dnd-discussion

[rough basalt]

I think it was solid

[burnt dune]

I've noticed a lot of people who prefer to use drow as an aesthetic rather than the full package of trauma and I've always thought the way the drow were introduced had a big role in that, curious about other opinions

[tough sandal]

Then you must understand my sadness when the Drow player had to leave my campaign for life reasons. Her backstory fully integrated the Drow societal expectations as an active member. 😭

[rain fox]

hey guys

[glass granite]

Wahzzup

[rain fox]

doin good hows everyone, and also yeah il confirm, my bio is indeed correct

[storm wraith]

why are celestial warlocks still seen as the healer class?

[fossil hollow]

because the subclass literally gets healing

[reef tundra]

I didn’t know they were seen as the “healer class”

I can see how they’d be known as the “healer subclass” though

But their healing is pretty good. Mostly because they can’t not upcast it ofc

[burnt dune]

i write as drow characters, i might have seen a lot

[reef tundra]

I love drow too much

When a Duergar does something horrific, it’s “oh you monster, die”
But when a drow does something horrific it’s “aww my little evil preciouses did something terrible again! 🥰”

[indigo delta]

I ended up just rewriting my backstory :(

It was either that or not playing

[humble cairn]

DM didn't approve?

[indigo delta]

Nope, I literally just had to lie that I used AI to make him happy

[pliant sapphire]

That's sad

[jolly narwhal]

You had to make an AI backstory to make your DM happy?

[knotty pasture]

Yknow it'd be funny if you offer to screen share with him as he watches you type

[humble cairn]

That needs a little unpacking, what happened and why?

[indigo delta]

He thinks I used AI, so I had to tell him I did(which is a lie)

[jolly narwhal]

Oh wow.. That feels like a yikes.

[humble cairn]

Your DM thought you used AI, which made it unacceptable, but then you said you used AI .. and it was acceptable? This is confusing.

[indigo delta]

So I spent a couple days writing a backstory for my character, I send it in to my DM, he says it’s AI, we argue back and forth, he threatens to kick me out if I don’t come forward

[jolly narwhal]

Geez, I don't want to sound mean but I personally would have left after that.

[fossil hollow]

yeah...

[humble cairn]

Yeah maybe it's better you don't join this table.

[indigo delta]

I honestly want to leave, but my college isn’t very dnd friendly and there aren’t any other groups playing

[hot gate]

Don't make me say it. No D&D is better than bad D&D

[jolly narwhal]

Would you rather only do it in person? I learned to prefer online D&D more. It has more liberties

[jolly narwhal]

[indigo delta]

I’m in an online group which is fun, but I haven’t played irl in way too long and I feel like I need to

[fossil hollow]

no lgs with groups playing there?

[jolly narwhal]

That's fair. I always liked the clacking of the dice. It's why I always play with my dice when DMing online

[still plover]

Personally I would laugh if someone genuinely thought I'd used a fancy autocomplete for my backstory. But I agree, that's a bit of a warning sign about that DM.

[indigo delta]

I know our motto is essentially be friendly, but Texas is not very friendly with dnd

[fossil hollow]

oh interesting

[indigo delta]

If he gets controlling, I’ll dip 100%

[lyric viper]

As much as I'd rather avoid AI use entirely in my games and I can respect someone banning it from their table, but the real point of the backstory is- does the player know it? Does it help them? Is it intergrated into the plot and story?

[fossil hollow]

wait, texas isnt- oh yeah, my texan friends played mostly mtg there... not dnd

[jolly narwhal]

I always thought the DM should be there to help the players make their backgrounds to fit the story the DM had.

[limber trail]

I've started running more of my games with physical dice. It can be really fun for RP sequences but I prefer digital dice for combat specifically for a number of reasons.

[limber trail]

it varies from DM to DM and player to player

[jolly narwhal]

True. Too many numbers, especially as DM fries my brain

[limber trail]

I ran a CR 15 physically the other day and counting damage dice made my brain hurt

[jolly narwhal]

Fair

[limber trail]

critting and dealing like 4d6 + 6d8 bludgeoning or something like that

[jolly narwhal]

That's too many numbers to count

[limber trail]

it's so many

it took ages when I was making three attacks a turn

[jolly narwhal]

I could only imagine how much longer combat must be from just counting the dice alone.

[limber trail]

I know a lot of physical DMs use average damage for some attacks

which makes some sense to me

[jolly narwhal]

That's smart

[indigo delta]

He just kicked me, fml yall were right

[limber trail]

It's not my favourite practice but I get it

[jolly narwhal]

Wait, seriously? Any reason or just out right did it?

[limber trail]

Doesn't sound like a great DM. You dodged a bullet.

[knotty pasture]

Yeah I think dude is just looking for a reason to kick

[jolly narwhal]

Ye, you're much better off finding someone better if they're willing to dump players like that.

[indigo delta]

“You made me stay up until 3am arguing”

[jolly narwhal]

What a jerk

[indigo delta]

I’m getting the other guys to leave as well 🙄

[knotty pasture]

That has the same energy as an online troll saying its all the winner's fault cuz the winner wasted the troll's time arguing about something

[still plover]

Make your own group!

[limber trail]

this guy does not sound like a pleasant person to play with. It should be a collaborative game. Nobody has that much power over anyone else

[indigo delta]

I can’t dm to save my life 🫠

[jolly narwhal]

This is why I learned to be friends with people first before doing D&D with them. It saves you lotsa time.

And from headaches.

[fossil hollow]

also, they chose to stay up arguing

[limber trail]

It's very fair to not want to but I will say, DMing is a skill you can learn and get better at. Every good DM used to be a terrible DM

[jolly narwhal]

Ye, they really were just fishing for a reason to kick someone. Terrible DM.

[indigo delta]

That’s literally what I said 😭

[rain fox]

actually let me be simple in front of you: im trans (more like me trying it for about 9 weeks online to see if i'd like it or not but get the point) your welcome

[jolly narwhal]

I wouldn't say a terrible DM. We all started like headless chickens. Terrible DMs would be DMs who never learn or get better.

[rain fox]

anyways, DM yes is a skill, i mean heck i havent even tried

[limber trail]

(I know but that's not the point that needs to be made rn)

[rain fox]

then say the point!

[indigo delta]

I’ve tried dming multiple times, I just genuinely cannot do it

[limber trail]

...I did

[indigo delta]

I’ve resorted to ragebaiting him 😔

Lwk funny asf tho

[jolly narwhal]

Oooh. True.

[indigo delta]

He will get no sleep tonight if I have any say in the matter

[limber trail]

Is it a case where you want to DM but just aren't good at it, or are you just not interested in DMing in general?

[indigo delta]

I have wanted to in the past but wasn’t good. I have this stupid thing where if I’m not immediately above average at something, I tend to drop it

[tawdry sentinel]

Basically everything now the campaigns higher level.

Both of these enemies make 3 attacks at advantage that each do 2d8+3.

Nobody wants to sit there and watch me do math for 2 minutes every round.

[pliant sapphire]

I want

[inner silo]

Probably still faster then the fighters turn

[glad arch]

Rolling dice is the fun part

[tawdry sentinel]

Especially if it's something that does like 2d4 slashing and 3d6 poison and I have to fumble around to find the right dice.

On an individual roll it's whatever.

But if there's 4 different enemies that all use different dice combinations. You can resolve all their attacks in under a minute with average damage.

[glad arch]

More the merrier

[glad arch]

But thats fair

[hollow dragon]

I can’t find the dms channel anyone know where it is?

[tawdry sentinel]

#dm-discussion

[hollow dragon]

Thanks

[burnt dune]

felt — we get into their skin

[cyan narwhal]

I guess it's because Drows are sexier than Duergars lol

[marble lion]

Some dms are pretty decent from the getgo

With enough prep and exposure to dnd, youll run a game above terrible for sure

But most likely slow on the rolls and there will be some weird balance to the game most likely

Not terrible though

[reef tundra]

Very very true

[vernal owl]

hey guys, should i focus on utility/control spells or damaging spells as a sorcerer if my character is the only spellcaster in the party?

[reef tundra]

Try to get a good balance of both

But make sure you have at least 1 consistent AOE spell

[cyan narwhal]

Aka fireball lol

[reef tundra]

Yeah pretty much

Your martial allies will be good at taking down opponents one on one but against large groups they can get easily overwhelmed, make sure you have AOE spells to control the space and take care of crowds

[vernal owl]

ah we're level 2 rn, i have sleep, burning hands, magic missile, detect magic for my 1st level spells and ray of frost, frightful start, message and sorcerous burst for my cantrips

[reef tundra]

Very good choices

[knotty pasture]

Control, unless your team is lacking in damage, but Sorc has quite a fair amount of control options

[vernal owl]

planning to take fireball when i get access to it, it will probably be my character's go to spell

[knotty pasture]

I think you should pack Absorb Elements somewhere

[glass granite]

Yeah I was gonna suggest absorb elements or shield

Oh really? Didn’t know that.
Yeah absorb elements is the way to go then

[knotty pasture]

Wait nvm brain fart, they do get shield

[vernal owl]

we have a barbarian, monk and monster hunter so i dont think we need more damage, i really wanna pick the charming and mind spells but we're playing curse of strahd and im unsure if those will help with undead and stuff lmao

[glass granite]

I thought so

[knotty pasture]

Grab Web

[vernal owl]

i did get magic initiate wizard from my background and picked mage armor, should i still get shield?

[glass granite]

You don’t have a reaction spell, and shield is VERY nice to have, so I’d say yes

[vernal owl]

alrightt ill get it on the next level up

thank you for the tips everyone :D

[jovial badger]

Hi everyone!
Just got approved to host a one shot for my dnd group next week!
Any suggestions? (my first time dming!)

[hot gate]

Peril in Pinebrook is a very cute adventure setup and a quick read. You can flesh it out with a map and some more encounters if time allows for it.

[limpid lake]

Hey, could I have some help looking for a d&d group in Aus? I can’t find any times here that would work for me and am struggling to find a group

[limber trail]

They’re out there but it’s a tough process to find them. You could try starting a group but it isn’t everyone’s preference

[limpid lake]

Thank you, I would rather find a group as I don’t exactly have the skills to start a group 😅

But i’ll keep looking

[still plover]

Oh, they're out there.

Don't forget, it doesn't matter if it's your morning and someone else's evening if you can all get on together. Good luck!

[limber trail]

The most recent game advertised is at a pretty good time at least for my corner of Australia

[still plover]

Might be worth also raising a post in #looking-for-dm.

[limpid lake]

The one stating saturday?

[limpid lake]

I was a little nervous posting public but I guess I might as well, thank you

[storm wraith]

other question: what do you think about "lawfull evil" -

Celestial warlock -> "Im on a Holy mission - The Mission is above everything else, no matter what. "

[stiff rock]

i imagine lawful evil to be someone who's an ass but they still operate within the law

i may be wrong however "this thing i'm doing comes above all else and literally nothing will get in my way" sounds more chaotic

maybe evil chaotic good if their quest is a noble one

[storm wraith]

hm... i had thougt more about the "holy crussader" - the type of paladin/celestial warlock who says "I am here to enforce Asrael’s word, not to question it.“

[stiff rock]

yeah i'd probably say lawful evil then

they're doing awful stuff but excusing themselves because it's for a cause

[storm wraith]

yeah - sadly that most dms dont like "evil" charakters

[stiff rock]

unless everyone including the dm is okay with it yeah most campaigns are usually centered around good/neutral

[limber trail]

they can often be disruptive and not merge well with a typical campaign & party

[stiff rock]

same vibe you get from a murder hobo or lone wolf character

[storm wraith]

true.

like the chaotic evil rogue , i guess

[limber trail]

exactly

[stiff rock]

why doesn't any DM like my chaotic evil tiefling rogue who has a lone wolf god complex?

my dm suuuucks...

[storm wraith]

but the "chaotic neutral" fiend warlock who kills somethimes for his patron is "okay" 😄

[burnt dune]

[storm wraith]

funny thing, "evil" dosnt neccesary mean that 😄

[burnt dune]

i would say most people overall are not by default equipped to handle or be around really dark themes even when nuanced

i look for dark stories with difficult themes and the majority of people are either not interested, or not ready for that (not judging)

[stiff rock]

i wouldn't say it's that people aren't equipped to handle them, it's just that having one evil character in a party full of good guys tends to shift focus unfairly toward the evil guy

and you've also got a conflict of interest, where if the chaotic evil character wants to make a chaotically evil decision, there's 3-5 other players who are directly against it

[burnt dune]

this could easily be fixed if most people played morally gray characters. why do they not?

[stiff rock]

yeah but the tone of a campaign is something that needs to be established in session 0

[burnt dune]

naturally

[storm wraith]

i like stories where themes are thought trough - for example the "lawfull good" paladin -> what does a LG paladin if the "bad guys" have build an orphanage and the church demand him to burn that down

[burnt dune]

in my experience, most lean benevolent is what i am saying; happy to be proven wrong

[stiff rock]

it feels a lot better to be the good guys yeah i agree with you

[burnt dune]

as someone who loves exploring the psyche, i love to ask why; why do most people prefer being the good guys? it's fiction, a game; they could be anything and anyone

[storm wraith]

true - i only think that "lawfull evil" is , if you look closer at it, - the most realistic aproach of a charakter who submit to a bigger order (Alien-Celestial being, church, king, whatever)

[severe rampart]

I now get what dice goblins feel, I love rolling physical dice and not those digital dice

[burnt dune]

a lot of people think chaotic evil is the most scary alignment; i present to you lawful evil, yep

most chaotic characters lack the structure to be grand threats

[stiff rock]

i guess it just feels better to be a good person? same reason only 7% of people have seen bg3's evil ending vs the 25% that have gotten the good ending

both endings are just as easy to get

[burnt dune]

yeah i agree, it is the reason people play, that defines this

[storm wraith]

like i said , a "holy crussader" - "I am here to enforce Asrael’s word, not to question it.“ -> is effektively lawfull evil, because, if the mission demand it, that paladin would do evil things for the mission without hesitation

[severe rampart]

Because it's nice to be nice :)

[burnt dune]

full disclosure, i dont play in any campaigns, last time I used D&D was in a NWN;EE server that was Ravenloft-themed

[severe rampart]

though, there are some "evil" campaigns

[burnt dune]

But I do love the settings, and using them in novel format

[storm wraith]

stupid question, but what is a "evil campaign"

[burnt dune]

i would guess it is a campaign with dark themes as default

perhaps one set in the underdark, where certain thigns are gonna happen and be seen as normal

[severe rampart]

You can get surprised what some people do when given absolute freedom and no consequences, along with power

[burnt dune]

no consequences = no fun

[severe rampart]

certainly not for them

[storm wraith]

true

🙂

[burnt dune]

it really depends on why a person is playing

[storm wraith]

realistic, high lethal, and gritty campaigns

[tender pier]

Whats the current topic here rn

[severe rampart]

Why people prefer to be good guys instead of bad guys in fantasy

[undone rain]

Being good feels good

[burnt dune]

i do not have the desire to be super powerful, or see stories with super powerful people

[severe rampart]

Hey! you Echo'ed my words!

[undone rain]

Ayyyy we share the same mindset

[storm wraith]

i have startet with "lawfull evil"

[tender pier]

I prefer bring the neutral one that uses logic for profits

Even if it means doing evil or good things

[burnt dune]

i dont have any preference, which is why I write characters in the full spectrum — but no, that's a lie, i prefer what i haven't seen 1,000 times before as of late XD

[undone rain]

If i can be a lawful good cleric of ilmater then im damn well gonna be one

[burnt dune]

largely a mood thing, inspo thing

meanwhile i have a Loviatar priestess

[undone rain]

And also it hurts my feelings being evil even in dnd

[humble cairn]

I'm of the school of thought that Alignment is a terrible way to do this and offer PBIF (Personality, Bonds, Ideals, Flaws) as a much better way of doing so.

[burnt dune]

embrace your shadow :D

[limber trail]

Typically I find a story of heroism often (but not exclusively, and not always) leads to phenomenally powerful heights that once you experience, are hard to come down from. Match that with the fact that most people aren't good at playing ttrpgs. You kinda need to be good at playing ttrpgs to play a good evil campaign that remains satisfying for everyone at the table while also delivering on what the core fantasy of an evil game is

[undone rain]

NEVAH

[burnt dune]

i agree XD

[severe rampart]

Unless that enemy deserves it, I am not killing them

[undone rain]

Exactly

[burnt dune]

in ravenloft, i played my loviatar priestess lying to her friend when he was knocked out; i mechanically stole his items, because that is what SHE would do.

my characters are not me. i play to see something other than me. i already am me.

[undone rain]

I love to be a role model for people. Someone whos good and dosent expect anything back

[burnt dune]

i wanna explore beyond myself

[halcyon forum]

I hope the other player was okay with this?

[burnt dune]

yeah, why wouldnt he be?

[halcyon forum]

People don’t like their stuff being stolen

[burnt dune]

that is where separation between in character and out of character comes, nay?

[halcyon forum]

Not really. Stealing from other PCs needs explicit above table permission regardless of personalties involved

[limber trail]

So I think this is exemplifying some of the issues with evil PCs: they do evil things. a lot of the time that prompts conversations of "this is what my character would do". That can suck because sometimes it means your character does things like steal other player's belongings. Now some players might be okay with it, and that's great, but at a lot of tables and groups that kind of conduct isn't really appreciated. That's why playing an evil PC is something that everyone needs to be okay with, and needs to come with somewhat regular check-ins matter as well as a DM who can police bad behaviour if it comes up.

[burnt dune]

these were the rules of the server guys, there were multiple evil characters around XD

[halcyon forum]

It’s fine if everyone agreed beforehand, as I said. But saying “it’s what my character would do” is one of the most common ways the social contract gets broken in DND

[burnt dune]

in good situations and bad situations, there needs to be separation — otherwise you end up with people getting feelings, either good feelings or bad feelings, which is a no-no in my book. again, take into account i am a text-based rper in communities

i dont know if you're familiar with the term sandbox

[limber trail]

So what we're saying here isn't that this situation is universally bad or can't be done. But it's an example of behaviour that not every group is comfortable with/wants, and that's behaviour which typically comes with evil PCs

[burnt dune]

i know XD

[halcyon forum]

And can you see how your statement and response might look like a possible example of such behavior? That’s why I asked clarifying questions

[burnt dune]

personally i dont enjoy black-and-white classifications of characters, my "good" characters have a flaws too,to balance it out, otherwise it's super boring, either way the coin falls

and if someone plays an antagonist with 0 redeeming qualities, that's a cardboard cutout, not a character

[limber trail]

I don't disagree with that take and in a lot of ways I do agree with it. But I do think it comes from an incredibly RP-focused style of play which not every group plays with. A lot of people and groups do play stereotypes and cardboard cutouts. If a player puts a lot of work in and is really invested in it and plays with people who are on board with an evil character, a character like that can shine. But it's not how every group plays or wants to play

[burnt dune]

i've met those people early on in my RP life XD

[burnt dune]

i am merely that, a bookworm turn writer/rper

D&D has been used in the communities I've been a part of , as a balancing tool

also for adventure RPs, very useful

[icy skiff]

What spells should I run for a beast master ranger? I’m playing 5e

[limber trail]

it is but what's important to remember is that most dnd groups & players don't really play dnd like that. A lot of expectations and standards are formed based on how the most common groups play, not really niches within communities

[halcyon forum]

PWT, conjure animals, spike growth, absorb elements, good berry, zephyr strike are some standouts

[icy skiff]

I forgot to say I’m level 6

[knotty pasture]

Appeals to us morally

[burnt dune]

i mean, if i ever play a D&D game, from the get-go there'll be a lot of communication about everything — but it's unlikely at this point

[halcyon forum]

All of these are level 1 or 2 spells except Conjure animals

[knotty pasture]

Pass Without Trace, Entangle, Spike Growth, Absorb Elements, Goodberry, Aid

Nvm some were mentioned but that means they're doubly important

[noble basin]

love plant growth

wait nvm this isnt druid

[halcyon forum]

Going back to that. Being helpful and making the world better is my personal power fantasy. Doing bad things feels bad even in fiction

[burnt dune]

yeah

[knotty pasture]

Its hard to balance evil campaigns sometimes, even in bg3 the appeal is simply new dialogue

[burnt dune]

as I said, in my experience, most people don't wanna

[knotty pasture]

You get worse loot on average overall and I think that also puts people off

[halcyon forum]

I can’t do evil playthroughs in video games either. I tried

[burnt dune]

i consume true crime daily and learn about mental disorders and other stuff, i have a very high tolerance

[knotty pasture]

Evil campaigns felt like challenge runs where you run with less equipment and have to make the most out of it

Still need to try that full evil Dark Urge run

[burnt dune]

do all of you play campaigns that are mostly milestone focused, then? like, achieve A, achieve B, this kind of campaign?

[tall forge]

Technically everyone does

[burnt dune]

technically, yeah

[icy skiff]

See I’ve only ever played a barbarian so any tips help

[tall forge]

Its brutal man,,,

[burnt dune]

but like imagine... my tiefling rogue was hired by a human smuggler to help with a cursed necklace

do they have a goal to meet some people and get to the bottom of it? yes

will it take us a year to go through this journey given that we play by post and focus on each dialogue with paragraph descriptions? probably

[icy skiff]

I can’t wait to do my first book keeping

[knotty pasture]

Go awooga and beat people up with two handed weapons, the end

Or do you mean tips in general not tips for Barb

[tall forge]

Im a little confused at your point

[halcyon forum]

I need to play that Archer barbarian Build one day

[knotty pasture]

Thrower Barb build let's go

[burnt dune]

let me know, what confused you?

[icy skiff]

Tips for my ranger but my rangers health is 58

[tall forge]

Youre just describing the average campaign experience

Idk what that has to do with milestone

[burnt dune]

idk when i played something like this over voice once, the goal was met in 4hrs

[tall forge]

Sorta campaign dependent

[burnt dune]

no it's like elephant said

it really varies, how much roleplaying the people wanna do

[tall forge]

It does, but rp focused groups have rather become the norm

[burnt dune]

[limber trail]

I wouldn't say they're the norm

[burnt dune]

interesting

[limber trail]

well, I think they sit on a scale. All groups have some amount of RP to them, but really rp focused groups are still not super common

[knotty pasture]

Pass Without Trace is super good and is your bread and butter

[burnt dune]

that is what i knew

[tall forge]

Depends what you mean by “really rp”

Bc rp has just objectively risen as a main focus in dnd

[burnt dune]

me looking at my 1000 word rp response...

[tall forge]

Youre in textrp im assuming

[burnt dune]

yep

[knotty pasture]

That's just an ao3 oneshot lol

[tall forge]

Thats a whole different can of worms

[blissful ibex]

Aid is a spell that's really nice for you and two of your lowest HP friends or perhaps your animal companion or the wizard's familiar c:

[limber trail]

All groups do some RP, and all campaigns are expected to have some amount. When I say majorly RP focused, I mean groups who can and will spend the majority of a session mainly focusing on inter-party RP.

[burnt dune]

i dont write alone, no motivation- but i write that amount, almost daily, for different characters and settings

[tall forge]

Then yeah, id say thats risen and become way closer to the norm, especially with the rise of both Critical role and the general direction media has gone

[burnt dune]

also if a fanfic ends in 1,000 words i'm disappointed...

[tall forge]

Medias become more story focused in general

[icy skiff]

My animal buddy is a displacer beast

[limber trail]

It's risen but it's not really the norm, not to the extent that actually RP focused groups are. I would say it's more like some groups have adopted parts of that genre into more traditional campaign formats

[tall forge]

I wouldnt say entire sessions being rp is the norm, but its the entire reason dnd has moved from a dungeon crawl to now

[unkempt spear]

Ngl im a bit worried for the first session of this one campaign im dming

[burnt dune]

why?

[blissful ibex]

goodberry is also nice to cast a few times before a long rest with a free low level spell slots if you have any left over; most DMs won't complain about 1~2 castings of it carrying over, just don't go too overboard where they table ban it

[unkempt spear]

Its 9 people over discord and im the only person who has ever played dnd

[tall forge]

Everythings more serialized and attempting to make a story

[burnt dune]

what inspired you to take on this mission?

[knotty pasture]

Jeez what a huge campaign

[unkempt spear]

Uhhhh new gc? A lot of them wanna play it

Ive been dming for 6 years now

[burnt dune]

i both admire and feel bad for DMs, because of how much work it is for 1 person and it is work that is often not returned

i know that we all work differently cerebrally and i know the people who naturally brainstorm and worldbuild are naturals at it

but damn, i cant find it in me to be the DM if the other person wont do it back

[unkempt spear]

I love dming but I do wanna be player

[burnt dune]

yeeeh

[unkempt spear]

Im technically dming 4 groups rn

[bronze canopy]

I’m not sure if I ever want to be a player again

[unkempt spear]

Why is that

[burnt dune]

that's the rule of my collaborations — we both add worldbuilding elements, interactions with npcs, and ideas for events, or we dont work together

[tall forge]

I love dming, i way more than playing

But playing would be nice…

[bronze canopy]

Because I love DMing so much. I daydream in the shower and at work about how I’m going to set stuff up for my party. I love borrowing from fiction and tweaking it and making character archetypes that I might actually use. Being a player is fun, but DMing gives you the power to never stop playing

[unkempt spear]

Thats fair tbh, my issue is that I like making cool characters that arent just npcs

[limber trail]

While I'm not quite ready to hang up the player role yet I do find myself week by week much more excited for my campaign that I run, than for the ones I play

[worn lagoon]

I have to DM all the time because I cannot find a DM that a) doesn't ban everything b) isn't just putting out an advert for an undertale text rp group chat

no judgement but neither are what i'm looking for

[bronze canopy]

It might also be because the first game I ever played, the DM added a bunch of homebrew that really made everything difficult for everyone. Even he admits it. I was made a Wereraven but never got to enjoy the benefits except for flight

I didn’t get even one combat where I was immune to the slashing, piercing or bludgeoning damaging being dealt to me

First bad guy I met had silver

[worn lagoon]

i am quite extremely sick of dming and would rather play but the adverts lately are like 'only humans and half elves, no sorcerers no warlocks no feats no multiclassing no NOTHING'

[buoyant oar]

By Ban Everything what does that mean

I ban a lot. A lot, for me though it's 95% stuff from books outside the core rules and setting expacs.

[stiff rock]

could refer to that one dm who had like a 100-page list of everything that would cause him to walk out of a game

or just dms in general being strict with what their players can or can't play/do

[hot gate]

As long as it's communicated in advance, which seems to be the case here, I've got no issues with restrictions.

After all, if it's too restrictive for my tastes, I can simply not join.

[severe rampart]

I let my players do whatever, within reason, if a feature is too OP, I might restrict it, like the reborn having advantage on death saving throws

[stiff rock]

i allow core & expanded rules but if my players want to use homebrew or really obscure official content then i always make sure to look over it

[limber trail]

(So I don't need to turn this into a huge conversation if you don't want to but I honestly think advantage on death saves isn't that bad. You're still out of the fight unless you roll a nat 20 or are healed, and you can still fail saves by being attacked)

[burnt valley]

they're not even playing 5e anymore, its just a different ttrpg calling it 5e or something

[severe rampart]

the party has 4 healers, but they do often split up (I don't know why they keep doing that)

that feature removal won't be so bad

[limber trail]

it's not huge to lose. Just not necessarily the strongest ability

[severe rampart]

yep, and the players said they didn't mind, so, I don't see a problem with removing it

[worn lagoon]

Yeah. I'm complaining that it's leaving me with no games to apply to lately though

[hot gate]

huh, alright

[buoyant oar]

I don't have 100 pages. I do have a spreadsheet.

Mainly because it lists all specific subclasses, species options, etc.

As for homebrew at least for me. When I start a new campaign I tell them which homebrew options are available. Otherwise it isn't. I think I have allowed homebrew I did not source like twice in the last decade.

[rough basalt]

For my setting all I restrict are species for lore reasons.
If it's an official dnd setting I don't really have any limitations other than "has to be in a book I own"

[eager marsh]

He doesn’t want you to know this but this is secretly incentive for players to bribe them with buying him new books /j

[worn lagoon]

I did not think "dragonborn warlock" would be this impossible to find a table for

[rough basalt]

If only that worked

Speaking of books tho.
My eberron Forge of the Artificer alt cover comes today

[eager marsh]

‘Dragonborn warlock’ shouldn’t really be making it any harder than finding a table in general really. Which is to say, a good one is always tricky to find

[worn lagoon]

You'd be surprised

[swift wren]

Most groups make characters at the table, so coming with a set character can be difficult

[tall forge]

That one was wild to me, but it makes sense

I started with and continue to do homebrew/improv detriment

[worn lagoon]

not quite a set character, i just don't want to play other races or other classes

[swift wren]

Then it might be for other reasons, best of luck finding a table :)

[still plover]

And it's just a dragonborn warlock, right? Anything weird about them in particular, any homebrew or third-party stuff?

[worn lagoon]

nope, absolutely nothing. i just want dragonborn as my pc race and a warlock.

[still plover]

Unless you're deliberately going for settings where the DM says "there are no dragonborn" or "in this world, the only warlocks are NPCs because of the corrosive nature of pact magic" I don't see that ever being an issue.

[worn lagoon]

it has filtered out more tables than I thought it would

[plush ridge]

When does one get image perms here

[worn lagoon]

Never

[still plover]

That's so weird to me. Genuinely, if that's the only thing, honest wow. Where are you looking?

[eager marsh]

Pact magic isn’t even corrosive by definition

[still plover]

In that DM's setting for a particular campaign. Context.

[tall forge]

I would assume it would be a hb setting

Ie- “the gods are all dead, no more clerics”

[worn lagoon]

I actually have a setting with vague, debatably existant gods that have clerics

[vale kettle]

In some settings you can be a godless cleric tho

[eager marsh]

No more mutants clerics

[tall forge]

While true, the idea of worship could be dead or whatever bs you wanna make up

[worn lagoon]

Thaumaturge clerics are flavored as "devout" clerics that actually believe in their gods, while the protectors are literally "archaeologists" that view divine spellcasting as the result of different methods/rituals, as if it's just an ancient branch of wizardry

[tall forge]

While i personally dont agree with it, dms are free to ban even base classes

[vale kettle]

Its their table after all

[eager marsh]

Banning clerics with a no gods logic where godless clerics don’t exist would mean you’d have to also ban Paladin as well since you already decided godless divine magic isn’t on the table. Arguably Druid too

[tall forge]

It was an off example of which i had no stock in it

But thats up to the dm 🤷‍♂️

[vale kettle]

I have not seen a post or a table where they ban cleric

So idk where you fellas getting that from

[worn lagoon]

i've seen table adverts where every charisma caster + druid was banned

[tall forge]

Youre getting really hung up on that example

[still plover]

I've pondered a game where the gods are gone. No clerics on the table. Paladins are fine, their oaths are different. Ditto warlocks. The goal would have to be something like letting the deities back in, or not. Players get to pick.

[worn lagoon]

5e but only clerics and wizards allowed

[storm wraith]

what about true strike and the spellfire adept feat?

[tall forge]

Doesnt seem insanely op

[severe rampart]

yeah, what peach said

[worn lagoon]

this seems like a terrible use for a feat

[vale kettle]

Honestly the only valid ban i see is multi classing

Cause that is an optional rule

[limber trail]

I may end up with something like this. By the end of my campaign my players will get to choose: kill the gods, or don't. And if they do, we play on in a godless world.

[severe rampart]

also 4/5 of my players are new, so they don't try to optimize or anything

[tall forge]

Dms rules, any ban is valid 🤷

I personally ban spells and specific subclasses

[severe rampart]

not new "new", but new enough

[undone rain]

Mine usually bans guns and artificers and fair enough tbh it dosent affect me that much

[worn lagoon]

i'm practically begging my players to do cool creative stuff that's banned on most tables but the best i get is feeding the cleric to the monster they're fighting (there is no step 2)

[swift wren]

I usually talk to players regarding typical and exotic choices for a table and what I dislike seeing ᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉⁿ ᵇᵃⁿ ᵈʳᵃᵍᵒⁿᵇᵒʳⁿ⁻ʷᵃʳˡᵒᶜᵏˢ >:D

[tall forge]

Lmao

[worn lagoon]

yes echo this is a callout post do cooler stuff NOW!!

[still plover]

Yeah, like that. And (in mine) letting the gods back in means all of the gods, including the nasty ones.

[swift wren]

I mean, at some point the monster is going to be full. Chunk Strahd with 50 lvl 1 characters, using the dead barbarians as cover, just flooding them him with rogues.

[worn lagoon]

feed that giant bat with 50 human fighters

it will get full at some point

[severe rampart]

Hey! a Changeling is cool, and you know my out of campaign goal for him!

[buoyant oar]

I can understand banning clerics and paladins that don't have gods if in your setting. Divine magic explicitly comes from Divine entities. D&D is a game about specific beats general

For a long time in the Forgotten Realms Divine magic explicitly only came from the gods. Which leads to partially the confusion about clerics and paladins today

[worn lagoon]

your race is fine but use your access to almost every spell list in the game to pull off a cool combo or something!

[severe rampart]

If I just so happened to come across an "imprisonment" spell scroll I wouldn't mind

[worn lagoon]

...you might

[severe rampart]

What's wrong with CME + Upcasted Scorching ray combo

[tall forge]

Modern paladins/clerics are interesting, but bring up a lot of cosmological questions

[severe rampart]

want me to dip two levels into fighter then cast Eldritch Blast too?

[worn lagoon]

it's not as cool as suggestion nystul planar binding combo to enslave everything forever cmon

[buoyant oar]

Divine magic coming from the gods in the Realms explicitly was a thing all the way through early 5th edition. To the point where one of the best novel series dealing with the Dragonborn nation that was introduced in 4th edition as a whole subplot around their distaste for Gods and divine magic. And what happens when one of their community members gets blessed by the god of their enemies?

[severe rampart]

Wth does Suggestion do? I know what Nystul and Planar Binding does

[worn lagoon]

dragonborn's distaste for divine magic vs 9/10 dragonborn PCs being paladins

[worn lagoon]

bypass nystul's "willing creature" target requirement by commanding the creature not to resist your next spell cast on them

[burnt valley]

that would be fun, at least i dont have to worry about aoe placement anymore

[severe rampart]

... I see

[buoyant oar]

Yeah that was one of the new things in the new FR books. That was very strange Dragonborn in the Realms who have a long and story history of being anti-service or servitude. Just kicking it up serving the new Sultana and genies

[crimson gulch]

Nothing, I have reduced a few pcs to piles of smoking boots with that one

[worn lagoon]

divine intervention can also turn planar binding from an one-hour spell to a one-action one

[buoyant oar]

It's something that works Standalone, but requires a bit of stretching within the context of the greater Realms. Which is not new.

[severe rampart]

Oh man, how many have you killed this month (March)

[hollow stone]

wait does that also mean i can Suggestion into Mage Armor on a creature?

[worn lagoon]

"become willing for the next spell I cast on you", if the target is not self

[severe rampart]

Doesn't Mage Armor only affect the caster?

[burnt valley]

all that for the sake of damage and at melee range too? not a good use of spell slots tbh

[hollow stone]

i thought it was Touch?

[worn lagoon]

You touch a willing creature who isn’t wearing armor.

[pliant sapphire]

The creature remains unwilling imo

[severe rampart]

I stand corrected, it is touch and not "self"

[worn lagoon]

they're charmed so it's generally agreed that it works

[burnt valley]

2024 RAW works, 2014 nahhh

[worn lagoon]

what sort of unwilling creature are you casting mage armor on

[buoyant oar]

You see it's things like this that make me fear the enchantment school as a whole

[worn lagoon]

It's probably my favorite school of magic for this reason

[buoyant oar]

Gets my DM brain wiring about how civilizations would regulate the ever-living crap out of those spells

[severe rampart]

Then what do you suggest for purely damage?

[worn lagoon]

many of these spells are frowned upon for valid reasons for sure

[severe rampart]

I have other utility spells too, in fact I used to have 4 damaging spells and 17 utility spells

then I changed it

[buoyant oar]

I mean most of enchantment is basically magicking the statement that consent is a suggestion

[burnt valley]

danse macabre skeletons with wands of magic missiles

[severe rampart]

our party is poor

[burnt valley]

what level idk if ur high level or not

[worn lagoon]

You never asked if you could perhaps get your hands on any magic items soonish

Also we're restarting, so how are you poor before session 1

[severe rampart]

Level 8, also I am not a necromancer, I am a Bard, then again I probably could still get the spell

[severe rampart]

I do have a magic item, The Flute of Borrowed Brilliance

[severe rampart]

well I'm not poor, I have 100 gp, but that's it

[burnt valley]

a bard? RIP, don't know if i could help u then since u get the good stuff at Lvl 10

[severe rampart]

a lore bard, friendo

that sweet sweet extra magical secrets

[worn lagoon]

lore bard feels like battlemaster fighter in that it feels like it should be base bard

[severe rampart]

yeah well I'm too poor to afford other sub classes

[worn lagoon]

just use a written char sheet it's fine

[burnt valley]

Oh right, Sleet Storm and Danse Macabre then (what are other spell casters in ur party btw)

[worn lagoon]

there's a 2024 ua necromancer wizard

that's really it

[burnt valley]

RIP control undead tho

[burnt valley]

would magocracies exist in your setting?

[radiant night]

Alright guys, I need help, my dice have been so mean to me my entire campaign, I have 3 different sets of dice and I've rolled above a 15 all of 5 times over about 12 sessions

[worn lagoon]

use only attacks that use saves so dm rolls instead 👍

[grizzled lance]

aged like fine wine

[severe rampart]

Saving throws my saving grace

[radiant night]

I wish I got those more often

[grizzled lance]

thats why druid will be my favorite spell caster

[still plover]

I'd bet detect magic probably wouldn't pick up the signature of spell use after the spell is finished, right? Problematic.

[radiant night]

I play a half orc rogue, I'm only level 4 and this is my first campaign

[still plover]

Ah, a rogue half-orc. What's your speciality?

[radiant night]

I'm not sure what you mean but my dm allowed me to make 102 Molotov cocktails

So fire I suppose

[still plover]

Arson, then?

[grizzled lance]

the ability to swap out there spells like a long rest gives them so much utility

[radiant night]

We just leveled up to level 4 and I chose aberrant mark so I can use a fire-centric spell and a can trip to keep with the fire theme, I also found some smouldering armor, ironically we just came out of hell

[grizzled lance]

why would use fire in hell

[radiant night]

I got my first taste of fireball not too long ago from a level 5 wizard and was like "yup I want THAT" 😂

[still plover]

They took it out of hell.

[radiant night]

We didn't, I made the Molotovs before we went to hell, and since we just left I doubt we'll be returning

We went to hell to retrieve the babayagas 6 horses

[grizzled lance]

i was about to say

[gleaming dock]

Crazy nerf to Assassin 2024, removed sneak attack and surprise attack, and made it a generic hit NPC.. Without sneak attack or surprise, there's hardly any reason to play them strategically or stealth

[severe rampart]

Right?

just play a bugbear at that point

[grizzled lance]

them removing the surpise round was also pretty bad

the one big nerf i really didnt like was to alert

[radiant night]

So our party consists of a half orc rogue, a halfling bard, a minotaur fighter, and a fairy rogue, the fairy has the highest kill count out of all of us because her dice like her 😂

[severe rampart]

ah classic

[grizzled lance]

why two rogues

[severe rampart]

because Rogues are cool

[radiant night]

That's just how it played out

[grizzled lance]

[radiant night]

It's funny, she's shooting toothpicks from her bow, we're all slashing at ppl and missing

[grizzled lance]

arent faries in dnd small?

[buoyant oar]

Size in DnD does not correlate to height but the amount of space they control

[knotty vine]

yeah but they are around 2-4 feet tall

[radiant night]

Yeah, in our game she's like Tinkerbell sized

[knotty vine]

i thought so

[radiant night]

One shotting people that are the size of a minotaur

Sorry I'm at work so I'll be off and on

[buoyant oar]

Monsters of the Multiverse states on height and weight of fairies typically fall into the same ranges as humans which is wild

[radiant night]

Are you the Tasha?

[knotty vine]

who else would i be

[radiant night]

That's awesome my bard loves using your spells

[hollow stone]

the witch, i think?

[radiant night]

Especially hideous laughter

[knotty vine]

again they are 2-4 feet tall but humans is a stretch since they can be medium

[buoyant oar]

I know that. Where does it state they are 2-4 feet tall for the PC option though

[hollow stone]

i prefer to imagine that most fairies are tinker-bell sized, this is just a flawed study that included an outlier, The Big One, which is a fairy larger than the sun

[knotty vine]

just using the basic "small" catagory like how in 2024 it says small characters are usually blank and blank

halfling 2024- Your Size is Small (about 2–3 feet tall).
gnomes 2024 -You are Small (about 3–4 feet tall).

[woven flint]

I'm gonna be playing a Fairy Wild Magic Sorcerer soon 🧐

[buoyant oar]

Yeah most people take the idea of Fairy and make it Pixies which are between 1-2.5 feet tall in the realms.

[hollow stone]

we should let Goliaths be Large and make their level 5 a "one size larger" promotion instead of being to the Large size, i think having a Huge PC is funny

[limber trail]

Ti's Fae Campaign?

[knotty vine]

people that mix up fairy's and pixies are just as bad as those who mix up demons and devils

[limber trail]

(At least in this hobby, Fairies and Pixies have a less defined/focused on different than Demons and Devils, so it's understandable imo)

[buoyant oar]

To me fairies being just basically winged halflings is a bit lorge

[knotty vine]

they also have a built thing being able to cast enlarge reduce once per long rest

[woven flint]

Perhaps

[buoyant oar]

Bingo. For instance fairies as a separate species is a relatively new thing for the forgotten realms. Instead having a much more specific list of faerie species from nymphs, brownies, sprites, light makers, nixies, pixies, atomies, and Sakina

[severe fox]

how would one obtain more players

[crimson gulch]

Post in looking for players and runna great game that folks want to keep playing

[severe fox]

ah i see thank you

[radiant night]

How is everyone today?

[jolly agate]

text session or vc session?

[severe fox]

VC i dont do PBP

[jolly agate]

Meh, can't yap

[radiant night]

I can!

I can always complain 😂

[severe fox]

ive done DND irl and downgrading all the way to PBP is just not something i think i would enjoy

[worn lagoon]

whats pbp

[radiant night]

Play by play

[jolly agate]

post by post

[severe fox]

text based dnd to my understanding

[jolly agate]

We both had an aneurysm

[radiant night]

Honestly I think that'd be kinda cool to do

[jolly agate]

Play-by-post

[severe fox]

i prefer using my voice

[jolly agate]

That

[radiant night]

Text based role playing using dice

[jolly agate]

Can't blame ya mate

[radiant night]

You can! Just alone, where nobody can hear you scream

[severe fox]

yeah but screaming at people while Voicing the BBEG is so much more fun

[burnt valley]

gloomstalker assassin build is now gone :c

[radiant night]

My DM travels a lot and occasionally can't make it to the session in person, so he calls into the session and does stuff that way

Idk I think it's cool

[severe rampart]

Bugbear Gloomstalker still up there

[woven flint]

Fey and Fey-Adjacent creatures are fun 😎

[grizzled lance]

i prefer the giants

[radiant night]

My next character will be a minotaur

[grizzled lance]

kinda want PC races based on the demon lords

[woven flint]

Oh, I meant as Player characters

[grizzled lance]

i know

[storm wraith]

is 17 pasive perception good?

[severe rampart]

I yearn to play an Aasimar

[limber trail]

It’s pretty good. Passive perception itself isn’t a stat that all DMs use too often though.

[storm wraith]

for level 1?

[severe rampart]

Definitely

[limber trail]

Yeah that’s solid

[storm wraith]

😄

i "build" a scout rogue , -> not realy about "knive time" more about "sherlock holmes" type of rogue

[radiant night]

And I yearn for my pants to not be soaked.......but I'm the idiot that decided to join my public works dept😂

[storm wraith]

ya know the old Dungeon-diver rogue , where you are the one who finds the traps, and disarm them

why is the trope now the "chaotic-neutral problem rogue" and not anymore the "skilled thiev who avoid traps"

[radiant night]

I'm just "chaotic fire menace"

[limber trail]

The other rogue you might enjoy is the Inquisitive rogue, who are investigators and detectives and the like

[modern mist]

Hello

The 4 weeks 13 player campaign has sadly come to an end

[storm wraith]

Yeah, this subclass Looks good on Paper, But its to much setting and DM dependent.

Its either a "i Break your setting" or a "there are No clues at All" void.

Often even s "detect evil and good" pings nothing.

[jolly agate]

13 player campaign?, lawrd

[limber trail]

Just quickly, what do you think detect evil and good does?

(or rather what does your DM think it does)

[storm wraith]

That what the spell description says.

• but If you are Inside a church and yo use IT, and the DM says "you find nothing"

[woven flint]

What

[empty thicket]

Wh...what?! why they need a whole football team and 2 extras!?

[jolly agate]

That poor dm

[limber trail]

I mean yeah churches don't necessarily meet any of the criteria of detect evil and good

[jolly agate]

Those are some serious numbers mate

[storm wraith]

"there is a place or object within 30 feet of you that has been magically consecrated " -

[jolly agate]

Like DAMN

[limber trail]

churches are not necessarily magically consecrated

[empty thicket]

Tracking from 2 to 5 players is hard, tracking more than 6 is impossible
Tracking more than 10 you must hate yourself.

[limber trail]

It costs 1000gp and a 5th level spellcaster to consecrate a church w/ hallow. That can be pretty rare.

[empty thicket]

The kind of setting you must do for justify having such group power is problematic too

[woven flint]

The average town church couldn't afford that

I think with how much Gold is given out in D&D, players often forget its value

[limber trail]

So yeah it's pretty reasonable that detect evil and good wouldn't ping in a church. It doesn't mean the spell is broken. It just means nothing nearby is magically consecrated or desecrated

[atomic kayak]

Magical consecration is a specific thing yea

[storm wraith]

True. But a not consecreated church dont protect you from Bad Things either 🙂

[atomic kayak]

Sure

[limber trail]

You're also dropping 1000gp on magical effects that realistically most churches don't need. What they need is folks to tend the grounds, repair the graves, keep the roof in order, clean the gutters.

most churches are places of faith, not defense

[atomic kayak]

Assuming the church has access to someone capable of casting it in the first place too

[limber trail]

It's very reasonable that there are plenty churches not consecrated via hallow

[storm wraith]

In a world where undead, demons and other nasty things are common... I dunno.

[pliant sapphire]

They are not that common

[placid grotto]

to be fair, this depends on how often settlements get wiped off the map in a given world
but obviously that doesn't magically make enough casters to hallow every church appear

[limber trail]

Undead are documented phenomena but not necessarily something that is constantly threatening you 24/7. If you are under permanent threat of death to where you need to spend 1000gp and get a high level spellcaster to bless your church, that's where a lot of folks would leave and go to a bigger town

[atomic kayak]

For all the reasons mentioned, but mostly especially the "its higher level magic that is not easily cast"

[charred panther]

In your experience, at which levels 100 gold for adventurers is a lot of money, at which normal spending and when starts to be pocket change?

[woven flint]

It'd be so funny to play a Tiefling and walk into a Church

"It's a Fiend!!!"

Then the pastors like
"No, that's Ray, he's here to fix the lights."

[placid grotto]

don't remember, is hallow one of those 'cast every day for 1 year to be permanent' spells?

because if so that makes it even harder to have hallow set up

[limber trail]

100gp is a lot of money for level 1, 2, 3, maybe 4. My level six players are dropping 100gp without too much concern. By level 10 it's chump change.

[limber trail]

It lasts until dispelled

[atomic kayak]

100gp is roughly an average (total party) quest reward for levels 1 and 2, slightly below average for 3 and 4

[woven flint]

When the fiend knows dispel magic

[oak grotto]

I feel like 100 gold is a decent reward for a single individual at level 1. Not super experienced at DMing.

[charred panther]

So what is a normal aount of money per character at level 8? i'm trying to roughly get general expectations

[atomic kayak]

Assuming 4 people, the (higher end admittedly) quest reward per person being about 25gp for levels 1 and 2

[atomic kayak]

At what point? Per quest? Campaign?

The DMG (both versions) does have solid tables/information about this

[limber trail]

I recently gave my party of four level 6s 5000gp in total, 1250 each. It was a pretty big payout but not out of the question for them. It was a pretty large payout from a wealthy man who had cause to support their goals.

[charred panther]

Yeah, it is, I'm just interested how it's usually "feels right" for different people, not how it's supposed to be

[placid grotto]

tbh, this depends on why people are living somewhere. If its common enough to invest in consecrating churches people might just be used to that

[woven flint]

Again, spellcasters around level 10 are pretty damn rare in most settings, and mind you, that's like close to Archmage status

I think it's reasonable to doubt that most churches are consecrated in D&D

[covert saddle]

Is there any artist cus I need a art for my playable character Im a dm and I want to surprise my players

There’s 5 ppl
1-reo
2-midnight
3-phsyco
4-feedback
5-Lucina
If there’s any artist pls dm me

[severe rampart]

probably would be a good idea to take a look at #dnd-advertisements and see artists' adverts there

[grizzled lance]

This is Bob

[limber trail]

Hello Bob

[grizzled lance]

For every hi Bob gets he increases by one inch

[limber trail]

Oh no

I have made a grave error

[ocean trellis]

[woven flint]

Goodbye, Bob.

[ocean trellis]

Rip Bob 😔

[woven flint]

Bob must PERISH!

[empty thicket]

Hi bob

[undone rain]

Im just thinkin of mr incredible when yall say bob lol

[ocean trellis]

YES HE SHALL!!!

[grizzled lance]

Bob has grown a total of 2 inches

[gleaming ice]

Hi Bob

[cold jay]

How can I flavor a bard that instead of using an instrument, sings instead to cast spells?

[crystal rain]

I'm not sure where to ask this, but I need help associating a spell with a tarot card. Can anyone help me?

[spring light]

just... do? talk to your dm, but that should work. you'll likely still need some kind of focus or material components.

[spring light]

major or minor arcana?

[crystal rain]

Major

Justice, need to be 4° - 6° circle

[cold jay]

maybe I could reflavor an instrument as a microphone

[spring light]

or cone/megaphone? idk your setting

[crystal rain]

I can't find anything involving balance in the spells

[spring light]

do you have the spell and are trying to associate it with a card, or a card and are trying to associate with a spell?

[cold jay]

I am just making the character. Good idea about the megaphone, but the microphone fits my character vision better

[spring light]

do you have a table for the character already?

[crystal rain]

The second option, I ended up writing it wrong

[cold jay]

no, just making the character for fun atm

[spring light]

you want to associate justice with a spell?

[spring light]

oh then absolutely can do the microphone thing

[crystal rain]

Yep

[marble lion]

The spell that shares half the damage

[spring light]

what about sanctuary?

[crystal rain]

It has to be a 4th, 5th, or 6th circle

[spring light]

How are you interpreting Justice, and which deck are you looking at?

[crystal rain]

Waite

[spring light]

quietly mutters

could go circle of power?

[crystal rain]

Balance, truth, law, cause and effect, and integrity

[crystal rain]

I didn't understand

[crystal rain]

I'll take a look

[spring light]

i just find that deck kinda boring, personal preference

[crystal rain]

Is there a better option? I don't know if my research was wrong, but I saw that it was the best way to adapt the spells because the meanings are more general

[marble lion]

Circle as in spell level?

[crystal rain]

Yep

[spring light]

i believe it is a circle as in it creates a circle via the spell's effect

wait.... now i'm confused.

[marble lion]

Why call it circle? Different system?

[crystal rain]

Wait, in English aren't spell levels called circles?

[spring light]

no, they are spell levels

[crystal rain]

Oh

[marble lion]

I see

[round bay]

Test

[crystal rain]

I was referring to the levels

It has to be of 4 - 6 level

[spring light]

But if we're just talking about spell levels, then I'd go Greater Restoration, Word of Recall, or Banishment?

[still plover]

They should be though, it is very confusing.

[crystal rain]

The banishment makes a lot of sense

[marble lion]

Mental prison might be fun for justice

[crystal rain]

thanks

[crystal rain]

I took it for "the force"

[marble lion]

Oh alright

[crystal rain]

I picked scatter for the wheel of fortune

[spring light]

do you have the d&d tarot deck?

[crystal rain]

I don't know if my logic was very good (and this spell is very bad).

[crystal rain]

no

[spring light]

is this for an online game or in person?

[crystal rain]

It's for a homebrew item

You draw 3 cards every day by rolling 3#d78

During this day you have a "scroll" of this cards, which can be used even if you don't know the spell

[spring light]

yeah, i get that it's a homebrew item. but online or in person game?

[crystal rain]

online

[spring light]

78? so you've got the full deck, but only spells if they pull a major?

[crystal rain]

I didn't understand, sorry, English isn't my first language

[crystal rain]

No, minor arcana are spells of levels 1-3, major are of levels 4-6

[spring light]

AH! okay, can they keep pulling more and more each day? or is there a reset?

[crystal rain]

Reset

[spring light]

if new cards are not drawn, do the previous remain usable?

[crystal rain]

The term "day" is somewhat incorrect; I meant "long rest" instead. Anyway, the item is kind of a fortunr for that "day

[crystal rain]

No

[spring light]

seems decently balanced

[crystal rain]

Thank you

[spring light]

depending on how many people can draw, might be a touch powerful.

[crystal rain]

You can also assign cards to allies; they can cast spells by spending their spell actions, but you, who are attuned to the item, must spend your reaction to authorize the activation

[crystal rain]

Only the one who are attuned in can

[spring light]

takes attunement as well, alright.

...what happens if the person turns the cards over and tries to simply pick them?

[crystal rain]

This is a signature item that my GM allowed me to create through a homebrew project (all players can create a signature feat/item for their character). I'm saying "attuned" for game purposes, but it doesn't count as an attunement slot; only my character can use it, and the item is permanently bound to him

[spring light]

Oh! It's for you personally. I'm used to being the DM who makes magic items to give out

[crystal rain]

My character is a herald of destiny gifted by the goddess; he wouldn't do something like that, and even if he did, his logic would dictate that the three chosen cards somehow represent his destiny, It was his destiny to choose those three, even if he thinks it was his choice or something like that

(You can't cheat the dice, hahaha)

[spring light]

i'd say that if they were face up when drawn they have no effect, and can only be properly "received" if drawn face down.

but your stance is fair

[crystal rain]

I think it's better your way

Is there a spell that better represents the Hanged Man than Hold Monster?

[spring light]

oh man, and imagine if you don't have the full deck at first, and need to retrieve parts of it from/during different quests?

[crystal rain]

That would be really cool, unfortunately the problem is that my character already exists and has a very different lore; we're closer to the end of the campaign than the beginning

[spring light]

gate seal, banishment?

hold monster is good too, honestly.

[crystal rain]

This item is somewhat innate to him; he has other signature abilities (the GM allows you to create them in increments of 4 levels starting from level 0), and this tarot one is an "enhancement" to his destiny reading ability

[crystal rain]

I'll check out Gate Seal, but I think I'll probably go with Hold Monster

[spring light]

hold monster will generally just be straight better

[crystal rain]

Also, for the magician I picked Bigby's Hand, good choice?

[spring light]

the wizard? oh magician.

[spring light]

honestly? heroes feast might be a good choice

[crystal rain]

Actually, I don't remember if I had been answered by anyone exactly, but for the wheel of fortune? Scatter It seems good because of both the randomness of teleportation and forced teleportation (inevitable fate)

[spring light]

What did you take for Moon, or Tower?

[crystal rain]

But scatter is so bad!

[spring light]

wheel of fortune isn't exactly great though

[crystal rain]

This is kind of a problem because of the materials; it doesn't make much sense to me that my character would always carry materials worth 1000+ gold in his pocket, especially for something that has a 3% chance of happening.

[spring light]

the card/scroll itself would "contain" everything needed for the spell to be cast.

[crystal rain]

I did that in the item description, but I was careful not to pick anything more valuable than 100 gold pieces

But if it's fair, perhaps it's better that way

[spring light]

ask your dm

[crystal rain]

But one question: why is Heroes Feast better?

[spring light]

the magician is a card about preparation for a journey ahead (also arguably fool)

[crystal rain]

For the fool, I picked Otto's dance

I'll send you what I've done so far

[lyric viper]

Here's a little question for folk after watching some old crime dramas.

In D&D magic is very real and known. So if someone curses someone with bad luck or worse, and that person dies- would that be a crime in a court of law? Murder? Assisted murder? Who is more at fault and responsible for cause of death?

[fossil hollow]

i feel like hexing someone would be the magical version of assault

[crystal rain]

The Fool - Otto's Iresistible Dance
The Magician - Bigby's Hand
The High Priestess - Modify Memory (My character already has access to all possible divination spells, or will in the future due to a signature ability, so I had to look up the meaning of the reversed card)
The Empress - Mass Cure Wounds
The Emperor - Dominate Person
The Hierophant - Aura of Purity
The Lovers - Geas
The Chariot - Freedon of Movement
Strength - Mental Prision
The Hermit - Wall of Force
Well of Fortune - Scatter
Justice ‐ Great Restoration
The Hangedman ‐ Held Monster

[craggy summit]

If the curse itself was responsible for the death, I feel like that could be an accomplice to murder 🤔

[minor cargo]

In NA, you need to prove guilty mind and guilty action. 👀

So when they casted this spell, did they do it to harm them? That’s for lawyers to argue - and hopefully the PCs come for the ride haha.

Still focusing on NA, there are many ways to “curse” someone with no ill will. If we go out drinking and we drink too much, but you get in your car and kill someone, well… context matters. And so does what you can prove… 👀

[lyric viper]

Just something that tickled my mind. IRL, there have been older court cases that did treat magic as real and punishable, but often was unfairly accusing someone.
But like, in a D&D setting someone could say 'Oh yeah, I put a curse of them in hopes they'd die' and it be genuinely what they did 100%.

But.. did that directly cause it? How'd you handle this from fantasy court case?

[spring light]

...it's going to depend on jurisdictions, where the inciting incident occured, where the potential murder ultimately occured, etc etc.

I think the laws will vary from location to location, with MOST places having laws that hold the spell caster responsible for the results of their spells.

[fossil hollow]

... now you make me want to add this in my feywild fairy tale game

maybe i can also do this in descent into avernus too

[atomic kayak]

Law and Arcane Order (duh duh)

[spring light]

avernus would 100% have laws for this.

[craggy summit]

Very valid point actually 😅 I'd imagine the law would be different in faerun compared to greyhawk

[fossil hollow]

and also if youre in thay or waterdeep

[spring light]

the law in bauldur's gate would be different than the law in waterdeep

[fossil hollow]

(enchantment spells there get death penalty)

[atomic kayak]

Thinking about the nuances of laws (regarding magic or otherwise) is only something I do every once and a while for my setting, but it can be fun

[lyric viper]

Like if someone is found murdered and then Spooky McSpook goes on about 'haha, I cursed them and now they're dead, vengence is mine!' but wasn't the one who actually stabbed the victim, who's more at fault for the murder?

(Ignoring some of the technicalities of exactly what spell was used- although I guess you could go into enchantment spells and accountability, like committing crimes under suggestion/domination)

[fossil hollow]

one thing that pops into my mind rn is treating guidance like a minor performance enchancing drug

[spring light]

Charles Manson did not personally murder (some) people, and instead directed others to do it. Both parties were held accountable.

[fossil hollow]

Manshoon's first name is charles??

[spring light]

as such, the caster would be held responsible as would someone who stabbed the victim

[craggy summit]

Spooky mcspook had premeditated and intended for the murder to happen. Even if spooky used a curse to make someone else commit the crime. So spooky would be found guilty

[spring light]

<_< me over here studying law almost specifically about these things irl

but that's a specific set of laws for a specific location, though the underlying principles are also taught.

[fossil hollow]

objection, the murderer was fond to have been planning this for 2 years prior, can we really say it was because of the curse if it was already predetermined before the hex?

[lyric viper]

But then you find out stabby mcstab stabbed the victim during a coincidental mugging. Is Stabby actually guilty of murder if it was Spooky's magic that caused it? manslaughter? Just mugging and/or assault?

[crimson gulch]

Not guilty by way of Enchantment sound legit to me

[fossil hollow]

Pleading for insanity enchanted

[jolly agate]

Coolest place in Faerun?

[spring light]

had the curse not been placed the victim would have only been mugged, and possibly assaulted.

[marble lion]

In this case the murderer would probably still be accountable

[spring light]

the curse lead to the murder of the victim.

[marble lion]

The only question is whether the curser is held accountable fully or only for willingness to risk death occurring

[spring light]

You'd probably also be facing magical malpractice suits if you were using your magic for harming people in such a way.

found innocent of magical crimes, but found liable for civil penalties

[lyric viper]

I suppose you'd also have to prove Spooky McSpook actually had enough power to pull this off. Could just be claiming credit, but never actually affected anything, even if they boast they did.

[fossil hollow]

woudlnt they be charged for lying in court

[spring light]

Places where magic is more regulated and codified will have tests for that, and laws.

places where the area is more wild/lawless would be less likely to have laws and tests for that

[lyric viper]

But they genuinely believe they did successfully curse them.

They're not lying, they're just possibly delusional about their actual arcane skill/power. You'd have to prove the spell actually worked.

[spring light]

found innocent of this crime, but found to be a danger to self and/or others separately.

but again, places that are trying people for magical crimes will likely have ways to test for various magics

otherwise we just get witch trials

[fossil hollow]

the judgement of the oratrice mecha-

[woven flint]

The judgement of Timothy "Moth" Ti-Moth

[fossil hollow]

Its actually Timothy "Moth" [Government Name]

[woven flint]

Blah blah blah

[thin smelt]

Has anyone here ever started their own guild in a game before?

[iron sedge]

I hate being a forever dm ong I just wanna play bro

[hot marlin]

Define "guild" please

[torpid hound]

#looking-for-dm

[iron sedge]

No I mean irl

[hot marlin]

Because my old economic history classes are haunting me and when I hear "guild" I think "corporation of craftsmen backed up by the state in order to establish a monopoly on their profession"

[torpid hound]

Game store

[hot marlin]

That's basically what a guild is, btw. It's a professional association with official recognition that regulates training, production, standards and competition within their trade, generally with the goal of establishing a monopoly. And with a certain form of solidarity (as long as you paid your dues)

[crimson gulch]

being able to build a local community of gamers is a treat allright, takes some doing but its very worth it

[hot marlin]

So while guilds are compared to unions, it's not quite correct. It could be more accurately said to be a prior version of the modern company, without the free market.

Well... The modern company is a distinct legal entity while a guild is just an association of people who all own their own shops. So... Yeah, not that at all

[thin smelt]

By guild I just meant an organization with a shared goal and structure, not necessarily always craftsmen or one state backed

So, the traditional definition plus private groups and including things like thieves guilds, mercenary companies, etc

But still a headquartered and structured organization

[minor cargo]

In game? Kind of. We built a “Justice League”. And the service was basically dealing with very large, dangerous threats haha.

[spring light]

...a party with a bastion?

[thin smelt]

That would qualify, yes

Although I meant more like an active business with members than just a home base they own

Think Fair Tail, the various factions in Skyrim, etc

[thin smelt]

How did that go?

[timber cove]

i'm in three campaigns currently, 2 3.5 and one i;m running thats 2024

[minor cargo]

Haha pretty great. We’d identify a threat, figure out who to send, then play out the adventure.

We stopped playing after a few years because another player and I had a falling out. They might have kept playing but I did need to leave that group.

[solar nebula]

how to get a girlfriend (in DND)

[fossil hollow]

ask your DM

[solar nebula]

if a gnome and human do baby and there's half gnome and then the same thing with dwarf and human and if half dwarf and half gnome make baby will that be a human

[fossil hollow]

same answer as above

[spring light]

mechanically it is either a gnome or a human. dwarf or human.

[solar nebula]

shouldn't it technically be an elf

[spring light]

if there's an elf involved, then it's either elf or whatever they had a child with.

[woven flint]

If an elf ISN'T involved, then, mechanically it wouldn't be in the question

[spring light]

que?

oh. yes.

[woven flint]

I mean, an Elf isn't involved with a Gnome and Human or a Dwarf and Human union, so why would it be an elf? as Elves aren't the offspring of either

[spring light]

adoption?

[woven flint]

They were... talking about Gnomes, Humans and Dwarves having babies with eachother.

[livid slate]

Wait so fighters indomitable can give a + 20 to any saving throw at level 20? 😭 D:

That seems very strong and cheesable

[spring light]

it's level 20.

[livid slate]

Fair, but even then at lower levels that can be incredibly strong.

[craggy summit]

Yeah to be fair, most (if not, then all) classes are pretty strong at level 20 😅

[severe rampart]

at lower levels, yeah, but it's level 20

[livid slate]

A smart fighter could do a lot at just like level 13

[spring light]

Me over here playing pf1e, with my level 12 character getting a +38

[woven flint]

They only get to use it a few times per long rest

For a level 20 fighter, thats pretty much just a legendary resistance

[livid slate]

I love that example lol

[severe rampart]

What is pathfinder?

[livid slate]

Ain't the DC higher tho?

[woven flint]

Another TTRPG

[spring light]

yes, my spell save dc is regularly 25 or higher

[severe rampart]

did it come from DnD or is it something else entirely?

[spring light]

the numbers are more numbery overall

[woven flint]

Yes and No

[spring light]

it's a spinoff of 3.5

[woven flint]

People that worked on older editions of D&D made pathfinder

Pathfinder 2e is trying to basically be its own system

[atomic kayak]

It was very literally made as a spin off of dnd

The newer edition is more of its own thing

[spring light]

"d&d just doesn't have enough rules and mechanics, we should do something about it."

[severe rampart]

so it's DnD, but in an alternate path that it found

[woven flint]

Sure, you could put it like that

[severe rampart]

like a... Pathfinder?

[craggy summit]

ba dum tss 🥁

[spring light]

pf1e is functionally just 3.5 if it stayed 3.5 (3.75 is the joking term)

pf2 and pf2 revised are much more their own thing

[radiant night]

Howdy

[woven flint]

I apologize, but that was just a bad joke.

[spring light]

the spell: Find the Path

[blissful ibex]

is basically pointless

[radiant night]

How are yall

[severe rampart]

A joke's a joke, take it or leave it

[spring light]

it's just to have a pathfinder joke, i'm certain

[severe rampart]

That's an actual spell?

[woven flint]

Pathfinder is more mechanically crunchy than newer Editions of D&D

[severe rampart]

maybe it was made for that "Worst Adventure in DnD" where you accidentally miss the road

[spring light]

very much so, also more granular

[blissful ibex]

probably, but like; a spell that tells you where a place is that basically requires you've been to said place is really funny

[craggy summit]

It is, basically it'll show you the path to a location you name 😌

[woven flint]

Also, there are.. a lot of very specfic features lmao

[blissful ibex]

but you have to be familiar with said place, which going byu the rules in other spells, more or less means you have to have been there

[severe rampart]

does Pathfinder also have lore

[woven flint]

"If you do a backflip under a full moon in a wafflehouse parking lot you get a +3 status bonus to charisma checks" /silly

[blissful ibex]

at whih point, you should genrally know where said place is
like the only relevant use for it is if you get hit with a teleportation mishap and need to see where the hell you are without use of Navagator's tools

[spring light]

pf has tons of lore

[woven flint]

Most TTRPG systems do, yea

[blissful ibex]

Here's the spell btw: https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2618881-find-the-path

[timid anvil]

If you want to discuss Pathfinder or other TTRPG systems please do so in #non-dnd-topics :)

[spring light]

my bad

[severe rampart]

time to hit up my local waffle house

[blissful ibex]

Like, I'd give it a pass if it at least didn't eat concentration for an entire day

[woven flint]

Sorry, specifically in North Carolina

can't be anywhere else because you won't get the stat buff

[spring light]

now... if you're doing a survival exploration heavy game, find the path might actually have some utility

[blissful ibex]

local fight club, more like

[blissful ibex]

except that's also the exact sort of game that spell would be banned in

[spring light]

and goodberry, and anything else that would make sense to use in such a game.

[blissful ibex]

plus the 'You must be familiar with the location' means it's mostly just for when you get lost in the woods and need to return to the road; and a 6th level slot for what a survival check would otherwise accomplish is kinda of meh

[blissful ibex]

Goodberry, Create/Destroy Water, Create Food and Drink, Elementalism, Leomund's Tiny Hut, Find the Path, Create Bonfire, etc.

though I'm partial to just stripping the 'counts as food' text from goodberry so druid/rangert can still use it as a pure healing spell

[woven flint]

Find Familiar is good for survival as well, if you ask me

[blissful ibex]

it's good, but it doesn't immediately invalidate it like the other listed options do

[woven flint]

If your survival problems are completely invalidated by avalible spells then you're not really doing good survival imo.

[spring light]

no magic, gritty hard core survival exploration d&d!

[blissful ibex]

yes but big parts of survival are; Securing Food, Drink, Shelter, and Heat

[craggy summit]

Throw the nonspell casters into the survival world 👀 or atleast the non nature casters

[woven flint]

I'm aware.

[blissful ibex]

and the listed spells completely remove that from contention; I like having them there so you can feel useful (and eat up resources to solve non spellcasting problems) but also if the DM wants resource scarcity to be a major theme, they're justified in banning those

[spring light]

...just require material components.

[woven flint]

Literally

But, also, don't give your party long rests as often, make a looming threat or problem tailing behind them so they can't use spells as often

there are very simple ways to make spellcasting NOT trivialize survival

[spring light]

yeah, make long rests more infrequent is a strong nerf

[woven flint]

Incentivize rationing spellslots as much as you would ration food

"You could use goodberry now, but you don't know when you're going to get your next long rest..."

[spring light]

is that really how you want to use a valuable spell slot?

[woven flint]

Most spells that trivialize survival REQUIRE a spell slot to cast (Except leomunds tiny hut) but then they could get ambushed when they wake up after resting in an unsafe location for too long

[blissful ibex]

We're running one with the spells banned, Gritty realism (8 hour SR, 7 day LR), and sanctuary LR rules c:

[humble cairn]

The spell does require a material component.

[spring light]

yes. but a lot of dm ignore that, and well spell focuses

[humble cairn]

Goodberry, I mean.

[woven flint]

I, personally, wouldn't ban the spells as it just gives players more reasons to use their spells

[humble cairn]

Spell focus is a material component.

[blissful ibex]

it requires a non conumed mistletoe, which is one of the druidic focus options anyway

[humble cairn]

Yes, that is a material component.

[spring light]

yes, and im saying require the materials rather than just using the spell focus.

[blissful ibex]

yes but the material component isn't consumed

not unless you wind it back to like 2e~3e and make it require a handful of berries

[spring light]

houserules requires a berry of some sort for it to be cast on.

lol! I would require the handful of berries! if i were going the survival exploration style game

[blissful ibex]

you should bring back Badberry as well >:3

[spring light]

i have literally never heard of badberry, but it sounds metal as heck

[craggy summit]

What about neutral berry? 👀

[woven flint]

Dysnetery berry

[blissful ibex]

translating it to 5e, it'd be Goodberry except it removes 1hp

[craggy summit]

Or a lawful evil berry 🤔

[covert root]

I prefer Halle Berry.

[woven flint]

I prefer Barry Allen

[covert root]

I’m so disappointed in you for using the wrong berry name.

[blissful ibex]

see, what you do is that it makes 10 berries, but 1d6 of them are badberries

and they make you lose a day of food by puking it up

[woven flint]

Your disappointment is meaningless to me :3

[spring light]

that doesn't strike me as fun.

[blissful ibex]

it's gambling

[spring light]

that doesn't strike me as fun.

[woven flint]

In the game... about Gambling?

[spring light]

touche, though i'd hardly call d&d gambling.

[fossil hollow]

you dont have reckless players who would gamble their characters away?

[craggy summit]

maybe not gambling per say, but definitely risky at times

[covert root]

It’s not gambling. It’s chance, yes, but it’s not winner and losers; it’s collaborative storytelling.

[woven flint]

The whole game
Revolves around rolling dice to make things happen

I think it could be considered gambling

[spring light]

oh i absolutely have players who are risk takers and gamble

[craggy summit]

you're counting on doing everything with a random d20 roll

[spring light]

so any game with dice is gambling?

[covert root]

By definition, that’s not what gambling means.

[woven flint]

I don't care lol
I'm just being silly

[spring light]

any video game is gambling. . . ? there are random chances in essentially all video games?

[covert root]

Just a little gamble joke. Not that deep.

[woven flint]

You think this as a "Gotcha" moment, but... I'm not really that invested in the argument as its just being silly

[hot marlin]

Gambling is generally defined as "risking money (or another item of value) on an event of uncertain outcome, with the possibility of gaining an increased return."

[covert root]

Although, gambling in-game is fun. I love Three-Dragon Ante. My leftover inspiration or luck is nice for making money.

[craggy summit]

Someone who knows what three dragon ante is I see 👀

[woven flint]

🤔
Sounds like D&D to me

[spring light]

...you bet on d&d? baller

[hot marlin]

Sounds like what the characters do, but not quite what the players do

[covert root]

It’s a glorious thing to fill my pockets with other men’s coin.

[woven flint]

No, but, if you feel like your character is "Of Value" to you..

[craggy summit]

I learnt to play 3DA because an adventure book I was running had NPC's playing it, and I wanted to know how to play it just Incase my players wanted to play it too

[craggy summit]

It's like stealing but legal 🔥

[woven flint]

Well, Gambling isn't legal EVERYWHERE

[spring light]

so stop playing d&d or any game of chance i guess?

[woven flint]

Nah, be gay, do crime 🔥🔥🔥

[spring light]

chill

[swift wren]

Bring the slot machine and the poker deck, we be having some dungeons in this dragon

[crimson gulch]

my players gamble with their pcs lives and stories daily

[woven flint]

You've never heard of
"Be Gay, Do Crime"?

[craggy summit]

DnD? Nah I prefer SM&P. slot machines and poker

[severe rampart]

How do you mean?

[spring light]

i have.

[crimson gulch]

the peril they face is imaginiary, they are in no danger as real people.
but their charicters are in so much danger

[hot marlin]

Again: Not all games of chance are gambling.

It's only gambling when you are betting. With real stuff

[severe rampart]

Do you have the Deck of Many Things in every campaign?

[woven flint]

Is my sanity real stuff, incubus?

[fossil hollow]

unfortunately, he does

[spring light]

they're going off the rails, i don't find it worthwhile to continue with them.

[hot marlin]

Now, whether it psychologically counts as gambling... The question would be better answered by a gambling addict. If D&D triggers the addiction, then maybe?

[severe rampart]

Which of his campaigns are you in

[hot marlin]

That would be an interesting research subject though...

[fossil hollow]

im in and out of his LGS games, bit too busy recently

[reef copper]

How would you set up the study?

[woven flint]

Ti-Moth is inspired by Urizt, too bad he doesn't make encounters as deadly as his >;P

[hot marlin]

No idea, not my professional field

[crimson gulch]

yes

[severe rampart]

How deadly are Urizt's encounters??

[fossil hollow]

Thats it, im making Tales of Alltheris every tuesday

[crimson gulch]

YES

[severe rampart]

Even in Curse of Strahd?

[crimson gulch]

yes

[severe rampart]

... how can one... incorporate that into their campaign... ✍️

[fossil hollow]

... the campaign already known for the Death House?

[woven flint]

You meanie, Horizon and I have Eve of Ruin

[fossil hollow]

thats the point

[severe rampart]

I asked because I'm running Curse of Strahd right now

[woven flint]

Don't do it!

[crimson gulch]

as loot

[blissful ibex]

The only thing I fear in CoS is ||the damned animated broom in the Death House q_q||

[fossil hollow]

we smoked that to tinder in EoR

[severe rampart]

Great, they'll find it in the death house then, for some reason they want to get back to the Death House with their new party after they TPK'ed in it

[blissful ibex]

we almost TPKed to it from basically full health

had 1 player left with like 1~2 hp

[fossil hollow]

the legacy of the broom lives on

[woven flint]

Its clearly important

[fossil hollow]

Right click, hover over ban

[severe rampart]

a lot of people have run Curse of Strahd here right?

[fossil hollow]

Its one of the modules i refuse to touch rn

[blissful ibex]

I've run half of it; we're technically currently on an over year long hiatus

[crimson gulch]

i have ran curse of strahd 3 times, the 4th begins in a week

[severe rampart]

well, my party wants to get back in Durst Manor after TPKing, so I wonder (Curse of Strahd spoilers) ||How I could incoporate the house in mid-repair while they enter it||

[blissful ibex]

also it was a moderately homebrewed version that was mixing in themes and lore from TMA