32s can be taken down with a Kumari, lvl 26 faction ship, lvl 28 faction ship, and a vidar. All of those can be grinded relatively easily, so they can grind the event with multiple ships. That's less likely at higher levels
#🏆-event-chat
pulsar hound
Unless what you're really saying is "I've spent quite a bit and now the event seems to be less effort than those who haven't spent as much." To which I would say is how scopely works
rose sphinx
So the logic has to do with repair costs & the cost of the actual ship needed.....if I am understanding correctly
pulsar hound
I think the logic is meant to encompass the effort involved, inclusive of cost, grinding time, etc
Also I don't work for scopely though so I'm just going off of what I've seen
shrewd totem
Yeah all of these are just guesses and opinions. They havent said anything official about this sadly
rose sphinx
Thanks, Phil, Batman & Stan, for your input on this. Greatly appreciated! 😄😄😄
abstract gate
Essentially the difficulty is set so that if you have unwisely rushed your ops you will have to pony up the cash to do the events...if you've kept your ships in line with your lvl it should be fine regardless of which bracket you are in. It's all about the Benjamin's
fervent folio
It's all about planning ahead
abstract gate
For us yes...for scopely it always circles back to $'s
fervent folio
if you plan ahead, plan to take it slow and grind things out, you can be successful without spending much...up to a certain point anyway
but that's how most f2p games work, it's not p2w, it's p2w faster
abstract gate
F2p and p2w can both fall into the rushing trap. It's just a lot harder to dig yourself out of the hole as f2p
dapper drum
freemium is the way to go
take your time enjoy the scenario feast on your enemies bowels
fervent folio
yup, that's what I do. I tend to spend an average of $30/Month. $20 on month, $40 the next. So like this month I bought the Premium Rewards for the Battle Pass. Next month, assuming there is something similar, I'll buy it plus another $20 pack of some sort. I stay pretty strong for my level this way, only progressing when I know my ships can handle the increase in difficulty of new dailies.
and really, $30/Month is what I used to spend dual-boxing WoW
keeps me ahead of the f2pers and the whales zip right past me, so I am generally in a pretty good spot
drowsy viper
I’ll also add that if you upgrade the ships too much, there’s a risk they’re too costly to repair. I haven’t checked, but I don’t know if the hull increase (and therefore the number of ships killed before repair) in a T8 Kumari compensates the increase in trit costs, respect to a T7 Kumari.
I think ships have a “sweet” point where the farming and the costs are better balanced
fervent folio
yeah, I make sure my ships are "just" able to complete the increase in difficulty and don't take them too far. That goes right along with planning ahead. You can look up all the repair costs on LCARs, so you know exactly what you are getting in to.
abstract gate
Aye t6-7 kumari is absolutely fine cost vs reward of tiering further doesn't add up
By the time you've got it that far you should have or be close to having a lvl28 faction ship
solemn sequoia
which will outclass a capped kumari by like t3/4
abstract gate
Yup, more fool you if you cap a kumari though...t7 was more than enough up to lvl32 for me and that was before the ship rebalancing
dapper drum
after the pvp level banding change you needed a max kumari with cadet scotty to knock 20's off 25k nodes with their NS
if you were 24 and didn't have an NS
other than that absolutely no reason to bring a kumari beyond 7
delicate estuary
<@&509690795536941056> What is up with the change to swarm rewards? Going from decent shards of Khan to a pathetic amount of ultra tokens is awful
south arrow
Scopley screwing us as normal 🤣
tropic imp
Yes they are
nocturne orchid
I typically try and avoid complaining about events. However Data Mining? Again?
And a TFB with screwed rewards but same points needed?
Truly trying to tank your game
charred shadow
Where are the shards in the swarm events?
delicate estuary
One Ultra pull, so actually less shards
tropic imp
Garbage
charred shadow
If it’s only for today I can live with it
tropic imp
Lol it won't be
charred shadow
But it better not be that way come Swarm Sunday
fervent folio
If you don;t like the events...don't do them. Data Mining is not part of the Battle Pass and even if it was most people have completed it already anyway
tropic imp
We've been scopely'd
south arrow
Yep I expect to be screwed by scopley and if I’m not makes me happy 🤣
ripe axle
Dear Scopely, why do you keep forcing us to relo to low level systems for target practice event?? This is annoying to say the least.
fervent folio
they are not forcing you to do anything. You can skip the event if it's not worth 2 relo's to you
tropic imp
@fervent folio cool story
fervent folio
they are not forcing you to do anything. You can skip the event if it's not worth it to you.
tropic imp
@fervent folio cool story
south arrow
🤣
delicate estuary
@fervent folio That works for Data mining. They nerfed the rewards for Swarm which is likely a permanent and unnecessary change
tropic imp
Not to mention Khan isn't even in the new Aug packs
fervent folio
or just a change for the Battle Pass and will not affect normal Swarm Sunday
delicate estuary
Betcha it's planned to be permanent
Generate enough displeasure and it may not be
carmine lily
Super nerfy on the threat from beyond rewards. Thanks a lot scopely
fervent folio
If you are done with Battle Pass, which most people are, then just don't do it. No one is forcing you to. For those that missed a couple days, they have an option to complete Battle Pass. If the rewards are the same on Sunday, then complain. I'm betting they go back to normal for regular Swarm Sunday though
carmine lily
Not worried about battle pass, finished that ages ago.
fervent folio
then don;t do the event if the rewards are not worth it to you...pretty simple concept
tropic imp
@fervent folio cool story
shrewd totem
It isnt story it is facts
fervent folio
I'm gonna do it, just because I also need to farm freq modulators, so I'll get it
and also, please stop pinging me
carmine lily
Didn’t say they weren’t worth it, just commenting on the nerf. Scopely has actually been listening to the players lately so it helps to speak up
shrewd totem
Dont like the event? Not worth it for you? Just dont do it. There is nothing that says you must do all the events
fervent folio
well, my OCD says I must do all events, so there's that
tropic imp
True but why wouldn't players voice their displeasure? It's how changes are made
fervent folio
then take it to #💬-events-feedback
fervent folio
that's the place to give feedback
vestal heron
So once again scopely takes our surveys and creates a one sided event. Yes PvP was the favorite but now every one is the same and those with jelly benefit the most. Why can’t you make it available for higher level players. Sure I might even spend money on it. I know you love to hear that.
tropic imp
This is an event
So it can go in event chat
Or do u not understand the concept of an event
fervent folio
yes, but it's feedback about the event
tropic imp
Lol straw man
fervent folio
if you want them to read your feedback, it should go in feedback
vestal heron
No changes are made when we like something. Then Scopely can take it and twist it so the can charge you for it
shrewd totem
People asked for shards in swarm events to be changed. It isnt something they thought and come up with randomly
delicate estuary
What numbskulls would have asked to get less total shards and take away a good source of Khan shards?
fickle sphinx
Great suggestion.... give every player like lvl 26 and up 25 jelly prints. Pretty sure this would allow a large number of players to build the jelly which they could use for the target practice events.
And giving them to lvl 26 and up would not change the game balance since the only use of the jelly at that level would be for an event like the live practice.
Would be nice to not be target practice for those that were able to get the jelly. I was about 15 prints short doing the events when I was lower level and didn’t want to pay into the game.
fervent folio
you didn't want to pay, you don't get the advantages those of us that did do. Sorry, not sorry.
drifting bridge
🧐
novel rampart
hybrid ibex
I got it too
left yoke
Khan shards change was boneheaded move
drifting bridge
Oh yeah
delicate estuary
At least I know what we're doing in a year
crisp jasper
Where's my year long DOMINATION?
vale rover
i wish it was target practice... at lvl 17 having to kill at least a swarm lvl 18 to get a point that's almost impossible without having spent money on jelly...
fickle sphinx
@fervent folio no, it is called not paying $50 for a ship that would be useless to me in 3 levels vs paying $20 for a ship that was useful for 10 levels. NS was a way better buy than the Jelly back then. They did also provide a way to grind a jelly. I missed one event which means I was 15 prints short. It is called being smart with my purchases instead of throwing money at Scopely and then complaining that it is a crash grab like so many other people here. Tired of seeing people that spend hundreds on the game and then complain they don’t get their money’s worth. I feel like I have gotten my money’s worth so far in the game. But I am very picky with my purchases and if there is a way to grind something then I will grind it. Just wish they wouldn’t make such a one sided event with out giving us a way to grind the jelly again. Plus, I am a collector. I like having one of every ship. I am weird like that, I know.
Also, they even took away the way to purchase one. Maybe even bring that back. Just not $50.
shrewd totem
You can do the event without Jelly
fickle sphinx
Yes, cause my 60k talla can hold its own agains a 100k+ jelly 
fervent folio
I feel like I got my money's worth out of jelly. Only paid $20 for it myself. I was also of great use as I parked at 14 a while and allowed me to get dailies and stuff done very easily
dapper drum
I was taking out 130k jellies with 67k phinnie
shrewd totem
Yes, cause my 60k talla can hold its own agains a 100k+ jelly 🤦
@fickle sphinx yes it can
dapper drum
but got boring doing one win at a time
so I sent in jelly and phinnie and mopped up 😈
shrewd totem
You just need to know the special secret crew🤐
fervent folio
And, I have it now which makes this unnecessary event easier
dapper drum
I finished at 29 wins to 3 losses before moving onto TFB
fickle sphinx
Would love to see that crew.
shrewd totem
Yuki as cap/Mirek/Krel you can find some screenshots of fights in here if you search the past posts
fickle sphinx
You are also assuming that the 100k+ jelly has a crappy crew. I know for sever 13 we have an awesome knowledge share going among the top alliances and work out crews. So most of the 30+ players have great crews.
dapper drum
most jelly will either run yuki with marcus and khan/someother or kirk with spock and bones/khan/carol/yuki etc
shrewd totem
You WILL win if you have a good Talla and decent anti-fed officers
dapper drum
you have to pick your fights
don't go up against a shield regen if you are not set to regen
and 100% spock would work in this case too because of the low damage output of g2s
fickle sphinx
@shrewd totem I’ll give that crew a try. I was running Gorkon on one talla and Javiad on the other. I would take a bit out of them but not winning
dapper drum
problem with mirek and krell is you need officer stats to make them effective enough, mirek vs mirek comes down to defense points
shrewd totem
Javaid is crap
dapper drum
3 jellies I faced with same crew as mine and i was dealing 22k while they only dealt 10k to 12k
fickle sphinx
I know Javaid used to be broken. I thought they fixed him.
shrewd totem
He isnt broken just not effective
fickle sphinx
It is also times like this it makes me wish they provided crew layout saves. For easy swapping.
vague narwhal
Great of Scopely to swap multiple rare and epic officer shards with not enough ultra tokens to not even open 1 chest 😑😑😑
fickle sphinx
Maybe I will revisit my bortas layout then and try some one besides javaid.
novel hollow
Is there any uses for battle points when you’ve completed battle pass?
novel hollow
No event store ... lol
shrewd totem
Event store -> coming thoon
dense lantern
So, a night off the game then... these events are not good.
shrewd totem
Panic said there will be an event store in #🔒qna-outlaw just not when and what we will use as currency
dense lantern
Even messed with the swarm event rewards
shrewd totem
I like the new rewards 🤷♂️
modest oyster
Just tried killing a bunch of low level hostiles, 2* ship parts no bps 😦
guess might have to skip this pvp event lol
fickle sphinx
I think they would be better if there are enough to get an officer chest. I didn’t notice the change honestly.
novel hollow
so get battle points in case...
fickle sphinx
Well. That crew was crap. I haven’t leveled yuki krell and mirek though. So dropped my talla to 50k. I am lvl 28. A lvl 22 with a 80k jelly popped me with a mining crew.
Took half their hull though. So guess there is that.
mental yoke
Yeah. Mine are low too and haven’t won yet with that crew.
abstract gate
Anyone mentioned we can't spend the zeta tokens from data alb due to timers?
novel hollow
Ability to use Recruit Chest and ALB end the same time
mental yoke
Reason #632 not to do data event. 😂
abstract gate
<@&509691205798592532> someone wanna mention that 👆 to the ops team?
Maybe extend zeta recruit by a couple of hours
velvet atlas
Is there some kind of bug on Yuki, or wth is this?
full cedar
We’ve just got the officer event that is shards instead of xp on our server, but there’s a leaderboard event that’s still xp. Does someone from a sever that’s had new officer events for a while know if that’s permanent or if this is a weird crossover on event reset where we’ve got officer leaderboard xp and solo shards event, basically, could this be the last xp leaderboard event?
prisma geode
I doubt it
They will probably run both
Not sure why you guys get so caught up in the random daily events/burst events. If you are leveling an officer, ship, or station I just look at them as a bonus.
inner loom
I try to time upgrades with events to maximize the rewards. The xp officer event was always a nice recurring way to grow officers and get rewards. The random shard event doesn’t really align with my other strategies around recruiting. I’m less inclined to drop my ultra tokens on the random event when I want to save them for ALB recruit events where rewards are typically far better.
I’m still slowly upgrading the officers when the events come around. I have plenty of officers at max promotion but 10 to 15 levels yet to upgrade. Occasionally I’ll do a LB. But really for the same xp I’d rather do a bunch of limited officer xp events over time
full cedar
Not sure why you guys get so caught up in the random daily events/burst events. If you are leveling an officer, ship, or station I just look at them as a bonus.
@prisma geode Ermm.. i more than double the output of the refinery every week just by doing the upgrades I was going to do anyway but when the event happens. Rarely do I wait more than 24hours for the correct event to roll around.
lusty atlas
Anyone knows if there is a higher ”event bracket” than 40+?
weak copper
Level cap is 50 so I would presume not
merry fulcrum
There's some research that can't be completed until after level 50 though.....
robust vapor
Wasn't there stuff beyond the old 39 cap too though before they increased it?
unique hedge
No more officer recruit events?
raw zenith
there were two events yesterday, one to spend officer exp the other to recruit.
cold halo
Unreal. Lol
river sedge
This data mining crap is ridiculous. Noone wants to do this. Make the nodes 1 million, let people set their miners there and be done with it.
raw zenith
if it was 1m it would go back to old speed. You can mine much faster this way.
i prefer this method
river sedge
Switching nodes every 7 seconds or so? Seriously, you prefer this?
raw zenith
yes. in 10 minutes i get almost 2 days worth of data. 30 minutes a full week of refines
raw zenith
then why still mine it?
river sedge
For the event
raw zenith
ah, i quit event out of boredom
river sedge
Right. That is the entire problem. Needing to mine 790k at 3700 a node, at switching nodes every 7 seconds.
Make the nodes 1m, let people set the ship and go kill people.
raw zenith
the intent imo was to decrease time needed to spend in augment space mining. Would you be complaining if you could mine g3 that fast?
maybe they are testing out a new method and if successful it will migrate to other resources, but prob not with everyone complaining
abstract gate
Mine take 12secs to empty (fk putting crystal into that research) so the event takes me a little over an hour...I'm fine with that tbh. After tonights event and the conclusion of outlaws I'll not have to revisit yarda for months
raw zenith
yea i like it. Just wish i could mine trit, dil and para that fast
abstract gate
It's a pita no doubt but it's no worse than grinding 300+ faction hostiles for faction hunt and you lot love that 🐂 💩
raw zenith
after locking all three major factions im over killing hundreds of hostiles daily
abstract gate
Same...I find data mining for an hour oddly zen
Hostile grinding can trigger my migraines but data actually eases my symptoms....
river sedge
@raw zenith no, g3 is useful for my ships. I dont need data.
@abstract gate until the next event in what, 10 days. Was the last one about 1 orv2 weeks ago?
abstract gate
I will say data + swarms + pvp is a bit much though lol
@river sedge afaik they are part of outlaws arc so tonight should see the end of them for a while
river sedge
@abstract gate man, I hope so. It is so monotonous.
abstract gate
They are like the probe hunts during borg arcs
river sedge
For some reason, and maybe it's just my viewpoint, but killing and hunting is more palatable than mining.
abstract gate
Depends how much there is....1hr with a maxed bb is ok, if it was much more than that it'd start to irritate me i think
river sedge
I dont know of anyone on my server that enjoys this data mining event. Some aren't even participating.
abstract gate
Enjoy might be a little strong...I find it easy to get into a rhythm and before I know it my bb is full and I'm half done already
I definitely wouldn't recommend chasing the leaderboard though...that path lies madness
winged tulip
I'd find it far less bothersome if the nodes weren't bugging out so often on reset
drowsy viper
We do need parsteel, trit and dill to be better because then the farming people will farm and we will have targets to raid
river sedge
I haven't mined any para, trit, or dil, since the last mission that required me to do so.
tawny coyote
@twilit imp <@&509691205798592532> Hello. You could not think of any better event. Mining data, swarm event at 2 point per killing lvl32 and PVP. The reward are junk and the time that it take to complete a swarm event at 2 point per kill is ridiculous.
teal jackal
We think of many better events. But we have no power. We're not devs.
wise sundial
There should be a room for comms with devs would be nice
graceful minnow
Made this showing how Scopley chooses their events.
- Roll dice to see how many events are running.
- https://wheelofnames.com/4w7-6xw
dapper drum
the devs are too smart for that @wise sundial
sour lotus
I really like the swarm event. You get rare crystal, trit tokens and officer tokens. Thats the stuff i need right now. Its not massive reward but with a decent ship or frank it is appropriate considering the effort.
plush condor
I prefer the new data mining method as well. Way better and faster for day-to-day stuff. The solo data event is a beat down though, it's need adjusted downward in my opinion. Even mining with a max bb/research/officer it takes me 35minutes of on/off node every 6 seconds for nearly 200 times.
If nothing changes though I sure hope we get better avenues to spend our data on. I mean what am I supposed to do with 6M decoded data that I've exclusively mined at the minimum for finishing the solo events.
tawny coyote
@sour lotus I could see if it would give you more than 2 point per lvl32 if you have to do that at 2 points it take a very long time.
vital cape
Why on earth is this PvP event always the same 3 ships with the advantage going to Jellyfish owners by a wide margin? Most of us can’t even buy a Jelly if we want to because of the level cutoff in the store.
plush condor
The swarm event is nice, I like it better than the old rewards too @sour lotus
Armstrong you can farm teh heck out the the jellies with the right crew
With a Talla
vital cape
Maybe in another 10 levels. At the moment I can’t get my Talla much past 55k. I hear you on crews, I can melt most explorers with a hybrid burning and Borg setup. A 55k vs 105k isn’t happening though. It’ll never be a fair fight between matched levels and crews either.
And again... the same 3 ships every time? If they were balanced ships maybe
Like... give me matching T1 faction ships or something
plush condor
Yea the Talla maxes out ~87k.
vital cape
Jelly has 7 tiers, Talla and LOLphindra don’t
The idea of level-normalized stock combat that pits clever crews against one another in an armada format would be awesome. Spending a bunch of time throwing resources at loosing to 98% paid ships I can’t even buy if I want to anymore is 100% un-fun
dapper drum
all g2s have 7 tiers
g3 has 9
g4 has 12
and if a 67k phindra can beat a 130k jelly with the right crew then doesn't matter
problem is they don't give us emergency talla and include the turas
I runna run the G2 crew phinny with tally, tura and jelly
i'm too lazy to farm low doubles
abstract gate
They keep running this event so they can sell more jellies.
novel hollow
And the talla being near maxxed
I guess I’ll save the. Ext one I max
If the stupid 2* refinery would start working again.
plush condor
@median slate swap Kang for Bones. They haven't given me any trouble regardless of what they have. I haven't tried the Bones capt though, but Kang has been good.
I like the Bones idea in theory a lot though. I'll have to compare how he works out.
tepid condor
No, just feeding the Jellies is all it is. I have tried your combos, and dozens of other suggested crews. It's always the same - feeding the Jellies. Not much sport in that, is there?!
fervent folio
heck, I'm 22 and have a Jelly and it's rough cause all the other Jellies are bigger than mine due to more research and better officers
I still enjoy it though
vital cape
They keep running this event so they can sell more jellies.
@abstract gate
Makes no sense when you can't buy a Jelly after a certain level anyway.
abstract gate
Yet it does prove to those who can buy it that there is use for it after level 22. Which is why I never bought it, at that time, they didn’t have these style events, so I saw no use for it.
oblique mica
Got mine for free at lvl 19 I think
fervent isle
Cool almost every node in Yarda on my server is broken right now. Thanks
dapper drum
working as intended 🤷
random tide
You can attack those nodes. It won't drop your bubble.
brisk yacht
"Officer recruit event" the other day was a nice break from standard daily events, cheers! More variety in dailies would be welcome. And I have too ask again, can we get Ship XP events back? If this Ship MS events are going to stay can something be done with ridiculous awards when compared to event investment? To mention also officer shards in Threat from beyond is a good change, but also worth mentioning is that lack of "grindable officer badges". Faction stores even in multi faction case just have too few to be considered.
weary jewel
What happened to the Heroic and SLB Officer events that gave Unc 4* parts for rewards? XP events for L40+ players that give 3* rewards are pretty lame.
Try giving the L26-39 players Officer XP events for 2* mats and see what they say....lol
rose sphinx
@weary jewel There are some of us that are 40+ that still need 3* mats....perhaps if players could get a choice would be better.😄
Just saying!
shrewd totem
@weary jewel You will get a mix of shard/exp officer events. So just be patient and wait,heroic will show up eventually
hexed phoenix
Players hitting ops 40 used to get an ISS jelly event to hit 41 in 7 days, has that been removed? New ops 40 players are claiming not to see event.
shrewd totem
There was no such thing
hexed phoenix
Yes there was, a few players got theirs ISS jelly from that event, at least one is in my alliance.
I personally also had an event to jump two ops levels to get the ISS.
shrewd totem
There is 3 ways to get ISS
- From auction events that happens almost every month for lvl36+ players without Jelly
- Epic armada packs
3.rush to ops event for lvl35+. You had to level up twice in a few days to get ISS. This only happened ONCE since Jelly launched at the end of 2019. It was NOT for people who reach lvl40 and it was definitely not 7 days event. It was a simple rush to ops event for lvl35+
So there was no such event like this:
Players hitting ops 40 used to get an ISS jelly event to hit 41 in 7 days
tawdry kindle
Thank god these data events are over...
Now please let’s NEVER ever have them data events again whilst these silly 7-30seconds nodes are around...😡
Cuz despite what’s scopy calling ”more engaging”, I’m just calling it strait out daft... As it’s repetitive, boring, repetitive, yawn, repetitive, annoying, and oh, repetitive...🙈😞
#BringBackNormalSizeNodes
robust vapor
Eh. The data mining changes are fine the event is pretty grindy though 😴 having said that, 263 swarm kills is more kills than resets on data..
tawdry kindle
Once your able to drop them 35’s, that number will drop significantly though 🤷🏽♂️
Data mining is just like an hour long tapping a hole in your phone... Mine, move, mine, move, mine, move, boring boring boring...
robust vapor
I can kill 35's, it's just like 40x less efficient though 😴
abstract gate
Faction hunt is around 300 kills with interminable warps between and you lot beg for those...make your minds up do you want grindy events or not?
Plus everyone was crying out for augment to be revamped and made viable...being able to mine a weeks worth of data in an hour or so is an improvement in my book
If you want everything for little effort then I suggest you dust off your credit card, that's the only shortcut in this game.
weak copper
Faction hunts give much better rewards and can help with farming blueprints & rep. Data mining rewards are always rubbish. I’ve no real problem with the new node sizes personally, but people are happier to grind when there’s better purpose & value to it.
abstract gate
With the exception of the final data event there's been an outlaws officer lb event after and the value of those zeta tokens is in that event...3 1st places in solo and alb thanks largely to the data events preceding them
Failing to plan is planning to fail
I will concede that running data, pvp, and swarms was a bit much...3 different ships for 3 different systems
robust vapor
I slept in and spent most of my day working on the house, and still finished all 3 events with hours to spare. I'd rather have been doing nothing 😂 but it wasn't that bad.
The broken nodes are nearly as bad as the people who won't just warp out to reset their broken ones at some point..
abstract gate
Afaik data events are like the probe hunts during borg arcs so we should have seen the last one until a new outlaw/augment storyline is launched
@robust vapor yeah got all 3 done in under 2hrs last night (1hr58mins I timed it lol) it's a bit of a faff though
robust vapor
Most of the game is like that 😆
abstract gate
Started with base in oopla and ships standing ready in ysrda, mined for an hour swapped to my 2 jellys and zerged pareleon then relocate to opidium and spanked 45xlvl35 swarm plus 30xlvl32...done
Sorry 38 lvl32's
robust vapor
I can only kill 1x 35, I just have to kill 263x 32's 😂
abstract gate
Yeah that's a bitch lol i was in your shoes too before...maxed Franklin, prime officers, pike and lvl38 buildings and research helps a lot lol can kill 10+ 35's it's inefficient still but quick
robust vapor
Got pike, need to do a little more research and buildings still, but getting those guns finished off should help out a lot 😬
abstract gate
Every upgrade will improve your kill count, 32's are your best bet until Franklin is maxed...more fm's per event
If you are lvl34+ it's worth checking out prime officers, you can get the g4 needed from scrapping lvl26 faction ships
robust vapor
I'm aware 😋 that's my third priority currently, ops 38 and getting that darn epic ship unlocked take precedence for me 🤫
torn timber
Anyone know why the alliance announcement screen doesn’t let you update it during CoW? Always reverts back to the previous message.
torn berry
@twilit imp military supremacy event isnt showing up for a number of people
abstract gate
Did crucible of war event started?
robust vapor
@torn berry that's normal and working as intended. There's mystery criteria for it, no one really knows what, but is a topic of discussion every time it runs.
torn berry
Normal and a fully intended "feature" 🤣
robust vapor
It's an annoying event if you don't have that particular ship ready to build our tier anyway 😅
novel hollow
I just leveled ops to 30 and got mil sup for first time since I built my sally and bortas. Also just recently double locked kling/fed so one of those two events triggered it.
Still -2m with rom so that wasn’t a change.
For anyone thinking of building 2 28 ships that are dual faction I’d say build one ship at a time so you get mil supremacy. I wish for multiple reasons I’d built one at a time.
robust vapor
It's really not that straightforward..
shrewd totem
I am lvl35,don't have Ent yet and locked Fed a long time ago. Guess what? I do NOT have the event😑
still zephyr
If I join a new alliance now, and they haven't reached the first teir of the crucible of war, will I be eligible for the rwds?
novel hollow
The mil sup? I know ... just saying something triggered it lol
robust vapor
I have it again, 4th time in a row 🙄 started getting mine after I tired my Bortas up.
shrewd totem
@still zephyr did you already scored any points in your current alliance?
still zephyr
No
shrewd totem
Then give it a try. Might be able to but no one can say anything for sure
robust vapor
@novel hollow yes, something triggered it, combination of somethings most likely, but what exactly is still not actually known (some theories and close by fits, but not cracked yet).
novel hollow
I was just pleasantly surprised and have no ships to build so win!
still zephyr
@shrewd totem cheers, won't risk it on a "maybe" but thanks for the reply
shrewd totem
CS can clarify it?
latent gate
@twilit imp military supremacy event isnt showing up for a number of people
@torn berry
For a huge number...
And no answers from ingame support ☹
Dunno why the pic was uploaded???
Cant delete it with handy discord 🤣
At least no pic of me beeing naked 😜
still zephyr
@latent gate Search on YouTube there's a vid that explains the best theory on what triggers the military supremacy. Not everyone gets it.
nova valley
Military Supremacy is working as intended for those who have it. and for those who don't, you don't need it lol
shrewd totem
I need it!
neat owl
I dont have it but would love to have it since I gotta kill ships for COW anyways
And also for that quantum event
torn berry
tl;dr?
@nova valley
I would like to have it as im killing roms anyway for kling lock
nova valley
lol unfortunately there's not really a tl;dr.
the closest i can come to making it short, is that you WILL get it if you are able to obtain the bps for a faction ship (due to reputation and ops level) for the faction ship that you're supposed to have for your ops level. ie, if you're level 28, and don't have a sally, but you are consort, you will get the event.
if you have the sally, and you're -2 mil in rom and fed, you won' get it.
if you are dual faction and consort with both fed and rom and only have a sally, you'd get it.
it has to do with the ability to build the ship you're supposedto hvae for your rep and ops level.
torn berry
Well i'm 34, locked rom and fed, associate with klingon and dont have any 34 or 32 ships 👀🤷🏻♂️
No event 😭
nova valley
yeah. 34+ is a diff criteria. even when we published that episode, we didn't have it solved for 34+
there is an extra variable i haven't solved
torn berry
Dammit 🤦🏻♂️😂
nova valley
and it affects me. i'm 36. triple lock. but only have ONE epic ship, the ent.
i SHOULD have it. but id on't.
34+ has always been unknown.
torn berry
Do some 34+ get it? Or is it a cut off at 34?
nova valley
No. Some get it. But dunno why they get it.
fervent folio
I got it, at 22, and am about 1/4 of the way done already, still on my first hull
echo dune
I’m Ops 31 have a Sally only have Fed as respected (hated by the other two) and have military supremacy.
torn timber
I’m 32, locked rom/kling, associate fed. Have all 3 lvl32 ships. No sally, No Supremacy
gentle cobalt
Now Im also excluded from military supremacy, first time Im not allowed to participate
Apparently a 34 with only cent and augur with triple lock is not qualified
torn berry
@echo dune do you have valkis too?
echo dune
@torn berry no only antares of the faction miners
torn berry
Sorry, thats what i meant
fervent folio
one hull and at 442/1000
granite zenith
you guys are missing the point... ops 26-31 has to build or tier a level 26 ship... ops 32 and 33 has to build/tier a level 26 ship... over 34 IF THEY GET IT has to build/tier a lvl 34 ship... 25 and lower ist based on NS and Franklin... vidar may or may not have been added... You also have to have postive rep in those factions equal to being able to buy the bp... for ops 34 and greater there are additional variables... this is what was originaly discovered... since then they have made changes which may or may not have changed the whole damn thing
wet peak
Another Military Supremacy Event I didnt get.
Scopelys lame ass reply. Do they think we are too stupid to compare with teammates? Theres no reason I didnt get this nor have I ever gotten it.
granite zenith
no there is a reason... they just choose not to share it with anyone
wet peak
Its a damn bug and they cant figure it out themselves 😂
latent gate
no there is a reason... they just choose not to share it with anyone
@granite zenith
Looks like.
And its damn stupid from scopely to offend all those players who dont get it, even if its hard to compete by only killing hostiles.
real ocean
I'm 33.fed/kling locked. Have Sally and brel. Rom - 2M. This is the 1st time I haven't received military supremacy. However, this is the 1st time this event has occurred where I had a 26 faction ship built (Mayflower)
drowsy viper
Military supremacy gives a decent amount of trit in tokens, but the amount of uncommon crystals are nothing out of the ordinary... it’s not a big deal not having it for a L27
If you’re already on the tier you want for your ship, then it’s 500 middle-high level hostiles, so you’d end up spending lot of trit...
torn timber
True, but at least it would give some bonus reward when grinding for the CoW ALB... hitting 40s just to hit 40s isn’t worth the cost alone
real ocean
Nevermind. It finally showed up
keen imp
Quick question : if you swap alliances once you have started crucible of war can you still earn points and rewards for the new alliance you swapped to?
fervent folio
keen imp
Thanks for the quick response 👍
novel hollow
@drowsy viper bruh if you can get crystal get it you will never not need crystal.
fervent folio
I have heard it reported though that if you did not score any points while in your current Alliance than you can participate in the new alliance....I would not put that to the test though
nova valley
would DEF not put that to the test LMAO
novel hollow
Not on this one might be worth trying on an event with bad rewards
keen ledge
Not it!
fervent folio
It makes a little bit of sense, just due to the fact that you have to score points to start getting rewards, so if you are not "locked in" yet, it could work
Still not gonna test it
fervent folio
and I don't want to leave my Alliance anyway, love being part of the Red Shirts Brigade
drowsy viper
I have to say that the recruit officer event milestones that gives 1.5M trit for L27 is very good. Can we have it waaaay more often?
1.5M trit each time you open a ultra box? Yes, please
dapper drum
if you are not in an alliance before one starts
then join an alliance you can participate
but if you are in an alliance even if you don't score you can't participate if you leave and join another
ivory current
Am i reading the event rules wrong or do faction miners count as warships in COW?
fervent folio
I don't think there has ever been a distinction, hostile is hostile
ivory current
I meant using your faction miner .. valkis in my case
ivory current
I thought so .. +69
fervent folio
they probably should remove the word combat from that
ivory current
Thanks .. the abbreviatins are kinda vague
fervent folio
Military Supremacy complete
north wraith
I don't trust that turtle faced cow...
fervent folio
@ivory current I actually looked at it again, I think it's referring to the Valdore, G4 Ship
not the Valkis
fervent folio
seeing as it's listed after the ISS Jelly and they appear to go in order
so it's referring to the Kelvin, K'Tinga and Valdore
ivory current
Ok . Gotcha .. see how im confused .. im not familiar with g4 ships and the abreviations kinda fit
fervent folio
yeah, I see where you're coming from
ivory current
Thanks again
fervent folio
np
it doesn't help that we can't even see those ships in the game until 39+
I had to do some looking on LCARS
vestal axle
What's the requirements for getting the Military Supremacy event? I'm Ops level 31 and so is a alliance team mate, he has the event, I don't...
fervent folio
it's believed to be something to do with having faction ships. If you don't have them the game is encouraging you to build them with the event. If you already have them, you don't get the event.
@vestal axle
vestal axle
I have some faction ships... but not all of them...
My alliance mate has a few of them already
fervent folio
I think it also depends on your rep level
robust vapor
There's no actual answer. Looks to be a combination of factors, but so far it has not been definitely cracked.
fervent folio
but I really don't know much more of the details....DJ talked about it in one of his podcasts though
robust vapor
Yes, and that joint effort was proven wrong, was actually wrong out of the gate and quickly amended to exclude players over a certain level (though we still get the event and have the same problem), but more holes were found. It was pretty close for a lot of people, but not right. It gets brought up every time the event is on.
vestal axle
I've got Bortas, Saladin and Mayflower unlocked. I don't have Centurion, D3 or Legionary built, but could buy the BPs (not going to though). Not sure why it doesn't trigger. My friend has Bortas, D3 and Saladin unlocked... but not built the others...
robust vapor
Yeah, we don't know the criteria and the Devs won't tell us. It's likely a combination, but we honestly don't know the answer. It has been discussed over and over, but it has not been cracked as yet.
vestal axle
It seems strange if they just want you to build... most of us build outside of the events... once you've worked to unlock enough BPs, you just build... 🤣
It feels broken.
robust vapor
I think they want you to buy 😋
It's the usual problem though. Scopely keep us all in the dark as much as an possible, you spend everything and then the event to spend it pops up, etc 🙄
lime wing
I've noticed in the crucible of war - alliance milestone event on combat ships info section, it says Franklin 9pts.
Does that mean I'm supposed to get 9pts extra everytime I destroy a hostile, just for using the Franklin?
robust vapor
@lime wing yes, though the banner will not show the combined points. It's a little harder to check total point gain with this one, but if you're lucky in the timing you can see the point increase matches expected.
abstract gate
Another military supremacy event another 10hr grind...seriously double the milestones for 34+ and make 39's give 1pt, this is beyond a joke now
sullen cape
I have all level 28 ships and don't see the military supremacy event
So I wonder does that playba part
abstract gate
Had it 5 times now...actually have a t4 augur too so it's grind or gtfo for me
sullen cape
Only ship I don't have up to lvl 34 is Gladius
I'm also tri-faction
If this is intentional, it really doesn't seem to be well thought out. Lvl 32 can see it who is weaker than me. Lvl 35 also has it and he is much stronger than me. Difficult to explain why they both get an extra event over me
wind vapor
@abstract gate I can do MS in one run, but did it in 2 just for a break, it is not the games fault if you have levelled you Ops ahead of your ships power without preparation.
robust vapor
As the OG of over leveling, I have no issues or complaints in the killing of 40's 😴 however actually getting 500 of them, bit of a joke..
eager hill
killing 500 lvl 40 hostile is no issue, the problem is finding them in reasonable amount of time. Got to kill alot of 38s and 39s to forve 40s yo spawan
shrewd totem
Not hard to find in deep space but need to be lvl38+ for that
abstract gate
@wind vapor my ships are fine for my ops , ops38 2mil+ augur...as stated the issue isn't the difficulty of killing them I can feasibly do it on one hull too, the issue is finding them. For every lvl40 I kill I have to kill 3-5 38/39's which effectively quadruples the time and rss needed to finish.
@shrewd totem the ds hostiles are veterans though, easy to find but costly af to kill en masse
Are there any baseable systems below warp65 in ds btw? As is the case for most lvl38's my current max warp is 65 and that requires scotty
meager galleon
Why are you calling someone a sanctimonious buffoon for making a comment you don’t like?
abstract gate
For attempting to call me out for being weak when he clearly has no clue what lvl34+ military supremacy actually requires.
meager galleon
Well there’s no need for it, you can respond to comments without that
You can’t expect anyone to know your full situation when your original statement was just a whine with no real details on your situation or what you are even complaining about
abstract gate
Whatever, edited it to conform to your varying standards of etiquette.
Another military supremacy event another 10hr grind...seriously double the milestones for 34+ and make 39's give 1pt, this is beyond a joke now
@abstract gate pretty clear what I was talking about but you do you
meager galleon
Gives no details on your strength which is what was questioned
abstract gate
Gives no details to the contrary either yet he still felt the need to make a sanctimonious statement based on an erroneous assumption
I have an augur and still get the event, gotten it every time it's popped since I hit lvl34, and have had to grind out 500 40's every time
meager galleon
If you’re only chasing the “easy” 40s it’s more an issue with spawn or accessibility than anything else. Go base high into Rom space and visit the early DS systems
Ursava has a nice amount of 40s too
(Usually)
abstract gate
@meager galleon that might be a solution for me and other 38+ players but what about the many other poor schmucks 34-37? Ds isn't an option at all for them
Spawn rates are atrocious and there's only a handful of systems available, and of those only one that's efficient (wolf)
hollow spoke
Trill is also a good option.
tawdry kindle
Another military supremacy event another 10hr grind...seriously double the milestones for 34+ and make 39's give 1pt, this is beyond a joke now
@abstract gate
Seriously, you go handbagging at me for me disliking any data events with those tiny nodes, and then you commenting this 🙈😂
T4 augur right? Me too, just search out them lvl40 systems (one in Rom and one in Kling space), easy peasy; moreover cuz you can spread it out over multiple days alongside with your dailies grinding...🤷🏽♂️
abstract gate
Wolf isn't a lvl40 system, the lvl40 systems are all veterans which means around 30-40 hulls rendering the rewards no longer worth the time and effort. Take your easy peasy and shove it sideways where the sun don't shine
novel hollow
Can we all agree spawning hostiles of any level is a pain in the ass
Make all systems spawn like borg probes.
storm cove
We need more military supremacy, it was fun
abstract gate
Lvl 32 threat from beyond heroic requires 375 points for top reward. Points for lvl 35 swarm is 10, points for lvl 32 swarm is 2. 375 points is not possible, you must score 376 points for top reward. Stupid little oversights like this are the reason I have decided this game can more or less f off. App deleted.
granite zenith
😉
abstract gate
I care Batman, I care. How can you expect someone to develop a smooth running game (it isn’t) if they don’t understand that 375 is not divisible by 10 or 2.
barren night
No no, I will suggest the 32s go back to 1 point so we can have it smoothly go into 375
novel hollow
What happened to the crystal with heroic?
barren night
Sold it for D'Vor parts
pale kestrel
rain juniper
Saw a convo about this a while ago. Does the 1 hour window mean a chance to grab again? 🖖
eager hill
@pale kestrel because scopely wants to hit player with surprise events that they might not be prared for. A strategy to push players to store i suppose.
swift lotus
Another lame COW event
abstract gate
Someone's bitter their alliance sucks
If you're in a decently active alliance CoW is fantastic
tidal storm
Only 1 for me..
rain juniper
@tidal storm I assume that's just because your alliance took longer to achieve the necessary points to exhaust the option. No one tried this then? 🖖
abstract gate
Theoretically possible but I'm not gonna risk it...besides I need gas and crystal as well as ore and parsteel
robust vapor
I need crystal more and should be fine with the time remaining you find out. I'll give it a shot 😎
abstract gate
Take one for the team
If it doesn't work you just have more tokens for next CoW run (assuming there is a next one)
robust vapor
Nah, if it doesn't work I'll just get one of the others 🤷♂️
abstract gate
I'd have a 3hr window to take advantage of it, with family commitments etc it's too narrow to risk. Knowing scopely's penchant for rug pulls and moving the goalposts I'd be stuck with 16k useless tokens for a year lol
robust vapor
Looks like I have an 8 hour window, I should be ok 🤔
My Alliance finished the event in about a day, needs more milestones 😬
tidal storm
Scopely must have read my post ... now viable
abstract gate
Ours finished this morning, we got enough milestones for a double pull of station rewards after 14hrs
The gold trophy recruit is a 22hr cd...
Completely different from the rewards in alliance store
south arrow
Yes you can buy again I’d it resets before the timer runs out
jagged inlet
👍
swift lotus
@abstract gate No, not bitter that my alliance "sucks" -- the event is tailored to alliances of a certain size and also players of a certain size. We have 50 active players in our alliance, about half below level 20. They play, but they cannot contribute as many gold tokens ( I believe below level 20, the maximum they can contribute is 30 but I may be wrong). Its still the same grind for them. I takes me less than one hull to complete my share at level 33. The event needs to be reworked. I'm not talking about competing in the alliance competition, but the event should be able to be completed with a certain level of active players and not necessarily a minimum level.
meager galleon
Don’t agree, not everything can be tuned for every single lvl or big/small alliance
You make it so much smaller alliances can complete it easy, then it’ll take any form of challenge away from bigger alliances
shrewd totem
(Every player gets same amount of gold trophies in their solos)
meager galleon
And point scoring for over all cow mile stones are based on hostile kills as main factor, very little point diversity in what ships ppl use
fervent folio
very little point diversity?
what are you smoking? You get 1 pt per hostile and the rest is ship dependent
fervent folio
like, Jelly gets 4 points and an Vi'Dar gets 19....that's pretty big diversity, and bigger ships get even more
meager galleon
Event is not tailored towards players with original Jellyfish
swift lotus
That's for the alliance LB competition
fervent folio
well yeah, but it basically means that as a lower level, I can not contribute in any meaningful way
meager galleon
Look at how the points where the player base overall right now -26+
fervent folio
no, that's the Alliance Milestone
meager galleon
If your argument is that the player base is mostly below 26 you’re very wrong
fervent folio
no, i'm not making that argument, just saying that as a lower level I can not contribute
swift lotus
That argument is server-dependent
fervent folio
and there is that too
swift lotus
Some servers are younger and some are older and have a different level distribution
meager galleon
There is more server that are over a year old than there are new ones.
By a large margin
swift lotus
OK, but the reality is, the event needs fine-tuning
shrewd totem
no, i'm not making that argument, just saying that as a lower level I can not contribute
@fervent folio you can with the gold trophies from solo event (12k points per day)
meager galleon
This is Scopely, they don’t put the resources into balancing and trying to make it communism for all
fervent folio
Umm, no, try 400/day
swift lotus
Anyways, agree to disagree.
fervent folio
swift lotus
Each gold trophy is worth 30 points LostWaldo
meager galleon
They aim for what’s good for the majority and also whales. Lower levels get their balance elsewhere, especially when the levelling experience from 1-30 is extremely different to when I was there.. it’s got much more content
swift lotus
so that's 12000 points per player per day
fervent folio
ok, so in 3 days i can contribute 36k....of 2M....it's a drop in the bucket
I can not contribute in any meaningful way which means Alliances would rather not have me
shrewd totem
If you have 50 actives that do their solo event each day that is 1.8m points
meager galleon
Again, event isn’t designed around 70 people who only have a jellyfish available who do the absolute minimum
shrewd totem
Plus a few hostile kill and you are done with CoW
fervent folio
again, how can I join an Alliance that is able to complete it if they don't want me?
because I can't contribute
shrewd totem
You can by doing your solo event
Main way to score points in this event is the gold trophies
More actives that do their solos each day-> faster you will finish CoW
meager galleon
Welcome to the game, you’re pushed to push and pushed to be stronger - for what end goal? Nobody knows but don’t put undue pressure on yourself and enjoy an alliance as a community, most who play long term play for the people
simple spear
Why wouldn't they want you...if you're active and complete solo you're just as valuable as a lvl 40 that completes it.
swift lotus
What server are you on Waldo ?
fervent folio
well, I am in an Alliance that I enjoy for the community.....we barely completed the first milestone
so the game is pushing me to leave my community that I enjoy
31
simple spear
You still have one day...if you completed first milestone you can get the next few as well
fervent folio
meager galleon
Look at what Batman said
“If you have 50 actives that do their solo event each day that is 1.8m points”
fervent folio
yes, but we can't see who did and did not complete them
swift lotus
I'm in 13...
meager galleon
It’s fairly easy to see from the ALB
simple spear
Yes you can, check the alliance leaderboard to see who doesn't have points
swift lotus
sorry 🙂
simple spear
It's a different point model but it will show you who has contributed something
meager galleon
First milestone is made large so everyone can score, the ones after are very small jumps so you can usually get several each day once the first is done
carmine lily
Hooray no events today!
shrewd totem
Lat Monday 👀
carmine lily
I lost the meme but...: mining is NOT an event. slap
fervent folio
ok, so where's the event store?
echo dune
@fervent folio will pm you how to work out who did what
Ok I can’t lol ... but if you look at the alliance leaderboard via the bar chart icon (bottom right) you then on new screen get an option to change from alliance rankings to see members contribution to your alliance score (top right drop down menu).
Hope that helps you and anyone wondering how to do that 🖖
(I’m also curious how our server at this moment compares to others).
shrewd totem
fervent folio
yes, that shows participation in the ALB....but not the Milestone
and since the way you score points are different for those two....
keen ledge
It's been suggested, Waldo.
I also don't like that I can't specifically see AMS participation.
tepid agate
Server 40, started around end January or Beginning Feb.
keen ledge
I don't even care about ALB for CoW.
keen ledge
See above
fervent folio
keen ledge
That was recommended during the last CoW and the one before that. Just don't know if / when we'll get it.
fervent folio
but there's my servers ALB for those interested
fervent folio
what's funny is that ours that's at 236M only has 38 members
keen ledge
Hardcore people in that group. That's impressive.
fervent folio
yet they are destroying everyone else because they are a 40+ only Alliance
keen ledge
Ahhhh, that helps
fervent folio
well, mostly 40+, a few high 30s and a couple lower 30s
no one below 31 though
they got a 50 too
I think he may be the only one on our server
keen ledge
WOW
fervent folio
ok, I was wrong, looked at their info, 35+ or special invite only
still, they are all wallet warriors
and I don't mean that in a bad way, it's great they support this game so I can play it
keen ledge
I personally don't see negative connotation in that phrase - a healthy game economy needs all kinds of players, including people who are willing to invest in the game.
fervent folio
I didn't think you would, but others do
tepid agate
Some folks use it as a way of antagonizing other folks.
Like the GC chat Trolls
lol
fervent folio
yeah, I mean it in an almost respectful way
merry fulcrum
No competition in that server I see
fervent folio
nope, not really
RED, which was our sister alliance, is the closest and they are about 60%
we had to split off from them though...they kept poaching our best members and then dragging us in to their wars, a lot of us are late 20s, I'm one of the lowest at 22, but they are warring with PXR whose also in that SS and we can't really fight back and then they don't help us...so we split
flint veldt
WHEN will the Tribble EVENT take PLACE
nova valley
loved the tribble event. but it was an april fools event. i doubt that's in the recurring calendar
abstract gate
Hope it's not feckin data again 😂
shrewd totem
Domination+Mega miner+Armadas+C2A!
abstract gate
deletes discord
😂
All joking aside, pass on a thanks for reputation event resetting in line with everything else 👌
swift lotus
I found it helpful to delay... I could use speedups to get research / buildings in event categories to maximize returns
abstract gate
30mins to reset, let the wild speculation begin
foggy monolith
Server 11
abstract gate
i want event store llol
My money is on either domination or armadas...maybe domardas
Event store is unlikely, it's usually preceded by a client update
good point
i can hope tho
We had big update 4 days ago, and smaller one yesterday.
Hmm, just checked android and there is a client update available...
I just did as well, just updated it
earnest hornet
Faction hunt 😊
leaden talon
@twilit imp I guess the ISS Jellyfish doesn’t count in the tier up bonus’?
random tide
Its not a faction ship im guessing.
dapper drum
its not federation its the ISS not the USS
leaden talon
ISS is a faction, just not created yet.
frozen abyss
Faction hunt is for Federation, Klingon, and Romulan. You will notice that augment ships, the Vi'Dar, and the Franklin don't count, either.
They all count during Hostile Hunt, but only the main 3 factions count during Faction Hunt.
lusty atlas
And whats the reasoning upgrading a Hydra dont qualify for any points.
shrewd totem
It is a hostile hunting event. Are you hunting hostiles with your Hydra?👀
modest oyster
technically could
unborn blaze
Scopely : a burning question, if am a lvl 34 for almost 3months working toward lvl 35, then OPERATIONS that I have done, now presenting me to redo lvl 34? Is this another GLITCH
unborn blaze
shrewd totem
What is wrong in that ss? All of the buildings is lvl34 and you are ready to go ops35?🤔
It looks pretty normal to me
unborn blaze
If i haven't completed Operations lvl 34, I wouldn't have been promoted to level 34 right!
Look at the green on operations, it says to do lvl 34
shrewd totem
It shows your current level
If you hit the building you can upgrade it from 34 to 35
unborn blaze
I sincerely hope so, thankx
Another burning question,
Why is it that we paid for rrs, but something inadequate back. Example, for €110 a go, I expected value for money. I have almost 10millions of gas, I needed uncommon gas but got peanut back in mining, just waste of money and time, why is not possible like in the other games, why can't I buy what I needed or why do Scopely have to chose for me what I needed after I have paid for it.
shrewd totem
Yeah I have no idea. Many suggested different ways to make pack purchases better but nothing has been done yet
unborn blaze
Even i mined for 4 days but at end, I got back, 98% of commons and 2% of uncommon, it's a lousy unjust,
Anyway thankx for your clarification
shrewd totem
If you have any feedback or suggestions,feel free to put them in #💬-general-feedback #💭-suggestions
vital cape
For people who don’t have hundreds of dollars, a x2 or x3 boost to mining/refining for $10 would be super popular as a power up @shrewd totem
You’d get a ton of micro-transaction revenue as players strategically used boosts to aid their competitiveness
haughty idol
🇨🇦 I wonder if we will get a Canada Day chest tomorrow?
prisma geode
@vital cape micro-transactions are not in the Scopely vocabulary.
$99.99 is the only transaction they know
jolly cobalt
Does anyone know if there's a next Borg event coming up?
leaden cipher
@twilit imp seriously?
shrewd totem
?
leaden cipher
Can u please fix this bug before event ends and not try to ignore it or promote it as feature?
shrewd totem
What bug
shrewd totem
Did you level up?
leaden cipher
No
shrewd totem
What level are you?
leaden cipher
41
leaden cipher
No
It was always g3 and 3days afk first 2 packages we all got g3
Now today all switched to g4
With same amounts
Which is ridiculous
If it’s g4 u need same amounts x100
Last cow was also g3
And beginning of this cow was g3
Today it switched
shrewd totem
It was bugged in the earlier ones and now they fixed it(we all know it takes a good amount of time before they fix something)?🤷♂️
For a lvl40+ getting 3g from events wouldn't be intended if we think logically
leaden cipher
Thats bs sorry
We need more g3 then g4
But nevertheless
The amounts don’t fit then if it’s purposed to be g4
Otherwise event can be ignored
Scaling of g4 mat costs is around x100 compared to g3
In terms of this rewards
Even daylie events give more
If it’s purposed to be g4 then amounts should be adjusted, if amounts remain it should be g3
So it’s just another bug as our disadvantage
And daylie events switched back to g3 of lvl 3x
So it’s just another event which wasted our time by nerfing the rewards during event
Great job 👏
shrewd totem
Well instead of jumping to conclusions,tried to contact CS yet?
leaden cipher
You mean to receive tomorrow an automated response without link to my issue, after event ends?
That would be an additional waste of time
This is an ongoing event which ends in 7h
Thatswhy we have discord
With 2 employees of scopely which are here for community
shrewd totem
Not really. Discord is last thing you should come. CS is always first to go in these situations
shrewd totem
It isnt AI....
leaden cipher
It is
south arrow
They just said it supposed to be g4 and the amounts are correct so get screwed by scopley as always
Same thing happened to me
abstract gate
Scopely employees won't give you a straight answer and the volunteer mods can only pass on information given to them from scopely employees...you see the problem here?
main gazelle
any rumours for the next arc/battlepass?
leaden cipher
@abstract gate we have here 2 people who are working and payed by scopely directly for community care. I don’t see any statement or working on this issues from their side.
And payed by scopely means actually payed by us as customers
So I would like to have some kind of customer service
Otherwise this official discord is pretty useless
No bad feelings @twilit imp @gaunt yacht , just mention facts and expectations
Take it as non-personal neutral feedback
abstract gate
Pretty useless is an understatement, as far as helping and informing the community goes this discord has no function whatsoever. Any useful information on here is player generated.
hollow arch
question to players 36 and 37, have you seen lately the event rush to level 38 that allows you to get 2 x half of the black jelly bps ? I am preparing to level ops 36 and either I use the rush to 38 to get the jelly or I need to stock more resources for the competition event ?
abstract gate
No rush events for jf anymore only the auction event
scarlet seal
And there is another failure, events that where designed to make players who where lvl35 and above rush to lvl38 so they could have the IIS Jelly, or events where players could work on getting the BB are not repeated. It's a massive fail as there are players who 6 months ago where lvl 28 and are now lvl34 or above and they will have no chance to do those special events or the Aug special events to get the BB
it's not hard to code the game to work on a players lvl band and say right for all those who are lvl 18 to 27 here is the BB event so you can stand a chance to earn it, Same for the d'vor, Or those players who are now lvl34 to 37 here is the ISS Jelly event - not hard at all just takes a good programmer - oh yea sorry I said Good Programmer
shrewd totem
You get BB bps from missions .....
scarlet seal
only 1/2 the BB - when the Aug event happened first time around you could get 1/2 from mining and 1/2 from hostile killing so you could get it - I got 2 that way never paid a penny for it. The Franklin was the same and so was the D'vor- of which I have 2 franks and one d'vor so as a mainly f2p player I have to spend a lot of time farming to get ahead. Whats worse is the people who join the game and level up after these events and we then get an Aug mining event or swarm event and they don't have the ships and can't get them without spending as the method of getting the Bp's that allowed the f2p players to earn them are not repeated
Scopely need to spend time working on how they wish this game to be played in the future as it will die soon, as the f2p player base will leave, as new players try it and enjoy it till they get to lvl18 and find the need for the special ships to try an compete in events, they get bored and leave. And like me players who are now lvl34 and have played the game for 18 months plus and have worked hard to get to lvl34 without spending huge sums of money are also getting bored and quitting. The game play model is broken as there is no reward without spending huge sums of cash now. The best spend they did was the Prem rewards for £20 in the Borg Arc that gave good rewards for hard work and you didn't feel bad about spending the £20. So in order to keep the players they really need to look at what path they want to take as the loss of the f2p players will leave nothing but the whales and that can't sustain the game.
shrewd totem
You are talking about FRANKLIN
All of the bps of BB can be obtained for free right now
And Dvor was NEVER offered in events
Only in event stores
raven gulch
Are lvl 19 players able to do the faction hunt?
shrewd totem
Not sure about that 🤔. I think it is lvl18+
dapper drum
I was doing faction hunt when I was a wee lvl three
and back in those days you had to kill factions ships both uphill going to and from your base
tepid agate
Who's feedback wanted Khan shards removed from Swarm event? That is only reason to do event...
@twilit imp
Pretty sure every single newer server would have to disagree with this removal of Khan shards..
north wraith
That's mostly 1 of 2 reasons to do Swarms, the other reason being able to hoard resource tokens
shrewd totem
Well people didnt directly asked for Khan to be removed. They asked to have a rotating shards and it was prob easier for Scopely just give ultras instead
tepid agate
<@&509691611903426561> Why this move to remove Khan shards. There are quite a few of other ways to get recruit tickets.. this is absurd.. Khan is hardest officer to get shards for and level. This made swarm worth doing and invested $$ in franklin to get Khan. This is a slap in face.. This is my first official complaint.. They need to add Khan to Ultra recruit tokens then. Because one does not justify other.
nova valley
With ya buddy
cunning knot
CC's make videos/podcast not game content
nova valley
Doesn’t matter nowon. We’re a vessel for feedback. And I want it all
peak isle
Right behind you too
tepid agate
but you guys can blast this crap with your videos 🙂
nova valley
I wanna hear how terrible this is.
quick sand
your guess is as good as ours
nova valley
3pm eastern I go live.
cunning knot
oh i made a vide on this whole ordeal last week
tepid agate
Thank you Y'all
man what a pisser...
So many folks invested $$ just for the Khan shards... wow..
Lower the shards and add ultra tokens as a comprimise.. dont take them out completely
north wraith
@shrewd totem I don't think it's hard to put hardest officers to get in a rotation (cough cough Section 31 cough), I mean they put relatively complex events into a daily rotation... Come on...
cursive sonnet
Can they at least put khan in the ultra recruit pool?
fervent folio
@nova valley that's about an hour and 45 minutes from now correct?
trail bloom
Just take out the mara shards we want the khan shards...
tepid agate
if you dont want khan shards... stop playing, you are doing it wrong.. lol
mental yoke
Remove khan shards and give us a sub that does not give a path to Khan shards...makes perfect sense.
abstract gate
So this is the feedback group who voted to drop khan shards from swarm sunday.... wait i dont see anybody
tepid agate
I wonder if anyone at scopely plays the game like the rest of us do, to see what the base has to go through.. Should be a requirement lol
sonic belfry
@cunning knot - did you do a video on the extra mission, rewards, faction rewards reset that happened this morning?
cunning knot
it didnt happen for me @sonic belfry
sonic belfry
Me neither, but for those lucky few that is did... extra badges, reduces, missions, and rewards! Where’s the equity
cunning knot
ageed
inland hamlet
What happened was some maxed Khan and mara and said swarm was useless to do. Since they also maxed franklin.
And they didn't want transporter tokens but recruit tokens.
So problem is very few have both maxed and maybe 5% of player base.
solid badger
Ok who told them it was ok to change rewards on swarm Sunday? They need to be drawn and quartered
So what if you have them maxed. It would give you transporter patterns. You can exchange those to an officer you are short on.
rare violet
Remove Khan and Mara and add badges therefore 😁
dapper drum
#giveusharrison
rare violet
#prayforbadges
dapper drum
#section31forall
tepid agate
should give everyone a full khan unlock, then i will be ok with them removing theis lol
dapper drum
and 10k indy creds!
300 khan shards, 10k indy creds and 10 badges each and we call it even
tepid agate
DEAL!
now... who do we have to call to make this happen!
i will supply a good case of Kentucky Brown to whoever I have to
floral canopy
So this is the feedback group who voted to drop khan shards from swarm sunday.... wait i dont see anybody
@abstract gate hmmmmmmm must be
abstract gate
😍😍😍 @floral canopy rise up demand your badges
icy trout
formal stag
one of the worse changes this year removing khan shards. its almost as dumb when they removed the faction lock.
amber talon
Who tf would vote yes on having ultra chests instead of Kahn shards? I call bs, lol. Smh
prisma geode
☝️ guaranteed to not even give you one pull, way to go focus group.😂
tepid agate
HA! win one for the little guys!!
solid badger
Yes. Instead of messing with a non broken issue. How about getting badge access in the game. Like add to the 30 day loyalty chests.
mental yoke
But, but, but I thought the original change was due to feedback 🤔.
tepid agate
it be amazing how many more players they would keep if they tweaked a hand ful of things ingame..
timber anchor
How many ultra recruit tokens would it have been?
shrewd totem
No idea. Panic didnt say
tepid agate
Was probably going to total 800 for one full pull knowing scopely..
Or better yet.. 750
Lol
prisma geode
They could add ultra recruit to the reward
abstract gate
The last Outlaws swarm event had ultra recruit token instead of Khan/Mara. Wasn't that much.
prisma geode
Doesn’t have to be one or the other.
distant smelt
500 ultra tokens and 500 2* crystal.........🤣
floral pike
I provide a feedback to scopely in every opportunity I have about this badges paywall ... i am sure many other people do the same and scopely is making a decision to ignore it. The number of people considering to quit BECAUSE OF THIS and the number of people that REALLY QUIT has been increasing significantly in the past months ... loosing f2p or people that are 90% f2p turns the game less interesting for everyone...
silent horizon
Though I agree that the badges paywall is annoying, quitting the game because of it is just dumb, an anyone who does it is just plain and simple dumb. There are sooooo many things to do in this game, that you are kept locked to your phone for maybe too much time. There are a lot of other reasons to maybe quite the game, but badges are not one. Plus, you can get 3 of each for free. As such, plan ahead and don’t waste them lol
hollow fossil
well, if they actuly dropped like it says ingame well ........
floral pike
Badges paywall is not only annoying but it limits your development in game and builds a wall between those who spend money and the ones that have limited resources. All players are important and should be respected.
I respect your opinion but you can't say that badges are not a reason good to quit ...
shrewd totem
Many quit because of bugs and repeated stuff not because of badges or paywalls
floral pike
@shrewd totem agree. Those are also reasons ... not saying badges are the only one...
shrewd totem
It is same as almost every mobile game though. After a while all of them get boring and repeat same events etc over and over
floral pike
I really can't "accept" the change scopely did to remove the loyalty packages with badges that could be acquired in faction store in a regular basis ... people that play this game usually do not complain to work hard to get things ... just put a "price" in faction store and let it go...
shrewd totem
I am hopeful that we will see a change in the near future
floral pike
Me too 🙂
torn plover
Dear developers, could you put up a milestone event where we earn officer badges? Your PvP event is totally lame. Hhahaha
hollow fossil
still too few
merry fulcrum
Some people do quit because of pay walls, I don't blame people if they go past 40 and quit
crisp abyss
we get a loyalty pack 2 with badge then the next one is not until 50mil rep which is too big a gap, maybe include it in packs at 10mil, 20mil etc as getting to 10mil is a good bit of effort
50mil is a massive jump
teal jackal
Not really. I can pull 1.5 mil rep per trip with my Augur so time wise it's not too bad. Assuming you have a strong epic ship. 😉
warped stag
I am lvl 38 but can’t mine g4 due to warp restrictions on my biggest faction miner. I am still going up in faction rep and currently have half the bps for the Vorta Vor. If you do Swarm dailies, completing your dailies will not be an issue.
silent horizon
Maybe they could make the badged faction loyalty chest yearly? To refresh at each aniversary? I find 9 badges for free per year to be decent. If you want more, then pay. Stop complaining. All players should be respected yes, but players who pay should have an advantage, that is why they use real life money. If everything were for free, this game would go bankrupt in 1 month.
heavy edge
I think a good way is the same think than for battle pass. To join lvl 10 of battle pass, you need to do events evryday and only have 3 or 4 days without doing it. But you can reach lvl 10 in 1 month. In the other side, you can purchase a pack that give you possibility to join lvl 10 of the battle pass immediatly.
shrewd totem
Unless they plan to give unlimited amount of badges,it wont be enough. People will always ask for more that is in nature of humans🤷♂️ but yes 9 per year is a pretty good deal
heavy edge
My opinion is that they can do the same thing with badges. One way is purchasing a pack to have them immediatly, Second way is in-game by doing dailies or other things and you need 1, 2 months ? to buy them.
Using this strategy, everybody will be happy i think
If you want to buy, you can have them immediatly, if you don't want to buy, you also can have them but need time.
scarlet seal
The only way this game will survive now is changing the model of play, You want it you buy it, Or you want it you grind for it. There has never been a person on my server or anywhere in the game that I know of who has got a badge from a hostile chest, Same with other things in the game, To get an epic Grade 3 ship you need 180K faction credits, But if you are a whale and jump all the way to deep space you can grind them out of lvl42 and above hostile chests, Hmm... seems fair that one, The cost of rss in the game is now too high
you either Pay to Win or you have the ability to grind out for free, but this game is now turning into a Pay to win only
abstract gate
Win? How do you win? It's pay to play, nothing more nothing less.
alpine lantern
Is there a table someone can refer me to that shows the maximum faction hunt points requirement by level? (Eg Level 21=140 points)
neat owl
Or better yet.. 750
@tepid agate 799
I actually have this weird thing in my account though... I have an extra 6 ultra and 7 premium tokens for no reason
Maybe something to do with early events and missions
neat owl
It would be great though if we could get Zhou maybe in events or something
Like maybe Zhou in swarm sundays
celest cloud
Zhou is in the Crucible of War gold chest (as one of the random choices).
abstract gate
Chest full of crap except for a chance at a shard or two once a month or so...only available in the most technical definition of the word.
halcyon patio
Don't forget about officers shards and fanction credits if you want to max an officer. Even if I had unlimited badges, still can't max officers...
That's why I really don't see what's the problem with badges that are so hard to get them.
If I want to max some officers and let's say I have badges, I still need to buy some officers packs or wait few months to get required credits and shards.. 🤷
And also officer XP..
abstract gate
Shards, credits and xp are all obtainable no matter your lvl or spending. Badges are gated for spenders only.
shrewd totem
But how many of that 33 is worthy of a badge?
abstract gate
Once you've claimed your faction loyalty boxes x3 at 2mil rep there's no other realistic way to obtain them as f2p. Epic armada boxes don't count, random chance at a random badge from a box f2p open maybe twice a year
halcyon patio
And you have the credits for 33 officers?
abstract gate
What lvl are you @halcyon patio ?
halcyon patio
34
abstract gate
If you're struggling for shards, credits and xp at 34 you're doing it all wrong tbh
halcyon patio
Probably could max all uncommon officers, promote one more rank all rares, I think, and also few epics
shrewd totem
I agree we need more badges but wouldnt expect to get enough for free to max all of the officers. 5 of each+3 of each from loyalty chests would be an okay amount to give to F2P
abstract gate
Chen, t'lann, moroue, epic kirk, rare spock, t'pring, stonn....at the bare minimum these guys need promotions and available badges don't even cover them
shrewd totem
Tlann doesnt need badge
abstract gate
True
shrewd totem
Moreau isnt worthy of badge
abstract gate
Depends, as f2p I'm assuming no prime officers so all stats are needed
shrewd totem
Same thing as how most people have Ents/Sallies since they are the best
abstract gate
I haven't even covered essential pvp officers, supplemental mining officers (joe cargo, Helvia and the other)
shrewd totem
We need ship+officer rebalance
abstract gate
Most people? You are really out of touch with f2p
halcyon patio
I don't want unlimited badges for free...
But 1 of each/month (in 30day chest) won't unbalance game at all
dapper drum
only need around 500 badges of each type to promote all current officers
long torrent
Would be great to get a nice long Separatists event to go along with US Independence Day weekend... not gonna happen given how multinational the player base is but it would be on theme lol
abstract gate
Dunno about long...seperatist bosses have become a joke to farm, a long event with them would get really boring really fast
Last seperatist event got old after the first hour when I realised my sally still had 50% hull left...I don't even want to know how long it'll take to kill my augur on them 🤢
dapper drum
then make it fun use a kumari on the klingon bosses
use vahklas on the romulan bosses
and use kehra on the fed bosses
don't even need pike to win against them with those ships
well not too sure about the kehra, but I know vahklas and kumari can kill bosses
even against the triangle
tepid agate
I would rather spend all day on one augur hull lol.
abstract gate
Don't have a kehra vahklas, or kumari
simple spear
Maxed horizon can kill a boss in 2 tries lol. I was bored one day. Even a my lowly vidar can take a bunch out. Explorer bosses with pike of course
abstract gate
Which just goes to show how out of date seperatist event is now. It was popular before because it was challenging and had decent rewards...it's just a chore for many of us now
simple spear
I skipped lb last time. Killed 4-5 and left. Don't have the patience anymore for the ultra mega grindasaurus events
abstract gate
The ease with which they die now the lb is decided by who needs the least sleep...f that noise
simple spear
Yup. Wasn't even an alliance lb to contribute to i think
abstract gate
Before I could grind for an hour here and there and place in the top 3 easily, now that wouldn't even break the top 50
There's lunatics on my server that will grind for 2 days straight...more than 2hrs straight gives me a migraine lol
simple spear
Yeah we had a guy grind the entire 2 days. His intrepid was there the entire time hitting. He had like a few million points or so. That's about 4k boss kills 😱
Kinda bonkers for the 90 uc gas reward
abstract gate
Yeah the rewards aren't worth the damage done to your health and wellbeing
Lb's in general are a really bad idea, they promote an unhealthy playsyle for little reward
Burst event lb's were a good idea. 1hr job done.
abstract gate
Being on an European server meant I missed most of those but that's still preferable to being locked into a 24hr fight for 1st
dapper drum
how about 1 minute burst events
you won't know you are in it until you get a reward if what you were doing atm counted
abstract gate
Honestly anything's better than the 24hr slb's
eager hill
event store, fingers crossed 😁
uneven wave
@shrewd totem fully agree about the ship rebalance, sally and enterprise are still too op compared to the other faction ships of their level
young flicker
where are the special rewards then
dapper drum
no event store for you
young flicker
special rewards yet another $copley joke
proper hinge
solemn sequoia
neat owl
Any word on when the next battle pass season will start?
Within a week? in two weeks?
vital cape
- Thank you for making the Pars rain, very helpful
- I can't find a pot of Trit to **** in these days
Is there a decent restocking event coming? I can't even find an unshielded base to raid with more than 150k of rewards most days. Encouraging PvP is one thing but this is just total resource constriction.
solar fog
Why Scopley? Why would you have a Station event where me, 34, has to compete with level 49s? Just stupid.
merry fulcrum
To make you suffer 😈 same reason a 28 has to compete with a 36
Who also has to compete with that 49
solar fog
Yep.
kind olive
Pick and choose your events. I save up for certain event types and then when they come hit them hard.
Trying to win everyday just leads to insanity.
coral schooner
Station event.. any guide to the power levels and points you get? How many points would an ops upgrade be?
solemn sequoia
turrets are by far the biggest upgrade
you can look at lcars for the specific numbers on the rest
thick ermine
Is there a chart or info graphic that exists for the different event (BFG, CoW, etc.) milestones at different levels?
keen ledge
Panic is not on.
elder gyro
Thanks
keen ledge
How long ago did you finish?
keen ledge
Hmm. Please submit a ticket to support. Add those screenshots.
keen ledge
Ok, good. That's definitely something they have to help with and it's better if an issue like that is on record.
Hopefully they fix it for you quickly.
robust vapor
That's been an issue with some people for the last.. 4 or 5 battle for glory events I think.
elder gyro
Thanks guys and gals
robust saddle
I had the same issue and logged a ticket about it this morning
robust vapor
Scopely should have addressed this issue ages ago now.. why keep running events that don't work as intended 😑 poor form.
keen ledge
Stop, before we get data mining again! 👀
robust vapor
At least people would get the points they've earned 😂
hybrid ibex
@elder gyro I wouldnt bother with support. I submitted a CS ticket for this issue yesterday and the ticket was closed immediately with no resolution.
abstract gate
I logged the same last BFG event, they told me it was now with the development team
hybrid ibex
@keen ledge can you use your other channels please to raise this BFG rewards issue and report back what is being done to rectify it for the affected players. Customer support have not done anything except close the ticket.
hybrid ibex
@elder gyro hahaha snap.
Chat bot or copy and paste.
keen ledge
@hybrid ibex - It's been escalated. 🖖
hybrid ibex
@keen ledge thanks Jess.
echo dune
It’s annoying because we get the inaccurate BFG trophy tally for alliance event too, and in our close battle for first it can be as much as 15 points difference - so we need BFG events to be accurate. I really enjoy the game, but these bugs. Suck the will a bit.
graceful shard
If your alliance is buying more packs scopley will do better calculating your BFG
graceful shard
The other alliance might be bigger whales
dire veldt
Issue as a whole
keen ledge
It's a broader problem than one, so root cause needs to be identified and corrected.
hybrid ibex
Surely they can manually apply the rewards on the cases that are flagged to them, we could be waiting a year for a resolution to the underlying bug.
hybrid ibex
yep the bug is consistent. You dont get the top tier of the rewards.
Someone said that it happens because you try to collect the full reward ladder in one go. I dont know if thats true though. It was the case for me anyway.
abstract gate
Always collect in full and never had that bug.
pure osprey
Whwn are we getting new events and rewarda like 4 of july events etc
inner ginkgo
@elder gyro Had the same thing, missing 100 points.
abstract gate
Yeah it's scopely's way of punishing you for not spending enough
winter aspen
lol that means i need 100 kills
abstract gate
100 kills isnt too bad...until you compare it to the 38 kills I need at ops38...the disparity is a blatant f u from scopely for not spending
The most insulting part is you have to do all that extra work yet contribute less to the alb...
If it's any consolation an unprepared lvl40 has it worse lol
abstract gate
Nono we need it...so many times I've been accused of hitting somebody else's hostile, I zoomed right in but couldn't see their name on it...
dapper drum
yeah we need name stamps
and be able to flag ships so we know who to piss off
so many times people have ignored me marking other peoples bases and they take my resources I was going to take
so rude
cinder parrot
Does anybody know when is next borg event?
earnest citrus
No-one does
shrewd totem
Some people in Scopely does 👀
earnest citrus
Ok pedantic Bat, no-one who knows can publicly talk about it 😛
abstract gate
People know, nobody's talking...standard scopely mushroom farming technique...keep em in the dark and feed em on 💩
viral condor
Hi all, anyone know where i can find out the "who is in your event bracket level range" information ?
random tide
I doubt even scopely knows when. Someone probably shelved it and said eventually, maybe, sometime, in the future.
solid badger
Yay I would love to do this officer xp event but didn’t get the badge glitch so have nothing to promote with out badges. ☹️
frigid shard
I'm predicting we will get badges when the good old jellyfish ship ability gets fixed 😂
prisma geode
Anybody else notice they took Zuoh out of gold trophy recruit. He was there yesterday.
steep drum
You can get him only in the Crucible of War event