dnd-discussion

[lean wigeon]

i think if i had a player who wanted to seduce a dragon, i would just let them
do it. no roll. they can roleplay woo'ing the dragon and then the dragon may appreciate the gesture or whatever, but because there really isn't anything being wagered here nor is there an explicit benefit/risk for the players, then there really kinda is no reason to call for a roll
it'd be a different story though if said player explicitly laid out their goals or intentions, like seducing the dragon to "persuade him to let him part with his gold", then that would call for a roll and I set a DC and lay out the stakes and risks

[narrow moss]

i like that one comic where the dragon is vetting the rescuers for the princess.

[woven flint]

The Asexual Dragon: "Am I a joke to you?"

[cerulean monolith]

She would’ve been imprisoned eternally which she notably hated

[violet basin]

looks outside, its dark
5:30 pm

hmmm
im so, awake still...

back to dnd

[violet basin]

yes

[cerulean monolith]

Who sleeps at 5:30?!?!?!

[karmic mason]

...you see, you're why I don't like the meme of seducing dragons.

[woven flint]

Old People /hj

[violet basin]

not me

[karmic mason]

Atleast she'd have someone who she could talk with

So, infinitely better

[lean wigeon]

if it's just seducing the dragon for the sake of seducing them, then i wouldn't even need for them to roll for it and just handle it like a non-structured social encounter

[remote lynx]

No one, i start my sessions at 6pm and 8pm for the ones in the different timezone.

[violet basin]

i just noticed its dark out and winter is coming

[narrow moss]

i think that is reasonable EK.

[woven flint]

"Can I just ask the dragon out on a platonic day of fun?"

[violet basin]

Am i the only one thats never tried to seduce a dragon in dnd?

[cerulean monolith]

Unless you’re in the SH, then winter’s gone

[reef tundra]

I’ve never

[narrow moss]

honestly a platonic date could work...

[sullen hedge]

i've not once seduced anything

[lean wigeon]

they're not interested

[karmic mason]

Roll

If you win, the dragon pays for dinner
If you lose, you pay the bill

[woven flint]

Wow.

[reef tundra]

My paladin had to seduce a priestess once

[narrow moss]

oof shot down

[woven flint]

I'll pay the bill anyway

[remote lynx]

Actually, speaking of dragons, as a little joke i made an npc who seduced a dragon and has a little kobold-daughter. Don't ask me how it works.

[narrow moss]

trust me we won't.

and adoption is a thing.

[lean wigeon]

he says he's taken
by a kobold (me :3c)

[woven flint]

The dragon shouldn't have to pay if I'm the one who offered to take it out for a fun day, what do I look like? a stingy ass?!

[sharp fulcrum]

Idk where to put this but...
I wanna play a chacter that's dedicated to a certain deity how or what is a dun way to incorporate it into my chacter? (I've habent dabbled in gods and deity before)

[cerulean monolith]

Kobolds are dragons’ slaves… could you imagine if all your children were sla- oh wait

[violet basin]

ok, lets make a campgin with all the players that have never seduced a dragon/devil/demon/angel/giant/rhemoraz/bbeg/bbeg minion/inanimate object/golem/goblin/hobgoblin/orc/triton/tarrasque/.... etc..

AND have an actual adventure with no monster/bbeg seduction going on

[remote lynx]

no one really knows where she came from

[woven flint]

Again, I didn't talk about dating the dragon.

[narrow moss]

the world may never know

[zinc hare]

Every night I dream about meeting a random dnd fan in public and having a long talk with them about it

[cerulean monolith]

…what?

[karmic mason]

Imagine the character development of that same kobold growing up to become a knight
And the first task given to her is to take down the same dragon.

She'd have a damn awesome backstory to become a villain.

[woven flint]

I talked about having a bro's day out with the dragon, I got my priorities straight, I'm a dad, the dragons probably a dad, we're having a bros night.

[cerulean monolith]

You’re a dad to a dragon is an important thing to note

[remote lynx]

best part is, said dragon-seducer npc has a legitimate child with a human woman (who came before kobold daughter) and honestly i don't know what i was on (it was my first campaign ever)

[woven flint]

Yeah!
And I didn't even have to do the work to BECOME a dad, It just happened!

[violet basin]

i think i liked dnd better when evil monsters were evil mosnters, and not playable races

[zinc hare]

My players are working for an ancient red dragon currently trying to find him an heir

Main plot of their campaign currently

[cerulean monolith]

I think I like D&D most when people can do The Thing™ that they want to do

[narrow moss]

ehh

[sullen hedge]

the one category of being in dnd i would think would be funny to seduce would be a fey
and not through a charisma check just beating them at their own game

[narrow moss]

i am glad they expanded choices.

[sullen hedge]

even funnier if the character completely misunderstands what a fey asks them for

[honest ivy]

Has anyone here had their first game be an online game with strangers and it go well?

[narrow moss]

because whether a monster is evil or not depends on dm and setting.

[karmic mason]

"Can I have your name?"

"How about I give you my heart?"

"...What"

[woven flint]

Imagine being a powerful ancient dragon and you're amongst other dragons and they ask you what your father was like and you're just like:
"Well, uh... he was a dorky eccentric rabbit man that really loved me in my early days!"

[narrow moss]

well dex say goodbye to that literal heart.

[karmic mason]

Exactly

[narrow moss]

ope

[cerulean monolith]

I laugh whenever I hear “I rolled a nat 20 and seduced the dragon and we got married” because that’s the equivalent of ONE action. One. Are you marrying someone who walks up and says the best pickup line you’ve heard? Not immediately you aren’t!

[narrow moss]

who knows maybe they will find it amusing and spare you

[karmic mason]

That's the punchline

Fey confused by a willingly dying human

[remote lynx]

also, what exactly does it take to be a "Seasoned GM" when you're playing with the same 4-5 players..? Sounds like a stupid question but I'm genuinely wondering.

[narrow moss]

confused? maybe. amused? definitely.

depends on the fey being

[woven flint]

Hey, if someone thinks I'M good enough to get married, then that's on them!

[cerulean monolith]

I’ve been DMing for ~5-7 years if I can count and I generally consider myself to be an above-average DM.

I would say I reached that mark some time in the past year

[lean wigeon]

like wdym
like, playing a FR/Eberron/Dark Sun/etc campaign in another system? or playing another setting in D&D?

[karmic mason]

Here's a random thing

Trivia time! If you guess it right I'll drink some pickle juice.

What is the mythos name given to the lovecraft god Hastur?

[narrow moss]

the King in Yellow?

[remote lynx]

the latter actually, but maybe also mixing the systems together ti fit the setting

[karmic mason]

...damn

[narrow moss]

get drinkin boyo

[karmic mason]

God damn why is it so strong.

[woven flint]

I down the pickle juice and smash the jar on your head and let out a hearty delightful roar of triumph before going to get wasted at the nearest pub

[narrow moss]

lmao

[lean wigeon]

thankfully the market's kinda oversaturated with that kind of stuff
what exactly r u going for

[narrow moss]

welcome to my brain of useless things. yw.

[karmic mason]

3 drinks of pickle juice.

[sharp fulcrum]

I wanna play a chacter that's dedicated to a certain deity how or what is a gun way to incorporate it into my chacter? (I've haven't dabbled in gods and deity before) just something new i wanna try

[old sluice]

Actually Hastur himself is nothing more than a reference to Chambers' the King in Yellow. It barely appears in Lovecraft's writings save as a small nod

[karmic mason]

God that sucked

[violet basin]

uh, praying?

[narrow moss]

true but i assume that is what was meant.

and it is heavily associated now

the mythos is far more than just one author.

[hot marlin]

What's the deity?

[lavish flame]

Really its just an epithet you give to yourself when you feel you've earned it

[sharp fulcrum]

I get that but how could I incompetent it more instead of just praying

[violet basin]

"uh, praying"

[sharp fulcrum]

Everlight

[narrow moss]

what does the god value?

[remote lynx]

I see, Ill just keep on playing and experimenting then!

[violet basin]

prostelyizating

[still plover]

Habits, rituals, taboos. What does your faith ask you to do and avoid?

[narrow moss]

if a god's domain is music, sing and play instruments etc.

[old sluice]

Yes but I would say Derleth and most that followed were trash writers who did not have the skills to create their own stuff so they turned their mediocre novels into parasites feasting on Lovecraft's corpse in order to get some semblance of relevance that should have been denied to them

[narrow moss]

also yeah avoid the god's taboos.

and yeah probs

important thing here is i passed my lore check and someone drank pickle juice.

[hot marlin]

I am unfamiliar with that one. What is it about?

[hot marlin]

Bit harsh. Not sure it's untrue but harsh.

[sullen hedge]

well imma have fun with my owlfolk rogue tomorrow

[narrow moss]

noice

[hot marlin]

A rogue and a beast species? That's basically my kryptonite

[sharp fulcrum]

a divine being of redemption, healing, and temperance, who believes that all things can be redeemed and offers second chances to those who seek them. She is also known as Sarenrae or Raei and her faith centers on compassion, forgiveness, and patience. While she seeks to heal and inspire, and patience (that's the general write up)

[sullen hedge]

if it makes you feel any better when he "broods" he's either people watching from above or having a nap
also he's smol

[lean wigeon]

isnt sarenrae a golarion deity

[hot marlin]

Ah. Yes. Copyright-safe Sarenrae. Check Golarion lore, you may find interesting things.

[narrow moss]

in favor of mostly naps

[lean wigeon]

just play a religious character
assuming this is a setting where gods are real and have a perceivable presence and effect on the world, everyone is bound to worship someone for some reason
if there's one deity (or pantheon) in particular that your character is devoted to, then roleplay that character in such a way that most upholds that deity's ideals, like if ur a follower of kelemvor or some shit you'd be doing stuff like performing burial rites and killing undead

in sarenrae's case, here's her edicts and anathema:
Edicts: Destroy the Spawn of Rovagug, protect allies, provide aid to the sick and wounded, seek and allow redemption
Anathema: Create undead, lie, deny a repentant creature an opportunity for redemption, fail to strike down evil

[hot marlin]

Critical role started in Pathfinder. They incorporated some golarion lore into their setting, including Sarenrae. It was later changed for copyright purposes

[sharp fulcrum]

Ill look into it

[hot marlin]

In any case, in Golarion lore the church of Sarenrae is militant in nature but eschews wealth for poverty and aiding others.

They have a distinctly... Persian or arabic aesthetic

[sharp fulcrum]

I only ask cause iw as gonna have my chacter go into a crisis with his way of living so he wants to renew himself and found a better path then just out right live better xd

[hot marlin]

Brightly coloured clothing, all about being gentle and meditative, leaving violence as a last resort but then being the most brutal people around once violence is called for. With a certain tendency towards fire spells and rituals involving fire.

[reef tundra]

Gotta love light clerics

[hot marlin]

Lots of dancing in the rituals too

[reef tundra]

“Life is beautiful and must be protected, for it is sacred. May all have- BURN DAMN YOU, YA EVIL BEAST”

Can we talk about the fact that light clerics and fiend warlocks share quite a few spells? /j

[hot marlin]

Flame cleanses. Whether it cleanses evil or scorches towns depends only on how it is aimed

[reef tundra]

Fire is fire /ref

[reef tundra]

But yeah fr. And also the flavouring is likely very different

[honest ivy]

Wait, how do I make an LF post?

[reef tundra]

#find-a-game gives you instructions on how

It’s with a special command

[honest ivy]

Oop sorry, ty

[reef tundra]

No problem. I’ve seen other newcomers do worse

[violet basin]

i have over 30 sets of clothing for my character, and im sitting here staring at heroforge again...
send help in the form of sudden onset 3d modeling profieiency!

[high jolt]

Every sip of alcohol doesn’t have to be a con save to not immediately throw up on the floor please I am begging you

[violet basin]

make a dex check to sit down in the chair without falling over

make a str check to open the clearly unobstructed unlocked door

make an int check to order

[reef tundra]

Yeah some DMs are just crazy

[high jolt]

I’m not saying it’s not funny when someone gets too drunk and vomits. That’s hilarious. But come on. Let me get drunk first. I had just ordered and was carry the 5 steins to the table (two in each hand one in my mage hand)

[still plover]

make a wis check to figure out why I'm leaving this game...

[vale sage]

i always thought the hardest part of dnd would be the math. it’s not. it’s not close. it’s the voice acting,

[violet basin]

make a cha check to convince me to not upend this table

[radiant meadow]

(you forgot str check to pick up the menu)

[violet basin]

str, and dex

[tough sandal]

That's what I typically roll CON for; if they're easily inebriated after finishing the drink.

[reef tundra]

Speak for yourself 💅/lhj

[radiant meadow]

ah ye ofc

[vale sage]

what does lhj mean

[reef tundra]

Light hearted joking

[glass granite]

Nah, it’s scheduling

[tough sandal]

Inebriation does not mean forcing out your lunch.

[vale sage]

im stealing this

[violet basin]

the math is easy, minus the dyslexia,
its the rp'ing thats hard

trying to convey a characters expression, emotion, and intention through purely vocal means, expecially as a monotone...

[lean wigeon]

you will be forced to play incompetent characters and you will enjoy it

[vale sage]

touché

popcorn done :)

[reef tundra]

I just wanted to make a joke about how as an actor, it’s a little easier for me, but I also didn’t want to come off as rude as obviously, not everyone is an actor

[vale sage]

that’s cool asf

[reef tundra]

Tone indicators are life savers

[narrow moss]

yeah some roles just take you out of your comfort zone naturally

[radiant meadow]

so real

[reef tundra]

Roleplaying as villains challenge me loads. I love the challenge

[narrow moss]

why i wanna play what i am. it'll make me rp more.

yeah villains are hard. how do you come across as the bbeg without totally leaning into pure campiness?

[glass granite]

Like, I’m a decent world builder and plot maker (not anywhere near professional or even great, but decent) but I can’t do voices to save my life

[tough sandal]

That's why I'm a GM. I get to roleplay as EVERYTHING.

[reef tundra]

Like oh my god sometimes I feel so bad when playing a villain, the despicable words that come out of my mouth. And then I need to sound like I actually believe it

[glass granite]

Does not help that I’m a DM

[narrow moss]

well just don't suddenly go into a disney song and you'll be fine

[vale sage]

in a DM because i love making

[reef tundra]

Hey no worries, voices are optional

I’m a DM because it’s good practice for my writing and acting.

[violet basin]

has joined multiple must-have-voice discord dnd servers

[radiant meadow]

worldbuilding my beloved
dealing with people? not my beloved

[narrow moss]

same

[violet basin]

jsut let me slay monsters, collect loot, and level up

its all i ask

[glass granite]

There’s a reason I primarily play by post online

[reef tundra]

Well when you say it like that… /hj

[vale sage]

i think i prefer making characters to making worlds tbh

[narrow moss]

worlds are hard lol

[glass granite]

I can do both as a DM and I love it

[vale sage]

it’s not the difficulty, my players just seem so captivated and intrigued by my characters that it feels more rewarding.

[violet basin]

i feel like online discord dnd is much harder for RP people,

[vale sage]

hearing my friends talk about their favorite NPCs in school is probably my favorite thing about dnd so far

[reef tundra]

Same

[reef tundra]

It is so rewarding. It melts my heart 💖

[lean wigeon]

no
obligatory 3 hour tavern roleplay scene where nothing productive to the plot happens

[radiant meadow]

you gotta not think of it as a world
but a small playground
and then you can have one of the people who play at the playground go home
and you can figure out what their home looks like
their father has a job, maybe a fisherman
etc

[violet basin]

how about 2 4 hour sessions of loot discussion

[vale sage]

best part about being a high schooler and playing online is scheduling issues are a rare occurrence

[violet basin]

best part of being not a high schooler and playing online, is schedueling issues are a rare occurance

[narrow moss]

oh i can do it. I am a writer.

[violet basin]

my usual haunts are multi-national

[narrow moss]

but yeah it's jsut so much bigger than a single character

[vale sage]

imagine having responsibilities /j

[reef tundra]

The best part of being a college student preparing to move out and balancing a job and preparing for my future and finding a university while also writing several pitches for shows and acting is… uhhh…

[narrow moss]

uhhh

[reef tundra]

The food

[narrow moss]

you will eat your ramen and you will like it.

[vale sage]

tone indicators are great! i can be a snarky goblin and convey that i’m joking in one message! how neat is that?

i’m giddy rn

[reef tundra]

Yup. And microwave Mac and cheese Ofc

[narrow moss]

of course.

[vale sage]

you get to be proud of yourself for handling so many things at once. keep going 🔥

[high mesa]

yeah my diet is ramen, mac and cheese and chicken nuggets

[reef tundra]

Aww Ty.
Did I mention my 5 campaigns? /hj

[narrow moss]

chmkn nuggies

[vale sage]

dear god

[high mesa]

and when i want to treat myself i get little caesars cause it's one of the only meals out you can buy for under 10$ in cali

[vale sage]

do you DM all 5??

[reef tundra]

4

[remote lynx]

i don't do voices, but i stutter too much for anyone to take me seriously. ..

[vale sage]

little caesar’s my beloved

[reef tundra]

cries in british

[vale sage]

if little caesar’s was a person i would marry them on the spot, regardless of gender

[glass granite]

Did someone call me

[narrow moss]

idk i'm just hungry now.

[vale sage]

real

[narrow moss]

lol

[reef tundra]

Cast hero’s feast

[remote lynx]

I'm picking up lotr again so i could get a little bit of inspiration for dnd

[vale sage]

reminds me of the time a kid in my drama club told me he was switching from an english accent to a british accent. that was something else

[narrow moss]

5 things the noble elite don't want you to learn: Hero's Feast etc

dnd clickbait go go go.

[vale sage]

i’ve eaten so much today

burrito, cookies, geometry bell ringer, popcorn

[narrow moss]

noice

[vale sage]

i love the dnd community. it feels like i’ve really found my people. you guys rock

[reef tundra]

Awww, Ty

[fossil hollow]

Well, Rimekin's kinda dissapointing

[violet basin]

you dont even know me yet...

[violet basin]

huh

[hollow matrix]

yo, new year new to DND trying to figure out how to set up my character sheet in my class on DND beyond I have an idea on how I’d like to do it, but I would appreciate some help

[violet basin]

ok, what you need?

[limpid plaza]

#dnd-newcomers

[hollow matrix]

Thx

[lavish flame]

Yeah, this isn't a particularly interesting species choice tbh

[fossil hollow]

Its just... Spells and cold resistance

[lavish flame]

Spellcasting (Ray of Frost, Ice Knife, and Flame Blade), Cold Resistance, and Darkvision

Nothing special at all

[honest ivy]

The LF DM command submission thing seems to not be working for me

[karmic mason]

If both happens with that problem player, I'll probably just leave the group.

Nothing happens*

[tough sandal]

I wanna start doing some notetaking (for its own sake) on the DND campaign setting books I've read to completion, which should I do? :3c

1. Tal'Dorei (Vox Machina)
2. Wildemount (Mighty Nein)
3. Theros (Theros)

[lavish flame]

Personally I think the Wildemount book is the best of the 3, so I'd say that

[narrow moss]

what's a theros

[uncut zenith]

Theros is a Greek myth inspired MTG setting that was adapted to D&D a few years back

[narrow moss]

oh neato

[lavish flame]

Theros is a Greco-Roman inspired mythic fantasy setting

its a Magic the Gathering world, as well

[narrow moss]

mtg has so many worlds and crossovers they may as well share.

[karmic mason]

Grimm
You wanna know something even worse?

[high mesa]

i mean same company so it makes sense

[narrow moss]

same company right?

[karmic mason]

The session zero if you wanna call it that?

I got assistance for a total of 10 minutes

We were in there for an hour and a half.

[high mesa]

they should really make a dnd book from the setting they use in the baldur's gate magic set, really think that would be a cool setting to port over to dnd

[lavish flame]

Yeah, they've done it a few times. They did Ravnica, Theros, and Strixhaven as full book releases. They did Lorwyn-Shadowmoor as a smaller digital release.

[narrow moss]

new session zero and the dm doesn't leave this time.

[karmic mason]

Meaning for half the stuff, I had to do it ON. MY. OWN.

[atomic kayak]

I mean, thats not unreasonable for a session 0

[karmic mason]

No its the same one

And yes, I'm already debating.

[narrow moss]

i mean you make sure the dm doesn't leave this time.

[high mesa]

still think it's crazy they didn't do an innistrad book

[narrow moss]

still report the creepy person to the staff.

[karmic mason]

No, he didn't leave.

He just never showed up.

[narrow moss]

...didn't you say they were there like for like a lil bit then left?

[lavish flame]

I'm surprised we haven't gotten a Dominaria D&D book. Isn't that one of the more prominent MTG settings?

[karmic mason]

No
He was in classes and left

[narrow moss]

sigh

yeah i'd report that too if it's applicable.

anyway what was i doing...

hums oak and ash and thorn

[grand elm]

They already have Ravenloft, which was part of the inspiration for Innestrad.

[fossil hollow]

You wound me (Theros lover)

[high mesa]

oh true forgot, have they done anything in that setting besides curse of strahd?

[narrow moss]

i'd probably like theros. might have to research for another month/etc

barovia? no idea besides some modules meant to lead into that.

[high mesa]

haven't felt like i've seen much more about ravenloft as a whole or barovia aside from the little section curse of strahd takes place in

[lavish flame]

But like... the actual books tho

[karmic mason]

Honestly

If I can't play DnD, I'm fine.

It's mainly the lack of a club I'm worried about. Since how my thing is, I NEED a club.

[lavish flame]

I love Theros, but Wildemount is just a perfectly formatted setting book

[fossil hollow]

Theros is a great book (for Theros campaigns)

[narrow moss]

i'd assume so

[high mesa]

honestly elsepth's theros arc would make for a cool dnd campaign

[fossil hollow]

doing a campaign rn where Erebos killed Heliod

[high mesa]

do some quests, get betrayed by the main god, and then escape out of the underworld and take revenge

[narrow moss]

curse your sudden yet inevitable betrayal

[high mesa]

that's pretty based

[lavish flame]

oooooh

[fossil hollow]

Im also totally not stealing ideas from Amphoreus from HSR

[high mesa]

does the god of the underworld being the leader of the pantheon lead to an early underworld breach kinda situation?

[fossil hollow]

Oh Erebos is wanting to turn every realm into the Underworld

[narrow moss]

oh no

that's so not cool man

[tough sandal]

Thanks y'all. You're making it easier to come to a decision based on the enthusiasm.

[high mesa]

should be fine as long as he doesn't get a brain freeze from some ice cream and find the lion's eye diamond

[narrow moss]

-# ice cream is good tho at least

[cold badge]

it should be a crime to not like ice cream

[idle oar]

Lactose intolerant folks cry

[narrow moss]

only if they are able to have it.

[high mesa]

i would scream if someone didn't like ice cream

[idle oar]

Lets remember food allergies exist and impact folks on a daily basis

[narrow moss]

yep

but asiiiiide from that...

[lavish flame]

I wonder what Deep Rothe ice cream tastes like

[fossil hollow]

honestly, i have never met a lactose intolerant person who did not care if they had dairy (unless they didnt have access to a bathroom or meds at that moment). Theyve all been "worth it"

[cold badge]

wait.. I forgor..

dude something just fell over and I just got a heart attack

[high mesa]

i'm lactose intolerant, so i only have ice cream if i know i will be home for the next hour

[narrow moss]

that's fair

[remote lynx]

Maid: The RPG x DND spinoff session... thinking

[high mesa]

totally worth though tbh

[fossil hollow]

case in point

[cold badge]

my house is haunted, nothing fell over 😭

[narrow moss]

well maybe the ghost was all 'oh crap' and put it back up

[cold badge]

I don’t mind having a gentleghost in my house

[narrow moss]

they're not spooky just clumsy

[cold badge]

ghosts have been misunderstood for all this time!!?

[narrow moss]

oh no some are jerks.

these were people after all.

[cold badge]

good point good point

[sand hawk]

Ik people say multi-class's are bad, but hear me out. Barbarian x Fighter

[fossil hollow]

thats not even a hot take of an MC

[sand hawk]

I didn't know

[lavish flame]

Barb/Fighter is very common

[lean wigeon]

i just hate multiclassing on a conceptual level

[lavish flame]

Especially as you get to higher and higher levels, where taking 3 levels in the other class would net you better stuff than continuing with your main class' progression

[sand hawk]

What about a barb/bard MC. Would that be good?

[lean wigeon]

you cant cast spells while raging

[fossil hollow]

Barb/Any caster (except for fiend warlock) sucks

[steel nymph]

hi guys !! i just joined the server :3

[woven flint]

Welcome to hell

[lean wigeon]

this makes me think about forced multiclassing

max level you can have for a single class is 12, so the rest of the 8 levels can only be used for multiclassing

like Lancer (not really)

[glass granite]

Hey

[steel nymph]

so grateful to be here

[lavish flame]

No spells while raging basically negates any spellcaster+Barbarian

[cold badge]

greetings

[sand hawk]

Wait, can an MC... be more than 2 classes?

[lavish flame]

Yup

[cold badge]

bloons tower defense_darkness

[sand hawk]

What's the limit

[lavish flame]

You can get a level in every class if you wanted

[sand hawk]

Btd was a clan tag i kept

[fossil hollow]

20 levels total, you have 13 in each of the abilities a class needs

[lavish flame]

The limit is "your character will absolutely suck, do you want to play that?"

[cold badge]

I see

[sand hawk]

I meant. What's the limit to amount of classes

[glass granite]

13

[fossil hollow]

theres 13 official classes

[glass granite]

Cuz that’s the amount of classes there are
Unless you homebrew!

[steel nymph]

guys lowkey i’ve been wanting to get into d&d for years and i know some of the rules but i still need a lot of help 😞 is there anything i should know??

[woven flint]

and there's like a bajillion homebrew classes
Only 5 of which are actually well written /j

[sand hawk]

So technically I could multi class bard/wizard/artificer/mage/paladin?

[woven flint]

Sure, but you probably wouldn't want to do that

[turbid vessel]

if you had at least a 13 in all your ability scores then yea

but like many people will say, it's a funny gimmick but it doesn't really lump together to anything special

[west vale]

You you don't have to memorize everything.
Take your time and communicate with your group.

[fossil hollow]

if you have a 13 at least in CHA, STR, INT, and WIZ. Also mage is not a class

[steel nymph]

thank you sm!! i’m planning on starting a campaign next yr

[sand hawk]

Im also a kobold race so I get dragonic sorcery, getting a spell like mage hand, or fire bolt (i forgot the category) at level 1

[sand hawk]

I thought it was lol

[west vale]

I also recommend starting small.
Before diving into a full campagin, start with a one shot, see what you learn, then repeat it a few times.

[main schooner]

If this is a question for the dnd beyond support thread let me know but what are your book recommendations to get the maximum race subclasses spells items etc accessible on ddb as everything is behind a pay wall and they dont have a one time purchase

[lavish flame]

There's no limit to how many classes you can grab. If you want all 13, you can have all 13

[woven flint]

Wizard is a class, which, yeah, is a Mage, but Wizard isn't officially called mage lol

Wizard?
More like
Weezard
Weezer Riff

[steel nymph]

okay! thank you

[sand hawk]

Wizard more like... the party's fire ball gun

[mild sierra]

How do I find a game or group of players

[woven flint]

The official classes are as follows
Artificer, Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue, Sorcerer, Warlock and Wizard

If that helps :>

[snow agate]

You guys dex fans or strength enjoyers

[snow agate]

#find-a-game #looking-for-players

[glass granite]

Dex

[lavish flame]

praying for Psion to see the light of say

[woven flint]

My first ever Dark Souls build was Strength,
so, I'm a big ol bonk lover

[mild sierra]

Do we just do the game over discord?

[woven flint]

"I don't care how much you hit me, I SAID I CAST BONK!!!!!!"

[snow agate]

I am considering stradin or dexadin

[sand hawk]

Int or wis

[cold badge]

in a call I believe

[turbid vessel]

isn't stradin just like the default paladin lol

[snow agate]

Nerd build

[mild sierra]

Ohh

[sand hawk]

Magic build

[snow agate]

Yes

[woven flint]

"Nice try, Int user!"
I throw a massive boulder at your big smart forehead

[cold badge]

I think it’d be way more fun irl

[snow agate]

Yeah to be fair if i was an adventurer id be like a 12 con 10 str wis or int build

I think I’d make a good cleric

[woven flint]

Can't use yer int ifn yer brain ain't in your head no more

[cold badge]

what if they sit the boulder down and have an intellectual conversation

[sand hawk]

I cast mage hand

[snow agate]

Int user didn’t read his spells

[woven flint]

Mage hand isn't stopping a boulder lmao

[sand hawk]

Who says it's not

[high mesa]

what about 50 mage hands?

[turbid vessel]

how many mage hands does it take to screw in a lightbulb

[woven flint]

Because it can only carry up to like... 10 pounds officially? lmao

[cold badge]

two maybe three

[sand hawk]

How strong is it.

[fossil hollow]

strong enough to carry 10 pounds

[woven flint]

Yeah

[bronze wave]

not strong enough to carry more then 10 lbs

[fossil hollow]

i reccomend reading the spell

[sand hawk]

Whats the speed of the boulder

[woven flint]

That also wouldn't matter

[sand hawk]

Awnser the question

[woven flint]

I destroy your brain with the boulder

[bronze wave]

is a 10lb rock a boulder? thoughts

[fossil hollow]

it would be easier if you just read the spells and the rules

[woven flint]

No more spells for you, smart man!

[sand hawk]

Shush im doing smth (jk)

[woven flint]

Wizard ain't even readin' his spells.

[snow agate]

No it’s a rock

Source im in geology

[woven flint]

Oh my god, he's not a wizard, HE'S A SORCERER!
that explains a lot more

[sand hawk]

How. Fast. Is. The. Boulder

[fossil hollow]

Irre. Le. Vant.

[woven flint]

Mach 20

[lavish flame]

Mage Hand prolly won't stop a boulder. Mage Hand could prolly stop a baseball thats been thrown, but thats probably the upper bound of weight and force it can handle.

The spell you want is Bigby's Hand

[woven flint]

I break the sound barrier and the laws of physics

[bronze wave]

mach 30

[sand hawk]

So it would be susceptible to something like firebolt, something that could break it in half

[fossil hollow]

what

[sand hawk]

More speed, the less force needed to break it

[lavish flame]

nah a firebolt isn't gonna do much to a person-crushing boulder

[bronze wave]

prob would be to fast

[fossil hollow]

where are you reading firebolt can break a boulder going mach 20 in half

[bronze wave]

and its a massive boulder

[fossil hollow]

DnD is not a physics simulator either. Youre already using spells.

[true rain]

#looking-for-players

[sand hawk]

So?

[lavish flame]

the magic does what it says on the tin

[sand hawk]

That also means it's not logical

[past blaze]

show me proof fire bolt can crack a boulder in half

[fossil hollow]

the rules do what they say they do. Feel free to homebrew whatever you want, but thats still homebrew

[lavish flame]

Mage Hand can only hold like 10 pounds before it just gets overpowered

[woven flint]

Yeah, and I threw an ANTI-MAGIC BOULDER AT YOU!
MUAHAHAHA

[fossil hollow]

Spells arent logical in the first place. Gods, dragons, and clerics arent logical in the first place

[woven flint]

(the reason its anti-magic is because its gonna kill ya!)

[lavish flame]

yeah its magical

[woven flint]

Normalize punching magic users in the teeth /silly

[sand hawk]

What if I just... summon construct (my class in dnd is actually an artificer)

[lavish flame]

it follows its own kind of logic, mostly divorced from reality's logic

[fossil hollow]

Play a monk and you get more chances to punch spellcasters

[woven flint]

I've played like... 6 monks brother.

[fossil hollow]

moar

[woven flint]

I'm looking at Pugilist as my backup class for Nealens campaign

it may or may NOT be Reginald

[turbid vessel]

the enemy wizard can't use vocal components if you just kiss them, duh

[west vale]

In person: By going to your local tabletopshop, library, and conventions.
Online: By signing up for one shots and getting to know the community either through Adventurers League, West Marches style games, or other independent posts.

[fossil hollow]

you cant just kiss them nonconsensually

[woven flint]

I don't know where the wizards mouth has been!

[sand hawk]

Same with that one spell that can lock entrances/exits and make it so they cant be opened

[bronze wave]

Ill stick to silence

[lavish flame]

Arcane Lock my beloved

[turbid vessel]

oh and what he can fireball me without my consent? these double standards, smh

[sand hawk]

Yeah (im new to dnd, i forget spell names)

[fossil hollow]

fireball is a workplace hazard, kissing someone is an HR violation

[woven flint]

I dunno, I'd rather have a fireball thrown at me than kiss a stranger

[turbid vessel]

and this is why you haven't levelled up yet, you're just not ready for the adventurer lifestyle /lh

[woven flint]

That's.. a take lol

[snow agate]

I’m not saying anything but paladins usually dump int/wis and max cha, which implies they’re a certain type of human

[lavish flame]

I kinda wish 2024's Arcane Lock worked like 2014's. It saddens me that its just a perfect lock unless you have magical means of opening it.

[proven nova]

I just realized Haste is a very good spell, I think?

[snow agate]

Yes

[glass granite]

It’s good ye

[rose wedge]

It's incredible.

[lavish flame]

Yeah its pretty great

[proven nova]

I can cast a spell and use my melee attacks with it.

I am very happy.

[lavish flame]

Oh yo I wouldn't cast it on urself

[proven nova]

No, no, I’m saying if someone cast it on me.

[lavish flame]

Ah I see, yeah perfect use case

I've got a Spores Druid ally that I wanna Haste. Their melee attack effects are pretty sweet

[turbid vessel]

spores druid astral monk, hastened attacks + flurry of blows

[fossil hollow]

i love breaking conc whenever someone casts haste
as a DM

[proven nova]

Me when I take Resilient Con:

[lavish flame]

Yeah, Concentration checks have me worried

War Caster + Resilient (Con) my beloved

[fossil hollow]

laughs in monsters dealing more than a smidge of damage

[proven nova]

Realizes you’re trying to hit a swords bard and they used their first ability.

Behold, 1d12 of AC.

[fossil hollow]

saves exist

[proven nova]

Buuuut, good news, I am (somewhat) susceptible to Wisdom Saves.

Not dex though. Bard.

[fossil hollow]

DEX isnt the only save

[proven nova]

But it is the one responsible for fireball.

:)

[fossil hollow]

and i have Synaptic Static

[proven nova]

Man, right to the jugular.

[proven nova]

Anyway, anywhere to post some art I found online that I may or may not want to use for my character?

[kindred oak]

Can someone cast Locate Creature on a creature whom they knew when it was alive, but died recently and became undead?

or... does anyone know how to detect them?

[bronze wave]

I would rule it they would be located to the dead creature but wouldnt know its status

[narrow moss]

got his book and shiny rocks

[kindred oak]

ah
the problem here, we already knew its status since we killed the demon who turned them into an undead, now the hardest part is to search for this undead... since he was died while doing mission alone

[lavish flame]

I'd suggest that this undeath qualifies as a "new form" so no

[hidden spindle]

If the creature you described or named is in a different form, such as under the effects of a Flesh to Stone or Polymorph spell, this spell doesn’t locate the creature.

Locate Creature would fail right here

[humble cairn]

But if they killed it and were there for the reanimation that might count as being familiar?

[lavish flame]

oh yeah, if you're familiar with it in either form then it shouldnt matter

[bronze wave]

is undeath a diff form

[humble cairn]

I mean yeah.

[bronze wave]

its the same form just decayed?

[kindred oak]

ack, scrying is failed too... then

and no we are not familiar with his undead form since he was died while doing a mission alone

[lavish flame]

Just, if you only know about Jimmy The Wizard, you couldn't cast Locate Creature on Jimmy The Lich

[kindred oak]

there is no way to divine its location then I guess?

[hidden spindle]

You could Locate Object the clothes

[lavish flame]

get familiar or seek higher level spells like Scrying

go meet the person in their new form and you should be fine

[kindred oak]

hmm i sea, thanks

or maybe ask our cleric to cast divination to an omnipotence god

[keen valve]

Odd thought and one I know would not work within the functions of 5e, but it'd be interesting to see what negative effects would come from having too high an ability score.

Like having a 20 in strength causing you to underestimate your own capabilities, or having too high of intelligence resulting in overthinking situations or missing simple solutions and so forth.

[atomic kayak]

thats not really an ability score thing

there are technically some effects that could be classed that way, namely some Int based things where things under a certain Int score (usually 2 or 4) are unaffected

[keen valve]

It's more rp focused, I know, but it's born from the scores regardless, using them as a gauge for what's too much and not.

[glad barn]

It would be interesting if you combined the idea of one score being at maximum meaning another score couldnt be.

Meaning, if your CON is 30 your DEX cant be, type stuff.

[lavish flame]

I often have my wizard make comparisons that only ppl who have studied magic would know. Recently a character asked "what is a Jellyfish?" and my Wizard replied "its like an aquatic Flumph."

I mostly do it for fun

[atomic kayak]

but saying too high a score has a detriment is a bit... contradictory to what they are

[crimson gulch]

It's best to jet let folks rp freely, I hate it when the barbarian player gets a great idea and someone tells them but your not smart

And giving detremenrs for high scores? Nah

[keen valve]

I don't think so. I've seen a system do something like that, you still had massive benefits from it, it's just that it had downsides.
I think it's only confusing if you don't think having too much of something is a bad thing. It's a surface reaction imo.

[glad barn]

That's when you hit them with the "You're all dumb, you're adventurers"

[atomic kayak]

5e is not those systems

[glad barn]

It can be though.

[atomic kayak]

What they are in 5e it would be contradictory to what they represent

[keen valve]

Yeah, hence why I started with this.

[glad barn]

Whatever your table agrees to lol.

[keen valve]

I'm experimenting with it in a homebrew system though, should be fun. 1d20 systems are always good fun.

[glad barn]

I could see 30 (or 20 for a humanoid) being a kind of commitment despite other things

So like a 20 CHA might cause a detriment in WIS in social situations. But 5e in general doesnt have a culture that is well versed in taking negatives.

So it's definitely something you one shot a few times and frame the right way

[keen valve]

Sorry I forgot to address it, but having the ability to have high enough one stat but not another is cool in concept to me.

Like having high con but not dex because of how BUILT you are, yk?

[glad barn]

Yeah. The hulk isn't great on a tight rope, etc

I think the 3 physical and 3 mental stats can definitely affect each other that way. I dont see crossover though

Having high or low STR doesnt change anything in your brain, and all that

[bronze wave]

meh Idk if i like that stuff unless it was rare

I think it often feels forced, that sounds more like pure rp

[keen valve]

It is pure rp.

[bronze wave]

my point is it wouldnt be touched by stats

[keen valve]

I'm big on systems being more integrated with rp.

[glad barn]

Most skill names are also forcing a number to RP

Sleight of Hand rarely describes what you do with it.

[bronze wave]

sure but you cant get a bad result from a high roll

it would be rare

[glad barn]

I agree, though players getting exactly what they want sometimes sucks for the PCs involved.

Like when they manage to kill a guy in a cutscene vs when they find out that guy was innocent, or troubled, or under pressure, or mind controlled, etc

[keen valve]

To describe what something would be like.

You rolled a high history check regarding a tome, and get like a 26, right? You start to imagine yourself in this world descriebd by the tome, actualizing a reality that's not there and experiencing it lucidly in your mind as you pause and live an entire life not your own entirely curated by your own mind and understanding of this world. You are confident, no- you have lived this entire reality and can without a doubt know anything about it, you are sure.

"So what do I know about this tome?"

You got distracted and forgot. You think it could be referring to fire magic?

[glad barn]

Nevertheless, I was just saying that making a word become a powerful word is just that, and I think negatives on a character sheet are a good way to let players give themselves their own narrative speed bumps

But if overused or forced by a DM, it can be bad. Which is something you can say about every other rule also, but this one too.

[keen valve]

Quite so.

Which is why I think that sorcerers are the best class.

[bronze wave]

I think thats gameplay chocies affecting rp which makes more sense

[bronze wave]

I would say a 26 also would be smart enough to remeber to look

that also would make me not want to roll as much bc damn if i roll high it might go bad?

[lavish flame]

yeah id be pretty upset if a 26 netted me literally no useable information about what I was aiming for

[bronze wave]

iffy preccedent

[keen valve]

That's not the point, you still get the answer, you just end up getting information that's totally useless too.

[glad barn]

I think in that example, I'd probably do something like "You find out [thing you wanted[, but also your mind is now exploding with so many details about the fire plane you occassionally share a few over the next scene"

But I also like throwing my players into situations >_>

More of a social RP curveball than a -3 to whatever if that makes sense.

[bronze wave]

I qoute

"ou got distracted and forgot. You think it could be referring to fire magic?"

they have to guess?

the rest is cool dont get me wrong but they should KNOW

[snow agate]

so based

[keen valve]

Poor phrasing on my part, but the answer is there. Or would be.

[lavish flame]

Yeah like I want something a little more concrete

[snow agate]

ive seen so many wizards and bards be entirely counterproductive by overthinking

[lavish flame]

The point of making a character good at something is so that they're good at it when it matters

[glad barn]

If only my players didn't refuse to roll any number with 2 digits.

[proven nova]

Wdym?

[glad barn]

I saw 3 separate [2] rolls in a session a few weeks back.

And it's never when they're doing some irrelevant nonsense. They get 18s then.

It's always the reflex save to avoid falling down a ravine.

[bronze wave]

my beloved the dc30

[lean wigeon]

maybe you might like Legend in the Mist or Fate for something like this

[keen valve]

I agree, I think lowlight vision should be used and implemented into D&D as opposed to darkvision, which should be given to more species. And dim light should have more effects .

Your comment has nothing relevant to that, I just wanted to say that.

[lean wigeon]

it kinda handles that sort of concept better

like, in LitM being a Dragon or some other Monstrosity means you cannot really interact with commoners in a meaningful way due to a disparity in Might between you and the commoner

in Fate, that would be handled by a compel on one of your personal aspects

[bronze wave]

daekvision would be cool if 96% of races didnt have them

[keen valve]

It should be Normal Vision, Lowlight, and Darkness. The majority having lowlight.

[narrow moss]

shrugs

[lean wigeon]

D&D just doesn't really do that kind of stuff because the point of having a high number is so that you're more likely to succeed. failing because you rolled too high just doesnt really make sense and also silly and unnecessarily punishing

like if a person invests points into STR that's because they want to be able to do athletics checks better, not so they would accidentally crush everything without intending to

[keen valve]

I forgot to respond to this. I do enjoy those systems!

I enjoy them so much! They're grrreat! I also love heavy RP homebrew systems too, they're all so fun.

[main schooner]

what are your book recommendations to get the maximum race subclasses spells items etc accessible on ddb as everything is behind a pay wall and they dont have a one time purchase

[crimson gulch]

Players handbook dungeon masters guide

Monsters of the multiverse has the most races

[glad barn]

PHB, TCE.

[main schooner]

I have 2014phb and tashas will add mom to it

[glad barn]

Maybe pick a setting youre really into and those books tend to have a good number of options. Like the 14 Eberron book or Theros or whatever.

[main schooner]

I swear every time I go to make a character there is always something missing a feat a subclass a race 🤣 i hate that there isn't a one time access everything purchase

[lean wigeon]

maybe add xanathar's in there too

[glad barn]

I dont use DDB.

I love XGE but Im a DM and that why I love it lol. I suppose it has a few player options too

[main schooner]

I have only played one campaign so far and I love ddb but hate the paywall how do you keep up with all the rules feats etc without the books and app? If you dont mind me asking

[glad barn]

Oh, I love the books. I just buy the physical books and copy most of the stuff I need onto index cards because Im old lol

And then just write monsters and PCs on paper so I dont really have a need for an app other than if I need a VTT for a map and a diceroller if I decide to run online

I mostly run in person though. And usually buy the books second hand >_>

[main schooner]

Ahh you go physical. And if you dont have the material a player wants to play? How do you get around this

[storm crow]

How long does it take to craft alchemist's fire

[glad barn]

Either tell them to get it or build it ourselves, but we're pretty comfortable as a table with brewing our own stuff.

[lean wigeon]

well, you need the books. if you had access to that kind of material without paying then you're either borrowing from someone else or you're accessing them in some "other" way

[glad barn]

You only need one person at the table to have a book when youre using physical books.

Suddenly its our monster manual

Or just become friends with the dude that runs your local comic book store and he sometimes lets you just sit there looking at TTRPG books as long as you make sure the Yugioh Kids dont steal anything

But that might be a bit more of a niche situation.

[main schooner]

I understand, I have so many ideas for characters that come from multiple sources. Granted I am new to dnd so I am just starting to dive in. But I'm also the guy that dives in deep and buy everything off Affirm and go overboard 🤣

[glad barn]

Its pretty common to have idea overload once even a little bit of the system 'clicks'. Youll get a chance to play lots of stuff. But even the basic rules without buying any books are enough to have a lot of fun

[narrow moss]

i saw the dwarf page

you did not tell me about their adorable kitty

hullo

[glass granite]

Hallo

[main schooner]

I have always been interested in dnd just never had the right friend group or know where to go to find a group. Finally talked my buddies into playing at 32 and now we play every 2 weeks

[glass granite]

Nice to make your acquaintance

[lean wigeon]

if you want to get access to most of the player facing content, then outside of the PHB, you'd want Xanathar's and Tasha's for subclasses, and MotM for races

i'd suggest buying from secondhand like idk facebook marketplace or smth to save on money

[glass granite]

You’ll see me around

[glad barn]

For sure. Facebook marketplace has a surprising number of whole 5e sets for sale cheap sometimes.

Just someone whos like "Omg Im done" thats just selling 8-12 books collections for like 50 bucks

[wispy star]

Is there a stealthy paladin subclass?

[glad barn]

Stealthy is a skillset anyone can be

[proven nova]

Dexadin

[glad barn]

Not a lot of Paladin skills taht dont involve them yelling LOOK AT ME though

[proven nova]

Multi class Rogue.

[main schooner]

Definitely gonna get motm and thanks lads I'll be on the lookout for more books.

[glad barn]

o>

[karmic mason]

Alright, I've made my decision

As much as I don't want to do it, I'm gonna give the DM an ultimatum.

If the problem player is not told to either stop, or the problem is not removed, then I'm leaving the group.

If they wanna deal with it, let them deal with it.

[glad barn]

Best way forward is straight with that sort of thing, ye

[wispy star]

I want to make a Changling Paladin that belongs to an order that takes a more lethal approach to dealing with people who dabble in darker forbidden magics.

[karmic mason]

I can say exactly what the problem player did wrong in 2 words

Changeling. Bard.

[glad barn]

Corellon Larenthian

...close enough, ahahah. >_>

[narrow moss]

i woulda said sexual harrassment but okay.

[karmic mason]

Yeah that too

[narrow moss]

you can be a bard and not a... problem.

[wispy star]

I thought about just being a rogue assassin but I kinda want those smites since they're dealing with fiends and whatnot.

[glad barn]

Paladins are brutal if they want to be. Oath is Law.

[karmic mason]

As detailed by piano earlier

[narrow moss]

makin muh way downtown

[lean wigeon]

you're kinda barking at the wrong tree

and losing sight of the
yknow
actual problematic part

[narrow moss]

nothing wrong with the origins, just the player.

[karmic mason]

I should have realized that the problem was the character was based on their gacha life oc

That was the red flag

[narrow moss]

idk what that is but hey

[hot marlin]

You got something to say about the great Coronal of Arvandor?

[fossil hollow]

Oh hey, its our favorite Fiend

[karmic mason]

The worst thing to come out of OC creation.

[glad barn]

I would if Dyno didn't stop me >(

[narrow moss]

hard to believe

[hot marlin]

Aaah, Ti is here! Somebody hide me

[fossil hollow]

Too late, youre in my sights

[narrow moss]

puts a tablecloth over Incubus

[fossil hollow]

cant hide unless you have 3/4 cover or total cover

[narrow moss]

totally works every time. Mostly.

[glad barn]

Most of the words that come to mind when I think of that Sun Elf chump are keywords that summon moderation.

[hot marlin]

... Corellon is not a sun elf.

[glad barn]

Proto-Eladrin Vunderkin, whatever lol.

[hot marlin]

Corellon is a god, the divine source of elvenkind, the shapeshifting laughing chaos, and if he was mortal he'd be... Like take every kind of elf except Shadar-Kai and throw them in a blender.

[narrow moss]

sounds fun at parties

[glad barn]

He massacred the orcs and gave up elf lands to the humans, and he refused to let his wife assassinate him even a little bit

[narrow moss]

oof not so fun

[hot marlin]

... Orcish propaganda.

[fossil hollow]

ive always been under the assumption that elves and corellon's shapeshifting was near unlimited

[hot marlin]

Corellon according to Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes, apparently. It says that he took forms like... a waterfall and a forest fire.

[fossil hollow]

Yee, very very powerful stuff

[glad barn]

And was played by Alan Rickman in Dogma

Hmm. The fact that a Netflix series is coming called Forgotten Realms means theres a very real chance they start casting FR deities at some point

Jack Black is Gond 2027

[narrow moss]

nah lol

[hot marlin]

If gods get to appear it will be the usual suspects

[high mesa]

the rock, jack black, and chriss pratt

[narrow moss]

ehhhh

[glad barn]

Chris Pratt can be Lathander.

[glossy otter]

wait, we going about gods and actors?

[hot marlin]

I don't think Dwayne Johnson can pull off Mystra

[glad barn]

"hey morning peeps. bless"

[narrow moss]

i guess lol

[fossil hollow]

didnt we have a convo about which actor would play dnd chars before?

[hot marlin]

But I do not think much of Dwayne Johnson's acting to be honest.

[narrow moss]

no idea i probs wasn't here for that

[glossy otter]

idk what it is but Tony Todd would've made a perfect Bane

[glad barn]

We try to avoid repeating conversations? <_< Lol.. We're terrible at that

[narrow moss]

circles are fun tho

[hot marlin]

The man is the modern day Will Smith. Not a real actor, no range, no skill. Just one character he does at nauseam.

[narrow moss]

usually. sometimes. maybe.

[glad barn]

Alan Rickman would be a fine Kelemvor.

[hot marlin]

Alan Rickman is dead.

[glad barn]

I also didn't mean him.

[hot marlin]

And Kelemvor was excellently cast in Mask of the Betrayer, they should copy that

[glad barn]

Damn, Im blanking Whats the guy from Rosencrantz & Gildenstern are dead.

[narrow moss]

...gods i don't remember either.

[glad barn]

Not the blonde guy. The other guy. He was in 5th Element too I think.

[narrow moss]

bruce?

[glad barn]

No lol.

[glossy otter]

Malcom Mcdowell would be a killer Myrkul

[hot marlin]

As for Myrkul... Mask of the Betrayer had the best portrayal of him ever.

[narrow moss]

oh thank goodness.

[glad barn]

Gary Oldman! Lol. Gary Oldman as Kelemvor.

[hot marlin]

That works. Gary Oldman can pull off anything.

[glossy otter]

this is reminding me of when my group and I had a casting call for our dnd game with various actors

[glad barn]

The Rock would actually be a decent retired Minsk.

[narrow moss]

dunno name but probs a "know him when i see him"

[glad barn]

"It is time to kick evil's buttocks" would be alright out of Dwayne.

[narrow moss]

also please do not insult minsc

[glad barn]

Hey, I like Rocky.

[narrow moss]

lol

[hot marlin]

I admit I prefer when established characters don't make an appearance.

[narrow moss]

yeah hard to live up to the memory

[glad barn]

Benedict Cumberbun could play a mercury dragon.

[hot marlin]

It is too easy to write an FR story by having Drizzt, Volo, Elminster and Minsc

[glad barn]

Just go full on madhatter with it.

I do wonder if FR is going to start getting hard canonized by TV shows though

That's going to get real awkward if that show brings in audience into the TTRPG

[narrow moss]

dunno

[hot marlin]

Most likely the show will be a flop.

[glossy otter]

I mean the FR book soft canonized certain modules but tried to make it clear it was up to the dm

[glad barn]

I would not be surprised, yeah lol

But you never know what's going to hit anymore man.

The weirdest shows are suddenly everywhere, every few months.

[glossy otter]

I have hope for some kind of dnd media that works

movie/series wise

[glad barn]

I think them dumping a little more budget into APs would actually do some work.

[narrow moss]

anything that would work needs to not be an exclusive

[hot marlin]

I think the show will have one lackluster season before being forgotten. We live in a post-Witcher world.

[glad barn]

Dont just have one CR have like 6 of em. Double down on Dimension 20. Finally tell people what Exodus is.

[fossil hollow]

IG you can trully call it... the Forgotten Realms

[narrow moss]

lol

[hot marlin]

Live action fantasy shows, after the GoT disaster and the Witcher disaster are not likely to attract any audience.

[fossil hollow]

-# im still a bit miffed about the guy who wants to make a GoW series

[narrow moss]

you don't mean gears do you

[hot marlin]

I don't know why Hollywood is so desperate for franchises to adapt.

[glad barn]

OH. I was like Game of Wars?

[narrow moss]

god wouldn't be good either tho

whichever gow it is.

[glossy otter]

my only theory to why the series would be bad is only due to the whole thing of players having a preconcieved notion of lore

[narrow moss]

hear me out tho, kratos with a chainsaw gun.

[glad barn]

That seems less efficient than what he uses lol

[narrow moss]

lol

[glad barn]

Which is like, magical 25 foot reach returning double handed mythical battle axes or whateve

[narrow moss]

true. man weaponizes anything.

[hot marlin]

I don't see the point of a GoW show. Story is said and done.

[narrow moss]

oh yeah those things.

[glad barn]

I could dig a Dead Space show maybe.

Bioshock could have potential too.

[narrow moss]

i think the remake got that covered.

[glossy otter]

Maybe a better take on Until Dawn

[glad barn]

I have run Dead Space and Bioshock as 5e one shots and had a blast >_>

[narrow moss]

i do not trust them to do bioshock right.

[hot marlin]

Dead space, sure. But mostly because it's not a character-centered piece. It's a setting.

[fossil hollow]

yeah, theres literaly "Give Me Story"

[narrow moss]

i might want dead space if they start where 3 ended.

give us proper closure. but i doubt it.

[hot marlin]

Until Dawn was already basically a movie disguised as a game, wtf

[glossy otter]

I meant the movie Until Dawn, the game was great

[narrow moss]

until dawn was written with the idea that no one might have made it out, so that is why the story is how it is.

kinda too open

[glossy otter]

I mean fair, the more i think about it, why did they even make that into a movie. Though that's veering it way too far off topic

[narrow moss]

never knew there was a movie.

[hot marlin]

Oh. It's an original story not an adaptation...

[narrow moss]

but idk dnd media is hit or miss

[hot marlin]

Anyways, for the FR show... I honestly think they'd be better off adapting one of the better novels.

[glossy otter]

honour among thieves was good along with Wrath of the Dragon God (even if it's just my guilty pleasure movie)

[hot marlin]

Honour among thieves was good because it was basically fantasy Guardians of the Galaxy

[glossy otter]

I just liked it because it felt closer to the source material than most of the movies asides from dragonlance, and I've heard how everyone felt about that one....

[hot marlin]

How everyone feels about what?

[copper ivy]

Why is finding a dnd group so hard😢

[narrow moss]

just is i guess

[glossy otter]

the dragonlance movie. The reception from what I've heard wasn't great

[narrow moss]

what movie?

jk but i really should read that series.

[glossy otter]

though maybe I should rather say most people rather because I never know who did like it

[hot marlin]

I don't know anyone who saw it

[glossy otter]

dang, it's more forgotten than the forgotten realms Badum tsk

[narrow moss]

bwaaa bwaaa bwaaaaaaaaa

[copper ivy]

What movie?

[hot marlin]

And I think there's something a bit perverted about using this... fifty years old franchise to make a new show

Endlessly repeating media made in the 70s and 80s is getting tiring.

[fossil hollow]

Addams Family got hit with that

[glossy otter]

I mean we technically have stranger things to thank for jumpstarting dnd

[glad barn]

Dune like >_>

[hot marlin]

Season 1 of stranger things yeah. But Stranger Things was an original property and a new licence. I think a D&D story kinda deserves a new setting in the modern days

[glad barn]

I wonder how many Netflix meetings with fantasy execs started with "People love Wheel of Time, right?"

[proven nova]

My dad told me I should sit down and read that series because it’s infinitely better than the……………..series, for lack of a better word.

[glad barn]

I didnt get super far into it, which apparently was me doing it wrong lol

The last series I remember reading that I got into was probably The Dark Tower.

[proven nova]

Tbh I’ve been hesitant to read at all. I don’t know what kinds of books to lose myself in.

[glad barn]

There's tons of fantasy out there. It's not all great. But it is fun to consume, lol

[feral barn]

Not sure where to ask but I got questions on how to fill my character sheet

[glad barn]

#dnd-newcomers is probably a good place to ask

[feral barn]

Thank you

[snow agate]

in a group with a druid, a rogue, and a fighter,
would you add a paladin or a cleric

[fossil hollow]

Cleric

to even out the caster/martial

[snow agate]

valid

[hot marlin]

Paladin. The druid covers most of what the cleric would be needed for.

[fossil hollow]

IG Aura of Protection is also neat for the rogue and fighter

[glad barn]

I would add another fighter >_>

[narrow moss]

i'll say paladin

but no lawful dumbs

[glad barn]

I just pictured a Ranged Fighter, a Melee Fighter and a Burst Rogue with a Controller/Healer on tow that can do summons and that just seemed brutal lol

But otherwise I think a Cleric events that out.

[hot marlin]

Though what that group really needs is another dedicated spellcaster, like a sorcerer, bard or wizard. And then add a warlock or paladin.

[narrow moss]

they might need a face regardless

[hot marlin]

Well "needs" not really.

[narrow moss]

i said might.

[hot marlin]

The rogue can get expertise on social skills if needed

[narrow moss]

it's a nice to have

[proven nova]

It is really hard to play Conquest from a role-play perspective. Mainly because I feel like I would make one stupidly evil and I want to make one be more human than that. In essence, I feel like my writing would make a joke out of a character that needs to be serious.

[glad barn]

Face is a role, not a stat block

[hot marlin]

Druid can get insight, rogue can get persuasion. Done.

[narrow moss]

true

[glad barn]

The player that can get the most out of NPCs without a roll is actually the face >_>

[narrow moss]

yey teamwork tho

i picked paladin cuz auras and whatnot tho.

[hot marlin]

Aura of protection, once you reach the higher levels, is a group saver.

[knotty pasture]

Quick question, Twilight Cleric's Twilight Sanctuary is said to create a sphere of dim light, so does that mean it triggers a Gloom Stalker Ranger's Umbral Sight to be immune to enemy Darkvision?

[narrow moss]

yes

[craggy summit]

I agree, but at the same time, a good face is someone who can also succeed on those 20+ DC charisma checks with no problem 💪

[hot marlin]

Nothing makes a front line as strong as a paladin and monk working together

[woven depot]

Why my name got fruit in jt

[narrow moss]

kibbeh

[hot marlin]

Yes

[glad barn]

Yeah, but that charisma check is just shifting disposition. Youre still going to jail, but you dont get elbowed as much

[hot marlin]

Bear in mind: If your allies also use darkvision, you may be in trouble

[knotty pasture]

Wicked, guess I know what Gloom Stalker rangers can combo at

[fossil hollow]

playing Eve of Ruin rn, the paladin's aura have saved our arse a lot so far

[knotty pasture]

That would be different right? Since by that point the enemy is within range of the Twilight Cleric themselves

[narrow moss]

that why i suggest paladin but a cleric works in other ways too

both are solid

[hot marlin]

Oh. Is it good? I kinda... Hated the campaign when I read it.

I thought it was nostalgia driven slop, width without depth.

Thing is, a group with a fighter, druid and rogue has two weaknesses. Let's make a game out of it, who can find them?

Hint: One of the weaknesses is solved by a paladin, another by the cleric.

[knotty pasture]

Weak cha game, I imagine negotiation is difficult with npcs

[fossil hollow]

it sucks, DM had to vamp up some stuff

[knotty pasture]

Unless the Rogue double downs on being a face

[fossil hollow]

Pun not intended, playing a Dhamphir

[hot marlin]

Nope! Though that is a valuable idea, it's not what I was thinking of.

[narrow moss]

idk enough to be sure

weak defense and weak healing?

idk fighter can only tank so many peeps at once.

[knotty pasture]

Wild Shaped Druids can be deceptively bulky

[narrow moss]

true

[hot marlin]

Well problem 1 is: how does the group deal with being outnumbered by weaker foes? Problem 2 is lack of melee support. The fighter needs a buddy. A wild shaped druid can do that but can't also help in other ways while doing it.

[narrow moss]

ah right control

at least i got the problem 2 right sorta

[knotty pasture]

I dunno about 2, cuz I remember my Ancestral Guardian Barb just doing all the melee work on their own

But that's a dedicated defensive build in itself

[narrow moss]

and a barb

[fossil hollow]

ancestral though is very defensive

[narrow moss]

the question had a druid

[hot marlin]

The fighter is a machine when it comes to holding the line and punishing foes but when you're outnumbered (and you normally always are) those foes can go around the fighter to aim for the rogue.

[proven nova]

14th level (if you get to then) makes it really damaging.

Throw 4d6 of force damage.

[hot marlin]

And yeah. No defenses against magic also hurts.

[karmic mason]

Anyways @narrow moss I got a genuinely good character idea I wanna run and see if it'd be cool

[narrow moss]

okay...?

[karmic mason]

Artificer Wizard who just makes machinery to use his spells more efficiently, in an attempt to revolutionize spell casting

[hot marlin]

So I think that group needs both a paladin and... either a cleric, a wizard, a warlock or a sorcerer. But my vote is that paladin takes priority

[narrow moss]

yeah that was my reasoning for pally over cleric

plus dat aura

[hot marlin]

Moreover having a paladin means that the fighter can grab a bow to deal with long range or flying foes and leave the melee to the paladin and wild shaped druid.

[narrow moss]

true

[woven flint]

I'm doing the Paladin thing, having a final stand against the Lich whike the party escapes through a portal back to the material plane...

I owe a vampire a favor anyway, I'm sure that she's not gonna let me stay dead, maybe lol

[fossil hollow]

You aint dying on my watch!

[woven flint]

Oh hush and go on

This is what I want for Jabal! RAGGHH

[fossil hollow]

another party member that died to protect her... shes in shambles

[glossy otter]

the more I look into the spirit dragons, I'm curious how one would look for the netherese

[woven flint]

Dao Strength.
Genie Honor!
RAAAAAGHHHHH

[fossil hollow]

they look so damn cool

[glossy otter]

damn right, I can't stop gushing over them XD

[fossil hollow]

Dammit Tokii, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BE A CHAD

[woven flint]

Salutes for Jabal.

He died like a true Dao, his Father would've finally been proud of him

[humble cairn]

Did you lose a character?

[limber trail]

Did Ti take another soul?

[woven flint]

Nope, Nealen did

[fossil hollow]

No, Nealen

[limber trail]

Shame

[woven flint]

Sakhir Jabal, my Earth Genasi Noble Genies Paladin died so that the party could attempt an escape

And they escaped

[humble cairn]

Ahh, a hero's death! Magnificent!

[fossil hollow]

Got a Helm of Brilliance of rmy troubles

[woven flint]

He really was Noble

I wonder how Jabals father would react

[humble cairn]

My Swords Bard once facilitated an escape attempt by Charm tanking in a small hallway.

[woven flint]

Jabal took a whole round from a Lich at level 11 so the party could escape, everyone but him survived and his father was notified of his death in the two months that the party had down time, Jabals father, Juruf, was proud that he died an honorable death 🫡

[narrow moss]

charm tanking, you say?

[umbral girder]

I have murdered Tokii today

[narrow moss]

oh no

[serene garnet]

Could sorcerer have a spellbook as flavor?

[narrow moss]

maybe as a journal discovering the powers they've used before or just 'know how to use'

i'd be very interested in a sorc pretending to be a wizard tbh

[serene garnet]

I just really want a Grimoire

But draconic sorc seems good

[celest aurora]

Hey everyone my friend @hollow owl is new to DND and is trying to find a campaign that is new player friendly and a loving and kind dm that's willing to sit down and teach them they just got removed from are campaign because it was to fast pace and built for more veteran based players if any of you could reach out to them and help them into a campaign that would be a blessing

[serene garnet]

I think we have a spot open

[celest aurora]

They are a bit shy to new people so please don't push to hard. And I'll let them know.

[serene garnet]

We do chat not call so if being shy is a problem we can fix that

[woven flint]

Welcome to your friend :>

[hollow owl]

waves.

[woven flint]

Howdy!

[celest aurora]

There you go uni I really hope you have a good time with this one

[serene garnet]

Hi

Tokii isn't in it sadly

[celest aurora]

Echo has a lot of practice and everyone here can help if you have questions

[serene garnet]

No I don't 💀

I ain't the dm

[celest aurora]

You've been here a while is what I ment

[serene garnet]

Oh yeah

[hollow owl]

Am uh Uni, I is king of femboys OwO

[celest aurora]

Lol

[narrow moss]

henlo

[serene garnet]

I love femboys

[celest aurora]

Oh heya grim long time no see

[hollow owl]

OwO Flails.

[narrow moss]

remind me where you've seen me while being vague? I guess?

my brain isn't braining today

[celest aurora]

I spoke with you a while back

[narrow moss]

probably did yeah

well hullo then

[celest aurora]

You and someone else tried to help me try to help me with DND beyond

[woven scroll]

I need help with that crap ;-;

[narrow moss]

it's annoying af

[celest aurora]

Still hate it btw

[woven scroll]

I have no content so guess i'll die type sh

[serene garnet]

No

[woven flint]

Guh.

[narrow moss]

and homebrewing anything is a pain.

even if it's an 'official' class/species/etc

[serene garnet]

DND beyond is meh

[narrow moss]

i really don't want to touch it if i don't have to

[hollow owl]

OwO

[serene garnet]

But I have doing math

[woven scroll]

anyone got smth better?

[narrow moss]

i got a fillable pdf sheet instead lol.

[woven flint]

One of my teammates said they're gonna put aside some gold to build a golden statue of my now deceased Genies Paladin.

He would've loved that lmao

[serene garnet]

Math and me is a no no

[celest aurora]

Omfg same

[narrow moss]

i have half the equation to make my char tho

college of glamour here i come.

[celest aurora]

I use mpmb character sheet

[sharp temple]

Was good :>

[narrow moss]

i figure as long as i can keep track of everything and the DM gets a copy, it don't matter none

i just really don't like the dndbeyond atm

[hollow owl]

KANAME!!!!!!

[sharp temple]

WEEEEEEEEEE

[celest aurora]

Beyond is good for books

[narrow moss]

lol not even then. they would not process my card

[celest aurora]

Omg you two

[narrow moss]

i got my books through amazon instead. biggest middle finger to me, that dndbeyond site.

and the money i saved, I got dice too. and I'm still under what i woulda paid.

[hollow owl]

What Kaname amazing person

[serene garnet]

I might make a sheet if you help with that book

[sharp temple]

:> i exist to cause havoc

[serene garnet]

You wanted to join a campaign?

[woven flint]

I'm doing a big think on my next Eve of Ruin character, My Genies Paladin was absolutely smoked

[celest aurora]

I just download the PDFs, it's not illegal DND is released as an open source material

[hollow owl]

Wiggles. Yush

[serene garnet]

Oki

[woven flint]

I'm thinking
Rift Hitter Pugilist (Third Party Class) They Punch so hard that they make portals and have 30 foot range on melee attacks

Abberant Mind Sorcerer
World Tree Barbarian
And
Stars Druid

[serene garnet]

My next character I wanna play is a drow cleric or wizard

[sharp temple]

I wanna try to make my homebrew race Behon into a character

[serene garnet]

W

I wanna homebrew a race that's human with dragon features

[celest aurora]

I'm the ghost rider in mine

[serene garnet]

Like tail scales horns and claws talons

[sharp temple]

A dragon kin?

[serene garnet]

But mostly human

[celest aurora]

Nope a litch hound.

[woven scroll]

yall what you think of Thri-Kreens

[hollow owl]

I have so much art

[woven flint]

Me too, bud, me too.

[serene garnet]

I was thinking half dragon half human but idk what ya talking about

[serene garnet]

Of what kind?

[woven flint]

Third Favorite Species
Behind Minotaur and Orcs lmao

[hollow owl]

Many different species of femboys

[sharp temple]

Dragonkin, half dragon half man

[celest aurora]

Lol welp

[woven scroll]

trying to pick a race for my next campaign

[serene garnet]

Ummmmm

[woven flint]

Are you new here as well? 🤔

[lean wigeon]

do u have kobold femboy

[serene garnet]

Is it a normal race you can pick or?

[sharp temple]

i wonder how a Giant homebrew would work

[serene garnet]

Don't ask why did you ask!

[sharp temple]

yes but they are knwon in DND As dragon born

known**

[serene garnet]

Nooo

[celest aurora]

Oop

[woven scroll]

rip gif