dnd-discussion

[old sluice]

Yes and no. "Regular D&D world" is not a thing

[lyric idol]

Some of the specific ones, sure. But dwarven magic items are definitely made by artificers.

[snow agate]

dwarven wizards probably made like 50% of the magic items in the world tbh

[fossil hollow]

dwarves actually despise arcane magic in FR

[snow agate]

duly noted and discarded from my headcanon

[fossil hollow]

same here, never made too much sense honestly

rune magic is arcane usually

[old sluice]

In the Forgotten Realms, magic items tend to either be old or made by a currently living powerful spellcaster. If they are old, they're made by ancient dwarves, elves, giants, gods, fiends, celestials, netherese, imaskari and the likes.

[fossil hollow]

oh how can i forget the netherese

[hearty bay]

my barbarian despises magic because he's usually the target for it. His feud was slightly tamed by the fact our bard used enlarge on him once

[raw sonnet]

I'd asume it tastes more like pure agony

[old sluice]

If your magic item was made by Sarrukhs or Batrachi, I would recommend locking it up

[snow agate]

please only do this with your partys and dms approval

[lyric idol]

Done it gotta say: not nearly as fun as it seems.

[snow agate]

because if you're drunk and obnoxious and not paying attention it makes you unlikeable

[old sluice]

Because being drunk in a game that involves decision making can be a sign of disrespect to others and their time

[snow agate]

oh dear

[hearty bay]

you know what would be hilarious, playing AS a drunk

[old sluice]

I have played slightly drunk in the past, I would not recommend it. Not my proudest moment

[hearty bay]

drunken master gameplay

[fossil hollow]

against ToS and server rules

[coral river]

ty for the info

[old sluice]

Well, no, not slightly. I was borderline wasted at least once

[lyric idol]

It waa until we had our firsr encounter and we were all too wasted to do anything smart. Suddenly the game went from "haha this is fun" to "now everyones angry drunk and making new characters"

[hearty bay]

that doesn't work out as well, because you need your perception and acting skills to carry the act out

[glass granite]

As someone who’s DM’ing for a drunkard character, it can get old fast

(Forgot to specify)

[old sluice]

Any actual method actor will tell you getting drunk to play a drunk character is the stupidest idea possible.

[fossil hollow]

playing DnD drunk requires the same level of trust as doing anything else drunk

[hearty bay]

the full plate tank going home angry and sober

[snow agate]

not sure if mentioning weed or acid is within the rules either

[lyric idol]

Haha that actually would be fun. Sounds like a St. Pattys day DND game.

[old sluice]

Take it from me. I have played D&D borderline wasted. I had to spend a week apologising to everyone involved.

[lyric idol]

If everyones drinking its not as bad. Our DM tho got hella wasted and angry drunk. It def has its downsides.

[glass granite]

This is something that has to be discussed with the table

[old sluice]

That is not how acting works and that sort of reasoning is why so many actors end up having alcohol problems.

[rotund orchid]

damn you

[lyric idol]

I'm the same way. That and I like drinking outside becauss then I just stare at the sky for hours.

[glass granite]

Don’t slander the dragon, it’s just hungry

[old sluice]

Heath Ledger, the man who died overdosing on antidepressants and vodka in his hotel room?

[glass granite]

Then find a party that can do that and supports the playstyle

[lyric idol]

Go to somewhere like Yellowstone national park. Its a whole ahh experience.

[rotund orchid]

the dragon ate my Dexter gif

[glass granite]

It’s hangry

[fossil hollow]

themberchaud is a hungry boy

[rotund orchid]

I can tell it’s very moody td

[ivory shale]

hi

[fossil hollow]

all red dragons are moody

[rotund orchid]

I was unaware of this fact

[old sluice]

No it is not. Method acting does not lead to that.

[fossil hollow]

their moods just go from anger, mad, rage, and bloodthirst.

[ivory shale]

how to tell the DM to allow me to cast my cantrips without needing the materials?

[fossil hollow]

Show them a Component pouch

[old sluice]

What leads to that are deep mental issues that gnaw at people.

[ivory shale]

i wanted to cast light but i dont have many firefly and phosphorescent moss

[fossil hollow]

Component Pouch

[rotund orchid]

never interacted with one

[old sluice]

... Anthony Hopkins gave his best performance as Hannibal Lecter, and he had not drank a drop in years.

[proven mountain]

Your component pouch or arcane focus does that

[fossil hollow]

See Casting a Spell section

under spell components

[ivory shale]

i said i have a comp pouch but the dm still said yeah but you need the materials first

[fossil hollow]

If a spell doesn’t consume its materials and doesn’t specify a cost for them, a spellcaster can use a Component Pouch (see chapter 6) instead of providing the materials specified in the spell, or the spellcaster can substitute a Spellcasting Focus if the caster has a feature that allows that substitution. To use a Component Pouch, you must have a hand free to reach into it, and to use a Spellcasting Focus, you must hold it unless its description says otherwise (see chapter 6 for descriptions).
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/phb-2024/spells#Components

[glass granite]

Isn’t it also because they’re incredibly skilled?

[old sluice]

I can say the opposite without lying. Heath Ledger's performance is the product of his skill as a physical performer. He calculated the body language of the Joker and the speech manierism through experimenting. Then he was completely sober during filming. Save for the medication he probably took

[snow agate]

im fairly certain that method acting drug dependencies falls under rule 2 so it probably just shouldnt be discussed here >_>

[fossil hollow]

I dont think Johnny Depp is a method actor

[old sluice]

A good performance is the result of knowing and understanding the character. Of mastery of the text. Of experimenting with the character's body language and verbal mannerisms.

[storm crow]

Id a character has a phobia of something would it be Wis save or frightened on sight or just simply frightened on sight?

[old sluice]

Don't play D&D drunk.

[glass granite]

Depends, you mean Frightened as the condition or frightened as scared?

[snow agate]

you can choose to be scared of whatever you want to be scared of

[storm crow]

Condition

[old sluice]

Neither. Let the player decide.

[marble lion]

boy i love drunk dnd

[glass granite]

The condition isn’t usually done from just seeing a fear

[ivory shale]

i told him this but he said the way he currently use balances spell and "why does some spell have materials but not others? its for balance "

[old sluice]

As a recovered addict, I find that this romanticisation of drunkeness, especially in a space where younger people are involved, is extremely problematic.

[fossil hollow]

at that point theres nothing i can really tel them. If they wanna run it like that, thats just how it is... even if i vehemently disagree with that logic

[glass granite]

It’s also for flavour
The balance is mostly for spells that consume the materials

[storm crow]

Yeah but I do wanna give my character’s phobia a mechanical impact

[glass granite]

Are you the player or DM?

[knotty basin]

Don’t

[fossil hollow]

yeah, like darkvision needing a carrot (vitamin a was said to be good for eyesight, and carrots have it)

[storm crow]

Player, but im working with my DM they seem to be okay with the idea

[knotty basin]

This never works as well as it sounds it will

[ivory shale]

where do people romanticizes drunkness?

[glass granite]

Then coordinate with them, our input doesn’t matter

[marble lion]

true the romanticising of substance abuse is not suitable for here

[snow agate]

literally scroll up 5 minutes

[storm crow]

Might go with a Wis save in that case then

[snow agate]

also yes its specifically mentioned in rule 2

[marble lion]

liking dnd with drinks though is not romanticising that

[glass granite]

I’m with Poker in the sense that I wouldn’t do anything like it, and anywho Frightened is far too harsh an effect for THIS, but again our input doesn’t matter

[ivory shale]

omg

yea thats bad

[glass granite]

Glad we can agree

[ivory shale]

i mean yeah, having a beer or two with dnd is not being drunk lmao

[old sluice]

People saying that they drink a few beer during their D&D game is not the same as... One specific person arguing literally in favour of substance abuse while using, for "positive" examples of the consequences of substance abuse one man whose abuse led to his death, and one whose abuse led to domestic violence.

[marble lion]

yeah definitely

[storm crow]

I mean, it’s just a phobia of a specific thing, it only comes up when that thing comes up, and in this case it’s ghosts

[valid geyser]

yeah that's kind of a take detached from reality

[fossil hollow]

ghosts already have a built in fear feature

[crimson gulch]

Yeah, I used to run games at a Cafe that had a full bar, was a good time

[marble lion]

its not appropriate for this server to talk about J

no matter if theyre wrong or youre wrong. that topic is not allowed

[bitter spindle]

It’s wierd that there isn’t such a think for monks to be able to “silence” spell casters, kind of like chi blocking in Avatar: the last air bender

[fossil hollow]

stunning strike

[stoic obsidian]

Yeah, and it me staring smiling at them saying in a demonic voice “hi new friend”

[lyric idol]

Way of Silence monk subclass would go hard.

[marble lion]

i think its ok to say getting drunk, but only within safe limits

[ivory shale]

yeah thats off topic af, i rather u guys talk about other rpgs

[old sluice]

I personally know one actor who can pull off a perfect Jack Sparrow. And that person hasn't had a drink in four years. Stop linking skill with drunkeness. This is irresponsible and dangerous.

[bitter spindle]

Way of the anti…way of the weave?

[marble lion]

not going "down the rabbit hole" as you put it

[stoic obsidian]

Sound like a mime

[cerulean monolith]

Grappler feat can nullify somatic components

[knotty basin]

So like, Mage slayer feat?

[ivory shale]

ngl you sound like a person that just started drinking lmao

[old sluice]

A monk who can cast silence, grapple well and with mage slayer is likely among the best anti-mage build

You clearly know nothing about method acting. I would advise reading Stanislavski.

[stoic obsidian]

It doesn’t say it can in the rule book

[lyric idol]

No. I imagine the subclass would involve stealth abilities, casting silence using ki, or enemies hit with fury of blows have their vocal cords cut off by hitting a certain pressure point.

[glass granite]

As long as you do it respectfully, you shouldn’t get banned. But it’s a red flag for some people.

[ivory shale]

i dont want to play with a dm thats shitfaced

[bitter spindle]

Does savage attacker or even mage slayer work when using fists as a monk? Both feats mention using “weapons”…

[glass granite]

Then no

[stoic obsidian]

Neither do I

[glass granite]

Neither do I
Cuz I’m the DM

[ivory shale]

and also a player that shitfaced

[cerulean monolith]

I was thinking of 2014 Grappler, mb.

[valid geyser]

i haven't seen pirates of the carribean since I was a kid, but i dont really remember him being a drunk

[tame breach]

helloo

[marble lion]

he is majorly drunk

[cinder timber]

Does anyone know if bloody sacrifice is balanced?

[marble lion]

"where is the rum gone" is a quote for a reason

[bitter spindle]

So a throat punch lol. Stunning strike it is then

[stoic obsidian]

Not even 2014 says it either

[lyric idol]

He literally almost has a bottle of rum in his hand

[cerulean monolith]

You can’t perform somatic components while restrained

[old sluice]

And this is a PSA: You do not need to be drunk to play a drunk. The point of method acting is that the method should teach you how to play drunkeness without even touching a bottle.

[glass granite]

Some people don’t want a drunk player at the table

[bitter spindle]

It’s implied, come on now

[ivory shale]

no offense but how you cant see the problem is a red flag upon itself

[bitter spindle]

So no drunken fist monk lol

[stoic obsidian]

I checked restrained and it doesn’t say you can’t use somatic components

[glass granite]

Technically they don’t even have to be drunk

[ivory shale]

buzzed then?

[glass granite]

Even then

[bitter spindle]

If you’re restrained/binded, there should be no way for you to use your arms to the extend of you to cast a spell. Be real

[valid geyser]

I feel like this is a common problem IRL too. Alcohol is so normal in our culture, a lot of people don't understand when people might not wanna drink/be around people who drink

[knotty basin]

That’s more than a lil

[glass granite]

Different people have different boundaries, so it’s important to check

[marble lion]

being under the influence means that you lose some part of your competency and social limits. some people are uncomfortable with that

[stoic obsidian]

Then argue it with wizard of the coast

[cerulean monolith]

Method acting as an alcoholic doesn’t involve consuming alcohol at the level of an alcoholic, it involves acting as if you were drunk outside of when you’re actually playing the character. Indeed, method acting in general can’t be done in D&D as a DM, because you play a lot more than one character.

Source: me actor

[marble lion]

its nothing personal and is subjective

[cerulean monolith]

It’s in the rules on spellcasting

[ivory shale]

We're playing a game here with rules. If you're so drunk you can't play properly get out of my table imo

[proven mountain]

It seems like you want us to say it's fine for you to drink at the table which isn't where the conversation is going. At the end of the day, talk to your DM, it's between you and them, not this group to tell you it's fine.

[valid geyser]

some people just might not wanna hang around a guy who's drunk

[bitter spindle]

When has WOTC made any good decisions?

[marble lion]

doesnt make a difference

[ivory shale]

same shit

[marble lion]

i mean it makes a difference but it doesnt "disable" the effect

[bitter spindle]

That’s like arguing with penguins that the Arctic should be warmer

[lyric idol]

I'd argue they can make a strength check to get an arm out to cast. I think Ill set that as a homebrew rule. If they fail they use their turn but not a spell slot

[marble lion]

im perfectly fine with drunk players, and to a lesser degree DMs because they just need more detailed focus running the game, but it can certainly get too much

for some groups thats fun. play with those groups

[ivory shale]

on the other end, if we're just chatting than I dont mind even if u gonna black out

[bitter spindle]

Agreed

Sometimes I forget how busted stunning strike can be

I can’t wait to play 2024 monk in my friend’s campaign

[ivory shale]

lets change the topic have any of u ever stepped on a d4?

[bitter spindle]

It would probably count as an improvised weapon if so

[tame estuary]

this is why I never buy those metallic die

[fair plinth]

If youre fine using an improvised weapon or your dm lets you have a custom thing, sure

[tame breach]

does anyone know how normal / abnormal a human-elf marriage is ? (esp with the inhuman age gap)

[cerulean monolith]

Say it with me class: “Ask your DM!”

[proven mountain]

It's pretty normal, there are a lot of half elves out there

[cerulean monolith]

What setting? What region?

[bitter spindle]

I’d say it’s about as normal as a Goliath and non-Goliath…or a bard and a dragon…or a donkey and a dragon

[crimson gulch]

really? where?

[tame estuary]

a lot of people treat it like real life interracial. I imagine it's more common in big cities

[tame breach]

Okay thank you !🩷

[ivory shale]

i once played in a circle on the floor in da dorm. One of my friend tried to walk past us and walked thru the circle. guess what happenedl. was bloody.

[bitter spindle]

Marrying an elf as a human is probably the best case scenario for the human tbh

[stoic obsidian]

Are you sure?

I am checking the book and I am not finding it

[cerulean monolith]

Yes you need a free hand to perform somatic components

[bitter spindle]

More like lion smashing tiger

[tame breach]

i was just imagining that 'til death do us apart' takes a whole new meaning 😭

[ivory shale]

bro ngl youre kinda annoying tbh

[crimson gulch]

the restrained condition means your speed is zero, not that your hands are useless, you can still attack with weapons too when restrained

[cinder timber]

Are you familiar with crooked moon?

[bitter spindle]

Interracial and beastiality are two different things

[crimson gulch]

nope, never looked at it

[cinder timber]

😐

[glass granite]

-# Is this still age appropriate

[cinder timber]

Can I get ur opinion on a spell for balance?

[bitter spindle]

Hobbits are humanoid

[rotund orchid]

guys what are we talking about

[ivory shale]

arent dragons intellgent?

[tame estuary]

let's tone it down before we compare fantasy races to animals

[ivory shale]

sex

[proven mountain]

They're not, they're humanoids

[bitter spindle]

So are dolphins, but you know where to draw the line, don’t you

[knotty basin]

-# should we ping a mod

[rotund orchid]

😔

[crimson gulch]

sure?

[glass granite]

-# considering it Maybe just go to #moderator-support

[ivory shale]

not comparable

[glass granite]

Well half elves exist

[rotund orchid]

😶

[bitter spindle]

I’d consider a dragon a beast long before I consider a hobbit an animal

[fair plinth]

Elves and humans almost always if not always make half elves

[crimson gulch]

its a fantasy game, DNA is not a thing

[ivory shale]

bro, they doesnt looks that different

[cinder timber]

Sorry, I know u experienced. Basically the spell is a ba that inflicts 1f6 neurotic damage to you (not preventable) and your spells do an additional 2d6 damage

[bitter spindle]

I’ll keep it simple, humanoids and mate with humanoids. End of discussion

[stoic obsidian]

It doesn’t say it restrict your hands in restrain or grapple, so you talking like, I grapple their hands which would be a call shot, so this is dm fiat

[tame estuary]

doesn't have to make sense, if the player wants to play a multiracial or a multicultural character, they should be allowed to. 5e plays into just whatever you want

[fair plinth]

Idk its weird magic or the fact they are all humanoids or something

[cinder timber]

They can? Isn't thst what a liger is?

[crimson gulch]

they can you know

[bitter spindle]

They literally can…their offspring can’t reproduce though, fun fact

[tame breach]

is it accepted in elf /human culture ?

[crimson gulch]

Magic

[ivory shale]

fantasy genre being uh.... fantasy who woulve thoughts

[glass granite]

Setting dependent

[cinder timber]

Same with mules!

[proven mountain]

It's a fantasy world with magic, anything is possible. If you don't like it, play a different game.

[tame estuary]

I call bait, imma block and move on

[crimson gulch]

self harm spells suck imo

[glass granite]

Agreed with urizt

[ivory shale]

shitty bait at that

[proven mountain]

Yea, agreed

[old sluice]

Actually that too is an exaggeration! Not all hybrids are sterile but hybrids have much higher sterility rates.

[knotty basin]

I hate when I take neurotic damage

[cinder timber]

But that's a crazy buff

[ivory shale]

can you just drop it?

[rotund orchid]

why are we talking about interracial cracking

[crimson gulch]

i mean, we have hex, hunters mark, conjure minor elemnetals, lots of things give you more damage

[old sluice]

Ligers though would be incapable of surviving due to the fact that their bones and muscles simply can't handle their size and weight

[fair plinth]

Depends on the setting but in my experience elves usually shun half elves for their impurity and humans are usually chill with them, but half elves are still kinda outcasts wherever trhey go

[bitter spindle]

So maybe ligers can exist with enough trial and error

[crimson gulch]

the novles explore this quite a bit in the kingdom of many arrows post the war of the orc king in the legend of drizzt, check them out

[ivory shale]

are you this oblivious?

[scenic zinc]

This is a common trope, but it isn't the defined trope within faerun for the most part.

[cinder timber]

But 2d6 buff is ridiculous

[bitter spindle]

Ehh, not necessarily

[old sluice]

No. They would never be able to survive in the wild. Too large, too... Mentally incoherent. Lions are extremely social, tigers are semi-solitary...

[scenic zinc]

In faerun they're sort of seen as favorably by both species instead

[glass granite]

Is this like per attack?

[fair plinth]

Yeah, hence depends on the setting

[old sluice]

Even if you released a population of thousands of ligers in the wild, I give it ten years before the vast majority are dead

[scenic zinc]

usually

[cinder timber]

Each time a spell does damage, it triggers

[bitter spindle]

I’d argue their social constructs are based on how they were raised. Cats can act as dogs, you know

[glass granite]

So worse conjure minor elementals

[old sluice]

Sure but there are also instincts. Tigers raised next to lions still are more solitary than the lions.

[bitter spindle]

Would you rather it stay a 1d6 forever?

[cinder timber]

Idk

[glass granite]

And weird hunters mark, in a way. 3.5 mor average

[ivory shale]

some people thinks insticts doesnt exist

[cerulean monolith]

Neurotic damage? I do hate when a spell gives me anxiety

[old sluice]

I'm sorry, when did WOTC publish a genetic study of their fictional species?

[scenic zinc]

Absolutely not.

[crimson gulch]

Nah they don't

[cinder timber]

Ok

[ivory shale]

bro youre just making headcannons to fit your thinking

[glass granite]

Btw @cinder timber I assume this is concentration?

[cinder timber]

Yes, last a minute

[ivory shale]

yeah the logic of magic

[crimson gulch]

Also no, it's fantasy

[old sluice]

Those people are wrong. Even newborns know not to put their hands in the fire. All cats have the instinct to pounce when something turns their back on them

[glass granite]

What level spell?

[proven mountain]

Ya'll need to stop interacting with bait like this

[scenic zinc]

That would be going way back on any sort of progress they've made on removing the blatant racism from their game.

[cerulean monolith]

Never, but they have said that their worlds are MAGIC and have MAGIC rules

Also no the solution to you being curious about how half-elves work is not to provide a blueprint to including eugenics in a game.

[cinder timber]

I think its 1?

[bitter spindle]

Shit, I’d major in that if it was a college degree rotfl

[ivory shale]

not saying i agree with them.

[glass granite]

Ok I’m sorry what.

[cinder timber]

I think they used a lvl 2 spell slot to buff it

[crimson gulch]

My mostly grown kids still touch the hot things.....

[humble cairn]

No, they do not. It's a fantasy world. When I run fantasy worlds, science isn't true. Especially when it's used to be creepy and bioessentialist.

[tame breach]

Thank u 🩷 I'm kind of new to lore lol

[cinder timber]

I said i think, idk

[rotund orchid]

what the hell

[cinder timber]

Is J creating a menagerie?

[bitter spindle]

…suddenly had a thought of a goblin and a Goliath bumping uglies

[crimson gulch]

No, it dosent have to make sense, it's magic

[glass granite]

Hi being so serious bro I’m Nugget

[cerulean monolith]

“But they need eugenics” okay buddy every word you say from here on is worthless in value. You are incapable of having an opinion of value in my eyes.

[ivory shale]

yeah... eugenics.... yeah,,,, serious

[tame breach]

what u waffling about

[scenic zinc]

I suggest you treat lore as a story you can choose to utilize instead of something you must prescribe to, when it comes to dnd

[rotund orchid]

How did we get to eugenics man

[glass granite]

“Ask the DM”

[cinder timber]

Idk, I think it depends on crossover maybe

[proven mountain]

Because he's trolling and everyone continues to engage in good faith for some reason

[humble cairn]

Can you stop?

[scenic zinc]

That's quite literally what's being discussed.

[tame breach]

[cinder timber]

The reason I asked about the spell is because everyone is doing a little damage and suddenly this warlock does 48 damage at lvl 4.

[ivory shale]

reported

[valid geyser]

Aasimar are humans

[rotund orchid]

some dudes trolling talking about interracial cracking and yall keep engaging wit him😭

[glass granite]

I thought it’d be level 3 or smt! Yes, it’s a lil unbalanced

[bitter spindle]

Well considering 2024s PHB, since stats aren’t tied to races anymore, you’d just have to work out the racial abilities in your own

[old sluice]

We all need to stop engaging with J for now. Between the very dangerous words around drunkeness and this new eugenistic thing, disengaging appears like the responsible option.

[ivory shale]

first wanting to get drunk when playing dnd then eugenics lol

[cinder timber]

I could be tripping, but I think it is level 1? Spell slots are designated for spell level right? Ljke a lvl 1 spell slot is for a level 1 spell?

[proven mountain]

Block him and move on

[humble cairn]

Yes, I regret engaging

[ivory shale]

i never block people

[scenic zinc]

We don't use vancian casting anymore

[bitter spindle]

I’ll just my step of the wind bonus action and spend a ki point

[cerulean monolith]

So… horses, right guys?

[cinder timber]

What?

[rotund orchid]

like from red dead

[crimson gulch]

I don't belive in them

[cerulean monolith]

You… you know horses are real right?

[glass granite]

Yes.
Well if you think it’s broken ban it, or nerf it

[bitter spindle]

spectral horses

[rotund orchid]

Hogwash

[scenic zinc]

A 1st level spell can be cast with any spell slot of 1st level or higher.

[glass granite]

I like horses

[cinder timber]

Oh, wait it's a warlock. Don't they have x spell slots that can be any level?

[proven mountain]

I've never seen a horse irl so I'm not sure if they are real...

[sleek cloud]

I use my bonus action to disengage and my action to take influence action and say “how bout them horses, pretty cool right?”

[tame breach]

i like unicorns

[ivory shale]

they are and theyre based

[bitter spindle]

They always cast at highest level

[humble cairn]

Great for mounted combat, though tend to be frail for higher level combat.

[ivory shale]

i hate unircorns

[cinder timber]

I'll make it proportional. 1d6 self damage for 1d6 increased damage.

[cerulean monolith]

Anybody have tips for keeping a horse alive?

[glass granite]

And when upcasted?

[tame breach]

noo💔 theyre so cute

[rotund orchid]

restart your game

[sleek cloud]

Hay is pretty effective

[crimson gulch]

Make it win races

[scenic zinc]

Also no. They have 1 or 2 pact slots that are a certain spell slot level

[old sluice]

Feed it.

[bitter spindle]

Make sure it never breaks it’s legs

[cinder timber]

Oh okay, I can always just have them receive a lot of damage which may break their concentration anyways

[glass granite]

Fairly sure not letting it get stabbed helps

[knotty basin]

Hol up, bout to cast 9th level alarm

[cinder timber]

I thought they are always cast at highest level?

[cerulean monolith]

Hay… and anti-stab… got it

[scenic zinc]

go right ahead ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[humble cairn]

Mounted Combatant Feat, Saddle of the Cavalier, even the Gift of the Metallic Dragon Feat.

[ivory shale]

thats warlocks right?"

[rotund orchid]

jus turn on cheats

[bitter spindle]

That EB of theirs is no joke. People meme on it but it’s still a powerful cantrip

[cinder timber]

I am talking about a warlock. I'm asking if that is correct

[scenic zinc]

They're cast at the level that spell slot is.

[humble cairn]

But it's hard to keep a mount alive even with all those Feats.

[scenic zinc]

"Highest" isn't necessarily correct.

[cinder timber]

Just forget it. I'll ask clone or someone.

[ivory shale]

sorry my brain is tired but yeah

[cinder timber]

So warlocks get x spell slots that are all of one level, right?

[sleek cloud]

Warlock spells are always cast at the highest spell level they have access to up to 5th level, then anything after that is mystic arcanum stuff

[scenic zinc]

Especially because they can cast 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level spells, but never have spell slots that are that level.

[bitter spindle]

Warlocks have their spell slots increase in level the same time sorcerers and wizards would gain their higher level slots…except for warlocks all their spell slots are at that highest level, regardless of the spell you cast

[cerulean monolith]

Yeah… I might just have to pop a Warding Bond and pray it works

[cinder timber]

Oh okay, thanks for clarifying

[scenic zinc]

Sorry if you don't like my answer, but there's a nuance that it seems you're just ignoring

[timid current]

My paladin pre 2024 kept his mount alive by buying big armor and judicious use of the aid spell and self casting armor of agathys

[cinder timber]

Ur answer is just not clear to me

[timid current]

(Due to the shared spell shenanegans)

[bitter spindle]

Difference is, warlocks have very limited amount of slots to use…but they gain their slots back on short and long rests

[scenic zinc]

except they don't, though. Their pact slots only grow to be 5th Level.

[cinder timber]

I see. I'll have to read more on this stuff. Thanks for clarifying!

[ivory shale]

what nuance?

[bitter spindle]

Yeah but by then they also have hella invocations and busted ass things they can do that the other spellcasters can’t do

[sleek cloud]

Basically, you’ll have 1 spell slot at level 1, 2 slots at levels 2-10, 3 slots at 11-16, and 4 slots at 17-20

[scenic zinc]

And the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level spells can't be cast with those spell slots and do not expend a slot to cast.

[stoic obsidian]

The best option, but now you got summon steed

[sleek cloud]

Correct

[bitter spindle]

You have 2 spell slots at level 2, they increase a level at level 3

Wait, I read that wrong

[scenic zinc]

Which means you can cast one of those higher level spells as an action and then a pact slot spell as a bonus action or vice versa in one turn as a warlock

[sleek cloud]

I was gonna say

[stoic obsidian]

Too bad for non paladins

[scenic zinc]

Because the '24 rules are about spells that expend a spell slot

[stoic obsidian]

Free cast spells got buffed

[bitter spindle]

Oh man, I gotta see what GOO Warlock is about in 2024

[scenic zinc]

That's the kind of nuance I mean.

[sleek cloud]

Warlocks in 2024 definitely got some nice quality of life stuff

[bitter spindle]

Same for monk honestly

[glass granite]

Absolutely

[knotty basin]

And rogues

[glass granite]

And barbarians

[humble cairn]

Wait, is this the horse I'mgiving you?

[ivory shale]

wow horses

[scenic zinc]

GOOlock essentially gets a form of subtle spell for 2 magic schools so long as they're using a spell focus at level 6

[ivory shale]

horses are cool

[bitter spindle]

That would probably be an artificer

[ivory shale]

horses

[tame breach]

unicorns are cooler🦄

[bitter spindle]

That’s their whole gimmick

[halcyon cave]

Yo , is there anyone starting a new session?

[ivory shale]

not dnd

[proven mountain]

#find-a-game check here for information on finding a game

[glass granite]

Alchemist artificer

[halcyon cave]

Thank you!

[bitter spindle]

Can they still use their telepathy gimmick like in 2014?

[scenic zinc]

iirc, it's better

[bitter spindle]

If I was gonna make a GOOlock, it would have telepathy and telekinesis to make up for the lack of spell slots

[undone fable]

warlocks are dependent on their cantrips?

[bitter spindle]

On their invocations more like

[karmic pendant]

Depends on the warlock some are melee

[bitter spindle]

#character-discussion

[knotty basin]

Uh, mods?

[old sluice]

People please do not engage.

This is nothing more than a new provocation. Do not take the bait

[bitter spindle]

Sometimes it helps to have compassion people

[ivory shale]

i was afraid u gonna put chaotic neutral or neutral there

[undone fable]

me?

[bitter spindle]

Everyone

[undone fable]

im just talking about warlocks

[karmic pendant]

No someone else

[bitter spindle]

Anyways, GOOlocks

[undone fable]

are they in 2024 phb

[scenic zinc]

Remember, you can report posts with the report tool

[bitter spindle]

Yup

[ivory shale]

actually interesting concept

[old sluice]

Considering J is the one baiting, that message has two explanations:

1. J is engaging in DARVO
2. J wanted to post that comment from a sockpuppet account and forgot to switch

[bitter spindle]

Dude he’s not baiting, he’s just uneducated

[cerulean monolith]

You’re giving me a horse? I got myself a horse too 😬

[undone fable]

Darvo?

[old sluice]

Ok so I know the adage "don't attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance" but this is a lot.

[ivory shale]

snapchat 🥀

[bitter spindle]

This…actually make so much sense

[old sluice]

Deny
Attack
Reverse
Victim and
Offender

[cerulean monolith]

DARVO is a method manipulators use to shift blame to make their victims look like the perpetrators

[humble cairn]

I got a Stable in my Bastion, remember?

[cerulean monolith]

I got a stable in MY bastion

Guess I’m starting a horse trading business haha

[lavish flame]

They don't exactly have a lot of spell slots to work with

[bitter spindle]

Have a Druid shapeshift into a horse, have them escape, and re-sell them. Infinate money glitch

[bitter spindle]

They’re dependent on their invocations, and abilities given by the pact they chose

[undone fable]

Ah. I remember seeing this in an ig reel and i forgot about it. Anyways, is Goolock good

[bitter spindle]

The spell options are a bonus

[humble cairn]

Well you might as well use your Stable since we're like half a week's travel away from mine.

[bitter spindle]

Yes, player handbook 2024

[glad arch]

Oldest trick in the book, if your dm doesnt know how to deny that are they even a dm

[old sluice]

Is that not basically the same as selling a horse trained to escape and go back to you?

[lyric idol]

I mean clerics can pray to their gods to have them intervene in a bar fight. About as omipotent as it gets.

[bitter spindle]

I already know the workaround, that doesn’t mean a DM does

[glad arch]

Dnd has the weave, source of (i believe) all magic, #dnd-lore would be more usefull probably

[lyric idol]

No. And ngl I'm glad it doesnt exist 😅

[old sluice]

That was an actual trick used by con artists. Generally it ended with the con artist hanged.

[bitter spindle]

Druids could probably change the look of the animal they shape into though, so the buyer wouldn’t be able to tell it’s the same “horse”

[glad arch]

No clue man

Idk if its even a thing you can go to in the first place

[old sluice]

No.

[bitter spindle]

You’re talking about the weave, and someone already tried doing what you’re thinking of. Look up “Karsus” and why the floating islands exist

[old sluice]

And the Weave is not a place you can "go to". That is not how this works.

And if there was such a place where fate can be changed, the world would already be destroyed

[bitter spindle]

A person

In DnD of course

[glad arch]

Dnd characters get strong at level 20 but even then theyre no match for the gods. No player character will ever be able to do such things

[old sluice]

It's not a plane.

[bitter spindle]

More like tried the hardest anyone could possibly try, and monumentally fail

[lyric idol]

I had this idea but as an artificer changeling. Sell a magic item thats an infusion. Change my identity. Cancel the infusion. Rinse and repeat.

[bitter spindle]

The moral of the lore is what you’re about to do is impossible

[glad arch]

Are you planning to run a campaign like this? If so go ahead theres no rules for your campaigns. But if youre planning to do this in a game theres a 99.99% youre out of luck

[elder geyser]

Where do I find a dnd group in germany guys

[bitter spindle]

Karsus found the limit and nearly tore the fabric of reality in the attempt, and cursed the land indefinitely, and pissed off just about every god

[glad arch]

This is a very specific type of campaign youd have which im turn needs a very specific dm and group of playere

[bitter spindle]

You misunderstand, Karsus wasn’t evil

[old sluice]

Karsus was a Netherese archmage, a prodigy from a young age. Back then Netheril was in constant war with... Things that ate magic, to put it simply. And Karsus believed it would eventually end in the destruction of his magic-based civilisation. He was a bit of a patriot so he sought a magical solution. Through studying he invented a spell that would allow him to ascend to godhood by killing a god and absorbing their essence. By that point he had gotten a little crazy so he decided to target the goddess of magic. That set the Weave on fire, killed the goddess and... For a few seconds, there was no magic at all. And Karsus was at that point standing on a city kept floating by magic. Looney Tunes logic ensued. He died, the goddess of magic died and was more or less reincarnated in a Netherese peasant girl who happened to be nearby.

Karsus was, by all accounts, a great man. A genius of epic proportion, well beloved. Somewhat ruthless, as the politics of Netheril required.

[bitter spindle]

And then he blew tf up

Dude is trying to make magic Oppenheimer

Insert tempting fate line ”What could possibly go wrong?“

[lyric viper]

Yeah, let's move on from this topic

[glad arch]

Ooowh wait ive jeard this before, fun stuff

[lyric viper]

It has not been approached properly.

[cosmic roost]

https://media-waterdeep.cursecdn.com/attachments/0/828/c2-16.png

[proven mountain]

Thank you mods

[cinder timber]

How is everyone doing?

[lyric viper]

Movin' on

[meager fractal]

casts expeditious retreat on the modrons

[bitter spindle]

It’s the weekend, and nothing I’ve wanted to do has been able to happen

[cinder timber]

In regards to dnd or in general?

[bitter spindle]

In general

[lyric viper]

Just finished our Mad Mage campaign. Took years >.>

[meager fractal]

two D&D sessions I was giong to play in fell through this weekend 🙁

[humble cairn]

Nice!

[tame estuary]

it's december

[meager fractal]

December is when campaigns die, yeah

[old sluice]

Now that I think about it... I can't think of any Forgotten Realms video game whose story does not involve Karsus' folly as being one of the causes of the plot.

[crimson gulch]

Nice, I'm on track to have my waterdeep campaign cleared in about 35 sessions, dragon heist into mad mage

[warped jay]

Aasimar or Warforged for artificer. cool/lore reasons only.

[lyric viper]

Did the NwN ones involve Karsus? Been a while since I played the original modules.

[lavish flame]

I mever finished Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, do those games deal with Karsus?

[knotty basin]

I sure hope not, we just got out of the death house

[meager fractal]

Aasimar. He or she taps into the powers of heaven to infuse into their creations. It's definitely a unique one

[old sluice]

Oh yeah NWN 1 I don't think so. I'd have to check the story of every module though

[old sluice]

Don't know, never played that one.

[lyric viper]

I don't think NwN1 or BG:DA do. Just drow. ALways drow.

[old sluice]

NWN2 does, Baldur's Gate 3 obviously, there are some important mentions in BG1 and 2...

[cinder timber]

Nice, im trying to finish my first campaign

[old sluice]

When I think about it, the Forgotten Realms really only have two setting defining events. Karsus' folly and the time of troubles

Every time you're going to tell a big story that involve realm-specific lore, you're always going to go back to one of those

[rough basalt]

Time of troubles has some hilarious lore to it

Like the 2nd Mystra getting fatally backhanded by Helm for trying to "I wanna see the manager!" Her way back into Celestia

[raven kernel]

My dungeon master said every spell is allowed for the Christmas one shot.

So im putting silvery barbs in my spell list and wait with using it till some is on death saves so I can give advantage on it, or when someone is about to go down and needs a save.

[lyric idol]

Why would every spell not be allowed before?

[karmic pendant]

silvery barbs is apparently an annoying spell for dms

[old sluice]

Some people (me included) only allow spells from the books we are actually using. No Strixhaven spells for a campaign not set in Strixhaven.

[knotty basin]

Why? It seems underpowered if anything

[glass granite]

heh

[lyric idol]

Thats weird for me personally but they can do them.

[karmic pendant]

yeah idk

[merry sigil]

My dungeon master is chill.

[lyric idol]

If the spell exists in dnd beyond and usually isnt 3rd party I allow it without question. 3rd party content I pick n choose since yknow things can be pretty unbalanced sometimes.

[raven kernel]

Well, we always have: divination wizard portent, the lucky feat, croqnegy wizards that practically do the same.

[lyric idol]

You mean chronurgy wizard?

[raven kernel]

Yes

Sorry, English isn’t my native language

[lyric idol]

Yeah those fellers can be a real hassle.

[scenic zinc]

It's not an English word :v

[lyric idol]

Nah youre good. I was just trying to sound out what you meant.

[lyric idol]

He typed it how it sounded, just didnt spell it. Its all good

[glass granite]

chronurgy aint a common word either

[raven kernel]

Like, there are stronger things then silvery barbs, the lucky feat ain’t even a spell and is a set thing that happens.

[lyric idol]

Just add spells/effects that add disadvantage too. Force them down to a straight roll every once in a while.

[raven kernel]

I got that put on me, hold person, and when I read the spell it doesn’t say I get disadvantage to get out (correct me if I’m wrong), gonna talk about it with my dm in private next week.

[scenic zinc]

Eh? I've never heard this take.

I agree it's not as overpowered as people like to claim it is, but I don't think it's "underpowered" in any way.

[scenic zinc]

Paralyzed doesn't impact wisdom saves, correct.

[rough basalt]

Yeah never seen underpowered either lol

[knotty basin]

I feel there is better uses for a 1st level spell slot

Like shield

[old sluice]

Just because another option is better does not mean that option is underpowered. That is not how those things work

[rough basalt]

Yeah SB isn't an insanely OP spell.
It's strong, but it can be more annoying than anything

[scenic zinc]

"Better uses" != silvery barbs being "underpowered"

[knotty basin]

Yeah, fair

[old sluice]

Fireball is better than healing word. But there are still situations where you should cast healing word rather than fireball

[rough basalt]

Nah, fireball the downed players

[scenic zinc]

As a DM? Yes.

[rough basalt]

It's what they get for being downed

[old sluice]

Most of the time, my monsters and NPCs do try to finish downed characters, yes.

[rough basalt]

For me it depends

[old sluice]

In a world with healing magic, it is good policy to make sure your enemy is dead rather than unconscious. If you are a non-sapient predator seeking to eat, you go for the kill, and then you either take your prey and run, or you go for the kill, run without the corpse, and wait until they leave the corpse behind.

If you are a bandit, you take the downed PC hostage.

[lyric idol]

Yes and no. Undead will for sure, but if theres an enemy down but whole bunch of other enemies on your butt you cant focus the injured ones. You can take them hostage though.

[sweet loom]

Wind mill wind mill for the land

[old sluice]

Of course, there are no hard rules.

[sweet loom]

Turn forever hand in hand

[old sluice]

It all depends on the situation. But generally in combat I think you should consider finishing or taking hostage the downed PCs to be the default behaviour, and ask yourself "Why would that character not do it?" rather than why they would.

Does the monster I am controlling have a legitimate reason not to finish the downed PC, and does that reason trump the usual reasons to?

Sometimes the answer is yes. But most often I think it's no.

[rough basalt]

Mine purely depend on the NPCs intentions and current situation

[old sluice]

Of course an NPC who is absolutely certain the group has no healing magic left has no reason to bother finishing off the downed PCs.

[rough basalt]

I've definitely killed some PCs I attacked while down tho

With Zombies and Stirges

[old sluice]

Non-sapient creatures do indeed follow a different logic

[crimson gulch]

Most of my player charicter combat deaths are executions rather than failing the death saves

Or instant death effects, disintegrate or power word kill ect.

The monsters want the players dead dead the majority of the time the way I do it

[old sluice]

People really should have a death ward up at all times at those levels.

[knotty basin]

My first death was opening a door to an animated rug of smothering. By the time the rest of the party got to me, I was dead

[rough basalt]

I don't think I've seen a death just from naturally failed death saves.

[crimson gulch]

I homebrewed an ability for an Arch sea hag, power word Krill, turns you into a pile of krill If you were under 100hp when she hits you

[old sluice]

A pile of krill that keeps your volume or your weight?

[rough basalt]

My first character death was being one shotted due to dms crit homebrew

[knotty basin]

Asking the important questions here

[crimson gulch]

100x your weight actually

Big pile

[old sluice]

I feel like for some people, being turned into that pile of krill may actually be a buff

[crimson gulch]

Nah its pc death

12 d 12 force damage If above 100 hp just like power word kill too

[robust dragon]

Chance of a Maps update tomorrow?

[rough basalt]

Most ridiculous PC kill I have was against a level 6 ranger

A Necromancer (MotM) hit him with all 3 of his multiattack

With one being a crit

Did a total of around 120 damage to that poor ranger

[crimson gulch]

Those motm wizards are spicy

[rough basalt]

Yeah they can easily annihilate any party up to their CR

Given they don't get CC'd somehow

[old sluice]

We come back to the golden rule: Never engage the enemy on their terms. Ambush, deny, hide, poison them, cut their throats in their sleep

Never get into a straight fight.

[stoic obsidian]

You forgot scout

[old sluice]

Oh that's a good one

Take their loved ones hostage too!

[lyric viper]

Very random thought, but came after reviewing some of our characters:

I enjoy how many heroic and good PCs end up looking really evil, because they loot magic items (including armour) from the evil guys. Like my artificer rocking a Black Robe of the Archmagi despite being CG.

Gonna have to use that in future when party encounters anyone and goes 'Oh c'mon, they look evil. Look at what they're wearing.' Have the villian be like 'No, really, I got this off an evil guy I killed, I'm totally good, just using some UMD skills here >.>'

[old sluice]

Gaslighting also works great. In VTM, I get vampire hunters to go insane by tormenting them with dreams of loved ones I murdered.

[stoic obsidian]

Oh this is for a villain

[old sluice]

Villains also have loved ones sometimes.

[still plover]

Reduce (the number of bad guys)
Reuse (their cool gear)
Recycle (their minions into your undead army)

[stoic obsidian]

Just turn their family into a zombie and do deplorable acts that tarnish the image of their loved one until they beg you to stop

If villains be monster then they create a monster

[old sluice]

Having a reputation for cruelty helps! In a certain campaign I played, at least one bad guy killed themselves in fear of what I was going to do to them

The reputation does not need to be true. Pay bards to sing songs of fake cruelties you did to fake enemies

[stoic obsidian]

Some villains might even ask your hand in marriage

[old sluice]

Get them drunk during the wedding and stab them then

[glass granite]

You could also poison their drink

[crimson gulch]

I have had several parties take detours to master crafts folk to strike emblems off of armor, change the hilt of blades, dye robes ect

[rough basalt]

Remember.
Have your villain shoot the parties favorite horse

[stoic obsidian]

Nah I rip their tongue out while we are kissing

[timid current]

that's actually a fun little thought - do you / anyone else here kinda handwave cosmetics?

[rough basalt]

Yeah I don't really acknowledge it

Except on Bags of Holding

[timid current]

generally we just kinda have a table conceipt that unless it's auspicious for plot reasons, a new magic piece of loot generally will fit your vibe

[rough basalt]

He's a happy little guy and I'm never taking that away from him.

[fair plinth]

Thats something i think i should acknowledge

[timid current]

as a part of the magic (similar to how magic rings size themselves)

[rough basalt]

Tho ig cosmetics matter in the magic country of my homebrew

[timid current]

like, my barbarian started using the halberd of this horrendous plague warrior guy (based I'm sure on nurgle stuff) but since it wasn't a cursed weapon it sorta shifted to match what his extant halberd looked like

[rough basalt]

Cause most people wear robes, but depending on your strength/status as a mage, the more intricate the robes. Usually symbols of school or family insignia

[lyric viper]

My gnome artificer ended up wielding a Hag staff, black robe of the archmagi and has a hat of spider climb made out a of a dark mantle.
She went in being an adorably fashion confused gnome wearing something that wouldn't look out of place in the shire or Snow White.

[timid current]

still went with green metal, because it's cool but got rid of the fleshy boils etc

[old sluice]

Remember: Shoot the villain's favourite horse

[lyric viper]

She's done her best to bedazzle them as she's not had time to really change them fully, but I'm not sure that really helped.

[woven flint]

My Twilight Cleric wears thick leather gloves, to hide his hairy Shifter hands :p

[old sluice]

Then decapitate it, and put it in the villain's bed.

[rough basalt]

That being said mages robes are usually middle eastern style robes in my setting.

[glass granite]

I greet the Lord of Goofy!

[woven flint]

Glompus

[lyric viper]

I do also like the idea of some magic items changing to reflect the user's values though.

[glass granite]

I have a magic spear that does that

[old sluice]

That leads to a question: Is there a cultural norm to that? For examples, for nocturnal species, wouldn't dressing in white have more nefarious connotations while dressing in black be looked upon as normal?

Elves have darkvision. It would make sense if, for them, the night and the dark is associated with safety while the day is associated with exposure.

[knotty basin]

Our familiars do this when our characters die

[scenic zinc]

Do the clothes of evil people always look inherently evil in your games?

Two people wearing the same clothing can look very different in my experience.

[lyric viper]

I mean. Robe of the Archmagi is colour coded for your convenience, and the cleric of evil wearing the spikey, blackened armour with red accents and screaming faces might be.. y'know. A little bit of a red flag.

I'm not just stealing their shirt here, even if it's made of nice silk.

[timid current]

but you could

[lyric viper]

I have stolen a BBEG pillows and bed sheets before.

[limber oriole]

Were they comfy?

[lyric viper]

That's why I stole 'em

[limber oriole]

I mean you could just be doing it to be a pest

[lyric viper]

DM: Their room is luxurious and decadent.
My PC, having had to use a bedroll for too long: ...What's the thread count on that bed.

[limber oriole]

Nothings more evil than separating a man and his favourite yellow pillow

[timid current]

we had an entire three session arc in BitD about stealing a really cool chair

sometimes the juice is just gonna be worth the squeeze

[neat prism]

hello

[timid current]

evening!

[hearty bay]

What does it mean to be bloodied?

[knotty basin]

Half hit points or less

[fossil hollow]

Half HP

[rough basalt]

Villain who spends the whole campaign plotting the parties downfall cause they took his stuffed animal.

[unkempt spear]

Any websites other then hero forge that work for making a character?

[feral finch]

I’m trying to pick a race or species for a d&d character does anyone have any recommendations

[glass granite]

Warforged

[scenic zinc]

Are you asking in regard to mechanics or a specific narrative?

[hidden spindle]

Halfling.

-# Did you have anything in mind?

[clever furnace]

i do things based on vibes n characters. if your trying to be some big badass orc or goliath would be cool but also since its dnd nothing is stopping a orc or goliath to being a wizard either

[lyric idol]

Elf is good. Warforged is great. Changeling is an absolute BLAST.

Nothing beats being able to change how you look at a moments' notice.

[marble lion]

Im an elf enjoyer

[inland mauve]

What is the best mixture

[stoic obsidian]

What are situations monk would want to use weapons? (Beyound kensei monk)

[knotty basin]

Multiclass

[stoic obsidian]

Meh

[atomic kayak]

magic weapons in general (that they have proficiency with)

[stoic obsidian]

I think for magical affects of the weapon

[stoic obsidian]

And their enemies you don’t exactly wanna punch, or get close to

Or out of reach

And what I mean by punch I meant the monster that gonna hurt if you physically touch it

[prime wind]

Hi

[hidden spindle]

Ranged options

[inland mauve]

What race is best to mix them?

[hidden spindle]

Half-Orc.

[knotty pasture]

Dwarven engineering is the finest in the world™️

[inland mauve]

Is there a race that has every race creature in a single character

[valid geyser]

no

[knotty pasture]

You can flavor custom lineages into a Frankenstein character but you aren't getting everyone's passives

[inland mauve]

Hmm 🤔

What you mean by everyone passive’s

[marble lion]

You cant combine races in dnd

[inland mauve]

Not what someone told

[marble lion]

You can flavour your character as multiple options, but mechanically gain only one race's effects

There are some existing hybrid races in dnd, like halfelf and halforc, but they are specified races with specified effects, and dont exist in 5th edition from 2024

[atomic kayak]

they still exist, just not separate mechanically

[marble lion]

The DM can of course homebrew something with you, as in ignore the published options and mix effects

[inland mauve]

I know there’s advantages on making a hybrid race what the dm told me I can create anything I want but I have to be sure to understand to give it proper weakness

[old sluice]

Then head to #homebrew

[marble lion]

Thats not real

The guy is homebrewing and overwriting the games rules, which is fine

[old sluice]

By this standard I'm making a primal elf by taking every elf subspecies and throwing them in a blender. Absolutely broken!

[jovial badger]

real tho my party of 6 has 4 elves

[inland mauve]

Oh ok:3

[marble lion]

Now youre talking

[knotty basin]

Oh god, can you imagine this in 2014 rules

ALL the ability score increases

[marble lion]

Waterbreathing, misty step, charm immunity, dark vision, hiding in the wilderness, 35ft speed, extra spells

More!

[old sluice]

And with 2014 rules that's... What, +2 dex, +2 charisma, +1 wisdom, +1 intelligence, +1 constitution?

[marble lion]

Make it an aasimar of corellon with elemental genaasi influence of all 4 planes

As extended eladrin flavour

Now make it a reborn too

This is my next character

[old sluice]

... You know what... I could imagine some sort of secret magical path hidden in multiple elvish temples that lead to a pilgrimage that could turn an elf into a primal elf.

[marble lion]

He also has white hair and 2 eye colours, purple and red

Reddit here i come

[inland mauve]

I know I did a high elf mix with dark elf
The terling I forgot how to spell that and half ogre and human and that race that can transform or Shapeshift

[final belfry]

Hello there

[old sluice]

I was told that FR lore was that elves did not have a fixed eye colour but their eyes switched colour depending on emotions.

[marble lion]

Hmmmm i never heard that before, unless you mean eladrin

[inland mauve]

Do you know if my character can work here?

[final belfry]

Sorry for interrupting Im kind of new here also new to DnD Can someone guide to what to do

[marble lion]

It doesnt

It breaks the rules of character creation as published in 5th edition 2014 and 2024

The DM can just allow it though. Up to DM

[inland mauve]

Ok

[old sluice]

Might indeed just be an eladrin thing.

[inland mauve]

I don’t know

[old sluice]

Oh wait! Alright, so apparently it was a thing back when previous editions had "infravision" that this made elven eyes glow red

[hidden spindle]

'14 Base Human gets +1 to all ability scores. It's kind of like a blender of sorts.

[knotty pasture]

So let's say a Tiefling has fire resistance, darkvision and three spells, you can't combine this with a Dwarf's poison resistance and a Halfling's Lucky trait

You can have items that give you poison resistance at most

Almost all races don't have weaknesses baseline either, they're just extra good at certain things rather than being bad in certain situations

[inland mauve]

True

[hidden spindle]

-# Puts away Locathah & Grung... 🐟 & 🐸

[uncut zenith]

Both of which aren’t core playable species anyways

[marsh plank]

Im new to d&d although i understand the basics and rp. how should i get into my first campaign?

[glossy hedge]

There are a few ways. You can try to get your friends to get into the game and then start a campaign with them, you can go to your local game store or library and see if they have any games open, or you can go to #looking-for-players and sign up through the posts. You can also go to #looking-for-dm if you want dm's reaching out to you instead.

[unreal pagoda]

Hi I know this sounds like I am crazy I am a friend of Alastair (Patchwork Tiefling). He was hacked the Hacker has been running roughshod over the servers we share. Do not click any links from him. I know how weird this sounds, I am trying to help my friend before the hacker ruins more of his servers. If you have any DMs with Alastair please comb threw and delete personal information that might be in side

[remote wadi]

Action Surge sounds like a good idea, all things considered

[inner silo]

It's not bad but may not be as impactful as you'd think, especially considering ranger is a halfcaster

[remote wadi]

Ehhh, not particularly useful spells. At least, not when your party has a Wizard, Cleric, Paladin, and Bard

[inner silo]

Depends on the campaign. The campaign I'm currently in has a bunch of stealth, survival, exploration and travel so for us a lot of their spells would be great. They also get some decent control, support and offense options

[remote wadi]

I understand the benefits under normal circumstances when you be a versatile long range attacker AND get access to some useful spells like Cure Wounds, Hunter's Mark, and Entangle/Ensnaring Strike

But a rule of thumb is that the more classes you have in the party, the more an individual benefits from doing things that most/all of the others cannot

I.e. having healing/ranged spells when there are tons of bulky characters

[inner silo]

And rangers have a bunch of spells no-one else has access to and without a druid on the party their entire spelllist is pretty unique and can fill a niche no-one else can

[remote wadi]

So what spells are that noteworthy to warrant thinking twice before a Fighter multiclass?

[lyric idol]

Pass without trace. Niche, but its extremely useful.

[inner silo]

Multiple summon spells, stoneskin, dominate beast, steelwind strike, conjure volley, greater restoration, commune with nature for level 4-5 spells. Also what will you do with a action surge

[jovial badger]

cure wounds?

[lyric idol]

As a frontline fighter having cure wounds is pretty good.

[remote wadi]

Couldn't I still cast that while being multiclassed?

[lavish flame]

yeah nothing is really stopping u from casting cure wound

multiclassing doesn't prohibit anything on its own. your Class Features might though (like Barbarian Rage not allowing spellcasting)

[remote wadi]

So my question is, why would I not want to multiclass my ranger into a Fighter?

[old sluice]

Not that good. It takes an action to cast, an action that may better be used using your second wind.

[knotty pasture]

Idk about cure wounds, wouldn't healing word be more valuable

[lyric idol]

Ngl if ya wanna multiclass, multiclass is better. Ranger doesnt have much thats like "WOW! I should take this instead of multiclassing into Druid or Cleric!"

[knotty pasture]

Do you really wanna stop for a whole turn bealing

[old sluice]

Actually second wind is a bonus action so... It's just better

[old sluice]

Healing word is better in combat. Outside combat, cure wounds is better

[knotty pasture]

You're multiclassing into Fighter for the heavy armor proficiency anyways

[inner silo]

You're not going to level 20, you're likely going to level 10. If you multiclass fighter you'll slow your spell progression and the unlocking of some ranger features

[remote wadi]

Idk if ranger learns that

But again, we have both a Cleric and Paladin on our team. Not to mention a bard

[knotty pasture]

Ranger learns neither for the record, I thought we were talking about spells from multiclassing

[remote wadi]

Level 11, apparently. Didn't update that bit yet, my bad

[inner silo]

Ah, then great! That's the level where you get your 3rd subclass feature which is pretty great depending on the subclass

All their 24 subclasses unlock something pretty strong there except the hunter

[knotty pasture]

Ranger Rogue multiclass is also v cool

[remote wadi]

Somewhat

I was already going to multiclass into Fighter eventually, but I was debating between Gloomstalker or Hunter for the subclass

[lyric idol]

I assumed it was Multiclassing Fighter vs Just choosing Ranger.

[remote wadi]

Okay, I will make a bigger post to clarify what I am telling/asking

[knotty pasture]

I like Gloom Stalker more

[inner silo]

If you're making a melee strength ranger take hunter, if not, I'd personally take any other subclass. Hunter doesn't get any really fun abilities and what they get is mediocre

[knotty pasture]

I've been trying out Gloom Stalker with excellent results

[inner silo]

Keep in mind they got nerfed quite heavily in 24

[knotty pasture]

Oh wait are we talking about 2024

[lyric idol]

Gloomstalker is good...But wouldnt it be better to choose way of the Shadow Monk?

[inner silo]

Tbh idk

[jovial badger]

elemental monk 😄

[knotty pasture]

Ranger Monk multiclass is okay but you have to discard your armor which is eh

[lyric idol]

Grapple from 15 ft away monk

[inner silo]

They have different abilities. Also shadow monk in 24 because of their darkness ability can be difficult to team manage

[lyric idol]

Fair I didnt consider that and the fact they cant wear armor.

[old sluice]

It's excellent but it has one glaring weakness. If your teammates rely on their darkvision and you end up downed, you are out of luck

[lyric idol]

Real min maxers would do gloom stalker ranger and echo knight fighter to compensate.

[knotty pasture]

The darkness thing is kind of a perk at most, I'd pick Gloom Stalker only for the damage output at turn 1

[lyric idol]

At some point why not multiclass Assassin Rogue? Echo Knight Fighter + Assassin Rogue = free real estate.

[inner silo]

Ah, then in 24 it's definitely horrible

[remote wadi]

Level 3 is right around the corner, and I was debating on my subclass: Gloomstalker vs Hunter. Hunter is a little interesting from Volley and Escape the Horde, and the level 3 option could really help chip away at boss-esque enemies

Gloomstalker's perks seem a little underwhelming at a glance, especially because I don't understand the unique spells that well. However, the dark vision and level 11 ability are both pretty useful, and Dread Ambush would currently give me a +8 to initiative rolls thanks to high Dex and Wisdom

[knotty pasture]

Echo Knight's burst is rechargable once per long rest, Gloom Stalker triggers every fight at turn 1

[remote wadi]

Also, this is 2014 edition

[knotty pasture]

2014 content only as mentioned, I don't really care much about 2024

Also quit the pinging for a moment

[lyric idol]

EK hasnt been updated for 2024 anyways.

[inner silo]

Ah. Gloomstalker is by far in a way the strongest 2014 subclass for ranger as far as i know so if you want a strong subclass go with them

[remote wadi]

Anyways, which of the 2 would work better with Ranger? Especially if I am going to consider a fighting multiclass

[remote wadi]

Why? What makes it that strong aside from what I already know?

And keep in mind

2014, 11 is max level

[knotty pasture]

In a game where combat ends within 3-4 turns, having a free attack that does extra damage at turn 1 is crazy good

[inner silo]

They get great initiative boost, great damage and invisibility in darkness can be very op

[remote wadi]

Invis is lvl 13

[lyric idol]

Have you considered maybe Monster Slayer?

[knotty pasture]

You get pseudo invis as early as level 3

[remote wadi]

Is this different from Hunter?

[lyric idol]

Different subclass yes.

[inner silo]

Ah, i see. I thought it was the same in 14. Well i haven't played the 2014 version, only heard everyone say how it's the best subclass so probably can't help

[remote wadi]

It is a strong subclass, I just am not getting all the benefits

[knotty pasture]

Unless you monoclass unfortunately

[inner silo]

To me they seem to get great spells, a decent damage boost and great initiative boost, proficiency in one of the most common saves, invisibility in darkness from creatures that rely on dark vision which will likely be most of them who fight you there, and at level 11 you can attack again if you miss which is also a great damage boost

[remote wadi]

I'm a Ranger MCing into Fighter, not vice versa

[knotty pasture]

But level 10 isn't a bad place to stop at, 10 Ranger 1 Fighter

Alternatively, 8 Ranger 4 Fighter?

[inner silo]

Tbh a ranger fighter is the ranger that would benefit from hunter as you'll likely go melee

Wouldn't that miss out on 3rd level spells?

[remote wadi]

Huh?

[knotty pasture]

At level 10 Ranger gets Hide in Plain Sight

[remote wadi]

I might as well also explain my weapons

Mostly focusing on a sniper-esque build

[knotty pasture]

Exactly so depending on the campaign Hide at Plain Sight at level 10 isn't bad for a sniper build

[remote wadi]

Longbow for now, but eventually a musket or musket adjacent firearm

The drawback was that I was too poor for a Scimitar

Good news, got a silver shortsword

[inner silo]

What do you want to get from ranger?

[remote wadi]

In terms of combat?

[inner silo]

Why did you pick that class?

[knotty pasture]

I forgot if you get level 3 spell slots at level 9 ranger

[inner silo]

Overall. What abilities compelled you

[knotty pasture]

Cuz otherwise your cut off point is either 10 Ranger 1 Fighter or 8 Ranger 4 Fighter

[woven flint]

My Owlin Glamour Bard when he kills a boss enemy with a 7th level spell fire flare but the boss only had 13 hp left, but he still does his dramatic bow because its his first major kill of the campaign:

[remote wadi]

Quite frankly, all the other ones I was interested in were taken: Fighter, Barb (at the time), Cleric, Rogue, etc
I still could have picked them, but I don't like doubling up much

[inner silo]

I see. That doesn't sound great tbh

[inner silo]

Yup, they do

[remote wadi]

The team comp? We also have a Bard, Wizard, and Paladin, but those classes don't interest me as much

[inner silo]

The fact you're picking ranger because the classes you like more have already been picked

[knotty pasture]

Oh my lord

Cracker seriously quit pinging

[inner silo]

A fighter melee with heavy armour and greatsword and champion and a long range fighter battlemaster will be played very differently

What am i supposed to do to answer to your message?

[knotty pasture]

Just type it out I'll see it, promise

[inner silo]

Okay, sorry

[remote wadi]

Like I said, I don't like doubling up

And I would have picked Rogue, but the thing that stopped me (aside from also already having one) is thag Rogues aren't proficient in the ranged weapons I would have preferred

[knotty pasture]

You don't remotely sound sorry sometimes istg

[lavish flame]

I wish there were considerably more Beast statblocks tbh

[inner silo]

I've been pinging people on every message for the past 2 years of talking on discord, it's a hard to get rid of habbit

[remote wadi]

It'll happen sometimes. idm pings because it means people are interested and responding, but that's just me

[remote wadi]

You can reply to a message while turning off the ping. It's hard to break a habit, but you gotta start somewhere

[inner silo]

Alright, I'll turn off ping then

[remote wadi]

Anyways, I chose Ranger because several long range hits of piercing damage is a very good start

[inner silo]

Do you like their spells?

[remote wadi]

I don't mind packing a few spells that could help the team out, but I see it as a means of small support

[stray atlas]

so bit of a random thought

[remote wadi]

It's why Fighter MCing presumably lowering your spell slots won't bother me too much because I wouldn't be picking too much anyways

[stray atlas]

if dragons have gods, do mind flayers have a god?

[inner silo]

I'd say get level 5 for 2nd attack and just go full fighter afterwards. Might aswell grab hunter subclass and go like 14 wisdom

[remote wadi]

I mean, Sharpshooter, Piercer, Stalker's Flurry, and a Musket with Gunner are already good starts

[stray atlas]

or do elder brains fulfil that roll?

[remote wadi]

Why not Action Surge to turn up the damage higher and get Second Wind for self healing?

[eager marsh]

Illithids have 2 ‘gods’ one of which is an elder brain god

[inner silo]

I mean, yeah, it's great. You don't really get anything from staying in ranger at all though, especially past level 5 so I'd just go full fighter after

[fresh harbor]

Are my original 5e books outdated now? I saw that there was a 2024 version today that I had never seen before.

[remote wadi]

I already have 18 in Wisdom. Hence my slight gravitation for Gloomstalker buffing my current initiative modifier to +8

[inner silo]

A lot of people stick to 2014

[lavish flame]

Elder Brains are more like Mind Flayer Leaders than gods. Think Politician, not religion. They've got Thoon and... something else I forget for deities

[fresh harbor]

What did they add in the new books?

[inner silo]

Oof. What's your Dex?

[remote wadi]

Both are +4

[inner silo]

New books are updated and improved some stuff while not improving some other stuff

[lyric idol]

Better versions of a lot of subclasses.

Some worse then before

[inner silo]

I see. Tbh I'd suggest just grabbing gloomstalker then, multiclassing to fighter since level 6. Ranger hunter is only really good for melee

[lavish flame]

In Sept 2024, they released an updated Player's Handbook, Monster Manual, and Dungeon Master's Guide. These are mostly the same books with a great deal of formatting improvements. The classes all got an overhaul, they are like 75% the same. For the most part, Quality of Life stuff is much better.

[fossil hollow]

what subclasses got worse??

[inner silo]

Gloomstalker i think

[fossil hollow]

oh wait, gloom stalker

[lavish flame]

Their future products will be written under the assumption that you are using 2024's Core Rules. Their products from 2014-2023 can all be used with the 2024 stuff. I'm currently running a Curse of Strahd (2015) game using 2024 characters.

[eager marsh]

Maanzecorian and Ilsensine are the mind flayer gods but they are regarded more as elder beings and concepts by mind flayers because they do not really worship the way other mortals do

[inner silo]

Though tbh new gloomstalker seems not much worse depending on how many encounters you get. 1d8 at the start of every fight vs 2d6 wis mod times per day which increase at level 11 and do additional effects

[old sluice]

If you take BG3 as canon, even if they worshiped, it would not do much due to their souls being non-apostolic

[lavish flame]

I question saying "Gloomstalker got worse" tbh. It just stopped being so oppressively good

[inner silo]

I'd even say i might prefer it

[obsidian moon]

@trail mirage

[fossil hollow]

tbf, it still got worse, but i do agree with the statement

[remote wadi]

At level 6 or since? And how many levels of Fighter would I take? (Max lvl is 11)

[eager marsh]

BG3 forcibly made them have no souls iirc when old lore disagreed with that

[stray atlas]

I hope it is because it does things I really like but it also breaks a few things in established lore from what I understand

[inner silo]

I'd say just go all the way. Rangers only get rangery stuff, not much fighting stuff

[stray atlas]

e.g. the githyanki potentially having a less evil future

[old sluice]

Actually, the term used by Withers is that they have "non-apostolic" souls, which can be taken to mean that their souls do not interact with gods, their prayers don't feed them.

[eager marsh]

Having not played BG3 I can comfortably disregard any lore changes they used

[inner silo]

Why is 2024 gloomstalker considered worse? What ability because worse?

[remote wadi]

Go all the way what? I'm confused

[old sluice]

So no even BG3 does not claim they are souless.

Just that they have a specific type of soul.

[inner silo]

After level 5 of ranger go into fighter and stay there I'd suggest

[fossil hollow]

its no longer as borked as it used to be; spcifically its extra attack thing. surprise also got nerfed

[remote wadi]

Wouldn't I need 2 levels for Action Surge and Second Wind?

[stray atlas]

oh also I still think the partial illithid stuff is extremely fascinating and helps mind flayers not solely be monsters

[old sluice]

They've never been solely monsters.

[inner silo]

Except surprise though, extra 1d8 attack at the start of eich battle got replaced with extra 2d6 damage wisdom modifier times a day which seems to be about the same number of times as the other ability would activate. Though i might just have much less encounters then most players ig

[inner silo]

Why stop after that though?

[eager marsh]

They’re living parasites but they also have a complex warped culture dynamic not unlike how drow act

[old sluice]

Volo's Guide to Monsters, for all the lack of love it gets, gave a nuanced and interesting look at Illithids.

And non-evil illithids have been part of the game since... Well, since Illithids were established as evil.

[remote wadi]

I don't know. Does Ranger get anything special after level 5?

[old sluice]

There have always been adventures and novels that included a rogue illithid that had no interest in the usual stuff

[eager marsh]

There’s a cultural stigma against magic for several reasons for example and they engage in constant one upmanship to obtain higher social ranks

[stray atlas]

if anything is canon from bg3 though I hope it's omeluum

[eager marsh]

‘Deviant Illithids’ are not uncommon either

[inner silo]

Spells and exploration stuff mostly. Rangery things

[stray atlas]

dude is cool as hell

[eager marsh]

Omeluum is canon and exists in an official hard cover before the game

The society of brilliance is an official organization

[knotty pasture]

Gloom Stalker gets Iron Mind at level 7, which gives advantage in wisdom saving throws

If you already have advantage in wisdom saving throws, you can pick between int or cha saving throws instead

[fossil hollow]

proficiency

[old sluice]

Omeluum was invented for BG3, but you are right that the society of brilliance predates BG3 and has included rogue illithids before BG3

[fossil hollow]

not advantage

[eager marsh]

Omeluum exists as an NPC in Out of the Abyss and that book predates the game as well

[knotty pasture]

A certain Mind Flayer who's a renegade that was tormenting Duke Stelmane is also canon btw

Only officially named in bg3

[old sluice]

Nope! In Out of the Abyss, the Illithid member of the society of Brilliance that appears is not Omeluum, it's Grazilaxx

[eager marsh]

Then my DM must have renamed him as a side effect of playing the game when I ran it the first time

[old sluice]

Most likely yes.

[umbral girder]

Omeluum appears in other content last I checked?

[old sluice]

Perhaps but none predating BG3. I am positive he was invented for BG3.

They. They were invented. Illithids don't have gender, no reason to use masculine pronouns.

[umbral girder]

Ah BG3 it seems looking it up, must have gone what other people here said

[remote wadi]

Would I be able to get feats like Gunner while taking levels in Fighter?

[knotty pasture]

This Mind Flayer showed up before Omeluum

[remote wadi]

Also, another question. When there are multiple things I can do upon leveling up, am I only allowed to choose 1?

[umbral girder]

Depends on the level/feature

Like wizard gets to choose two spells on level up for example

[lavish flame]

Wasn't Omeluum (or maybe the org he works for) in Princes of the Apocalypse?

[eager marsh]

The organization we already know predates the game

[lavish flame]

no! wait! the underdark one!

[inner silo]

If you want to use guns, most likely

[lavish flame]

Out of the Abyss! Princes was the Elemental adventure!

[eager marsh]

I already quoted OotA and that’s a different mind flayer

[fossil hollow]

yeah, diff mind flayer

also, spoilers yall

[lavish flame]

alas, they're all calamari in the end

[fossil hollow]

very bad calamari, if volo is correct

[eager marsh]

My mind flayer wizard takes offense to that

[old sluice]

Don't eat illithid though

[umbral girder]

Defintely not that module

[eager marsh]

In society underdark calamari eat you

[knotty pasture]

Shame mind flayers aren't a playable race

[fossil hollow]

for good reason

[old sluice]

First off because illithids are people and that's... Well, not cannibalism but... I mean, if it's wrong for an elf to eat a human, it's also wrong to eat a mind flayer.

[eager marsh]

They are when you’re like me and use DM permission and Custom Lineage

[fossil hollow]

CL + Telepathy + Telekinetic is close nough ig

[remote wadi]

2 more questions

[eager marsh]

Lizardfolk says hello

[fossil hollow]

or an Amethyst Dragonborn

[knotty pasture]

Custom Lineage seems to be the closest we'll get

[remote wadi]

1. What does taking more and more levels in Fighter accomplish?

[lavish flame]

God, I wish Custom Lineage was a larger process

[fossil hollow]

more fighter levels

[knotty pasture]

I'd like to see the chaos in a party between a Githyanki, a Githzerai and a Mind Flayer

[lavish flame]

Moar attacks + class features

[knotty pasture]

The party's over before it'll ever start

[remote wadi]

As in, what do I gain from them?

[eager marsh]

Progression towards all the class features fighter gets at higher levels. That’s what you get in all classes

[fossil hollow]

just read the higher level fighter levels and the question is answered

[remote wadi]

Got it. Brb

[fossil hollow]

never escaping the dnd players cant read or do math allegations

[old sluice]

Conflict between a githyanki and a githzerai party member is a bit boring anyways

[fossil hollow]

was messing up so bad with calculating damage like, 30 minutes ago

[old sluice]

Because the githzerai are just... Well they're right

[knotty pasture]

Them making up after 30 mins isn't too surprising, I'm more interested in the group dynamic when a Mind Flayer is in their team

[fossil hollow]

i think youre underestimating the grudge

[knotty pasture]

Put a Duergar in there as the 4th for good measure

[eager marsh]

A mind flayer character will get more than enough flak from NPCs already and in general I’d recommend against partying with a gith.

[old sluice]

There is no way around the fact that the Githyanki are simply wrong and the Githzerai are simply right. That's kind of a boring conflict, unless we make it more personal. A sort of cult-deprogrammation thing on the Githyanki side, but there's nothing much to do on the Githzerai side

[lavish flame]

I literally just learned how Help Action actually worked for Attack Rolls. For the uninformed, you distract an enemy, you don't help your ally. You choose a creature and make them easier to hit instead of choosing a buddy to make their attacks easier to land.

[knotty pasture]

But how else could I justify Baezel 😔

[terse sphinx]

hello

[old sluice]

Story-wise it's uninteresting.

And having a mind flayer in the party? I mean sure. Until you get in range of an elder brain.

[remote wadi]

Okay, new question

Is having 2 sub classes possible?

[old sluice]

And by that point it just doesn't matter how the mind flayer feels about the party, their only loyalty is to the brain.

[old sluice]

No

[lavish flame]

Not in one class, no. You could not grab Champion and Battlemaster as a Fighter.

[fossil hollow]

if you have two classes only.

[lavish flame]

You can have 2 subclasses as long as they're part of 2 different classes. You could be a Hunter Ranger + Champion Fighter.

[old sluice]

And hell, how do you adventure with a mind flayer? Everybody's going to be like "oh gods help us, an illithid come to enslave us and eat our brains and put tadpoles in us".

"Those adventurers have been enslaved by the illithid, put them out of their misery!"

[eager marsh]

Not when you’re already a deviant mind flayer. Arcane magic proficiency interferes with the psionic control per lore. Some can also be excommunicated or simply have left for personal reasons. Also ring of mind shielding works too

[knotty pasture]

I'd trust Omeluum to watch my back

[eager marsh]

Omeluum specifically also has such a ring iirc as does Grazilax

[lavish flame]

I mostly question how a Mind Flayer PC eats rations. Afaik they can't consume most foodstuffs.

[fossil hollow]

the only calamari i trust to watch my back is nihiloor

[old sluice]

They don't. They need people's brains.

[eager marsh]

That’s not true actually Illithids can eat regular food but they need a brain at least once a month

[old sluice]

Oh, really?

[knotty pasture]

Tbh its kinda like Astarion in that sense

They just go out and hunt things after dark

[lavish flame]

Astarion is a notably different thing though

[fossil hollow]

vamps and dhamphirs arent restricted to blood only

they just need it to live

[eager marsh]

It’s required to maintain their brain health and not decay but they also still need regular food. However they also have a 100% efficient digestion system. They don’t have to defecate

[fossil hollow]

or at least stave off the hunger

[lavish flame]

maybe being a Mind Flayer isn't so bad

[eager marsh]

Most Illithids eat a brain either every 2 weeks or if they’re feeling gluttonous they eat a brain weekly

[fossil hollow]

nothing is stopping strahd from having a full course meal. just doesnt do as much as your party's blood

[knotty pasture]

Tell that to Duke Stelmane's partner

[old sluice]

In itself, it's not bad. It's nice to be an illithid. It's not nice to be a non-illithid near an illithid though

[knotty pasture]

I'm sure they'd agree with you

[eager marsh]

It has to be the brain of something intelligent so you can’t go and eat animals

[fossil hollow]

BG3 is its own continuinity if theyre from there

[remote wadi]

But if I were to multiclass into Fighter while already having Gloomstalker as Ranger, I could get a second subclass as Champion