#🏆-event-chat

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tiny crescent
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It will take years to get if I dont spend

agile pecan
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You can always change your expectations? I'm FtP and I'll get there when I get there. Otherwise I just do things a little bit differently than others.

tiny crescent
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True

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But I'm not into playing a game I can't progress in

bitter snow
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They've gotten most of my purchases out of me by being a case of "I'm almost there... ooh, that'll get it NOW" after I've already waited a month 🤣

tiny crescent
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Level 35 killing the highest hostiles i can and all they give are Keira and Kumari bps pls I needed that at level 22 notc35

bitter snow
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I maxed my sally, can't seem to get the traction on B'rel to get the gas for passing T4 at the moment, so working on frankie and saving for augur at the moment

tiny crescent
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Exactly where I am zabat

bitter snow
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34 🙂

tiny crescent
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And every building wants gas

bitter snow
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Not budging till my frank can do a few 35's for swarm sunday

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Sure does 😐

abstract gate
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Hi <@&509690795536941056>
Could you please help and explain what can ops41 player build, research or even repair with all this dilithium that you are giving away through domination solo milestone.
And while you are at it, can you please make short questionare and ask Devs if they know an average cost of 1 research at r&d 41. (Hint: its bit more than 500k dil)
Will patiently await your response

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tiny crescent
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And every other ship

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My point exactly

bitter snow
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I always seem to have ore left over though, which I why I figure the augur is next

tiny crescent
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We seem to be thinking the same

bitter snow
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about a third of the way on credits already, and only at 2.1m faction

tiny crescent
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For 130 you can get 15 bps 😋

bitter snow
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Aah, it's "only" £91 for me 🙂

tiny crescent
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Im in canada so packs are more

bitter snow
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I'd need to check exchange rate, but I think you're getting the better deal 🤣

tiny crescent
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Lol

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Maybe

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100 us

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I have triple lock done

bitter snow
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about £75

tiny crescent
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The last event store was good slso

bitter snow
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git :p

tiny crescent
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But needs to be something like that running all the time

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Just like free boxes give you 500 dilithium or titanium wow

bitter snow
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You say that, but 'm looking forward to arc events that give resources... had to start digging into my trit tokens the other day 🙂

ashen wharf
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Buy more packs then

tiny crescent
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You could bye resources

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In event store

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How much should one gun cost

bitter snow
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I think the last one I did was 60m? 🙂

tiny crescent
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I mean for 130 should upgrade one gun

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At least

bitter snow
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Although it was mostly because I just blitzed all the missions for Fed and Rom recently, so had a lot of donations to do

tiny crescent
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Anyway gotta complain somewhere im honestly not sure how much longer I'll be playing my alliance will be happy when I give them billions of resources

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What server you on zabatiz

graceful shard
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Are we getting another arc in the near future? I’m assuming domination again today but hoping for better

tiny crescent
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Im sure that's why no events for a week if they cant monetize it

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They won't give it to you

bitter snow
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161

tiny crescent
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👍🏾

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33

tropic aspen
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I love grinding lvl 38 romulan survey ships for rep to still get occasional 2 star survey parts

cyan finch
keen ledge
unkempt pecan
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Any news of what events we have coming this week? The post-new year run of events has been poor to say the least,. . . .

keen ledge
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Unfortunately, no. The only event calendars that are published are specific to arc activities. Since we're between arcs.... no info.

unkempt pecan
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Ok, thanks for the reply Jess. ☺️

warped stag
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Normally there is a lull before arcs or decent events kick in. Enjoy the freedom and explore something in game that you didn’t have the time for. 👍

hollow arch
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there was an attempt to run jelly auction on weekly basis , now seems to be gone back to kind of a monthly pattern. any luck we go back to the weekly pattern, the jelly is the key to high DS so many player there waiting and giving out only 3 jelly per month is so little. hopefully some moderator pass this over to devs or who ever responsible for the events scheduling.

abstract gate
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Every non-arc, "regular" ship is obtainable through some kind of grind.
Even arc ships come out in store and event store every so often for those who miss out.
Only Jelly is gated through auction type of event (well that and epic chest)...what does that tell you...its still their biggest cash cow

bitter snow
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Lucky you have 3 on your event, I think there was only 1 full pull on ours last I heard 🙂

hollow arch
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sems to be dependent on server activity, we have 1 and 2 getting full jelly, rank 3 gets 60bp, rank 4 and 5 getting 30bps each

bitter snow
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yeah, activity / level range / age I would think likely candidates

naive moon
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Pockets?

tiny crescent
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Greed

uncut garden
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Apex outlaw going live

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Mine data wooo I needed to anyways

keen citrus
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Nice one Scopely another mining event. You rebrand this game as Galaxy Miner 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

uncut garden
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Lmao tomorrow is hostile hunting and Friday is exchange armadas fcking chill. Believe it or not, mining is an integral part of the game that has to be done

Of course unless you’re a troll

keen citrus
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3 grades of gas, ore and crystal, latinum, data, isogen and mycelium. You seriously don’t think this is a mining game?

abstract gate
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You can also finish today with 10 Khan shards, building or upgrading Botany and mining for about 30 min to 1h.
As far as mining part goes this is easy.
Apex is good event.

Please, please, please put common g4 with unc and rare you are giving in event store for token exchange

shut raptor
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i just upgraded my BB this morning before event dropped to lvl 6....damm you stupidley..

small comet
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would it be possible to get the special refine event back for latinum too? Im sure people have some stack up raw lat.

abstract gate
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Arc = battlepass?

pale cobalt
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Yes arc = battlepass which also = new content and new bugs

empty kiln
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For the second day in a row, no events for lvls 19 and under on server 181. Every other seems to have at least Domination @twilit imp This must surely be a server specific error?

shut raptor
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whats ARC?

languid harness
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Will upgrading stella modules count for points in the second or third day of Apex?

shut raptor
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augment pack kinda sucks....3000 = 6 pulls for shards or 150 total possible shards....10% chance of epics and no lucky pulls are possible...50/40/10% splits and no guarantee epic pulls...
and you only get 10 shards of epic from pack...4.6k independent credits is ok

the only one worth getting is Khan but you can get him for free in augment store...sooo hard pass for $100 now if this 19/25 i would get it..

dropping $100 and you most likely wont get an epic captain out of this. 💩

short acorn
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Anyone know when we're getting the bonus uncommon+ refinery?

granite wadi
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It isn't on any kind of schedule. Just when it's decided the game economy needs it.

agile pecan
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or they screw up

abstract gate
wraith token
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Wouldn't hold out much hope for a bonus refinery

keen citrus
north agate
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Apex Hunter - Solo Milestone for tiers 20-26 where you earn additional points for upgrading or using a Stella... umm, Stella not available until level 27!

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thin bloom
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Constructing and upgrading only applies to the hijacked ships, but yeah, it's kinda impossible to use a stella <27 😅

north agate
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The highjacked ships also only available to lv26+... so really, the tier is lv26-26

tender bay
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Please do a discovery event as this is the only way to get any more discovery shards or spore drive components. 🖖

tawny olive
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Next week starts the next arc ??

heavy cradle
north agate
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I think they must have changed it this morning (?), because I didn’t think they were available until 28. @heavy cradle

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heavy cradle
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Must have changed recently. I could have sworn it wasn't the same shipyard as the standard MF originally

limpid maple
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Whaat

dapper drum
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been lvl 26 since their inception

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but knowing scopely could also be server dependent

pale cobalt
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They used to be shipyard level 27 on my server

ember walrus
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I actually think the Shakedown Crew pack is a good deal for once. 4 officers nice synergy with pike.

robust vapor
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@ember walrus what are you going to use the synergy for though?..

ember walrus
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It effects pikes bounus correct which in turn effects the other officers xp bonus

ashen wharf
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lol synergy doesnt affect that

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Reread them

earnest hornet
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xp is after combat, basically like loot,

ashen wharf
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Yep

ember walrus
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Ah crap

earnest hornet
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it is a good pack to get,

ember walrus
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Well still a nice xp bouns to add to goon for cheap (at least for scopely)

earnest hornet
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leslie is proably the best officer of the lot, especially helping for mission bosses, and armadas

ashen wharf
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better with talla pike goon tbh

earnest hornet
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cos he will keep buffing you hull health

ashen wharf
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But yeah you could swap talla now

subtle tree
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need to do the math to see if adding one of those new officers is better than t'laan/pike/goon combo for xp

ashen wharf
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Wait t'laan

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Not talla im tired 🤣

ember walrus
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Pike moreau and one of the xp officers has gotten me more over all in the last three tests due to more kills

earnest hornet
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yup promoting pike will get you more in the long run, for the length of life

ember walrus
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Lvl 10 pike

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Needs more luck for shards

earnest hornet
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yup but even the he still good at that level for xp grind.

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also do the XP buff research in territories will help heaps too

ember walrus
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I am maxed for territory research for ops 31

earnest hornet
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so yeah adding the shakedown crew with pike moreau, would be the way to go

ember walrus
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It also completed me having every non event officer unlocked. So that was part of my decision

earnest hornet
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👍 yeah i bought the pack today too for that

noble walrus
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Hey folks I have a bunch of members that are level 19 and below. What are they going to be able to do for the event???

bitter snow
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Not a lot, and nothing towards the ALB so far as I can tell

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Not sure what they put in instead of Apex for the sub 20's

noble walrus
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Thanks was hoping to see something to get them motivated for the event.

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bitter snow
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New server, or just low activity players?

noble walrus
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Forgot to put that earlier

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New player on my server

bitter snow
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I would just ncourage them to get to the mid 20's as soon as they can, there are more things that are being locked off at 25 (arc missions, etc), and if they aren't 20 at least when the next battlepass comes out they'll be missing out on getting any g3 rewards from it

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two faction if they can, don't do all the common ships (pick one and stick with it), etc

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game opens up hugely in the 20s

noble walrus
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Yeah I'm doing that but don't want to have them skip all the researches to do that as it will really handicap them

bitter snow
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21 is a nice spot to rest at, while building up faction credits

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Think I did 23 until I had the credits for a legionary, but I was using a N* to do all my dailies at that point

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Also seen people sit still too long when their ships are fully capable of hitting higher

noble walrus
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I like that idea, but, didn't you get stuck in the refinery rates

bitter snow
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Not too badly, needed 20+ for g3 refinery, and the N* then stalled when it started needing rare that I couldn't complete missions for

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Legionary jumped to t5 or 6 with saved up ore when I unlocked it

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But yeah, as soon as a ship can do the next even level's dailies competently, it's time to level up ops again

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Because you get better rewards from events, and "better" pull rates on the refinery

noble walrus
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I had the same issue there, but l always pushed my ships to hit bigger hostiles and missions

bitter snow
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21 keeps you under the radar of larger raiders, but 23 gives you that defence platform boost to make your base harder to crack for the mid levels... though I just shielded for the whole time 🙂

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Entirely skipped the 3* common ships except to build them for mission completion, made the latter 20's much easier to deal with

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Not FTP, but light touch at that point

noble walrus
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I'll pass that on to my folks and see what happens in the next event. But I do remember we had this issue with a lot of players being unable to participate in the event and Scopley had made adjustments. As well as compensated them. Was hoping that would be the case for these folks

bitter snow
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Key thing for me on that run was not rushing levels until I had the credits for the next ship, but not holding back if the ships I had could handle themselves (swarms were always the main issue!), it's a balance - and where I was dual faction, I always had enough repairs and available points to skip swarms if I needed to

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Ops 35 in the oven now 🙂

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As Ithink I can cope with and benefit from the jump in swarm sunday targets

noble walrus
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I'm still single factioned but am maxed in Rogue, so dual faction is where I need to get these guys?

bitter snow
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It's slower to gain ground, but means faction dailies don't get too hard too quick

noble walrus
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I'm level 30 currently

bitter snow
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My main, I got stuck at 31 unable to finish dailies, because my saladin was awful

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But was also single faction fed at the time

noble walrus
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Yeah I'm pushing mine along but have the Mayflower and Legionaire and V'dar knocking out dailies

bitter snow
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Ended up grinding up klingon before locking either

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knocked ~1m off my fed faction, but got them both on part at around 4.5m at that point, and by then I'd been saving every scrap of crystal 🤣

noble walrus
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That's my plan as I'm Federation too

bitter snow
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Did Klingon lock, maxed sally (klingon missions give crystal - handy!), locked fed in the space of about a month (did ALL the missions), and now going strong on Roms - again, all the missions 🙂

noble walrus
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I'm close to maxing them

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Thanks for the info I will be posting this for them to read . Stay safe

bitter snow
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You too 👍

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Dual faction though, unless you're in TC every hour of every day, more repairs than you could ever reasonably use if you're just doing dailies and the odd base crack etc

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Best thing I ever did 🙂

noble walrus
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👍

burnt trail
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Triple faction for life yo

broken rune
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Hahaha really??? What Is this a Joke? Call to arms and mega miners rewards are pointless..not even worth the time

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Seems like an year ago events

olive crystal
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Why is G4 mining not counting towards event, is that a deployment issue?

shrewd totem
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because it was a year ago last time we saw C2A

broken rune
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Incredibile

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Without a battlepass this game Is frozing

olive crystal
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Maybe they were supposed to deploy CoW and someone click CtA

broken rune
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But wait there Is the super stella upgrade pack in the store 🙈🙈🙈🐽🐽

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I never complain but this time i'm really disappointed... Cmon @twilit imp

waxen galleon
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These events are awesome....... lol

broken rune
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Sarcasm i Hope 😅

nova valley
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i'm guessing these events haven't been udpated prize wise. inquiring now

steep stone
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I have to mine 180,000 g3... 12 hours of mining with my best crew and ship, while somehow also trying to raid for this leaderboard?

broken rune
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After level 39 events are becaming umbalanced till pointless... The Only good One was si vis pacem parabellum... But they forgot about it... 😡😡

idle ocean
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What is a b hunter for the Apex hunter?

modern estuary
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@twilit imp whats with the rubbish rewards? i have to mine 2.43mi for this?

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weak copper
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Augment space hostiles @idle ocean

stone grail
idle ocean
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I killed romulan traders and it is not registering

modern estuary
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@idle ocean kill augments, ecp traders or augment bounty hunters

dry phoenix
modern estuary
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faction traders do not count

pale cobalt
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Pts aren't adding correctly for using the Stella against bounty hunters either 😂

dry phoenix
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Waste of my times then 🙄

abstract gate
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Mega miner and a SLB? I rate today’s events 4 Steaming Scopely’s: 💩💩💩💩

pale cobalt
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I don't have a hijacked ship so don't know if those are calculated correctly or not

broken rune
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The really issue Is that jokes called rewards

pale cobalt
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Just looked at rewards wow they are terrible

fathom raven
modern estuary
fathom raven
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Nice job, Jokely

pale cobalt
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@fathom raven you get one extra steel token compared to what I get 🤣

fathom raven
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Lol

modern estuary
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begining to think the event manager walked out on scopely and the CFO is creating the events now

agile pecan
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monkey at the keyboard trying to write Shakespeare

pale cobalt
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Oh I don't have the 5 x 100k steel tokens so a total 1.5m more steel then I get lol

broken rune
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They Just recycled old stuff without even check the rewards

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Sorry also goals since G4 doesnt count 🙈

prisma moth
tacit radish
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yeah... C2A is an epic fail...

broken rune
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Both 3 events 🙈🐽

pale cobalt
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Shockingly bad

broken rune
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After 2 days of domination i Would add...

fathom raven
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Looks similar to mine. Only difference is my buildings and research run 6B and 100M respectively!

broken rune
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If It wasn't for Apex would be Better a week shield and goodbye

pale cobalt
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Ops 38 is exactly the same rewards as ops 43

mild bluff
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rewards are crap as last year scopely dont work on anything oohh wait just on pack in store

broken rune
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Yes on Packs they are the best, never forgot One 🙈

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Too bad for prices... This Is the most expensive game ever..

pale cobalt
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EA isn't far behind on the expensive scale

exotic plover
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Why no G4 on mega-miner event?

fathom raven
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They also neglected to include g4. Thanks for resurrecting a dead and irrelevant event, Jokely.

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@exotic plover because this event was from 2018

broken rune
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Was Better another stupid latinum rush 🙈

pale cobalt
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At least Lat Rush has better rewards

abstract gate
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I thought they were gonna make SLBs more doable. A 33 on the same lb as 39s is NOT doable...

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I’m upgrading my rating for today’s events to 6 Steaming Scopely’s. 💩💩💩💩💩💩

solar veldt
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The description on the leaderboard says raid or mine more than any player to win massive rewards. There is no way the leaders have mined their way to the top.

winged tulip
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the rewards aren't massive either so it's all good

broken rune
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Who cares rewards are 💩

abstract gate
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Rewards are always 💩, but us FTPs need every bit we can get...

broken rune
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I agree but this time are pointless not even 💩

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Is like don't give a reward at all

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Pointless like resource generators

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And Like most Mission rewards

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Not wasting time on them

warped stag
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Is there a reason g4 is not a recognised material type? Is it as the event is from old?

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broken rune
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Talking about this and rewards... Not even an answer from Them this time

south arrow
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Is anyone surprised scopley put out an event they haven’t run in a year without bothering to even look at it ?

nova valley
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first, no content to "prep" for next arc isn't new. lol they've always been somewhat quiet about the next arc. that's not new.
but clearly the events haven't been udpated since the last time they ran (a year ago?) so that lends itself to, was this event supposed to run at all. we're tryign to find out.

severe bridge
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I like call to arms and it's been a LOOONG time since we have had it. So long, i think Scopely forgot that we have players 40+, so maybe you forgot to have level brackets??? Cause its pretty hard to compete with those players. <@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056>

ember walrus
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Sure as a 31 i can compete with a 43 i guess.

broken rune
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Yes use the Force!

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No thats star wars

severe bridge
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The event also doesn't include 4*.

sly oracle
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When comes New battlepass?

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Maybe some special rewards in battlepass

severe bridge
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people theorize that it will come the next Tuesday, but no one knows for sure cause they don't announce that

broken rune
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Next week maybe

sly oracle
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I know Not New arc, and dont need New arc but need uc rewards from battlepass 🤣

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Maybe mixed battlepass this time to get oder stuff for free for New players

abstract gate
sly oracle
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I know just a try 🤣

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*older Not oder

pale cobalt
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The event store at the end of the content releases is for the older stuff for newer players, battlepass is just for that content release

sly oracle
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But not everyone need every month New content

pale cobalt
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And no we don't want new content straight away new content equals more lag and more bugs

sly oracle
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Example i need some bp's from Baby jelly and sacrophag

pale cobalt
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Those will be in the event store

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Scopely have already said the coffin will be available for free in events soon

sly oracle
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Than they should add Tokens for Event store in battlepass

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All is better but no battlepass is boring

pale cobalt
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No battlepass equals saving up/restocking for the content auction events

modern estuary
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scopely have been unusually quiet since xmas

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all the work on improving communication seems to gone out the window

scenic pawn
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anyone else showing their Call-to-arms ALB is only 6 more hours while the SLB is a full day?

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is that... typical?

pale cobalt
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Call to Arms ALB refreshes 2 or 3 times during the event

shrewd totem
nova valley
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if typical means the event hasnt run in over 13 months, lol thennnnn yes. LOL

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dunno that typical works. but maybe, TYPICAL OF this event? lol man i miss this event. i'm raiding just for the heck of it. lol i just picked up 47ksteel off someone. 47k. worth it LOL

sharp hedge
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<@&509691205798592532> What is Scopely expecting a mid 40s player to do with this? I can’t plant a flower or buff a scratch out of a ship with this... 🙈

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broken rune
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That not worth for everyone over 30 not Just 40, i'm 40 and very frustrated about last events... But today One beat all

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Just seen last revdeuce video about weekly and monthly rewards, that would be a start, but not yet enough

tepid agate
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Scopely needs to add 39+ specific content. Plain and simple. Enough are there now, time to take a look at it @pearl ruin @toxic urchin <@&509690795536941056>

nova valley
tepid agate
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Armadas is a good start

sharp hedge
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All of the events today seem to be geared towards low level players.

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Armadas don’t provide challenge anymore with exception to the 45 epic eclipse. I would be curios if any server can 1 shot those with 6 Stellas.

tepid agate
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we need armadas post 40 to upgrade the ACC post 39

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we need post 39 specific events that pay out proper rewards

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i am still baffled that swarm sunday pays out less khan shards post 40

broken rune
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Ty @nova valley

sharp hedge
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I don’t understand why lvl 45+ hostiles drop lvl 28 - 32 ship blueprints. I am never going to build the ships even for scrap. All blueprint drops should be equivalent to the level of hostile they come from.

nova valley
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been screaming that for over a year @sharp hedge even a 4-5 level disparity, fine. but not 15. i think level 39-40shoudl be droppiong g3 epic bps.

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and that would at least ALLOW a sally player to TRY to grind theship. may take forever. but it's a possible path.

agile pecan
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I could see 40+ but 39's are still fairly easy

worthy roost
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Why don't the Call to Arms and the Mega Miner include G4 materials?
Latinum? Copied some old code and forgot about the new stuff?

robust vapor
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Old event, more likely forgot to update it.

graceful shard
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Yes these events clearly have not been rebalanced in 6-12 months. The mining one has the same goal as mining Monday with 1/10 the reward

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Maybe they are super busy fixing all the broke stuff

deft wind
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Lvl 14's sitting on two zero node 3* ore mines... during a mining event. SMH

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Can't select them to message them, and their alliance isn't in the top 100 to find by alliance. Talk about mineblocked... heh

frozen plinth
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Mining event where you mine raw 2* and 3* but ignore 4*? Why?

fathom raven
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Because they resurrected an event from 2018.

granite zenith
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you should be able to click their name in the "you are too high to hit" screen

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at least you used to could @deft wind

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yeah... still works for me

deft wind
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Uhhh, it doesn't show the name for me

granite zenith
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ah... on a mine... gotcha

agile pecan
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can you side arrow to get to the ship and click on the name there?

deft wind
agile pecan
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darn

deft wind
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It's fine, I posted coords in GC, someone will pop'em

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😋

gilded wharf
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Should that k be a m?

amber prism
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For Dil? Nope

jolly gull
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Why does the Call to Arms LB finish in 55mins?...Can't be right!

nova valley
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3 8 hour cycles.

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this is a very old event LOL

desert laurel
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does the alb restart? the slb and ms seem to be 24h

earnest hornet
stone grail
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Those were the days

modern estuary
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eu-139 CTA alb just finished 7 hours early

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we placed 2nd and got prizes but still

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on eu-152 its still active

glossy vault
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Your late events fuct meows today.. thanks a lot losers of scopely

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I always win a raiding event.. NOT WHEN I'M 7 HRS LATE BC THERE WERE NO EVENTS...SMH

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U suk and U know it scopely eats turkeys for breakfast

granite zenith
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ok... are the fonts weird for anyone else... or is it just me and the web client?

glossy vault
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@granite zenith
Ur font looks funny

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(Meows font looks like all the other fonts).... absolutely not normal.. purrr usually...😹 💩 🤪

earnest hornet
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The raiding ALB is in 8hr blocks

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So the first one finished an hour ago the second has started

glossy vault
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@earnest hornet
Uh.. the raiding one.. the mining one.. anything aside from daily and apex.. was not there at noon.. nor noon 36.. blargh... u dingus?

earnest hornet
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They they all were there at event reset 9 hours ago for us,

glossy vault
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So I gato drinkt and smokt and meow is so fuct up I am going to either kix arse or louse behind YARRRGH!

earnest hornet
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All events have been there.

glossy vault
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No. Not on time

earnest hornet
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Unless something went wrong for your server

glossy vault
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Omg there's even a notice ab it but of course I don't allow discord to bother me with that

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After the fact anymeow. Gtfo arse wipes

earnest hornet
heavy cradle
glossy vault
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@earnest hornet
Yeah that was a joke the last event delay notice is from nye ..smh😩 💩

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But todays were delayed by at least an hour eastern time.. usually noon.. i log in noon .. just apex and daily.. i log in noon 40.. just apex and daily.. i log in 8pm.. a shart ton events.. errmeows grrrrrrrds..

nova valley
humble thorn
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Gotta love Yuki and tpring shards after maxing them...

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Next cta in one year guys. eyetwitch

astral forum
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Are you f**** serious? What is that, flashback from past year? C'mon i think EVERYONE have T'Pring maxed! And for ops41 15mil para tokens is NOTHING! When you turn imagination on and do something new and not credit card event then i maybe return in game. You suck! @SCROGELY

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waxen plover
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Hey there must be events for newer players. Not everyone has Yuki and Tpring maxed! I think that Event is not for older players. But with 15 mil parsteel you are right. Thats a joke.....

bitter snow
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It's because people have been talking about CtA and Mega Mining in discord lately I think, but not sure if that was a request for it to come back or just a "Hey, remember these?"... so they chucked them on the queue without any changes

sudden depot
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It’s 2019 rewards. They forgot to update them

bitter snow
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I don't think they forgot... I think they just didn't 🙂

sudden depot
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🤬

bitter snow
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Basically the devs are trying to get stuff under the wire for next week, so needed low effort entertainment for the masses 🙂

dapper drum
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because its also an open bracket SLB

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with raiding mechanics anyone within your PvP banding is raidable even if you can't crack them someone else can for you easy

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and if you are really in the mood PvP banding doesn't matter if you go into someones territory

remote fulcrum
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@twilit imp I notice the legacy alliance events rewards don't seem to scale. i.e. Domination, Lat Rush, Call to Arms, the rewards are barely worth the effort for a leadership team to rally the troops. The newer events seem to have reasonable rewards which also scale with member level which makes more sense to me. Any thoughts on adjusting the legacy ones to be more appropriate?

dapper drum
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bring back ship XP event

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get rid of research by power event

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give research by mat

heavy cradle
waxen plover
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Me ^^

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for starters ^^

bitter snow
abstract gate
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<sarcasm> can’t imagine what ships and buildings to Throw away those huge tokens on .. it way too much this time and too little mining / raiding effort </sarcasm>

ocean heron
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regards. Does anyone know by chance at which levels the Battle Pass rewards change?

bitter snow
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Even levels definitely, until up to 34, not sure past that yet

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difficulty for the events also increases, so don't race too far ahead

pale steppe
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I'm just wondering when the battle pass event will return, I assume next week?

bitter snow
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20 is the frist point you get g3, as well

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My guess is Tuesday, but nothing announced yet

keen ledge
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January events and arcs (including the battlepass) are usually a little delayed compared to other months due to the holidays. But soon.

bitter snow
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Imagine we'll hear about maintenance on Monday 🙂

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Going on the comment from (I think it was DJ) that's in pinned posts, sounds like the last few days are being chucked in quick and easy so that devs can concentrate on getting something in for a deadline

pale steppe
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Cool. bc the dailies are something to do but... 🙄

bitter snow
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pinned in general, that is

rough frost
hushed pagoda
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Call to arms again😬 There's no one left to raid😂

crisp current
manic hamlet
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For me, call to arms seems stupid. Mega miner does as well. When they actually allow points for 3* opc materials hunting and mining (how latinum rush should be!) I'll call it an event

quaint pecan
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Gotta love a multi billion base raid that crosses into two raiding events

abstract gate
sudden depot
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I’ll help you Captain Slow

merry cosmos
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I like the team spirit...😉😂😂

hushed pagoda
astral forum
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Call of arms, jeeee!!! Scrogely share shields 4+8+12h for each player, who can you raid? Only few stupid players who forgot to shield? This game really sucks

sage widget
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My favorite are the alliances that boot players just to raid them for points

shrewd totem
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🤣

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Then shield up and eat your popcorn rather than trying to kill a T6 Ent with T4 😛

tepid agate
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For yuki and nero, 3 day was activated yesterday and other things occupied time..

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Ships collecting dust in mothballs atm

thorny heath
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Omg noone to raid in our server. Please we need fresh blood 😈

reef stratus
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Does anyone know What ops do the battle-pass rewards change ?

fleet parcel
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Call to arms... everyone is out of rss to give...

hollow fossil
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start mining some

daring edge
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Where can I find the monthly event calander? Why you guys don't post it in the main announcements?

astral forum
earnest hornet
earnest hornet
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I’m guessing you bought the shield pack?

astral forum
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Never purchased shield packs

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I don't know

earnest hornet
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Wow, 😳

astral forum
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30d shield only in shield pack

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Maybe from events or gifts... don't know, really

simple venture
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When will be the next major event to come?

astral forum
simple venture
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Lol

vital drum
merry fulcrum
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Scopely says no

late plover
sudden depot
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Nice! It has great rewards.

fathom shuttle
burnt trail
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Oh I'd be mad....

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Only have 13 harrison...I'm never getting him

nova valley
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one day. thoon

willow pine
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false start

nova valley
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or is it?

short gorge
nova valley
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sooooooooooooon

winged tulip
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3 day crucible takes us to new arc on Tuesday i guess!

upbeat kestrel
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Any news on nect Bpass & Arc start date?

nova valley
rapid dagger
spare isle
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Hi. Why Hijacked Ships are not in the list for points scoring in Ships Upgrade in Crucible of War??

simple venture
spare isle
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Yep🤣

chilly venture
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There is now no point difference between G3 and G4, is it intended ?

warped stag
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@chilly venture the quantity of g4 is higher over g3 requirements.

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Using g4 would give you more points in total.

chilly venture
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But weren't the points given for the events before differing between the two ?

grim river
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WTF is this event? you need to buy 22 packs for 100 bucks to get to the 1st milestone are you high>?

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uneven wave
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Or just kill hostile like it says

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@grim river look at your solo event, you earn gold trophies for alliance event

warped stag
grim river
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yeah but u get 250*30 its nothing

chilly venture
grim river
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realistically most players will attack 35-37 in augment for best results with semi weak ships so you get like 29 points for using sally and 1 point for killing ship itself. Entire ally would need to farm 20h a day for 3d to get to the second milestone

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kinda agree only when your ally is big and strong enough, well its possible

zenith edge
#

where is the monthly event calendar to be found at?

pale cobalt
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There isn't one

static wigeon
#

What happened to the crystal pull in COW??

warped stag
static wigeon
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🤔

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Got it now, thanks @warped stag

hollow nymph
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Yo

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How the hell do I get silver trophies

delicate moth
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Packs 😬

hollow nymph
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@delicate moth no f2p?

delicate moth
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I could be wrong, but I don't think so

winged tulip
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Not needed to complete event, and poor pack value anyway imo

hollow nymph
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Well sadlife for me.

winged tulip
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anything you could get from silver trophy chests you could buy more of directly from store

hollow nymph
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Well thanks for the info@delicate moth @winged tulip

void cosmos
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Dear Scopely, when did the Stella stop being a warship? Asking because if it was a warship it would be included in the Crucible event.

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It’s called laziness and sloppiness and what we expect from Scopely, ps let’s not forget the disco or Sarcophagus

earnest hornet
void cosmos
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Games evolve. You know things like The 3 point shot, the designated hitter, the forward pass? Not part of the original versions of their games

nova valley
void cosmos
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I will post as I see fit and you may either be an adult or begone

nova valley
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YOU BEGONE!

agile flame
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major faction to be create with same chateristics as fed rom and klingon:

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ex-borgs
dominium
tolans
ferengi
cardasians

neat garden
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cardashians 🤣

warm bobcat
# neat garden cardashians 🤣

They could do the design on your ships, as long as you don't mind some extra plastic on the rear of your ship and in the nacells

swift sage
nova valley
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vidar was the earliest one of the year. it's been the latest ship to be added.

earnest hornet
# nova valley YOU BEGONE!

😂😂😂 what? DJ be an adult? Obviously hasn’t listened to your late night podcasts 😂😂😂

robust vapor
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Stella should not be included in the event for tiering anyway..

serene pecan
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@void cosmos the sarc is a single purpose, 30 minute, warship. Nothing else. PERIOD. SCOPELY never misled any of us about it or it's purpose. The same goes for DISCOVERY, even in the TV series, it's a single purpose ship. In this game it just so happens to have 2 valuable purposes, just not for higher level players.

upbeat kestrel
serene pecan
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@upbeat kestrel I just wish people would stop "King Making" b4 SCOPELY finds the time recognize the disruptive nature of doing it to game play...the least of which, it creates game lag in TC.

tawny olive
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Seeing CoW does that mean Tuesday we'll get the next Arc?

upbeat kestrel
serene pecan
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@upbeat kestrel I am not sure if I should be happy or sad that a player doesn't know the term "King Making"...Re: Takeovers

granite zenith
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well....
seeing as how a search of the entire discord renders a result of the term "King Making" exactly 3 times

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and all by you
how WOULD anyone else know what you were referring to?

void cosmos
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Or perhaps you could simply answer the question

abstract gate
upbeat kestrel
serene pecan
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@upbeat kestrel I apologize.

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@granite zenith I used that term, because @zealous patio invited me to this particular DISCORD in regards to that very subject. When all I want is for people to play the game: As designed and pursuant to rules that have never waivered. Game lag is horrendous during Takeover Events and it need not be if the rules were obeyed. The subject of ship use in the game came up, there is no need to change anything. To each thing it's purpose and each purpose it's things. (Eg. SARCOPHAGUS, Discovery etc.)

granite zenith
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what "rules" are being disobeyed?

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and where are those said "rules" listed?

serene pecan
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@granite zenith

interesting that is all you got out if what I typed. Okay, one at a time on this one:

  1. TAKEOVERS: Each alliance is required to pay to play...it costs resources, hard earned resources to participate.
abstract gate
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This is gonna get good

granite zenith
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and where is that rule listed?

abstract gate
serene pecan
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@granite zenith Are you kidding? You're kidding me right? Click on a territory and try to win the space, or lose it for that matter, without paying to enter.

granite zenith
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that is not what you said... you said pay to play... not pay to win... there is a difference

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in fact since im pretty sure what hill you are choosing to die on... i will direct you to Scopley's own Blog about Takeovers.. from here
https://startrekfleetcommand.scopely.com/2020/11/07/territory-capture-takeover/

Star Trek Fleet Command
startrek
Territory Capture - Takeover - Star Trek Fleet Command

Commanders, Following up from our Territory Capture Update, we wanted to share with you more, in-depth information. In this article, we will be discussing the concept of a Takeover. There are 2 main parts to Territory Capture: taking over a territory and owning one. Origin Sector is the new territory on the Galaxy map where […]

serene pecan
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@granite zenith okay, so you don't think winning or losing resources that some people actually paid for (look at the store) is paying or playing

granite zenith
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thus... fighting in someone else's takeover is allowed as per scopely themselves

hollow fossil
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i love the splitting of hairs

hollow fossil
serene pecan
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@granite zenith I may truly be in the minority here.

granite zenith
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i know exactly how they were designed
and i know how people are playing
BUT
the discussion here is that players are breaking the "rules" when in fact... at this time there is no rule there to break
IF they (scopley) chooses to create a rule that you have to pay to fight... thats a completely different conversation altogether

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"rules" as you term it, are hard coded into the game design.. such as...
YOU MUST get onto the board at a 1 star territory
or
YOU MUST have a warp path adjacent in order to attempt to takeover a system

hollow fossil
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good, then i hope that happens on Tuesday to bring the game back to the original design on territories

serene pecan
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I've read all the matts on the subject. So, let's just remove all programmed restrictions then. Alliance size, player level, 8 hour cool down....heck, "Cry havoc and let lose the dogs of war"...sure, and then blane SCOPELY for game lag...yes, that's it, it can't be our fault, it has to be their fault.

abstract gate
granite zenith
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it most definately IS scopely's fault that the server cannot read and respond to the clients (multiple) sends and requests
and SCOPELY THEMSELVES have admitted that
it happens ANYTIME there are multiple actors doing multiple clicks
a mining event in yarda
during armada events
during a hostile hunt
during anomoly events

serene pecan
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We bare responsibility in this. But, I can see we will have to agree to disagree.

abstract gate
serene pecan
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I play a mix of f2p and p2p. The things I pay for have more team benefit than self...but, I still want the majority to enjoy the game, it's not only about me.

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@abstract gate you read what you wanted out if that, and you know it.

abstract gate
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Huh? You cannot be a mix of f2p and p2p

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Once you pay you are p2p

serene pecan
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Gee, then literally everybody is p2p...

abstract gate
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Nope not true

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I haven’t spent a penny on this game

serene pecan
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Then, by your logic, not mine, that makes me more of a customer to SCOPELY than you...

abstract gate
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Ok? So by your logic I’m not allowed to join territory capture because I don’t spend

robust vapor
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Go complain to customer service, see what the Scopely response is to their paying customer 🤷‍♂️

serene pecan
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Sort of, territories are an alliance thing, not individual. The alliance pays.

abstract gate
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Next you’ll tell me I cannot be in an alliance

sour vapor
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Anyone else having issues with the top alliances banding together and forcing everyone else out of territories? We have small almost inactive alliances holding multi territories cause a bunch of high lvl players have basically said join us or you are out...they have dictated insane no hitting over cap or zero nodes...it’s making the game really toxic

serene pecan
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Actually @zealous patio has been quite receptive to my opportunities and concerns. And, while their wheels are square and turn at the speed of molasses in January and I literally will depart this Earth faster than some will come to fruition, they do respond and some have already changed. Enter the SARCOPHAGUS.

abstract gate
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I have 3 Emmy awards for ‘technical team remote’

serene pecan
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@abstract gate actually, SCOPELY does, not I. There are limits to Alluance size, subject to the cool down rule. And, I know for a cold hard fact several disruptive players that were removed from the game entirely for being....wait for it...disruptive.

abstract gate
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Scopely does what?

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Also unless those players broke scopely’s TOS they cannot be removed for being ‘disruptive’

serene pecan
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@abstract gate, I do the following by choice, because I'm not paid by or affiliated with SCOPELY in any way.

My name is Ron, I live in Gun Barrel City Texas. My handle comes from having been an Army SF Nurse. I really do have leukemia (thanks to the Army), I have 2 chihuahuas and my wife is also a disabled veteran.

frosty remnant
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Came here to YEET this dude off the channel

abstract gate
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I live out your way. I once bought a go kart in gun barrel city

serene pecan
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If that's true, then you know it's a pretty nice place on a pretty nice lake. I came here after escaping the PRC (People's Republic of Kalifornia) born and raised in that beautiful slice of land. Texas is just more real and far less cost prohibitive.

abstract gate
serene pecan
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Then I know that you are capable of reason, because my wife (born and raised at Ft. Hood) is real people and the majority of Texans are real down to Earth quality people with outstanding BBQ and TexMex.

earnest hornet
serene pecan
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Interesting, if you actually read what I said, rather than what you chose to read, you would have noticed that I said I am not from here. And, I've been literally everywhere, including the former USSR, and every continent including Antarctica. I chose to compliment citizens of Texas and you turned that into a bad thing...my best friend in this entire world, and last remaining member of my SF team still lives in Deutschland.
@earnest hornet please look for the positive in people's words, not what you presume is a negative.

earnest hornet
serene pecan
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What I've learned, is that given the opportunity, most people are open and friendly...

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@earnest hornet you're doing it again. He was mentioning those warships as an example, not the rule.

vital drum
#

The lag is definitely deliberate.

Its kind of a fog of war effect, designed to prevent f2p players from defending or attacking whales. Plonk a sarcophagus on a node, throw in a few hundred players and the server crashes. When it's all clear the whale alliance have achieved what they wanted.

The more you pay, the less lag you receive too. No whales ever complain of lag. That's for the little fishies.

Territories really are working as expected. When new material rolls out and attention goes elsewhere, the lag will be fixed in an update. Et voila.

earnest hornet
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not true, Lag isn't deliberate, unfortunately its not as simple as a flick of a switch to fix it,

vital drum
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It will be fixed soon. Amazon is kicking all right wing media off its servers, which will allow them to give the excess capacity away for cheap 🤣🤣🤣

earnest hornet
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hahaha yes, i would say something but not gonna spark that current TRUMPeting issue 😄 hahaa

merry fulcrum
heavy cradle
# serene pecan What I've learned, is that given the opportunity, most people are open and frien...

I've learned quite the opposite. Human nature is to be self-serving and manipulative to those ends. Folks will be nice, in general, only when it benefits them directly. Thus when encouraged to be nice by rules or by force.

Thus what people that give up their lives for another, or truly give of themselves are so revered in culture. it 100% goes against standard human nature, and mob tendencies.

heavy cradle
# granite zenith it most definately IS scopely's fault that the server cannot read and respond to...

agreed. Some of this is the nature of multiple client updates, as you see issues in other massively player games, including World of Warcraft. This is why limits are put on raids, and why things like instancing and phasing were such a huge leap (and nightmare) when introduced.

Just making it where only the invading/defending team members can enter the system during a takeover would completely change the dynamic of TC, and put it back online with what the developers intended. Maybe just have the warp paths to those systems lock during takeover unless you have bought in?

novel venture
#

Everytime World of Warcraft had significant lag issues Blizzard regularly posted that they were sorry, were doing things, and then actually did things to fix it, whilst continuing to post updates. So basically the same as what Scopley does...

abstract gate
# heavy cradle agreed. Some of this is the nature of multiple client updates, as you see issue...

Honestly I dont know why they have not done this. It would be so much more fun and there is more startegy involved when your allies and coalition helps in territory, but lets face it, LAG takes away a lot from that.
Just make alliance defeding and attacking only ones who can participate in takeover and LAG is gone.
Also, I hope they make cooldowns on joining another alliance after leaving one to minimum of 24 hours.

heavy cradle
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our strategy is to create lag up front, to control the systems. Once you lag/lock them out, it's a numbers game.

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the cooldowns between alliances is crazy stupid, at least to rejoin. should be 1 hour max, not 8 hours. I get that it's to get around an exploit on helps, but seriously just fix the help system.

abstract gate
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And just fly with kehras, realtas, vidars and d3

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And I am actually on opositte side on alliance hopping thing...for me exploiting for helps feels like cheating and as our server now has majority f2p and small spenders reaching high 30 (35+) it just became jump fest of alliances

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Build times are becoming outrageous for most (even though they should expect 5X build times soon as they grow) so they just jump all day everyday for helps

heavy cradle
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Bigger problem right now is that you can jump through alliances to pick up particles every 22 hours. With the nature of TC, it's actually easier to do this than to keep fighting or moving around, especially if you have a good diplomacy between alliances.

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TC seriously needs to be rebalanced. How this didn't come out on playtesting and/or community discussion is beyond me. Day 1 of these features these issues were already exploited, and known well before it started. I can't fathom that folks like @granite zenith and @nova valley didn't know and point out the flaws as soon as it was shown to them under NDA.

Locking out 80% of your playerbase from core content is always a bad idea. Examples of major Quality of Life changes.

  • make the base buffs free for everyone, such that you can get 20, 50, or whatever each day from refined isogen no matter the TC you have. Then make the TC buffs lower the cost and increase the amounts.

*make the TCs fully reset, such that for 1 week you have no TCs between battlepasses (like now). Give the servers a rest, and forcing everyone to vacate the territories. Thus Battlepasses also become TC seasons.

*make it where the warp paths into a system are locked during a takeover, and you have to buy them (by buying into the takeover) to combat. Thus the two combatants square off. Alternatively, make it where you have multiple TCs going at once.

*rotate the TC timers throughout the day better. Making it always the same time for the same territory is kinda crappy and repetitive.

*fix diplomacy such that you can allow allies/friends to mine in your territory if you wish. This alternatively is a way to fix the buffs, that allies and friendlies can get the mat buff (at a reduced effectiveness) from their diplomacy.

polar bough
tepid agate
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make it so only contestants in the takeover can be in the zone. many problems fixed with one simple solution. Make a fleet earn it the right way, not have coalitions deciding who gets what.

pale cobalt
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Speaking for an alliance of 6 members with 2 zones the last takeover for our territory we would have lost if not for help from friends, so I'm all for allowing alliances to help when needed it turned out to be a good battle 4 alliances against 4

heavy cradle
tepid agate
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putting random timers on zones and having multiple zones popping off same time will help with the hopping

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make wars on randomizers for the day

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never the same 2x

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now folks will think 2x about hopping and when

shrewd totem
tepid agate
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BATS!!!! shshshshhhhsssshhhhhhh - thats too simple

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we need to make it complex for the devs to grasp it

shrewd totem
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😂

tepid agate
#

but yeah, 24 hour cooldown on fleet anadonment is a fantastic idea

shrewd totem
#

it is basically the system from Eve Echoes

tepid agate
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24 hour cool down to rejoin a fleet
random daily take over timers
multiple zones in contention at same time

nova valley
#

I also don’t understand where the 80% statistic comes from lol

Most servers, MOST, certainly not all, have between 1k and 1.5k players. At the MINIMUM the top 15 teams have territories. Assuming they’re rosters are full and assuming low alliance level at 70 players thats 1050 players.

Most alliances have more than 70 slots. Some servers have more alliances on the map. Some servers have stragglers in 5 man alliances BY CHOICE. TC by design allows up to 80% of the server to obtain the particles. Not 80% exclusion. Sorry @heavy cradle we don’t see eye to eye on this one.

tepid agate
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unless coalitions have fleets with only 10 members in a zone, because they push a fleet of 40 or 50 out

nova valley
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HOWEVER. don’t disagree on takeover times. Or even service shuffling. And definitely on locking alliance cool down rejoins. I actually PROPOSED 72 hour rejoins. It was rejected

tepid agate
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it happens

heavy cradle
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so we have 150 people, lets say, out of 1,500, that can do the first 2 tiers of research today.

nova valley
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Challenging. Not impossible. And teaming up with other alliances has become necessary. Alliances trying it solo aren’t gonna be successful.

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But that’s been the message for the last 60 days.

heavy cradle
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We've had 3 successful invasions of a sitting territory, without the other alliance agreeing to give up the space, in 60 days.

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we've had huge coalitions of players (200+ players strong) get punted.

nova valley
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Well that’s proof positive that it’s possible lol

heavy cradle
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with the server issues, punting another alliance requires taking them by surprise with an overwhelming force

nova valley
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It’s not supposed to be easy if you wanna have all 4 particles. That’s the top prize. First place.

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Lag definitely places a technical hurdle in that and I agree. 1000000%.

heavy cradle
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oh, the "magic territory" is absolutely top prize. Having seasons where they punt everyone out and make you go back at it would be ideal.

abstract gate
pale cobalt
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My alliance has taken a very different tactic we hold a T1 and a T2 for Surax particles once all of us have enough to do all the researches we are then moving to a Zone for Phantom particles for the next set of researches, don't need to get all 3 particles straight away

heavy cradle
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because right now, if you manage to get one, it's increasingly hard to punt you.

nova valley
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@heavy cradle very good idea. And MAYBE one that’s already been discussed 😉

azure vault
#

someone sees the Discovery event I saw it and I no longer see it

heavy cradle
abstract gate
#

Yes @azure vault was active and then pulled back at last moment...probanly to change prizes

azure vault
nova valley
tepid agate
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yes, the problem is when the top 10 alliances all work in concert with one another to deny anyone thery want a zone.

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having allies is great, but unfortunatly most servers all had that established beforehand

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and now through poor implementation of mechanics, it is abused on almost every server

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i was excited for TC, i lost interest in week 2

pale cobalt
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We had a fight on Friday which we wasn't expecting but turned out to be quite good fun we didn't know how many friends we actually had until the battle started 😂

heavy cradle
tepid agate
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no territory map has shifted much at all since release. it is sad

heavy cradle
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6 alliances have 5 territories. Most of the rest pick up scraps as handed out.

tepid agate
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my server has 1 empty zone that the conglomerate just wont give to anyone else

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its is funny to watch

heavy cradle
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12 alliances are stuck to a single territory/particle right now.

tepid agate
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needless to say I have been a pirate rogue since week 2 of territory. way more fun

heavy cradle
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that said, we had one alliance drop a territory because they couldn't afford the buffs any longer.

nova valley
tepid agate
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on my server one alliance is comnprised of 3 fleets

heavy cradle
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yup, and those other alliances get the scraps as they are "allowed".

tepid agate
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they own 15 zones

nova valley
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Lol sounds like your server has some complicated politics. That have nothing to do with the mechanics of TC.

tepid agate
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aye indeed.

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but with some simple changes, that cant happen as much anymore

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and actual contests will be had

nova valley
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I love ya bro. I do. But being “allowed” to be on the map is not a scopely mechianic technically

tepid agate
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no one should be allowed

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you got to earn it

nova valley
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But. All things said. I don’t disagree with some mechanics changes.

tepid agate
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but it is being exploited the way it set up right now

nova valley
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I just don’t think tc was designed poorly. People have made it what it is. And it’s not bad everywhere.

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My server has 17 alliances on the map. 14 of those have 2+ territories. The lowest ranked alliance by power on the map is 20th. It’s definitely possible

tepid agate
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3 simple changes
24 hour cooldown on fleet hop (player based, not fleet based)
daily randomized zone takeover timers
multiple takeovers can happen at same time

nova valley
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But not easy. Very difficult. As it should be for the particles which give the best research in the game to date.

heavy cradle
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and not designed poorly, but not properly playtested and vetted against a very creative playerbase.

nova valley
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It’s not a freebie. Gotta earn it. Or shift up. Alliances should be working together/merging or olayers should be moving upwards to improve their placement. Being on the dolphins does have the same rewards as playing for the packers.

heavy cradle
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they can easily get most players that they know can point out flaws/loopholes to work with them to help make sure that the content is played the way they want it to, and not just cheesed.

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that is their decision on the development process

nova valley
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But I don’t agree that EVERYONE should get the “payout” for not performing.

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Why should they?

heavy cradle
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the payout should be in speed/ability.

nova valley
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Should everyone get free epic armada chests every week if they don’t do armadas?

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What about free relo tokens if they don’t earn the alliance credits?

heavy cradle
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and our playerbase has suffered from it. We've seen a massive decline in players in the past 60 days.

heavy cradle
winged tulip
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Randomised takeover times would suck. This is a game not a job, let people plan when they need to play.

tepid agate
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i have an even better ez fix
add more zones 😛

heavy cradle
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like, I get them from killing reds. I get them in my 10 minute chests. I get them here and there, I get them everywhere.

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saying "the only way to do this research is to stop playing with friends and go into an alliance that wants to do hardcore TC" was a bad play.

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the stella research has been widely adopted and liked. It is accessable to everyone, although a good alliance makes it easier.

tepid agate
nova valley
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Again blu be careful with your statistics. You claimed 80% of players are locked from particles. Not true. Point of fact 89% of eligible players have access to 1+ particles. EIGHTY NINE PERCENT. That’s pretty stout.

Point of fact, player engagement over the last 60 days is 7% higher than it was in the outlaw arcs (based on 24 hour login periods)

heavy cradle
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the TC research is locked out. You fight for scraps if you can't get into a "top tier" alliance, and deal with all the drama that goes with it.

pale cobalt
heavy cradle
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and the fact that 1 particle does NOT equal "access" is bunk. I can't trade phantom for surax. without surax, I'm locked out.

tepid agate
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i dont give 2 pahooties about particles!! fyi, I am talking about making TC more enjoyable and worth doing..

heavy cradle
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again, stella research is a good example of how to make it accessible to all, but rewarding to those putting in the effort.

nova valley
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Stats can lie is kinda a silly statement. If more people are in thrn before then more people play. Lol

heavy cradle
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TC research is NOT.

tepid agate
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i just like making space debris

nova valley
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If 89% of players have access to particles that means 89% of players own at least one territory. Meaning they are on the map.

heavy cradle
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access to A particle is not access TO particles (plural)

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unless getting on the map gets you a way to move towards the rest you need, it's a bad statistic.

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again, just make a base amount cost more/get less per day/week.

nova valley
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So you do it one particle at a time.

heavy cradle
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then EVERYONE that can get iso can eventually get it, just having the magic territory gives you a distinct advantage.

nova valley
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Again. Having all four particles is the prize. And you’re suggesting participation trophies in here. Lol I disagree

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Magic territory?

heavy cradle
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and again, no alliance has successfully moved from one particle to another on my server.

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how many servers is this happening on the regular?

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and is it by diplomacy/feeder alliances, or is it by game design?

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(not saying you are wrong, directly, just pointing out flaws here)

nova valley
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You are asking by definition if there have been “hostile takeovers” on my server? Yes. Multiples. Although ADMITTEDLY the last 2-3 weeks the dust is kinda settling. So I think were due for a service rotation.

heavy cradle
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we've had "some" takeovers, but the map hasn't shifted.

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a new alliance getting in is "big news" on our server

winged tulip
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We've had successful takeovers on ours. Mostly stalemate though.

heavy cradle
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and folks moving on the map hasn't happened.

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so the alliances that are fighting for scraps end up swapping being have/have nots when the top alliances don't get involved to "help defend"

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most folks are just happy to just have what they have, and soak up the buffs. Since the effort to move on the map to the particle(s) you don't have is high, there isn't a push.

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and most players on our server end up dumping out realtas and fortunates to break the server.

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(going to be soft here, because we also have players with their epics out there)

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@median slate - our whales don't bring out the G4s unless they just want to troll, lol. Jellyfish is the name of the game a lot.

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even then, if you have enough friends that send fortunates, the server is junk and you just sit waiting on combat to start for 30-45 minutes.

nova valley
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And one would argue that the use of G2 ships or even G3 ships as compared to G4 ships as part of the strategy and cost effectiveness. I don’t disagree that It could use a modification. But I will argue that it was poorly designed. The players have made it what it is. War is what was intended. Because people are making deals instead of closing the door on diplomacy has nothing to do with how it was designed.

heavy cradle
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and what fun is it to have your G4 or Jellyfish pummeled by Pike, Moraue, Georgiou for 45 minutes?

nova valley
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However I’ve enjoyed the conversation guys. I’ve got a bounce for a little while. haves few things to do today. Catch up with you guys later on.

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PS JUST CKNFIRMED. the Vulcan anomalous event is coming back in a short bit. They had to remove event store loot and put back mycelium. It should be up very shortly.

heavy cradle
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Again, core design isn't bad, but actual playtesting and working with the playerbase on how to make it Fun would have gone a super long way

heavy cradle
nova valley
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Supposed to be recurring weekly. Once a week with our “ration” of refinery credits lol

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We missed it last week I think. But none the less. Should have some regularity to it

heavy cradle
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we have an amazing community here, in general. We have a ton of crazy smart folks that "see the flaws" very quickly. I feel like Digit/Scopely can lean into this and make it where the events are that much better for everyone

tepid agate
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they just need to listen in earnest is all

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some of us have invested some cheese into this game and would like to see it thrive for a long time

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i am on the side of everyone btw. i hate the whale "mentality"

heavy cradle
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I have no problem with whales getting "extras", but it shouldn't be at the expense of the mice.

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then again, I've soapboxed enough here that they need to fix the pay model here, anyway. If they'd introduce a "$5 pack of the day" with random stuff (20 uncommon, 100 TC particles, whatever), they'd probably see their profits soar.

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folks will drop $5 on stupid stuff like boughie coffee without a second thought. To get 20 uncommon, or 5 rare, G3? yeah, ching. Randomize it so you offer 1 thing each day. money

tepid agate
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having a balanced pvp scoring structure works for me

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i have not participated in any of the recent pvp events

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all in protest at how unfair they are

shut raptor
tepid agate
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especially the recent yeet the galaxy for garbage rewards

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the 40+ ops on my server decimated any and everyone

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for yuki

heavy cradle
tepid agate
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i put up a 3 day shield when i saw the rewards

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and did nto log in at all

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i cant imagine how many folks just quit over that garbage

heavy cradle
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players (I'd have to assume whales) have clammored for that specific event for as long as I've been on this discord, though.

shut raptor
heavy cradle
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there are folks that just want to compete on a leaderboard for pvp, regardless of the rewards

tepid agate
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the rewards were from the last time the had it tho, which was over a year ago

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put some effort into it maybe?

heavy cradle
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but it could be 2nd or 3rd based on the playerbase

tepid agate
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the game is not dying

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but it could be thriving much more

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this games population is made up of some wildly successful people. The whales are NOT using mom & dad's credit cards hanging out in the basement. trust me. Some of the ideas I have heard out here were from folks who probably know a thing or 3 about running businesses.

All most of us ask is that Scopely start listening more. Set up a better liaison PR person to communicate with the player base. Ask us questions in a forum and then report back the good ideas to the Devs. As popular as this game is, and as much money as it takes in, the one thing missing most is Communication.

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My honest impression is that Scopely does not have enough people actually playing the game.

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on their own payroll

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Which is why most game companies have folks on payroll who deal with the player base to get ideas.

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And it is usually a 2 way form of communication, so it is known it has been recieved and possibly considered

heavy cradle
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from what I see, Scopely/Digit makes decisions based on player feedback, but it's primarly based on whale feedback, since they pay the bills.

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but it's a chicken/egg thing - they only option they give to for folks to spend at high amounts, then only whales spend.

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what they need is a set of product owners that are in touch with the various segments of their playerbase, and have their focus on how to improve the game from each of these aspects. They need to understand the engagement of each of these segments, and how to make it where they can improve that score and turn a f2p into a $5/mo player, and so forth.

They need devs that are limited to completely f2p, given an in-game budget of X, and one with access to the whale tier.

They need to use the statistics that they can get from the game to understand these segments, and how they are interacting with the game.

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if they can flip a f2p to a $5 a month player, then $5/week, and on up, they can increase profits wildly vs just whale chasing at this point. The base game is good, and they have a rather large if not wildly spread out playerbase. To me it's a no brainer that getting those players to spend just a little more, even if it's just $5 every so often, would be wildly profitable.

tepid agate
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I am a whale, and I approve this message

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(a wildly successful business man in the real world)

sly fossil
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Moby Dick was nice fiction

shut raptor
languid mortar
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Anyone know when the Franklin event will be back?

robust vapor
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@languid mortar haven't seen it in s very long time. You'll want the event stores instead, typically at the end of each of these battlepass arcs (3-4 parts/months) and you'll need 2 complete the set.

orchid halo
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Because unemployed kids and college students living off of allowances playing PC games are exactly the same consimer base as the CEOs, doctors lawyers business owners who play mobile games

orchid halo
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Mobile game reality - a tiny percentage pays the vast majority of revenue...sort of like taxes irl

orchid halo
# tepid agate this games population is made up of some wildly successful people. The whales a...

Correct - in my alliance alone we have about 10 dudes with 7-8 figure net worth...one guy is working on IPO for his company that generates about $200m revenue per year...when u see people in STFC “rage spend” its a sight to behold...20 pack allince rewards popping after a guy loses in battle, “i just took my Ent from T5 to max AC messages,” 100m officer XP SLB (rage SLB spender)

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“Ooh nice trit in this pack” - ding ding ding 10 alliance rewards show up 5 minutes later

tawny olive
abstract gate
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Jelly event gone...????

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@twilit imp

fair light
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The jelly event is not showing in the events section and rebooted twice. Is there an issue? Thoughts

unique lodge
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Free Jelly BP, here we come

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Yeah not showing for me either, s193

mystic dagger
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I just restarted app because anamoly event disappeared suddenly while I was doing it. It's still not showing. Anyone else having same issue? Event store was also kidnapped

stark vector
junior jewel
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missing on all servers.

outer comet
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Event store busted and news is stuck on “retrieving”. Another update cycle started on point

abstract gate
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Game broken again, surprise!!!

rare belfry
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Same on our server

narrow crypt
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Jelly event gone... Just when I was winning it!?! Free Jellys for all???

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(ok, I wasn't winning it!!)

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But still, free Jellys for all!!

granite cedar
abstract gate
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Rumour has it you can unlock Jelly by research in the next arc, meaning everyone need to buy packs

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🤑 🤑

clever bramble
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I don’t know why scopely runs an event if they don’t let everyone finish it? 💩

granite cedar
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@clever bramble People have invested money and aren't getting anything in return.

Scopley: win-win💰 💰 💰

abstract gate
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Those who spend money and rss on event should get a refund lol

pliant skiff
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Server 152 is the same, jelly event and anomaly event have disappeared!
I’ve got a member close to winning the event so please let us know what’s happening?

abstract gate
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Its back 😇😇

pliant skiff
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👍🏻

sand knot
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spend, u foools

heavy cradle
heavy cradle
orchid halo
orchid halo
heavy cradle
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Fortnight is a 100 player fps. Avialable on everything including your fridge i think

orchid halo
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"Fortnite is most popular among players between the ages of 18 – 24, who account for 63% of all Fortnite players. Players between the ages of 25 – 34 represent 22.5% of all players"

heavy cradle
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Cod warzone is a similar formula. 2 of the top gross games cross platform right now.

orchid halo
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those 18-24 year olds...high spenders the lot of them

heavy cradle
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There are a lot of them, and they spend as a group more than youd think.

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Just outta hs/college, first full time jobs, etc.

orchid halo
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the average player of STFC was like late 40s/early 50s

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ie, people at the peak of their lifetime earning potential

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hugely different market

heavy cradle
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Kindof. Traditional tiers are changing as people have children later in life, too.

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And to target one market segment while ignoring all others has always made zero sense to me. Costs nothing to do something like i suggested ($5 random daily pack) and hit on the impulse control of everyone.

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Star Trek still has massive appeal. 2 of my 3 kids (in that 18-24 range) play stfc.

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But they arent going to pay $100 to play, even though their free cash is way more than mine 😂

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Again, get f2p to pay $5. Get $20/mo to spend $40. This is how you can easily grow not only your maket segment, but your cash flow.

fathom shuttle
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@heavy cradle Not a fan of random packs and they get more and more targeted by authorities as gambling.

heavy cradle
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a random pack of the day with a gauranteed payout has never been targeted.

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to my knowledge

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be clear, I'm not saying a pack with random stuff, which are virtual grab bags like you see sold to kids, I'm saying a "today only - get 100 phantom particles for $5."

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that is not gambling by any definition. It's a "deal of the day". Classic "blue light special". Target impulse control. I follow a website that's main purpose is to track these across multiple market segments (not just rich old white man gaming)

fathom shuttle
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Ahhh

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Sry misunderstanding

heavy cradle
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no, I followed ya there. I shouldn't be calling it a random pack, I should be more accurately calling it a "deal of the day" pack.

fathom shuttle
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Thought you meant random in the sense you don't know what you get in advance.
What you actually meant would be awesome.

heavy cradle
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with a different item each day. Considering the number of different items and currency in the game, they have months of possibilities.

minor loom
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Thank you Scopely for a great off-season event calendar. Faction Hunt, apex, Call to Armd and Crucible has been nice. Please keep these as more normal occurrences.

pale cobalt
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Lets just hope all of the faction hunt rewards have now been moved to the battlepass to help offset the insane amount of domination events that they run during a battlepass

shut raptor
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soo whos starting the class action 😋

orchid halo
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another fail class action incoming? sweet

solar otter
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Greetings everyone! Wanted to get info from people in different about their version of RoE.
What does your server do in regards to D'vors during the latinum event. Are they still protected?

wraith roost
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overload is overload...and event gives points for stealing lat

ornate geyser
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in ours, transwarp systems are off limits, but anywhere else, opc is opc, whether its Dvor or any other ship.

pine cedar
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Hi everyone, question - which (recent) event allowed killing Assimilated Ferengi Traders as a point progress option?

pallid flare
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Server 157 Rules of Engagement (ROE):

1: Survey ships are protected under Rules Of Engagement (ROE) and are not to be attacked, unless:
I) The protected cargo limit is exceeded,
II) The mine they are on is an empty mine (A 0 node message must be sent after the node has reached 0 but before any attack)
III) When participating in a base raid.
IV) It is a “Botany Bay” or “D’vor” that is mining a 3* mine or Isogen.

2: Any ship participating in an “Armada” is not to be attacked.

  1. All other ships are NOT protected.

4: If these rules are violated, resolve it with the offender. If the dispute cannot be resolved, contact the alliance diplomat or admiral.

Special Nodes (Latinum and Data):
Any Survey ship not designed for special mining (latinum and data) may be removed from a special mine to be replaced by a Botany Bay on data or a D’vor on latinum.

Special Borg Latinum systems
(Yoria-3/Zed Alpha/Torra Sedra)
D'vors are are not to be attacked while mining, even if they are over their protected cargo limit.
D'vors may be removed if there are no free mines in the system and one of the following applies:
- maximum cargo has been reached (no more mining although the mine is not yet 0)
- the mine is 0
It is recomendet to prove the situation by screenshots.
The Vi'dar is protected as long as it is not mining Latinum.

War declarations: These can only be made by an Admiral (minimum alliance members of 10) and must be backed up by another member of that alliance. Solo players making war declarations are considered to be in a “rogue” state and will gain immediate KOS status.

ROE does not apply during takeovers.

Note: any players or alliances deemed as Kill on Sight (KoS) forfeit the right of protection under the above rules for their actions against these rules.

This is the RoE on server 157

pine cedar
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Discovery on mycelium mine?

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@solar otter no special privileges for DVor on server 25 during the Latinum event. Over protected cargo limit is fair game either way. Token systems are always no-hit.

tame inlet
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Server 192
Roe roe roe your boat gently up the stream.....nah everything dies...no roes.

burnt trail
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Wow...why do so many accept such terrible rules in a game....screw a whole lotta that....

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Opl is opl...I don't care where it is and a floater is a floater....period

hollow fossil
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simple, cause some feel that ANY ship should be killed on sight

burnt trail
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If you allow your ship to go opl...it deserves to die due to your laziness....same for just launching a ship and forgetting about it. Pure laziness and it deserves to die.

hollow fossil
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@burnt trail your missing the point, some feel that you should kill any ship at any time reguardless of what its doing

tame inlet
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@burnt trailagreed.....its like a football team turns up to a game...ahh ok....so our guys run slow so your team is limited to a fast walk.No scoring points without 5 mins notice.Red haired players are off limits if running left to right.Winning by more than 4 points is bullying.If fact anything but a scoreless draw is bullying.......

hollow fossil
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@tame inlet iirc, your on an "empty" server, you wont say that when you have 1500 players to compete with

burnt trail
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No I get the point. I have spent money on this game and it's like buying a car and someone dictating what kind of oil you put in it, what gas station you can get gas at, etc....no one is gonna tell me how to play a game I have spent on

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My server is also one of the most active from what I understand

solar otter
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I'm not accepting them! I'm more than happy to leave miners until they are OPC. What's the point otherwise.

My server 178 is trying to enforce complete protection of d'vors in lat zones. Not even a suspension during lat event 😂
The council admin is one of the top 3 and I get the impression they are trying to hinder the progress of what they consider a threat

burnt trail
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Laaaaaame

tame inlet
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@hollow fossil why not? Its a little pixilated ship.If it blows up ....repair it and go again.If we wanted farmville its a download away.

burnt trail
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☝️

hollow fossil
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i would be happy with you dont kill a miner till its OPC, its worth something to the other player, but too many just want to add to a useless counter

solar otter
hollow fossil
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@tame inlet this is miningville and will continue to be for a long time, and again, till you are on a 1000+ pop server you cant compare the experiance

tame inlet
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Believe it or not it generally ends up opc for the simple reason its more worthwhile.But if something gets hit otherwise its not a 6hr inquisition in the " Galactic temple of jedi warrior assembly of ROE parliament discord"

hollow fossil
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then your only seeing the dumb ones beaking off

burnt trail
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To many snowflakes in this game....kinda sad really

tame inlet
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And it will always end up mineville if you change the games rules to reflect that.

hollow fossil
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if snowflakes = people who practice diplomacy, then yes there are lots

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@tame inlet scopley already did

burnt trail
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Or just lazy....meh

hollow fossil
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this is a mobile game, its suppost to be for the lazy, lol

burnt trail
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Is it though?

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Best part about it is I can play however I want. Whats the worst that could happen...gonna poke my pixel? Oh no!

tame inlet
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I often wonder when people cry an event's boring....why doesn't scopley test this stuff....well they do but theres no extra made up rules that are different everywhere on their test server.How on earth do you create an event thats great under 100 different sets of rules?

hollow fossil
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yes you can, but remember there is a line that will be you being removed from the game as well

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you have no idea, end of discusion

urban lotus
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Server 46 keeps it mostly to no loot don't shoot, but with the addendum that there's to be absolutely no hits of any kind in zones that require a transwarp cell.

burnt trail
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Been playing 2 years and I have a feeling I know what I'm doing....

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Scopley doesn't even support roe so might wanna rethink that position. They support conflict

hollow fossil
burnt trail
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If you honestly believe that...you have no clue what your doing

tame inlet
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Thats the games mechanics.Sweet lets play those.

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Reading the games description in the app store before downloading would help avoid a lot of angst too.....

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Mentions resources ONCE...mining...ZERO times....blowing up stuff....many many times in many ways.....

burnt trail
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Game even says the first time you mine, mining is dangerous"

hollow fossil
agile flame
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whqt will be new tomorrow

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?

burnt trail
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Anti bubble ray guns!

pale steppe
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Current Lat sale is another day and a half. I suspect nothing new until Wed

graceful shard
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One would assume the new arc will follow the patch directly but it’s scopley so anything’s possible

burnt trail
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Yeah the arc, if past maintenance is any indication, will start tomorrow or the next day

knotty birch
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Or when they get it working after launch 🤣

burnt trail
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Truth...but roll outs have been far better lately. You gotta give credit where credit is due

knotty birch
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Yeah err I do - I think!

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Crossing fingers and putting up a 24hr bubble just now.

ornate geyser
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So...what's an OG Kirk going to cost us...? 😎

burnt trail
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Whatever an auction requires

ornate geyser
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Honestly, I'm more interested in the two miners. Having an accelerated survey ship on each dock would make a lot if things easier.

tawdry kindle
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I’d rather have an Power Raider Survey ship though...

rain gyro
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Join if you're curious about ROE and want some examples of what other servers run

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Please include your server number in your name so we can tell the server visitors from 198 members 🙂

agile helm
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One question: ROE on augment area or nah??

rain gyro
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Yes, data is protected

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Its such a shit thing to mine

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If you dont wanna do it, you dont deserve it

agile helm
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So opc in the augment can be attacked??

rain gyro
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But we do have a provision, if your 0 node for an extended period your open to attack

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No, OPC data is protected.

agile helm
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I understand thanks

rain gyro
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No problem, we figured it was so annoying to mine already, the risk of losing it is not cool

twilit junco
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That's crazy. OPC is OPC

granite wadi
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It is active mining too, you have to refresh so often that unless you leave it there unattended then you see ships coming - and tbh if you are going to leave it there unattended then you deserve to lose it imo.

frozen abyss
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Same on 21. OPC data is not protected.

inland jay
orchid halo
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You guys and your silly opc constructs

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“I can steal your loot bc its opc! Oh but plz dont ever touch my warships bc they are magically immune”

granite wadi
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Our server is trying to ramp up the RoE rather than reduce it. If any alliance actively opposes the changes, it might be the thing that gets me to leave the only alliance I have ever joined.

inland jay
orchid halo
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Take it

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If he cries blow up his franklin

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If he sends an enterprise blow him up with your ktinga

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If he sends a ktinga blow him up with your pilum

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If you dont have any of these then you are a lowbie and you should make up a complicated ROE to shit on the rest of the galaxy to accompdate your shit style of play

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Because thats all these ROE are

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Rules to protect lowbies who are either unable or unwilling to engage in actual pvp

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Its like affirmative action and social security rolled into 1

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Oh and if someone breaches ROE?

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Yeah convince your high levels (who you shit on with your stupid miner ROE) to be your muscle and enforcer

late plover
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Someone’s had a bad day

orchid halo
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The only context in which ROE made sense was when we had a lack of nodes

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That doesnt apply now so its just mainly used by lowbies who still want to pirate opc but dont want any of their warships touched

orchid halo
dapper drum
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If your server RoE protects warships then you need to storm the hill

orchid halo
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Think its garbage

orchid halo
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Its garbage

dapper drum
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No most serever RoE is for miners

tawny kraken
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Iv never heard of a server proteceting warships.

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protecting*

dapper drum
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Warships are fair game and always have been

ancient meadow
orchid halo
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So your franklins vidars etc all can be hit??

tawny kraken
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yup

orchid halo
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My god

dapper drum
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Warship is a warship

orchid halo
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Im on a pansy ass server then

tawny kraken
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fair game

dapper drum
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OPC is OPC

orchid halo
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No opc limit for warship

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If its a warship leaving dock its free game

tawny kraken
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yea, OPC is really the only one and augment space when mining.

dapper drum
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OPC is OPC even in augment space

lofty lodge
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why augment space?

orchid halo
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I cant hit a vidar without angry messages from lowbies

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Why do u guys carve oht all these exceptions

tawny kraken
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we have one in ours for ROE cant hit miners in augment.

orchid halo
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Augment token whatever it doesnt have your name on it

tawny kraken
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but all warships are fair game

dapper drum
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If they are sitting around spewing with probes their fault if they get hit, move it or lose it

lofty lodge
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just wondering what makes augment space different, if OPC is OPC

orchid halo
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That sounds candy ass

tawny kraken
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i dont make the rules man haha

orchid halo
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Why are you applying opc rules to combat ships

lofty lodge
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yeah no worries, just haven't seen it explained yet

tawny kraken
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No in ours all warships are fair game.

lofty lodge
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thanks for responding 😄

tawny kraken
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miners in augment have roe on them

dapper drum
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Most alliances will whine if hit in token space and will cite their RoE thinking it applies to everyone

orchid halo
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If i see a combat ship i want to be able to disco summon in and takeil it out

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Shoot to kill

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Why? So they bring escorts

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Why? So i can pvp with the escorts

tawny kraken
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yea, never heard of ROE for warships like in your server. thats odd

dapper drum
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There is RoE and SoP or CoC

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RoE only applies to miners

orchid halo
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So a ton of rules

dapper drum
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SoP and CoC is alliance determined and upto them to enforce

tawny kraken
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what is SoP and CoC?

dapper drum
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Standards of procedure and code of conduct

orchid halo
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My god man

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That sounds worse

winged tulip
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ours is more or less summed up as "No loot, no shoot"

long dust
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👆

dapper drum
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If its blue give it the pew

orchid halo
winged tulip
orchid halo
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If i see u all lined up for an armada without an escort

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I want to be able to fly in guns blazing

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Loot or no loot

tawny kraken
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warships are free game

orchid halo
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Then why do u guys drone about no loot dont shoot

tawny kraken
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not on warships

orchid halo
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Ok

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Thats better then

tawny kraken
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That was difficult....😆

orchid halo
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You guys are my disciples

bitter snow
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Given the time it doesn't take to go OPC on a warship (stella/vidar aside)... does it make a difference?

orchid halo
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Go back to your servers

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Spread the word of Bahbah

orchid halo
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Who wants to kill a half hull ship

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Full blood all the time

bitter snow
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hah

orchid halo
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I park warships in systems adjacent to swarm systems

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To snipe targets that fly in without escorts

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Not all day everyday, just when i am hungry for franklins

frozen abyss
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Franklins rarely get hit on my server, even though they're not protected. I tend to fill cargo and then give away the frequency modulators to a friend.

bitter snow
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20k mods is nothing anyway 😐

obtuse shoal
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every server has different rules (or lack of) that their community agrees on. They survive because the majority support them and treat anyone who breaks them harshly. Some may seem whacky to you (and to me) but that's what's going on. What becomes more interesting is when servers with completely different viewpoints on these things merge....

bitter snow
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Sadly

hexed gorge
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Swarm space and borg space both protected on server 132

bitter snow
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not protected on 161, but it's a good way to get a war declaration if you make a habit of it

hexed gorge
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Deep space mining also protected

bitter snow
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We don't have enough people in DS for that to be an issue yet 🤣

frozen abyss
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Deep space mining protected currently to protect the whales, yes.

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By the time I get there, it will be standard rules. We call ours the "Gentlemen's Agreement" or GA.

hexed gorge
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Yep, roe and ga

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Then add all your naps and you can hardly do anything 🤣🤣🤣

obtuse shoal
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always love it when you go pop someone and they say 'but there's a gentleman's agreement' and my response is 'you didn't invite me and I ain't no gentleman'

inner cave
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All Token systems are a no hit including borg systems with vidars.
Frankys are protected.
Lat needs dvor, data needs bb.
Right captain on faction miners.
Faction miners can only mine the material it is designed for (with right captain)
Horizon can mine any mats (with right captain)

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Opc is opc except in token system

tawny void
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Glad I am not on that sever. The most annoying one would be faction miners. I use my t7 kvort to mine most stuff

pale cobalt
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A lot of players only have one faction miner and use it everywhere it's a miner who cares where it mines

dapper drum
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if this was 2 years ago

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with tech and officers an envoy can mine 15k/hr on g3

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2 years ago could barely reach 4k/hr

stable cedar
stuck portal
covert lark
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Sooooo the prime research event is literally a p2w event, noice

hexed gorge
covert lark
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They are usually more subtle about it tho 😂

halcyon patio
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Maybe that researches are free 😂

bitter snow
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wow, er, I don't think I have many prime researches left to do anyway 🤣

dire veldt
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NEW PRIMES

covert lark
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It was too hard for p2w to win events so they get an event for themselves only 🤣

clear barn
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You cant p2w this time if you already bought them all. ..

abstract gate
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New primes ? 109€ each ones ?

sly oracle
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So that means New primes after Update but we should Not Do this because Event later?

potent crown
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@clear barn This is for NEW PRIMES, not ones that you already have

covert lark
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Not being able to participate in the event because someone's already bought them all sounds like a first world problem 😂

clear barn
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Ah i see. A new science tree i guess

winged tulip
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Reckon it'll be extras in territory research tree. And improved iso emulsion refines is the only one i'd consider paying for

indigo haven
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I will not pay $100 for each stupid Prime research

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I was born in the morning but not yesterday morning

granite zenith
bitter snow
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Oh, it's the new franklin/dvor/vidar research, isn't it?

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I know some of those were flagged as primes

indigo haven