dnd-discussion

[glass granite]

They’re a one handed option. Not much more to add about them.

[old sluice]

Though to be honest, the lions would die of starvation, thirst and old age before Vecna is done killing all of them

[remote wadi]

I mean, looking at it doesn't seem too bad for 1d8 bludgeoning damage and only being 10 gold

But something feels missing...

[tame estuary]

no with the ring of spell storing, the steed summon summons it's own summon

[old sluice]

No it can't. The steed can't use the ring.

[humble cairn]

Resistances and immunity to "nonmagical" stuff was phased out with the new monsters, I believe. Instead they just got BPS resistance.

[tame estuary]

Ioun stone?

[dense nacelle]

Can a steed take the magic action?

[glass granite]

Because there’s nothing more to it. It’s a mace but better cuz it’s martial.

Nothing less, nothing more

[dense nacelle]

Lions beat Tiamat easily

[old sluice]

What about ioun stones?

[remote wadi]

Is it being martial and needing training what makes it better over being a simple weapon?

[old sluice]

No they don't. Because once again, Tiamat takes a few attacks the first round, then flies and blasts them from the air

[tame estuary]

can a otherworldy steed use an ioun stone to cast find steed?

[glass granite]

Usually, yes. All simple weapons have a direct upgrade martial variant, pretty much.

[old sluice]

Nope

[remote wadi]

Is a mace 1d6?

[glass granite]

Yes

[dense nacelle]

Tiamat had a +0 to initiative, lions have a +2

[glass granite]

Same damage type, same mastery. One just does more damage, and it’s the martial one.

[remote wadi]

I suppose that explains

Just kind of wish flails had a little more sometimes. They're such a cool weapon

[dense nacelle]

Lions actually singlehandedly win

[glass granite]

Granted, the “same mastery” part doesn’t always apply.

[old sluice]

Yes. Some lions, probably a few millions will be higher in initiative than Tiamat. This is why I said that during the first turn, they deal some meaningless amount of damage

[glass granite]

Doesn’t single handedly mean one lion beats Tiamat

[tame estuary]

no but like tiamat doesn't have a million health, if they each hit for 1 damage, eventualy will kill before her turn

[old sluice]

Actually Tiamat also does not take any damage. But even without the immunity, the amount she would take is meaningless

[old sluice]

Nope. Because even if all 1 billion lions are above her in initiative, only a few of them can be in melee with her.

[dense nacelle]

5 million lions hit Tiamat on the first turn

[tame estuary]

lion ladder

[old sluice]

There is limited space on the map after all

[tame estuary]

squeezed rule

[dense nacelle]

The rest lion ladder

[old sluice]

Now this is getting even sillier

[dense nacelle]

To get over the pile of lions

[tame estuary]

the premise is meant to be silly

[old sluice]

Hence sillier

[dense nacelle]

Every single Pokémon dies by lions btw without the lions attacking

[tame estuary]

I mean I can think of 100 million lions attacking each other to kill each other so they can be in position for 800 to attack tiamat before her turn comes up

[pliant sapphire]

50 trillion lions cant take down tiamat because she is inmune to slashing nonmagical damage

[dense nacelle]

Immunity to physical damage was removed in 2024

[pliant sapphire]

Tiamat was not reprinted

[dense nacelle]

Her 2014 statblock has not been updated, but if it were it would not have immunity to piercing slashing or bludgeoning

[craggy cairn]

Entity cramming damage

[old sluice]

"If" is a wonderful world. I can say literally anything with it.

[dense nacelle]

Her statblock will be updated twin

[tame estuary]

ok does vecna have their own statblock or is it something that's been reprinted?

[dense nacelle]

You think they’re not ever updating Tiamat????

[old sluice]

Twin?

[tame estuary]

I heard they use an archlich statblock

[old sluice]

What I think does not matter. What I know is that they have not.

[pliant sapphire]

25 Armor. Lions only would only damage her with crits 😂

[tame estuary]

I'll come back with the math tomorrow

I will account for space and how the lions would move

[dense nacelle]

Yes, and 50 million would crit

[tame estuary]

I will prove that a billion lions can beat "a high CR enemy from 2024 MM"

[dense nacelle]

atp the damage dice they deal doesn’t matter, Tiamat does not have 50 million HP

[old sluice]

Also: Frightful presence. Once Tiamat's turn comes, all lions fail their save.

[dense nacelle]

That’s if Tiamats turn comes

[pliant sapphire]

Legendary action

[dense nacelle]

There’s 1 billion of them

Their initiative bonus is higher than tiamats

[old sluice]

Tiamat's turn will come. No matter how you set up the map, you won't have more than a hundred lions able to attack Tiamat in the first round.

[tame estuary]

10% of them which is 100 million

[dense nacelle]

The lions demolish a terrasque

[old sluice]

Let's be generous and say five hundred lions. That is insufficient to down her turn 1.

[dense nacelle]

No contest

[tame estuary]

needs a crit so 5% of that will hit so 5 million

[knotty pasture]

With these Lion vs something contests I always assume that the opposing end has initiative first

[dense nacelle]

Why would they?

[knotty pasture]

Otherwise lions could just rush down most things and win before the opposing end could have their turn

Which defeats the whole point of the thought exercise if most answers come down to "if Lions go first, they win"

[dense nacelle]

In this circumstance the lions have a better initiative bonus than Tiamat

[old sluice]

Nope. First lion acts, tarrasque uses legendary action: World-Shaking Movement.

[tame estuary]

dang

[old sluice]

The tarrasque then burrows down.

[tame estuary]

foiled by legendary actions

[craggy cairn]

Why would you even need 5 million lions anyway

[dense nacelle]

The terrasque burrows down and

Leaves?

[pliant sapphire]

You can hit him

[craggy cairn]

Just get a gaggle of idiot adventurers who’ve seen way too much

[old sluice]

And stays underground blasting the lions with thunderous bellow, killing every lion rather quickly

[tame estuary]

not quickly, a billion is a lot

would take like 30 hours maybe

[old sluice]

Relatively quickly. Compared to how long Vecna and Tiamat take to kill them

[tame estuary]

would the tarrasque need rest?

[dense nacelle]

Couldn’t the terrasque just do that to anything, then?

[old sluice]

Yes. Contrary to Vecna, the Tarrasque is not immune to exhaustion

[dense nacelle]

And it needs to breathe

[old sluice]

Yes.

[dense nacelle]

And it has an intelligence of 3

[old sluice]

Burrowers can breathe in their tunnels. Otherwise ants and moles would be extinct.

And intelligence score does not matter here

[dense nacelle]

There’s because ants and moles leave holes at the top to allow them to breathe

A hole that the lions could pile into

Trapping and suffocating the terrasque

[tame estuary]

that's like 1d8 every round though, the tarrasque can burrow out

[dense nacelle]

Even if the terrasque kills all of the lions in its hole, it’s being met by like 999 million lions at the top

[tame estuary]

who all used the ready action, clever

[dense nacelle]

Exactly

Because intelligence score doesn’t matter

[craggy cairn]

I need a giant toad as a animal companion so it can eat people I don’t like

[old sluice]

In its hole? You misunderstand. Thanks to Burrowing Bellows all lions on the surface in a radius of 150 feet around the hole are dead.

The other lions will take more than a turn to reach the hole

[dense nacelle]

I think you don’t understand how many one billion is

[tame estuary]

150ft of range doesn't kill all the lions

[old sluice]

I do. But I don't see how the number is relevant to what I was saying.

[craggy cairn]

I’m just saying things over here

[tame estuary]

it doesn't even kill a million of them

[humble cairn]

Can we move on to a less silly topic?

[old sluice]

Of course it does not kill all the lions. But it kills all the lions within 150 feet of the hole.

[red steppe]

I love this convo lmao

[old sluice]

The other lions will be unable to reach the hole in a single turn.

[tame estuary]

ok I'll drop from the billion lions topic

[dense nacelle]

Fine, since everyone hates lions so much

1 billion frogs vs a level 20 wizard

[craggy cairn]

What

[old sluice]

The wizard wins.

[dense nacelle]

The wizard wins

[humble cairn]

Less silly.

[old sluice]

Wait, depends. Did the wizard prepare any spells that day?

[craggy cairn]

The wizard can use wish to obliterate the frogs.

[dense nacelle]

Because it’s not lions

Actually, there’s a 30% chance the frogs win

[tame estuary]

can beast master ranger ride their companions?

[old sluice]

Because if the wizard has no spells prepared, and is not wearing any magical items, then the wizard loses

[craggy cairn]

Depends on DM interpretation I’d say

[humble cairn]

If the Ranger is Small and the companion is Medium, yes.

[tame estuary]

dang, the giant toad idea would've been cool

[dense nacelle]

Or the ranger is medium and the companion is large

[humble cairn]

I'm currently playing a Beast Master and I use that tactic often. The Primal Companion is the best mount in the game.

[red steppe]

Wizard upscale, the simulacrum TPs into the swarm of a billion frogs

[humble cairn]

If we're talking about the Primal Companion, the largest one is Medium, by default.

[dense nacelle]

The frogs have prepared an action to attack the simulacrum, it dies instantly

[red steppe]

Pretty sure they can, if its a large creature, itd be dumb if they couldnt

[tame estuary]

why does wotc hates us so

the small races gets to ride on the toads

enlarge/reduce will have to do

[craggy cairn]

Getting stupid ideas about giant toad applications

[dense nacelle]

Actually, most medium races have the stipulation that you can be small

Or, at least some

If you’re a human you can be small methinks

[tame estuary]

"mechanically small" is very funny

[humble cairn]

In 2024 yes. Human, Changeling, Tiefling.

[craggy cairn]

I have a comically short Dragonborn as a favorite character of mine (4’ 6”.) he’s shorter than some dwarves

[tame estuary]

I'm like 3 inches taller than that

[craggy cairn]

Crazy

[dense nacelle]

Crazy

I’m actually 7’4”

[craggy cairn]

mechanically large

[dense nacelle]

Erm actually mechanically large doesn’t start until above 8 ft tall

Which, actually brings into question

[craggy cairn]

You’re still relatively massive

[dense nacelle]

If you’re a rune knight fighter Goliath who is 8 ft tall (still medium) and get to level 10, do you become large always?

[tame estuary]

uhh

[dense nacelle]

It feels not genuine to say that you are large when you’re like 8 ft and 3 inches tall

But mechanically, you are.

[tame estuary]

I mean horses aren't technically that big but they count as large mechanically

I think you'd still be medium mechanically, you count as large for roleplay purposes

[pliant sapphire]

There is no official ruling that states being taller than 8ft. is considered large. Size categories are not about how tall you are

[dense nacelle]

For the carry capacity boost (which is nuts on a Goliath) and the grappling mechanic, being large would be amazing

[half jetty]

I just found out about the existence of Purple, Yellow, Orange, Grey, Brown and Ferrous dragons.

[craggy cairn]

THEYRE PURPLE NOW?

[dense nacelle]

Brown dragons is vile

[half jetty]

In older editions

[dense nacelle]

Someone thought “imagine dragons but brown”

Imagine dragons

[half jetty]

The youtuber Dungeon Dad made some homebrew 5e stat blocks for them, and made videos covering their lore. Y'all should check them out.

[dense nacelle]

I understand it’s like earth elemental dragons

Did you know that the purple dragons from the purple dragon knights weren’t actually purple dragons, it was like a sickly black dragon that appeared purple, and then some like amethyst or something crystal dragons decided to join them because it was funny

[half jetty]

Brown dragons don't have wings, instead they have, ''fins" and have an insane burrow speed like land sharks

[dense nacelle]

That’s actually cool

[half jetty]

Interesting

[half jetty]

Yes

[dense nacelle]

1 billion lions vs brown dragon

[half jetty]

Lions win -w-

[dense nacelle]

Yeah

Lions win every time, except for like the football team

[craggy cairn]

Thinking about implications of having a Giant Toad as a companion creature

Mostly because comically large frog

[dense nacelle]

Everyone always talks about cool dragons but where is my giant love, like I love dnd giants they’re so cool

[remote wadi]

So, out of curiosity, what are some of Warlock's best spells and why?

[dense nacelle]

Eldrit blats

[craggy cairn]

Eldritch blast by a mile.

[remote wadi]

ASIDE from that one

[pliant sapphire]

In 2024 beast master ranger your companion can be anything you want, but it will have a standart datasheet

[dense nacelle]

Hex is nice early on

[tame estuary]

hex vs hunter's mark?

[dense nacelle]

They’re on entirely different classes twin

[humble cairn]

The question was about Warlock spells.

[craggy cairn]

Hex pairs well with eldritch blast on any single focused target (and also helps if you have a party member that works by forcing enemies to make saves!)

[humble cairn]

Hex doesn't affect saving throws.

[tame estuary]

it's a shame that hunter's mark requires concentration, imagine if you can stack that with hex

[craggy cairn]

ah.

[dense nacelle]

That’s like asking which is better, divine smite, or magic missile

Both of the spells always hit when cast

Except magic missile can be negated by the shield spell

So maybe not

[tame estuary]

divine smite only works on attack rolls right?

[dense nacelle]

Yes, but when you use the bonus action to smite the smite always hits

[tame estuary]

and needs weapon hmm

[humble cairn]

Works with unarmed strikes in 2024.

[dense nacelle]

Oh true

[tame estuary]

can you just dap someone up and then cast divine smite immediately your hands touch?

[craggy cairn]

You can smite with a brick

[remote wadi]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought Warlock would have more offensive spells than what they have

[humble cairn]

Also works with thrown melee weapons in 2024, that was fun.

[glass granite]

Absolutely, and it’s peak

[dense nacelle]

Smite is now ranged twin

[remote wadi]

Like, I always saw them as an offensive spellcaster that casts fewer, but much more damaging spells

[dense nacelle]

I imagine like thunderous smite would be best for a dap

[tame estuary]

we're changing this spell into a touch spell

[dense nacelle]

Imagine you dap someone up so hard a strike of holy energy bolts down from the sky making a loud thunderous boom and sending both of you flying

[humble cairn]

This is true. What do you mean by "offensive?" Because their spell list is basically damaging spells and control spells.

[dense nacelle]

Is it not an attack if you hit someone’s hand?

[remote wadi]

It's that one High Five from Adventure Time

[tame estuary]

some one piece ts

[remote wadi]

I knew Eldritch Blast, but idk if the damaging spells are that many for the lower levels... or it's just my brain frying

[tame estuary]

take fiend warlock

that's what yo wanted right? the one spell everybody wants

[glass granite]

FIREBALLLL

[humble cairn]

1st level Warlock spell list is just very thin in general, not a lot of choice. Even then, they have damaging spells. I mean a spell list doesn't need so many redundant ways to cause damage.

[dense nacelle]

Eldritch blast is honestly amazing if you dip like 3 levels into warlock as a bard or something, since cantrips don’t care about the level you have into the class you got from them

Take shield for a reaction spell with the specific pact

Also you need the pact to add charisma modifier to damage rolls of eldritch blast

[tame estuary]

I find that in general, early level spells are more stuff for out of combat, and with warlock, these out of combat spells can be used out of combat with little cost

[dense nacelle]

Early level spells are less combat controlling spells

Though, darkness exists

Darkness is one of the best 2nd level spells OAT

It’s 4:22 am I should sleep

[tame estuary]

entire party out of subclasses that can see in magical darkness would go hard

[humble cairn]

1st level you have Hex, which combined with Eldritch Blast is your bread and butter damage. Then you have Witch Bolt, which is better than it was. For AOE you have Arms of Hadar. So not a lot of choice, but you do have damage.

[remote wadi]

I suppose that is a good point. When you have Eldritch Blast, it becomes hard to have other damaging spells that wouldn't be outclassed easily

[humble cairn]

Darkness is good as long as you are smart when using it.

[craggy cairn]

Repelling Blast + Lance of Lethargy just makes it impossible for the enemy to try to reach you if you hit your shots

[dense nacelle]

Skulker is a great feat simply for the dark vision

[remote wadi]

Wanted to ask for advice on something

[dense nacelle]

*blind ssight

[tame estuary]

warlock is really good for many encounter per adventuring day with short rest every now and then
and combat taking 4-6 rounds

[remote wadi]

What would be some great options to take or potentially pair with a Fighter? (And Samurai subclass)

[glass granite]

Like multi classes?

Sorry just got here

[tame estuary]

fighter is very versetile

you can be paladin and always hit on that divine smite

or warlock so you can always hit on that eldritch smite (5 levels might be a lot tho)

[dense nacelle]

Ranger is good for the hunters mark and zephyr strike

[remote wadi]

If i were to be a Samurai Fighter, what are some good things to consider with it? Bonus points if it can work with simple types of magic for backstory reasons

[humble cairn]

Multiclass or teamwork?

[glass granite]

Well, you should consider elven accuracy

[tame estuary]

2 levels in barbarian?

[glass granite]

You get advantage a LOT, and triple advantage goes hard

[remote wadi]

Multiclass for now. Need to keep it slow and simple so my brain doesn't explode

[dense nacelle]

There’s no point to have more than 1 advantage

[glass granite]

It’s funny

[humble cairn]

If you want to keep it simple why not monoclass?

[dense nacelle]

And if your team is actually smart it’s decently easy to flank, or if you’re using a vex weapon you can keep advantage going nonstop

[glass granite]

And Samurai is already great at getting advantage

[tame estuary]

monoclassing on fighter is tempting

[glass granite]

And also, doesn’t samurai eventually have to give up one advantage for one of their features?

[tame estuary]

3 attacks at level 11, that's 3 attacks on your magic weapon

[dense nacelle]

My main point for zephyr strike is the free disengage each round

[remote wadi]

I'm saying don't bombard me with crazy ideas so my brain doesn't fry trying to comprehend it

[dense nacelle]

Yeah, fighter is pretty good twin we should all play fighters twin

[humble cairn]

Right, but again why not monoclass?

[glass granite]

I do like monoclass fighter here tbh, but as mentioned Ranger is tempting

[dense nacelle]

Monoclassing is encouraged heavily in 2024

[humble cairn]

Hunter's Mark and lots of Extra Attack is nice.

[dense nacelle]

The big thing with hunters mark, too, is that since you’re a fighter you’re not concentrating on anything

[craggy cairn]

Kobold for Pack Tactics if you want to go for a teamwork approach

[remote wadi]

I wouldn't know, that's what I'm here for

And I guess because I wouldn't mind my samurai having a simple, but effective understanding/usage of magic

[dense nacelle]

I’m going to sleep

[remote wadi]

Think like a shaman

[humble cairn]

You generally only want to multiclass if you have a specific thing you're going for. You don't seem to have a specific plan so I think it would be better to monoclass.

[tame estuary]

what kind of samurai are you trying to be?

[humble cairn]

Magic Initiate: Druid works for this.

Maybe Ritual Caster.

[still plover]

Magic initiate generally.

[dense nacelle]

Hi g man

[glass granite]

A level or two in Ranger or Paladin works too

Another fighting style, some spells and some other features (lay on hands ot expertise, for example)

[tame estuary]

3 levels into thief rogue is interesting... don't know how much it helps but samurai advantage will make you "always" proc sneak attack if you're using a finesse weapon

[glass granite]

Heads up, remember the advantage feature takes a bonus action

[remote wadi]

I guess to be more precise

The type of magic I would shoot for would be akin to Pact of the Blade

[glass granite]

So at this point, just doing swashbuckling might be better

[glass granite]

Then why aren’t you playing an eldritch knight?

[tame estuary]

at that point that's the wrong subclass for it 😭

[glass granite]

Or, heck, a devotion paladin could even work

Or a rogue with magic initiate to spam weapon attack cantrips

[remote wadi]

I will have to look into that. But considering I almost mistook it for a shadow paladin, that is my cue to get some sleep

[tame estuary]

I see you a lot here I forgot you're new to the game

[pallid haven]

have you guys ever heard the story of edgardo?

[craggy cairn]

Tell me the story of edgardo

[remote wadi]

Also consider the fact that I have to slowly prepare my sleep schedule for the double whammy of third shift and 12 hour shift

So my brain rn is the equivalent of a laptop on power saver (that also does late night rambles)

[pallid haven]

i just saw the story on youtube

[remote wadi]

Edgardo, the puncher of edgelords?

[pallid haven]

yes thats the one

thats a freaking good underdog story

[craggy cairn]

gonna have to take a look at that one

[remote wadi]

Still hoping for the day that he and his friend meet up again

[remote wadi]

I can send it in dms if you want

[pallid haven]

dudes punches so powerful it have broken the fabrics of the reality(forums)

[bold quest]

Hi yall, do you guys have any suggestions on building a unarmed fighter? (Without monk)

[glass granite]

Well, unarmed fighting style to start

If not available, choose tavern brawler via the sailor origin
If 2014, take tavern brawler via variant human probably, or choose a species that has a natural weapon

[bold quest]

Any suggestions for bypassing like bludgeoning resistances?

[glass granite]

Absolutely none

[bold quest]

Damn

[glass granite]

-# except play monk

[humble cairn]

It must be Fighter?

[glass granite]

Why do you want this anyway?

[humble cairn]

Can I interest you in Beast Barb?

[bold quest]

Sounds interesting

[glass granite]

I was gonna say barbarians do this better than fighters

[bold quest]

Honestly for a game I'm playing with my friends

[bold quest]

Oh fr?

[glass granite]

What’s stopping you from monk?

[glass granite]

Rage bonus applies on punching the living daylights out of your opponent, and they’re better grapplers in 2014, so yes

[bold quest]

I was avoiding monk cus one of my friends is alrdy a monk, I didn't want to double up

[humble cairn]

They're also good grapplers in 2024.

[glass granite]

Are they inherently better than strength fighters tho?

[humble cairn]

Ah, only if it's a Dex Fighter.

[limber trail]

I would say unarmed combat is probably a bad idea if you’re not playing a monk. It requires a lot of work just to be even remotely competitive with what you get as a martial weapon user by default

[glass granite]

I’d be damned if they were playing a Dex non-monk unarmed fighter

[bold quest]

What if it's in a campaign where characters are level 5 and rarely level up?

[glass granite]

And even if you try your best, it’s still worse than weapons

[glass granite]

Absolutely nothing changes

In fact, the fact everyone gets proper equipment might make it worse for you

[bold quest]

Daem, tho I saw an item called the eldritch claw tattoo

[humble cairn]

Can I interest you in a Beast Barbarian that is flavored to be a wuxia style martial artist?

[limber trail]

Still a bad idea. Just do yourself a favour and pick up a weapon. You could be dealing a d8 damage minimum, where a comparable unarmed build would be a d4 of damage. (In both cases using a shield)

[bold quest]

So it's pretty difficult without homebrew

[humble cairn]

Instead of shapeshifted claws, it was Eagle Claw Style.

[limber trail]

Actually Ophid has a good suggestion there

[bold quest]

Hmm that sounds cool

[glass granite]

Beast barb is a very good suggestion yes

[humble cairn]

And I also attacked with iron rings worn on my forearms (Light Hammers).

[pallid haven]

i hope the jedi class is allowed

[humble cairn]

With Nick Mastery I was able to do four attacks on my turn. If I took Dual Wielder it would have been five, all with Rage bonus.

[humble cairn]

There is no such official class.

[bold quest]

That's sounds real cool

[limber trail]

That sounds like a class that would be rarely allowed in games

[pallid haven]

homebrew?

[glass granite]

With all the rage bonuses, that’s pretty good!

[limber trail]

A Jedi class is definitely homebrew

[glass granite]

Oh 1000%
And very specific at that

[bold quest]

So what I'm getting is, unarmed fighter is very bad, and best way going is reflavouring?

[glass granite]

Sums it up pretty well
Worse comes to worse use gauntlets (light hammers)

[limber trail]

If you wanna play something similar, Psi Warrior Fighter is that kind of thing though. It’s got some telekinesis, agility, and works great with swords. Jedi vibes.

[humble cairn]

It's not good, try Beast Barb instead.

[bold quest]

Alright, thanks man

[pallid haven]

can you quit a Play-by-post game whatever you like?

[glass granite]

You can quit any game whenever you like

[pallid haven]

i see

[limber trail]

You can quit any game whenever you like. I would suggest playing sessions fully and committing on the same level as the group but nobody is forcing you to

[pallid haven]

but can you play the same character that you have created in a different campaign? or not?

[unborn bramble]

isn’t that completely up to you? if you’re playing with a different group they won’t know, and if you’re playing with the same group you could always just ask

[pliant sapphire]

If the character suits in the campaign and the DM approves it, of course

[pallid haven]

is the psi warrior exist in standard dnd?

[glass granite]

Yes

[pallid haven]

so it's a canon class then?

[glass granite]

It’s from an official book, yes

[tame estuary]

no

you can make an exact copy though

fucntionally it should work the same

[limber trail]

Yup, in 2024 it’s one of the PHB classes and it’s definitely official content in 2014

[pallid haven]

oh ok

[ivory shale]

guys i think i came across a brainrot

So i tried to find a player that's interested in another game but they insisted theyre new and want to play dnd

So i gave them the quickstart rules then they replied

"There are so many things to read 😖"

So i told them why dont just use a different game and i suggested roll for shoes.

They said okay and asked me for the slice of life genre.

I told them to make a character and 2-3 days ago and they just tell me the character they made.

heres the character

"Ok
My character
Is a bomber plane
Who is a mage
And can use dark magic
He also have adhd
He forgots spells and stuff
If i roll dice and don't get 15 or up
He can't cast spell
Cus he forgets
And if i get 15 or higher dice roll
I can use spell and bombs
If the number higher then 15 then dmg increased
And if i roll 20
I can use a special poweful spell
Its callef
Atomic cluster daiper
That works like a cluster bomb
And does high aoe damage
And radiation for 2 second
And his name will be
Bombardino ankoino"

whats the most respectful way to reject this kid?

[bold quest]

Hmm that's hard

[glass granite]

Sorry, but I don’t think you’ll be a good fit for this table.

[still plover]

"I don't think we have the same expectations of how this is going to work. Best of luck to you in your search."

[ivory shale]

another question, would you play with a character like that?

[glass granite]

That’s oddly specific

[glass granite]

Oh heavens no

[ivory shale]

technically roll for shoes works for it but i dont wanna 🥀

[bold quest]

Hard pass

[bold quest]

Saw the username and thought maybe the other person was also indo, bcs historically kids around here are like that

[bold quest]

Just say what nuggetn suggested, that's a quick and easy thing to say

[glass granite]

-# off topic but GIGIIII!

[ivory shale]

man , i found this person on a gigi server

like i know she is chaotic.......

[still plover]

There's always Crab Truckers.

[bold quest]

Sorry what?

[still plover]

It's a RPG about crabs who are truckers.

[bold quest]

Oh, cool

[tame estuary]

I need you to personally GM me

there's no way this is real

[burnt cave]

btw if you guys get added randomly by peeps from here you never met— do not trust them. 🫠

[hollow stone]

yea that happens a lot in this server

[ivory shale]

scam?

[burnt cave]

yep

or it was just someone tryna harass me idk. blocked them before they got a chance

[tame estuary]

you inspired me to run crab truckers

[limber trail]

I don’t see as many scammers but it’s often people who are asking you to commission them for art

[hollow stone]

i've never actually heard any of them out, i just search their name for messages in the server and if i've never spoken to them i just ignore it

[still plover]

Hah! But seriously, it's silly and free, sometimes you just want a bit of nonsense. Also we were watching Shipping Wars. But back on topic...

Could someone remind me when the general expectation is for a fighter to get their first magical weapon?

[still plover]

Same. A blank server message history is a red flag, for sure.

[hollow stone]

i'd say around the time that casters start to outpace them

like around level 8-ish, or earlier if you aren't going much higher than 10

[limber trail]

I generally try and get a magical weapon in the hands of a martial by level 6 or 7. Although that's +1 weapons. Magical weapons, as in weapons that count as magical for the purposes of overcoming nonmagical resistance, might start appearing earlier.

[hollow stone]

oh yea if it's '14 rules toss them a weapon that bypasses nonmagical resistance as soon as that becomes a problem

[tame estuary]

isn't there a magic item per tier chart?

not a chart more like a fillable page

[limber trail]

there's a chart in the DMG but it's more a guideline

[tame estuary]

I'd just roll random but the players get to choose what of the 4 categories they belong to

[limber trail]

Wdym?

[hot gate]

Each magic item has a rarity, so they're already sorted by "tier" pretty much.

[limber trail]

yeah true

[still plover]

Right, ta all.

[tame estuary]

Armaments Relics Implements Arcana

pick between that and I roll the d100 on the dmg

[hot gate]

Right, but each of these categories is split into a rarity.

I wouldn't advise letting them roll on the legendary one, for example.

[tame estuary]

I roll randomly for that too, but at level 3 when they get their subclass they all get to choose from the 4

[hot gate]

They get to choose from a category?

[tame estuary]

it's like uhh that spinning thing roulette?

[limber trail]

I typically pick most of the items by hand honestly

[tame estuary]

yeah arcana armaments implements and relics

[limber trail]

that or I'll roll independent of the rollable tables, using online tools

the rollable tables are missing quite a few existing items

[hot gate]

That's true, though for new players I usually pick basic rules items so they can easily look it up.

[wind frost]

Hi guys

[tame estuary]

feels railroady

[wind frost]

How can I make a request in looking for dm server?

[hot gate]

You as the DM pick what they encounter, that's not railroady.

[rotund shell]

read the instructions in #find-a-game

[limber trail]

Definitely true. If my players are getting an item, I'll make sure it's an item they can easily get on DnD beyond, either through Homebrew or through one of the official books we have.

[tame estuary]

#find-a-game read the messages there friend

[limber trail]

I think of it less like a railroad and more like handpicking the ingredients to make the cake that they're baking taste better. I lay those ingredients out for them, and they decide if they wanna put them on their cake or not.

[tame estuary]

nah

you're telling them how you would play their characters

[hot gate]

Picking items that I think would be fun to them has certainly worked better than rolling randomly for me.

That is absolutely not what you're doing.

They can throw away that wand, sell it if they want.

[limber trail]

My players tell me how they want to play their characters, and then i provide tools to support that playstyle

[hidden spindle]

I like Random Magic Tables. Takes the edge off of my favoritism towards players and makes it neutral.

[tame estuary]

felt like we've had this conversation last week
dejavu

[limber trail]

I also find random magic tables can sometimes feel to me a bit useless. I've certainly as a player felt like a party has been crawling for weeks, finally finds a magic item, and it just doesn't feel like it fits anyone

[tame estuary]

I like to think of magic items as treats

[limber trail]

What I sometimes do is, I'll pick 10-15 magic items which are specifically good for someone, and then I'll roll from that smaller set

[hot gate]

Yeah, that tracks. Though you can sometimes offset that by simply "dropping" more items.

[tame estuary]

they aren't and shouldn't be important to the game itself

would be nice to cast d6 healing word everyday though

[limber trail]

I agree but a good use of them from DMs can make the game feel more fun and rewarding

[hot gate]

They may not be important for balance, but they're certainly important for the game enjoyment.

[limber trail]

Rewarding players is a big part of making the game fun and magic items are a great type of reward

[slow wharf]

I just found out in older dnd women had unique rules for them including:

1. all charisma scores are replaced by beauty scores

2. if a women with a beauty score of 5 or less seduces a men he will die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSvCP401kK0

[craggy cairn]

That second part is the goofiest mechanic imaginable, but the first is. Really something

[hot gate]

Ah, dnd shorts, truly the epitome of reasonable videos. /s
But yes, old d&d had some very cringe mechanics and I'm glad we're leaving those behind.

[craggy cairn]

I imagine that meme where paleontologists are digging up someone’s gravestone and just say “holy moly sans undertale” when I run into this kind of thing

I don’t know why, might have something to do with shortcuts in my brain

[hot gate]

I'm imagining the one with the guy doing the peace sign in front of a grave, the title of the grave reading "whatever Gary Gygax thought was cool".

[hidden spindle]

Barry Allen. Grant Gustin

[craggy cairn]

Think this specific shortcut in my head might have to do with the original meme being a parody of someone saying something about gender I do not agree with

But it’s specifically the fact that the meme relates to gender that makes it a shortcut

[craggy cairn]

I know exactly what you’re talking about

Also, the list of items for that gravestone does include a number of Gygaxian characters (||Curse of Strahd canonically had claimed one of them.||)

Sucks, really.

[woven halo]

What dnd book should buy?

[hot gate]

At least that one makes for a great villain!

[hot gate]

Well, what are you looking for?

[woven halo]

Another book

Like one with more places

[craggy cairn]

Very much looking forward to beating the absolute crap out of Strahd once we finish our 100% completionist run

[hot gate]

So, a campaign book? One with an adventure inside? Or more of a setting book without a concrete narrative?

[woven halo]

Like one with another place

Like a new continent

[ivory shale]

btw i really want to run dcc

[fresh patrol]

Okay, I gotta ask this, players or DMs alike. How do you generally use conlang in your world, should you have one?

Like, is it just for flavour, or it's part of the mechanics like players don't understand it at all?

[craggy cairn]

Conlang?

[fresh patrol]

Constructed languages, like languages that you made up

[still plover]

Constructed languages. Like Klingon, Sylvan or Dothraki.

Rarely. Titles and terms mostly.

[fresh patrol]

I think I went overboard then

[still plover]

As a player, no worries, sprinkle it into your dialogue. As a DM, give the players handouts with some common terms that might come up and try not to over-use them. They want to play the game.

[shy stirrup]

Yea I'll sprinkle words into dialogue, sometimes explaining what they mean, sometimes not, and I'll borrow words from languages that are or should be fairly obscure to the players, like Provencal, or Latin, or Middle English - I'm no Tolkien, certainly no philologist or linguist, so I'm certainly not inventing my own language, even if I had the ability.

[still plover]

The lectern is cluttered with junk: a half-dismantled cogitator lies next to a vox relay, antennae bent and drooping, while a servo skull on the corner stares blindly, optics dark.

What's on the table?

[craggy cairn]

I like how in BG3 certain Githyanki words are slipped into the English, I think that’s a cool way to do Conlang

[shy stirrup]

Yea I think that's a good template to work from

Lae'zel in BG3 will speak Githyanki words - sometimes whole sentences, but she will (or you could as the DM) explain them, translate them

[fresh patrol]

I was thinking of a scenario where the party would have a local guide NPC, and when they go shopping, the guide would translate that

It’s just to kind of highlight that the PCs are not from this specific region

I think I managed to get a few hundred words down and make a whole conversation too

Maybe that’s too much?

[still plover]

For those playing, it's ||a computer, a radio set and a drone.|| And I wouldn't even say they were especially exotic sounding terms.

[craggy cairn]

True, it would start getting crazy when you get to Grox

[still plover]

Servitor is one for me. What the word is in our dictionary doesn't convey what it describes in the setting.

[marble lion]

its completely fine to have incomprehensible language too and using it

but only as a stimulation of senses while describing things that the players are meant not to understand

like for example 2 demons grunting to each other in abyssal wouldnt be understood by most parties

a patrol walking past them may have the DM do a little voice and a sentence in their language, just to paint a picture

its the same as describing a creatures appearance

[still plover]

"Jaffa, cree!"

[cerulean monolith]

I think the dragons in Skyrim should be the extent of conlangs. They frequently speak in their own language, but usually only when it’s impossible to express the idea in the common tongue. And, most importantly, they try their best to translate after each sentence

[marble lion]

ofc this shouldnt be too long though as its unintelligable and probably made up nonsense

[marble lion]

when speaking to a humanoid yes

but there are more applications of language than talking to the players

and even then, what if a creature doesnt know common? then its used to show that

[cerulean monolith]

If a creature can’t communicate with the party, I don’t need to know what they’re saying either

[marble lion]

yeah and you dont need to know if a monsters eyes are shining red or not either but i will still describe it

its flavour. you dont need to do it but its usually appreciated in my experience

giving a quick sound bit of how a creature talks is enjoyable

[cerulean monolith]

I meant that we don’t need a conlang for that

[marble lion]

thats like saying DMs shouldnt ever do animal noises either

ah you mean actually constructing a system alright i get you

[cerulean monolith]

Why would I spend the enormous time dedicated to create a conlang for flavor? I’m speaking gibberish-with-a-flourish and the players can deal with it

[marble lion]

maybe its fun but yes unnecessary

i think youd already be going above and beyond to simply determine a vague style for the language

like which vowels to use more, which consonants to use, melody

[lucid nest]

It’s your game bud, do whatever you want.

[marble lion]

though to be fair, this applies to all conlangs doesnt it?

after all noone ever understands them in any media unless you actually decide to learn them

its not like anyone understands klingon by watching star trek

its still cool that if you do look into it it has actual meaning

[buoyant oar]

This is where speaking multiple languages has served me well take that job market.

[marble lion]

speaking klingon got you jobs?

[still plover]

I did have a little fun once pinning languages like celestial and abyssal to cosmological constants. Those particular two were such distinct mirrors of one another a speaker could extrapolate parts of the one they didn't know!

[buoyant oar]

No. But speaking English, Arabic, Spanish, and Italian has served me more in DND than it has in the job market.

[marble lion]

shame that

[crimson gulch]

I was in the liqour industry for years and I practiced all the names of all the wines from around the world so well folks would start speaking French German Spanish ect to me and I had to be like o no I just speak wine

[marble lion]

You cant say that but misspell liquor

[crimson gulch]

Yeah I can, my typing is Garbage

[spring light]

looks like he did

[crimson gulch]

if i had to make my living off of the quality of my writing i would have starved to death, thats for sure

[knotty basin]

Seems a bit odd that you chose to be a professional DM, then

[crimson gulch]

why? players dont pay me for what i write, they pay me to run games

im not sitting there writing things, im preforming

[knotty basin]

Fair point

[crimson gulch]

and really, i fell backwards into this, this was not planned but holy moly has it been great

[knotty juniper]

Why is D&D Beyond asking for my birthday and location/jurisdiction?

[crimson gulch]

new laws about age verification for stuff i think

[pliant sapphire]

#ddb-support message

[knotty juniper]

Thank you so much for a direct link. Was confused.

[buoyant oar]

I run custom Campaigns for my Professional games. Mainly because I just don't vibe with WotC's Adventure design. For long term campaigns.

[crimson gulch]

im about 50 50, and when i create a custom campaign its not something that people see my notes on its all just private writing that in no way approches publishability

lets see now of all my current professional campaigns, The Moonshae islands is a custom campaign, the Shattered Teeth is custom, and my calimport Campaign is custom, but then im also running The keep on the borderlands, Tyrrany of Dragons and Dungeon of the mad mage as professional campaigns. I love running the modules personally they save me so much time

[buoyant oar]

When I do run modules the first thing I always toss is how WotC writes their endings. The Pack it in Pack it out mentality doesn't work for me.

[crimson gulch]

That's the last thing I allways do, because it's impossible to anticipate and ending for a campaign that is built by the choices the players make along the way

[buoyant oar]

Yeah I didn't say I re write them. I just toss them out completely.

[crimson gulch]

I allways juice up the final boss fights a lot too

None of them are ever challenging enough as written

My next campaign that is likely to end is either the dungeon of the mad mage or the expedition to the Shattered teeth, and in either case he's not it

[cinder timber]

How do you think of so many homebrew campaigns?

[crimson gulch]

Well all of my exandrian custom campaigns have been me exploring lose ends from the critical role campaigns, that has been years of games across many campaigns.

The moonshae Islands campaign and the calimport campaigns I am running were oh this nee setting guide has chapters here, hit the gas.

And my previous custom campaign was based on a meme "the forest will not be harmed if the lorax is armed"

Currently over half of my games are custom campaigns but historically I have ran more modules

I kinda just have ran all the modules that wotc has published so here I am doing the diy route

Oh and my dark harvest campaign was pure inspiration from the new monster manual where the new vampire umbral lord had hunger of hadar, and I'm like, hungry vampires instead of strahd, here we go!

[glossy narwhal]

Is it weird that Stranger Things got me back into DnD?

[knotty basin]

Nope, stranger things was how I first heard about D&D

[cerulean patio]

Got a question, what are people’s thoughts on playing the same character through different campaign? Say you really like that specific character/levels into what

[knotty basin]

Don’t force it

[crimson gulch]

not at all, that has gotten ALOT of folks into the game, any path in is fine, welcome!

[glossy narwhal]

Recently my friends and I did the Cult of Vecna campaign just for the fun of it. And I was one of the last ones standing, and by a stroke of luck, managed to finish Vecna off by setting him on fire with a fireball. The ending was actually pretty funny since my character threw his hands in the air and ran around screaming in victory

[crimson gulch]

this is a recipy for disaster when players get the streams crossed and think that their charicters experiences from one game carries over into others, with other groups and other dms

[glossy narwhal]

My character is just plain weird

[cerulean patio]

It’s not even that, I just really like the character. Plus it’s my only one with actual art for him. I don’t mind bending his background to fit the campaign. Plus I just like playing a monk barbarian which are his levels. (The only campaign I did with him was 3 three sessions before the dm disappeared )

[dark salmon]

I got a question
If im way awkward and couldn't answer or reply and think that im doing a really bad job at playing and think that im making the game/session unappealing or too awkward

[still plover]

As a player or DM?

[dark salmon]

Playr

[harsh hinge]

Some folks do play the same character (conceptually, anyway) game to game. Matt Colville calls these folks "specialists." I would get bored myself, but if that's what you find fun and it fits the table, have at it!

[still plover]

An example might help, if you have one.

[crimson gulch]

socializing and reacting quickly are something that no one gets right at first, and the only way to get better at it is to do it more, like exercise

[cerulean patio]

I also feel like I do that sometimes but it’s mostly cause I’m not as quick witted or used to portraying my character yet. Maybe I’m just not used to it, idk your experience but I say just try and build your confidence up first which did help with me.

[dark salmon]

Ok so we were having a sci fi typ mission but im more of a middevil kinda of player and when the session started I had to come up with a new character or modify my character on the spot and it was brutally embarrassing cus I didn't know what to do or keep up so I couldn't continue and now I think that i ruined the vibes

[cerulean patio]

Wait. Is the campaign medieval or sci-fi?

[still plover]

I feel that's on your DM not making sure the players were all ready to begin, not you.

[dark salmon]

Sci_fi

But they where trying to do an new thing

Mostly we play adventures medival

[cerulean patio]

Were you informed before the session it was sci-fi?

[still plover]

The pitch should give some details of the setting. Session Zero should be where you get more information and make appropriate characters with buy-in for the first adventure. That's all on the DM to arrange.

[dark salmon]

Yes and I had to come up with new lore for my character and modify it to be at the same scale as the plot

[dark salmon]

I guess but I wasn't expecting it to be this hard

[still plover]

Any interaction with your DM between then and table time?

[dark salmon]

Nah I just left and when we talked later they were not mentioning what happened

I thought it was cool but it wasn't I think so that's why I left for good

[still plover]

I mean between getting the prompt to make a character for the setting and the time of the actual game.

[dark salmon]

Oh yeah they said if the settings is overwhelming I can just come up with things at the spot and said ok

[still plover]

Ok, so. Players are dime a dozen. If you've been picked for a game it's because the DM wants you there. If you need help, ask for it and a good DM will do what they can to get you sorted.

The key is to not be afraid of asking. Nobody knows everything. It's okay to admit to it.

[bronze wave]

I know everything

But I do agree with the premise of asking your dm. Sci-fi is tough to play imo

Never liked it much

[lethal otter]

Hello world how are yall

[empty thicket]

good, too good honestly. Just rolled stats for a character and...

12
13
16
17
15
8
I got giga good rolls and idk if i go something else with such good stats

But those are giga good stats for a wizard

[shy stirrup]

Very nice indeed

[vast pelican]

Seeing as all my campaigns thus far have ended prematurely, I've been doing this just for the chance to actually play out my character.

[glad arch]

was there someone else there to confirm them?

[lethal otter]

18
18
14
14
12
8.
For my latest character

[vast pelican]

Except for my Eberron group, did a totally different character for that because I got way too into the lore.

[empty thicket]

yeah, wait, i can ping in this channel or is forbidden?

[glad arch]

pinging is fine, especially if you know the person

[humble cairn]

It's not a channel wide thing, it's a user by user thing.

[empty thicket]

okey okey

[humble cairn]

If the user has "do not ping me" in their nick, don't ping them.

[glad arch]

or if they ask you

[vast pelican]

As it is, my repeats of the same core character have all come with substantial revisions or setting-specific details.

[empty thicket]

@dusk adder confirm that those were my rolls for stats please

[empty thicket]

Here

[glad arch]

oowh no i believe you lol, just making sure youll be able to use those stats in your campaign

usually you need a witness

[empty thicket]

i dont have reasons to lie
Using them for a wizard that couldnt use in a past campaign. Now he will be more durable but wont be strong.

[snow zephyr]

Darksun has some awesome monsters

[still plover]

What's one you'd like to use?

[snow zephyr]

I forget the name, but it's the water vampire

It drains characters of water to heal itself

[still plover]

Rough. Could work in a forbidden desert kind of region, sure.

[snow zephyr]

Then there's the cactus grenadier with the harpoon spines

[still plover]

Extra forbidden desert.

[snow zephyr]

On athis it's a right pain, if anyone succumbs to dehydration everyone has to make wisdom saving throws

[still plover]

How come?

[snow zephyr]

Because it's a desert world and dying to dehydration can turn you into a zombie

It's temporary insanity trying to get water

To wit "becomes chaotic evil for the purpose of obtaining water"

[sacred pilot]

Got Candlekeep since the release of the eberron and faerun books been delayed for germany by two months. Anything else I should get for it besides SCAG? Maybe Avernus?

[fiery nimbus]

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government

[snow zephyr]

No, but owning a pond means you're already in a government at the top

[rough basalt]

On Athas everything is pain

[snow zephyr]

The psionics are cool though

[rough basalt]

True.
Also there is one way to experience joy on Athas

[snow zephyr]

Low magic setting because it's post-apocalypse of the magical variety iirc

[rough basalt]

And that's to enjoy causing others pain

[snow zephyr]

To steal it from others

[lethal otter]

Whats discussion about?

[snow zephyr]

The dark sun setting, and some stuff that would be neat for 5e

I do think the emphasis on trade and status is neat

Your barbarian has stuff to do outside combat because they can be a merchant noble

[potent prawn]

Is the strongest spell in DND wish?

[snow zephyr]

Yes, but not in the lore

[fossil hollow]

in the current game, yeah

[snow zephyr]

It's basically all the other spells and it comes with dlc

[clear lark]

Maybe, or just more versatile. Just depends on how silly a DM want's to be with it.

[silver dock]

dwarves will turn 127 and make one of these their entire personality
🪨⛏️
🍻
⚒️🗡️
💍❌

[shy stirrup]

DM: What is your wish?
Player: For a ring of Unlimited Wishes
DM: Sure, why not

[empty thicket]

The ring will drain 1d4 of hp permanently from you.

If used more than one time per week will add 2d4 per use.

[reef tundra]

It might not translate well to dnd but I’ve always had an idea for a way to limit 3 wishes best, I had the idea that the soul can only handle altering reality so many times, and will crumble under the magic awe of the wishes after the third

[stoic obsidian]

Only if they use beyond casting a leveled spell

[empty thicket]

I get this point honestly, but would make it only if the wish is... "too strong"

[dapper cloud]

The ring is sentient and only lets through the wishes it likes.

Which is not many.

[empty thicket]

"I wish for a cheese wheel that last for forever"

[reef tundra]

You have a good point.
Imagine spending all three wishes just asking for a new pen or something, then dropping dead after asking for a 4th

[knotty pasture]

I wish to long rest whenever we want without restrictions 🙏

[reef tundra]

Eh, I don’t think I’ll be translating it to dnd any time soon

[knotty pasture]

Just spam long rest until you can cast Wish again

[dapper cloud]

“I’m a ring, I can’t eat that.”

[stoic obsidian]

What the ring itself becomes a cheese wheel?

Or it turns one of the party members into a cheese wheel

……. Yup I am evil

[empty thicket]

Not just that, make limits in what is a strong wish and what isnt.
Wishing for all your spells slots to fill back is strong.
Wishing for gold isnt too strong.
Etc. etc.

[clear lark]

Sounds good except the soul is indestructible. I would assume the spirit is too for beings like Elves a Dwarves. Unless these things have changed since Deities and Demigods 1e.

[reef tundra]

Wish in dnd already hurts me, I don’t think I’ll be taking this leap any time soon

[empty thicket]

"i have to wish things that you must use too or i can wish for funny things?"

[reef tundra]

Hence why I said I’m not translating it to dnd

[stoic obsidian]

The spell or wishes in general

[dapper cloud]

“You can wish for funny things if I find them funny.”

[reef tundra]

The spell wish in dnd

[stoic obsidian]

It not as bad as you think

[empty thicket]

"what is funny for you?, wait, you know what, i wish for you having a spectral shape that i could talk with. Im getting tired of people looking me weird for talking to my hand"

[reef tundra]

Bad as in OP or bad as in, bad?

[stoic obsidian]

Well you have chance for them not be able to it cast anymore, or you can monkey paw their wish

Frankly it also cost a 9th level spell slot

[empty thicket]

I would prefer monkey paw and only in some really hard cases block further wishes

[stoic obsidian]

This in the spell itself

Frankly the best use is to cast a 8 or lower level spell and that’s it

[reef tundra]

I never thought it was OP

[stoic obsidian]

Then what your exact problem with it

[reef tundra]

Nothing

[empty thicket]

Its... a malleable spell. You can "choose" (depend of the dm) what you can with it

[clear lark]

It's been a running joke for decades for DM's pour ice water on Wishes. I mean wishes don't have to be in reason, that's why they are wishes. If you wish your opponent dead, then they should die, and not transport you some time in the future whe they die of old age or something (thus removing you from the campaign). But wishing for more wishes just cancels the spell and you lost the slot.

[stoic obsidian]

Okay, guess I miss the plot

[reef tundra]

I was just saying about how my “the soul can only handle 3 wishes” idea I’ve had for years wouldn’t translate well to dnd

It’s alright, Ty for telling it to me anyway, I’ve never actually seen it at the table, so it was still helpful

[stoic obsidian]

Plus it can fail already

And that depends on if a campaign reach the level were that possible

[empty thicket]

the soul thing i find it good
But i would do that you are capable of healing the soul in some ways

[reef tundra]

Every time I’ve been in a level 17+ campaign the players and I tend to use other 9th level spells

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah the wish spell is break glass in case of emergency

[reef tundra]

the point of the idea was to punish a character’s greed and megalomaniacy

[empty thicket]

yeah, lvl 5+ spells are...Storm or vengeance, dark star, sunburst, meteorite swarm, ravenous void are really scary spells

The fact that a wizard can STOP TIME literally make the idea of wish not so... out of place

Or other things, just the idea of Ravenous void sound so violent that not even doing glory kill like a fighter i can reach such level

[stoic obsidian]

Until a swarm of monsters get to you before you cast it

[empty thicket]

imagine being in an army, going to attack some town and suddenly half of your squad is literally "annihilated"

[empty thicket]

1000 feets

[clear lark]

You are talking about spells I apparently don't have access. Ravenous void

[stoic obsidian]

Unless, they surprise you

Behind your back

[empty thicket]

yeah, its the classic rock paper scissors. A wizard can do that much harm but if me a fighter win initiative or surprise attack him i literally obliterate him

[stark arch]

is this a thing? buying a book to learn a new skill. like learning wood working trough books than after compleeting the study of the book to gain a proficiency in wood working tools ?

[empty thicket]

Yep, its a lvl 9 spell. One of many spells capable of change warzones

[knotty basin]

No, but there are rules for using a book to get a bonus to a check

[stoic obsidian]

Same with monster vs adventurers

[knotty basin]

I think it’s +5? I’m not sure if it’s single use or not.

[empty thicket]

And dont even have like component price too high, just a "a small, nine-pointed star made of iron"

[empty thicket]

Yep, if there is a monster that can nullify spells then the caster take a L.
If the creature is too dangerous to even get close then the martials take the L

[clear lark]

One of those spells that didn't make it to the PHB revision

[stoic obsidian]

Or if the monster got range then it a problem

[empty thicket]

That is where the party must have a balance and role

[stoic obsidian]

Exactly

But not every table follow that to a T

[empty thicket]

Adapt to each problem.
If there is a paladin or fighter protecting a caster while is concentrating in a strong spell.
Or a caster is giving a buff to an ally so it take care of an enemy easily, etc. etc.
At the end of the day is a team game too

[stoic obsidian]

Yuppers

[empty thicket]

It depends obviously, each other can talk and make strats

Plans between each other like it or not. Communication is the key and letting at one side the ego too.

[stoic obsidian]

Adaptation is the best skill for combat and social situations

But you must balance that with the spotlight

[empty thicket]

Each one can have their own spotlight in their moments

[stoic obsidian]

Too

[stoic obsidian]

I was talking about bards ( or high charisma characters build around cha skill rolls) to not do all the talking

[empty thicket]

one session the fighter can literally in a fight obliterate everyone
In another the bard can persuade someone important and make a key movement
A wizard can discover something special
etc. etc.

[stoic obsidian]

Okay what about the wizard making a persuasion check?

[stark arch]

im thinking at lvl 8 i can shoose a feat and i also get like 2 lvl 4 spell slots as wizard. i could take 3 proficencys in tools Carpenter's tools, Smith's tools, Tinker's tools, with that i could produce siege weapons like cannons

[stoic obsidian]

You think everyone gonna talk to the bard?

This is what mean, because yes you have a roll doesn’t mean that the only thing you should do

[crimson gulch]

most times my players are living and playing in the moment and i get barbarians investigating, monks pursuading and bards trying to study the arcane no one playing to their skills just everyone doing what they are naturally doing in the Roleplay and its great

[humble cairn]

I have more than once played the type of character who knows what they're good at, and also knows what they're bad at, and will call in another character to apply their expertise.

Though the DM can of course put any particular character on the spot.

[clear lark]

Less team game, more co-op

[humble cairn]

Wait, what's the difference here?

[shy stirrup]

Maybe it's because I DM'd before skills were a thing, but I see a PC's background, class, etc., as informing their skill checks, like if a Fighter with 8 WIS wants to perceive something about an enemy's tactics, say, I'd lower the DC and/or give Advantage, or even just straight up tell them what they want to know

[normal sonnet]

hi

[crimson gulch]

thats contrary to current guidance from the DMG, the DC of a check should be consistant, not based on who is doing it.

[shy stirrup]

Key word: guidance

[humble cairn]

I like Passive Skills for this, but generally leave DCs where they are. Giving Adv on a Passive Skill gives a +5.

[crimson gulch]

does an enemys AC change depeneding on who is attacking? why should the DC to study or search for it

[shy stirrup]

Simply because its less difficult

[fossil hollow]

thats what Advantage would be for

[shy stirrup]

And like I said, often I'll just tell them what they want to know, if I judge it's something this PC reasonably ought to figure out

due to background, class etc

[humble cairn]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[crimson gulch]

and thats perfectly fine to do, many things can be done without a skill check

being made to roll for every little thing can get very tiresom

its when risk and uncertianty is called for do we roll

but be consistant, its about the action they are taking, if its something that carries a risk, any player should roll for it

[shy stirrup]

Just giving them the info, rather than calling for a roll, I feel can also be more satisfying for the player when its tied to what the PC is - you know this because of who you are, because of the choices you've made, not because of some random dice roll, but obviously in cases where the outcome is uncertain, that's where dice come in - or if I as the DM feel I have some kind of bias in the situation, I'll let the dice decide

[valid geyser]

yeah i am usually fine with there being knowledge you dont need to roll for

i remember i had a barbarian fail the check to recognize the symbol of his own god, pretty embarrassing

he was trying not to play into the stereotypes, he was an elderly scholar with like, a 14 intelligence

[empty thicket]

slipping 5gp into the tavern worker hand so it give me the info instead of making a check would be something

or 10 if its more important

but the point is there, making "moves" so you can not do checks, bride someone, say some clever words, etc. etc.

[shy stirrup]

Absolutely - player actions can often, in my mind, supersede a check or roll, do something so well, so smoothly, hit or guess the NPC's motivations so well that the outcome is virtually assured, why call for a check? 🤷‍♂️

Its just gg congrats you win

You beat the game and its dice

[empty thicket]

checks can be used too for drive things in some ways. Hel you too or just let the dice decide an outcome for the jajas

Roll seduce, fail it but my character have already lots of charisma. Roleplay it like you try something like drinking some martinni and suddenly the olive slip into your throat and you are kinda chocking and spit out the olive at the face of the person you are trying to seduce

Be creative is nice

[shy stirrup]

And yea this is where rigid adherence to the check system runs off the rails, where its illogical, implausible

[hollow stone]

i know one DM who has checks that increase for every try, like a lock that gets increasingly harder to pick the more people try

[crimson gulch]

Yeah, there's rules for repeating attempts after failing

[humble cairn]

The system itself says that the DM gets to decide whether a roll is called for at all, rather than suggesting everything should be a roll.

[shy stirrup]

Of course, but from what I hear and read, not all DMs have seemingly gotten this memo

[fossil hollow]

thats a DM issue

[crimson gulch]

Doing it wrong Is a hazard of the job allright

[fossil hollow]

plus, we all know most DnD players cant read

[hot gate]

Strict adherence to the rules would actually improve this sort of aspect. Especially in the 2024 rules.

[crimson gulch]

Yeah it's a peeve of mine when a player asks can I roll x.

I'm like, what are are you attempting to do?

[shy stirrup]

Yea the "what are you trying to do" clarification question works wonders

[empty thicket]

yeah, tell it to me, i forgot my race features and was being with less damage outpost and survival than others

[crimson gulch]

Because that's the natural flow of the game, taking actions and then the roll gets called if needed

I described a mound of soft earth last night and the monk was like I'm gonna dig with my shovel, and had her dice ready, so I just describe the dirt being scooped and the thing buried being found

[empty thicket]

Indeed, last session my party had to face some harpys giving troubles and instead of rolling something like "persuasion" or "intimidation" i spoke my way
"We arent bad, we didnt mean any harm to anyone"
Me: Yeah, we understood, its just your nature. But your nature harmed people and i must take actions on that. Stopping you in a way or another.
"are you threatening us?"
-Im not, im speaking the facts. If some animal come and harm your nest, you wont stop it or take it down in any mean?

They gave us the artifact that made most of the problems, a rock that amplified their voices and promised to sing further next times so people dont get harmed

[stoic obsidian]

I like to attempt to perceived the unperceived

By using my feet

[clear lark]

Not anymore but this used to be true in D&D when it came to weapon types

[crimson gulch]

yeah, old eidtions were very different that is for certian

im reading the 1987 moonshae island books and its going into some really granular detail that you just dont see anymore

[clear lark]

Facts

[marble lion]

i do the opposite if anything. if your characters features inform me that youre good at perceiving things, i will sometimes just let you notice something without a roll etc

why would you make it easier for someone to do a skill that they are worse at?

[fossil hollow]

-# speaking of which, did you see my bladesinger? 👀 Shes from there

[marble lion]

that makes no sense does it?

"hey your thief has mastered lockpicking for years, thats why i make the DC higher for you"?

did i just misunderstand this?

[stoic obsidian]

I wonder if okay to talk in your regular voice, but change your mannerisms a bit

[marble lion]

it is okay yes

you can still change tone as well

you can talk a bit higher or lower, thats not doing a voice imo

[fossil hollow]

having a distinct voice for your character is never a need. Nobody is telling you you have to be a voice actor for DND

[marble lion]

tone and mannerisms are way more important than the actual distinct voice

[fossil hollow]

vocab and cadence are big yeah

[marble lion]

audiobooks read by a great 1-voice reader are so much better than the ones with 10 actors who do distinct voices but are all worse at it than the one guy

[crimson gulch]

Excellent voice work is something that I find elevates the experience, but is not required

[crimson gulch]

Oh not yet, are they in the campaign?

[empty thicket]

true, but i still try to use some kind of words with a character, so its determinated the ways of him.

With one that have not so much charisma i am more harsh with words and direct, showing my lack of speaking skills.
With another that is a merchant i try to be more civilized, kind and clever with them

[stoic obsidian]

I wonder because I feel a bit self conscious of it

Like I try to do a bit of a voice

[crimson gulch]

Practice practice practice is key

[stoic obsidian]

I know

[fossil hollow]

should be yeah, i finished her yesterday

[empty thicket]

add some little habits if you want to them too, "hey there little one"// "Hi there (Insert name of character who are you speaking to)"

[wispy wing]

Think about movies. Actors seldom (never) change their voice but still can play a bunch of different characters with very different features.

So you dont need to put on a particular voice if you don't like.

[gleaming lodge]

You don't need to "put on" a voice; just make an effort to put yourself into your character's mind. How do they form sentences? Are they irritable, optimistic, or glum?

[buoyant oar]

NPR is your friend. You will learn about the world and learn many different ways to speak.

[fossil hollow]

NPR?

[proven mountain]

National Public Radio in the United States

[fossil hollow]

ah ic

[stoic obsidian]

I don’t listen to the radio

[crimson gulch]

ah, never did listien to that

[empty thicket]

I already have some for my accent, that is a thing playing with people from other countries

I try to justify it with that my character is from far lands most of the times. I will see if my Dm let me make that Spanish is orkish in our campaign

[inner silo]

Is there any difference between unearthed arcana and forge of the artificer subclasses?

[fossil hollow]

Unearthed Arcana is playtest material

[inner silo]

I mean, are they mechanically different

[fossil hollow]

a bit

[inner silo]

Are there any big differences for the alchemist?

[fossil hollow]

#1026901431132885064

[stoic obsidian]

Playtest material are the material being tested for balanced and more, so yeah they may be different, and a lot of DMs may or may not allow it at tables

[inner silo]

Oki, thanks

[tidal ginkgo]

ANYONE WANT TO JOIN A DND CAMPAIGN DM ME

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[hushed mason]

If only finding older edition games were so easy as going to #find-a-game 😉

[dense nacelle]

Is darkness the best second level spell? Dnd enthusiasts say “maybe idk”

[crimson gulch]

nah, its a mixed bag

[fossil hollow]

why would it be the best? Its a double edged sword

[valid geyser]

it's ok, but more times than not it also messes with both sides

[hushed mason]

Darkness is easily overcome with Daylight, isn't it? Or is that not a thing...

[fossil hollow]

daylight the spell yes

[snow agate]

it is but how many enemies actually have daylight

[valid geyser]

it is but its not like many creatures have that spell

[hushed mason]

Sounds like a great way for your DM to mess with you. 😄

[fossil hollow]

whats more likely to happen is Dispel Magic on it, or the Darkness doesnt do anything for the enemy because of alternative sight options

doesnt work against blindsight and tremorsense for example

[snow agate]

it is exceptional vs humanoids and works very well as basically the ultimate moveable smoke grenade

[valid geyser]

and then again fog cloud is also a spell that exists

[snow agate]

i cant put a fog cloud on a rock and move it

[valid geyser]

most time ive seen darkness thrown out, it's never really been moved around

[snow agate]

sounds like an L move tbh

[valid geyser]

but moving it around is the good part of it, i was just putting my conjecture

[snow agate]

i would also note that its moveable and coverable so its relatively solid to hand to say your rogue for example

[valid geyser]

yeah i will say one of the casters ive seen cast darkness also makes weird spell choices, when they casted darkness the next turn they decided to cast cause fear on a single enemy dropping concentration, but ig it worked out because somehow the DM decided that 1st level spell would instakill a yuan ti abomination (hooray for nat 20 intimidation checks while casting the spell???)

[crimson gulch]

so many more monsters can see in magical darkness than players can

[snow agate]

also familiars

[valid geyser]

i was actually happy about darkness being up since my character was already fighting while blinded due to no darkvision, so it wouldve only equalized the battle, but instantly dropping the scariest monster in the encounter is more useful, even if i felt it stole my thunder

[snow agate]

darkness with a bat familiar is almost cheating with how good it is

[prisma mason]

If I remember right devils sight on warlock makes it so you can see through darkness

[fossil hollow]

but only you

[valid geyser]

well your party cant

[prisma mason]

Yeah that's fine lol I can sit in my dark orb

[snow agate]

kind of a non-issue if you're in a combat with more than one enemy too

because then you can segment the fight and focus fire

[valid geyser]

depends on the situation itself

[oblique breach]

Heyoo chat

[still plover]

Oh, always. Last time I saw darkness in a game it was cover for a goblin matron to evacuate the kids when armed intruders burst into their home.

[valid geyser]

i forget that fog cloud gets bigger if you upcast it

[still plover]

G'day. What's shaking?

[valid geyser]

level 5 spell slot, cover an 100 foot radius of fog. Basically an entire battlefield

[snow agate]

if only dms had large maps

[fossil hollow]

my players complain my maps are too big (i have too many maps for giant homes)

[crimson gulch]

I use big dungeons

The focus is usually on one room at a time

[valid geyser]

yeah usually like, a 30 foot radius is enough for 90% of battles, especially since obscurement applies both ways

[frail wasp]

"Good"

[valid geyser]

i forgot isnt there a fog cloud like spell that just continually grows? i thought cloudkill did that but i think its more moving in a direction and not growing

[fossil hollow]

Doomsomething in the new book

[crimson gulch]

Dirge?

[fossil hollow]

Doomtide

[buoyant oar]

"Get better Internet I guess" /s

[valid geyser]

p sure doomtide is also just moving away from you

[oblique breach]

Nothing I was feeling bored so I thought I'd chat : )

wbu?

[fossil hollow]

might be. Circle casting might be how you expand it

[valid geyser]

i think circle casting just makes it expand on a range to a mile and last until dispelled, but that is still cool/useful

[still plover]

Painfully little. I should work something up for the Infamous like I said I would.

[oblique breach]

Ahh I get it you'll do great whenever you start working on it

[raw ocean]

I finally found a new campaign, Im probably going to play a human fighter for a classic

[prisma mason]

What kinda weapons?

I'm playing a half orc fighter rn in bg3

[raw ocean]

Probably two handed weapons for damage

Greatswords, mauls, etc.

[prisma mason]

I'm doing champion so more Crit and I got a sword that gives me life steal every Crit

It's a good time so far

[craggy cairn]

Got an idea for a beast master ranger character in a corporate-style setting where they have some kind of disability (in my head, chronic magic sickness/overflow) and their beast companion is the equivalent of a magical service animal

[fading musk]

Ok

[craggy cairn]

Indeed

It is a concept of all time

[plain bolt]

@ivory mirage am here

[fading musk]

Im here too

[buoyant oar]

I'm not

[glass granite]

Hi here too, I’m Nugget

[glass granite]

Hi not, I’m Nugget

Ok maybe I should cut it out
I apologise

[buoyant oar]

No you're not. You are NuggetN

[still plover]

Noo! I was only joking!

[glass granite]

I see, so your name was Only Joking before it became Mr Smith?

[potent siren]

Dastardly!

[glass granite]

Oh we pulling out the big words

[solar crow]

I'm excited we're finally at the fight to get the amulet we've been trying to get my parties whole entire campaign

[glass granite]

Remember: no matter what you think will happen, do NOT underestimate the power of the dm going “now wouldn’t it be interesting if I add this : D”

[solar crow]

We killed the thing

[glass granite]

Hooray!

[heavy zealot]

Chat any tips on how to update the "Vecna Lives!' campaign for 2024 rules? It's an old campaign (1980s 2e) so I was just wondering for any tips?

[glass granite]

Wow that’s older than me

[heavy zealot]

I'm planning to just use flesh golem and beholder for reflavored hand and eye golems from the module

[minor lake]

somebody might have done it there is a guy who re-did all of Temple of Elemental Evil for 5e and his passion is like revamping old 80s modules

i'll find his name for u

The TOEE revamp was done by Goodman Games but it's looking like all the Vecna revamps i can find are pretty homebrew

[heavy zealot]

It's not a very well known campaign

[minor lake]

I don't know the campaign super well myself but i will keep hunting

[heavy zealot]

My biggest issue with updating it myself is replacing all the stat blocks while keeping the same challenge rating

[solar crow]

Officially halfway through my first ever D&D campaign!!

[minor lake]

maybe u could pull monsters from 5e that are similar in vibe and CR

[minor lake]

nice!!!!!

[minor lake]

it's time consuming but i like running test encounters w monsters like that

obviously tho u might not have time for every enemy

[solar crow]

Thank you!!

[heavy zealot]

Yeah I have vecnas stat block finished (cr 26) and some of the cultists reflavored as cult fanatics . As well as a beholder boss for the eye golem.

[minor lake]

that sounds great

i feel like there are some vecna-style enemies that made their way into 5e

[slim shale]

hello i am DMing a funny one shot. was wondering where to find resources for templates of enemies, checklists on what to do to prepare like what i need to get ready (this is my first and only time DMing)

[minor lake]

like that beholder boss

[heavy zealot]

I looked at some Vecna eve of ruin content for help. Which helped a bit

[craggy summit]

hehe im running that book 🤙 very fun book to DM so far

[heavy zealot]

I didn't want to do Vecna eve of ruin cause I heard it wasn't as good as the originals but it's a sham that the originals don't actually have you fight vecna one on one

[silent estuary]

yo guys, is there a particular site/space where there are homebrew-fanmade stories/worlds etc? Or just sharing concepts?

[craggy summit]

I haven't played or ran any of the originals so I don't know how much my opinion matters 😅 but I definitely like eve of ruin so far!

[knotty basin]

Maybe DM’s Guild

[heavy zealot]

Gmbinder is really good

[knotty basin]

I don’t think there’s one for a non-D&D context, though

[craggy summit]

None that I know specifically. I'm sure you can find some forums on say, reddit for example of people sharing their ideas, and theres also a #homebrew channel

[silent estuary]

yeah hombrew is a mix of class, races, spells and so on tho

[silent estuary]

is that a site or a server

[silent estuary]

site or a server?

[glass granite]

Doesn’t that describe #dm-world-building ?

[silent estuary]

i guess it might be enough

[heavy zealot]

Site, just look up gmbinder. Got good hb stuff

[sick pumice]

Who here has heard "Three kolbolds in a trenchcoat"

[abstract sage]

hi

[silent estuary]

sup

[heavy zealot]

Banger

[lavish flame]

DDB website got a huge overhaul omg

[inner silo]

Yo guys! What happens when a player dies mid session? Like do they immediately roll up a new character and the dm tries to put them into the story?

[lavish flame]

They usually sit out of the rest of the session on account of having no character. Then, between sessions, the player and the DM work out ways to possibly introduce a new character or to get their Dead PC back alive.

[inner silo]

I see. Sounds rough, especially if you die early into a session

[past blaze]

and/or you get a revival spell

[craggy summit]

Different DM's and players can handle it differently. Sometimes the player might have a backup character sheet and the DM could find a way to introduce them ASAP. But traditionally it's what gwyn said

[lavish flame]

Yeah at later levels, you probably won't have to sit out for a while, as you can just get revived from death

"later levels" being "5th level and above"

[inner silo]

If you have a party member with a revival spell

[glass granite]

Revivifyyyy

[craggy summit]

Generous DM's might improv the players finding a resurrection scroll too

[solar crow]

Is it normal to feel like completely drained and exhausted after a big session and fight LOL

[glass granite]

84648%, yes

[proper skiff]

Assuming DM did not make it clear at the start of the campaign that all resurrection based spells are banned

[inner silo]

Alrighty

[glass granite]

People do that? I just make getting the materials for resurrection really annoying to get

[inner silo]

Thanks for the explanation!

[solar crow]

Yes to me or someone else? Lol

[crimson gulch]

giving the players a chance to greive is good, some folks speedrun that part though

[glass granite]

To you

[solar crow]

Ah

[inner silo]

I see. Will keep it in mind

[solar crow]

Alr cool cause I feel dead and didn't quite know why but we had our biggest fight yet for our last session this semester and halfway point of campaign

[restive blade]

yo guys

[old sluice]

It depends too much on the circumstances. Maybe the PCs have the materials and the spells to resurrect them just after or even during that fight. Maybe they do not. The corpse might be destroyed making resurrection impossible to anything but true resurrection. The corpse might be intact but the PCs might be lacking the materials and therefore might have to transport the corpse with them until they find the materials, or a caster capable of helping them.

[glass granite]

Wahzzup

[old sluice]

Sometimes a back-up character can be introduced, sometimes it would break the narrative too much. Sometimes the PCs have an NPC travelling with them and the player can take control of this NPC temporarily.

[glass granite]

There’s a term for it, but I don’t remember what…

It’s fairly common

[inner silo]

Alrighty. Will try to not die then, missing a session sounds miserable

[old sluice]

"Try not to die" is indeed the best advice that can be given

[restive blade]

thinking for lore for my oath of vengeance paladin, he is the older brother of my first character, but he died in the first fight session cause he got mauled by shadow corrupted wolves

[inner silo]

I'll ask my dm about a back up character. I feel like i might go out next session

[glass granite]

“None shall die needlessly. My journey starts with the death of a brother, and it will end as the last.”

Idk why, but when thinking of lore I like making quotes the character might say or relate to

[inner silo]

Sounds cool

[old sluice]

It can be a good idea in very lethal campaigns to introduce the back up characters as NPCs beforehand. That way it will feel narratively appropriate when they come up

[solar crow]

Term for generally feeling this way or for feeling this way specifically in this situation or both? Lol

[inner silo]

Oki!

[restive blade]

yep, he first joined the party to look for his little brother, cause the party kinda forgot to mention that he was dead, so when he found out, he turned to the oath of vengeance against all dark magic

[inner silo]

I'm going to roll to see what class I'll make the backup

[glass granite]

For feeling like sh%# after a really fun or engaging session. Iirc it’s because of a crash in reward hormones, or because during the high of having fun you forgot to look after your body (eat, drink water, etc.)

[restive blade]

he is also slated to find a talking snake in the next session who got transformed by dark magic, so he now has a clear vengeance against the dark magic, and the lore for the snake character can get tied to his

I'm gonna be such a menace with her

[old sluice]

Don't kill the snake. Snakes are pretty

[restive blade]

yeah she's a companion

[old sluice]

They get a bad reputation. I blame mythology

Hyenas also get a bad reputation and we know who is to blame

[restive blade]

dont worry, she hopefully wont die. she's basically cursed with semi immortality

[glass granite]

Eh

Your DM allowed a semi immortal character?

[solar crow]

DM hangover/ campaign burnout? Were you thinking of one of those? Lol

[chilly sky]

Hi

[glass granite]

Haven’t a clue

[restive blade]

its not a summon, she can't fight. its basically just her lore that she's ageless

[solar crow]

Ah

[long belfry]

Which shifter subtype is better for paladin I'm stuck between Beasthide and Swiftstride