dnd-discussion

[shut path]

i wouldn't make it to third level but if i did scout

[civic palm]

If I made it to 3rd level, I’d go for divination.

I could really use the ability to see the future tomorrow.

[pallid haven]

I have mistakenly read that as deviation

[shut path]

no just skinny

[civic palm]

Wizard, not Bard.

[pallid haven]

You'll just get one shotted because You're skinny

[shut path]

i do get food poisoning pretty easily

that would imply i have low con

[burnt valley]

Yes

[shut path]

i think the only stat that's above average for me would be dex

[civic palm]

What is this “food poisoning” you speak of? (A person that’s never been sick from a meal)

[shut path]

one time i left a crunchwrap supreme in a hot car for an hour and was violently ill for like fourty eight hours

[pallid haven]

Food poisoning?

[shut path]

food poisoning is getting sick from eating food

might be an american term

[civic palm]

You could’ve achieved the same effect by eating the crunchwrap supreme immediately.

[shut path]

truth

i can't eat taco bell at all anymore, even just thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach

[remote wadi]

Well, I would want to pick Life Domain Cleric. It would be really hard to imagine me trying to pick something else

[shut path]

same thing with deep dish pizza but not so much anymore

[civic palm]

I’m getting an actuary certification, so being a divination wizard makes the most sense.

[remote wadi]

I guess I'm that committed to being a healer. But hey, even in games, someone's gotta do it. It's why medics are invaluable

[civic palm]

Using ma(th)gic to predict the future.

[shut path]

there's a solid chance i'd also just be a shitty generic fighter

[shut path]

because i have a bastard sword thats the only reason i say this

[civic palm]

Commoner, guard.

[pallid haven]

I heard that tacobells can hurt your stomach so much

[remote wadi]

For irl, the main times I use math are for probability calculation. Specifically so I can see how badly Lady Luck screwed me over

[pallid haven]

I suck at math

[shut path]

12 strength, 14 dex, 10 con, 10 int, 8 wisdom, -2 charisma

[remote wadi]

For example, the past 20 damage rolls i made, only 2 have been above the average

Even worse, those 2 were 4s on a D8

[shut path]

wait hold on let me roll a d20 for a life check

[civic palm]

I think I have somewhere between a 13 or 15 in intelligence.

[shut path]

4

[lost bramble]

Hello I am new and looking for people to play with sometimes ((:

[remote wadi]

#looking-for-players

[civic palm]

Best of luck, Aurora.

[shut path]

i mean i might have a higher int because i have an above average iq and i'm generally more educated than most people, but i'm also just an idiot sometimes

[remote wadi]

It feels like every new person asks that question. I don't know why...

[civic palm]

Start wisdommaxxing.

[shut path]

wait

so obvious eddie hall and thor bjornson have the highest strength stats in the world

but who has the highest charisma stat in the world

[remote wadi]

I think i can finally be the dwarf cleric that I played in my first one shot

[civic palm]

Short.

Highest charisma ever, or highest currently?

[remote wadi]

Crying in 5'6 right now

[shut path]

both

[idle oar]

Gentle reminder about server rules - please be careful with the "highest charisma" discussion

[civic palm]

Ah, apologies.

[remote wadi]

Chat, I think I'm too deep into the discussion earlier about the 9th level spell

[still plover]

Yes.

[remote wadi]

I was thinking for quite some time about the first 3 people I would resurrect

[still plover]

But I think you could make a good little story out of it if you had a mind to write it down?

[remote wadi]

And I think my choices would be pretty good, all things considered

[civic palm]

Discounting politicians then… highest charisma would probably be Shakespeare. His plays are still performed to this day.

[remote wadi]

And no. They aren't the ones to cause havoc. Specifically, I aim to make things better, not worse

[civic palm]

Walt Disney is probably up there though.

[shut path]

i think elvis

it'd have to be elvis

[civic palm]

A fair pick.

[remote wadi]

I unfortunately am not one to write stories. I try my best to have good wisdom, but often word things poorly and I am not someone really loved irl for reasons often outside of my control

[shut path]

what was the question?

[remote wadi]

Someone asked in chat which spell would you take if you had a 9th level spell that you could cast with a 1 year cooldown/once a year

And I chose True Resurrection

[shut path]

true polymorph

i'd choose true polymorph

[civic palm]

With or without material components?

[remote wadi]

Let's just say many of us have deeply missed at least one person in our lives that were simply gone too soon

[still plover]

Don't sell yourself short. Practice, little and often. When you get a minute, scratch something down, a line, a paragraph.

[remote wadi]

Id assume with. And wish is banned

[shut path]

i'm still young i haven't lost anyone very important to me

[shut path]

plus with the chance to never be able to cast it again idk

[civic palm]

In only 5th edition?

[remote wadi]

I'm not bothered with selling myself short. If anything, i make texts like these of me drifting off, thinking about just how much of a positive impact you could make on the world

[shut path]

but think about this, with true polymorph you'll be able to make yourself physically the dream version of yourself every year, meaning you'd also be functionally immortal

[remote wadi]

Well, if epic boons existed, that could be possible too

[civic palm]

Honestly Gate would be my pick.

[shut path]

you can also just create creatures and people if you dont want to do this, that's sick

you could be the greatest and least available plastic surgeon in the world

[remote wadi]

But think of it. Every year, a body is cremated and you bring someone back in a new and better body

Walt Disney
Billy Kametz
Mikayla Raines

Satoru Iwata

[shut path]

i'd bring back elliot smith

and maybe jan zizka for the lols

[remote wadi]

Those 4 above would be great as well

Because they meant so much to others and to myself as well

[civic palm]

Yeah you guys enjoy that. I’ll just pop over to a reality where I picked a different spell.

[shut path]

casting gate and then just going to actual faerun

[remote wadi]

Well, that means leaving this reality behind. And to say that people would miss you is an understatement

[shut path]

where you become a wizard and then get more ninth level spells

[civic palm]

For a year. No different from visiting another country for a long time.

[remote wadi]

Well, no. In this hypothetical scenario, you get only one 9th level spell. Nothing more

[shut path]

so even if someone went to faerun and became a wizard they could only have a single ninth level spell?

[remote wadi]

But no. I'm not really going to bother with a novel. I prefer to speak my mind in places like here. Like thinking out loud

[remote wadi]

You wouldn't have access to the class, most likely. You would just get the spell

[civic palm]

That’d depend on if you could even use the native magic beyond casting the one spell. You might just remain a commoner.

[shut path]

the thought of returning home and eldritch blasting the neighbor's dog

the idea of picking gate and then going to the femboy dimension

[civic palm]

That said, it’s open for a whole minute right? What’s stopping me from opening a gate, grabbing some loot, and leaving?

[shut path]

picking gate and going to the gas station

[remote wadi]

But yeah. It's easy to be someone who can destroy or have powers for themselves

But for better or for worse, I like being a healer of sorts. Someone who can take back what was taken from us too soon

[shut path]

yeah i'm still picking true polymorph

[civic palm]

Valid decisions.

[remote wadi]

And you can do that every single year... could you imagine what damage you could reverse in 5 years? 10? 20?

[shut path]

turning the number one opp into a quarter so you can buy a gumball

picking true polymorph just to shave your legs

[remote wadi]

I don't know if it's just life or it being near the end of 2025, but it's hard not to look back at what is gone

And the imagination of being able to give back what was lost. Not just for your own sake and glory, but so others can be grateful for what is returned and hopefully think to appreciate who you have before it's too late

[shut path]

i mean true polymorph is kind of loose with the rules, couldn't you theoretically turn a corpse into the living version of that person

[pallid haven]

Driving in my car after a beer

[shut path]

picking true polymorph just to turn my empty beer can into a full one

[remote wadi]

This is what I mean by going too deep in the hole. It's been over an hour, but it's a very deep topic to think about

[pallid haven]

Hey that bump is shaped like a deer

[shut path]

picking true polymorph to make my macaroni and cheese less salty

[remote wadi]

But alas, reality comes flooding back. I can barely change life around me, let alone have the power to change my own life for the better

[shut path]

i daydream all day every day, i'm used to the feeling

[pallid haven]

What is happening?

[remote wadi]

Snapped back to the reality that I unfortunately cannot cast True Resurrection

[fiery nimbus]

So, casting a spell just requires you to have your material component in hand right?
But there are very few spells that restrict where the magic actually come from

[shut path]

i'd pick power word kill just to smite jack doherty

[pallid haven]

Are we off topics now?

[lost bramble]

Anyone play magic also?

[fiery nimbus]

nah, nothing beats a good martial

[civic palm]

“The target is limited in the actions it can perform by the anatomy of its new form, and it can’t speak or cast spells.” 2024 polymorph.

[remote wadi]

I just find it a little ironic about myself, I guess. I genuinely do love helping, except that it often goes unnoticed. Or that I cannot help myself, with others being unable to or largely not caring. And some others on the severe end of wanting me to struggle and fail

[shut path]

i don't know 2024 rules

[fiery nimbus]

it's not true polymorph though

[shut path]

but yeah thats what i was gonna say

[civic palm]

It is. 2024, true polymorph.

Sorry for not clarifying.

[shut path]

i'm using 2014 rules

[civic palm]

Fair.

[fiery nimbus]

Not really, you may change a corpse into a person of the same species
but that doesn't mean they will be that person

[lost bramble]

I play as a wizard, but I should’ve been a warlock in the beginning

[remote wadi]

It kind of makes you wonder. There are a few people in my life who I can't forget that have changed my life, for better or for worse

But how can I give what I got and make a meaningful positive impact people will remember and love?

[pallid haven]

Necromancy?

[fiery nimbus]

im talking about true polymorph...

[pallid haven]

oh...

[shut path]

imagine using true polymorph and just turning some dude you don't like into a pair of jordans

[pallid haven]

Now that's evil

[fiery nimbus]

I don't have to imagine, this trope is so common im pretty sure you can find it 500 years in the past

[shut path]

it's arguably the most broken ninth level spell

[fiery nimbus]

there are weaknesses to it

[shut path]

well yeah

they all have their own weaknesses

[pallid haven]

Tell me about this polymorph weakness...

[shut path]

you have to concentrate for an hour if you want it to be permanent

[civic palm]

Concentrate for one hour straight on keeping that guy as a pair of jordans.

[shut path]

and you cant turn any object into a creature unless the object is bigger

[fiery nimbus]

caster has to hold concentration for the full duration for it to take an effect
thing you animated with this spell act on their own accord but are friendly in relation

[pallid haven]

Really a pair of Jordans?

[civic palm]

Also they’d get a save if it isn’t willing, based off of your save DC.

[shut path]

so that you could step on the opps

[remote wadi]

The comedic side of me would just be laughing

But there's always that side of me that feels like it's so much potential wasted

[fiery nimbus]

People being turned into things is a story about as old as humanity itself

[civic palm]

If I were to use true polymorph on a pile of Lego, would it just do one Lego or the whole pile?

[shut path]

yeah but almost every human doesn't have above like 12 wisdom

[fiery nimbus]

also you would technically need 2 creatures to get a pair of shoes

[shut path]

you'd have to have one of those little plastic tags they use to hold the shoes together

[civic palm]

8 + prof + spell modifier though. What are you using to cast it, and what’s your modifier?

[shut path]

idk probably int

[knotty pasture]

This may be a common question asked but could flavoring justify a Dragonborn that looks and talks like a human

[pallid haven]

I wonder if they are sentient after being turned into a pair of Jordans

[knotty pasture]

Or have human features basically instead of a bipedal bulky lizard

[shut path]

i mean the main thing i'd do with it, is true polymorph myself and other willing people

[fiery nimbus]

again they are not because they can not be turned into a pair of Jordans

at most into a single Jordan

[shut path]

not if the jordans are connected with one of those little plastic tags

[pallid haven]

Reminds me how painful a pile of Lego brick is

[shut path]

turn your opp into a fashionable pair of boxer briefs

[fiery nimbus]

in this case splitting them would break the spell

[shut path]

not if i concentrate the full hour first

[remote wadi]

So, you missed me talking about True Resurrection for an hour

[fiery nimbus]

and again they wouldn't be one object

[knotty pasture]

Good, glad I wasn't here

I was busy act 2ing bg3 on my second playthrough

[civic palm]

Anywho, good night gamers.

[fiery nimbus]

"The transformation lasts for the duration or until the target dies or is destroyed,"
breaking the link would count as destroyed

[shut path]

after the full duration it's permanent

[remote wadi]

Probably. It definitely is a huge thing to think about, being able to resurrect whoever you want. You could revert so much damage

[knotty pasture]

Yeah uh I don't want to be part of it

[remote wadi]

I gotcha

[pallid haven]

Are we still talking about Jordans here?

[shut path]

and if i couldn't turn the opps into a pair of jordans

like i said, a fashionable pair of boxer briefs instead

anyways i'm going now

[hot forum]

Hey i have core rulebook I, ive dabbled and played loosely, i have since doing that "RP'd" in many a rpgs and feel i just want to play a round

[still plover]

Looking to join a game?

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[wet cradle]

What are the best bots for a dnd server am making one for my friends and want some recommendations beside avrae

[reef tundra]

There's dice maiden

[wet cradle]

Is it similar to arvae?

[reef tundra]

Yes

But it doesn't have the ability to connect to dndbeyond it's just a better dice roller

[wet cradle]

Ah okay

What about something in general

I added carl bot so far but idk i feel like there might be better options out e

A bot for ambient music during sessions stuff like that

[reef tundra]

Unfortunately I am absolutely terrible with using bots so I can't give more advice

[reef tundra]

Actually I know one for that

Jockie Music, it uses youtube

[wet cradle]

Me too ngl

I got excited about making the sevrer and now unfortunately I can’t back down

[wet cradle]

Thanks

[lone anchor]

Is it a bit odd that we don't know anything whatsoever about the 2026 release schedule? Or is that normal? Our current campaign is coming to an end, and ideally I'd start something that's been written with the 2024 rules in mind (though I know all the older 5e stuff is compatible).

They're going to be level 15 by the end of this. Which is hard to find material for (unsurprisingly).

[stray sage]

was the wall of the faithless ever actually destroyed or is that just a rumor?

[idle oar]

It's been not-mentioned in 5e leading to the assumption that it no longer is a "thing" in the current D&D edition.
Folks in #dnd-lore may have more to share about when it showed up in D&D.

[potent prawn]

Does the channel divinity ability of the oath of devotion work with smites? Like, do i get a + (charisma mod.) on my spell attack bonus?

[nova trellis]

Phantasmal force on you to relive stepping on Lego bricks.

[last heron]

Is there any non one-shot campaign podcasts/Shows in which a player played an artificer

[jovial shadow]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/538458011149271050

[potent prawn]

Do i have to ask there?

[idle oar]

It's the best channel for the topic

[crimson gulch]

Yeah they haven't announced anything yet

[restive blade]

can you use the command spell to command someone to throw their weapon to you? if its a one word command?

[knotty basin]

How, exactly

[crimson gulch]

The 2024 commands are more specific than they used to be, so no

[knotty basin]

With the 2014 rules, you can do any one word command. The interpretation is up to the DM

[restive blade]

wait- so which is it

[knotty basin]

Depends on which ruleset you are using

[restive blade]

ah yeah i see now

thats unfortunate haha

[knotty basin]

Yeah, a lot of spells aren’t written very well in the 2024 rules

[crimson gulch]

Nah, a lot of spells are written way better, command being one of them imo. The old command would grind things to a halt if someone tried too use it like sugesstion

[restive blade]

i cant tell an enemy at a edge of a cliff to backflip :(

[knotty basin]

That wouldn’t work anyways

[crimson gulch]

Nah, but you could allways shove them

[knotty basin]

Most of the low-level mind control spells don’t let you tell enemies to hurt themselves

[restive blade]

there goes my fun haha

ah well, i can always just chuck lightning at them anyways

[knotty basin]

Or shove them off cliffs

[restive blade]

true

[knotty basin]

Like urizt said

[restive blade]

what spells push enemies back? thunderwave right?

[knotty basin]

Yes that is one of them

[crimson gulch]

Thunderwave indeed

[restive blade]

does the pushing always occur even if they succeeded their saving throw?

[crimson gulch]

No they need to fail

[knotty basin]

If you’re a warlock you can take the repelling blast evocation

[tame forge]

Nah but you can tell them to stand on the edge of the cliff. Then all ya gotta do is sparta kick that SOB

Telekinetic feat works too.

[restive blade]

if you cut off any path you can order flee i guess

[tame forge]

They will only flea up to the edge and no further

[restive blade]

yeah

[limber trail]

This is also very situational. Not every combat contains readily available cliffs of death

[last heron]

Is there any non one-shot campaign podcasts/Shows in which a player played an artificer

[tame forge]

Nah cliffs of death are everywhere. I have fought on cliffs of death..... uhhhh.... hmmmm.... ya know now that I think about it I haven't fought on cliffs of death once in my 4 year old campaign.

[limber trail]

more cliffs of death in games!

they're fun

[knotty basin]

I tossed some animated armors down a spiral staircase once

Does that count?

[tame forge]

We didnt fight on cliffs of death but we did descend down ropes once and party member slipped, fell 70 feet landed on their lantern and burst into flames. It was hilarious.

[crimson gulch]

I can imagine the sound, 10/10

[tame forge]

They were the last to come down sooo we were all just hanging out then suddenly a long scream a crash and a feminine fireball.

[eager marsh]

whats a 'feminine' fireball?

[tame forge]

The result of a girl falling 70 feet and bursting into fire.

[still plover]

There's a couple mentioned here (https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/17y56ci/artificer_real_play_examples/): Caldwell in Eldenmourne, and Vldl (?) on YouTube.

Why do you ask? What do you need here?

[lost flicker]

Why do sphinx's ask riddles

[eager marsh]

Sounds like a riddle. Nice try Sphinx!

[limber trail]

...did they.... live?

[lost flicker]

Blehh, but like.. why do sphinx's actually ask riddles

[last heron]

i wanted too see how other people play artificer differently from me, while still enjoying a podcast/ show but i couldn't find any lol

thank you!

[lost flicker]

I've got a module I'm running Tuesday and there's a moment in it where they meet a sphinx that insists the party answer a riddle

why riddles?

[idle oar]

Maybe to test the creature to see if it's worthy of it's knowledge and wisdom

[eager marsh]

Why not?

[tame forge]

Barely. They failed two death saves and we just got to her in time.

[still plover]

Tradition, test of wisdom/ worthiness, it's not all sphinx really, it's some kind of cosmic dictate.

[tame forge]

All their stuff was burned and unuseable tho.

[lost flicker]

I hear this a lot, but this riddle in the module feels so simple.. I guess that makes sense though I mean half of my players have always had issues with puzzles

[limber trail]

What's the riddle?

[idle oar]

I think traditionally sphinx's guarded treasures of knowledge so testing creatures to see if they are worthy of such treasures may play into the whole riddles thing

[tame forge]

The simplest riddles are the hardest for the party to solve.

[coarse ravine]

Because I dont think you are supposed to fight a sphinx. I think they are supposed to mystical guide you if you can figure out their mystery. Or mystical steer you away.

[eager marsh]

puzzles for elementary students being necessary for the average D&D player is a longstanding meme and truth mind you

[still plover]

Sometimes it can be a test of manners. An evil creature might take it as a prompt to attack or get excessively sly. A party that take the challenge in good faith even if it stumps them could still pass, if that's what the sphinx cares about.

[lost flicker]

"You've come to meet me at my temple,
And I'll give you all of it that you ask for.
Yet no matter how much of it you take,
You'll always leave with less than before
What is it?
"

The answers Time

[eager marsh]

that you ask for I assume.

[lost flicker]

That's fair, it's so funny cuz it's such a simple riddle, with multiple written in ways to succeed, but then there's still even a result for how to give the players the information if they still fail the riddle

[lost flicker]

That's right, my baddd

[coarse ravine]

||Answers||

[still plover]

The other question I'd ask if hit with a sphinx riddle is "why this riddle?" Like, what does it relate to in our past, present or future? Is it something the sphinx needs us to consider going forward?

[eager marsh]

riddles are both fun and stupid because almost all of them technically have multiple applicable answers but the asker arbitrarily decides which one works

[lost flicker]

It also- I want to note -says that she gives them a bonus reward if they're also respectful to her

[still plover]

Jolly good.

[jovial shadow]

I don't join fantasy games for riddles or puzzles. If we can't just roll our intelligence or Wisdom checks then I want no part of it

[austere field]

What is a good race and class for a beginner? Just want to have fun and mess with party members

[eager marsh]

Ol' reliable: Human Fighter.

[knotty basin]

Any

[coarse ravine]

You want to mess with party members?

[austere field]

Yea my friends

[coarse ravine]

Firbolg for invisibility

[eager marsh]

Any would be factually incorrect. Any full spellcaster is less than beginner friendly compared to a martial class

[coarse ravine]

Just so when they are having intimate conversation. You can just be right besides them as its over lol

Can do alot with invisibility.

[knotty basin]

They’re still very easy to pick up

[austere field]

Which class ?

[still plover]

Table expectations. I can swing either way on it, personally. Some folk love it, some folk want to play the INT 20 wizard sage after they got done with a double shift at work.

[coarse ravine]

Yes bit if they specifically want to mess with their friends

[coarse ravine]

Most definitely bard or wizard or artificer. Bard is prolly more player friendly

[eager marsh]

Do not assume every new player has the same intelligence as yourself. I've watched plenty of people, even non beginners struggle with casters

[austere field]

Bard does buffs and stuff ?

[fossil hollow]

yes

[knotty basin]

Yes, and mind control/illusions

[fossil hollow]

Highly reccomend checking out the Basic Rules

[coarse ravine]

Idk what you mean by "mess with them" like just getting on their nerves etc

[austere field]

Ok

[lost flicker]

It does give you the option to investigate the surrounding area for clues

[austere field]

How about a druid bard ?

[coarse ravine]

Athena pickup a spellcaster at the very least that knows minor illusion.

Y9u can mess with them alot with minor illusion

And presdigitation.

[eager marsh]

I strongly recommend against any kind of multiclassing as a beginner

[knotty basin]

I would avoid multi classing until you understand the game better

[austere field]

K , it's my first game ever

[fossil hollow]

Definitely avoid multiclassing

[knotty basin]

I think you might want to play some kind of bard then

[coarse ravine]

I mean druids aren't the funny ima mess with your head kinda class. They do get hallucinitary terrain tho and lots of higher spells can mess with heads.

[austere field]

So a firbolg bard , for invisibility and illusions

[coarse ravine]

Other then the higher spells I mean if you are tryna just be a nuisance and do funny things to your friends. Idk if druid is tne way

[knotty basin]

Any race will work, but sure sounds interesting

[coarse ravine]

However..... if dm allows you to organize a coordinated attack with ants, squirrels etc

[knotty basin]

Ask your DM if they have the books with firbolgs

[coarse ravine]

Using speak with animals and other checks.

You can be a druid and be mischievous i guess

[austere field]

But if I tell the dm what spell I am gonna use , my friend would already know that ?

[blissful ibex]

I mean, pass without trace gives you a flat 10 to your stealth roll and hiding gives the invisibile condition now

[coarse ravine]

But id def go the arcane type route with sorcerer, bard, wizard. To mess with people's heads

[coarse ravine]

Can text it to him

[blissful ibex]

great old one warlock can also be surprisingly good for shenanigans, they get telepathy and the ability to skip verbal and somatic components on enchantment and illusion spells

[coarse ravine]

I only said artificer cause imagine making a alarm or somethin just to annoy. Them what specifically are you wanting to do

When you say "mess with my friends" what exactly do you want to do?

[coarse ravine]

Ohhhh this is actually a great idea

[austere field]

To troll them or rage bait someone during a fight

[coarse ravine]

Warlock at level 2 can do disquise self at will

[coarse ravine]

^they can always think you are a npc hahaha

If you use disquise self.

[austere field]

Btw How do you play dnd online?

[coarse ravine]

#looking-for-players
#looking-for-community

[still plover]

Some way of talking like Discord, some way of rolling dice like DDB or a virtual tabletop.

[austere field]

What?

[coarse ravine]

Specifically troll them what ya mean?

[coarse ravine]

Some way of communication.
A form of using the mechanics with the dice.

[austere field]

Idk I just thought of that randomly, what can I actually do to troll them ? 😅

[austere field]

We are using a dice bot

[blissful ibex]

like, even if you just multiclass it to level ~3, and then have a different class you pretend to be 100%

[coarse ravine]

This is a game of imagination. If you describe it im sure we can help you build it

[blissful ibex]

still gets you 2 second level pact slots, 3 invocations, and the subclass spells and passives

[coarse ravine]

Oh that's huge

Basically your friends wouldn't know your casting spells

Illusion spells.

[blissful ibex]

It just happens XD

[austere field]

Something like , when my teammates need support i just leave them be or hide their stuff

[coarse ravine]

Def not during combat or out of combat?

[coarse ravine]

Funny shenanigans is different then hiding the stuff that makes them be able to use their character

[austere field]

During ? I'll just leave him there to suffer

[coarse ravine]

If you truly wanta be maniacal

[blissful ibex]

that's like minor illusion, invisibility, suggestion, enthrall

[coarse ravine]

Then play the cleric and everyone will think you are the healer.... then never heal

Thats awful but... if thats fun to you and your players then run it

[austere field]

I thought bout it first but we already have one

If I don't heal , she will do it instead

I chose a Ranger elf at first but many players also chose elf so i thought I'll just troll them

[coarse ravine]

Well... you can totally go gloomstalker alos to go invisible

[fossil hollow]

only to darkvision people in darkness

[coarse ravine]

Minor illusion and disquise self to trick your friends... complete sabotage to them is above my paygrade

[austere field]

What are some other ways I can troll my party members ?

[coarse ravine]

You disquise self as the bbeg

[blissful ibex]

really, those three warlock levels give you pretty much all you need XD

[coarse ravine]

Or party wants to go one way and you want to go the other way. Disquise self to act like a npc to tell your friends about how this way has tons of treasure etc.

[austere field]

Someone already picked warlock , if I pick that he will think I am just coping him

[blissful ibex]

Pick something else to start out with
then multi-class

[coarse ravine]

Illusionist wizard

Minor illusion as a bonus action.

[fossil hollow]

Anyway, i feel like this convo is better for #character-discussion

[austere field]

K

[austere field]

The problem is we are doing all the things in the same server so if I use illusion all other party members will know

And if I dm the DM there is a possibility that he will not notice

[coarse ravine]

Just talk to the dm idk... I dont sabotage my friends. But if thats fun to you

[austere field]

Now am feeling bad doing this

[nova trellis]

I may dislike ranger but Gloomstalker is generally really cool. Had some gloomstalker NPCs to mess around with. Fun enemy faction.

[coarse ravine]

Its fine to mess with their heads. I would not be taking their gear.

Thats what makes them be able to play their class. Without their focus they cant cast spells

[austere field]

I think trolling would be too much for beginners

I should play it simple

[still plover]

Good plan!

[austere field]

Dnd is so confusing 😭

But I still love this game

[nova trellis]

Double negatives and technical truths are what I do to get past other players when "lying"

[austere field]

What?

[nova trellis]

I stole a whole bunch from a shop, my own party caught me. Told me to drop what I stole. I did.....just sorta kept the cool goggles.

[nova trellis]

Double negatives and technical truths get around insight and zone of truths. You asked what's a subtle way to troll party members, thats a avenue you could go with.

[viscid chasm]

Gotta think about it, has to be a good technicality. Don't just say something that won't mean anything, though.

[serene jolt]

When your DM gives you 'homework' to put your DnDBeyond character on a physical sheet.

So you go to the nerd store, and they ran out of sheets.

So you go to the library, and they close early on the weekends.

So you just make your own character sheet on a piece of paper. It took me 2 hours. 🤣

The things I do for this game.

[fossil hollow]

You can print one out

[nova trellis]

This convo also kinda also illustrates how kind of garbo zone of truth is if your DM is really feeling spiteful.

[serene jolt]

That's what the library was for. We don't have a printer on standby.

[quaint bone]

Hello

[still plover]

Howdy. What's on your mind today?

[quaint bone]

Nothing much
Just saying hi to the server for the first time

[still plover]

Well, welcome aboard. Don't forget to check the #channel-guide for all the nooks and crannies about the place.

[raw sonnet]

The best decision that I've ever made as a DM was adding an anomaly to campaign. The anomaly basically opens portals which bring random objects and people to random places and random times. It was the best decision because now i have an excuse to put weird things into the campaign. For example i once added a village which was covered in snow in a middle of summer and it was gone the next morning.

[stark arch]

are rougs automicly thiefs ?

[raw sonnet]

No

[lapis sonnet]

nope, u can also be an assasin

[coarse ravine]

After you get the boots of elvenkind and the cloak of elvenkind.... nothing is gonna find you

[stark arch]

what kind of alightment would that make it ? evil?

[coarse ravine]

With expertise in stealth etc.

[jovial shadow]

not in this edition

[stuck shuttle]

Rogues are just the mechanical chassis, who you are outside of that is up to you

[lapis sonnet]

well all depends on who u assasinate. theres no class that makes it so u cant be good or evil, u can be whatever you want

[still plover]

I've got a rogue in mind who's a tough guy. Sure, he used to work for the local mob but he's out of that now.

[coarse ravine]

Ive seen rogues roll 33-43 stealth on average... no passive is beating that. You've officially hid from God himself

[lapis sonnet]

you can be an evil cleric and you can be a good thief

[raw sonnet]

You don't have to be evil if you kill people. You could be a good assassin, for example killing tyrants

[still plover]

Rogues also make half-decent scouts and explorers.

[stark arch]

stil ur killing a creature

[stuck shuttle]

There is only one alignment-locked subclass in the game. Every other subclass can be any alignment

[stark arch]

wat would that be ?

[lapis sonnet]

huh, which one

[still plover]

And other ideas - consider what you could put expertise in that isn't stealth or sleight of hand.

[coarse ravine]

Oath breaker?

[stuck shuttle]

Oathbreaker Paladin. You specifically need to have an evil alignment to take it.

[stark arch]

necromancer? or the avarage warlock that got a deal with a demon ?

[stuck shuttle]

Killing may be an evil action but we’re the sum of our parts in the context of how we live. A single kill won’t change your alignment but may lean it one way or another on the spectrum.

[stark arch]

kils a tyrant. despitlizes antire region into anarchy good job

[still plover]

Average suggests to me that's one on a curve. Most folk strike deals for immediate goals. Some do it because they lurve the devils. Some do it out of duress or desperation with the best of intentions.

[blissful ibex]

warlock with an imp patron they vastly outclass would be funny

[still plover]

The imp has one thing going for them, and that's the buried knowledge of magical secrets that they can't use themselves.

[blissful ibex]

so the imp smugly manipulate the warlock into doing their bidding if they want the spicy magical knowledge and is just bratty in general XD

[uncut zenith]

Kinda reminds me of that one orc in Shadow of Mordor who helps the PC in return for the PC killing all his enemies

[blissful ibex]

and the warlock is somewhat bitter and begrugingly goes along

also the imp is their familiar

[frail bobcat]

Hey im making a lvl1 fighter multiclassing into lvl2 artificer. Does anyone have anytips on what i should add or use?

[still plover]

#character-discussion , but are you sure you want that mix?

[frail bobcat]

it seems pretty cool to me and thanks for the char discusion chat

[tame forge]

Ran a Cleric of Asmodeus for a while.

[viscid chasm]

Yeah.

[nova trellis]

Morality isnt binary.

[fossil hollow]

Deadpool has always been bi

??

[umbral girder]

Actually he’s Pan. Which is more notably in the Marvel Universe

Anyway it’s because you mention him being queer and I’m guessing Moth didn’t understand what you meant by Gender Queer

[fossil hollow]

o h

my b

[uncut zenith]

One of my favorite things about him lol

Love me some pan representation

[fossil hollow]

Sorry, bit ignorant/unaware on some things when it comes to that typa stuff

Also cannot read

[umbral girder]

Dude is in love with a Skeleton.

Now we should extend that with Liches /jk

[nova trellis]

Deadpool has a fling with lady death while Thanos seethes that his love will never loves him.

[marble lion]

Pretty sad stuff, romance is tough

[jovial shadow]

Thanos doesn't deserve any sympathy at all in comics or the silver screen

[nova trellis]

He was a monster who wanted to kill most of the universe so his bone lady notices him. I think eternal NTR is well deserved.

[viscid chasm]

Thanos is evil and can never not be evil in canon iirc

[marble lion]

Its still sad. I dont have to like someone for that

[umbral girder]

If I remember correctly there is a kick starter for a book on how to handle romance in D&D.

[viscid chasm]

Haise...... HAISE....

[marble lion]

What?

[viscid chasm]

You didn't get the reference?

[marble lion]

It is a pretty broad reference but tg?

[viscid chasm]

Tokyo Ghoul, yeah

[marble lion]

Im sure they say his name twice at some point in there

[nova trellis]

He also picked a random human and decided to torture that human every year on his birthday. No reason, just ft like it.

[marble lion]

Bad to the bone

[stark arch]

hmm selling my steed as lvl 4 paladin to get some free money hmmm 🤔

[rough basalt]

I see novels and a dating sim

What you're talking about mightve come out already

[umbral girder]

Ah perhaps. I only heard of it from it’s cover artist

[rough basalt]

Tome of Endless Romance?

[viscid chasm]

No, there was a reason. It was because they had the same birthday iirc

[rough basalt]

It's one I've seen ads for, but it looked AI so never looked at it further

[viscid chasm]

Not a very good reason, but there was one.

[marble lion]

Thats evil wow

Im starting to like this thanos. If only his outfit wasnt terrible

[viscid chasm]

He has that shit on, fym?

[marble lion]

Its horrible

[nova trellis]

What a shit head.

Ah, it feels good to curse.

[umbral girder]

Ah it’s called “How to GM Romance”

[rough basalt]

Romance tracking, systems on how to handle disputes and breakups.
Amazing

10 GMillion dollars to this kickstarter

[nova trellis]

"Ha, I bet I could sell these idiots on this road I own!"

[viscid chasm]

So I can't but you can?!?! smh...

[reef tundra]

Some swear words are and aren’t allowed

[lapis sonnet]

wait so u can say the s word but u cant say l@me? 😭

[loud tendon]

Shit is not typically considered a curse word, however if people consistently use it to insult others we may add it

And please dont circumvent the language filter. Some words are blocked for very good reasons.

Also, before we get too far into it, any questions about moderation/our discord rules really belongs in #moderator-support . It is considered off topic in any other channel.

[tame forge]

Most DM's ignore that because there are hundresds of ways to run evil paladins that arent oathbreakers and hundreds more ways to play good oathbreaker paladins.

WOTC is just a little braindead on the creativity side of things.

For instance a Drow oathbreaker paladin who broke their vows to Lolth to do good.

[fossil hollow]

why not be a redemption paladin

[stuck shuttle]

I disagree, Oathbreaker fulfills a very specific niche that the flavor text explicitly states

[fossil hollow]

not all breaking your oath/changing your oath moments have to be to specifically Oathbreaker

[stuck shuttle]

In fact, WotC already thought of the possible consequences for a Paladin who break their oath, Oathbreaker is just one path, arguably the most serious path

[fossil hollow]

That sincerely sounds like a Redemption paladin to me

[tame forge]

Yes WOTC pigeon holed the class because they are braindead.

[knotty pasture]

Oathbreaker fun though 😔

[stuck shuttle]

They didn’t though? They provided alternate consequences for tenet violations

[knotty pasture]

Well, I was hoping Aura of Hate wouldn't buff enemy undead but yknow it is what it is

[dapper cloud]

I’m sure Paladins are allowed to have a crisis of faith like any religious person is allowed to.

[fossil hollow]

not sure why one subclass being specifically evil pigeonholes it

[stray atlas]

so random thought, is it frequent for gods to be associated with specific damage types?

[narrow fractal]

Is there an app for creating character sheets for dnd 2024? I wanna create a Oath of the noble Genie paladin

[reef tundra]

Also oathbreaker is meant for NPCs and can only be given to a player if the DM allows it

[fossil hollow]

We literally have Conquest for another more evil coded paladin

[reef tundra]

Specifically said in the 2014 DMG

[fossil hollow]

there is, but none that let you use Genies legally without paying

[tame forge]

That is literally the definition of pigeonhole.

[nova trellis]

You broke a oath. An oath isnt evil or good inheritantly.

[narrow fractal]

ughhh so annozing

[dapper cloud]

Not really, except maybe Radiant because…y’know, divine.

[narrow fractal]

annoying

[fossil hollow]

Oathbreaker specifically is

[stray atlas]

I've seen bits of myrkul and shar being associated with necrotic but not much else

[marble lion]

My dm ignores that as its clearly a product of the class being made as enemy

[tame forge]

In my experience this is a very commonly thrown out rule at tables.

[stuck shuttle]

Yes you’re correct. Oathbreaker Paladin explicitly has an alignment requirement regardless, because the subclass is for a specific kind of oathbreaking- that being to pursue an evil ambition

[fossil hollow]

than thats fine and good, but thats not the assumed

[knotty pasture]

Yeah same if I have a Oathbreaker in my campaign I'd house rule that to not affect enemy undead

[stray atlas]

counterpoint, what if that oath was made for the service of evil?

[knotty pasture]

You could become an Oathbreaker that way

[fossil hollow]

then you take up an oath that fits. As i said before, Conquest is pretty evil coded, and others can be twisted

[stray atlas]

e.g. they made an oath of vengeance to punish the enemies of an evil god

[knotty pasture]

Arkran the Cruel is an Oathbreaker in service of Tiamat

[fossil hollow]

... thats a Vengeance pally

[stray atlas]

and then broke said oath?

[nova trellis]

Reread oathbreaker, does specify it being evil. Kinda stupid flavortest I think but pffff, oh well.

[tawdry sentinel]

I think it's officially breaking an oath for an evil reason and personal gain

Not lol oopsie I was in a morally grey situation and forced to make a difficult decision. But more I have taken the powers bestowed to me and used them for personal gain contrary to the oath that granted them.

[stray atlas]

is breaking said oath an evil act?

[tame forge]

Right exactly my point. You play an oathbreaker paladin who broke vows to Lolth and use the oathbreaker class to hunt down and kill the drow who harm the sentient races.

[fossil hollow]

Depents on the scenario. They want to redeem themselves? Redemption paladin

[stuck shuttle]

It’s a common misconception that Oathbreaker Paladin is simply any Paladin who broke their oath. I personally blame WotC for naming it that way, since a lot of players confuse it for a general tenet violation.

[fossil hollow]

that really sounds like Redemption

[stuck shuttle]

Even if it is technically accurate

[reef tundra]

2014 oathbreaker was a product of 2014 still being influenced by the design of earlier editions

And it was made for villains and thus required being evil because villains are typically evil

[fossil hollow]

For OBs it is

An oathbreaker is a paladin who breaks their sacred oaths to pursue some dark ambition or serve an evil power. Whatever light burned in the paladin's heart been extinguished. Only darkness remains.

[reef tundra]

I say typically because I’ve seen neutral characters who were absolutely villains

[fossil hollow]

Yes, and its implied he broke his oath before serving tiamat, but we arent given much other info besides that

[stuck shuttle]

The Paladin class page actually has a specific textbox on what happens before becoming Oathbreaker. That being a change of subclass or loss of powers. Not all oath breaks lead to oathbreaker. A Paladin who broke their oath to champion a more noble cause would switch to something like Redemption.

[stray atlas]

oh also thing I've been wondering, does anything unique happen if a paladin makes an oath towards a warlock's patron?

[fossil hollow]

Ask your DM

Not all warlock patrons are evil or opposite to your oaths

[stray atlas]

ik

but I'm asking is there any type of fancy rule for that?

[tame forge]

No necessarily one who makes a dark creed to use powers of violence and hate towards their evil ex goddess

[fossil hollow]

no. Hence my initial response of ask your DM

[fossil hollow]

Vengeance paladin.

[stuck shuttle]

Then there is conquest

Or vengeance, that works too

[stray atlas]

I did not know if you were talking to me and I'm talking theory I'm not in a game

[reef tundra]

-# I love vengeance pally

[fossil hollow]

Saying any paladin who breaks their oath must be an OB is also pigeonholing

this aint BG3

[nova trellis]

The line between cleric, paladin, and warlock can be very thin. The difference is simply the type of relationship between the entity and mortal.

[fossil hollow]

You are not gaining OB status for lying once, or stealing

[stuck shuttle]

It’s like committing a crime. Not every crime deserves capital punishment. The Oathbreaker subclass is the capital punishment, so to speak.

[stray atlas]

now I wanna make a character that is a cleric, paladin, and warlock devoted to the same entity

[knotty pasture]

Bg3's ways of determining oathbreaking still miffs me off that I swore (lol) to not be anywhere as strict when it comes to Paladin oaths in games

[tame forge]

This is why it is bad being pigeon holed. Lots of cool non evil uses for the oathbreaker class and abilities. And although alignments are overwhelmingly disliked and not used by the D&D community people will still fight tooth and nail to lock oathbreaker to a system nobody even likes to begin with.

[reef tundra]

The 2024 PHB mentions about breaking an oath, and it says to just pick a different subclass or another class entirely

[knotty pasture]

But I do like bg3's way of handling Oathbreakers

[marble lion]

Its horrible

[nova trellis]

Warlock is very transactional, cleric is worship, and paladin is devotion.

[stray atlas]

I think it's cool how durge has unique lines for it though

[marble lion]

One single little thing should not break an oath

[stuck shuttle]

I feel like you’re still ignoring all the stuff about the consequences of breaking your oath before becoming oathbreaker

[fossil hollow]

they shouldnt be anyway. A player and the DM are supposed to set expectations on the tenets and their oath

[reef tundra]

I don’t like how easy it is to break and how it forces me to play in a specific way but I suppose I can enjoy the oathbreaker NPC and how you can reclaim it

[knotty pasture]

Like if you picked good over law as a result of circumstances, you can just transition into an Oathbreaker

[marble lion]

Bg3 is hair trigger nonsense with unintuitive consequences sometimes when it comes to oaths

[knotty pasture]

No need to design an evil character from the start to go Oathbreaker

[stuck shuttle]

Oh yeah BG3’s way of dealing with Oathbreaker I’m not a fan of

[fossil hollow]

Oh? You killed several children and became an Oathbreaker? Pay some money and youre good

[reef tundra]

Somehow I broke my oath of vengeance by killing enemies

[stray atlas]

reminds me of that meme where it's a barbarian just showing up in hell and saying hi to the grim reaper before getting resurrected because the barbarian dies so much

[marble lion]

Lol

Reminds me of something....

[stray atlas]

I think I get what they were tryna do with it but it does not come off well

[stuck shuttle]

I wish they could’ve done it more dynamically, but I understand why they did it. It’d probably be a lot of extra work to include a redemption sidequest, dynamic determination of what constitutes a tenet violation, etc

[knotty pasture]

Considering how bg3 is I feel like having a cheat mod installed to undo anything silly is the way to go

[nova trellis]

MY LORD DRANK WINE, NOT WATER.

[marble lion]

Its because they know damn well people will accidentally bust their oath doing fairly normal stuff

[fossil hollow]

Thats blood on your cup!

[marble lion]

I quicksave 3 times per conversation and every other step

[stray atlas]

I've always theorized that the oathbreaker knight is supposed to be the manifestation of the paladin's grief and the payment is supposed to represent what you'd be willing to give up to have your oath back

[marble lion]

Its horrible. Deleting my saves takes an hour

[knotty pasture]

Lmao I made it a habit to quick save twice in any circumstance cuz mods will legit break my characters

[nova trellis]

Its like rips on your pants, it adds character to your cup!

[reef tundra]

I once played with a DM who created a god my paladin is sworn to without telling me and had the god constantly show up and force me to do and not do things and threatened to take away my Spellcasting if I didn’t listen. I hated it

Safe to say I happily became an oathbreaker

[fossil hollow]

Away with you heretic

[knotty pasture]

That uh, sounds like Warlock stuff lol

[marble lion]

Stramge

[tame forge]

Yeah bad DM's can be a nightmare.

[stray atlas]

no idea how accurate that is

[knotty pasture]

No gods constantly pester their Paladins or any priest class about doing this or that, only Warlock patrons are this possessive

[reef tundra]

Agreed

[nova trellis]

The church will miss Grok Grok The Orphan Stomper and his generous donations!

[fossil hollow]

i mean... i posted the relevant text a while back..

[fossil hollow]

@grok, generate this guy getting beheaded

[stray atlas]

no I meant that being what they were going for

[fossil hollow]

I posted the relevant text

thats straight from the 2014 DMG

[reef tundra]

I gotta say, the lore implications are funny. how small must that god be if he has the time to constantly appear to one of his faithful to boss her around

[knotty pasture]

Maybe that god is Jergal, iykyk

[reef tundra]

I mean, there was eventually a reason but still

[stray atlas]

imagine if it was like the god of annoyance or something

[reef tundra]

It was the god of goats. So you’re not wrong

[stray atlas]

lmao

yeah that fits with goats

prolly not their intention but it's still funny as hell

[marble lion]

baaaaaa

[nova trellis]

He's a lonely scmuck who has like one church in some backwater town in the swordcoast. Give him a break, showing makes him feel important. 😔

[reef tundra]

If anyone was curious the reason was that somehow my character was secretly the goddess of death and the god was just trying to control her

[marble lion]

So was your paladin Oath of the G.O.A.T?

[nova trellis]

And the only reason the church wasnt torn down was due to a tax write off 😔

[marble lion]

Wow thats extreme

[reef tundra]

Although now that makes less sense because he did nothing to discourage her from breaking her oath

[marble lion]

Maybe the dm didnt want to push more than already

[nova trellis]

"GO ON, BREAK IT. Not that I would miss you, baka."

[reef tundra]

All the other gods must hate this one god now because now the Queen of death is just loose in the world

[umbral girder]

Wondering what I should do for my Arcane Party adventure will be

I’m guessing the quest could be to steal some very juicy knowledge of some kind

[fossil hollow]

fight vecna for copyright and censorship laws

[umbral girder]

Maybe a true name for a Demon lord

[reef tundra]

“I serve the almighty Orcus, king of unde-“
“Oh you mean Jared?”

[umbral girder]

Mainly because getting a demon’s true name gives you power over them

Although I think 2014 had it as “the demon has disadvantage in all attacks and saves against you”

[reef tundra]

Oh damn

“Oh Jared are you really gonna attack me now?”

[nova trellis]

Deck of a few things.

[umbral girder]

Also you can summon them too

[fossil hollow]

Well duh, they called your name

[umbral girder]

Already an item fun fact. Different name but same function

[tame forge]

Orcus is a litte b and all his followers should enjoy slow violent deaths filled with prolonged suffering and misery.

[umbral girder]

It’s in the Book of Many Things

[fossil hollow]

You say that like that already isnt the case for followers of Orcus

[reef tundra]

Aha jokes on you, they want death! /lhj

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, thats just normal when you want to reach Undead status

[reef tundra]

Wait a minute I’m like a demon lord, just saying my name summons me /j

[tame forge]

Jokes on them I turn then into perversions of their will. Bringing them back as servants to the Revenancers will. Undeath will be a prison, a life of servitude to a god not of their own.

May undeath serve them the same misery.

[reef tundra]

Can’t Orcus take control of any undead?

[nova trellis]

Ah, so they live in Florida.

[fossil hollow]

summon them too

woe, 3 circle casting liches upon thee

[tame forge]

Would be interesting to look into as there are multiple deities of undeath. And iirc multiple are supposed to be able to.

[reef tundra]

Imagine becoming a Lich, one of the strongest undeads, thinking you will finally have control over an empire of undead… but then you yourself become a servant

[umbral girder]

Orcus isn’t a god (not anymore) notably

[reef tundra]

IIRC his wand allows him to summon 30 of them 😭

[humble cairn]

An unassuming nerd of an arcanist is about to complete her proofs for an actual Magical Theory of Everything. She is brilliant and absolutely not an adventurer, she's just a researcher who is about to describe the formulae that will allow complete knowledge of ... Everything. No one, not even the Gods, are certain what will happen once she completes her Work, but most of them don't want to find out. Mystra and Gond may have had a hand in concealing this, perhaps, but as the Theory nears completion the rest of the gods have caught wind of it and are sending agents to put a stop to it. The party get caught up in the furor and have a chance to either stop it or help it complete.

[fossil hollow]

No, its 3

[umbral girder]

Lady is writing the King in Yellow I see.

[tame forge]

So wouldnt his powers be weaker than an actual deity of undeath?

[fossil hollow]

Yes. Thats why hes only a demonlord

[umbral girder]

How many Gods of Undeath are actually in D&D I wonder?

[humble cairn]

Is that what that is? I'm not super well versed in ... Lovecraft, is it?

[fossil hollow]

He still follows the 500 HP limit, but isnt restricted to zombie and skellies.

500 /135 (average HP of a 2014 lich) = 3.7037037037

[marble lion]

I have read the entire king in yellow book and dont exactly see a link here

[umbral girder]

Older than Lovecraft by a few decades

[tame forge]

Gotcha so when I make his undead perversions of undeath under the servitude and will of a different deity wouldnt that take precident over his pitiful will?

[marble lion]

what am i missing?

[fossil hollow]

depends. Hes known to be able to kill gods still if he bothers to do so

[tame forge]

Hauster is older than Lovecrafts work?

[marble lion]

i dont remember any part of "theory of complete knowledge counteracted by all the gods"

[marble lion]

indeed its from before lovecraft

[humble cairn]

Either way I've heard of The King In Yellow but don't actually know much about it.

[reef tundra]

Oh whoops I’m talking about 2024 wand of Orcus. Which has no HP cap

[marble lion]

king in yellow is weird. i love it but its weird

[tame forge]

Will def be wild fighting and attempting to kill orcus in our campaign.

[umbral girder]

Yeah and also Hastur isn’t even the King in Yellow. Just the guy we know was affected earliest in written history by the King in Yellow.

[marble lion]

the original work doesnt even really tell you much about the king

[humble cairn]

Crib notes version?

[marble lion]

im not sure what that is so probably not

[umbral girder]

There is even a setting the King in Yellow talks about that is even older than the King in Yellow book

[marble lion]

i think it was 6 stories and short bits between each that were very quick

[humble cairn]

Rephrase: May I get a short summary of the idea?

[fossil hollow]

dear god, how did i miss that

[marble lion]

it handles themes of insanity and strife, sometimes not mentioning the king at all, depending on the story

[umbral girder]

The idea is the King in Yellow play book makes you go crazy from reading it.
Between each chapter is a piece of the play.

The short stories are about people who come across the book and read it

And how they fall into Maddness.

[marble lion]

the play is also not actually read out in the stories. the play is "the king in yellow". its not actually the book

[reef tundra]

To be fair to you I don’t anyone would expect an item to be able to summon 30 liches

[humble cairn]

Hmm .. I'm not sure I would say my idea had similar themes.

[marble lion]

i dont think all the stories even include the book, right?

there are 2 that iirc dont

[fossil hollow]

Welp... I hope the Sunday party doesnt find Orcus with his Wand then

[umbral girder]

Good question my memory is failing me

[marble lion]

weird though the ones i dont remember it in are the ones i liked the least

[humble cairn]

Yes. Let's not, please and thank you.

[umbral girder]

Maybe I’ll do another “King in Yellow” story for an adventure

[fossil hollow]

:3

[marble lion]

the one about the bombing runs and wartime and the one about the romance with one of the women
i dont recall the book being in there
the falconer maybe had it but idk

[fossil hollow]

Dont worry, my Memento Mori campaign has to worry about Orcus, yall got bigger feesh

[humble cairn]

Bigger than Orcus ...

[reef tundra]

Dear god…

[fossil hollow]

Hes only a Huge creature

[marble lion]

the stories inbetween dont mention the play at all but the first one reads part of it out i believe

[fossil hollow]

Godzilla_Roar.mp4

[marble lion]

i gotta find an audiobook to listen to king in yellow again

[humble cairn]

You know Koa would want to study Godzilla.

[fossil hollow]

Dontcha know it

Goji is actually one of the bigger inspirations of the campaign

Annam's Cradle is essentially Hollow Earth

[prisma mason]

Yippi I start a oneshot soon

How's everyone else's day

[marble lion]

is this official lore?

[fossil hollow]

biding my time until session

[umbral girder]

The stuff between stories is pieces of text from the Playbook

[knotty pasture]

I end up scrapping two character ideas and am in the middle of remaking them

[fossil hollow]

Annam's Cradle is a location in Bigby's yes

[humble cairn]

I made my first Kaiju friend!!

[marble lion]

that makes sense

[umbral girder]

Only act 1 as Act 2 is the “going crazy parts”

[marble lion]

great

[prisma mason]

I'm playing a halfing wizard named Bingle who's very very smart but has like 3 charisma

Bro does not go outside

[fossil hollow]

does not go outside would be 3 CON imo

[prisma mason]

Bingle doesn't like talking except when it's demons giving him magic secrets

[covert root]

Good morning, Hebrews and Shebrews.

[fossil hollow]

hoeh

[prisma mason]

I also got a dwarf fighter which is nice but their AC is tinyyy

[fossil hollow]

-# how tiny?

[prisma mason]

9 ac

[fossil hollow]

Wait. Dwarf? Tiny? BOOK OF GRUDGES

[prisma mason]

He's got LOW dex

[fossil hollow]

wynaut wear heavy armor

[prisma mason]

Too poor :<

[fossil hollow]

dont fighters get an option to start with chainmail?

[prisma mason]

I'm using a different system :>

[fossil hollow]

Oh

[lapis sonnet]

just counted all the seats i made on my battlemap, theres room for exactly 670 guests

[fossil hollow]

crashes out

[prisma mason]

Yeah it has a shop where you purchase items and unfortunately I'm too poor

I do however have a two handed greatsword and alot of strength and con

[prisma mason]

What kinda battle are you doing lol

[coarse ravine]

Laptop or iPad. Dry cough and is sick all the time

[lapis sonnet]

its the dining room of my guest house! if my players find out that the cooking crew are intruders, they can choose to fight em here

just sent it in #dnd-maps

[prisma mason]

670 is allota guys xD

Very cool I like it

Are the cooking staff like bandits or something?

[lapis sonnet]

my party is there to steal some mcguffin from the landlord there, and im going to make the cooking staff want that artifact aswell. other than that i havent really thought about anything about them yet so suggestions are welcome!

[prisma mason]

Ohh very cool

Heist!

I rlly need to run a campaign where it's a heist crew and they can pick through different heists and missions in their hideout

[sacred pilot]

24 rules, how many 5 feet square does a bastion barracks (one large room facility) have to house 12 soldiers on 6 bunk beds, assuming 2 squares for each bed, leaving room inbetween them and space for other stuff? Sorry for sounding complicated.

[fossil hollow]

Bunk beds

[sacred pilot]

Beds with two etages.

[fiery nimbus]

Players yearn for character creation
why else would level 1 characters be so squishy

[fossil hollow]

also... bunk beds are usually like, at most 8 ft

[sacred pilot]

Yeah, but one square ingame is 5 feet and I need to make those barrack rooms not cramped. Hate hyperfixations at times like these.

[lapis sonnet]

depends on the soldiers tbh, a gnome army and a goliath army will have massively different needs. just take the average soldier, take that and up the size by 1 feet for the bed, say theres 2 soldiers per bed (bunk bed) and then ull have ur quantity

[fiery nimbus]

can't you just put them all in one big king sized bed?

preferably with rose petals sprawled about

[lapis sonnet]

make them take meth and skip sleep all together

[sacred pilot]

I´m trying to build a gatehouse, not a royal harem.

[fiery nimbus]

I don't see how those two are mutualy exclusive

but besides the point, how many barracks do you have spread out throughout the city, or is that the only one?

is it the entire complex or is that all squeezed in a single building?

[sacred pilot]

Fair point. And I´m trying to but that Greyhawk City Citadel to paper as an exercise and work for later. That gatehouse has two "towers" around 100 feet into the air and I need to fit storage, armory and a ground level for guard duty in there. Just wanted to get the soldier quarters out of the way. I currently got 25 square feet rooms envisioned, but that gives 4 bunk beds at most before things get cramped. And according to the wiki the gatehouse can house a 100 soldiers.

[fiery nimbus]

what i really meant is that you can just have beds build alongside the wall continuously since thats how beds often looked like in barracs

[fossil hollow]

walls are also not 5ft wide usually

[fiery nimbus]

House 100 soldiers or allow for deployment of up to 100 soldiers?

[sacred pilot]

Tend to get this square stuff confused often. The floor plan has 25 5 feet squares, which I thought where 25 square feet.

[fiery nimbus]

they don't really need to sleep in the gatehouses because you know, they will most likely live inside of the city

[fossil hollow]

yee, barracks are for easy deployment usually

In medieval times, they usually had their own homes and such when not deployed

[scenic zinc]

In the past, nations often didn't utilize barracks when deployed. They housed themselves in the houses of those they conquered or were subjects of that nation.

That's part of the reason why the 3rd amendment even exists.

Building a barracks means building. That takes time and resources.

[fiery nimbus]

Btw, soldiers cut off from supply lanes and living off of the land is a bloody nightmare for everyone involved

[sacred pilot]

It says that it can house up to 100, but I also don´t see the supposed gatehouse on the map, only the two towers and the gate build into the wall. Hold on, two rooms on each floor with around 4 bunk beds makes 16 soldiers per two rooms. Times 5 is 80, adding 1 more floor makes 96 soldiers, with maybe the 7th used for the last 4 and a commanding officer... Which leaves three floors for storage , armory and the ground level. Need to look up the average size for a modern barracks room then. Medic could be in the rest of the stronghold...

Ah, sorry for rambling but you guys helped jumpstart my brain, so thanks.

[fiery nimbus]

aye if its a gatehouse in the city, just delete the beds entirely or leave it at one room
soldiers have their loving families or at least a decrepit slum to live in

[sacred pilot]

I would, but that would mean that they cross the city everyday from the slums to the noble quarters of the city, both at opposite ends.

[fiery nimbus]

wait, the gate opens up directely to the noble district?

[fossil hollow]

interesting city layout

[sacred pilot]

City of Greyhawk, the Grand Citadel. The noble and middle class districts grew out of the space inbetween the citadel and old city, which are now the slums and thieves quarters.

[hot marlin]

Literally the most repeated advice in the Art of War, btw

[fossil hollow]

oh our favorite fiend is here

[fiery nimbus]

I know, it is working but oh boy is it a real nightmare especially for civilians

[hot marlin]

Oh absolutely. Medieval war requires pillage if you don't have good supply lines. Requisition the granaries of entire villages, leaving them to starve

[fiery nimbus]

pretty sure there was one guy in US that had an entire march through the enemy territory just living off the land during the civil war

[fiery nimbus]

I do also love how Art of War was basically written so the guy in charge actually keeps basics in mind, like outfitting their soldiers or feeding them,

[hot marlin]

A fiend? Where? I, a perfectly lawful good paladin, will smite them!

[fiery nimbus]

sorry, its my infernal calling again

i paid for the entire 999gold gem and i will use the entire 999gold gem

[fossil hollow]

i crushed my X button.

[sacred pilot]

Heavens, I´m really dumb. Just rechecked the map several times and apparently confused a few location keys. The entire time, I was working off the assumption that I needed to cram everything into the gatehouse with the gateway to the citadel. And I was looking at two different sources, one of which had an overlapping name. I can toss the soldiers into a larger barracks building within the citadel and not cram them up in the doorway frame. Feels like I wasted the past 3 hours now.

[jagged vigil]

So, one of my players is in The Black Network, the Zhentarim mercenary company, not the Zhentarim Empire. Her boss (who is also her ex) sent her on a mission she hated, so she wrote a letter threatening him. He writes back a sternly worded summons but honestly reacts very gently compared to what she said. Now, she's trying to write HIS boss to basically tattle on him for being unprofessional. I don't know if this is the player playing their character as so totally unhinged and childish or if the player actually finds this to be, like, a fair and good idea. I don't wanna spoil this player's "chaos rogue" fun, but this also comes across as a bit ridiculous

[fiery nimbus]

... glad you found a solution

[tawdry sentinel]

Dear Rogue,

A polite reminder we are a professional organisation, with procedures we are expected to follow, and standards that we are expected to uphold, I would request you bear this in mind before making any rash decisions.

I trust this is the last I will hear on this matter.

Warm Regards
Boss's Boss

[nova trellis]

Never got caught stealing but missed record keeping

[blissful cosmos]

I need guidance on how to run a tavern brawl? I'm unsure of how to run that encounter nor how to write notes for something like that

[crimson gulch]

Loads of folks making unarmed strikes non leathal

[jovial shadow]

I don't know about non lethal

[atomic kayak]

You can choose to make any melee attack non lethal

[jovial shadow]

Try The older DND module called Scourge of the Slave Lords

It has a very detailed tavern brawl

[frail epoch]

Hey 👋

How y'all doing ?

[azure jasper]

Im finally writing my character's backstory
first sentence done
"Noah Keyes was born at a very young age."

[civic lodge]

no shit haha

[azure jasper]

Its so traumatic already, isnt it?

[civic lodge]

"He was born of a mother and father..."

[azure jasper]

when he was born he was the youngest person ever

And he couldn't speak what was on his mind

he couldn't fend for himself

The first years of his life, he couldn't even walk

[severe rampart]

was he born covered in blood, not even having clothes on his back?

[marble lion]

his first word, a scream

[woven flint]

Played my Yuan-Ti Alchemist, Hilsuthiti Zhoskavich yesterday, he brought wine that he made to a gathering and made a good first impression, The Barbarian already really likes him.
Some elementals went a bit wild after cultist attacked so we destroyed them, I found runes on their cores that were some sort of control/command, this intrigues my fella so, while the party is traveling.. he might collect a few more cores...

I decided to make it outwardly clear to the party as players that this fella would be one of my less than good critters, I'm not telling them anything about his goals, though 🧐

[stray atlas]

random thought

is shar specifically tied to the moon or is she tied to darkness is general?

[empty thicket]

it happen, if need some help in the writing i can give some

[woven flint]

She's the Goddess of Darkness and Night

She's also highly associated with pain and loss

Selune is the one directly associated with the moon and is Shar's twin sister

Hope that helps a bit :>

[reef tundra]

I’d worship Selune any day over Shar

[woven flint]

I dunno, Selune's attitude/behavior is as fickle as the cycles of the moon..
She scares me a bit

[coarse ravine]

I mean... can do basically the water deep intro

[reef tundra]

She seems nicer than her sister at least

[wintry brook]

Guys is aether a good character name I just made it up

[coarse ravine]

||Some bad boys pick a fight with lady bartender etc. Idk if this is spoilers as its the first scene||

If so ill delete it......

[fossil hollow]

wether its good or not depends on the entirety of the character

[wintry brook]

It’s a paladin

[reef tundra]

Sounds a little like Ethan so I think it works

[wintry brook]

Yayyy

[fresh bloom]

What would be the harm if one person shot themselves at another with a cannon?

[hushed mason]

Aether is the upper air - the bright blue of the heavens. He is son of Nyx (night) and Erebrus (utter darkness) and brother of Hemera (day).

This is from Hesiod's Theogony, an ancient Greek holy text.

https://www.theoi.com/Protogenos/Aither.html

[wintry brook]

Oh that’s awesome

[hushed mason]

I think it's a great name.

[wintry brook]

Thank you!

[hot marlin]

Not exactly a holy text to be precise. The concept of "holy text" as understood by modern westerners does not really apply to greek hellenistic religious practice

[hushed mason]

Meh. Who cares what modern westerners think. 😉

[hot marlin]

Truer words were seldom spoken

[hearty bay]

skill checks like intimidation don't really have a clear consequence, do they?

[woven flint]

INCUBUS!
my favorite fiendish fellow!
How art thou?

[hot marlin]

Define 'clear consequence' please

I am still not a fiend or fiendish in any way shape or form.

[hearty bay]

for example, becoming frightened or having disadvantage. The results of failing against an intimidation check are entirely up to the dm, aren't they?

[woven flint]

It could go wrong plenty of ways
Someone takes it as a challenge, they report you to the law..

[hearty bay]

so up to the dm

[reef tundra]

Yup

[fossil hollow]

much like any other skill check

[hearty bay]

I mean, most skill checks are more predictable than that

[hot marlin]

No in theory without DM fiat or specific features a successful intimidation check does not impose the frightened condition or disadvantage on anything. But all skills are deliberately somewhat vague in order to be more easily adapted to the situation by the DM

[woven flint]

Yeah, it doesn't innately have consequences, but it's definitely a Charisma skill that should potentially have consequences as it's a very hostile action to intimidate someone lol

[hot marlin]

All skills kinda run on DM fiat.

[fossil hollow]

predictable does not mean its still not up to DM

it just means predictable

[hearty bay]

yeah, but they tend to be more binary. Intimidation would mostly be used by me against would be hostile enemies

was thinking about the merits of having a path of the giant barbarian with expertise on intimidation

[glass granite]

Could be interesting

[woven flint]

Nothing really advantageous by being a Giant barbarian and intimidating
No class really has innate advantages to Intimidation

[hearty bay]

suddenly the 4m tall hulk tells he's gonna smash you and your pal into a bologna and throws +11 on the intimidation dice

[glass granite]

Ehhhh…
2024 primal knowledge gives you advantage

[hearty bay]

barbarian gets to use STR over CHA while raging

[glass granite]

When raging

[woven flint]

That's a use of a resource, so it's not innately advantageous as you're spending more than you're gaining (typically)

[hearty bay]

I find it unlikely that a single intimidation check could end a fight altogether

so the rage can still be used for skull bashing

[reef tundra]

I’ve seen it happen

But that tends to be with weaker willed enemies like bandits

[hearty bay]

after some enemies decided that playing cards on the back of a tavern is a better activity than becoming an origami

[woven flint]

Also, you're using the
✨ Influence Action ✨ Raw, so you'd lose out on an attack on your turn too.

Study Actions and Influence Actions are all, RAW, Actions.
Not ALL dms follow those rules, but it is something to consider

[hearty bay]

mine does, so either I skull bash or intimidate

[hot marlin]

It all depends on the DM and situation. Sometimes I will allow a successful intimidation check to convince a group of enemies to let you pass unharmed, sometimes the successful intimidation check only makes the most cowardly of the group run away, sometimes I have the result be that the leader of the group of enemies blurts out an important piece of information before the fight proceeds as normal

As always, the DM weighs the motivations and personalities of the NPCs on one side, the necessities of the plot and game on the other

And sometimes the balance is not just between those two things, but a third and even sometimes a fourth thing may apply to the decision process.

[fossil hollow]

Comedy factor

[hot marlin]

That one does not factor into my personal decision process, but it does for some DMs.

[fossil hollow]

It does for me a bit. Sometimes though it ends up great

[hot marlin]

For example, if the enemies have been extremely tight-lipped about who they are and what their mission is, a successful intimidation check may result in the leader of the enemies noticing their allies are hesitating and saying "Come on men, whatever they do to us will be better than what [name of their master] will do if we run"

And then that intimidation check has not influenced the fight itself, but allowed the PCs to learn two informations. The name of the master, and the fact that the minions are motivated by fear of what the master can do to them, implied to be worse than death.

[stray sage]

does spell storing item require a spell slot?

[fossil hollow]

You need to cast the spell yes

[hot marlin]

As for what that thing worse than death is, that depends. The master could be a necromancer, yes. Or they could threaten the families of the minions.

"You can kill me if I fight, but if I run [BBEG] will kill me and my entire family" tells a lot of information.

[woven flint]

No, it gives you charges to cast that spell at that level equal to twice your int.
You can't upcast them from said item, though

[hearty bay]

man, I just managed to land a crit hit with disadvantage

[fossil hollow]

Theres an item that isnt part of the artificer class

[hearty bay]

I was playing a game that runs on 5e, solasta, and my paladin just went and crit through a disadvantage

[fossil hollow]

always love a clutch nat40

[hearty bay]

like

the spectral spider went straight to spider heaven after sustaining 53 damage

5 slashing 48 radiant

[crimson gulch]

Classic

[woven flint]

They said Spell storing ITEM, not a ring of spell storing, goober

[hushed tide]

I think this counts as DnD? Baldurs gate 1 enhanced is such a good but stupidly brutal game, so angry right now though lmfao. On last boss Sarevok and his 2 mage minions. They just keep casting chaos and my mage's dispel magic doesn't work ever. No idea what to do at this point, any suggestions? I have a paladin, (main character) Imoen (thief/ranger) a druid, Rashaad the Sun monk and Xan the mage. Might try doing invisibility/silence 15ft radius spell but would love some suggestions!

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-media

[full garden]

just been playtesting 5e after coming from 1st ed. Why are people regularly min/maxing upwards of 100+ damage per combat round?

[glass granite]

I wouldn’t call it regular

Just the loud minority

[wide field]

It’s fun is some people’s reason. It’s really fun to make a strong build (I have friends who do it, but I’m awful at doing it so I don’t)

[full garden]

every game i have been in so far is rogue/ranger rogue soul knife, paladin autosmite machine.

[glass granite]

Rogue Ranger is by no means min-maxing

[wide field]

I believe that is more powergaming,

[glass granite]

Nor is soul knife
And no not even power gaming, rogue rangers are not by any means a broken thing

[full garden]

i donno sneak attack with a bow seems pretty op

[glass granite]

Is it?

Then we have wildly different standards of OP

[prisma mason]

Just got done a session and rip my halfing wizard Bingle who got crumpled by a minotaur before they could run

[glass granite]

Nooooo
May Bingle rest in peace

[full garden]

wizards seem to die pretty quick

[wide field]

Nooooooo poor Bingle

[prisma mason]

They got kill a dark mantle and find treasure before they died so I'm happy

[fervent salmon]

My casual dnd party is diabolical (attack dice arent included) im new to dnd
They see a toll guy and dont pay
Friend A: Lemme fight now
Me: your turn
Friend A: FIREBALL
I roll dice: 17 attack proceeds successfully
Friend B: im gonna smack him with my mace
Me: Rolls 11
Me: you hit one of the guards and the other survives
Friend C: i shove my staff up his ass
Me: 14 your attack is valid
Me: do you remove it?
Friend C: yes maximum bleeding
11, succesful but he survives
Again fireball
That guy got tortured😭

[prisma mason]

It is what it is sometimes

[glass granite]

Consequences, or just tell your party above table

[prisma mason]

Yes communication is key

Also how did they not get freindly fired by the fireball lol

[fervent salmon]

I had put a bounty on them and they got bounty hunters waiting next session

[full garden]

take 3 levels in paladin oath of the gienie before becoming a wizard, then take bladesinger. lol

[fervent salmon]

I forgot💀

[prisma mason]

Pfftt

It happens I do it all the time

[glass granite]

That’s quite MAD

[fervent salmon]

Improvising is key

[full garden]

lol splender of the genie staking with bladesong, lol

then all your wizard slots become fuel for divine smite

too bad you cant stack that with shadow blade.

[wide field]

There’s no oath of the genie, I think? Idk. Is that 3rd party or HB?

There are warlocks of the genie

[glass granite]

New Heroes of Faerun book

Oath of the Noble Genie

[wide field]

Ohhhhhhhh alr. I don’t do 2024 and I don’t do Faerun.

[glass granite]

I do 2024, but sadly don’t got the new books. Just heard people talking about them

[full garden]

for bladesinger it is the only logical choice

[glass granite]

I disagree

[wide field]

Bladesingers are cool vibes wise, but they’re not very good.

[full garden]

take defensive duelist and walk around with 30+ ac

[glass granite]

There are, like, many other routes you could go for bladesinger

[umbral girder]

Yeah Bladesinger is kinda meh

Shows off why AC isn’t really as important as people think when played at least.

[wide field]

Uhhhhh 30 AC is good but some people have crazy modifiers to hit. 5e is not broken. Maybe 5.5e is? Idk.

[full garden]

5e is a arms race

[glass granite]

Also, that 30 AC consumes a resource and a reaction

[full garden]

for a wizard that is acceptable

[glass granite]

I’m not gonna say it’s weak, cuz it’s not, but it’s not “the only logical choice”

[stoic haven]

gets hit by a str save

[full garden]

if you have pal as a sub you need 13+

[fallow grotto]

Guys, my dm says our campaign is gonna go to level 30

[full garden]

on a point pick for that combo your basically going 13 13 13 13 10 13

[stoic haven]

Wut

[wide field]

uhhhhhh… multiclassing?

[fallow grotto]

Yea

Thing is, he’s forcing us to

But most of us don’t want to

[wide field]

That’s crazy

[full garden]

level 30 in 5e is possible if you extrapolate it's not that hard

[fallow grotto]

Yea, like I wanna solo ranger, yes I know ranger is bad

[fossil hollow]

Its not... thats such a dead meme

[fallow grotto]

And he knows it’s hard to run level 20, let alone 30

[fallow grotto]

We’re playing 2015 5e

[fossil hollow]

thats especially where it shined

Gloomstalker exists

[full garden]

everyone is doing level 20 nowadays and all the fights are hard actually.

[fossil hollow]

Hunter pretty decent too

[fallow grotto]

Weird, he warned me to be absolutely sure I wanna play ranger, because it’s a bad choice

[fossil hollow]

he's working off a dead 12 year old meme

[fallow grotto]

I’m using monster slayer

[wide field]

Gloomstalkers are really fun. I once made an assassin build using Gloomstalker, it did a ton of damage first round.

[fossil hollow]

Monster Slayer is nice. Wish it was better mechanically, but alas

[fallow grotto]

I’m using a kenku monster slayer, with the spell hunters mark, and 2 handed fighting style

[wide field]

Yeah I know I was just commenting that Gloomstalker was fun.

[fallow grotto]

I know, just sharing my stuff ig

[wide field]

What level are you guys currently?

[fallow grotto]

We’re starting at level 3, the campaign will start in a few weeks, he’s a first time dm, which is why the level 30 is giving me a weird feeling

[fossil hollow]

... i fear hes getting ahead of himself

[fallow grotto]

Same

[wide field]

Same

[fallow grotto]

He’s an irl friend, and I’m a forever dm, so I’ve really wanted to be a player, since my age makes it hard to find a group, so I don’t know if I should leave

[stoic haven]

Forcing yall to multiclass or play

[fallow grotto]

Multi class

[stoic haven]

Either way, if most of y'all don't want to, bring it up, there's no point if y'all won't have fun

[fallow grotto]

I’ve tried talking to him

[wide field]

I understand that. I assume you’re a minor? I am too, it’s really hard to find games as a minor.

[fallow grotto]

He said he can plan for it

[fallow grotto]

Yea

[nova trellis]

Hottest take: I feel Gloomstalker should be baseline Ranger. Either that or Ranger has ranger styled maneuvers.

[wide field]

That sucks. I started an online all minors game, but I’ve currently got 5 people and I feel like that’s enough. Maybe you could do the same and ask someone else to DM?

[nova trellis]

Thats a whole Minecraft lobby.

[daring pecan]

Hello

[fallow grotto]

In my group, 2 say they don’t have the creativity, one says they’re to busy to dm, and the last says that they don’t know enough to dm

[daring pecan]

How is everyone?

[fallow grotto]

So by default I have to

[worldly flare]

Good, working on some Shenanigans

[wide field]

Could you try doing something online with other people?

[fallow grotto]

I’m fine, I’m making a character

[daring pecan]

DND shenanigans?