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Surely Scopely know when people are botting by now? Maybe not
Iโve been playing since the game released, I put in several hours a day minimum and sit at 120K Hostiles killed, by no means impressive and people can do more.. but there are people with 250K hostiles killed
I'm over 200k
Then there is the biggest example of a 3x 1B Faction lock
Thatโs not natural ๐
I grinded triple fact before pike was released lol
Yes I think 200K is like the top end of normal
Ever see a ship sitting in a system, looking afk, then attack hostiles that wander close to them?
The 250K+ ? Seems sketchy
Do you think having 1Billion Faction lock on all 3 is possible ?
One of our super grinders is 215k
Without โaidโ
We have a 50 with 2/3 with billion lock
And how many hostiles?
@meager galleon one would hope that surely it'd ring alarm bells somewhere along the lines....
Yeah thatโs botting
Hes always on in dark
Rep bonuses, higher hostiles etc
Sorry, but unless youโre a retired millionaire with no family and literally playing on the game 8 hours per day
But usually the whales have high paying jobs that need attention
I canโt see 325K being remotely normal
If you're a 50 you prob dam well have a mil in the bank
Diz seems to be on constantly, but I'm convinced he's a saudi prince
1 year and a bit. 170k hostiles. I can do all three faction hunts in under an hour at 39+. There are ways to get those hostile kill counts up fast that don't include bots.
Diz has said he has spent over $300k
I don't see how these guys have t6 G4 epics, $150-200k ...uh huh
He has every ship at max
Some things are just not so natural, yeah there are the outliers thatโ are in the early 200K counts, but 300K+?
You really think they sit there grinding for 7 hours a day minimum
You really think they sit there grinding for 7 hours a day minimum
@meager galleon probably employ someone to do the grinding for them
Maybe. I put in more time than I should. Lol
If you work at home, or retired, i can see it
The bot is there, I donโt want to mention it. But itโs easier to find than Scottys workshop was
And lots of people used that
But I'm more PvP, had i bern exclusively pve, I'd be at 300k
Likewise
Not the hostiles, just more pvp, raiding
Unfortunately all these updates they've done over the last year has really degraded that part of the game
Shadow of it's former self
Yes
Well to be fair, as your server ages, only the more serious players stay, raiding is more scarce just out of normalcy
And being in the 39+ area where my next building upgrade is 6B steel, itโs not fun to raid that amount and Iโm top ten raider
My Kvort is 3.3M Capacity
But they're fixing cosmetic stuff and releasing more frames, so all is good in the galaxy
But also finding the targets is hard enough
Lol, I'm like #86 and hate raiding
So raiding has been killed off at G4
Yeah they want you to buy it not raid it. Raiding is like taking your supplements
The lvl40 academy is 5 bil right?
40+ raiding is all about finding tri and Dil with small par walls, in my experience.
Can't remember, but I remember the lvl 40 Dil wh was 7 or something ๐
There's absolutely no point in going onto the 40s unless you are gonna spend, losing g3 in everyday stuff isn't worth it as a low to mid spender
I wish I'd stayed at 38
That's why i haven't jumped
Pure p2p above that. The refineries are all useless
Where you you seven months ago, when I got my jelly, and chased parts? ๐
4* refinery makes 3* look like Christmas
Ship parts
All of it
Yep
Besides rss, ship parts are the limiter/pain point above 40 like 3* is up to 39.
True Midnight lol
Except getting those parts and the 4* raw mats virtually requires some $, honestly.
@meager galleon. Bear with me here, I'm pretty dumb with this stuff, so you're not a scopely employee? Or do you just have contact with them, this game is my 1st experience with discord
Mods are volunteers, we manage and help on discord, a bit like an extra customer service at times as well (with no actual in game abilities)
They should put the lowest, mid and high unc values per refine, with the other two as bonus chance. Getting 39 unc parts for a 40k refine makes me want to throw my device at the wall.
We have direct contact with employees behind scenes and work with the CMโs for community initiatives and collecting feedback and passing it along
Ultimately we are players though ๐
I feel sorry for Mods and Panic. Getting the flak Scopely execs should be
Theyre in their penthouses laughing at us
Panic is a dev though, so he's getting paid for it
Mad props to the community mods. Thankless gig.
They are improving, trying to improve coms and community involvement. Maybe not as fast as we want but itโs there
Events like this bring doubt to that
Panic is a Scopely employee but probably not responsible for change to the game directly either - he's a CM, not a designer
Frustration to spend is the tactic
With the extra IP they have gained, i imagine they are planning long term so if they want that they know things need to change in certain aspects
Frustration also leads to game deletion, there's a fine line
Discovery kinda gave me the impression they are rushing to shoehorn the new IP in asap
Same midnight, thats the name of my admiral too, we just ended a 2 year perpetual war with a bigger alliance
Community and alliances are certainly a big driver on player retention
I've told Scopely that in feedback too. Literally the alliance is keeping me around.
i am in top50, but my score there is like 3 hours old
Slow update Rumpel
Ha still 200mil short to place, yeaaaa no
2 year war lol
Lucky if they last 2 days with player effort
I sent Panic my idea for war leaderboards and rss. Showing player actual effort with kills, raiding etc, with big rss for placing to get engagement. That would get pvp going. Nothing yet it seems. All we hear is territory, which will be another big ship bouncer club
Plenty of pvp on our server right flipt
I meant compared to the sh.ite pvp events they roll out
I am a big advocate for moving the people who complain about server wide pvp or c2a to pve only servers
It would need some controls around how it was enacted. It could be enabled using diplomacy but not so alliances could be picked on. Or they could make it an alliance war event where two alliances could agree to war. You could get intra-alliance competition going as well as inter-alliance competition, with rewards for both. Would naturally increase player growth and packs anyway without it being so obviously big player weighted as lower guys can compete with lower guys.
It would need some controls around how it was enacted. It could be enabled using diplomacy but not so alliances could be picked on. Or they could make it an alliance war event where two alliances could agree to war. You could get intra-alliance competition going as well as inter-alliance competition, with rewards for both. Would naturally increase player growth and packs anyway without it being so obviously big player weighted as lower guys can compete with lower guys.
@tall valley could easily be manipulated. sister alliances going to war with each other.... ๐ค like some already do to cook the leaderboards ie... resource raided
All events are manipulated to some extent
Not as much as people claim. There was a huge uproar around server pvp event, but the math doesn't add up. Sacrificing ships to get super high scores would cost the sacrificer waaaay too much, not to mention all of the speedups needed
It wouldn't be a server wide event either
It's mostly to get alliance activity and competition
@eager gust yup
As in all alliances not competing, just 1v1 with a set winner reward and then alliance leaderboard within your alliance
would have just took a shark/whale to drop out - get out relatively small ships....and the team mates destroying them. rinse and repeat x amount of times
Mad I didn't break 400 mil before it ended lol
@tall valley. We have a pretty crazy server lol
would have just took a shark/whale to drop out - get out relatively small ships....and the team mates destroying them. rinse and repeat x amount of times
@abstract gate small ships=small score. That rinse and repeat would have been in the thousands
@abstract gate When you're not competing against other alliances on the server you're only cheating your own alliance members. That's my point. Set rewards for within your alliance.
Think internal alliance leaderboard
Not server leaderboard
The structure of the events and the way Scopely do them is the problem with cheating
It's all geared toward directly spending
It's all geared toward directly spending
@tall valley thats scopely's mission
Internal alliance event would promote engagement, competition, and naturally people would want to place higher for higher rewards (within your alliance) which would result in player growth (spending). The 1v1 alliance win reward would be the same across the entire server, like an alliance reward event
That would increase engagement and people spending on their ships to beat opponents and get better rewards internally
It's like having the gas station charging heaps with empty forecourt and the one discounted and full of cars. Over the course of the weekend the discounted one earns more money
Instead Scopely has players in the 40s quitting
The c2a needs to return @abstract gate
Last one was in January to start the Borg arc
I think a lot of the players out the top 10 in the event have decided to hang their boots tonight
@humble thorn c2a?
So to give some context: We wanted to try something new and hopefully exciting which involves server vs. server events. As first try, in order to keep the numbers of participants low for website/server stability etc.. we designed this event for 39+ but with some rewards for everyone as well (the extra refinery). The goal is that if this is successful and liked by the community is to expand it and run cooler and broader events like this in the future.
PS. C2A - call to arms and we hear you on that
Lvl43. Apathy high for this one Roy.
@toxic urchin great idea. The pvp brackets need to be super tight or huge negative points for hitting below your competitive bracket.
Disappointing to hear @tall valley - what's the main concern/issue?
@toxic urchin great idea. The pvp brackets need to be super tight or huge negative points for hitting below your competitive bracket.
@indigo perch like banding in general during pvp events?
Rewards are entirely not worth the effort. Even at my level. 1 building, quarter of a ship module of parts. Extra days refinery useless as the 4* refinery makes 3* look generous and bonus refinery doesn't give parts.
That's if I won it
PvP brackets are a different and bigger issue and not an easy one to solve although we do have lots of feedback on it from everybody and had lots of internal discussions on it.
@tall valley - we are looking to add bonus 4x refinery too in the future (on our plate). No timeline yet but thats in our plan.
4* mats pointless though when parts are the problem
Parts - we know. On our plan.
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@abstract gate brackets arent tight. Bigs farm the littles. It cannot be pvp unless the weaker player has a statistical chance to win against any player capable of I initiating an attack against them.. Currently, littles have a 0% statistical chance of winning a head to head pvp.
@toxic urchin I messaged you - take a look
@indigo perch - yep, thats a whole different topic for PvP brackets. I agree that they could be tighter but there are issues with doing that too, especially on some servers. We are exploring some ideas but I don't expect them to change in the short term.
Unhealthy for an event like this to be for 24 hours. People will stay up all night to try and make the rewards bracket.
Ops 39-41 haven't got much of a chance at all. Would like tighter brackets as mentioned by others.
would it be possible for the internal server players to see the leaderboard in real time ? similar to how the lvl 39+ players can view through the events screen.... or maybe some sort of drill down on the website data? @toxic urchin
Also the people that are strong enough to win really don't need the rewards compared to those at 39-41
My opinion isn't worth anything now as I left the game because it's no longer fun, But as I see it the event is a taster to see if the premise is any good and if it is then it will be refined into a more playable feature
@abstract gate I wish we could but the data we get from the analytics servers right now is 2 hours delayed and that's why we have it on the website too. Engineers are looking to see if that can be shortented but it is lower on their priority list as I am sure you can understand.
@toxic urchin had a sneaky feeling that would be the case fella. sommat to look forward to in the future ๐
What cloud services Scopely using? Would be pretty easy if using the right tools
Our real goal is to have this all in the game itself but that's a much bigger feature so way further down the road.
oh god yes.... small steps are safer LOL ๐ ๐ป
As an update, SpiritGrayWolf, the lvl 41 from server 31 has dropped from top 10, but still going in 15th
What cloud services Scopely using? Would be pretty easy if using the right tools
@civic viper amazon, and it's.... Had issues
any chance on UTC timezone being used with future incarnations of the event?
@toxic urchin I understand and thank you for communicating with us. Can penalties for initiating an attack vs an underpowered opponent be implemented easier than bracket tightening. I dont mind a 39 being able to hit a lower station but would like to be able to defend better ship to shup.
@indigo perch ideas like that are being discussed but like I said, it won't happen in the short term. We do understand it can be frustrating, especially for the lower level ships/players.
@toxic urchin again. Thank you for the communication.
@abstract gate - potentially although is easier to do usually in our local time but I will look into it.
On the other side of that, I wouldn't want to see myself having to put my 900k cent up against the 1.2m ships common for my level (31)
I mainly used my 550k vidar for the server pvp event, and was able to put up solid points hunting other vidars and lvl 26-28 faction ships
RE: battlepass and over accumulation of pts. Is there any plans for us to be able to make use of these in future? It's great to have the down time, took me a while to get my head around it - and yes i'm sorry to everyone for moaning about it. Many of us are loyal players, logging in daily to do events - we're accumulting something at the moment with no reward. I understand that we've already had the rewards. Just curious if something could be thought up with what we can do with the extra pts.... [my gran taught me; that if I dont ask - I won't get... ] @toxic urchin
I just want to know what the heck "they " are grinding and the location.
For the whale event? Seps mostly i think
@indigo perch call to arms
I just want to know what the heck "they " are grinding and the location.
@scenic cloud that's a thought - similar happened with the arena event. view completely locked out for people not able to unlock the system....
Bonus points on top of rss. It was wonderful
Yes 39+ event
Seps
khan/raid event was great fun @ ops 21/22 with a northstar. don't fancy it at ops 33 now though ๐
@abstract gate - something we are considering. We know some players accumulate more than needed by the end so we are thinking of possible ways to make them useful (like an extra milestone) but we don't have anything currently planned for it.
Bring back call to arms.
Conversion on the events store for the points would be nice
Base defense buff definitely made raiding much harder, but it can still be done. Just have to find the unshielded bases that aren't long dead
cheeky event store with bps, FM/dvor parts and things that dont cost much in terms of value to scopely? ๐ค might hit scopely revenue if a few of the packs which contain those items. However players might be inclined to buy the additional battle pass points packs instead? it would offer the player the choice of how they spend their money with regards to packs. Might be easier than redesigning the whole cash store offering? @toxic urchin a lot of players are just shielding now they have completed the event, potentially this idea would continue to keep them engaged and loyal to the brand/game.
I'd be more inclined to buy packs if they weren't all $100
Players have no need to do anymore events for the Battlepass now the milestones have been reached, especially as the events give no rewards except points
Bp event pack is the only one i don't feel like I'm throwing away money buying
Hot trending idea, mystery chest if you get a 99 pack.
Hell no. A mystery chest of 2* ship parts and uncommons no doubt
@scenic cloud the mystery chest gives you a Mitchell shard?
Jelly shard chance
@toxic urchin. I understand you were trying something new, but to create an event spread across 11 levels is a bit extreme, if you're gonna do something like this, you can't expect that much of a stretch to have good reviews
@real depot the servers didnโt implode so maybe now it can be pushed to say level 35
Hot trending idea, mystery chest if you get a 99 pack.
@scenic cloud sucks if you get the equivalent of the latinum cash store pack.... ๐ I wonder if thats the purpose of the latinum pack.... ? ๐ค
That would be upsetting ๐
@candid goblet. Im talking like a half and half split, 39-45 46-50
Those are definitely different leagues
The purpose of the latinum pack is so they can say the other packs are a 500% value discount
@real depot - it is a first time we are trying this so wanted to keep # of participants manageable for our servers. If this is successful, we will definitely look to expand it in the future iterations.
@real depot 30-34,35-39 etc
That's on them, but for g4 rewards they wouldnt give those to 38 and under I believe
Current #15 is lvl 41. He's a madman, but he's our loveable madman
Hi @toxic urchin hope youโre having a good evening! Weโve noticed thereโs been 2 ISS jelly events in 2 weeks, is this new schedule to stay?
To be honest think most of us here are pxssed we didnโt get to do the event because of our level but the fact we are annoyed shows @toxic urchin it will be popular with a bigger audience if they make the preparations
I@know Iโd compete if I could
@stone grail - we definitely are trying to have them more frequent but no, not a new cadence ๐
@candid goblet I can do the event and haven't, due to the effort reward imbalance
@tall valley crew your Realta mate and go for it ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
Lol
@toxic urchin. Yes , 39 and up is manageable, but i believe future events should split the bigs, from the super whales, you're not creating a competitive atmosphere that seems attainable by the current standard
@loud solar you wish you were level 39? ๐
Of course you'll have one or 2 exceptions like that 41, but that's not the norm, nor can you expect it to be
I bet he really wanted that 8bn par for his Dil warehouse though ๐
I saw a big 38 in Revs top left corner of screen
If he was 39 you would have seen a huge pot of coffee on ๐
I'd be more inclined to buy packs if they weren't all $100
@abstract gate or if one upgrade didn't cost 500 lol
Or a ship costing $1k^
What do the g4s cost lol
Judging by the amount of bps a pilum is what $3k out the showroom floor?
Unc are same as epic g3. 350bp for rare and 650epic
It's the parts and rss that kill you tho.
Itโs the cost of running them@that destroys you
And the $50k to get you to ops 50, dont forget that
That too
Because we are all rich.....and all
Iโm going to check on scores and then get some sleep
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๐ฉ is that the time? ๐ฎ
0115 ๐ฎ
Good Night ๐๐ป
Jeebus...
Kelvin T4 module. There are 12 tiers with G4
Currently costs me 150m tri to repair it if it goes boom
And at 43, low end. Imagine what the big guys have ๐
Well, last time I saw Diz's base was quite a long time ago, but his rss were measuring in the 10's of trillions
Yes and at that level research items are 1bn Dil
More even
I think 1bn starts around 46 or 47
Bro Wolf is killing it ๐
<@&509691205798592532> 39+ event would be fair if Scopely cracked down on macro users. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
The amount of bots being used is out of control.
Itโs against the TOS and Scopely has yet to enforce it.
nothing of scopely is fair and frankly they don't care
might wanna scroll up.... and read the last 90mins+ of chat above @ripe orchid ๐ค
Event board updated. Server 17 moving to dominate the top 20, server 31s lvl41 still holding at 14th
@@tall valley we just got our 1st 50s in the server, 2 50s and 2 49s, biggest ship is a 14 mil valdore but there's 2 13.6 mil pilums, the costs are insane. I was told dili vault 49 is 70 billion par or something
Doesn't surprise me ๐
@abstract gate so roy got on and said sample size.. people crying about stuff and pvp.. simple FACT is the game NEEDS an entire rework from ground up because it was based on not being as successful as it was.. I could go hours and hours on how the game could be "better" but UNTIL 1) they remove the pyramid scheme that is setup, 2) move past events etc that were done as far back as vega conflict 3) decide if this a pvp, mmorpg, or rts, 4) add an actual economy in game, 5) host of other things... from servers to customer support etc.. this all means nothing.. I like many others have spent years feedbacking to them.. but yet i only see them listening whales really... so until then its all blah blah blah to me..
Moving on up to the east side
"based on not being as successful as it was"
what?
And it's clearly a resource gathering game. PvP is a part of the process
A resource gathering game that makes it impossible by just "mining" to grow........
Yeah there is no way you could mine or even raid what you need even mid 30s let alone 40+
You can certainly grow by just "mining" but it takes longer. And there are f2p that make it to upper 30s.
Gather your resources however you choose
would've been cool to see a server wide event which involves the whole server not just 39+, similar to how alliance leaderboards and milestones work, instead of this format of individuals from each server, it would be similar to alliance crucible of war or other similar events
as a server you work towards milestones and there is also a leaderboard
and similar to how alliance events work you can see on your server who is contributing what
The secret to progressing without spending is to stop trying to have good ships.. you don't need that much unless you PvP'ing, and that's not a poor man's game ๐ฌ
Have everyone put in points for a game wide score for you to win a prize based on your level
Like most mobile games..
Players vs the borg score maybe 100 billion or something
I'm currently in 13th place as a 41. I only wish I could punch as high as the monster 50's ahead of me.
@abstract gate btw hats off to your effort for your level, my comment is more at the structure of the event
<@&509691205798592532> <@&509691611903426561>
Is there any reason that there have been 3 ISS Jelly events in the past 5 weeks?
It used to be 1 ISS Jelly event every 5-6 weeks, making it be a more โexclusiveโ ship, which made it worth while for people to inject money into winning the event.
Is it going to be fortnightly from now on going forward? Or is this a once off?
If it is going to be fortnightly then it has changed the dynamics of the game & disadvantages all the people (such as myself) that spent up big to win the event.
If it is just a once off having 3 events running each fortnight consecutively then all good, but if it is planned to be fortnightly going forward it would be good to know & I feel that people who have paid out big for it should be considered for some kind of compensation / resources paid back for the change in dynamics making it easier (cheaper) for people participating in the event now.
Either way, it would be nice to get an official announcement around this as I know many other players like myself who spend quite a lot of money are getting annoyed at the iSS Jellyfish now seeming to have become more readily available.
I look forward to your response.
Kind Regards, Cam.
They've never been consistent with the Jelly event. It's like someone had to add it to the schedule and kept forgetting. I tracked it for some time a while back and it was 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 3 weeks, 5 weeks, 6 weeks. It used to be 1 day, then 2 days, then 3 days, particularly as they spaced them out which resulted in bigger spend.
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Let's be honest, more jelly events to try to get more people to spend. We all know its heavy pay to win after what? 37?
The disappearance of Franky, Northstar, etc events is to force those who want/need to pay for them. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Franklin is sometimes in event stores. NS is in the cash store sometimes
Used to be NS for sale on mining monday. Maybe it still is
Agreed - we need to do a better job at having regular schedules for all the ships etc.. the main issue is that it is hard to schedule sometimes given how busy many of these arcs are in terms of battle-pass events and new events for the different arcs.
We are working on several backend tools to help us manage and schedule these events (right now a lot of it is manual work on our side which takes a lot of time) so once we have those then it will be much easier to do.
That being said, until then we are also looking to come up with a better cadence of these for the short term.
I just want to be able to get myself a vidar as a self bday present lol
@solemn sierra I donโt believe either Mod or CC can tell why there has been an increase in the jelly event, the events are set by Scopely.
Personally, I wrote off getting a jelly as I would not be able to compete with the spenders on my server but was extremely lucky in a full pull of a jelly from an epic chest.
Does the fact I got a full pull disadvantage you or other previous winners more as someone who has spent big on the previous jelly events?
it is common sense. stuff gets cheaper/easier when overtime
Ent used to cost 3000$ now it is only 1k for example
@warped stag no you getting a full pull is something that is & has been an option for all players & was something people who spent on the events we well aware of before deciding to spend on the IsS Jelly, we even have people in our server who have gotten the Jelly from doing 2 epic chests every 7 days over several months.
I guess what I am trying to understand, is more going forward will the Jelly event be consistently every two weeks, then it would make and pre-spending / planning before the event easier to manage, hence why I have asked for some clarification around the schedule of the event going forward.
Obviously stuff gets cheaper overtime, and I expect they will continue to become even cheaper as next range of ops lvls gets added, etc... I just wanted to know for now, for my alliance members who are looking to compete whether what we have seen with frequent (fortnightly) jelly events will be the new normal.
As for the spending part, i understand it was my decision to spend on it & I donโt have any regrets. It would just be nice to have a little more information for those of us who do spend so we can plan our spending going forward.
@solemn sierra I hear what you are saying. As with all special events, there is very few โin the knowโ. I wonder if the jelly event has been released more frequently in conjunction with the Harrison events, to either split or increase the activity around these events. That said, I can also foresee that the jelly will become more widely available as the game progresses. Without being a Scopely employee I, like many, can only speculate when the events will be released.
why the server-wide event leaderboard is not updating?
I still say vidar, BB, Franklin NS etc should included in the hostile hit chests. Just like the other ones, so f2p still have a chance to own one or more without having to either pay or wait for event stores.
@errant abyss It has been brought into our attention and we are currently looking into it. The data is all there but looking into why the website did not update in the last few hours.
Should be updated now
someone forgot to start the cron task ๐
Looking at the leader board for the cross server event and does ska have multiple accounts on server 17 or does everyone on server 17 have ska in their username. A version of ska appears 4 times on the list at positions 1,3,11 and 21
@toxic urchin my humble opinion would be a bigger break between arcs and not following them immediately with faction hunt or similar heavy events. Grinding to hell and then again before bam another arc. I've literally skipped last 3 arcs through repetitive burnout. Too much. Just doing my own thing. Maybe I'm an anomaly though...
Of course I know why it happens. Revenue.
But the actual playability of the game has been deteriorating for the last year
The leaderboard gets duplicate entries for anyone who has changed their in-game nickname during the event @hybrid ibex
I'm sure you'd agree that that is a bad property for a leaderboard ๐
Funny if you're no.1 and change it 100 times ๐
Oh but they don't update the leaderboard 100 times during the event, so they're protected against that ๐
Oh right. That seems like very poor design.
But really, extracting scores from the analytics servers and creating leaderboard entries based on scores you've seen, instead of the latest scores is a very strange approach.
And not using player ID as a key, but relying on the nickname, which can be changed...
Not sure if that's been adressed by Scopely. I know @toxic urchin was here recently. The fact that players changing their name get duplicate entries in the cross server leaderbord?
from looking at the current leaderboard - definitely looks like there should be some sort of region banding. so many US servers in the top 100, very few apac/eu ๐
@toxic urchin did you pull an All Nighter? You were on just before I went to sleep ๐ค
@abstract gate this event seems like unfair for younger servers. lol
Duplicate entries seem to have been removed now
@abstract gate this event seems like unfair for younger servers. lol
@errant abyss 2nd generation especially. Not sure if this is because of the uptake... be interesting to know the %age of lvl 39+ who actually participated due to the huge amount grinding/resources/speedups required vs rewards given ๐
@toxic urchin Having a Scopely dev actually respond is awesome! Thank you
thousands are going at it
game has been around long enough lvl 39 isn't uncommon
and there are people who have spent over 7 digits now
@dapper drum 7 digits WTF
not me I'm not stupid to waste money on the game
2 years ago a whale would have been anyone who spent 50k or more, now the whales are avg 400k to 600k with some who have spent twice that
Scopely prides itself in their whale tailoring program
@toxic urchin Time showing on the web-leaderboard is somewhat wierd now.
@dapper drum 400k? That seems a bit much to me
thats the low end
I donโt even know what could be bought with that much
a lvl 40 who spends 5k can tier up a g3 epic once
g4 epic you are looking at 15k for same tier
this is beyond tier 5
if you want to do tier 8 to tier 9 you are looking at 3x that
before the lvl 40 was finally added it was 90k to get to lvl 39 and max out on faction of ships
scopely has kept that money flowing and at an even higher rate with new content and ships
game didn't make top 5 grossing in 2 years for being cheap to play
Actually you may be right- no wonder I have no money ๐
79 packs for t9 Ent for me
Mine is only t8 though
and g3 epics are cheap now to tier up compared to a year ago
Out of curiosity, where are the big wig servers hostile farming for this event?
@dapper drum 600k? Dude you have facts to back that up.
Do you even need 600k to max out?
600,000?
Not buying it. No pun intended
a year ago avg whale expenditure on this game was close to 200k
that was just after lvl 40+ was added
they had just got their first g4 miners
one guy on my server dropped 100k just to get korinar
@tall valley I feel you on the burnout. I don't mind the rogue tokens or Crucible of War but I will say that I got seriously burned out on the constant flash events during this arc. Maybe if they were for one hour 2-3 times a day to accommodate the different time zones and people working and such, then that might be better. They had that one alliance one last month I think that was at a designated time for an hour. That wasn't so bad, but EVERY hour. I know you don't have to do them after you get the six trophies, but with a leaderboard, it invites competition, which is good, but then again, it's EVERY hour. Just a morning ramble. Sorry
a lvl 40 who spends 5k can tier up a g3 epic once
I'm lvl 40. I tier up my g3 epic once in a while, without spending that kind of money
I'm playing STFC on shoestring
I only have one epic g3 (Enterprise), but I have a total of 647k faction credits and 176 epic blueprints so I could build a small armada of epics if I wanted to ๐
I have no input to give on how much the ops 45+ players might or might not have spent, but I see so much disinformation on how much ops 39+ players have supposedly spent
@echo bloom I agree, itโs 79 packs on my server at 44 for tier 1-9 Ent
So I guess 100k for a very big spender
At L50
Well at ops 40 a research pack gives about 1000 uncommon g3. The game gives the same amount in a 3-4 day period.
So anyone saying that you need X amount of packs probably talks about those who buy, and don't play the game?
Rather than buying 10 packs, play the game for a month. Easy ๐
I think many do both ๐
Yeah, but it'd be equally correct to say that you can go from ops 0 to 40 without spending a single dime. It's been done
My server gives no where near that amount in a pack. At lvl 38 only get 300uncommon in a pack
Yeah, it differs a lot by server (partly why cross-server lb is difficult)
300 uncommon? Really? I'd like to see that in a screenshot if possible
This is at ops 40.
1000ucs in 3 or 4 days? Hand over that refinery @echo bloom ๐
That includes events, 30 day loyalty chests, battle pass rewards, armada chests, and also the monthly elite pack (for money).
Basically everything.
Refinery is probably about 200 per day, so a good chunk of that
I take it thatโs prime refinery and 4 chests for that
200 a day is still punchy
Yes, I did my last 12k refine 14 months ago. Never going back
And yes, prime refinery
Well at ops 40 a research pack gives about 1000 uncommon g3. The game gives the same amount in a 3-4 day period.
So anyone saying that you need X amount of packs probably talks about those who buy, and don't play the game?Rather than buying 10 packs, play the game for a month. Easy ๐
@echo bloom how does the game give 1000
I wouldnโt go back either if I was getting that refinery number
No way refinery is 200 a day
100 on a good day
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Im gojng to do refines right now, 4 pulls and will post
Try logging them for a while...
Gas and crystal?
I tried 4 pulls for a month
Got same uncommons as 3 pulls
But a heck of a lot more commons
But see those pulls? Not a single blue either?
Come on...
I stopped 4 pulls when mining g4...too much time
Anyone know what, if any, event we're getting this afternoon?
Heres where I realized this is rigged
This is the SECOND WORST RESULT you can get theoretically
I get this often
I have never gotten the BEST or SECOND BEST result
Which would be over 100 unc
Yeah I donโt think I have either
In theory i should get the BEST or SECOND BEST pull at the same frequency
But i dont
Not really
Small, medium, large
Their probabilites are not the same
I have to run, but this is the case in many aspects of the game - small/medium/large
Is this still the event chat? ๐คฃ
Yeah its rigged to give a crap ton of commons
Sorry just thought it was funny thay i did a 4 pull with you all watching
And got 7 uncommon ๐
I get more with one chest than anything higher. What event is today?
flash
Silver cliff has a secret we all want to know
Not that I need much 3* anymore, but even at 43 I don't get that much
triple triple all day long triple triple while you sing this song
you are paying for time thats all not better results
more in less time
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And when a refinery pull cost 400k raw just to expensive
Not that I need much 3* anymore, but even at 43 I don't get that much
Ops 38+ all have exactly the same g3 refinery. No difference. So there's no reason why an ops 43 player should get more g3 uncommons from the refinery
And you get a lot less g3 from events at ops 40+
@echo bloom thats one reason why i am staying at 39 for some time
Well It is Scopely logic, dont ask why cause it offend them.
final scores should be updated in about 1h15m
Is there a list somewhere please of all or top 100?
#โก-mod-announcements has the link
#2 is a lvl41 with a few Stellas. He is my new hero.
So does server 17 get a 2 day bonus refinery?
Should we spend are discovery recruit token before the end of this arc or will we be able spend in the next one??
Is it 1+2 days bonus or 1+3 days bonus?
1+3
Is Scopely trying to kill the game? The next event sounds trouble. Sounds like NO spending November.
Why hace there been these lame days of no events?! Flash and battlepass aside, nothing else to do event wise, at least through faction hunt or something like that in.
yeah, those days when the event board is just completely empty are terrible
I'm just enjoying the break. Waiting for the grind to restart in arc 3
Now they've stripped extra rewards from the battlepass events there's no point to them once you've finished the pass. The rewards from the Domination ALB and SLB are so weak they're not worth the burn on their own..
@twilit imp Why are there no events today other than Domination?
Thereโs the flash events, and domination cos itโs the final 2 days of arc 2.
Does there have to be an event for everything for you to do something?
Go kill something for your game progression, Rep? Borg probes? Stella? Swarm? Lots of other things that can be done
yeah, I only do the Flash events twice, they suck because there is barely enough time to get to the system, between the heads up for location and the start time. And I have no officers small enough to do anything with Domination.
and It's useless anyway because I finished Battlepass 3 days ago.
I donโt do it, I will level a small ship with ship xp to qualify for the alliance rewards then I donโt bother with it either cos Iโve done my Battlepass too, itโs nice to know I donโt have to worry about not doing it,
Q. Will the systems be protected from other players (i.e. once captured will other alliances be able to enter the systems)?
A. Yes, anyone can enter those territories, but only Alliances that have captured those territories can mine & relocate their bases. We expect Alliances to establish their own rules concerning foreign players within their Territory.
What happens to an alliances bases when another aliance takes over that territory?
I would assume that they are relocated to a level 1 system? Or they cant send out ships until they relocate...?
Somehow there will be a mechanic about it
you can't shield there if you are not in the alliance thats all
move it or lose it or just keep repairing all day long
no events again oh joy
i thought they fixed this? lol
Flash events.....repeat....repeat....repeat....
fixed what?
holding onto event
I'm just hoping that the next arc will have tokens to buy Blueprints again
What happens to an alliances bases when another aliance takes over that territory?
@plush condor it says in the Qโs, if you arenโt part of the controlling alliance you wonโt be able to put your shield on, therefore meaning you wonโt want to stay there.
Will there be a 3rd Discovery Arc in November?
Probably
@plush condor it says in the Qโs, if you arenโt part of the controlling alliance you wonโt be able to put your shield on, therefore meaning you wonโt want to stay there.
@earnest hornet overlooked that statement apparently. Sounds like prime raiding territory lol
I can hear the tears now...
Lol yup it will be great ๐๐๐

But that will be the thing use a long term shield? Or will it drop, but I doubt that will happen. So using a long term shield would be better defense if you arenโt sure your alliance will keep it when the timer for the takeover comes up.
@jade mango you'll notice there are a couple avatars we haven't seen in rewards yet. So, there'll definitely be another arc.
Something that really grips my ๐ฉ there is not enough Epic Armadas from level 36 and the CD on them is almost the length of a Leap Year!!! Why???
Why do I have a feeling this new territory capture will be a flash event on next ark. I'm calling it now! 10/29!
@young pilot so there will likely be opportunities to earn or pur hase more spore drive components?
Spore drives are currently in the store. I would be surprised if more spore drives don't end up as rewards in some of the events. All just an educated guess based off past arcs and the officer avatars I see.
why does Scopely add the alliance Flash event towards the Solo event score? if they want a flash alliance event make one but stop screwing us solo flash players by adding the alliance event with it.. The alliance I am in most do not like the flash event to start with.. they think its not worth the effort due to the crappy rewards scopely gives out.. I do like the solo flash event but when they add the alliance to itr it stops me from getting the gold trophy's.. I haver few choice words I like to call Scopely cause of it.. Ignorant is one that comes to mind
The solo flash event give you the points, that goes towards the solo, there is an alliance one 4 times a day, doesnโt mean you have to compete in that, but even if you just killed 1 of the hostiles, and then left youโd get your alliance rewards if you donโt have time to last the full 15 minutes. Thatโs all I do while Iโm at work, 15 seconds, to attack a hostile, cos I already have it prepared sitting in a system,
So out of 24 flash events only 4 of them are Alliance ones. But you can still do it and at least gain a bronze or silver if you arenโt competing against many alliances
Another thing is move to a different alliance if the one your in doesnโt match your play style for events,
And maybe help them realise that even a small amount of effort can help everyone, thatโs what an alliance is about, a team effort
it counts towards the solo points as I was 4 and now I am 7 cause of it.. So if it didnt count towards the solo I would not have dropped .. thats what is so screwed up with adding the alliance to the solo
they cant say it isnt part of it, yet cant tell me why I anm loosing rank after the Alliance event part..
.I like my alliance, I do not care if they dont do these flash events, what i do care about is scopely screwing us by adding the alliuance in with the solo..
You're losing rank because those other guys are getting gold in alliance
If you want to be event focused, you should try to get in an event focused alliance
if its a solo event then keep it solo, if its an alliance event then keep it that way. dont add the two to screw the solo players leaderboard
yes they are making the alliance event in with the solo.. that is a moronic move.. make two event dont add them together to screw players like they are
Think of it as encouragement to join an alliance.
I shouldnt have to leave my alliance cause Scopely doesnt understand that they shouldnt mis the two event together to screw us players like they are
Why isn't your alliance participating?
Yea exactly if you want to be able to keep up on the solo, then go to a better event alliance,
They arenโt screwing players, itโs your alliance, if they donโt want to compete in an event to help others then you go to a better alliance to help yourself
Help encourage your alliance, often all it takes it doing a couple of the event armadas and they give great points on the alliance event,
Help them see the benefit of help each other.
If they arenโt willing to then thatโs up to you to move to a place that will help you in the way you play
caose most think the rewards are not worth it.. so they choose no tot do it.. I understand that. my complaint is with Scopely saying that to get solo points this hour you have to do the alliance part so that we can screw your solo ranking.
I shouldnt have to joi a different alliance to do a solo event.. that ius my whole point
It's supposed to be so your alliance can work together and help each other, not screwing you over. Your issue is your alliance isn't working together
a soplo event is a solo event an alliance event is an alliance wide event
But thatโs not scopely issue that your alliance arenโt doing it. Many other alliances are doing it.
Solo mean on my own.. iof it doesnt when did they change the meaning of Solo
It helps boost the gold trophies some people donโt get high enough also, so it helps in the other way round too, where players canโt get gold or silver doing the solo, but can get the gold or silver when helped by their alliance
.it is Scopelys fault for making a solo event then saying the whole alliance has to participate this hour to get you your solo [points
again solo means one, not the whole alliance
there isnt a alliance flash leaderboard, only a SOLO LEADERBOARD
There is an alliance flash leaderboard. Once every 6 hours.
The reward is extra points for everyone
not on my screen only shows me the solo leaderboard event
Because ot finished half an hour ago
Thatโs whatโs being referred to...the alliance lb then gives the medals towards the solo lb
Ours just finished ๐
But itโs only 4 times, surely depending on how many are doing it, if even a few of you are doing it then youโll get at least a bronze or silver.
So thatโs better then nothing.
Cos the alb is 4 times a day, in between the slb flash
So do you place on the alb??
but alliance shouldnt caount towards the solo, that is my whol point..
What medal did you get?
I get the feeling mary is that player that is propping up a weak alliance. You'll eventually get to the point where you move on if you want to grow
solo I get gopld as I usually get top 3, during the alliance part I only get as high as 9th
Ok, so thatโs still better then nothing, yea if you got you alliance more involved as they can then it helps, do armadas they give great points towards the event,
Many in my alliance were the same way, until they decided that they wanted to be able to grow and joined the event focused group
But I get it if they arenโt helping then it makes it difficult
where is the ALB so I can see it. as the only thing I can call up says distinguished service..
Slb
Iโm a bit slack at times like for the alb we just did Iโm at work, so I just hit one hostile to get the alliance points, and the rest of my alliance got 2nd,
Look in the finished event
IF THERE IS AN ALLIANCE LEADERBOARD WHY CANT WE CALL IT UP TO SEE IT
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I do not have that in my events tab though
that only come up after you do the event, where is it like the solo event that shows you the current placement
Think of it like this, they have alliance events where the points are scored through solo milestone events. It's solo, and alliance. This is just a small flip. Alliance boosts your score in the solo
Those are the done events
Current placement?? There isnโt one cos itโs each itโs own individual flash event just like the flash solo
The alliance one is a flash only, there isnโt a total alliance one.
If there is an alliance event it should be here so you can call it up anytime to see the standing, like the SLB
But in general, if you want to win events, you really need to be in an alliance that is focused on events. With participation being tracked, and firm expectations
again I am inb the solo event, I do not care about an alliance wide event.. alliance one should not be involved with the solo event
alliance wide event should not bring down my solo event score the way it is now
It isn't. It gave you a silver medal. It just didn't boost you as much as it did the people who got gold.
It didn't subtract points from you
Your alliance just failed to provide you with the support that other received
.when I compete in the solo event I get gold, I should not have to competein an alliance event to get solo points. that is my whole point, they want an alliance even then make one do not add a alliance event to a solo event
that is stupid. solo mean solo alliance means more then one.. whats =so hard to understand this
or get your alliance off their lazy bums and get them to participate and you can keep the gold?
if i do that i miss out on that hhgour of solo point cause Scopely doesnt know how to make a fair game. like their pvp where they7 think a lvl 31 can take out a lvl 41..
That is the event take it or leave it. If your alliance donโt want to help then leave and go to another one that will help
It is fair, as Iโve said before thatโs your alliance letting the team down, not scopely
I take out 41 miners at 31 all the time
yea mibners take out a lvl41 warship..
I raided 2b rss off a 39 last weekend
again attack and win against a lvl 41 warship.. your point is mneaningless
@abstract gate darlin, much like life, this game has certain...... inequities. it won't always be fair. you do the best with what ya got to work with.
Im not dumb enough to attack their warship, i attack them when i can win
And i can find those opportunities
but this one actually totally sounds like it's in yoru control. whip your alliance into shape, or join a diff one.
if they can't appreciate a hard working player such as yourself, maybe another team will.
Choices....there's some to be made, including doing nothing.
well lvl 41s attack lvl 31 all the time and a lvl 31 doeesnt have a chance to win.. yet Scopely says its the best they can do to make pvp fair for all
you all miss the whol point like Scopely
Sounds more like you want a pve server with an "i win" button
No we get your point and trying to help with options and you donโt want to listen ๐๐
no no, we hear your point.... lol it's just...... well........ i happen to have a different opinion, and i'm being kind. ๐
Itโs been nearly an hour of going round and round the same thing ๐๐๐
NO want it a bit more even my Bortas maxed out can npot even start to defend against a maxed out enterprise
Yes, i get my butt handed to me plenty of times when a big 2-3mil shows up to defend a raid. But i also use strategy to beat them when i can. And yes, I can't win every event, but in a strong alliance i can win most of em
so max an enterprise?
i'm kidding i'm kidding. that would make you a whale. i kid i kid
at 31 you can not build the enterprise..
Or just get strong enough to make that enerprise blow up 10-20 times on your base. Sit back and laugh
again you all miss the whole point
But I can WANT TO real bad
Anyone have the final scores in yesterdayโs world leaderboard?
Thought it might be here in the event section
Ty
@dreamy root uh oh. someone skipped one too many events.
oh is this still going on? lol i'll come back later.
Time to buy the $19.99 point pack
Yea if you want too finish, thereโs one more day?? so you should get it, if not get a point pack
oh is this still going on? lol i'll come back later.
@nova valley did you not finish yet? Today is domination, so just promote an officer and call it a day
no, i was referring to cactus's screenshot. he's 4500 points shy of finishing and today is the last day
I assume by this point he's promoted an officer or pumped a couple hundred lat into leveling a ship
I'm running out of trash officers to level up for those events though
yeah i've started banking allllllm y ship xp. i'm up to about 800k now. cause very very soon i'm gonna need that for domination lol
Oh right yeah ends in 17 hours. I thought we had one more day. Yup get a small points pack if you want the final reward
@dreamy root
@nova valley currently listening to your pod as you suggested. First I've heard of yours and I must say you have the voice for radio ๐๐
why have a leaderboard when it's totally inaccurate compared to the announced results?
<@&509691205798592532> @abstract gate <@&509690795536941056>
doesn't appear joint fourth place from the community's view of the leaderboard.....
The whole thing is inaccurate. 1 person per server...that represents the server? Scope has already made a few micro admissions on why servers canโt be merged...but at least present a UNIVERSAL Event that the ENTIRE SERVER participates and is counted. Not just a few whales who obviously donโt have daily obligations like you average player.
It's just a typo, no need to make a big fuss out of it
Enterprise used to be labeled as a 4* explorer, and the valdore used to be labeled a battleship they did fix those over time though
problem with that is vastly different server populations
You can find them all over
I am a little jealous that I canโt afford to drop $250k on STFCand then not work and kill reds all day.
But sure...they need more Frames and bonus refines.
Lol
Time to create the โWorm Holeโ token and let people transfer servers...since you guys canโt figure out how to create real competition.
Question, battle pass finish in about 13 hours, but event schedule show there is another day of burst event after so will it be COW the day after?
@weary jewel
Seems like it went well, but what will happen when everyone is competing?
currently listening to your pod as you suggested. First I've heard of yours and I must say you have the voice for radio ๐๐
@tall valley hahaha thatโs cos he used to actually work as a radio DJ๐๐
We had two in the top ten damn
I need help.. I guess I lvled and tiered up several of my ships, but the event for ship upgrades says I didnโt do any.. is that right?
If the event says G3 and you levelled up using G2 materials then yes it is correct read the event description if it is an error and you should have gotten pts then contact customer support in game
Did you use ship XP to level up or kill hostiles
Yes on 1 and i tiered up my NS too.
Then you should have scored pts for spending ship XP contact customer support in game
I used the gold cubes for exp and I went and lvled by killing.
In game? How?
Sorry new to this game. ๐
Go to 'settings' 'Legal & Help' 'HELP/FAQ' then top right corner you should a 'contact us' link
Thank you ๐๐ป
You're welcome
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Anyone know if we're actually getting an event today, or is it just more dom and flash events?
I really hope I win. Iโve never done a solo in Gyaโhan before
there will be more flash events. the calendar is clear. today is the last day of them though, for this arc.
Crucible? Maybe?
I'd really be happy if they just made disco refinery tokens farmable and never did a flash event again.
Haloween event rewrds fail
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What in the sweet hell is this? ๐๐คฃ๐๐ผ๐คฃ๐๐ผ๐คฃ
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Yay CoW. Oh wait a dodgy event๐ค
What can I do with these token? ๐ง
scroll to the far right of your alliance store for a rather insignificant amount of resources
Goto Alliance Store
Donโt have this, only this
The news says that the tokens can be redeemed for resources or speedups
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Is there no BP event today? Nothing for the last day of the arc?
The arc is finished
It's the last day of it, still 24 hours of flash events.
battle pass is finished
Doh
So totally scopely to put out a calendar for the "battle pass season" but actually have the battle pass end a day early.
Right, why have events still going when the season is over?
the flash event is seperate from the battlepass
Text says one thing, schedule says another.
Makes it look like it's still today regardless of the text, just standard scopely not having their crap together.
Re: new Halloween event.
<sarcasm>
Oh boy, just what I wanted, a faction hunt event without the ability to earn faction credits.
I only need 100โs of thousands of them, why wouldnโt I want to earn something else
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I just noticed that aswell
but you get burnham shards and disco parts and little bit of dil if you complete AMS
that is your trade off
So they offer it as a reward to choose from so u get nothing more than normal cheers. Donโt know why they try make a thing out of this
you get faction credits.. check event store
Crucible of war was better, some decent uc officers (chen zhou djoki...) and uc of your choice
So i now have 16k credits that i cant spend
You can pick faction credits with those gummy things
This is the best version of faction hunt I have ever seen great job scopley
The alliance gift is kind of annoying. Turn ins one at a time, and I'm maxed out for the day 30 minutes after it went live
Still 100 uc less than a cow
So they offer it as a reward to choose from so u get nothing more than normal cheers. Donโt know why they try make a thing out of this
@narrow dragon The good thing is you can get the same rewards if you want to - through event store - but you also get a choice to take something you could use more (like in my case independent credits to tier augments). Having more choice is always awesome
Why not if they did it as a reward event give you the normal reward plus then a choice of something worth wile
Just like on recent battle pass they only gave battle pass points and no other rewards. Just a way to not give players worth wile things
Our alliance likes the Trek or Treat events much more than faction hunt, especially the bigger guys. It's nice to allow them to get more points for hitting in dark space and finish faster rather than having to kill hundreds of hostiles for it.
Its great event, good rewards
Would like to see indy credits ability to share with alliance
The share option on the faction rewards is really interesting because, if everybody in the alliance hits share, everybody in the alliance gets bigger rewards.
and yes, sharing the independent credits would be the only improvement that I would like to see.
at lvl 36 I get 1670 credits where as a lvl 30 gets 1070
so the alliance avg level is what will make it worth it and if you can get the entire alliance to participate in sharing
If avg player is above lvl 32 you would need to have 70+ people sharing to keep it even and fair
And if everyone prefers faction creds over indy
the most likely outcome is some get indy creds for themselves and some get butthurt about not getting as much faction creds as they were expecting from sharing, which seems a sub-optimal outcome from a 'fun' event
We have 77 members in our alliance currently. On average, 75 score points in events, and 70 complete their solo events.
Also, eat at Ops 35 gives 1170 faction credits, so definitely easier to get to that number with share.
and 870 at ops 31, according to a member of my alliance.
The little guys are giving up less to give everybody more, and the bigger guys are asked to give up more to do the same
It's called Socialism.
Why has capitol traders spawns been nerfed?
Hasnt been changed since the Heavies were introduced
Unfortunately it can get super unlucky with Heavies filling up the systems
Has always been that way(since the change)
When does this event store close?
Wasnโt showing on mine. After several restarts it is showing now.
Okay, think we are getting it extended as well
Yeah, had timer on alliance milestone event but didnโt know if store would close at same time or have a little leeway after.
Love that they broke the Distinguished Service gold badges not paying out correctly. Flash event gold badge does not mean squat. Going by flash event placing 1-5 gets 300k, 6-10 200k and 11-15(?) getting 100K Get gold badge but bronze points as placed 11th. Another bring something new, break something old event lol.
As usual. Shytty rewards.
Scopely is the most unappreciative company around.
Canโt even make a player happy.
Like I need para trit or dil.
Give us something we can really use
Like BPโs or UC
And now they are trying to put a cap on alliance gifts from purchases. Our uncommon gifts 10x limit was reached 2 hours after it started. It's bad enough to still RIP us off with your $129 Canadian packs. Now you cap the gifts as well
These are replacement for the rewards that are FREE from when people buy Packs @idle grove
The event rewards are in Event Store
@meager galleon Still. They suck azz.
I might have missed the convo but anyone getting random points for killing reds? Anywhere from 10 pts as the event says to 1000+ for the trick or treat?
Would you prefer a 3 minute speed ups instead ?
Lol. They have those anyways.
The banner likely updates the point score from the last time with everyone combined @leaden mauve
I would prefer something useful
Random materials are useful, and they are token gestures from when people buy money packs, completely free to 59-70+ players in an alliance
So if I see 60 pts that means 6 people in my alliance is participating.. dumb
Please complain about things worth complaining about, not about free rewards
Apologies. I will refrain myself next time.
@leaden mauve LOL. ITS THE SCOPELY WAY
More confusion is a better chance at screwing you over. Just like their support staff.
Itโs hard to train good monkeys these days and their coders are more then likely baboons.
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@idle grove you are pushing the limit of acceptable talk...
Okay. Sorry. But truth be told.
Its great event.
Alliance rewards from purchased packs are ๐ฉ, but its usually ๐ฉ๐ฉ, so its improvement.
System of sell/eat/share is great and would only like to see indy credits in share too.
Also, they could bring one more alliance milestone, we finished ours in under 4h
Yes I do like the sharing part. That I have to admit was exceptional.
Improve the value of the packs not give the freeloaders that complain about the whales, gifts from the whales.
It was prob made easy intentionally since it is holiday and not many might be playing
Could be...basicly just a bit of tweaking and its great event...much better than usual hostile hunt
Freeloaders ๐ ๐ youโre serious ?
many are proud freeloaders ๐
I say up the pack value by 5x to make them slightly useful and give the purchaser the ability to share any or all rss in the pack with their alliance members. specific or otherwise. That would be neat.
How do you freeload off a 3minute repair speed up lol
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if you got it free then... well. You answered your own question. ๐
You funny
I found an old photo of these Halloween events.
This is the worst rewards yet for the ammount of work and costs involved.
Have you looked in the event store..
Its one of best events. And for sure one of best first iteration of new event/mechanic they releassd
Well done with the event store. Thank you for offering independent credits. Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
I really like the eat / share / sell mechanic.... whether faction hunt is fun or not is debateable.. but as a mechanic for the rewards that's A1
FH is also a lot easier/better since they adjusted scoring for this event. I hated how lvl40+ gave soo little points and had to kill 100 for each faction
hello
I'm not even going to bother with these events, I don't want to dignify them via participation.
I'm not even going to bother with these events, I don't want to dignify them via participation.
@junior ingot
Wow really? And whyโs that??
Heโs trolling. Silly, silly troll.
Dont care
Maybe there were 3 fed shares?
Ummm, Scopely? Y'all forgot two 0s at the end of these ๐ ๐ ๐
They're a replacement for the Alliance rewards from people buying packs as o understood, which are worse usually..
@junior ingot
Wow really? And whyโs that??
@earnest hornet
Freaking Gummies? Not just gummies, but a microscopic species from earth that's used in an incredibly stupid way in Discovery aka water bears, Gagh aka worms, and then a romulan ship? What, they couldn't think of something even lamer for the romulans? No romulan peach rings or octopuses?
The Tribble thing was strange but this is just ridiculous.
๐ฏ% Jumping the shark.
It's a Halloween candy, WGAF, geez..
Yea exactly ๐
Itโs a quirky lil event. Like valentines or Christmas or New Years. We always get silly little fun holiday events like this. The rewards for required effort are actually top notch
loving the indy credits @nova valley
And the active nanoprobes in the same chest. Itโs awesome.
If you spend all 6 of your free gummies on indys itโs 3660. Are these scales by ops? I think they are
I've done every unique event since July 2019 when I leveled up from 14, or earlier if it was possible for a 14.
This just seems extra lame.
Add in the pathetic new alliance gift chests... Those aren't even worth the effort. They should give us an option to turn that feature off, like they should do for the worthless 10 min gifts.
It makes me feel like this game is even more of a waste of time than it was yesterday.
....... dont disagree Iโm not a fan of the alliance gift thing. BUT what we USED to get for a 99.99 pack was a single 5 min speedup.
Although Iโd rather have the speedup than rss lol
watch the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves
But itโs not supposed to be big
And why would you turn off the 10 min chest? Thatโs just silly.
I'm level 33 and from 1 rare and 1 regular, I got 25k dil. That's not worth my time.
Would you prefer 25k dil or a 5 min speedup?
Because it's annoying having that pip there. I don't want to waste my time, but don't want the pip there either.
send them to me ! i'll have your free gifts lol
I'd rather just open all alliance gifts at once and not have to go open 2 more things.
I have at least 250 mil dil including tokens
I totally understand and agree with your point about the alliance gifts being piddly. But theyโre supposed to be. They used to be 5 min speedups. So yeah. Are what they are. But Iโm not gonna say turn em off. Lol
Theone, I would if I could ๐คทโโ๏ธ
And I easily get 50 alliance gifts some days. Sometimes all from the same person.
You have that 250 mil dil in PART from 10 min chests. Lol
Is he bragging? I canโt tel now. Lol
0.001% maybe.
Sorry.
Now I know youโre making stuff up. Youโve definitely gotten more than 2500 dil from 10 min chests. Fibber.
Dil was the easiest thing to raid for a while on my server.
I've also lost probably at least 75 mil dil from getting raided. Maybe 100 mil.
1 upgrade/research now probably uses more than all the dil I've ever gotten from gift chests.
The 10 min chests are strictly to manipulate people into spending more time in game. Which is the opposite of what I want to do. You do the math for why I dislike them.
Maybe if I start telling everyone about the sunk cost fallacy I can get myself banned ๐
I don't even click on them anymore
I'm pretty sure the point of the free alliance gift is just psychology to try and get more of us to spend money ๐ค
And I open 10 minute chests for the lat, need all the lat ๐
@robust vapor don't say that to loudly, scopley might send some thugs after you lol
yeah basically
if they wanted this event to be fun they would have set the bar super low, rather than add on more grind that just makes people think other people spent money
Compared to normal faction hunts, the bar is super low.
This event is easiest yet, and the tokens are just what you want. Only other place to get them is faction store. It's a ๐ from this hamsta
@stable hamlet The event is cool and worth it. The alliance chest are super meh. 36k dil for a rare chest pull when my research cost 10 mil each is weak.
Great gifts for the alliance tokens - what have you guys been smoking
Great fir a lvl 10 maybe
Why the limit on alliance tokens ? Kinda disappointing that I canโt use them all
Why the limit on alliance tokens ? Kinda disappointing that I canโt use them all
@unique quiver you just use them the next day.
What about the 1โs I get the next day ?
Iโm going to have extra I canโt use
@earnest hornet
1st world problems
Iโm going to have extra I canโt use
@unique quiver
Thatโs only if you have more then 10 packs bought in your alliance everyday. I highly doubt that is going to be happening
yeah flavor events should be easy and give flavor rewards
We get screwed again by scopel's worthless event items.. who ever makes these event are idiots
@young flicker smoking LOGIC
If every alliance member does the alliance gift
What do you get?
5,500 roughly faction credits
And 5,500 recruit tokens
Oh we talking aboht the rewards for packs? Yeah they suck
We get screwed again by scopel's worthless event items.. who ever makes these event are idiots
@abstract gate have you checked EVENT STORE
this is the EASIEST and MOST rewarding event at the same time
Yeah
This is basically a faction hunt with an option to give up the faction credits to claim IND credits
Honestly I wouldn't mind if they replaced faction hunt with this
Since it gives you the option to gather more of what you want
Yea i need that independent credits to max out Khan. ๐ก
@nova valley event is great, however these alliance token rewards are hot ๐ with the exception of the speedups. I could get more rrs running my miner into a dead base.
No @neat owl
Leave the Faction hunt.
Replace hostile hunt with this๐
Nice job on the trek or treat event!
So who voted for Mudd 1.0?
@nova valley definalty better then normal. Minus the alliance tokens .
Stocking up on ultra recruit tokens for the next arc. The credits are a good help too.
@nova valley event is great, however these alliance token rewards are hot ๐ with the exception of the speedups. I could get more rrs running my miner into a dead base.
@granite quarry agreed. the alliance rewards i don'like. but they did say they were testing something new. and i'm not opposed to it, but you gotta change the chance chests.... 5 indys. 5 unc. 25 fac credits. etc etc
but yeah, the ultra recruits are pimpin
If an alliance had at least 67 active members, sharing would give more rewards than just claiming for yourself.
Is today COW or more of this garbage
@outer comet More of this garbage, using your words. The alliance timer would tell you that ๐.
LOL garbage? an event that pays out better than real faction hunt for the effort required.
Yeah, the cap on the alliance gift turn ins sucks. I will slowly build up a massive stockpile of unusable if it stays like this
AGREED. but that's not the event. that's a new gift mechanic. and fyi, i also don't like it lol but the EVENT itself is very cool
As far as i can tell, low 30s I am still doing the exact same or more kills per faction to grind it out.
mmmmm, SHOULD be less.... i had to do roughly 55-60% of the number of kills as a normal faction hunt, so i liked it very very mcuh lol
how many points you need?
it's definitely possible that they scaled this to "fix" the problems with faction hunt for the upper 30's level players. we generally HATE faction hunt cause it requires 300+ hostiles at our levels. it's insanity
and mind numbing. and horribly boring
Yeah, i hear it is easier at higher levels than standard faction, but it's taking me same amount of time hitting ~100 29-31s
I math all day at work, i dont feel like doing the actual conversion since they changed up the scoring numbers to hide it
what's your number of points required?
In standard fh, 610
and ps. at ops 30. you shoudl be hitting way higher than 29-31. if that's all you can hit, then you've outgrown your ships. need to slow down ops and focus on ships for a bit.
no offense intended. i may have misunderstood your situation lol
but you should always be hitting up 5-7 levels from your ops. if not, you've gone too fast.
Oh i do 36 for my dailies, i do 30s for fh so one ship can do 2 factions worth before repairing
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL well dude... hit up a little bit. the points scale up exponentially. lol
you could probably get this event done in 20-30 hostiles
Yeah, but then i have to do repairs
haha, well. that's true. but dailies should be yileding you tons of speedups.
I just kill 1 lvl 49 trader and the event is done for me.
@nova valley why donโt you like the event gift mechanic?
It seem pretty awesome to me everyone in my alliance shared the gummies and we got a nice payout.
Yeah, the cap on the alliance gift turn ins sucks. I will slowly build up a massive stockpile of unusable if it stays like this
@abstract gate what do you mean? Whatโs the cap?
It seem pretty awesome to me everyone in my alliance shared the gummies and we got a nice payout.
@fleet parcel agreed! Higher payout than just eating
The gummy milestone is listed in news as 2 24hour events, not 1 48hour event. Is the news wrong?
Pvp it is then if you can't keep us occupied. Lol.
@raw owl yes
Shame really, 2x24h would have been better we finished the first event yesterday
We had the alliance event done in about 5 hours ๐
Any idea how often the normal transports spawn in the sol/kronos/romulus systems. Always seems to be the heavy transports all the time
@nova valley why donโt you like the event gift mechanic?
@fleet parcel no no no, not that one. i like that one. i'm talking about the tokens that you redeem in the alliance store. those are pitiful. but no the eat share sell is good.
alliance milestone is 1x48. just the solos 2x24
I like the new alliance gifts. scales by ops and you get more than before.sure it isnt enough for anything but if they increase those a lot,then you will have people upgrading stuff totally free with no effort
and you dont complain about gifts doesnt matter how bad they are,because them thinking about you is what matters not how much it is worth
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I think remove the rare and normal and just have the one type have a mix of rewards but have the res as guaranteed and then a chance of something extra (mats, speed ups, alliance tokens, recruit tokens, faction credits)
Why can we only share gummies with our alliance once?
@abstract gate what do you mean? Whatโs the cap?
@drowsy viper 10 each per day. I already have another 2 days worth banked
This is why I donโt like the new system
do the alliance gifts scale by ops level? at ops38 they're still giving a pretty trivial amount of res..
yeah ops based
@shrewd totem I won't stop complaining until I get epic g3 and g4 bps in my gift box
g3 to replace the regular alliance token and g4 for the rare alliance token
Does anyone know when 'Military supremacy' event will begin?
I thought it starts at the end of the month.
if you are eligible its usually with crucible of war
Does level 34 faction ship bps become available in the event store at ops 32?
Does level 34 faction ship bps become available in the event store at ops 32?
@tawny olive they unlock with faction reputation.... need to be "respected" with the faction
information from LCARS2..... http://discord.gg/lcars
How's is this any use for a lvl39....what the heck....
Itโs supposed to be more useful than a 5 min speedup. Remember what they WERE. And it is better. But still small. Which is the point.
The question is, what happens after the timer is expired ๐
More leftover currency that we donโt use? Lol
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use it or lose it....
They should just make a memorial tab next to it. To see all the stuff you canโt use.
Good idea ๐
"heres what you could have used" tab?
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Lol
Luck that the โinventoryโ has endless storage ๐
Next update we must buy a storage package for more useless items ๐
Donโt even think it @restive inlet ๐๐
Lol, if they can sell it they will
Where can I find 4โgas as need to collect for daily
@night ivy do you have access to dark space systems?
if not you should consider lowering your faction reputation.
Thanks have to lower now going to take along time
only take 15 minutes
just grind out vet traders with 4 ships
then pump another faction up and maintain 2nd growth one below tier
what gives? I can't gift the gummies this time around. ends in one day and the one I picked last time isn't available for two days!
Gifting adds more value to your gummy's depending on your alliance's size so it's limited to a one-time use. This also is so that you don't feel/get obligated to pick it over your other options.
But I want to gift it, we're not a big alliance anyway. Are you saying that if we'd saved them there's have been an option to give 2000 rather than just 1000?
No, only just 1000. And if you're a small alliance, it's better to pick the other packs.
Ok thanks mate
Sure thing
Is today start of new arc?
Highly unlikely
๐คทโโ๏ธ probably on "Tuesday", they like to schedule updates for Mining Monday ๐คฃ
CoW first? Please
CoW would be good while they fix some bugs and give us a patch thursday with new arc.
Wow thats alot of Dilithium, what will I ever do with it all. These alliance gift tokens are great!!! in a very sarcastic tone
I was gonna say. When are any of the rewards even galactically close to being not so bad.
My gum ball machine puts out better.
But we all know Scopely math.
Anyone see a date for disco arc 3?
Prob thursday if we get some maitenance
dst seems to have screwed around with stuff
I think if we a have a Mining Event. The Maintaince will be on a Mining Envent ๐ Hopefully this month, maybe the the 10th.
So weโll have Domination for 3 days again ๐ญ
Probably cow
Cow after dom probably, I was expecting cow today ๐
Tuesday is Election Day in the US. I doubt they'll do maintenance on that day.
Actually, I'd prefer some time off before the next arc starts anyway.
Why? Better on thus day, before the Riots begin ๐
Will we see any more regular armada events? The ones where we get Bonus Epic and Rare Armada Pack turn ins?
Will we see any more regular armada events? The ones where we get Bonus Epic and Rare Armada Pack turn ins?
@icy panther i haven't seen them since long ago...
I prefer the system with extra rare directives, much better for free to plays
the one we had 2 months ago on the 'newer' servers was cool. few events rewarding some rare armada tokens.
Is Crucible of war in coming today ?
Can you tell me, if it is possible to get franklin- parts as a f2p commander?
Is such an event planned by scopely ?
you need to wait for event stores
Special Event Stores that offer Blueprints usually during Arc 3 of the content events
I prefer the system with extra rare directives, much better for free to plays
@merry fulcrum
Exactly the reason we won't get it
They gave it the last 2 armada events
I'm new to the game. There was a calendar of events when you first go online. That has gone away lately. Is there a place to see upcoming events?
I'm new to the game. There was a calendar of events when you first go online. That has gone away lately. Is there a place to see upcoming events?
@mighty badger this was for the month Arc specific events, not the events currently, there isnโt a calendar for that.
How long have you been playing, there are a few regular events like the swarm Sunday, and mining Monday ones.
But as for other events no calendar until the new arc starts
Literally started in October...
I guess my biggest fear is not knowing a pvp event is coming and being killed. Lol
In the โdaily eventsโ tab I have a calendar for those.
And a live version http://maqi.infinityfreeapp.com/
That's awesome! Thanks!
I guess my biggest fear is not knowing a pvp event is coming and being killed. Lol
@mighty badger if your new you wonโt be very high level so wonโt be too much of an issue,
Is there another discovery Arc coming? #3
Is there another discovery Arc coming? #3
@vagrant inlet there will likely be an arc 3 ๐
Oh the pain and agony. Lol
Hopefully with a wonderful event store to make up for all the pain and agony ๐
It will consist of FLASH events on every half hour and BURST events on every full hour
Maybe they add ZOOM on quarter an hour
For 3 quarter an hour they are still working hard on a name
I don't really care what they do for events so long as we get the event store lol. Only good thing that rolls around with the 3rd part of an arc.
This time around, if they release store with officers and things we saw in first two arcs, mine will be used for uncommons
For me it's always the same thing and that's ship BPs. Might have to grab some g3 mats as well since I'm not far from lvl40 as well lol.
Yes need a 2nd stella. Having 1 is ludicrous
This is actually the main thing i think Scopley needs to fix for newer players. Having the ability to get bps for these specialty ships all the time, not just occasionally. New players need things like the franklin to do dailies, even if its available for others to get more bps. Most dont want or care to have a second franklin, vidar, discovery and its not that helpful to have more than 1. Stella may be an exception but you really only need 2. Why would you as a company make it harder for your new players to play your game and advance. Active players can become paying players afterall. No reason not to have a f2p way to get these ships all the time as they were f2p to begin with.
I only have one ste;lla here and I am a f2p refuse to pay Scopely for crappy packages that are over priced for what they offer.. One does me fine
I scraped for the 3rd time my 2nd stella XD over 1M stella particules in stocks
How do you have 1m particles?
@rough mulch @twilit imp it seems we have a mismatch with event timers, mining event started at 4pm uk time but the previous event ends at 5pm uk time this is causing confusion
you need to make sure the event resets are set to the proper winter time
Anyone elseโs lat mining not counting in event?
Had a member report that. I haven't reset yet
@long dust Kinda, had 2 survey ships out, brought one back and got point, 2nd one gave me nothing ๐ฆ
The domination one started 15 mins late yesterday then ended at the old time. Lat and daily events started at new time. Why are clocks so difficult to understand for the developers?
So Europe changed their clocks a week early and scopely immediately changed the event schedule. The US changes their clocks and.....nothing gets changed.
@modern estuary the time was proper until scopely changed it last week. Then they forgot to fix it today.
@alpine snow honestly itโs pretty complicated haha. I work for an electricity auction platform and there is serious rss put to this twice a year
Me trying to figure out how scopley time works
I dunno, I was in IT during y2k and we figured that out... those were the days
The good old days haha
Yeah all depends on solution implemented obviously
And of course itโs doable enough to figure out. But it will need rigorous testing. And to be fair, it will depend on technical risk and business priority. As compared to some of the projects Iโve worked on, Iโd say stfc event start times are merely a minor nuisance
All true, but how many time changes has this game been around for? Has it ever been smooth?
Iโd guess this is the fifth time
It comes across terribly sloppy but apart from that Iโd rather they focus on the memory hog and multiple times a day crashes
But if a time change is too much for them to handle, what are the odds the other stuff gets fixed?
Am I a total idiot thinking there was going to be a 3rd disco arc?
iirc previous arc was the first to be released after a less than a week gap. All the previous ones were a week and a half. So no one knows ๐