#ug-maths-physics
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Nice. And the housekeeper solved the problems that the professor couldnโt? Like Good Will Hunting?
too romantic
together perhaps ๐ค
no no
the housekeeper isnt good at maths
but the professor gets to show the beauty of maths
to her
couldnt be me
u sure about that?
son root lmaooo
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out of all the names in the word they had to choose that
Sonโs name should be ฮฑ
thats way better
X ร A-12 enters the chat
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But Erdรถs didnโt have memory loss
the book wouldnt sell if it were about him tho
He has quite a unique life though
eigen also sounds like a good name
This channel should be #maths-lounge
lol the son is named as "Root"
not because that is his name
its cuz he has such flat hair like the square root symbol
that the prof calls him Root
ฯroot
lmaoo
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very simple i see
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Kinda like my approach but wayyyyy concise
Damn
I was curious about how a cross product could be represented by complex numbers, and was intrigued to discover, after some analysis, that:
$\mathbf z \times \mathbf w = \frac {z\bar{w} - w\bar{z}}{2}$
AlexV
AlexV
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Nice
Whatโs more interesting is that the dot and cross products can be expressed neatly in a pair of similar expressions in z and w.
Nice question by the Australians though.
Iโm trying to learn a bit about inequalities. Any interesting problems?
Bots dont have to learn.. U r smart enough
Havenโt you heard of machine learning? ๐
Something like this?
Nice. Looks interesting.
wheres this from?
One of the questions we were given during math camp
Not sure about the source
Uhh for imo.. but since there aren't a lot of math geniuses here the training we do is wayyyyyyy easier compared to the actual imo
I mean someone as dumb as me got top 10 in the country, almost managed to make the imo cut
then ur not dumb ๐
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Btw fp2 session when?
22 and 24
whats the soln for this?
Epicc thx
I don't remember exactly will have to solve it again, will do it tmrw
Have 2 papers tmrw so preparing for then atm
oke sure
Then 3 days break so will solve it
nicee
oh wow
Wow
Lmaoo moderator u shud know dis
!remind 1day
Sesh bot epic
Yes
Don't want to announce them?
Time
I have it at 8 gmt +5
im gonna do it at night gmt+7
so it would be like
evening or afternoon for u
u would be done with the paper alrdy
That destroys the point of the session lmaoo
eh??
Session before the paper for preparation?
Oh I dunno about cies
I'm talking about my internals
Np
24th
Which country?
Hint1: ||2a + b + c = (a+b)+(a+c) then use AM-GM||
Fp2
One with timezone gmt+5
||This reduces it to
(a+b+c)/((a+b)(b+c)(c+a)) <=? 3/8||
Haha itโs all over the place. Let me write it out neatly later. Need to go out to get a few things done.
ah okay sure
I'm only concerned about P2 and 23 works perfectly for me
okay nice
@hushed dock can we have sesh on 22 and 23? as fp1 and a2 fp2 respectively
both 9pm gmt+7
thenkss
Here it is!
looks complicated
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See solution above
where did u derive the standard II?
you know me well
im not a fan of inequality questions
Because I asked the same question myself ๐
hahaha i see
Haha they are quite fun because itโs not always immediately obvious how they should be tackled.
And also there may be more than one method to solve it.
hmm i see
im more into analysis questions
i dont know why, but i just cant like inequality questions like those
how did you solve it?
I used Jensen's inequality, will send solution tmrw
Cause I'll have to do it again, don't remember the exact working
Sounds interesting.
Well this is a maths channel ๐
Whoโs in the new pfp?
๐คฃ
Here's my solution
Oh and this is Jensen's Inequality
hopefully i didnt make any mistake
Nice ๐
thx
u started with what was needed to be proven to prove it?
uhh yea
Begin with the end in mind
proofs shouldnt start like that
it must start from from a true statement and then becoming what is needed to be proven
basically true => unknown means that unknown is true
unknown => true doesnt imply if the unknown is true or not
have u learned mathematical logic?
I think he reduced statement to be proven into a different form and then proved that.
So the inequality should have a question mark at the top until the end where it is proven.
yeah it should be the other way around
from the true statement to the unknown statement
If the question asks to prove 100<101 can we first subtract 100 from each side and show that this equivalent or asking to prove that 0<1? Then prove 0<1 from first principles. And therefore it is proven that 100<101. Is this not valid?
first principles?
if you are asked to prove 100<101, u can do scratch work by subtracting 100 each side to get 0<1, then just have to prove 0<1 of course
but in the actual prove
you have to start from the true statement (that is the 0<1)
then add 100 to both sides to show that it holds for 100<101
Yes so thatโs rewriting it backwards
Anyway which paper are you doing later?
fp1 surely
maybe the same paper that was used last time
or i can get another variant
I see
wait math is logical?
hmmmm
....
joke it was
:)
Perriot slowly losing hope
$\int_{0}^{1} \left\lfloor \frac{1}{x} \right\rfloor^{-1}dx$
The ฯerrot
@rancid schooner whenever u feel like it
Just when I was trying to relax before lunch ๐
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Cuz you have reputed role
so i dont have? :(
Eminem is adding for all roles
nice ๐
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3-hour study sessions
im jk
Contributor and reputed roles have same perks so no point
Is that the correct answer @tawdry gull ?
yes it is
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Thanks
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so u did it geometrically?, i did it using algebra
i did it in my head, but thought i should show the diagram for clarity :)
ah i see
do show your solution
nice
What does this mean
Maybe itโs paired
(a,b) where a and b are integers modulo 7?
Ok thanks, I wasn't a 100% sure so I posted here
Gave +1 rep to The_Pierrot#7889
โค โยฒ is the set โค โ ร โค โ
When required to solve puzzles ๐
CRT
is that a new kind of MRT?
Cathode Ray Tube ๐
What keyboard do you use to write stuff like this without latex?
Just copy from a webpage with those symbols :)
For superscripts and subscripts smalltext.io is very useful
Anyway have preset my phone to substitute โ^2โ with ยฒ, etc.
Ohhh
If you use Gboard you can directly type powers by long clicking the number btw
I see. Iโm using an iPhone.
Gboard>iOS keyboard tho (imo) atleast that's what I use on the iPad
Oh and found something cool, there's a Latex google dictionary which you can add to ur Gboard to type symbols using latex
(In case anyone wants to try)
Nice
Z square test with 7 degrees of freedom
the fuck
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Very creative
What if it's just the square of the 7th term in a sequence with terms writen as โคโ
Waaa the roles are aesthetic
estetik
Alex: โจโจ
ecstatic
yes. but show using complex numbers.
of course
@tawdry gull
AlexV
yep
Second part?
let others do it haha
Itโs interesting that when unmodded, it equates to zero, but when using the mod it becomes the cosine rule.
Damn wtf did I just walk in on๐คฃ
Fun with complex numbers ๐
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Talking about complex numbers here
https://youtu.be/bOXCLR3Wric
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102 Combinatorial problems, by ...
If only all school teachers were like 3b1b/pierrot
Maybe ฯerrot can be persuaded do study sessions by topic from time to time
And anyone else who wants to host
i stopped watching halfway cuz i know what gonna happen already
as soon as he shows 1/2 (f(1)+f(-1))
i stopped
Pierrot already done with all questions in the book he showed
Combinatorics is fun
not to me ๐ญ
Fun because the problems sound so simple.
And can be solved in more ways than one.
Arent those the super scary maths qs
Haha what crocodile?
No no haha fun doesnโt mean easy
If i remember the q correctly
How many possible arrangements are there if you split the letters of the words crocodile into 3 different groups with the 2 C's in 2 different groups
You mean how many different ways can such groups be formed?
Yeah
Lemme see if ican find the paper
Previous parts weren't really related
And sorry for sending AS math in ug math๐
How did u get the q lol
Past paper alr leaked lol
Cie doing a good job
Interesting. Will take a look later.
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Is it 105?
Here's the thing
Everyone is getting diff ans๐
Like on youtube
I've seen a guy get 65
And another guy get like 500 or smthn like that
So idk
But that's what it is probably
If you got it
Haha not necessarily. What did you get?
Ok itโs 65
That's what 1 guy on youtube was saying as well
But idt i got that lol
I was very far off
I got like something thousand if i remember correctly
I think you just forgot to divide by 252/13
so you'll lose only 1 mark for that step
how would you solve it?
How would you solve this @tawdry gull ?
In the exam
Idk what I did
Was something weird
But now that I took a look at it again
I would probably like
Have a combination for each different group then multiply all by each other
Didn't try it so idk if it'll work
I see
how did you do it
$\frac 12 \left[\binom 52 \left(1+1+\binom32\right)+\binom51 \left(\binom42 + \binom42 + \binom41\right)\right]=65$
AlexV
First assume the C's are distinguishable and groups are labelled, then divided by 2 to remove this restriction.
I seee
Alright
Thank you
I'm trynna be like you when I grow up
but wait
I don't understand what's the 1 for?
Itโs actually $\binom 33$
AlexV
@young marten
Sure
Thanks again man
Pleasure
Appreciate your help๐
$\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\sin(x) \ln(x)}{x}\ dx$
The ฯerrot
@rancid schooner if u feel like doing it haha
Itโs supposed to be a relaxing Sunday ๐
theres no relaxing in maths
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There is ๐
my god
Can an AL student solve it?
umm, probably yes with a bit of cheats
I see
it involves the euler mascheroni constant
which isnt taught in AL
but if u can understand it, then it should be possible
and other integral tricks too which isnt in AL
...yes
Maybe ฯerrot can be convinced to host a study session on interesting integrals
No, he has original ideas, no need for bprp
Pierrot original integrals 
ฯ. Pierrotโs Integrals.
I'm calling it the ans will be a multiple of -ฯ/2 or something
close
pi^e kek
pi^e^r rฯt
apparently (-ve int)^(odd decimal) gives math error smh
I wonder if we can ever answer (-1)^e and (-1)^pi
Why complex
Idk
Cause like fractional power
Involves root
So root of negative->complex?
Idk
Hmmmm
Just a guess
Also thought about it again yeah that's dumb
But still could be complex
Cause there probably is a solution
And if the solution isn't real
Then it probably is complex๐
Any hints for this?
frullani integral
proceeds to spend 5 hours in Google/yt ends up with 0 knowledge
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no +c either, so no 1 mark either
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We didn't use partial fraction decomposition with complex numbers to integrate 1/(x^2+1) in calculus 2. We usually use a trigonometric substitution to integrate 1/(1+x^2), i.e. the tangent substitution. But here the key is to simpl...
nice
is there a way to request for a study session (to be hosted by an someone else), and for people to indicate interest in joining?
Ask the person (host) if they want to host then tell host to ping pt
As for interested peeps i think study sesh gets pinged not sure?
What if itโs just to indicate interest for a study session for a particular topic?
I see
if someone is interested in the sesh, #study-sessions-updates has the feature so that you will be pinged if you are interested in the sesh
in addition to that, there is a counter to the attendees
Yes but thatโs after a session has been set up, so a posteriori. My question was about an a priori request and indication of interest, before any session has been set up.
Hopefully sometime
I suppose so. But it will get buried under the avalanche of new messages.
Maybe a leaderboard of some sort where people can propose sessions and also indicate interest.
@verbal nova u take further stats so uh how tf do you find P(W1+W2<0) where W1 and W2 are two different probability distributions
What type of distribution are they?
Can you approximate one?
So that both are the same distribution?
E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y)
Isnt that for if Y is a constant
Show question?
Yeah I think you approximate Binomial to Poisson and then combine using this @little widget
AGHHHHHH
That's the only way I could think of doing it
@young marten looks correct
We dont have that
it's S2
Thats for same distribution no?
yeah
Yeah
so probably his case you had to approximate
if approximation not possible๐
RIP
Just make everything normal lol
Please no
why 2 approximations instead of 1
Poisson works
No he jumped to fstats
don't need S2 for it?
I do
I just donโt care
Like they dont ask like S2 questions
I just know what it is
It is something about lambda and e
i see
Basically itโs just each terms of the expansion of e^ฮป, divided by e^ฮป.
sir can u pls share solution
oke wait
wow that was fast, are you always online or what?
yeah i am
HAHAHA
well not always
but i am 90%-100% on my computer in the whole day
@main topaz
wow, have 0 clue what happened
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how do u expect someone with a pea sized brain to understand this ๐ฅ
...
our further sir after making our exam questions from the topics he didnt teach us
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legit the only marks that i lost in my internals were from the invariant line thingy cause we werent taught that
oh really? wtf
only pure*
stats mech?
cause u taught me โค๏ธ
gonna do em in A2
๐ณ ๐ ๐
composites and weird school policy....
uhhhh the same school doesnt teach us most of the stuff
and have to resort to yt and king pierrot

this
@verbal nova
.
ok
i still havent reached the combinating part yet
aha
in that function chapter
ok
are you sure its <0? i can think of = 0 or more
maybe cause since less than 0
ig for P(W1 + W2 = 0) it would be e^(-ฮป) * q^n
maybe its just 0 lol
idk
Ok look wait
binomial starts from 0
and poisson starts from 0
yeah but
how can we have <0?
that doesn't include 0
maybe it's supposed to be W1-W2?
then it would make sense
cause of
W1<W2
?
idk book just taught this
this is for geometric though no?
yeah they are combing binomial and Poisson
No it isn't
hahahaha
Lexcel
but wait
what would you multiply by
what by what
since P(ฮป) = e^ฮป(t-1) and B(n,p) = (q+pt)^n
I did G(X+Y) = G(X)*G(Y)
the power of t gives like the x
yes
ok so
imma explain a bit more
ok so from here you can see that power of t gives x value
This is the polynomial expansion of e^x
we studied in F Math
ok so e^ฮป(t-1) = (e^ฮปt)(e^-ฮป)
replace x with ฮปt
Wtf am i looking at
L exam board edexcel
you get (e^-ฮป)(1 + ฮปt + (ฮปt)^2/2!.....)
Ikr
Ooh we use convolution theorem for wave optics
it is
Oh wait it is?
ok then what
ok so binomial is ez right
yeah ig
bruh
because its starting from t^0
nvm, got nothing
You can convolve the intensity pattern of a single thin slit with two delta functions to get the intensity of a double slit
Yeah basically
damn
what
this stuff is cool
ok brave now
back to hayz question
that isn't in S2
so how tf are we supposed to do it
clearly lol
0
ok
@little widget 0, take it or leave
they wouldn't have a trick question though right
right
ah this messes up with my head
cause we can speculate on what the question was asking
so probably
W1>W2
or no
fuck even then lol
It was
I rearranged it
Because i thought i might be able to do smthn with that
then W1-W2>0 no?
wdym
I said P(W1 + W2<0) right?
yes
Fuck i forgot my own q
FUCK YOU
with mean you have to subtract the lambda
Then tis the same as what u said before
Add lambda
Not much changed for being able to solve the q na
yeah
If its - subtract
yes brother
ok
I think hayz should be warned
P(Po - Bin < 0)
what do you think brave
kicked
even better
P(Po < Bin)
i didnt do anything rn bruh
but does it make any diff?
lets do this old fashion way
It was a 4 marker
then W-X and whole thing
@little widget maybe just find values of x until Poisson starts becoming larger than binomial
What a pain
to help your pain
funny funnny jose
hayz
can you ask your friends
from school
what was it
W>X or W<X
just pray it wont come lol
you didnt pray enough
And it hit like a fucking train
My pain and suffering
how was your p4
In a few
ok
anyone knows if there's a name for this technique? (without the symbols)
And is your new name some form of code?
Lmao idk I'm just reading some lecture notes given by my senior ๐คฃ
Why don't u type it in Google and see for yourself :)
So enthusiastic
Conduct a study session. Give back.
Aight thankss hahah
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Angry pierrot noises
Do you all math gods recommend James Steward calc 8th edition?
I think that's the textbook my uni is using, idk if I should just read the lecture notes or the textbook
it seems that i like dry things i guess
Alex bot does not like proofs ig
Ahahahahahaha
dQ canโt wait to start uni maths
No it's more like dQ tryna survive
dB majoring in pure maths?
It's just maths for now
Like 1.5 years common curriculum then after that only specialization
Nice. You got your dream course.
Will you be reappearing here periodically to share your wisdom?
If your username will link me to a rick roll, i will die
No wisdom yet haha have to see see first
@vestal swift i hate you
So thatโs what it is
From db to dQ
From friend to enemy ๐ค
You can't trick me mortal, I have already memorized all the divine codes
Itโs rather quiet here. Post an interesting problem @tawdry gull.
but what is interesting?
Something that has an elegant proof and an unexpected result.
ok real analysis then
a basic one
Suppose $f(x)$ satisfies $\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} f(x) = c$ where $c>0$. Prove that there exists $k\in \mathbb{Z}$ such that for all $x>k$, $f(x)>0$.
The ฯerrot
Oh that's easy
go for it
Thatโs a very formal problem ๐
of course it is ๐
Anyone looking to do some complex analysis in the next few days?
Cant do complex anal without real anal+multi var calc ๐
no need real anal
just multivar calc
depending on what u do ofc
Oh fr?
Aighty
mhmm
complex
Time to have some fun
ogeh
After this essay atleast..
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anyone doing a study session on that?
imagine doing a very hard exam and then you go sit it you see that alex is sitting right next to you
bots don't appear in exams :)
online school
Yeah complex anal is harder
Im gonna check the fucking cie syllabus for what u guys do in complex numbers
Went thru fm edexcel
Didnt look intimidating
that sounds so wrong ๐
that sounds so wrong ๐
not nice
be nice to alex
he helps you so much
this is how you payback
.
He probably knows 11th dimensional anal
complex numbers anal
That's good to know
people like me have to work with imaginary anal tho
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Bot knows NSFW ahhhhh hahahaha
When r u going to stop using the joke hahaha
Bots are very sophisticated nowadays :)
๐ U r probably embarrassed rn
:bots don't develop feelings
Please post a nice maths question :)
love how u changed the topic
Trying to stay relevant before mods ask us to move to #chat-lounge :)
Just an excuse HAHAHA u have some special powers here
He's a bot what do you expect
He's good at staying on topic
Can you conduct some study sessions on university maths? You post quite a few questions.
Yes but I'm not so good with the answers๐ญ
I could do one on multivariable Calculus after my exams next week
ฯerrot can give the answers ๐
That would be nice
Can u do it in the middle of the exam?
Like as its being conducted
Please ask the lecturer and let us know
Ikr xD indeed a high intelligent bot
LMAO
AlexV when were you developed
AlexV just evolved in cyberspace. Like evolution from microcellular organisms.
Where can you get good tempura where you are?
Does alexV bot have deez nuts joke functionality?
I have not seen him making any deez nuts jokes
Jus curious
AlexV has some complex ML algorithm
That's why he's on this server
Cause there's an abundance of questions
Yes heโs learning as he goes along. All of you are training him.
AlexV can only make mathematical jokes
Please integrate the following de^1+z dn
Is that some form of derivative?
Where z is an arbitrary constant
๐ U know right
Differentiate
Please suggest
Wdym tempura
De^e+z
What in tempura lah
The food lah
Tempura ice cream
Tempura crysto ๐
Never tried fried ice cream
Sushi z***ai
Itโs good and quite interesting how itโs possible to deep fry ice cream.
Is that good?
As long as it's good thay's enough๐
๐ Did u adapt to this slang thingy edi
Will try it next time I go have sushi
The ice cream has to be deep frozen and the batter quite thick, so it insulated the ice cream from the hot oil.
Im part of ASEAN now crysto
https://youtu.be/Mj26_9lXY5Q @stuck rapids
This is a random meme vid. But it is clear that many would understand it, or not.
Music source:
https://youtu.be/t0a7b_QHA24
Aw man thumbnail spoiled it
Indonesia maths is so good
Singapore nice place
Differential equation to find ships
Welcome to asean
one of your fellow countrymen appeared in #as-math-s1
also yours
Phak yu lmaoo
go say hi
๐คช u should say hi to him/her too
i answered some maths questions
๐ฆพ
๐คจ
Show that $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{H_n}{n(n+1)^2} = \zeta(2)-\zeta(3)$,
where $H_n$ is the n-th harmonic number
The ฯerrot
Sorry i saw a zeta im leaving
shoo
ฯerrot strikes back with a vengeance
but you have zeta in your name
Do i
$\eta\alpha\upsilon\zeta$
AlexV
I'm too stupid for this channel :(
who's the one asking questions about epsilon-delta? :)
The proving is hard
๐ ๐
Asking coz idk ;)
ask ฯerrot for study session
@tawdry gull whats the game you post on your insta
Ahh I see thanks
Gave +1 rep to The_Pierrot#7889
what's dQ's insta?
must be an early user to get that username
mine?
dQ. she said her insta name is Secret.
AlexV got insta? :)