dnd-discussion

[proper forum]

Replying is not the same as pinging

[spring light]

debatable

[lime relic]

OH I didn't know that counted as pinging sorry!! 😭😭

[severe rampart]

Kit, you could go to the three dots of the message, then click on the "apps" Then "alert the mods"

[proper forum]

I insist it is not

[spring light]

i kid, i kid. ping me or highlight me all day, it's whatever.

[tall forge]

It pings and you can choose not to, so it counts

[spring light]

seems like a matter of opinion.

[severe rampart]

I like being pinged, it's much easier to read the reply

[spring light]

hard agree

[proper forum]

Eh whatever

[woven flint]

If I ever get pinged, I simply explode

[craggy summit]

If you turn the @ on, then it's a ping. if it's off then yes it's different

[tall forge]

Theres literally an “@ on or off” button

[lime relic]

I mean guys deleted the AI now as I said was against rules so no issues hopefully

[craggy summit]

mmmm pocket fireball

[spring light]

someone posted some ai generated content? yeah, for better or worse that's disallowed here

[woven flint]

I didn't finish

I explode The people who ping me >:]

[severe rampart]

Ah well good then. Ai isn't really art, at least in my opinion.

[mighty wharf]

I'm planning on bodysnatching with Magic Jar to become an earth elemental. My DM is allowing spells from both 2014 and 2024 so Suggestion>Nystuls (2024)>magic jar is something I can do lol. I'm thinking about making a trans allegory out of my character. There's just too many different ways to take them.

[proper forum]

Rn I'm contemplating of how my evil character is gonna manipulate the good and innocent celestial warlock into joining her 😈

[lime relic]

Yeah why I asked they put it in the art channel but I think mod saw as messages where deleted

[craggy summit]

i will be the most noble sacrifice that the world has ever seen

[woven flint]

Becoming an Earth Elemental I significantly weaker than being a PC though 😭

[severe rampart]

Learned this the hard way when I polymorphed the human fighter into a giant ape so he could have a kaiju battle with a giant bat

[proper forum]

Every dm I had so far has used AI and it's exhausting

[mighty wharf]

So you keep all of your player statistics and class features and such, you just adopt the earth elemental's abilities. It's like a weird polymorph.

[tall forge]

Planar binding

[mighty wharf]

That doesn't achieve the same thing at all

[tall forge]

I just mean add it on

[woven flint]

They cast Banishment on you and since you're an Earth Elemental you get banished back to your homeplane
Skill issue

[severe rampart]

I try to ignore it, as they haven't overstepped or anything, but if they ever turn my character into AI slop then that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

[lime relic]

That's really sad 😭 my bf just has me do all the art for him 😂

[tall forge]

That way you get multiple chances at suggestion

[proper forum]

My current one has done that. Without asking. Am I gonna argue with him? No. Because I tried to and he didn't listen.

[tall forge]

Magic circle to trap em, too

[mighty wharf]

The biggest things I'd get are high strength, high con, and some immunities primarily immunity to exhaustion which I can use to break convergent future.

[severe rampart]

I take pride in having commissioned local artists for every single art of my PC, and even sharing it to all of my campaign party members because he's too adorable not to share

[feral fulcrum]

Doesn't that take like ten minutes to cast?

[tall forge]

Magic circle usually is first

[astral bobcat]

Powerscaling in 5e is kind of crazy right? 24 cultists is a moderate difficulty encounter for four level 2 characters.

[proper forum]

I just drew art of my character myself after. That's how I'd rather do it.

[tall forge]

Via elaborate traps of making them walk in

[tall forge]

An hour*

[feral fulcrum]

Meh, not really, and I'm pretty sure action economy would devastate that few players. Especially that low level, with how little HP they have.

[wintry spindle]

A lot of my friends use heroforge to make their pcs

[severe rampart]

Whole lot better than AI

Picrew is also good

[tall forge]

Im currently learning to draw

[proper forum]

We do that to. I just don't like how short and stocky it makes all the characters look so I prefer drawing them myself.

[wintry spindle]

I used to look up images for npcs at pinterest but most of those are now ai images

[tall forge]

And drew my (potential) player character for the future

[woven flint]

I'm currently learning blood magic :] /silly

[proper forum]

You got nothing to lose. I'm not good but I keep trying.

[severe rampart]

I used to draw, but then my inspiration for drawing was revealed to be a weirdo so I just stopped years ago

[tall forge]

Heh, i have no inspiration

[wintry spindle]

I wish i could draw like Kyle Ferrin, i would like to make my npc tokes his art style

[mighty wharf]

One of my friends wanted to join the campaign DURING OUR FIRST SESSION without a character and my DM tried suggesting using an AI generated character which my friend then agreed to 💀

[lime relic]

Commissioning small artists also something that can be done

[mighty wharf]

Thankfully they never did, but still

[prisma latch]

God forbid you just use a premade

[lime relic]

Is he popular?

[wintry spindle]

He made the art for the tabletop game Root

[severe rampart]

The premades are right there!

[lime relic]

EWWWWW

[prisma latch]

AI really thinks it knows the rules, and it really doesn't know the rules

[proper forum]

FYI, if you have no way of having a good representation/image of your character without using AI just tell me to draw them. I will do it for free. I know that not everyone has money to commission a professional artist.

[spring light]

kinda like a lot of players

[mighty wharf]

Even the premade I wouldn't feel comfortable with. Make a character you're invested in so you're not a uninvested problem player please.

[lime relic]

Soon I'll be called ai because I drew an extra finger one time

[tall forge]

Yeah, art argument aside

Its just objectively bad tool for the mechanics of dnd

Even BG3’s code doesnt know how the rules work

[prisma latch]

Anyone who has dndBeyond make their character sheet as a substitute for knowing how to make one themselves

[wintry spindle]

Well today with comissions of artist a lot of artists use also AI so you dont want to get scammed

[tall forge]

Look at multiattack and monk

[spring light]

every time i've tried to use an ai tool to run as either a dm or a player, it's not a great experience.

[severe rampart]

Point taken, but you can't tell an AI it's wrong, it literally cannot imagine itself being wrong

[lime relic]

What artists u talking to like dayum XD

[spring light]

kinda like a lot of players

[wintry spindle]

On fiver there is a lot of "artists" that use AI

they say its hand drawn but its not

[proper forum]

Find one who for sure doesn't use AI and commission them

[craggy summit]

Did you just cast darkness? Because you're throwing shade 🤣

[prisma latch]

It's like: "I totally apologize for my mistake. Here's the corrected ruling" (still wrong)

[lime relic]

Yeah try vgen or literally anywhere else XD

[severe rampart]

I'm glad to have never experienced this, have commissioned over 15(?) By now and was satisfied with most results

[lime relic]

commissioned probably 100 no wonder I myself am a starving artist 😂

[rough basalt]

ye getting art for anything nowadays is a minefield

[severe rampart]

I spent like 15 bucks on all artworks combined, it is both a blessing and a curse to live in a third world country

[mighty wharf]

I've tried AI for DnD before like answering my billions of ruling questions and it hallucinates all the time the only thing I use it for anymore is calculating the probability of dice rolls.

[spring light]

there are actual dice probability tools that exist

[lime relic]

Isn't it better to like just look up in the books?

[severe rampart]

Pick up a pencil and do math

[noble basin]

or just calculate it yourself

[woven flint]

I simply use my imagination instead of worrying about art

[wintry spindle]

well you should never us AI for informations its a probability machine not a fact machine

[lime relic]

Yikes rip your artists like dayum 😭 meanwhile I don't get a lotta Comms due to how high I have to prices mine because Great British pound 😭

[mighty wharf]

They're so much clunkier than copy pasting a prompt into ChatGPT and it actually shows the math so I can verify it. I know the math, just need something quick and sloppy for mid session.

[lime relic]

Bruh

[spring light]

you need dice probability charts midsession?

[woven flint]

I thought you said "Clanker" for a second...

[severe rampart]

Conversion rates are crazy!

1 dollar = 60 currency

That also means that the DnD books for me are 1.5k so I'm gonna have to take a summer job💔

[severe rampart]

I think the last words were unnecessary😭

[lime relic]

Dayum now do it with my currency you'll cry it's difficult getting commissioners from outside UK cuz of it tbh DX

[severe rampart]

I've only ever supported local artists

[mighty wharf]

Well yeah because I want to be able to say my character calculated the probability of success for a plan since they have an intelligence of 19 but I'm not that smart and I want to give accurate estimates

They're also a robot, they'd absolutely do that

[severe rampart]

Give a random number, the group isn't gonna fact check it (or hopefully they won't)

[spring light]

😉 just make up numbers

[mighty wharf]

Well I kinda wanna know too because that's what I'D do.

[severe rampart]

Do it the Dr. Stone way (There's a ten billion percent chance of success!)

[woven flint]

We love Dr. Stone

[severe rampart]

Yes Tokii, we love Dr Stone

[still plover]

Hold up, you talking about single d20 rolls?

[woven flint]

I thought you were gonna say
We love Tokii

Now I'm devastated 😔 /joking

[severe rampart]

I went to him yesterday, said I lacked minerals

[tall forge]

No, i love dr stone

[lime relic]

Dr stone is peak

[mighty wharf]

No, single D20 rolls are easy to know the probability for. It's other rolls that are more complicated, like when there is a DC and a modifier. I could track it on paper, but doing that in my head is still difficult. Once I see the math enough times I'll know the answers though so I won't have to keep using the AI to do the math.

Like I'm pretty positive me casting a control spell and forcing a saving throw with a DC of 15 and a +2 modifier is something like a 45% chance of success

[severe rampart]

There's a surprisingly large amount of people here who likes Dr. Stone, I do wonder though, what could you do in a world after thousands(IIRC) of years pass and everyone's petrified?

[mighty wharf]

Well I'm going to say this much, his generator does not work as well as it does irl.

That setup generates a pathetic amount of electricity.

[silk hare]

Gave some science knowledge and Kickstarter some stuff (or at least major hygiene and food reforms for an easier life)

Electricity to some extent is also not that "hard" just time intensive and dependent on available resources such as ferrous metals/ actual magnets and alleviate manual labor that way

[hidden spindle]

Grab Greater Restoration Spell & go to town.

[mighty wharf]

I got it wrong, it's 45% and that's the enemies chance of success

[severe rampart]

Great, okay, time to turn on the device and turn on the rube-goldberg machine to get the miracle fluid to unpetrify me while the others are turned to stone

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah, that'd probably undo petrification

[mighty wharf]

I was going to say that too: with small magnets you can make a small motor and if you reverse the spin it'll be a generator.

It'd work with big magnets too you'd probably want big magnets

[lime relic]

DND XD

[mighty wharf]

Make a bigass fan and put it on your generator, boom now you have a turbine.

And let's do it right this time, how do we make a nuclear reactor from here?

[silk hare]

A centrifuge, sth to heat stuff, bunch of water, some graphite

[severe rampart]

Get lightning to strike a ferrous metal?

[mighty wharf]

Some concrete to encase the uranium cellls right?

[silk hare]

Not necessarily

I mean depends what u mean, the waste or to store the rods?

[mighty wharf]

Well for safety, nuclear reactors typically have a concrete casing around the core don't they?

[silk hare]

Concrete is fine sure, but the main thing for storage is still water

[silk hare]

Well yeah "safety" but that concrete isn't doing all that much by itself

[mighty wharf]

The Three Mile Island one did and that one failed successfully despite what people will tell you.

[mighty wharf]

Yeah the water cools it and boils to power the steam turbine

[silk hare]

Not only, the water actually has multiple applications at the same time

[mighty wharf]

That was a PR problem more than anything

[silk hare]

It DOES cool, but that's only the secondary/tertiary effect actually

Main thing is slowing down the neutrons

• its the working medium aka what actually leads to electrical energy

[mighty wharf]

Wait you can use water as a neutron moderator?

[mighty wharf]

Yeah I knew that

[lime relic]

I'd be the one probably building all this wouldn't I 😭

[silk hare]

Well yeah thats the whole point, the reactor doesnt work by neutrons going super fast and "splitting" the core of another atom, but rather the neutrons being slowed down enough to adhere to other atoms and the induced instability leads to the nucleus breaking apart

The graphite is used to deny access so to speak to the fuel rods

Or rather how "many neutrons" can come into contact

So its a mix of both to some extent, at least generally speaking

But putting all that into a dnd setting would have a lot of bad implications so Id refrain from that haha

[mighty wharf]

Imagine giving a lich a nuclear power plant

[severe rampart]

Nice save from getting too out of topic!

[mighty wharf]

They'd probably say "Let's legalize nuclear bombs"

[marble lion]

id give karsus a nuclear power plant, but a lich?

[undone rain]

Shadow lich money gang

[marble lion]

a lich that is completely warped and mutated by radiation because he kills populations with nuclear warfare, then tours the area to absorb souls, getting irratiated in the meantime

[lime relic]

I mean wouldn't it be more artificer?

[mighty wharf]

I actually wrote "Shadow Wizard Money Gang" as part of my affiliations on my character sheet

[marble lion]

and in the final fight, youd be fighting in a nuke crater, and his opening line would be like "breathe in the aroma"

and you all are only not dying on the spot because you got magic help to tough it out, showing just how broken the lich is

i need to stop listening to phonk right now

[mighty wharf]

That's not how radiation works

[marble lion]

which part?

[mighty wharf]

Breathing it in

Maybe radiaoactive fallout

[marble lion]

okay i did think air could be irratiated BUT thats not necessary for the quote

[mighty wharf]

Yeah you could breathe that in but not radiation itself.

[marble lion]

it would smell like a region just got nuked

[burnt valley]

Lichdom through mutation?

[marble lion]

yeah thats all i mean bunbun

[marble lion]

hmmm fun idea but i meant just a lich i guess. both is cool

[burnt valley]

The phylactery would be encased in a tough, fleshy carapace

[mighty wharf]

I want a Ring of Fireballs so I can release all of them at once and blow something up

[tall forge]

Necklace of fireballs?

[mighty wharf]

Yes

[tall forge]

My players used an 8th level fireball once at lvl 5

[burnt valley]

Shove them down a target's throat as a finisher

[tall forge]

Bc of that item

They almost killed the vampire chasing them who tko’d the paladin

But classic vampire- legendary action ran away

[tall forge]

Tldr.
Its a good item. Get 20

[mighty wharf]

If I'm getting a rare magic item, I want a ring of spell storing. The slot and preparation efficiency is HUGE

I can bypass concentration with it by giving it to a tiny servant

[tall forge]

And thats why i hate chronurgy wizard 😔

[mighty wharf]

That's not even a Chronurgy wizard thing, anyone can do that with the ring

[tall forge]

Yeah but chronurgy gets to do the same thing

[mighty wharf]

You're right. So I can have 2 motes basically

[tall forge]

Heavens forbid a spell storing chronurgy wizard…

Both terrible and also aura farming

[mighty wharf]

Yeah I'm already my DMs worst nightmare. He let me use silvery barbs and regrets it

[silk hare]

wait till u also pick up the lucky feat...

[mighty wharf]

I have the lucky feat actually I took it over warcaster. We have so many frontliners that not many things are breaking my concentration and I can use Lucky to reroll my concentration when they do.

[silk hare]

I mean mathematically you are still better off with warcaster, but resilient consitution is also really good

[mighty wharf]

I wish I could use it to reroll enemy saving throws

[silk hare]

if you get both resilient con + warcaster you are somewhere close to 90% (or higher depending on lvl)

or a bit lower at T1

[bronze geyser]

Dude… do we know each other?

[kind bramble]

Need some advice, we get 2 uncommon and 1 rare items in a campaign im joining at level 7 as a changeling necromancer (and point buy 2014 ruleset) i have two options

Either uncommon: headband of intellect flat 19 int, wand of magic missiles. Rare: arcane grimoire +2 or uncommon: arcane grimoire +1, wand of magic missiles. Rare: amulet of health for a flat high con stat instead

[mighty wharf]

I took lucky for my own saving throws that aren't for concentration, such as charm effects and such.

[silk hare]

yeh I get that, fair enough, just saying thats a nice combo

[severe rampart]

the dragon has been fed.

0 days without someone feeding the dragon

[bronze geyser]

The dragon is cute

[severe rampart]

Don't worry, it's just a joke here, common mistake a lot of people do

[severe rampart]

It seeks to destroy as all, when it regains enough stamina it will burn everything

[bronze geyser]

Oh no. Not cute at all

Bunny will be careful🐰

[normal canyon]

I found a rat with 2 HP

[mighty wharf]

Oh J think I messed it up. I took an ASI too early and should have taken warcaster from level 0, the ASI at level 9

[still plover]

Try this:
DC 15 with a +2 on the roll.
Take the mod off the DC, that leaves 13.
12 or under is a fail. 12 x 5 is 60, so 60%. You have a 40% chance to succeed.

[autumn goblet]

If a Halfling and a Centaur have a baby

If the top half the child a Halfling and the bottom half a Shetland pony?

[glass granite]

Are you multiclassing? How come at level 9?

[mighty wharf]

Multiclassing yeah, dipped into artificer

[glass granite]

I see

[mighty wharf]

Let me see what the math is currently for my concentration saves

[glass granite]

Did you take your artificer level as your first level or?

[mighty wharf]

So we started the campaign at level 5 and it was my first level

[glass granite]

Aight great

You should have around a +5 to con saves, which is nice

[mighty wharf]

It's around a 97% chance with lucky and my CON bonus, it's just tied to a finite resource but I'm not being hit very often

[glass granite]

assuming what DC?

[mighty wharf]

10

[glass granite]

What’s your con bonus now?

[mighty wharf]

And it's around a 80% chance to succeed wisdom saving throws which is one of my weak points, assuming a DC of 13.

It's a CON saving throw, so +6

[undone rain]

My dms given me a sweet buff for my cleric

[mighty wharf]

Concentration saving throw is on damage, not attack right?

[undone rain]

Mostly situational but still a good one

[glass granite]

Yes, taking damage

[mighty wharf]

I can cast shield for an AC of 24

So you also have to account for something getting through that

[undone rain]

He can see invisibility, cant be blinded and see in the darkness up to 20 feet, and has a +1 deception

[glass granite]

Darkness or magical darkness?

[mighty wharf]

You share senses with your familiar right? So you can use it as a periscope in a fog cloud?

Ig thats for #rules

[undone rain]

Both, he has no darkvision

[glass granite]

Noice

[undone rain]

Hence only 20 feet instead of the usual 60 lol

[glass granite]

You can do some Darkness (the spell) shenanigans now if you have access to it

[undone rain]

Ahh shame he dosent have access to it sadly

[silk hare]

a party member could help you with it 😉

[undone rain]

I believe my cleric serving ilmater will be good. Hes my fav deity

[undone rain]

Nyeeeees

Hm i guess another dnd shows been created, the mighty nein

Is it any good?

[tall forge]

Its pretty good

[halcyon forum]

Mighty Nein is fantasic, yes

[tall forge]

They translate dnd pretty effectively into an animated format

[undone rain]

Hmm alr i might give that show a go

Ive got nothing better to watch and dnd media is always appreciated

(Still hoping for legends of avantris animated show someday)

[hushed talon]

OMG LOA YES

I started listening to the podcast a few days ago, im on episode 13

[marble lion]

for the record its not forgotten realms, its wildemount (critical roll) if you didnt know

[undone rain]

I dont really know what that means, im still pretty semi new

[tidal bough]

Its still dnd but the base setting of DnD is faerun whereas crit role is based in wildemount

Different worlds with different lore

[hot marlin]

The Forgotten Realms are a campaign setting, first developped by Ed Greenwood. Wildemount is the setting of Critical Role.

[undone rain]

Ah thanks teeto

[marble lion]

and different classes etc allowed as well
bloodhunter class for example

[tidal bough]

Nwnw

[marble lion]

i love mighty nein campaign, havent seen the animation, we have a channel for this though in here #critical-role-spoilers

[feral fulcrum]

It's got alot of poorly balanced homebrew, which is typical for Matt Mercer.

[marble lion]

just be careful about spoilers

[tidal bough]

Tbf bloodhunter has drawbacks to counter the power given

[naive cedar]

I always wondered how good Bloodhunter is tbh

[tidal bough]

Its good but I wouldn't say its overpowered or unbalanced

Especially compared to some of the other 3rd party classes/subclasses

[undone rain]

I didnt know it was homebrew at first lol. Now i do but before i thought it was official

[marble lion]

bloodhunter is often seen as way too weak, not strong

i think it got an update though because i remember it being way worse than it is now
and different sources have different numbers as well apparently

i think some stuff was changed around to make it less weak

[undone rain]

Their concept sounds cool but their not great

[marble lion]

so maybe its alright now? i love the class concept personally. i just give people a d12 hit die when people pick it

i used to make it so the hp cost doesnt scale, but with new changes, ill have to rethink that

it might now be too strong if you did that

[tidal bough]

D12 definitely would help

[marble lion]

2d6 extra damage on each attack for example is pretty strong, i think thats what my friend said looking it up last session zero

[tidal bough]

It depends on which subclass you go tbh

The werewolf one is pretty solid for tanking

But the others are reasonably weak by comparison

[marble lion]

i will one day play the lycan

i have a whole concept for it rp wise, but id need to find a table that likes surprises

because yes if i ever play a lycan i want that to be a surprise the first time

[crimson gulch]

i gave a few monsters Graze weapon mastery, that is fun for this

[mighty wharf]

Graze weapon mastery? What does that mean

[crimson gulch]

Graze
If your attack roll with this weapon misses a creature, you can deal damage to that creature equal to the ability modifier you used to make the attack roll. This damage is the same type dealt by the weapon, and the damage can be increased only by increasing the ability modifier.

[mighty wharf]

That is evil.

[glass granite]

Its decent

[crimson gulch]

29 Strenght Dragon with 3 attacks? thats 27 damage at the lowest

[glass granite]

Wait MONSTERS?
Wow

[livid slate]

Whats an actual use for cartomancer

[livid slate]

Is it just cool or can it be practical?

[crimson gulch]

casting a sepll as a bonus action instead of an action, like a once a day quicken spell

[crimson gulch]

my PC death toll for 2026 is at 20 currently

[livid slate]

Ok here's my question now, why not just use metamagic adept?

You can do that + extra times if you use spellslots

[meager fractal]

Holy moly

[mighty wharf]

That's not something to be proud of!

[crimson gulch]

both feats have their uses

[livid slate]

So why cartomancer?

[crimson gulch]

Sure it is, i am a full time professional Dungeonmaster that prides themselves on running a challanging game

why not? its a fun flavorful ability

[livid slate]

Fair, practically wise kinda worse
Design wise :3

[crimson gulch]

you also dont have to have the spell prepared, it just has to be on your spell list

[livid slate]

Oh that's good for people like druids

[crimson gulch]

thats good for any spellcaster really

[glass granite]

Also, I don’t think it consumes a spell slot when you cast it

So in 2024 I think you can cast a regular leveled spell as your action and use it as your bonus action

Oh wait no

I forgot how it worked, ignore that

[crimson gulch]

it 100% consumes a spell slot

[glass granite]

Mhm

For some reason my 8am brain thought it didn’t
I need some tea…

[stoic haven]

Morning nugget. Tea? This early?

[glass granite]

I mean, people drink coffee for caffeine in the morning. What’s wrong with tea?

[stoic haven]

I always think of Tea as a calming experience, and mainly I don't drink coffee and earliest I've seen people drink tea is around 2 pm

[glass granite]

I drink tea when I want either caffeine or when I just wanna taste tea.
Currently, fulfilling both of those requirements

[meager fractal]

the spell doesn't make a sound to cast either

[glass granite]

For prestidigitation yeah

[meager fractal]

won't always be relevant but sometimes that's a gamechanger

[solemn cliff]

So never even touched warlock before. And I'm doing pact of the blade with longbow. How exactly does it work? Lets say i have oathbow. Do I get the benefits of oathbow still as my pact weapon?

[strong pendant]

I love Eberron ❤️

The westmarch I’m in rn is currently set in sharn and I really do love it fr, it’s my first time in the setting

Current characters are a fire genasi wm sorcerer from the elemental plans and a drow psi warrior from Xendrik

[jovial shadow]

Agreed. Hot tea for me is niche. Just maxing I might feel like some hot tea. Or hot tea with lemon if I am sick, or warm up if outside when it snowing. Iced tea of course in the summer to cool off. Coffee is strictly for the morning. Unlike Tea I cannot drink cold coffee. I won't even drink room temperature coffee. Yuck.

[stoic haven]

I really like Earl Grey Tea, and Apple Cinnamon

[rough basalt]

I could use some tea.

[jovial shadow]

Flavored hot tea is the best. At one point I used to try the flavored coffee, but the ones I liked didn't have caffeine it was just for drink

[iron herald]

I used to be a coffee fiend, but these days I try to go for lower caffeine intake. Decaf coffee in the morning, black tea after lunch.

[minor cargo]

Yesterday I broke my record and finished my third litre of coffee before noon.

It’s been a wild week. Even had to cancel D&D just because I just had no energy left. 😩

[feral fulcrum]

I'm looking forward to my next session. Dinner with a Fey Noble, bound to be an interesting affair.

[inner silo]

Will you pick their pockets?

[feral fulcrum]

No, my group has stolen exactly one item across the whole campaign (Looting from evil bad guys, different matter altogether), and we're there as part of a set of three trials, after outrunning the Wild Hunt.

[inner silo]

Oo, that sounds cool! What are the trials for?

[feral fulcrum]

Well for my Charecter, it's for earning the right to be blessed with Change by Pan (The Satyr God), which will effectively result in my psychotic Wizard Fairy Ascending into an Archfey, and becoming an Alicorn Centaur.

As a result of Homebrew, Wish Spam, and eating Energy Fields bigger then her head on the regular, she's been coming apart at the seams, and needs to become something Greater, to avoid exploding and leveling a small town sooner rather then later.

Always eat the Energy fields bigger then your head, they do fun things. (If they don't kill you.).

[inner silo]

Where did you find the energy fields?

[feral fulcrum]

Various places around my DM's homebrew setting over the last three years or so.

[inner silo]

Is it like a futuristic setting?

[feral fulcrum]

Nope, High Fantasy.

[inner silo]

So energy fields are like blobs of magic?

[feral fulcrum]

They're Non-specific things, Energy Fields Bigger Then Your Head is basically an old D&D meme.

The weirdest example from my campaign with no context, is I ate a Dwarf, who, apperently, had a divine spark of a god in them, and that kicked off the whole "Literally going to explode." bit.

[inner silo]

Was the dwarf alive?

[inner silo]

Also thanks for explaining this!

[feral fulcrum]

He was until he wasn't, then I offered to dispose of the body to prevent resurrection. (Boy did that backfire later. Long story involving an Adamatine Heart, a Wizard Tower set to self destruct, and some seat of the pants Arcana Rolls and a Group Decision that resulted in an Immortal Adamantine Dwarf being Charmed by our Bard into Supplexing and Evil Vampire Wizard.)

[inner silo]

Were there necromancers around or was he your enemy so you didn't want anyone to bring him back?

[feral fulcrum]

He was an enemy by circumstance, it was more of a Politeness/Fey Obligation thing for a Dwarf Lady who very much did not like him.

If I had a nickel for every time my Wizard Fairy has kept a Wizard Tower from taking out a chunk of a City, I'd have two nickels, which isn't alot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.

[stoic haven]

Luckily I dont need caffeine to have energy, it actually makes my energy go down

[inner silo]

Dam. So the poor guy got eaten because of an accident eccentially?

[inner silo]

Do you keep the towers after you stop them?

[feral fulcrum]

The first time I dumped a faulty, teleporting tower into the Feywild by hijacking the proccess, and through resulting politcing, did end up with a Tower that I yoinked from the Feywild during said teleportation shenangins. The second belonged to a Nation I was helping a Princess retake from a Vampire Vizier, and is now the domain of the revived Immortal Dwarf.

The Immortal Dwarf I aim to pointedly ignore for as long as inhumanly possible. Because who wants to tussle with a guy made out of Adamantine. :V

[cerulean monolith]

Anybody have experience with boats being transported across large distances of land?

[tidal bough]

Has anyone ever used any alternative rulings for aoo and if so what were they and how did they work?

[inner silo]

He sounds like a useful guy to know though

[tidal bough]

Irl or in-game?

[inner silo]

Well congrats on the tower then! Having one is a cannon event for a wizard

[cerulean monolith]

Well this is #dnd-discussion, but real life experience might be useful too

[feral fulcrum]

When you say boats, are you talking Canoe, or Caravel, because there's a distinct difference. (And the latter is a Ship, rather then a Boat.)

[tidal bough]

Ye, wasn't sure if you meant for rulings or for realism.

Itd depend on the size, theres a sport called Waka ama (theres afew different names depending on where youre from for it) where the boats can be transported by hand and carried easily enough by a single person if its a one man vessel or by multiple if its a multiple person vessel.

In terms of dnd characters, they are insane in terms of carrying weight and stamina/strength, etc.

As for large boats youd need some form of wagon to assist

[cerulean monolith]

It’s a war boat. Big enough to serve as a tier 3 bastion.

War ship I guess?

[feral fulcrum]

Then I'm sorry to say that no, there's no IRL (Or Rule Supported, outside of a Spelljammer Hem), way of Transporting something that big over land in one piece.

[tidal bough]

Oh yeah definitely a high tier wagon with some sort of multiple heavy transport beasts of burden required

[feral fulcrum]

Short Distances, certainly, over any apreciable distance? not happening.

[cerulean monolith]

Darn. I need to get my party and their two boats across roughly 700 miles of land. Figure I may need to bring in a wizard

No spells come to mind they can do that either

[craggy summit]

What level is the party?

[fast latch]

Asides from what I’ve already figured out (The Charm Ray eye of a Beholder because “Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder” and it’s the same effect as the potion, and rose petals because those are typically associated with romance), what ingredients would be used to brew a Philter of Love?

[feral fulcrum]

Outside of Spelljammers, there's no RAW way of doing it.

[cerulean monolith]

12 when they do this

[feral fulcrum]

You're better off homebrewing it into a Flying boat with some expensive Wizard Work, or Converting it into a Spelljammer, eitherway, it becomes a Flying ship.

[tidal bough]

You could have a enlarge/reduce homebrew item that allows them to reduce the weight and size of the boat and have it specifically work as an augment for the boat

[tawdry sentinel]

Ship in a bottle

[tidal bough]

That as well

[craggy summit]

The only thing I can think of is teleportation circle if they've been there before

[storm tide]

i never knew that the most difficult part about DnD (even in digital form) its hard to gather the players and play rather than the actuall game it self XD

[clear goblet]

Just wait till you encounter the pure homebrew experience 💀

[storm tide]

i just wanna play fr i started 2 campaigns 1 with friends and one with a random group... i respect personal life ofc and jobs etc.. but I like the game a lot i could be playing everyday but its not only me on the table

[rough basalt]

Yeah a lot of people like the idea of playing dnd more than actually playing.

[clear goblet]

That's fair tbh. Even for people who do enjoy it, it's hard. Pretty much everyone in my current party wishes we could play way more often, but schedules get in the way a lot too.

[clear goblet]

Then there's a party that I was spectating that just dissolved so fast for this reason

[buoyant oar]

The most successful groups that I've had was a dungeon master sustained themselves for one reason.

The game happens on X day of the week at next time if you can make it great if your schedule precludes you from making it long-term. It was nice playing with you

Consistency essentially

[crimson gulch]

Huge facts, 10/10 no notes

[rough basalt]

Ye schedule issues mostly stop when you find people who will make it rather than hold out for people who will only when they're bored. (Other than your own having to cancel for reasons)

[crimson gulch]

Setting the game time in stone, and then finding players is step one in game prep

[buoyant oar]

With the exception of the winter holidays, my paid campaign on Wednesdays has missed two sessions of the last year and one of those reasons is because we were all together in person at gencon.

[silk hare]

tbh I dont get people that say they want to play dnd and then dont commit? like its the same as any other hobby

[rough basalt]

Cause they're "too busy"

[clear goblet]

Yeah it's really easy for my current group because we play every Wednesday within a specific time frame so it's always the same. But it's practically impossible to plan outside of that timeframe

[silk hare]

like if you want to play, day x or days xyz (at least one) is reserved for it at X timeframe

[silk hare]

if they are "too busy" constantly then why even play in the first place

[buoyant oar]

There could be a myriad of reasons.

I have one just recently. Guy was super excited to play, he signed up for my games. We did a session zero. We did a meet and greet. Greet everything was super great and he had to bail because he didn't clear it with his wife who wasn't exactly happy of not getting to see her husband on a certain night of the week

[crimson gulch]

some times its a DM skill issue, they want to play good dnd but some games dont measure up.
i have had players who get a new job and get 4 hours of sleep after game night with their new schedule, and they keep playing.

[jolly agate]

Why is there so few wizard orcs?

[buoyant oar]

Because until very recently Orcs as a species had a stereotype. That was codified in game mechanics that led to a negative to intelligence

[crimson gulch]

i get a lot of them, Adrenaline rush is great on spellcasters

but in the early days they couldent even choose magic user

[north hawk]

Gandorc the Green. The Rage Wizard.

[buoyant oar]

The orc being a creature of rage is The stereotype

[clear goblet]

I think Orcs also probably just work better with other classes in terms of racial features and stats. Because of that creativity gets subconsciously limited

[buoyant oar]

Well, in their pre Monsters of the Multiverse versions they did just work better with non-spell casting classes

[clear goblet]

Yeah, like you'd assume Orcs just work better like that. That's another easy stereotype

[buoyant oar]

It does not behoove many to make a wizard with a species when it was first printed in 5th edition, got an automatic debuff to the main spell casting ability for Wizards

[north hawk]

And half-orcs in 2014 were very popular for melees. I'm not sure how that holds up now.

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[buoyant oar]

Early core 5th edition meaning 2014 to around 2018, was not built to break any molds or stereotypes. In fact, it was built for people who already knew the ins and outs of the game. That's why the core rule books suck at teaching

[rough basalt]

Lot of reasons.
Some people who are "too busy" actually aren't but rather don't actually wanna do anything other than Scroll short form videos or watch Netflix even if they say they wanna do other things.

[buoyant oar]

Some people who were too busy really do not understand the time commitment that D&D takes. Too busy. Might be a cover for just not feeling up to it. Or it might be somebody who used to be very very available. Suddenly not being so because they have a newborn or they have a kid who's doing soccer or whatever sport.

Both of my brothers used to play with me once a week, but now that they both have three kids who are school age with extracurriculars that one free night a week that they get, they just want to recuperate.

[rough basalt]

Imo if you're actually too busy for games, you probably won't sign up for games you know you can't show up for rather than sign up and for the first 4 sessions "oh god guys I'm just too busy"

But some people are just kinda inconsiderate.

[marble lion]

The one that annoys me is when people spend all day doing nothing but then at dnd time, they start doing productive stuff, making you seem bad for wanting them to drop their "serious" stuff for the game
Yes, you should have done that earlier

Oh also people who live with the dnd person not understanding that a 4 hour appointment is real, even if theyre in the same building

Go out to party for 6 hours? Noone needs you for anything
Play dnd scheduled for 4 hours, every single week at the same time, ppl dont respect youre busy

"Help with this right now, youre here after all"

[rough basalt]

I wasted a lot of time with a DM who just did not wanna run games.

"Guys I didn't prep this week, I've just been too busy"
30+ hours that week on Helldivers 2
repeat several weeks in a row

[marble lion]

Procrastinating is a serious thing

[rough basalt]

And it was a module as written too so its not like the prep was that much.

Not to mention he'd say this 5 minutes before session time each time.

[mighty wharf]

Bruh

I could get not having prep done in time as long as there was an effort to actually prep, but if that's the case you have to communicate that WAY in advance

[rough basalt]

Yeah he didn't put much effort into sessions either

He'd often end sessions like 2 hours early for players laughing too hard at a joke one made.

[marble lion]

Catastrophe

[mighty wharf]

That's... literally the fun part...

[clear goblet]

That's happened to me before. I've had one or two times where I've been stuck for prep time making a session and I told my players like a day before because I knew I wouldn't get it done. One of them worked on a one shot for them to do

[marble lion]

Its a fun part

[clear goblet]

That's so sad 😭

[marble lion]

I was that player before
Mogging the DM
"I couldnt prep the session in the 6 days"
"Ok ill make a oneshot within 2 hours for us"

[clear goblet]

It's always that one player 💀

[marble lion]

I have cancelled sessions as DM too though, but never out of prep time

Anxiety stress depression

[clear goblet]

For me prep time is usually also tied into creativity slump

[marble lion]

DMing is sometimes just not in it when life hits hard one day

[clear goblet]

That's so fair. Dming is stressful stuff, especially when life gets in the way

[marble lion]

When nothing bad happens, i can DM because i know the stress blinks away 5 minutes into session

[minor cargo]

I think this is a really interesting problem!

Is there a reason why they can't build a ship at the next shoreline? This seems like the easiest, but also requires a ton of time and coordination.

There's also this video, which although I didn't watch it all, seems to cover some relevant topics? Portage: How vikings dragged their ships overland. There's a timestamp on the description for portage examples.

Hopefully this is helpful!

[marble lion]

But on bad days, its just impossible

[rough basalt]

Yeah I did try to give him one last chance as a player

But even as a player he just had no interest in playing

[mighty wharf]

Rope trick+Plane Shift

You're technically in a different dimension with rope trick, meaning you can plane shift out back into the same dimension for a makeshift teleport

[cerulean monolith]

The issue is that it’s two ships, both of which are PCs bastions. It doesn’t make too much sense for them to rebuild.

[clear goblet]

I think at that point that was just a problem with him not being able to enjoy the game. I'm sorry y'all had to deal with that and that he couldn't realize that sooner for all of your sakes

[mighty wharf]

700miles might be a bit too specific though, unless it's a general destination Iike a Town

[cerulean monolith]

Conceivably they could just leave their boats behind and use TP circle to get back, but that feels bad

[rough basalt]

Yeah I found out recently from a friend I met in that game who let him into her game and apparently he played HD2 during sessions and I'm wondering if that was also the case with mine.

[marble lion]

My craziest dnd problem player was the one sleeping midsession and being extremely messed up from the previous night ever single week

[mighty wharf]

Spelljamming helm? Turn them into flying vessels?

[cerulean monolith]

That has lasting implications

[mighty wharf]

Just for flavor

[marble lion]

I could have handled it. I could have.

If he wasnt also the most argumentative player ive ever seen

Everything had to be questioned debated and downright insulted when not going his way

You cant be like that while literally sleeping through sessions

[minor cargo]

I have a DM friend who wanted to run like a small, maybe 10-12 session campaign. But after like the 6th or so, she had to cancel week over week, often with very little notice.

Because we were all friends, we checked in and it turns out there was a ton of personal challenges going on in her life and we swept in to pre-emptively put the campaign on hiatus. She was clearly already burned out and we were all pretty sure if we tried to adhere to her schedule, she was going to crash and burn really, really badly.

One of us then said, "Let me run a one-shot" and we started a short, like 5 session Daggerheart game.

I think the worst thing we could've done was get frustrated and annoyed with her. Instead, we focused on her wellbeing and a path forward we could all embrace.

[mighty wharf]

Idk I'd still turn them into airships somehow. It doesn't have to mechanically make the most sense.

[marble lion]

I should have turnt him into an airship. Good idea

[feral fulcrum]

I question why they need to transport the things overland such an extreme distance in the first place. It sounds like there was an astounding lack of foresight.

[clear goblet]

Absolute disaster. My worst problem player was a guy who'd turn everything into some crude inappropriate joke while also abusing like every 5e rule he could without consulting me or any previous DMs

[marble lion]

Shaking my head

[rough basalt]

We gave him a lot of chances but sometimes you gotta do what's right for you

[marble lion]

Its such a nice game

[mighty wharf]

Uh how is playing within the rules "abusing" the rules?

[marble lion]

I miss playing it these days

[clear goblet]

It's really nice that you guys were able to see past any problems and look out for her

[marble lion]

I assume it refers to making it feel like a video game and possibly being smug about it too

Using rules likely not written as intended, ruining rp for mechanics, meta decisions galore, stolen "broken builds" etc

[lucid agate]

hi guys if i were to make my players have to roll to wake up to being stolen from what would they have to roll

[feral fulcrum]

Perception check.

[mighty wharf]

I mean I'm playing a broken build that I stole.

[feral fulcrum]

At Disadvantage if they're sleeping.

[mighty wharf]

Guess I'm a problem player.

[lucid agate]

awesome fanks

[clear goblet]

Let me reiterate. Half of the time he'd follow the rules to the letter. The other half of the time he'd add something randomly to his character without saying anything until it was time to use it. Not to mention whatever he added would be stupidly broken for whatever circumstance he tried to use it in.

[limber trail]

I would also contest it by some stealth checks from the stealing enemies

[minor cargo]

Hmm. Some magic options off the top of my head, that although aren't RAW, maybe are fun enough to play with?

• Pocket dimension. Think "ship in a bottle". This can be fun because you introduce the risk of "breaking" the bottle, which of course would be a disaster.
• Some kind of reverse gravity over long periods of time? Reverse gravity also comes with risks, of course. Maybe this is the right level of silliness?
• Cut it up into small pieces and cast reduce on the pieces. This is kind of fun because you might have to cut it up a lot and then by the end, maybe one or two pieces go missing. What now?
• Awaken the ship. Make it walk itself.

Again, kind of an interesting challenge!

[mighty wharf]

Oh. That's kind of annoying... being a rules lawyer but then cheating your character sheet? That's super hypocritical.

[clear goblet]

We were running a homebrew elemental campaign once where I was a player, and he had a metal element. Our elements had set moves that the DM made, but he said if we wanted to suggest something we could, though most of us were happy. He made a move that let his shoot a crossbow with a tipped arrow of almost any of our elements, each having different side effects that not even our characters had, and never told the dm until he tried to use it

[marble lion]

In many games, yeah kinda
In your game it seems youre fine, play on

But i do wanna point out i listed more than 1 thing

[clear goblet]

Yeah, also broken builds are only annoying when they actually get used to their full potential as if the player is trying to one up everyone in sight. I've had another experience with that back when I was new to the game

[mighty wharf]

I mean tbf idk what "meta decisions" you're really referring to, like looking up monster sheets? I mean sometimes I'll ask the DM "hey can I make an investigation/history check to see if I know something specific about this guy" like a condition immunity or ability modifer that helps me as a player, but only if my character would reasonably know something in game.

[marble lion]

There is nuance to it

[mighty wharf]

We're not a super roleplay focused group.

[marble lion]

And again its only one of several listed things

[clear goblet]

In most cases that's perfectly reasonable
But then you should also be prepared for your DM to just say you wouldn't know anything, but I take it that you would already be

[mighty wharf]

Yeah

And I'll say something is RAW but I know the DM overrules RAW so if I do argue about something I quickly dismiss myself.

[marble lion]

The example i had in mind while typing it was killing a guy with strong sword because you, the player, think the sword will make your supercool main character even stronger

Ignoring storytelling completely

If its a character, and a party, that would do this, that wouldnt be an issue, though i dont like DMing for evil parties so far

[mighty wharf]

You know as you say that, there was something I had in mind I just realized that does kinda fit that description to a T... not something that would be evil but something that would be kind of metagamey?

Possessing a hyper specific enemy with Magic Jar...

[clear goblet]

Actually while we're on the topic of metagaming, what are your opinions on a player who isn't in the same place as another player in combat giving them suggestions about how to fight better if neither the fighting player or their character would think of the suggested strategy?

[cerulean monolith]

They’ve got boats in a large sea, but the next quest is going to take them to the far north. The easiest path is to get the boats across ~700 miles, then sail north along the actual ocean coast.

[marble lion]

I think its fine

Because sometimes people are gonna make a dumb mistake that affects the whole party so i dont mind them, as a team, helping each other

Ok wait i missed a detail

[minor cargo]

For my groups, as long as everyone is happy and good with it, it's totally fair game. Caveat is that the player in control gets final say, of course, and we don't push too hard. They're ultimately in the driver seat of their character.

[marble lion]

If its something the character wouldnt reasonably do, for example missing information, i dont allow it if crossing a line

Im fine with stuff like line of sight not quite matching etc, but if your char is completely unaware of something, that will have to be considered

[tidal briar]

Anyone have any good "gimmick fight" Ideas? In the feywild, fighting a group of humans who managed to take political control of a commune of unknowing fey.

[clear goblet]

Well the reason I'm unsure of whether to count it as meta or not is because it's not like they're feeding the character information they don't have, but more like if the player forgets that their character has a move for example or they plan to do something else, and a different player tells them to do what they forgot about. I think I end up finding it problematic because I like the idea of consequence, but I'm not sure if that's wrong on my part if I complain about it

[marble lion]

If its not information feeding, im usually okay with it

Its just teammates helping each other. I like that

Ofc there is a limit or it becomes annoying backseat gaming

[mighty wharf]

I think teammates helping each other should be encouraged

[sterile jolt]

Hey so I'm trying to get out of stagnant I know venting to strangers isn't likely ideal but I wanna try to get out of this rutt I'm in, I'm a bad player and my experiences has not been that good is there any games accepting players who wanna better themselves?

[marble lion]

Bad as in behaviour or skill

[clear goblet]

I see what you're both saying. Thanks for that, I'll keep that in mind

[sterile jolt]

skill

[marble lion]

Plenty of tables are fine with players who struggle with strategy

Just probably not the combat-only high difficulty ones

[sterile jolt]

yeah just being party compatible has been my issue and just bad decision making in campaigns

[minor cargo]

Yeah, let me give it a go!

• Your typical "alternative win conditions", like protect the VIP, king of the hill, control points, etc.
• "Change places!" During combat, players swap character sheets. Their minds get swapped and they have to try to roleplay as the characters in another character's body.
• "The upside down." After combat finishes, the world turns upside down. They then have to play as the monsters and you control the players. Decide what the "win" condition is based on vibes.
• Shadow/Light. Place light/shadow sources. Enemies can only be killed in shadow/light.
• Romeo & Juliet. Enemies all have to be defeated in the same round, otherwise they raise up next round at half health.

[marble lion]

Compatibility isnt required in most games tbh

Casual games can be beaten with 4 fighters

[cloud mulch]

Custom lineage is a 2014 feature that outlines race as a set of rules. But if I’m using it in 2024 rules I would first get rid of the asi because it’s moved to background in 2024 and would the feat also be an origin feat because variant human feat was changed to origin feat in 2024 human?

[marble lion]

There is no party comp requirement

[sterile jolt]

It is a make an break from the games I played I got booted from the table twice from different games cuz my characters personality and skill didn't meet with the identity of the group. I play a lore bard/blade singer multiclass he's been my main for awhile his name is Grimsworth Layton I play him as a professor from Water deep who plays detective on the weekends

[marble lion]

Sounds less like a skill thing and more like a social thing

[sterile jolt]

ic ic

[clear goblet]

I think in that case you might just want to try finding a more accepting group tbh

[marble lion]

Struggling with knowing your features and game mechanics might accelerate getting kicked tho

Gotta find ppl who vibe with your character and you, then being optimal class etc wont matter

[sterile jolt]

Yuh, and its been hard too because it feels like I'm rolling a slot machine.

[minor cargo]

This is how we play it, except I loosen the feat to any feat they qualify for (which is the original wording of custom lienage).

[marble lion]

Maybe try making a character with the players and dm
Bringing an OC can put people off before even seeing what its like

[cloud mulch]

Gng is booming blade busted or no?

At lvl 5

[tidal briar]

TY : )

[sterile jolt]

So I should try checking the background and my intent with the character with the players and dm and not just only the dm?

[mighty wharf]

Yeah for sure

That's always a good idea

[sterile jolt]

thank you! hopefully that will be better, and I should try to add my character summary in a looking for group bio

[woven flint]

Not the Bees!!!

[tidal briar]

Ideally the team should have a common interest or experience that ties you together and gives the group motivation. It also helps the DM come up with character ideas. Doing so requires some coordination.

(insert every dnd character being an orphan joke)

[jovial ocean]

tbf before the whole concept of d&d seemed confusing to me

like, a board game where players literally made everything up ?

but after doing some searching into it my brain just accepted it as if that was never confusing, and idk why

[mighty wharf]

I think it's more of a game than people think, just that the DM gets to adjust the rules on the fly.

[rough basalt]

I think it's cause it kinda touches into a childhood most of us have had.

Where I'm guessing at one point you wished there was some game that "let you do this" but you couldn't find one so you imagined it.

[jovial ocean]

actually i always wished that there was a game in which u could do literally anything, and somehow it ended up being this

[rough basalt]

True, I just meant you as like a general thing

A lot of people lose that sense of imagination as they get older but tabletop games kinda bring it back imo.

Cause sure each tabletop game has limits but the limits usually have quite a large room to work in compared to other games which let's you imagine a bit.

[jovial ocean]

funny thing is that i literally cant imagine how something looks in my head, not like a concept but like an image , if i think of an apple - i will understand what that is, how it should look like in my head, but no matter how hard i try - i will never see it's image, it will just stay a concept

[rough basalt]

Aphantasia? I think I'm misspelling it.

[jovial ocean]

yeah its that

cant think of how can people even see images in their head, it's just.. black space ?

[fleet topaz]

guys

my next D&D session involves a dragon

[jovial ocean]

kiss him, might work

romance with a dragon sounds like a good thing

[rough basalt]

Yeah I can't understand the inverse, but the fact we can both play a game that entices imagination is pretty awesome.

[fleet topaz]

i know what i have to do i just dont know if i have the strength to do it

[woven flint]

Kill the dragon, ez

[mighty wharf]

Are we killing the dragon, or making it our girlfriend?

[jovial ocean]

depends on the gm

[mighty wharf]

Instructions unclear

[woven flint]

I've stopped feeling empathy for dragons long ago
However, my Harengon Wizard has a dragon daughter due to drawing from the deck of many things and he loves her

[rough basalt]

Tokii when I throw a dragon at him next session

[jovial ocean]

i surely need dragon as a pet 🔥

[woven flint]

I as a person feel no empathy

Orizonras would feel kinship

[rough basalt]

Would Ori dap the Dragon up

[woven flint]

I wouldn't say pets, I think thats weird considering dragons are more intelligent than most people

[jovial ocean]

ooor maybe we could be the pet

[rough basalt]

Even the "dumbest" ones are as smart as average people.

[jovial ocean]

actually i wonder how does it feel for animals to be pets for people

is it the same as being a children or

[rough basalt]

Depends on the animal probably

I think some animals feel a lot of joy from being cared for by humans.

[jovial ocean]

pretty sure 90% of animals are like that, some just dont understand it

[mighty wharf]

Just remember: only 17% of dragons have charm immunity

[rough basalt]

You know the thing I like about Dragons?

There's only a couple immune to poison/poisoned

So in a campaign like Tyranny of Dragon's you can do the unthinkable.
Do poison damage.

[woven flint]

You know what I like about dragons?

They make nice jackets.

[rough basalt]

I haven't ran a dragon combat encounter yet

[coral wadi]

If you could pick any single rare magic item for a DnD 5e campaign, what would you pick?

[jovial ocean]

instructions unclear, this one had poison immunity

[normal canyon]

nah, they make good soup

[rough basalt]

All times I've had a Dragon appear it's mostly been either a social encounter or them watching a combat encounter

[normal canyon]

every time i've seen a dragon i've made it into a food.

[jovial ocean]

did it taste good

[clear goblet]

Neither have I. But purely for tradition, I added potential for a dragon encounter in my homebrew campaign that should technically have little to no dragons

[normal canyon]

is getting a permaneent +1 to a skill mod good? cause when i ate it i got that

[rough basalt]

Dragons can appear in my current campaign.
Party just hasn't rolled a combat encounter with one yet

[burnt valley]

Just curious, what are ways to knock off flyers RAW without homebrew mechanics?

[rough basalt]

They did have a how to train your dragon moment with one tho.
They put a boy and a gold wyrmling together after a disagreement.

[rough basalt]

Earthbind spell
Prone effects

[mighty wharf]

Anything that reduces their movespeed to 0: spells that restrain or knock prone etc.

[jovial ocean]

depends
but the taste is the main thing , eating dragon isn't a daily thing to do yk

[normal canyon]

apperantly it tasted like a griled seal with a hint of sweetness to it

mixed with egg drop soup

[jovial ocean]

when did u try griled seal again

[mighty wharf]

Why does that unironically sound delicious

I just get the vibe that seal would be good.

[jovial ocean]

poor seal

[normal canyon]

it tastes like a cross between wild duck and fish

[mighty wharf]

I don't know what duck tastes like

[normal canyon]

kinda like a cross between chicken and red meat

[mighty wharf]

Why do all these creatures I've never eaten before sound delicious?

[normal canyon]

also the dragon tail and egg soup tasted slightly gamey apperantly

[jovial ocean]

have yall ever made a character under 13 years old

[normal canyon]

my dm said so. a gamey, sweet, little bit of duck and seal taste

my dm is so nice. he let me make grilled goblin ears.

[jovial ocean]

is ur class chef by any chance

[normal canyon]

no.

i didn't even get to making that. i'm working on foodie class rn. i was playing a normal bard in the campaign i made that

[jovial ocean]

u gotta try

[normal canyon]

tthe power of culinary bard

[jovial ocean]

pretty sure that matches ur playing style

[normal canyon]

u do not know my play style buddy

[jovial ocean]

every 2nd message of urs is about culinary or food stuff, so i do somewhat know part of it

[normal canyon]

my play style is: a play style capable of getting myself kicked out of atleast 70% of the campaigns im in.

[wooden ginkgo]

I'm surprised no one has done cooking bard yet
Well.... does that mean you have to cook everytime you do something

[normal canyon]

yes

[jovial ocean]

actually i never tried fishing in d&d

[normal canyon]

i fished a goblin once...

[jovial ocean]

did you release him after

[normal canyon]

Nah, i'd die

[deft holly]

Hi, guys any tips on how to design a character? Especially their clothes

[normal canyon]

yes.

make sure you cover their private parts. it's super important.

[deft holly]

😭

Definitely will remember that

[jovial ocean]

to design a good looking character he needs to have 15 charisma first, everything after doesn't really matter

[normal canyon]

ir rlly depends on ur class, race, background, and campaign type

[open river]

Is there an art channel here? I’m an artist looking for commissions and was wondering if there’s somewhere here where I can show off my work

[jovial ocean]

#dnd-arts-and-crafts

[open river]

Ah ty

[deft holly]

Ohh okok

[normal canyon]

Thye will be too captivated by their charisma stat to look at other parts

like personality 🥲

100

[jolly agate]

How do u type Teethfling right?

Like that?. Teethfling

[jovial ocean]

tiefling?

[jolly agate]

Rising moon

[jovial ocean]

tbh the one u like more urself is almost always the best option

[jolly agate]

got confused but ye they look SO NEAT

[normal canyon]

I prefer using RIGGED dice

[jovial ocean]

d20 but every side is 20

[normal canyon]

d20 but all the sides are 2 🥲

[jovial ocean]

d20 but sides dont matter, because dm decides the number u get instead

[normal canyon]

digital dice are superior. They give you the opposite of what roll you want every single time.

especially the one from google

[jovial ocean]

so i always had that

[normal canyon]

not always tho

[jovial ocean]

if opposite of 20 is 1, then opposite of 10 is what

[normal canyon]

6 or 7?

[mighty wharf]

I know this is like 10x less cool but...

There are weighted dice people

[normal canyon]

every physical dice is weighted. by like 0.0000001 gram

[mighty wharf]

Every digital die isn't truly random

[normal canyon]

but you'll never know which side is weighted unless you roll 100000 and test it....

[normal canyon]

digital dice aint weighted tho

they're light as a pc

[jolly agate]

Ye but they are way less cooler and satisfactory

[feral fulcrum]

It's random enough that it doesn't matter.

[jolly agate]

plus u using a clanker instead of human labor

L

[normal canyon]

clicking a mouse is too much human labor 🗿

[woven flint]

We don't use that word around here >:[

[jolly agate]

:V

[woven flint]

Rustbucket is most suitable

[rough basalt]

I only use digital dice but I also only play online

[normal canyon]

Rotten tangerine is more suitable

[mighty wharf]

Gang how do we feel about incapacitating a basic red dragon for one turn with a feature spell and 1 reroll?

[rough basalt]

Dice are cheap

[mighty wharf]

57% chance of success

[normal canyon]

so expensive

[woven flint]

What is a "Basic Red Dragon" supposed to be?

[normal canyon]

it's fine.

[mighty wharf]

Adult red dragon

[rough basalt]

Fancy dice sure but you can get dice for like 10 bucks American

[woven flint]

It's probably gonna have legendary resistances

Burn through them if you can

[jolly agate]

u can fight a baby red dragon?

[rough basalt]

I feel bad for whatever currency you have to use

[woven flint]

Yes.
Wyrmlings are baby dragons

[jolly agate]

my DM is doin somethin wrong, i wanna fight a baby dragon as a Magic cow (or adopt it)

[rough basalt]

Still

[mighty wharf]

That was my plan for burning through them. I have something else for ending the fight entirely

Once I burn through the resistance.

[woven flint]

Sometimes things don't go to plan

[mighty wharf]

That's true.

[normal canyon]

i know a dice that costs $7,000

[woven flint]

It's safer to kill something outright than to try and only do things that burn through LR

[rough basalt]

Mine costed 7 bucks

[feral fulcrum]

One doesn't adopt a Dragon, they're A: Fiercely Indepent, B: Frequently more likely to kill you then not C: Not exactly the easiest things to take care of.

And D: Sapient Beings.

[mighty wharf]

Well the idea is that I'm putting the dragon on a timer.

[woven flint]

Not all dragons are fierce.
Looks at the Metallics

[jolly agate]

What the bloody hell is it made of. Matthew Mercer's toenails?

[rough basalt]

Ah yeah that's fancy dice

[jolly agate]

And what abt make it ma familiar?

[normal canyon]

diamond. the low quality diamonds.

[feral fulcrum]

Outside of Psuedodragons, which are like, the least of Dragons, not happening.

[rough basalt]

I just have some 7 dollar dice off Amazon

[past blaze]

A Dragon dragon? Not really on the table for familiars. You could get a Pseudodragon as a familiar, via Pact of the Chain for Warlock

[jolly agate]

Meh

[normal canyon]

30 charisma

[normal canyon]

a high quality diamond d20 could be like a hell lot more

[rough basalt]

I don't get the fancy dice thing

[mighty wharf]

They have 3 turns to basically kill us, or be killed. Either they risk getting incapacitated every turn and take massive damage from my party, burning their resistances to output damage, or they burn through their resistances and risk being incapacitated for an entire hour and being killed by my party.

[woven flint]

I'm about to BG:DIA here in a bit 🧐

[jolly agate]

still meh, diamonds are boring. I saw a Artificer themed dice, whit like. Clockwork gears that moved when you threw it

[woven flint]

Why didn't you say so?
You're making yourself look like a crap person without context, brother

[sleek cloud]

You should’ve lead with that up front

[mighty wharf]

The DM shouldn't kill you for stealing his fake girlfriend that's really stupid.

[woven flint]

... whuh

[sleek cloud]

Now it’s trolling I’m sure

[mighty wharf]

BRO

[woven flint]

Anyways, I'm going to session.
See you folks uh.. later >->

[jolly agate]

That makes more sense

[sleek cloud]

Good luck tokii

[sleek cloud]

I wish you a nat 20

[woven flint]

My Bugbear Ranger may or may not die

[jolly agate]

Your dnd char can be cool but im sure it's not warlock Magic cow whit a cool wizard hat cool

[sleek cloud]

Another one for the list

[woven flint]

Real

[limber trail]

I've quite literally never seen this happen

I forgot that this channel is like this

no

that's not how nat 20s work

[burnt valley]

No, on attack rolls you just auto hit

[limber trail]

when making ability checks, a 20 or a 1 have no real bearing on the outcome. They're just a roll you can get. Nothing special happens on them (or rather, nothing special has to happen on them)

[jolly agate]

I'm starting to feel insecure, all my friends' characters have incredibly long and deep lore, and my character is just..
Magic cow

Maybe I should change it or smth?

[limber trail]

Play what you enjoy. Not every character needs equal amounts of lore.

[mighty wharf]

Naaaaaaah, your character shouldn't be like the others.

Having different characters is what makes interesting parties. Although, maybe your magic cow could be incredibly down to earth, real, and focused on the future, to contrast the other characters in your party. Play to the cows simplicity you know?

[jolly agate]

Hell naw spider boy, ye im out

[idle oar]

Okay folks let's get back to D&D

[jolly agate]

bye yall, not gettin into dis

[mighty wharf]

Good call Moderator

[idle oar]

Use the Looking For Game channels to find a game please

It's off-topic to solicit or oganize games outside of thsoe channels here

Did you read #find-a-game carefully?

We are moving away from ages appropriate to date other ages

It's not on topic

[mighty wharf]

I just asked my DM for a ring of spell storing

[cosmic roost]

https://media-waterdeep.cursecdn.com/attachments/0/828/c2-16.png

[mighty wharf]

Hopefully he doesn't give me a cursed one.

Maybe I could dispel the curse without dispelling the rest of it?

[idle oar]

Possibly - or maybe it's another plot hook...

[mighty wharf]

Would that be a cleric or paladin thing...

[hoary totem]

Why the sudden modrons

[jolly agate]

let's talk abt cows, cows are cool

[idle oar]

When the modrons march, it's time for a new topic

[limber trail]

yall got something cool coming up in your games this week?

[mighty wharf]

We just leveled up twice

[limber trail]

oh no

[mighty wharf]

I got access to the magic stone tiny servant combo

[idle oar]

... that could be foreshadowing something

[limber trail]

You're in danger

be brave

[mighty wharf]

The only thing that scares me is condition immunities

[jolly agate]

My DM gonna kill someone, but she could do something like
"Alr guys, Jerry the little snail that followed yall, whom I never mentioned just died"

[limber trail]

What's that combo?

[jolly agate]

(cuz she does that, a lot)

[hoary totem]

I like the detail of the modrons being different classes

[mighty wharf]

Basically you give the tiny servants a general command to throw magic stones you drop at enemies, then drop magic stones in front of them with your BA. Does 1d4+int per stone that hits.

[limber trail]

neat

[mighty wharf]

Using only your bonus action. Then because theyre tiny you can tell them to hide in your armor n stuff after throwing as part of the command to protect them, although the DM might not allow that without using your action since that's like two commands in one

[limber trail]

Tiny Servants can take a simple, general command. I agree that it's up to DM ruling

[mighty wharf]

I have another combo as a contingency plan. That's kind of how I'm playing this character: the anchor of the party that changes the tides when things go south.

[mighty wharf]

I know the throwing stones generally works since one of the examples is a task that can last multiple turns, the ducking into your armor is pushing it though. My DM is pretty chill so I think he'll allow it: he knows the combo and really wants to see me stone some dudes

[harsh hollow]

Magic Stone is a fun one, my current Druid is in more of a modern setting and is business-themed so her magic stones are golf balls. (And her Staff of the Woodlands is a wood-panelled golf club.)

[mighty wharf]

He loves magic used in creative ways just like me. It works perfectly, becuase this character is all about creative magic use. Weird magic and funny combos.

[limber trail]

Ducking into the armour is a bit much for my tastes yeah

but it's whatever your DM is down for

[mighty wharf]

I think I could do it RAW by readying my action to issue a second command

[normal canyon]

hmmmm

[fleet topaz]

well my DM is my geometry teacher, but at the same time she's also a D&D kid and lived through the same upbringing

[mighty wharf]

Tiny creatures can occupy the same space as creatures 2 sizes larger. Plus, I want to make a transformers reference to Soundwave, given my character is essentially a robot.

[fleet topaz]

and shes pretty leniant on what we can do

[mighty wharf]

I think he'd prefer the tiny servants ducking into my armor over Animate Dead shenanigans.

[limber trail]

RAW you can't ready a bonus action, which is what it is to command a tiny servant. They also can occupy the same space, that'd be more like them standing under you than inside your armour itself

[mighty wharf]

Oh. I thought it was an action.

It's not something I'm too attached to. Just having some little dudes is good enough for me.

[limber trail]

You can 100% make a lil guy and have him throw stones though

[mighty wharf]

Rest casting is also on the table but I think only because I have sentry's rest as a race trait. Technically, RAW I have to be "inert" for the rest, so technically you could argue that prevents me from rest casting but we don't talk about that.

[eager marsh]

We do talk about that because that's ignoring the requirement of sentry's rest

[mighty wharf]

If I had to sit there conscious for 6 hours and I couldn't even cast a spell that only requires verbal and somatic components, I'd crash out.

[eager marsh]

Somatic Components are rather contrary to the definition of 'inert'

[mighty wharf]

They are...

[eager marsh]

'Rest Casting' only works during the 2 hours of a long rest that permits 'light activity' the part where a normal character can be doing watch

[mighty wharf]

That would be my second argument.

[eager marsh]

Those 2 hours are always permitted for casting a few spells. Alarm, mage armor, etc are common choices

[mighty wharf]

I could make the last 2 hours of my rest the time I cast the spells to extend into the next day.

[eager marsh]

the last 2 hours of your rest wouldnt be casting spells into the next day that's casting spells into teh same day at that point

[mighty wharf]

Tiny servent and gift of alacrity so I can prepare 2 different spells the next day and use my unused slots from the previous day!

[mighty wharf]

The duration lasts until the next day not the casting time.

[eager marsh]

I meant that the last 2 hours of a long rest are just earlyu morning for that next day

[mighty wharf]

The problem is then I wouldn't have them prepared for my next rest casting though so I'm fighting a losing battle 💀

[eager marsh]

also changing your prepared spells means alacrity wont be available to do this again for day 2. Edit: yea that

[mighty wharf]

Yeaaaah

[eager marsh]

you can save the slots by technicality but thats it

[mighty wharf]

A ring of spell storing or spell scrolls could potentially fix the issue though

Ring of spell storing might make the whole maneuver pointless though: I'm already saving spell slots doing that.

We love saving spell slots 🗿

[cursive ledge]

can 2024 trickery cleric do any cool stuff with their illusion that doesn’t involve spirit guardians or melee attacking?

[tidal bough]

Casting spells from outside of silence with the illusion

Spells that require verbal components*

[cursive ledge]

I did forget about this aspect, so I’ll def keep that in mind. are there any less niche uses tho?

[hoary totem]

Life clerics are NOT healbots, their healing is so good they can use their resources on other stuff (like spirit guardians)

[tidal bough]

I mean i suppose proc'ing aoo is possible

[cursive ledge]

it’s mostly just that spirit guardians and melee clerics have rlly obvious synergy with duplicity, but I can’t think of any non-situational benefits for a ranged cleric

[hoary totem]

Also Peace Cleric should have still been called Unity Cleric, letting your allies kill stuff better doesn't mean you're still a pacifist

[cursive ledge]

how does this relate to duplicity?

[hoary totem]

I just like clerics

[cursive ledge]

fair enough, same

[misty sorrel]

Hello everyone

[hoary totem]

why wouldn't anyone

[tidal bough]

Could run some sort of life steal build with melee spells

[misty sorrel]

I'm very new to dnd and um well anyone wanna do a dnd game?

Like is there another server. Anything like that?

[cursive ledge]

do clerics get strong life steal spells that involve an attack roll?

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

• Instructions for finding a game here on the server (including how to post in our #looking-for channels).
• Suggestions for finding a game outside of this server.
• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[tidal bough]

Not entirely sure but there are some that might

[misty sorrel]

That'll be great. I just get really nervous

Plus the last server I went to always wanted voice and video

I tend to do texts

[tidal bough]

Feel free to check out #looking-for-community theres lots of text-based community games/one shots/westmarches

[cursive ledge]

my main issue is just that I wanna find a spell or two that’s enhanced by duplicity other than spirit guardians, cause if I don’t I’m 100% getting targeted by my DM

[tidal bough]

Itd likely have to be some other form of ao aura spell for the same level of power as that is a strong spell for being able to move without being in the space

[cursive ledge]

I mean that’s one way to use it

there’s gotta be other silly stuff you could do with it tho, right?

[somber mesa]

Kinda amusing that Forge of the Artificer has more airship combat stuff than Spelljammer did

[tidal bough]

Could run some sort of cheese grater with the spikey plant spell and thunderwave

[cursive ledge]

I mean now we’re just doing worse spirit guardians

you’re not wrong though

ig I’ll just need to be creative with it

[mighty wharf]

Is there a way to stop a creature from shapechanging? If a creature shapechanges do they get the statistics and abilities of the new creature?

If I trapped Bahamut in a microwave and he shapechanged into an elemental would he be immune to the exhaustion

Yes I'm still theorizing how I'd kill the aspect

[tidal bough]

Moonbeam

[cursive ledge]

do you know how they’re shape changing?

[tidal bough]

"if the creature is shape-shifted (as a result of the Polymorph spell, for example), it reverts to its true form and can’t shape-shift until it leaves the Cylinder."

[signal imp]

I been listening to critical role podcasts i am done campaign 1 half way thru campaign 2

[cursive ledge]

but like, depending on how they’re shapeshifting, couldn’t stuff like counterspell, silence, dispel magic, etc. prevent/negate the shapeshift too?

[tidal bough]

Once yes, but moonbeam is constant and persists throughout the conc whilst doing significant damage

Counterspell is for spells and wouldn't work for wildshape etc., silence doesnt work for nonverbal shapechanges, dispel magic might work as a one time effect but doesnt persist over multiple rounds

[cursive ledge]

true, moonbeam + any anti movement tech would work rlly well

[tidal bough]

Moonbeam is a guaranteed effect that covers all forms of shapechanging

Well... not guaranteed

It still needs to make a con save and on a fail it happens

[stoic haven]

if its from a spell, dispel magic would fully dispel it, meaning it needs to be recasted

[floral turtle]

hi

[fossil hollow]

Killed another player

[hidden spindle]

Character right?

[fossil hollow]

:)

[hidden spindle]

-# ...right?

[fossil hollow]

... yesh, it was their character

dwarf sorceror

[limber trail]

good

[hidden spindle]

Awww. They're usually healthy. I like mines a Farmer and Draconic

[fossil hollow]

It was horizon again

[limber trail]

horizon as a sorcerer again no less

[fossil hollow]

indeed. 10 AC dummy

[limber trail]

why does he do this

take shield or something

[fickle heart]

Double tapped.

[noble drift]

I’m starting a campaign here soon with a few friends and I’m playing ork anybody have any good ideas for a last name?

[full wadi]

go back to the old ways: what's their family's profession?

[noble drift]

They are a playwright

[hidden spindle]

Last name: Stone

[full wadi]

Surnames: Stagehand, Propshift, Ropetug

[sleek cloud]

Talebearer

[fleet topaz]

hey guys

[steady gust]

do people have free will or are they reacting in a predetermined way to stimuli? Are you choosing a choice or is the choice choosing you? Did you have the choice to choose differently?

[fleet topaz]

i need some help with calculations

[limber trail]

What kind of calculations?

[fleet topaz]

profeciency, initiative, passive perception

should i send my stats or

[jovial ocean]

what was the weidest thing that happened in yall's dnd

[limber trail]

yeah sure

do you need an explanation of how they work or just help with the maths?

[fleet topaz]

i (drunkenly) flirted with someone who wanted us to assassinate a politicial (i rolled a and with my level that was a 23)

[jovial shadow]

Monks become tanks later. Not just in avoiding damage but employ damage like one

[fleet topaz]

STR: 18(+4), DEX: 14(+2), CON: 14(+2) INT:18(+4), WIS:10(0), CHA: 13(+1), just need help w/ the math

[limber trail]

What level are you?

[fleet topaz]

4

[limber trail]

(Also, for initiative, do you have the alert feat? I assume not, but worth checking)

[fleet topaz]

i have no feats but based on my race (namekian) i probably should

i'll ask my DM about it tomorrow

[limber trail]

Ok awesome. So at level 4, your proficiency bonus is a +2. When you make a skill check, you add your proficiency bonus to that skill if you're proficient with it. So, if you had proficiency with Athletics, you'd add your Str and your PB - which would work out to a +6 in total (+4 from strength, +2 from proficiency)

Your initiative and passive perception are pretty easy once you've got that figured out. Your Initiative bonus for most characters is just your dex modifier. So for you that'd be a +2

Passive Perception is even easier. It's 10 + your perception bonus. For you that'd probably just be 10, if you were proficient with perception it'd be a 12

There are other ways to raise passive perception but they're not super common, for most characters it's just that

[tender karma]

Anyone else haveing problems with looking things up on the dnd beyond app??

[fleet topaz]

based on my non-transformed state i am proficient in perception but its only +1, so 11 or 12

[limber trail]

What do you mean by that?

[fleet topaz]

its D&D beyond it tends to take forever

[limber trail]

Oh I see actually - you're playing a bard right?

[fleet topaz]

this whole thing is for my transformed state

im actually a bard, but for the transformed state i needed strength and inteligence but less charisma

[limber trail]

What's this transformed state you're talking about?

[fleet topaz]

let me see if i mentioned it in #character-discussion, if not i'll explain it via DM

did not mention how it works let me DM you

[limber trail]

I'd prefer to stick here if that's alright

[fleet topaz]

alright, i just didnt want to get warned for like a wall of text

[limber trail]

People post walls of text all the time

[fleet topaz]

oh okay

[limber trail]

can jump over to character discussion if youd rather

[fleet topaz]

sure

[idle flame]

eello

[normal canyon]

how do i tpk the party

[idle flame]

wat is tpk

[normal canyon]

i forgor

[humble cairn]

Great talk!

[normal canyon]

neeeeeeee

[idle flame]

T^T

[tender karma]

Its saying it can’t load data for basic things

[fleet topaz]

seems about right for D&D beyond

[barren panther]

you're generally trying to avoid a TPK

[normal canyon]

as a pc

[barren panther]

don't?

you're supposed to be working with your party

[normal canyon]

i wanna know how though

[barren panther]

be an antisocial player and have a DM that's not experienced so they go along with whatever antics you're trying to pull

[spring light]

if you're the dm just say "everyone dies" and smile as you win d&d

[normal canyon]

how do i do with a very experienced dm

and give me step by step

[spring light]

step 1: tell them "Look at me. I'm the dm now."
step 2: look at the party and say "everyone dies"

[normal canyon]

that won't work with a experinced dm

[hidden spindle]

You could Fireball the room

[normal canyon]

wow so smart. thx.

[spring light]

sure it will, it's just the same kind of trolling you're already doing.

[normal canyon]

i don't do trolling. i'm always serious

[spring light]

of course you are.

[normal canyon]

yeah

[spring light]

as an experienced dm if one of my players stood up and asserted that they were now dm i'd say "go ahead"

[hidden spindle]

-# "Yes! Finally~"

[normal canyon]

oh right. i forgot.

[sonic aspen]

What class are yoy for this tpk

[normal canyon]

currently i'm a level 1 bard, level 1 barbarian, level 1 monk, level 1 sorcerer, level 1 wizard, and level 1 fighter

[barren panther]

An experienced DM would not want you to tpk your own party for the hell of it

[sonic aspen]

Wtf

[normal canyon]

what?

it's called multiclassing buddy

[sonic aspen]

What stats do you have

[spring light]

obviously 100s in everything

[sonic aspen]

Dump con ???

[normal canyon]

yeah kinda

[sonic aspen]

Lolol

[barren panther]

The homer car of multiclasses

[normal canyon]

i got like a 17, 6, 15, 13, 13 (+2 from background), 13 (+1 from background)

[sonic aspen]

Life ia rough for bud

No multiattack, no spell above first known

[normal canyon]

lol

[sonic aspen]

More than 10 profs ig

[glass granite]

6 dex?

[barren panther]

Dang 6 dex? Rest in pepperonis

[normal canyon]

not in order

6 is con and like 17 is in intelligence i think

[fossil hollow]

How the hell are you a bard with 6 DEX?

[normal canyon]

i didn't put the numbers in order

[barren panther]

Gr8 b8 m8

[sonic aspen]

WTF 6 CON ???

[normal canyon]

yeah

[spring light]

i can't take this guy seriously

[sonic aspen]

Rolled terribly too

[normal canyon]

in order it's:
13 str
15 dex
6 con
17 int
13 wis
13 cha

[sonic aspen]

Based for not dumping str

[normal canyon]

cause im so smort

[normal canyon]

i cant be barbarain then

[sonic aspen]

So how much hp do you have

[barren panther]

Midmaxing

[spring light]

-# you can tpk the party by being a drag on their resources and letting encounters become unbalanced because you can't contribute

[normal canyon]

i got about 19 hp

[sonic aspen]

Mtfk just get artificer battlesmith to attack with int

[sonic aspen]

AT LVL 6???

[normal canyon]

i rolled kinda bad sometimes

[sonic aspen]

going to be ded by lvl 11

[barren panther]

A stiff breeze will kill your pc

[normal canyon]

i'm the master of all elements buddy. im the green ninja

[spring light]

jack of some trades, master of none

[sonic aspen]

You are very funny man

[normal canyon]

once i get all the classes to level 1, idk what im gonna do after that

maybe i'll ask to add a couple homebrew classes

[barren panther]

I think you have trying-to-do-too-much-itis