#venting

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kindred stone
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gaming?

mild compass
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Listen to music?

kindred stone
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drawing

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reading

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anything

mild compass
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Do something, that's the thing. Depression hits when you have nothin to do

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Your mind just starts overthinking because you're doing nothing to put it to work

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Maybe clean your room or house

kindred stone
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even rip your notebook(dont actually heh)

mild compass
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πŸ’€

kindred stone
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some people find pleasure innit

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maybe just

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hmm

mild compass
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This is kinda hard tbh

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Do you have family@alpine hatch

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Siblings or parents

kindred stone
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._.

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i mean anyone ur fien to play/talk to

mild compass
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Ouch

kindred stone
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yikes

mild compass
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Sounds dumb but an imaginary friend helps

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A lot

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You don't feel alone + you have someone to talk to

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Even if you're just imagining it all

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It works

kindred stone
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if youre allowed

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get a pet

mild compass
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A dog

kindred stone
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a cat

mild compass
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Or a fish

kindred stone
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what

stuck mango
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I talk to myself all the time in my mind - while some people might think its dumb, it actually helps a lot especially when you don't trust anyone

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What?

kindred stone
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nah not dumb i talk to myself a lot too

kindred stone
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play with your dog

mild compass
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Bro just tell them to fuck off lmao

kindred stone
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^

mild compass
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Express yourself

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In the end, just express your emotions

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Write it all down

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Burn the paper

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Break shit

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Punch the air

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Lie down, plug in some headphones and let your imagination run wild

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We can't help you if you don't want to help yourself

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Only you can fix how you feel

stuck mango
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In this situation having a real trustable friend will help a TON

mild compass
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Hit the gym

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Best advice

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Take it all out in working out

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Get ripped

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But don't think about suicide

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It's not an escape

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In the final couple seconds of killing yourself. Trust me. You'll regret it

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But it will be too late

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No matter how welcoming the embrace of death is

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It is shit

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You'll regret it

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Dont kys

stuck mango
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That's unfortunate

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Guess this channel is your new friend then

mild compass
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Delete it lol

opal prism
mild compass
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And that wasn't meant for you

opal prism
mild compass
opal prism
mild compass
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It's meant for someone else

opal prism
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Can you not send images here btw

mild compass
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No

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Also i didn't send images here wdym

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😐

opal prism
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How come?

opal prism
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I meant in general

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You can’t send images here

mild compass
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This is for venting, not sending pictures

opal prism
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Right

mild compass
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For that

eager ore
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@alpine hatch what country do you live in

river wadi
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this is the best advice I've read in a while

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@alpine hatch I'm sorry you're going through that bro but suicide is the worst option. If you feel unlucky and that your life is shit, it will get better. Obviously, you don't feel that now but you won't know what good could happen if you don't hold on.

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and something that I believe in is that everyone suffers and prospers at different points in their life

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so if you feel like you're struggling now

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things will get better soon

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and if someone is doing incredibly well in life rn

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they may not always be that way

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listen to some music man it can really save lives

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good music

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and

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this channel is always open if you need friends

alpine hatch
eager ore
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Hey, I hope you feel better with everyone helping you out. People are always here to help, and we will do our best but we’re not professionals. If you can please seek professional help. This is a suicide helpline if it gets really bad.

+60 3 7627 2929

stuck mango
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There is a reason why there are no image and embed perms in this channel

mild compass
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Ken is also a reason πŸ’€

stuck mango
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Yes

mild compass
stuck mango
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This is getting offtopic

north karma
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Ur getting offtopic

mild compass
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You're off topic

summer flicker
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it's going to be the same crap for a while man. Things, thoughts and just life in general take a while to change for the better

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and the process is also very painful, like extreeeeeeemely painful

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i felt suicidal at one point as well and just telling it to someone close to you can help

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never had to get professional help but i can assume it's probably the best option

summer flicker
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yeah there is no one size fits all solution in mental health

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so go seek professional help

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yeah ive heard school counselors are dog shit at this

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them being judgemental is also something ive heard a lot

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so you're better off with suicide helplines and actual therapy

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fair enough

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therapy IS expensive

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give the helpline a shot anyways

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and I don't know if your place jas public cheap/free healthcare

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but general practitioners/family physicians are also trained (although relatively limitedly when compared to their specialised counterparts) in mental health

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you can also always ask for help from your family

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there's a lot of options

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it isnt in mine either

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but i was lucky that my mom understood

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my father said the same thing too XD

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but hey don't give up

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the universe isn't telling you that you don't deserve happiness

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it's your brain that's doing that

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because you do deserve happiness, everyone does

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it is worth it

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that's what i learned

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despite that horrible period i had to go through and how it wouldn't end

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i am truly happy right now

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so yeah no matter what you believe rn, life IS worth living and you can be happy

rigid cloud
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physics su

summer flicker
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but i legit have no idea how to explain it any way else

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ayyyyyyyyy

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study related depression?

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that's exactly what i went through XD

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that i HAVE to succeed

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yeah i mean it has to be to get this bad doesn't it XD

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yeah everyone screws up

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in fact it's actually normal to screw up more times than succeeding

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i am 99% sure that's not actually true

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but cognitive bias is a thing

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a pretty strong thing lol

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like what?

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im dog shit at all of these

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and Im 18 rn

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take that as you will

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i cant drive for shit, haven't gotten my license yet despite having a learner's permit for like a year now

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cooking, i just use frozen foods, so basically can't do it at all

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sports

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I've always been bad

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cooking, i just use frozen foods, so basically can't do it at all

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and it actually hurts when i enjoy a sport like actually enjoy it

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but i never get good at it

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in badminton i know the basics

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and i play with people who don't even know the basic rules

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and every time they catch up and get better at it than me

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every time

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but ive learned not to let that dictate my self worth

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lol same

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for me it's more of laziness XD

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and lastly music

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I can't play a single instrument

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tried singing

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cant do it

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so yeah

alpine hatch
summer flicker
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I don't think you're worse off than anyone else

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you're normal XD

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yeah comparing yourself to others would do this to you

rigid cloud
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gosh i have this physics test and im sure im gonna fail it its hard asf

summer flicker
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it really will

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they're not better than you in everything there are things you're better at than them and you don't know them

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you'll probably never know them

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yeah XD

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there's also a probability that you're an unlucky fuck that happens to know competent people more than the average normal ones

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so there are soooooo many caveats

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for you to actually legitimately say you're worse than normal people

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cuz you're not

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my god

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i also have a similar experience

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EXACTLY

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THE SAME

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FUCKING THING

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HOLY SHIT

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are you anxious over an exam?

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rn?

alpine hatch
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Nah just got my a levels results

summer flicker
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cuz for me it got really bad when my cies were comingup

alpine hatch
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But yeah also anxiety of not knowing what to study

summer flicker
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ahhh

alpine hatch
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The degree choices here are so little

summer flicker
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what do you enjoy?

alpine hatch
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Yeah two totally different things with seemingly no correlation

summer flicker
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also no I'm 100% sure you're just telling this to yourself

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cuz low self esteem kinda does you like this

alpine hatch
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People here don't appreciate art so definitely not a career choice

summer flicker
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art can be learned on your own

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you can do it on the side

alpine hatch
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Can't really do much with a maths degree other than becoming a maths tutor

summer flicker
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do you like physics?

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social skills can be learned

alpine hatch
summer flicker
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and that's not the only option

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you can become a data scientist

alpine hatch
summer flicker
alpine hatch
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Literally I survived further stats by pure memorizing the steps

summer flicker
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of course your brain needs a reason to focus on the shitty negative things and ignore every possible positive thing when on low self esteem

summer flicker
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nah

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people want to help you

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at least

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i and the other people on the server want to help you

mild compass
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If you have no desire to help yourself then literally no one else can. You gotta do it yourself

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We can just be a moral support

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For you

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Motivation and shi

summer flicker
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yeah sadly no matter what you do

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who you talk to

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only you can help yourself at the end of the day

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no

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that's a massive jump XD

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cuz you do need help i can see

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and other people can help you out but the change has to come from you

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like riding a bicycle, people can tell you tips hold it when it falls

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people do that

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they kinda shit at times

mild compass
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Trust me lmao, you're gonna regret so hard in the final 1-2 seconds of commiting suicide

summer flicker
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but that doesn't mean you don't deserve to be helped

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or that you're hated

mild compass
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Suicide is literally L

summer flicker
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XD

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yeah that's how they were shit to you

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if someone hates you from day 1 you're not gonna be this fucked up byt the end of it

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now this is where i assume a mental health expert would be far more useful

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I've been watching videos by the healthy gamer in which a psychiatrist indian guy helps people out

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and the only thing ive learned from it is how good our minds are at lying to us

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the weird thing is there's no way to dispute it cuz well you use facts and memories and experiences to form the extremely negative thoughts

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but it doesn't give the complete picture

mild compass
summer flicker
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someone you trust left you and i assume they either told you that it was your negativity or you just assumed

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even then neither of the situations truly show that you're not deserving of happiness but your brain is gonna still believe it

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yeah that'll fuck you up

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no you don't wtf

mild compass
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You deserve to learn from your mistakes and change

summer flicker
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ignore this one

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that's a stupid thing to say

mild compass
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I just realized that

summer flicker
mild compass
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And i learnt from it

summer flicker
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and this one about this person you really cared about seems like a big one

mild compass
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Or not because it's okay to repeat mistakes, sometimes we don't get it the first time

summer flicker
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and it would really fuck your self esteem

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so no nothings wring with

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you

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you don't deserve less

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it's your brain telling you this

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yep

mild compass
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And if people are negative to you. Remember, it doesn't matter. Don't let their negativity / insults get to your head.

summer flicker
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so it's circumstances

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temporary circumstances that are fucking you right now

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it WILL get better

mild compass
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Ignore it, focus on positivity instead

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You are alive in such an exciting century

summer flicker
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so you mean your depression? or is it some other negativity

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yep

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oh

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depression does take a toll

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and it's not only limited to just you

mild compass
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Good times always come, and negative situations aren't 100% negative. There's also positivity

summer flicker
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but a real friend, family wouldn't leave you but I'm not an expert on that

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i do remember my family getting frustrated at times with me when i went through something like this

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did you always do that or did that start with the whole depression thing?

summer flicker
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but i doubt you'll be able to see that with your state of mind

mild compass
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You need to see that you're not a bad person my guy. If you were, we wouldn't be trying to help you

summer flicker
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yeah luckily i went through something similar beforehand

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o don't know how i broke out of yhe cycle of thinking im useless constantly

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so i wish i could help you out there

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nah so far you're dank

mild compass
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Unless you've raped someone, killed someone you're not a bad person

summer flicker
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^^^^

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you might have negative aspects about yourself

mild compass
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We all do

summer flicker
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and at the moment are probably concentrating more on those

mild compass
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That's exactly what a bad person is though

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And you're not one

summer flicker
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^^^^

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a while ago

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you said

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that you're afraid of driving cuz you might hit someone

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that's not something a bad person would say

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quite the contrary actually

mild compass
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You're a caring person

summer flicker
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everyone is shit

mild compass
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^

summer flicker
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at times

mild compass
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We all are assholes sometimes

summer flicker
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^^^^^

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i don't know you as a person

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but just like you thought you were worse/ more incompetent than the normal person

mild compass
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You've been on the server for how long?

summer flicker
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i feel you're wrong here as well

mild compass
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Bro reminds me of my mom tbh

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She too is negative Abt herself

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Nvm that lmao it was random

summer flicker
mild compass
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Woah

summer flicker
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i don't know if you're aware

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but shitty people don't know that they're shitty people XD

mild compass
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Kpop stans

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πŸ₯Ά

summer flicker
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considering that you're constantly telling yourself that you're a shitty person

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it's most likely a bias

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and a lie/half truth

mild compass
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Also whatever you repeat to yourself about yourself will eventually become a core concept in your mind even if its not true

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You gotta repeat positivity instead

summer flicker
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^^^

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you'll call yourself shitty

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you'll probably be agitated most of the time due to your current situation

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and you'll probably lash out more

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make bad decisions

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basically a self fulfilling prophecy

summer flicker
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but i remember listing everything im proud of/happy with about myself helped

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but that worked later cuz during the whole thing I couldn't list anything

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yeah that's probably an asian thing

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just list everything you improved

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that still probably wont help idk

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you should use that a lot more

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i can't reach my unnecessarily high expectations

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'its alright who gives a shit'

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XD

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that sounds accurate

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yeah

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yep

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so basically your entire self esteem id based on your studies and because you want to compensate for not having any other thing that you think your good at you put much hugher expectations on the studies part

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and because you can't reach that you feel terrible about yourself and, for some reason, think you're worss off than an average person and the negativity causes someone important to you to nope the fuck out which just tanks your self esteem even further

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damn

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no i genuinely dont lol

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they have something to do with the self esteem part though

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that's probably the thing that tipped the scale idk

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XD

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basically what i feel is that you're right to feel absolutely shit at the moment

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but it's not ok to feel shit about yourself

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so much so that you think your life is worthless

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understandable lol

mild compass
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I'm very cool

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Women love me

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Women love me

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That's positivity

summer flicker
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damn

mild compass
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I also love women

summer flicker
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i guess i have no positivity then

mild compass
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I don't see myself being gay

summer flicker
mild compass
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I love you @summer flicker

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From the bottom of my heart

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You're awesome, and i love you @summer flicker

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I'd kiss you if i could rn

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No homo

summer flicker
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thus no positivity

mild compass
summer flicker
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ye

mild compass
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There's just 1 woman that likes me

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Therefore

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Women like me

summer flicker
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DAMNNNN

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πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

mild compass
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😎 😎 😎 😎 πŸ˜”

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I'm mentally exhausted

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I have problems

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I'm afraid of being alone

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I'm afraid of pushing away people i care about

summer flicker
mild compass
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😏 😏 😏

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You see ladies and gentlemen that is how you rant

wintry rampart
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i honestly hate my damn life

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i wanna get out

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of this cruel world

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everyone's got a happy family who supports them

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while i'm living as a problem child

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my mom accuses me of letting her sleep at 1 am

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my idiot brother's too irresponsible for me to get embarrassed if i go babysit him

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god, how i hate them.

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this is why i'm unlucky

river wadi
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There are probably many ppl with similar problems

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try to find someone who can relate to you and then talk to them about it

rough holly
# wintry rampart while i'm living as a problem child

hey i know it may sometimes feel like everyone else is happier but you have no idea what goes behind closed doors and how much of a face they put in front of others. Ik it may sometimes suck when you feel likes you’re the problem child, and trust me i know what you mean, but all you gotta do is ignore everything mean thing they say to you. That’s honestly the best thing to do, just don’t let it get too you as they just ruins your self esteem, you gotta build it up strong and prove ur whole family wrong!

wintry rampart
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yup.

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these words are just small meaningless things

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that they blurt out

rough holly
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yes exactly, just focus on yourself and honestly that would be that absolute best thing uou can do

wintry rampart
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yup

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to be honest, the only way for me to live life happily, even if my family's shenanigans makes me want to kill myself (for sure, i won't do that) is to do what i like to do

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and to ignore their criticisms and stupidity

wintry rampart
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but instead think that my mother makes mountains out of molehills

mild compass
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πŸ™‚

wintry rampart
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cause i always knew that she's like that occasionally.

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and with my brother, i'm still thinking of the right solution, on whether i should just tolerate him and let him be the person he wants to be, whether it'd be good for society or not, when he's not being irritating, or if i should inform his therapists about his shenanigans.

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especially towards pretending to gossip, by whispering to my mom's ears.

mild compass
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😢

rough holly
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god i swear some younger brothers just need to chill tf out, mine is the fav cause he's the cutest ❀️ according to her. legit my bro kicked me in the face cause i said to go to bed, my mother go angry at me like bro

wintry rampart
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shit...

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i hate it when parents play nepotism.

rough holly
rough holly
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and then they look at you and say loudly don't tell her

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im like shut up

mild compass
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This is where i recommend stoicism

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πŸ‘†

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πŸ’ͺ 😎

wintry rampart
rough holly
mild compass
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Google it

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It's beautiful

wintry rampart
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if he gets in trouble, i won't be involved at all if that's the case

rough holly
wintry rampart
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yup.

rough holly
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It is a philosophy of life that maximizes positive emotions, reduces negative emotions and helps individuals to hone their virtues of character

mild compass
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Yes

rough holly
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quite hard when u got no positive emotions and too many negative :)

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danggg

wintry rampart
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even if i frown, i'm still happy.

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cause i can't believe that i am actually doing hard work in genshin, by grinding primogems everyday

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and maybe increasing ar too

rough holly
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put on a happy face for ur fam, and just ignore them and chill

wintry rampart
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yep

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i'll do my best

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although i'd have to repeat ranting about pessimism again...

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in order to release them all

olive wadi
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and also keep playing any video game that u enjoy playing as it helps a lot with dealing with ur irl problems since u get to relax and entertain urself for a part of the day , always remember to try to do stuff u enjoy

wintry rampart
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thanks, amigo.

olive wadi
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no problemo

olive wadi
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U are wrong

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just bec ppl dont appreciate or acknowledge ur worth frequently doesnt mean u dont bring anything to anyone's life

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you should bring something to ur OWN life first and foremost , then u focus on making those around u happy

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u should figure out how to be happy with urself before trying to be happy with others

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if u didnt have any worth u wouldnt of been born

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Appreciate everything u do for urself and others and support urself , you only get one ride in this life , its like a rollercoaster , it will have many ups the same way it has many downs , gotta learn to live in the moment and not get stuck on the downs , learn to get up

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some of us get unlucky with having bad parents , or none at all , thats a terrible and untrue thing to say but if she truly didnt want u abortion is a thing right , in any case ur given a chance in life and its in your own best interesting to try to use it to maximum potential

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really at the end we will all die so why not to enjoy life whilst u can rather than living in a misery

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bec its entirely on ur hands to make it better , you can make everything better

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i had a bad childhood and i lost so many ppl and things i held dear

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but i kept going , now im in a position i couldnt even dream of few years ago

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inner strength is giving urself hope needed to keep pushing in dark times

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theres no point in existence if u dont believe in having a better life

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gotta work for it

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that means he never figured it out just kept failling never making a lesson out of it

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theres a difference between failing and learning than just failing

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Thats entirely up to u , know that i was abandoned and betrayed many times but i still pulled thru in hopes of better days

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Know that its possible

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i deal with shit everyday

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but i focus on them and deal with them then enjoy joyful things

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thats how life works

wintry rampart
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fucking genshin

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didn't mention that geo is needed

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for that stupid "escape the electro bubbles" thing

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annd instead recommended cryo

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and now my boomer mother's criticizing me

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for shifting

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i want to attack her

olive wadi
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you need to find things to do that you enjoy

wintry rampart
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she's trying to get me to stay in my shit information systems defree

olive wadi
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could be from games to some hobby idk

wintry rampart
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and she literally compares me with others

olive wadi
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do u use glasses

olive wadi
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hear from one ear , remove from the other

wintry rampart
olive wadi
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u cant do anything but ignore

wintry rampart
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you'll graduate later

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NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ON HOW LONG YOU SPENT COLLEGE

olive wadi
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i think its pointless to be reasonable with this person

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dude success is not about graduating fast

wintry rampart
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she tried to gaslight me

olive wadi
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its about how happy u are with ur life

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lmao

wintry rampart
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by telling me "you should have been grateful"

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that i allowed you to shift

olive wadi
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wym by shift

wintry rampart
olive wadi
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wow

wintry rampart
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just cause she did not shift does not mean i have to follow her path

olive wadi
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she allowed u damn

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big stuff

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u should follow the path u want to follow

wintry rampart
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i was intimidated by her yelling at me

olive wadi
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not anyone elses

wintry rampart
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which is why i tried to reason with her

rough holly
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honestly, I used to be the exact same as you and the only reason that hasn't happened yet is cause its haram in my religion and the main thing that saved me was finding a hobby I really really enjoyed ( my case listening to music), it seems like in your case that drawing sounds like ur hobby and you could always focus on that until you feel like you can get back into your studies again. basically find things you can feel happiness in and then you'll feel alive again , the only person that can give you proper happiness is yourself so at this point ignore all the shit things ur mum said cause she's just taking out her anger about smth else on you so its heaps better to ignore it the best you can and try not to take it to heart. Parents say a lot of things that they don't really mean, which is why you should try to ignore it and focus on yourself

olive wadi
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listen mate the easiest way is to just agree with them "yees yes okay u are right" and move on

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theres no point in tryna be reasonable

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and defend ur point

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no matter how rigth u are

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they are stubborn to death

wintry rampart
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she thinks that college is a race

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graduate early, work more successfully

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or that her mother did not let her shift

wintry rampart
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this is why i have a twisted view of the world

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thanks to the emotional abuse my mother fed me

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in my teenage years

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when i get out of her hell, i'll feel thankful that i would never hear her silly threats anymore

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but problem is, it will haunt me in any way necessary

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and shove me in jail

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cause i hate the fucking world cause my mom "unintentionally" made me into a troubled individual

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she says that she gaslights me cause "it's for your own good, and you need to learn a lesson"

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when in reality, she's just an overly stressed 50 year old divorced mother

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boomer parents...

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how dumb are they

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how they lack the understanding of their kids' mental health

stuck mango
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Get living on your own then

wintry rampart
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especially the chink parents

wintry rampart
#

it'll be harder to balance work and college

stuck mango
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True

wintry rampart
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so i have no choice but to live with her

stuck mango
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If you have any other relatives go live with them

wintry rampart
#

all i want off my head is her hurtful words

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and to understand her even further

rough holly
# rough holly honestly, I used to be the exact same as you and the only reason that hasn't hap...

if it helps a lot, i sat down with my mother and told her that i lost like 15kg in the last 3 weeks and how i didn't wanna be on this planet anymore due to stress/anxiety of school and everything and she said you're being stupid and everyone feels like they want to die. asked to go talk to someone and she said you can talk to me, and we were speaking about the eating thingy and she legit said "Just fucking eat! it's not that hard" and that was the day i said i would never talk to her about anything about me again and actually i am way better at this point not talking to her and ignoring those words

wintry rampart
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so that i won't take her threats too seriously

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for sure, i'm committed to shift

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and learn the business side

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idc if she mentions that i'm best at the abyss of jobs, the back-end

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i can be at least try to gain a job on the mid-end or front-end of business

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i may be calm and silent, but in reality, i am a twisted person who needs friends

olive wadi
#

time to make some mate

wintry rampart
#

so that he can talk everything out

olive wadi
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join servers or irl groups that have ur interests

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and meet ppl

wintry rampart
#

and realize it ibefore it gets too late

wintry rampart
#

as not only do i have social anxiety, but my mother would tell me that i sulk too much

olive wadi
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listen its only ur opinion that matters at the end

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if u take in anyones negative comments

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it will only drag u down

wintry rampart
#

i honestly feel that i'm starting to resist these negative thoughts as i talk to you guys

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as i know that i can do better

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and show her that i can succeed in the field of business

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with good analytical skills

olive wadi
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exactly

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ex a fucking lutely

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u are ur own master and u do what u think is right and makes u happy

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fuck others

wintry rampart
#

i know

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i've been telling myself that i am the one who decides my path

olive wadi
#

u are

wintry rampart
#

and not my mother

olive wadi
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just need the strength to tell others to shut up

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or ignore them

wintry rampart
#

she's prolly just worried about the pitfalls that i can experience

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but tbh, i'm willing to challenge these pitfalls

olive wadi
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some ppl show their worries in wrong ways yeah

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or

wintry rampart
#

to prove her wrong

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cause expectations can be proven wrong

olive wadi
#

^

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my initial advice yea

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its the easiest way out

rough holly
#

first of all, never be sorry for ranting/venting. if you keep it bottled up, it just makes it insanely worse so i'm proud of you that you were able to talk about it! :). Next it not your job to support your family if your dad is unemployed, its his job to find a job or do the best thing he can do for your fam, the money you make is yours and not your family. you didn't decide to be born, it was your parents so in a sense you don't technically owe them anything like that. Even if they don't wanna pay for your education, you can always try to get a scholarship ( ik its sometimes quite hard to get one), it doesn't hurt anyone if you just apply for one. Just ignore what ur parents are saying cause 0% of it is your fault. Trust me ( a random person on discord), it will get better if you focus on yourself :) (ps feel free to dm if you want)

olive wadi
#

yoki's great advice^^ + never give up on life man , it rlly makes me sad seeing how disgusting and terrible ppl enjoy ruining others life's when people like you who have some struggles think of just giving up when u have so much to prove and achieve for yourself , pls dont give up

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i'd hate to see that

rough holly
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also b4 i forget, your pfp is adorable istg

olive wadi
olive wadi
wintry rampart
#

20

olive wadi
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brother good parents will support u till their last penny and breath of air

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do not feel bad about it

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instead try to make urself and dad proud

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by achieving the success u want

wintry rampart
#

11

olive wadi
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that way every single hardship is worth it

wintry rampart
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cause he gets all the attention

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and not me

olive wadi
#

oh wait

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did she call perry pfp cute

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oh god

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mission abort

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abort

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Shame 100

alpine hatch
stuck mango
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Idk if this will help but you could start a fundraiser online for your education and I am sure you will be able to get some money

olive wadi
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make most of that

stuck mango
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Ah that's good

olive wadi
#

u can always study locally then move overseas with ur own means

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keep looking and exploring

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u eventually will find it

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it takes time

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i still havent found mine lol

stuck mango
#

Same

rough holly
#

never ever think that if you kill yourself every single one of your problems will go away. I know it may not even seem like it, but i'm 100% sure that they would be heartbroken. i also used to think that sometimes i still do, but just imagine the pain of losing your own child, i personally would be heartbroken. Just never think like that, even if you don't wanna keep in contact with them after you pay them back the money for ur education, if its better for you mentally then anything is better than putting yourself down mentally due to their awful comments to you. Best advice i was ever given, never bottle it up, never show your parents that their comments get too you and focus on yourself

stuck mango
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Try for a scholarship

rough holly
olive wadi
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im too embarrassed

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got used to being complimented by someone

rough holly
olive wadi
#

TRUE

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i wanna go back few years and tell myself all advice i give to others

rough holly
olive wadi
rough holly
olive wadi
rough holly
olive wadi
#

Kekw ikr

rough holly
olive wadi
stuck mango
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No parents will hate their child, trust me if you suicide they won't be able to survive like at all

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Thanks

olive wadi
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no man no parent has moved on from losing their child

stuck mango
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Trust me they won't they will always remember you

olive wadi
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believe me i seen a lot of examples

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a life time of pain and regrets will follow them

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an existence full of misery really

stuck mango
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I have seen parents loosing their children and they were never fine again EVER

rough holly
stuck mango
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Just see any CEOs story I am sure you will be inspired some of them have very similar stories to yours

olive wadi
rough holly
#

never ever think like this no matter how it seems. Even if you do feel like a burden, you're not! simple as that. you already seem like an amazing person who cares a lot about others, but rn you need to forget others and focus on yourself! That may by drawing, listening to music, finding a new hobby that you really really enjoy, reading there are legit hundred of options. Focus on yourself and you'll honestly feel heaps and heaps better

rough holly
olive wadi
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guys i think joining this adventure time emotes server is the best decision i made recently

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working wonders

stuck mango
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Nice but when your nitro expires rip

olive wadi
#

still going strong

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if it doesnt run out today i think i glitched my way to another month

stuck mango
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Yeah

rough holly
olive wadi
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i sure hope so!!

stuck mango
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True classic og cartoons

olive wadi
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yeah not whatever circus Cartoon network is running now

stuck mango
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Good old memories

rough holly
olive wadi
#

it went downhill from there

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Lmao ikr

stuck mango
#

Is there positive venting too? I always see negative venting

olive wadi
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whats positive venting

stuck mango
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That's what I am asking lmao

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Just a thought

olive wadi
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everyone thinks im flexing whenever i tell them about how great of a time im having

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no one is genuinely happy that im happy lol

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so i dont do "positive venting"

stuck mango
#

True

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It was just a thought that popped up

olive wadi
#

that person wasnt a true friend for you then bec true friends stay in ur darkest hours to ur most brightest days

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u have surrounded urself with wrong ppl my friend

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life is much better than u think

stuck mango
#

THIS

olive wadi
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toxic in what way

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u swear and cuss all the time?

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dude thats fine many ppl can lash out

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its not abnormal behavior

stuck mango
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A true friend doesn't exist

olive wadi
#

rare af

stuck mango
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VERY VERY RARE

olive wadi
#

idk dude

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things u are saying arent enough to

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remove someone from ur life

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infact its the opposite

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ken i have friends who have not betrayed me once or had done anything bad in 18 years of knowing them

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so shut it

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my brothers from another mother

stuck mango
#

at least for me I have seen ppl forget others who they were very close to

olive wadi
#

then what

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no they are true good friends

stuck mango
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Define True friend ken

olive wadi
#

jamal

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?

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no man its not right to leave ppl who need help or are hurt like that

stuck mango
#

The definition of "friend" is different for every single person fr

olive wadi
#

loving someone needs bravery and strength , u cant love and care for someone without never being hurt thats just silly thinking

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true

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what ken said is right

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but thats not the only criteria

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one can sacrifice their happiness to get something from u thats to their benefit

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u need to do many things to convince me that ur a true friend

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yes

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someone whos been there for u

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i have many great friends as well

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but i also have few true friends

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friends i call brother

stuck mango
#

For some ppl friends might be someone who they have fun with, for others it might be someone who supported them or someone they can trust it varies from person to person

olive wadi
#

better than own family

stuck mango
olive wadi
#

my own blood wouldnt

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but a few true friends i call brothers will and have done

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especially that 1 guy

stuck mango
#

Damn these stories make me sad πŸ˜”

olive wadi
#

plus in my culture family is sacred its way way more special of a bond here

olive wadi
stuck mango
olive wadi
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i only got lucky to have one from the start

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cus as i said in my culture and hometown its sacred

stuck mango
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@olive wadi your life sounds very positive

olive wadi
#

it is brother

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but

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pls no one think i was born into it

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i grinded my ass off for these things

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i just had few good things i clung on to continue to reach these days

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ppl make mistakes for sure

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but

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its always good to keep a distance

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just in case

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not every friend must know evreything about u or be super duper close yk

stuck mango
#

Yeah

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Always be ready for surprises

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No one can send gifs here

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Yea

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No gifs and images

olive wadi
#

thats why my gif from earlier failed ken boy

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thought u knew

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guy lost his rights for so long he forgot abt each channels rules

stuck mango
#

Lol

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#venting is the best channel of the server tbh

olive wadi
#

any channel with yall is the best

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but yes vent is up there

stuck mango
#

πŸ‘

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Removing perms in here was honestly the best decision for this channel

mild compass
#

Y'all ever had such a good friend and y'all just vibed so well

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Until they just randomly dump you one day

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And after months you find em and ask em tf is up and they're just insensitive

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Craaazy

summer flicker
#

just tell them what they meant to you

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no need to start it again

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get it off your chest

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also you ARE a burden to everyone close to you, everyone is, especially at this age. That's how we survive

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we rely on each other

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every child is a burden to their parents but despite that our parents still do everything in their ability to help you out

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it's a normal thing

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you're normal

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then what difference would a sentence or two more make

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just get it off your chest

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@alpine hatch what majors were you interested in that don't happen to be in your country?

alpine hatch
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Or like data science and AI

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But I'm still not sure yet

summer flicker
#

there's AI in my shithole third world of a country

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im sure there must be unis offering that

cosmic ginkgo
#

consider doing side courses or a specialisation in AI after a general CS degree, that way if you end up finding other paths in CS that are interesting you can pursue those

summer flicker
#

^^^

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that's also an option

cosmic ginkgo
#

there are lots of things you find in uni tbh, i now like certain topics more than the ones i thought i'd like going in

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sorry i lost my english but i hope the idea comes across

alpine hatch
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Idk tho I'm not really keen on coding

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I like analyzing data but I don't like stats in general

summer flicker
#

what hobbies do you have/used to have

alpine hatch
#

I like mechanics but my hands on skills are too shitty to go into engineering

summer flicker
#

everything has something you won't like

alpine hatch
cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

the trick is to find an idea or something that you like so much that everything else is worth slogging through

cosmic ginkgo
#

i'd say focus on your strengths and pick from there

summer flicker
#

art

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math

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and mechanics

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in one

alpine hatch
cosmic ginkgo
#

its also quite a professional accredited degree/ career path

alpine hatch
#

Plus I'll need a portfolio for admissions which sucks too

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

^^^

#

shadow an architect

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if you can

cosmic ginkgo
#

or just look at the uni modules on the website, thatll give you an idea of all the different aspects that are covered

summer flicker
#

also being nit that good at hands on stuff

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isn't really a downside

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because

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

the whole point of engineering unis is to teach you that part

cosmic ginkgo
#

that too

summer flicker
#

just don't be like me

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and do something that you at least somewhat like

alpine hatch
#

And idk what's material science either

summer flicker
#

there is one uni in my country that does offer it

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

despite being a third world shithole

summer flicker
#

aeronautical engineering should be easier to find

alpine hatch
cosmic ginkgo
cosmic ginkgo
#

and intelligence

summer flicker
#

^^^

cosmic ginkgo
#

the problem my friend is facing whos doing aerospace is that all the internships are govt related and since he isnt a national he cant get security clearance for it, but if youre studying in your own country you wont have that problem

summer flicker
#

man i wish i was good at math

alpine hatch
#

Idk but I'm kinda more inclined towards math tutor and ui ux design that sort of stuff

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But my social skills are shit

north karma
#

Jus takes a ton of time

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And practice

summer flicker
#

too late now

#

im enrolled in a medschool

alpine hatch
#

And ui ux is either under CS degree or graphic design which really isn't what I'm fond of either

summer flicker
cosmic ginkgo
cosmic ginkgo
north karma
summer flicker
#

yeah

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the thing is i wanted to do astrophysics

north karma
#

3blue1brown and numberphile should pique an interest

summer flicker
#

it's what im most interested in

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but i hate math

north karma
#

Oh?

alpine hatch
summer flicker
#

and physics in my a levels was absolutely depressing to do

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that's what led me to suicidal thoughts at the time

north karma
#

A2 physics is fun tho no?

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AS was depressing i agree

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
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cuz that was supposed to be the one thing i liked

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and i was bad at it

summer flicker
north karma
#

Youre not alone

cosmic ginkgo
north karma
#

I always loved media to some extent

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But god fuck the paper work

alpine hatch
north karma
#

I disliked it and i wasnt as good at bsing as other people

summer flicker
#

i think the whole pandemic thing might be the reason though

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cuz my class was so behind

north karma
#

Ahh

real junco
cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

that we finished the syllabus a week before exams

north karma
summer flicker
#

and there was so much work load cuz i didn't attend classes

north karma
#

We can have our own opinions at this point lmao

summer flicker
#

so it was just depressing

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and that's what im so confused about

real junco
#

bruh I still feel like we just started

summer flicker
#

did i learn that i actually hate physics/math

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or was it just situational thing

real junco
#

since more than half of the syllabus is left in all subjects PepeHands

north karma
#

U could mess around with it in ur free time

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To learn again

summer flicker
#

im scared of going for physics and then being similarly depressed in uni

north karma
#

Bec exam maths made me dislike maths for a while too

alpine hatch
north karma
#

Its god awful following ms style answers

summer flicker
#

but then I don't like medicine that much

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i do love some small parts of it

north karma
cosmic ginkgo
north karma
#

Start there

summer flicker
#

but at least i enjoyed bio and chem

cosmic ginkgo
north karma
#

MATHS AT UNI IS ACTUALLY COOL

cosmic ginkgo
#

and you can try to find remote/ online internships

alpine hatch
cosmic ginkgo
alpine hatch
#

Coz I took further maths and I'm not sure if I wanna do a maths degree

real junco
summer flicker
#

also the career opportunities are also shit for astrophysics

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over here

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my father is a nuclear physicist

real junco
cosmic ginkgo
north karma
#

Does ur father have fun?

real junco
cosmic ginkgo
north karma
#

Oh

summer flicker
alpine hatch
summer flicker
#

he had to get into the best uni in pak

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then do his PhD in the best uni in china

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to get a job

cosmic ginkgo
alpine hatch
summer flicker
#

im not that good

real junco
#

damn

summer flicker
real junco
#

does he like his job

north karma
summer flicker
#

he does particle physics research

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

he doesn't work at a place where security is all that important

cosmic ginkgo
alpine hatch
cosmic ginkgo
alpine hatch
#

I don't go and read other textbooks

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But I did self study further maths months before taking it

summer flicker
#

man my father has my dream job

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

a scientist in a physics lab

cosmic ginkgo
#

veritasium / numberphile videos are a fun place to start

alpine hatch
summer flicker
#

and he actively tells me not to go for it

alpine hatch
#

But I'm also afraid that I'll get burnt out from handling too much maths

cosmic ginkgo
summer flicker
#

even in medicine my intention is to ditch normal medicine for research

cosmic ginkgo
cosmic ginkgo
north karma
#

Ive always thought of goin professor when i got old

real junco
#

I just want a normal job like my dad 😩

cosmic ginkgo
alpine hatch
north karma
#

Makes sense

real junco
#

but he did electrical engineering PepeHands

cosmic ginkgo
#

i genuinely dont think i have the patience to get into full academia anymore

alpine hatch
#

And I do know that the 2020 syllabus is kinda toned down

cosmic ginkgo
#

that'd need me to not doubt myself every week

alpine hatch
#

Except further mechanics

cosmic ginkgo
#

hmm have you tried math olympiads?

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or just doing the questions at home

alpine hatch
#

Didn't have the opportunity to take part in competitions though

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Wasn't good enough

cosmic ginkgo
#

you could always try solving a question or two when youre free at home

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most big ones publicise past questions somewhere

alpine hatch
#

Someone recommended me one but another person told me it's about discrete maths and abstract algebra which really isn't relevant to the fields I'm opting for

cosmic ginkgo
#

or pugs

mild compass
rough holly
#

the problem with society is that that will always say their faking it for attention and don’t give them the attention etc, but when someone actually does kill the self, they are like why didn’t someone get them the help they needed, if only we saw the signs.

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Society is just plain stupid, the majority of people only care about themselves, and they always have an interior motive for them to gain no matter how it hurts you. Which is why the best thing to actually do is too speak about your problems maybe to a therapist, a friends, even a teacher is pretty good. No matter what anyone thinks, there are many people who would miss you if you died. I used to think that my happiness depended on someone, found out they had a different motive so after causing me pain for a good year i deceived enough was enough and blocked them everywhere i could think of and never spoke to them again, the point being you should depend on no one for your happiness , that happiness should come from you from anything tbh such as drawing

stuck mango
#

So true

river wadi
#

i had a similar thing happen to me. This dude who was my best friend completely stopped talking to me a long time ago and soon he had another best friend and I felt terrible for at least six months but he was able to get over it so fast. Now though I feel so much better and I don't even bother about him anymore and even though I blamed myself initially I realized that it really wasn't my fault alone. Everyone involved in a situation is at fault not just one person so don't feel bad about yourself and try making other friends :))

olive wadi
#

I never had any ego or self esteem or anything like that and i dated 6-7 ppl before and each time it i dumped them or got dumped it crushed me bec i got cheated on or just outright betrayed but yet i picked up the pieces and im still stronger than ever pepeShrug defeats are temporary

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Ur body and life is only ugly when u urself believe that bec no one other than urself can rlly judge that abt u

#

and honestly speaking a perfect life with no problems is impossible and boring anyway

#

Ooof yeah the difference is definitely there im sorry

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but what can u do yk its life

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u dont pick ur parents

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which country do u live in?

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hmmm

#

isnt malaysia fine place to study in?

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especially place like singapore

#

Okay look idk much about malaysia but ik ppl who are in similar position to u who studied first locally and found jobs , saved up and moved to their dream country

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I feel u

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i met the perfect ideal girl half a year ago

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and she dumped me

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for no reason

#

it was a perfect healthy relationship

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even her bestfriend whos my sister btw

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doesnt understand why she did it

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so like damn i put the world at someones feet and gave anything they can want and yet here we are

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having lots of problems isnt rlly toxicity tho

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at some point u gotta forget about them and move on yk

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took me months but i did it

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oh u will for sure

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cus i did

#

each time i broke up

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i said i cant find someone better

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and i kept finding someone better

#

each time i broke up, without knowing , i raised my standards , hence better ppl

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Some ppl have better lives than me or life maybe i wished to have

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but i dont care abt it anymore

#

im happy with mine

#

despite its flaws

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otherwise i’ll be miserable again

#

U were just given a hard start

#

but u can turn it around

#

It really is all upto u

stuck mango
#

@alpine hatch see the positives of your life too everyone has positive and negatives if you only focus on the negatives you will be depressed forever

olive wadi
#

Do u wanna turn things around and experience the life u want or nah just sit in misery

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that means u dont want it enough

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cus know that u can grind out for the life he has or better

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u just need to like , do it yk lmao