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milking the campaign
and imagination has been around since the dawn of humanity
Robert Wardaugh has been playing the same game in his Canadian home for 40+ years.
Like, nerd couple get a son, introduce the son into DND, play with him
The son then play it in the school with friends
Highschool too
etc. etc.
get couple
Marry
Get a son
Repeat process
me invent wheel
this is impossible in a third world country
which I'm in
likely longer, H.G. Wells just formalized a lot of rules in a book so new people could get up to speed instead of requiring someone to teach them.
Right?
if I ever manage to get a kid I'd probably introduce him to dnd
not at all, now in day its easier
my dm allowed me to make my character have a stand from jjba
none of my friends know dnd
irl friends
Hello good afternoon everyone I'm new to the platform do y'all know how I can send a message in the looking for players channel?
I'm kinda too dumb
Kriegsspiel is what I was referring to. From the early mid 1800s
the #find-a-game channel should have info on how to use the looking for players channel
I was first so I'm better
is there a hat tipping emoji?
Oh alright tank you
I have been running the game longer than my average player has been alive. And they can all drink in the US.
Lmfao
same thing, but now in day is more possible
I wanna teach my friends dnd but I'm not a good dm
gather your friends and tell them its soccer with some slight rules changes. then proceed to teach them D&D. try to see how long you get before someone tells you this isn't anything like soccer.
"boss give you quest do quest"
As soon as you pull out the dice and dm screen it's over lmao
Nobody was born a good DM.
my mom doesn't allow friends over
what about enemies? you could tell your mom they're enemies instead of friends.
What about a soccer campaign, that would reel them in
Great idea
and to top it off I'd add bloodlines of each soccer player that gives bonuses
and I'd wheel of fate it
i love orcs
Where do sorcerers keep track of their sorcery points on their sheet?
a match between soccerers
Under features and traits generally
Dragon!
Soccer? Poor Sport. All my calimshan homies get charged up about a game of Deathball though
I usually just use lines to represent how many I have, since it’s easy to add to that (unless you use a pencil, then erase it and change the amount on level up
I'm not even from Calimshan, but I LOVE Deathball!!!
I'm so excited to start my first campaign soon, we have our session 0 this weekend 
I hope you fall in love with it
Grateful for my brother or as i call him "D&D playtesting unit 001"
Running social encounters with npcs beforehand as a demo is actually goated
guess who i love
Who
orcs
BOOOOO
actually I did just make an orc blood bowl team and they hit hard
Orcs are cool
I love vampires
Hellooooooo
How are you?
Very well thank you! Today is a d&d prep day and there is no better day lol
How are you?
Oh awesome XD
I’m good thanks
Just give them Venca it’ll be funny trust
(Jk Jk XD)
seems like a good idea
what could possibly go wrong
Just keep throwing encounters at them for as long as they can take them. See how long they last 😏
Any room for Half-Orcs?
Challenge rating is usually a pretty good estimate, although sometimes it can be a range
I usually will put one for each party member or two if they are smaller creatures like wolves
You could slightly outnumber them if you want them to feel stressed
They also don't have to be trying to kill the PCs. Sometimes if I feel my players need a win I'll have the enemies try and take something from them instead of trying to kill
Lvl 4 is still pretty squishy but they have their subclasses which is nice
I now own a giant d20
Does anyone use chatgpt for character creation? Or, anything creative in regards to dnd? Ive been using it for the last few months and ive come up with some pretty cool concepts.
Ai doesn't belong in DND in my opinion
I've used it to punch up ideas before
Not ChatGPT but I've used randomizers in Google Sheets
I'll take the ideas I like and write them in myself
Based?
It's nice for brainstorming sometimes imo
I mean fair
Its like a programmer writing up a program for a video game. If you're a purist I respect it but at the end of the day its just a tool.
No it's the opposite of brainstorming
I mean I just feel like AI is something that doesn't belong in everything like I hate Gemini but can't disable it without disabling all of google
It is literally just copy pasting other peoples' ideas. It's lazy and says you don't care about what you're working on
I mean he made a valid point
I wouldn’t use it but using it for ideas can be helpful 😭
If someone brings chatgpt to my table that says they don't care enough and they can find another table
As long as you’re not just copy pasting
It is just copy and pasting
That's like saying stealing a painting is okay if you rub a little dirt on it
Not in a copy-paste sense, but having a sounding board for simple ideas can give you new avenues
I’m not gonna argue about ts 😔
I hate ai as much as the next person but Cowzrock has a point
Oh sry
It's not a sounding board It's an automated theft machine
Honesty that statement right there is what's wrong with people they think ai is gonna help us it will maybe but it's also so company's can cut out the art team or the game devs and charge more for less work
And it says you don't care whatsoever about what you're doing or about actual creatives
Ai is helping to kill the voice actor community
Bruh, anything can be used to help a creative to create. Its just how much work you put into it.
"It's okay to burn the world so I can steal someone else's idea/effort and make the world a more boring, dumb place"
So yeah if you bring ai to my D&D table, you can keep walking and find another one. I prefer playing games with people
Gang what if we talk about something else fr
Agreed
That would be pretty awesome 😭
If you're using ai, you're not a creative and you aren't creating. You're a consumer and you're stealing. That's all
So to ensure we are discussing d&d, it is an intrinsically creative and collaborative hobby and community.
Okay bro i agree with you but can we just like move on please 🙏🙏🙏
I'm not stopping you, I simply wasn't done with what I was saying
Alright. Anyways how are yall?
Agreed
I'm great, thank you for asking. I might have eaten too many dried mango slices tho
Oh no 😭😭😭
Im good. Got my overly filled s&d schedule.
Those sound fire tho 😔
Na they are mango
Rip 😔
Mango is amazing wdym
hi everyone, i am new to d&d, but i`m interested to play. what do I need to know about the game to start playing? I will be grateful for any help
orcs
the gods most devoted orc lover
I don’t like AI in dnd, I think reading some random guy’s pdf from 2003 and a forum thread where people passionately discuss the mathematically best hex system is essential.
That’s on a dm level, and I also dislike brainrot anywhere near me, so ai is a no-brainer.
The tiktok way people talk makes me recoil, having someone watch TikTok during dnd, having chatgpt backstories make me sort of sad. It feels like creativity is dying, like the people around me have nothing to say and any opinions they do have are vapid.
I think I just miss dnd and forums being for geeks, for losers who like to roleplay cringe elves and use it to escape bullying. I partially blame baldur’s gate.
Yeesh what a take lol
Another AI convo
I don’t (I dislike it on principle), but I think there are a lot of tools that help create ideas and are more original and teach you things.
That’s certainly a take
Atleast the end bit lol
Gatekeeping your hobby is such an odd thing to me
I can't really say much on the concept of using AI for character creation as I've used a random character generator for years to give me character ideas and direction
much before GenAi
Yeah, I agree with disliking AI, but the whole “creativity is dying” thing as a whole? As if people 40 years ago weren’t creating D&D characters that were basically established fantasy characters with a different name?
Eh idc if someone uses AI, I don’t but I’ve seen it used fine before.
lol yea I regularly find characters I like in fiction and try to remake them using the core rules just for fun
I’ve seen interesting chars made with help from ai and boring normal made chars
That’s a good point, I’m mostly talking about dming not character creation and for me that’s a bit different
Yeah people have been doing that for decades
DMs have been doing that for decades too. A lot of adventures are based on something someone’s ready in a novel or watched in a movie.
Everything’s derivative of something. Nothing’s 100% original.
That do be how ideas are formed. Whatever someone creates is the sum of their experiences in the world.
On point my guy
Yeah, but they are using the source’s due to passion and a desire to emulate. It’s fun and sweet
Like Curse of Strahd. One of the most popular adventures in 5E and the main plot is basically Dracula with the serial number filed off.
originality is a trap
Another strahd L
Tropes done well hit way better than originality that sucks
new quest hook “I was trying to hunt the Amnesia Bear but I don’t remember why.”
I don’t think things have to be original, I stated that reading other’s peoples things are important. I think emulating from passion is different than having an ai who doesn’t even understand what its copying giving you an idea you also don’t care about
I personally love feeling the feeling of the soul that someone put in something or a character. Originality or not.
I’m not saying originality is better than emulation, I’m saying I dislike having people play dnd who don’t really care about playing and people who think a lot of it is cringe or that being cringe and weirdly interested is bad
I agree with that statement
That's that universal translation or meaning that tracks across all types of people, culturally, linguistically. Even modality.
even if you're ripping someone off lazily, ripping off with an idea you created yourself > AI generating
bc the way that the human creative brain filters an idea is still fundamentally different from what a robot spits out
I agree with this
for example, there are popular works of fiction that i think are boring, lazy, and derivative, but they still have unique elements that make them a legitimate work of creative fiction
I dislike fourth wing, but I think it’s far better than any ai can ever conceive of
also, while i agree that using tropes isnt inherently bad, i do think that "great" works of fiction need to bring something new to the table, if that makes sense. that can be as simple as a unique twist on an old trope
What are you guys talking about right now?
i found a.i. somewhat helpful for looking up sources on dumb questions i have (like if humans ever historically fist fought using rings) but that's about how far i would go
i logged in and people are talking about AI
Im new here and asked questions. Thats what brought it up.
not trying to give you a hard time but dont use google AI to answer questions because its not correct. you can check the sources that google AI cites though
There’s a person who despite how cringe and odd it is, decided they wanted to write it and I’m proud and happy for them. I like my cringe dnd characters, and ripoff Legolas is someone’s passion baby so I love it too. I miss being so unabashedly cringe in every way
i do both, my questions just too idiotic usually to find a lot of sources
I like your vibes alleycat
like what plate armor would be best for fistfighting (it's all of them)
the other day i typed a question into google AI and then typed it again 20 minutes later and it gave me the polar opposite answer...lol
google ai easier to gaslight than me fr
In celebration of human made creativity, what's everyone's favorite DND characters they made?
oh also: character execution matters just as much as originality of ideas imo
I understand how that feels, I just search through the wretched corners of knowledge in pursuit of medieval cabbage farming
boxing lizard
This is the good stuff right here
It matters way more in my opinion. I’ve seen characters with concepts I thought were bad and were awesome in practice
A elf monk who got tired of everyone's bullshit and started wearing knuckle dusters to prove a point.
i was researching plate armor fistfighting because i got the idea of parrying swords using your bare fists
my very first character as a 10 year old who was a wood half-elf ranger. she was boring and unoriginal but she was MY character darn it
she also had a frost wolf companion who wasnt evil for some reason
Hell yeah!!!
My first DND character was a Strigoi (humanoid stirge) that didn't have a name so the party named them Coy
mine was ranger too, but an aarakocra whose favored enemy was dragons
My first character was a Shifter Monk fella
He was a deer lad
Mine was a spellblade wannabe trying to run on dnd 3e logic. Old school party.
My arwen (autocorrect) knockoff, and my disney princess like drow druid healer
ive only now realized i haven't played a character with a weapon for years now
I also had an eowyn knockoff, but my arwen knockoff became increasingly deranged and it was fun
My first "original" character was a gambling obsessed rogue based on Setzer from FF6
I cant do weapons for some reason. They always look cool but I have no frame of reference on how to use them. So I always end up using fists...while having a sword on my back that is more for show
I can use a sword and longbow poorly irl
for me, krumping bandits never got old
i train boxing poorly irl so i just imagine that when in combat lol
I took some martial arts as a kid so, thats what I naturally settle for. So I feel you.
Bow? We talking hunting or target practice?
turns out it's pretty fun to try doing cool moves
ive never even touched a weapon irl so i just research and wing it
we had to learn arnis in school (philippines) so i only know basic strikes and stuff
I took fencing for like 5 years of my life so I can't really imagine myself using anything other than small finesse weapons
if i tried to use anything larger than a butter knife id probably hurt myself
that's how you learn ♥️
This made me spit out my coffee
i used to be terrified of knives so i would make my mom cut my sandwiches for me until i was 12
hmm. new dnd character idea
i injured my hands every time we were given sticks because i got that into it
i was thinking more like a wizard who went to wizard school not because they like magic that much but bc their family is all fighters and they're terrified of knives
ig bladesinger off the table for them then
no gandalf with sword aura farming for them
Can we define fighting style here? Or is that another channel?
since you can enter bladesong with anything now it wouldn't be out of the question to have like brass knuckles as a spellcasting focus
have magic anklets and make a breakdancing wizard
Thats what I did. Its down and dirty.
THATS MY DANCER BARD
i just imagined elminster breakdancing
insert gif of gandalf spinning on the floor:
aw they dont embed
atleast the dragon didn't eat this one
thats just what gandalf does at the wizard reunion parties
tenser strikes me as a man who loves disco tec
Elminster?
More like
ElMIDster
what
We all know the best wizard in the forgotten realms is Bigby
gale? more like fail
nah its volo
Bigby?
More like
Smallby!
Because he's a GNOME NOW!!!
guess what
you like elves?
edwin? more like edWIN (he could take on elminster by himself)
Terrasque butt?
incorrect
I was right, it seems
i love all fey, including elves
Elves aren't Fey.
They're related to Fey, but they're far along the line enough to where they're not considered Fey anymore
shhhh they're close enough 🥰
huh, just realized a bladesinger wizard could conjure up an entire crew of backup dancers if they wanted to
Did you know
Bladesong doesn't require you to sing or dance at all? 🧐
yeah but i want my wizard boy band
recreating the choreo of bye bye bye when they raise the dead
My Harengon Wizards a practitioner of bladesong, he eventually plans on passing down that knowledge to his dragon daughter :p
When she learns how to shapechange
Might be a few hundreds of years, guess I better start getting clones ready
omg i will finally have an excuse to badly sing 2000s pops songs in my future table
Remind me never to play with you /joking
you will hear the reminder, very loudly
I greet the Lord of Goofy!
don't EVER interact with me if you are an elf
Whats your guys' favorite niche spell combination. Stuff that isn't neccessarily powerful but just fun to pull off?\
I play a Drow as one of my many characters we cannot interact.
I'm playing him tonight actually
He may or may not die to Strahd tonight, I dunno
Frauhd isn't dangerous I had a party full of bards vicious mockery him to death
For reference, I'm not playing Curse of Strahd, I'm playing Eve of Ruin and we're headed for Barovia
strahd is a nerd
One of us
Strahd is dangerous for his intellect, dude is actually insanely smart
Many dms who play him... just aren't /joking
Strahd would've loved hellfire club 🕊️
this applies to a lot of npcs tbh
Aye, sometimes the scope of what an npc can do is limited by what you mortals can think and achieve
just get a real vampire to play strahd
that and unless you run the adventure in one session, players have effectively infinite time to come up with strategies
True and real
Not to mention, Barovia is STRAHDS domain
He is powerful enough there to straight up ban the use of some spells (Looks over at Daylight)
Also... he IS a Wizard
further proof that he's a nerd
Give Strahd Wall of Force and Pyrotechnics
ahem his strongest spell is blight
Pyrotechnics Is a horrible spell
The fog option
pyrotechnics is funny i will not tolerate this slander
Heavy Obscurement and Wall of Force means casters cant misty step out
That doesn't change the fact that Strahd has pretty much complete control over Barovia
He'll also never permanently die either lmao
If Strahd wasn't arrogant, he would realize he's nowhere near the peak of power!
im personally a fan of greater invisibility -> five thousand wolves
if there was a sealing attempt, wouldn't the Dark Powers just free him
Imagine this, a 20th level necromancy wizard Strahd
They put him in his own personal "hell" for a reason, you think they're just gonna let him stay dead because some adventures came to kill him?
No one tortures Strahd but the Dark Powers
Yeah, the point of the Domains of Dread is eternal punishment for the wicked things the Dark Lords have done
Strahd Von Losershit
its also the only way out of Athas 😭
Theoretically, you die if the Dark Powers let you. But 9/10 times, they’re not gonna let you.
Yeah, the Dark Powers are sadistic as hell lmao
I always wondered what happened to Aizilin (?) Aizulin?
The lich who was Strahds Rival in a sense
Azalin Rex
Yeah, Azalin
What happened to him is designed to be a mystery so DMs can decide and build an overarching campaign around
Though I have my own theory
Shoot
I think he’s ||Firan Zal’Honan, one of the Mist Walker NPCs. A. Because one of the gravestones in Azalin’s mausoleum belongs to his son, a man whose last name is Zal’Honan, and B. Because iirc that was his real name in prior editions lol||
Interesting 🧐
Plot Twist:
Azalin is just taking a nap in a crypt somewhere for a while
"I'm tired of your shit, Strahd! I'm gonna take a nap for a few Million years! When I get back, you better have paid YOUR side of the rent!"
Thats why they had been arguing all along, because Strahd is a bum and doesn't help Azalin pay rent for their secret apartment they go to when adventures aren't bothering them
Theres no way Frauhd would do his dishes
My extended theory is that ||AzalinRex discovered a way to create a mortal version of himself with a modified Clone spell. Because he returned in a form that the Dark Powers didn’t recognize him in, he was able to become a Mist Walker and essentially travel through Ravenloft freely.||
That's actually genius
I mean... one high level cleric could end 100s of zombies right? With destroy undead.
Potentially
What if the dark powers made him like a shadow sorcerer?
it depends on several factors: the cleric's level, the zombies' hit dice (HD), and the luck of the rolls
Shadow/fey touched feat mentioned?
All roads lead to shadow touched
I do like fey touched
Is it true that a lot of villains keep dopplegangers by their side?
Idk if they are an elf then id assume they have touched themselves (please dont take this out of context)
I was gonna say, phrasing much
Not too sure but it’s a good way to buy some time with a meat shield
I mean if i was in their position i wouldnt mind much but it depends
It just happens that villains killing people and doppelgangers taking the murdered's place aligns pretty well
But funny enough my recent character im playing arcane trickster/order of scribes is a magic detective who is fey/shadow touched
Do changelings come from dopplegangers?
Elves are far along enough to where they themselves aren't considered Fey.
They're Feytouched because they're originally from the Feywilds.
Shadow and Fey touched don't have anything to do with being touched by a creature, but by a realm
(Variant human stats who got turned into an elf
no they are different things
both are fey related but distinctly different species
Fey and Shadow touched are just lesser versions of actual planetouched (Genasi, Tieflings, Aasimar)
Yeah mine was just around enough potent magic that he got physically effected (visually and physically)
I'd love an infernal touched that gives you like a free hellish rebuke and some evocation magic
(Oddly not even the weirdest on the team) (genasi ranger who’s mount is her brother who got true polymorphed into a bear)
Hellish Rebuke, frankly, Stinks
it does which is why a free one would be worth it if you aren't using your reaction for anything elsew
like a backline wiz or something
Just choosing it over feytouched/shadowtouched might be iffy
Where do you look for this (gonna be my next feat)
i just made it up
Damn 😔
A wizard in the Backlines would still use their reactions for stuff?
Counterspell, Silvery Barbs and Defense Spells.
I don't think you'd catch one using hellish rebuke instead of another option
A free scorching ray wouldnt be bad
Arcane trickster on the other hand, id use it constantly (if i could)
or maybe some of the illrigger spells
Hellish Rebuke is okay on paper, but it's pretty much taking damage to do damage that doesn't amount anywhere to the damage you've taken.
Fair but reaction wasted sadly
Since Hellish Rebuke triggers when you're hit
Maybe darkness spell?
Darkness is okay for forcing movement, honestly, if they can't see you, they can't attack you (or at least have a hard time trying)
Divine touched with divine smite?
Imagine rogues with divine smite, as a rogue hard pass
It adds to your spell list so you can use it with your spell slots
materializes
Arcane tricksters are frothing at the mouth for the number of die rolls (im one of them)
I mean, the other touched spells give you a 2nd level spell free cast so i don't think it'd be that broken, right?
Disintergrate
:0
You’re a Phoenix you’ll be fine
theyre a pheonix they rise from ashes cmon now
ik ik
Wish back into existence
i am alive
call marut
phoenix* :3
are phoenixes considered beasts? or ar ethey elementals im curious
i never really thought about that ngl
Perish!
Throws you into the Sphere of Annihilation
theyre elementals
regenerates (doctor who reference)
Elemental monstrositys
Pheonixes are just considered Elementals
*phoenix
its Phoenix for goodness sake
I think i found a home brew one
🥹
Idk why the o is silent
true
I say ponix (like the yugioh card)
its not pheonix 💔
call lightning
Phoenix, Zaratan, Elder tempest and Leviathan, while all being giant beasts made of Elements.. are all Giant Elementals..
Because it wouldn't make sense for them to be beasts because they AREN'T actually animals, they're wholly made of their Elements
i cast fireball 
Yea solid element taken form
Leviathans are elementals?
ooh
and im a bird
Elder Tempest is... a Wind Serpent Dragon Bird thing
I would have considered them giant sea snake monstrosities
Leviathans are completely made of water in D&D lol
thats moreso a couatl
Oddly a coatl is a type of dragon
celestial actually
Hi a bird, I’m Nugget
pecks
You're SMELLY.
Deflect Attack
owh-
Nah. I’m Nugget. Never met this Smelly fellow
you just replied to them :D
Yeah just looked at the tempest yeah not a coutl, its a snake made of air with wings all around it
No, I'm Tokii, Lord of Goofy
You don’t slander the Lord of Goofy like that!
tapes my beak shut
one more rp action in discord chat and you will be rolling for success
e-
Yeah this ain’t a roleplay server
yessir/ma’am :/
it also aint a dad joke server yet here we are
dad jokes are a very important part of dnd
so is roleplay
This is a serious not delirious server who serves nothing but the truth of dungeons deogens and monstrous creatures
And dice
contemplating whether i should disappear 🤔
i eat dice :^
And playing of the roles that is of ones characters
Friends.
I hunger.
Heros feast?
To kick Strahds ass tonight, can I get a HELL YEAH?
Heavens no!
hes an alright dude just misunderstood maybe give him a hug
You've ruined the mood.
such violent behaviour in here
I apologize
Oh, my kind Celestial Warlock fella would indeed feel Sympathy for Strahd
Can we get a hell yeah
Sounds like you could use something to tide you over? Could I interest you in some Umbertea?
Helll yeahhh
Are you saying this because my Warlock is a Drow?
i shall now poof
and rise anew from the ashes
lmao the book calls her that and we cant say it
Its a fair rule they wanna keep it pg and i thought i censured it enough (sorry mods)
I find it funny how we keep avoiding menzo in my Tuesday game
Menzobaranza?
Can a creature without a brain be prayed on by an intellect devourer?
We'll, Sovis isn't ready to go back yet lmao
Like something insectoid
They'd probably ignore them unless attacked
exploring menzoberranzan is like walking around chicago in nothing but a bright shiny vest
They can think their for they are so yes
why wouldnt they?
Cause irl insects don’t. They’re whole body is like a brain basically as I understand it
If you're talking about Thri-Kreen, they definetly do have brains
They have a central brain so they can “think” but not complexly, bigger brain more thought
So do Umberhulks
brains
Most creatures have enough int to be prey for illithids tbh
Oh! Thats what my original Thri-Kreen Character idea was...
A Gloomstalker Umberhulk lol
So it’s a matter of int stat rather than biological limitations?
If were talking ilithids if you got enough to feed a tadpole and a body with a soul you meet the requirements
Correct (more intelligent the host the stronger the ilithid)
What about an elemental
Iirc i always played it as illithids consuming nuerons or any type of information transfer cells
No brain minus genasi
Intellect Devourers, despite being whole brains, only have a 12 in int lol
Which isn't bad, it's just funny
Theres not really any elemental species to play other than genasi
Well he said elemental so idk if he meant race to play or creature
Officially supported that is
They have a 20 in Charisma?! (Intellect Devourers)
Their personality is that of the hive mind and thus the personality of the elder brain
That makes way too much sense
True, that makes sense, ifs the Force of Prescence of the hivemind
They might just not be made for thinking
That and they are the brains of thinking creatures no? So they would usually have around at least 10 int since thats the average
Does the commoner have 10 in every stat?
Some run it like that yea
Brains are dense
So usually adventurers will have at least 1 below average stat?
the statblock is basically the average for what it is
Usually
the average commoner is normal across the board
cause in dnd worlds theyre always getting massacred so the gods have to mass print them off the assembly line so for time crunch they makeem all average
You see, I don't think they're ACTUAL brains though, they're beings that LOOK like brains and can take over bodies while acting like one
But in the creature text it mentions its a creature that LOOKS like one
Fun fact their hit die is usually a d8
Its made from the thinking creatures brain though
Theres a whole ritual the weirdos do
they parasite (is that a verb?) a person's brain
i thought intellect devourers were born from a person's brain
They are the ritual facilitates that
Of course they are bursting with personality
in all seriousness charisma is probably just their casting stat
funny its not intelligence though
I can kinda understand a bit?
Intellect devourers are also cr 2 funnily enough despite them easily being able to one shot you
intellect devourers are cute lowkey
Not as bad as shadows being 1/4 but still
US did a lot of work to make them cute.
Wait where did you get this? I’m seeing a 10 in charisma
little brain kitty
Thats exactly who i was thinking of lmbo. even before us takes the cat form it just reminded me of a cute lil kitty
Wait what? Was I deceived?!
Both 2014 and 2025 have 10 as their charisma
Can intellect devourers fit inside tiny heads/bodies?
Ah, no, I read it wrong lmao
They are more like badgers if you’re going by the actual 5e statblock
Angry little freaks
owlbears are also weirdly cat coded
Forget the fact that they're actually also known as Brain Dogs..
THEY'RE DOGS, Omegon! >:[ /silly
2025 introducing a flying Owlbear stat block is very funny
intellect devourers are cat coded and nobody is telling me otherwise
well not anymore, they are kitties now thanks to BG3
Well BG3 is dumb and stupid and wrong
let it all out lol
no bg3 is based and correct. any small cute deadly creature is cat coded inherently
Lmao
tell us how you really feel
I hate Bg3 :p
tragic.
Considering astarion has his own officially supported book i can only assume the events are canon lmao
Counterspell
Calm emotions!
hats off to all the poor dms who are gonna try to play astarion and get laughed out of the room
astarion is also cat coded. actually, vampires in general are cat coded. i will not elaborate.
Regardless its a good thing since that means that intellect devourers enjoy lavender scents and deep tissue massages
Owls are also cats
"Intellect devourers were psionic aberrations that took the form of walking brains. They were servants of the mind flayers and were one of the most dreaded threats of the Underdark, with their power to consume intelligence and possess host bodies.They were also known as brain-dogs and rochnon"
thats persons wrong im afraid
They're dogs, perish!
brainkitty > braindog
just bc wotc was too cowardly to call them brain kitties doesnt mean that i dont know the truth
just say it out loud
Despite having a Tabaxi character, I dislike cats.
counterspell
I don't hate them, I'm just not a cat person lol
thats fair lol im just joking around
I’m playing a mute tabaxi monk/warlock in one of my games
Though, I am a cat PERSON
i do think intellect devourers are cat coded though
I think you're wrong.
nah im correct
I think I like them more as dog-coded because everything else is already cat-coded and I want evil little brain dogs
Give DnD Players enough time, they will call anything cat coded.
in my experience 90% of fictional animals are dog coded
You also forget that
Unlike Cats..
Intellect Devourers are LOYAL to their illithids.
So, Brain Dog
Venger? Cat coded. Tiamat? Cat coded. Asmodeus? Cat coded.
cats are also loyal
mystra is cat coded
Cats feign loyalty to trick us into loving them
Not sure on Venger and Asmodeus.
But Tiamat as a cat makes a lot of sense.
Cats feign loyalty for food.
unironically i could see tiamat as a cat
Helm is Dog-Coded
Bahamut is Dog-Coded
Ilmater is Dog-Coded (imo)
Because all are best boys
There is Dog Loyalty
There is friend loyalty
There is Game of Thrones Character Loyalty.
And then 80 steps further away is Cat Loyalty
Ah my favorite cats
yall have never had a cat and it shows
Instead of likening things to animals, I prefer the pineapple / banana scale.
I have 3 of them lmao
Lord Kas back at it with the Sass 🧐 /joking
I am catless for the first time in my life. We got parakeets instead. Turns out... I'm also a bird person?
What's that?
Ilmater is something more fragile, like a hamster or a guinea pig
Rabbit.
Ilmater?
The one who endures? Fragile?
Actually no, other way around
I am here to deliver the sas for kas
He’s a turtle
im mostly joking but in all seriousness cats can absolutely be loyal and some of them are super clingy
Ilmaters Clerics are all about Endurance and so is he, they endure for the sake of others smh.
my cat wakes me up every morning at 1 am and demands cuddles
Strahd is pineapple and Tasha is banana
Does that make sense?
Calling Ilmater fragile is crazy smh..
ilmater is the opposite of fragile his whole thing is endurance
That's literally what I just said!
He's Turtle-Coded
He still projects "rabbit" like vibes, though.
I see, i think i get it
im a dnd player i dont read
i mean rabbits are actually super tough so that makes sense
Hmm, I suppose, but I will not let anyone call my main man ilmater Fragile smh.
Truer words never spoken
I for one actually liked reading the phb and dmg
same
I spent an afternoon reading the humblewood book and didnt realize i wasted like 5 hours doing so
i dont get the people who are like "i wanna play dnd but i dont wanna read the phb!!11" like bro what?
they act like its like reading a boring math textbook or something. its SO fun
When is humblewood vol 2 coming out mannn i wanna play it so bad
the monster manuals alone are SO fun
The one that honestly gets me is being intimidated by reading a book. I am not going to be exclusatory. I just don't get it. Being intimidated by a book.
yeah same. and whenever i talk about it people accuse me of being elitist or something and its like...its like saying you're intimidated by using a keyboard to play a video game
Its definitely not something someone would just sit down and read i get it but still if you wanna play dnd at least skim it
idk i sit down and read phb
TBF I also don't get it when my youger cousins would literally rather never eat pizza than call the pizza place. I just don't get it.
i'd imagine a not insignificant number of people go into D&D expecting it's mostly just playing pretend/improv/larp with dice
Thats more common than you would think lmao i would never touch a controller to play a video game i just cant do it
fair but usually those people dont play video games
its not limited to dnd though. i used to make online roleplays and the number of people who would just refuse to read the, at most, one microsoft page long rules was weird
Vecna when hes forced to use a keyboard instead of a controller:

One of my my most hated and loved abilities for any subclass is the ability to use another of the 6 main stats as another one of another (fey ranger) as i love characters who have a weakness to them even though they are the heros of the world
ngl i find controllers annoying.i can tolerate the switch controller but thats about it
Yeah, I have a West marches server and we have a formatted rule book with FAQs and stuff. It is like 8 pages of formatted text with pictures and larger fonts. Maybe 500 words.
I was told by someone to slim it down because potential players would not read all that.
My response was that if they lack the willpower to read 8 pages I don't want them anyway.
Yeah i dont feel like reading harrypotter rn
honestly use that as a way to weed out people
bruh harry potter isnt even hard to read
That we did. I never expect a new player to have read the PHB or anything cover to cover, or even know their character right away. But after session one. Bucko has home work.
I'm pretty sure if you read the abilities of even 2/3 classes, races and backgrounds it'd be more then 500 words
i remember reading the new dmg from cover to cover, that was a undertaking
I never expect a player to have ever read any book cover to cover. I do expect them to have read the options they are employing in the game end to end.
I have been told this is somehow unreasonable
I think not reading also essentially blocks off all the caster classes, as you'll need to read through a bunch of spells to really play them
Question... Purely from basic PHB classes and races and rules
What race and multiclass combo would make the true "Jack of all trades, master of none." type character?
i can understand new players forgetting things tbf especially with like spell lists. but thats different from just not reading
yeah a lot of people just wont read at all
Human bard/ranger maybe?
hmm. human bard/ranger
Nothing
Literally Bard and Rogue themselves as classes are literally that
omg twins
From my understanding the Race should be Halfling for the Halfling Luck.
Then I personally think Bard, Artificer, Fighter combo would work.
Bards, Rangers, Artificers and Rogues are all Jack of all Trade classes
Rogue is only that way with skills, however
Jack of no trades?
Rogue is the true martial jack of all trades, bard is the true spellcaster jack of all trades
And Ranger and Artificer are the half-caster jack of all trades
Yes
So everyone except paladin?
I’d say fit artificers and rangers its more subclass dependent though
Yeah, Paladins moreso have a niche and aren't good at variety
They’re very good at what they do tho
Combat
Bard is half caster though right? Now I think about it for the Jack of all trades combo you'd want the caster one, half caster one and the full martial one all at once
and aura farming
Alrighty
Paladin overall is a good class, they're just not a skill-based individual
Bards are a full casted
Bards a full caster
Feywanderer ranger is probably the most jack of all trades
Really? Damn... I never play Bard. I usually play Tiefling Paladin.
I rarely get to the multiclass area before my characters die though
I have a planned multiclass though.
Paladin, Rouge and Artificer.
Essentially making me Batman.
In theory at least
That is MAD as hell…
Doesn't this require 13 str, cha, dex and int?
Uh..
I'm gonna level
It's probably not going to be good at all or feel good to play either
I usually have those 3 as my highest 3 anyway.
Why not just Rogue Artificer?
There's 4 i think
I usually play Tiefling Paladin that's why.
... okay? But...
Batman is incredibly difficult to replicate in dnd
That doesn't explain anything lol
You’d prob need near max stats in every single stat
Not really?
Just be a Monk, Rogue or even a Fighter
Yes I'm an idiot.
I usually like playing Space Marine height (8'1"+) characters so DEX is usually the lowest.
Sorry, meant stats wise, he’s kind of insane for what he is
You need dex for rogue
That'd be the last class I go into then. I'd get enough extra stat buffs from levels of the other 2 first.
Probably a monk+rogue for expertise?
I love point buy by the way.
Could play it as their keen reflexes, impressive balance and swift reaction speed.
Definitely need Rouge and Artificer if you want him to be sneaky and making his own gadgets.
Batman is also kinda antithetical to DnD He is usually a loner style hero. So he has to be able to do it all. DnD is not that. It is all about having strengths and weaknesses. And having those weaknesses balanced out by the party.
batman is an artificer
Amusingly the closest “loner” type class is Ranger. Batman = Ranger is what I’m hearing
He'd have to have 20 in all stats
Nah he pays people to make his gadgets.
Not anymore... Remember he has the Batfam. I am a huge comics nerd if you couldn't already tell
hes a rogue cosplaying as an artificer
That changes nothing tbh
The Fox family specifically
There's also the justice league
True... But he is more of a part timer and a share holder type figure there
Functionally how much self dependent Batman is rarely ever changes no matter how many side kicks or teammates he has.
Tbh isn't everyone from the batfamily some kind of rogue/monk mix with high int, cha and wis?
Jason would have some sort of Oathbreaker adjacent thing
I can see Jason as a Fighter or Barbarian tbh
Plus as of 2024 both have a ton of skill versatility to working like Batman characters too.
I see Paladin as more flavour for him being a crusader type character
Nah you don’t need a magic oath to make a crusade against something.
Fair
Also Paladins aren’t crusaders.
Gulp.
Huh!? I have only ever seen them played like that
They don’t even have to be connected to Gods or Religion fun fact
Ranger and Paladin are the “does their job so well divine magic gives a thumbs up”
Paladins were a real thing, and they weren't crusaders.
STOP BREAKING MY PRECONCEIVED IDEAS ABOUT MY FAVOURITE CLASS!!!!! /j
Knights of Charlemagne iirc?
I know... It annoys me that it was like this too
Yes they were your stereotypical Chavalric Knight
I didn't ask for your correction.
With how modern stuff of Jason makes him a brute and intimidation focused (and obviously being very angry) I can see Barbarian. That “primal power” could also be a lazarus pit thing.
I love Barbarian in BG3
Barbarian is good in every place
He is the most (understandably) angry out of the Batman family
Yeah I see it. Barbarian, Rouge combo?
What's the difference between bg3 and dnd barb?
No clue
Possibly but likely unneeded
Rogue*
I see
Yes.
I haven’t played DnD other than BG3 so I wasn’t sure if there was a difference
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Rage now adds to things like Stealth, intimidation, etc now
Fair enough.
HUH!!!!???? When did Barbarians become Batman on their own?
I want to be Batman as my PC
Fighters can now use their extra uses of 2nd wind for skill checks now too.
I think One Piece would make a fantastic DnD campaign
I named my one and only Imperium Maledictum character Alfraedus Pennywharf...
That is an incredible name
I will name my first child that
What are the best charisma races?
Tiefling
So what’s the difference between a Sorcerer and a Wizard
Yes. There were twelve of them. Really only noticeable for their mention in the song of Roland, written between 1050 and 1115. Charlemagne himself having reigned during the 9th century.
And yeah, not crusaders, quite the opposite. Paladins mostly appear in stories about the Umayyad invasion of Gaul, where they are defending against invasion rather than invading.
Of course the narrative of the paladins have been written during the crusades, so they served a certain political purpose.
Any
Sorcerers are born with magic, wizards learn theirs
Oh I see
I mean for 2014
Still any.
I don’t know why but I really hate the term wizards so I don’t think I’ll ever be one anyway
Tasha’s lets you change the ability scores as does Monsters of the Multiverse.
I have an idea about what IRL languages would be the main racial D&D languages of the famous races.
Infernal - Italian
Common - English
Dwarvish - Gaelic/Welsh
Draconic - Spanish
Gnomish - Russian
Halfling - Japanese
Orcish - Afrikaans
Elvish - French
How accurate do you think it is?
Ohh, oki, thanks!
Tasha’s lets you change racial scores, but MotM races don’t start with racial ASI at all
In terms of Mechancis a Sorcerer can manipulate how spells work.
Wizards research and get access to way more spells at once.
Some of those links and languages would produce stereotypes real fast
Sorcerers have innate magic that is latent at the start but “unlocks” as they progress. Wizards learn their magic through studies.
True... But can we all agree with Elvish being French?
Oh so Sorcerer is like way cooler
Sorcerer is more innate not born with.
No
Huh? Why?
That’s rude
Oh yeah there's that
Why the french hate?
Yikes
I was more thinking Canadian French for Elves.
Big yikes
Chondathan in Faerûn is similar in french not in its sound of grammar but that it has an Italic base and has spread very far.
I love the concept of languages and how best to use it.
I don’t know much dnd lore about the races
In my opinion at least
I just like elves
Druidic for Druids.
Thieves Cant for Rogues.
i can confirm that im an elf
Would you say that Elves are essentially Canadians?
Oh hello.
No in most settings, elves are aliens from another plane of existence.
I know nothing about the lore.
Oh fr?
I think comparing our IRL cultures and people to fantasy races as a type culture might be a bit iffy.
Yeah probably
Yeah, especially if you’re relying on stereotypes
getting more specific with it: moon elves are ppl from ontario, wood elves are bc, sun elves are alberta, drow are quebec, wild eleves are the other two prairie provinces, and sea elves are maritimes
I was more thinking about the Elves committing various unforgivable war crimes constantly.
Elves are a race after all, so they can be part of any culture.
You know, there's this guy. His name was John Ronald Reuel something. He wrote a few fantasy books, not very interesting stuff. But he was a language nerd who made languages for fun. He made two perfectly functional elven languages
That’s a lot of elves
i dont disagree but lets not pretend like all these races werent based on real world cultures tbh
also, if you just want random non canon elvish words or names, id recommend going with welsh
I know about Tolkien... I just can't be arsed learning those.
Are you telling me you know italien, gaelic, welsh, spanish, russian, japanese, afrikaan and french?
Is that the Lord of the rings author
(without revealing my actual location im a sea elf going by my own sorting)
I see it actually... Scots Gaelic for the Dwarves?
I know every language in the world
Yes. That was the joke.
A pirate elf
that also works. and i think irish fits halflings. i usually use latin for infernal
Oh… sorry…
I know some Welsh. I don't know the rest.
people from rural areas around here sound like pirates anyways tbh
Wanna know what the Welsh word for a microwave is?
Then is there a reason you wouldn't use the Tolkien languages? Specifically for orcish, dwarvish and elvish?
I love pirates
bc its not tolkien
Well yeah. Nothing is Tolkien, he's dead.
I kinda forgot about the existence of them. I'm not into Tolkien.
Because I no no wanna
i think im into tolkien and then i talk to actual tolkien nerds and feel like a dumb dumb
I have never read or watched LOTR unfortunately
Nerds live for making other people feel like dumb dumbs, it's not just you
I have never read the books. I have watched the films
I hate ppl like that
@hot marlin?
Tbh the books aren’t too long.
i read the books a decade ago
Only around 1200 pages
It is a very interesting word in Welsh for microwave.
They’re mostly dense
Yeah but I am not good at reading older books because of the way they write is weird to me
The welsh word for microwave is meicrodon. That's what welsh people call it.
they arent that long but youll feel like its been an eternity when he goes on the tenth 20 page side discussion about elf cuisine or whatever
Now, people who don't actually know welsh mindlessly repeat the joke that it's "popty-ping".
ive never heard that joke before but im not even sure why thats supposed to be funny tbh
Is LOTR just worldbuilding-slop?
Folk, we're getting a lil off target
I mean its not bad world building at all. its just...a lot
Slop has some wildly negative connotations
Popidiping actually. Or at least that's the most common slang term and generally used word for it. I didn't know what the actual direct translation for it.
I know it’s a joke
I know this because I have friends and family from Wales or brought up in Wales
Please refocus back to D&D and try and avoid any worldbuilding that builds off stereotypes that can be harmful to real people, 'joking' or not, which the 'What language/accent/people are (Fantasy race)' plays into.
Okidoke. You're da boss, boss
See, this is why I've decided to only use either dead languages or Tolkien languages.
I just describe how the languages sound like… non-verbally
I probably should do that too. Anyway... Moving on... Favoured race/class combo?
Dwarvish is harsh and guttural, elvish and fey tend to be more lyrical and light, infernal sounds sinister, etc
See, people say that but... To me, no language sounds "harsh". Only certain speakers sound harsh.
for elf characters specifically i go with canon elvish words when i can. if not i go with welsh (ideally older forms of welsh. thats just for names though
(Sahuagin) Tiefling Light Cleric
Like, there's the stereotype that "german sounds angry", but that comes from people whose main exposure to german is WW2 movies.
by "harsh" what people usually actually mean is that is has a lot of sounds that use the throat. i do agree though that its largely based on stereotypes
Oh so you have names like Emrys ap Gwledigion or something like that?
Languages don't sound harsh, light, lyrical or anything like that. Only speakers do.
i dont go that far with it lol
Setting Specific Regional Languages >>>>>> Species Languages
i always wondered what english sounds like to non english speakers
And my favourite personal rule: "There is no such thing as common"
Why not? That's kinda what I do...
English sounds like English to non English speakers
i dont think that far in terms of like, middle names and last names, at least not at first.
There's a song around that idea
Emrys is the first name. ap Gwledigion means "Son of Rulers".
A man from Tethyr would not call him Human, he would call himself Tethyrian. A man from Thay would be Mulani. A woman from Sespech would be Chondathan.
I (would like to) treat common as the 'trade language'. Shifts from region to region, but is a simpler language mostly used for basic communcation and trade.
In reality- ... aahh everyone's speaking the same language until it's important for the story that players not understand what is being said >.>
i like qualith and tir su but there doesnt seem to be as much resources for those as other languages : [
yeah this also applies to elves and other races. like, elves think of themselves as moon elves or whatever, not just generic "elf"
That's actually clever. Like Aesperanto or whatever it's called?
For me it's simpler. There is no trade language, there is no common. The common on your character sheet? If we're playing in the Sword Coast, that's Illuskan.
Yeah I prefer Common as it has been presented in the realms. A trade Language that is No ones first tongue, and it is not a complete language at that.
The sigil story in the new books is kinda an eye roll for me
I’m surprised nobody had mentioned the game Dialect yet. For those who really like this idea, I recommend looking it up! It’s not D&D of course but similar to other TTRPFs, you can use it to make, well, dialects in your games feel so much more impactful and deep.
Oh deffo sounds like Aesperanto now you say that
That sigil story is such nonsense that I needed to put down the book for ten minutes. It got me violently angry
That's basically it.
I'll throw a bonus someone's way for persuasion and the like if they talk to the orcs in orcish.
Or obnoxious NPCs will talk smack about the bard in the language that the bard can't speak when I don't feel like dealing with Mr "I can't roll below 28 in persuasion" for the odd encounter.
It really felt like "Well everyone in the whole world speaks English!" As if that is not a thing because of the Advent of trade and technology in the last half century.
There doesn't need to be a multiversal common.
Personally I like the First World version instead of the Sigil origin.
This is one thing they've done right in Shadow of the Dragon Queen and the new FR books imo. Introducing regional languages instead of just common being the language everybody is guaranteed to speak.
hi
The idea is all these languages and races etc came from the First world, when it shattered into multiple worlds everyone still has these similarities in races, language, magic, etc.
If interested in looking into the idea more 'Lingua Franca': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca
Elvish persevered somehow from the first world when English hasn't survived 500 years in a constant state
My favourite thing to do for homebrew languages is to get the alphabet of one language and superimpose that onto the words and grammar rules of another. My current one is Polish words and grammar with the Welsh alphabet.
I don't know if this is offensive but it's less work than making it from scratch and lets me use it on keyboards.
Most of the first world stuff isn't my cup of tea either. Really. I get why it exists but its okay to have the settings be a tiny bit more independent. There does not need to be a universal answer to the origin of things.
Yep. There have been humans on Toril for thousands of years. Even if they did come from Sigil and spoke the same language as the Sigilites (which they didn't), the languages would have evolved to be completely unintelligible.
Well that's why I like the First World as an in-world myth. Which is how it's presented.
Mainly with First world it’s basically Multiverse stuff again. The “it’s you in an alternate universe!”
It's not real, it's just what dragons tend to believe is real
English from six centuries ago is completely impossible to understand without actual studies into its grammar and rules
It's looking like I need to actually look at the D&D lore because this all sounds AWESOME!!!!
OK so, for elvish, since elf lore is that they reincarnate, it's probably the only language where they have a good excuse for it having changed minimally.
Not the channel to ask that. #find-a-game is where you go.
sorry
My Paladins all worship the Omnisiah.
their was that strange bit of old dnd lore that not canon anymore of people from earth ended up in faurn and that being the source of gods like thor and set
also fox being imported from france for some reason
I'm a fledgling D&D and W40k nerd at once if you couldn't already tell from this statement
The connections to Earth is because that's what the term forgotten Realms means.
It was a realm that was connected to Earth, but the portals and links began to deteriorate over time, meaning they became Forgotten Realms
to be honest i kind of love the foxes are from france lore cause its fun in a slighty silly sort of way
elminster loves Dr Pepper btw
Professor Peppy>
SO... Technically Paladins worshipping the God-Emperor is plausible?
The god Emperor is not real to our Earth.
yeah sometimes the most fun you can have is when the dm and players make up some silly lore like that
Tbh people from Earth in D&D are in other places. Like the kids from the 1980s D&D cartoon were from Earth
And a few novels I think.
ah ok so i guess thats still sort of canon then
Yeah but stories from the game filtering through and almost becoming a real god or something. Is that possible?
Same logic could apply to the God-Emperor being a possibility of a god... Since Warhammer and D&D were around at roughly the same time period.
Yep the Mulhorandi, and Untherans Are likely descendants from Egyptian and Mesopotamian peoples from earth Stolen from their Homeland by the most powerful race of humans to ever exist on Toril.
a bunch of kuo toa finding a Warhammer 40k book and worshipping the god emperor
They were so powerful that the gods of those pantheons had to come to Toril. And fight them. And even then it was still a war.
Iirc, Tiamet was originally a goddess from earth in the original lore
I don't what that race is but that sounds hilarious
Gilgeam is Gilgamesh
theyre a race of fish people that pick random things to be their gods
Well Tiamat is from an actual old religion last I checked.
Bahamut too.
Race with a big psychic footprint, has the ability to alter reality by consensus
Ok... That's hilarious
Yeah they're both from Mesopotamia. Along with Gilgamesh. Which makes sense why gilgeam hates dragon so much
that’s a better explanation than I gave tbh
So... Orkz?
Sort of, but fantasy fish orks
WoD, it has a lot of useful verbiage tools for D&D
I need to try out wod
I mean the W40k Orkz which you essentially just described perfectly.
Especially the Weird Boyz
Well yes, but actually, no. The kuo toa differ in function because it's heavily tied to worship as opposed to pure consensus
You know, come to think of it. One of these species languages that I really did not care for. Is the fact that tieflings know infernal right out of the bat.
Especially since there has been this distancing of any sort of untowardness in their blood or their soul. But they just start learning. Literally the devil's speech out of nowhere. That's suspicious.
That and the orks need huge amounts of waagh energy to make the consensus magic happen even a little
That's the idea
Wait, the Imaskari are really more powerful than the Netherese? I thought it was about equal.
Cuz, if purple Orks aren't the stealfiest, then why 'ave yer nevah seen a purple Ork.
That's my favourite meme
They're described as a race always under suspicion by the ill informed
No it's not, it's not how gods work. You can't just take a fictional being and turn it into a god by believing in it hard enough. Unless you're a kuo-toa. And even then
Them just automatically knowing that tongue seems like a vestigial thing is what I'm saying. If there was no tiefling nation in most worlds and they really shouldn't get a language considering that they can be born of nearly any species
Huh... That's actually kinda cool
Aaw... Sadge
I feel like telepathy would be more thematic to a degree
Moreover, Elminster visited earth in the 80s when it was the middle of the 14th century in Toril. It's now the end of the 15th century in Toril, more than a century later.
This means that present-day Toril takes place in 2130.
So... Most likely, in present canon, earth is an irradiated wasteland.
i would imagine time doesnt flow equal between worlds
Hello chat
To be fair, the Realms did sort of March on close to real time and then the The fandom gathered around as the designers of Dungeons& Dragons 4th edition prepared to do something demonstrably stupid.
that message makes me remember that thing i heard about how chat seem to be becoming the new collective noun for a group of people
Hang around a group of 12 to 17-year-olds and you'll hear it a lot
you walk into a courtroom and the lawyer is like “listen chat…”
Assuming the Time ratio between D&D and Toril is 1:1.
Places like the Astral Sea and Feywild do show time can be different after all.
i wonder how maybe people have done the warlock is live scrying to their parton
Also technically IRL too as speed seems to effect time.
The fae wild is different
When I'm in a ruining a long established IP contest and my opponent is the 4e Forgotten Realms design team
FR lore is too complicated.
Proceeds to make it even more complicated. And then immediately backtracks making it even further complicated.
You can see evidence of this when you look at the the pantheons and how some of them are aspects of other gods and then they're back to being themselves. Or this God was actually that got into skies but actually no he wasn't.
Whole thing was a mess
Honestly it was quite the design idea
Ruin something then ruin it further, making the creator and all of its lovers leave or almost leave it entirely
It's a surprise it didn't work out.
Here's my hot take. I don't hate the spell plague. I honestly think that's a really cool and neat idea. A neat world event for the Realms. Perfect for signifying the transition from one Edition to another. Would have been awesome to be a player or a dungeon master to play during those events.
What was stupid was the 100-year time skip.
Hey! Here's this awesome world shattering event.
Also it's been over for 90 years
Pretty sure all magic not functioning correctly/at all would cause issues with anyone wanting to play a spellcaster
Drizzt watching his future wife rapidly age and die cause a group of gods propelled the world 100 years because they were bored
I'm sure they could easily figure something out. The spell plague itself only lasted 10 years. It was over by 1395 DR.
I mean you can still choose to run games during that time after the ten years perfectly fine
In fact the time skip happening is a good thing because it means they’ve already roughly established how various lands and factions recovered and you can use that as your guide point
People seem to think they're streamers / have an audience instead of being in a room with peers
That time skip made a lot of FR contributors very pissed off and almost deepsixed FRs longest running book series
And I have. What I'm saying is that skipping to 1479 was a Galaxy brain decision. That in retrospect was not a very good one considering the immediately backpedaled.
But the thing is is that the 4th edition guide doesn't really State how the lands have recovered. Most of them are still reeling 90 years later.
If im a hexblade warlock with agonizing blast eldritch blast and hex
and my charisma modifer is +5
would that be 1d10+5(agonizing blast)+5(hexblade curse) +1d6
where its basically 1d10+10 + 1d6 per beam
I mean I can’t speak on behalf of investors and creators im just talking in regards to using the material as a player/dm
The healing and reclamation came in 5th edition with the advent of the sundering.
Hexblade curse is proficiency bonus not charisma mod
Ye a 100 year time skip where nothing happened just cause the designers were bored wasn't the greatest idea.
According to Salvatore. The only time he's ever seen Ed cry about the Realms.
Because he was just informed and the writers were told to figure it out.
Oh they did that over Ed’s head. Ok yea that feels ultra rude and disrespectful
It's one of the reasons why he and Wizards of the Coast don't talk anymore
Im nit entirely clear on what proficiency bonus is?
could you clarify please
Wasn’t aware there had been a falling out
Your proficiency bonus is your proficiency bonus. It’s listed on the class tables and it a bonus based on your level
The design team of 4th edition and 5th edition. Were very antagonistic towards Greenwood. To the point where I was personally shocked that his name was mentioned in the new FR guides at all.
A sign of better things to come I think
Why on earth would you want to be antagonistic to the guy the literally created the world for your game
Cause they were bored (I don't think there's any justifiable reason. More likely they thought they do it better.)
i finally finished putting all the cultists in the cultist base
it took so long T_T
For a very long time, Ed was still seen as an authority over the Realms by the fans, even though he's had no legal authority over it since 1985. Wizards of the coast wanted to change how the setting was presented going into 4th edition. To fit in better lines with their design ideology for the Edition as a whole. This was incongruent with the Realms. And so they forced it. Without discussion.
Sounds about right for a corporate call
They then asked him and the other authors to fix it. Less than 3 years later. Which is where the sundering novels came from
I sure hope they extorted those checks
Once the new Edition was out. And Ed's last book contract was fulfilled in 2016/2017. They dropped them
They only kept Salvatore because his books sell like hotcakes but even he had to go find his own personal publisher outside of D&D.
And only reason he still makes Drizzt is he loves it
D&D character idea a druid that does not wild shape but has animal speech and draws his magic from the planet meaning he can use earth and plant life
The modern teams seem to appreciate Greenwood's work. Which I appreciate considering that he has been a lifeblood to the community and an ally far longer than any corporation has.
But I still think it's going to be a long time before you see his name as a consultant in one of the books like you do with Keith Baker.
I found it, ty
so if my proficiency bonus is +3
1d10+8 + 1d6 per beam?
Correct
And as much as I would love to see that, I wouldn't really blame him if he decided to stay on the DMs Guild and his little patreon corner
Ye the current teams seem to be trying to deal with the damage the 4e to early 2020s teams did in that regard
Now considering that the majority of that team is gone. I think it will start to self-heal.
Like them putting the Abominable Vaults pf2e AP 5e conversion on DnD beyond with a paizo partnership.
I mean that was a long time when Wizards of the Coast didn't go to conventions like at all
If you're going to convert a PF campaign, why Abomination Vault btw?
I think they did that one themselves. Wizards of the Coast didn't do it
Yeah, but it's a bit of a weird choice.
Paizo DiD a lot of their campaigns for both 2e and 5e
Didn't we get a MtG expansion?
We've gotten four of those
I mean, I like abomination vault.
Ravinica
Yeah a few APs have 5e conversions by Paizo
hello 🙂
I imagine over time theyll probably add the other conversions to ddb
Theros, Strixhaven, Ravnica, and Lorewyn
I'm just waiting for the Final Fantasy crossover
Will go strong
Huh, more than I thought


