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Training to use armor is, in actuality not that complicated or as time consuming as studying the arcane for years. It’s one of many disconnects with real life. Like javelins only going out to 60 ft when those things are accurately thrown hundreds of feet irl
javs go to 120 for their long range
50 ft of hemp rope also isn’t 10 lbs
I've not played 5e druid, just 3.5e, which does give restrictions for armor materials but makes more sense than flat out no armor and no explanation, though you've mentioned why it seems that way which makes a bit of sense
At disadvantage yea. Still cringe
This is all Big Bow oppressing thrown weapons
Anyways thrown weapons deserve better
I believe the newest ruleset doesn’t have material restrictions iirc
I can't beleive we only have one Subclass that intentionally supports it.
Doesn’t even improve their non disadvantage range either
I think it's less about just what we'd view as basic "training" and moreso about being able to move more naturally. A lot of the actually compelling reasons have been lost in D&D over time, though.
Heya everyone! Just joined this place. What yall talking about??
I'm not too sure, I've not looked at rules for 5e druids as I have not played one. I like the structure of 3.5e druids a tad more {I just like having a silly animal companion that isn't a summon} so I've not yet checked out 5e druid
Moving naturally in fitted plate armor is still less of a ‘spend years training for it’ thing than the rules want us to believe. There’s many things that are harder/easier to do IRL than the rules think
Armor training
And thrown weapons
And that Thrown Weapons are an afterthought
I like that you can smite with thrown weapons in 2024
Oh, definitely. I'll also say I'm not actually referring to 5e at all here, and instead referring to older editions.
If only you could accurately throw a trident more than 20 ft to smite drop flying targets
And Unarmed Strikes!
Wasn’t that the case in 2014? (Unarmed strikes)
5E really doesn't engage with alot of it's systems, Diseases got ignored almost entirely, Thrown weapons get basically no support in 10 years, and I still can't beleive Monks still only have like two magic items to buff their Unarmed strikes.
For gameplay purposes, 5e has removed a lot of fiddly context that used to make the game more simulationist.
Very definitely no. Restricted to Melee Weapons. Unarmed Strikes are not Melee weapons, therefore no smite.
they basically got rolled into the poisoned condition for the 2024 revision
Unarmed was basically a COMPLETELY ignored side-thing only Monks rembered existed.
Isn’t the “melee weapon” text 2024? I’m likely misremembering
My current 3.5e character can't exist in 5e without extra steps because her species/race doesn't exist in 5e lol
Ah no it’s “melee weapon attack”
Got me second guess. It was because it added it to the "weapon's' damage" and not just melee weapon attack
One of the things I'm planning on reintroducing to my rework of 5e is the fact that somatic components aren't just your hands but your whole body.
Much more evocative and makes more sense.
We have 4 officially. 3 if we exclude legendary. And technically potion of pugilism is new for them
Twinkle toes would be awesome
i mean it did take 9 years until there was just an equivalent for a +X weapon for unarmed
What race?
Unsurprisingly, the reason that armor restricted somatic components was for the reason that somatic was your entire body.
2024 monk vs 2014 is such a coughing baby hydrogen bomb comparison
That'd be sooo fiddly for mounted casters 
- half movement to dismount
- cast spell
- half movement to remount
Shes a Raptoran, I do believe someone has homebrewed the race to work for 5e but I don't think it's in any of the official books {I could be wrong}
Never heard of that one.
Wait until you hear that it will take some movement to cast 
Oh, those are just Aarokocra
Tell me conditions could actually restrict Somatic components
they dont, except for the one that stops speaking
Theoretically, combining armor training with somatic components was multiplicatively more difficult because you had to train to learn learn extremely precise movements without armor and then you had to train to move naturally with armor, and then you had to train to make said movements with that armor.
My Grappler Monk about to laugh at every caster ever now
Pretty sure those just became the Aarakocra in 5E.
yeah, these just look like Aaracokra
That's such a weird choice. Aarakocra are way more bird like in art than the Raptoran, but it's likely what occurred
I already made Tasha press her ‘oh shit’ button when she fought the party for a combat test last week. If grappling blocked casting he’d be unstoppable
Eh, it happens over multiple edition changes. Some things always get weirdly different then their intial concept.
Honestly, I think the armor-casting dilemma is also easily understood when we consider why a Monk can't wear armor.
Barrier Tatto demand skyrocketing 
Ah alright! I'm in the middle of my first ever (physical) campaign, but its scheduled very inconsistent since we are all still in school and have jobs, so i'm still trying hard to learn
And use my precious attunement?? Insanity
Should probably add the ability to cast from the mount to Mounted Combatant or something then 
Gonna have to MC a unarmored defence class or take MI or similar for mage armor then 
I agree with that. In my 3.5e campaign we came across Eladrin and that's when I learned they are fairly different in 5e. My 5e character I'm getting ready to play is an eladrin and it's not extremely different than 3.5e but still different
Ghengis Khan’s mounted archers casters dominating the map
If a caster has to reasonably move their entire body or take a stance, it doesn't make a ton of sense that they'd be able to cast those types of spells while mounted, no?
What’s the best (easiest) class for a newbie?
As a wizard main I don’t gatta MC at all lol
Fighter
Straight fighter?
Or gay. We don’t judge
Yup. Multiclassing should only be done when you're at least semi-experienced with the game.
Lmfao ooo ok
If people can find a way to do archery from horeseback, they can find a way to cast 
Champion Fighter is the simplest and most stable way to play
Tbf, archery is almost purely upper body, whereas any sort of spell that requires your legs in a specific stance wouldn't really be possible.
At the same time, I think that this type of dilemma is what often brings interesting gameplay.
Chariots then
Casters use chariots
As someone who is multiclassing wizard for their first time playing yeah don't do what I did you will give yourself a headache
Just stand on the back of a horse and balance really well. (And then fall on your face at speed so we can laugh.)
Ghengis Khan’s mounted archers quite literally did dominate military might back in the day. Also I think mandating leg movements as a caster contradicts the many magic throne type users or just the fact many old man mages won’t be able to move like that
My first character I played was a druid and I forgot about wild shape the whole time
{I haven't made the same mistake since}
Turn into a cat for free room and board
It's not so elegant that it's a true dance, but that type of thing is what makes magic actually "interesting" in a world, I'd say.
That's an amazing idea
Mine uses it rarely, wildshape charges are generally used for Wild Companion or her Sublcass
Put another way, I think the common/repeated isekai trope of "oh THIS main character doesn't need to speak/move to cast spells" kinda shifts the common baseline expectation of fantasy, while simultaneously making magic casting less flashy.
That's fair. My 3.5e druid had mostly used her wild shape for random things outside of combat like talking to fish to direct us to where we needed to go lol
3.5 animal companions being actually viable combat threats was a nice time
High enough level and you could swap to dinosaurs
I think it's significantly easier for people to not feel as stoked about powerful magic if there's no "theatrics" about it.
We get a spell for that in 5e 
Wildshape is more for utility/travel/scouting/exploration and if you're a Moon druid, Combat
Implement Circle Casting c:
plenty of 'theatrics' and 'powerful magic' to be had there 
My party used circle casting the other week to extend my Alter Self spell so my mind flayer could get a long lasting facelift while we’re in the Druegar city. It was fun
But then you think of media like Avatar: The Last Airbender and how absolutely central to bending the movement of the body was and I would say that the show would objectively be a worse piece of media if they removed those types of movements.
King Bumi and his chin lift laughing like a maniac
I was out of the speak with animals spell so I wild shaped. Got a crab from that, it was the first pet the my druid had followed by a handful of others
We created a spell in one of my campaigns named after my Wizard
We call it
"Malakeths Marvelous Mastery"
Not gonna say what it does here because I know a few of my party members are in the server, but it's an 8th (or possibly 9th) level spell
Something Something, mastery over one's spellbook
Yeah, Bumi is such a monster that he was able to make his chi flow just via his chin.
Genuinely insane old man. Love that trope
It's a strong word, but I think fantasy is objectively made better by the existence of lines (that are inherently arbitrary) that separate things.
When fantastical elements are involved, "rules" generally have to be made regardless so it's actually understandable how stuff works, and those rules are what make a fantasy compelling.
Thinking about Duskblade again reminded me about my annoyance over green flame blade and how there should be a melee cantrip of every element still. Might try drafts for that after I get home
Ok so I’m making a character on Roll20 so far in a fighter half orc +1 strength, +3 dext, +2 constitution, -1 intelligence, +0 wisdom, an +2 charisma. Good? Or am I making it wrong?
The modifiers doesn’t tell us the actual scores but it looks like you’re making a dex fighter
Ooo I thought they all started at the same lol my bad
They don’t
Most tables typically use 27 point buy for stats so I’d suggest using that for your creation
Yea I want my main weapon to be sickle. Bro I’ve never made one b4 lol
So strength 13, Dext 16, constitution 14, 8 intelligence, 10 wisdom, 14 charisma.
Where are you getting these numbers from?
Roll20.net. That’s wat it says. Under ability score. Should I make it somewhere else? Or how do u make a new character?
Maybe someone here can answer this question for me - In the 2024 dnd beyond character creator the wizard does not have a spellbook inventory item but every wizard does start with a spellbook. If the spellbook is something that you can "lose" and need to replace, should you be creating an inventory item for it? I see that the starting kit has a "book" but that is the generic book and there's no mention of that needing to be converted into the spellbook. What is the approved way to handle the starting spellbook for a wizard?
No not what I meant. Are you using the standard array base scores of 15,14,13,1210,8?
Oo yea, those.
Ok. Then you apply your +2/+1 for species or background. Are you using the older rules or the updated 2024 rules? Your background will determine where your bonuses can go
2024 rules
The standard spellbook on ddb isn't an inventory item.
Its not a piece of adventuring gear in 2024, so there's no relevant item description. Your character does start with one though.
Then your background/origin determines where your extra points can go
Background is solider so I put the +2 strength an dext an the +1 in constitution
It is an inventory item if you just take the legacy version of it, and I’d probably say no harm no foul for doing so
Ok
+2 in strength and dexterity? You can only distribute 3 points total
It let me pick 2. Nope both r +1 sorry
Ah you went with +1/+1/+1 then
Then you’re prolly doing things fine. Usually it’s helpful to be mindful where you put bonuses for an effective build and what you intend to do
Right but the PHB says you can lose your spellbook so if it's not an inventory item how would you lose it
It's like underwear
Ok thanks for the help man
Okay that.... that probably explains it really well actually.
There's no underwear adventure item, but you presumably have them and could lose them.
But if a player wanted to make a backup spellbook, they would presumably need to add that to their inventory?
Yeah as a custom item.
Tho there's a few magic item spellbooks you can give later.
Notably the Arcane Grimoire from Tashas.
Goes up to +3 and helps arcane recovery iirc.
Thanks!
There's a couple special ones that have neat effects and inherent spells too.
Fulimating Treatise IIRC is one of them
Personally I am an appreciator of the Alchemical Compendium.
Grimoire Infinitus from Wildemount is probably one of my favorite CR items
I like the idea of evolving magic items.
Kind of a shame that the idea only came up pretty late in 5E's lifecycle, and they haven't really done much with it.
Just a handful of items from Fizbans as far as I know.
the hoard items. which require killing higher age category dragons. which is already a rarity in games
Y'all it is possible to add my own spells as a DM right?
make up new spells? sure
Yeah its your world and story go balistic
Like we played today and I was a DM and it was pretty fun but like idk how the Dice works so I'm a bit confused
Like I used 20 dice to like to see who has a advantage and after that I used the d8 for like the attack
But I'm kinda confused yk
I use a d20 to see if they gonna succeed with theyre spell or ability
Like we do It like that they encounter a goblin so they roll a d20 and I roll a d20 for the goblin the one that gets the higher number does the attack
Or the act or sum
So rolling to see if the attack lands?
Some spells make you roll to hit, and same make the enemy roll to save themselves
Rolling to see who gets the attack
I thought you just try to roll higher than the targets ac
I know its just the way he describes it
If you’re struggling i recommend reading the rules
Can you explain 🥲
#dnd-newcomers may be more appropriate
I read them but they kinda to hard to understand
Ima try
Might be best to wait a bit before homebrewing your own spells, until you're more confident in how the game works. Easier to change a rule when you understand it
Agreed
Yep.
If you wanna get into making your own content, I suggest looking through official content and finding a spell that loosely fits what you want and reskin it to fit your needs.
Reskinning is an easy way to start homebrewing once you learn the system better.
Well I made a spell that boosts your morale and your stats for a limited time
Now Idk if there's an actual spell in the official game
Wait you throw 2 d20 as a player?
Btw H2r I put some explanation in #dnd-newcomers
Alr ima check them ty
If you're getting into DnD I advise against creating homebrew. Jumping into homebrew as a new player is kind of a death sentence.
Hi, is there a place to get all the minis i need for tyranny of dragons?
For scaling magic items, I give make anything will multiple rarities grow with player choices.
Eg, an enspelled sword with hellish rebuke.
Grows in level and may change damage type
It's in the 2014 PHB and it's detailed in the spellcasting portion of the 2024 wizard; it weights 3 lbs
agh
Bro I have never played this game before but why is it so difficult to even make a character cuh
I wouldn't say it's all that hard.
I cant figure out how to follow the instructions I was given
Have you checked out the Basic Rules?
You dont get magic items unless your DM says you do. But each class and background have a listed starting equipment
Yup, you just start with the Gold and Items your Class and Background have. Anything else is entirely DM Dependent.
Idk I was told to get magic items but idk how to get magic items : "You get 1 rare magic items and 1 uncommon 3 common. and for consumables potions you get 1 rare, 3 uncommon, 3common. Don't worry to much about making sure you choose somthi g for each.You get 800 gold which can be spent on basically anything. Which isn't magic items."
You look at the Magic Items available to you from any books you have, since I don't think the Free Rules have any listed, but I haven't needed to look at them much
Your DM is apperently starting you quite loaded.
Well Its a one off campaign and Im the only one in the group who hasnt played before. Also on the website where do I see my books?
"If your character is a Human Fighter you're basic"
Proceeds to create a Chaotic Neutral Tiefling Rogue
thats actually basic
Daring today, are we?
Which one?
Humans in dnd are basic in general, you play fantasy role playing just to pick what you already are, what’s the point
But no one picks Human
I do (a lot)
I presume they're pointing out the irony that there are other basic characters that others usually don't rag on
Also, I pick human pretty often. Variant in 2024
Variant human don’t exist
On 2024
I play Human
I mistyped
Yes
Meant to say 2014. Fat thumbed the 2
Yeah cause Variant Human is just regular human cause regular human sucked.
Was it that bad?
All it does, if memory serves, is a +1 in everything
rarely terrible
Hello I'm new to this discord
I imagine it was underwhelming compared to Vuman
Hi new to this discord, I’m Nugget
What’s a vuman
Yep. Just a +1 in everything
So what y'all talking about
No proficiencies, no abilities, just a +1 in all 6 stats
Variant Human
Why play a human though
Safe to say very easily outclassed by vuman
It’s fantasy, then you pick the only thing that’s not fantasy
Cuz it’s much easier for some people to feel immersed in their imagination if they can visualise themselves, and it being human helps with that
Staaaaaaats 🤤
Plus mechanics
So I'm basically new to dnd and I made a sorcerer plasmoid character is that like something good or bad
Nothing inherently good or bad about it
Mechanics are mostly for vuman. But that doesn't stop others from still going human
Human in 2024 is pretty neat mechanically
if you like it and the DM you end up getting likes it.. that's all good
What would y'all suggest for my first ever campaign
Regular in 2014 is unfortunately a letdown
humans get more feats don't they?
Like, in terms of what. What are we suggesting?
Like my first ever time playing
Hello
Probably a one shot solo campaign, right?
And to learn the rules
Most important feats are not locked to being human. Furthermore, getting a feat to start out with in 2014 is only variant human, not regular
In 2024 you get a free origin feat, they could be referring to that
yes
Hold up bruh I'ma be gone from this discord I have to learn the rules better bruh
Doesn't mean you have ti leave
What so questioning bout it
?
You can just go to #dnd-newcomers
why
please don't call people "bruh", it's not very respectful. Folks here are happy to help new people with questions about the game.
If you are brand new, any module is fine to start, with something like Curse of Strahd being an exception as it's a little more difficult/bleaker
you don't want to play anymore because there are rules to learn? I don't understand
this is like one of the best places on the internet to learn the rules
Aside from actually playing with experienced people.
No I'm not going to like join the server till I learn the rules better
“Bruh” is not disrespectful, it’s a universal call out to anyone
well you're already here so that's not true lmao
I don't know what lmao means
ijbol
Wait
i guess so try the basic rules on dnd beyond https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/basic-rules-2014
Laughing my ahh off?
those are the 2014 rules though
Are there virtual games that are run through this discord?
it is not.. some people use it for everything but it's not universally accepted that way. It also derrives from "brother" and can be seen as gendering to people.
Not really but okay
not really what?
Sounds like a personal sensitivity to me
Not really gendering
you serious right now?
hi there, so we don't play game on this server, but we have channels to help connect users so games can be played off server. Check out #find-a-game to read how the Looking-for channels work
He is just trying to get on your nerve
Me?
TYVM!
I'm chillin over here
All Jayn was saying was "read the room"
“Bruh” is chill
Calling bruh someone is like saying "Wassup dog" to a literal stranger, it is weird, not offending
Can y'all tell me how you show who your responding to
I mean they told you not to use it and that’s the important part.
That’s a personal preference, doesn’t apply to everyone here
By all means keep arguing with the mod lol
Is Jayne the mod that's why her name is golden?
This is a case of "don't poke the bear"
It’s also a personal preference
She clearly personally doesn’t like “bruh”
I’m fine with it
🫳 🍿
It’s called a difference of opinion
I don’t really get the controversy over bruh but I’m not going to get upset if people don’t want to be called that shrug it’s not a big deal
I got on to chat with people who were experienced and good at the game or at least knew some stuff so could y'all like tell me good starter classes and races
Fighter is probably the best starter class
It falls under respect and courtesy.. It is a gendering term, though you may not intend it that way. Users have expressed their discomfort with the term, so we have adapted it under this rule. It's no different than being called "dude" or "bros" - those are also gendering terms.
Any further questions about the rules for the discord can be taken to #moderator-support as discussion outside that channel is off topic and future posts of that nature will be removed.
what kind of character do you want to be? like think about something from another game, movie or book that you would like to try to recreate
Sorcerer
I also agree here, I feel that Fighter and Barbarian can be simplest, mechanically speaking, for new folks to run with. And typically less squishy so survivability isn't an immediate worry.
Also Is Jayn a mod her names like golden
yes
Is plasmoid a good race?
Yes
My favourite class is cleric but it’s not a great beginner class
Sorcerer can be a little bit more complicated to learn on, but it's not impossible if you're starting at low levels. You just typically have a few more spells to keep track of, and some extra magical effects. It's not impossible, not the best starting class, very possible
especially if you're playing with a more experienced DM & players who can help you out
Tbh I’d recommend playing wizard before sorcerer
yes I am. you can click on a persons name to view their profile. that profile card also lists their roles on the server
For new players i always recommend fighter or paladin. For casters maybe cleric
oh there's a 2024 version
Yeah cleric is probably the easiest caster
yea
I think if people are dead set on a specific class, they should go for it. If they're a little more unsure then I would recommend something like fighter but if you're really sure you want to play sorcerer, go for it
Fighters are also my favorite class hands down
i like wizard the most though
I went straight to rogue
Cause I made a character named zibolb blob and he's a sorcerer plasmoid I don't know stats at all
Still havent played anything
I prefer witches
The great thing about DND is that any spellcaster can be a witch
I only want a boy character
Or a magical girl
Yep. A ‘witch’ in real life is pretty much a generic term for a magic user and can have different associations and typical qualities depending on the culture and archetype
I'm in america and witches are usually girls with magic
I feel like mainly wizards or warlocks are the most which like
@loud tendon how experienced are you in character concepts, cause dnd beyond doesn’t let you get creative, no Subraces or anything, won’t let a fighter class use magic, how do I do a concept, then make it work, even when it’s simple
Cause I wouldn’t really call a Cleric a witch
do plasmoids have a gender?
Fighter has a casting subclass, the Eldritch Knight
?? You can play an eldritch knight utilising beyond
Only a few species have subraces as well
I’m mostly just joking around lol, but yeah you’re right. I think certain cleric domains/gods could have witch iconography though
No but I'm referring to him as a boy
If you want to play a true Gish- try Pact of Blade warlock or Bladesinger
I mean historically sorcerer, warlock, witch, wizard, mage and magician were all collectively but also different terms used to refer to a variety of magic users but almost all fell into that same base factor of: casts spells.
I don’t have money, yeah, can’t unlock anything
Paladins and Rangers are the default gish classes.
good album, Gish
Join a campaign with someone who has a master tier subscription. They can share the materials they own with you when creating characters for that campaign
I could see a witch-flavoured cleric being cool come to think of it
I do agree I just don’t think of “divine caster” being a witch
Druids, too. Honestly "witch" is an aesthetic and flavor which means you can basically do it with any class.
A knowledge cleric could work as a witch for example
the basic rules are free but have limited options. there are a multitude of subclasses in the other books that allow for lots of creativity.. Also there are magical fighters.. Eldritch Knight is in 2024 and 2014 versions, Arcane Archer is 2014..
if anything witches skew Druid imo
I'ma check the other channels I been on this too long I just joined the server this is the only server I've been on
You make a good point
I meant channel
In any case it is true, many subspecies that were present in 2014 were made independent options or otherwise no longer referred to as subspecies in 2024
I’m not saying they can’t be witches it’s just not the first thing they came to mind when I thought of cleric but the concept sounds cool
your being objectively speaking as if what your saying is the whole truth like what do you mean fighters can’t use magic when Eldritch knight is a thing
?
Every class either has spell caster or an alternative which gives them magic like or spell like abilities
But I can’t unlock that in dnd beyond, so it’s always just the base class which is melee
Try home brewing something if you really can’t spend the money or find a campaign first
That's terrible advice. Jumping into homebrew as a newbie is a very bad idea.
Not what they meant
If you can’t buy the books you have a few possible options for use on D&DBeyond:
- If you can get outside access to the book such as owning a physical copy, going to the library, etc you can use DDB’s homebrew creator to port the option in so long as you don’t publish the homebrew on the site
- If you join a campaign on DDB and as long as someone has a master tier subscription and the book you need the DM can turn on content sharing
Ive either seen (or played) a witch flavored character with wizard, warlock, druid, sorcerer, bard, and artificer. Its very flexible.
(I was the artificer one)
I’m sorry but simulating an existing and popular niche doesn’t sound like a horrible idea if someone really does not have the funds
I think they thought you meant making their own homebrew, not copying from a book for personal use.
It is a terrible idea because someone who is new to DnD will not know how to create something that is properly balanced.
Unless you actually meant this.
Yes because I suggested they play eldritch knight, Play gish warlock or wizard, share materials via master tier subscription, or homebrew the caster fighter as a last resort. Which was the last of the suggestions
Honestly why are people in this server so aggressive
people are very passionate about D&D apparently
Can anyone here do that for me then
Soliciting for access to paid content is against server rules and D&D/D&DBeyond's terms of service
Then why did you tell me to do it
I didn't
Someone did
No - they said you can find a group playing D&D that can share the materials with you. This is okay and allowed on D&DBeyoind with it's content sharing functionality.
well maybe that wasn't a good idea 🤷♂️
I’m not giving advice to solicit that kind of stuff. I’m just stating an option for when you join a campaign
ah there you go
I have rabies. (This is a joke.)
Who would possibly do that
A group that you join to play D&D with
Go to #looking-for-players and #looking-for-community and see if there's a group willing to take you as a player
Old Yeller
Awesome
Noice!
damm, he left 🙁
Guess he didn't want rabies.
i don’t think anyone really ever goes up to level 20
That’s not true, there are definitely campaigns that go up to 20
But not all campaigns are meant to be played for a full 20 levels
Level 20 is the maximum for every campaign (sans homebrew), but not necessarily the endgame.
Wow man. Its a wild nugget in the wild
Whats a little guy like you doing here?
we're about to start Dragon Heist and then go into Dungeon of the Mad Mage. If we stick it out all the way the players will be lvl 20 by the end
same here, theyre level 5 rn
Gotta love Waterdeep, Undermountain, & the criminally underexplored Undercliffe countryside
hey dungeoneers
Dungeoning and dragoning
And making dad jokes/waiting to
dungeoneers
im beginning to regret leaving my last campaign
i think i frigged up
was I... the problem player?
I think i was the problem player all along
We wouldn’t know, you’d have to ask the people you were playing with
If you were at least you’re self aware
i done goofed 😔
Sorry to hear about the regrets but please try to condense your thoughts to one post. Single lines at a time can come off spammy or get interrupted by other users posting before you are done with all the lines.
sorry my bad just a bad habit
Awesome. Thanks for the help
yeah, turn around and be better right
Hello I'm new to DND and I wonder if anyone could help me understand it better
Welcome to the hobby! The peeps in #dnd-newcomers can help ya get oriented
Theres a Zachthebold skit about this
People go to 20
Level 20 or rather t3+ dnd just requires certain skills that not all dnd players possess in order to keep a game running healthily.
And of course YTer and social media's stigma of the levels doesn't help.
Sometimes it is just finding the right crowd/group and a DM. I have a campaign that has been running for 4 years. Another for 2 years.
People who can run/play t3+ possess what most who can't would call forbidden abilities
is there a place where i can post art of D&D style characters?
thanks
And the Profane Art of Reading
These two dark arts can lead to you running/playing in t3
Man id get too emotionally attached to the characters like a wimp
I'd cry if a multi year campaign ended
People make high levels sound like a nightmare but really it's just bigger numbers and bigger areas.
Aoes become 60ft circles rather than 10ft.
And hit bonuses go from single digits to double digits
Instead of a pitfall trap for 1d10, it's a Illusion trap hiding a 100ft chasm or a Disintegration Glyph.
Just used my party pet as a frag grenade how yalls day been.
Yeah if you don't have a good group, you won't make it to high levels as a healthy game if at all.
First session of Orien Trails complete, yippie
I need to start getting the rest of the people for my next campaign
Probably tomorrow as I'm too tired to type out posts
Got a lot to do tomorrow
Homebrewing. Finishing the maps for the school. Then making the encounters for my one shot tomorrow.
Does apps like roll 20 and DnD beyond work okay in tablets for online games?
You will be in my book some day fiend…
Dnd beyond is actually great on mobile
I guess I need to get a computer then if I want to do some online gaming I between my in person game
Question for chat
ohh if you’re using roll20, don’t bother with dynamic lighting… it’s a big “wow” factor at the start, but its usually just better to hide/reveal things manually
Can the attack action be used for a grapple?
Yes
Yes hold on, lemme get the rules.
Yes, very much so
i thought grapple was just a separate action??
is grapple an attack action?
You can use your reaction for opportunity attacks to grapple
The rules for grapple changed in 2024, which rules are you using?
No, it's never been.
Not just action, each attack can be replaced with on since its considered an Unarmed Stike (if its 2024)
interesting
2014
In 2014 Grapple was part of the Attack Action. In 2024 it's connected to any unarmed strike regardless of Action.
In 2014 you must take the Attack Action to grapple.
So is that a yes or a no?
It’s still attack action no matter the version. It’s just how the grapple is like rolled for success is changed
Still, yes, it only replaces one Attack
A yes
For your question is a yes for both rules
So Extra Attack means you can Grapple and attack too
As a monk you can also grapple with a bonus action unarmed strike
With 2024 rules
Just asking because I wondered if it's possible to use my action to grapple someone, then Shield Master BA to then try and shove prone
Too bad they don't get something like disadvantage on things like that
Ye 2014 grapple was eh
That sounds right, also this is more a #dnd-rules question you'd more likely get direct rules references quicker there.
Grapple is just an action, like dash or disengage.
No it's not.
It's part of the attack action.
I guess yes you can use the shield master feat because you are technically making an attack action
you replace an unarmed strike with the grapple which you need the attack action to do the original unarmed strike
Hello people I just got into the game any tips for beginners
I redirected him first haaaahaaa I win
Alr I’ll ask you questions if I still don’t understand
Have fun!
Make your turns consice
If there is a rogue in your party names flora who the DM tells all the plot and lore and she heads for a campaign vital item in session 0 without telling anyone, leave the group
What does consice mean
Quick and efficient
By the way how do I play dnd beyond if I have no friends
You join a campaign of strangers and make friends
How do I do that
I couldn't redirect him first 😔
Btw why the name flora specifically
Many online games are posted here or other places online. You can try your local games store for organised games in person or even places like facebook groups in your local area for people who are running games
Ehhh if they're named Rosa or lily then I think its fine
Next more important question what’s the best warlock build or is worlock buns
Just had second session with the group, it went awesome. I gave Rolen the monk a ball bearing of Magic Mouth of Detect Hostile Vibrations and it came in clutch, I also completely changed two encounters with Web and Phantasmal Force. We have a REALLY strong team.
Is Daphne bad or good 🤔
Daphne? I'd say its acceptable for a Daphne to TPK everyone and steal all the loot
I feel like Silas might be talking about something he has experienced himself. Disregard what he has said.
My DM already hates me for controlling his Night Hag with Phantasmal Force and not even giving her a chance to attack or do anything really lol. There were 2 other hags and I went easy on him, he also had 2 NPCs to play with so I don't feel too bad.
Warlock is definitely not buns and I recommend not worrying about “best” but more choose what you think is cool or what would be good to further make your character have more flavour to it
Name your character whatever you want.
It's a joke
It's clear the joke flew over his head.
Ima name my character after Silas
I kept using silvery barbs to make the night hag fail it's saving throws AND he was rolling low. He had advantage and everything.
Homebrew Apprentice…….that is a very interesting name I do agree 🤭🤭
Prioritize Charisma, constitution, and dexterity in that order. rest of stats is whatever
Which do I read first in dnd guide
Dumb question why con over Dex
You mean the free basic rules?
Read the players manual in order
Oh I have another question can warlock use scrolls or spell book ?
Playing The Game and Character Creation
For health cuz spellcasters are squishy? Idk ive never played warlock
Neither. Warlocks make a pact for their powers.
No class really gets mechanical boosts from a spell book apart from wizards
That’s fair neither have I lol 😂
Scrolls yes. Spellbooks are only for wizards.
Which is the best pacts
Subjective
There is no "Best" anything in DND, its all what you play and your style
Again don’t worry about “best” just pick what you think is cool 😎
The best is what you think is cool. Duh
Hmm next question would it be better for me to be the race that gives hellish rebuke or the celestial one for warlock
If we’re talking favourites, I love me a Celestial or Fiend warlock
I'd say be a celestial
-# because nugget said so idk
Short rest healer is king of dungeons
What does the celestial do for warlock or the fiend
Dexterity keeps you alive, con keeps you alive AND helps you concentrate.
Both are important behind your spellcasting stats though
Fiend is easier to get into. Celestial is better unless your melee
Thank you nugget my goat
Helo! Whatre you guys up to? :'DD
Helping a new guy
I mean. Warlock gets shadow armor. There one of the few classes that dont need dex
Celestial gives you healing and support capabilities, fiend is for when you really want to kill stuff
Okay okay i don’t think I give con enough love for my characters lol 😂
What’s fiends passive ?
Wdym passive?
I’d recommend you search it up, it’s a free subclass
I neglect dexterity and wisdom the most honestly
It's a shame that Heavy Armor Master is relatively useless past tier 1. Would be very fun to stack with temporary health
Shadow armor?
Yea. Its an invocation that gives at will mage armor
free mage armor
Difference between mage armor and usual armor?
Ah
For some reason my mind didn’t connect “Armor of Shadows” to “shadow armor”
I am playing a ranger so Dex is 17 Wis is 16 my poor little con is only a 14 (standard array)
Mage armor scales off casting score, and you dont need to be proficent Dex
Wait mage armor still uses Dex
Imagine standard array and not gambling your character away in 3 group rolls
yeah it uses dex
Ac uses dex so yeah
Question for chat
Mhm, so it’s slightly better than studded leather
Player or DM?
Type /looking-for-dm and fill out the form
Which Feat should I get first? Normally, this would be Lucky, no questions asked. But I feel like being an Oath of Glory Paladin would make Inspiring Leader fit very well for combat and roleplay
Then look around in #looking-for-players
2014 or 2024?
14
Lucky is the vanilla ice cream of feats, i say.
It's classic, reliable, but a little boring, if theres another option, I think you should choose another option.
Fair enough
As a monk main, I could never
Im tryna find a class to play
Probably bard from the way things are going as of now
Huh 🤔 I feel like my brain did not understand this
Bards are my second fav class
What is your like tier list of monk subclass based on aura not practicality
I was joking about using standard array and not doing the unpredictable gamble of rolling manually, standardly you manually roll 3 "groups", you roll a number of times equivalent to the basic scores, which you can then choose from.
Bad habits die hard
Okay, I have a devious and partially petty plan @glass granite
Oh yea I play on a AL table so standard array or point buy. I was dumb and said it was standard array I use point buy though lol
Shadow
Elemental warrior
Astral self
Kensei
Ascendant Dragon
Mercy (only higher if executed well)
Open Hand
I forgot the rest
I sort of CO DMed, managing people's positions out of combat and drawing on the board, as well as helping keep track of rules and such during combat. I think I may have bothered my party a little, I am a bit hasty when it comes to moving people, and my party still sees it as arguing with the DM sometimes rather than aiding him. It went really well though, I just have to learn some restraint and maybe take some more notes.
Who here seen Ryan coogler's "Sinners"
You remember that one homebrew rule where you sacrifice all 3 actions to move 5x movement speed?
If memory serves, Command (Flee) will make them run away from you via the quickest means possible on a failed save. Meaning that if someone walks past me that I want gone... this is like the miniature Banish
I do not remember the rule no
@potent mountain I don’t mind AL using point buy it stops someone coming to the table saying they rolled 18 for all stats.
I actually rolled a 19
Ahh yes 😵💫
Fools, I rolled a 21!
That rule exists for one of the campaigns I am in. If I wanted someone gone, they basically have to sprint away 140+ feet, which i can also do off of a reaction thanks to War Caster
What're yalls thoughts on PCs based on pop culture characters?
I rolled a 3 for one of my dnd beyond characters before which means I must've gotten 4 1's
Mildly (more than mildly) overdone
So you know Suggestion? It was rewritten in 2024 to where you can make an enemy just leave and not come back. With a concentration of 8 hours. Anything that doesn't obviously damage the creature.
I am a level 3 Paladin, though
Off topic for a quick second anyone in Australia watching the Sydney 500??
And Command is a level 1 spell
Sucks to suck
Inspiration is fine, but so often I see newbies try and copy the mechanics in the game or try and self insert them into the world.
Only time I’ve seen it do well in my games is the player playing the Knight from hollow knight.
...kaaay?
I guess it depends if the character is 1 to 1 the same as the pop culture character it's not great for a campaign
Were you trying to one up me or something?
Bro I got inspiration on my first time playing and I didn’t ask what it was and it wasn’t until the end of the session when I was like “what does this token do” and the table was like “umm it gives you advantage…” we had just finished a combat where it would have been very useful
A lot of great characters in fiction are inspired by previous characters in pop culture. That being said, yeah, one to one recreations arent good
That was mid last year though. I learnt my lesson lol 😂
Any tips for bard?
I like the idea of trying to recreate a pop culture character in dnd but playing that character in an actual campaign probably wouldn't work
Actually, on second thought
I'm taking Lucky. Primarily because I already have Heroism and Inspiring Smite
What about borrowing ideas
Learn to play an instrument irl and then bring that instrument to the table and truly inspire people
Remember persuasion is not mind control. Don’t push your luck too much
Wanted to do this
NPC idea.
A treeant that is the only tree for miles. It only talks to itself and no one else.
It is the Mono-Log.
If you can sing do that
Good inspiration: Strahd is inspired heavily by Dracula, but is still his own unique take on the trope
Bad inspiration; “this is Petros Parkaer. He’s a rogue/druid multiclass who uses a rope and turns into a spider
I don't see anything wrong with it if you're not actively trying to play that pop culture character
When it dies does it become a talking corpse, or a Die-a-logue?
That’s what his attack is called
Love it
Also technically a bard doesn’t have to be a musician. You can technically be an artist so you could carry an easel and some paint and that is your spell casting thing lol 😂
Or a writer! My fav bard I’ve played was a playwright
Chef bard would be so cool
Notably the spell foci are still instruments.
No lol I was being unfunny
Funny to me, at least.
The paintbrush is the instrument…….
Actually interesting there is a subclass based on casting spells by writing it or drawing it.
It’s the Cartographer subclass for 2025’s Artificer
Singing. My spell focus is my vocal cords
Microphone!
A triangle
Guys tomorrow will conclude one week of no campaign
What kind of disposable revivification items ar ethere in dnd? Say a character gets killed and needs to be revivified.
I wish you luck on that
spell scrolls
Ok gn dungeoneers
Can anyone use those or only some classes?
My dm gave us 4 wishes from a deck of many things so a revival wish could work
Only a class that has the spell on it’s spell list
Only if its on your spell list. Otherwise, Spellwrought Tattoos
That is insane
I guess a diamond of a certain gold piece price is a component for revivify
There is Spell Tattoos that can get around it but those max at 5th level
Spellcasting Focus: You can use a Musical Instrument as a Spellcasting Focus for your Bard spells.
If we are getting technical with the wording it sates you CAN use a musical instrument it’s doesn’t necessarily cause you HAVE to use one
which does include revivify, raise dead, and reinarnate
I got the 1 wish card and the dms character(hes playing in the world aswell idk why) got a triple wish
Uh weird.
technically speaking, you cant use paintbrushes as spellcasting foci either (as much as i want a sketch bard)
ok thanks
might wanna save the Moon card
I already used it
damn, what for?
Resistance against wild surge
wot?
We had 3 spellcasters
Basically a chance for your spell to go haywire and cause a random effect
sorry, just never seen anyone who wanted not to Wild Magic Surge in the first place
I really feel like college of creation is an artist 🧑🎨
I mean to be fair our wizard nearly died from one activating on his fireball so i feel like its fair
But I guess if we are talking RAW no you can’t use any of the “arts” as a bard which sucks so much cause not all bards should be confined to being a musician
Is this channel allowed for just general stuff about dnd like small things that happen in campaigns that arent big enough to be put in #tales-from-the-table ?
I just wanna be sure
generally, any tales go there
Ok just wanted to check before sending something
Unless I am mistaken with this
you cant just use any tool as a spellcasting foci yeah
I feel like for bards it’s just slightly a pain cause in their description and their subclasses they are not just “musicians” but the way dnd RAW is stated they kinda have to be or they can suffer and use another spell casting focus
you can use component pouches iirc
i think if artificer didnt exist beforehand 2024 bard wouldve gotten to use tools as spellcasting foci
I feel like artificers should be strictly Inventive tools where as bards could be creative tools
artisans tools makes no difference between those two
What if my bard was an actor. Like why should they have to use a lute (i just picked a random instrument) and not just have like a “disguise kit” or a “costume” as their spell casting focus. It’s dumb to do that yes but it fits the actor better than a lute or just a components pouch
Bards are about words. The way they speak, the music they make. To be a bard is to be a story teller. There level 20 cap stone gives them the ability to kill or allay a target. There music often comes from pitch and the way they speak, so it does make sense why they cant with a tool that... doesnt do that
I might suggest there is no difference between inventive tools and creative tools
Is it cool? Yes. But its 5e
Open Hand has Kenshiro vibes and Astral Self is literally jojo
Fair fair…..it just feels like to me the bard is the most like “boxed in” class when it comes to how you can flavour it in a sense
Warlock is right there tho. It basically comes built-in with a subplot
But you can literally be anyone as a warlock. There are no like set in stone things before signing your pact
I was playing a funny little game with my friends and while I was alseep they replaced me and when I confronted them about it one of them to my face said “yeah your replaceable”
It’s okay Tasha no one can replace you 💕
Help DND club for my school is tommorow and ive barely done my character sheet and i need to fill it out fast what are some extremely basic boring stats for a bard , (I know nothing about DND this is my first time)
I made my character sheet 15 minutes before session 2 started, don't worry
first, don't panic, tell us, what do you want to play as? what type of bard? swords? eloquence?
The guy who plays violin and casts spells
if you're level 1 don't worry about it?
Lore bard then?
i have absolutely no clue the only RPGs ive ever played is EarthBound and i agreed to join because i thought DND would be like EarthBound lol
what level would your character be?
im gonna go with level 1
You didn't ask the group?
They didnt even mention it
I guess I can see that. But a great way to add flavor to a bard is culture. A orcish drummer who chants war toons into battle. A bard fighter who inspiers there allies, and rallys them to victory. A blusy bard, with a lax view on life. A passionate violinist. And, a lot more.
Just build the character more id say
the guy who i asked to fill out my sheet didnt even mention it
Right but if you're level 1 and they're all level 3 that'll be awkward
What are the best utility feats? Does background impact much?
Sure, I guess it's easier to level up than to level down on physical sheets
right, the spells you want is tasha's hideous laghter, it makes other people laugh
sleep, explanatory
and viscous mockery
Make a level 1 character then
anything else, you can just ask around people at the table
yeah im just gonna ask them on the day
because level 1 doesn't matter that much what build you have
Yeah
play a bard the way you think a bard plays, at least for level 1
For now, I recommend reading on how to play the game
all i know is that DND is basicly an RPG powered by imagination
and from the funny youtube shorts with chuckles the clown
Are you going to use dndbeyond, roll20, pen and paper for your adventure? Any other resource?
it's powered by rules
I have been born into this server. Hello chat
Try using the character creator on D&D Beyond to get an idea of how to make a character, it'll guide you through it. Not all the options are available for free, but it shows you what the process is like.
You pick your class, race, attributes, background, skills, equipment, and spells. As a Bard your main stat priority is charisma, then dexterity and constitution, then anything else for the rest.
keep your expectations in check, every table plays differently, that is to say every group who plays plays differently
especially in something like a school club
Legends of Avantris, yeah, pretty fun, they rarely get anything done due to their antics lol, but keep in mind not all DnD games are like that
Something like World of Io's shorts is more down to the game, with a lot of funny moments as well
My friend group has a legendary sense of humour so I bet my campaigns gonna be like legends of avantris
Not all good friends are good DnD friends unfortunately
Did they at least tell you what ruleset you are using 2014 or 2024 or an older one or home brew
No they did not
did they even give you a sheet to fill?
Do they know DnD?
They did
Closer to freeform roleplay for the record but with rules and a set scenario
could be that you're making a character there
I would send a photo of the sheet but I can’t send photos
This seems like a very helpful amount of information you have been given 😬
Just ask what edition it is
So you are going to use pen and paper rather than online stuff?
I'm going to tell you this, RPG, as in tabletop rpg is different than RPG as in the videogame genre
the latter exists to emulate the former
Yeah I know I just didn’t think it would be THIS different
You make it sound like pen and paper is bad lol
It can be a little daunting at first, but you'll get used to it over time.
I dont. That is what you interpret. I'm just trying to figure out the setting. 🙂
pen & paper is unironically goated
I mean hey, if they don't tell you how to make a character but expects you to already know how to, that's on them
except if you clearly said you can do it
DnD is play pretend for big kids with rules ☺️
Are any of them like veteran players?
TTRPGs also defy common tropes found in JRPGs too, healers and tanks aren't that much of a thing
Because when I first started I had like 2 experienced people to guide the whole thing
please don't tell the server your age
two years then?
Yeah two years
Alright so at least they probably know the rules and mechanics
Two years, depending on how frequently they played, they could be really experienced or moderately experienced
They were part of the og dnd club
I guess it's fine
If it’s friends from school can you message them or will you see them before the first session?
they'll know how to teach you start playing, so don't really worry too much
and the people here will make you feel discouraged sometimes, your game will probably not be as complicated as we make it out to be
Yeah yes I can but the session is after school so I have enough time to prepare
you got a rulebook you can skim?
Yeah but it’s online, I think I got it covered I’ll come back here when the session went well, I’m hoping it will be as hilarious as legends of avantris.
Lucas/Ness feel closer to Sorcerers so you can look into those for when you start
Wait it’s online……I thought it was in person lol 😂
Oh no no the rule books online
Everything else is in person
Ohhh 😮 I understand digital handbook
remember to bring snacks, unless you're fasting, most important rule
Did they tell you what player handbook to read or is it like the shared resource on DnD beyond?
I second this. They would be more akin to Aberrant Mind Sorcerer, but that also requires playing a kid in a DnD setting
Do with that as you will
@tepid fiber ? Sorry not sure if you saw this
im gonna go check
ill be back after the first campaign see ya folks
Sent off into the trenches
Alrighty, pretty much if it had a big giant on the cover it’s 2014 rules if it has dragon it is 2024 rules. Idk what the basic rules have on the cover but have fun 🤩
in 5.24 does push confer an attack of opportunity?
no
attack of opportunity only triggers on movement, as in one of the things you can do in a turn
Opportunity Attacks
You can make an Opportunity Attack when a creature that you can see leaves your reach using its action, its Bonus Action, its Reaction, or one of its speeds. To make the Opportunity Attack, take a Reaction to make one melee attack with a weapon or an Unarmed Strike against the provoking creature. The attack occurs right before the creature leaves your reach. See also chapter 1 (“Combat”).
oh?
using its action that's the bit i was missing
yeah but there's not many actions that lets you move with the action
on top of my head is swords bard?
Dash is using the action to move and would provoke an opportunity attack
not sure i'm following you now... the rule basically implies that it must be the model choosing to leave your reach to bestow that attack of opportunity... a spell or ability that pushes/pulls something past another character is NOT good enough
Correct
also, am i reading the feat Dual Wielder properly that it allows the bonus attack to be with a 1h weapon that doesnt have light property?
i'm thinking of War Pick + Battlaxe combination for sap/topple hyjinx
what's the oldest edition that you know someone is still playing? because I've got a buddy here still playing 2nd edition campaigns
Knocking something prone gives them disadvantage on melee attack rolls already
If you are referring to if another party member pushes an enemy and they go out of your attack range then NO you cannot make an opportunity attack as it wasn’t their movement that got them to move out of your range.
I know some folks who still play 1e. They are in their sixties.
Topple is nice but it conflicts with ranged characters if you have a bunch of those in the party.
nah just roll better
sure, but that prone person can stand up, giving up half move, and no longer have prone and then attack you
ranged characters need to learn they can't be in a different room
Watch me. I'll be on another continent and shoot that zombie.
Ranged combatants need to learn to square the hell up
raaah
if they want me to care about their attack roll disadvantage, then they can get up on the front line with me
Ranged heros matter. You ain’t the main character
nuh uh, they'll get their spotlight
Everyone is the main character fr fr
ranged characters should be positioning to take out other ranged characters 🙂
They still roll with disadvantage tho unless they have xbow expert or some similar. But I hear you. Melee crushers unite 🙂
they'll get a spider on the wall to shoot
tho I did just climb that wall and throw my sword at the spider
knock it down for me, i got a hammer to say hi with
Best survival strategy is to just be as far away from the enemy as possible.
And still shoot them in the face.
the "Sir Robbin" approach
ranged has their places, don't feel the need to accomodate them at all times, if their character sucks when the enemy is proned, that's a decision the ranged player picked to be in
Rangers are already way ahead of you
That’s not their only job. Plus if you charge their ranged characters then they will have disadvantage to hit you. Also a lot of ranged characters have crowd control spells or stuff.
Technically still a DnD topic: i went to a renfaire just yesterday and bought myself two new dice sets eyyyy
Still feels wrong to me that prone causes disadvantage on ranged attacks.
smaller hitbox
How?
you're literally half the size you were?
What? No. The whole body is still able to be hit. And they can't move as well as before.
🧍♂️ and then turn it sideways
think of drawing a bow on something standing up... now, have that same target lay flat on the ground
dnd kinda don't differentiate moving targets and non moving targets
Yeah... that's easier to hit.
so you've never shot a bow... got it
I have.
Technically, a ranged attack from a martial weapon needs an estimate of range and a bad estimate is going to affect the hit point in the vertical direction. As prone characters present a smaller vertical profile while prone so it is harder to hit them. But that is probably me overthinking it?
See my thing is I don’t think you should get disadvantaged if you are within melee range and the person is prone cause that would be easier but yea at range definitely harder
well look in the opposite
Plenty, in fact.
take that big squar 4'x4' target you're shooting at... now lay it flat to a 6" tall 4' wide object... which is easier to hit
You're talking about actual real distanced targets.
30 feet is nothing.
It is definitely harder to hit this __ than this |
now... should it be disadvantage or 1/2 cover... that's a good argument
It really isn't. It's easier, if anything.
what like +2AC specifically for ranged?
Brother……….you are thick
for balance purposes I really like disadvantage, since so many effects just puts you prone
harder to move but you can't get rushed by ranged checking you to be a weak spot
Dnd 5 introduced ADV and DIS to prevent the tedious adding and subtracting of modifiers so for 5e DIS seems obvious. Maybe in older versions modifiers to AC were more common?
I personally think that prone being harder to hit seeming odd (despite being stationary) mostly comes down to the fact that turn-based combat makes it significantly harder to intuitively understand difficulties in the chaos of combat.
I don't see it being about the ability to aim, but the ability to focus one's eyes and accurately aim center mass while chaos is going on.
also prone is free, you can just always do it, the only cost is to go back up
it can be a way to get closer to an enemy defense
There's no such thing as "free" actions.
If you go prone on your own accord can you move?
Mechanically speaking.
you can move then go prone
Move yes but half speed
Ofc, 5e doesn't care about simulationism to the point that it would do anything with angles, which is where prone being bad makes more sense when you have low ground against someone.
What's the best way your DM ever described a scene to the point you actually felt scared?
heh, I know the worst way
"You need to roll a saving throw and if you roll below 10 you will die" is pretty scary. But that wasnt the question i guess 😉
I personally think the concept of concealment vs cover in some older editions more accurately conveys why prone would give Disadvantage from a sightline perspective.
5e is a mismatch of many ideas working together all at once
yeah, planning to describe a flesh golem as having the face of their comrade who died, their eyes filled with indifference as they no longer have the will to fight, but being a construct they must obey their master and attack what was once their friends
I personaly love more thorough cover system
It's meant to be friendly to people from every edition, aye, so it truly is a mishmash.
You think it would be interesting to make prone attacks disadvantage on melee only?
If A is shooting at B and B goes horizontally prone in relation to A, then maybe just maybe the disadvantage makes sense.
However, if B goes vertically prone in relation to A? Then disadvantage makes no sense.
Unfortunately there's nothing stating whether prone has someone end up on their knees, their back, their front, or their side. Prone is simply a condition that results in certain game effects coming into play - Some of which don't always make diagetic sense in relation to the narrative.
It's possible to make such things narratively satisfying, but is often something that takes significant time in the game, ye.
Speaking from 2e, it takes significant time lol
it's advantage on melee
Being Prone Combatants often find themselves lying on the ground, either because they are knocked down or because they throw themselves down. that's right from the 2014 books description
I am going to make this character based off Shepherd Leaping. I was thinking a Scout Rogue, with the pole reflavored as a Quarterstaff. Any thoughts?
Now, running games, if the archer is above enough, i do not give disadvantage if it make sense
could tell us more on #character-discussion
Yeah... and it aligns to what I said. I don't know why you provided this quote.
Lying on the ground doesn't define the orientation of their body on the ground, nor it's relative orientation to their enemies.
i just dont get where you are coming up with "Vertically prone" as it technically contradicts the definition of prone (lying flat)
I assume it's referring to the orientation being parallel to the Y-axis as opposed to parallel on the X-axis.
I'm lying down in bed right now. I'd be "vertically prone" in relation to someone standing at the foot of my bed.
Prone is just prone. You can't be "verticily paralized"
Whereas if someone were at the side of my bed I'd be horizontally prone in relation to them.
The only way I'm describing it like this is because people were doing _ vs | to indicate prone vs standing earlier
If we view a 2D plane from above and designate a point as (X,Y) = (0,0), something in a line from (0,0) to (0,1) would be in the same orientation on the ground as it would be if we introduced a Z-axis and it was in a line from (0,0,0) to (0,0,1).
(That's just a lot harder to understand than "vertically prone" if one doesn't use that terminology, though.)
If you are prone, all attack rolls you make have disadvantage
I'm saying it would be interesting and make sense to change it from all to just melee
I just got a terrifying idea
Running the largest DnD game ever
Can one DM run a session for over 100 players?
no
No
Why would you?
get ready for the 4 hour round
5 people is already a lot of players for most
I said it was a terrifying idea
The thing is it wouldn't be as funny as you'd think. One combat would take a day
I have no interest in being in a room with 100 other people let alone having to manage all those interactions.
Just imagining one hundred players all going on a dungeon crawl together
100 players vs Tomb of Horrors
i can, and i dont want to anymore
Running a 100 player session is basically what the Speaker/Chair is doing in IRL parliament. I'm not into politics for a reason....
D&D, the ttrpg, is not an MMO. It isn't a video game.
I would like to show a screenshot of my folder of artworks I commisioned for my character, but I didn't draw any of them, do I have to mention every single artist that I commisioned inside the folder?
They're very different mediums.
ok imagine them
tell me how 100 people would do this and how big the table is
you could just post several at a time of the same artist or someting
I honestly have lost count by now
I'm thinking having 100 players in like crowd seating with the map projected on a screen on stage. Everyone has access to a microphone to speak up if they want or can chat with other players.
how long do you guys play d&d for with your group?
Have to? No. Should you? That's a moral argument you'd need to have with yourself.
Usually 3 hours at a time
3-4 hours
usually 3 hours, 6 at the most
2 hours with a spare 30
I've heard people do 12 hour sessions and that seems like a LOT
that sounds like your typical public discord server
Yea, I guess it does
I think I actually have to, as per the rules of the server, but maybe a mod can tell me if I should mention every artist
Those are in person sessions and aren't actually 12 hours of of playing. That's hanging out for the day and playing dnd on and off.
That sounds better than 12 hours hunched over a table
I miiiight have ADD
crowds tire me
I'd pass out in like 20 minutes if I have to focus on what's going on
It's okay. Just do some subtraction. Like minus 95 people.
Instructions unclear. Crowd size doubled
I mean I guess you can do 100 people over different sessions
but now it becomes a logistical issue
I've tried to play DnD with two groups in the same world together and that did not work
I've also TPK'd a group with a crocodile
all of my fr games and homebrew setting games take place in the same setting roughly within months of eath other
question, do i just use the slash looking for players, and it'll send me a message?
A form yes
Even bg3 which automates a lot of stuff in dnd could not possibly handle a 100 player combat scenario
got it!
make sure you read eveything before posting, you need to wait 7 days if you put something wrong
the urge to run icewind dale grows ever stronger
you say this like every 3 days
and it only grows truer each time
doit 
Lucky! I hope your DM was there for that roll 
Aloha any dms hosting any upcoming campaigns or sessions 0 for newbies
got 6 campaigns already 
I'm rolling for a bg3 thing so it doesn't really matter I gues Shadowheart just gets a really good wisdom score (I'm playing bg3 but rolling everyones stats by hand instead of point buy)
There's the Choose Your Stats mod for a true rolling experience
I'm using it to hand put in the stats I rolled on my real d6s
Epic
That's already way beyond what I personally would do, so clearly you have a higher tolerance. 
Oh same, but even still. 
learning to let go of my hold on how the plot goes tends to be a bit of a breather for me 
My oathbreaker arc grows thinner as i have been allowed by my dm to make a new smite. Unholy smite, deals 2d8 necrotic and target cant heal until next round
stupid question dragons vs ww1 anti air who wins
depends entirely on what type of dragon you use
on average who wins
depends quantity and age of dragon mostly
Random question but dragonscales do be thick
monster hunter dragons? how to train your dragon dragons? dungeon and dragons dragons? lord of the rings?
assuming dnd dragons, they have the edge.
magic does things to help tilt the battle
Interesting
blue dragons can go invisible, and can cast a spell that does more damage to objects. anti air equipment would be considered objects
I'd imagine in general a dragon would win
Because its ww1 yeah
Modern antiair would definitely butcher a dragon with certain specific spells
Basically any dragon that is exposed to its fire for like 2 rounds would be done
Only counting bland dragons here, not greatwyrms etc
I am playing too many NPCs at once to the point I'm talking to myself for 5 minutes every few minutes
Nature cleric is flagged as legacy of dnd beyond, but it hasn’t been reprinted… has it?
Riiight, but still backwards compatible - dnd beyond is weird sometimes
Theoretically all of them are backwards compatible, but I assume they wanted to save themselves some work for setting up the editor options.
Barbarian did 225 damage with one attack. Good times
Wow you draw good!
Dnd daaaay, best day of the week
just finished an awesome session
Hey guys
Damm thats sick, how did it go?
for periods of a time I had to talk myself for several minutes because I was playing so many NPCs, and the players liked the reveal that they had to sacrifice a party member of theirs (an NPC)
Sounds cool
Tbh the satisfaction of finishing a session will always be satisfying
I mean I finally finished making my charcter (artwork wise, I still need to tweak the sheet)
Yesterday my group successfully outran the Wild Hunt to reach temporary safety. We now have Dinner with a Noble Lady of the Summer Court. This surely won't be full of danger.
As somone who has seen many situations with "this wont be bad"
It will be bro
Guys, I'm someone who decided to go down the d&d rabbit hole just a while ago and don't know much about the game so can someone show me the ropes? The d&d create character page isn't loading for me for some reason so I haven't created a character yet
Sure! What do you need help with?
Like once I create a character I'll be playing w my irl frnds (I'm gonna force them to start playing) so how does things work is there a video or someplace where the rules and stuff are written down?
Books
There's books, I can help you understand the very basics in summary if you want.
I'm not yet ready to put money here so is there any free stuff you might recommend me?
Check out the #dnd-newcomers channel. It has links to the free rules and video guides.
Thanks a lot
This is the way
DnD is a lot simpler then you'd think. It has a high ceiling but the basics to start playing aren't that complex.
Don't worry, everyone plays the game in their own way. And be mindful of homebrew, they vary a lot from group to group
Is it just me or is there a shortage of DMs?
....eh?
I feel like the player to DM ratio has increased.
I mean, I believe it is more difficult to find a text game than a GM for ttrpgs lately
For sure, and I mean in general it feels like there's far more players then DMs compared to before.
Oh sorry, you talking about the dnd scope?
No pinging pls
I know for a fact it’s high, though I’ve only been here less than 6 months
Oh my bad.
I'm not quite sure what you're referring to there, could you please elaborate?
Have you checked the forum page "looking for group and player", in the dnd beyond site?