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buoyant oar
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Table Top War Games have been around for over 150 years.

oak stone
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milking the campaign

severe rampart
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and imagination has been around since the dawn of humanity

buoyant oar
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Robert Wardaugh has been playing the same game in his Canadian home for 40+ years.

empty thicket
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Like, nerd couple get a son, introduce the son into DND, play with him
The son then play it in the school with friends
Highschool too
etc. etc.
get couple
Marry
Get a son
Repeat process

oak stone
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me invent wheel

oak stone
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which I'm in

normal junco
severe rampart
oak stone
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if I ever manage to get a kid I'd probably introduce him to dnd

empty thicket
oak stone
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my dm allowed me to make my character have a stand from jjba

oak stone
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irl friends

noble pendant
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Hello good afternoon everyone I'm new to the platform do y'all know how I can send a message in the looking for players channel?

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I'm kinda too dumb

buoyant oar
normal junco
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the #find-a-game channel should have info on how to use the looking for players channel

normal junco
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is there a hat tipping emoji?

noble pendant
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Oh alright tank you

oak stone
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tanks

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that's so dank

buoyant oar
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I have been running the game longer than my average player has been alive. And they can all drink in the US.

noble pendant
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Lmfao

empty thicket
oak stone
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I wanna teach my friends dnd but I'm not a good dm

normal junco
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gather your friends and tell them its soccer with some slight rules changes. then proceed to teach them D&D. try to see how long you get before someone tells you this isn't anything like soccer.

oak stone
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"boss give you quest do quest"

woven flint
buoyant oar
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Nobody was born a good DM.

oak stone
normal junco
toxic viper
oak stone
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Great idea

oak stone
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and I'd wheel of fate it

jaunty wyvern
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Waterdeeps 77th annual soccer tournament

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with magic allowed

outer wraith
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i love orcs

gusty stone
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Where do sorcerers keep track of their sorcery points on their sheet?

normal junco
keen kestrel
buoyant oar
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Soccer? Poor Sport. All my calimshan homies get charged up about a game of Deathball though

keen kestrel
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I usually just use lines to represent how many I have, since it’s easy to add to that (unless you use a pencil, then erase it and change the amount on level up

woven flint
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I'm not even from Calimshan, but I LOVE Deathball!!!

oak stone
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everytime I do a homebrew dnd I always use dm vault

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my favorite website for dnd

exotic pecan
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I'm so excited to start my first campaign soon, we have our session 0 this weekend dndExciteBite

gusty stone
minor lake
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Grateful for my brother or as i call him "D&D playtesting unit 001"

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Running social encounters with npcs beforehand as a demo is actually goated

outer wraith
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guess who i love

minor lake
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Who

outer wraith
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orcs

minor lake
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BOOOOO
actually I did just make an orc blood bowl team and they hit hard

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Orcs are cool
I love vampires

outer wraith
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orcs and wizards

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huzzah

grand onyx
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Hellooooooo

minor lake
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Wizards also cool

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Hi!!

grand onyx
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How are you?

minor lake
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Very well thank you! Today is a d&d prep day and there is no better day lol
How are you?

grand onyx
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Oh awesome XD
I’m good thanks

vagrant quartz
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how much stuff should i throw at 4 lvl 4 ppl

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TwT

grand onyx
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(Jk Jk XD)

vagrant quartz
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what could possibly go wrong

grand onyx
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Fr

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Easy peasy

fair summit
hidden spindle
minor lake
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Challenge rating is usually a pretty good estimate, although sometimes it can be a range
I usually will put one for each party member or two if they are smaller creatures like wolves
You could slightly outnumber them if you want them to feel stressed

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They also don't have to be trying to kill the PCs. Sometimes if I feel my players need a win I'll have the enemies try and take something from them instead of trying to kill

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Lvl 4 is still pretty squishy but they have their subclasses which is nice

west sail
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I now own a giant d20

minor lake
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Epic
Make your important rolls on it

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How big is it??

frank bramble
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Does anyone use chatgpt for character creation? Or, anything creative in regards to dnd? Ive been using it for the last few months and ive come up with some pretty cool concepts.

stark tundra
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Ai doesn't belong in DND in my opinion

minor lake
hidden spindle
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Not ChatGPT but I've used randomizers in Google Sheets

minor lake
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I'll take the ideas I like and write them in myself

grand onyx
minor lake
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It's nice for brainstorming sometimes imo

grand onyx
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I mean fair

frank bramble
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Its like a programmer writing up a program for a video game. If you're a purist I respect it but at the end of the day its just a tool.

timid current
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No it's the opposite of brainstorming

stark tundra
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I mean I just feel like AI is something that doesn't belong in everything like I hate Gemini but can't disable it without disabling all of google

timid current
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It is literally just copy pasting other peoples' ideas. It's lazy and says you don't care about what you're working on

grand onyx
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I mean he made a valid point

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I wouldn’t use it but using it for ideas can be helpful 😭

timid current
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If someone brings chatgpt to my table that says they don't care enough and they can find another table

grand onyx
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As long as you’re not just copy pasting

timid current
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It is just copy and pasting

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That's like saying stealing a painting is okay if you rub a little dirt on it

minor lake
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grand onyx
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I’m not gonna argue about ts 😔
I hate ai as much as the next person but Cowzrock has a point

minor lake
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Oh sry

timid current
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It's not a sounding board It's an automated theft machine

stark tundra
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Honesty that statement right there is what's wrong with people they think ai is gonna help us it will maybe but it's also so company's can cut out the art team or the game devs and charge more for less work

timid current
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And it says you don't care whatsoever about what you're doing or about actual creatives

stark tundra
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Ai is helping to kill the voice actor community

frank bramble
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Bruh, anything can be used to help a creative to create. Its just how much work you put into it.

delicate owl
timid current
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"It's okay to burn the world so I can steal someone else's idea/effort and make the world a more boring, dumb place"

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So yeah if you bring ai to my D&D table, you can keep walking and find another one. I prefer playing games with people

grand onyx
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Gang what if we talk about something else fr

frank bramble
grand onyx
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That would be pretty awesome 😭

timid current
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So to ensure we are discussing d&d, it is an intrinsically creative and collaborative hobby and community.

grand onyx
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Okay bro i agree with you but can we just like move on please 🙏🙏🙏

timid current
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I'm not stopping you, I simply wasn't done with what I was saying

grand onyx
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Alright. Anyways how are yall?

timid current
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I'm great, thank you for asking. I might have eaten too many dried mango slices tho

grand onyx
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Oh no 😭😭😭

delicate owl
grand onyx
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Those sound fire tho 😔

silk hare
grand onyx
grand onyx
silk hare
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Dad joke not appreciated dndSerious

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Oh well

grand onyx
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Oh 💀
Mb lmao

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I can never tell over text 💔

strong hearth
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hi everyone, i am new to d&d, but i`m interested to play. what do I need to know about the game to start playing? I will be grateful for any help

outer wraith
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orcs

jaunty wyvern
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the gods most devoted orc lover

chilly narwhal
# timid current So to ensure we are discussing d&d, it is an intrinsically creative and collabor...

I don’t like AI in dnd, I think reading some random guy’s pdf from 2003 and a forum thread where people passionately discuss the mathematically best hex system is essential.

That’s on a dm level, and I also dislike brainrot anywhere near me, so ai is a no-brainer.

The tiktok way people talk makes me recoil, having someone watch TikTok during dnd, having chatgpt backstories make me sort of sad. It feels like creativity is dying, like the people around me have nothing to say and any opinions they do have are vapid.

I think I just miss dnd and forums being for geeks, for losers who like to roleplay cringe elves and use it to escape bullying. I partially blame baldur’s gate.

delicate owl
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Yeesh what a take lol

bronze wave
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Another AI convo

chilly narwhal
bronze wave
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Atleast the end bit lol

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Gatekeeping your hobby is such an odd thing to me

jaunty wyvern
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I can't really say much on the concept of using AI for character creation as I've used a random character generator for years to give me character ideas and direction

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much before GenAi

uncut zenith
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Yeah, I agree with disliking AI, but the whole “creativity is dying” thing as a whole? As if people 40 years ago weren’t creating D&D characters that were basically established fantasy characters with a different name?

bronze wave
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Eh idc if someone uses AI, I don’t but I’ve seen it used fine before.

jaunty wyvern
bronze wave
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I’ve seen interesting chars made with help from ai and boring normal made chars

chilly narwhal
uncut zenith
uncut zenith
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Everything’s derivative of something. Nothing’s 100% original.

delicate owl
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That do be how ideas are formed. Whatever someone creates is the sum of their experiences in the world.

chilly narwhal
uncut zenith
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Like Curse of Strahd. One of the most popular adventures in 5E and the main plot is basically Dracula with the serial number filed off.

crimson gulch
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originality is a trap

jaunty wyvern
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Another strahd L

crimson gulch
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Tropes done well hit way better than originality that sucks

umbral girder
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new quest hook “I was trying to hunt the Amnesia Bear but I don’t remember why.”

chilly narwhal
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I don’t think things have to be original, I stated that reading other’s peoples things are important. I think emulating from passion is different than having an ai who doesn’t even understand what its copying giving you an idea you also don’t care about

frank bramble
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I personally love feeling the feeling of the soul that someone put in something or a character. Originality or not.

chilly narwhal
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I’m not saying originality is better than emulation, I’m saying I dislike having people play dnd who don’t really care about playing and people who think a lot of it is cringe or that being cringe and weirdly interested is bad

chilly narwhal
frank bramble
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That's that universal translation or meaning that tracks across all types of people, culturally, linguistically. Even modality.

naive cedar
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even if you're ripping someone off lazily, ripping off with an idea you created yourself > AI generating

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bc the way that the human creative brain filters an idea is still fundamentally different from what a robot spits out

naive cedar
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for example, there are popular works of fiction that i think are boring, lazy, and derivative, but they still have unique elements that make them a legitimate work of creative fiction

chilly narwhal
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I dislike fourth wing, but I think it’s far better than any ai can ever conceive of

naive cedar
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also, while i agree that using tropes isnt inherently bad, i do think that "great" works of fiction need to bring something new to the table, if that makes sense. that can be as simple as a unique twist on an old trope

lost oak
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What are you guys talking about right now?

past latch
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i found a.i. somewhat helpful for looking up sources on dumb questions i have (like if humans ever historically fist fought using rings) but that's about how far i would go

naive cedar
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i logged in and people are talking about AI

frank bramble
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Im new here and asked questions. Thats what brought it up.

naive cedar
chilly narwhal
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There’s a person who despite how cringe and odd it is, decided they wanted to write it and I’m proud and happy for them. I like my cringe dnd characters, and ripoff Legolas is someone’s passion baby so I love it too. I miss being so unabashedly cringe in every way

past latch
chilly narwhal
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I like your vibes alleycat

past latch
naive cedar
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the other day i typed a question into google AI and then typed it again 20 minutes later and it gave me the polar opposite answer...lol

past latch
livid owl
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In celebration of human made creativity, what's everyone's favorite DND characters they made?

naive cedar
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oh also: character execution matters just as much as originality of ideas imo

chilly narwhal
livid owl
chilly narwhal
frank bramble
past latch
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i was researching plate armor fistfighting because i got the idea of parrying swords using your bare fists

naive cedar
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she also had a frost wolf companion who wasnt evil for some reason

livid owl
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Hell yeah!!!

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My first DND character was a Strigoi (humanoid stirge) that didn't have a name so the party named them Coy

past latch
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mine was ranger too, but an aarakocra whose favored enemy was dragons

woven flint
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My first character was a Shifter Monk fella
He was a deer lad

frank bramble
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Mine was a spellblade wannabe trying to run on dnd 3e logic. Old school party.

chilly narwhal
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My arwen (autocorrect) knockoff, and my disney princess like drow druid healer

past latch
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ive only now realized i haven't played a character with a weapon for years now

chilly narwhal
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I also had an eowyn knockoff, but my arwen knockoff became increasingly deranged and it was fun

jaunty wyvern
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My first "original" character was a gambling obsessed rogue based on Setzer from FF6

frank bramble
chilly narwhal
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I can use a sword and longbow poorly irl

past latch
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i train boxing poorly irl so i just imagine that when in combat lol

frank bramble
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I took some martial arts as a kid so, thats what I naturally settle for. So I feel you.

frank bramble
past latch
naive cedar
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ive never even touched a weapon irl so i just research and wing it

past latch
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we had to learn arnis in school (philippines) so i only know basic strikes and stuff

jaunty wyvern
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I took fencing for like 5 years of my life so I can't really imagine myself using anything other than small finesse weapons

naive cedar
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if i tried to use anything larger than a butter knife id probably hurt myself

past latch
frank bramble
naive cedar
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i used to be terrified of knives so i would make my mom cut my sandwiches for me until i was 12

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hmm. new dnd character idea

past latch
naive cedar
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i was thinking more like a wizard who went to wizard school not because they like magic that much but bc their family is all fighters and they're terrified of knives

past latch
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ig bladesinger off the table for them then

naive cedar
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no gandalf with sword aura farming for them

past latch
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boohoo no foe-hammer for them

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still a banger name for a sword

frank bramble
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Can we define fighting style here? Or is that another channel?

grand onyx
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Aw man :(

jaunty wyvern
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since you can enter bladesong with anything now it wouldn't be out of the question to have like brass knuckles as a spellcasting focus

past latch
frank bramble
jaunty wyvern
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THATS MY DANCER BARD

naive cedar
past latch
jaunty wyvern
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aw they dont embed

past latch
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atleast the dragon didn't eat this one

naive cedar
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thats just what gandalf does at the wizard reunion parties

jaunty wyvern
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tenser strikes me as a man who loves disco tec

woven flint
jaunty wyvern
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what

woven flint
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We all know the best wizard in the forgotten realms is Bigby

naive cedar
woven flint
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Bigby?
More like
Smallby!
Because he's a GNOME NOW!!!

outer wraith
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guess what

jaunty wyvern
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you like elves?

naive cedar
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edwin? more like edWIN (he could take on elminster by himself)

woven flint
outer wraith
woven flint
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I was right, it seems

naive cedar
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i love all fey, including elves

woven flint
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Elves aren't Fey.
They're related to Fey, but they're far along the line enough to where they're not considered Fey anymore

naive cedar
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shhhh they're close enough 🥰

past latch
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huh, just realized a bladesinger wizard could conjure up an entire crew of backup dancers if they wanted to

woven flint
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Did you know
Bladesong doesn't require you to sing or dance at all? 🧐

past latch
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yeah but i want my wizard boy band

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recreating the choreo of bye bye bye when they raise the dead

woven flint
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My Harengon Wizards a practitioner of bladesong, he eventually plans on passing down that knowledge to his dragon daughter :p

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When she learns how to shapechange

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Might be a few hundreds of years, guess I better start getting clones ready

past latch
woven flint
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Remind me never to play with you /joking

past latch
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you will hear the reminder, very loudly

glass granite
outer wraith
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don't EVER interact with me if you are an elf

jaunty wyvern
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Whats your guys' favorite niche spell combination. Stuff that isn't neccessarily powerful but just fun to pull off?\

woven flint
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I'm playing him tonight actually
He may or may not die to Strahd tonight, I dunno

jaunty wyvern
woven flint
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For reference, I'm not playing Curse of Strahd, I'm playing Eve of Ruin and we're headed for Barovia

naive cedar
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strahd is a nerd

glass granite
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One of us

woven flint
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Strahd is dangerous for his intellect, dude is actually insanely smart

Many dms who play him... just aren't /joking

jaunty wyvern
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Strahd would've loved hellfire club 🕊️

naive cedar
woven flint
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Aye, sometimes the scope of what an npc can do is limited by what you mortals can think and achieve

naive cedar
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just get a real vampire to play strahd

jaunty wyvern
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that and unless you run the adventure in one session, players have effectively infinite time to come up with strategies

burnt valley
woven flint
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Not to mention, Barovia is STRAHDS domain
He is powerful enough there to straight up ban the use of some spells (Looks over at Daylight)
Also... he IS a Wizard

naive cedar
burnt valley
jaunty wyvern
woven flint
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Pyrotechnics Is a horrible spell

burnt valley
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The fog option

jaunty wyvern
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pyrotechnics is funny i will not tolerate this slander

burnt valley
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Heavy Obscurement and Wall of Force means casters cant misty step out

woven flint
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He'll also never permanently die either lmao

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If Strahd wasn't arrogant, he would realize he's nowhere near the peak of power!

jaunty wyvern
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im personally a fan of greater invisibility -> five thousand wolves

burnt valley
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if there was a sealing attempt, wouldn't the Dark Powers just free him

woven flint
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Yeah, most likely

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Nobody is gonna punish Strahd EXCEPT for the Dark Powers, lmao

burnt valley
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Imagine this, a 20th level necromancy wizard Strahd

woven flint
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They put him in his own personal "hell" for a reason, you think they're just gonna let him stay dead because some adventures came to kill him?

burnt valley
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No one tortures Strahd but the Dark Powers

uncut zenith
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Yeah, the point of the Domains of Dread is eternal punishment for the wicked things the Dark Lords have done

woven flint
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Strahd Von Losershit

burnt valley
uncut zenith
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Theoretically, you die if the Dark Powers let you. But 9/10 times, they’re not gonna let you.

woven flint
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Yeah, the Dark Powers are sadistic as hell lmao

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I always wondered what happened to Aizilin (?) Aizulin?
The lich who was Strahds Rival in a sense

uncut zenith
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Azalin Rex

woven flint
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Yeah, Azalin

uncut zenith
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What happened to him is designed to be a mystery so DMs can decide and build an overarching campaign around

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Though I have my own theory

woven flint
uncut zenith
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I think he’s ||Firan Zal’Honan, one of the Mist Walker NPCs. A. Because one of the gravestones in Azalin’s mausoleum belongs to his son, a man whose last name is Zal’Honan, and B. Because iirc that was his real name in prior editions lol||

woven flint
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Interesting 🧐

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Plot Twist:
Azalin is just taking a nap in a crypt somewhere for a while

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"I'm tired of your shit, Strahd! I'm gonna take a nap for a few Million years! When I get back, you better have paid YOUR side of the rent!"

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Thats why they had been arguing all along, because Strahd is a bum and doesn't help Azalin pay rent for their secret apartment they go to when adventures aren't bothering them

jaunty wyvern
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Theres no way Frauhd would do his dishes

uncut zenith
coarse ravine
prime stag
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Potentially

jaunty wyvern
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What if the dark powers made him like a shadow sorcerer?

prime stag
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it depends on several factors: the cleric's level, the zombies' hit dice (HD), and the luck of the rolls

lusty tendon
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Shadow/fey touched feat mentioned?

jaunty wyvern
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All roads lead to shadow touched

coarse ravine
inner silo
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Is it true that a lot of villains keep dopplegangers by their side?

lusty tendon
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Idk if they are an elf then id assume they have touched themselves (please dont take this out of context)

glass granite
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I was gonna say, phrasing much

glass granite
lusty tendon
jaunty wyvern
inner silo
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I see

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Alrighty, thanks for explaining

lusty tendon
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But funny enough my recent character im playing arcane trickster/order of scribes is a magic detective who is fey/shadow touched

inner silo
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Do changelings come from dopplegangers?

woven flint
lusty tendon
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(Variant human stats who got turned into an elf

jaunty wyvern
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no they are different things

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both are fey related but distinctly different species

woven flint
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Fey and Shadow touched are just lesser versions of actual planetouched (Genasi, Tieflings, Aasimar)

lusty tendon
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Yeah mine was just around enough potent magic that he got physically effected (visually and physically)

jaunty wyvern
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I'd love an infernal touched that gives you like a free hellish rebuke and some evocation magic

lusty tendon
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(Oddly not even the weirdest on the team) (genasi ranger who’s mount is her brother who got true polymorphed into a bear)

woven flint
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Hellish Rebuke, frankly, Stinks

jaunty wyvern
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it does which is why a free one would be worth it if you aren't using your reaction for anything elsew

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like a backline wiz or something

inner silo
lusty tendon
jaunty wyvern
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i just made it up

lusty tendon
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Damn 😔

woven flint
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A wizard in the Backlines would still use their reactions for stuff?
Counterspell, Silvery Barbs and Defense Spells.
I don't think you'd catch one using hellish rebuke instead of another option

jaunty wyvern
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A free scorching ray wouldnt be bad

lusty tendon
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Arcane trickster on the other hand, id use it constantly (if i could)

jaunty wyvern
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or maybe some of the illrigger spells

woven flint
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Hellish Rebuke is okay on paper, but it's pretty much taking damage to do damage that doesn't amount anywhere to the damage you've taken.

lusty tendon
woven flint
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Since Hellish Rebuke triggers when you're hit

lusty tendon
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Maybe darkness spell?

woven flint
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Darkness is okay for forcing movement, honestly, if they can't see you, they can't attack you (or at least have a hard time trying)

inner silo
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Divine touched with divine smite?

jaunty wyvern
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absolutely not

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well i mean i guess one per long rest wouldnt be bad

lusty tendon
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Imagine rogues with divine smite, as a rogue hard pass

inner silo
jaunty wyvern
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that is true

red peak
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materializes

lusty tendon
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Arcane tricksters are frothing at the mouth for the number of die rolls (im one of them)

inner silo
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I mean, the other touched spells give you a 2nd level spell free cast so i don't think it'd be that broken, right?

glass granite
red peak
glass granite
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You’re a Phoenix you’ll be fine

jaunty wyvern
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theyre a pheonix they rise from ashes cmon now

red peak
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ik ik

lusty tendon
red peak
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i am alive

inner silo
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call marut

red peak
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muahahah

red peak
jaunty wyvern
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are phoenixes considered beasts? or ar ethey elementals im curious

red peak
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i never really thought about that ngl

woven flint
jaunty wyvern
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theyre elementals

red peak
lusty tendon
woven flint
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Pheonixes are just considered Elementals

glass granite
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*phoenix

red peak
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its Phoenix for goodness sake

lusty tendon
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I think i found a home brew one

red peak
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🥹

glass granite
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Idk why the o is silent

red peak
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true

lusty tendon
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I say ponix (like the yugioh card)

red peak
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its not pheonix 💔

jaunty wyvern
woven flint
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Phoenix, Zaratan, Elder tempest and Leviathan, while all being giant beasts made of Elements.. are all Giant Elementals..
Because it wouldn't make sense for them to be beasts because they AREN'T actually animals, they're wholly made of their Elements

jaunty wyvern
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Yea solid element taken form

lusty tendon
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Leviathans are elementals?

woven flint
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Yes.
Water Elememtals

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Zaratan is a Giant Earth turtle elemental

red peak
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and im a bird

woven flint
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Elder Tempest is... a Wind Serpent Dragon Bird thing

lusty tendon
#

I would have considered them giant sea snake monstrosities

woven flint
jaunty wyvern
lusty tendon
#

Oddly a coatl is a type of dragon

jaunty wyvern
#

celestial actually

glass granite
red peak
woven flint
glass granite
red peak
#

owh-

glass granite
red peak
lusty tendon
woven flint
glass granite
red peak
#

tapes my beak shut

jaunty wyvern
#

one more rp action in discord chat and you will be rolling for success

red peak
#

e-

glass granite
#

Yeah this ain’t a roleplay server

red peak
#

yessir/ma’am :/

marble lion
#

it also aint a dad joke server yet here we are

jaunty wyvern
#

dad jokes are a very important part of dnd

marble lion
#

so is roleplay

lusty tendon
#

This is a serious not delirious server who serves nothing but the truth of dungeons deogens and monstrous creatures

glass granite
#

And dice

red peak
#

contemplating whether i should disappear 🤔

red peak
lusty tendon
woven flint
#

Friends.

I hunger.

lusty tendon
woven flint
#

To kick Strahds ass tonight, can I get a HELL YEAH?

glass granite
#

Heavens no!

marble lion
#

hes an alright dude just misunderstood maybe give him a hug

woven flint
marble lion
#

such violent behaviour in here

lusty tendon
#

I apologize

woven flint
glass granite
jaunty wyvern
glass granite
woven flint
red peak
#

i shall now poof

marble lion
#

and rise anew from the ashes

jaunty wyvern
#

lmao the book calls her that and we cant say it

lusty tendon
#

Its a fair rule they wanna keep it pg and i thought i censured it enough (sorry mods)

rough basalt
#

I find it funny how we keep avoiding menzo in my Tuesday game

lusty tendon
#

Menzobaranza?

storm magnet
#

Can a creature without a brain be prayed on by an intellect devourer?

woven flint
storm magnet
#

Like something insectoid

rough basalt
jaunty wyvern
#

exploring menzoberranzan is like walking around chicago in nothing but a bright shiny vest

storm magnet
#

Idk if insect species have brains or not

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The humanoid ones

lusty tendon
jaunty wyvern
#

why wouldnt they?

storm magnet
#

Cause irl insects don’t. They’re whole body is like a brain basically as I understand it

woven flint
#

If you're talking about Thri-Kreen, they definetly do have brains

lusty tendon
woven flint
#

So do Umberhulks

marble lion
#

brains

rough basalt
#

Most creatures have enough int to be prey for illithids tbh

woven flint
#

Oh! Thats what my original Thri-Kreen Character idea was...
A Gloomstalker Umberhulk lol

storm magnet
#

So it’s a matter of int stat rather than biological limitations?

lusty tendon
lusty tendon
storm magnet
#

What about an elemental

jaunty wyvern
#

Iirc i always played it as illithids consuming nuerons or any type of information transfer cells

lusty tendon
woven flint
#

Intellect Devourers, despite being whole brains, only have a 12 in int lol
Which isn't bad, it's just funny

jaunty wyvern
#

Theres not really any elemental species to play other than genasi

lusty tendon
#

Well he said elemental so idk if he meant race to play or creature

jaunty wyvern
#

Officially supported that is

woven flint
#

They have a 20 in Charisma?! (Intellect Devourers)

jaunty wyvern
#

Their personality is that of the hive mind and thus the personality of the elder brain

lusty tendon
#

That makes way too much sense

woven flint
#

True, that makes sense, ifs the Force of Prescence of the hivemind

jaunty wyvern
#

They might just not be made for thinking

#

That and they are the brains of thinking creatures no? So they would usually have around at least 10 int since thats the average

inner silo
#

Does the commoner have 10 in every stat?

jaunty wyvern
#

Some run it like that yea

woven flint
#

Intellect Devourers are also 3 feet long and weigh 60 pounds lmao

#

Little fatties.

jaunty wyvern
#

Brains are dense

inner silo
#

So usually adventurers will have at least 1 below average stat?

rough basalt
jaunty wyvern
#

Usually

rough basalt
#

the average commoner is normal across the board

#

cause in dnd worlds theyre always getting massacred so the gods have to mass print them off the assembly line so for time crunch they makeem all average

woven flint
# jaunty wyvern Brains are dense

You see, I don't think they're ACTUAL brains though, they're beings that LOOK like brains and can take over bodies while acting like one
But in the creature text it mentions its a creature that LOOKS like one

jaunty wyvern
#

Fun fact their hit die is usually a d8

jaunty wyvern
#

Theres a whole ritual the weirdos do

naive cedar
#

they parasite (is that a verb?) a person's brain

jaunty wyvern
#

No thats how they become mind flayers

#

Basically they just animate a persons brain

naive cedar
#

i thought intellect devourers were born from a person's brain

jaunty wyvern
#

They are the ritual facilitates that

umbral girder
naive cedar
#

in all seriousness charisma is probably just their casting stat

#

funny its not intelligence though

woven flint
#

I can kinda understand a bit?

jaunty wyvern
#

Intellect devourers are also cr 2 funnily enough despite them easily being able to one shot you

naive cedar
#

intellect devourers are cute lowkey

jaunty wyvern
#

Not as bad as shadows being 1/4 but still

halcyon forum
umbral girder
halcyon forum
#

little brain kitty

naive cedar
woven flint
umbral girder
#

Both 2014 and 2025 have 10 as their charisma

storm magnet
#

Can intellect devourers fit inside tiny heads/bodies?

woven flint
#

Ah, no, I read it wrong lmao

jaunty wyvern
#

They are more like badgers if you’re going by the actual 5e statblock

#

Angry little freaks

naive cedar
#

owlbears are also weirdly cat coded

woven flint
umbral girder
#

2025 introducing a flying Owlbear stat block is very funny

naive cedar
#

intellect devourers are cat coded and nobody is telling me otherwise

halcyon forum
woven flint
#

Well BG3 is dumb and stupid and wrong

halcyon forum
#

let it all out lol

naive cedar
#

no bg3 is based and correct. any small cute deadly creature is cat coded inherently

woven flint
#

Lmao

halcyon forum
#

tell us how you really feel

woven flint
#

I hate Bg3 :p

halcyon forum
#

tragic.

jaunty wyvern
umbral girder
halcyon forum
#

Calm emotions!

naive cedar
#

astarion is also cat coded. actually, vampires in general are cat coded. i will not elaborate.

jaunty wyvern
#

Regardless its a good thing since that means that intellect devourers enjoy lavender scents and deep tissue massages

halcyon forum
#

Owls are also cats

woven flint
#

"Intellect devourers were psionic aberrations that took the form of walking brains. They were servants of the mind flayers and were one of the most dreaded threats of the Underdark, with their power to consume intelligence and possess host bodies.They were also known as brain-dogs and rochnon"

woven flint
#

They're dogs, perish!

halcyon forum
#

brainkitty > braindog

naive cedar
#

just bc wotc was too cowardly to call them brain kitties doesnt mean that i dont know the truth

halcyon forum
#

just say it out loud

woven flint
#

Despite having a Tabaxi character, I dislike cats.

naive cedar
#

counterspell

woven flint
#

I don't hate them, I'm just not a cat person lol

naive cedar
#

thats fair lol im just joking around

jaunty wyvern
#

I’m playing a mute tabaxi monk/warlock in one of my games

woven flint
#

Though, I am a cat PERSON

naive cedar
#

i do think intellect devourers are cat coded though

woven flint
#

I think you're wrong.

naive cedar
#

nah im correct

woven flint
#

I think I like them more as dog-coded because everything else is already cat-coded and I want evil little brain dogs

buoyant oar
#

Give DnD Players enough time, they will call anything cat coded.

naive cedar
woven flint
#

You also forget that
Unlike Cats..
Intellect Devourers are LOYAL to their illithids.
So, Brain Dog

jaunty wyvern
#

Venger? Cat coded. Tiamat? Cat coded. Asmodeus? Cat coded.

naive cedar
woven flint
#

Cats feign loyalty to trick us into loving them

umbral girder
#

Not sure on Venger and Asmodeus.

But Tiamat as a cat makes a lot of sense.

hushed mason
#

Cats feign loyalty for food.

naive cedar
#

unironically i could see tiamat as a cat

woven flint
#

Helm is Dog-Coded
Bahamut is Dog-Coded
Ilmater is Dog-Coded (imo)
Because all are best boys

buoyant oar
#

There is Dog Loyalty
There is friend loyalty
There is Game of Thrones Character Loyalty.

And then 80 steps further away is Cat Loyalty

naive cedar
#

yall have never had a cat and it shows

jaunty wyvern
#

Instead of likening things to animals, I prefer the pineapple / banana scale.

buoyant oar
#

I have 3 of them lmao

woven flint
#

Lord Kas back at it with the Sass 🧐 /joking

hushed mason
uncut zenith
woven flint
#

Ilmater?
The one who endures? Fragile?

uncut zenith
#

Actually no, other way around

buoyant oar
uncut zenith
#

He’s a turtle

naive cedar
#

im mostly joking but in all seriousness cats can absolutely be loyal and some of them are super clingy

woven flint
#

Ilmaters Clerics are all about Endurance and so is he, they endure for the sake of others smh.

naive cedar
#

my cat wakes me up every morning at 1 am and demands cuddles

jaunty wyvern
#

Does that make sense?

woven flint
#

Calling Ilmater fragile is crazy smh..

naive cedar
#

ilmater is the opposite of fragile his whole thing is endurance

woven flint
#

That's literally what I just said!
He's Turtle-Coded

hushed mason
inner silo
naive cedar
naive cedar
woven flint
#

Hmm, I suppose, but I will not let anyone call my main man ilmater Fragile smh.

jaunty wyvern
#

I for one actually liked reading the phb and dmg

naive cedar
#

same

jaunty wyvern
#

I spent an afternoon reading the humblewood book and didnt realize i wasted like 5 hours doing so

naive cedar
#

i dont get the people who are like "i wanna play dnd but i dont wanna read the phb!!11" like bro what?

#

they act like its like reading a boring math textbook or something. its SO fun

jaunty wyvern
#

When is humblewood vol 2 coming out mannn i wanna play it so bad

naive cedar
#

the monster manuals alone are SO fun

buoyant oar
#

The one that honestly gets me is being intimidated by reading a book. I am not going to be exclusatory. I just don't get it. Being intimidated by a book.

naive cedar
#

yeah same. and whenever i talk about it people accuse me of being elitist or something and its like...its like saying you're intimidated by using a keyboard to play a video game

jaunty wyvern
#

Its definitely not something someone would just sit down and read i get it but still if you wanna play dnd at least skim it

naive cedar
#

idk i sit down and read phb

buoyant oar
#

TBF I also don't get it when my youger cousins would literally rather never eat pizza than call the pizza place. I just don't get it.

lean wigeon
#

i'd imagine a not insignificant number of people go into D&D expecting it's mostly just playing pretend/improv/larp with dice

jaunty wyvern
naive cedar
#

its not limited to dnd though. i used to make online roleplays and the number of people who would just refuse to read the, at most, one microsoft page long rules was weird

jaunty wyvern
#

Vecna when hes forced to use a keyboard instead of a controller:
SkullShocked

lusty tendon
#

One of my my most hated and loved abilities for any subclass is the ability to use another of the 6 main stats as another one of another (fey ranger) as i love characters who have a weakness to them even though they are the heros of the world

naive cedar
buoyant oar
#

Yeah, I have a West marches server and we have a formatted rule book with FAQs and stuff. It is like 8 pages of formatted text with pictures and larger fonts. Maybe 500 words.

I was told by someone to slim it down because potential players would not read all that.

#

My response was that if they lack the willpower to read 8 pages I don't want them anyway.

lusty tendon
naive cedar
#

honestly use that as a way to weed out people

naive cedar
buoyant oar
#

That we did. I never expect a new player to have read the PHB or anything cover to cover, or even know their character right away. But after session one. Bucko has home work.

inner silo
#

I'm pretty sure if you read the abilities of even 2/3 classes, races and backgrounds it'd be more then 500 words

rough basalt
#

i remember reading the new dmg from cover to cover, that was a undertaking

buoyant oar
#

I never expect a player to have ever read any book cover to cover. I do expect them to have read the options they are employing in the game end to end.

#

I have been told this is somehow unreasonable

inner silo
#

I think not reading also essentially blocks off all the caster classes, as you'll need to read through a bunch of spells to really play them

olive mauve
#

Question... Purely from basic PHB classes and races and rules

What race and multiclass combo would make the true "Jack of all trades, master of none." type character?

naive cedar
#

i can understand new players forgetting things tbf especially with like spell lists. but thats different from just not reading

rough basalt
woven flint
naive cedar
inner silo
#

Fr

olive mauve
woven flint
#

Bards, Rangers, Artificers and Rogues are all Jack of all Trade classes
Rogue is only that way with skills, however

keen kestrel
woven flint
#

And Ranger and Artificer are the half-caster jack of all trades

keen kestrel
#

Yes

inner silo
keen kestrel
#

I’d say fit artificers and rangers its more subclass dependent though

woven flint
glass granite
#

They’re very good at what they do tho
Combat

olive mauve
#

Bard is half caster though right? Now I think about it for the Jack of all trades combo you'd want the caster one, half caster one and the full martial one all at once

naive cedar
#

and aura farming

woven flint
#

Paladin overall is a good class, they're just not a skill-based individual

glass granite
#

Bards are a full casted

inner silo
olive mauve
#

I rarely get to the multiclass area before my characters die though

#

I have a planned multiclass though.

Paladin, Rouge and Artificer.

Essentially making me Batman.

#

In theory at least

inner silo
woven flint
olive mauve
woven flint
#

Why not just Rogue Artificer?

inner silo
olive mauve
woven flint
#

... okay? But...

keen kestrel
#

Batman is incredibly difficult to replicate in dnd

woven flint
#

That doesn't explain anything lol

keen kestrel
#

You’d prob need near max stats in every single stat

woven flint
olive mauve
keen kestrel
olive mauve
inner silo
olive mauve
#

I love point buy by the way.

still plover
olive mauve
buoyant oar
#

Batman is also kinda antithetical to DnD He is usually a loner style hero. So he has to be able to do it all. DnD is not that. It is all about having strengths and weaknesses. And having those weaknesses balanced out by the party.

naive cedar
#

batman is an artificer

umbral girder
#

Amusingly the closest “loner” type class is Ranger. Batman = Ranger is what I’m hearing

inner silo
umbral girder
olive mauve
naive cedar
olive mauve
inner silo
olive mauve
umbral girder
#

Functionally how much self dependent Batman is rarely ever changes no matter how many side kicks or teammates he has.

inner silo
#

Tbh isn't everyone from the batfamily some kind of rogue/monk mix with high int, cha and wis?

olive mauve
umbral girder
#

I can see Jason as a Fighter or Barbarian tbh

#

Plus as of 2024 both have a ton of skill versatility to working like Batman characters too.

olive mauve
#

I see Paladin as more flavour for him being a crusader type character

umbral girder
#

Nah you don’t need a magic oath to make a crusade against something.

umbral girder
#

Also Paladins aren’t crusaders.

terse wraith
#

Gulp.

olive mauve
umbral girder
#

Ranger and Paladin are the “does their job so well divine magic gives a thumbs up”

buoyant oar
#

Paladins were a real thing, and they weren't crusaders.

olive mauve
glass granite
olive mauve
buoyant oar
#

Yes they were your stereotypical Chavalric Knight

olive mauve
#

Finicky

buoyant oar
#

I didn't ask for your correction.

umbral girder
#

With how modern stuff of Jason makes him a brute and intimidation focused (and obviously being very angry) I can see Barbarian. That “primal power” could also be a lazarus pit thing.

terse wraith
#

I love Barbarian in BG3

buoyant oar
#

Barbarian is good in every place

umbral girder
#

He is the most (understandably) angry out of the Batman family

olive mauve
inner silo
terse wraith
umbral girder
hot marlin
inner silo
#

I see

olive mauve
#

Yes.

terse wraith
# inner silo I see

I haven’t played DnD other than BG3 so I wasn’t sure if there was a difference

hot marlin
#

Sorry, couldn't resist.

umbral girder
#

Rage now adds to things like Stealth, intimidation, etc now

olive mauve
olive mauve
terse wraith
#

I want to be Batman as my PC

umbral girder
#

Fighters can now use their extra uses of 2nd wind for skill checks now too.

terse wraith
#

I think One Piece would make a fantastic DnD campaign

olive mauve
terse wraith
#

I will name my first child that

inner silo
#

What are the best charisma races?

olive mauve
terse wraith
#

So what’s the difference between a Sorcerer and a Wizard

hot marlin
# glass granite Knights of Charlemagne iirc?

Yes. There were twelve of them. Really only noticeable for their mention in the song of Roland, written between 1050 and 1115. Charlemagne himself having reigned during the 9th century.

And yeah, not crusaders, quite the opposite. Paladins mostly appear in stories about the Umayyad invasion of Gaul, where they are defending against invasion rather than invading.
Of course the narrative of the paladins have been written during the crusades, so they served a certain political purpose.

umbral girder
inner silo
terse wraith
inner silo
umbral girder
terse wraith
#

I don’t know why but I really hate the term wizards so I don’t think I’ll ever be one anyway

umbral girder
#

Tasha’s lets you change the ability scores as does Monsters of the Multiverse.

olive mauve
#

I have an idea about what IRL languages would be the main racial D&D languages of the famous races.

Infernal - Italian
Common - English
Dwarvish - Gaelic/Welsh
Draconic - Spanish
Gnomish - Russian
Halfling - Japanese
Orcish - Afrikaans
Elvish - French

How accurate do you think it is?

uncut zenith
#

Tasha’s lets you change racial scores, but MotM races don’t start with racial ASI at all

umbral girder
buoyant oar
#

Some of those links and languages would produce stereotypes real fast

uncut zenith
#

Sorcerers have innate magic that is latent at the start but “unlocks” as they progress. Wizards learn their magic through studies.

olive mauve
terse wraith
umbral girder
#

Sorcerer is more innate not born with.

olive mauve
terse wraith
#

That’s rude

olive mauve
#

Oh yeah there's that

inner silo
#

Why the french hate?

umbral girder
#

Yikes

olive mauve
#

I was more thinking Canadian French for Elves.

uncut zenith
#

Big yikes

terse wraith
#

Oh are they?

buoyant oar
#

Chondathan in Faerûn is similar in french not in its sound of grammar but that it has an Italic base and has spread very far.

hidden spindle
#

I love the concept of languages and how best to use it.

terse wraith
#

I don’t know much dnd lore about the races

olive mauve
terse wraith
#

I just like elves

hidden spindle
#

Druidic for Druids.
Thieves Cant for Rogues.

naive cedar
#

i can confirm that im an elf

olive mauve
olive mauve
buoyant oar
olive mauve
#

I know nothing about the lore.

umbral girder
#

I think comparing our IRL cultures and people to fantasy races as a type culture might be a bit iffy.

uncut zenith
#

Yeah, especially if you’re relying on stereotypes

naive cedar
#

getting more specific with it: moon elves are ppl from ontario, wood elves are bc, sun elves are alberta, drow are quebec, wild eleves are the other two prairie provinces, and sea elves are maritimes

olive mauve
umbral girder
#

Elves are a race after all, so they can be part of any culture.

hot marlin
naive cedar
#

also, if you just want random non canon elvish words or names, id recommend going with welsh

olive mauve
hot marlin
#

Are you telling me you know italien, gaelic, welsh, spanish, russian, japanese, afrikaan and french?

terse wraith
naive cedar
#

(without revealing my actual location im a sea elf going by my own sorting)

olive mauve
terse wraith
hot marlin
naive cedar
terse wraith
olive mauve
naive cedar
olive mauve
#

Wanna know what the Welsh word for a microwave is?

hot marlin
#

Then is there a reason you wouldn't use the Tolkien languages? Specifically for orcish, dwarvish and elvish?

terse wraith
#

I love pirates

hot marlin
#

Well yeah. Nothing is Tolkien, he's dead.

olive mauve
naive cedar
#

i think im into tolkien and then i talk to actual tolkien nerds and feel like a dumb dumb

terse wraith
#

I have never read or watched LOTR unfortunately

hot marlin
#

Nerds live for making other people feel like dumb dumbs, it's not just you

olive mauve
#

I have never read the books. I have watched the films

olive mauve
umbral girder
#

Tbh the books aren’t too long.

naive cedar
#

i read the books a decade ago

umbral girder
#

Only around 1200 pages

olive mauve
#

It is a very interesting word in Welsh for microwave.

uncut zenith
#

They’re mostly dense

terse wraith
hot marlin
naive cedar
#

they arent that long but youll feel like its been an eternity when he goes on the tenth 20 page side discussion about elf cuisine or whatever

hot marlin
#

Now, people who don't actually know welsh mindlessly repeat the joke that it's "popty-ping".

naive cedar
#

ive never heard that joke before but im not even sure why thats supposed to be funny tbh

terse wraith
lyric viper
#

Folk, we're getting a lil off target

naive cedar
umbral girder
olive mauve
terse wraith
olive mauve
lyric viper
#

Please refocus back to D&D and try and avoid any worldbuilding that builds off stereotypes that can be harmful to real people, 'joking' or not, which the 'What language/accent/people are (Fantasy race)' plays into.

olive mauve
hot marlin
#

See, this is why I've decided to only use either dead languages or Tolkien languages.

uncut zenith
#

I just describe how the languages sound like… non-verbally

olive mauve
uncut zenith
#

Dwarvish is harsh and guttural, elvish and fey tend to be more lyrical and light, infernal sounds sinister, etc

hot marlin
#

See, people say that but... To me, no language sounds "harsh". Only certain speakers sound harsh.

naive cedar
#

for elf characters specifically i go with canon elvish words when i can. if not i go with welsh (ideally older forms of welsh. thats just for names though

hidden spindle
hot marlin
#

Like, there's the stereotype that "german sounds angry", but that comes from people whose main exposure to german is WW2 movies.

naive cedar
olive mauve
hot marlin
#

Languages don't sound harsh, light, lyrical or anything like that. Only speakers do.

naive cedar
buoyant oar
#

Setting Specific Regional Languages >>>>>> Species Languages

naive cedar
#

i always wondered what english sounds like to non english speakers

hot marlin
#

And my favourite personal rule: "There is no such thing as common"

olive mauve
hidden spindle
naive cedar
olive mauve
olive mauve
buoyant oar
#

A man from Tethyr would not call him Human, he would call himself Tethyrian. A man from Thay would be Mulani. A woman from Sespech would be Chondathan.

lyric viper
#

I (would like to) treat common as the 'trade language'. Shifts from region to region, but is a simpler language mostly used for basic communcation and trade.

In reality- ... aahh everyone's speaking the same language until it's important for the story that players not understand what is being said >.>

wintry mortar
#

i like qualith and tir su but there doesnt seem to be as much resources for those as other languages : [

naive cedar
olive mauve
hot marlin
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For me it's simpler. There is no trade language, there is no common. The common on your character sheet? If we're playing in the Sword Coast, that's Illuskan.

buoyant oar
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Yeah I prefer Common as it has been presented in the realms. A trade Language that is No ones first tongue, and it is not a complete language at that.

The sigil story in the new books is kinda an eye roll for me

minor cargo
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I’m surprised nobody had mentioned the game Dialect yet. For those who really like this idea, I recommend looking it up! It’s not D&D of course but similar to other TTRPFs, you can use it to make, well, dialects in your games feel so much more impactful and deep.

olive mauve
hot marlin
tawdry sentinel
buoyant oar
umbral girder
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Personally I like the First World version instead of the Sigil origin.

uncut zenith
graceful crest
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hi

umbral girder
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The idea is all these languages and races etc came from the First world, when it shattered into multiple worlds everyone still has these similarities in races, language, magic, etc.

lyric viper
buoyant oar
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Elvish persevered somehow from the first world when English hasn't survived 500 years in a constant state

olive mauve
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My favourite thing to do for homebrew languages is to get the alphabet of one language and superimpose that onto the words and grammar rules of another. My current one is Polish words and grammar with the Welsh alphabet.

I don't know if this is offensive but it's less work than making it from scratch and lets me use it on keyboards.

buoyant oar
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Most of the first world stuff isn't my cup of tea either. Really. I get why it exists but its okay to have the settings be a tiny bit more independent. There does not need to be a universal answer to the origin of things.

hot marlin
uncut zenith
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Well that's why I like the First World as an in-world myth. Which is how it's presented.

umbral girder
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Mainly with First world it’s basically Multiverse stuff again. The “it’s you in an alternate universe!”

uncut zenith
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It's not real, it's just what dragons tend to believe is real

hot marlin
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English from six centuries ago is completely impossible to understand without actual studies into its grammar and rules

olive mauve
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It's looking like I need to actually look at the D&D lore because this all sounds AWESOME!!!!

hot marlin
umbral girder
graceful crest
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sorry

olive mauve
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My Paladins all worship the Omnisiah.

blissful dragon
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their was that strange bit of old dnd lore that not canon anymore of people from earth ended up in faurn and that being the source of gods like thor and set

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also fox being imported from france for some reason

olive mauve
buoyant oar
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The connections to Earth is because that's what the term forgotten Realms means.

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It was a realm that was connected to Earth, but the portals and links began to deteriorate over time, meaning they became Forgotten Realms

blissful dragon
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to be honest i kind of love the foxes are from france lore cause its fun in a slighty silly sort of way

naive cedar
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elminster loves Dr Pepper btw

tawdry sentinel
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Professor Peppy>

olive mauve
buoyant oar
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The god Emperor is not real to our Earth.

blissful dragon
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yeah sometimes the most fun you can have is when the dm and players make up some silly lore like that

umbral girder
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And a few novels I think.

blissful dragon
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ah ok so i guess thats still sort of canon then

olive mauve
olive mauve
buoyant oar
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Yep the Mulhorandi, and Untherans Are likely descendants from Egyptian and Mesopotamian peoples from earth Stolen from their Homeland by the most powerful race of humans to ever exist on Toril.

naive cedar
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a bunch of kuo toa finding a Warhammer 40k book and worshipping the god emperor

buoyant oar
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They were so powerful that the gods of those pantheons had to come to Toril. And fight them. And even then it was still a war.

snow zephyr
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Iirc, Tiamet was originally a goddess from earth in the original lore

olive mauve
buoyant oar
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Gilgeam is Gilgamesh

naive cedar
umbral girder
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Well Tiamat is from an actual old religion last I checked.
Bahamut too.

snow zephyr
olive mauve
buoyant oar
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Yeah they're both from Mesopotamia. Along with Gilgamesh. Which makes sense why gilgeam hates dragon so much

naive cedar
snow zephyr
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Sort of, but fantasy fish orks

snow zephyr
naive cedar
olive mauve
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Especially the Weird Boyz

snow zephyr
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Well yes, but actually, no. The kuo toa differ in function because it's heavily tied to worship as opposed to pure consensus

buoyant oar
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You know, come to think of it. One of these species languages that I really did not care for. Is the fact that tieflings know infernal right out of the bat.

Especially since there has been this distancing of any sort of untowardness in their blood or their soul. But they just start learning. Literally the devil's speech out of nowhere. That's suspicious.

snow zephyr
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That and the orks need huge amounts of waagh energy to make the consensus magic happen even a little

hot marlin
olive mauve
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Cuz, if purple Orks aren't the stealfiest, then why 'ave yer nevah seen a purple Ork.

That's my favourite meme

snow zephyr
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They're described as a race always under suspicion by the ill informed

hot marlin
buoyant oar
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Them just automatically knowing that tongue seems like a vestigial thing is what I'm saying. If there was no tiefling nation in most worlds and they really shouldn't get a language considering that they can be born of nearly any species

olive mauve
snow zephyr
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I feel like telepathy would be more thematic to a degree

hot marlin
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Moreover, Elminster visited earth in the 80s when it was the middle of the 14th century in Toril. It's now the end of the 15th century in Toril, more than a century later.

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This means that present-day Toril takes place in 2130.

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So... Most likely, in present canon, earth is an irradiated wasteland.

blissful dragon
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i would imagine time doesnt flow equal between worlds

whole egret
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Hello chat

buoyant oar
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To be fair, the Realms did sort of March on close to real time and then the The fandom gathered around as the designers of Dungeons& Dragons 4th edition prepared to do something demonstrably stupid.

blissful dragon
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that message makes me remember that thing i heard about how chat seem to be becoming the new collective noun for a group of people

buoyant oar
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Hang around a group of 12 to 17-year-olds and you'll hear it a lot

naive cedar
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you walk into a courtroom and the lawyer is like “listen chat…”

umbral girder
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Assuming the Time ratio between D&D and Toril is 1:1.

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Places like the Astral Sea and Feywild do show time can be different after all.

blissful dragon
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i wonder how maybe people have done the warlock is live scrying to their parton

umbral girder
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Also technically IRL too as speed seems to effect time.

stark tundra
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The fae wild is different

rough basalt
buoyant oar
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FR lore is too complicated.

Proceeds to make it even more complicated. And then immediately backtracks making it even further complicated.

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You can see evidence of this when you look at the the pantheons and how some of them are aspects of other gods and then they're back to being themselves. Or this God was actually that got into skies but actually no he wasn't.

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Whole thing was a mess

rough basalt
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Honestly it was quite the design idea

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Ruin something then ruin it further, making the creator and all of its lovers leave or almost leave it entirely

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It's a surprise it didn't work out.

buoyant oar
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Here's my hot take. I don't hate the spell plague. I honestly think that's a really cool and neat idea. A neat world event for the Realms. Perfect for signifying the transition from one Edition to another. Would have been awesome to be a player or a dungeon master to play during those events.

What was stupid was the 100-year time skip.

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Hey! Here's this awesome world shattering event.

Also it's been over for 90 years

eager marsh
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Pretty sure all magic not functioning correctly/at all would cause issues with anyone wanting to play a spellcaster

rough basalt
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Drizzt watching his future wife rapidly age and die cause a group of gods propelled the world 100 years because they were bored

buoyant oar
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I'm sure they could easily figure something out. The spell plague itself only lasted 10 years. It was over by 1395 DR.

eager marsh
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I mean you can still choose to run games during that time after the ten years perfectly fine

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In fact the time skip happening is a good thing because it means they’ve already roughly established how various lands and factions recovered and you can use that as your guide point

timid current
rough basalt
buoyant oar
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And I have. What I'm saying is that skipping to 1479 was a Galaxy brain decision. That in retrospect was not a very good one considering the immediately backpedaled.

But the thing is is that the 4th edition guide doesn't really State how the lands have recovered. Most of them are still reeling 90 years later.

azure jasper
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If im a hexblade warlock with agonizing blast eldritch blast and hex
and my charisma modifer is +5
would that be 1d10+5(agonizing blast)+5(hexblade curse) +1d6
where its basically 1d10+10 + 1d6 per beam

eager marsh
buoyant oar
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The healing and reclamation came in 5th edition with the advent of the sundering.

eager marsh
rough basalt
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Ye a 100 year time skip where nothing happened just cause the designers were bored wasn't the greatest idea.

buoyant oar
eager marsh
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Oh they did that over Ed’s head. Ok yea that feels ultra rude and disrespectful

buoyant oar
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It's one of the reasons why he and Wizards of the Coast don't talk anymore

azure jasper
eager marsh
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Wasn’t aware there had been a falling out

eager marsh
buoyant oar
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The design team of 4th edition and 5th edition. Were very antagonistic towards Greenwood. To the point where I was personally shocked that his name was mentioned in the new FR guides at all.

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A sign of better things to come I think

eager marsh
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Why on earth would you want to be antagonistic to the guy the literally created the world for your game

rough basalt
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Cause they were bored (I don't think there's any justifiable reason. More likely they thought they do it better.)

vagrant quartz
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i finally finished putting all the cultists in the cultist base

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it took so long T_T

buoyant oar
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For a very long time, Ed was still seen as an authority over the Realms by the fans, even though he's had no legal authority over it since 1985. Wizards of the coast wanted to change how the setting was presented going into 4th edition. To fit in better lines with their design ideology for the Edition as a whole. This was incongruent with the Realms. And so they forced it. Without discussion.

eager marsh
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Sounds about right for a corporate call

buoyant oar
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They then asked him and the other authors to fix it. Less than 3 years later. Which is where the sundering novels came from

eager marsh
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I sure hope they extorted those checks

buoyant oar
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Once the new Edition was out. And Ed's last book contract was fulfilled in 2016/2017. They dropped them

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They only kept Salvatore because his books sell like hotcakes but even he had to go find his own personal publisher outside of D&D.

rough basalt
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And only reason he still makes Drizzt is he loves it

west sail
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D&D character idea a druid that does not wild shape but has animal speech and draws his magic from the planet meaning he can use earth and plant life

buoyant oar
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The modern teams seem to appreciate Greenwood's work. Which I appreciate considering that he has been a lifeblood to the community and an ally far longer than any corporation has.

But I still think it's going to be a long time before you see his name as a consultant in one of the books like you do with Keith Baker.

azure jasper
buoyant oar
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And as much as I would love to see that, I wouldn't really blame him if he decided to stay on the DMs Guild and his little patreon corner

rough basalt
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Ye the current teams seem to be trying to deal with the damage the 4e to early 2020s teams did in that regard

buoyant oar
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Now considering that the majority of that team is gone. I think it will start to self-heal.

rough basalt
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Like them putting the Abominable Vaults pf2e AP 5e conversion on DnD beyond with a paizo partnership.

buoyant oar
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I mean that was a long time when Wizards of the Coast didn't go to conventions like at all

hot marlin
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If you're going to convert a PF campaign, why Abomination Vault btw?

buoyant oar
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I think they did that one themselves. Wizards of the Coast didn't do it

hot marlin
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Yeah, but it's a bit of a weird choice.

buoyant oar
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Paizo DiD a lot of their campaigns for both 2e and 5e

snow zephyr
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Didn't we get a MtG expansion?

buoyant oar
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We've gotten four of those

hot marlin
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I mean, I like abomination vault.

snow zephyr
rough basalt
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Yeah a few APs have 5e conversions by Paizo

ionic forge
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hello 🙂

rough basalt
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I imagine over time theyll probably add the other conversions to ddb

buoyant oar
snow zephyr
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I'm just waiting for the Final Fantasy crossover

spice moth
snow zephyr