🏆-event-chat

[drifting bay]

Yes but as we see some 24/7 players don’t understand those kind of problems 😂

[ashen wharf]

or someone in the military that has a short tour

[hexed kettle]

Anyway, they’ve said this is all locked in stone for this go around, so this is mostly moot discussion. But i think there are other ways to entice pvp, and maybe if we give them some good ideas they can avoid this approach in the future.

[south arrow]

So what 0.02% of the server population?

[reef jasper]

I'm sure people have popped shields to protect their stuff and gone away for an extended period of time. We got somewhat advanced warning that a mechanic was changing. I suspect some players could get hurt by this if they've gone on vacation or something, but well this is the first run. When a player comes back they will know what to expect for the future. Worst case scenario your alliance could help defend those player's bases

[mental tulip]

If y'all haven't figured it out yet I'll spell it out: in this game you're either a whale or you're krill. Guess who drives the game development?

So, let's just see how this goes, but expect them to care about feedback on "The Other Discord Server" more than this one.

[ashen wharf]

Same statistic as the whales?

[south arrow]

Do u think a whale raids?

If u do you don’t know any whales 🤣

[ashen wharf]

good luck keeping those people

[drifting bay]

If going for an event 💯

[ashen wharf]

some people only have the pc version what if they are away on a business trip

[cyan cape]

If you are busy here, does this mean I get to raid you? 😆

[south arrow]

Oh yeah would be nice if they had computers we can take with us🤣

Go ahead I’m unshielded 🤣

[ashen wharf]

You should know what i mean by business trip ( 😍 )

[carmine tusk]

when does incursions start ?

[hexed kettle]

What you mean, my base is empty. Always. No need to check 😁

[mental tulip]

I'm gonna move north of the 20s, donate my mats to the alliance, and staff the base with Fortunates. Let them come.

[somber vault]

change like this should be accompanied by change that all resources bought with real money are resources tokens. I would still not be for it but could understand. this way this is plane stealing with no shield working

[somber vault]

I think on 9th.this month

[warm quest]

They haven't suggested a date yet. But by past Arcs, it'll be a Tuesday. So 5th or 12th would be best bet.

[alpine portal]

But we had a pvp event, where even more as 50 percent of our players in our ally did the pvp event.
And we had a lot of fun. It was the Realta vs. Realta event.

There it was possible, with the right officers, to hit someone with a few higher level.
And even if the other had better officers, we organized attacks with two players.
So it was possible for every one to win, thus they where engaged to do pvp and had fun.

[wind fog]

I remember Realta pvp event. It was fun killing people 10 levels higher than me.

But people eventually figured how to crew for event.

[hexed kettle]

Yeah. There’s definitely design space to develop fun pvp events for a majority of the player base. The jury is still out on this one, but at first glance I don’t think they’ve done much to stop it from being dominated by the powerful few. We’ll see. I’ll be trying it out in any case. I di’int get all dressed up for nuh’in!

[alpine portal]

Yes, i can go in small system, and hide me.
Is that how i want to play?
Is that the way i want to participate an event?
Shurely not.

[alpine portal]

We had even fun with our enemys, if someone had disassembled it 2-3 times, and i saw that he had bad officers,
i wrote to him, looked at what he had, and what he could try, and then arranged to meet again.
Nice chats had, nice people met. And others did it same way. That was cool.

[ashen wharf]

you werent here for resource raiding

lol

this is pretty much that which failed hard and made people go offline for 3 days

Before battlepasses were a thing

[south arrow]

I’m going to a lower level system at night only a moron won’t 🤣

It’s not hiding it’s called being smart

[warm quest]

That stopped cuz people were making multiple accounts to cheat the event.

[alpine portal]

Having to hide, even if smart - I don't like such a gameplay.

[south arrow]

How is it hiding ?

You can say the same thing about shielding

[warm quest]

Or when the whales go to the 500warp systems... are they hiding too?

[south arrow]

Don’t hide behind ur shield then 🤣

[rain root]

Yep ima drain myself of what little i have not in tokens and go have some fun!

[frigid ocean]

The attacking incursion players will they have unique coloring or other identifiers to them?

[silver pike]

yes the other server will have an indicator/colour

[frigid ocean]

Neat

[hexed gorge]

Hide in 20 during the incursion, then when it's your turn go and atta k

[paper venture]

Okay can we cancel this whole stupid incursion event!

Probably just going crash the servers and if it doesn’t it will be a whales feeding frenzy.

[wide umbra]

will we share GC when we invade?

[hexed kettle]

Yes, but only the complaining messages. Any positive messages will go to the same place our missing pm’s go

[paper venture]

Watch scopley will screw up the code an all shields will fail no matter the system.

[wind fog]

Remember when we had a pvp event where you got negative points for losing. Basically, everyone sent their miners out and no warships were to be found. It was probably the quietest event day in this game.

[torn crescent]

Come on, being ops 41 and not letting an ops 53 hit me I’m told I’m hiding all the time.

[torn crescent]

Just spend down your rss ahead of time. Leave nothing to take.

[untold pendant]

Scopely please tell us when incursions are so I don’t have to tell people we don’t know every 5 minutes 😆

[south arrow]

A level 42 or 46 can crush you what does it matter

And I never said it was hiding the whining baby above said it was hiding

[torn crescent]

That’s what I was referring too. The whales whining when you don’t set your ships out to be sacrificed. Should be leaving those shields down too🤣

[paper venture]

Already moved to a level one system lol.

[neon badge]

So dramatic

Waaah my pixels might get blown up

Get a grip

Wanna farm go play Farmville

[torn crescent]

Yes, it is just pixels, but “Shut up Wesley”

[neon badge]

It's Mr traveler to you son

[modest lichen]

No!!!! Best idea they have ever had!!! I'm so excited. Probably going to be a dumpster fire for a bit before everything smoothes out.

[halcyon mauve]

Incursion is the stupidest thing that Scopely has suggested ever. Suppression of something that is bought with cash. And then the potential of loosing rss that may have been purchased with cash. Yeah, hard pass on all of this stupidity.

[wide umbra]

just go to a level-19 system its not hard

[shrewd knot]

If territory systems were immune that would be different. But territorys are 20+ so we have to leave our region of space for something we don't want to deal with.

[wide umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-faint-good-heavens-gif-15654498

[halcyon mauve]

Yes, I know. But that means I leave my territory open to incursion s if we don’t have enough people who want to participate. Besides, I think it’s wrong to force a style of play upon people that don’t like it. Nor do I think it’s right to players to hide from the game if they can’t dedicate the screen time to play in this event.

[inland mulch]

Sure and what day will that be? Most is the servers will have a different start date. It's like telling people to remember when the tc events start and expect everyone to remember days/weeks later.

[wide umbra]

your TC are safe from incursions

[shrewd knot]

Whales want to attack without pesky shields. The peasants need to just accept the attacks and be grateful they let us play this game.

[wide umbra]

whoa im not a whale and i want to attack

what about me

some ppl like pvp

[halcyon mauve]

They can attack and occupy space in the tc. Just not take it.

Shields will be suppressed in the tc, so I will not be safe in my own tc.

[wide umbra]

so move to a -19 system and then back after?

[halcyon mauve]

Why should I have too? Because they want to force a style upon me? That is not right.

[wide umbra]

bro

why should i have to run from zombies? cant they like just not eat my brains..

see what im getting at

https://tenor.com/view/pot-kettle-hello-the-hypocrisy-zone-gif-14537828

[halcyon mauve]

Except your example is not equal to the situation.

[wide umbra]

its honestly not that bad you get move tokens doing dailies, they gave you the choice to move to a 19 system

[halcyon mauve]

If I opt out. That doesn’t stop you from participating. But if I am not given the choice, then I am being forced to do something I don’t want to.

[wide umbra]

but why not come to my server and make my life hard?

[shrewd knot]

Zombee block the shills, they have nothing good to add if it's not cheerleaders for scoply and their infinite wisdom and spot on coding.

[halcyon mauve]

Because I don’t play like that. It doesn’t interest me and I don’t see it as fun. So I won’t do it.

[wide umbra]

ok but you are choosing to play a game with pvp in it, perhaps check out star trek online, that game is mostly PvE and ppl cant just kill you

[polar belfry]

OMG, we still on about this. Its 24hrs for each incursion.... Port to a lvl 19 and below system and shield. Or dont port but make sure youre base is empty.... Simple...

Why are we over thinking this....

[halcyon mauve]

I love STO. And I do play pvp at times. But the shields give you an option to opt out when I can’t be online. Protecting my efforts and assets.

[polar belfry]

So, teleport to safe zone..

Simple.

[grand geode]

Hopefully there are enough spots for everyone.

[polar belfry]

They cant take your terry

[wide umbra]

i wish we could

[halcyon mauve]

I am opposed to forcing a style of play upon as player.

[south arrow]

Oh no I have to move my station waaaaaaa

[wide umbra]

so is your server super friendly and none had to fight for TC?

[south arrow]

How dare scopley make me hit a button 🤣

[polar belfry]

If they were they would make it all systems:-) They give you a way to opt out:-) Port out

[neon badge]

Probably one of those servers where they have to give 20 minutes notice to clear a 0

[south arrow]

Or they can’t clear a zero node 🤣

[polar belfry]

@halcyon mauve What server are you

[south arrow]

Must be a FarmVille server

[halcyon mauve]

You are being childish in an adult conversation. Please move along.

[neon badge]

He's on server pusspuss

[south arrow]

You are whining because u have to move ur base you move along🤣

[wide umbra]

i get board waiting for our 1 min warning timers

[halcyon mauve]

Nope, fought fir every spot. Help Allie’s in thier tc’s.

[polar belfry]

@halcyon mauve What server are ya?

[halcyon mauve]

It’s not an opt it, it’s a way to abandon a location and hide until the event is over.

[neon badge]

What do you never move your base?

Hiding in territory, so now go hide in 19 and under

[wide umbra]

i moved base 6 times today! 😉

[south arrow]

Hide lmao I love it you must never use shields then🤣 because that’s hiding as well

[neon badge]

Don't forget the kleenex

[polar belfry]

I got miners out so I cant move :-) But will for incursions😈😈😈

[halcyon mauve]

Rarely. Because I strategically place myself in spots so that I can do things that I want to do.

[polar belfry]

What server are you sir..

[neon badge]

So now strategically move to 19 🤣

[halcyon mauve]

Not wining. Stating an opinion about a a game event and the many things I see wrong with it.

[polar belfry]

Theres enough warp boost research to not make much difference from terry space or lvl 19 space..

[south arrow]

It’s a nonstarter and a dumb thing to complain about only people who don’t move are the people who are scared to get raiding and stay in the systems with limited spots for bases.

[wide umbra]

bro dont listen to these haters, i know it seems like an uphill battle right now but you should embrace it and invade the servers, use this Fear, get Angry, Hate them, make them Suffer for even daring to invade ur server

[neon badge]

Peeps be terrified of a little pew, how pathetic

[wide umbra]

actually im trying to get him to turn to the dark side -"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

[polar belfry]

Im gonna go clear 0 nodes for the server Im invading

Thats all

[wide umbra]

im going to kill everything in sight

[halcyon mauve]

Well, anger on my server got me slaughtered a lot. I don’t run that way anymore. And now take things in a more logical approach.

[hollow fossil]

when your being attacked by a ship you can not even scratch, how is that fun?

[halcyon mauve]

It’s this mentality that I do not enjoy. So I don’t want to be a part of it.

[neon badge]

That doesn't happen often enough to worry about

Whale hits base shield goes up

[halcyon mauve]

Not afraid of the pew pew. Just don’t want to waste my time gathering rss for others to take when I am not online. I am not playing to make thier lives easier.

[neon badge]

So shield?

[wide umbra]

today i saw a ops 31 crack a ops 41 base, its not completely unbalanced

[neon badge]

You know where the shields will and won't work

Plentiful notice

[wide umbra]

just out of question what are you gathering rss for? to build a better base? but why? to get better ships? but for what? the end game ships are for PvP right? so in the end are you not on a path of destruction ?

[neon badge]

The ability to play with a whole new set of people far outweighs a minor inconvenience of using a relo token

[halcyon mauve]

The event is forcing me to do that, which is what I dislike.

[neon badge]

You'll get robbed if you don't shield event or no event

So what's different

[wide umbra]

i wonder if "they" are keeping tabs on how many ppl are for and ageist this?

[halcyon mauve]

Actually, I gather the rss to improve everything I have to lesson the threats from other players and to increase my ability to take revenge when they threaten me or members of my alliance. It’s a path of protection.

[wide umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-best-defense-is-a-good-offense-dr-fauci-barbershop-medicine-be-on-the-offensive-be-rough-gif-22604297

[hollow fossil]

Most DO that, what upsets MORE people is that scopley is going to remove that shield even when is WAS up. Its very much like A landlord coming to your home/apartment and unlocking and opening the door walking away to let anyone wander in a take anything they want while your at work or on vacation.

[halcyon mauve]

The difference is that I can’t just shield. I have to move and shield. Possibly losing whatever vantage I had set myself up for. And possibly even other members of my alliance open to attacks when they are not capable of defending themselves due to real world life taking precedence.

[wide umbra]

but the risk is part of the fun

that uncertainty

[neon badge]

Too bad? Marginal hypothetical cases

[polar belfry]

Very poor reference... Its a game... And they are giving relo tokens to port to and from safe place.

[neon badge]

What if they are in the Himalayas, well then I guess they can't play on their phone

If they really are out if reach, make a support ticket and scopely will give your rss back

[hollow fossil]

very valid reference, make it your car, SAME thing

[south arrow]

They could be in space what about those people 🤣

What if they’re on Mars ohhh nooo

[neon badge]

They done that a million times for glitched accounts

[hollow fossil]

yes its a game, one of wich we expect that the base game mechanics will not change on a whim

[halcyon mauve]

Mr experience with Scopely is that they will never help me or anyone else. They do nothing but give excuses.

[wide umbra]

can i put in a ticket for pairing me with a dead server and not getting enough pvp?

[hollow fossil]

i think the other expectation is that this is going to go horribly and we are all going to be hurt cause of it

[neon badge]

I know lots of people who got raided because of a shield glitch and got everything refunded

[polar belfry]

I read youre post in another channel. On youre server do you need to have a tribunal to have PvP... Is youre server named Farmville....

[wide umbra]

last event when they messed up the mission boss and they were 2 high a level they fixed it for me and many other ppl

[hollow fossil]

and more who didn't cause Scopley REFUSED to acknowledge there was an issue

[neon badge]

It's not a whim, you're getting 2 weeks notice of exactly what will happen and and to do if you're a farmer

[halcyon mauve]

Actually almost everyone in my alliance is upset of the fact that they will suppress the shields that are already active. We don’t play 24/7. Do it means that will definitely be people caught on the wrong side of this action alone.

[neon badge]

And those probably just forgot to shield and tried to pass it off as a glitch idk what to tell you

All the events are announced way in advance

[hollow fossil]

no, my server isn't farmville, but are not being stupid about pvp, killing miners only hurts your progression

[halcyon mauve]

I was not. Furthermore they told me it never happened. Even when I gave them screen shots.

[hollow fossil]

no, i have personly watched sheilds be droped by players using a bug/glitch

[neon badge]

You have to be a real moron to not figure our to move and shield with lots of notice

[wide umbra]

lets be honest how hard is it to farm rss? i got raided for 100m steel and was able to make half of it back the next day by just doing some simple events

bear in mind im at a low ops level

[hollow fossil]

👋 Bye

[halcyon mauve]

It can be real hard if you don’t have the time.

[halcyon mauve]

It’s even more moronic to have trained people to shield in place and then take it away from them.

[umbral sparrow]

The economy in this game is messed up but no where near where Mobile Strike was when it started server vs server wars. Lag is gonna be the huge issue IMO.

[polar belfry]

Not even talking about killing miners... You are trying to kill the spirit of the game. The event is created for PvP, with a way to opt out. If you cant use the tokens provided to teleport to the safezone then thats on you.. Maybe a PvP based game is not for you, even with advanced notice being given you and your alliance can plan out ahead of time its move or even upgrades and ensure no plunderable resources and docks are empty. So instead of sitting here crying about something that may not change, people have offered solutions, to the crys..

[hollow fossil]

man you totaly MISSED the mark

[polar belfry]

Nope

Nailed it

[hollow fossil]

nope, missed, people want an ACTUAL pvp experiace that is somehwat BALANCED

[wide umbra]

be thankful i cant take ur TCs

[south arrow]

I think they’re point is they have to move their base and that is difficult to do 🤣

[hollow fossil]

60 vrs 39 isn't balanced

[wide umbra]

whats the point int it only being 24 hours in 6 hour slots and no TC wars

wheres the fun it that, now i just have to kill miners and afk base's

[polar belfry]

Nailed it

[south arrow]

39vs42 sane thing 🤣

[hollow fossil]

true, but at least that is within reason

fozzy, you do not know me, i do not know you, please do not assume what I want.

[polar belfry]

Nailed it

Will be 24hr event

[south arrow]

Yeah because it’s so difficult to move ur base only the whiners are complaining

[polar belfry]

Shield in lvl 19 and below systems. Simple. I will take the challenge 💪 of getting dailies done during that time

And also hunting

[hollow fossil]

have i said anything about NOT moving, nope

[polar belfry]

Combat mining.. I love it

[wide umbra]

but how will i afk farm npc kills?

[polar belfry]

Thats a good one.. Hope they dont check the system you afk kill in 🤣🤣🤣

[south arrow]

Oh no you have to kill reds urself 🤣

What shall u do for that one day 🤣

[wide umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/bandit-beuford-whats-happening-gif-12563779

[polar belfry]

I actually wanna know the scoring matrix.. Will it be based upon damage to ships, resources plundered and such

I think their should be a PvE scoring matrix to it as well tbh.

[south arrow]

I only care about the rewards 🤣

[wide umbra]

well i made 150+ g3 faming miners while we are having this lovely chat

[wide umbra]

i think the rewards suck we have all the time in the world to let times go

give us something EPIC

[hollow fossil]

nothing new there, i am very used to that, when you are at war for 9 months straight it gets very easy. But for that whole time if I shield I was safe, now if they pop an incursion on short notice or the shield mechanic is broken like MANY fear, we are not safe like it used to be. If I forget to sheild, thats on me, but now i can in theory be raided cause scopley decided to drop my sheild for 24 hours without my doing it

[halcyon mauve]

I hunt and attack bases of people that are in tc’s or attacking my friends. I also am opportunistic in afk bases in cracking them for alliance. I also attack warships when it makes strategic sense for me.

[wide umbra]

yeah but is it a challenge for you?

[polar belfry]

I never look but do alliance exos and personal exos stack such as Warp..

[halcyon mauve]

Yes. The hunted bases are usually higher ops than me. But that just means I have plan better. That is fun to me.

[wide umbra]

Peace Though Power!

[ornate geyser]

TC is still a thing…you can have your defence rocked by alliances on your server. With so many people clearly going turtle for the event, a bold alliance could actually some real damage.

[ocean gazelle]

will there be the faction event again today?

[desert laurel]

The ALB was only 2 days, so I doubt it

[inland mulch]

They want to force people to be vulnerable to attack while at work or asleep because that's fun. 💩 Messing with a day 1 safety net for players is nothing but a pathetic attempt to feed casual/low info players to the whales to make incursions more fun for them.

[tame mirage]

Yeh, except if you move your base #fishfood

[cunning radish]

Except you can move to safe systems to avoid that

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-magic-gif-12725683

[abstract gate]

Proper whales don’t raid a lot

Economy giving plenty rss plus you know packs

[bold citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/whining-battlestations-navy-man-whining-stations-whining-stations-gif-18292312

[inland mulch]

You can but they know a good portion of the players won't read the news or forget what day their server is slated to be attacked and will suddenly be vulnerable despite having a shield up. They could have made incursions an opt-in model where only people who want to play are affected but they specifically chose an opt-out model and then disabled shields is so people who are not actually playing the game at the time are vulnerable to attack. It's pathetic.

[polar belfry]

This is a mobile game. What do you expect.. Keep the coding simple and effective... Also.. Easier to just teleport to the safezone..

[cunning radish]

That’s their problem. Scopely have given plenty of warning.

Arguing against change due to a few forgetful or ignorant players isn’t a good argument.

[bold citrus]

But complaining on the Internetz is so much fun

[inland mulch]

They should give everyone a 24hr gold shield at the start of an incursion and then only people who are actually participating in the game at the time are vulnerable to attack.

[cunning radish]

The point of the event is pvp in 20+ systems.

If you don’t want pvp, move.

Fin. Simple. Done.

Move now. You have weeks of notice.

It isn’t that hard surely?

[inland mulch]

This is supposed to be a pvp event not hump afk player base event

[cunning radish]

Hence the warning.

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[inland mulch]

If this is a fun thing that people want to participate in then there should be plenty of pvp action and there would be no point in messing with the shield mechanic

[polar belfry]

Thats how terries happen and how base raiding happens.. This is just bigger

[abstract gate]

no, this is different, this is a twisting of an established mechanic (the only real defensive one we have) and for what gain exactly? what they think this suppression mechanics will adds to the incursions? it is not explained the rationale for this decision, this is a violation of trust, a trust that was already at a low point, exactly the last thing that Scopely needed right now, at least they should have explained in a detailed way why they decided to go this route

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-toothless-laugh-trendizisst-gif-23028890

By that logic they’re never allowed to introduce new features

Get a grip please 🤣🤦‍♂️

[abstract gate]

adding a new feature does not necessarily means that you have to twist existing ones

Can we stop talking about shields please

and prove is that they added a pletora of features without needing to do this in the past

Incursions are far beyond some base raiding

[abstract gate]

I'm sorry but no

Seriously some shield suppression is the least of the potential issues

Lol

[abstract gate]

it may be, but if so then why they felt the need for the shield suppression?

It’s not about what they intend

It’s about sudden absence of roe leaving griefers free to rampage without consequence

If shield is your issue, move your base. Simple. Three clicks. You even get free relo tokens

[abstract gate]

No I should not have to move my base

They are meanwhile however also providing opportunity to disrupt established rules of the here land without consequence. That’s the real disruption to the casual player

who want to participate to the events sould have to do something

not viceversa

No no

Stop focusing on some shield

Even if they’d remove the suppression mechanic it would still be enormous impact

Even more in fact

I get that you think the absence of roe is the worst thing, but to me is the fact that if now they can get away with this shield suppression thing I don't trust them to not do worst the next time

next mechanics could very well include a suppression for shields in every system that has an "A" in the name for what we know

To how many players resources are an actual issue?

If you have shield discipline and do most events, 0 players. That’s how many

this is why I will not stop until they will remove it and assure to never ever try to twist this mechanic again

[abstract gate]

This is just conjecture and tin foil hats speaking

https://tenor.com/view/spain-espana-windmill-literature-literatura-gif-17681542

this is the kind of thought that a low trust induce

[cunning radish]

Have fun getting raided

🤣

[abstract gate]

Actually I would 😂

[wintry tundra]

It appears to be a short time period where you have to move your base for. It can’t be that hard to do it. The whole community always says new content is old one wrapped differently. This one is new and we should at least try it once then judge it.

[abstract gate]

Getting billions and billions and billions faster than I can spend it, so wouldn’t care

[scenic kernel]

easy, there will be a raid SMS/XSLB/SLB.

[dire quail]

This community is quite tragic... if you can't move your base for a day, a weekend or a week, you need your head adjusting.... if you cannot live without your daily ritual of mining for whatever ress you need for daily and getting your swarms, you need your head adjusting.... this game can change whatever it likes, it's not YOUR game, you just participate and if you choose to leave over something so petty, then again head adjustment is recommended, or seek some alternative coping strategies to manage the distress this causes....

[meager galleon]

No need to be insulting

[dire quail]

It's not insulting at all...

I've increased my sertraline

[meager galleon]

Implying people are on meds and that it’s a negative thing. Mental health isn’t something to be ashamed of or looked down

You can have an opinion without being provocative

[dire quail]

can say it when you have it

[meager galleon]

Not really how it works

Anyway, I’ve said my bit. Go ahead and rant a little more if you want, just don’t be surprised if comments get removed for breaking server rules 🙂

[umbral sparrow]

Ok I keep scrolling through and reading comments but Scopely has more or less copied numerous games on server vs server that I have already played and moved on from. Why? Because just like Scopely these companies can't get it right. Lag and bad economy make us leave. Console gaming has been doing the pvp thing for years. Come on Scopely fix your code and get some real servers.

[paper venture]

Assuming they don’t screw up the code.

[elfin peak]

Hi, is there a system where I can hit FED ships with no reputation loss? It’s for the faction hunt event. I thought there was, but I may be wrong 😅 thank you 🙏

[ripe jungle]

There isn’t

Hit low level warships to minimize rep loss

[elfin peak]

Thank you 😊 👍

[cunning radish]

I think if they ruined the code for moving systems there would be something seriously seriously wrong lol

[inland mulch]

Why not just pass out EMP guns to people and let them drop your shields at will that would be "new" shouldn't we just let them try. There is nothing fundamentally new about incursions it's still the same broken pvp system. You can't raid someone who's online only afk or sleeping people. That's not fun. It's not even pvp (as there is no other player online).

Let's say you play Halo with a buddy. Kill or get killed you still have a lot of fun. But let's say you log off and.your character just stands there motionless so your buddy just runs up and kills you over and over. Is that fun? Certainly not for you and probably not for your buddy for more than a few minutes. But that is exactly what scopeley is trying to sell as a "fun new pvp" mechanic.

It doesn't matter how much you try to polish that 💩 it's still 💩

Instead of actually making pvp fun they just keep polishing 💩.

[vital drum]

PvP isn't fun because the levels are all wrong. It's just not challenging.

[weak copper]

What’s stopping you from having some fun by targeting invading players of your equivalent level?

[cunning radish]

Let's say you could simply press a few buttons so that your buddy couldnt attack you over and over before you logged out.

Let's say

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-annoyed-stöhn-oh-no-oh-nein-gif-24943313

[bold citrus]

Be advised : these images may disturb you

[wide umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/lack-of-faith-darth-vader-star-wars-i-find-your-lack-of-faith-disturbing-gif-21611529

[inland mulch]

Exactly that's why in any real pvp game as soon as you are disconnected for more than a few seconds your character gets removed from the game. It's not fun to shoot an idle player for hours regardless if you can kill them thousands of times or they are invulnerable. Pvp is only fun if you can kill and be killed.

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/you-missed-the-point-stick-animation-pun-gif-8425073

[wintry tundra]

Idle ships can only be killed once if the player doesn’t repair (imho hoch he can’t since he is afk). And I never understood why people grind and leave their ships in the system. And regarding your prior argument: that one is plain stupid. Scopely announced that you can still be shielded. If you are currently not in the right system you need to move. All the arguments I saw since yesterday against that mechanic is: I am too lazy to move my station so scopely is to do something about it. Only once did I read the real concern about ROE and player interaction while being on another server.

[spark zealot]

Why is everything "I am too lazy to move"?

I have multiple players in my alliance that will be on vacation without (easy) access to the game raising a long term shield who will not be back for at least another week - they were unavailable when this announcement came and they will be unavailable potentially while this mechanic will get started.

Not everyone in the world has "5 vacation days after only 1 year of service", most have more and especially during June through August it is a big vacation time in basically all of the northern hemisphere.

[inland mulch]

And I have never seen someone explain how the shield dropping mechanic is supposed to make a pvp event more fun. Why make the game more annoying than it already is for everyone when there is really no purpose for it

[wintry tundra]

If they bought the 30 day shield I honestly sympathize and I would reach out to a CC for those players to be moved by scopely. For everybody else: if you go on a 3 week vacation knowing you can’t apply shields during that time you risk loosing your stuff without this event.

[wintry tundra]

Just move your base. Why is that such a hard concept for the complainers. You can handle 24 hours of sending your ship a couple system further than you are used to. Put up a 3 day shield to avoid any harassment.

[spark zealot]

yeah, tough luck without access to at least their player id.

The event will not make PVP more fun, it is still the same boring PVP but now there are more players in need to interact with it. If you want more PVP fun, make it more fun.

[forest gulch]

In regards to Incursions. Make a event that rewards the participant with an inter-server token or add the tokens to the Cosmic Clean Up rewards store. Peace shields should operate as normal but now people can raid any server. Easy and doesn’t require an event that causes mass exodus of people who are happy with where their base is located. @pseudo rune @pure acorn

[wintry tundra]

How do you make PvP fun? I am on a very PvP-less server. I enjoy every PvP event when I can. But mostly it is sitting idle in a system and waiting for someone that didn’t see that I am there.

[spark zealot]

Change the god damn pvp mechanic instead of just raising the times you have to do it.

also if you want pvp you can play pvp, no one is limiting your ability to do so.

there is no need for an event for you to be able to play what is already in the game

[icy sedge]

Only fun part of PvP is either being way too strong for the opponent, perhaps changing some officers around, other than that, its 100% idle auto-battle where you have no influence of the outcome? You call that PvP??

[forest gulch]

I think a PVP event that rewards the tokens would be great. That way anyone interested in inter server PVP is included and those that aren’t interested can resume the way they play.

[icy sedge]

There nothing PvP about it, its AI-v-AI

[wintry tundra]

So I spend the tokens and jump to a server where literally everybody shields. What do you think I will do out of pure boredom? Kill every miner probably.

[icy sedge]

Make an Arena Server, have people jump there, enjoy.

[somber vault]

pvp is vs another player who is online. dropping people shilds to be raided or killing their minners doing daily
mining while on work is NOT Pvp.

[forest gulch]

Nope just like the server you are currently on. You search for an unshielded base and raid but now the amount you can gain increases. People still get raided all the time.

[forest gulch]

Also, making a section of space specifically for inter server PVP would help as well. No disruption to everyone just an added place for those that appreciate PVP.

[inland mulch]

Because I should not have spend my resources to NOT participate in an event. And it's not a one off event it's going to be at least monthly forever.

What if they decided to make mining Monday better having everyone who doesn't mine loses their shield at the end of the event? Would you be ok with that? After all all you have to do is reshield.

[wintry tundra]

The arguments are getting wilder and wilder. Scopely will give you a relo token. And even if they don’t you have a week to buy 2. that is not a Ressource you should be lacking of.

[abstract gate]

I don't get how raiding bases is considered a fun way to do pvp, in my mind pvp should be mainly ship vs ship, trying your officers combination to see if you can get the upper hand versus an opponent of similar level

[icy sedge]

They're giving you two even right? So you can also move back?

[wintry tundra]

Dont know. I have 1.1k of those so I don’t really care.

[wintry tundra]

Agreed. But raiding is fun too. I unfortunately don’t have much time for it but during an event I might make time for it.

[somber vault]

check star trek timelines to see how pvp battles could and should look to be fun. triggering diffrent ship and officers ability to gain advantage

[cunning radish]

It introduces stakes and consequences

I mean people can still avoid them by moving

But it’s a step toward that I’d wager

[inland mulch]

Really? No in game news or official post I see says they are even giving one let alone two. And even if they give a free token I'm still having to pay something that has value to me to not participate in an event.

[icy sedge]

Sure, but then you get over it, you comply, wait for it to be over, and then nothing happened.

What's the point to worry and be concerned about something which you have no control over? And yet there is something you can do which you do have control over? AKA get 2 relocation tokens today and tomorrow and pre-move your base before the event activates.

[inland mulch]

So you would be ok if they added a mechanic to every event where you had to pay something of value to not participate?

[edgy sierra]

I’m probably slow to ask this question and just can’t find the answer that’s already been stated, but in regards to the Incursions cross-server event, do we know if territory systems are considered level 20+, or no? Can someone point me to solid info instead of the “we think” I’m mostly getting right now?

[cunning radish]

Relo tokens aren’t valuable

They’re a dime a dozen

[icy sedge]

I have hundreds of them, how are they valuable. Not to mention they cost very little Alliance credits to get as well.

If you are always out of stock, surely that's because you are already in the habit of relocating so much? So then what's the big deal to do it another time, but not to raid for once.

[wide umbra]

do you think if i complain about us not being able to take TCs during invasion's as much as everyone ageist them in the 1st place they might change it for me?

[icy sedge]

Having this event be opt-in would've been a lot better, I'm sure the majority agrees and the circumstances are less than ideal. But we have a way to deal with it, so act on on that information and wait it out and see how others and your server experienced it.

Maybe it will be just OK?

And if you happen to lose a valuable system spot (I doubt such a thing really exists tbh) then bunch up with some friends and nuke them till they relocate.

[inland mulch]

Just because you have a lot of something doesn't make it not valuable. I use relo tokens all the time for all kinds of things

[icy sedge]

So then how is it different this time?

Buy 2 tokens, keep em ready for Incursion. Problem solved.

[inland mulch]

So you would be okay if they changed mining Monday so everyone who doesn't mine loses uncommon materials? You can refine uncommons every day. You probably have thousands. Should be ok then right?

[icy sedge]

If and when they come up with a new mechanic, I will deal with it then. It's useless to speculate and trying to find something equivalent to argue about.

Like having an APEX event while I am mining with 6 ships in ROM territory and I cannot reach Rogue space.

I mine 500M every Monday, but surely that's not the useless point you are trying to make.

And I can finally refine uncommon yes, wasn't able to before 41 🙂

[ripe jungle]

If you don’t mine on mining Monday, you already lose uncommon materials: the rewards you don’t get.

[inland mulch]

That's my point every other event in the game has no penalty for not participating other than you miss out on the rewards. Incursions you miss out of the rewards and still have to pay an additional penalty for not participating.

[ripe jungle]

You’re missing the point. Losing out on rewards is no different from losing what you have.

[icy sedge]

@inland mulchI get your point, I also do not agree with how it was decided, but we can't change it, it will happen. So now we are talking inside the Alliance which system we will move to, which crew to upgrade, which ships to keep in base etc. Lot of strategy talk going on in an otherwise dead Alliance Chat.

3. Moving with your entire alliance in a sub-20 system and dominate it 😄

We have an Alliance of 8 btw if anyone was wondering. So getting Alliance credits is also far and few for us.

[ripe jungle]

They’re supposedly handing out relo tokens so you’re not actually any worse off if you use them btw

[inland mulch]

That's actually not true. If enough people make a fuss about it they will change it. They change events all the time based on player feedback some even before the event runs.

[icy sedge]

From what I gather is that the upcoming Incursion event is more or less already set in stone in the code/schedule and not able to be rolled back. But the "next" Incursion is surely susceptible to processing feedback based on this one.

We'll have to see what happens when the new Arc is rolled out for coming Tuesday

[inland mulch]

Have you actually seen that from an official source because I've only hear that as rumor

[ripe jungle]

Can’t say I have but I don’t particularly care about relo tokens either

[strange bear]

Do we have a clear view on the first incursion date?

[scenic kernel]

rumor is 9th of July

[pseudo rover]

Nothing is definitive unless you find it announced in IGN or #⭐-official-announcements- so not yet

[strange bear]

Of course

[brave chasm]

Isn’t it potentially different days for different servers? Think I read that somewhere…

[pseudo rover]

There's a window of several days in which the events are run; in that window, each server has a set 24hours to do the event.
So yes, different days for different servers - to hopefully offset some of the lag.

[brave chasm]

Would be nice if it was on a weekend tho, or the windows were spread across multiple days in the evening.

[grim vault]

Anyone know what todays events are?

[scenic kernel]

not sure scopely does 🤣

[grim vault]

Can't argue that 😂

[warped stag]

Possibly the usual between arc filler of CoW @grim vault only a guess mind you.

[grim vault]

Ah was hopeful for borg event. Not enough of those. Thanks anyway ✌🏻

[warped stag]

Borg would be good but I wouldn’t mind a swarm return. Better said, try for more Jaylah shards.

[grim vault]

I can't remember the last time I saw a swarm event 😂 I was lucky to get a full pull of jaylah from a chest months ago

[warped stag]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-shocked-surprised-gif-5227249

[brave chasm]

Prob CoW if I had to guess

Maybe a Independence Day mini event, cos you know everyone is American in this game

[grim vault]

😂🇺🇲

[main spindle]

Well the game headquarters is in California so i would think there would be a independence day event 🇺🇲

But who knows

More than likely it will be cow event

[ocean gazelle]

soooooo

in 1 hour and 20 the mess will hbappen ?

[scenic kernel]

there is

[buoyant stirrup]

Great event!

[main spindle]

@ocean gazelle what mess

[ocean gazelle]

The inter-server raids

[main spindle]

If u mean incursion events that starts on the 9th as stated by Rev

[ocean gazelle]

Oh didn't know

Thanks

[frank island]

Where is info on that event?

[hearty island]

#⚡-mod-announcements message

[winged tulip]

Yay, crucible of bore..

[dull pagoda]

Imagine the lag at reset on the first incursion event

[north vessel]

Update cow rewards please!

[halcyon depot]

Ok this might be a dumb question. But in the new incursions are the invading players highlighted or in some way identifiable. Different from all the existing players in our server.

[livid garnet]

They'll have a different-colored circle around their ships

[rapid axle]

A newbie asked me today and I could not answer as I have been playing since launch... At what level does Cosmic Cleanup begin?

[livid garnet]

Ops Level 17

[rapid axle]

Thanks

[unreal hemlock]

Yes, hey will have a colored ring around them.

[halcyon depot]

Thank you sir for the info. 👍

[nimble lintel]

How is scopleys servers handle the incursion event? They're already slow, lag and crash.

[abstract gate]

It's on the weekend so probably let the interns handle it. It'll be fine

[ornate geyser]

Given the number of players who are gonna turtle for the thing, it might actually run with less lag than a Territory defence, lol.

[vivid gyro]

Plus doing the different regions on different days.

[tawny stone]

Not knowing the scoring to the incursion event.... is it alliance or server scoring? what if most of the alliance opts-out? I can see it being a suicide for one or two players to join incursion.

[scenic kernel]

from the announcement, look like a mix of all of that

if you opt-out, most likely you won't get rewards

[tawny stone]

did they say they was going to offer other task for anyone not joining incursion?!!!

[crimson barn]

If you join an incursion can you shield in lower systems?

[silver pike]

IMS,SMS,AMS,XSLB

[silver pike]

Level 19 and below. TC doesn’t count

[tawny stone]

thanks

[crimson barn]

So whether on my server, or theirs, l19 and lower you can shield?

[silver pike]

Yep

[tawny stone]

they can shield but outside of level 20 space, correct

[scenic kernel]

maybe for op 24 and below

[sterile hazel]

Military Supremacy Event? Some players have it and some don't. Any explanation why?

[silver pike]

Secret requirements.

[scenic kernel]

the biggest secret in scopely history

[silver pike]

No one actually knows for sure what they are. Just loads of theories

[tawny stone]

I think most players don't have the officers to PVP, so for them why suicide ships or station.

[silver pike]

🤔

[silver pike]

One theory about is have you got the ships Scopley want you to get and are they strong

Also Ops 38 is the last time to get MS

[scenic kernel]

and there is as much evidence of the contrary 🤣

[tawny stone]

I hated to say it but i will. Scopley officers recruit for officers is poor at best. Most of the PVP officers require higher tiers

[silver pike]

Is that to me or Rico?

[tawny stone]

yes

lol

[scenic kernel]

you. All theory for MS have conter example.

[silver pike]

Yeah ikr

[neat barn]

Just built my augur and lost milsup

[silver pike]

Even the T9 disco refinery is a mystery

[ripe jungle]

Why is that one a mystery?

[neat barn]

That got bored with making resources scarce so they figured game mechanics is just as good

[silver pike]

You can get the T9 refinery with 1 day speed ups before ops 40

and some ops 40+ players dont have it

Possibly just bugs

There is a few refinery bugs but who knows

[tawny stone]

@silver pike it's my opinion this event favors the players over 1 year into it or whales. I can PVP but my officers are low tiers, so i'll just be a practice target. I'm still game

[silver pike]

yeah I agree officers take time to develop

[scenic kernel]

you are supposed to be matched with a server of similar age. You won't be able to compete with whales, but they can't be everywhere, so you should be able to find some killable targets.

[tawny stone]

I know that but I'm OPS 36 on my server[67] and i can tell you I don't equal most of them. they have better officers, research and ships.. We don't get enough resources to keep up with all three. Plus sourcing officers is hard.

[neat barn]

Yeah, it's silly to think F2P will be all about this event. Maybe in a few iterations

[tawny stone]

agree but there's noway to separate F2P or dolphins will in the event. I would say iterations and frustration. Let hope they don't tie any new officers to it.

[scenic kernel]

not true, brackets are different

[neat barn]

Like ops level brackets? Not a fan of those

[warm quest]

They are good when they are reasonably distributed. Grouping 32-49 together is no fun. Grouping by ship availability would be more preferable.

[hearty island]

New Arc on Tuesday?

[halcyon sentinel]

seems so yep

[leaden gale]

Anyone else think incursion be: failure or be P2P fest ?

[cunning radish]

wait and found out

[devout tangle]

Did they mention how scoring will work for the invasion? Power destroyed? Resources raided? All the above?

[main spindle]

I upgraded to ops 40 before faction hunt will i get the events for the new arc at my new lv?

[inland mulch]

You should

[uncut beacon]

Failure... Too complicated

[fathom shuttle]

Not really complicated....

Jump to other server, do pew pew. Jump back

[uncut beacon]

For people who read these forums and have that level of investment in the game maybe not, but that's not the average player. You only have to look at the sizes of the Q and A to see it, you have to use the tokens, there is set times, then you have the new shield system, certain systems it will remain etc. All too complicated for the average player and overall will be a failure in my view

[fathom shuttle]

Sorry but in your view the average player seems to be..... quite intellectually limited it seems.

[bitter snow]

Some of them really are... but they're the ones who just sit quietly in the corners not doing much

But I think the "average player" - not the ones on discord, actually knows to read event text

[uncut beacon]

I don't think so, they just don't care enough to bother about something that seems overly complicated? They have balanced lives, probably making them more intelligent (from a life perspective)

[bitter snow]

There'll be some caught with their pants down, maybe even a lot of them

[fathom shuttle]

But it isn't "overly complicated". Not sure what you consider simple that this is complex to you....

[bitter snow]

But, they've put the news out ingame, and it flashed up several logins on the trot (for me at least), so if average player is playing, they should know what to expect

There's nothing complex about it... move to lower system, shield, or not

the rest we'll work out as we go along

[uncut beacon]

That tends to be the strategy. We'll see, my prediction is that the event is too complicated for people to want to bother with it (even though they understand it) and not designed well enough, and so will ultimately be a failure

[bitter snow]

What complexity are you expecting here?

[fathom shuttle]

You don't even know the details yet.

[bitter snow]

Shooting things, mining things, clicking things...

Or just happening to do the same on a different server?

[fathom shuttle]

It'll very likely be something like that "during attack phase pvp kills on enemy server give points"
"during defense phase PVE/mining on own server give points"

[uncut beacon]

It will be interesting to have this chat in a couple of months, to me it will fall the same as the PvP events they try to do in certain systems, no-one bothers with them really

[bitter snow]

The only real "complexity" here is down to "Where do I need to be to effectively turtle up?"

and that's in clear black and white

[fathom shuttle]

What? They tend to be very popular oO

Well maybe not VERY but enough to be able to comfortably do them

But ofc if you yourself never bother with them then it might seem that way 🤷‍♂️

[bitter snow]

Part of the "failure" is that people get fed up of seeing/beating/being beaten by the same people over and over again.
Also a lot of people get caught up in the "Of, if I do this, we'll pay for it later" mentality of ROE/etc.

Assuming it's a mix up of pairings each time, there's no reason not to go HAM on the other guys for 24 hours for giggles, no repercussions,

[desert laurel]

There are complications if you start to take into account Origin space, people that jump multiple times, jump token limits, base slots, spies, ie. and myriad other things that extend beyond a cursory romp through someone's galaxy to do some events. You'll have a short window to impose your will, to mingle or disrupt, to build networks or things no one's even thought of yet because the rules aren't laid out yet.

And you'll do it for the rewards that are guaranteed to be big because this is a feature that's bigger than almost anything before it. We've seen xslb rewards already doubling auctions, and local competitions like turf wars with a large pot. A server vs server feature that they've spent months preparing for with dozens of maintenances, even in the face of some huge stumbling blocks, and an out-of-patch teaser to prepare us for some game changes to years-old mechanics, can't be anything less than substantial.

[bitter snow]

Not seeing 'complexity' though...

Ways of applying a strategy maybe, but that's not possible until we see the events

Nothing in this game is complex

some of it may edge into nuanced

For reference... I don't consider basic year 4 maths to be 'complex', I'm aware others might

eh. The formulae can be complex... but they're not needed to play the game, just for a deeper understanding of the mechanics

[abstract gate]

The problem is that people have to opt out, not opt in. So people on vacations are potentially screwed

[bitter snow]

sure... but that's not complicated

that's just unfortunate 😂

[abstract gate]

It would have been less complicated if there was a neutral space for everyone to go, but instead they have to mess with servers

[bitter snow]

Then nobody would do it 🤷‍♂️

They did that once before with the arena system I believe

[desert laurel]

The complexities lies in gaming for advantage. Nothing in the actual game varies much beyond a basic mobile interface.

[bitter snow]

simple maths, then

[abstract gate]

And maybe they'd realize it's a terrible idea then. Or people who actually wanted to participate and get rewards could join

[bitter snow]

like looking at disappearing act, and adding up what you have, can get, and dividing by how much a cloak costs

[bitter snow]

I think all the doomsayers need to actually take a "no thankyou" bite of the event before saying it's going to be an abject failure 😂

[abstract gate]

I think you need to stop riding the scopely train and come back to reality lol

[bitter snow]

Riiight, I'm a shill for waiting to see what all the hoo hah is about before making a decision?

[abstract gate]

The game is literally trying to force people to do events, where's the fun in having no choice?

[bitter snow]

Debate level above 9000 I see 😂

[bitter snow]

I'm currently shielded in Cita Laga.... tell me about choice? 🤣

There's a very easy opt out route

And I've skipped many events over the last week

No forcing anywhere

[abstract gate]

And as stated many times by many people. Not everyone will get the message

[bitter snow]

And that's unfortunate, but then they probably don't care so much about the game if that's the case

[desert laurel]

The calculation of tets to pts is an easy thing to quantify. But making strategic territory, diplomatic, and tactical moves can't really be boiled down to simple math.

[bitter snow]

Or they're away long term, and know there's always a risk of not getting back in time, or something going awry otherwise

[fathom shuttle]

if you cant be bothered to read in game news, splash screen, discord, event description.... you really cant blame anyone but yourself....

[bitter snow]

"He has something I want, can I get support to take it" feels simple to me

it's only complex when you have to deal with the bloody egos and armchair politicos 😂

[abstract gate]

So you think the buggy "retrieving" in game prompts are good enough?

[bitter snow]

Mine all showed fine, and I believe it's still in the news center as well

so it's not like it's gone

[fathom shuttle]

i gave several other optiosn. but you focis on one because you have no excuse to NOT be informed.

[abstract gate]

Again. Assuming people read that

[fathom shuttle]

Dont read, your own fault

[bitter snow]

If they are there to read it, and do not, that is their choice

[abstract gate]

No it's definitely not their fault

[bitter snow]

The only people I feel any empathy for are those who are long term sick/deployed and legitimately won't get warning

And CS can reimburse 🤷‍♂️

[fathom shuttle]

So if someone breaks the speedlimit it is a legitimate excuse to say that he didnt read the sign?

[abstract gate]

If there is no posted signs what speed do you go?
If you can't see, how do you know?

They could very well have made this enjoyable for everyone without any repercussions

[bitter snow]

In this country if there's no signs posted, it's a 30 or a 60/70 depending on the road 🤷‍♂️

[fathom shuttle]

If you can't be arsed to read for 20 seconds some basic info you have NO excuse to be surprised by something.

[weak copper]

There are signs posted in this instance

[bitter snow]

plenty of signs

[cunning radish]

Literally nothing has even happened yet

[bitter snow]

just people looking for reasons to change stuff 😂

before even trying it

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/jumanji-rock-chill-out-gif-13928860

[bitter snow]

gods, the 4yo knows to try something new before turning her nose up, I don't see why grown adults can't do the same thing 😂

[abstract gate]

They should be considering an opt-in option, not an opt-out

[fathom shuttle]

The farmbots hope that if they cry enough the PVP event will be scrapped or nerfed so hard it fails and wont be repeated.

[fathom shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[abstract gate]

And why not exactly?

[bitter snow]

There's this thing called fun, you may have heard of it? 😄

[fathom shuttle]

To engage people. Instead of the usual boring drizzle. A fight is only fun if it is about something.

[bitter snow]

And the thing is... if the game is not fun, just stop 🤷‍♂️

and if the game is changed to not be fun, just stop

[abstract gate]

Because all you guys are arguing is that because they post things that we must read them, specifically on a third party app too, so why wouldn't you want to run the event with an opt-in option the first time at least and not the opposite? Makes no sense

[bitter snow]

Because they want the people who start playing at reset on the dot, to have stuff to do

Rather than it being in dribs and drabs throughout the 24 hours

[weak copper]

It’s posted in the in-game news. There is no excuse if you are in game for not reading it

[bitter snow]

That's the single biggest failing on PVP events for me... you can't guarantee opponents

Which for me is why I usually take the PVE approach... simply because it's quicker than finding people to shoot at

[abstract gate]

Opt in option... lol

[fathom shuttle]

Yes. PvP in this game simply falls short on everyone being able to turtle up and you not being able to do anything about it.

[bitter snow]

Which makes it terrible

by definition

[fathom shuttle]

Take that away and make it a fight for survival

THEN it is fun

[bitter snow]

First person to opt in, has noone to play with until the second guy does

[weak copper]

There seems to be an assumption that everyone is just going to automatically kill everything on sight immediately. Some people may do that. Most will wait to see what the actual rules of the event are first , then do that

[abstract gate]

How? This has been done in so many games before and is not an issue lol

[bitter snow]

If I hae the time, I'm absolutely going to go shoot some miners and bases 😂

They just might be on my own server 👀

[weak copper]

Could be negative points for shooting miners though. We don’t know anything yet

[fathom shuttle]

Depends on event and how the enemy server acts. If i score for killing combat ships i will kill combat ships. if they then just hide their combat ships i will kill everything until i see combat ships coming.

[bitter snow]

I'm Ok with that 😂

[abstract gate]

RoK is my most recent experience with this. It was a separate server that multiple servers could access with a key/token. It is the same idea but with a neutral space. They had special mining nodes, enemies and you could still raid people's bases from across those servers

It was full. Lol

[bitter snow]

"Special mining nodes" fills me with dread

We don't need more mining 😂

[abstract gate]

Just faster/bigger nodes. The benefit of being in the area. It was chaos because everyone had diff rules. There was no OPC/UPC

It's an example don't just focus on the things YOU don't like lol

[weak copper]

I don’t get why people can’t just wait to see the actual event first then figure out how to have fun with it. All the doom and gloom before we’ve even seen anything is nonsensical

[bitter snow]

Frankly the game is boring as hell, and time consuming. I've had a few days out as a rest skipping dailies the lot... looking forward to see how this shakes things up

[fathom shuttle]

Also @abstract gate you kinda make getting raided out to be such a horrible disruptive event.
You get 50% of event rewards in token. Most players have gigantic token reserves. So getting your base Zeroed is for the vast majority not really a big problem....

[bitter snow]

You find yourself playing because of the people, and because that's what you do at X time of day 😂

[abstract gate]

Never said it was

[fathom shuttle]

Then there is no issue with the event. 😂

[bitter snow]

So what's the issue? 😄

[abstract gate]

Opt in.

Are you even reading?

[bitter snow]

aside from ego and protectiveness of pixels

[abstract gate]

Or just waiting to argue?

[fathom shuttle]

Ships being blown up --> cheap
Rss in base --> fraction of what you actually have --> cheap

[bitter snow]

I'm still not seeing the problem with opt out

Considering it's a 5 second task to move yo base

[abstract gate]

The fact that we have to opt out by moving into baby systems. Lol

[fathom shuttle]

In my opinion there should not even be an opt out 🙂

[bitter snow]

Why?

[abstract gate]

I'm not repeating myself 20x over

[bitter snow]

Because the reason it's baby systems is so that people playing are all involved

Thing is, if the scoring is as junked as that one all-out-pvp event they had 18 months ago, it'll belly flop

[abstract gate]

Opt in>opt out. That's it.

[bitter snow]

e.g. a loss = a win in points, so unless you killed more than you died, you were a negative drain on ALB scores

[bitter snow]

That's a position, but not actually a reason

Considering the only reason that pvp is "opt in" in general in this game is due to the egos and politics 🙂

[abstract gate]

I gave my reasons above but you chose to focus on mining and whining instead.

🤷‍♂️

[bitter snow]

Yes, yours

[abstract gate]

You're still just waiting to argue. Get a life mate!

🖖

[bitter snow]

Opt in means you don't have the population to make it enjoyable

That's the reason they made it opt out

so that people have a 'target rich environment'

at least for the first 30 minutes 😂

I'm sure plenty will just turtle up

[dreamy robin]

@pseudo rune Some of us are looking forward to the Infinite Incursion event, while others are dreading it. However, there is a small minority of players that have no idea this is coming. The ones that popped a 30-day shield to go on vacation or otherwise have not logged into the game since before the announcement. I know we have a couple on server 56 so I'm sure each server has some. Can we make a one time exception for those players that have a 30-day shield up that haven't logged in in the last week or greater? Move them to a lvl 1 system somewhere so their shield doesn't disappear and they come back to a raided base?

[scenic cloud]

Shhhhhhhh, I am the 1 person waiting, just waiting , with full bookmaks.............. 2 amalgam raiding, mwaaaaaaaHahahaha

Target #1

[abstract gate]

You’re spamming on multiple locations too 😅

[covert heath]

Trying to warn anyone who might click on it before the mods delete. 🤷‍♂️ If I save someones data... I'll take the hit for spamming.

[pseudo rover]

Thanks for reporting; it was good seeing 10+ notifications all of a sudden. Sorry for the delay; work holding me back from becoming the best mod I can be 🤷‍♂️

[covert heath]

There's still a few channels with it in there. 🙄

[pseudo rover]

Discord making it rough; set the ban to delete past 7 days - it no work proper. Search also not yielding all. Will give a manual pass in a bit.

[pseudo rover]

Aight if you still spot any, hit me up 🙏

[peak glade]

During incursions, are shields going to be affected in alliance territory? Or can we still shield there during the event?

[warm quest]

TC is considered lvl20+ so nope shields won't work.

[peak glade]

Didn't realize they had a level. Thank you!

[warm quest]

They aren't labeled with a level but they have a level.

[versed osprey]

Not a single thing for 4th of july, besides the pay store lol

[desert laurel]

Seems too local of a holiday for much more

[versed osprey]

Its a big deal right?

[brave chasm]

We got thanksgivings tho? Tbh I think scopley should do some international holidays, could give more scope for creative events

[winged tulip]

Global enough to try and sell the packs to the UK..

[neat barn]

Too local? Yet there are 4th packs in the shop for sale. I mean, it was a good guess

[reef wave]

Tbh when don't scopley try and rinse a few quid out of everyone so why would the 4th of July mean any differwnr

[vivid gyro]

Picard Day.

[desert laurel]

That's an actual TNG referenced holiday with an episode on it

[neat barn]

Isn't there a TOS 4th episode?

[desert laurel]

Name?

I've only see a few TOS episodes so can't recall anything about that. The picard day was referenced in LD too, iirc

[neat barn]

I just did a quick Google search for you and came up with "The Omega Glory"

[vivid gyro]

I was referring to the Picard Day gift chest. It was awesome and didn’t cost anything. No “quid” required.

[fathom shuttle]

It also was a bribe for us to forget the utter xxxx-show that the research tree extension had been.

[abstract gate]

Should still have July 4th event

[vivid gyro]

The extension has some pretty good research in it if you take time to actually look. And you know, it came out that it’s actually the cheapest research extension we’ve gotten. But 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fathom shuttle]

It really isn't cheap. Initially it would have needed 500k$+ in packs to finish it.
And via free sourcing we were looking at multiple decades.
And that is additionally to 4* Mats cost!
The research bonuses are also lackluster in contrast to what other trees have already in them.
Of course there are some interesting bits in it, especially the 1st level bonuses of most of the nodes in there are decent

[vivid gyro]

It’s the cheapest research tree extension that has been added to the game. That is actually factual. Was confirmed on Talking Trek by Eco and DJz. But we don’t cry and whine about the combat or station tree extensions. If you wanted to slap down half a mil to power out all that research, which you would need to be ops 60, then by all means do it. That’s not the point.

[fathom shuttle]

Is that taking benefit vs cost into consideration or JUST looking at total cost?

There is a reason why multiple CCs where quite upset about it on release...

[vivid gyro]

You know what. Nevermind. We’re good.

[weak void]

You can't convince people with data, jeez. 😉

[vivid gyro]

No, definitely not. Especially when my original point had nothing to do with the galaxy extension but we just shoehorned that in there. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[weak void]

yup ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vivid gyro]

Sometimes I just really don’t understand this player base. Why keep doing something if you are so incensed and displeased with it. There’s so much negativity all the time. Just constant negativity.

[weak void]

I handle it by remembering that everyone that runs up against a problem is encountering it and engaging about that problem for the 'first time.' It's how I answer questions about 'the best pvp crew 4 my ent lulz' over and over again without losing total faith in humanity.

It's 10% what happens to us and 90% our attitude in how we handle it. I can't do much other than try to handle my own attitude when wading shoulder-deep through the Discords around this (and other) games. Folks rarely speak up when they don't have problems. So, if I put my head up and start engaging, well, imma take some dumb in the chin in the process. Y'know?

[fathom shuttle]

I am negative about what I think is wrong and I defend what I think is a good idea or approach. Like the incursion events. Really looking forward to it.

[vivid gyro]

I def get that. I have zero issues answering the same questions over and over. Helping new players get going. Trying to point people to the right information or where they can find it. But take incursions, scopely tried something totally outside the box and let us know a week early what the feature of the next arc is. And people are going absolutely nutty over it. Could it be a dumpster fire? Yeah it could. But what if it works right and it’s the most fun thing to come to the game in years?

[bold citrus]

So I hear there are people scared shirtless about some supposed event coming up maybe on the weekend?

Did I find the right discussion room for this matter

[fathom shuttle]

Yea. If you have 5 seconds time you can avoid it entirely. But for some that seems to be too hard. 😄

[vivid gyro]

And I can present something that is factual to an opinion but you still want to find the negative in it. 🤷🏻‍♂️ BUT where’s the praise for anything that scopely has done right? I mentioned the Picard Day chest and you chimed in with “it’s just a bribe”. Buddy, was it not a good chest either way?

[bold citrus]

It's actually been impossible to avoid it on any stfc discord ever since they announced it @fathom shuttle 🤣

[vivid gyro]

People are losing their domes over it and we have zero details. Don’t know scoring mechanics. “Oh it’s gonna fail” but what if it doesn’t?

[weak void]

We know two attack, two defense phases. 24 hour window.

[fathom shuttle]

Of course it was a damn good chest. Don't get me wrong. They also massively improved the tree in sourcing of rhodinium as well as the actual bonuses of the nodes. So that is definitely to be commended.

[vivid gyro]

They can bribe me any month like that. I will take it. 💯

[bold citrus]

I liked that chest. Can use one more, should be enough to help me build through to shipyard and New shipppp 😎😎

[fathom shuttle]

That would be awesome. 😂

[weak void]

It would. 🙂

[vivid gyro]

Got that chest. Upper rhodinium acquisition. Bumped the buffs a bit. There’s a refinery change coming this month. 🤷🏻‍♂️ sounds like the complaints about the galaxy tree were kind of addressed and rather quickly. Sourcing in g4 is pretty bad. Never thought steel would be such an issue. But things are improving. Nickels and dimes.

[weak void]

And that is how things should improve, honestly.

I'll grant that there have been extended periods where we basically, collectively, shouted into the wind and nothing happened.

[fathom shuttle]

They also improved payout of the daily boxes of the monthly packs. Quite the nice boost as well.

[bold citrus]

I actually think steel isn't so bad in the 40s anymore

And i hate raiding

[weak void]

Parsteel sourcing isn't great at 49 but I do raid and that does help.

[vivid gyro]

What ops are you?

[bold citrus]

Just hit 46 a few days ago

[weak void]

[I agree that there is a point in the middle where it's a bit too lean, maybe]

The biotics turn ins kind of need to jump ahead about two ops levels (and 48/49 get more)

[vivid gyro]

I just went 42-44.5 last month, pushed the button for 45 Saturday. Have a spreadsheet started for 46 and the steel has me freaked out.

[weak void]

45 -> 46 is brutal though, like any shipyard+ship level.

If you have a spreadsheet then you're certainly the guy that will wait for his research on rss efficiency to catch up for 45.

Mats too for sure, but resource efficiency is almost flipped to more important in the late 40s.

[bold citrus]

Sounds a bit like a diss 😅

[weak void]

Sounds more like someone sharing that they've found a troubling situation and are addressing it as best they can with spreadsheet magic. 😉

[vivid gyro]

This is the truth.

Efficiencies are all maxed for 44. Next steps are to get to R&d 45 and get those efficiencies to finish out the rest of 45-46

[weak void]

Nice. You know what would be slick? A building that focused on building cost efficiency, heh. One of the things I've held hope for is that we eventually get officers that can slot into the station. A commodore for the ops center, a head of the academy, etc etc.

[bold citrus]

I've always pushed for material efficiencies and haven't had any issues with steel reserves being depleted tbh, at least not painfully so

[weak void]

I don't want any more speed efficiencies. I want materials and resource efficiencies, man.

[vivid gyro]

Definitely. I’m still sitting on maybe 20b, so going in to an arc I am good. No big builds looming immediately.

[bold citrus]

Well, I do the resource stuff too, but not a high priority for me, at elast for now. When I get the stupid new ship I'll work on those I guess 😅

[weak void]

I've run mine down to generators often but that's because if I can build a thing, I build a thing. I have a 'plan' in the sense that I know what's next but sometimes that changes.

[vivid gyro]

Officers slotted in to the station would be pretty interesting. Who knows what will happen with the alliance staton and ds9

[abstract gate]

What would be slick is not having to level up crappy buildings like generators, vaults et al to level up Ops, buildings that are crap that give naff all

[weak void]

Like for Event Completionist, last arc, right? I did the math and was like "everyone bust out your tickets and lets do this; we need people top 3 in that stupid Avatar SLB because it got dem trophies and and and... "

That left me with a lot more mats and rss out of last arc than I expected.

[leaden gale]

I just see more bugs. Less support. But who knows. Maybe not. Said no one who’s played over 2 years

[weak void]

Agreed. It'd just be an analog to lower deck abilities, really. Some officers would be unfit for space duty, for instance, and they'd have a bridge ability (OA) and a station ability when socketed into a station building. They could, if they were really into this as a feature, use officer classes to drive synergy with buildings... but I'm worldbuilding without a world, heh.

[weak void]

You know what's better than complaining about crappy buildings like generators and vaults? Advocating for them to become more relevant and useful.

[vivid gyro]

Lots of scopely people coming out saying they have more people on staff currently for CS and tech support 🤷🏻‍♂️

[weak void]

Papa Paramount wants its fans that Scopely is converting into money for them to have lots of tasty, tasty screentime. That screentime = dollars. And dollars are why we have the game in the first place.

[abstract gate]

The biggest resource hog that provide nothing

[vivid gyro]

Gotta put it on the surveys consistently. Have to present the concerns in a constructive way as well

[weak void]

So yeah it's gonna have more whine than a vineyard and more squeals than the whaaaambulance.

It's a pretty complex game. There are some underlying features that need to be frankly redesigned before it's fully stable.

But this is changing the tire on a vehicle in motion, y'all.

The trend has been slowly, inexorably, toward more attention to ops changes and fixes. Not always the ones I want, but the ones that, perhaps, they could get done in that sprint.

Scopely is essentially a contract administrator, coordinating with their vendors to ensure that their customer (not us, that's Paramount) gets what it wants from the users (that's us; we use the platform). There is no small incentive. We have leverage, but we can't expect we'll always get all the things at once, eh.

[vivid gyro]

Which is why we ended up with SNW out of nowhere.

[weak void]

If Incursions goes... as well as the third month of territory capture... it's a success as far as I'm concerned.

Truncating Lower Decks (presumably; it is obvious it was meant for a longer content run) for SNW is fine. I get it. About 1/3 of players couldn't unbunch their britches over cartoons in their... cartoony imaginary fantasy pew pew game. The LD content was flatly brilliantly written and excellently done, art-wise.

I mean... lol

The SNW stuff felt rushed. The intro art is gorgeous, at least.

One problem with smashing SNW into Incursions is that the remaining SNW officers will probably have really stupid, purpose-built officer abilities for Incursions. Like Discovery's crew does.

[vivid gyro]

Well we know what Una is going to be

[weak void]

Although if we come out of SNW/Incursions with officers at least as good as Ash Tyler and Killy, I'm all down.

[vivid gyro]

But yes, LD was absolutely hilarious

[weak void]

(Georgiou and Lorca, aside)

What is Una going to be, then? 🙂

[vivid gyro]

We are getting more officers like SNW Spock. Una is going to be against surveys though. It was leaked in the German translation of the game apparently

[bold citrus]

What's so bad about georgiou? Or even lorca (I suppose he's maybe a bit too stronk?)

[vivid gyro]

Let me see if I can find it real quick

[weak void]

No, they're fantastic but they're epics and epic officers tend (okay, Barclay...) to be fine whenever they show up.

The meat and potatoes is in the rares and good sourcing / reliable sourcing at least for them over time.

[vivid gyro]

SNW-Una increases Armor, Shield Deflection and Dodge by <color=#40FF60>{0:0.#%}</color> of Total Attack when attacking Survey Ships while fighting enemies.

[weak void]

It is worth noting though that Georgiou AND Lorca had the same problem that Nero (and Gorkon, and Kelvin Kirk, and Azetbur, etc) had when they were released.

So the only improvement they really offered up front was that a single chance to succeed/fail at starting burning/triggering a breach was easier to track when the ability was active or inactive.

Do we know her captain maneuver, since that sounds like an OA?

[vivid gyro]

Nope. That was the only part leaked

[weak void]

Fair enough.

[vivid gyro]

Also, not sure if she is coming this month or august

[weak void]

I guess she was out there murdering surveys when she found La'an and was like "hey i need some warp speed" and La'an was like "lol no here's some cargo" and hid downstairs.

I mean....?! 🤣

[vivid gyro]

That’s a LD story right there for sure. Solid.

[weak void]

Transporter duplicate Boimler is bored on the Titan so makes other duplicates of the LD crew from a pattern buffer, but gets their personalities in the wrong bodies (because why wouldn't that happen) and they end up playing out the "Everyone Hates Kevin" storyline from the game arc. 😛

Throw in a Riker joke or two about Thomas (but it is Thomas!) lol

Fly off in the Defiant with a joke about how "those guys will never see this ship, will they." "Nope." // credits.

[hexed kettle]

Honestly some of the storyboarding one can do even just with the crews of some away team missions. Chang and Nero leading a delicate diplomacy mission… 🤣

[smoky shore]

any news on the battlepass arc?

[untold pendant]

I've only seen stuff about the leaked officer, which may or may not be in the arc

[smoky shore]

who is it?

[untold pendant]

"SNW-Una increases Armor, Shield Deflection and Dodge by <color=#40FF60>{0:0.#%}</color> of Total Attack when attacking Survey Ships while fighting enemies."

[smoky shore]

hmmmm interesting. was hoping for something different than SNW

thank you

[ornate geyser]

Two more arcs of this…

[smoky shore]

Makes sense to do a sort of Discovery/SNW crossover event with the wormholes/incursions

[dull pagoda]

2 weeks of dumping players from servers every month. No arc, people quit

Do TOS arc for 2 weeks while doing this ops24 stuff

Mining data lol. That’s 3 years ago stuff. COW gives enough trit for 1 repair. Stella skin everyone has

Swarm Sunday gives officers that have been maxed for 2 years, not even patterns. Gives mats that are half a single pull

This is how far behind this game is and why you’re making concessions now but it’s too late. Give the people what they need, not even want but NEED

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-spongebob-meme-weird-face-gif-15779118

[weak void]

Lorca is not too strong. Not even close. He's just a hull breach guy. Hull breach? Stronk.

Emperor Georgiou as captain with Lorca and Killy on the side, vs. an explorer during a capture event? That is strong. Heh.

[plain flint]

Instead breaking a basic principle in the game shield or share.
You give all events a refresh as there tired and boring.
I being level 49 did a away mission were i get 3 * ore gas which i have no interest or need brillant scopely

[weak void]

Then why do those AT missions?

[south arrow]

I’m a level 52 and I use a lot of g3

[plain flint]

Huh ?

[south arrow]

You obviously don’t plan well 🤣

[plain flint]

Miss my higher player i could ask questions

[weak void]

The scrap-to-mats pipeline is real and it likes its 3* mats and ships.

[south arrow]

Yep

Best way to progress with less spending

[weak void]

I've been 49 for awhile, bud. I use a fair amount of 3* mats. I don't generally source them through AT Missions, but okay.

[plain flint]

I have no interest in scrapping ships guess i am not getting most out of game but severely bored still with tired mechanics

[weak void]

So, Wally. Can I call you Wally?

[plain flint]

Yes and ty

[weak void]

This game depends on sourcing of stuff, right?

[south arrow]

I take and g mats I can get

[weak void]

You can take those 3* mats you don't use anymore and turn them into 4* mats you can use and need as you finish off research at 49.

(and 52!)

[plain flint]

Building what to scrap

[weak void]

You build a D3 or Maybeflower or Lego and tier it up, level it up.

You run it through that scrapyard.

You can do higher level ships, but they tend to be less efficient on a per mats -> effort basis.

[plain flint]

I never got bps for mayflower as saladin was better

[south arrow]

I build everything mostly because I don’t want to spend faction credits

[weak void]

(higher shipyard level)

Yes, the 26 ships do not drop blueprints anywhere in the game

except the faction store

or a deal, the event store, or AT credits.

You can't farm them, in other words.

They are, however, exceptionally cheap in the faction store.

[plain flint]

Suggestions where i xan get bchor bps systems ? Need 3

Can

[weak void]

If you're short on B'chor bps, just 3? Buy them. Or, if you want the full free2play grind, you can probably get them in the higher 40s systems off surveys with enough grind time.

They drop off Kronos home system surveys too

[plain flint]

Ar ok ty

Is the enterprise A besides bps cost huge disappointment?

[weak void]

Regular or 'heavy' have the same loot tables, so you really can just grind the regular ones with Chen and your pairing of choice.

[south arrow]

Klingon system level 49-50 best place

[weak void]

^ agreed.

[plain flint]

Northcut 159 enterprise A 650

150

[weak void]

So, the Enterprise-A (and the Hegh'ta, and even the Tribune... the holy grail of ships before the level cap increase) are just a lot to farm.

[south arrow]

You can’t farm those prints

[weak void]

There are 650 bps required to build them, vs. the (admittedly not free, not easy, rather steep) ride to 53 to get 150 bps to build a ship that will kick their posteriors.

[plain flint]

I am stuck at 49 due to lack of 4 * common ore gas

[south arrow]

Start scrapping shios

[weak void]

You lack commom materials like ore and gas because you are not using the game to help you get the stuff you need by upconverting those 3* mats you aren't using anymore into 4* stuff you need.

[plain flint]

Everything wants 4 * common

[weak void]

It sure does.

[south arrow]

And a lot of uncommon and rare for 49

[weak void]

49 -> 50 is a full 'all the things' upgrade. About the only things you don't have to upgrade to get to 50 from 49 are the things they've added to the game since. Heh.

[south arrow]

Getting to 53 is the same

[plain flint]

I have huge amounts of 3 *

[weak void]

Yup. Almost all of the shipyard + ship levels are.

Then Wally, what are you waiting for?

Spend some faction credits and build the ship you want the 4* mats for.

the Legionary for ore/crystal, a Maybeflower for gas/ore, or a D3 for uh, what is it, crystal/gas? I get lost in all the deets.

[plain flint]

Ty 4 the help muchly appreciated

[weak void]

You need to bring that ship to max tier and you need to level that ship to 45 okay?

[plain flint]

Ok thanks

[weak void]

Scrapyard results are ship level based (with... some exceptions that don't matter right now)

You can visit stfc.space, scroll to ships, type any of those three in and scroll down to 'scrapyard results'

Assuming I don't go to Discord jail for this, for instance this is what a D3 will get you:

I'm certain you could use 50k common 4* crystal.

That reminds me, I'm grinding out ship XP as part of tedious, terrible day 3 of CoW. I should go back to that.

[plain flint]

Yes plz ty ty

[dull pagoda]

I said the same about COW and some bot posted a SpongeBob meme

[wary path]

HAHAHA LOL

[cunning radish]

Lol Wally

Go to 50 already

[stuck geode]

when's the server vs server lag event supposed to start? just wondering when I need to put my 7d shield on

[cobalt dew]

If you're base is sitting in a lvl 20+ system your shield will drop when when that event kicks in

[stuck geode]

I know I will move

because even at L43 I don't feel like having my based cracked constantly by L50+

[cobalt dew]

Similar boat at 43... I'll be online to see exactly the 💩 storm that is this event ends up being but likely move down the boonies and shield up

[stuck geode]

ya I don't trust them to program it correctly. I will let a low level test it out first. I will start shielded in low level system. no need to feed whales.

[ornate geyser]

Hopefully, lol. Given the release history, the shield may drop on start of BP.

[stuck geode]

yep we can only hope they didn't screw it up to much and drop everyone shield everywhere.

[celest ermine]

Probably it will drop after the maintenance 😂

[weak void]

I got a nice auto-warning for it, at least, maybe it was for that I can't really tell. If a bot posted a meme over it, well, that's awkward. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weak void]

Unlikely, since we'll likely all have the awkward yellow "you've been maintained" shields for some number of hours after.

This isn't really gonna hit the ground running with Incursions at cutover. Maybe! That would be... some Discord drama across the galaxy if so, heh. As soon as maintenance hits, all the content creator videos'll post and all the stuff they expect to happen should be clear, eh? I'll wait until I know what to expect before I make the entire thing a failure though.

[ocean bobcat]

Will it also take a token to return to your home server?

[wintry cypress]

No

[ocean bobcat]

Thx

[wintry cypress]

After 24 hours tops you get automatically moved back because then the event ended

[snow aspen]

Question: during incursion event will existing shields drop or do they work until end of timer? The blog entry isn't quite clear regarding that point. It only says shields will be suppressed and can't be renewed.

[ornate geyser]

They drop, unless you’re in a 19 or lower system.

[snow aspen]

All right...that's also my understanding.

[rocky hill]

So.. basically everyone active will just move to lv19 or lower space and hide away... sounds exciting..

[scenic kernel]

well active ones will be raiding unactive ones 😅

[bitter snow]

They don't drop, because the timer remains present (but paused), but they do stop working in 20+ systems (including TC)

Timer unpauses if you move to 19 or lower space or the incursion ends

[abstract gate]

All systems <L20 will be renamed, YouWimp1, 2 and so on

[bitter snow]

What I'm curious about is if you hit someone while your shield is paused/suspended, whether it still kills your shield

[scenic kernel]

I wouldn't trust the shield to resume at all anyway

[abstract gate]

yes it will disable your shield, even if they are already suppressed

[bitter snow]

It's what I assumed, but haven't seen confirmation of it

[abstract gate]

UltimateDJz said so in is faq video 2 days ago

[bitter snow]

Cool, his content is usually too long for me, but good to know 😅

Though it's scary how understandable his voice at even at 2x speed 😂

[rocky hill]

Hopefully the incentives to leave safe space will be worthwhile.

[scenic kernel]

new officers should be quiet the incentive

[abstract gate]

i expect some sort of meta event to get full officers unlock (like for tandi) with some sms related to the meta needing to participate in the incrusions to make points

[hexed gorge]

Where the game gone 😱😱😱😱

[prime carbon]

Get ready for new events!!! 😂

[serene bough]

Lol

So now we prepare for wales and dirty hitters from other servers, gee sounds like a great event if your scopely.

[hexed gorge]

I'm looking forward to mine splat 😃

[prime carbon]

Is anyone else offended that Uhura, an ensign in the series, is a regular officer while La'an was lower decks and "unfit to lead"?

[daring flame]

What do Uhura and Ortegas have against hostels?!

[desert laurel]

Lowers their property value?

[terse summit]

Nothing that works, obviously

[scenic kernel]

maybe they didn't want to be accused of racism and upset feminists at the same time 😬

[livid viper]

Actually Uhura is a cadet

[fading onyx]

shared bathrooms, mostly

[prime carbon]

My bad 😅 but yeah, makes it even worse... she should be a lower decks card with no captain ability

[native meteor]

Do i read that correctly, my stored PVP Chest's are reduced to 1000 if Game ist back from Maintanance? Or may be i am wrong?

[abstract gate]

you are not wrong, but they also wrote that the rewards from the removed chests will be moved to the non removed ones

you should not loose any reward

[native meteor]

ok i understand now. Thx

[abstract gate]

but if I've understand correctly in the future if you reach 1000 you will loose the oldest chest, rewards included

[scenic kernel]

yes

[abstract gate]

this moving of the rewards seems to be a one time thing done after the update

[rigid coral]

More than 1000 PvP Chests in inventory? WTF 😳 Why? To lazy for opening?

[prime carbon]

Let's not start on how amazing groundbreaking and needed this change to chests inventory is for the player base! 😱

[prime carbon]

Most of them contain rubbish anyway and we still don't have a way to clean up our inventory off rubbish. Now THAT would be a change 🤔

[void pendant]

@pseudo rune can you share a list of the server vs server for the incursions events?
Perhaps the players can prevent annoyances from happening with diplomacy 🙂

[abstract gate]

How would that help with pack sales 😅?

[void pendant]

If you know it will be war you can buy packs to be prepared, boosting sales 😉

[abstract gate]

You need diplomacy for war?

[prime carbon]

We can't even get peace on our own server with diplomacy, let alone with another server 😂

[scenic kernel]

that is why you have incursion preparation events 😅

[abstract gate]

Shoot everything that moves

And shoot everything that doesn’t move too

Also shoot the stuff where you’re not sure if it’s moving

[cunning radish]

And then shoot yourself

To end the misery of existence

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-tired-sleep-so-done-field-gif-12244514

[rigid coral]

I'm curious if killing mining ships will bring points during incursions. If yes, then you can stop mining during this incursions. We have a RoE on our server, but when players from other server visit our server and kill everyone on nodes, these 2 days (?) are a waste of time.

[astral bolt]

No need for diplomacy

Nobody else gonna follow roe during incursion

So everyone will just kill each other

[weary matrix]

anyone remembers what was the last ALB before the current kill hostiles one?

[scenic cloud]

[fathom shuttle]

faction hunt

[abstract gate]

We currently have lat rush alb too

[weary matrix]

Thanks man, that's it

[long slate]

Anyone realize that ticketed events have been replaced Infinite incursions?

Scopley already off too a good start

[abstract gate]

source?

[long slate]

Look at the event screenshot on the release notes

Battlepass*

[covert arch]

They won't scrap them, right? They won't?

[abstract gate]

ok I got it, I saw it but didn't gave it my attention believing that it was not a complete calendar, looking closer it may very well be, but I hope not

[vestal grove]

They should scrap the incursions before they start them

[pastel tendon]

But think of the bugs they could introduce with incursions...

[vestal grove]

Scopely and its bedbugs

[versed stirrup]

https://www.startrekfleetcommand.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Update-44-Battle-Pass.png

[vestal grove]

Not knowing what server vs what server will go they should ban the 5* ships from it. Its too big difference and if your server has few or more of them against the other without.... its crazy

[scenic kernel]

that event schedule is very light, I would expect that it doesn't countain all events, including ticketed events for instance

[pastel tendon]

Fingers crossed

[versed stirrup]

I thought incursions duration is 1 day, do we have incursions 3 days long then? 11, 12, 13

[pastel tendon]

If they are spreading incursions across servers, maybe an incursion can be any of those days, not all of them?

[versed stirrup]

Okay so prep on the weekends what so ever this event is 🙂

[scenic kernel]

like matroska said. They say it will be spread to avoid lag.

[weak copper]

1 region per day presumably

[abstract gate]

That’s never gonna happen. Let’s exclude the people that pay to keep the lights on …

[abstract gate]

Yes, this

[grim river]

when the maintenance ends?

[abstract gate]

In approximately one hour according to the announcement.

[vestal grove]

Then they just forget about the people that are on the way to ops 50 and they will end up with a lot of people that got screwed by the too big difference in power. Its not a small gap....

[scenic kernel]

isn't that the point? so that they accelerate their progress to op 52?

[rotund talon]

did they specify which region is which day??

off topic but i miss the post maintenance Q and A that answers some questions and clarifies some stuff about the arcs to come

[scenic kernel]

that usually happens later in the day

[weak copper]

Not that I’ve seen but it will probably be in the event news in game later I’d imagine

[upbeat widget]

Event store?

[scenic kernel]

in your dreams

[brave crescent]

Wtf Scoply, the ui change for Alliance shop is useless and bad

[reef wave]

Chest box greyed can't coll3ct

[earnest hornet]

updated the game?

[rotund talon]

😱 the lack of red Indicators

[scenic kernel]

he didn't, he would have red markers all over

[timber axle]

And WTF thought it was a good idea to red mark everything that can be claimed? Ridiculous.

[neat plover]

have a red 2 by away teams but no missions to collect and no new ones either

[reef wave]

@earnest hornet already did and annoyed already so many red numbers floating about

[charred spindle]

Red flags are annoying

[meager haven]

No kidding.

[fathom edge]

Scopely Removed My Frame From Game 🤕🤕🤕🔫

@pure acorn 😣

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[fervent pine]

Hi can you give us a button to take away all those new information red squares?

[meager haven]

That’ll be $99 plz.

[scenic kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

[versed osprey]

@pseudo rune all those new red notifications are really annoying

[brave crescent]

@scoply Added
an improvement where a red marker will appear when currency can be spent in the Alliance store.

Added an improvement where a red marker will appear when bundles can be claimed in the Territory store.

Remove this NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is anoying and distracts from important Armada information

[glacial crater]

I have a question but first yes OMG pls ditch the buttons. I'm never buying parsteel from the Territory store FFS.

Does anyone know if this new vidar mission in the holodeck... Actually gets your the vidar?

[versed osprey]

cosmic clean up

[abstract gate]

Yes

[scenic kernel]

yes and no. you can only be attacked by 14-18. But a op 24 could be attacked by a 25+. And you will lose your shield.

[glacial crater]

Yes, but thats 6 more weeks of cosmic clean up and I want it now 😆

[versed osprey]

not gonna happen

event store or ccu only way

[glacial crater]

But there’s literally a mission in the holodeck called vidar lol. It’s new since the update. That’s why I’m wondering if the end result is you can actually build a vidar or it gives you some bps at least

[scenic kernel]

yes

[versed osprey]

check on stfc.space

[abstract gate]

In territory space everyone can attack you

Including invading 25+

Also it helps to not add details in your question later like your actual ops level 😂

In this case the PvP banding when ops 24 means there are invaders that can attack you anywhere, when being ops 16 it means they can only attack you in territory. So quite a lot actually.

[past crest]

looks like update broke auto hostiles counting for CoW
You have to initialize the attacks now.

[wispy pike]

Seeing the same and annoyed that they keep reintroducing the same bugs. Get it together, folks.

[weak gust]

No. This was a Feature in the last or second last Update.

[plucky ermine]

The problem with red markes is not that they introduced more of them (which is useful) but they do not disappear when you press the button and also are not synced properly across devices!

[cunning atlas]

No it worked properly this morning before the update.

I'm expecting a box with the cow rewards we're now missing due to this new bug

@pseudo rune

[past crest]

in previous events if you had to initialize attacks it would state that in the event text.
since the text has not changed the auto hostiles should count for the event.

[abstract gate]

Cipher event answers ?

[weak gust]

Ah ok

[worthy plaza]

does the event store chest change the ship BP you get? i'm OP 29 and still getting saladin/bortas even though i already have a saladin. if i level to 30/32, does it switch over to another ship or am i stuck?

[wispy pike]

Also, when they broke it in past, they specifically said that wasn't intended. Yet, here we are again.

[versed osprey]

or just grind them your self

its not hard

[cunning atlas]

Wow the arrogance, come over and do it for us if you are a no-life playing games 24/7

[versed osprey]

its 15 min work with 2 ships lol

if you dont even have the time to do that why even play this game

[abstract gate]

Really need to resort to ad hominems here?

[cunning atlas]

Lol lend me your G5 ship and I will. With just 50 points per kill if would take hours to do my share, not even mentioning for most in the alliance they don't have epic ships

[versed osprey]

lol im 33 and i only need to kill 25-50 ships