would be nice to have more than 1 reactions to counterspell then instantly blast anyone who gets near me

[rugged hawk]

Mass Counterspell is just reaction-casting Antimagic Shell /s

[modest gyro]

Idk if they were like.. removed? But werent there a race called Ursine? I can barely find anythin on them, but they were a thing, right?

[fossil hollow]

the only one that came to mind is the cooked moon one?

[undone rain]

Hm a bear race

Why didnt we have this thats awesome

[modest gyro]

I played one on minimal info.. I loved it, a polarbear man

But i want more info so i can actually flesh him out and offer him for campaigns

[fast latch]

It should be pretty easy to homebrew

Darkvision, Powerful Build, 1d6+Str natural Bite weapon, Perception proficiency, Polar, Black, and Grizzly subraces

[vestal belfry]

I’m not sure if anyone else feels this way, but:

I really miss when D&D was this fun game that you’d gather your buddies for weekly and you’d just joke around and play for the fun of it. Now it feels like so many take it too far, kill the spirit of the game, and make it unfun for everyone, by turning it into a power fantasy power trip. Rather than treating it as a collaborative/team based/cooperative game.

[turbid vessel]

i used to feel that way. then i stopped playing with power trippers. life is better now

[vestal belfry]

It seems like everyone I come across is a power tripper lately. 😭 Or they blow the group up over some petty drama—

[marble lion]

Then you need me. Im literally the greatest player and always right

[proven nova]

Quite surprising. Not in terms of the blow it up part, but that I was afraid I would bring more drama and as such I was worried that I needed to leave.

Admittedly, I was being a bit dumb when that happened.

[fast latch]

Yeah, I have that problem

One of my players is way better at the game than everyone else and when we get into PVP (Don’t worry, the players like it) he beats them up easily

[proven nova]

Solution: do not have PvP.

I would not recommend putting that in the game; the goal is to work together.

[rugged hawk]

The goal is to work together to PK the DM's favorite NPC

[proven nova]

Critical Role and all its consequences. Or rather, the lack of recognition for what exactly made it so successful in the first place and why that’s hard to replicate and place as the standard.

You can’t always expect a game to have roleplay that good or stakes that high.

Can still have an interesting story, it will never be that scale of grandiose though.

[marble lion]

Oh dont blame cr for this one come on

[proven nova]

Unless you’re like a pro DM for someone.

[proven nova]

Listen again: that is not what I am doing.

[marble lion]

Bring em up when ppl demand too much work from a dm or player

[proven nova]

……………

Reread what I said.

[marble lion]

I see the continued thought here and its good

But you did start it with "cr all its consequences"

I read that part too

[jovial badger]

hey everyone! hosting my first ever game (one shot) for my dnd group next week. was thinking of setting the party level somewhere from 3-4, could yall take a look at my final boss and give me advice (he has some abilities in the notes section) www.dndbeyond.com/characters/162374050/SBDeux

[marble lion]

Also cr has a whole lot of pretty normal stakes tbh and the roleplay is only better through consistency id say, theyre not constantly putting out amazing acting

The one thing i will say they really hit out of the park is the personal inbetween but that often ends up awkward too

[proven nova]

I was attempting to say it made UNINTENTIONAL consequences. I do not think that any one of the players nor the dm intended for it to become a big thing nor did they expect others to live up to their standard; other people made it that way and that was the consequence of them, not the cast.

[fast latch]

Yeah I know but at this point the PCs Expect it

Felix (Tabaxi Battle Master) actually wants to freaking murder Deadpool (VHuman I forgot Fighter)

[broken imp]

it's cool but is the boss for lv3-4

[proven nova]

You can put your foot down

You don’t NEED to do what your players expect if you feel it is causing a lack of cohesion.

[jovial badger]

i dont know, looking for advice on that

[rugged hawk]

I do, often. On goblins, gnomes, hobbitses, and dorfs.

[proven nova]

I would not say the stakes are normal. Some plots involve the destruction of WORLD stuff. Current D&D may have more of that, but even Baldur’s Gate III (and I know, it is a game) did not have as big of a plot that went everywhere. It was mostly restricted to the areas near Baldur’s Gate and the city itself. It’s not we suddenly pivot over to Neverwinter to go help Lord Neverember fend off a cult or go to Waterdeeo to duel The Mad Mage.

[marble lion]

Fair cr usually ends in a world threat
But so would many campaigns at lvl 20

[proven nova]

The reason why I think Matt is skilled enough to pull it off is because he is generally someone who thinks very good on his feet.

[marble lion]

Bg ends at 12

[cobalt owl]

Mercer has a very specific talent and experience that let's him do what he does

[marble lion]

Yeah i just dont think what was said above has much to do with this unintended and often overblown consequence of cr

[cobalt owl]

A lot of folks try and do a mercer without having what makes mercer mercer

[marble lion]

I think plenty of people can be as good as him

[proven nova]

This is what I meant.

[marble lion]

The most impressive part to me is the weekly delivery all year

That is the impressive part
Per session hes good good but so are others

[cobalt owl]

They can be as good as him, I would be remiss to say all of them can be, and furthermore immediately or quickly at that

[proven nova]

Plus, should people even be concerned with the next Mercer? Fame takes its toll, Y’know. I’d rather be happy and obscure than famous and miserable.

[cobalt owl]

I also think Mercer is very good and there's a lot to learn from him, but his stuff isn't the only one that works

[proven nova]

Not to mention, imo someone should focus on being the next themself. It’s more productive.

It’s called Self Improvement.

[cobalt owl]

I also think sometimes the mercer thing isn't the best thing for everything either

[proven nova]

And it’s a very good method at combatting your mind comparing yourself to everyone else.

[marble lion]

Agreed but saying "next mercer" doesnt have to mean being like him

I assume it just means being a rockstar of the ttrpg they love

[cobalt owl]

No but I do see a lot of folks trying to be him

[proven nova]

This is also something I was referring to.

[marble lion]

I have yet to see it....

[cobalt owl]

I've already seen it

[marble lion]

The only one ive ever met who seems kinda like that is my friend who never does dnd but often hails him as god of dnd

[rugged hawk]

I can't take the name Mercer seriously. Too much Skyrim thieves guild PTSD.

[crimson gulch]

The Mercer effect is I have a job running games, it's amazing

[marble lion]

Running these ancient dnd modules is easy, just need to know the trick

[proven nova]

Well, if you feel happy doing that it is most certainly good on you.

[proven nova]

He’s no god; he’s a man.

[marble lion]

Im very aware

[crimson gulch]

What's crazy about critical role is how much of it there is.

The Simpsons has been on since 1989. 37 seasons.

If you hit play on the very first episode of the Simpsons and the first episode of critical role you would run out of Simpsons and then have thousands of hours of critical role left

[marble lion]

Thousands?

[proven nova]

…………I doubt that.

[marble lion]

Isnt one campaign like 800

But it is definitely crazy how much there is still

[umbral girder]

There is also the side content too

[marble lion]

As i said, the impressive thing about mercer, and players, is consistency

[umbral girder]

One shots and their smaller stuff

[crimson gulch]

202 hours of simpsons over 1600 of critical role

[umbral girder]

Nearly 8x

[glacial gust]

Wow

[fast latch]

Damn

[rugged hawk]

No, I mean, Mercer was the traitorous thieves guild master's name in Skyrim, so I can't take the name seriously anymore

[umbral girder]

Voiced by the guy from Thief (video game)

[rugged hawk]

I only played Thief III

[marble lion]

I know. That was a quote from mercer frey, replacing nord doors with modules

Its at snowveil sanctuary while he picks the lock

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, right before you get shot.

[marble lion]

The worst part is that he voices 2 characters, important ones, in the same storyline

[umbral girder]

Amusing idea I had, trying to outsmart an eldritch horror is like a D&D character (not the player) thinking they are outsmarting the DM and their Player.

[marble lion]

So not 1000s left

Shocked simpsons is only 200 hours but i guess theyre shorter than i thought, never watched it myself

[umbral girder]

Nearly 1600 hours of CR I believe with just their main campaigns.

[marble lion]

I actually thought it was 2000 something

I must have been counting my time watching, not total duration
Because ive watched 1 and 2 twice now

[river vector]

I got inspired by this book I read. Now I will make a broke dragon that lost the hoard due to gambling debts.

working with BBEG to get the money back

[blissful glen]

hello im new and im very lost how do i join a game

[marble lion]

Did you read #find-a-game

[blissful glen]

i did, what should i put?

[hushed mason]

re-read the section that says "join as a player"

[blissful glen]

thank you

[umbral girder]

This is interesting mainly at what creature can make a dragon gamble that much and enforce their debts?

[hushed mason]

Some kind of djinn.

[river vector]

maybe some faerie casino or something

[fast latch]

I agree with Zanaris

FAIRIES!

[echo meteor]

i think 3 hour sessions once a week for d&d is the magic number

any longer and it feels like it drags on

also, rune knight fairies r da best

the small fairy creature can become large THEN it can cast enlarge on itself using its racial and become gigantic

[rough basalt]

I agree that 3 hours is the magic number

It's not too short, and not too long.

[feral fulcrum]

I did a Rune Knight/Paladin Fairy Gestalt once. Daughter of a Fire Giant and a Spring Noble knockoff of Queen Marika from Elden Ring.

4 is more the magic Number for Text games, because text is slower and needs the extra time.

[echo meteor]

did u make urself gigantic with your racial + rune night trait?

[feral fulcrum]

Huge, yes. Also took feats to give myself Alchemist tool profficency to keep myself stocked up with Potions of Growth.

[echo meteor]

lol so potion, enlarge, subclass. NICE

[feral fulcrum]

No, Potion and Enlarge don't stack as they're the same effect.

[echo meteor]

they don’t!?!

wtf i thought they did

[feral fulcrum]

Potions apply the effect via the Enlarge part of Enlarge/Reduce, and such effects don't stack.

[remote wadi]

Oh, boy. A bigger target for my iron arrows

Actually... why doesn't making a character larger also make them easier to hit?

[feral fulcrum]

There's only one size increasing item that stacks with Enalrge, and it's a cape from the second Phandelvers adventure book

[feral fulcrum]

Because 5E Simplied lots of things.

Older Editions, such as 3.5E, accounted for such things.

[remote wadi]

I'm listening

[feral fulcrum]

Being bigger made you easier to hit, but increased strength, had size based Damage die, etc.

Much more Crunchy, older editions were.

[echo meteor]

cause ac isn’t “hard to hit” it’s also “hard to deal damage to”… like a literal tank is huge… but you can’t exactly penetrate its armor with arrows no matter how big it is

[feral fulcrum]

To both their benefit, and detriment. Don't ask me why they needed no less then three different kinds of AC for Touch, Flat-footed, and normal.

[river vector]

Perhaps the Dragon gambled too much with the faerie court, lost all the gold that way?

The idea of a bunch of gambling fae is hilarious

[umbral girder]

Clearly the magic number is 3 hours sessions 8 times a day 7 days a week /jk

[rough basalt]

You know what? You right

[echo meteor]

3 hour sessions a day once a week is GREAT. plenty of time to prepare for next week… AND it discourages the players from doing screwing around doing nothing, because they’ll get literally nowhere… and need to wait until next week to advance the plot

[rough basalt]

Also, I think before my inkarnate runs out, I should map out the ocean for my world.

[echo meteor]

though, i’ve heard of horror stories where the players just spent the entire 8 hour sessions to open a single door

[rough basalt]

Cause somethings been brought to my attention that gonna need a bit of sailing and under da sea for.

[feral fulcrum]

The Dread Pull to Open door, is up there with the mighty DREAD GAZEBO.

[rough basalt]

The Dread Gazebo will always be one of the best stories

[normal canyon]

Hellooo.

[umbral girder]

Thinking about the Broom fight I had against Sora.

[fossil hollow]

Party is fighting Manshoon rn, he's not doing well

[umbral girder]

Somehow the Broom survived the level 15 player throwing all his attacks at it. (Cr1/2)

[umbral girder]

Use the clones

Kill him and he walks in from another room next round

[fossil hollow]

It his his simulacrum rn

[rough basalt]

I still can't believe it.

I rolled a 2 and 1 against the dreaded broom of doom

Animated Objects are probably some of the most fun early monsters to use

Cause you can really spook people with some animated objects which usually turns to laughter

[umbral girder]

The Broom is known for causing TPKs so you got to see its curse carry over to tier 3 I guess.

[rough basalt]

I await the day I see PCs die in Death House

[rugged hawk]

I was particularly a fan of Animated Chairs, because they visually stacked, so no one could tell if there was just ONE chair attacking, or TWENTY, right up until the combat log showed all the chairs rolling to attack.

[normal canyon]

I’ve quite literally been dropped to 0 hp by a wooden stool. A inanimate wooden stool.

It did 27 damage to my poor soul.

[umbral girder]

I wonder if I should do CoS after Eve of Ruin.

[rough basalt]

I wanna use some Animated Objects now

[umbral girder]

Well “my version” of CoS with the supplemental stuff

[rough basalt]

Specifically I wanna beat up some level 1s with some brooms.

[umbral girder]

Shame you guys didn’t fight the Broom that was the same Cr as an Adult Dragon

[rough basalt]

The Greater Broom

[umbral girder]

Greater Broom lies waiting still

[rugged hawk]

Another summoner I had used illusionary monsters. Her favorite was Summoned Dancing Lights, which could all stack within each other since they had no physical form. She could summon 14 of them. Then they'd advance as a singular doomstack looking totally harmless until the enemy took 14 attacks per round from them.

[feral fulcrum]

I'm suddenly and randomly remidned that my DM has a really old Githyanki Battlemech frozen in ice in a secret basement of the Church of Bahamut. (It's effectively Radiocative because it taps into the Positive Energy Plane, and leaks a bunch.)

[rough basalt]

You know what'd be hilarious? A level 1 pc dying instantly to an Animated Broom

[feral fulcrum]

It's only funny if it promptly sweeps their corpse out of the building.

[rugged hawk]

That's not hilarious, that's horrifying. We had a whole dungeon based on animated furniture. The Animated Boots were honestly the worst of it, though, they had really high damage and some DR.

[rough basalt]

Sweeps dust onto them as a taunt

The level 1 Wizard when the animated gun points at them

[umbral girder]

I am sure you don’t have any level 1 parties you can torture with evil brooms /jk

[rough basalt]

Nah certainly not

[umbral girder]

None at all. Totally none.

No level 1 parties in any magic cities

[rough basalt]

I do have a level 5 party, with a Fighter I'm gonna beat down next session

[woven flint]

WHAT, this guy STINKS (Manshoon)

[rough basalt]

Tokii gonna end up getting domain expansioned by the dungeon boss

[echo meteor]

what do yall think about strixhaven?

[rough basalt]

DnD Hogwarts

[echo meteor]

thinking about it after doing shattered obelisk

apparently ppl say it’s bad?

[rough basalt]

I don't think it's bad per se.
Just not all it could be.

If you really want the "magic school" experience you'll need to get some third party stuff

[echo meteor]

interesting

[rough basalt]

And if you don't then there's no real point.

Lost the art for my one countries empress so had to piccrew something.

I need to do better at storing my stuff.

[feral fulcrum]

Strixhaven wasn't all that well thought out. Which makes sense since it was kind of a low effort MTG Tie In more then anything

[rough basalt]

Ye kinda just tried to make money off HP fans that are dnd players

[umbral girder]

It isn’t bad. It’s Mid.

[rough basalt]

It's got a beautiful alt cover tho, so glad I managed to get it.

Sniping alt covers whenever I can off Amazon has been nice

[umbral girder]

The LGSs near me got a lot of alt covers

[low talon]

where do I ask questions for 3rd party content?

[rough basalt]

#third-party

[low talon]

Thanks. I couldn't see it on the side

[rough basalt]

Got Vecna, Quests, Strixhaven, and now Eberron: FotA

Quests is especially beautiful

The white book with Nafas, the noble genie on it.

Oh and the Alt box sets for Planescape and BoMT

I like the Lady of Pain artwork on the alt box

[echo meteor]

Vecna feels like a pushover for a level 20 party tbh

[rough basalt]

He is

[umbral girder]

If he stays in melee yep.

[echo meteor]

i think a normal lich with actual wizard spells would pull off a better fight

[umbral girder]

If not then he is a nightmare.

[rough basalt]

One of the biggest complaints I've heard about EoR is that it's not very consistent with difficulty

[marble lion]

Isnt strixhaven one of the most popular dnd things to run

[umbral girder]

Vecna has the Strahd issue of “if run properly they are stupid dangerous or stupid easy if not.”

[echo meteor]

isn’t a regular lich with legendary/lair action just stronger than vecna?

[umbral girder]

Nah

[feral fulcrum]

WOTC has never been particuarly adept with Difficulty in any adventure as far as I'm aware.

[umbral girder]

Main thing Vecna has is his ability to run off, make a zombie as an action, heal 80hp as a bonus action while recharging his big AOE

[echo meteor]

he can just instantly down someone with power word kill

[hazy timber]

I just watched the new ted episode, based on dnd it was pretty good

[umbral girder]

PWK can’t instant down people unless they are below 100 hp

[echo meteor]

does his lair have a bunch of dead bodies?

[rough basalt]

I think he can just make them appear

[umbral girder]

Yep

[rough basalt]

The vecna alt cover is pretty cool

[echo meteor]

dm can always just make more zombies appear in the liches lair though

[umbral girder]

I did see a DnD beyond article for a one shot that gave him the lair action to summon Shadows which is neat.

[rough basalt]

Yeah but a new Lich abides by the new Counterspell rules

Vecna uses the old, and his negates 4th and below

[umbral girder]

They also do auto damage too

[rough basalt]

And gets 3 a round.

Cause he was made during the "testing removal of LAs" era

[umbral girder]

Odd time to be testing it with their big adventure.

[rough basalt]

Ye I think Planescape started it iirc

[echo meteor]

ah, liches in 2024 don’t get actual spell slots now 😭

[rough basalt]

Then Book of Many, Quests and Vecna have it

[umbral girder]

Does the Book of Many Things have it?

[rough basalt]

Pretty sure

[umbral girder]

Didn’t see that. I know Planescape definitely does

[past blaze]

TBH I think the "removal of LAs" idea was a bit silly. But still, the addition of pseudo-legendary Reactions, is cool. You don't always have to remove something, to add something new.

[umbral girder]

Notably removing spell slots now lets them ignore the “1 leveled spell a round” rules now.

[rough basalt]

I might be misrememberinh

I know Quests does cause Nafas has the 3 reactions

Ah BoMT didn't use the 3 reaction system

[marble lion]

My big villain definitely summons shadows

[fossil hollow]

BoMT has LAs yeah

[marble lion]

But he will never see the light of day....

Probably for the best as a vampire

[past blaze]

I enjoy the expansion and even occasional hybridization of systems

[rough basalt]

The main issue with 3 reaction system was spells that removed reactions

[echo meteor]

maybe, it’s as bit harder to just swap around prepared spells and just do high level wizard shinegans when playing a lich though 😭

[past blaze]

Because after all, reactions require a specific trigger, whereas legendary actions can't really interrupt anything.

[rough basalt]

Like a 2014 caster running up and shocking grasping vecna then Misty stepping out then everyone just pummels him with spells

[past blaze]

This too. I guess there could be a clause, like "an effect that prevents taking reactions instead removes 1 reaction" would fix it.

[umbral girder]

Counter spell moment.

(Unless it’s a quickened Shocking Grasp :))

[rough basalt]

Also I think part of why it was opposed was it was too boring

[echo meteor]

does vecna wear metal armor?

[fossil hollow]

No

[rough basalt]

Nah, he doesn't wear anything

[echo meteor]

so no advantage

[fossil hollow]

He just has metal components

[past blaze]

Which could be gotten in other ways

[fossil hollow]

Like, hit ribcage is gilded

[echo meteor]

also, if anything… why the heck does 2024 archmage not prepare shield/mage armor. it’s like they want to die 😭

[rough basalt]

Cause they have it through protective magic

[umbral girder]

They do have Shield

[rough basalt]

Or well shield anyway

[echo meteor]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/5194902-archmage?srsltid=AfmBOopnMyvJ-Ip7yMZxVLOMbbBeAcPDxFz4hfShRAn7iDAdDn5obhS2

[umbral girder]

It’s on their stat block.

Yeah I have it’s they got Shield and Counterspell on their spells

[rough basalt]

And they do have mage armor on

[echo meteor]

oh i see it now!!

[umbral girder]

It’s under Reactions

[rough basalt]

It's automatically accounted in their AC

[echo meteor]

rip i’m blind

[umbral girder]

Also Mage Armor is At Will on the stat block too.

[rough basalt]

The 9th level Cone of Cold is scary

[past blaze]

yeah mage armor is at will and included in AC
wait how is 13+2 coming out to 17

[umbral girder]

It’s meant to imply Robe of the Arch Magi without actually having it on the statblock is my guess

Since they also got Magic resistance

[rough basalt]

So you don't just get a free legendary item for killing them

[umbral girder]

That too

[echo meteor]

high level wizards are just fun to play 😛

[rough basalt]

Since you can fight an Archmage around level 5 or so

[fossil hollow]

yeah, the Archmage seems to be adding a pseudo Robe of the Magi on them

[past blaze]

yeah except this mystery +2 AC isn't in the statblock

[umbral girder]

Yeah so is the Magic resistance either.

But they just have it as a feature.

Monsters ≠ Players in stats.

[rough basalt]

But the robes give you 15+dex and magic resistance so

So what they actually have is the Robe of the Archmage Armor

[past blaze]

there is no data in the statblock that actually specifies why it is so.

[fossil hollow]

yeap

[umbral girder]

A lot of monsters have that

Like a lot a lot

[fossil hollow]

many of the monsters in 2024 kinda have unexplained bonuses (since the AC no longer specifies stuff like Natural Armor)

[umbral girder]

Probably a majority of monsters in 2014 and 2025 in fact have it

[echo meteor]

hmm level 5 players can fight archmage?

[fossil hollow]

its a Deadly fight, but yeah

[umbral girder]

I’ve done it

[rough basalt]

As long as they designate a special sacrifice

[past blaze]

anything can technically fight anything

a fair fight is another story

[rough basalt]

The 20hp bard to be hit by the 9th level cone of cold

He will be missed.

[echo meteor]

hope they don’t lose initiative, and the whole party doesn’t get 9th level cone of colded

[umbral girder]

+7 Initiative bonus moment

[rough basalt]

Tbh you just need 2 things

Archmage rolls bad, and you pass the save.

[feral fulcrum]

Just get Lucky.

[echo meteor]

true, but it’s an instant loss with a bad roll

[umbral girder]

Play a white Dragonborn

[rough basalt]

Then don't roll bad

[umbral girder]

Or have a good con save

[wanton raft]

Playing my first D&D game today

[feral fulcrum]

Only about 80% of you will be dead by the time the Archmage is. But that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

[umbral girder]

Or play a Barbarian

[wanton raft]

Not nervous at all. Definitely not

[wanton raft]

Can they win it?

[rough basalt]

I'm kinda afraid now that I'm in t2 as a dm again

Cause last time I was in t2 as a dm, I one shotted a player and he quit

[umbral girder]

meanwhile I got two games in tier 4 and one in tier 3

[echo meteor]

rip, u killed their baby

[rough basalt]

Yeah it was brutal

[echo meteor]

that they spent months leveling up after many sessions

[rough basalt]

I attacked them three times with a Necromancy Wizard (MPMM)

[echo meteor]

no revivify??

[rough basalt]

The rolls were
20,20,19 (natural)

[echo meteor]

T2 should have a ample resurrections

[rough basalt]

Nah

[echo meteor]

they didn’t prepare?

[rough basalt]

The party was a Warlock/Fighter multiclass, Ranger (one who died), Fighter, and Paladin.

And they were level 6

[echo meteor]

ahh… well, that’s the problem! no one knew revivify

[rough basalt]

Yep I almost crit him three times in a row, and both crits and the regular hit did near max damage

So he took well over 100 damage

[feral fulcrum]

Not a particuraly mature player if they immediately quit over that.

[echo meteor]

idk, ppl get attached to their characters quite a bit

[rough basalt]

20d10 Necrotic and he was the only party member without Necrotic resistance

[umbral girder]

Had a similar moment with a guy who got 1 shotted by the Archer NPC. They have a feature that lets them add 1d10 to an attack similar to 2024 smite spells

He got very mad when the NPC used their “smite” like ability on a crit

[feral fulcrum]

And there a hundred more mature ways of handling the loss then ragequitting the group.

[rough basalt]

Found a screenshot of it, it was 188 damage total

He didn't just get obliterated. He got reduced to atoms.

[past blaze]

doesn't archer "prep" it? Not on-hit?

[umbral girder]

No it’s on a hit

Use their bonus action but is on a hit.

[echo meteor]

ehh rangers suck anyways

[umbral girder]

It’s specifically says “Immediately after an attack roll”

[past blaze]

ah

[rough basalt]

Yeah just checked.
"Immediately after an attack or damage roll"

[umbral girder]

So Nat 20 happened so they added a d10 that became 2d10

[rough basalt]

Tbh the death was probably not the main reason

[feral fulcrum]

The Difference between Force is Force is basically Magic Damage, and Bludgeoning is hitting a guy with a blunt object.