dnd-discussion

[dreamy crag]

barely any community or DMs that focused more on medieval fantasy rather than modern...sigh😢😢the latest ones are 1-3 years go

[latent mica]

Welp, that’s a shame, I was really hoping digital could help track a 5-man party of companion subclasses. Guess we’re sticking to good ol’ fashioned pen and paper.

[flat glade]

Dont quote me though lmao

[worn lagoon]

heavy armor is an option as a paladin ig

[flat glade]

Id totally rock the heavy armor, i dont care too much for stealth

[worn lagoon]

its just more expensive and dumping dex has other consequences

mind you its not as disastrous as bg3 dex dumping which tosses you at the bottom of the init list

we roll a d20 for initiative here not a d4

[analog phoenix]

Chronurgy fan when I cast meteor swarm before there turn (there gonna die from the damage any way)

[harsh hollow]

It's surprising to me some of the things it can't do. There are 3rd party subclasses that have been released that can use Warlock invocations but for backend reasons you can't actually select those on your sheet if you're not a warlock.

[worn lagoon]

half plate/medium armor also imposes disadvantage on stealth fyi

[flat glade]

I could handle being slightly later, my int and wis are a dump stat really so id keep a high str, with cha second and con third

[flat glade]

I might as well rock heavy armor since i dont mind not being quiet lol

[worn lagoon]

elixirs are better than natural strength and you should have 16 dex and hellrider's bow to go first

[flat glade]

True but they dont exactly have alot of hill giant strength lying around lol

[harsh hollow]

I'm not entirely sure to what extent some of these limitations are just them not wanting to touch ancient code though.

[worn lagoon]

you do
ethel sells 3/lr/level up
a lot of various vendors sell them and cloud giant

[hoary totem]

counterspell goes brrrrr

[hoary totem]

non chronurgy wizard fan when my familiar casts wall of force with a bead and i cast sickening radiance

[worn lagoon]

beads sound fun

[flat glade]

Oh in bg3 yea there's lots, i have like 12 of them in my current playthrough

[worn lagoon]

ok whew

but then yeah you can dump dex here it doesnt ruin you

[hoary totem]

chronurgy wizards can use their level 10 ability to freeze spells as beads and have anyone (including non casters and familiars) cast them using the wizard's stats

[flat glade]

Sorry, i was talking regular dnd lol, but yea im doing a 2 pal 10 bard run

[worn lagoon]

I know what they are dw

[hoary totem]

What they are: extremely broken.

[harsh hollow]

The Valda's chronurgy is 3rd party but a lot of fun. Also considered extremely broken though.

[flat glade]

Im glad i joined this server 2 days ago, I love talking about dnd lol

[harsh hollow]

The idea of a Warlock where your patron is you from a bad future is so cool though!

[flat glade]

You ever play the first infamous game?

[harsh hollow]

No but I'll assume that's relevant. You ever watch the new Buzz Lightyear movie?

[flat glade]

I have not no, but isnt zurg like buzz? Im guessing kinda lol

[steel whale]

So far for the UA subclasses has it just been the preservation druid for druids?

[flat glade]

The main villian is you from a future timeline

[harsh hollow]

Ahh, gotcha.

Speaking of UA, I really hope the Reanimator Artificer makes it.

Such a neat idea.

[echo fractal]

Highkey been thinking about mixing it up and going for a bard build, I made a character for it a moments ago but Ive really only ever played cleric so it'll be a change of pace

[hoary totem]

clerics are goated

[echo fractal]

True

[hoary totem]

screw healbotting i'm just going to sit back and give everyone bonuses on their ability checks and drop in a fireball and spirit guardians from time to time

[echo fractal]

I went into my most recent campaign wanting to be a pure support cleric but here i am carrying the team and dealing the most damage in most encounters sighh

[cobalt owl]

Celestial warlock is the true healbot

Welcome to spirit guardians

I don't even know if it is spirit guardians you're using

But it usually is the go to option for almost all clerics

[echo fractal]

My damage spell is Inflict Wounds mainly icl

[cobalt owl]

Inflict wounds...

[echo fractal]

I also have Sacred Flame as a cantrip but this character was me trying to get into character building on my own in a way

[echo fractal]

I mean its done me wonders (when ive actually been close to the enemy)

[cobalt owl]

If you're close to the enemy thats usually a problem.

This post was made by the skeleton

[echo fractal]

Ah I guess that is true, but sometimes it can be the play when you have a melee fighter who is constantly trying to aggro every enemy in a 10 mile radius 😭

[cobalt owl]

Poor melee fighter

[umbral girder]

Interesting

Elminster is a former Chosen of Mystra.

[echo fractal]

He's very new

Heck hes the only one whos actually had to get stabilized AND revived in this campaign

Its mainly because he thinks an AC of 18 makes him invincible 😭

[cobalt owl]

AC matters way less once you reach a certain level

[echo fractal]

This campaigns at level 5 currently

[cobalt owl]

I think the cutoff is 9 for AC meaning anything

[echo fractal]

Even then, hit mods kinda just throw that idea of safety out the window for ac on some enemies we have

[royal jungle]

the minecraft skeleton has the most aura out of EVERY fictional being

[cobalt owl]

Clanks

An exploration one kinda. Its all about doing stuff on a new island

[royal jungle]

real question is how do you get into a campaign 😔 can't find a single available one

[cobalt owl]

Look for openings and strike first strike true

[limber trail]

You can have an AC that matters past 9, but it requires more and more resources and items going towards it

[sand solar]

Wassup

[cobalt owl]

It is notably a lot more difficult to get one that does matter lol

[sand solar]

Nvm

[cobalt owl]

Lmao

[knotty pasture]

Bard's probably one of the weaker legit options you can choose to multiclass with Paladin

Not bad by any means though

[hot marlin]

My rule of thumb is that everyone wants an AC where the average enemy you will meet will miss you two times out of five. Everyone who goes in melee range wants an AC where the average enemy you will meet will miss you half the time

[knotty pasture]

But in 5e you'd push Paladin to 7 before multiclassing out to Bard

[cobalt owl]

Theres an argument to be made for 6 only depending on which paladin you are

[worn lagoon]

is 2 paladin dead

[knotty pasture]

Well no its moreso bc of how extra attack and aura are that good

Only Vengeance should multi out at 6 because its level 7 feature is middling

Crown multis out at 9 because Spirit Guardians is peak

[worn lagoon]

crown multis in the last 5 minutes of the campaign

[knotty pasture]

Basically yea, but by that point you'd rather pick Watchers or Oathbreaker (if it isn't banned) or even Devotion, which are stronger monoclass picks

On the other hand, Spirit Guardians Crown Paladin is like the most frontliner tank we can possibly get

[cobalt owl]

Milions must spirit guardians

[harsh wedge]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I just realized that the "fantasy female armor" that exposes their body is a valid option to wear, since ya know, they can heal their injuries after a battle

[marble lion]

I dont think that really has much to do with it

[glass granite]

Would it not be better to not get hurt
Or killed

[marble lion]

By that logic, any armour is useless

However, light armour is pretty valid anyway

Bare skin is bad though imo
Even one cloth layer helps lessen cuts

[glass granite]

Monk go brrr

[marble lion]

Unarmoured is something else

I was talking normal fighting

[glass granite]

I know, I just like monk.

[harsh wedge]

I mean yeah to a degree it works/doesn't, logically, a string thin "armor" won't work, but a just chest plate would protect your chest organs

[limber trail]

you can also heal your injuries after battle while wearing actual armour, and it comes without the cost of exposing your critical organs

[wise mica]

Best armor is fully concealing and weighs over a thousand pounds. Even Samus agrees and everyone knows her reputation.

[glass granite]

Yeah having armor saves spending spell slots to heal after, and also not dying

[marble lion]

You know cut tendons may not be vital, but try not getting finished before next healing session without a working arm or leg or torso flex

You cant heal if you die before then

Which is the more important use of armour

[glass granite]

Unless you want to spend an arm and leg for revivify, but at that point use the money to buy regular armor

[marble lion]

If youre still alive....

[harsh wedge]

What sort of games are y'all getting into where the DM is actively and constantly targeting your characters weak spots

[marble lion]

None, im talking reason

[glass granite]

It’s just AC.

[marble lion]

You brought up logic so were getting into logic

[glass granite]

And also if we’re speaking logically yes enemies would target the bare skin instead of the metal armour

[harsh wedge]

It's still a character in a fantasy setting, so I can use the fantasy resources logically

[marble lion]

"Bikini armour fine cuz you can heal after"
Is an attempt at rationalising bad protection

A bad attempt because you cant heal if you die before then

[harsh wedge]

^

[limber trail]

yeah that's what we're saying, a chest plate would protect your organs where string armour won't

[marble lion]

No

Im saying that youll still die more than if you wore actual protection

A chest plate isnt as good as a full harness

[limber trail]

Wait does this person mean only a chest plate?

[marble lion]

Your reasoning seems a little shortlegged

Sure you can help postbattle healing

[glass granite]

Fantasy logic goes down to “what is cool or fun for the story”, rationalising it with regular logic (what you were doing) doesn’t really work.
Plus, you proposed a logical proposal, we told you why that proposal doesn’t make sense to us

[marble lion]

But you still need to worry about dying midfight

If you want bikini armour, just do it. Dont reason

You can flavour weaker armour as that though

I used to replace my 14ac as just a metal mask and leather harness

[limber trail]

Fantasy settings are still settings with internal rules & cohesion & logic. The fact that it's a fantasy settings with fantasy elements (healing magic) doesn't mean those fantasy settings are always a good idea - it'll always be better to not take a hit at all than to take a hit and heal it after

[marble lion]

But if a dm doesnt like your 18ac plate being a skyrim mod of the week, dont be surprised

[quiet mist]

Heya quick question.
I’m making a dnd hombrew brew subclass. As a viewer is there any way to view a feature level scaling?

[glass granite]

On dnd beyond?

[quiet mist]

Yes

[glass granite]

I’m not too sure, maybe try #ddb-support …
Unless someone here knows

[limber trail]

Generally if a feature scales with your levels, you would state it in the text of the feature. Something like "You gain additional uses of this feature at level 5, 9, 13, and 17" or "this damage dice increases at level 7 (1d10) and 14 (1d12)", but anything more involved than that I can't say

[quiet mist]

Ah ok thanks 🙏

[wide pumice]

Yeah, that’s generally how it’s done. If a feature scales, the text usually just calls it out directly with specific levels or clear breakpoints.

Mostly x or on discord as well

[undone rain]

Better off wearing padded armor at that point

[feral fulcrum]

I think we're forgetting that D&D involves magic and regularly tosses logic out the window. You've got magical tattoos and spells of "Here's an armor class."

[wide pumice]

Hello

How are you doing?

[feral fulcrum]

Flavor your armor as you please so long as the DM's onboard with it, it's fine.

[wide pumice]

So you need one of them?

[undone rain]

Im sorry but ive always just despised such armor, cuz its just noooo

Dont like it one bit

[lilac kelp]

Why?

[quiet mist]

I clicked on (Tiamat The dark lady) profile and that shiz blinded me.

[junior walrus]

@wide pumice no I was just curious where consumers look for artists

[quiet mist]

(Nvm it’s easier on the eyes the second time around)

[marble lion]

Noones forgetting it. You may want to reread the convo

But if someone argues logic, then that may be criticised based on logic, even in a fantasy world

[wide pumice]

One of my friend commission her character from Reddit also.

[marble lion]

And a mention because this point is misused way too often: fantasy may not be realistic but good fiction will still have internal logic

[feral fulcrum]

Whatever floats your goat.

[marble lion]

Dragons existing doesnt throw all rational thought out

[marble lion]

Careful reading of discussions really floats my goat personally

[glass granite]

Yoooo are we floating goats now?

[feral fulcrum]

Neat.

[marble lion]

Example supporting do-what-you-like approach

[signal vault]

Hey gang, anyone wanna help me with something really quick

[undone rain]

Yeah do what you like, while i enjoy my women in full plate like a walking tank

[wide pumice]

Exactly... That point gets overlooked all the time. Fantasy doesn’t have to mirror reality, but it does need rules that make sense within its own world.

[hot marlin]

#find-a-game

[tawny vessel]

Ty

[hot marlin]

In case you didn't know, one of the server rules is that we're not supposed to advertise games or ask to join a game outside the dedicated channels.

[tawny vessel]

Oh I'm sorry. I was in a rush

[hot marlin]

It's a bit annoying, but otherwise I think the other channels would just be crowded and unusable.

[inner silo]

Is the pugilist class kind of like a monk but a bit different?

[limber trail]

Vaguely. It’s a barbarian / monk hybrid. However, worth knowing, pugilist is a third party class. Not every game will allow it (indeed, many won’t).

[inner silo]

Alrighty thanks for explaining

[tawny vessel]

What are the most important points in making a character?

[humble cairn]

The goal of making the game fun for yourself and also the rest of the group including the DM.

[tawny vessel]

In this case. I am the dm, I'm helping a few others create their characters. We followed a character sheet online but it all seemed a bit overwhelming and wanted to simplify it

[glass granite]

Stats, skills, class features

And of course backstory, but that doesn’t have to be complicated

[tawny vessel]

The backstory is where they are confused. They don't how to create a backstory that can convert into a functioning dnd character at level 1

[humble cairn]

Generally I recommend people make their back story three sentences: 1) What are your origins? 2) What shaped your history? 3) Why do you adventure? Level 1 characters also should be very street level and have the seeds for potential coolness rather than be too cool already.

[tawny vessel]

I love that. Thank you

[humble cairn]

The coolest things that happen to your character should come after the backstory .. in actual play.

[glass granite]

To give an example…

Reuben Katz was born at a young age and grew up as an apprentice of a chef for the temple of Hestia. A devout and naive lad, his illusion of life was broken when he first came to the battlefield. Traumatised and afraid, he found solace in the comfort his food was able to provide to the suffering soldiers, evoking memories and numbing the pain with nostalgic relief. This experience inspired him to travel across the world, helping the needy, and providing some weary travelers with a warm and hearty meal. All in the name of Hestia.

Three sentence version is:

[still plover]

-# Aren't we all born at a young age? 😛

[crisp totem]

I disconnected el cinco before turning it off…

[glass granite]

Reuben Katz was a cook for the temple of Hestia. He was inspired in his faith and duties after tending to the wounded in the battlefield. Now, he travels to help the weary, weak or wounded in the name of Hestia.

[burnt valley]

what would an ideal magocracy be like?

[still plover]

Heh. Ideal for whom?

[burnt valley]

Karsus, Telamont Tanthul, im trying to find some examples

[tawny vessel]

Is there anywhere good to find 1 player to play dnd rn? I made a post on #find-a-game but people there are usually looking for a specific time. Not rn.

[real thunder]

Adding to what the other person said
While they have seeds for potential most lvl 1 characters are quite a bit better than the average person at fighting and stuff like that (they definitely can't fight a dragon but can probably beat some random low level enemy most normal ppl can't fight)

[wooden patio]

What stat would you use for a willpower saving throw? For context, one of my players will have had their soul "merged" with the sould of an ancient hero turned villain. The player is usally in control but when the "hero" gets enraged, he will try to take control over the body, but each time he does so, and every turn while he's in control, the player will make a willpower saving throw to regain control. What stat would that be?

[glass granite]

Charisma in this case

[burnt valley]

didn't 4e have fortitude and willpower stuff?

[glass granite]

It’s fighting to regain or maintain your will of self

[wooden patio]

Alright, thanks!

[jovial badger]

more questions about nick and dual wielder

[glass granite]

Ask away

[jovial badger]

does it fully require the dual wielder feat if you are using a shortsword (vex) and scimitar (nick)

both light weapons, so should be able to use both normally?

[glass granite]

To attack with your bonus action on top of Nick? Yes

With both Nick and dual wielder you can
Attack, Nick attack, dual wielder attack

[jovial badger]

but could i shortsword, nick scimitar and have BA free?

[glass granite]

Yes

[jovial badger]

and the ba is used for the dual wielder scimitar

[glass granite]

Yes again

[jovial badger]

and this can be done without the feat

[humble cairn]

"How does X rule work?" is generally #dnd-rules channel stuff. But to answer, you don't need the Feat to dual wield Light weapons.

[jovial badger]

ohhhh shoot ive been thinking you do need it

[humble cairn]

Yes, the Dual Wielder Feat does nothing to free up your BA. It's the Nick Mastery that does that.

[jovial badger]

ohhh thank you

[humble cairn]

No. The Light property is something that anyone can use, even without Nick Mastery or the Dual Wielder Feat. Those things just make it better.

The rules are available to read for free and answer many questions: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#Light

[jovial badger]

is it worth sacrificing the dual wielder feat for the BA attack for defensive duelist? +2 to ac basically?

[glass granite]

Do you have another use for your bonus action?

[humble cairn]

Those are two different Feats for two different purposes. They don't do the same thing at all.

[jovial badger]

second wind or smth

[glass granite]

Eh, then it’s as Ophid said, they’re really different. Choose whichever you want depending on what you want

[humble cairn]

And Defensive Duelist doesn't stay +2, it goes up with your Proficiency Bonus.

[jovial badger]

alr alr ty

[glass granite]

Personally I like dual wielder

More attacks = more math rock = me happy

[humble cairn]

It's a good time to be a dual wielder.

They really did make it much more easy and effective in 2024.

Anyone who has abilities to add damage to each attack really benefits from dual wielding.

[jovial badger]

more dice to roll 😄

[glass granite]

I especially like dual wielding with rangers

[lost ice]

I really hope (prob won't happen) we'll get a new feat that mimics the old dual wielder. I miss 2 longswords and +1AC

[clever forum]

Are there any groups with any open spots that use d&d beyond?

[vale sage]

#looking-for-players

Thats ^ what you want.

[wide pumice]

Yeah, dual wielding definitely got a glow up. Making it easier to use without eating up your whole action economy was a smart move.

[wide pumice]

Looking for a players or a campaign?

[raw sierra]

quick question friends
how would you hit an etheral being?
does radiant damage hurt them?

[hot gate]

Depends on the being. Something on the ethereal plane couldn't be hit at all unless you're also on that plane.

But if it's something like a ghost, most damage should work, somewhat dependant on if you play the 2014 or 2024 version of 5e.

[raw sierra]

can the being in the ethereal plane hit a person in the normal plane?

[hot gate]

Not usually, no

[wide pumice]

Usually, yeah radiant damage is one of the safer bets against something ethereal. In most systems, ethereal creatures are harder to hit with normal physical attacks unless the weapon is magical or specifically says it can affect them.

[tame kelp]

The spell called sleep in 2014 is totally different from 2024 sleep?

[limber trail]

in 2024 you might struggle in general with physical attacks - a lot of 2024 creatures who in 2014 had immunity to nonmagical bps, are now resistant to all bps instead

[limber trail]

it is - it achieves the same general goal but in a different way

i think it's a lot more elegant & easy to use personally

[real thunder]

There are a bunch of random things like that in the switch to 2024

[limber trail]

(plus stronger. your average CR 4 creature has about 60-90hp. You would need a 9th level sleep spell to get even one of them asleep.)

it also works a lot easier design wise. Old sleep is really awkward to cast without just telling players how many hitpoints a particular creature is.

[humble cairn]

It's not random but there were changes all over the place, even in small details.

[wide pumice]

Yeah, spells like that can change a lot over time. Between editions or rule updates, things like duration, area of effect and even what counts as low hit points can get tweaked.

[severe rampart]

how's everyone doing this fine evening?

[vale sage]

I am having a good Morning, here in the prime timeline.

[honest hazel]

Im playing instead of dming for the first time in 3 years

[tardy bronze]

Niceee

[severe rampart]

Nice! Oneshot or Campaign?

[honest hazel]

Campaign, partially homebrew mostly 5e

Im playing a cleric and warlock who has dedicated their whole life to their patron and had been alive for around 1500 years but was mummified mistakenly for most of that time as my character cant die from age

[severe rampart]

the DM always makes an insanely good character when it's their turn to play

[honest hazel]

Yep 😄

My patron is the god of diseases and i have been alive for so long ive contracted an ancient virus. My main abilities are poison and sickness based. My patron doesnt allow me to die from disease so im stuck in a constant state of overwhelming sickness

[severe rampart]

Do you look like the fly monster from... "The fly"?

[honest hazel]

Lemme look that up to see

No

[severe rampart]

so you look like a regular member of your species?

[honest hazel]

Yeah, im a goliath that was born half human and tiefling that inherited none of the traits visibly from tieflings so i kinda just look human

[severe rampart]

Half Human, Half Tiefling... but you're a goliath?

[honest hazel]

If you want a reference my character is based off "the plague" from dead by daylight

[severe rampart]

yk what that makes sense

[honest hazel]

Yeah. So basically my dads a goliath my mothers a human and tieflings arent born and rather created through pacts due to my dms homebrew

Human traits visually but the perks of goliath and tiefling

[severe rampart]

woahh that's actually really cool

[cobalt owl]

Reminds me of that zachspeaksgiant short

[fiery lion]

can someone give me a website similar to dnd beyond or something

[buoyant oar]

Similar in what way?

[fiery lion]

in terms in building a character

[buoyant oar]

Similar in the way where it has all of the content for free?

Then no, because that is piracy and is not supported here.

If something that is like it but different, I like Demiplane

Well you do have to do a lot more hand keying of stuff on demiplane because it doesn't have everything supported yet. Mostly just SRD stuff

[fiery lion]

idk why the implemented the 18+ stuff it so stupid

[buoyant oar]

18 plus stuff?

[fiery lion]

the uk thing

[glad arch]

dnd beyond needs age verification? 💀

[fiery lion]

yes it stupid

[buoyant oar]

This was done to comply with legal standards. The company didn't do it just because they wanted to.

[tardy bronze]

What adult stuff is on DND beyond huh

[fiery lion]

yah but dnd beyond? really? like im sure theirs other websites that are much worse than dnd. I cant imagine what could be the issue with it

[glad arch]

its the uk new internet laws, probably best not to discuss it too much in here

[severe rampart]

nothing, the UK passed a law that prohibits minors from social media such as twitter, facebook, etc. Which got snowballed into most of the internet things, including DnD beyond

[tardy bronze]

With forced ID verif

[severe rampart]

that's the most I can say without it getting off topic

[fiery lion]

tiktok, instagram seems fine

[buoyant oar]

And it's not just UK law. Laws are changing around the globe and when that is happening and you are an international company. You tend to comply with the strictest lawset to make sure that you're covered on all sides.

[severe rampart]

Now let's change topics before we go into very non-dnd topics

[buoyant oar]

But as for alternative to D&D Beyond, I do recommend Demiplane.

[fiery lion]

um ok is having an AC of 19 at lvl 11 too much

[glad arch]

not at all

[fiery lion]

even if im a cleric

[glad arch]

you can have AC 19 at level 1

[glad arch]

clerics have good armor, thats fine

[fiery lion]

does having a warforge as a cleric make sense?

[glad arch]

plate armor + shield is 20 AC and thats doable at like level 4 (depending on dm)

[glad arch]

i dont see why a warforged cant worship a god

[fiery lion]

i made my character personality like Hk-47

honestly i havent been able to do too much role play so far

[rough basalt]

DnD is pretty adult when it comes down to it.
Even in its current state.

[buoyant oar]

Yeah.

My last open campaign invite was 18+. Going forward it's 21+ mainly because just the themes that I explore

[rough basalt]

Official dnd world's have mature themes as well

Like FR may not be Athas but plenty of screwed up crap happens there too

[eager marsh]

Any race and class combination can exist and work and having ac 19 at level 11 is arguably low end if you’re actually building into it with magic items

[rough basalt]

Ye at level 11, enemies probably have double digit hit bonus's

AC starts its descent into being a suggestion mid t2 or so if you're not doing ways to keep increasing it.

[glad arch]

i love high AC characters

[eager marsh]

You either get magic armor or play a Bladesinger otherwise enemies start hitting you most of the time

[severe rampart]

The ever humble Magic Missile:

[rough basalt]

AC value decreases and con mod and health value increases

[glad arch]

the humble shield spell

[eager marsh]

The under appreciated Brooch of Shielding

[rough basalt]

The forbidden "I'm not taking that damage dm" strat where you say that and stare directly at them until they crumble beneath your power

[glad arch]

roll intimidation against the dm

[eager marsh]

Sounds like a weak DM. I’d just say counterspell to the shield from the assistance Mage and laugh

[glad arch]

gets another teammate to counterspell the counterspell

[rough basalt]

I'm an advocate for every fight having a spellcaster

[eager marsh]

Speaking of not taking damage though

My hot take is that 2024 monsters having so many effect riders on hit should have a clause that the rider doesn’t apply if you reduce the damage of the attack to Zero. Sincerely, a monk that has suffered too much bullshit

[rough basalt]

If you're a Monk, why did you get hit? Sounds like someone isn't raising their stats /j

[fresh rampart]

Hello

[eager marsh]

Me with every stat increase having been to my stats

Monk AC caps at 20 at level 16 without lucky rolled stats sorry

I miss when unarmored defense for monk and barbarian had free bonuses at certain levels to actually make it useful after tier 1 vs armor

[rough basalt]

Aren't using the most important AC trick of all

"Sorry DM" moves his dice to a 1 "but I'm not getting hit"

[eager marsh]

Dm screen.

[glad arch]

the best way to not get hit is to not be in the fight

[rough basalt]

Flurry of blows the dm screen then action fudge the dice

[eager marsh]

No no my Red Dragonborn monk (ascendant dragon) with anger issues absolutely wants to be in the fight I promise you

[severe rampart]

gotta be a halfling

[glad arch]

pull a classic "look over there" then reach over the dm screen

[eager marsh]

I stayed up and didn’t get bloodied during the fight with a blue deacolich and just kept boxing his ass while the other half of the party got downed or rendered useless (life cleric wasn’t allowed to heal near it)

So he was very much relatively ok. But getting poisoned every other combat despite reducing and even reflecting an attack back at the monster because the rider says ‘on hit’ is still obnoxious

[glad arch]

doesnt fix the rules but i feel like this would be a reasonable homebrew to discuss with the dm

[rough basalt]

I like the riders.
Players had it too easy for too long, it's the time of reckoning

[eager marsh]

The riders are fine I just think they shouldn’t apply if I deflect to Zero since I’m narratively denying the hit even connects because that’s what allowed to return fire option

[rough basalt]

I agree with that

[eager marsh]

We’re deep enough in that I’m fine keeping it as such but I’ve said that when I dm next I would say reduce to zero blocks riders. It makes sense

[rough basalt]

Think ima adopt that.

It does make sense

[eager marsh]

Also it was funny deflecting an attack back at the dragon and they were immune to it too

[burnt valley]

Players then circle casts Find Greater Table cuz the DM is cheating

[eager marsh]

That’s the player cheating actually

[burnt valley]

High op players lets goooo

[burnt valley]

Nah not really since you should have it already at Lvl 4 or 5

[real thunder]

I was going 2 type a message saying "isn't that just the one wizard subclass" but it sent 2 identical messages and when I deleted one it deleted both
Discord is weird sometimes

[sleek cloud]

Good ol divination wizards

[reef copper]

Thats just because your are an echo knight

[restive ridge]

When do yall start playing dnd

[fast latch]

Hi guys

What to talk about uhhhh

[humble cairn]

Currently my regular game is on Mondays at 4am.

[fast latch]

Hi Ophid

It’s WHEN?

[gusty stone]

Do you guys think a character with a high constitution would handle lack of sleep better than others?

[humble cairn]

It used to be Sundays at around 3pm for me, then I moved to the literal other side of the globe.

[fast latch]

Yes, that’s how saves against Exhaustion work from lack of sleep

[fast latch]

From where to where?

[knotty pasture]

In theory sure but I think lack of sleep is tied to exhaustion which isn't stat based

[humble cairn]

Chicago to Bangkok.

[fast latch]

That’s in China, right?

[gusty stone]

Ah okay sweet. I never knew how that would work. Thank you

[humble cairn]

No, Thailand.

[fast latch]

Whoops

[knotty pasture]

I guess constitution does kind of have an effect against exhaustion

At 4 levels of exhaustion your max hp is halved

[serene jolt]

You roll each time that you risk an exhaustion point, and that is tied to your constitution.

[severe rampart]

when the schedule bbeg allows me

[stoic haven]

I wonder how the Pugilist class would do in Icewind Dale

which is heavy on Exhaustion

[severe rampart]

a streetfighter... in Icewind Dale?

hmm

[tall forge]

Pugilist?

[severe rampart]

Newest class released

[tall forge]

Ooo im so interested

[stoic haven]

Benjamin Huffman's class

[severe rampart]

Third Party iirc?

[tall forge]

Aw

[stoic haven]

Yea, I think it is considered Third Party now that it is officially published

But it's great, been looking at Benjamin Huffman's stuff for a while now before the update to his Pugilist class

[tall forge]

Ill look into it bc punching has always been my favorite trope in combat

[stoic haven]

but TLDR, Pugilist is akin to monk as Barbarian is to Fighter, and can regain features prior to long rests by gaining exhaustion instead

But one of the features allows you to ignore downsides of exhaustion for a minute I believe

[severe rampart]

I never really got that "1 minute" thing in DnD, how long is it in turns usually?

[hidden spindle]

Good thing a Necromancer Wizard can still keep its Hit Point Maximum at tip top shape at Exhaustion 4

[severe rampart]

I've been meaning to play a necromancer wizard, too bad all of the ways to get its spell components are either evil or immoral

[violet cave]

one turn is 6 seconds, so 10 turns is 60 seconds or 1 minute

[knotty pasture]

Bit sus, just sayin

[buoyant oar]

One of the interesting things I have seen with pugilist and the Blood Hunter is that more so than the other third party classes. They have garnered sense of new players not knowing if they are official or not.

Could just be the amount of Social Media Advertising that went into both compared to the gun slinger and illrigger.

As well as Monster Hunter, Captain, Messenger, Champion, Scholar, Treasure Hunter, and Warden classes

[hoary totem]

there's a GUN class?

Oh my brother is going to love this 💀

[buoyant oar]

It is a third party class.

[uncut zenith]

Gunslinger is a third-party Fighter subclass made by CR. It’s not particularly good imo

[buoyant oar]

There is also the full class on ddb

[uncut zenith]

I think there’s a full class too made by… I wanna say Mage Hand Press?

[buoyant oar]

Valda’s Spire of Secrets

[sour cave]

Fellas. Do you think powerful build creatures can use regular mounts like race horses or should they be using war horses or drafts instead

I’ve seen videos of horses TRYING to haul very big people and it doesn’t really look that fun for the horse

[buoyant oar]

What is the carrying / dragging capacity of the mount

Is that more than the weight of the PC with Gear?

Then it works.

[sour cave]

If you use the regular players carrying capacity math it’s 480 for a riding horse

[fast latch]

Depends on carrying capacity

Say a Goliath Fighter in Full Plate weighs 385 in sheer muscles plus 60 pounds of armor

That’s 445

[buoyant oar]

Yeah, this is something that does not have to be a vibes-based decision whatsoever. The math is there

[fast latch]

Any mount with less than 445 pounds of Carry Capacity wouldn’t carry Mr. Goliath

Any mount with more than that would

[sour cave]

That horse is leaving some heavy treads but by god it’s hauling

[rough basalt]

Rounds are 6 seconds so 10 rounds

[fast latch]

I thought a Turn was 6 seconds and a Round was 1 minute

[jovial shadow]

Hypothetically anyway, since the game doesn't give creatures weights. I think that they may have at one point, but now it's just a DM's call

[rough basalt]

No, a round is 6 seconds.

[fast latch]

Hi Sora

[rough basalt]

Turns happen within the same 6 seconds of a round.

[fast latch]

Well what is a minute called?

[violet cave]

turns take place simultaneously within a round, which is 6 seconds

[rough basalt]

10 rounds

[fast latch]

Is there a special name for it?

[violet cave]

a minute

[north hawk]

No. There's no use case for it where a special name would matter.

Just make sure you know when a spell says 1 minute to cast it should be done out of combat.

[jovial shadow]

They were asking how many turns are in a round. For any creature they can make 10 turns each in one minute

[fast latch]

That’s boring

[rough basalt]

There's just no reason for one

[glad arch]

Theres also no special name for 5 rounds, no reason 10 shpuld be different

[rough basalt]

As 9/10 combats are resolved within 10 rounds.

Usually within 5

[violet cave]

well that's what it is
if one round is 6 seconds, then logically 10 rounds is 1 minute, it's just described as a minute for durations of spells and effects

[jovial shadow]

Not anymore. Back in AD&D it was categorized as segements, rounds and turns. A Segmenat was 6 seconds. A Round was 1 minute. A Turn was 10 minutes.

[potent vector]

Y'all what is Horizon Walker supposed to be?
Is it literally just Oath of the Watcher but Ranger???
(My Ranger Rework finally got to it)

[rough basalt]

Pretty much

[glad arch]

You can technically

[fast latch]

What the hell kind of combats are you running that last Ten Minutes?!

[glad arch]

Its a wildly inefficient use of your action economy though

[jovial shadow]

The combat round was one minute back then vs six seconds today

[glad arch]

10 round combat is long but for an epic boss fight sounds fair

[rough basalt]

Usually encounters last up to 5 rounds ime

[limber trail]

(Or by taking the magic action ten turns in a row)

[rough basalt]

It depends on whether players made competent characters, and rolling better

[rough basalt]

Shouldn't do this tho unless some once in a lifetime occasion as all it takes is one hit and a failed conc check and all that's gone.

[harsh comet]

Hello is it possible that someone is intrested getting into a dnd campaign it’s long and we need one more person for the game/session/campign

[limber trail]

High level dnd just gets slow I had a three round combat that took a good hour and a half of session time, five rounds is the upper limit for sure

[rough basalt]

I've played with a lot of trolls tbh

And yeah I've been in high level combats lasted several sessions

[limber trail]

I’ve got exactly four enemies on the session roster this week. I expect it will be a full session of combat

[rough basalt]

For high level you really need decisive players

[limber trail]

(Level 16 fight vs BBEG)

[potent vector]

What's the Campaign Premise?

[rough basalt]

You can't have "um ah. Um ah! Um ahhhhh!" For 30 minutes players

[serene jolt]

Even as an extremely decisive person, I struggled a little with a lebel 20 monk.

I practiced writing down my entire turn on a piece of paper before my turn started.

[undone rain]

I believe our party will face the BBEG soon

[limber trail]

I’ve found my martials to be relatively simple even into high levels

[severe rampart]

you guys don't plan your attacks while the others are attacking?

[rough basalt]

I'm talking people who take 30 minutes for a level 2 rogue but they're on a level 14 Wizard. So it's more 90 to 120 minutes

[serene jolt]

I do, but sometimes plans change. It depends on what you're playing.

[limber trail]

I’ve played with folks who don’t. It bothers me.

[serene jolt]

If I was playing a spellcaster at high level, I'd be struggling hardcore.

[severe rampart]

Doesn't happen when you're a rogue, heh

[rough basalt]

When I started dnd and realized how hefty high level could be my desire to not waste others time comes in handy

[severe rampart]

then there's the warlock... (Eldritch Blast)

[rough basalt]

Taking time for turns is fine within reason but at some point the DM needs to put their foot down.

[serene jolt]

I'm the kind of person who does plan their attacks ahead of time but I still feel like a level 20 spellcaster would be a tough one. I'd have a main plan, backup plan, and backup to backup plan every turn 🤣

[fast latch]

Question

What’s the most broken 5e party you can make, with 4 characters, no Wish, and no repeating classes?

All official third-party content (Grim Hollow, Critical Role, Illrigger, Pugilist, etc) is allowed

[undone rain]

I plan my attacks! Its called smite, then smite again and again and again amd again

[rough basalt]

I always have a turn timer module in foundry downloaded to be used in case of emergency

[severe rampart]

Unleashing Jacob's ladder on foes

[rough basalt]

Third party isn't official and in this case it's gonna be very messy

As 3rd party has a tendency to be more overpowered or underpowered than official content

[fast latch]

Anything on DnDBeyond that you have to pay money for is counted as third party here

[rough basalt]

Yeah but it's not official, it's still third party

It's just sponsored

[fast latch]

Let me think about this

[severe rampart]

4 Optimized Sorlocks.

[fast latch]

Yeah that’s with repeating classes allowed though

[rough basalt]

Naturally you'd need a Pugilist as it's stronger than official martials

[burnt valley]

2024?

[fast latch]

Either

[fast latch]

What subclass?

The dog one, the eldritch one, something else?

[rough basalt]

Any of them, the base class is better

[severe rampart]

Oh no repeating classes... probably
Sorlock
Bard + Something
Gloomstalker/Wizard/Rogue Multiclass
Paladin + Something

[rough basalt]

Illrigger is better than Paladin so you'd take that too

[steady jewel]

I'm curious

[severe rampart]

I'm unfamiliar with the pugilist class as of now

[rough basalt]

Basically two or three martials in one and better than them

[steady jewel]

Do y'all hold online DnD campaigns? It's cuz I've always wanted to play DnD but never found people who are into it in Mexico

[burnt valley]

1 Artificer/Chronurgy X, 1 Druid/Undead Warlock X, Land Druid X, Eloquence Bard X

[fast latch]

Why Druid plus Undead Warlock?

[burnt valley]

Fullcasters fulfill all roles but better

[rough basalt]

Third party just has overpowered tendencies that make it hard to compare them with official when it comes to power.

[burnt valley]

Armour dipping + goodberry

[fast latch]

Does Illrigger have healing though?

[fast latch]

Good point

[burnt valley]

Btw Undead Warlock has Death Ward and Form of Dread

[rough basalt]

I think it has healing through blood magic

[burnt valley]

Dont forget the fact that the entire party has True Polymorph with one of them having Shapechange

So it snowballs to infinite power at Lvl 17

[rough basalt]

Yeah Illrigger has healing

[burnt valley]

They also get all the really good control spells + free flying mount at Lvl 1 or 2

[rough basalt]

Jeez I forgot how crazy the baseclass of it is

It's basically got a subclass built into the main class and a subclass on top of it

[severe rampart]

optimizers scare me

[burnt valley]

You could boost this with eberron dragonmarks but im just trying to cram fullcasters in lmao

[rough basalt]

But yeah third party goes pretty insane in good and bad ways

Like Moon Domain Cleric can concentrate on two spells from their domain list and they got like Greater Invis, Moonbeam, Faerie Fire, and Hypnotic Pattern

[burnt valley]

Imagine casting Sickening Radiance on them while they are at Exhaustion 5

[knotty pasture]

Wizard Warlock Cleric Sorc

[rough basalt]

Their blessing of the full moon goes insane for martials, especially ranged ones

[fast latch]

I’m thinking
The classic Moon Druid plus Bear Totem Barbarian
The broken Pure Twilight Cleric
The reality-warping 1 Artificer + 19 Chronurgy Wizard
And the perfect face Eloquence Bard

[rough basalt]

Advantage on all attacks as long as an ally is within 5ft of whoever they're attacking

[crystal latch]

This seems pretty good yeah

[burnt valley]

Its in the context of 2024 so idk for 2014 but i feel like it could be better

[crystal latch]

For 2014 I'd probably go

• Peace Cleric 1/Undead Warlock X/Divine Soul Sorc 1
• Artificer 1/Chronurgy Wizard X

For the first two and then I'd mald over not being able to fit in a second EBARB, the other two slots would probably be druid and bard though

This would be pain ngl, only one EBARB and one Ray of Frost feels practically like playing half a party on most turns

Might be worth dropping the peace1 and going Moderately Armored CL on undeadlock just to move the cleric dip to druid and get lifeberry

Shepherd or wildfire druid and lore bard

[limber trail]

Level 1???

[valid geyser]

Lvl 1?

I’m assuming typo for like some level in the teens

[hidden spindle]

Optimize for RP?

[severe rampart]

Hah, you get me brother!

[burnt valley]

who says you can't do both?

[prime pewter]

Isn't RP optimization just having fun in character?

[worn lagoon]

No, because having fun isn't something you can optimize

Those words don't even belong in the same sentence

[severe rampart]

Evren our first party was just flavor optimized

[worn lagoon]

Your first party was a circus

[severe rampart]

you saw my character, HE was optimized for flavor

[worn lagoon]

You get the point, you were messing around

[severe rampart]

... I guess it's kind of fun doing 96 Damage per round instead of 8 DPR

[prime pewter]

Im with you, as someone who enjoys both rp and optimization.

[worn lagoon]

How do you know when you've maximised fun?

[severe rampart]

When you're having fun

[worn lagoon]

Fun is subjective, so

[karmic heath]

when you get abbs from laughter

[severe rampart]

"Tarkus, let's kill this kobold."

[worn lagoon]

That's still immeasurable

[prime pewter]

I think divination wizard is a great example of what can be achieved when they are balanced well

[fast latch]

When you have a build so funny that you audibly laugh in every session due to the shenanigans you pull off

[serene jolt]

Every wizard I've played has been incredibly boring. Is there a subclass that is actually pretty fun or are they pretty much all the same? (I tried Chronoturgy Wizard and Evocation Wizard).

[worn lagoon]

Why do wizards bore you?

[severe rampart]

play a bard

[prime pewter]

Divination! I like flavoring it as a Witch

[serene jolt]

I've always felt like everyone is doing all these cool features and I don't feel like my features really stand out enough. I feel like, ironically, I fall behind. Despite being a wizard.

[serene jolt]

I've tried bard once but it was when I first started. I've been tempted to try my hand at bard again. Are there a specific few you recommend?

[worn lagoon]

Sometimes you need to throw the towel and accept it's not a fit for you

[serene jolt]

I always try to give every class a shot. But I have considered Wizard is just not my style.

[severe rampart]

Lore Bard if you want those sweet sweet early magical secrets

[severe rampart]

hey, me too! so far imo, artificers aren't really for me

[knotty pasture]

Try Bladesinger Wizard, its Wizard with self defense

[burnt valley]

(Do not go into melee despite what others tell you)

[serene jolt]

I do currently have a Bladesinger but it's in a very slow campaign (like 1 session per 2-3 months). I'll see if I like that.

[prime pewter]

Evocation is kinda like the blugeoning damage of wizards. Maybe thats why? (So I've heard)

[harsh comet]

Hey again just typing here real fast, does anyone wanna join the campaign I can give info on what is it around and I need 1 more player so we can be good it’s a long term campaign and I wanna start it tbh so if anyone wants to join feel free dm or reply

[serene jolt]

I'll look at Lore Bard, thanks!

[burnt valley]

Creatures deal more damage in melee than in ranged

[worn lagoon]

bladesinger (wizard holding a sword from a safe distance away

i don't think i can express appropriately how much bladesinger disappoints me with the way it plays out

[burnt valley]

The biggest downside is that it encourages you to go m*lee

Ppl telling u otherwise is because the DM was being nice

[fading summit]

How can i kill tank when im barbarian? most of my attacks have to be roll 18+ to even hit him

[real thunder]

Try Bladesinger or scribes

[fading summit]

im going path of zealot and im fallen angel

[fast latch]

Yeah, the meta thing to do is just stay at range even while in Bladesong

[burnt valley]

Ranged and control is king

[real thunder]

Apparently alot of bards kinda feel the same because of the way subclass features are given in the class

[burnt valley]

Anything else is a force divider

[real thunder]

Yeah but the meta thing to do is almost always to stay at range so it's not realy a suprise

[burnt valley]

Tips: Don't even bother healing m*lee martials, it's a waste of your slots and should be spending it on your caster allies instead

Heal them for 20, they proceed to take 80 more

[serene jolt]

I was considering scribes as well because it's a 'survivalist' campaign in an apocalypse setting and Scribes seem to be pretty self sufficient.

For a wizard anyways

[blissful ibex]

Focus on killing the things injuring your martials; heal after

Things generally don't injure you further once they're dead

[karmic heath]

fireball

[serene jolt]

But I think Lore Bard looks pretty fun. I might try that instead. I'll have access to wizard stuff by level 6.

[fast latch]

I love Bards

I’ve played two DMPCs and like five NPCs that are Bards

[serene jolt]

I'll probably play my bard almost like a wizard to get that wizardly feel but with inspiration.

[burnt valley]

You should be able to last longer once you manage to learn to manage your resources, typically you'd spend like 1 or potentially none for every 2 moderate encounters

[serene jolt]

I'm thinking of an art form that would fit a "wizardly" bard xD

[fast latch]

If your DM allows it, be a Druid with Goodberry

[fast latch]

Poetry?

[blissful ibex]

Circle of Dreams Druid is kinda nice for that sort of hting
they get speudo tiny hut

[serene jolt]

Poetry... yeah that sounds fun! (And really annoying for the rest of my party rofl)

But if I do lore bard... I can get some druidy spells.

So I can take goodberry at level 6 if I wanna

[blissful ibex]

there's better spells to use that on though >.>
just go MI: Druid for it and elementalism

[fast latch]

Can you come up with a poem right here as a test (And because it’s funny)?

[hard plover]

worst part of dnd is picking what character to play in a campaign

[spring light]

not finding the right table?

[hard plover]

so much options

[hard plover]

no like i have a lot of ideas on what to play and i just cant pick

[serene jolt]

Words are hard to think of on the spot.
But I suppose I'll give it a shot.

[spring light]

do you have an appropriate table for all of those characters?

[serene jolt]

Yeah that's probably a good plan.

[hard plover]

yeah

[spring light]

maybe talking with your table about your ideas, and seeing if there's some kind of synergy?

[blissful ibex]

Grab create bonfire for your second cantrip for style points c:

[fast latch]

You did it!

[fast latch]

Just pick whatever your party is missing

[spring light]

triple up on barbarian

[worn lagoon]

One of the backgrounds give this feat for free btw Deaddok

[fast latch]

Hermit?

[blissful ibex]

Guide, Specifically
which is what I mean when I say 'go x origin feat'

[worn lagoon]

think so

[limber trail]

Guide

[worn lagoon]

if i were to make a survival-heavy campaign and someone brought create food and water or goodberry i'd actually throw a chair at them personally

but if it's allowed that's good

[blissful ibex]

This is when you hold a session 0 and say you're banning those spells

[sleek cloud]

Give us an attack roll with advantage

[crystal latch]

Survival doesn't really work well in 5e in general

[worn lagoon]

mhm

[burnt valley]

Martials get mogged even harder

[serene jolt]

When I was first talking about my character, I was going to have a cleric with create food and water. I brought it up to the dm and he said it's a good idea.

So I don't think he minds

[crystal latch]

Struggling to manage food and water quickly becomes unserious as the leveling system quickly pushes you from "much better than the average guy" to "serious threat to demigods"

[worn lagoon]

then he doesnt care for scarcity which is fine

[blissful ibex]

The trick is you run an normal campaign; actually bother to use the Exploration pillar and track rations and water use, and if the plan is to use spells to cover those needs, actually have them burn those spell slots

also roll for weather every day

[crystal latch]

It's kind of like ammunition tracking at levels when you're expected to loot the economy of a small country from a single dungeon going off random tables

[spring light]

you might be level 15, but you ran out of water and ammo. and died in the dungeon.

[blissful ibex]

rations and especially water are heavy and bulky

[burnt valley]

if this happens to the party at that level, its a skill issue

there's no saying it other way

[blissful ibex]

an arrow is .05 lbs
a gallon of water is 5lbs

[crystal latch]

Dungeon crawls also don't last long enough in this system that you'll worry about second breakfast, never mind dying of starvation/thirst

[blissful ibex]

which is why you make them trek two weeks through the wilderness to get to the ruins/dungeon and back

[potent vector]

Good berry exists and we're worried bout ration weight, vro . .

[crystal latch]

A two-week journey probably gets solved in under a week by a smart PC too

[blissful ibex]

DM can ban it

[spring light]

why ban goodberry?

[potent vector]

Aaaaaaand there's the DM fiat that makes all discourse irrelevant

[spring light]

just don't let them find the material components in the dungeon 😉

[blissful ibex]

it's comonly done in survival/exploration focued campaigns

[crystal latch]

Goodberry material components are optional

[spring light]

an option we can choose to use

[crystal latch]

They have no GP value

[blissful ibex]

doesn't because this is specifically in the context of a survival campaign in which those spells are generally banned

and even outside of it, its still eating spell slots every day

[potent vector]

Especially here is why the fiat makes the talk useless. There are more interesting ways to make survival important when magic exists

[spring light]

that's great. if i were running a survival focused campaign, i'd still require a material component for goodberry.
I'd probably let it be just about any form of food though

[blissful ibex]

especially if you run sanctuary LR or gritty realism

[potent vector]

The humble Creation Bard:

[crystal latch]

Prestidigitation too

[burnt valley]

Conj Wizard lmaooo

[crystal latch]

Prestidigitation can create trinkets, there are food items on several trinket tables

[potent vector]

Truuu

[fast latch]

Oh hi DaHo

[spring light]

IF you guys have that kind of synergy, i love it and want to encourage it.

[burnt valley]

if you want a survivalist game, go play Call of Cthulhu instead of shoving "muh realism" into 5e cuz spellcasters are broken

[potent vector]

Or at the very least upscale it to be magical in nature, like making water magically freeze unless you cast Shape Water to keep it liquid for example.

Make it a puzzle and not a chore

[spring light]

d&d is not really great for realistic survival.

[blissful ibex]

it's not but sometimes you just want to play survival in dnd and there are rules for survival in dnd so why not

[crystal latch]

The extent to which survival can really work in 5e is the possibility of needing rations/water/whatever influencing one or two picks from your class spell list, which happen to be really strong spells that you were taking anyway - i.e. basically not at all

[spring light]

yeah. But if someone's going after a gritty realistic survival game? look elsewhere. but if someone wants to add a bit of light survival? sure.

[blissful ibex]

especially when all it takes is banning a few spells that barely ever see use anyway (outside of goodberry, it sees use because it's just a decent spell in general)

[spring light]

goodberry such a clutch spell

[lyric viper]

This feels a bit counterproductive as advice. While there certainly are systems that can do survival gameplay better, when asking for advice on how to do it in D&D it's not helpful to say 'just go play those ones'.

Better to frame it as 'here's how some other systems do it, and how you could try and make some aspects work in D&D, but here's the barriers'.

Also, not being reductive.

[blissful ibex]

It's extra nice on my druidlock because she can burn her remaining pact slots on a SR to use it

[crystal latch]

Goodberry is one of the defining tools of the druid and ranger spell lists
If it's a druid and doesn't have Goodberry, it's a fraction of a druid

[lyric viper]

I did play a short survival-ish oneshot and honestly it was ironically the outlander and ranger features that seemed to skew things more than spells.

[hidden spindle]

For survival/exploration, don't waive: food, water, ammunition, carry capacity, weather, altitude, temperature

[potent vector]

It's like wanting to run a high magic game with powerful magic Item Crafting, and so you ban Artificier so it's not easy to get them 😭

[blissful ibex]

because ranger is basically designed around being incredibly good at the Exploration Pillar

it's just it barely ever gets run over the course of a standard campaign, so ranger is always derided as being the 'worst' class

[hidden spindle]

I don't recall any contract stating so, just an unfair bias

Like Cleric = heals

[crystal latch]

Iirc Tomb of Annihilation tries to be a somewhat survival-heavy module but it's basically just a cool if a bit easy dungeon crawl

[blissful ibex]

they get expertise, extra skills, extra speed, a climb and swim speed, and are a dex/wis focused class
not to mention goodberry, PWT, and other such spells

[potent vector]

So can Rogue with Druid Initiative.
But I digress . . .

[lyric viper]

In my underdark survival oneshot, I made my own custom forage tables, where higher survival rolls allowed for more rolls on the forage table. To balance for ranger and outlanders auto find food thing, they got some extra rolls on the forage table so long as their survival roll wasn't abysmal.

[blissful ibex]

Rogue is generally more Dex/Int due to how their subclasses scale, Scout rogue is 100% a thing though, but it wont have PWT and a lot of the movement options ranger gets

[crystal latch]

PwT is one of the most important party roles

[lyric viper]

In a survival focused game, For spells, material components must be tracked. Ideally avoid arcane focuses or hand-waiving with component pouches.

Honestly the components are more flavoursome and it's fun when the wizard gets excited about sand.

[blissful ibex]

pocket sand

[potent vector]

Oh, so no Focuses. Spirit Bard in shambles. . .

[proper shoal]

Anyone used the raven queen archetype for worlock

[lyric viper]

I suppose better to say 'has to have material components' and not jsut 'no arcane focuses'.

[fast latch]

I like Ranger

I played an Aarakocra Gloomstalker with a revolver and he was awesome

[crystal latch]

I tried it, RQ is a pretty unimpressive subclass but it has its merits

[blissful ibex]

I also like ranger, it's just that druid and ranger really shine in a more exploration heavy setting

[potent vector]

Oh, wait, have I shown you my current iteration of my Ranger Rework dude?

[fast latch]

No

Show me!

[wooden cedar]

Hey guys, quick question, I've never played a wizard before, so I wanted to ask what the best sub class would be for a backstory I have in mind

What's the appropriate channel for that?

[crystal latch]

I'm a big fan of ranger but I never saw it as an exploration class as much as a druid-type gish

One of the few cases where 5e really gets the gish fantasy right in that you actually want to be investing in weapon use a lot, unlike bladesinger which is basically just regular wizard with ribbon features attached

Crossbow Expert/Sharpshooter gloom stalker is one of the few weapon users that survive at the top of the 5e meta with good reason

[potent vector]

(ack, gimme an hour, class . . .)

[severe rampart]

#character-discussion

[wooden cedar]

Thank youu

[fast latch]

#character-discussion

[urban bolt]

I'm wanting to get more comfortable with vocal roleplay- i have extended experience doing back and forth text roleplay between me and one person, but those are always long, 2-6k characters each response, so it doesn't carry over to D&D all that well. It also just feels weird and awkward saying it. Anyone know a source i can use to practice? I was gonna use Character AI call function, but it's locked behind premium.

[fast latch]

Got it

[wintry spindle]

whats some of yours dnd hot takes?

[marble lion]

I hope you dont think i prefer bikinis over full plate and were just giving your 2 cents. Im on the fullplate side of things

Banning goodberry and other food creation stuff seems reasonable to me in a game where you want food scarcity

Youre obviously changing how the game works but thats fine

[undone rain]

No no i gotcha i just wanted to input my view as well

[marble lion]

But if you had to make survival work without banning spells, i guess you could make up new fantasy problems

Magic corruption stuff

[blissful ibex]

One of the DMs that ive seen said they just make it so you can still cast the spells, it just only counts as food/water for the caster

[marble lion]

Ok but what if you dont alter them

Get creative

[blissful ibex]

then put more pressure on providing fewer long rests
run sanctuary rules where long rests not in a safe area only count as short rests

[marble lion]

Poison gas through this entire valley
The only cure you figure out for now is a mushroom based medicine for which you need to forage

[blissful ibex]

Warding Wind go brrrr XD

[lyric viper]

Goodberry in previous editions required having an actual berry, so it's not too much of a shift to say that you require finding a berry first.

[marble lion]

How long does that last

[blissful ibex]

10 minutes
longer if you're on circle casting rules
then it's 1 hour and 10 minutes with an additional spell slot or 8 hours and 10 minutes with 4

[marble lion]

Then it doesnt really protect for long

[thorn quarry]

Reason I ask is because my character is a grandpa who has the ability to turn into a kraken and bc he’s supposed to fight a sea serpent like creature as a test

[winter glacier]

Yo how do i post campaigns to websites like DriveThruRpg

[lyric viper]

I can honestly say I do not know.

[blissful ibex]

otherwise there's Air Bubble which lasts 24 hours but that runs into how the DM rules it interacts with airborn poisons

[winter glacier]

that's fine im just a bit confused how to

[minor cargo]

I can help. Give me a second.

[marble lion]

If id run survival it would be a oneoff thing and id just put much effort into it

Anyone who whines about not getting foodcreation spells for a oneshot needs a talkingto for me anyway

[blissful ibex]

there's a bunch of low hanging fruit for exploration that can be incorporated into regular gameplay as well
weather being a big one

[minor cargo]

There's a whole helpdesk for DriveThruRPG and DMsGuild (they're both owned by OneBookShelf or OBS). Here's the article on setting up a title: https://help.drivethrupartners.com/hc/en-us/articles/12780799278103-Set-Up-a-New-Title-or-Edit-an-Existing-Title-Listing

There's some other stuff you should probably read over if you're new to it (such as looking at what you're allowed to upload to DriveThruRPG vs DMsGuild regarding WOTC content). But that information is again all on their helpdesk.

[winter glacier]

Thank you

[potent vector]

This. What I was saying earlier with water that magically freezes unless you shape water to keep it unfozen

Magical ecosystems have magical survival problems

If you want gritty survival, it should be a puzzle and not a chore

[tawdry sentinel]

That's basically it.

If you make it a chore I am absolutely just going to say I spend whatever single digit quantity of gold buying food, water and arrows you want each week and never think about it again.

If it's a wilderness based thing and the wilderness is part of the challenge then I'd pay slightly more attention to it, and make passive aggressive comments about how all the casters can continue spamming cantrips like it's going out of style but I'm here worrying that I'm down to 6 arrows on day 2 of our hike. 😅

[marble lion]

The only caveat you really need to keep in mind there is that not everyone has every spell

While someone will think of bringing food spells, if you require other stuff less obvious you might end up making it way too hard

I think if i ever really had to do survival id make it a level 1 party

[potent vector]

Ofc , which is why the punishments should reflect that and be more minor.

Only rly starting to deadly when they start pile up, like a survival game should be. Mitigation focus.

[blissful ibex]

Tomelock has every level 1 rutial spell and every cantrip available so long as they can get a short rest in c:

[winter glacier]

when i was trying to do it, it said my acoutn was not associated with a publisher

[minor cargo]

Oh, looks like the link on that page points to the wrong place. Instead, go to your Account and find "Enter New Community Created Title" under "My content".

[marble lion]

Every cantrip?

[blissful ibex]

yep c:
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/character-classes#PactoftheTome

[marble lion]

Huh i missed that when i was playing my first character for one session

Alright thats cool, still not all magic and still relying on someone specifically bring a tomelock

So my caveat remains but daho already gave a solid approach

[blissful ibex]

or at least burning a feat on Eldritch Adept to grab pact of the tome and changing the Spellcasting Ability to the one their class uses

but it's not a half ASI and eats a feat so somewhat unlikely

[vale sage]

Howdy Y'all!!

Hiii!! 😄

[marble lion]

Good evening holly

[potent vector]

Yeah, I will mention, if someone becomes a coverage canon for the sake of dealing with my Survival campaign, good on them, they get to shine

[marble lion]

I appreciate letting someone shine but there does need to be a limit

Letting 1person completely run the survival campaign because they brought all the spells is across that line for me

Unless i mess them up with more problems that no spells exist for

[blissful ibex]

or drop them in an anti magic zone but that's kinda a copout

[marble lion]

If you do that, youre bad dm

Instead of shutting their class down, let them know the classes youre fine with

No magic? Make them all create a nonmagic char then

[blissful ibex]

'let me just turn off your entire class because I don't want to deal wiothj you finding alternitive solutions to my puzzle'

[marble lion]

For 1 puzzle its ok

Before char creation its ok too

But dont let someone run into your knife after not telling them your expectations

[blissful ibex]

it's really the sort of thing you put in the LFP post because if that's something being dropped for the first time at session 0 I'm walking >.>
and that just wastes everyone's time q_q

[marble lion]

I never dm publicly

[burnt valley]

Air Genasi

[marble lion]

That didnt occur to me but yes

[potent vector]

This is just player etiquette tho, and applies to most campaign styles

[marble lion]

Thats fine i guess

[potent vector]

Extremely creative, dope.

[marble lion]

No because the player wont know to bring an air genasi so dumb luck

Unless its more than 1 player, that would be fine by me though

[potent vector]

If it's a survival campaign and players don't why that is, that seems unfair.

[marble lion]

Theyll know something

They probably wont get told that they can be immune by picking a race

[potent vector]

If they're told Abt a Poison fog filling the valley, smth to deal with fog or poison are both obvious

[marble lion]

Dont have to tell them that imo

Id probably keep it broader

[burnt valley]

I wonder if there are races that doesn't need food, water and air

[marble lion]

Something about how they get there, or about noone ever leaving that valley etc

[marble lion]

Yeah warforged for one

[blissful ibex]

autognome, reborn ,and warforged

[burnt valley]

I see

[marble lion]

Unless i invent special stuff, thats definitely on the ban list for me

Its not about being petty or winning, its about wanting the vision for my game to be shared by players

If something walks right past that vision this will politely be communicated

[burnt valley]

Plasmoid Gloomstalker Ranger would be awesome

[lavish flame]

I'm in a game with a Warforged and Reborn. I'm a Tiefling and there's also a Human. Only half our group eats food or sleeps regularly.

[blissful ibex]

love plasmoid

[blissful ibex]

either you or the human need to go tomelock and pick up Aspect of the Moon XD

[potent vector]

I need to play a Plasmoid soon, dude.

[blissful ibex]

I main one and it's fun when the rare situation comes up that her species features give tools for

[warm rapids]

Hey guys, are inspirations an uncapped resource?>

[blissful ibex]

IIRC in 2024 you're capped at one, but if you receive one while you have one you can give it to someone else
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#HeroicInspiration

[warm rapids]

Ahh so one per party member essentially

I think that's pretty balanced yeah

Not really a fan of the idea of making hard caps no matter who you're running with

So having it flexible for your team's personal usage is a nice compromise

[valid geyser]

id prefer uncapped inspiration that resets per session. makes it "use it or lose it"

assuming the GM gives it out at a good pace, players are gonna use it for things that arent life or death saving throws,
also rerolls never guarantee anything, and it isn't advantage so you have the chance to roll worse

[warm rapids]

Is obtaining an inspiration point pretty situational though?

[lavish flame]

In 2014 yes, in 2024 nah

[valid geyser]

by default, yeah. my idea depends on a GM who gives out inspiration not too infrequently, multiple times a session at least

[lavish flame]

my party is drowning in them rn. a bunch of stuff gives it out now

[valid geyser]

2024 makes inspiration a lot more of a non-meta resource via certain feats that just give it out

[warm rapids]

Ahhh okay

[hot marlin]

Sorry, I was cooking, didn't see the ping. So, to answer: I think you DM will probably use a homebrew or third party monster. If you can turn into an actual kraken statblock, well... First off: How? Second: You'll probably be fine.

[thorn quarry]

Long story tbh but it’s part of my character. The basics are I’m a grandpa who is a cult leader who accidentally found some artifact I met a kraken so pretty much he needed a host and picked me so yea

[echo fractal]

Good afternoon dungeon enthusiasts

[marble lion]

why would you want inspiration to be worse than advantage though?

[valid geyser]

i mean theyd be able to stack, wouldn't they?

[marble lion]

if you let them

but letting someone use inspiration only for them to roll worse and having to use that worse roll just sounds depressing to me

is that RAW?

[wise mica]

If everything in DND only dealt one singular point of damage, players had hp at first level plus Constitution, and monsters did usually 1 damage total with 1 hp being about average, how do y'all think that would go? I think it would be fun and I want to try it in a mock combat encounter vs. Myself to test it out lmao.

[valid geyser]

the RAW is it's a reroll where you'd use the new roll

[cursive fjord]

Man I really wish you could make a custom CLASS on ddb...

[marble lion]

horrible

i used to think RAW was a d10 on top or something

[valid geyser]

i mean it's not like you have critical fumbles or anything. If you roll a 1 its not gonna give you a worse result than rolling a 4

[marble lion]

(not bardic)

[cursive fjord]

My favorite class is a third party of Drakkenheim but I dont think it will ever come out to D&D Beyond 🙁

[minor cargo]

This is very similar to how Quest RPG is done. Most monsters and player abilities do 1 damage. PCs have 10 HP - and that's it. Some abilities will do 2 damage and a few very rare abilities will do 3 damage.

Because the game is built around it, it works really well and builds a lot of tension.

[blissful ibex]

daily reminder that roll20 is objectively the better VTT vs ddb

[cursive fjord]

I dont disagree but already owning things on ddb and not needing a table vs having to rebuy it all AGAIN and have it on a table

[blissful ibex]

and that part is more WotC's fault; you should only need to buy it digitally once and have it work across all official platforms

[wanton sorrel]

shrugs the only thing about roll20 is that it has pathfinder and other stuff than D&D... besides... both of them don't have previous old school d&d such as OD&D and first through second editions.

[jovial shadow]

Drowning in Inspiration? Hasn't that changed to PC's not being able to have more than one Inspiration at a time?

[rough basalt]

I wonder how I'm gonna continue my games.

[wise mica]

Yeah! It's entirely possible that reaching a comfortable balance point for the mechanic (damage & injury) would be nigh impossible without excessive limitations and restricting huge swathes of core phb content, but I want to run a short form adventure with a low-power fantasy setting meant for low level characters and, if I can manage it, I think high lethality combat meant to play fast and tactical would fit the setting and it's themes - so, I gotta try, lol. I don't want more than a couple paragraphs of rules and substitutions though, because that gets excessively complex real quick and I prefer elegant homebrew uwu

...id just run another system, but 5e is familiar and kinda just works

[valid geyser]

yeah it sounds like youre looking for an OSR styled game. Theyre usually not hard to learn, play, and GM

[wise mica]

Shh, this is a 5e server, the moderators will hear you... I would love to do exactly that some day 🙂

[marble lion]

has anyone ever played in a nonlinear game?

[hexed slate]

Yes?

[marble lion]

how was it

[wanton sorrel]

like darkest dungeon?

[marble lion]

i dont know enough about darkest dungeon so i cant say

it never struck me as nonlinear but maybe i just havent gotten far enough

[valid geyser]

closest to a place where discussion of that is possible is #dnd-elder-editions if were talking strictly old editions (retro-clone games dont count) but yeah mods usually wont care if its just a small comment about this and back to d&d talk
also fyi usually mods dont like strikethrough text since it messes with text to speech

[light flax]

Has anyone ever played a campaign where you accidentally became a Communist dictator for the fourth layer of hell?

[marble lion]

name fits

[steel shore]

Ok So A Bag Of Holding Can Hold 500 Pounds

[valid geyser]

it can

[steel shore]

A Standard Vending Machine Weighs That Much

[marble lion]

i would have thought a standard vending machine weighs more than that tbh

[valid geyser]

a very light one, maybe

[steel shore]

Large Male Lions Weigh that

[wanton sorrel]

can a standard vending machine kill a player if the vending machine roll a 20?

[valid geyser]

quick google search is telling me the average vending machine is like 650 lbs

[steel shore]

Do Children Have 20 Or Fewer HP?

[wanton sorrel]

probably 7hp?

[steel shore]

Ok Good

[valid geyser]

depends on the child. Average commoner has like, 5?

[steel shore]

Anyway I'm Gonna Be Using One

Should I Have A Sack Book?

[wise mica]

Ty ty. I like to use text formatting because I liked house of leafs as a kid. Pratchett's Discworld also did me in there. Lol

[wanton sorrel]

just roll a 1d4 for the child health.

[steel shore]

I should have a book to keep track of my bag of holding...

I'm calling it a sack book lol

[sturdy niche]

how many d6s would be comparable to the damage possible of 7d10s?

[steel shore]

Uhhh

1 And A Half?

[sturdy niche]

?

[glad arch]

Average damage 11d6

[steel shore]

Oh i thought how many rolls

[glad arch]

But 11d6 ≠ 7d10

[steel shore]

I am not the smartest person unfortunately

[glad arch]

Its an easy calculation, you take the number of the die (10) add 1 (11) and divide by 2(5.5) so the average of 1d10 is 5.5

[steel shore]

Ah! Thank You Luuk!

[sturdy niche]

any chance you know how many for cost comparable to the max possible damage? will take what i can get but if can get more info the better, asking cuz a dm and i are trying to translate a weapon from a monster of his that we snagged as we killed it in the campaign but it's base damage is 7d10 and a spear's is only 1d6 so i am trying to think of a way to make it into a similar homebrew item that is still as in line in the original idea

[hot marlin]

For the non-math people: They have the same average but 7d10 have a higher possible total

[wanton sorrel]

unless you roll poorly

[glad arch]

Well 7d10 has max 70 damage, so 70/6= 11.666

[hot marlin]

Which, I know, was what Luuk was saying, but as my grandpa used to say "It goes without saying, but it still goes better when you say it"

[glad arch]

So about 12

[vale sage]

Isnt Drakkenheim on DDB?

[sturdy niche]

ok, was thinking is closest, just wanted to make sure

[steel shore]

I don't math

I CAN ONLY COUNT TO 4

[wanton sorrel]

i'm starting to love druids

[stiff rock]

moon druids have crazy potential in 2024

[steel shore]

I Will Not Feed The Kolbalds

[steel shore]

Its A Meme. Of Course I Can Count Past 4

[glad arch]

Yeh 11d6 will roll 'more average' basically closer to the average roll. 7d10 has a higher maximum but a larger variety (more likely to roll higher or lower then the average)

[sturdy niche]

got the approval from the dm, is mathmatically identical he said, thx for the help

[glad arch]

It most definitally isnt but sure

Whats was the issue with 7d10 though

[sturdy niche]

i think what he ment it is close enough to the damage he had in mind

[sturdy niche]

basically the weapon on the statblock was structured differently that made it difficult to adapt as is into an item on dnd beyond for ease of use

[stray sage]

here is a fun question, who is your favorite demon lord and why?

[stiff rock]

does Tiamat count? she was an archdevil at one point

[wanton sorrel]

huh i thought we all gone through this favorite demon lord thing

[stiff rock]

there was a very long conversation about it last week

[wanton sorrel]

i think i was there...

[sturdy niche]

probably Orcus, cuz he is one of the only demon lords who has not only seemingly ensured his existence is eternal, but that he will ultimately get what he wants if he were to simply wait till the natural heat death of the multiverse, making all he does just a means to try to get to that goal quicker

[sturdy niche]

no, 1 she is a goddess, and 2 archdevils and demon lords are entirely different things

[marble lion]

mushroom woman

[sturdy niche]

it would be like someone asking you "what is your favorite food?" and you answer with a type of beverage

[stiff rock]

wasn't aware that archdevils and demon lords were two different things

[marble lion]

so tiamat was never an archdevil nor is at the moment?

[stiff rock]

tiamat was an archdevil, just not a demon lord i think is what they mean

[wanton sorrel]

demogorgon is one

[placid grotto]

Demon lords and devils are different things basically

[marble lion]

i know but thats not what steam said

[sturdy niche]

they both fall under the umbrella term of archfiend, that is likely what was confusing you, but just as devils and demons are different in dnd from one enough despite both being inherently evil beings, so two are the higher tiers of their kind

[marble lion]

1st part of it, not 2nd part

[stray sage]

personally my favorite is Baphomet, because i find the idea of a nature demon to be really cool

[stiff rock]

i'll go with orcus or yeenoghu for my favourite demon lords

[wanton sorrel]

wait didn't you say that last week?

[marble lion]

conversations repeat, new people are involved

[stray sage]

i have a terrible memory so i probably did

[marble lion]

this server has thousands of members, it doesnt really matter if one person saw this convo before

[sturdy niche]

honestly my favorite is a tie between several of them, but if having to pick one i'd likely pick orcus

[wanton sorrel]

well... mine is the two headed demonlord.... demogorgon...

[placid grotto]

I'd say pazuzu personally, but that's mostly cause I like the (basically retconned) old lore about how the first demons are older than time

And dude is just in it for the love of the game (ie, his hobby of corrupting mortals)

[jovial shadow]

I've never known Tiamat to be referred to as an Arch Devil. But then I stopped playind D&D when 3e came out. But she wasn't called an Arch Devil in 1e and in 5e 2024 she isn't called an Arch Devil. Both editions refer to her a Dragon Goddess, as a prisoner in hell

[wild meadow]

Hey guys I need some help designing a character if anyone has the ability to draw. This is gonna be my first character design and I already have a backstory and everything I just need someone to help design it

[placid grotto]

She was an arch devil or is currently one basically

[marble lion]

this would be recent lore so you wouldnt know this

[stiff rock]

you could try #character-discussion, although i would be surprised if you get any free offers

[sturdy niche]

but i can see why one might choose baphomet, he is basically the embodiment of brute strength and mad scientist, after all you don't have to be civilized to be intelligent or smart

[stiff rock]

why not try drawing them yourself? it doesn't have to be a masterpiece

[wild meadow]

I'll try it and @ you but your eyes will bleed just so yk

[sturdy niche]

she was an archdevil in the past when she was in charge of avernus

[hot marlin]

Some may argue that being civilized makes you less smart!

Baphomet would say that. Mostly him

[jovial shadow]

I just know that a search in the 2024 DMG they don't call her any kind of Devil at all, just a Dragon Deity who is a prisoner of Asmodeus

[glass granite]

If you do draw it, #dnd-arts-and-crafts is pretty much the only place to post photos

[sturdy niche]

Baphomet surely would

[wild meadow]

👍

[sturdy niche]

and likely beat you to death if you kept being stubornly argumentative with him, then go back to making his latest horrific demon creation

cuz yeah one of his claims to fame is making demons ala frankenstien and other such mad scientists

[jovial shadow]

My guess is somewhere in Forgotten Realms (1e was basicaly Greyhawk), novels or something they probably called her an Arch Devil? I wouldn't know. I just know in 2024 she's not called a devil

[sturdy niche]

no, it was because at a different point in her history

[naive cedar]

There’s a lot of contradictory dnd lore

[sturdy niche]

as historically there were some cases where she had lost her divinity, but in the current continuity she very much is a deity

[sturdy niche]

only if you try to force every edition and continuity into a singular one, which i feel is honestly mistake number one, dnd thrives on how while there is a default lore, you are not bound to it for your table and there are implied other timelines and worlds where things played out differently, is just not typically focused on

traditionally older lore is only treated as still valid to a newer edition unless newer lore directly contradicts it, each edition is as much it's own continuity as it is a continuation

[naive cedar]

That is true: there’s also the fact that any franchise that has gone on for decades has contradictory lore. DND is nothing compared to Star Trek or something

[sturdy niche]

and it is only contradictory if you make it that way, that is the beauty of multiple continuities

everyone gets to be right

[naive cedar]

Marvel said “screw it” and came up with canonical multiple timelines to not think about that

[stiff rock]

when in doubt, invent a multiverse

[sturdy niche]

yeah, multiverse theory is such a useful concept, so long as you don't abuse it like a crutch, which i don't think dnd does

[hot marlin]

Indeed, as a great man once said "Grab the concept of canon and rip out its throat"

[sturdy niche]

most things i find much like concepts such as retcons, can either be done well or poorly, they are not innately one or the other, despite what people assume

[sturdy niche]

or more accurately smash it into a million pieces, thus making it more accurate, cuz multiple continuities 😛

[jovial shadow]

Marvel only started doing that after the Disney buy out, before then they would just retcon someone's background because a new writer wanted to go into a different direction. The parallel earth's things were usually for the What If's and every now and then when they had to remind us how smart Reed Richards is

[distant storm]

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[sturdy niche]

don't really agree unless you mean potentially misusing it as more of crutch than anything, the multiverse has been a thing in marvel for decades

[jovial shadow]

I'm not sure you understand what I said.

[lone gyro]

is it okay to look for tables in here i’m trying to find something tect based atm

[normal junco]

you can check out #find-a-game

[stiff rock]

#find-a-game is where you're wanting to be

[lone gyro]

bet i somehow missed sorry!

[normal junco]

no problem. sometimes people need to ask for directions

[lone gyro]

i love both y’all’s pfps

[stiff rock]

mine is zoe from monster prom lol

[normal junco]

i forget what mine is.

oh yeah, grimlock

[lone gyro]

i love them both

[normal junco]

there's a #learn-to-play channel too if you need that.

[lone gyro]

no ik how to play i’ve been into it since covid

i’m just tryna find a text based thing and i didnt see the channel somehow

[stiff rock]

i've never really seen a text-based game lol, let me know if you find one

[glass granite]

I’ve been in one

[marble lion]

playbypost exists

[normal junco]

look for "play by post" or "pbp"

[marble lion]

note: most playbypost games are very very slow with hours or days between posts, just in case youre expecting a flowing 4hour session of text play

[stiff rock]

yeah i've heard of them just never knew them to actually be popular

i assume it's more just d&d-themed roleplay than actual d&d?

[lone gyro]

nah just something to pass time i’m moving around a lot and don’t have any privacy atm so i can’t do call otherwise i’d join a normal table

[marble lion]

i always imagined its dnd

[stiff rock]

i can't imagine waiting upwards of an hour to know the result of my natural 20 lol

[marble lion]

i assume that you maybe condense play a little
stuff like the DM sharing AC
and you rolling not only to hit but also damage

probably narrate your whole turn assuming what happens and only being prompted for changes if it doesnt work out

if its step by step normal dnd though, that sounds horrible to my ears

[stiff rock]

same here

[lone gyro]

idk i’m just looking for anything

[marble lion]

i hope you find what you need

[lone gyro]

i appreciate it

[thin siren]

anyone proficient in spirituality?
ive been mind-jacked and held spiritual hostage, please help.

[hot marlin]

Sir, this is a ~~Wendy's ~~D&D server.

[thin siren]

well, i know. still...

[hot marlin]

Look, whatever form of crisis you are going through, and I am sympathetic, I guarantee you this is not the place for that

[thin siren]

alright.

[naive cedar]

i was going to make a joke but since this seems unironic: i sincerely hope that you get better but also, uh, what incubus said

[hot marlin]

There are plenty of mental health support servers. I certainly do hope you find what you need in one of those.

[thin siren]

mental health is 1/10th of what i need.
unfortunately spiritual servers are either cursed or might lead to another mindjack.
tried my luck here, rolled -20 🤷‍♂️

[thin siren]

thanks for concern tho

[hot marlin]

Let's just move on.

[thin siren]

yup.

[naive cedar]

I like myconids

[hot marlin]

Anyways, how about those hobgoblins, uh? I really like goblinoids, ever since Volo's Guide to Monsters 5e had this somewhat more nuanced take on their societies

[thin siren]

hopefully i can get soonish enuff into dnd. id be a good gm, dont u think? 😅

[naive cedar]

I always thought bugbear was a funny name for a species tbh

[hot marlin]

It's a thing I have been considering. We often say that "monocultural species are bad", which, yeah, of course. But it makes sense in a worldbuilding where the gods exist. Religious rituals where the god might actually appear and give the people instructions can result in a species having something close to a monoculture

Gruumsh wants all orc communities to follow. Gruumsh will send servants to isolated communities of orcs to convert them to the Gruumsh way of life, you know?

[thin siren]

hmmm

approx how many npc's are in dnd?
i think i have some learning to do.

[naive cedar]

Uhh

[hot marlin]

If a god could actually appear everywhere to every member of that species and had the agenda of making that species follow their creed, then yeah. The orcs of one side of the planet will actually practice the same faith and the same rituals and the same way of life as those on the other side of the planet.

[naive cedar]

Countless lol

[hot marlin]

Yeah, it's... Literally an infinity

[karmic pendant]

A lot there really isn't a specific number