dnd-discussion

[umbral girder]

It’s still 5e, so the same rule applies. If it hasn’t been updated you can still use it as is.

Just is the same when the SCAG stuff was put in Xanathar’s and Tasha’s

Or with Volo’s and Tome of Foes in Monsters of the Multiverse

[hidden spindle]

Nealen is correct

[umbral girder]

Same song and dance for a decade.

[reef copper]

idk it feels wierd that you need to read 14 because they did not remake it, did 24 not add spells in the book for the same reason?

[umbral girder]

Most likely. Or just made better to play versions.

Like how Befuddlement is a more fun way to deal with Feeblemind.

[umbral girder]

It’s always been that way.

Before even 2024 books came out.

[reef copper]

4e was not compatible with 5e

[woven flint]

Nobody said it was lol

[buoyant oar]

While the volos stuff still technically exists, VGtM and MToF were explicitly tagged as being superseded by the newer option. And moved out of print and taken off of the DDB webstore for future purchases, with the release of MPMotM. Unlike say, Tasha's Soul Knife Rogue, and PHB 5e Revised Soul Knife Rogue

[hidden spindle]

'14 5e and '24 5e are the same: 5e

[umbral girder]

Yet a lot of it was converted. The DMG variant rules are just 4e mechanics

[timid current]

Converted yes, compatible, no

[reef copper]

so where is it in 24 then?

[umbral girder]

It’s still 5e

Just because it’s not reprinted doesn’t make it part of 5e

[buoyant oar]

The revised rule set is still missing some things for me to consider it complete. The lack of downtime rules outside of Bastions is a bummer.

[reef copper]

I just think its wierd to make a remake and then not do it fully and instead say its backwards compatible eventhough you changed a lot of them, can i just take the buffed verition of a boon why should i take the bad one

[hot gate]

"Don't pick things that have been reprinted", done

[buoyant oar]

Most of the reason for the 5e Refresh felt less like a needed change, and more like a "We need something big for the 50th"

[hidden spindle]

No one's stopping you. Play however you like

[buoyant oar]

I like the changes over all, I will clarify.

[reef copper]

24 did good changes dont get me wrong, but i still think they buffed to much but left casters behind a lot besides circle casting

[buoyant oar]

Casters needed a bit of a knee caping tbh

[umbral girder]

And they still got useful things.

[atomic kayak]

Because thats not what the rules actually say

[buoyant oar]

Yep Buffs are good. Nerfs are also good. Just raising the floor and not lowering the ceiling is how Power Creep sets in.

[umbral girder]

Like the new spellcasting rules opens up to more schenanigans, Druids and Bards can spam their abilities more often. Sorcerer gets spells. Etc

[atomic kayak]

You use the 2024 rules and only if something hasn't been reprinted do you use the 2014 version.

[hidden spindle]

Rangers can swap Spells over a Long Rest. Paladin pulled back to one Spell at Long Rest

[hollow stone]

bring back magical and non magical damage and then make like 60% of monsters resistant to magical damage lmfaooo

[hidden spindle]

Now you're cooking

[atomic kayak]

Admittedly the power creep in 5e has always sorta been. Nonexistent. What with a lot of ""the best"" things being from the 2014 PHB lol.

Quality of life on the other hand however

[reef copper]

spell switching did change and is a buff, but that i dislike for other reasons

[buoyant oar]

Yea, I had to spend some time explaining to a 2014 cleric that since this is a 2024 game they have to use the 2024 version of Spiritual Weapon.

[uncut aurora]

How to make a looking for dm post

[buoyant oar]

This is why from then on my games are 2024 only.

[atomic kayak]

Those still exist, the distinction just doesnt matter (much)

[hollow stone]

dude, my poor DM, she's been playing for a while, right? she remembers rules from 3.5E and occasionally implements them on accident lmao

[wanton sorrel]

I wonder if people aruged on 4e and the 4.5e back in the days......

[buoyant oar]

4.5 E did not exist

[umbral girder]

There is a command in #find-a-game you type out

[reef copper]

4e was probably the most argued edition

[glad arch]

Ive heard a lot of fun stuff about 4e

[atomic kayak]

Different reasons

[buoyant oar]

As for 3e vs v3.5

Base 3e sucked so bad it was less than 5 years before the refresh happened.

[hollow stone]

we get 4e rules, 3.5e rules, 5e rules, she's gotten better about 2024 but damn that's a lot of remembering

[glad arch]

5 years is quite a while tbf

[willow fossil]

I’m not sure I agree with this. I’m fairly confident in saying that most of the content published after Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything is significantly stronger than the stuff that came before it. Custom Lineage, Twilight Cleric, Fey Touched Feat, etc

[atomic kayak]

Also if we are actually being honest, the 2024 rules for 5e didn't actually change a lot of the actual rules

Classes changed fairly significantly sure. But the base rules of the system? Many were a copy paste, many more were "the same but more clear"

[wanton sorrel]

wow are you all sure i can't just make a peacefull roll let's bygons be bygons... and say all editions are super good?

[willow fossil]

100% agreed on this

[atomic kayak]

Yesno

Powercreep implies that (for lack of a better term) the ceiling got higher. The ceiling didn't really get (much) higher, but it made it easier to create a higher floor (aforementioned quality of life being a factor).

[buoyant oar]

Sorry it was less than 5 years. New PHB MM and DMG 3 years in

[naive cedar]

3e is alright but 3.5e is so much better in every way

[atomic kayak]

(related)
The difference between 3.0 and 3.5 vs 5e and what people call 5.5 is so huge its hilarious

[willow fossil]

Well my argument is that the ceiling did get noticeably higher. Though I guess the fact that it’s noticeable doesn’t automatically mean it’s that large of a quantity

[silk hare]

thats even worse, "having" / "you should" build a character depending on arbitrary character classifications I agree with/ found is still not an argument tbh

[buoyant oar]

Base Game was 3 years
AD&D 1e was 12 years
AD&D 2e was 11 years with a refresh 6 years in
3e was 3 years
v3.5 was 5 years
4e was 6 years
5e is 12 years with a refresh 10 years in

[wanton sorrel]

I think you mean OD&D to all the way to 5.5e

[buoyant oar]

Next year 5e will be the longest running edition of the game.

[naive cedar]

I think 4e was the shortest aside from 0

[buoyant oar]

If you don't separate 3e vs v3.5 considering those systems had massive changes in them

[atomic kayak]

Yea ill be honest its not that its not noticeable, its just (to pull a random number), only like 10% at best

The bigger thing with the post tashas everything and all that is simply that dnd had a very large influx of people around tashas due to world events™️ that resulted in more chatter and more people "realizing" ceilings and all that (despite a lot of similar levels being achievable beforehand)

[severe rampart]

What paint works well with cardboard? trying to find something to make my dnd game more visually appealing

[wanton sorrel]

isn't that late for that since 5.5e is now running?

[atomic kayak]

There was (for better or worse) a pretty large (online) community attitude shift around 2020, even if it was more subtle at first

[silk hare]

#dnd-arts-and-crafts

[crimson gulch]

its still 5e

[silk hare]

or #dnd-maps

ah sry, meant to reply to echo

[severe rampart]

I think you replied to the wrong guy there, lol

[silk hare]

yeh xD

[buoyant oar]

There is more in common with the 2024 revision of 5e as the 1995 2e revision.

[atomic kayak]

Its still 5e

Even the initial announcement of it back when it was under the codename for UAs of onednd it was announced as a revision of the 5e rules "you know and love", which simply put, is exactly what it is

[willow fossil]

There’s no such thing as 5.5e. That’s purely a fan term. The 2024 Core Rules are part of 5e

[atomic kayak]

As said ^

[wanton sorrel]

huh... i must of speak of fan terms x'D... so 2014 5e got rebooted to the 2024 5e

[atomic kayak]

A lot of the usage that I've personally seen of the term 5.5 has been from people (for better or worse, often worse) wanting to make the rules revision "mean more"™️ or make it into something it isn't

[atomic kayak]

(With some relation to this)

[hidden spindle]

Think of it as a patch

[silk hare]

tbh I mostly use it bc there ARE some distinctions as to how certain things work (or rather for character creation mostly as some stuff was remodeled there)

[buoyant oar]

I call it 5e Revised. Because 2024 might be easier to type but that is too many syllables to say in words and has bad mouth feel

[silk hare]

especially in terms of high power builds:

e.g. how MoP works in 2014 compared to 2024

[buoyant oar]

But it is not a v5.5

[wanton sorrel]

i always thought that if there were new rules as a different it would be a different version.

[buoyant oar]

Nope the 2e revision in 1995 disproves this

[silk hare]

unless they change more stuff and do a "real" 5.5e I dont really see an issue with calling it that

especially since, depending on context of course, some stuff DID change and distinguishing here is not an inherently bad thing imo

[wanton sorrel]

ok

[atomic kayak]

Or any time an edition has released a new rulebook that adds (or changes) to the base rules in significant ways

Which is every edition

[silk hare]

• since there is no "real" 5.5E people know what is meant by the usage of "5.5E"

[crimson gulch]

every edition of the game had multiplue sets of core books, this is no different

[buoyant oar]

Ehhhhh not really like that.

[atomic kayak]

Like I said, a lot of the usage i see of it is a (negative) attitude thing

[bronze bronze]

does dnd have novels to read up on lore?

[umbral girder]

Yes. Thousands

[buoyant oar]

4e PHB 2 DMG 2 and MMs 2 and 3 were not refreshes of the original but were more options. Not at all what the revised 5e is

[silk hare]

theres A LOT of lore

[buoyant oar]

3e never got the chance to put out more core books. v3.5 did not revise themselves.

[silk hare]

and different universes that are kind of semi or not linked depending on what you want to know/ play

[umbral girder]

Btw I read the 2024 update to the Protection Fighting style and wow it’s so much better???

[hidden spindle]

I often just distinguish right away: Are you aware/ using twenty-twenty-four rules?

[bronze bronze]

i see

[umbral girder]

Disadvantage on all attack rolls against your ally for the whole round is great!

[buoyant oar]

Really only 2e has done what 5e has done.

[silk hare]

the humble ST throw spells.....

[atomic kayak]

Oh sorry I wasnt just referring to those, just the "additional rulebooks that add onto or change things from the base rules"

Xanathars is an example from 5e that also changed (or added onto) the base rules quite a bit.

[timid anvil]

Biggest winner in the revised rules is True Strike

[hidden spindle]

I like revised Divine Smite

[silk hare]

at the very least its very high on the list yeh

[silver dock]

so im taking a third level in sorcerer instead of multiclassing, but idk how to use my fourth known spell. i would like to get Alter Self, but our cleric doesnt do his job, so we need healing. my other two options are Enhance Ability (mainly for bear) and Wither & Bloom.

[woven flint]

Nah, it's TOTALLY Assassin Rogue

[silk hare]

true strike 2014 is essentially unplayable

[umbral girder]

It went from “reaction before an attack roll to give disadvantage on an attack”
To “all attacks have disadvantage so long as the target is always 5ft of you.”

[woven flint]

Maybe talk to your cleric, mayhaps?

[silk hare]

what do you want out of this?

[umbral girder]

Bladesinger teaming up with a Fighter, Ranger, or Paladin would thrive in that.

[silk hare]

mechanically best, best "healing", funny spells?

[silver dock]

guidance on which spell to take

[buoyant oar]

You good, I was replying to Nat 40 saying this has happened every edition. When that is just incorrect.

[woven flint]

Last combat my cleric was in, he was 5 hp the whole time but constantly healing everyone else

[silk hare]

the guidance is entirely dependent on what you want from this, bc there ARE some clear cut better obtions

[umbral girder]

You could look at damage reduction stuff maybe?

[woven flint]

My poor Tortle lad was on the verge of death but he was more worried about the rest of his lads

[silk hare]

tbh imo healing is a waste unless you are already down , let me debuff the enemy instead

[hidden spindle]

Web.
Divine Soul: Prayer of Healing

[umbral girder]

Healing is rarely something you want in combat.

That’s what Short rests are for.

[woven flint]

We got fireballed really bad and almost EVERYONE was way below half HP

[silver dock]

pros and cons:

Alter Self
[+] i can progress my character's narrative
[-] no consistent source of hp

Enhance Ability
[+] more options, doesn't need to hurt something
[-] bear gives temp hp which doesnt stop death saves

Wither & Bloom
[+] necrotic damage fits my character, and it gives real hp
[-] must hurt something

[silk hare]

thats why you have sources of THP

or healing word as a BA when they ultimately go down

[atomic kayak]

I had said basically the same thing lol

[silk hare]

okay so you dont want guidance on GENERAL spells, but rather on which one of these 3 you should pick?

[atomic kayak]

^

[silver dock]

yeah from the three

[hidden spindle]

Between the 3: I like Alter Self

[woven flint]

Keeping your allies from going down in the first place is still completely viable
Dms COULD be cruel and attack downed characters twice and just straight up kill them.

[silk hare]

the only one without a real - is wither and bloom, since the "hurting sth" you would have hurt anyway in combat

[umbral girder]

How about Web? Stops melee guys from moving in close (or slows them down) and disadvantage for anyone tangled.

[silk hare]

thats what revivify is for 🤷

[hidden spindle]

Shang Tsung with Alter Self

[umbral girder]

Negating damage is a lot better than undoing damage after all.

[silver dock]

trueg.. also i can discriminate between targets for the damage

[woven flint]

My guy.
My Cleric is level 4.

[wanton sorrel]

cool

[silk hare]

gentle repose and save them until lvl up lol

[woven flint]

Okay

I'll just play my Clerics how I want, actually :p

[silk hare]

also depending on your dm he might hand out a scroll of revivify or sth

[hidden spindle]

Gentle Repose food too

[silk hare]

oh absolutely, I wasnt saying you cant, just that its not the best move imo

[woven flint]

Your opinion matters not to me /not to be rude

[silk hare]

upcasting e.g. command to give your allies a free turn during which they can heal themselves with a potion or attack the enemies and maybe even defeat them without you needing to heal them is just a better use imo

thats fair 🤷

[buoyant oar]

Whenever I see people casual about revivify I wonder what diamond kingdom they living in.

[woven flint]

You don't know the situation we were in so you can't say what the most viable option is anyway.

[silk hare]

its more of a :

most dms/ players want to keep the characters alive so there will be opportunites (maybe even as story hooks) for them to obtain diamonds

[umbral girder]

Considering how the DMG handles loot I can see why

[buoyant oar]

I know I cry Everytime I read it

[umbral girder]

Rolling up a treasure hoard “roughly every session” is a lot of loot

[woven flint]

Everyone below half hp, completely surrounded on all sides, everyone had to split up to fight different groups to actually hold ground, I think healing them and trying to keep them up was the right choice because if one person went down, we'd all be overwhelmed.

[silk hare]

I personally dont care too much about the characters bc I like creating new ones too, but there are people that would stay in a campaing/ drop it depending on if their character dies without a way to bring them back

[vagrant quartz]

i grow too attached to them

[silk hare]

both are fine, but just trying to emphasize where the "diamond kingdom" might be coming from lol

[vagrant quartz]

if my boy eric dies i'm building a shrine irl

[umbral girder]

Plane of Earth probably

[silk hare]

depending on the narrative death is not sth thats too relevant

[umbral girder]

It’s mostly gem stones and planes walking with casters or random portals are a thing after all

[silk hare]

altough I personally like more high stakes stuff

[buoyant oar]

I am usually a generous DM and will grant diamonds rarely in extreme deadly places.

I will never do it though if the character death is the result of character committing a stupid.

[umbral girder]

Also in FR Elminster and other Chosen of Mystra just run around restocking dungeons.

[bronze bronze]

which ttrpg systems have the best lore?

[vagrant quartz]

I am dead set on stockpiling as much gold as humanly possible to buy gemstones

[buoyant oar]

My DM answer to the player wanting infinite spell components.

"Out of stock."

[silk hare]

best in comparison to what?

[lyric viper]

This might be a better question for #non-dnd-topics if it's just about general TTRPGs!

[woven flint]

I think people need to realize that reviving someone isn't always an option and definitely shouldn't be

[bronze bronze]

ok

[woven flint]

An adventure should have stakes!!!

[hidden spindle]

Souls can refuse revival spells

[woven flint]

If you're saving the universe fron Lord Murder Death, you should fear for your life

[snow zephyr]

A lich can just eat your soul

[woven flint]

Only revivify.

And reincarnate, I believe

[vagrant quartz]

Soul chips, when the bag is filled with only "air" but you ain't mad about it

[snow zephyr]

Soul's still gotta be available to receive calls

[woven flint]

Or there could just be a situation where you either die trying to revive someone or get the hell outta there lol

[hollow stone]

i thought spell components weren't expent unless explicitly stated?

[atomic kayak]

Which diamonds for revival are

[buoyant oar]

This was about a conversation about diamonds

[hollow stone]

i see.

[vagrant quartz]

How I start a campaign:

Get 50 gold

Buy a gem

Chromatic orb achieved

Happy

[umbral girder]

All ressurection can be denied per the DMG

[woven flint]

Hm, well shit

[umbral girder]

So you could cast Wish and the soul can say “No”

[woven flint]

I thought chromatic orb consumed the component? 😭

[glad arch]

Why would you refuse ressurection as pc though

[umbral girder]

Nope!

[buoyant oar]

One thing I am not a fan of is the Dead condition doesn't mention that if a soul isn't free it can't be revived.

[vagrant quartz]

Nuh uh

[umbral girder]

Want to play a new character for the player.
Has had enough of life for the PC.

[buoyant oar]

Sometimes. Death is a satisfying end.

[woven flint]

Probably because some characters would think coming back from the dead is heinous, maybe because they died an honorable death, maybe because they're reunited with someone in death ect

[umbral girder]

“Why waste these resources on me?”

[silk hare]

also I just realised that the magic jar spell is essentially an instakill with a CHA st lol

[vagrant quartz]

So you can't torture an army of soldiers to keep on fighting even when they are broken beyond repair and only wish for death, bummer..

[severe rampart]

I mean, if your character has already achieved what they sought to do, and then died, I feel like that's a pretty satisfying end, if you get ressurected and have no more motives that's just milking a dead cow

[silk hare]

nope, you could extort the soul tho e.g. if you dont come back I do X to your loved one

[umbral girder]

Yeah things like making Zombies are just putting actual Evil into a corpse, not grabbing someone’s soul.

[woven flint]

If my Warlock died, he'd probably refuse revival because he'd most probably be reunited with his sister in death

[vagrant quartz]

takes notes

[buoyant oar]

Used to Resurrection has the soul must be willing and free.

They removed the free part as far as I can't tell. So imprisoning souls is less of an assumed course.

[severe rampart]

What if you are their loved one

[vagrant quartz]

Me when get infused with evil™

[woven flint]

You can't, you just extort the body, not the soul

[umbral girder]

Because the Alignments are actual forces of the multiverse and the evil half’s power makes undead things.

[silk hare]

depends on the options your dm gives you, if you have a way to let the soul know, then yes, you could extort the soul/ being

[severe rampart]

Would it be morally wrong to resurrect your dead spouse

[silk hare]

but other than that you cannot force a resurrection

[silk hare]

depends on context I guess

[umbral girder]

The Material plane is just the dead center of it all so they get all of the alignments.

[buoyant oar]

That is like the plot of Honor Among Thieves

[woven flint]

If you raise them as an undead, yes

If you resurrect them and restore them to life, probably not?

[silk hare]

whats that

[glad arch]

The dnd movie

[vagrant quartz]

Depends on a few things, do they wanna come back? Do they come back as zombo? Do they become immortal / age gap between you and them becomes too large ? Are they in unimaginable pain when alive?

[silk hare]

ah I see

[severe rampart]

Say, you can't move on, they're ready to move on, but you can't, so constantly you resurrect them hoping that someday something would change

[silk hare]

I mean if they actually try to die over and over then yes, thats morally wrong

[severe rampart]

They don't try to die they are just very unlucky

[glad arch]

I mean kinda, for one ressurection isnt as easy but i still think he would have revived his wife if the barbarian woman (forgot her name) didnt die

[woven flint]

Well, as mentioned, a soul can refuse resurrection

But a body cannot refuse being brought back as an undead

[vagrant quartz]

Hey guys

Remember || Connor? ||

[woven flint]

The Soul isn't brought back as part of the Undead being

[buoyant oar]

Most of the plot on the movie is centered on letting go

[glad arch]

Ill take your word, been a while since ive seen it tbf

[hidden spindle]

That's Frozen

[severe rampart]

wait hold on, so if they refuse the first time, can they accept the second time their body gets revived?

[woven flint]

The soul only comes back if its willing

[umbral girder]

The 2023 DnD movie. Probably the best we got too.

[glad arch]

Can you spam someones soul with revive requests?

[vagrant quartz]

Lmaooo

[hidden spindle]

Yeah. It's just costly... unless you're a certain Barbarian subclass

[severe rampart]

"Honey, come back, I know you've died like fifteen times but I promise this time I'll keep you safe"

[woven flint]

A person can also choose to have their soul reside in a Ring of Mind-Shielding if they have one, fun fact

[silk hare]

?

[wanton sorrel]

I have a qustion to that... coudn't you use a resurrection scroll?

[glad arch]

Zeallut barbarian doesnt consume the gem when revived

[umbral girder]

Oh yeah the 2014 Zealot negated Raise dead components

[vagrant quartz]

Also the genie warlock lantern thing? Or am I miss remembering stuff?

[silk hare]

souls can refuse

[glad arch]

Does it not need it or not consume it

[wanton sorrel]

ok that makes perfect sense

[woven flint]

No, that doesn't do the same thing lol

[hidden spindle]

'14 Zealot Barbarian

[silk hare]

yeh I just saw, thats funny ngl

[umbral girder]

Doesn’t need it

[woven flint]

Resurrection is consensual because you're asking

Raising undead isn't because you're forcing

[hidden spindle]

You need to cast the Spell. So it consumes the material component. Spell Scroll too

[umbral girder]

Also making Undead isn’t bringing anyone back to life

[woven flint]

Indeed

[umbral girder]

It’s just making a monster.

[vagrant quartz]

Undead isn't life, resurrection is very much life

[glad arch]

I was talking zealot barbarian btw

[hidden spindle]

Raising Undead is only a Material matter. No souls involved

[severe rampart]

I'm pretty sure I asked this before and I forgot, where do people in DnD go when they die?

[wanton sorrel]

the lost souls?

[silk hare]

depends on what you are playing

[modern hearth]

not sure where to ask this. I am a novice DM and my new group has asked to do a dystopian adventure (divergent/hunger games) in high fantasy. I'm looking for a premade campaign and modules to buy on roll20. Does anyone have any suggestions since i dont know all the books

[severe rampart]

are they conscious in the afterlife? how can they consent to being revived?

[buoyant oar]

And which setting

[hidden spindle]

Oh. The caster doesn't need the Material Component if its reviving the Zealot

Spell Scroll's probably consumed though

[wanton sorrel]

huh... time to question life.

[vagrant quartz]

John the life pork is calling 📳

[buoyant oar]

It is specifically stated they know of the casting and they know who is doing it.

[silk hare]

doesnt have to be concious, could just be a brief moment of : hey: come back and if they refuse they go back to nothingness

[umbral girder]

It’s magic, making sense isn’t usually on the menu.

[hidden spindle]

I wonder if they would know if I had a Disguise on 🥸

[vagrant quartz]

Me when I kill and resurrect the atheist npc to prove/disprove there is an afterlife

[severe rampart]

or if a changeling used shapechanger

[buoyant oar]

Yes because they don't get a view screen. It is like sending, they just know.

[umbral girder]

Well in DnD the Afterlife is a known thing

[severe rampart]

I wonder if there's a "Do not disturb" feature in the afterlife

[umbral girder]

Like wizards can just travel to them

[severe rampart]

DnD, if you will

[umbral girder]

They can summon creatures from there.

[crimson gulch]

Planescape is so fun

[silk hare]

how exactly?

[umbral girder]

Plane shift

[hidden spindle]

Magic

[umbral girder]

All the Outer Planes are afterlives.

[silk hare]

ah interesting, didnt know that

[umbral girder]

The Astral Sea is full of dead people souls

And corpses of Gods

[umbral girder]

Yeah each plane is based on an Alignment

They look at who you were during life and send your soul to an outer plane.

[wintry spindle]

I wonder which afterlife is the best one to go to

[buoyant oar]

Based Kelemvor

[crimson gulch]

mechanus for sure

[umbral girder]

So if you are Lawful Good you go to Mount Celestia, Arcadia, Bytopia depending on how Lawful or how Good you were

[wintry spindle]

Good ol mordons

Elysium seems nice also

[umbral girder]

Arcadia for the very Lawful + good
Bytopia for very good + lawful
And Mount Celestia for in between

So long as nothing gets in the way of the system of course

Like a Lich or Devil can yoink souls

[buoyant oar]

Kelemovr becomes god of the dead
Uses his best judgement to become a moral and just god.
Other gods get pissed because one guy is assigning everyone
Submits himself to his own test
Fails
Removes all of his emotions

[wintry spindle]

Damn played himself

[buoyant oar]

Well he and Mystra were good aligned people. And they wanted to be good gods. Mystra only gave magic to good people. Kelemvor was very lenient on bad souls.

Then their number one op Cyric accuses them of not being fair and balanced. "Incompetence by Humanity"

[wintry spindle]

I sometimes have like a moral ambigurity with the concept of death sometimes. Especially with magic that can bypass it

You sometimes need to write a reason why they can't get ressurected for example

Which was fun to see in the DnD movie they had to adress that fact

[frank wind]

im running my own Naruto themed homebrew dnd campaign and i have a filler arc coming up (a player cant show up) so im doing a one shot with the group, i wanted to do something unique with an interesting fight and a possible twist but im struggling with writing a one shot for this filler session. looking for ideas or suggestions so dm me or reply to this, you dont need to be a naruto fan its just a naruto rekin over most 5e rules. thank you!!! (kinda looking for a one shot co-writer)

[wintry spindle]

Beach episode

[frank wind]

bleach would work but like what arc, and can it be done in 2-3 hours thats the hard part

[wintry spindle]

Tournament arc

[forest canyon]

Does anybody have a campaign open for new players?

[harsh hollow]

#looking-for-players

[frank wind]

we have already done one of those :/ i kinda want top do something with a crazy twist at the end

[wintry spindle]

Flashback episode

[frank wind]

flashback isnt a bad idea, i could take them back in time but they would probably just refight a previous enemy and that could make them bored :/

[hidden spindle]

I remember watching Kaiju number 8. Their filler episode was the team was following their leader on an off day and it was just him shopping.

[frank wind]

thats a pretty cool idea but unfortuantly their l;eader rn is being chased as a rouge ninja, since this is a one shot i have to avoid the mains story of my campaign so that wouldnt work but i like the idea!

[humble cairn]

Don't share your age, it's against the rules.

[bronze wave]

Is it?

[wintry spindle]

timetravel arc

[humble cairn]

It is

[wintry spindle]

go back and fight the villian as young

[forest canyon]

Why I feel like it shouldn't be especially to find campaigns that aren't 18+ that kinda sucks

[frank wind]

the problem is, they have been sweeping most fights, if they went back in time they would completely level the enemy, however i could do something where i merge the 3 most difficult bosses into one fight..... thats actually kinda sick of an idea

[still plover]

Situation, location, opposition, complication. Aim to hit the three pillars of combat, exploration and interaction.

[humble cairn]

You can say if you meet the criteria or not, but not share your exact age, here's the rule: #1133105121853714563 message

[forest canyon]

Ok that makes more sense

[frank wind]

exactly! yes but man its hard to hit those in a 3 hour only session so im strugglinggggg

[humble cairn]

Also, you can delete posts you've made.

[still plover]

Have you heard the gospel of the Five Room Dungeon method?

[frank wind]

ive seen a youtube video i think but im not familiar really, the only issue is i mean i really dont have like the core details of the one shot, i didnt know if anyone here played a super remembable one shot i could reflavor for naruto

[hidden spindle]

Hmmm... what if they had a train to catch?

[frank wind]

its a naruto campaign so not exactly sure what to do withthat lol

[hidden spindle]

-# I'm not familiar with Naruto

[frank wind]

basically just imagine normal 5e, but ninjas instead of adventures

[hidden spindle]

What's this 3 bosses fight you mentioned earlier?

[frank wind]

well basically they have foughten 3 bosses that were kinda tough but they rolled the bosses (players are op) but what if i put these 3 seperate fights into one big fight? the only issue is, idk where the bosses sheets went (homebrew sheets) lol

[hidden spindle]

Remake it from memory and your players could remember them too

[frank wind]

ig uess my only issue is all the detils surrounding the session, like this would have to be some type of shared nightmare or something, i cant have the bosses come back actually in verse (no nercomancy in naruto really) so id have to make a short story and a reason why they are back fighting our players when they were all from different arcs and locations

[umbral girder]

Whats a good Cr10 monster for a vampire servant? Ideally a brute type creature.

[silk hare]

genjutsu

have them roll multiple Con saves (the first ones are "poison" that makes them more susceptible)

followed by the real con save

so they have a shared "dream"

the absent player is the only one that "succeeded" and was dealing with the person that cast the genjutsu in the meantime

hence why they arent there

[grand onyx]

Helloooooooll

[reef copper]

lolhi

[grand onyx]

Hru?

[reef copper]

good, recently made a fishermangod canon to a reality where i accidentaly dropped my +1 knife

Yes i like being vague in context

[grand onyx]

Peak?

[reef copper]

In a few hundred years when that planet becomes more sufficient in magic my character could get a message from a great great great great, etc son of a fisherman family that turned into noblemen from being the origin of discovering magic.

[grand onyx]

Dang nice XD

[reef copper]

So hru?

[grand onyx]

I’m good thanks!

[proper chasm]

Hi im starting to create an adventure and imm starting the world building were in the -300 dr adventurer was transported in to a land out of time. My question is there any significant civiliisation of human in the years -300 dr of forgotten realm.

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, so does WotC. They still won't give me physics-appropriate damage calcs for Summon Iron Wall in the air so it splatters whoever's below.

[reef copper]

@hot marlin :3

[proper chasm]

Thx

[reef copper]

I would, Im with you on this

[rugged hawk]

Cause I'm pretty sure dropping 800+ lbs of SOLID IRON on someone from any height is a whole hella lot more than just d6/10 ft

[reef copper]

but i think you can make up the rules yourself too

Me my dm and the other players also strive for realism and this would be allowed if proven to work in world, slight issue might be that the enemies can use it too

[rugged hawk]

No no, that last bit's perfect. Players can do whatever they like.... but enemies are just as capable.

[reef copper]

I like your takes my fellow dnd'er

[rugged hawk]

Sure, you wanna pull out a Bag of Undead Beholder Holding? Don't be surprised if an enemy has something similar prepared at some point 👀

Behold, Chest of Flaming Zombies Holding

Oops, now your boat's in danger of catching fire

[reef copper]

That did happen to me

[reef copper]

My vampire spawn noble chased down the party at sea, combat was even until the wizard burned a huge hole in the side of his ship with fireballs and he had to spend the rest of the night and following day under sea to bot die from the sun

[crimson gulch]

yeah, crushing traps can do a lot of damage

[scenic zinc]

This is legitimately one of the best ways to get players to realize create water shouldn't do the broken things they want it to do.

[silk hare]

so is falling IRL (usually)

but once u bring physics into the game, a lot of things break down ....

[silk hare]

I mean the main argument is to turn it to ice no?

but in regards to that the overwhelming consensus is that spells do what they specifiy, not more

[scenic zinc]

Unfortunately no. There's plenty of people who ask 'well, the lungs are an empty container, right?'

[rugged hawk]

I mean, if players can Create Water and freeze it midair before it hits the ground, that's totally valid, given that water is 8 lbs per gallon, but they'd have to legitimately accomplish it

Also, they'd then be totally vulnerable to having it done to them at some point in the future, which is completely fair.

[silk hare]

ahh I see, well no bc they occupy a creatures space which is defined as a 5x5 ft square

[rugged hawk]

Lungs are technically an empty container, but if they're trying to cast Create Water like that, treat it as Drown (5th spell tier)

[scenic zinc]

They're not an empty container by any stretch of the definition.

[silk hare]

not really no, bc its not really an OPEN container

they dont know if the enemy is e.g. swallowing so it would be closed, therefore the casting fails

also its not about empty but OPEN

the "empty" argument you can somehow facilitate bc otherwise you couldnt cast it outside either bc theres air also

[crimson gulch]

page 19 of the new DMG comes in handy here for sure

[rugged hawk]

Since when do we read around here? ||/s||

[scenic zinc]

It really doesn't matter in any regard. A creature isn't a container.

[crimson gulch]

i recommend it

[silk hare]

somewhat depends on context and e.g. corpse/ creature definition is iffy

[rugged hawk]

A creature is an organic container of biomass, ackshually.

[silk hare]

and an "empty" skull IS a container e.g.

so the question is when does it count as empty

[rugged hawk]

When someone INT dumped?

[scenic zinc]

Very simply, mechanically, a creature isn't a container.

All the other silliness can get thrown out.

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but it's still a squirming SACK OF FLESHY BITS

Also, creatures have lots of container-like space inside for digestion

But again, I'm all for these creative methodologies..... but those who abuse them will most definitely find themselves on the receiving end as well.

The big question to ask as a player when getting ....creative... is, "How would I feel if the enemies could do this?"

[rugged hawk]

Also, I hear what you're saying, but objectively, a monster is just a mobile lootbox.

[raw ocean]

If it takes time and planning, I feel like it should be rewarded. If it's just some 1 minute "this instantly kills them" cheese, probably not.

[rugged hawk]

No no, by all means, let them have their 'insta-kill' moment. They'll be smiling right up until the enemies learn from the experience and use it themselves.

[raw ocean]

Oh the joy of finally being able to add a villain that makes genuine plans on killing them

[potent vector]

The biggest argument I've seen is no line of sight

[rugged hawk]

Legacy Water Walk used to send underwater creatures rocketing back to the surface at 60 ft / round. I'd totally let them use that to kill something with The Bends..... then have it being used on them by spellcasting undersea enemies.

[potent vector]

There is no LOS between you and the target for the spell (their insides that actually store whatever atrocity you want to commit)

[rugged hawk]

I mean, that's easy enough to solve with Wizard's Eye

Long as they stay in range of your extended magivision, at least.

[raw ocean]

I remember one time I made a 20 step plan using an expensive gate scroll, DM said the dude I was targeting had omniscience

[ionic forge]

hi

[rugged hawk]

Your DM sounds like a real piece of work

[raw ocean]

Campaign imploded 2 months later

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, that tracks.

[raw ocean]

Im now in three brand new campaigns and all of them are pretty fun

[ionic forge]

nice

[raw ocean]

Curse Of Strahd, Curse'd By Strahd, and Frontiers of Mirari

[ionic forge]

i wanna try and be in a dnd campaign and literally just be the healer

[empty thicket]

always curse of strahd this, strahd this another
No one "how is Strahd?"

[rugged hawk]

Undead, obviously.

[empty thicket]

His heart might not pump anymore but that dont mean he dont feel something

[raw ocean]

As a cleric main myself, it's fun or bad depending on the group

[rugged hawk]

Cursed, that's how he feels.

Also, I'm 99% sure vampires have functioning hearts

[empty thicket]

Oh, poor creature, hope they find a cure for that someday

[ionic forge]

well i wanna be the healer cleric

[raw ocean]

So life domain

[ionic forge]

ye

[glass granite]

Life Domain is the healiest healer that ever did heal

[raw ocean]

It's fun, just don't let people take advantage of your support

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, I've got a character involved in Cult of the Dragon shenanigans, too. https://www.dndbeyond.com/avatars/53428/460/1581111423-157446052.jpeg

[raw ocean]

Hell yeah

Although im still adapting to the paladin gameplay, it's hard to act like I don't want loot

[umbral girder]

Life domain heal so good they also heal

[raw ocean]

I remember when I made a power build healer for fun, I coulden't even die if I wanted too

[umbral girder]

Give it time

Slots run out after all.

[raw ocean]

Observe my special move... running away!

[umbral girder]

Clerics are the slowest of the classes I think?

Besides maybe Wind Walk? They don’t have much mobility.

[raw ocean]

Im pretty sure there's a spell that can activate another stored spell under certain conditions

[umbral girder]

Word of Recall maybe.

[raw ocean]

Kind of like a mobile temporary glyph of warding

[umbral girder]

Assuming of course you aren’t dealing with a monster that negates teleportation

[raw ocean]

DM has to hate their players if they counterspell healing and teleports

[umbral girder]

Shoutout to Demiliches and that weird mouth monster

[umbral girder]

Oh it’s not even a Counterspell. It just happens when you are in their dungeons.

It’s like trying to cast Plane shift in Barovia, get hit by a big no and waste slot

[raw ocean]

I remember when I had a DM that hated the idea of me resurrecting my teammates so much, they added wounds on enemy nat 20's and if I revive them

[Tier 4 campaign btw]

[rugged hawk]

Just limit diamonds, e-z

[raw ocean]

We didn't have components

[rugged hawk]

DM skill issue

[raw ocean]

Wanna know what did really, like really really anger me?

[umbral girder]

I should do that one module that says “no” to healing, ressurection, and teleporting

Also has the rule of “disadvantage on death saves (which are DC 15)”

[raw ocean]

We had this party wizard that was dropping like 700 force damage nukes, but as soon as their character died they suggested that we add components

Like, dude?

[umbral girder]

Maybe that should be my next campaign. Just that meat grinder of a module

[grim berry]

First day of DMing at my school's dnd club:
-40 kids showed up, 30 of which didn't have characters. We expected about 15-20.
-Most didn't know how to make characters
-We had one handbook, one notebook with brief descriptions of classes.
-Absolute Chaos.

[umbral girder]

Gotta get the basic rules PDF ready.

[raw ocean]

Atp just print out an application form 😭

[grim berry]

Lmao yeah

[raw ocean]

But personally I do hate it when people bring pre-made characters to campaigns that don't fit them

[grim berry]

I have to pray to Jesus that no-one's a Druid in my campaign

[raw ocean]

What did druids do 🥀

[rugged hawk]

Halsin

[grim berry]

Bc it's centred around a secret race of Druids whose forest is being threatened

[lost basin]

i love u halsin

[glass granite]

I don’t see why a Druid couldn’t be allowed there

[grim berry]

And I swear, if someone seduces something on the first session I ever run, I'm just throwing something

[rugged hawk]

Why do you hate fun? /s

[grim berry]

In the world, a Druid has not been seen in over 100 years. They're thought to be a long lost race

[lost basin]

they will seduce. ive seduced a door. it worked

[glass granite]

Plus they have more stakes, maybe, and more willing to try and help

[glass granite]

Oh, all Druids

Granted, you have to communicate that to the players

[raw ocean]

True D&D horror story: I tried teaching some friends how to play D&D, and in our first sessions one of them was playing Bloons Tower Defense the whole time and barely interacted at all. The other one tried to seduce every female NPC that showed up.

I truly shed a tear whenever a new D&D player thinks it's just a dating game

[umbral girder]

So just have them be from a different circle

[glad arch]

.

[rugged hawk]

Ofc it's not, it's Dice Dating v'24

[umbral girder]

And?

[glad arch]

Thats still a druid, which are supposed to be rare in their setting

[umbral girder]

Easy plot, someone outside is a Druid somehow, now that secret groups wants to know how.

[glass granite]

I’m still for having Druids tbh

[grim berry]

I don't know who's in my campaign

[umbral girder]

The player characters are meant to be special after all

[woven flint]

Druids aren't a race 🤔

[umbral girder]

They can just be the rare people themself after all. We got angel people as a playable race after all.

[glass granite]

Do you have any way to communicate to the players at large?

[grim berry]

I mean as in it's a secret group of people

[rugged hawk]

This sounds like a secret implosion waiting to happen 🤔

[woven flint]

You mean a secret sect?

[grim berry]

Yeah, ik, but they've already created characters

[lost basin]

erm actually

[grim berry]

No

[glass granite]

That’s concerning

[grim berry]

Mhm

[glad arch]

That seems like an issue on its own

[woven flint]

FIREBA-

[lost basin]

NOOO

[grim berry]

Because that's what the absolute chaos of a today's session was

[lost basin]

word of advice, make a discord

[rugged hawk]

Fine, fine. Skull Trap!

[lost basin]

okay fine meteor swarm

[glass granite]

Antimagic field

[wraith sedge]

Will there be any campaigns available to play on this server?

[woven flint]

As a Deity of Goofy, I negate thy Antimagic Field to allow a silly to happen

[glad arch]

Campaigns on this server, no. But theres a lot of ads for them

[grim berry]

I'm aware, I don't know who's joining my campaign, so I'm going to have to pray to all the gods that theyll listen and maybe join a gc

[glad arch]

#looking-for-players

[glass granite]

Look at #find-a-game , this server doesn’t host games tho

[wraith sedge]

Ok thank you.

[glad arch]

You just mentioned you had a session, you should know whos in that session

[glass granite]

Just a reminder that you don’t need to accept too many people into your game

[lost basin]

i joined a session that had like 12 people.... the combat was......rough to say the least

[glad arch]

Nah 12 people is way to many, both slogs down combat to a grinding halt and doesnt allow for any individual character moments

[lost basin]

exactly. i didnt come back and i dont think they even realized

[glad arch]

Alright i did my turn, time to wait for 45 minutes

[woven flint]

The Waterdeep party I'm in when combat starts: "We are going to beat you to death!"
And then they do so without theatrics! Very much beat to death.
Can you imagine such a simple party?

[glad arch]

I mean, theyre true to their word

[woven flint]

We've got a Rogue, Monk, Barbarian, Sorcerer and Cleric (Me)
Combats are pretty damn fast lol

[glad arch]

Sorcerer all lonely in the back

Actually cleric might be there, depending what type

[silk hare]

counterspell

[glass granite]

Subtle spelled

[woven flint]

I'm mostly mid to backline
I'm a Knowledge Cleric, though, I'm a Tortle and have like 19 AC, when we reach level 5 imma be Spirit Gaurdian-ing pretty hard
I also have wizard magic initiate frome the Sage background, so I have shocking grasp, Ray of Frost and shield as some spell options lol

[glad arch]

Fire

[woven flint]

If the three of our martials don't beat someone to death, I'm kinda there to defend the sorcerer lol

[glad arch]

Last line before they get to the squishies

*squishy

[empty thicket]

Neat

[woven flint]

I may or may not have the highest AC And a bowl of water elemental control

[glad arch]

Been playing a paladin for a couple sessions now and god i love high AC

[woven flint]

We call the Water Elemental I summon from it "Whirlpool" he's a unit

[glad arch]

Dm doesnt, which makes it better /hj

[empty thicket]

I was playing some Fighter, feel nice hitting many times and hard.

[glad arch]

Next level extra attack and 2nd level spell slots. Should be doing better damage

So far ive been underwhelming in fights, just tanking hits

[umbral girder]

Oh yeah playing Fighter is wicked amounts of damage.

The fighter in my Tuesday game (Not that one Tokii) is constantly doing 100+ damage a round.

[woven flint]

Blade Pact Warlock is pretty fun, you're almost always on par with the Fighter if you invest until action surge and their 20th level extra attack are added in

[umbral girder]

His action surges hurt

[umbral girder]

Or any Fighter feats.

Warlock has difficulties with AC and HP.

[woven flint]

Indeed
I just so happened to take the tough feat with one of my Lessons of the Old Ones invocations lol

And I bought elven chain!

[umbral girder]

Also helps the fighter in the party you are in is a Multiclass which is actively weaker.

But my other Tuesday group fighter is a monster with how fast and how hard he hits.

[woven flint]

Damn Ti-Moth smh.

[umbral girder]

Level 1-20 group so they have so much loot hoarded up.

[woven flint]

I'm surprised our characters even make it through combat encounters, honestly >->

[lost basin]

i wanna know your guys' opinion on something: if a DM let you join a campaign, say, session 2 or 3. And you join. The DM doesn't tell you until you get there that youll be playing a pre-made character, the character of another player who dropped. how would yall feel about that?

[umbral girder]

I mean sure. You shouldn’t have a character made ahead of time.

[wanton sorrel]

100% terrible

[umbral girder]

Characters are made during session 0 after all.

[silk hare]

do everything to kill that particular character or straight up tell them u dont like that

depending on if other stuff happened and malicious compliance

but best course of action is to tell them you would like to play your own character etc etc

[lost basin]

so im not crazy??? i joined and there were aspects of that character i wasnt comfortable roleplaying. their response was "well theyre already integrated in the story, so..."

[woven flint]

I think I'd play it for a session then ask if I can make a character before next session as I prefer to play my own

[woven flint]

Oh, then like.. leave? Lol
You're not supposed to just fill in for someone's character because they leave

[lost basin]

i did just that, then got chewed out for being 'unreliable'

[silk hare]

see just kill the character then so they dont do that to someone else , revival spells dont work if u dont want your soul to return

[lost basin]

so i left lol

[woven flint]

Then leave the table

[umbral girder]

Even then you can also ask to modify the character to how you want to play them as well.

[wanton sorrel]

terrible dm for sure

[silk hare]

oh alright then, thats the more mature option for sure but Im petty

[lost basin]

well it was backstory stuff important to the campaign. guess what in involved.

[silk hare]

I mean u could just change that, it doesnt take much

just "insert new character"

[lost basin]

i asked if i could, he said it was important for the campaign

[silk hare]

or "hey would u be ok with you being a relative to that character so we can carry on the narrative"

[wanton sorrel]

I perfer new table

[woven flint]

I would've said
"Then make the character an NPC? I'm not looking to play someone else's character, I'd like to make my own or I can just leave."

[lost basin]

i already left, but i wanted to know if i was suer crazy for telling them i wasnt comfortable

[proper forum]

Hi ❤️

[lost basin]

he chewed me out man i was so confused

[vagrant quartz]

Valid reasoning 100%

[silk hare]

sounds like a him problem, you were justified

[glad arch]

You are not getting very good luck on your dnd games are you 💀

[wanton sorrel]

now i'm scared to find a dm T_T

[glass granite]

Gooood morning afternoon evening, Wahzzup!

[woven flint]

No wonder the last player left, this dm sounds like a child

[lost basin]

thanks guys i feel validated

[proper forum]

Heyyyy I'm good, thanks

[vagrant quartz]

The roof

[lost basin]

i wonder if she really wrote her backstory or if he did.

[silk hare]

oh what I would give to be able to send the scary move GIF xD

[silk hare]

Ill do you one better: the sky

[silk hare]

what happened to the niffler btw, if its now a "dead platypus" xD

[glass granite]

Hi good, I’m Nugget, good morning from the Land Down Under

[lyric viper]

Ah, most aren't so bad. People are people. People mess up. Some people are more mature than others.
You're in a chat full of people right now, many of whom have or will DM.

Like any hobby/activity where you spend a lot of time with the same group of people, you might find sometimes you do and don't click, and good communication helps wonders.

[vagrant quartz]

I am suffering, half my conversation contribution is gifs 😭

[glass granite]

Hallo, DM here

[silk hare]

Hallo, neither here

[glass granite]

Well, someone mistook it for a platypus, then someone killed me
Sooo

[silk hare]

☠️

[vagrant quartz]

🙏🏻

[silk hare]

makes sense I guess lmao

[vagrant quartz]

May he rest in a pet cemetery

[wanton sorrel]

rest in peace

both

[silk hare]

rest in pieces :)))

[woven flint]

Me crafting the most horrifically depressing plot full of darkness and betrayal

Then I slap in a dog! ||The dog Is actually a vessel the BBEG is trapped in and the party will eventually set it free.||

[silk hare]

yeh the campaign that would have started like 2 months ago? that no one (even the dm) bothered to organize other than me had their session 0 like 2 weeks ago and everyone showed up, other than the dm

[proper forum]

It's definitely not morning here but good morning nonetheless

[silk hare]

in person btw, so you can have both here and there

[night basin]

Time to think of how I could make a warforged or autognome monk who's powered by 80s to early 2000's music.

[vagrant quartz]

|| And then they will have to kill the dog , as it begs to be released from the BBEG and finally die in peace and meet his original owner ||

[wanton sorrel]

understandable

[silk hare]

theres a lot of hype, if u want to start go to #dnd-newcomers

theres a lot of reading to do

[woven flint]

||No, the Dog and the BBEG are ine in the same, there was never a real dog.||

[night basin]

Or should I put this in character discussion?

[silk hare]

probably

[proper forum]

Me creating an evil dark edgy gritty dark fantasy campaign based on Black Metal and opening it with a "horse walks into a bar" joke:

[silk hare]

but how about an old classic: the steam engine

sound used to power one that powers your warforged

[vagrant quartz]

|| so the BBEG went potty outside by the tree? 😭🙏🏻 he'd get mocked so hard by a bard ||

[woven flint]

Viva la John Carpenters; The Thing
"That dog isn't real!'

[wanton sorrel]

I don't know where to discuss my character since discussing character is only for 2014 and 2024... so IDK what to do at this point. X'D

[woven flint]

I dunno why I'm spoilering it. I haven't even started the campaign yet.. and probably won't for a while lmao

[silk hare]

homebrew?

[wanton sorrel]

D&D first edition

[glad arch]

#dnd-elder-editions probably

[proper forum]

I'm not gonna be in it anyways so I don't mind

[vagrant quartz]

Someone give me some bleach / a lobotomy I don't wanna exist rn

[woven flint]

With this treasure I summon!!!!

[silk hare]

where my mind went unironically

yup yup

you are my speciallll

[glad arch]

Roastimg the bbeg before he even reveals himself

[vagrant quartz]

They retconned everything

[naive cedar]

Hello chat

[vagrant quartz]

Hello

[glad arch]

Hi

[glass granite]

Hello, Alleycat

[woven flint]

What if I told you he was completely immune to cantrips and up to level 3 spells?

[winged canyon]

So I haven't actually tried, but how difficult is it to make an Enspelled Armor/Staff/Weapon that works properly with the dndbeyond homebrew rules?

[glad arch]

Doesnt prevent emotional damage

[vagrant quartz]

They are still dealing massive aoe psychic dmg

[silk hare]

its just crafting an uncommon item no? (depending on the spell I guess) but its just normal crafting rules right?

[woven flint]

Its an Elder Entity, I'm sure it doesn't feel anything (Which is why it'd be immune to fear, charm and other things, I'll have to work on his statblock)
He's also immune to psychic damage in particular

[silk hare]

or is there sth else u mean by this

[vagrant quartz]

What if I threw gale at it?

[silk hare]

"nuke incoming"

[winged canyon]

Like, making an Enspelled item that works properly, with the charges and the set DC/spell attack bonus, etc. The Homebrew system for dndbeyond is fiddly and difficult to properly parse

[empty thicket]

There is any waterskin that its infinite water or something like that?

[naive cedar]

Gale as an improvised weapon

[woven flint]

I dunno, it'd probably destroy his mind?

[silk hare]

you mean for homebrew spells? or in general, bc why not just recycle other enspelled items and copy the spell effect onto it?

[vagrant quartz]

"kaboom? Yes Rico, kaboom"

[silk hare]

alchemy jug technically

[woven flint]

Doesn't Gale exploding destroy.. EVERYTHING?

[silk hare]

not all at once but kind of infinite, AND YOU CAN MAKE MAYONNAISE

[wanton sorrel]

?

[winged canyon]

The Enspelled Item by default doesn't have any spells in it, it just has the rules for it

[glad arch]

Alchemy jug has a daily limit doesnt it?

[woven flint]

MAYONNAISE ON AN ESCALATOR

[silk hare]

yes

but it still produces "infinite amounts" over time with no real input

[naive cedar]

His bomb can level a city the size of Waterdeep

[vagrant quartz]

Can I drink from the alchemy jug like a milk jug

[silk hare]

sure why wouldnt u

[wanton sorrel]

how do you become a good dungeon master?

[glad arch]

It can produce milk too, it can be a literal milk jug

[vagrant quartz]

Warlock pact

[glad arch]

Practise and patience

[silk hare]

I mean just add the spells you want, for DC consider what you find appropriate, if its hard to come by, make the DC higher, if not then not

[woven flint]

Ah, then that case..
Good luck destroying an Elder God with a lowly nuke smh

[silk hare]

if it proves too effective, lower the DC, or take inspiration from poisons of similar cost, e.g. low / bad poisons usually have a DC of 13, while the better ones get up to 19

so 13-15 should be ok for Tier 2 imo

[naive cedar]

Gale is not a lowly nuke 😤

[silk hare]

or depending on the spell a bit higher actually

[silk hare]

how does it get better than a nuke?

[glad arch]

2 nukes

[silk hare]

ok maybe a tzar bomba

[naive cedar]

A netherese orb nuke

[silk hare]

mhhhhh

[vagrant quartz]

It's netherese flavor

[woven flint]

Wrong
I'm commissioning Dispater to make a nuke for me

[silk hare]

funnily enough, making a nuke really isnt that hard (at least the steps are simple, the materials are whats hard to come by)

so in the setting of dnd you could make it work as long as u have some steam punk elements

[vagrant quartz]

I'm a gale romancer 🥺, he just wants to eat my shoes once in a while

[naive cedar]

It’s probably obvious but I am also a Gale lover

[woven flint]

Oi, handyman! Can ya make a handy BOMB? With extra devil power?

And 4x4 on a raft, give it axel grease, a shimmy and a spine an-

[vagrant quartz]

I couldn't tell xD

[woven flint]

I simply hate everyone in Baulders Gate

[silk hare]

based

[vagrant quartz]

Shovel is nice

[woven flint]

Real OG's live in waterdeep

[naive cedar]

Gale is from waterdeep lol

[vagrant quartz]

Yeah xD

[woven flint]

Not my concern!

[naive cedar]

Tbf even if I didn’t like Gale I’d still love tara

[woven flint]

I don't consider Gale a real individual.

||Anyone who Beds Mystra is instantly a loser in my eyes||

[vagrant quartz]

🧍 elaborate

[vagrant quartz]

Don't worry, I can fix him

[woven flint]

That might be a spoiler, I apologize lmao

[wanton sorrel]

is ok tokii

[naive cedar]

I DID fix him

[vagrant quartz]

I also did

[naive cedar]

Also tbh the games like two year old I don’t think it’s a but deal

[woven flint]

Real men sleep with Demons,
Just like my Goliath Elements Monk

He has a demon husband

[naive cedar]

Uh huh

[vagrant quartz]

Okey but does your man have 6 Arms?

[naive cedar]

Does your man have a tressym? Checkmate

[delicate owl]

Ah a Tokii'ism again

[woven flint]

Yeah, actually, I believe

[jovial shadow]

I've never played Baldur's Gate, so it probably a big deal to me if I ever sat down to do it

[vagrant quartz]

Then they habe good taste

[woven flint]

A Lawful Good Monk Demigod with his gay Chaotic Evil Nightmare Shepherd lover
It's amazing

[vagrant quartz]

WHY DOES MY BRAIN DEFAULT TO MALE PRONOUNS ON EVERYTHING

[woven flint]

I did mention they were guys

[wanton sorrel]

because habbits?

[buoyant oar]

Because it has been the default in the English language for literal centuries.

[vagrant quartz]

Good

TwT okey back to topic

Gale has a cool beard tho

[woven flint]

Pipe down, get back in the Waterdeep chat.

[naive cedar]

And a cool earring

[buoyant oar]

Gale is best wizard because he is the dumbest caster in his current hemisphere

[naive cedar]

Gale is the dumb wizard representation I’ve been waiting for

[vagrant quartz]

Low wisdom wizard at it's finest

[woven flint]

I wouldn't say Dumb, when regarding a wizard, I'd say lacks wisdom and common sense

[buoyant oar]

Gale: uwu ||I need to impress lover! I know I will tinker with thing that killed lover and show her I can master the thing that killed her! ||

Certifiable idiot behavior

[naive cedar]

||Oh oops I have a bomb in my chest…hmm…oh I just got an Illithid parasite, better not tell anyone I might blow up||

[woven flint]

||Mystra don't even love you, Gale, you simpering simpleton!!!||

[buoyant oar]

Gale: ||You know the arch wizard of a civ with flying cities? I am better? I am built different.||

[lyric viper]

Whoop- folk BG3 Spoilers!

[wanton sorrel]

sighs poor Tokii, Lord of goofy

[woven flint]

It wasn't just ME

[naive cedar]

||this is literally his character arc||

That being said I like it when characters are flawed like that. It makes them more realistic

[woven flint]

On another note, if I catch any of you playing a Spellfire sorcerer, I'm coming after you.

[lyric viper]

Cheers folk! Remember we got #baldurs-gate-3-spoilers if you want to rag further on our favourite magic boot disposal.

[buoyant oar]

I ain't even mad at Mystra anymore

[naive cedar]

||Leave my nuclear bomb alone /j||

[woven flint]

I am, she needs to be out down, permanently smh

[vagrant quartz]

i am this close to making freaky remarks

[buoyant oar]

TBF there is no better alternatives lmao

[naive cedar]

Not that the WizardTM is perfect but Mystra is her own whole can of worms

[vagrant quartz]

lemme take a walk outside

[wanton sorrel]

i'm a spellfire sorcerer x'D

[woven flint]

Real chads know the best Deity is Helm

[naive cedar]

Weird way to spell ellistrae

[woven flint]

That's my Warlocks Patron, actually

[buoyant oar]

Ellistrae is a dare I say D tier god.

[naive cedar]

Still the best one

[lyric viper]

Murlynd. Your rootin, tootin, 'fire-wand' shootin' sherrif-paladin god of artificery.

[buoyant oar]

Her whole thing is no cloths, dancing, and you don't gotta be evil 👉 👈

[vagrant quartz]

i'm personally a raven queen enjoyer

[umbral girder]

Yep

[naive cedar]

Raven Queen is also great

[woven flint]

Vhaeraun was an option, but I didn't want him to deal with getting his power from Lolths evil brat of a son

[umbral girder]

Ah yes Hela herself- I mean Wee Jas- I mean- /jk

[potent vector]

Best Low Wis Artificer representative in fiction in general I've found is Uncle Ford from Gravity Falls

[woven flint]

I like Vhaeraun, truly underrated Drow pantheon member

[naive cedar]

YES

[umbral girder]

“You’re math cannot defeat my gun” Ford vs a D&D&D Wizard

[buoyant oar]

Raven Queen is the Goth Gal you keep seeing at the club until you realize they got -5 levels in personality.

[naive cedar]

Nah rhats shar

[woven flint]

I think Ford is an Idiot, Stan is definetly the intellectual between them, I don't care what anyone says smh

[umbral girder]

They have it in common

[potent vector]

I had my best DM moment with a player who played a character connected to her, I very much have a soft spot for her now

[buoyant oar]

Shar gots personality. It ain't a good one but she got one.

[umbral girder]

Also true

[vagrant quartz]

i love that shes a literal crow collecting shiny things

[naive cedar]

Her personality is being a hater

[woven flint]

So are most Evil deities, let's be real

[umbral girder]

Based /jk

[naive cedar]

Nah bhaal’s personality is uhhhhhhhhh

[woven flint]

Malar is the most based of Evil Deities

[umbral girder]

He said “most” not “all” evil deities

[buoyant oar]

She should have more friends considering it is in vogue to hate Mystra rn. And she has been Mystra's number one op since the Days of thunder

[umbral girder]

Like Vecna technically does his bit for self improvement than being a hater

[potent vector]

I mean how can you not hate a god who's so bad at staying alive 😭

[naive cedar]

That’s actually true weirdly enough

[woven flint]

Can't wait for Shar to smoke that Mystra pack

[umbral girder]

Lolth mean while is absolutely a hater

[buoyant oar]

She will just pay Cyric to do it again

Then block him on all socials

[umbral girder]

Tiamat too as hatred is part of her gimmick too I suppose

[woven flint]

PLEASE, that's the ONLY reason I like Cyric

[naive cedar]

Tiamat is cool

[woven flint]

Anyone who kills Mystra is alright in my books

[buoyant oar]

Best god that stands on bidness. Gilgeam.

He took "Dragons Sucks." And ran with it to the end.

His 3e key art is decking tiamat in the face.

[woven flint]

I dunno, Hoar and Tempus are pretty good at standing on bidness

War is their bidness

[buoyant oar]

When he returned to Toril he saw a bunch of dragon people in his land. And that just would not do.

[potent vector]

I love and hate the dead sibling they gave them in Fizban's to give them and Bahamut a reason they split (good because I like the dynamic, bad because I wish they gave us more canon important gem dragons)

[naive cedar]

Tempus is actually pretty chill

[woven flint]

Technically from my understanding
Bahamut and Tiamat aren't ACTUALLY siblings?

[woven flint]

Sardior more like...
Snoredior

[buoyant oar]

Hated them dragonborn so much he summoned an army of demons and restarted the blood war.

[woven flint]

"I may have caused the worst possible outcome but MAN [Censored] them Dragons!"

[buoyant oar]

It worked out. As of 1501 them dragonborn lost all their lands, retreated to a mountain home and their nation is so insignificant its not labeled on maps anymore

[woven flint]

Im kidding, I love him, I just wish he had more lore

[woven flint]

All at the low low price of starting up one of the most dangerous conflicts ever a SECOND time

[potent vector]

Yeah, I requested my DM for him to have smth to do with our new Ebberron campaign, at least his prophecy being at least an interpretation of the Prophecy

[buoyant oar]

Gilgeam: Worth it. I got to watch Dragonborn run and cry to Sultana Songal, and I got to watch the Imaskari die to their Mulhorandi subjects a second time Life is good

[jaunty wyvern]

If you said this sentence to a victorian child I think they might explode

[potent vector]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THEY WORKED IN THE MINES, and in the factories. They'd be made of the HARDEST STUFF imaginable, and here would just ask if it meant they would still need to work overtime!

They could handle any food many say would obliterate them. No worse than the coal in their lungs. /j

[jaunty wyvern]

Fueled on nothing but nicotine and the aching void where whimsy should be

[dusk hatch]

I started to disagree with the saying "dont make players roll for it if failure and success are not both possible".

[glass granite]

That’s a saying? I thought it was “don’t make players roll if the desired outcome is impossible”

Or rather a paraphrased version of that

[dusk hatch]

I typed wrong

[glass granite]

Ic

[still plover]

Okay, how come?

[dusk hatch]

Im saying even though sometimes some things are not exactly possible how players might want them or failure, but it can be like half success or half failure, OR another completely unrelated outcome from the desired one where it would still help players even though when the desired outcome is impossible

[noble spire]

hi!

[still plover]

Or even, you can't fail this, but let's see how well it turns out.

[glass granite]

Gooood morning afternoon evening, Wahzzup!

[dusk hatch]

YESSSS

knowing you did ur worst and still succeeded is still so good

guys its 1 am for me...

[noble spire]

is it common/normal for games to be more than once per week online?

[dusk hatch]

I would never, and I would never be able to

[noble spire]

ah

[dusk hatch]

we r gonna do that (face to face twice the week) for only once because we missed a week, but its just for once

[still plover]

Uncommon but far from unknown.

[noble spire]

i see, i was just hoping to find a new d&d game that meets pretty often as i hate to wait haha

thanks for the response!

[signal basalt]

Are rangers bad ?

[idle oar]

Not really - just a class that doesn't always meet some folks expectations of what a ranger "should" be

[jovial shadow]

No. Rangers have been good since 1e

[signal basalt]

Yk I thought so but I was watching a video and the comments said otherwise

[jovial shadow]

Yeah. People follow Youtubers sometimes too much and believe everything they say. So to get "views" many Youtubers will do what other Youtubers do. And if that means crapping on a class they've never played, to get clicks, they will do it and their subscribers will repeat the nonsense.

[keen kestrel]

The answer is that everything is good, but some things are much better

So rangers are good, but they’re by no means broken

[meager cloud]

How do I report a scam user to an admin?

[lean wigeon]

i think GMs should make players roll for every single thing because rolling more dice equals more fun 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[chilly narwhal]

I love ranger, my third fav class

[signal basalt]

But the fun part of DnD is to not try to be some character that one shots everything but instead just have a fun story I think I get it now

[keen kestrel]

This feels like how I’d explain the chaotic evil alignment

[analog fable]

Hi I'm new any advice I started today

[keen kestrel]

Yes, that’s why it’s fine to play whatever class you like, including Ranger. They will absolutely do well (we’re really talking minute differences anyway)

[chilly narwhal]

The lower the roll, the better the outcome. Always use the lowest number you can on any dice roll

[keen kestrel]

My only complaint is that rangers should’ve had better QoL improvements like all the other classes did in 2024, and somehow WOTC did the opposite and gave them a bad feature instead

[chilly narwhal]

And if you are in a bad situation, use dash for every action you can

[analog fable]

Pretty sure it's bad if you get low numbers on a dice roll

[keen kestrel]

Was gonna say, high numbers tend to be better for most things

[analog fable]

Ya

That's one of the things I already knew

[heady zealot]

hai guys

[keen kestrel]

I’d ask what class you’re intending to play, but clearly you like hitting things

[chilly narwhal]

No, it’s mitigating bad outcomes. And don’t forget to mention that your backstory hasn’t been explored enough, especially if you’ve been in a dungeon. And always include how you are a loner and do not wish to talk to your party. It’s realistic and immersive

[heady zealot]

so lowkey i really wanna learn how to play dnd and learn a bunch of stuff abt it bc its always interested me :3

[prime basin]

quick question for everyone, what is everyone's favorite 2024 dragon design?

[keen kestrel]

Dnd newcomers is a great place to start!

[analog fable]

Ok ty guys

I'm planning on being a soldier or a ranger

But I want my character to be human

[keen kestrel]

Metallic dragons all the way, they look so good

[chilly narwhal]

There are a bunch of resources I recommend. But mostly, I’ve found listening into another party’s campaign makes it easier for newbies. Also don’t forget to read the books and let yourself ask questions or need clarification. The #dnd-newcomers channel is perfect for that

[idle oar]

Go to #moderator-support and state “can I speak with a moderator?” and wait for a private thread to be created

[prime basin]

For me its the black dragon

[keen kestrel]

There’s not really soldier, fighter is the closest equivalent

[chilly narwhal]

Unless he means the background

[heady zealot]

oh okkk tyyy ^^

[analog fable]

Well ya sorry fighter is whar I mean

Sorry my character says soldier

[keen kestrel]

Oh sorry

[analog fable]

Its ok

[chilly narwhal]

Ofc, always feel free to ping me in the dnd newcomer’s channel. I’d love to help with anything at all, but I’m not staff so I can’t answer any server related questions, nor do my opinions reflect this space’s values

[keen kestrel]

Totally forgot there’s a background like that, but that sounds like a good character

[analog fable]

But tbh I've been interested in dnd for a while but you know it's just so expensive

Then I found the mobile app and got it

[chilly narwhal]

I just share the books with my parties at the table or let them borrow

[keen kestrel]

My dm just lets us use his books yeh

[empty thicket]

x2

[chilly narwhal]

For me dnd is like “omg a fun social game” and “yay, solo dnd for relaxation and me time”

[analog fable]

Which If I really like dnd I'm probably going to start buying real dnd sets

Wait you can play solo

[chilly narwhal]

Yup! I play solo often, it’s different but doesn’t involve any other player characters so I can as in depth wherever I like and skip whatever I don’t. And I can get up and leave for baby whenever

[chilly narwhal]

I don’t always want to interact with others for my hobby, and sometimes I’m just way too tired for group play, so I just use resources (mostly free) and play for myself

[analog fable]

So it that online or in real life

[jovial shadow]

Yes. There are some pre-written solo adventures. Others you can use certain regular pre-written ones and solo it, but it takes effort not to read ahead of what's coming.

[wintry grove]

hi

[analog fable]

Ok

[crimson gulch]

Ahh so hype for my game tonight, they are deep in the dungeon, very few spell slots, no hit dice and a boss fight a head. One player died 3 times last session

[vivid owl]

Sup guys

[bitter kraken]

Roll to tie your laces, ooops NAT 1, you accidentally tightened the laces along your heels so much you cut off blood circulation to your feet.

[empty thicket]

Roll for push a door and get into the house, Nat 1, the house in on fire now

[bitter kraken]

More like, only the door is left standing

[sleek cloud]

We finally got a new UA, I can stop tweaking now!

[limber trail]

Roll to get out of bed, nat 1, you fall out of bed and hit your head on your nightstand on the way down, you're unconscious for the next hour and are concussed, -1d4 from every roll you make.

[empty thicket]

Congrats, you opened the door so hard and there was someone behind the door. Its the guy that was about to give you all the info you needed for finding the legendary alchemy jug.
You smashed him so hard that his brain is all around the room. Revivify doesnt work, use true resurrection or wish.

[empty thicket]

the temptation to make one about going to the bathroom, nat 1 and you slip, hit your nap against something and die.

[limber trail]

yeah

i mean hell, wake up, make a con save, on a failure you pull a hamstring and have a halved movement speed

[prime basin]

Literally just the dnd honor among thieves scene

[lean wigeon]

yay
yay
yay sound effect

[mental canyon]

Where do I go to flame DMS who kick everyone and block them without a word?

[azure jasper]

I don't want my character to fight while wearing a backpack but also want the storage for items
and I don't want to just throw my bag on the ground before combat starts
any suggestions?

[loud tendon]

If the backpack doesn't hinder the character for combat, why does it matter?

Or invest in a riding dog or horse that can carry your stuff. But Alternatively can be killed or stolen and might blow stealth rolls.

[azure jasper]

just for aesthetic and roleplay purposes
I don't think wearing it while fighting fits his character

[woven flint]

Hate to tell you, but lots of combatants in real life carry lots of equipment with them as they fight

[glass granite]

Bandoliers are fashionable

[limber trail]

I just flavour most characters as not having packs while in combat and it works well enough

it's the sorta thing which can quite easily just be handwaved

but also, if you're established enough and have some budget to pick up magic items, a bag of holding might be what you need

[lean wigeon]

bag of holding is video game inventory if that's what you're looking for. it's often depicted as a small bag rather than a full on rucksack

[loud tendon]

You could flavor it like a crossbody sling bag. Little more aerodynamic looking

Bag of holding is also great. Smaller profile by far

[azure jasper]

that was my intention but the campaign is just starting and the dm doesn't want anyone starting with a bag of holding

I'm hoping I can get one relatively early game tho

[potent vector]

Have you considered the Humble Artificer/j

[azure jasper]

I already made my character a sorlock

[limber trail]

You can pretty easily just not address it and act as if in combat your character doesn't have a pack on. Pretty common in games as far as i've seen. I've actually never seen a DnD combat where it's assumed players are wearing packs and its relevant

[potent vector]

(/j = joke)

[potent vector]

Unless the DM says they have to account for it, which usually doesn't come up

Is that smth you need to account for Ender?

[azure jasper]

I don't think so
It was just personal preference
thank you for the suggestions

[glass granite]

What warlock subcalss?

[azure jasper]

Hexblade

[glass granite]

Pretty sure you can use the genie lamp

ah ok

[shrewd halo]

Hello

[glass granite]

What's the worst weapon in dnd, i wonder?

Blowgun not included

[stuck shuttle]

2014 Net

[glass granite]

Completely forgot that was considered a weapon

How about in 2024?

[lean wigeon]

5e is bad because you can't make an effective bloons td build

4e fixes this

[glass granite]

I feel like it’s gotta be between darts, sickle and club.
But club can be shillelaghed

[stuck shuttle]

Are we limiting it to mundane weapons?

[glass granite]

Yes

[stuck shuttle]

Yeah I’d agree with sickle & darts

[knotty pasture]

What's the btd build in 4e

[glass granite]

Sickles are just a worse dagger

[neat oak]

Wait……

[glass granite]

Darts…exist

[potent vector]

Hey, I'll have you know Rune Giant Barbarian loves them

[knotty pasture]

For the Druid that wants a ranged weapon without using cantrips

Or do Druids prefer Slings instead

[glass granite]

Druids in 2024 get access to all simple weapons sooo

They can use some bows

[knotty pasture]

Epic

[glass granite]

Epic indeed

[potent vector]

I love slings because of the Homunculus abuse strat with it (have them attack with the magic Stone touched stones with a sling and it uses your stats to attack)

Ez triple multi attack lol

[real hatch]

Do you think +2 is a good modifier?
I have a paladin and I have +2 in charisma so, I don’t know if it’s good number knowing I would have proficiency in magic
(Starting level 1)

[stuck shuttle]

Proficiency in magic?

[knotty pasture]

Yeah +2 is the standard for most secondary stats

[real hatch]

I mean, my spell cast ability

[stuck shuttle]

+2 is fine though yeah

[real hatch]

Okay!

[potent vector]

Just know when you get Aura of Protection you need to max your Cha. fast. One of the best class features in the game

[fallow belfry]

anyone thats played a paid DM game, has it been worth paying for over a non-paid game? or is it just the same but you paid for it?

[warm summit]

I've known paid DMs but don't play, usually you're getting the same adventure they've run XX times because it's not worth their time to prep something different for your group, so I think they tend to be a little railroady

[potent vector]

It's definitely DM dependant, but my experience was better props occasionally (like voice changers/maps, etc) but not much else

[remote wadi]

Is it a good idea to try and have our Druid prepare PWT so I can prepare Zephyr Strike?

Asking because idk if it's just simpler to take PWT anyways and leave Druid to it

[knotty pasture]

Druid has more spells that are in stiff competition with its level 2 spell slots, Rangers should take up PWT duty

[remote wadi]

I mean, Druid has 10 prepared spells

Plus a Mark of Handling

I've got the ones from Gloomstalker and 4 prepared spells. Probably for the rest of the campaign too

Just trying to have Druid swap Entangle for PWT

[knotty pasture]

Druid should keep Entangle, you take PWT

[remote wadi]

I already have Entangle tho

It'll be my BnB

Actually, wait

[knotty pasture]

More lockdown isn't bad, you also can't use Entangle at the same time as PWT

[remote wadi]

Casting time is an action, almosy forgot

[knotty pasture]

And Druid's better spells are all concentration

[remote wadi]

I'll just drop Zephyr Strike, then

[knotty pasture]

Most of Druid's better spells are concentration in general

[remote wadi]

Yeah, I'll just take PWT

Really hoping to try out the Poisoned and Restrained combo

[umbral girder]

Fog Cloud is a nice double edge sword. It blocks most casters because they can’t see, both ally and enemy. It also removes opportunity attacks because you can’t see each other. A neat balancing move.

More of a “change the terrain of the battlefield” type spell

[remote wadi]

Probably not going to choose that. I will start taking Rogue Levels soon

[umbral girder]

Good luck!

[remote wadi]

I also only get 4 prepared spells, and I'm taking AE, PWT, Entangle, and CoE

[umbral girder]

Dropping your character’s versatility for specialization is a useful tactic. Hope it pays off.

[remote wadi]

CoE especially will be fun for when I start making Potent Poisons

Poisoned condition makes escaping Entangle harder, restrained makes CoE's poisoned arrows harder to miss

[unborn lotus]

So D&D seems to be putting out UA subclasses like a madman, since the beginning of 2025 there's been like a dozen UA subclass drops, often containing specific themes like arcane, psyonic, apocalyptic horror.
I wasn't following it at the time, but my understanding is there was only a handful of subclasses released as UA from 2014 - 2025, they've probably already released more UA subclasses than all of 5e

These subclasses also don't seem to match upcoming books as far as I know

Does anybody know what these subclasses are being released and tested for? Or is it a big mystery

[north hawk]

I don't think we have any officially known books and dates coming. But I think one of the books supposed to be coming is related to the Red Wizards of Thay.

[unborn lotus]

That's true I remember hearing about the Wizards of Thay release.. but that would more likely be an adventure which usually don't contain many character options 🤔

[north hawk]

Yeah I agree.

[unborn lotus]

And each of these UA drops contain minimum 4 subclasses

Maybe they're just trying to figure out which class fits the horror theme best and then they'll just release one 😂

Same for Arcana and Psyonics and the others

[north hawk]

All I know is player options sell books. Maybe they have a bunch of smaller books coming based off specific themes/topics.

Eberron Forge of the Artificer was laughably small and full of player options. So maybe stuff like that.

[stoic haven]

I'm hoping for the reworks of the older subclasses, specifically Shepherd, but also dreading it

so remaking some of the previous subclasses + more kinda makes sense

[lusty tendon]

Idk about you guys but i hate playing edgy characters specifically those kinda of rogues, as my most recent one is a detective rogue like character rather than a thief