dnd-discussion

[halcyon forum]

but yeah, Strahd is not an incel but he does share certain qualities with them

[naive cedar]

And also the reason why incels are such a common target of mockery is because they’re a “safe to make fun of” misogyny, since they’re basically losers, and it’s easier to not admit that misogyny can manifest in people with power as well even though we all know it does

[halcyon forum]

like his obsession with a woman who doesnt want him

[naive cedar]

He’s literally not an incel but he has the same basic mindset, although tbf that was largely taken from Dracula

since ravenloft is just gothic horror tropes in the DND setting

[hot marlin]

Yes, this is what I meant. Incels are safe misogynists. They're "losers". Due to many factors, it is easy to refuse them empathy. Mocking them is easier. And they have no social power, stereotypically. "Unsafe" misogynists are the ones like Strahd. In a way, they're more scary.

[halcyon forum]

I guess I just dont like the term incel slung around as insult in general, because a big chunk of that population probably could become decent humans beings with a bit of therapy and non-toxic self help

[naive cedar]

I do think that the popularity of “incel” as an insult stems less from the misogyny aspect and more from the loser aspect tbh

[halcyon forum]

sure but that is the problem with the insult

[vale sage]

Hey y'all

I'm not new to DND but I'm new to playing DND if that makes any sense

Iv only been in a few games that flopped

I hope I can find a good game to join

[silk hare]

#find-a-game

[vale sage]

I wna use my very dumb,very big lady Goliath name Astrid

Lmao she's like 12ft tall or some bull shit like that ,I don't remember atm

Shes dumb enough that she can't read or do math 😭

[undone rain]

Lol whats her intelligence -17?

[naive cedar]

Yeah, what I’m trying to say is that I’m not against mocking misogyny, but I do think that the popularity of “incel” as a generic insult is more because they’re perceived as losers. Anyways, this js getting off topic

[vale sage]

Probably lmao

I don't remember atm

[naive cedar]

In earlier DND you needed an 8 intelligence to read

[vale sage]

But she's doesn't really need it when she's got two sledgehammers for fists,her solution to most problems is to punch

"Goblin blocking Astrid path,Astrid punch"

Lmao given the chance Astrid will attempt to box a dragon

[burnt valley]

Have her box with a Marut

[woven flint]

Yeah... good luck with that 😭

If you're in a situation where you have to fight a Marut, someone's really screwed something up

[craggy summit]

fun fact, in older editions of d&d, barbarians could not read

[naive cedar]

Oh yeah lol

[burnt valley]

Shhh

[silk hare]

whats that

[ebon silo]

Arm wrestle an owlbear

Druid in my party did

[vale sage]

Ngl I hope I can find a Skyrim campaign at some point

[jaunty wyvern]

Doesnt the Elder Scrolls series have an official ttrpg?

[burnt valley]

A very weak construct, mostly for T1 parties to use at as fodder

They have good melee damage tho

[silk hare]

i see thx

[elfin sparrow]

Lmao, you're evil

[atomic kayak]

Lime is lying unfortunately

[minor cargo]

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies? 🐰

[vital lily]

im running one but i got no spaces

i actually got an idea i wanna pass by someone

[minor cargo]

Go for it!

[vital lily]

so my campaign is during 4e 170 year

1 year before the great war starts

[burnt valley]

THEY are lying, it is a weak construct

[vital lily]

im thinking ima have the skyrim portion of the empire be ran by a centurion

(like 2 ppl below general i think according to a world anvil thing i found and using)

and im thinking maybe during this time its gonna be well protected roads in the area?

[burnt valley]

Its the truth

[atomic kayak]

just unfortunate when someone is asking a question with no indication of not being serious

[silk hare]

oh wait are those the astral plane guardian ones that can sever the link between soul and body or sth

[ocean comet]

Idea for fae: A slim shady fairy that asks "Can I have your attention please" to steal the players attention

[minor cargo]

Here's the entry from Monsters of the Multiverse: https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/2560866-marut

[vital lily]

does anyone know if the thalmor did things to skyrim during the great war

[atomic kayak]

No, Maruts are incredibly powerful constructs who are essentially multiversal contract enforcers

[ocean comet]

...yes thats like the whole plot of the game what

[vital lily]

the events of the thalmor we see are all after

[silk hare]

ight time to look them up ig, thx tho

[vital lily]

on the wiki it doesnt really state they ever invade skyrim (from what i see) cuz they do hammer/blackmarsh/and cyidile

[feral fulcrum]

Non D&D related question go in #non-dnd-topics or else the mods get grumpy.

[vital lily]

skyrim dnd

[proper forum]

Guys what is a thunder dome?

[still plover]

"Two men enter, one man leaves!"

[still plover]

An arena where disputes are settled by combat, often lethally.

[minor cargo]

Yeah, it's a battle arena thing. It's from the movie series Mad Max. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_Beyond_Thunderdome

[proper forum]

Can you please specify what you mean by that?

One of my friends did a one shot and he described it as a thunder dome so I thought it was a D&D thing

My apologies

[vital lily]

dnd game but skyrim setting

and it can be but fun quote

[burnt valley]

Nahh those are Astral Dreadnoughts which are CR21

[jolly oyster]

I am imagining a fairy with bleach blonde hair, in oversized clothes, casting thaumaturgy

[burnt valley]

Maruts are CR5

[proper forum]

Hmmmm I don't know if this is D&D enough for us to discuss here or if the mods will notice and punish us

[proper forum]

Omg this is brilliant I am definitely stealing that idea

[vital lily]

im doing a campagin set in 170 of 4e XD so im trying to figure out the world events that have or havent occured yet and how to mess with stuff

from worldbuilding point

itd be fun to add thalmor messing with skyrim but a much smaller force for a specific reason?

[proper forum]

Well um... can we do this in dm's?

[vital lily]

thats fine

[ocean comet]

thank you I've been trying to make this joke land for years and I realized it makes enough sense in a dnd setting that I should just make it a worldbuilding idea

[vital lily]

(i dont dm unless told/offered lmao sorry)

[vale sage]

Which civil war tho?

There's been a good number of them

You talking the most recent one aka the one we experience in Skyrim?

[vale sage]

Yes they did,

Up to and including possibly being the ones to start the dragons coming back

[vital lily]

The great one (171 to 175-6)

Empire vs thalmor war

[ruby anchor]

Hey

Can anyone call and rate my character

[hot marlin]

I'm pretty sure this should probably go to #non-dnd-topics

But no, the Thalmor never reached Skyrim. Most of the conflict was set to the south of the continent. The north was untouched.

[vital lily]

Asking for dnd reasons and bet

[still plover]

Share your sheet ( #character-discussion is best) and folk will chime in as and when.

[hot marlin]

Yes but it's still not really D&D lore or D&D mechanics or D&D worldbuilding or an actual D&D subject

[torn mountain]

I have a character build I am trying to confirm if this works. A warlock/circle of the moon druid with Master of Myriad Forms eldrich invocatio uses alter self, then wild shapes into a 4 legged creature. Then you can reactivate the alter self to transform into a different quadruped you didnt have the CR requirement for.

[hot marlin]

I don't know, just feels to me like the offtopic channel would be better

[ruby anchor]

How it won’t let me show screenshots

[hot marlin]

You can use a site to host the image and link to that.

[loud tendon]

you really just can't say "but it's for D&D" and make it on topic.. the lore of skyrim or Pokemon or Jujitsu Kaisen would be more for#non-dnd-topics or for like a Skyrim server. How to put skyrim stuff into a D&D game, you could try homebrew.

[loud tendon]

did you mean CR25 because they are definitely not CR5 creatures.

[main maple]

I’m hungry

[loud tendon]

if you are using a place like D&D Beyond, you can share a link to the character sheet in #character-discussion - otherwise, an image file would need to be uploaded to an image sharing site like imgr then post that link for folks to view.

[potent vector]

Vaguely Ranger related question, anyone know Abt God of War? Atreus is a Ranger right?

[proven mountain]

Ranger or Rogue

[loud tendon]

or a fighter with archery..

[eager marsh]

He's actually an illusionist because of his real name /j

[loud tendon]

spoilers...

[eager marsh]

It's been ten years

[potent vector]

Nah, he's got nature magic

Doesn't use it enough to be a Druid tho

Does have a beast companion tho, further Ranger proof

[eager marsh]

that's not a nice way to talk about Kratos

[loud tendon]

so is curse of strahd, but we still have an adventure spoilers chat for when people talk about it in more detail. Can't assume everyone has already played it.. was just saying we were treading into spoiler territory. ❤️

[burnt valley]

definitely Ranger

[dawn bison]

Yo, I'm making a high elf Rogue and somehow he's supposed to know 3 languages not counting common, thieves cant and elvish, I've already decided to teach him Infernal and Celestial but I cant decide between; Primordial, Draconic and Deep speech(Because they seem cool even tho they might not make that much sense to know), would yall recomend one of those 3?

[umbral girder]

No, there is an unofficial one.

[lusty tendon]

with bg3 logic he is just a traveling bard who has seen a ton of stuff and explains in his guides what he saw

[umbral girder]

Wait never mind! There is an Elder Scrolls ttrpg!

[umbral girder]

Draconic probably

They are old and magic just like the elves and are not from other planes. So they gotta live in the same world as each other.

Of course you can contrive other reasons for the other languages

Maybe your rogue’s criminal group is run by a Beholder so you know Deep Speech for example

[dawn bison]

Thanks! Thats actually a really good reason for why so it makes sense in game too

[dawn bison]

Thats also a really good point, all this does is make me think that with good creativity and language would fit really well, Thanks, man!

[umbral girder]

Admittedly I just took the idea of Xanathar the beholder who runs a crime guild for that one

[umbral girder]

Have fun and good luck!

[dawn bison]

Tysm!

[gentle torrent]

hello

good night

[warped jay]

Hello all!

Looking for advice,

I've recently stared a dnd group in the the NyC area and have reached nearly 40 people spread across 8 or so groups. Does anyone have any experience with maintaining/growing groups like this?

Quick background: I just started posting ads in city-specific sub reddits around 3 months ago and was able to start 2 groups. Month and a half later asked again and got another 2 groups. 2 weeks ago I had 32 people sign up 🙀.

Things I'm considering:

• Quarterly get together/monthly happy hours
• A few of us are already planning a ren-faire visit when its warmer
• Some sort of inter-party interaction (something viable, not trying to coordinate a 10-person party) either just for the meetups

Any horror stories I need to be aware of? I don't really know else to ask I'm kind of out of my element.

Thanks in advance!

[undone rain]

Warlocks slowly becoming a 2nd fav class. Despite the limited spellslots

[naive cedar]

he’s not actually a bard lol he’s a wizard. which just makes him funnier

[woven flint]

My favorite Caster is Cleric 😎

[naive cedar]

same 😎

[karmic pendant]

I agree I find clerics fun

[minor cargo]

I ran a club like this in college. Similarly, we had like 8 DMs and like 40 players. We played in person twice a week.

We found it worked best if each “season” we had an overarching storyline. We scheduled events before play started. This required us to send weekly emails to DMs on reminders of events going on.

We also had to email players updates about levelling up and stuff.

We ended each season with a HUGE game in the same party room. We catered it with some pizza and pop (we expensed it to the school) and afterwards some of us hit the bars.

Let me know if I can offer any other stories or experiences!

[woven flint]

My War Cleric, Karkas, was the most badass Cleric I've ever had, so, since then, it's been kinda hard for me to compare my other Clerics to him lol

[naive cedar]

War cleric owns. Light cleric is my favourite though

[warped jay]

I can't even grasp how you run a game with that many people at the same time. How is this possible?

[woven flint]

Honestly, when and IF my Knowledge Cleric dies

As we're going from Dragon Heist into Dungeon of The Mad Mage soon
I might replace him with A Light Cleric, idk lol

[ebon silo]

Im dying to play dungeon of the mad mage

Just have to convince my dm

[woven flint]

The fun thing about my Knowledge Cleric is.. we rolled magic items from a loot table last session
And he got a Robe of Eyes
So, now, he has True Sight ... at level 4

He got to see the poltergeist friend of ours last session because he can see into the Etheral Plane now!

[minor cargo]

If you’ve heard of it, these days people call it “West Marches”.

The way we ran it is that at the start of the session, in game, quests would be “posted” (there’s more fiction around this). Then the players self organize and walk off with a DM. They then play a full “one shot” - but all events are part of the wider world.

There’s more to it but that’s really the core.

[ebon silo]

Feels like 4 is the perfect balance

More than that sounds exhausting

[woven flint]

4 to 5 is pretty okay

6 is going a little above lol

Source?
I'm in a party of 6 with
A Wizard (Me), Sorcerer, Warlock, Paladin, Ranger and Eldritch Knight Fighter

We have... many spells

[ebon silo]

That better be a pure eldrich knight

[woven flint]

They are
And I'm a Bladesinger Wizard

[ebon silo]

[woven flint]

So we've got the Martial trying to be a Caster and a Caster trying to be a martial /joking

[ebon silo]

Campaign im right now im a 12 eldric knight and manage to get my hands on an illisionist bracers. The dumb smile i had on my face said it all

[woven flint]

They don't have a Rivalry at all
Probably because my Bladesinger is too kind and humble of a person to think he's better than anyone lol

[ebon silo]

Im a booming blade god

[vestal crow]

can i cast channel divinity twice in one turn ?

[woven flint]

My Bladesinger hit a NASTY triple nat 20 Steel Wind Strike last session lol, killed two major enemies and bloodied Two others
And yet he was telling everyone how impressed he was with them lol

[ebon silo]

Depends some use ur main action some use ur bonus action

[ebon silo]

My man just did a judgmental cut end

[flat verge]

Can someone help me figure out how to run this minigame idea I have for a session I'm running tomorrow? I've got all the pieces I just need to figure out this one mechanic

[woven flint]

He really did

[ebon silo]

…ur character is vergil?

I mean he a perfect blade singer

[woven flint]

Nope
He's a Harengon named Malaketh Dronnel

He's also
A pretty bubbly and upbeat fellow
And doesn't really think he's a good swordsman

[fossil hollow]

If Malaketh was more of an arse and more , he would be Vergil

[flat verge]

Wait I should prob go to DM discussion my bad

[woven flint]

This man is so friendly that when a Giant bloodied him and bowled him over in a hit
He told the giant they did a good job lol

[fossil hollow]

he will return

[woven flint]

Malaketh would probably kill less if I didn't already have a Hella merciful character I was already playing lol

[fossil hollow]

Still got the arse God-Complex elf too

[woven flint]

Sovis is an ASS
but he's compassionate towards those oppressed or suffering

He goes more out of his way to help people than the rest of the group has smh

[worldly flare]

Got Exploring Eberron on Friday!

[woven flint]

It's pretty fun 👀

[karmic pendant]

Nice

[woven flint]

I played a Sahuagin Forge Adept Artificer for a oneshot last night

[worldly flare]

I’m really enjoying it, the Dhakaan lore is so cool, plus it lets me cast Arcane Eye from up to eight miles away!

[lucid reef]

That sounds really cool

[woven flint]

Play a Sahuagin with a Martial or a caster that uses a lot of spell attack rolls
Blood Frenzy is such a fun feature
I'd say it's pretty good for Rogue since you can just get advantage on enemies that don't have their full HP

[atomic kayak]

Exploring Eberron is neat, covers some fun parts of eberron lore

[woven flint]

His name was Akarrhas, he accidentally rizzed up a Halfling Lady by removing a curse on her

They went on a date after the oneshot and I can imagine they're a happy couple now

Shark Man and Halfling lady lmao

[karmic jungle]

im playing dnd for 3-4 years and a person who started a month ago knows dnd more than me

[lucid reef]

I have yet to play a artificer are they difficult to play when they reach higher levels

[woven flint]

I thought so too

But Akarrhas was level 17
Had 25 AC (27 with using haste on himself) and had a Cloak of Displacement and barely anything could lay a hand on him while he was straight up pummeling them lol
He had a few items I didn't use, but I was having too much fun bonking and kicking ass lol

He made a Dragon Wrath longsword his Ghaal' Sharaat (?) Weapon and was able to throw it at things and have it return to his hand like a boomerang, it was fun

Funny thing is? He could've made its attack Bonus a part of his AC until the start of his next turn, which would've given him 30 AC since it had a +3 to hit and he has good armor with haste, but I didn't lol

[lucid reef]

I think I'll stick with my bards it seems like a lot

[woven flint]

It surprisingly wasn't lol

All I did was get the heavily armorer feat, got Plate +2, a +2 Shield and a Ring of Protection (+1) with Haste (+2)
And then swung a weapon a bunch of times

[lucid reef]

Oh im talking for myself because i'm not experienced in them

[woven flint]

Damn, I'm a premium yapper

What's your favorite bard subclass?

[vital lily]

creation

[lucid reef]

Im a big whispers fan

[woven flint]

My favorite is Valor, though Glamor and Dance are fun as well

I'm not really a big bard enjoyer personally though

[burnt valley]

nah its a three perfect judgement cuts

[jade hatch]

I think I love the idea of bard, a party member who writes the tale of the party with their own flourishes. That being said I do think the mechanics of the class don't "wow" me too often

[woven flint]

I have an Idea for a Halfling Valor Bard as a back-up character for if one of my lads die lol

[woven flint]

Being a Jack of All Trades is nice, at the minimum..

The only part where bards often lack is damage

[lucid reef]

Well in a recent campaign I'm playing a grave cleric
And a college of whisper bard multiclass

It's very fun

[jade hatch]

I love the bardic inspiration mechanic, it can be a way cooler way to be good at something imo

But that's mostly because I find reliable talent boring

[wraith kelp]

hello hows everyone

[hot marlin]

Fine. Chilling, waiting for the next episode of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. Just wrote down the layout of every single level of the megadungeon I have been thinking of for months. Wrote down my plans for the next few sessions of the Shadowrun game I'm running. All in all, a good lazy sunday

Great show by the way. An inspiration, I think. It has a lot of heart.

[wraith kelp]

also i have a question can i make phycic/telekinesis character with lvl 1?

[hot marlin]

Uh yeah. Just be a spellcaster.

You want mage hand, telekinesis, bigby's hand... Lots of spells that are telekinetic in nature.

And I guess we might be getting an actual psionic class soon enough

[jade hatch]

Yep spellcasters are good ways to play that fantasy. There's the psion in the future possibly

[hot marlin]

But thinking about it: I've been getting a bit angry recently about how a lot of games I have been in failed to strike the proper balance between humour and seriousness.

I actually left a game due to that not too long ago. Well, it was mostly due to one player being an absolute annoyance

Juvenile humour is not my thing, I must say. I think proper comedy comes from the situation. It needs to be spontaneous and not distract from the situation but actually focus on it.

Even if your humour is crass, there is a difference between South Park jokes and Family Guy jokes, you know?

[reef pasture]

can someone help me with a question abt roleplaying please? or is this not the right channel to ask?

[hot marlin]

It is better to ask than to ask to ask.

[reef pasture]

that true

[hot marlin]

And, you know, there's no way to know if this is the right channel before you ask the question

[worn lagoon]

My DM is letting me play the UA necromancer, yippee

[reef pasture]

so like i want to make my players want to roleplay more rn they dont rlly and also 1 of the 4 isnt serious and another 1 is like half serious any tips how to change that?

its my 1st time dming so idrk yk

[hot marlin]

OK so "roleplaying" is a very vast concept.

What exactly do you mean by "roleplay more"? Do you want their characters to have meaningful interactions with NPCs? With each other?

[reef pasture]

interacting with the world and npcs and eachother in character rather than "I do that..."

[hot marlin]

Alright. So my advice is that you need to start.

[reef pasture]

like to initiate the conversation for example?

[hot marlin]

First, create a situation where they wouldn't agree on what to do. Where discussing the right course of action is necessary.

It depends on your setting and the situation, of course. Tell me, right now, what are the PCs doing?

[reef pasture]

rn theyre in a forgotten civilization flesh corrupted dungeon type place

[hot marlin]

Uh. Not exactly the sort of place where complex discussions can be had without a lot of effort on your part.

[reef pasture]

except for the boss not really

[hot marlin]

But for an example, why not have NPCs from civilization also exploring this place? While dwelling in the dungeon, the PCs find traces of a campfire left by people who also descended in this place before them. The ashes are cold, but it can't be older than a few days. Then the party may meet those NPCs who descended there, and perhaps they found madness and corruption. Or a powerful artefact.

And maybe that expedition killed each other because of that, leaving two survivors. One who wants the artefact brought back to civilization to be studied and used for the benefit of others, the other who wants that artefact destroyed

It's just an example, of course. But where there is conflict, especially relatively morally grey or amoral conflict, there is more roleplaying opportunities

[craggy summit]

Something I do is whenever the players want to persuade, deceit or intimidate someone, I ask them "and what do you say and/or do?" And that'll help them get into character a lil bit

I also like to lower the DC and/or give them advantage if they do a really good job at what they say too

[wraith kelp]

guys what do yall think can a new player whos never played dnd become a dm?

[glass granite]

That’s what I did

[wraith kelp]

cuz my friends never played dnd and i dont wanna be a dm

[reef pasture]

dang ur good thanks

[reef pasture]

thats also good advice appreciate it

[craggy summit]

It's possible I suppose but wouldn't recommend

[wraith kelp]

not that i dont want to its just i wanna be a player bc i like it more

and a introverted dm is worse than a bad dm

[glass granite]

I chose to be a DM to make the process easier
And heck no

[glass granite]

This is untrue

[reef pasture]

i think if you have played alr and they didn't for their experience and even urs its best if you do it bcuz u alr know how things work and go yk what i mean

[glass granite]

Also have you tried DM’ing?

I don’t remember talking to you about DM’ing is all

[reef pasture]

and u like know good worldbuilding and stuff for example one of my players who is new gave me a really shallow backstory which is hard to work with which isnt a bad thing but imagine that for the bbeg and npc and everything, or a chatgpt entirely made character

[wraith kelp]

i did try dming with my brother and either my story was too boring or he just wanted to do something else or he doesent like dnd

[glass granite]

1. solved by using a module
2. solved mildly by 1) and also by expectations
3. solved by finding another group

So just run a module with another group

[wraith kelp]

i cant find a group and idk how to write a campaign story

[reef pasture]

do u run homebrew or regular 5e

[glass granite]

Modules are pre written
And finding a group is far easier as a DM

[wraith kelp]

um

[main maple]

Hello

[jolly fox]

I am very new to dnd and want to start a campaign, would anyone be willing to teach me how things properly work, i understand most of the mechanics but there are things i struggle with understanding

[craggy summit]

There's some helpful resources in #dnd-newcomers I'll have the links set up

[sonic verge]

Sorry to interupt. I have a question about the cantrip spell "Spare the dying".
Can you use it to create a pacifist character?

If you inflict a life ending injury on an enemy when you attack, for example an arrow to the head, can you use the spell to both "stabelize" them and get rid of the injuries too?

[reef pasture]

what are you struggling with? i can try, i been playing for quite some time, mostly homebrew tho and currently dming

[wraith kelp]

idk is it just me or i think that illusion spells are a bit op

[craggy summit]

Not quite. It'll prevent them from dying but it doesn't really heal them per say

Someone that's stabilized doesn't need to make death saving throws but are still unconscious

[jolly fox]

I have been listening to some podcasts so i know abour storybuilding, i struggle more with player actions ans mechanics, like AC, spell slots, weapons, and my biggest question is how to find people to play with

[loud tendon]

Like what spell?

[wraith kelp]

idk like invisibility or minnor ilussion or some stuff idk

[severe rampart]

Not really

[reef pasture]

u can try to ask ur friends for people to play with for example or find a group online

[craggy summit]

Out of combat, they can be really good when used by a creative player, not quite OP tho. There aren't many (if any) illusion spells that are good in combat

[severe rampart]

Illusion spells get counteracted by truesight, minor illusion also rarely works out the way you want it

The only "OP" illusion spell I reckon is Mirror Image

[worn lagoon]

no, illusion is not a school that particularly stands out

[reef pasture]

also player actions and the things uve listed arent really specific so idk how to help but if u wanna specify ill try

[wraith kelp]

i think its preety cool

[severe rampart]

It's cool, just not OP

and believe me, I have so many illusion spells

[glass granite]

A reminder that invisible individuals can still be detected (and everyone knows the location of them in combat)

Unless they Hide

[severe rampart]

would Hypnotic Pattern count as an illusion? if so, that's also good

[sonic verge]

But in a roleplaying aspect, can you use it on someone whos head was chopped off?

[wraith kelp]

gimme a scenario and ill do it with illusion spells

[glass granite]

Hypnotic pattern is very good, fair

[glass granite]

You are being chased down a hallway by 3 guards, one of them with crossbows and the other two with hand axes

[severe rampart]

Probably not, not much to spare there

[craggy summit]

No, spare the dying doesn't work on creatures who are already dead

[glass granite]

Only those who are dying

[glass granite]

The guards know the place well

[severe rampart]

that's the equivalent of checking the vitals of a person who has been decapitated, I reckon

[wraith kelp]

make it look that ceeling collapsed with an illusion spell and just turn into a item or use invisibility?

[glass granite]

Which spell? A lot of them don’t provide the necessary noise

[wraith kelp]

idk

[severe rampart]

You cannot create those effects using illusion spells

[glass granite]

And invisibility doesn’t stop you from being detected here
They see you disappear and can still hear you

[wraith kelp]

oh

[severe rampart]

Also, no offense, really flawed plan

[wraith kelp]

sad 🙁

did i mention throwing a bomb on them

[glass granite]

Guards may also be trained in seeing through illusions
See, the bomb is a good idea (assuming everyone already knows where you are)

[severe rampart]

Yeah, Minor Illusion only covers about a 5ft cube, so you can't make any meaningful illusions, even Major Image is only about 20 ft cube, so no illusion spells can save you there, you either just gotta kill them or sneak

[fossil hollow]

Remind me to never bring nugget to an airport

[glass granite]

Oi

[severe rampart]

I don't know, explosives would only create noise and attract more guards

[glass granite]

Hence assuming everyone already knows where you are

[woven flint]

Can't be more guards if you kill all of them

[fossil hollow]

No quarter

[severe rampart]

are bombs expensive in DnD?

[glass granite]

Was more inclined towards just fireball

[lusty kelp]

The real answer for solving everything with illusions? "I cast Illusory Dragon"

[wraith kelp]

ok then teleoathy or phycic powers are OP

[fossil hollow]

eh

[sonic verge]

But how does dying work? Like, "you get an arrow through your head" (0hp) you start rolling death saving throws, someone uses "Spare the dying" on you? And youre okay?

Or does the DM need to specify that you reached 0HP from non-lethal injiries?

[severe rampart]

not really

[wraith kelp]

gimme a scenario 😭

[glass granite]

Telepathy only can get you so far, and psychic powers in dnd aren’t all too impressive

[fossil hollow]

A lot of subclasses based around psionics have telepathy, and thats not why theyre OP

[wraith kelp]

oh

[fossil hollow]

telepathy also doesnt inherently give you access to reading people's minds

[glass granite]

Traversing over a rickety bridge, surrounded by goblins.

[fossil hollow]

You send out a telepathic message, thats it. Some telepathy features let you make a network between creatures you choose to communicate back with you telepathically

[glass granite]

Yeah the feat is just one way

[wraith kelp]

rickety?

[severe rampart]

not stable

[fossil hollow]

Unstable

[severe rampart]

Hey, you just Echo'ed my words!

[wraith kelp]

hm use jump and imagine its telekinesis 😭

[fossil hollow]

Echo this Summons Echo Knight

[lusty kelp]

Ah, another perfect situation for fireball.
Whisky that is.
Get the gobbos all drunk on fireball whisky.

(then blow them up with a fireball spell)

[wraith kelp]

or use telekinesis and make it collapse and use feather fall and goblins will die of fall dmg

[severe rampart]

Echo this Summons Echo Knight

[fossil hollow]

... well played

[wraith kelp]

im smart "

[fossil hollow]

Now, do you need help bagging Narcissus?

[severe rampart]

That's not how it works

[wraith kelp]

🙁 howw

[woven flint]

Telekinesis is a 5th level spell

[severe rampart]

it's not like in the Stranger Things show

[wraith kelp]

i meant like psychonic powes

[severe rampart]

Even better, I can BE Narcissus (Changeling baby let's go)

[lusty kelp]

as much as people talk about stranger things... i've never seen the show.

[wraith kelp]

awh

[severe rampart]

Psions don't exist (yet)

[fossil hollow]

i feel like youd stay in your true form all the time

[wraith kelp]

its good i mean the first few seasons lol

[lusty kelp]

I sadly don't have netflix

[severe rampart]

I actually do, what the hell man

[wraith kelp]

ugh i mean like mind stuff

[wraith kelp]

watch on yt lol

[fossil hollow]

I can see your miiiind

[lusty kelp]

use your mind.... to cast regular spells~

[wraith kelp]

um

[severe rampart]

"Psionics ("mind stuff") refers to the use of raw mental power—willpower, intellect, and emotion—to directly influence, manipulate, or rewrite reality without the need for verbal, somatic (gesture), or material components"

So yeah, Psions are "like mind stuff"

[wraith kelp]

😐 i dont want to play dnd anymore

[halcyon forum]

plenty of psionic subclasses

[topaz blade]

Helllooo

[fossil hollow]

although the exact mechanics have flip flopped alot in the 50 years of dnd

[topaz blade]

Any games being played today? One shots etc?

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[severe rampart]

Yeah but the class "Psions" are an actual upcoming class, is it not?

[halcyon forum]

yeah

[fossil hollow]

no set release yet

[halcyon forum]

very likely this year

[fossil hollow]

still betting on it sitting in the shelf with Mystic.

[severe rampart]

You can't just quit because you can't do whatever you want, remember it's a team game, and the stuff you want to do is possible, with just the right spells, just not the spells you're thinking of

[woven flint]

It's much more balanced than Mystic was lol

[halcyon forum]

my impression was that the community reception to the playtest was good

so i doubt they gonna shelf it

[severe rampart]

and Stranger Things isn't a very good representation of DnD anyway.

[fossil hollow]

i would be hella surprised if they touch Dark Sun at all

[wraith kelp]

well.

[naive cedar]

i doubt dark sun is going to be updated but im pretty sure psion will get released somehow

[fossil hollow]

(technically speaking. theyre supposed to be playing 3e or something)

[severe rampart]

better representation would be Dungeon Meshi, The Legend of Vox Machina, The Mighty Nein, etc.

[halcyon forum]

I think they might, but even if they back out, then there is a decent chance its gonna end in a different (of everything) book

[fossil hollow]

Dungeon Meshi is based off another media

[naive cedar]

slayers is the best representation

[woven flint]

Ehhhh...

[severe rampart]

better, not good

[woven flint]

The best representation of D&D is D&D 😔

[fossil hollow]

Wizardry or something i think is the inspiration of Dungeon Meshi

[severe rampart]

Also I am biased, because Dungeon Meshi is a food anime and I like food

[naive cedar]

its definitely wizardry. wizardry is HUGE in japan

[fossil hollow]

ah, so it is called Wizardry, wasnt too sure if that was the name

[rough basalt]

Might be a Multiverse Book if Hasbro lays the final smackdown on the Dark Sun setting book

[severe rampart]

Was that ever explored in the show?

[naive cedar]

my dad loves wizardry so im somewhat familiar with it lol

[fossil hollow]

No, just based off the time its set in, that would have been the edition theyre playing in

[severe rampart]

I don't recall, all I know about Stranger Things is that they use Vecna, and that the finale sucks

[naive cedar]

they definitely arent playing 3e the show is set in the 80s. theyd be playing adnd

[woven flint]

Ah yes, Soyjack Vecna

[fossil hollow]

oh wait, 80s? Me thought it was more recent, huh

[rough basalt]

Nah late 70s to mid 80s era

[fossil hollow]

yeah, ADND

[naive cedar]

i havent actually watched stranger thigns lol

[craggy summit]

The arrow through the head example might be up to the DM but that's the general premise of it, and yes it has to be non lethal

Dropping to 0hp means you're unconscious, not dead. And rolling death saves. Spare the dying just only stabilizes someone which means they don't need to roll the death saves but are still unconscious

It's basically a "stop bleeding out" spell

[severe rampart]

It's terrible

[woven flint]

Actual Vecna and Demogorgon would feel mocked by the creatures named after them lmao

[rough basalt]

It's weird cause of how long the show took to conclude due to writer strikes and covid

[naive cedar]

i know it got review bombed recently or something and the finale wasnt good

[empty thicket]

its in fact a strange thing

[severe rampart]

they used AI in the show, or so I'm told

[rough basalt]

Yeah the second half of the final season had a GoT season 8 moment.

[naive cedar]

ew

[rough basalt]

Where the whole show has a mid episode at worst but then final stretch kinda craps the bed

[craggy summit]

I'm not sure if it's spoilers to answer and/or ask, but is vecna in stranger things not the dnd vecna? 🤔

[rough basalt]

No

[severe rampart]

Ehh, we've seen... stranger things 🥁

[woven flint]

Nope, not even close in power either

[severe rampart]

Not at all

[rough basalt]

The DnD cast just use whatever bbeg that's in their dnd game to describe the monsters

[naive cedar]

yeah from what i understand they're labeling the monters that because its what they're playing

[severe rampart]

Vecna lost to a couple of kids in the show

[woven flint]

D&D Vecna has the potential to destroy and recreate ALL of reality

[rough basalt]

||1st was Demogorgon, the 2nd was Mind Flayer then 3rd was Vecna||

[craggy summit]

That makes sense 😅 I haven't watched stranger things and I'm actually running vecna eve of ruin so my current hyperfixation is vecna

[fossil hollow]

i feel like you dont need to spoiler that at this point in time Sora

[rough basalt]

True

[fossil hollow]

spoiler season is loooong done for anything before s5

[woven flint]

D&D Demogorgon has a cooler design imo

But I like Stranger Things Mindflayer a lot design wise

[rough basalt]

Only thing DnD vecna and ST vecna have in common is that they're both fleshy bags of meat

[severe rampart]

and then there's Vecna...

[woven flint]

You should look at Vecna BEFORE he became a Lich, he was REALLY beautiful lol

[severe rampart]

ohh my...

Thank you for enlightening me, Tokii

[woven flint]

There's an art Piece of Vecna and Kas sitting at a table talking about the destruction of Oreth and my GOD...

[craggy summit]

There's actually an illustration of vecna before he became a lich in the vecna eve of ruin book and he is indeed handsome 🙂‍↕️

[rough basalt]

Yep, he and his beautiful "roommate" spent a lot of time together

[severe rampart]

Awh he has a roommate 😔

[woven flint]

I wish there was a Statblock for Vecna when he was still human tbh

[severe rampart]

Tokii has good taste

[fossil hollow]

i feel like it would be a Humanoid (Human) Lich

[rough basalt]

You know what'd be fun

Have Vecna be present in an adventure he's the bbeg in but disguised as his former humanoid self

[woven flint]

I'd let him step on me...

What?

[umbral girder]

I just had an idea to make up a reason why Poison effects Warforged.

These inventors made it an intentional design flaw to test out if the food they eat is poisoned.

[rough basalt]

He was an elf right? I forget, I didn't look at the art long enough to remember

Or was he human

[severe rampart]

that is not a ridiculous thing to say

[woven flint]

Nope, Vecna was human

So was Kas

[rough basalt]

Idk why I thought he had pointy ears in that art

[severe rampart]

Elves are typically depicted with long blonde hair right?

[rough basalt]

Mightve just been normal human pointed ears tho

[umbral girder]

Wasn’t Vecna a half elf?

[fossil hollow]

its the pretty boy effect. Honestly, he reminds me of movie Thranduil

[woven flint]

Maybe he was a Half-Elf?

Or maybe that's just a trait of humans on Oreth

[fossil hollow]

wiki describes him as once-human king

[woven flint]

Kas had pointy ears too IIRC

[fossil hollow]

Specifically, hes Flan

[rough basalt]

Seems there's different lore over the ages that said he's a half elf once so might be where some confusion is

[craggy summit]

Sources I'm finding are saying he's human

[woven flint]

Vecna but Orc

Imagine a Barbarian Lich 😨

[craggy summit]

Vecna but flumph

[fossil hollow]

Vorcna

Vorkna

[rough basalt]

Speaking of Vecna. I like Exandria Vecnas design

[fossil hollow]

You mean the Whispered One?

[rough basalt]

Ye

[fossil hollow]

im meh on it

looks like any other lich i can think of

now the one with flowing red robes and spiked collar, that i can get behind

[naive cedar]

i thought liches were generally human wizards

[umbral girder]

They can be any race

Like Valindra Shadowmantle is an Elf lich

[naive cedar]

fair but vecna was created back when there were more restrictions on that kind of thing

[covert root]

Usually, but it's an apotheosis that can be achieved by anyone with the know-how and willingness to sacrifice.

[naive cedar]

either way im like 99% sure he was called a former human

[rough basalt]

I'd say generally liches were human wizards

[fossil hollow]

Ssazz Tam was human, Valindras an Elf, Vecna was human, Accerack was Cambion

[umbral girder]

Yeah Acererak was a Demon before being a lich

[covert root]

Cambion.

[naive cedar]

i thought cambions were devils

[still plover]

50% human, and the nameless hordes represented by a statblock.

[covert root]

I believe cambion just refers to half-fiend, devil or demon passing.

[umbral girder]

They are part any fiend

[fossil hollow]

Sammaster was another human

[umbral girder]

Acererak’s father was a Balor

[naive cedar]

fair

[fossil hollow]

Raerlin was another human

[jolly basin]

Cambions can be half devils or half demons, they are the offspring between humans and full devils/demons. But they are for sure fiends

[fossil hollow]

lots of humans. IG we just got more to gain than other races

[umbral girder]

Ebondeath was a dragon /jk

[umbral girder]

Also we just have more Humans than other races in DnD

[naive cedar]

from what i understand liches are often the result of wizards trying to extend their lifespan

[umbral girder]

Also being a Lich gives you more power too

[fossil hollow]

and achieve greater power. You know what humans are most known for? Shorter lifespans and a craving for power and more

[covert root]

Sometimes the world's just too big, and that which needs to be discovered requires more time.

[naive cedar]

yeah exactly

[umbral girder]

Like becoming a Lich does give you way more benefits than just longer life too

[covert root]

Yeah, and you can even hide the unsavory part of it with magic, too. Valindra does.

[fossil hollow]

An elf got time. Dwarves have no care for the arcane. Halflings too busy enjoying the worlds bounty, Gnomes busy creating more things or enjoying the small animals. Goliaths and Dragonborn too proud

One day i will have a Goliath vampire BBEG

[covert root]

There's quite a few elf liches, honestly. Apparently, it's not enough time.

[fossil hollow]

o feel those were the most ambitious individuals

[woven flint]

It makes more sense for Humans to want to become Liches tbh

[fossil hollow]

or the most unfortunate

[umbral girder]

Was Strahd human? I know he has the super long ears but that could just be a vampire thing.

[covert root]

Right, thus there's more human liches in comparison.

[fossil hollow]

human im seeing yeah

[umbral girder]

Aarakocra with their 30 years of life

[naive cedar]

im pretty sure strahd was human

[fossil hollow]

He just had connections to elves

[covert root]

Strahd was a human, yes, a Barovian prince.

[naive cedar]

if im wrong correct me

[woven flint]

Not just because of Lifespans, but even Humans in D&D are so ambitious they're willing to commit atrocities to accomplish their goals (Not all of them, but a lot of the evil ones) which is quite a realistic depiction of Humans lol
A lot of other species kinda fear them apparently

[fossil hollow]

Netherese exists as ruins for a reason

[naive cedar]

yeah humans in dnd have a reputation for ambition

[umbral girder]

looks at Orcs

Orc Lich would be sick.

[naive cedar]

dragonborn lich

[hot marlin]

Orcs are... Different. Forgotten Realms lore has a certain way of portraying them

[umbral girder]

Like an Eldritch Knight Lich

Their respawn takes longer but they have a lot of "nuh uh I'm not dead yet."

[naive cedar]

wait wait wait. tiefling lich

[sleek cloud]

ner’zhul would like to know your location

[umbral girder]

So Acererak

[woven flint]

I... think Humans are way more ambitious and way more willing to do things outside of cultural limitations

[hot marlin]

In Forgotten Realms lore, the orcs are generally the most devout people in the world. The orc gods have a great cultural hold on them, and orcs live to prove themselves to their gods. And dying in combat against the enemies of the people is seen as a great reward. So for an orc to become a lich, that orc would have to have completely forsaken the most fundamental tenet of their religion

[fossil hollow]

Orc are just driven for conquest and glory by Mag

wait, no its Gruumsh

[umbral girder]

So Gruumsh just needs to say "Liches are ok." and we got way more Liches

[fossil hollow]

Magblyuet (or whoever) is someone else

[woven flint]

Acererak is right there
He's a Cambion

[hot marlin]

Moreover: Orcs are not personally ambitious. They are always portrayed as being extremely "community minded".

[severe rampart]

would two chromatic orbs be better than one chromatic orb + a different spell on a sorcerer?

[hot marlin]

That's the goblin one. Literally Gruumsh's archenemy

[fossil hollow]

what

[umbral girder]

Thats for the Goblins

[fossil hollow]

yeah, i was saying it's not him

[naive cedar]

so like. are cambions tieflings?

[woven flint]

This too,
Becoming a Lich is an INCREDIBLY selfish process

[hot marlin]

Gruumsh and Maglubiyet are natural enemies. Like Gruumsh and Corellon. Or Gruumsh and Lolth. Or Gruumsh and Moradin. Or Gruumsh and his reflection in the mirror.

[umbral girder]

Very close. Just a tad more fiend than humanoid

[naive cedar]

gruumsh and shar should team up tbh

[umbral girder]

Blurred lines like Dragonbron and Half Dragons

[woven flint]

Gruumsh hates everything

[naive cedar]

everyone hate shar

[hot marlin]

Uh... Traditionally, a cambion would be the parent of a tiefling. Cambion are like 50/50 while tiefling tend to be more diluted

[naive cedar]

yeah im not super familiar with 5e lore so im still learning stuff. that makes sense

[hot marlin]

Nah, he likes his wife and some of his sons. I don't know if he has daughters though

[west timber]

Re reading Eragon and man is it making me want to make and play another Drakewarden lol

[woven flint]

I still count Acererak because he's the only Fiendish individual I've known to become a Lich, but there's probably more

[west timber]

I know it isnt exactly 1-1 but its close enough

[fossil hollow]

speaking of fiends...

[woven flint]

Yes, yes, Incubus is here

[fossil hollow]

what if i put Incubus in the bag

[hot marlin]

...

[woven flint]

Don't.
Do not the Incubus

[naive cedar]

are incubi still demons btw?

[fossil hollow]

Hey, incubus, do you count as a CR 15+ creature

nope, theyre not demons, devils, or even yugoloths. Theyre just general fiends

[naive cedar]

cool thanks

[fossil hollow]

they played both sides iirc, then defected

[umbral girder]

Incubi and Succbi are their own thing

[hot marlin]

Though some incubi and succubi actually joined one side or another.

[fossil hollow]

Like Demogorgon's ex

[severe rampart]

What did you join

[hot marlin]

For example, Her Magnificience Malcanthet is a demon lord and a succubus.

I am not that kind of incubus.

[naive cedar]

im a tressym so i have no ball in this game

[fossil hollow]

You know who treats Mal with such respect?

[severe rampart]

and I'm an Echo

[hot marlin]

Tokii and Ti are obsessed with proving I am actually a fiend, but they can't. There's no proof. It's their rampant paranoia

[fossil hollow]

Im a F(r)iend then

[severe rampart]

You do have a suspicious amount of knowledge

[woven flint]

The Fey have their eyes on you.

[naive cedar]

hey, are you resistant to fire damage?

[severe rampart]

I've never seen Incubus and a Fiend in the same room

[fossil hollow]

you have now

[woven flint]

Incubus probably got rid of his own fire resistance to blend in with the rest of us

[naive cedar]

what about poison damage?

[hot marlin]

Only because of a magic item.

[fossil hollow]

suuuuure

[woven flint]

Riiiiiight....

[hot marlin]

Monk main.

[naive cedar]

pics or it didnt happen

[minor cargo]

Tragic.

My culture (not having fire resistance) is not your costume.

[severe rampart]

What Isn't resistant to poison?

[naive cedar]

wait, your name has a warlock icon next to it...

[fossil hollow]

Undead, Constructs, Elementals

[undone rain]

I may or may have not triple stacked smites and may or may have not turned a swordsman into ash

[woven flint]

My Harengon Wizard

He's Vulnerable to poison damage rn lol

[naive cedar]

im not 🤔

[umbral girder]

Most humaanoids

[severe rampart]

How

[hot marlin]

Because confusion is the way to ascension. One must spread lies and contrary informations until the concept of truth itself becomes unapproachable. Only then may one set fire to the pillars of society and then feast on the ashes

[undone rain]

Dm just allowed me to use all my smites that i have

[umbral girder]

2014 Eldritch Smite and Divine Smite with a Smite spell perhaps?

[fossil hollow]

yeap, demon

[severe rampart]

So you just... Jacob's Ladder that fool?

[undone rain]

And he said "how do you want to do this" so yk i had to make it sound extremely exaggerated

[naive cedar]

ok ulysses you're still totally a fiend

[fossil hollow]

... how many Philosophers were fiends i wonder now

[umbral girder]

Yesn't

[naive cedar]

aristotle and that guy who wanted to just sit around all day

[fossil hollow]

Diogenes cant possible be a fiend. Hes too human

[severe rampart]

everyone except Diogenes

[severe rampart]

Hey I just Echo'ed your words!

[hot marlin]

Or politician!

[undone rain]

Look we were dead, sent to purgatory (kind of), met the grim reaper, could only come back to life if we win against a very cocky swordsman in a colloseum. Can you blame me for wanting to come back to life? Besides we were kinda running out of time for the session

[severe rampart]

Plato was definitely neither fiend nor human

[fossil hollow]

you know them to be synonyms

[hot marlin]

That is very insulting to demonkind.

[naive cedar]

plato was the precursor to "umm ackshually" reddit dudes

[fossil hollow]

its befitting for demonkind

[severe rampart]

We might be cancelled

[severe rampart]

Come on, they're not THAT evil

[fossil hollow]

Oh, i just found out about a stone giant lich

[fossil hollow]

The Abyss is the embodiment of primal evils and fears, made by the Elder Evil of elementals

which is used as a prison for its creator

[naive cedar]

im a tressym pretending to be a cat pretending to be a wizard pretending to be a cleric btw

[fossil hollow]

ya know how [Redacted] up you have to be to get the Atlas treatment under your own creation?

anyway, i need to make a Stone Giant lich

[gusty yarrow]

starting to think my dm has smth against me, ive been critted 6 times in 2 combats

[fossil hollow]

The return of Dodkong

[severe rampart]

could just be really unlucky, but if you have a suspicion, start keeping track

[gusty yarrow]

nah ik its just terrible luck

were playing on forge n all

[serene jolt]

You guys want to hear a couple of the magic items my character has at level 4 from our DM? They're pretty broken but cool. 🤣

I'm gonna share anyways.

The first one is Gloves of Quick Casting. She can cast a spell as a bonus action if it normally takes an action and it ignores the 'one levelled spell per turn' rule. So she can cast two spells in one turn if she wants to! It has two charges per long rest.

Then she has a Shortsword of True Strike which simply gives her advantage on every attack with the Shortsword.

[feral fulcrum]

The SHortsword isn't all that broken.

[serene jolt]

Yeah probably not but the gloves MMMMM

The sword is at least useful since I don't have many ways to get advantage right now. I'm a level 4 War Cleric.

[feral fulcrum]

And multiple spells cast per turn can be fine as long as the DM is ready to compensate accordingly.

[fossil hollow]

dont war clerics already have a BA attack

[feral fulcrum]

BA Attacks, sure, not Bonus Action Spellcasting + Ignoring the 1 Spell that's not a cantrip per turn rule.

[fossil hollow]

oh wait, 2014 True Strike

[serene jolt]

Yeah it's a 2014 game.

[fossil hollow]

it would still be Adv on your next turn though, innit?

[serene jolt]

If it was 2024, I don't think I would have gotten the Shortsword. 🤣

[serene jolt]

Nope, the description isn't the same as the title. It's just a sword that gives you adv every time you use it.

So if you have 5 attacks on one turn, you'll get advantage for all of them. It's a straight advantage.

[fossil hollow]

I mean, getting to cast a spell as a BA is pretty good, especially on a cleric. BA spirit Guardians or Bless, then other things

[serene jolt]

Yeah I do BA Bless and then attack in some way. Later I'll definitely be doing BA Spirits.

It was cool for the last combat. I did Bless and then Guiding Bolted the enemy.

I could do Spirit Guardians then Command the enemies to approach 🤣 That'd be so mean

[fossil hollow]

Approach + SG is pretty cool

[serene jolt]

I wish 2014 I could do that silly SG trick where you walk around in each enemies' space and they have to save. But sadly that's a 2024 thing.

[livid slate]

Do any of yall have a song that fits the said vibe:
It's a guy who is honestly a good guy bit is corrupted by a higher being into attacking the party because he thinks it's right, even though he doesn't want to
Like a theme that is melancholic boss fight thing

[livid slate]

(I was thinking of finding a remix of a battle against a true hero)

[fossil hollow]

Coronial Radiance, Immolation of the Heavens

both by Hoyomix

[serene jolt]

A song with lyrics I can see "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid".

But I can see that song in a lot of contexts.

[livid slate]

1 is too chill the second is too mad ;-;

[livid slate]

No lyrics sorry, Id prefer just a song

[serene jolt]

Fair

[glacial breach]

Hello my friends I have a question for you. What would a group of dragons be called a flock a herd or a scourge

[serene jolt]

I call dragons a flock

[fossil hollow]

Guardian Arkveld theme

[glacial breach]

What would be the proper name for a group of dragons?

[worn lagoon]

almost crying of joy, the party i'm dming is having a proper sorcadin joining so they'll finally see more than 20 damage a turn combined

[fossil hollow]

Breathing, Flight, Wing, Clutch, are the common terms

[main maple]

I love dnd even though I’ve never played

[empty thicket]

its good, mostly a good community to pick

[livid slate]

Ok and does anyone have a vibe like the winner takes it all song for a boss ending?

[worn lagoon]

somewhere over the rainbow 👍

[hot marlin]

There wouldn't be a word for that. Cultures develop words relating to their experiences. Like how inuits have a lot of different words for snow, you know? Any culture that would have been subjected to dragons acting as a group multiple times would never have survived long enough to make a word for it

I would simply call it a "hide and pray"

[prime pewter]

I'm going to be playing an Aarakocra Necromancer. He's a Vulture. How should I flavor his spells?

(Like ideas for concepts)

Prolly bones, lots and lots of bones

[worn lagoon]

i gave my necromancer a crow familiar. fits the vibe, and super useful.

find familiar's a must

[prime pewter]

I was gonna give him a rat familiar

[worn lagoon]

that also works

crow, rat, snake, they all fit

[prime pewter]

I was gonna ask my dm if I could have a crawling claw as a familiar

[fossil hollow]

so yeah, did some looking around:

• Guardian Arkveld theme
• Ellegy of Netherwing
• Sunslayer
• Afterglow in Dust
• Infernal Blaze

[feral fulcrum]

A hoard of dragons.

[prime pewter]

(Its CR 0 with nothing interesting besides being flavorful)

[worn lagoon]

ask your dm if you can use the unearthed arcana 2025 necromancer and then you get find familiar for free and can use it to get a skeleton or zombie familiar at lv3

[livid slate]

You play a lot of hoyoverse huh

[prime pewter]

Ima do that :3

[fossil hollow]

Only HSR, but im retired. Much like Guilty Gear though, i firmly believe both are music companies that also happen to make games

[livid slate]

Fair

[fossil hollow]

... wait, Arknights should have a lot of those themes.

ugh, too many songs, forgot how much they make

anyway, back to Isaak Wolf

[feral fulcrum]

Looks at their frequently used song Our Own Heart, Clear, and Serene Hand, Like Raging Flames. Gundam has had some great music.

[prime pewter]

Okay so I asked my brother and he said I should stick with 2014 and just have a cat reflavored as a skeleton

Like a skeleton cat

[prime pewter]

I have looked at it, and it looks really cool tho!!

[feral fulcrum]

A squirrel knight should right it. In search of the Great Acorn.

[fossil hollow]

Oooh, Gundam is also a good one. Three Times the Passion of Ordinary Flamenco lives rent free in my mind

[prime pewter]

First time playing anything other than warlock

[fossil hollow]

Also Six Times the Passion of Ordinary Flamenco, because they apparently needed to multiply it by twice more

[main maple]

What’s the vibes of someone irl that plays warlock

[undone rain]

Ilmater sounds like a chill god ngl

[fossil hollow]

too varied.

[undone rain]

Definetly a perfect deity to choose for a lawful good cleric

[hot marlin]

Chill is a strange word to use for the god of martyrs

[feral fulcrum]

He's a pretty intense god.

[naive cedar]

tyr is also good for lawful good clerics

[minor hill]

Just curious wonder if this has ever happened lol. Just rolled a triple nat 1 XD. intimidation check with advantage and guidance, three 1s 😂

[woven flint]

Ilmater is a being that suffers for other beings
That's pretty metal

[jade hatch]

Yeah it's a very customizable class, you can make vastly different warlocks from someone else

[woven flint]

I have an idea for an Orc or Goliath Cleric of Ilmater because I feel like his followers would be those who ENDURE

[sand flower]

Is there an innocuous wild animal with decent mental stats? I was thinking of polymorphing an ally into an animal to disguise them while we were wanted by the church, but polymorph makes you as dumb as the animal you turn into and I'd like to mitigate that as much as I reasonably can.

[woven flint]

2014 or 2024?

[sand flower]

2024

[woven flint]

Well, you also have to consider that they retain personality even as a beast

So, if your friend was cautious or is aware of what's going on, I think they'd retain that
It's not like beasts are completely stupid lol

Could just turn them into a spider or something small and carry them with you if you're worried about that reduced Intelligence, I suppose

[lucid oyster]

Does anyone have any suggestions/tips on sprucing up battlemaps for dry-erase mats? Currently I have one and it's really nice! But I feel like it's lacking a bit in terms of visual aid. Most of the time I scribble on it to show the general terrain, but I feel like it's not as good as having something like a printed out battlemap that has little details like crates, bags, etc., basically clutter. I know imagination is key for things but I want to add some helpers for the players (since a lot of them are new). Maybe I could do something like, add some beads/pebbles/etc. to represent mundane items, and players that interact with it can come up with something they think would fit in the area they're in?

[still plover]

Print and laminate tokens for terrain and furniture. Use a bit of blu-tac or similar to stick them onto the battlemap.

[lucid oyster]

Oooh great idea, thanks!

[bleak phoenix]

Heyyy

[still plover]

If you really want to be cunning, make them double sided.

Treasure chest, intact or broken. Tree with leaves or bare branches. Sections of wall in intact and ruined versions.

[bleak phoenix]

I'm new here

[woven flint]

Welcome to the server :>

[bleak phoenix]

Thanks..

I'm adrian

[woven flint]

I'm Tokii :p

[bleak phoenix]

Nice to meet you

[woven flint]

You too, friend :>

[bleak phoenix]

Mhm

You know,im actually a good friend with someone here that I haven't talked to in months

[woven flint]

Hopefully you get to talk to them again soon

[bleak phoenix]

I texted him actually and im waiting for him to reply

[tawdry sentinel]

Printable heroes does terrain that you can run off on a normal printer and stick it together with pritt stick.

There's also a YouTube called crooked staff terrain which does slightly fancier stuff but it's a bit more effort.

In terms of scatter that is good to have, I use pillars and trees far more than any of the other stuff I have. I feel crates and barrels are mostly gonna be up against a wall, slightly reshaping the room. Whereas pillars, trees, and rocks are more middle of arena scattery.

[woven flint]

I'm waiting for

A few hours
Gonna play more of my Tabaxi Thief Rogue, Lockpick, tonight

[bleak phoenix]

Ohh

I'm waiting for Carter to see my message

[harsh dragon]

Are there any resources on the web that teach tactics for D&D combat encounters?

[ancient siren]

Honestly...Baldurs Gate 3

Downloading Divinity 2 rn

[hidden spindle]

Watching live shows help

[ancient siren]

True

[bleak phoenix]

Does anyone know what Carter is doing?

[loud tendon]

no one know who Carter is.. there are 10's of thousands of members on this server.
if you know this person, contact them via DM or phone.

[silk hare]

who is that

[bleak phoenix]

Someone in the server

[silk hare]

bruh

[bleak phoenix]

What?

[hot marlin]

Check Keith Amman. Google the guy

[indigo peak]

I just bought a starter set from micro center idk how to play but I want to with friends can anyone teach me?

[hushed ether]

I can teach you, if you wish, I'm an bit of an noob myself, and I may get some things wrong, but I can help.

[craggy summit]

There's some starter links in #dnd-newcomers I'll have the bot post them

[indigo peak]

Sure

[craggy summit]

#dnd-newcomers message check these out

[indigo peak]

Ok thx bro

[hot reef]

No

[hot marlin]

This server has just shy of seventy thousand online people. That's just the ones who are currently online right now

[lost ice]

everyone out of 70000 people online is gonna answer now whether they know Carter XD

[bleak phoenix]

I hope he sees my message

[jagged vigil]

Session last night went great! Party just stole a giant spelljammer barge from the City of Brass, teleported it to the Calim Desert where they had an army waiting to sack the ship, and are about to take on the Efreeti they've been warring with on the main deck

[hot marlin]

If you want to communicate with one person in particular, send them a DM.

[craggy summit]

You oughta just text Carter yourself, the messages will get buried here

[idle oar]

Please get back on topic - D&D is the topic

[hushed ether]

yeah they'll prob explain it better then I can, although sometimes the rules can be an bit hard, ask me if you have any further questions!

[cosmic roost]

https://media-waterdeep.cursecdn.com/attachments/0/828/c2-16.png

[idle oar]

Back to D&D please

[craggy summit]

Steering us on topic, is it silly to play a draconic bloodline sorcerer as a dragonborn? How would y'all flavor it

[hot marlin]

Why would it be silly? It kinda writes itself

[valid geyser]

Not at all. It’s a pretty common class combination

[hot marlin]

In fact another bloodline on a dragonborn seems much more at risk of being silly

[royal pasture]

Can someone tell me how I can share my dnd beyond character, just to get peoples opinions on if I did a good job with my first one 😅

[harsh dragon]

I'm looking for resources that teach tactics to players, not DMs

[hidden spindle]

Dragonborn: "I feel the power of Dragons in my blood."

[craggy summit]

Idk if I'd do like 75% dragon 25% humanoid or a dragon that's two different colors 🤔

[hot marlin]

He also did that.

[idle oar]

#character-discussion awaits

[royal pasture]

Thanks!

[harsh dragon]

Because I have a player who seems to have zero instinct for tactical combat

[lost ice]

I think dragonborn on their own are related to dragons very thinly in that they lost Dragon creature type and the tail and wings so to be additionaly a draconic sorcerer is to reconnect with lost roots

[umbral girder]

Also they are aliens form another world

Shoutout to the dudes in Abeir fighting for their life now that their planet is sinking into darkness

[lost ice]

more like alt-people from the parallel world

[lucid oyster]

OOHH I like that a lot!!!!! Thank you!

[lucid oyster]

This is super helpful, appreciate it!!! Thank you!

[blissful ibex]

have them play a Mystery Dungeon or Grid Tactics game

Alina of the Arena is a solid roguelike Deckbilder which is good for learning grid movement, positioning, and sequencing :3

Roguelike/lites are a good genre to learn in because you're generally exposed to several different strategies of play which also helps in learning what to expect from The different archetypal positions in combat

[buoyant oar]

Dragonborn from the realms are a servant species created specifically to serve dragons. They didn't care for this very much and attempted to rebel. The closest they got to victory against their dragon masters was Tymanchebar.

Sucks that Tymanchebar was whisked away to Toril during the spellplauge. Those left behind were quickly taken back over by the evil dragon Empress of Laerakond. Those that went to Faerûn founded Tymanther and would proceed to have the worst time.

[hearty umbra]

Does anyone know any good servers for finding online groups? I was in one where players and DMs could make posts advertising their games but it seems that I'm no longer in it for some reason.

[spark finch]

I was wondering the same thing

[loud tendon]

please check out #find-a-game to discover how our Looking-for channels work.

[main zodiac]

so... is any dm around here looking for one guy to fill in an empty player slot for a game soon?

i want to play a session before the weekend is over

i know about find a game but i cant sort by how soon they start

[loud tendon]

we only allow group solicitation/formation in our looking for channels.

have you checked #looking-for-players ?

[livid cargo]

The anatomy of a centaur baffles me

[main zodiac]

yeah and they all started an hour ago at best

[livid cargo]

Like where are the lungs of a centaur located?

How long is the esophagus of a centaur?

[main zodiac]

unless someone reaches out to them and they say "oh yeah bring them in" i dont have a chance (sorry for interupting kitsune)

[still plover]

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[worn lagoon]

my paladin who's gonna play above lv2 for the first time in her life rolled a total of 86 in stats

crazy statline, 14/18/14/11/13/18

it let her fulfill her rp of an unarmored paladin too, that's 19 ac while naked

[burnt valley]

Form of Dread blogs

[blissful ibex]

Oath of Noble Genies is such a nice subclass

[worn lagoon]

nope it's watchers

13 base with mage armor +4 dex +2 shield

who needs a genie when you can just be a very nimble lion man with shadow sorcery powers

[undone rain]

Thats as much ac i have with plate my gooood

[worn lagoon]

very, very nimble leonin paladin

he can't even wear heavy armor, the first level is in sorcerer (split is 3 shadow sorc/5 watchers pld/1 hexblade warlock)

[ebon silo]

I smell oath of the genie paladin coming up

[worn lagoon]

genie would only bring it to 20 ac i think

[severe rampart]

Guy is multiclassing?

[worn lagoon]

yeah

[blissful ibex]

would max out at at level 8 w/ 22 though; +5 Dex +5 Wis and Shield, assuming no feats/magic items

[worn lagoon]

she wanted something to reflect the shadowy powers of his god, so i helped her

sorcadin's cool, and using charisma for melee is also cool, and rpwise our fiendlock has a totally normal talking sword to gift him :3

[severe rampart]

How many Divine Smites can she do

[worn lagoon]

10 before any short rests

[severe rampart]

can she stack any of them

[feral rampart]

Is it a known issue for the cult of the dragon initiate feat on dnd beyond not giving you the draconic language when it specifically says it does?

[woven flint]

Yeah, you'll just have to add it manually

[feral rampart]

God this website is weird sometimes

[worn lagoon]

according to 2014 wording i don't see why she couldn't use booming blade and a divine smite in the same hit

[severe rampart]

Can she beat Tarkus

[worn lagoon]

"can a nuclear bomb beat a coughing baby"

[severe rampart]

Evren, there's a very real chance one person in the party dies if we fight guy

[worn lagoon]

oh yeah. absolutely. totally.

i mean he had my help and you know me

[severe rampart]

Hopefully one of my thousands of utility spells can solve this

[woven flint]

Hopefully ye all perish

:]]

[severe rampart]

Baphomet is gonna die

[worn lagoon]

Have you considered that talking some sense into a paladin who thinks you're a devil's thrall might make him stand down?

[severe rampart]

Diplomacy? whaaattt

[worn lagoon]

This is my ultimatum. Either rp your way out of the situation, or face the wrath of a moderately-optimized sorcadin.

[severe rampart]

how about I polymorph a horse and forcefeed it to the paladin

[halcyon bison]

"I'm so hungry..."

[worn lagoon]

...It wouldn't even be the first time you polymorphed a party member and fed it to something.

[severe rampart]

I hate how funny you are

[severe rampart]

HEY, It worked

[worn lagoon]

lmaooo

[severe rampart]

also it's been 3 weeks can my character have the long rest now

they've been at 39 hp for a long time in game

[main maple]

I love you dnd

[crimson gulch]

3 weeks per long rest is good, these dungeons take time to crawl

[severe rampart]

I meant it's been 3 weeks since our last session, when it ended initially I asked if we should long rest, but he said we weren't out of the cellar yet, so not yet

[crimson gulch]

AH, I assumed 3 weeks worth of sessions

[severe rampart]

no worries! but I am excited for next session, we're about to meet our party member, and we're gonna initially start by fighting them (since they think we're associated with fiends)

[worn lagoon]

please just talk your way out of that, he could kill you all effortlessly alone

[severe rampart]

OR... I could... uh...

[woven flint]

Cast Darkness on him and jump him

[severe rampart]

I could cast blindness

[woven flint]

... On a Paladin?

[severe rampart]

... Leonin Paladin

[worn lagoon]

this shadow sorcerer can see through that

[severe rampart]

what a colorful group, Dragonborn Barbarian, Human Fighter, Changeling Bard, Dragonborn Cleric, and Leonin Paladin

[worn lagoon]

he got 3 levels of shadow sorc and starts combat with darkness

[severe rampart]

oh my god...

[woven flint]

Sounds painfully boring /half-joking
I like diversity with party species
Literally only one of the parties I'm in has characters of the same species lol

[severe rampart]

the dragonborns are flirting with each other

[woven flint]

My own current characters are

Tabaxi
Bugbear
Harengon
Tortle
Dragonborn
Drow
Warforged

[severe rampart]

let me see...

Changeling
Changeling
Drow
Human
Human
"Human"

[woven flint]

Blink

I'm sorry, I could never enjoy playing a human character lol

[severe rampart]

I find humans delightful

[woven flint]

I find them...
Bland
I play D&D to NOT be a human lol

[worn lagoon]

I would definitely play an old demented human wizard who i set up to die

[blissful ibex]

That I have stat sheets for?
'kobold' Plasmoid Druid/Lock
Wood Elf Bard/Lock
Tiefling Paladin
Tabaxi Rogue (a classic)
Kenku (Alchemist Artificer)
Dragonborn (Transmutation Wizard)

That I play?
Mostly just the Plasmoid XD

[worn lagoon]

His stats would get worse as he levels up, and not long after he remembers all his high-level spells he just dies of exertion

[woven flint]

I'm probably gonna play another Sahuagin soon because I enjoyed playing one in a level 17 oneshot I was in last night

[severe rampart]

oh that I've got sheets for?

Tiefling
Wood Elf
Dragonborn
Eladrin

I've had to bury a lot of my characters due to bad campaigns

Rest in piece Silas, Azaez, and the characters i forgot the names of

[worn lagoon]

never buried a character
i just rehoused both

[severe rampart]

Silas is dead to me

I can't believe a ranger could actually be a good character

[woven flint]

Only three of my characters have died
Two to Liches.
One.. Died but was revived

[severe rampart]

Revived how? are they an undead now?

[woven flint]

No..?
With a revival spell... like Revivify.

[blissful ibex]

or raise dead, reincarnate, true reincarnation, etc.

[woven flint]

No, he was revived with Revivify is what I mean lmao

[worn lagoon]

oh yeah, echo, i'm giving you a reincarnate scroll.

[blissful ibex]

good ol revivify

[severe rampart]

My character has 12 intelligence

Let us suffer the consequences of our actions

[blissful ibex]

It's incredibly funny because my plasmoid can eventually cast reincarnate but is not a valid target for it herself XD

she's not a humanoid

[woven flint]

The two characters that died to liches were
An Earth Genasi Noble Genies Paladin (Died defending the party)
and
An Aaracokra Warlock (Used his ring of Three wishes to create a black hole that killed him, the lich and destoyed the Liches research and Phylactry.. and castle lol)

[severe rampart]

Hah! my changeling as well

are spells with material components affected by inflation?

[woven flint]

Depends on DM, but generally, no?

[blissful ibex]

the GP cost is more to ensure a specific quality and or quantity of matierial IIRC

like if you could print literally perfect diamonds like we can here in the modern world, they'd likely pass for most spells easily enough

[worn lagoon]

only for withers, apparently. he still charges 200g for true resurrection which is 25k today.

[severe rampart]

Why am I even asking, my party is dirt broke

most likely we'll just beg or steal from the innkeeper

[worn lagoon]

i hid, so many, diamonds in that cellar

[lone isle]

Helloooo

[severe rampart]

We thought they were mushrooms

[blissful ibex]

is this the avernus campaign where you're literally one session in? or was that someone else

[worn lagoon]

the mushrooms aren't the same thing... you literally never found one.

[severe rampart]

Yes

[timber turtle]

would you rather have duergar or drow as your villains in a dnd campaign?

[severe rampart]

also one of them was right next to a shadowy figure

[blissful ibex]

you're not broke if it's only been one session XD
you just literally have not had a chance to earn money yet

[worn lagoon]

He's a friend.

[woven flint]

Duergar, they're underutilized.

[severe rampart]

I beg to differ, our berserker had to get a job as a toilet scrubber

[woven flint]

Also, Duergar are a bit more compelling as to why they are the way they are

I like the Drow, but they're overused

[severe rampart]

well you already told us now so we can't metagame 😔

[blissful ibex]

Kender /j

[hot marlin]

Depends! Which duergar and which drow?

[severe rampart]

I wonder how Incubus replies to the "Glass is half full half empty" thing

[woven flint]

Also, from my understanding
Duergar aren't incredibly Xenophobic so they COULD possibly form alliances with other creatures a bit more easily? Lol

[severe rampart]

I'm sure it'll surprise us

[worn lagoon]

just wrote a wall of text to justify my sorcerer going divine soul overnight bc our cleric's MIA

[woven flint]

I'd honestly just be like

"Hey, our Clerics a bum.. can I take over their duties?"

[worn lagoon]

He's not very religious. Just respects Mystra and Kereska the most among the gods the same way a bread enthusiast respects a skilled baker.

A believer, just not to a cleric extent

[woven flint]

A Cleric that respects Mystra deserves to be executed

Or, if it's your character
....
Ew. /half-joking

[undone rain]

Execution by fireball

[worn lagoon]

Of course not. I would never be caught playing a cleric.

[woven flint]

I can't wait for someone to kill Mystra... again.

[worn lagoon]

Unless it's 5 gloomstalker 4 fighter 1 war cleric

[blissful ibex]

Druid > Cleric c:

[woven flint]

For me
Druid = Cleric
In terms of how much I like them

[undone rain]

My goat ilmater would never die like her

[worn lagoon]

I disagree, but honestly neither wisdom caster's my thing

[woven flint]

Exactly, Ilmater is love, Ilmater is life

[worn lagoon]

my now-divine-soul's just getting a dream visit from bahamut's court of gold dragons

[woven flint]

Mystra died to CYRIC once for crying out loud

CYRIC

[blissful ibex]

cleris is genrally the better pick numbers wise but druid has more range in utility and the exploration pillar

[undone rain]

Only time he would die is to sacrifice himself

[woven flint]

I'm not a fan of Charisma classes tbh

I prefer my Wisdom or Intelligence individuals

[halcyon bison]

I like charisma because talk good

[worn lagoon]

The one time I played a non-charisma character I still ended up putting 14 to charisma because I like rping my way through situations and it helps

[blissful ibex]

I like bard but I loathe the social pillar >.>

[halcyon bison]

yeah I rarely dump charisma

[woven flint]

My Warlock is my only Charisma character atm

He's a Celestial Warlock though, so he has pseudo-cleric feels

[blissful ibex]

so I'll just stick with my silly Druid/Lock who's sole CHA skill prof is Performance

[halcyon bison]

I don't want to feel like I can't contribute to coversations because I have no charisma

[worn lagoon]

I don't enjoy DnD if all we do is explore and kill things. Talking is half the fun for me, so imagine my level of anger when my rp is interrupted by a party member's thrown axe flying overhead

[undone rain]

I love to be charisma class but that was obvious

[woven flint]

I've played every class at LEAST once
And I like
Sorcerers, Warlocks and Paladins
But I'd rather not play any of them unless the party is lacking a Charisma character..
Which isn't often

Bards bore me to the umpth extent, but I'd play a Valor Bard for sure

[blissful ibex]

see, I sit back and let the social pillar enjoyers mainly handle the social pillar unless there's open calls for insight or which ever checks or i have another angle to try or something

more at home in the Exploration Pillar, hence my preference for wisdom classes

[worn lagoon]

I would like to play a swords bard archer

[undone rain]

My partys poor bard keeps almost dyin

[woven flint]

Good.

[worn lagoon]

I like how swords bard RAW doesn't specify a weapon type so I can be a fulltime archer as a swords bard

[undone rain]

He literally walked up to a buffed basilisk, only wielding a rapier and got absoloutley wrecked. His ac is barely 11

[blissful ibex]

Valor bard with 2 levels of warlock for Eldritch Blast / Agonizing Blast and maybe Pact of the Blade + Improved Pact is fun c:

[still plover]

The fighter can't offer tactical observations? The wizard can't present their deductions? Pssh.

Folk who say "I've got Charisma 8 so I shouldn't talk" are making excuses for not taking part.

[woven flint]

Hmmm..
Funnily enough, back to my characters that have died
All three were Charisma classes
Paladin, Warlock (though he became a Sorcerer after defeating his Patron)
And a Bard (the fellow who was revived)

[halcyon bison]

Of couse I can do those things, but a DM might call for a charisma check regardless of my class :(

[still plover]

To what? Persuade someone who might have reasonable objections to what you want? Sure!

But that never means you can't talk.

[undone rain]

Im thinkin of multiclassing my paladin into warlock. Considering the man got a cursed greatsword with some powerful soul trapped inside he might as well have it as his patron (i also need more ranged spells)

[severe rampart]

would that be better than being a Ranger...?

actually, what am I talking about, Bards get magical secrets

[woven flint]

Honestly, I like using different ability scores for things

Make a Logical Argument?
Intelligence Persuasion

Other things too, but ...

Ability checks shouldn't be locked to certain Ability scores if you're able to present a case as to why you use a different score... for the situation.
so long as it's logistical !

[worn lagoon]

maybe

[blissful ibex]

Can't take ranger, paladin, or warlock spells though

[exotic sinew]

This is probably a dumb question but I am going to be playing a ranger in my upcoming campaign. I have a long bow a scimitar and a short sword. So in combat should I make my priority to target combatants at range with the longbow and only use the scimitar (I have mastery with it so have nic to use the short sword as well.) when I get combatants rush me in close quarters

[worn lagoon]

you're a full caster with a good spell list who can shoot two arrows in one attack

[woven flint]

Rangers aren't full-casters

[worn lagoon]

BARD.

[exotic sinew]

Like I guess I am asking how should i approach combats as a ranger cause I have no experience playing a ranger

[severe rampart]

Bards

[woven flint]

My mistake original gangster 🧐

[blissful ibex]

If far, shoot with the bow
otherwise keep weapon master on the shortsword and scimmy for vex+nick shenanigans

[severe rampart]

I really should try getting into other classes, the first time I played Warlock I realized why they kept spamming eldritch blasts, they have quite literally nonexistent spell slots

[worn lagoon]

not many ranger spells 2024 bard can't get through MS druid anyway
most importantly you get chad spike growth my beloved

[halcyon bison]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!
I think 2024 makes a slightly better point about this but I would still like it mentioned more in the rules

[worn lagoon]

spike growth's so cool it makes the loss of hadar slightly less upsetting

[exotic sinew]

So don’t have mastery on the longbow?

[wanton sorrel]

ah, just finished up hellfire club all in one sitting.... phew i'm tired out now x'D

[blissful ibex]

slow is kind of meh for a mastery, would recomend keeping it on the melee weapons so you have more stopping power close up, but can still dish out damage from range

Shortsword's vex gives you advantage on your next attack until the end of your next turn against that enemy if you hit
and the Scimitar's Nick property lets you do the bonus attack from the light propery as part of the attack action instead of it eating a bonus action

that way, from level 5 you can:

Attack 1:

• Uses Short Sword
• Gain vex advantage on hit

Attack 2:

• Uses Short Sword
• Has Advantage if Attack 1 hit
• Gain Vex Advantage on Hit

Attack 3:

• Uses Scimitar
• Uses Nick mastery to make the light weapon attack as part of the attack action
• Has advantage if Attack 2 hit
• If you have two-weapon fighting this adds your dex mod to the damage

you can also make a 4th attack with the scimitar as a bonus action if you take dual wielder at level 4

[halcyon bison]

This combo also works pretty well with rogue, especially the advantage part

[blissful ibex]

also solid on ranger with Hunter's Mark
each hit does an extra 1d6 force for a potential 3~4d6 extra force damage per turn

[exotic sinew]

So can you only make an off hand attack as a bonus action if you have the dual welder feat

[blissful ibex]

without the nick property, you have to make the light weapon attack as a bonus action
nick lets you make it as part of taking the attack action instead

completely seperate from that, dual wielder lets you make an entirely seperate bonus action attack for having attacked with a weapon with the light property, but this is not sped up by nick

taken together, this gets you 4 attacks per turn

Attack Action:

Attack 1:

• Use Short Sword
• Gain vex advantage on hit

Attack 2:

• Uses Short Sword
• Has Advantage if Attack 1 hit
• Gain Vex Advantage on Hit

Attack 3:

• Uses Scimitar
• Uses Nick mastery to make the light weapon attack as part of the attack action
• Has advantage if Attack 2 hit
• If you have two-weapon fighting this adds your dex mod to the damage

*** Bonus Action***:
Attack 4:

• Uses Scimitar
• Made due to Dual Wielder feat; does not add dex modifier to damage even with two-weapon fighting

Nick Property: https://www.dndbeyond.com/equipment/29-scimitar
Vex Property: https://www.dndbeyond.com/equipment/30-shortsword
Drawing/Stowing Weapons during the attack action: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#AttackAction
Two-Weapon Fighting: https://www.dndbeyond.com/feats/1789207-two-weapon-fighting
Dual Wielder Feat: PHB 2024, page 203

[exotic sinew]

That’s only if you have extra attack though

We are starting at level 1 cause we are doing the Wild beyond the Witchlight

[blissful ibex]

so 2 attacks per turn to start with
going to 3 at level 4, then 4 at level 5

[halcyon bison]

The ability to have a bonus action attack is baked into light weapons, but the dual wielder feat lets you specifically stack it with nick and use non-light weapons (someone double check me on this please)

[blissful ibex]

nick makes the light weapon attack not use the bonus action, so you then have it to use for dual wielder instead

[halcyon bison]

I hear people talking about dual wielding in 2024 being nerfed but it seems like it's been buffed to me, with nick weapon mastery and all.
The dual wielder feat might be a little worse I guess but it really depends on your build

[exotic sinew]

So if you make a bonus action attack with a scimitar does that mean that you cannot also make a second attack with that bonus action with nick?

[keen kestrel]

the first bonus action attack gets rolled into the main attack, then if you have the dual wielder feat you can make an actual bonus action attack

[blissful ibex]

it's a half ASI that basically gets you an extra attack if your're built for it; they just moved some of the benefit off the feat itself onto the weapons

[blissful ibex]

nick does not use the bonus action

When you make the extra attack of the Light property, you can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.

[keen kestrel]

the feat isn't AS strong since you don't necessarily need it, but a 4th attack is pretty nice for builds that want to take advantage of as many attacks as possible from drs effects

I'm playing a genie paladin and did in fact take it, but it both fits his style and works super nice with things like divine favor (and conjure minor elementals if we ever get there)

[exotic sinew]

But like at level 1 when I only have main hand attack and off hand attack.

If I use short sword for main hand attack to get advantage on my next attack

Use my off hand (bonus action) attack with scimitar can I then make another attack with nick using the short sword or is that not how it works

[keen kestrel]

so you can only make two attacks at that point, and both of them are part of one action

nick rolls the bonus action into the action, but specifies that you can't make another attack with the now freed up bonus action

[exotic sinew]

So I should use my bonus action attack with the short sword first and then use my main action for Nick???

[keen kestrel]

dual wielder functionally states that you can now use that freed up bonus action to make a bonus action attack even if you use the nick property