dnd-discussion

[glass granite]

I prefer changeling bard

Good taste, friend!

[olive wasp]

Oh I’m just speaking from my experience

Stealing, acting like someone else, just messing around

[glass granite]

Hi just speaking from experience, I’m Nugget!

[olive wasp]

My rogue also had expertise for performance

[humble cairn]

Sounds like a gimmick that will get tiresome, since the value of money is determined by the DM, but if being a con artist is your concept that could be fun.

[olive wasp]

Ice em 🫵👁️👁️

[severe rampart]

My initial plan was to use my performance to turn into a dead relative of a senile noble, and tricking him into writing my name into the will, and then kill him

[humble cairn]

I feel like "I have fleeced people of valuable by pretending to be important figures" is a neat backstory thing, but I wouldn't expect to actually do it in game more than once or else risk being seen as an attention hog by the other players.

[glass granite]

Jokes on you, all are forced to undergo interrogation under zone of truth when receiving inheritance

[severe rampart]

Ah yeah, no worries, I'd only do it for desperate measures, wouldn't want my character to starve, or any of the party to

[glass granite]

Relegated to one word responses. There are lies in words, and daggers in men’s smiles.

[humble cairn]

Starvation is not among the high priority threats in most games, I would say.

[olive wasp]

Most campaigns I’ve been in barely keep track of rations or consumption of food

[severe rampart]

Ah crap, well I'd be screwed

my character has 7 strength

[glass granite]

Should probably add they’re also blindfolded, and restrained from 25 ft away

We’re very thorough

No blindsight/truesight casting subtle charms

[severe rampart]

Oh my god I don't have any resistance to charms or spells

[glass granite]

Throw in around 20 glyphs of warding too

[severe rampart]

I think that punishment would be fair for my character, but I do hope my party would save me

[empty thicket]

Rations arent expensive and making food with magic too

[glass granite]

Genuinely unsure how they would, tbh.

[severe rampart]

How would you say a lawful evil character would act?, methodically evil?

[glass granite]

Evil but staying with your own very strict (but questionable) ideals

[empty thicket]

Selfish, arrogant, wont care about the others

[glass granite]

Killing everyone, but sparing the women and children

[hot gate]

Id' say they stick to the letter of the law, but act to subvert and twist them to their needs.-

[severe rampart]

like read the fine print type thing?

[glass granite]

Manipulating others with contracts, maybe

[hot gate]

So effectively, be the sort of person that causes new laws to be made.

[glass granite]

“It’s not a war crime the first time” is a very disturbing character to embody, tbf

[severe rampart]

And they don't like when they're indebted to someone, yeah?

[hot gate]

That seems like a character trait rather than a alignment thing.

[humble cairn]

Q: I vaguely remember there being an alchemy lab as a special Bastion facility, but I can't find it? What book is it in?

[severe rampart]

got it, alright, so I gotta get in the mind of an evil person, thanks

[hot gate]

Perhaps you mean the Laboratory? In the DMG

[humble cairn]

Ahh ... hmm, that doesn't seem to be it. Okay I was actualy trying to find something that officially lists Truth Serum as a craftable.

[hot gate]

Ah! The Greenhouse then. Also DMG.

[humble cairn]

Ahh, thank you! I would not have guessed Greenhouse.

[languid ingot]

next time im in a oneshot im going to play a kenku because i think playing a kenku would be fun but not in a full length campaign

[humble cairn]

Kenku don't have to all speak in mimicry now.

[languid ingot]

yeah but its funnier that way,

[reef tundra]

Agreed

[languid ingot]

Without the full mimicry gimmick kenkus sort of just feel to me like knockoff changelings so i prefer that gimmick

I mean there are things a kenku can do that a changeling cant but

[reef tundra]

Like bird

[glass granite]

Birb do be birbing

[hoary mango]

marray dungeon and dragonmas

[marble lion]

Doesnt have to be selfish

A lot of lawful evil does it specifically to improve things for others

For your family, your people, the world

[limber trail]

Lawful refers to someone with a code of conduct and ideals, who follows them. So someone who, while evil, follows their own boundaries

[glass granite]

A method to their madness

[marble lion]

I dont think it has to be madness either

[glass granite]

Ok now I want to make a tomato analogy for alignment, there’s already one for stats…

[limber trail]

They kill people, but only who have acted against them. They respect enemies who surrender with quick deaths. They don’t harm needlessly when they could instead subjugate and allow them to serve

[marble lion]

Evil can be very rational and pragmatic. The evil part is them being willing to step over morality to get it done

Its still evil but not necessarily mad insane or irrational

Its just evil

[severe rampart]

That's the most messed up kind of evil

[marble lion]

Not if theyre right

I think the most messed up kind is the one where its false justice, personally

Witchtrials are a great example

If youre gonna hurt people, dont tell them they deserve it unless they really do. Makes me sick

[knotty pasture]

The real Lawful Evils are the Lawful Goods along the way

[fiery nimbus]

tbh, justice comes from the rules, ergo if rules change so does the "justice"

[knotty pasture]

Which kind of comes down to whether one's good trumps over their lawful

[marble lion]

No

Some things were never just but very legal. Still are tbh

I dont care much for what a specific group finds right or wrong

Ofc it is in the eye of the beholder though

[severe rampart]

What monster in DnD do you guys think would taste the best if they were cooked?

[fiery nimbus]

so, either you believe into an objective right and wrong, or are missing the point

[severe rampart]

I'd argue dragons

[marble lion]

Not objective no
My own view of it

It mostly relates to humans though. Compassion is universal

[olive wasp]

I feel like the marbling on a Minotaur might be great

[marble lion]

I think there is a humancentric possibility of an approximation of objective morality (thus not actually objective)

[severe rampart]

what kind

[marble lion]

All

[olive wasp]

The more cow ones

[marble lion]

Why not both

[olive wasp]

That’s a lot of big words

[severe rampart]

Yeah that'd be delicious

[severe rampart]

Yeah, there is no "objective" morality, imo

[marble lion]

Ofc not. The universe doesnt care

[olive wasp]

The first philosopher ever rejects objective morality

[burnt valley]

Mystra is chaotic evil

[olive wasp]

That was his whole thing

[marble lion]

But within humanity's own world, there is something close

[fiery nimbus]

I mean, im sure people from your example also followed their own "justice"

[marble lion]

Yeah

Its still false justice because theyre wrong

[sly jacinth]

gonna be honest, leftists trying to justify subjective morality at christmas in a dungeons and dragons game that used to be mainly conservative has to be the funniest thing ever

[marble lion]

Leftist?

[olive wasp]

Political leanings are a part of this?

[severe rampart]

I'd rather not get political in a Dungeons and Dragons Discord Server

[marble lion]

Im not any kind of ist thank you very much

[olive wasp]

I just saw morality and I just came off an ethics course so I can speak a bit on it

[marble lion]

Actually pianist i suppose i am

[olive wasp]

Learned a lot of different philosophies

[severe rampart]

Politics is different from ethics, I think?

[sly jacinth]

sorry you're right, getting offended about identity is a conservative value

[fiery nimbus]

well, that is the problem, are we right?

[olive wasp]

They intertwine as ethics with all things but you can have an entirely separate conversation about both ethics and politics

[marble lion]

Is this guy trolling?

[olive wasp]

Shmaybe

[marble lion]

Anyone can be offended over some random internet guy making claims about your identity. Rightly so. Buzz off

[fiery nimbus]

most likely they are

[marble lion]

On christmas too smh

[olive wasp]

I wonder if I can post gifs in here. I might try but I haven’t seen anyone else do it so

[marble lion]

Nope

[reef tundra]

No gifs, no images

[olive wasp]

Probably for the best

[reef tundra]

Agreed

[olive wasp]

But if anyone knows Mr. Chief the cat id post him

[marble lion]

Links work but dont embed
You have to explain what they lead to if you post one though and it needs to follow rules of course

[sly jacinth]

I can't be offended about identity, but your characterization would have been offensive because you assumed anyone can be offended

thankfully I can't, so it wasn't offensive

[fiery nimbus]

what the hell are you even talking about

[olive wasp]

Are you a sardine because it’s your favorite fish or because you like eating them

[marble lion]

I like making up dnd fish

[sly jacinth]

forgot the reply button

[severe rampart]

I mean, doesn't that mean you love them either way?

[reef tundra]

Same. I made a homebrew species named the Sea Shifter

[marble lion]

I knew it

[severe rampart]

I love sardine ----> (I love eating sardines/I love sardines, they're so cute)

[olive wasp]

Well yeah but I love catfish I think they’re silly

[marble lion]

But also taste good i bet

[olive wasp]

But they do also taste good so bad example

[marble lion]

I really want to try them

[olive wasp]

Exactly

[olive wasp]

Louisiana. Go to Louisiana

[reef tundra]

Back on topic

[fiery nimbus]

where are mods when the chat needs clearing -_-

[marble lion]

Im in europe. No america trip anytime soon

[reef tundra]

What are people’s favourite homebrew species?

[glass granite]

The hollow knight vessels (courtesy of me)

[olive wasp]

I made my own, so I’m biased towards it. I like things with six arms

[reef tundra]

There is a penguin species I love so much

[fiery nimbus]

Arachne/Drider
I absolutely love the idea of a big half-spider

[olive wasp]

Many arms is many cool

[severe rampart]

Driders are homebrew? oh my god

[fiery nimbus]

using the spider appendages like spears

[fiery nimbus]

playable driders are

[severe rampart]

oh phew

[sly jacinth]

I think fishes have no sould or emotions and any anthropization of fishes always made me laugh, like zelda's zoras having romantic stories always made me laugh histerically, and specifically the most insignifcant fish I would think is a sardine so I call myself sardin

[marble lion]

Female driders would be homebrew i think

[fiery nimbus]

i did also play Lamia but its a different thing

[marble lion]

Ill probably do that in my game

[burnt valley]

Bread

[glass granite]

What sort

[olive wasp]

Quite a story for that.

[sly jacinth]

true

[olive wasp]

Speaking of fish is there a homebrew mermaid species that works well?

I always wondered if there’s a good one out there. But I’d imagine it would be quite difficult due to the amount of land traversal

[severe rampart]

Giant fishbowl

[olive wasp]

Well mermaids can breathe air right? But I imagine trying to walk anywhere would be a giant hassle

[reef tundra]

Not to brag but my sea shifter species 😎

They can shift between fish features and land features

[olive wasp]

Ooooh that sounds cool

[reef tundra]

Ty

Although I can’t take all the credit I got help from a friend and the people of this server with abilities

[olive wasp]

I’m new to homebrew. I have a few “finished” projects but that’s it.

[olive wasp]

Hey collaboration leads to better results. You still pioneered it

[marble lion]

Any xmas oneshots coming up?

[olive wasp]

I collaborated with friends for my recent project

[sly jacinth]

if you make a tidal shifter it allows to have moments they can get out and lure people to the sea and kill them if you were thinking of enemies

the game could be about forcing them on land more than they can stay

[glass granite]

Hol up, now that I think about it, I’ve only done one proper campaign (scheduled sessions, lasts more than 30-40 minutes), and that’s the one I’m doing rn

[olive wasp]

Many of the campaigns i participated in died lol. But that was due to dm issues

I’m in one rn but it’s on hiatus for the holidays

[olive wasp]

Hows that going? How deep into it are ya

[glass granite]

7 sessions

Going well

[olive wasp]

Respectable. Is the party good?

[glass granite]

Most of the 8 players are good

Some don’t show up enough, but ah well

[olive wasp]

Ooooh big party that can be a lot of fun but also a lot of effort

[glass granite]

That just about sums it up

[olive wasp]

#1 problem right there. I’ve been in campaigns mostly with huge parties. Sometimes you just gotta play with who shows up

[glass granite]

Yeah, sessions now usually only have 6 playeds

[olive wasp]

But then you end up having a core group and all that

[glass granite]

5 or 6, ig

[olive wasp]

Still a good party size

Combat with 8 people can kinda be a slog sometimes. Especially if your turn flops

[glass granite]

Yeah

[olive wasp]

Byeah

I mean it makes sense that there aren’t any “constitution centered” classes but do you think they’ll ever make one

[reef tundra]

Awww Ty

[fiery nimbus]

problem would be the fact its both and defensive and offensive stat and we already have Dex in game

[olive wasp]

Yeah, it’s so hard for me to ignore dex because it does so much

[glass granite]

I’m a monk main, so it’s even harder for me

[fiery nimbus]

I have a character with dumped dex, the amount of investment required to off-set it is tramendous

[olive wasp]

But constitution I feel like has very little use to it. Like the things it does make sense and it does well but there really is a huge lack of activity with it

[glass granite]

Concentration and keeping you alive is pretty useful

[olive wasp]

I’d imagine. Stealth, sleight of hand, ac, no finesse weapons, acrobatics

[olive wasp]

Oh yeah absolutely not downplaying that. But even strength has athletics

But I do suppose constitution is the most common save

[fiery nimbus]

no, i meant offset the pure survivality loss from dumping dex
you lose out on both initiative and AC

[glass granite]

Plus, constitution is the one stat that you never, under any decent circumstance, dump

[fiery nimbus]

nah that one you can dump

[olive wasp]

Ahhh gotcha. Yeah I think there’s just so much work you need to do to be able to dump dex

[glass granite]

Melees need it for frontlining, casters need it to concentrate and survive breathing, and ranges need it cuz one ambush and they’re dead

[olive wasp]

Heavy armor is a must

[fiery nimbus]

I also don't have heavy armor so there is even more investment

[olive wasp]

Jeez Louise

[glass granite]

Tortle?

How are you keeping your AC up?

[olive wasp]

Glass cannon

Kerblooey

[limber trail]

Some classes can do it decently easily.

I’ve found Paladins especially are well suited to not need it

[glass granite]

Same with some clerics

[reef tundra]

As soon as heavy armour is in the picture, it’s optional

[knotty pasture]

No cuz its such an essential stat that this class would be incredibly SAD

[olive wasp]

But that’s pretty limiting because most classes don’t do that. But also that’s just part of the game

[remote wadi]

Yeah, I personally never was a big fan of heavy armor tbh

[knotty pasture]

Or rather I'd imagine it'll just play out like a Rogue, where you stack con and dex and call it a day

[olive wasp]

You can’t low dex a rogue or a barbarian lol

[remote wadi]

But that's also because my other favorite RPG game has very strong light armor

[glass granite]

As a monk, never was a fan of any armor

[remote wadi]

That's because Unarmored Defense

[glass granite]

Indeed!

[reef tundra]

That’s a good point

[remote wadi]

Fallout, especially New Vegas, has really great Light Armor, especially because of how potent crit builds are (which explains my enjoyment of crit builds in DnD)

[olive wasp]

I guess that’s true. But I think it could be a possibility but a lot of careful thought or detail would need to be put into it

[fiery perch]

ok so in the blinded condition it says "You can't see" and your attacks have disadvantage

but if you can't see, isn't it the same as having all creatures behind total cover wrt to you?

[olive wasp]

Low dex heavy armor wizard. That seems like fun

[glass granite]

No

[reef tundra]

Darkness can’t stop a weapon

[fiery perch]

Yes but if you can't see it's like 99% chance you are gonna miss, why even roll for it

[fiery nimbus]

Basically if you have no AC you have to assume you will be damaged every hit, so you need a total cover

[olive wasp]

It stops my weapons, I refuse to swing without a nightlight

[reef tundra]

Have you ever fought someone in the dark?

While it’s harder, you can absolutely still hit them

[fiery perch]

then it's not dark enough

duh
total darkness is when you can't even make out your own body parts

[reef tundra]

I have fought in pitch black. Funny thing is, I can still hear

[severe rampart]

Think about it this way, you can't hit someone through a wall, but you can absolutely hit a pinata while blindfolded

[olive wasp]

Marco Polo is not this fellas game

[fiery perch]

you know the pinata's location
if the pinata is moving then you are not hitting it while blind folded

[feral fulcrum]

I didn't ask how dark the room was, I said I cast Tsunami.

[severe rampart]

You guys don't get spun all around while blindfolded?

[fiery perch]

you can still hear, but I am getting that

[knotty pasture]

The closest I got was something like changing the multiclass requirements for Paladin from Str/Cha to Con/Cha

[fiery perch]

right I forgot about that,

[fiery nimbus]

darkness helps because creatures with blinded condition basically can't cast spells and can bearly hit anything

[olive wasp]

I don’t care if I don’t see. I’m swinging my arms like a beyblade until I hit something

[knotty pasture]

A slightly more practical use for con at last!!

[reef tundra]

But I’m not fighting a piñata I’m fighting someone who’s trying to fight me too

[severe rampart]

alright then think about it this way, in the dark you can throw a dart and there is a CHANCE it will hit someone, a SMALL chance, so it's POSSIBLE

[reef tundra]

Other than living?

[fiery perch]

yea true but what I am saying is
If you can make out their location outside of hearing then it just isn't dark enough

[fiery nimbus]

and the best way to avoid damage is simply not being where the damage is happening

[knotty pasture]

Yeah basically, constitution felt like one of those stats that's more of a necessity due to responsibility rather than something you want to actively stack

[reef tundra]

I can still hit them even if I can’t see anything. Sure I have a disadvantage when I attack them but I can still hit them

[knotty pasture]

You stack the bare minimum to not kick the bucket

[severe rampart]

I think if someone hit me I'd have a good idea of where they are, so sense of touch

[fiery perch]

hit and run tactics

[olive wasp]

That’s interesting, I guess you’re right. I think constitution is not required for any skill and it can just be how a person is. Any character can be tough and any character can be frail

[feral fulcrum]

Things like Rune knight rectify that by tying subclass things to your con score as well.

[olive wasp]

It’s a stat for every character to consider

[knotty pasture]

But tbh the whole constitution topic relates to how 5e isn't perfectly designed and has room for improvement

[severe rampart]

Echolocation

[reef tundra]

Or maybe we can enjoy things and not see everything as something to “improve”

[remote wadi]

Don't count on it. Lady Luck will not approve

[fiery perch]

How will you even know the direction in which to swing your weapon

[severe rampart]

still, he believes that it is impossible

[reef tundra]

Because I can hear them

[fiery perch]

Assume people are not bats

[glass granite]

A reminder that dnd ain’t realistic

[knotty pasture]

Probably, no hate on 5e of course I hope you weren't insinuating that

[feral fulcrum]

I will say that one would have to be careful to avoid a Dexterity situation where it's pullling quadruple duty.

[olive wasp]

There are more bat people then you know

[reef tundra]

Apologies, I’m just used to people doing so

[glass granite]

It’s part of the charm

[olive wasp]

It’s the ones with big ears

[feral fulcrum]

Offense, Defense, Super Important Save, etc.

[remote wadi]

The odds are not zero, but they are low. Besides, it's my thing to be screwed over by impossible odds

[knotty pasture]

It was just a discussion I had with acquaintances, one of them is a long time PF2e fan and the other is making their own ttrpg

And the whole topic of constitution being a weirdly designed stat out of necessity came up

[reef tundra]

Pathfinder player, of course

[severe rampart]

yeah and that's why the characters are rolling with disadvantage, instead of just failing without rolling, it's still possible but this guy is saying it isn't possible to hit someone when it's dark

[reef tundra]

Actually that’s rude of me to say.

[olive wasp]

I could not imagine making a whole ttrpg good luck anyone who can. I burnt out on porting a subclass concept into the dndbeyond system

We can all avoid the darkness scenario by just having true sight or blindsight. Everyone gets access to those. I too can envision everything around me

[knotty pasture]

Yeah I uhh, don't think the convo was meant to be antagonizing

[feral fulcrum]

Everyone does not infact get access to true sight or blindsight, what?

[reef tundra]

Yeah, I’m sorry

[glass granite]

Hi sorry, I’m Nugget
Lez move on

[reef tundra]

Agreed

[olive wasp]

I was being sarcastic just a little bit

Sorry

[reef tundra]

I have a battle oracle subclass that gets blindsight and truesight at level 18

[glass granite]

Tad overkill

[olive wasp]

Do you need blindsight when you have true sight?

[fiery nimbus]

that is not very good for a capstone

[reef tundra]

They are all seeing

[olive wasp]

Or can truesight individuals be blinded

[glass granite]

I live for overkill, approved

[knotty pasture]

Oh the guy was amazing when he gets down to it, wrote a massive excel sheet for counter strike and then for team fortress 2, currently dabbling in ttrpgs

Game design's one hell of a deep hole to dive into

[olive wasp]

Oh he’s just got the drive. Fair play

[glass granite]

Though I agree with the others, it feels a lil weak

[remote wadi]

Ah. Well, it might as well be

Unless the enemy is trying to, then it's 50/50

[reef tundra]

I know.

[glass granite]

Throw in permanent Foresight!! /j

[feral fulcrum]

Truesight does that by default though. Blindsense kind of doesn't do anything for something with True Sight. Tremorsense would be another matter.

[olive wasp]

Now now Prometheus

[reef tundra]

It’s mostly a placeholder

[fiery nimbus]

to be honest being able to have always active Foresight spell would be very good

[burnt valley]

Give enemies actual class features

[reef tundra]

I love doing that

[glass granite]

Believe in me as you believe the sun has risen: not just because you see me, but by my flames you see everything else.

(Basically a villain monologue I made for m’boi Prommy)

[fiery nimbus]

i do love giving enemies feats

[feral fulcrum]

Lucky Feat.

[olive wasp]

Give enemies weaknesses like an insatiable love of bread

[burnt valley]

Imagine Bladesinging Kolyaruts, 30 AC with Parry lmao

[fiery nimbus]

There is no reason why guards shouldn't have sentinel

[reef tundra]

Giving bugbears sentinel and polearm master

[glass granite]

I’d argue too powerful

[fiery nimbus]

Royal Guards*

[reef tundra]

He’s talking about the permanent foresight

[fiery nimbus]

correct it would be... so? its a capstone

[reef tundra]

-# Which I am considering

[burnt valley]

Nahh give Bugbears 2014 Assassin Rogue's Assassinate and an extra attack

[olive wasp]

If Prometheus foresees he stubs his toe. Does he have the possibility to change fate by refusing to move at all?

[feral fulcrum]

Random dudes with permanent foresight don't particularly make sense.

[glass granite]

Permanent advantage on attacks and having everything have disadvantage on you is too powerful imo

[reef tundra]

Nah 20 ft range opportunity attack is too funny to me

[olive wasp]

Also give them advantage on insight. If hey can even see into the soul

[glass granite]

Not actually sure how Greek myth does their premonitions
I assume not

[burnt valley]

What if you stack that with the rogue thingy lol

[olive wasp]

My knowledge is from hades 2 the video game. I have no idea what I am talking about

[glass granite]

I thought the bugbear stuff only worked on your turn?

[glass granite]

I played it too, that guy bet me bad

[fiery nimbus]

Someone here did gave their enemies a pernament dead magic zone around them and their player threw a fit

[burnt valley]

If they moved first yes

[burnt valley]

Wtf why, that screws both sides

[olive wasp]

I’m Prometheus’ biggest hater. I dislike him (also Scylla I was stuck hard on her during the beginning)

[knotty pasture]

Define dead magic zone, so are you not able to cast spells within the zone or do all spells poof into nothing within that zone

[feral fulcrum]

It is poor form on anything that's not a boss encounter specifficaly designed to murder the crap out of Wizards and the like.

[fiery nimbus]

because encounter was supposed to mix it up

[knotty pasture]

The former makes for a tricky boss fight, the latter sounds v challenging

[feral fulcrum]

Magic Go Bye Bye Zone

[fiery nimbus]

nah pretty sure there was like 1 enemy with that in a group of enemies

[knotty pasture]

Hell of a tough fight

[burnt valley]

Wouldnt that meant no magic items either?

[feral fulcrum]

Also really depends on what the DM rules as magic

[knotty pasture]

Weapons and armor are fine, items that can cast spells are not I assume

My interpretation is that its similar to the Silence spell except it follows around the user

And Silence doesn't disable magical weapons/armor

[feral fulcrum]

The worst DM's do things like "Um actually everything Monk's do is magic and therfore you have no class in this encounter."

[olive wasp]

Sussur flower type thing

Or however it’s spelt

[burnt valley]

They're now 10 levels in Commoner 😭

[fiery nimbus]

why tough? just have martial kill that one guy

[olive wasp]

Whose Marshall

Why are we having him kill people

[knotty pasture]

If the team has a martial or two at least, even then its skewed in the boss's favor

Cuz its a 1v1 or 2v1 etc instead of the full 4v1

[severe rampart]

I might commission an artist to draw my DnD Character but I'm so unsure

[olive wasp]

I’m waiting for my one friend who can draw to do it

[fiery nimbus]

again not a boss fight, just an encounter...

[olive wasp]

I was told a while ago it would happen. And now I wait for possibly ever

[feral fulcrum]

I'm fairly sure Dead Magic zones are more like Antimagic Field's.

[severe rampart]

You paid them?

[olive wasp]

But it’s free so no complaints

Nope! She just likes to draw. Shes in the campaign too

[knotty pasture]

Tbh at that point I'd just mold one on Heroforge

[severe rampart]

Aghh, I wish I had artist friends lmao, I don't support AI at all so the only way my character can come to life is through commissions

[knotty pasture]

Or better yet, make your own character on bg3 and screenshot it

[severe rampart]

yeah but I'd also like to support artists :)

[knotty pasture]

Make one on heroforge, and then donate money to them

[olive wasp]

Haha I mean if she ever gets around to it. But i won’t hold it against her. Shes a million projects none of them finished

Though occasionally she does finish a few

I mean I’d also get my character drawn if I had a decent income

[remote wadi]

I'm starting to realize I may have a slight obsession with mimics

From DnD moments to games that largely feature them (Prey and Mimic Logic)

[marble lion]

Mimics are very likeable

[remote wadi]

Come to think of it

They would make for a great backpack the more you think about it

Would happily hold all sorts of goodies for you, but if someone tries to rob you

Then there you go. Feeding time

[knotty pasture]

Is it because of Dragon Quest

[zinc hare]

Hello is there a place for me to promote? I just made an instagram account to post some of the minis I've painted

[glass granite]

#dnd-advertisements maybe?

[fiery nimbus]

would make it harded to drop it

[severe rampart]

What word would be the best when using "Command"?, I'm thinking "betray" for large groups of enemies

[mint pendant]

Merry Christmas dnd bunch

[remote wadi]

Wanted to ask a question

Level 4 is around the corner and that means either an ASI or a feat. My character has very solid stats overall, so there wouldn't be too many benefits to an ASI

On the other hand, I can't think of any feats to take earlier than I need to. What feats are ultra important for someone who wants to use a Assassin Gloomstalker build?

[knotty pasture]

Sharpshooter

[remote wadi]

I already have Sharpshooter and Piercer, so no need for mentioning those. I plan to get Alert and Lucky eventually, but are there other feats worth noting?

[remote wadi]

Was trying to say it sooner, but was searching what other benefits Alert gave

[knotty pasture]

Crossbow Expert but you need a Crossbow

[oak grotto]

Even if you have rolled exceptionally well, your stats can always be improved. As for what feats you should pick idk what to tell you.

[remote wadi]

From seeing my character more, here's what I can mention

Gunner should probably be taken later on. Yes, I did all of the needed stuff with my dm

Yes, my stats could be improved more, but not in many ways worth taking an ASI for this early (Dex would be 20 after Gunner, Wisdom and Con aren't terrible either)

So I guess my new question is
"What noteworthy feats are there for a Rogue Ranger nova build aside from the following: Sharpshooter, Piercer, Gunner/CBE, Alert, Lucky, and Observant"

[blissful ibex]

skulker maybe?

[keen valve]

Mobile most certainly.

[remote wadi]

I just looked at skulker and mobile

For Skulker, not terribly sure if I get huge benefits from it

Being able to get and maintain stealth easier would be great. But this is something my character would be able to do easily already

CBE, yes

[glass granite]

Forgot the acronym

Well there’s always tough/hj

Skulker is aight, good if you wanna stay hidden while you’re shooting someone.

[remote wadi]

Anyways, when I reach level 4, I will have 19 Dex and an expertise in Stealth (+8 modifier)

Not to mention with the benefits from Assassin, this phrase phrases the problem the best: the gunshot you hear isn't the one that kills you

[glass granite]

Only other one I could suggest is elven accuracy

[keen valve]

Mobile is great, imagine moving... but you do it a lot.

[glass granite]

Observant is fun, no enemy is getting away from you with that

It’s also very overkill for perception

[remote wadi]

It could be, but I already have 30 feet of movement. And with how little I need Bonus Action, that means Cunning Action is very much on the menu

[glass granite]

Oh maybe something to fill in your BA?

[blissful ibex]

Fey-Touched is great for extra mobility and provides access to Slivery Barbs and Misty Step

[remote wadi]

Hence the Cunning Action

[glass granite]

But you’re gonna be shooting from ranged, what CA are you really using?
Dodge?

[blissful ibex]

gives you one cast of each for free and let's you use your spell slots on it as well later

[glass granite]

If you’re in melee range, something has gone horribly wrong. Though, mobile would be very nice there.

[remote wadi]

I'm pretty sure Hide is an option with CA

[glass granite]

Damn you’re right, i somehow forgor

[severe rampart]

Would it be a bad idea to be in two DnD Parties at the same time?

[remote wadi]

Yeah, CA means bonus action for Hide, Dash, or Disengage

[blissful ibex]

In the same time slot? Probably XD
otherwise it's fine

[remote wadi]

As for Observant... I want to ask something

[glass granite]

Indeed

[blissful ibex]

I'm (technically) in two campaigns and sign up for AL Games every so often

[remote wadi]

What happens when 2 sides try to be stealthy and both pass each other's P. Perception?

[glass granite]

Neither see each other unless they use the investigate action and pass the DC

At least iirc

[remote wadi]

I mean what does that do for being surprised?

[humble cairn]

You can technically both be Surprised.

If combat starts and you do not detect any enemies, you are Surprised. Though how combat would start when both parties don't detect each other I'm not entirely sure.

[remote wadi]

So I would have the surprise benefits on them and vice versa? How would that work out?

[humble cairn]

Are you using 2014 or 2024 Surprise?

[glass granite]

Combat wouldn’t start, no?
And 2014

[remote wadi]

Probably 2014

I don't think the surprise would cancel out for interactions between those 2, would they?

[blissful ibex]

TIL 'speedy' is the 2024 version of Mobile

[humble cairn]

Hold on, I made a visual for this once.

[glass granite]

It’s why many say Mobile/Speedy

[remote wadi]

Either way, I'm not entirely sure how good Observant is when Alert means that as long as I am conscious, I cannot be surprised

[blissful ibex]

Why does my spellcaster want all the Dex half ASI feats q_q

[humble cairn]

Here's my Surprised visual aid: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1ubBPUHtRmHacdV176DOxG25NrVkVvUpkuYq_TLMaKdM/edit?usp=sharing

[remote wadi]

So I kind of figured that for them vs my surprised team and me vs their surprised team

[humble cairn]

A creature that detects any enemies is not surprised.

[remote wadi]

I thought it was just enemies that didn't see you

[humble cairn]

No. It doesn't matter if they don't detect a singular enemy, if they detect any of them, they are not Surprised.

They have to detect 0 enemies to be Surprised.

[remote wadi]

So in other words

[glass granite]

So your party would have to pass their stealth rolls too

[humble cairn]

Your team ruins Surprise for you.

Which is why Assassins like to work alone.

[glass granite]

That’s what Pass Without Trace is for, I suppose

Or go ahead of your party and just assassinate everything first

[remote wadi]

This knowledge is both very useful and one of the most depressing things on the planet simultaneously

[humble cairn]

This was the issue with 2014 Assassin. It makes them want to work alone in a fundamentally team based game.

[remote wadi]

I have a Fighter, Paladin, and Cleric on the team. Presumably all 3 have Heavy Armor with a chance of Stealth Disadvantage medium armor

[glass granite]

Wait does 2014 assassin need to surprise the enemy, or just go first?

[humble cairn]

Surprise

At least to get that tasty double damage.

[remote wadi]

Surprised means guaranteed crits

[glass granite]

I see

Well, you’ll have to go on ahead first then

[remote wadi]

But you still get good chances of advantage with that sweet sweet initiative

[remote wadi]

And I assume 2024 fixed this? What did it change and what did it cost?

[glass granite]

If you see an enemy, you engage first. Observant might be able to help you detect enemies faster

Oh 2024 no longer need them to be surprised. Unfortunately, guaranteed crit is gone, replaced by extra damage equal to your rogue level (if you land a sneak attack)

[remote wadi]

So it would be at level 3, a +3 to sneak attack damage?

[humble cairn]

It did. It normalized their playstyle so you don't need Surprise, which is also good since they changed Surprise mechanics anyway. It toned down the damage and just made it so they do extra damage on the first turn against anyone who hasn't taken a turn yet. Much more reliable but not as big numbers. You will get it every fight without much hassle, but it's not going to murder anyone with even a medium about of beefiness in one shot.

[remote wadi]

Ouch. That is one harsh nerf

[humble cairn]

I like it, it makes it so you get to actually use your subclass ability without being the problem PC who either goes off to fight alone and gets killed or fights with the party about trying to ambush enemies every single time.

[remote wadi]

I suppose the intentions are great

But like... needing to burn sneak attack just to often add less than double digit damage?

[humble cairn]

Also, it tended to make Assassin characters into murder hobos. They would rather push that shiny button first before an encounter had a chance to turn into "too much talking."

[glass granite]

“Burn sneak attack”?

[humble cairn]

Burn? Sneak Attack is not a limited resource.

[glass granite]

You usually only attack once anyway too

[remote wadi]

I mean in the sense of one per turn

[humble cairn]

But ... if you're attacking someone you want to Sneak Attack them, and if you Sneak Attack them you want extra damage, no?

It's literally Enhanced Sneak Attack.

[remote wadi]

Well, sure

But as I was told, it's just an addition equal to Rogue level

[humble cairn]

And 2014 Assassin also wanted to Sneak Attack on their Surprise attack.

[remote wadi]

Yeah, and I was trying to type that out

[blissful ibex]

Scion of the Three also wants to sneak attack on their reaction XD

[glass granite]

Well every rogue would love to be able to do that

[blissful ibex]

sadly Druid's Primal Strike does not work on reactions

[remote wadi]

With just double dice (no chunky), Longbow, Piercer, and crit, you're adding an average of 16 extra piercing damage at level 3

Vs just... 3 at level 3

[glass granite]

Almost as if one is a crit boosted by a feat, and the other is a bit of extra reliable damage

[quiet kiln]

Sorry to interrupt, and firstly, happy Christmas and seasons greetings. Now that mushy stuff aside:

Cleric has the "memorize" spell. Can this spell be used to memorize spell scrolls?
Follow-up; can the same cleric work together with a scribe wizard to replicate the scroll memorized?

[frank orbit]

Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄

[hot gate]

Do you mean wizard has "memorize spell"?

[blissful ibex]

Valda's Spire of Secrets is #third-party content

[quiet kiln]

No, pretty sure the character is a twilight cleric

[remote wadi]

It's more a guaranteed crit then a crit boosted. Turning your odds from 5-10% into 100% for the first turn is massive

[glass granite]

Piercer boosts crit

[hot gate]

That's not something that twilight has. Do you know how that specific feature is called?

[quiet kiln]

Oh wrong channel. My bad

[remote wadi]

Oh. You kind of left it vague, so I assumed you were only comparing assassin 5e vs 5.5e

[humble cairn]

New Assassin get Adv on Init rolls, which is the same benefit you get for being hidden when combat starts, without needing to be hidden. They also get Adv on all attack rolls in the first round, same benefit as if they were hidden, which means they can basically guarantee Sneak Attack in the first round of combat, and in that first round they get extra damage on that Sneak Attack.

[glass granite]

-# sounds healthier than the 2014 version to me

[quiet kiln]

I'll take a look then get back to you

[hot gate]

What about that was Valdas Spire?

[blissful ibex]

Memorize is a spell from the player pack

[humble cairn]

They do not have to actually Surprise anyone because they basically get the mechanical benefits of having Surprised people just by being an Assassin.

[remote wadi]

Not saying it's terrible, just that crits are crits. And at this point, I'm tempted to just say "He needs it" with less irony than I would want to admit

[hot gate]

Ohhh, thanks!

[remote wadi]

Like, we already know how often the world is the wizard's oyster

[humble cairn]

Just don't get mad at your party when they inevitably ruin your ambush.

[quiet kiln]

Yeah, it says cleric can learn it. I just want to know how limited I should make spell scrolls, if he's gonna keep using memorize

[blissful ibex]

You're going to want to ask in #third-party

[remote wadi]

Well... how safe would it be to say that the average enemy at level 8 would have 18 P. Perception?

[blissful ibex]

depends on what tier of play

[remote wadi]

CoS going up to level 11 max

[humble cairn]

No clue.

[blissful ibex]

not nerribly many IIRC, though I've only played like 2/3 the module
nothing jumped out as super perceptive

[remote wadi]

Just doing some quick calculations in my head

[humble cairn]

But again, it's not about your Stealth. It's about the stealth of your party.

[remote wadi]

At a more manageable 16 Passive Perception hypothetically

[blissful ibex]

that's what Pass Without Trace is for XD

[humble cairn]

No Rangers or Druids in the party.

[blissful ibex]

it's a really good campaign for druids/rangers too q_q

[hot gate]

Also helps if the DM is nice and uses group checks.

[humble cairn]

You know what campaign Bloodline is playing?

[remote wadi]

Casting PWT on the party means that even with disadvantage and no modifiers, the odds of success for a person passing are roughly (3/4)²

[humble cairn]

I must have missed it.

[remote wadi]

So 9/16, or about 57%

[remote wadi]

CoS, max level 11

[blissful ibex]

Bloodline said CoS

[humble cairn]

Ahh , I did miss it.

[remote wadi]

So as long as my team can chill far away enough that the enemy can't notice them, it should be good enough

[blissful ibex]

Longbow and Sharpshooter with slow mastery is very nice for sniping enemies 120 squares away XD

[remote wadi]

This is 2014, so no slow

[blissful ibex]

aw, still good

[remote wadi]

I'm more concerned with getting a good hunting rifle soon

That with Assassin at level 6 is when the big numbers start showing up

[humble cairn]

Do they seem like the types that will cooperate with you on this?

[remote wadi]

I did talk to my party about the previous mishaps
While most responded and seemed receptive, whether it will actually happen is yet to be seen

[humble cairn]

But yeah, one combat where you get three auto-crit attacks in the first round and delete a high value target will probably impress them.

[remote wadi]

By the way, for those curious about why Assassin is being rushed towards by me, crits with Hunting Rifle, Sneak Attack, and Piercer will do (if I did this right) 2d10 + 35 from the shot and 2d6 + 12 damage from the sneak attack

[remote wadi]

I don't know if the extra damage dice on Chunky Crits is applied to the random dice or max damage dice, would you happen to know?

[karmic heath]

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!🎅🏿🎄🎁

[remote wadi]

All it says for Piercer is that on crits, an additional damage dice is added. But with Chunky Crits, I don't know if that's added to the random damage, the guaranteed, or both

[humble cairn]

I've never played with chunky crits but regular crits apply to Sneak Attack dice.

[humble cairn]

It's part of the attack so you'd double it as well. One of them getting maximized and the other one rolled.

[remote wadi]

Like, for a longbow, would it be
A. 1d8 + 16
B. 2d8 + 8
C. 2d8 + 16

And I assume your response means C

[humble cairn]

The things you don't double are stuff that are not part of the actual attack damage like poison.

[remote wadi]

Right?

[humble cairn]

This is slightly unexplained.

You have Piercer and are critting with a longbow?

[remote wadi]

And it's chunky crits, yes

So I was wondering if the Piercer damage dice addition is applied to the random damage, the maximum, or both

[humble cairn]

Hmm ... I actually don't know. I'm rereading Piercer and it assumes the regular crit mechanics.

Regular longbow attack: 1d8
Regular crit: 2d8
Piercer crit: 3d8

[remote wadi]

Which that makes sense

But with Chunky crits, it takes the maximum damage possible as an addition

[silk hare]

What are chunky crits?

[remote wadi]

Aka Perkin crit, is regular damage dice + max possible dice instead of just doubling dice

[silk hare]

Where'd u get that one from?

[remote wadi]

Common homebrew rule

[humble cairn]

It's a fairly common homebrew.

[silk hare]

Like I get what u mean by it just interested in the source

I see, nvm then

[humble cairn]

But I actually don't know how it interacts with Piercer, ask your DM.

Or try #dnd-rules

[remote wadi]

Waiting for a response

[silk hare]

2d8 + 8 is my opinion

Full damage from the crit + added benefit of piercer

[grand plinth]

Merry crimisss

[silk hare]

Separate damage roll/ mechanic

Same as I would say genie damage rolls would be handled

[humble cairn]

Yeah that seems fair, just add another rolled damage die.

[silk hare]

Yup, makes the most sense imo

Otherwise you could do some ridiculous damage piling depending on your character

[remote wadi]

I would want to say it's added before the maximum is calculated

[ripe gorge]

Guess where i learned about dnd

[remote wadi]

But this is quite confusing. Hopefully, my DM can shed some light on the issue

[past iron]

I sometimes like to imagine that my characters are voiced by famous people, and I just now had the idea for a Joe Pesci gnome.

[silk hare]

Stranger things

[ripe gorge]

Yes but no

[silk hare]

What exactly do u mean by that?

[knotty pasture]

I calculated it, it said 8 + 2d8 + modifier

So go with that

[silk hare]

O.o not the ai

[remote wadi]

Piercer mentions that you add an additional damage dice to the extra damage it would take from a critical hit

[severe rampart]

AI is not the most reliable source, it gets some info wrong, if you have a question you can just ask right here

[silk hare]

Yes, but i think the discrepancy here is the homebrew rule

U can rule it either way, but

A: u treat the rule as "normal cries only" in which case u roll an extra d8

Or u see both as "the crit dies" and apply the rule to both

Ultimately it's really up to your DM but I'd see it as an extra modifier and apply 2D8+8

[knotty pasture]

If its simple maths its not the worst I guess, the answer seems to be within the kinda range I'm expecting

[silk hare]

You would be surprised how a language model often miscalculates bc it doesn't actually calculate

[knotty pasture]

A good thing I avoid maths like the plague since HS and never went through the part where AI fooled me

[silk hare]

I guess, but st that point just putting it into a calculator is probably faster

[remote wadi]

Calculators wouldn't be reliable

Especially because Chunky Crits are common, but not available by default

[humble cairn]

It's technically against the rules of the server to post the work of AI. I know it was just a simple question. but still.

[knotty pasture]

A simple typo somewhere, gone like the wind now

[silk hare]

Oh no just talking in general

But yeh it's ip to your DM after all

[proper turret]

Hey guys

Do you play DND using discord?

[remote wadi]

From talking to my dm, he said that the wording would imply that the critical dice are applied only once and at maximum damage

[remote wadi]

So looking at this again, it looks to be A

[rose wedge]

My table uses voice chat and roll20.net

So kinda. We don't use the platform itself to actually play.

[proper turret]

Can I join

[rose wedge]

Unlikely, since we don't know you. Sorry T_T. There's some channels dedicated to finding a table.

[knotty pasture]

That's better than what me and Vyl8n had, nice

[rose wedge]

#find-a-game , etc.

[proper turret]

Where can I look

[rose wedge]

I literally just linked the channel.

[proper turret]

I meant for other examples

[rose wedge]

#looking-for-players I guess? It's literally just under the other one I linked.

[proper turret]

Ok bro thanks

Does anyone else know where I can join as a player?

[remote wadi]

I was thinking it would be A because it seemed like a reasonable outcome to have the max damage added after the new dice were added

So back to the example with a hunting rifle, that's 2d10 + 35 from the bullet, and 2d6 + 12 from the sneak attack

No other resources used up, that's 65 piercing damage for first turn of combat

Raises up to about 78 from the second attack thanks to Gloomstalker

And if I wanted to go through the petty overkill of FF + HM, bump it up to 73, 85 with that second hit

And I could get a third attack at level 8 with 2 more ranger levels, 4th with Haste from the Bard

[humble cairn]

Extra Attack is something you're going to want to rush if you want to do consistent damage with weapons.

[remote wadi]

The current level plan (currently level 3 ranger) is
3 Rogue, 2 Ranger, 3 Rogue

[humble cairn]

The common wisdom about multiclassing with martials is not to do it before getting Extra Attack at level 5.

[remote wadi]

Perhaps, but I did weigh the ups and downs

[humble cairn]

The biggest boost you'll be getting from early levels of Rogue is Expertise, out of combat Utilty.

[remote wadi]

The 2 large things I get at Ranger's fifth level are the Extra Attack and access to second level slots (primarily for PWT)

[humble cairn]

Yes, and you probably want those first.

[remote wadi]

Which that is, if I'm not mistaken, 2 proficiencies, 2 upgrades into a expertise, Cunning Action, and guaranteed crits from Assassin

[humble cairn]

With Gloomstalker 5 you will start being able to maybe delete some enemies in the first round of combat with three attacks.

[remote wadi]

Gloomstalker 5 is pretty okay-ish for damage, the big thing is that Assassin turns those early hits in the first turn into guaranteed crits

[humble cairn]

Gloomstalker 5 gets you the basis.

[remote wadi]

Which is already tempting as is, but this is Chunky crits we are talking about

[humble cairn]

At this point, I would say ask #optimization about specifically going Gloom 5 first or not.

Just be prepared for that channel.

[woven flint]

Happy Holidays, friends 🧐

[remote wadi]

Just to give you an idea of my first turn damage, level 5 Gloomstalker with a Longbow would be an average of 27 minimum on a crit for the attacks

So that's 81 damage average with the odds normally being... .0125% of getting all 3 crits. That being roughly .1% with advantage

With 3 in each, that same damage module might stay 27 average for that same attack, but sneak attack makes 1 of those attacks now an average of 46

TLDR: if the extra damage from sneak attack won't change much for you, going from 5-10% crit chance for my first turn attacks to 100% will.

And before you say the chance to miss, Assassin getting advantage means even an AC of 18 is a hit rate of over 87% at level 6 (no bless or bardic inspiration btw)

Yes, I'm good at probability calculation. Lady Luck gifted me with the knowledge so she could have me comprehend just how badly I get screwed over by her

[humble cairn]

Again, this is #optimization talk. This is also just the first round of combat. Extra Attack will pay off for every turn in a combat. Not to mention that Rangers get the ability to get Adv as well, since I believe you said you're using Tasha's upgrades, which means you can cast Faerie Fire.

Hmm .. maybe not?

My mistake, they do not.

Ooh, if you're using Tasha's you can add Favored Foe into the damage calcs.

[glossy mountain]

Those crits are not guranteed since there are multiple conditions that have to be fulfilled:

1. You need to surprise the target (PWT helps massively with this)
2. You need to roll higher than the target in initiative
3. You need to hit the target

[humble cairn]

Yeah, technically you can Surprise someone and still not get the autocrits if they somehow roll higher than you on Initiative, removing Surprise before you get a chance to hit them.

[remote wadi]

I could, but Fae aren't really my thing. It's juuuust above my opinion on Elves.

And FF is good, but the 6 points average for crits made it easier to leave and just say "no resource spending, this is what I got"

[humble cairn]

I wouldn't normally send people to #optimization, but I feel like your experience made you want something that actually mechanically performs and so ... yeah go over there with the people who have crunched the numbers.

[remote wadi]

Surprising the target is not guaranteed, but definitely more common than you think. If I go Rogue for my next level, that is still a +8 to stealth. Level 8, that boosts to 11, 21 with PWT

As for the other 2 things, I can remedy the initiative problem by getting the Alert feat next level. Boom, +13 initiative

[glossy otter]

Merry Christmas yall

[knotty pasture]

The tabletop builds community would help you make a Ranger build that'd nuke whatever enemy you can think off this planet if you go there

[remote wadi]

And again, hitting the target is very likely with advantage. At level 6, I'll have 20 Dex, +3 proficiency, and a +2 from Archery Fighting style

[knotty pasture]

Though if there's anything I learned its that stacking stats (except through half feats) usually ain't it unless you have nothing better to pick from

[remote wadi]

At even at a beefy AC 18 with no bless or bardic inspiration, I need both dice to be a 7 or lower

Which the odds are 49/400, very close to 1/8 odds to miss

[remote wadi]

The only other feats recommended to me were Skulker (by the time they hear me, it's too late) and Mobile (I'll already have Cunning Action)

[knotty pasture]

Yeah just ask tabletop builds lol

[remote wadi]

I could probably ask the channel

[idle oar]

You know we have #optimization right? It's been recommended several times now...

[remote wadi]

But times like these are just me lively knowing the correct answer, just trying to explain my case

[remote wadi]

Was about to head over there

[idle oar]

If you explain what you're trying to optimize for folks there can help you figure out the best way to achieve that (at least by the calulations and numbers).

[stark bay]

Damn guys how much time does it takes for you usually to find yourself a game?

[idle oar]

Days, months, and even years in some cases.

[tame estuary]

too long

[idle oar]

Trying to coordinate schedules among busy people to carve out 3-4 hours to play a game is hard

[tame estuary]

it gets faster after you kinda understand what you're looking for

[idle oar]

Could also look for Westmarch games in #looking-for-community where there isn't a set DM or set party

Might be a bit easier to get into a game when it's a bit more ad-hoc

[stark bay]

I'm searching for a DM for the second day already. It takes so long

[stark bay]

"ad-hoc"?

What does that even means?

[idle oar]

in this case it means not formally planned/scheduled

[remote wadi]

It eould be funny if I could gain levels past level 20

Saying this because if the damage wasn't already high for the low level...

Imagine the 17 levels in Rogue (5 in Ranger) for Death Strike and the homebrew rule of the crit fails on con saves

[sullen ingot]

We used to be able to, and almost no one ran it. It was called epic back in 3.5

[burnt valley]

Should epics be brought back

[sullen ingot]

The problem as I remember it (large grain of salt) was that in practice you would roll at level 21 if you wanted to play epic, and you’d spend 21-23 figuring out who your character was (roleplay stuff), much like we spend 1-3 now

[sullen ingot]

I wouldn’t like to see them brought back in their own book, but I feel like they should come back with some support in each book yes

[glossy mountain]

your individual stealth bonus doesn’t matter. your whole party needs to roll high on stealth to surprise someone.

[cosmic roost]

https://media-waterdeep.cursecdn.com/attachments/0/828/c2-16.png

[severe rampart]

oh right, the chat topic, let's stay relevant

[idle oar]

Okay season greetings, please use #non-dnd-topics (and don't spam please)

[burnt valley]

im barding my inspiration

[severe rampart]

I've got a question in newcomers, if anyone can answer it :)

[remote wadi]

I did talk about that. For now, it's making sure our team doesn't charge too far ahead to be potentially seen by the enemy. But later on, they can probably get better armor to not get disadvantage on stealth checks combined with PWT

[jovial shadow]

The Monsters certainly should be.

[burnt valley]

Combined with the whole Mythic monsters thing from FTD, this could made into a fun challenge

[severe rampart]

In your guys' opinion, what's the best way to get into character during the session?

[crimson gulch]

Catch phrases said in a charicters voice

[hot marlin]

Depends on the character

But reminding yourself of the character's motivation is always part of it

[serene jolt]

Post 20 support for DnD would be pretty cool

I know some servers do it but none of the DnDBeyond ones because DnDbeyond doesn't have an easy way to pull it off

[short fiber]

Hey im new to dnd ,recently learned the basic rules and I dont have anybody to play with can anyone suggest anything so i can finally find someone to play with?

[jovial shadow]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/1070720656917938227

[hot marlin]

Hi new to dnd, I'm Incubus

[serene jolt]

#looking-for-players #looking-for-community #find-a-game

[hot marlin]

And yes, all that

[short fiber]

One of the oldest jokes in the books but u lwk look chill

[sullen ingot]

I’ve used startplaying in the past and in fact have a game I’m in on that service. We’re doing a dungeon crawl

As for free games, the channels linked by others are good to look in

[jovial shadow]

I think the new base Monk is an improvment over 2014, but I am still bummed about Stunning Strike's modification

[hot marlin]

I've often said that my ideal monk would be both versions in a blender.

[umbral girder]

Level 20 Christmas one shot vs Cr31 Santa! The party has been too naughty and now Santa is involved.

[hot marlin]

CR 31?! CR is supposed to stop at 30. Run

[jovial shadow]

There are CR 50 monsters

[umbral girder]

Not in 5e which is this chat is for

[umbral girder]

Some could say it’s a Christmas miracle

Might use Winter Eladrin as Santa’s elves

[crimson gulch]

I have Made a few cr 35 gods

[umbral girder]

Maybe replace their Sorrow aura with the Jolly aura from Spring Eladrin

[hot marlin]

So just so those who don't know know: CR 30 is the limit. It does not mean no creature can be more powerful than the tarrasque and aspect of Tiamat. It means you can make a creature ten times stronger but it's still CR 30

[jovial shadow]

The discussion is now about CR 30+ non 5e monsters, so what's the difference?

That's rude

[umbral girder]

Yeah Tiamat’s avatar is basically two Cr30 monsters back to back

[hot marlin]

In the same way, attributes cap at 30.

[rough basalt]

I now own Strixhaven

My dnd games are doomed

[turbid vessel]

For me, character playlists. Music is a really good mood setter for me so I'll make playlists for my characters that remind me of them

[turbid vessel]

Have we considered: 5 CR30 creatures that are each limb of the creature, like a power ranger megazord

[umbral girder]

Great for handling Tiamat’s avatar at least

Just don’t make the mistake of taking that to Sigil

[jovial shadow]

Anyway back to the Monk. I know they took took away Stunning every attack, because some complained it was broken and I guess there was some complaints that players were using up all of their Ki points to make a successful strike, but it seems drastic to make stunning only one attack per turn. My thing is, if players can't control how they spend Ki, that's on them.

[umbral girder]

Technically we already have a mountain size robot stat block already

It’s like Cr25

[eager marsh]

Monk being able to make up to 4 stun attempts every turn was infact problematic for boss encounters and if the target didn't have legendary resists (all of which could be burned on 1 turn mind you) or great con saves, the Monk was able to invalidate multiple targets per turn as well. The change to Stunning Strike, like Divine Smite, was healthier for game design

[jovial shadow]

Now if you attempt to stun, it has to be tried on your first hit, in order for you to take advantage of the Stunned condition, which only lasts until the start of your next turn. Although the upside, is if it is a monster everyone is fighting, then they gain benefits of the monster being stunned.

[eager marsh]

Every monster is a monster everyone is fighting unless you split the party

[jovial shadow]

So Stunning has basically been turned into a support of sorts

[eager marsh]

It always was

It's just less oppressive than it used to be and the entire base class chasis for Monk was gratly improved anyways so it wasa fair adjustment

[hot marlin]

Though again, who the hell makes an encounter against a single boss, with low con no less?

[eager marsh]

if the boss is a legendary creature (resists and actions) generally their secondary targets matter significantly less no matter what. Stunning the boss locks out their legendary actions too

[jovial shadow]

I also find it interesting that the developers also gave you a consolation benefit for saved Stunning strike, by forcing the monster's movement to be halved and you get advantage on your next attack. So there's that at least.

[humble cairn]

"Best" is subjective, but I like using a sentence or two written in the "Personality" section as a guideline. Basically you want a behavioral and emotional default that you can reset yourself to whenever your character isn't doing anything else. For example, a character who is nervous and insecure and perpetually bites their lips and mumbles when they speak are some keywords that you can use to really start to embody your character. Just default to a few important concepts in what I call your "character select screen standing animation" as a baseline.

[eager marsh]

They did that as a fair adjustment so the feature feels less 'bad' when your 1/turn attempt fails

its just more healthier design philosophy

[halcyon forum]

the idea of single boss encounters is very appealing narratively, so people keep trying to make those work. it would be cool if the game supported that better

[humble cairn]

"Less oppressive" also goes for the GWM and Sharpshooter changes.

Being able to Stunning Strike only once per turn also helps the Focus economy. Used to be you could waste your entire pool of resources for one chance to stun the enemy.

And now that point is never wasted.

[hot marlin]

I honestly don't see the appeal. Seeing five people ganging up on a single person is not really impressive. Unless it's, like, a giant monster. And even then, I tend to prefer to give those fights other complications

[halcyon forum]

I mean, boss battles and raids are a a staple from video games for a reason. yeah its usually one big monsters like a dragon, but there is no reason why it cant be an incredibly powerful dude

like the fantasy is that this one person/monster needs everyone in the party to attack them at the same time for them to even have a chance. its very appealing

[remote wadi]

Sharpshooter change being?

[jovial shadow]

Overall, I like the revised Monk, although I think the base AC should have started at 12 or 13 to compete with the other martials who could start the AC as high as 19 with the basic armor, shield and Dex. Sure you can ASI up, but that takes time and the highest AC you can get from that is a 19 AC (or 20 if min/max). Even with things like a ring and cloak of protection, you still wouldn't catch up, since they would also increase their Dex as well as add pluses for magical armor and shield. Deflecting attacks are only good for one attack. But the higher level you go, you become more resilient to damage spells and spells that require other ability checks, besides Dex, such as Evasion, Self Restoration, Disciplined Survivor and Superior Defense.

[hot marlin]

Not the sort of fantasy I like to be honest. For giant monsters, yes. Although I tend to add some environmental complications and other monsters (Like a parasite that lives on the tarrasque and every time the tarrasque takes damage some more of those worms are shaken out of it), but for people, I prefer more even playing fields

[remote wadi]

Disagree. Starting at 16 AC is already a good start, no armor or shield required. Being able to bump that up to 19 for no investments at level 1 is crazy

[neat yoke]

Hellox

Hi everyone!
I’m new to D&D and also new to this server.
I play with the Stranger Things: Hellfire Club starter set, but it’s in English and I’m French, so I have some difficulties.
Would anyone be willing to help me learn and understand the game better?
Thanks!

[remote wadi]

Hard to stress that enough. Getting 16 Dex and Wisdom at level 1 is (probably) very easy to obtain

[jovial shadow]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/966723268675510372

[sullen ingot]

Depending on the specific question, I may have an answer, but having rules in something other than your first language can be a pain

[sullen ingot]

I'm at 15 AC at level 4 as a Paladin. I think our monk may have higher AC than me

[neat yoke]

Yes, it's quite complicated

[remote wadi]

Having the AC be starting at 19 is huge: 1 higher AC over plate armor, needing no strength vs 15, no weight vs 65 pounds, no stealth penalty vs disadvantage on stealth

[sullen ingot]

I think maybe you replied to the wrong post, but while this edition of D&D is streamlined, it is by no means "simple"

[remote wadi]

And arguably one of the biggest ones

It being free vs needing 1500 gp

[hot marlin]

Oh yeah, idea for that parasite: It's some sort of skin-burrowing worm that lives in the tarrasque. If it takes slashing, piercing or acid damage, 2d4 of them fall off, roll initiative and immediately attack whatever is near in the hopes of laying their eggs inside. If it takes cold, bludgeoning, radiant, necrotic or thunder damage, the worms instead seek to burrow out and appear next turn. The tarrasque is immune to poison and fire, but the worms are vulnerable to it. Every worm is CR 5.

[remote wadi]

And the only "drawback" is not being able to use a shield

[neat yoke]

Sorry, I went to the wrong salon.

[hearty bay]

I have been wondering how to flavor a PoTGiant barbarian using a half plate. I feel like armored barbarians really give me a berserker vibe

[remote wadi]

So no. Making the base AC 13 for Monk would be a grave mistake. That's the equivalent of a studded leather armor +1 that also adds Wisdom modifer, weighs nothing, and costs nothing

[sullen ingot]

You mean "+15% dodge" for no reason would be too good?

[remote wadi]

Well, the AC for Monk's Unarmored Defense already is 10 + Wis and Dex modifiers

So hitting 16 is pretty easy

[sullen ingot]

I know. It was joke

[remote wadi]

If it were 19, it would be a direct upgrade to the best heavy armor in the game

[hot marlin]

Remember that monks have a ton of other defensive tools that make giving them even more AC very strong

[sullen ingot]

I know. Our monk in my in-person game has this thing where they just roll a die and ignore some (limited in some way I assume?) damage

[remote wadi]

One for fall damage, another for ranged attacks that can be caught to catch and toss them back

[hot marlin]

That's probably their deflect feature

Actually as of 2024, their deflect also applies to melee attack, and later to spell attacks.

[sullen ingot]

Probably. I'm not the monk, or the DM, so I just get to smile and nod

(Or play with my own math rocks. That's usually what happens)

If I have the money for one D&D beyond purchase (DMG, Monster Manual, Adventures in Faerun, or the new Eberron book), which one do I get? I'm not currently using magic items or options from any of them, but I'm trying to have digital of everything I have physical.

[hot marlin]

If you're planning to DM, the Monster Manual or DMG seem like higher priorities

[snow agate]

Honestly just sounds like a waste of money if you already have the books also

[hot marlin]

Wait, you have everything physical? Why would you buy digital then?

[humble cairn]

Lost the -5/+10 power shot feature, gained a half ASI, gained melee range firing with no Disadv, kept everything else. The power attack (-5/+10) feature of both GWM and SS were what I considered "oppressive" as basically they were considered necessary, like "you might as well not even play a martial without these" necessary. Which was just awful for build concept variety.

[raw ocean]

Interesting

[empty thicket]

i like that risk benefit ngl, feel sad theytake it off in 2024

[hot marlin]

Physical is the superior format honestly. Digitally buying books just results in your ownership of them being at the mercy of someone else.

Now, for ease of access and in the interest of archiving, you might want PDFs. I scan my books for my own usage. Since I have a professional quality book scanner, it's all easy and quick. Of course, you can't share them but it's perfectly legal if you keep it for your own use

[jovial shadow]

"At the mercy of someone else" That's true, but there are enough lawyers in the US ensure you keep what you are paid for or at least is compensated.

[keen valve]

An extra 10 ft does a lot than you know.

And doubled it gives 80.

[reef tundra]

10 feet can make a big difference

It’s very good for keeping out of reach of melee enemies

[scenic zinc]

No, there aren't. The terms of service for these sites have been held up.

[reef tundra]

And that extra square if movement after recovering from being prone doesn’t hurt

[celest ether]

Is conjure celestial not even a celestial anymore? Like why it was an individual sumon not a bunch of sumons

[scenic zinc]

If you get banned from dndbeyond and only "own" the books there, you've lost access.

[empty thicket]

welp, if you are in a scenario that enemies can move 30, yeah, those 10 extra are a secured safe distance
Later when enemies can move more than that. You are cook

[celest ether]

What is left to summon anymore?

[reef tundra]

Well the individual summon is a celestial so technically, you are still summoning a celestial

[humble cairn]

Do you know about Summon Celestial?

[celest ether]

It's a pilar of light

In 2024

[reef tundra]

Not many humanoid enemies surpass that, iirc. The only ones I think that can are berserkers

[jovial shadow]

How so? They can just walk the 10 feet to get to you, if they haven't hit you already with an oppoutinity attack for moving out of their reach in the first place?

[scenic zinc]

Conjure & Summon do two different things.

[humble cairn]

There's a different spell called Summon Celestial, rather than Conjure.

[celest ether]

Aaa

[reef tundra]

But you’re 40 feet away from them when they most often have only 30 feet of speed

[celest ether]

Sorry then

[reef tundra]

They can dash, but then you can dash and you’re 80 feet away

[celest ether]

I got confused

I almost had an stroke

[reef tundra]

And every time the both of you dash, the space between you and them increase by 20 each time

[celest ether]

I love sumons

[empty thicket]

indeed and having in anything 10 extra feet help, its 5ft more of climbing or not good terrain movement

[reef tundra]

Exactly

[celest ether]

Guys do you feel it's ok to reflavor skeletons and zombies as animals?

I like animal sumoning

[humble cairn]

So get Summon Beast?

[sullen ingot]

Because I don't want to carry all the books all the time and it keeps up with errata

[empty thicket]

and dont having to use some spells like Longstrider, still can mix both and more and you would get a giga mobile unit

[celest ether]

Yes but it's only one and that's sad.

[sullen ingot]

How would you get banned from dndbeyond?

[jovial shadow]

Same thing i was thinking

[celest ether]

A single huge magestic angel is fine but summoning a single dog feels sad.

[knotty basin]

Real

The summon spells were handled so badly in 2024

RIP shepard druid

[reef tundra]

Rip

[celest ether]

A fix for the shepard druid that would make it work with animate dead and reflavor them as beasts.

[reef tundra]

Although, it is a little nicer for action economy

Now it isn’t one player taking ages on their turn as they command an army

[hot marlin]

By having some sort of moderator click the "ban" button

[jovial shadow]

I remember Crawford or one of his employees explained the reason why summons/conjure changed from 2014. Seems like they were for a good reason. I am not a spell caster, so I don't have any skin in the game

[jovial shadow]

That's only banning from the forum. The forum is not all of D&D Beyond

[reef tundra]

I’m a DM, so I do. I far prefer when a player doesn’t have to take the turns of like five animals on their turn and take forever

[celest ether]

I agree that the sumos should be fewer. But sumoning a single sad dog isn't the solution. It works for celestial or demonic sumoners but for beasts it feels too sad.

[humble cairn]

I have played with people using Conjure Animals and it was kind of a cluster for combat speed.

[jovial shadow]

Why does it have to be a dog? lol

[olive wasp]

Action pool of 50 summoned rats

[celest ether]

Because it makes it sadder

[reef tundra]

I’d rather die /lhj

[jovial shadow]

That's actually easy. I think the DMG address this. Swarm/mobs or something like that?

[olive wasp]

Never underestimate the rat feast

[celest ether]

Sumon beast sumons a chihuahua it's not even medium

[reef tundra]

Yeah I feel like commanding a swarm wouldn’t be too bad for action economy

[olive wasp]

Have you considered each rat has their own personality and desires. They are all unique and have names. I will consider each one an individual (as they are) this is ratrick, ratricia, ratthew, ratatouille…

[jovial shadow]

ha!

[reef tundra]

Having a name will not spare them from my wrath

[sullen ingot]

Considering I don't use the forum, that won't be an issue

[olive wasp]

NO RATTHOLOMEW THE FIFTEENTH, THE ONE WITH A BIRTHMARK ON HIS FRONT LEFT FOOT HOW COULD YOU

[reef tundra]

I’m a fiend warlock, I needed the temp HP

[olive wasp]

He was imperative to so much

[jovial shadow]

It's not my argument it was the other persons

[woven flint]

I just don't get attached to familiars, personally 😎

[scenic zinc]

By breaking the terms of service.

[olive wasp]

At least we have ratalia, she’s got a bow because she’s a diva

[woven flint]

I'm a cold-hearted evil man

[jovial shadow]

The Warlock seems like it would be great, but I just don't like how the spells work

[reef tundra]

Okay I can’t get myself to kill Ratalia, she may live

[reef tundra]

I love it so much

[hot marlin]

Well you could, and if they die just summon them again.

[reef tundra]

But I can see how it’s not for everyone

[olive wasp]

Yes! One of the 50 rats has been pardoned! A huge victory for rat country

[glossy otter]

and here I thought you were supposed to be good

[woven flint]

I'm at most, Neutral aligned

I'd say..
Hmmm...
Lawful Neutral

[glossy otter]

then who was the embodiment of good in the server?

[woven flint]

Sigh
Fine, you caught me...
I'm the good boy 😔

[reef tundra]

I knew you were bluffing!

I’m the neutral queen of this place 💅

[woven flint]

I'm the Good, you're the Neutral and Incubus is the Evil!

[reef tundra]

The good, The bad, and the pretty

[woven flint]

Sorry, Alaster, he's literally a fiend that Incubus is.

[eager marsh]

So being a fiend makes them evil huh? Seems like you're stereotyping there smh

[woven flint]

I'm not!
They're literally born in evil planes!

[snow agate]

i have learned the real flaw of playing dnd

quit overthinking just do stuff xd

[woven flint]

The solution:
Kill everyone

[snow agate]

chad barbarian gameplay

[reef tundra]

Agreed

[snow agate]

"erm but i want skills and options and versatility" have you tried smushing people with a hammer

[honest kite]

I had this idea. So tell me this is a good idea get a bunch of Legos and mini figures parts and host a Lego D&D game. Would you play a game like this?

[umbral girder]

If I remember correctly LEGO did that once

[snow agate]

sounds expensive but its not a bad idea for stuff like terrain

[umbral girder]

With a bunch of DnD YouTubers. GinnyDi was one of them.

[eager marsh]

Stereotyping by where someone is born now huh? You're just digging a deeper hole now

[woven flint]

I LITERALLY handed him a holy symbol one day and he started burning!

[eager marsh]

'Holy Symbol' means nothing because gods to good and evil both exist. Divine magic hurts everyone.

[jovial shadow]

Oh I thought you two were just joking...

[eager marsh]

We are (this is a bit)

[burnt valley]

Great Wyrm Time Dragon :)))))))

[olive wasp]

Does Santa obliterate me even if I’ve been so so so so so good

Cr 31 means cookie ratio 31

[hot marlin]

Stupid monster idea: Apomps, father, son and holy spirit to the Demodand (actually a mentioned character in D&D lore): The fiend that created the demodand species and still lives in the realm of Agathys has since earned minor godhood. He has a numerological obsession with the number three, three heads, six arms and six legs, and all of his abilities are about targetting three people, or taking three actions or casting three spells, or reacting if a single creature attacks him three times in one turn.

[honest kite]

Yeah but I want to do it if people would play it.

[snow agate]

i dont live in your neighborhood so i cant answer this question

[hot marlin]

Let's see... Maybe if a creature attacks him three times in one turn, the third attack automatically misses and he has a special reaction?...

[olive wasp]

I also don’t live in your neighborhood but I’d move it ever so slightly with my mind powers every 30 minutes but it’ll be so slight that you would question it even happened

But it’s there, I’m there spiritually

[hot marlin]

Three heads, each head has a third eye on the forehead, but he can only keep one of those three third eye open at a time unless he's in mythic phase, one of them gives him true sight, one of them creates an antimagic cone, one of them just has a laser?...

[small jacinth]

I got a new set of dice and they feel weighted I rolled 30 times and this was the result

1 -2
2 -1
3 -1
4 -1
5 -1
6 -0
7 -2
8 -1
9 -1
10 -1
11 -0
12 -1
13 -1
14 -3
15 -2
16 -2
17 -2
18 -4
19 -1
20- 3

Do they also seem weighted to anybody?

[hot marlin]

Holy visual nightmare.

[humble cairn]

True Sight is kind of boring, how about Foresight?

[olive wasp]

I mean 30 times isn’t enough to really know but if you feel there’s weight then trust your judgement

[hot marlin]

Just get that die in salt water and see how it floats

[unkempt roost]

Dark vision yay or nay

[hot marlin]

Great idea, done!

[unkempt roost]

Imo dark vision is pretty poorly implemented

[hot marlin]

So let's call them the head of corruption (that's the head where that gives him the laser), the head of spite (the head that gives him the antimagic) and the head of consumption (the head that gives him foresight).

[silver goblet]

Why are some subclasses just not available on dnd beyond anymore? such as the astral self subclass for monks

[small jacinth]

How many times should I roll

[rough basalt]

It's on ddb

Nothing in 5e officially class/Subclass wise provided for player use isn't available on ddb

Only some monster books with player options that were discontinued since they combined them into MotM which remastered said player options

[hot marlin]

Rolling is a horrible way to check if a die is loaded. Get a glass, fill it with salt and warm water and see how it floats

[jovial shadow]

I believe 100 is the standard

[olive wasp]

Honestly for a fair sample you would need to roll a lot. I would trust the incubus method I suppose

[small jacinth]

This isn’t the case but I also want to test a metal set

Is there a website that I can use to mark how many times I’ve rolled what

[olive wasp]

The problem is that you can only really establish causation with a lot more data points because out of 30 rolls you could’ve just gotten lucky. I mean it happens and there are 20 options to pick

(Huge nerd I know)

[small jacinth]

Aren’t we all

[olive wasp]

I try to hide it with my general obliviousness and lack of understanding

[silver goblet]

but we have a character only a few months old that does have that subclass. the issue is that now, when we go to the same spot to pick our subclass, we cant find that one

[rough basalt]

I'm guessing you or they had someone content sharing and no longer do

[silver goblet]

ohhhhh that makes so much sense, thank you so much

[olive wasp]

Do yall ever use music as inspiration for your characters? Like sometimes I hear a song and I envision a character that I wanna make

I know it’s more common to take from like other sources I’ve done it too but I was wondering if anyone else made a character based off a song and if so which one

[snow agate]

yes

[olive wasp]

Expound

[rough basalt]

Ye

[olive wasp]

You as well 🫵👁️👁️ expound

[snow agate]

no

[olive wasp]

Aw :(

[woven flint]

What

[modern garnet]

Off topic, but i've procured an artifact of the realms. A Witcher universe cookbook

[halcyon forum]

yes. A fiend warlock with the entertainer background

[olive wasp]

What song did you use

[hot marlin]

OK so... We agree that Apomps, the creator of the demodand species should be CR 30, right? In theory being part of the original fiend species and then ascending further into demigodhood through the creation of another fiend species... It makes sense for someone like that to be CR 30...

Or maybe 29, just to showcase that he is still slightly less powerful than the big players like Asmodeus

[halcyon forum]

Unlikely you ever heard of it but its "Schandmaul- Der Spielmann"

[celest ether]

Why is the server not Christmas themed?

[hot marlin]

Why would it be?

[jovial shadow]

wow

[celest ether]

Because it's 25?

But do you guys like the idea of reflavoring raise death as animals?

[lavish flame]

what do you mean by that

[knotty basin]

I mean, it needs human corpses? Doesn’t it?

It’s kinda hard to reflavor like that

[celest ether]

They're used as a material components the actual thing id as summon I think.

[knotty basin]

Raise dead revives someone

Are you sure you’re looking at the same spell I am

[celest ether]

Ah sorry animate dead

[knotty basin]

I mean, if you flavor it that way, what about the corpses

[arctic viper]

i have started a dnd server that i want to grow nothing that will ever watch this server but a place i want to get bigger than myself ita called the golden ward guild if anyone wants to join dm me or if you know a way i can grow dm me

[celest ether]

They get consumed for the sumon of the dogos

[celest ether]

I think you can't announce here

@knotty basin Like the cicle of life a corpe is consumed so new life grows ✨️

[earnest canyon]

#looking-for-community You can post a server there.

[celest ether]

If it was a videogame I imagine a bear eating the corpse as he gets summoned.

[lyric urchin]

Hey so me and my friends have never played DnD before.
I’ll be DM for our first game.

There’s 4 players (not including me), is this a good amount to not have to ‘balance’ any enemies?

[hot marlin]

It's a hidden assumption, the idea that just because it's the 25th, the norm would be to theme the server for christmas and that there would naturally be a specific reason that people would not follow the norm rather than have a reason to follow it

[celest ether]

What?

[hot marlin]

What was unclear?

[celest ether]

Idk, but Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 ❤️

[hot marlin]

What I mean is that the question "why is the server not themed for christmas" is a flawed question. Generally you don't need a reason not to, you need a reason to

[celest ether]

I jist said it's 25

[hot marlin]

It's related in concept to the burden of proof and the impossibility of proving a negative, but somewhat distinct

Of course, as granny Incubus used to say "The weak ask why, the strong ask why not"

[celest ether]

Was your granny an incubus?

[hot marlin]

But granny Incubus was a terrible person.

[lyric urchin]

Well the 25th is Christmas so it might be Christmas themed

[hot marlin]

I can neither confirm nor deny

[celest ether]

Maybe it was her stablock.

[celest ether]

Being weak is less burdensome than being strong tbh.

[woven flint]

Hello, Incubus, beloved friend!

[worn basin]

I got the new artificer book

[woven flint]

You may be a fiend, but you're still awesome

[hot marlin]

I am neither of those things

As having an aura that awes people around you would be fiendish.

[celest ether]

You're not a friend?

[hot marlin]

That yes, it's my alleged fiendishness that I vehemently deny

Not to be confused with friendliness

[celest ether]

Aren't incubus fiends?

Are you the celestial version?

A sheep person can be celestial or fey

[olive wasp]

Baaabarian

[raw ocean]

Opinion on characters having combat related flaws if related to backstory?

[crimson gulch]

I hate that personally

[severe rampart]

definitely interesting to see how they implement that in combat

[raw ocean]

Let me think of an example