dnd-discussion

[woven flint]

Unarmed strikes only do damage when making a strike to grapple if you have the Grapller fear

I'm not the dm
I'm the Barbarian

[rare oar]

Unarmed strikes without special feats or anything now have 3 options:

1. do damage
2. grapple
3. shove (push)

[lapis radish]

I see

Yeah, I wanna be able to throw people about and suplex them to death and for my character to have a cape and a mask and after every beat down pretend like there is a crowd watching them, cheering them on

[rare oar]

The grapple and shove use your unarmed strike DC as I explained earlier.
And with the grappler feat, you can combine damage and grapple once per turn.
Open Hand monk also has special exceptions to the general rule, as do certain feats like tavern brawler and others.

[woven flint]

Fun Fact...
You can grapple prone creatures
They have to break the grapple before they're able to get up from prone.. you could be attacking them at advantage, they attack your allies at disadvantage and even you at disadvantage because they're prone!

[rare oar]

"Pinning" is no longer a named mechanic, but you can still knock people prone and then grapple them, which is the same thing as pinning without you yourself being pinned.

Being prone and grappled means your speed is zero and you have disadvantage on all attacks.

[woven flint]

That's exactly what I said! Lol

[rare oar]

The only disadvantage to holding someone prone is that ranged attacks against them are at disadvantage.

[woven flint]

If you have the grappler feat, you can drag them around at full speed TO your other allies

[rare oar]

Assuming they aren't more than one size bigger than you.
Or bigger than you, I forget

[woven flint]

Shove, Grab, Run like hell

[rare oar]

The other thing about prone enemies is that spells that require a saving throw like a dex save (theres cantrips and other spells) are completely unaffected. So if someone has an enemy prone, use toll the dead or something else to damage them as per normal.

[woven flint]

Tempted to do grappling shenanigans with my Centaur Barbarian, but decided against it as a build idea, because he's a more brutalistic "Murder you now" type of fighter .
Though it might be a fun fighting method at lower levels 🤔

[rare oar]

Another really fun thing to build on would be a crit build around the new crusher feat... Anytime you crit with crusher feat, ALL ATTACKS against the particular enemy are now at advantage.

[tight kite]

I wasnt sure where to put this but, Im not the best at making character sheets, would someone be able to help me with a character idea i have please?

[woven flint]

I wish dms would remember they can actually REWARD feats to players, admittedly

[rare oar]

My DM has awarded feats.

[woven flint]

#character-discussion should help

[tight kite]

ty

[woven flint]

Np, have fun, adventurer!

[tight kite]

Ill try

[obtuse bobcat]

hi guys, im new to dnd my friends been asking me to play with them for more than a year but ivebeen busy and now i wanna learn csuse jt looks fun

[woven flint]

Welcome! We're glad to have you :>

[tight kite]

welcome to dnd

[rare oar]

Best thing to do would be to #looking-for-players and ask if beginner friendly.

[obtuse bobcat]

thanks guys when they play i just watch them on the side i still cant understand stand stuff

i mean i get the basics but… i feel like theres more

[tight kite]

Roll dice, hope for the best XD

[rare oar]

There's a LOT to know, but honestly, the two things you really only need to remember is...

1. None of the people (especially the DM) are your "enemy" or "opponent".
2. You're here to have fun, so act like it and give others the same benefit of the doubt.
   (and one thing that might help is knowing this: Flavor is free, rules govern mostly game mechanics).

[obtuse bobcat]

but why i sometimes see like my friends casting a spell on each other like paralysis or somethjng

[rare oar]

Shenanigans, IDK your friends, some tables allow PVP, but unless you're really good friends who know the difference between jabbing at each other and overt malice, it's generally discouraged.

[woven flint]

3. No D&D is better than bad D&D
   if you're uncomfortable or feel like you're being bullied, talk to the people at your group, but, if it doesn't work, nothings stopping you from leaving

[obtuse bobcat]

i mean yeah theyre just having fun i got jealous lmao

[tight kite]

Shenanigans, what an amazing word

[rare oar]

Shenanigans explains like 90% of what DND is lol

[woven flint]

Shenanigans are very fun

[tight kite]

Its like the word was made for DnD

"So whats the game like?"

"Shenanigans"

[burnt valley]

The DM is Saxton Hale but with the Tool Gun from Gmod and the players goal is to somehow "win"

[rare oar]

I mean DND is make believe with rules and dice and an arbiter who is heavily in your favor but still tries to give you a challenge.

[woven flint]

The goal of D&D isn't to "Win" its to tell a compelling story and have fun with your friends

[tight kite]

^

[obtuse bobcat]

ayo tf2 mentoned

[burnt valley]

literally VSH but in a ttrpg 😭

[obtuse bobcat]

im srry im new to this idk what vsh is…

[remote wadi]

Okay, so I might be a bit of an idiot...

[obtuse bobcat]

but ik ttrp means tabletop role playing game

[burnt valley]

Its a community game mode called Versus Saxton Hale

[woven flint]

Yes... and? /joking

[tight kite]

what did you do?

[rare oar]

The two hardest things for a DM are...

1. To tell an interesting enough story to keep the players engages, but not so complex that people can't remember without keeping pages and pages of notes.
2. Maintain player goodwill and dynamic on some level (although it also requires them to take responsibility).

[remote wadi]

I completely forgot of a homebrew rule my campaign DM had from the start I should have used more often

[tight kite]

naughty

[woven flint]

Shame! Shame this individual everyone!!!!

Nah, it happens, homebrew can be hard to remember

[burnt valley]

Most people tend to treat the rules as half optional in favour of a better narrative and i disagree on the Arbiter being in favour of the players cuz they actually arent

[remote wadi]

"During moments where you have time to do something properly without rushing it, you can choose to make that action passively"

[woven flint]

Dungeon Masters aren't SUPPOSED to be against the player, they're supposed to provide the challenge and give the reward for defeating it

[remote wadi]

Basically, if I have time to do an action instead of trying to do it quickly, I can have the roll just be 10+modifiers

[remote wadi]

@woven flint Why didn't I just use this from the start?

[woven flint]

I'm not you, so I wouldn't know

[remote wadi]

Rhetorical

[glass granite]

Hi not you, I’m Nugget

[tight kite]

is that niffler?!

[glass granite]

Well I’ll be damned

[glass granite]

Wearing a Hufflepuff scarf!

[remote wadi]

Saying it would have solved me quite a few problems. And yes. I did change that beginning part to that instead of adding "I'm" because of your arrival

[tight kite]

I absolutely love it!

[remote wadi]

You know who you are

[remote wadi]

Can't say no to some consistent, albeit average rolls

[glass granite]

That’s reliable talent but for out of encounter situations

Pretty damn good

[remote wadi]

Basically, yeah. Or I could technically apply that to the beginning of combat if playing stealthily

Lowkey, all those homebrew rules are not so bad now because it feels like that was for me specifically /hj

[burnt valley]

Homebrew rules?

[remote wadi]

There are a solid chunk of them in my campaign, some of which provide questionable buffs to already great classes

But this one actually helps me out pretty well

[burnt valley]

Ah

[glass granite]

Granted, this is technically gonna give you a below average roll. But it’s good for mundane but important things

[remote wadi]

Technically, it can apply to any activity that takes time to accomplish

Studying items you acquired, cooking animals you caught, preparing poisons and potions

[glass granite]

My point is that if it’s a hard thing to do, passively studying it won’t cut it

[remote wadi]

It could also be something like getting the first shots off on an enemy during a surprise round. You can just ready your weapon and get ready to fire

[glass granite]

You can’t roll higher than a 10 after all

[remote wadi]

10 plus modifers

[glass granite]

Which is good if you’re very good at what you’re doing

[remote wadi]

Meaning that if I were to, say, ready my ranged weapon at my first target during a sneak attack

I can treat the roll as a guaranteed hit solely from modifiers

Then I can attack others normally with a surprise attack and advantage

The only requirement is "be able to accomplish task without rushing it"

[glass granite]

(Assuming their AC is low enough)
You should be hitting those shots anyway, but having a guaranteed hit for your reaction is nice

(I assume you mean the Ready Action)

[remote wadi]

...my current hit modifier is +10

[glass granite]

That’s pretty good

[remote wadi]

That's a dirty 20 on hit

[glass granite]

Wait have ya leveled up?
Could’ve sworn you were at level 4

[remote wadi]

Lvl 5

[glass granite]

Noice. Did you take the ranger level?

[hallow sun]

hi

[glass granite]

Hallo

[tight kite]

Does anyone know how to make a good character sheet properly? i suck

[jovial shadow]

Where is this Mentioned?

[glass granite]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character
maybe that might help

[remote wadi]

Yep. Changing spells too. Trying to go for Absorb Elements, Entangle, Magic Weapon, and probably Cordon of Arrows

[glass granite]

Not bad. Not familiar with Cordon of Arrows tho

[tight kite]

yea the class i want, isnt something i have access too on dndbeyond

[reef copper]

Define good. The regular sheet has a decent layout atleast for low level play

[remote wadi]

Wizard will have Enhance Ability, Druid with PWT. If not, then swap MW for PWT

[glass granite]

Do you own the book physically?

[tight kite]

last time I tried to make one on my own...it was messy and incorrect

[tight kite]

No...im semi new to dnd

[remote wadi]

In short, IMS from CoD

[glass granite]

Not familiar

[remote wadi]

Gtg back to work now. Ttyl

[glass granite]

Hi semi new to dnd. I’m Nugget.

[glass granite]

Is it artificer or a subclass or a homebrew one?

[tight kite]

Nom

[tight kite]

Artificer yes

[glass granite]

Damn it Dottore

[reef copper]

What i usualy do is write it in a docx document so i can customize my rows. And then you can copy either the link to an ability or the entire wording into the document from your class or background

[glass granite]

You might wanna find a game where a DM can share the artificer with you

In the meantime try making practice characters with classes you have to get a feel for it

[reef copper]

This joke does become funnier everytime. Not even kidding

[tight kite]

I found a premade one....

[thin orchid]

Yo guys if there's any Indian dnd player who has bought the hell fire or normal starter set online can u share the link as I can't find it

[obtuse bobcat]

hi so my friends gave me these dices ill send it in… oh nvm no channel for media

[umbral girder]

#merch-and-dice you can send them here!

[obtuse bobcat]

sent

[warm summit]

Power Word Tiptoe

[rain holly]

Is ghost of saltmarsh good

Without spoilers for the campaign

[rough basalt]

From what I've heard, it has some issues, but they're easy to fix and overall it's decent to good.

[rain holly]

Ok thanks btw what are those issues

[remote wadi]

People keep calling it power word, but that one actually works

[rough basalt]

Just the usual anthology issues where some might be better than others

[rain holly]

Ok

[rough basalt]

And might need some touchups

[rain holly]

Ok

[remote wadi]

Don't know if you saw the news, but my campaign is turning around

Druid says they're going to stop causing problems and work with us

And I remembered a homebrew rule that the DM uses which will help me out a ton

[spice crane]

Thats awesome news! Sounds like things are finally clicking into place. If the Druid’s on board and that homebrew rule works in your favor thats a huge momentum shift

[rough basalt]

That's good

[knotty ermine]

hello 👋

I'm new her and never played dnd before

is it possible for me to find groub and how?

[wicked lotus]

I just joined but theres a #find-a-game channel

[rain holly]

Yeah that

[stuck shuttle]

If you’re starting completely fresh I’d also have a look at #learn-to-play where you can find a bunch of newbie links, including to the free Basic Rules

And then #dnd-newcomers can help answer any additional questions you might have

[knotty ermine]

OK thanks everyone for the help ♥️

[tame estuary]

so let's say the battlemap is using 10ft per square, and you can't easily make the tokens smaller, what do you do?

can't easily change the size of the map either like zooming in and out

[remote wadi]

Usually, they do 5 ft if memory serves

Also, I think I found a sweet combo to try out when I can

[rough basalt]

Made some new "side quests" for my encounter table for my Monday game I like.

[idle oar]

Sounds like a #homebrew topic

But if you describe it folks can maybe help flesh out the stat block

[still plover]

Play with 10' squares and don't sweat it. Round down for baddies and up for players (or the wood elf gets miffed their 35' move is only three squares).

[remote wadi]

Anyways, wanted to try out a small combo for next sessions

Thoughts on Poisoner + Cordon of Arrows + Restraining spells?

If it works like i think it does, it can keep someone stuck for a good while

[undone rain]

So what is exactly chaotic good

[remote wadi]

Trying to do the right thing when you can, but not really caring about the means too much

[undone rain]

Ah sort of anti villian. Does good things but dosent exactly have a moral code

[remote wadi]

Think like finding a pouch of coins that someone lost, but searching for the person who lost it yourself instead of the advised option of turning it over to the authorities

[undone rain]

Ahhaaa

[still plover]

Your laws don't apply to me and could probably use some rigorous testing anyway. I'm going to help folk out how I can.

[undone rain]

Thank you, it was a bit confusing so

[undone rain]

Ahhhhh

Thank you thank you

And lawful good is just mr goody two shoes

[remote wadi]

Yeah. Doing good for the sake it it being good

[undone rain]

Like your average oath of devotion paladin

[remote wadi]

Just remember that alignments are a loose summary

[undone rain]

Yeah figures

I feel like playing chaotic evil just ruins things at times. Like being a full on murder hobo or ruining things for the party

[remote wadi]

You can find good ways to play chaotic evil

They just require calculated evil and can sometimes be convinced to act later: like fattening an animal before being harvested

In my book, things like murder hobo and other disruptive actions are more aligned with neutral evil, as their main driving force isn't "Doing evil for the sake of it being evil", it's just for their own fun and amusement

[hidden spindle]

I saw Chaotic good more like... too good for their own sake

They'd pick you up at the airport at 4am even if they work at 6am.

Lawful Good would not.

[knotty ermine]

testing <t:1768475700:d>

another <t:1768475700:S>

[knotty ermine]

hey guys what do u see here?

[undone rain]

Ahhh that sort of thing

[reef tundra]

1/15/26, 11:15:00 AM

[undone rain]

I like that sort of thing

[hidden spindle]

01/15/2026
01/15/2026 & 5:15:00 AM

[reef tundra]

I’ve always loved chaotic good characters (most of them)

But just like all alignments, a lot of characters of those alignments can be very very bad and annoying

[undone rain]

As long as they dont try to do so good that they end up hurting others

[knotty ermine]

nice it show time in ur time zone it's 14:15 for me

[reef tundra]

But since it’s a chaotic alignment, god knows they get it worse than others

[hidden spindle]

Its also 1 year ahead

-# Scratch that

[knotty ermine]

buddy it's 2026

[hot marlin]

I take it you've never had the Incubus definition of the alignments, yes?

[reef tundra]

2025 brain

[hidden spindle]

Oh lawd...

[reef tundra]

I’m in the same boat, Shye 😭

[knotty ermine]

it's ok 30 isn't that old ..

[hot marlin]

I go by this rule: A character is lawful if that character is likely to compromise their principles, do things they do not want to do, for the sake of social order, codes and tradition.
A character is chaotic if that character is likely to go against social order, codes and tradition for the sake of their own principles or wants.
A character is good if that character is likely to sacrifice their comfort and health in order to prevent the suffering of others and defend their dignity.
A character is evil if that character is likely to cause the suffering of others and attack their dignity.

[glass granite]

Hi in the same boat, I’m Nugget!

[reef tundra]

Probably the reason it’s so debated on what people of certain alignments are like is because it isn’t prescriptive and they’ll all be different even if they’re of the same alignment

[hidden spindle]

I see... So it would be opposite with picking someone up at the airport at 4am when you work at 6am. Lawful Good would. Chaotic Good wouldn't.

Tricky...

[thin orchid]

Hi I'm I keep using the same joke

[glass granite]

Odd name, but nice ta meet ya anyway!

[thin orchid]

Np

Why is ur name nugget when ur a bird

[hot marlin]

That is a weirdly good example.

[glass granite]

…a Niffler is not a bird.
Also it’s just a nickname

[pulsar fossil]

aadit oe]r superdupergoodboy

[thin orchid]

What is a niffler

[glass granite]

A fictional animal

[eager marsh]

That's clearly a platypus

[thin orchid]

Ohh

[reef tundra]

It’s a niffler

[glass granite]

I’ll also accept that answer

[eager marsh]

Nature's miscellaneous bin

[hidden spindle]

I thought it twas a platypus!

[reef tundra]

? (Right?)

[glass granite]

Yup

[pulsar fossil]

A Platypus?

Wears a hat

[eager marsh]

Nugget the Platypus!

[thin orchid]

[reef tundra]

Perry the platypus!

[eager marsh]

His name is clearly Nugget not Perry

[glass granite]

Tis a Niffler, but many get it wrong anyway so I accept platypus

[reef tundra]

You have an adorable pfp

[glass granite]

Why are we parrying the platypus?

[reef tundra]

My pfp is my soul animal

[eager marsh]

Because we can never let Justin Wong forget

[thin orchid]

Midol finger

[reef tundra]

To get the riposte

[thin orchid]

💀🛡️🗡️

[reef tundra]

Dark souls brain

[glass granite]

Riposte*

[hidden spindle]

Repost~

[thin orchid]

RAH RAH RAH

[reef tundra]

Die /j

[glass granite]

Done

[thin orchid]

☃️
🫴

🫳
🦫

Violently grabs beaver

[remote wadi]

You wouldn't get it

[hot marlin]

Fun fact: The Clairvoyance spell creates an invisible sensor "the size of your fist". Therefore, if the caster is a storm giant, the invisible sensor sent to spy on the castle is bigger than any person

[hidden spindle]

Skulker: What is that!? I just wanted to Sneak...

[willow geode]

Crazy how if you're very unlucky and con is your dump stat your lvl 20 wizard would have 21hp

That's 3 Con, rolling a 1 on the 1d6 every level up

If my math is right

[glass granite]

Hm…

[willow geode]

Rolling 3d6 for stats is used sometimes

[glass granite]

I keep getting 22

[severe rampart]

Usually it's 4d6 then drop the lowest number, but yeah that's still possible

[glass granite]

Wait is it minus 4 or minus 3

Nvm yup 21

[willow geode]

I'm a big point buy fan so I'd never have something like this. With point buy tho the minimum is 44 at level 20

[hidden spindle]

-4 Modifier for CON3

[willow geode]

That's a con of 8

[glass granite]

Isn’t it 24?

5 at level 1, 1 for the others?

[hidden spindle]

I thought that too but the 1st level also incorporates CON mod

6 + -4

[willow geode]

Yeah, I was figuring that out as you typed that haha

[hidden spindle]

I've recently enjoyed Standard Array. It's just quick and neutral

[willow geode]

Looks like 24 since -4 and -1 are treated the same after level 1 for the sake of hp gained being a minimum of 1

[remote wadi]

1. That would be close to impossible odds
2. If memory serves, you have the option to take the dice average rounded up + modifiers for the HP

[hot gate]

You either take the average or roll, you can't decide to take the average after rolling

[remote wadi]

So getting a 4 from a possible 6 is usually the best idea. 16% no change, 33% minor change, 50% downgrade

[remote wadi]

Which for a Wizard, why would you try to gamble for only a couple extra HP?

[willow geode]

I like point buy because it helps give a better sense of specialization for me. You'd give up the basics in a certain category to be above average in another, diminishing returns adds more depth to specialized characters.

[hidden spindle]

Even with taking the average, you apply modifiers. Which brings it to 1 after modifiers.

That's why you gamble. Nothing to lose and everything to gain

[hot gate]

People like to gamble, what can I say

[remote wadi]

If they do that, I can't stop them. But if they're that obsessed, you can use an irl persuasion check to have them not waste their good luck on meaningless rolls

[tame estuary]

I mean I kinda rolled for an unoptimal character and is stuck with her until she dies

it will come

[hot gate]

With disadvantage if you use those words

[remote wadi]

Not really. It's 4 out of a possible 6. That's a very good roll to have. If it was a Ranger or other d10s, there's a small appeal. And for a Barbarian... I don't see why not

[willow geode]

1 / 789,730,223,053,602,816

[hidden spindle]

When it comes to players, maybe its just me but I've grown tired of trying to teach them the Point Buy system

[willow geode]

I might be wrong but that's what I got

[remote wadi]

Of course not. But I prefer my talking with Wisdom/Intelligence stats. Some concern about how I say it, but focusing more on what I say

[hidden spindle]

Whoa, I'm a Human.

I get Heroic Inspiration baby

[glass granite]

1/6^4 odds iirc

[hot gate]

Aha. Sure.

[remote wadi]

For all 19 level ups?

[glass granite]

For 3 constitution

[remote wadi]

3 con would be just a negative modifier, wouldn't it?

[glass granite]

-4

[hidden spindle]

You roll because its the only chance to get more than 1 Hit Point

[remote wadi]

So there is a chance you just get no HP for the level up

[willow geode]

This is for rolling 4 1d6s at the same time and getting all 1s. Followed by rolling 19 1d6s and getting all 1s again.

[hidden spindle]

Minimum is 1

[glass granite]

You always have to get at least 1

[remote wadi]

So with a -4 modifier and getting a 2 on the d6, you still get at least 1 HP?

[glass granite]

Yes

[willow geode]

Would be funny though if your con was so low you slowly wither and lose max hp as you level up, eventually dying from it.

[remote wadi]

So your numbers are off, then

[glass granite]

If I’m calculating correctly, it’s:
1/6^4x(5/6)^19

[hidden spindle]

Average 4, with -4 =1 (1 minimum)
Roll:
1= 1
2= 1
3= 1
4= 1
5= 1
6= 2

[remote wadi]

Odds are 1/6⁴ × (2/3)¹⁹

[glass granite]

5/6, not 2/3

1-5 all end up with a 1

[remote wadi]

Well, no

Ahhh. My mistake

[hidden spindle]

Good thing they thought of it in '14 as well. A minimum of 1 Hit Point

[willow geode]

Your numbers are wrong because it calculates the chance that the later dice are anything except the desired result rather than all matching it again.

[willow cipher]

i guess i just dodged a bullet, got blocked trying to apply for a campaign bc i used the word "sorta"

[glass granite]

Woah

[stuck shuttle]

That’s uhh, that sure is something

[willow cipher]

ikr 😭

[glass granite]

That it is

That is a reason of all time

[remote wadi]

The only number that makes a difference to the HP gained is a 6. Meaning to calculate the odds of getting the lowest HP possible, you would need to calculate each roll as 5/6

[glass granite]

Nice catch

[willow geode]

Sorta incel behaviour on their part

[willow cipher]

fr 😭

[remote wadi]

So I believe Nugget's formula is correct

[glass granite]

Should be…
1/6^4 x (1-(1/6)^19-
wait no

[remote wadi]

...and I thought my run in with a past DM was harsh...

[remote wadi]

No, you had it right the first time

[hidden spindle]

You could also reroll the 6 with Heroic Inspiration... if you wanted...

[willow geode]

Ah you're right, my numbers were purely from the mindset that I wanted to roll only 1s

[remote wadi]

It was (1/6)^4 × (5/6) ^ 19

[remote wadi]

So those odds can still be calculated, but it's easier to do it based on the effective outcome as opposed to a specific

Anyways, odds are less than twenty thousandth of a percent

[willow cipher]

"My advice is, don't look for a game if you aren't sure if you want one." blocks me in 0.1ms before i can say "what", epic reddit moment im sure he'll get reddit gold with that

[remote wadi]

In other words, odds so miniscule that I wouldn't pay them any mind

Unless, of course, they are happening to me, then the odds are never zero

[remote wadi]

For him thinking he's some sage of communication and social interactions, he sure as heck doesn't understand what filler words are

[willow cipher]

tbh idk what those are either 😭

[tame estuary]

you're no fun

[remote wadi]

Like, they're what people say when, um, they can't really say the entire thing but like need to fill in the gap somehow, know what I mean?

[willow cipher]

oh okay yeah i get it

[remote wadi]

No, I'm Bloodline. I also know that they don't have nearly impossible levels of bad luck

[severe rampart]

Dear god Nugget got you too

[willow geode]

So yeah, you'd still need to roll 4 1s at the start but the numbers following are allowed to be anything below 1-5 depending on your constitution score. Still low chance but much better odds compared to what I was calculating which was only suited for a con of 8

[remote wadi]

(Besides, if i was no fun, I would shut down the calculations immediately instead of helping them out on it)

[severe rampart]

tbh if I rolled a 3 in constitution I would just reroll everything

[remote wadi]

I missed my opportunities to make a "last year" joke. Cashing in my freebie

[remote wadi]

That's honestly why if I become a DM, I'll allow a rule to reroll 1s as many times as needed

[tame estuary]

honestly, people online are kind of a mixed bag, like sure give people the benefit of the doubt, but it's just, a lot of people are very comfortable to making other people suffer

I'm very guilty of this as well

[severe rampart]

my DM has a strict "+9" limit, ability scores added up should be at least "+6" so you're not too weak but the maximum is "+9" so you're not too OP (this was because someone got three 19s or something)

[rough basalt]

+9 would be like 28 or 29 in a stat

[tame estuary]

proficiency only gives so much

[rough basalt]

Ah wait I get it

[willow geode]

I think my favourite thing when it comes to talking about probability is explaining the monty hall problem to people who think it makes no sense

[rough basalt]

Still even with a 20 at level 1 the highest you can get is 9 on skills with expertise.

[remote wadi]

I'll own up to it as well fwiw

[tame estuary]

huh? nah you're the most uncomfortable one I know, you triple question everything

[rough basalt]

Skill mods on expertise classes can get hilarious later on

[willow geode]

I have online trust issues because of the Larian studios bg3 lfg channel

[rough basalt]

My rogue with a +20 in SoH is just hysterical to me

[severe rampart]

Holy crap

You better be a world level con artist

[rough basalt]

Nah, just very good at opening locks

[tame estuary]

steals our kills mostly lmao

[severe rampart]

It's so difficult when my character is more charismatic than me, which usually is always

[rough basalt]

*secures

[willow geode]

It's hard to find people when your time and effort keeps getting wasted by people who ghost online

[willow cipher]

yeah i get it too, im not much of a good person either, but it just boggles my mind a lot how people can live so much in their own world where responses like that seem okay to them. still im glad i didn't get into a campaign with them, i can imagine the slightest thing would've gotten me kicked out 😭

[knotty pasture]

Oh yeah don't bother with playing bg3 with randos online lol, its nigh impossible to even get out of act 1

[severe rampart]

I am lucky to have found a group that doesn't do that

[tame estuary]

eh, it's just a game, gotta have an expectation that it's a game you know, people aren't looking for friends

[willow cipher]

yea ig

[willow geode]

I like things irl because if you're using a platform like discord it's so easy for people to screw you over by just never replying again or blocking everyone involved

[rough basalt]

Came up with these side quests that give an evolving magic item.
Now I need to make the actual item.

[knotty pasture]

Steal some random item from bg3

[rough basalt]

Nah they're tattoos so gonna need to look through my magic item catalogs and other homebrew for inspiration

[willow cipher]

i honestly might try irl soon bc of the same reasons

[knotty pasture]

Aw damn tattoos are harder

[severe rampart]

Tattoos, as a magic item?

[rough basalt]

They're a thing in Tashas

[tame estuary]

highly recommend irl games if you can

[remote wadi]

I mean making people suffer. But in my defense, I overall save that for people who genuinely deserve it. Outside of this server 99% of the time

[rough basalt]

But these tattoos are more of a permanent thing unlike usual magic tattoos

[knotty pasture]

You already make us suffer half the time /hj

[severe rampart]

I like some "magic items" ripped from some animes, like in Gachiakuta where the more emotional or sentimental you are to an item, it can become a weapon and it gets really creative at times

[rough basalt]

Basically you get a unfilled in tattoo outline on your arm with 3 quests only you can read and upon completion, the tattoo partially fills in and grants you power.

[tame estuary]

I can go to an irl, but like it's 3 hour bus to get there and then 3 hour bus to get back, and even when on my computer, people won't stop pulling me away to do things

[severe rampart]

Sounds really neat

[willow geode]

I've had some DMs that dream too big with magic items so I like to keep mine simple with a word limit for each rarity unless it's a joke item.

[tame estuary]

the player should be the one homebrewing the magic item, honestly

[rough basalt]

Well too bad they get what they get

[severe rampart]

adds in a very small note in white ink "also this gives me infinite uses of wish"

[tame estuary]

no that sounds bad right but hear me out

[rough basalt]

Here's a Fire Flail wizard

[tame estuary]

it's like a white elephant, what if they just don't want it?

[rough basalt]

Then they don't take it

[severe rampart]

Give it to another party member

I'm planning to give my fart sword to the human fighter.

which is a sentence I'd never thought I'd say

[remote wadi]

Double it and pass it onto the next person. Also, that would be pretty interesting with Heat Metal

[rough basalt]

These items are completely optional.

[severe rampart]

oh my god

[tame estuary]

yeah but what if instead of a magic item given to the players, I give the magic item to my npc, and then they do funny stuff with it

[severe rampart]

The Fart Sword is just a +1 Longsword that also does 1d6 Thunder Damage

[rough basalt]

Ultimately it's just boredom lead creativity

[severe rampart]

Or the NPC reveals that they've been using the magic item all wrong

[eager marsh]

I feel like that should be poison damage

[knotty pasture]

Nah it should be acid damage

[severe rampart]

it's a really really loud reverb sound

[eager marsh]

See a doctor

[rough basalt]

But I like my idea so I'm gonna work with it

[severe rampart]

I was so embarassed by the sound I wanted to kill the kobold that guarded the sword.

[knotty pasture]

Shit that smells so bad that it starts corroding armor

[rough basalt]

Maybe make two versions of each one

[severe rampart]

I turned to the human fighter and said "Grudge, let's kill the kobold."

[rough basalt]

I like the ideas for the quests too

Like the one for the Dragon God, one part of the tattoo is complete by killing an evil dragon

[severe rampart]

He grappled me out of the room before I could vicious mockery the kobold

[tame estuary]

hmm yugioh 5ds

[rough basalt]

Doesn't matter what kind of dragon, or age of it as long as it's turned on the world it was meant to protect.

[knotty pasture]

Blue eyes white dragon

[willow cipher]

red eyes black dragon

[rough basalt]

I mean if my party wants to go to the tundra where they'll be rolling extreme cold checks every day, they're allowed to

[tame estuary]

don't the bedroll negate this?

[rough basalt]

True. That's the best part.

[willow geode]

Here's one of the more complicated magic items I've made, purely just a lot of text. https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/10775062-thorn-of-the-gloaming-prince

[rough basalt]

Course it won't protect them from Blizzards.

[eager marsh]

I don’t believe the bedroll item does anything for extreme weather

[rough basalt]

It protects against extreme cold iirc

Yeah it automatically checks against extreme cold while you're in it

But it's also an hourly check

[willow geode]

One of my players was having a rough time, he was trying to go melee only as a fey warlock and had a hard time keeping up with the rest of the party so far. So I gave him a useful item to give him a better idea of what to do during combat.

[tame estuary]

the stuff you found out if you actually read what your gear does

[rough basalt]

No idea what I wanna do for these items, I just wanted something new to add to encounter table.

[knotty pasture]

Melee only Warlocks are rough without Hexblade, even then Hexblade isn't super good at pure melee

[tame estuary]

2014 content only smh

[rough basalt]

Since they're quests that can enrich a sandbox

[tame estuary]

fey warlocks are super good for melee now

[knotty pasture]

Tbh that part of my nickname is more because of

People would ping me here and loredump about how 2024 works now and (optionally) how much nicer it is regardless of whatever I'm talking about

[remote wadi]

By the way, got 2 updates about the campaign

[rough basalt]

The Goddess of Magic ones are fun and simple
Basically just tells you to level up and build a place that fits your caster type.

[knotty pasture]

I don't play 2024, I don't really care enough for the loredump either...

[tame estuary]

I go here to discuss dnd, part of that is to keep up with the conversations lmao

[knotty pasture]

I personally zone out of 2024 discussions or continue on as if it was 2014 anyways

[willow cipher]

2014 is only 3 months away...

[knotty pasture]

I guess its like if I kept bringing up bg3 24/7 because I think bg3 is so much cooler than 5e in mechanics

[severe rampart]

Suffering... 2014 is 12 years ago...

[tame estuary]

just a week away, 2014 is in a week, wohoo

[severe rampart]

Where'd the time go

[willow geode]

The item was pretty much a rapier that pushes him to use enchantment or illusion spells during combat as it let him attack as a BA afterwards and deal extra 1d4 per turn to enemies affected by those spells

[marble lion]

Nowhere

[knotty pasture]

I digress, but yes that's basically the origin of this wordy nickname

[remote wadi]

So, if anyone didn't hear the news for my campaign

[rough basalt]

I need more dnd

[willow cipher]

nooooo despair

[knotty pasture]

Half the time people disrespect it and loredump anyways but it was better than before

[rough basalt]

So I stop becoming the thing I hate the most (homebrewing the 5e out of 5e)

[tame estuary]

?

[willow geode]

I tried to keep it balanced, but the item could've used one less effect. Since the description is a mouthful

[tame estuary]

oh that's you asking for 2014 content only?

[knotty pasture]

Half the time people disrespect my nickname and loredump about what changed in 2024 anyways regardless of the topic, but it was better than before where people do it all the time

[tame estuary]

sorry I read that as meaning you're playing 2014 games only

[past latch]

im more curious why people care that much

[tame estuary]

I didn't know it's a well demand is a harsh word for it, I forgot what the word is

[past latch]

it's like a personal slight against them that you're not playing 2024

[knotty pasture]

Idk I mean I know this server is pro 2024 but people really like to rub it in your face over it

[remote wadi]

So not only is druid coming around and not bring a problem player

But I overlooked a great homebrew rule that benefits Ranger quite a bit

Rare, but meaningful W

[knotty pasture]

Hey Sublime did you know that Barb is really hecking good right now in 2024???

[past latch]

hot take: people can play what they want to

[knotty pasture]

"Uh okay but we were talking about-"

"World Tree Barbarian, good, powerful, has utility, amazing, 2024 rocks!!"

[tame estuary]

yeah maybe make a please at the end of the thing so it's more obvious?

[marble lion]

Yeah but it might get annoying if ppl keep talking to you about specifically the other version when you really dont care

[past latch]

i only like 2024 more because i can spam grapple more

[tame estuary]

genuinely I didn't know this is a problem for you, had I understood that I wouldn't bring it up

[marble lion]

No reasonable person will actually be hostile to 24

[knotty pasture]

All caps for good measure

[marble lion]

Its just being exhausted from boring news

[past latch]

people are known to be unreasonable

[marble lion]

Indeed

[past latch]

the lesson of the day: people suck sometimes

[tame estuary]

🙁

[knotty pasture]

This server shills 2024 way too hard lol

[remote wadi]

For those interested about the homebrew rule, you can make a roll 10 + modifiers as long as you can reasonably accomplish the task without rushing it

[marble lion]

Its the new shiny thing

[knotty pasture]

If it is really that good people will flock to it, bg3 didn't become GOTY because its fanbase kept harassing the dnd community about how its god's gift to man

[wanton sorrel]

Yeah I noticed that too... which I love classics... so i think i'm the only one who talks about first edition

[marble lion]

People come here to.... discuss dnd

2024 is the new dnd

[pliant sapphire]

Its the most recent version of the game, of course most of the people is more interested than 2014

[marble lion]

Welllllll being resistant to change is also very human

[tame estuary]

I don't really want to feel unwelcomed about talking and discussing about it

[marble lion]

Thats why you also see a lot of opponents to it who keep saying they hate it

[willow geode]

I think as the versions progress, DND became less niche and more newbie friendly. I had a much better time getting friends into playing through the 2024 rulebooks than I did with the 2014 ones. 2014 was gold, but I can definitely tell that they really tried to make 2024 an improvement on what was good in 2014.

[wanton sorrel]

change is good!!! but sometimes change can be for the worse...

[severe rampart]

She-Ra is staring at me at every corner, isn't it

[knotty pasture]

I will reiterate that I don't hate 2024, but I also don't care enough to be loredumped about its patch notes regardless of the context

[wanton sorrel]

Maybe?

[marble lion]

I do think its silly to think people celebrating dnds latest edition in the official dnd server is a bad thing though

[knotty pasture]

Don't really wanna be converted to 2024 through constant coercing of how the new version is better

[tame estuary]

oh ok

[marble lion]

But yes leave people alone who prefer 14 about conversion

[severe rampart]

I do not care for the lore of DnD, I do not know the lady of pain, I'll only get to know them if they're relevant in a campaign I'm playing in

[marble lion]

That bores me

[glad arch]

I care for dnd lore as much as any other game lore, its gotta be interesting by itself

[remote wadi]

@knotty pasture Yo, did you see my update?

[willow geode]

I personally think 2024 is very enjoyable and it grows on me more by the session

[tame estuary]

I guess being mindful about what I say and who I say them to isn't completely unreasonable

[wanton sorrel]

Luuk I fully agree on this.... Lore should be great of any game.

[hidden spindle]

I played a '14 game. I thought it was weird they didn't use '24 rules. Thought it was preference when they said they didn't know '24. I was wrong. Didn't even know '14 rules.

[rough basalt]

I hated the '14 corebooks so the '24 update was the best thing for me.

[tame estuary]

hard to please everyone
I honestly have no idea what to say

[rough basalt]

I always felt forced into certain character options if I didn't wanna feel drastically weaker than others.

[warm summit]

Dude I don't even like the 2014 rules but it's the current edition of DnD you're not gonna avoid discussion of it in modern DND spaces. I really wish this place wasn't so 5e oriented

Or corporate

[rough basalt]

Well it's called the dnd server and 5e is the current edition of dnd so it makes sense they'd be oriented around the current state.

While still having a dedicated channel for old editions.

[willow geode]

5.5e right?

[hidden spindle]

Just 5e

[knotty pasture]

No its not like I want to avoid them, I don't really mind if it happens around me

[still plover]

Uh, welcome to the official D&D server?

[warm summit]

Uh, I acknowledged this

[knotty pasture]

I just don't like the fact that I can be talking about 2014 and there's always someone jumping in and loredumping about what the 2024 patch notes are

[remote wadi]

Honestly, with what important news I had for my campaign, I feel like very few people are actually responding to it

[tame estuary]

the world doesn't revolve around you you know

[rough basalt]

DnD 4e has a semi-active discord, but idk if any other edition has the same thing

[oak grotto]

I just realized that a handful of new races have been released?

[tame estuary]

it's fine if people want to be excited

[knotty pasture]

Hey Sublime do you know that in 2024, Pact of the Blade Warlock is so much better?!?!

[limber trail]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did

[hidden spindle]

*sigh... You can count them with one hand

[oak grotto]

I'm curious about something. Are khoravar meant to be the new half-elves?

[knotty pasture]

The world also doesn't revolve around people who don't want to be pinged yet we respect them anyways

[remote wadi]

Not asking it to, but like. Some people have been interested in the figurative saga so far

[rough basalt]

Yeah they're half elves

[wanton sorrel]

i wish there was a classic first edition discord but it seems i ended up here.... because I made a D&D beyond account.

[tame estuary]

I wasn't talking to you

[willow geode]

I think you're bringing it up more than we are, I think it's very high maintenance behaviour to try and control what people say to you

[oak grotto]

Wow. This really passed under my rather. This is good.

[remote wadi]

Oh. Seemed like it. I apologize

[rough basalt]

Oldest I've seen was a 3.5e server but it was dead last I checked

[oak grotto]

Now we just need half-orcs.

[knotty pasture]

Hold up I brought it up once exactly the whole time I was here and it was this convo

[warm summit]

Oh there are actually, there's just comparatively fewer spaces for it

[rough basalt]

Because of age

[oak grotto]

Frankly we got so many races atm I'm cool with what we got.

[mental lichen]

i thought level 3 sorcerers only had 4 prepared spells but in dnd beyond it says i can have 6

[tame estuary]

I don't know it's like policing people by putting "No Ping" on your name

[oak grotto]

Though maybe they should have remastered more races.

[knotty pasture]

And we respect them don't we

[willow geode]

Guy at my table been playing DND for ages, according to him there used to be massive stacks of paper

[lean wigeon]

maybe you might wanna try some OSR communities? like, OSRIC is just 1e with the serial numbers filed off

[knotty pasture]

Like we don't complain to Dave about how he's being weird

[willow geode]

Seems the rulebooks get thinner as versions progress

[tame estuary]

I don't

[knotty pasture]

Which he isn't we respect his choices

[wanton sorrel]

ok i should start looking then.

[oak grotto]

Ngl being pinged is kinda annoying unless it's for something important.

[rough basalt]

3.5e for example they were releasing new content every month

[warm summit]

That's not policing people it's setting a boundary for how you want to be interacted with

[tame estuary]

you know what, I'm going to express my free will, I can block people too

[rough basalt]

WotC was just printing stuff out and shoving it out the door

[oak grotto]

I mean it's just clicking a button but ok.

[rough basalt]

It was the wild west, wotc was just fanning the hammer of their printers with content

[still plover]

The heady days of the OGL.

[knotty pasture]

Yeah go for it, no one's stopping you with the blocks

[rough basalt]

Then the 4e nation attacked

[willow geode]

I imagine it was a different kind of fun to have so many rules

[wintry spindle]

I hope they rerelease tomb of anihilation

[rough basalt]

Don't need to

[tame estuary]

again?

[wintry spindle]

With an alt art cover

[rough basalt]

Probably

It is funny how 4e is the base or a big inspiration for a number of current successful tabletop games.

2024
Draw Steel
Daggerheart
Lancer
Pf2e

[tame estuary]

ah reprint?

[wintry spindle]

Ye

[warm summit]

I hear from plenty of people that 4e was a solid game it just shouldn't have been an edition of DND

[wintry spindle]

I want it to match my 2024 alt cover books

[rough basalt]

4e's issues were primarily corporate.

They had a lot of not smart people in charge of decision making

[tame estuary]

I mean it must work if pathfinder is popular

[warm summit]

Pathfinder is based on 3.5 not 4

[rough basalt]

Like they ruined the Forgotten Realms so bad and made a lot of outside FR writers quit and almost made RA Salvatore stop writing the Drizzt franchise.

And they also treated Paizo like crap

[hot marlin]

Those people are repeating a meaningless shibboleth. 4e was a D&D edition and it was not jarring or meaningfully different from other edition changes. In fact, 4e is far closer to 3e than 3e was close to 2e.

[rough basalt]

They also treated Ed Greenwood (FR creator) like shit and made him cry with how they gutted his world, a sign of good things is the new FR book credits him

It was all for love of the game too, purely out of boredom /j

[quasi dome]

4e is good and it fixes most of the issues people have with 5e, mechanically; if DnD beyond existed for 4e it’d be the only edition I played

[hot marlin]

The problem is that the people who said it didn't "feel like D&D" had no actual understanding of what D&D "feels like". They stopped at the surface. The fact that 4e uses different language was enough. Because those people couldn't see past the language to realize it was basically the same

[willow geode]

I saw quite a popular ATLA-based ttrpg and tried to understand the rules, ultimately I found it to be unrefined and a lot of content was stuck behind paywalls that really didn't seem worth it. The art was very well done and it was very appealing, but the combat and actual rules behind everyone felt like an afterthought. It's probably more suited for hardcore fans of the franchise who want to roleplay their own OCs in the universe.

[remote wadi]

Uhhh... am I interrupting something important?

[hot marlin]

Also yeah. WOTC went back on the OGL, alienated Paizo, messed up the lore. That was 4e's problem.

[rough basalt]

Pretty much everything except the actual game itself

[willow geode]

That being said, could anyone suggest a modern ttrpg worth its price?

[warm summit]

The difference between ADND 2E and 3.X is pretty significant though so I don't know how much that means

[rough basalt]

Shadowdark imo

[willow geode]

Saying to me?

[rough basalt]

It's like AD&D but so simple you can figure out how to play it in like 10 minutes

[hot marlin]

The 4e era can be summarized as excellent game design, terrible writing, atrocious corporate practices

[rough basalt]

Yep

[warm summit]

Plenty of games that are just as good as shadowdork for a fraction of the cost like the black hack

[hot marlin]

While the 5e era can be summarized as... Passable game design, passable writing, even worse corporate practices, I guess?

[willow geode]

Was that intentional or a spelling mistake 🤣

[rough basalt]

Yeah, the new 5e people seem to be trying at least

[hot marlin]

Define "modern"

[rough basalt]

With recognizing Ed Greenwood as FRs creator, and having Paizo welcomed back into the fold by having their 5e AV on ddb

[warm summit]

It was actually an accident the last time I did it was on purpose and it autocorrected

[willow geode]

I can rely on new content within the next year or two.

[rough basalt]

Draw Steel is good

[wanton sorrel]

modern = When things change too much

[hot marlin]

Vampire the Masquerade might interest you then. Shadowrun. Cyberpunk. The classics.

[willow geode]

Cyberpunk ttrpg because I'd get so into the slang

[rough basalt]

Shadowrun is hilarious

[tame estuary]

honestly?

[willow geode]

Choom got flatlined by some gonks cause he had messed up chrome

[rough basalt]

But it's the crunchiest system I've seen and played that's appropriate.

[warm summit]

Though really I'd take a look at electric bastionland or mythic bastionland

[hot marlin]

I don't know, the era is not over.

[tame estuary]

it's fun to run, combats are super fast

but we should not talk about it more lol, not on this channel

[rough basalt]

And the people behind 2014 era are gone

So it's not just a new revisal of the game but also of the people in charge

[willow geode]

Eyes tired af gn

Screenshotting your suggestions thanks

[rough basalt]

Tho the new people have a lot of damage they gotta rectify, and they don't have full freedom cause Hasbro so it's tough

[stoic haven]

Just played as my Astral monk, oh boy are they fun

[tame estuary]

it's kind of weird, 5e is in this place where they're trying to make it easy they're trying to make it balanced to post tasha and whatnot, but at the end of the day it's still dnd

we're still playing with spell slots and cones

[rough basalt]

The dark sun book imo will probably be the last thing I need to be sold on the new people

[limber trail]

They’re a really sick subclass. I had considered it as the subclass for my monk I’m playing.

[rough basalt]

Cause the FR books are good, but they're partially the new people and old I believe

[tame estuary]

I still don't know if the space in front of you in a cone hits, the wording is confusing

[stoic haven]

I flavored mine to have these wooden arms with veins of water as the astral arms

[rough basalt]

If they hit Dark Sun with a sanitation bomb, that'll suck, but if Dark Sun is still the grimdark setting I'll be sold.

[still plover]

Is that definitely happening? Huh. Something to watch for.

[tame estuary]

girl, you buy everything like once every two months

[rough basalt]

Not confirmed but the UAs point to it

Of course there's a chance they cancel it.

[quasi dome]

I just don’t see how there can be a 5e dark sun

[rough basalt]

They haven't announced anything for this year yet

[tame estuary]

might be dark sun related content expansion like forge of the artificer, not actual setting book

[rough basalt]

That'd be another bad ending

Cause it's a setting that hasn't been touched in 5e due to the old guys in charge

Unlike Eberron which was one of the best setting books of the 2014 era

So all it needed was an expansion touchup

Reason it hasn't been announced is probably cause it's divisive.

[wanton sorrel]

I wonder what will happened if the rumors are true for 6th edition coming out in 2027 for D&D

[still plover]

It does. Set yourself as the origin and "A Cone’s point of origin isn’t included in the area of effect unless its creator decides otherwise."

[rough basalt]

If they release it similar to the FR book which was well received by fans, there'll be people complaining about it cause "bad things happen"

And if they sanitize the setting, fans will be outraged and those people won't buy it anyways, but they'll avoid bad PR

[empty thicket]

i think they would still follow the bit of 4
2014 2024 and next 2034

[tame estuary]

why would it?

I mean I guess then 24 is just patch for everyone playing 5e

[rough basalt]

Releasing a 6e wouldn't be a good idea

[warm summit]

Why do they release a new FIFA every year

[reef copper]

Money and new football player stats

[wanton sorrel]

i think you mean all sports games

[rough basalt]

All sports games do it cause sports games players keep buying them every year

[warm summit]

I do but it was an example

[wanton sorrel]

your right

[rough basalt]

It's just a habit for them

[reef copper]

Its a working business, but i dont see how this is dnd related

[remote wadi]

Money

[rough basalt]

It wouldn't really work with dnd players either

[stoic haven]

And I just had him grapple everything with his +12 athletics

[rough basalt]

Majority of casuals don't even buy books, they just have dms who do.

And most DMs only buy if they really really want something

[empty thicket]

They wont make a service game that is in constant update, but mostly money.

[warm summit]

Thats kinda what DND beyond and the interstitial editions are about

[reef copper]

I hate how my intuition now says 12+ is a ok bonus. I have become to used to high level play XD

[rough basalt]

High level play is so fun

[reef copper]

40 is like my average dex roll

[empty thicket]

"yeah, this is fine" bro....

[stoic haven]

Very much so, hes also a Sailor/ Captain, which is funny to me

[rough basalt]

Been too long since I played dnd

[tame estuary]

you played yesterday

I guess it's the night before, for you

[reef copper]

Thats a long time tbf

[empty thicket]

12 hours its long enough

[rough basalt]

It is a long time

[remote wadi]

So, I'll say the update to my campaign before I go to sleep

[hidden spindle]

On a grid, an Aoe counts a square if at least 50% is affected.

The degree of the cone near you is: 53.1301023542⁰.

In short, you need this degree to be at or over 45⁰ for it to affect the square space in front of you. Sending a Cone in a cardinal direction cuts its effective degree in half for 26.565⁰.

You need to tilt it about 20⁰ (18.435⁰) left or right for it to affect the 1st square

[remote wadi]

Druid is being much more cooperative, good W

[tame estuary]

???

[remote wadi]

Also good W, remembered a homebrew that actually really benefits Ranger for once

[tame estuary]

does the cone start at the edge of the square or like just anywhere within the square?

[hidden spindle]

Intersection of squares. So a corner of your space

[tame estuary]

can you aim the cone towards your direction?

I don't know for smaller range or something

[hidden spindle]

You can aim it in any direction.

[wanton sorrel]

I never knew yesterday was a long time.

[empty thicket]

Neat, what they changed or added?

[wanton sorrel]

the last time i played D&D 3.5e was about since 2017... but it was in colleage but it was never completed since everyone was too busy with homework...

[remote wadi]

They already had it, just forgot until now

If you can reasonably make an action without needing to rush through it, i.e lockpicking, you can choose to make the roll a 10 + modifiers

[hidden spindle]

So use your passive score

[empty thicket]

oh? in your campaign or in 2024?

[remote wadi]

In my campaign

[empty thicket]

mmmmmmm....... yeah, its "okey"

[rain geode]

Chat for a dnd campaign should i add mindflayers or beholders

[hidden spindle]

Beholders

[empty thicket]

Beholders

[remote wadi]

It's quite helpful as a free version of reliable talent

[empty thicket]

yeah yeah, i expected something else but i guess that is a way to see it. Any help to 2014 ranger is good because like we said here before, Natural and Foe are.....not so nice

[rain geode]

Beholders it is

[remote wadi]

For example, cooking enemies you hunted? Likely a base 14 for Ranger instead of a possible nat 1 burning it all to a crisp
Needing to pick a lock and don't want to keep failing? I have a base 17 for the roll

It especially helps with a solid chunk of artisan's tools, as you don't really need to rush when making potions (which, again, base roll will be high if you are proficient too)

[empty thicket]

1 or 2 times per short rest(?)

or proficency bonus number?

[remote wadi]

No limit. The only requirement is that you need to reasonably be able to do said task without rushing it

[empty thicket]

mmmm..... its called in some way? "Nature patience"?

[remote wadi]

So technically speaking, I could leverage that into, say, having my surprise round be a nearly guaranteed hit for the first target because I am not rushing to get my sights on them

[empty thicket]

welp, like rogue, ranger get lots of features for sneaking or hidding so, surprise rounds help a lot

[remote wadi]

It's just labeled "no roll scenarios", but I could borrow that in my own possible campaigns if I ever were to be a DM

Could be remembered simply as "Patience"

[empty thicket]

Yeah, i placed the Nature for thematic

[hidden spindle]

Passive scores

[remote wadi]

Which is why I said it helps ranger a lot. They're one of the few classes that have a lot of good ways to accomplish things in their downtime

[remote wadi]

Thing is, not everything used would be passive. What's more, you can only apply that outcome in specific scenarios

Like I said, you have to be doing said task slowly. Not rushing it

[empty thicket]

Still i feel it too... "good", would at least place a limit like X times per long rest. But that is me honestly

Still if i place a limit, would give the chance of reroll if failed because the no rush thing.

[remote wadi]

Nah. I think needing to take your time is enough. Besides, if you're knowledgeable enough about my campaign, you will know how rare Ranger Ws are

[remote wadi]

That's going to be probably present anyways. DM allows for rerolls often in things like lockpicking

But I think this is also intended for social situations because a character with good Charisma could realistically stop and think on how to word things properly

Which is another good example of a way to apply the rule. No need to rush your way through the talk

Now, if you were trying to intimidate, I doubt that waiting for a while before actually doing it would help much

[empty thicket]

that is nice

in any way, this weekend will see if i end up fighting the demon that is who cursed my paladin

If not, im taking down a tree in minecraft style

[wanton sorrel]

sighs there all going to die if they don't have death ward or death block...

[empty thicket]

at some point death ward is a forced to go honestly

its more reliable than counterspell and less expensive than revivify

8 hours duration, i thought it was less time, damn its good

and no components, damn...

[wanton sorrel]

:3

[empty thicket]

Yeah, same in 2014 or 24. Literally a lvl 4 spell without upcasting can counter a lvl 9 power word kill

[wanton sorrel]

which is kind of odd.

wait does any of the 5e use augments?

[empty thicket]

augments? what you mean?

[wanton sorrel]

yeah

like weapon modifyer slots

[empty thicket]

any example? because reading this make me think in this magic item that give you 2 magic daggers for throwing

[wanton sorrel]

yeah something like that.. example... Placing a gem into the weapon to do more str. or having boots and put a gem into it to create feather fall when wearing it.

[empty thicket]

welp, there are some i guess, that item i just told you, adamantine weapons, some can have spells or effects on them that give them stuff, +1 // 2 // 3 weapons

[wanton sorrel]

maybe i play way to many high end rng's

[hidden spindle]

Maybe not like a direct augment. But crafting could be in line with that. You take a item. And spend some time and gold and boom. Magic item.

Its an oversimplification

[dim wasp]

how many boons can a player nab

[wanton sorrel]

it depends if they don't run out of banana's

[hidden spindle]

Probably one of each, given time & XP

[dim wasp]

banana?

[dim wasp]

when do boons unlock

[silk hare]

isnt prereq lvl 19?

so wouldnt the max be 2 unless the dm hands out other ways to obtain them?

[dim wasp]

this is what i am thinking so im just wondering

[dim wasp]

ye just wondering if good deeds boons or side quest boons

[hollow stone]

i thought it was 18 but ik a lot of classes have an Epic Boon unlocked on auto, yea

it's in their table

[wanton sorrel]

boons... oh it's a 5e that i know nothing about... shrugs

[hollow stone]

it's like a feat but stronger

[wanton sorrel]

oh...

[silk hare]

essentially roided up feats that are so op you only get them in the very endgame

[wanton sorrel]

that's if the character lives long enough to get there right?

[silk hare]

such as: taking ANY lvl 1 spell (sorc, wiz or war) and being able to cast it as a cantrip now

[silk hare]

or for oneshots but yeh

[hollow stone]

that is how every level-based feature works, yea

[wanton sorrel]

do 5e have reincarnation?

[hollow stone]

you have to get there before you are there

[silk hare]

reincarnation or also revival?

bc true resurrection is a thing, so is normal resurrection, revivify, etc etc

there are plenty of ways not even counting "narrative" revivals

[wanton sorrel]

reincarnation that sends your high level 20 back to level 1 but has the ractal trait from previous life.

[silk hare]

I mean narratively you can make anything work, but RAW iirc no

maybe clone

[hollow stone]

wait i thought the casting stat options were wizard (INT), druid (WIS), and cleric (CHA)?

[reef copper]

3 kinds of reincarnation i guess. Maybe more
1 a spell that brings you back
2 a race feature that has a lore of having memories of previous lives.
3 you can be reborn, usually into a plane sharing your alignment

[silk hare]

I was going off off 2014, where its different i think

[silk hare]

Clone:

This spell grows an inert duplicate of a living creature as a safeguard against death. This clone forms inside the vessel used in the spell's casting and grows to full size and maturity after 120 days; you can also choose to have the clone be a younger version of the same creature. It remains inert and endures indefinitely, as long as its vessel remains undisturbed.

At any time after the clone matures, if the original creature dies, its soul transfers to the clone, provided that the soul is free and willing to return. The clone is physically identical to the original and has the same personality, memories, and abilities, but none of the original's equipment. The original creature's physical remains, if they still exist, become inert and can't thereafter be restored to life, since the creature's soul is elsewhere.

so assuming you have a boon thats narratively tied to your soul, then yes

[limber trail]

so i see i completely misread this conversation

[wanton sorrel]

maybe it was 3

[hollow stone]

wait what??? cause i took the Magic Initiate feat with CHA as the casting stat in 2024 and i had cleric spells?

[limber trail]

oh yeah you can take magic initiate and choose any casting stat

but clerics themselves use wisdom for their spellcasting

[empty thicket]

Yeah, but 2 cantrips and only 1 lvl1 spell

[hollow stone]

yea, that's weird, isn't it? they use WIS but if you take the MI CHA casting stat you use the Cleric spell list

[silk hare]

you gain the following benefits.

Two Cantrips. You learn two cantrips of your choice from the Cleric, Druid, or Wizard spell list. Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma is your spellcasting ability for this feat's spells (choose when you select this feat).

Level 1 Spell. Choose a level 1 spell from the same list you selected for this feat's cantrips. You always have that spell prepared. You can cast it once without a spell slot, and you regain the ability to cast it in that way when you finish a Long Rest. You can also cast the spell using any spell slots you have.

Spell Change. Whenever you gain a new level, you can replace one of the spells you chose for this feat with a different spell of the same level from the chosen spell list.

Repeatable. You can take this feat more than once, but you must choose a different spell list each time.

[dim wasp]

@wanton sorrelits like a blessing from a god

[wanton sorrel]

yes pretty much

[dim wasp]

hold it!

[empty thicket]

Its a shame that you cant like, sacrifice one of your spell slots for a higher lvl spell from that class, but i guess is fair because some limits must not be crossed

[limber trail]

?
If you take magic initiate: cleric, you can choose any casting stat. You might have taken a background which only gives magic initiate cleric, but either way, you'll have the same spell list regardless of the stat you choose.

[hollow stone]

yea isn't that weird? you'd think for CHA it'd be like, Warlock or Bard or Sorc spells and cantrips

[dim wasp]

do cantrips have infinite use because they dont take up spell slots to cast @silk hare

[silk hare]

yes

[empty thicket]

oh wait, with that feat and the spell, lets say i use guiding bolt, could i upcast it?

Wizard, take that feat and get that spell.

[limber trail]

the spell list you choose from isn't tied to the casting stat you choose.

[dim wasp]

spams chromatic orb at my surroundings yippeee forest fire time

[silk hare]

should be able to yes

[hollow stone]

oh does Acolyte force the Cleric spell list?

[limber trail]

yes

[reef copper]

Upcasting is fine

[hollow stone]

ohhh okei i understand now

[limber trail]

if you want the wizard spell list you need sage, and if you want the druid spell list you need guide (iirc)

[woeful canyon]

Is anyone from Serbia

[dim wasp]

@silk hare so whats the downside of cantrips then?

[silk hare]

less powerful then spells, thats about it

[limber trail]

They're relatively weak.

but they exist to provide some consistent spellcasting

[silk hare]

think of it this way, if cantrips used spell slots, a spell caster could do literally nothing after a day

[dim wasp]

what attacking cantrips are there?

[silk hare]

too many to name here

[limber trail]

tons

[dim wasp]

sorcerer level 1

[knotty pasture]

Fire Bolt, Ray of Frost, Frostbite

[silk hare]

some decent ones include:

toll the dead (1D8/1D12)
Ray of frost

[dim wasp]

frostbite sounds fun

[silk hare]

ahh beat me to it xD

[dim wasp]

nom

[dim wasp]

whats frostbite do

[silk hare]

You cause numbing frost to form on one creature that you can see within range. The target must make a Constitution saving throw. On a failed save, the target takes 1d6 cold damage, and it has disadvantage on the next weapon attack roll it makes before the end of its next turn.

The spell's damage increases by 1d6 when you reach 5th level (2d6), 11th level (3d6), and 17th level (4d6).

[hollow stone]

oh speaking of cantrips do they upgrade when you get them through Magic Initiate? i'd assume so but i also wanna know

[limber trail]

damaging cantrips on the sorcerer spell list:
acid splash, chill touch, fire bolt, mind sliver, poison spray, ray of frost, shocking grasp, sorcerous burst, thunderclap, true strike

[limber trail]

yeah they do

[silk hare]

yes, damage increase is tied to lvl increase

[dim wasp]

how much does thunderclap do

[silk hare]

true strike is verison dependent but otherwise yes

[silk hare]

1D6 Con save

[limber trail]

1d6 in a 5ft emenation from you on a con save

it is an aoe which can be nice but ultimately you usually have better choices

[dim wasp]

is there not something like a wizards arm as well?

[silk hare]

?

[limber trail]

since it requires you to be in hot water and does nothing to get you out of that hot water

[dim wasp]

i forget the cantrip name

[limber trail]

there's mage hand but it doesn't have much combat utility

[silk hare]

ohhh mage hand

[dim wasp]

smack em

[limber trail]

Unfortunately you can't

[silk hare]

cant, it has set actions you can perform with it

[dim wasp]

throw stuff at em

[dim wasp]

is it only grabbing and climbing

[silk hare]

A spectral, floating hand appears at a point you choose within range. The hand lasts for the duration or until you dismiss it as an action. The hand vanishes if it is ever more than 30 feet away from you or if you cast this spell again.

You can use your action to control the hand. You can use the hand to manipulate an object, open an unlocked door or container, stow or retrieve an item from an open container, or pour the contents out of a vial. You can move the hand up to 30 feet each time you use it.

The hand can't attack, activate magic items, or carry more than 10 pounds.

[hollow stone]

Thaumaturgy is also a very fun utility cantrip

[humble cairn]

Check out the spell section of the free rules!! https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/spell-descriptions

[dim wasp]

nah it cant carry more than 5 kg

[limber trail]

it is, but not on the sorcerer spell list

[dim wasp]

it seems useful for utility

[silk hare]

it can be, entirely dependent on your campaign and your dm tho

[empty thicket]

dropping bottles full of pepper and hot sauce in the head of some wizard before fighting him so he cant concentrate in spells with this

[hollow stone]

oh mb

[humble cairn]

It is, and you can use it to trigger traps from a distance.

[silk hare]

if its a dungeon crawl, theres probably very little you can do with it

[limber trail]

it's a spell that shines with a creative player behind it

[silk hare]

everything like that is very dm dependant, but in theory sure

[dim wasp]

pour potion of acid ontop of enemies

[severe rampart]

both me and a fellow bard friend of mine use it for stealing, personally

[empty thicket]

i know, i doubt he let it happen

[dim wasp]

500 ml and 1 kg vial

[humble cairn]

I dunno, i find it useful for remote triggering of traps once someone has found them.

[dim wasp]

it is kinda a replacement for a rogue i did see that at the beginning

[empty thicket]

Using mage hand to pat the cats at the distance

[silk hare]

true, but then again you could have someone shoot their bow at stuff or some dms dont even run proper traps you can defuse that way/ mostly combat encounters in dungeon crawls so it depends on the campaign as with most things that arent meta

[limber trail]

(it's also an action to use and at basically every level you can do more with that action than activate mage hand in combat)

[crimson gulch]

Mage hand saves lives in dungeons

[humble cairn]

Many potions define their use as an attack. The Mage hand cannot attack and thus would not be able to do those ones that are defined as attacks.

[limber trail]

fantastic spell for avoiding traps and other nastiness

[dim wasp]

this is the proper way to use mage hand

[humble cairn]

I think triggering a trap with a bow attack is even murkier than using Mage Hand. Rules wise.

[dim wasp]

the only correct way to use mage hand is to pet cattos/j

[limber trail]

for any spellcaster, you usually have enough bread and butter combat spells, usually to where it's worth taking more utility spells like mage hand

[silk hare]

absolutely, but I agree, it can be VERY useful if the dm lets you use it properly

[limber trail]

I honestly think it's rarely worth taking more than like 2 offensive cantrips

[silk hare]

true, but most classes have some cantrips they should always take so u end up with 2-3 offensive cantrips

[limber trail]

mage hand will save your life more than a third ranged attack

[silk hare]

e.g. stuff like guidance etc

[severe rampart]

Vicious Mockery and Sacred Flame against the world

[silk hare]

toll the dead my beloved

[limber trail]

my beautiful level 4 druid with 9 cantrips, three of which deal damage (and if I could I'd have made it less)

[severe rampart]

Darn, I'm level 8 Lore Bard with Guidance, Mage Hand, Minor Illusion. Vicious Mockery, and Sacred Flame

[empty thicket]

Its always good to have some utility than all offensive spells

[hollow stone]

Arcane Trickster rogues actually get an invisible one

[stoic haven]

Wut?!

[empty thicket]

unless you are in a literally war zone or so aggressive area that offensive is your best tool

[stoic haven]

What druid cantrips?

[severe rampart]

What about Avernus

[empty thicket]

Comprehend languages, light, mage hand, mend, etc. etc.

[silk hare]

it also becomes invisible if u know the cantrip and take the telekinetic feat

[empty thicket]

what is Avernus?

[severe rampart]

It's like hell

[silk hare]

hell essentially

[severe rampart]

Guess I just Echoed your words, didn't I? ba dum tiss

[silk hare]

9 lvls (circles), demons running around, fighting and more fighting

[empty thicket]

Yeeeeaaaa.....ermm....
Forget utility, your objective is survive at that point.

[severe rampart]

we're on a quest to kill Baphomet (Demon Lord)

[empty thicket]

Unless you are in idk, a party or festival of demons or smt like that

[silk hare]

badumm tssssssssssssssssssssssss goes the yuan-ti

[limber trail]

So I had three cantrips from being a level 4 druid (Mending, Shape Water, Starry Wisp). An additional 1 (Druidcraft) from my primal order. An additional 1 (Shocking Grasp) as a circle of the land druid. I took the Sage background for magic initiate: wizard, taking the Light and Toll the Dead spells. I was a human and took magic initiate: cleric for Spare the Dying and Guidance.

[humble cairn]

I just played a Lore Bard in a one shot whose only damaging option at all was Vicious Mockery. It was kind of great, still.

[severe rampart]

The party is pretty much 50% Dragons (Two Dragonborns and a Kobold)

[severe rampart]

Yeah my lore bard has a LOTTTT of supportive spells

[empty thicket]

or some sort of civilized area and you are going to negotiate with some demon lord or smt like that, go all offensive and defensive, dont waste any spell and most importantly
Survive

[empty thicket]

i mean party like dance and all that, not group

[humble cairn]

I stacked a lot into my Help Action. Hobgoblin and Harper Agent really synergize well.

[silk hare]

fun fact: demon lords can be permanently killed in their own domain :)))

[severe rampart]

Not negotiating, we are gonna kill a Demon Lord

[severe rampart]

Endless Maze here we go

[naive cedar]

As Minsc discovered the hard way

[severe rampart]

We aren't actually in avernus yet we're in the underdark and just waiting for the next session

[limber trail]

Of these, I truly did not need toll the dead and kinda wish I took literally anything else, and I probably could've subbed starry wisp out once i got my subclass

[empty thicket]

okey okey, i was mostly meaning an scenario. But in this one i dont expect some kind of talk.
In the first second of seeing him Reality break him

Dont leave any space to chatting, literally rush leaving his hear without pulse.

[naive cedar]

Devils can also be killed in their own domain

(I’m dumb and forget the difference between them sometimes)

[silk hare]

damn thats a nice spell, did not know that existed lol

[empty thicket]

Reality break?

[silk hare]

yeh, just looked it up thats crazy (and funny)

[severe rampart]

Pfft Baphomet is not all that (I am scared of what will happen to my changeling)

[empty thicket]

heard it wasnt that good, i find it good if you need to at least affect or make less dangerous one enemy

[silk hare]

oh yeh its deffo not meta, but funny nontheless

[silk hare]

the true polymorph is waiting lol

[empty thicket]

just seeing him being affected by any of the options will be funny
And remember, 30 feets can be to up too, so its a 30 feets fall

[severe rampart]

Counterspell

[limber trail]

It's an all or nothing single target spell, which at 8th level is kinda ehhh, but with a solid DC it can be solid if it goes off

[silk hare]

counterspell on that counterspell tho from one of his minions

[severe rampart]

say it with me now... counterspell

[silk hare]

you only get 1 lvl spell / turn

[naive cedar]

double counterspell

[silk hare]

:))))

[severe rampart]

that wasn't me... that was my simulacrum

[silk hare]

ahhh I see xD too bad then

[limber trail]

you also do just need to roll for counterspell

[severe rampart]

unless it's the same level or higher

[limber trail]

also, if it's 2024, you can just

legendary resistance

or rather baphomet can legendary resistance the counterspell

[silk hare]

oh right, high enough creature that it would have that lol

[severe rampart]

well not much I can do against legendary resistance

[limber trail]

it exists for a reason

spells exactly like that one

he also has a +14 to the wisdom save and rolls it with advantage

[severe rampart]

Would using wish to take away his legendary resistance work?

[reef copper]

Guess he would legendary resist it

[limber trail]

That would be a non traditional use of wish, so it's fully and entirely up to the DM

[empty thicket]

"There you are big boy, time to see the stars.
Bend the sight and watch the night, get in your knees and be weak. Feel the reality BREAK!!"

And then put that spell on him and see him get his mind nuked

[severe rampart]

he has more minions than I do simulacrums, he'd wish for it back

[empty thicket]

but knowing DnD you do all that chatting and then he save it without problem

[silk hare]

idk, thats like a full combat turn you are giving him right there

Action, Ba reaction and all

[empty thicket]

no no
That was just talking and then cast the spell

I have the idea that spells that use vocals have some sort of keywords and i think higher lvl spells get more of them, same if you upcast one

[severe rampart]

Don't monologue before casting a spell guys

[limber trail]

yeah spells do have vocal components

that's how most spells work

[empty thicket]

Why nooooooot?!!

its epic!!

[severe rampart]

The off chance you roll a nat 1

[reef copper]

Reminds me of wheatley in portal 2 lol

[limber trail]

Typically if someone stops and monologues before an action it’s a really big sign to stop that specific action

[empty thicket]

oh that, yeah,
Do the monologue after the spell roll then, for roleplay purposes

[timid current]

most monolog worthy spells don't have attack rolls

[empty thicket]

and if the enemy get the save you give them space to farm some aura and give a comeback

or a funny moment too

[tawdry sentinel]

Every time I hype up an enemies wisdom save with "they're a druid so they're good at this" they'll tank it.

[empty thicket]

In this case reality break dont have one, only a Wisdom save (it was me, i forgot the ping thing)

[limber trail]

Announcing an enemy’s modifier / general proficiency with a save is the ultimate way to tempt fate either with the worst or greatest roll you’ve ever seen and there’s no in between

[empty thicket]

a 3d chess play
The BBEG saying "who wants to die?" getting his PW kill ready
The barbarian pointing out the wizard "Him him" but its a bait so the BBEG attack him instead for pointing out his ally and being so dumb of thinking he was giving them a real choice

(the barbarian have like 300hp, it can tank anything)

[primal forum]

I'd like to be a dead person who got casted by a very powerful speak with dead spell. Joins a party hoping to find the ones who forgot to ask the last question.

[red imp]

I found the D&D character creation cheat code.

1. If str is less than 15 and you're small, you have little guy energy.
2. If str is greater than 15 and you're medium, you are a big softie.
3. If str is greater than 15 and you're small, you have a Napoleon complex.
4. If str is less than 15 and you're medium, you're a nerd.

[woven flint]

My Centaur Barbarian with over 15 strength, being a medium sized creature, being Part of the Zhentarim and a Follower of Bane is TOTALLY a softie

And he totally WOULDN'T butcher you for calling him one

[empty thicket]

My half orc with like 16str is nice, try to solve things talking sometimes and if the talk dont work.
Welp, nothing that 6 to 8 hits in a round cant fix

Oh and if any creature kinda threatening looking get at least 10 feets of his allies he will drop it down.

[woven flint]

My Dragonborn Cavalier Fighter
However, is a softie, or, at minimum, a merciful man who doesn't believe every situation must start or end with violence, he's a wannabe knight and very chivalrous

[empty thicket]

Welp, if the enemies drop the weapons and surrender i wont have any reason to make them suffer some maths

mostly, divide them at half

[woven flint]

That DM gives full experience if we're able to solve something another way anyway, so there's no real MUST kill anyway

My Dragonborn fella is also trying to set a good example for his Kobold boyfriend (Another PC) in the party because he gets a little TOO excited for violence

[empty thicket]

same, we can try talk out sometimes but fight is always an option. Luckily we could talk out some situations and save the hassle.
Others talking... werent so good idea...
There is a reason that i have the 10ft rule in my character now...

[hollow stone]

a party i'm in managed to avoid a combat entirely by casting Sleep on The Big Boy and then just running away lol

[silk hare]

???? thats like really random?

If Wis is over 15 you like apples and checks random thing in room wear black hoodies

If Wis is under 15 you uhhh rolls a d20 <insert stereotype> + <insert character trait that may or may not be associated with people of comparable IRL "stat">

but yeh, you CAN make your characters that way, its just not a general formula as you said

[woven flint]

"If you have 10 Intelligence, your name is paul"

[primal forum]

can I be fabio if I have more than 15 charisma

[marble maple]

A few hours until my session and I have a feeling this will be the day the party gets wiped out

[red imp]

It's not something you all do. It's something you SHOULD do.

Hence the term "cheat code"

[north hawk]

Maybe they'll surprise you.

[umbral girder]

If you have an ability score you are Steve and yearn for the mines. /jk

[marble maple]

We'll see. We're a group of lvl 9s about to face off against a Mummy Lord

It has a warlock weapon I need and I'll get it or die trying, probably the latter

[north hawk]

Looks like it might be a hard fight.

How many people are in the party?

[marble maple]

Its a party of 6

With an ally npc

[reef copper]

What do you guys think about epic boons?

[vagrant quartz]

i'd rather have epic bones

[umbral girder]

The 2014 boons were awful.
The 2024 ones are drastically better.

[tawdry sentinel]

Level 20 is a myth for games I've been involved with

[reef copper]

2014 where bad, 2024 hates casters but are generaly better and more epic

[umbral girder]

2014 “you can cast Misty step once a short rest”
2024 “you can teleport up to 30ft after the Attack or Magic action”

[umbral girder]

Mean while I’m reaching the double digits in level 20 games I’ve been a part of.

[reef copper]

casters had few boons and they where removed

[umbral girder]

The only boon I could think of was Boon of High Magic and Immortality.

Also they were not removed, they were not reprinted.

[tawdry sentinel]

Highest I've made it to was 14 and then they tpkd and wanted to restart at 1 doing the same campaign 🙃

[reef copper]

i did not see high magic in the list anymore

[umbral girder]

Reread my message. They were not removed, just not reprinted.