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Ah. I thought i started in november of 24 but not sure
What have you done to the Venari? Now I can't even destroy a level 61 one.š©
I haven't touched them, why? /j
So g6 players have to buy the mythic pass for rare mats now?
Hopefully they fix it, but you also get some from various events and eventually loyalty chests once you move to ops 71
I am 71. It's not for me but if it's been taken out of the free and $20 pass that's an all time low. Even for scopely
Agree. Mats and rss nerfing across all events is real
I'm getting a little tired of this. I've got a mobile app dictating to login daily or game features will be revoked. Wtf.
Getting fixed
Itās tone deaf. A feature that should be automatic (given the increase in refineries and clicks needed daily) plus I (and many others) have been playing the game daily for probably 6 years think about how many wasted hours that is (letās just say 150 a year) just to collect all of the things. So now, instead of recognizing that effort, and indeed appreciating the effort and loyalty, itās being treated like a cookie for a child who behaves and you will get spanked and go on a timeout if you miss a day.
It feels like the last few months have been insult after insult to the player base.
The fact the VIP channel had a number of Whales quit enmass last month should have been a wake up callā¦.
So this daily login thing..it gonna work or what?
You dictate it. The decision is yours
You kill umpteen ships and what do get?
You get another day older and more things to click.
Captain Kirk don't you call me cause I can't go,
I owe my soul to the Scopely store.
You too can free yourself from the merciless and soulless grindā¦
Just Archive and join the future!
(Now if I could only take my own adviceā¦.)
oh thanks
I have a wonderful Upgrade the Revenant event that scores on uncommon parts
let's see, at T9 I can spend... 0. And I obviously can't refine enough to do two upgrades to it in two days in order to get to Mark iii.
And I have a Ship Trials SLB that scores huge points on upgrading... the Botany Bay.
We got an official reply on that earlier, āas intendedā
and my official reply to the official reply is "I do not care"
Wasnāt trying to troll, just sharingā¦
Though it does feel like Scopley is trying to troll the G5 player base
I know, also tbf I am not the average player as to what I have to upgrade
I tend to upgrade everything, I don't save stuff, and I don't like to move on until stuff is finished
where oh where is my arc season pass? L31 and only my frontier pass and the TC pass are up. I have all the events, and have the 15k bp points from the first event, but nowhere for them to apply. restarts and cache clears have not fixed this.
Myself and others in my alliance on APEC server are having trouble longing into the game
Any other servers finding the sane problem
Yes same in EMEA
Yep; s10 is down
Hmm š¤ I see another big compo chest coming
<@&509690795536941056> are you guys aware of this issue seeing it's not long after reset
703 seems down, everyone stuck on "retrying"
I could now log in after repairing the pc client manually
Back to normal now
So is there any way to check on the progress of this?
<@&509690795536941056> Mission Part 3 if you select Athena parts for the reward it requires you to build the Athena??? Is that by design?
Yeah, we got something similar by the past
It starts you at max days
If that is true i should have the bulk refine for faction store.. i do not
Did you do the update
My bad.. it wasnt there at reset yesterday.. my apologies
No worries š
what the best crew for Athena ?
Is it worth getting?
Scopely mƶchte uns Spieler melken wie eine Kuh, es ist mittlerweile nur noch Schwachsinn den die bringen und versuchen daraus auch noch Geld zu ziehen.
At what level is this update? I got the bulk claim but no building, athena etc.
61
Ok. Guess i dont get anything again.
@ashen finch and @plucky vessel good morning
Good morning Cruzito! Are you recovered from DJz not agreeing with you last night?!?! š
Is there 6* rare crystal missing in the Outpost SLB?
Okay. What's wrong with my game then? Have it updated and cleared the cache one time today. Am OPs 70.
what does yours show
asking
mine shows rare G6 crystal, S51, OP71
I have created a ticket just now via help/FAQ in-game. Probably it will get solved.
it's missing for me too.
Same for me Arsenic at ops 69
is domination bp scoring properly? stubborn determination 246,000 power i got 70,000 and its 3x event?? rearch is x10? what am i not getting right ?
rewards are 3x, not scoring
k ty for that info, i wait till my 20 helps and speed it up maybe have to finish the research (not start) it
and yes, you need to complete research to get the power from it for score
domination scoring ok finished the event and bp complete š
The first arc mission: if you choose the option of getting Athena parts, it then requires you build (BUY) the Athena to complete the mission. Iāve been told that if the other option is chosen, the mission can be completed WITHOUT having to build it.
Not informing us about the BUY requirement in advance indicates what a $pit STFC has become.
I now have no way to complete all the arc missions before they expire without an expenditure I canāt afford.
Open a support ticket to have them complete the mission
Game is dead or dieing slowly dependant on your view..... Money has gotten to the core and lost the love of Star Trek, how sad and unfortunate that the Star Trek universe has developed into this pit of greed.
The Star trek story was never about profit, this game is and I 100% understand that thgame has to make money to survive,; fair enough.
The strategy has been new content, new officers and a new ship now and again(have to pay to get it).
All ships should be free, offices not, boosts etc should not, but ships should be free. To build a fleet you need ships. Free ships would give something to the players. I would love 5 mins with the VP to tell him how I feel after all these years.. How disappointing, how let down I am and how to change STFC...
.. Investment in the players and the players will help you, everything you deliver is new content and PTW, lol well your stragey has a printed a sad voice through discord etc etc, This is going south, don't kill my game over greed. Very sad.... Hendrix
Game is working perfectly
But thats not bug, its just greedy demand translated: Are you ready to psy hard cash or wait atleast a year to continue.
sure is, but at least this time you chose it š
Likewise. Ops68.
Though to be honest, with all the nerfs I thought it had been intentionally left out
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Obviously only discord mods get rare crystal
The BPs were made over last month and still no G5 epic gas or ore? What the excuse for that?
Why does revenant upgrade event not count rare parts?
sweet cant complete mission because you have to build the athena. So now I cant complete the complete missions event...that seems to make sense
well, see above, customer support for the win, for all those not reading what the mission actually asked you š
Is there a work around to complete Principles of Starship Engineering without buying the Athena or contacting CS?
arguably it's a bit of gaslighting, since we were taught throughout the game choices don't matter, only rewards do, but in this case...
If this is the best you can do just let it die
But ⦠look at bulk faction claims
anyone else experiencing a full game exit when crossing back and forth between arena and their regular server?
Again, let it die
On top of that.. and this is really where the full āqualityā of Scopley really showsā¦
You can choose as one of the two rewards .. Athena blue prints.. but to complete the mission where you get the reward of Athena blue prints.. you must build the Athena .. complete the quest ..
In other words ⦠you have to buy the Athena for 100 euroās ⦠build it. The quest is then completed .. and only then .. you wil recieven 6 Athena blue prints ššš
It is so insane stupid design . I canāt believe the low quality and stupidity and how these things get past testings⦠itās just not tested. Nobody can be so stupid to design a quest like that.
@dreamy patio
that is exactly why I donāt even bother with this event
It's your fault for not spending enough. Get that credit card out.
Thatās just complete ******* misinformation. Youāve confused the promo code, and the mission.
The Athena choice gives you parts, not BPās.
I have the Athena and, as you can see, having completed the mission I have 0/200 bps for another one.
I havenāt taken yet the promo code, which gives you BPās. Which will sit there.
There are many things to complain about today, this isnāt one..
So you didnāt use the code for this arc yet? It gives 6 bps
Sfacpt2
Also gives some duo wave defense start tokens
Not yet no, and thatās a little starter for those who donāt buy the ship, thatās fine.
Indeed, completely useless to me, the Duo starts are good tho :))
I have larger issues of no bp, and no daily login, to deal with today š¤¦š»āāļø
If not itās cool just letting ya know itās available
Yeah Iāll grab it, thanks for reminder š
Assuming that it actually works ehā¦
Maybe thereās a āmake bp appearā token hidden in there tooā¦
Im in the habit of closing and restarting anyhow, as the built in switchover kills sounds effects. Always has, as it does for incursions, or when clearing cache and restarting.
āSoftā app restart is trash
Well now I have 6 bps Iāll never use š”
Not sure the two duoWD starts are adequate compensation for the ocd trigger š”
š¤£
Hey I warned ya what was in it⦠tell your OCD to live with it or start getting bps for a second one š
They could at least have put a few parts in with the promo code also. Help those who wonāt buy the ship with some bps, help those who do, with some parts.
Mind you, given how much is quite seriously broken today, there will need to be some āmeaningfulā compensation on its way.
Not sure how itās possible for myself and I guess many others to not have our BPās. Again.
Itās an event. How hard is it to make it appear? I mean, really?
For it to have happened at the start of Pt1 was bad enough, it took a long time to sort out, compensation was needed, manual support intervention was still required for some.
That was bad enough.
But youād think that they would have wanted to avoid that fiasco and fix whatever the issue was so it didnāt happen ever again.
Yet here we go again, this will tie up support for days, waste everyoneās time.
Scopely really does seem to live by the motto āif itās worth doing wrong, itās worth doing wrong at least twice..ā
š¤·š»āāļø idk Iām not a programmer lol
Worst of all is it inevitably puts a downer on what should be a positive launch for players with the new QoL stuff which is undeniably excellent.. if a little late.. and with a couple minor bugs..
Does it happen to you? New bug for mine experience I guess. When my ship logs into a system there is a delay of ~5 sec for the content to show. The same is when I play with multiple ships in different systems / switch between them or check the mining ships, or log into my home system. (EU 135, lvl 53, happens with Win desktop and Android, all updates applied)
āļø Posted on #š¾-bug-reporting too
So it seems the kirāshara is not working?
I have the exact same thing
An unpleasant delay. Even thought that something had gone wrong with my computer or with the ISP. Upload it to #š¾-bug-reporting , let's hope there will be some reflection and solution.
This same delay in part started in December with mining nodes not being detected when you moved on and off them.
Requiring you to restart the game to allow it catch up. Same thing with dailyās not counting same thing with items not appearing in inventory until you restart the game. These issues have slowly gotten worse over the last few months. Hopefully they can be fixed.
So no 6* rare crystal in the outpost slb for ops 70? And my battlepass still looks screwed...š¤
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Maybe my in-game name helps? Lako123
had the same issue with rare gas g6 but now it's fixed. Tbh from the screenshot you posted crystal is rounded blue so it should be rare
But the other two on the right which I have marked... Is that new or a mistake? The rare 6* gas was added in the second milestone...š¤
They splitted basic resources (parsteel, tritanium, dilithium) from materials (crystal, ore, gas) but don't ask me why
So that's new and intended to be like that?
just put back the officer choice just for 3 days at least we can spend on whoever we want
+1
but make it permanent instead
The officer choice random is ridiculous give us back choice of officers or reduce the cost of pulls to 500 per pull 4000 for one shard is bad enough when you get a choice but 4000 for 1 random shard is insulting
and sometimes you get no shard amazing
Scooply split a 1 day reward into a 2 days of rewards...
outpost slb not rewarding rare 6* crystal? seems odd that?
Seriously, rss on 1 day and mats on the 2nd which used to be 1 bundle..
Yeah... G7 players do get rares- even g6 rares. But those of us in G6 seem to have been shafted.
Aphelion Engineering SMS not working š
@dreamy patio any update on the missing 6* rare crystal from the Outpost SLB rewards?
What is this day 3 of the arc... and nothing arc related worth my time for OPS 60 or 40... the OPS 40 "recruit" SLB is only for 10 shards with a 40-50 bracket... not worth my mats... the paragon recruit chest are just plain bad... a third of the officers are virtually worthless, half are easily obtainable elsewhere for free and better results...
yall are doing a dang fine job keeping engagement up...
gonna be another dailies and done.
Yeah as G5 wouldn't disagree with that. Gonna give em a full week to see if anything comes up and then I'm just going to start putting weekly shields up and checking in on a weekend.... I think this game's over now.
Officer depot tokens as a reward but no longer an officer depot store?
Players have been complaining about it for a month since the change was announced. Those officer depot store folders had a countdown timer on them, but now they are gone.
Now everything is you'll get if and when we give ..
No material or officer choice
Officer shards terminated for good from battlepasses?
Indeed. New scopes svp seems to be changing the whole STFC from game of choice and strategy to āgame of chanceā like lots of other gambling āgamesā
2 things. Weekly events with epic officer shardsbare gone.
Second, they may now have to disclose the rng in regards to the ' gambling ' aspect
If gambling apps are required by law to do this, STFC may have to start doing it as well
Some games, if you buy tokens then spin/ roll for rewards, have some kinda govt oversight
Gambling industry generally does
1 game I played had some issues in EU,
You purchased gems, then rolled (rng) to win heros
Then some EU agency 2as all over them for about have to publish th3 odds. Or,sometimes like that
they added a random pull in the officer section... officer depot tokens are basically ultra recruit 2.0 at this point.
since they just posted about them... the paragon officer choice is worthless ... is just that. basically running a recruit event for a chance at "10 new shards for a questionable, at best, officer" and random chances at old officers you probably dont need anymore.
"Going forward, each Paragon Recruit Store will be available during its arc and will close at the end of it. Before the next arc begins, the store will briefly return for a final chance to spend any remaining Tokens. Be sure to use your Tokens before it closes."
It's a step worse than that as in the BP you can get shards to buy 1 of 3 ops-relevant officers... but it's paid only. So seems to be widening the P2P/F2P gap
Even p2p are getting plenty of garbage transporter patterns from all these new officers rng boxes
the point being they moved specific-officer sourcing to p2p only
transporter patterns are fine for getting a couple of good officers if you're new to the game, which helps you catch up quickly, but most of them came from choice
Generally agree, but the point is that even $$$ no longer guarantees officers unlock until you $$$ big amount to get the guarantee pulls
have you looked at the shop/paid tier on BP?
134 patterns in the pass
half elite, half mythic
1 per BP
so a full Doctor/Chakotay or half a Janeway
These are not new officers
Yeah, but sourcing them is important in catching up which seems to be somewhat of a goal for Scopely
also your officers will probably be different to mine
Agree. The first 2 are still meta even in G7, but I was referring to how new officers are now sourced vs few months ago
ah fair, I know nothing about that as I'm not there yet š
Really since Cota was dropped.
And all you got really was T1, maybe 2
But I'm sure a number of peeps spent some $ for those unlock events
<@&509690795536941056> it's the 2nd run of Outpost Defender SLB and 6ā Rare Crystals are missing again.
Is there a reason why G4 have here classic faction vs fed/rom/kli on top and G5 not?
janeway, unlock to max, is in the augment faction store with the reliant. emh doctor is meh with all the plus loot now. chakotay is a B or even C team armada officer/captain now.
all 3 are also sourced in the exborg faction store with the NX.
BUT⦠not everyone is even seeing those 3ā¦
OPS 40 has sisko, borg hugh and 5⦠3 very easily sourced officers through the bajoran faction store, augment faction store, epic borg solo chest and transporter patterns.
OPS 60 has snw james kirk, snw sam kirk, snw mbenga⦠all 3 arent really necessary even though i use snw james kirk a lot.
Yeah, I already have Janeway, few BPs away from Doctor, but sourcing them in any reasonable timeframe isn't going to happen as easily anymore
You just have the 1 event?
yes
Faction Hunt again???? Isn't that now 7 days in a row of this event.... rehashing this tedious event day after day, with nothing new to imspire engagement. All new content targetted at L61+, the TL;DR release notes, barely mentioned any events for players below L61+. Becoming increasingly disenfranchised from this game.
Lol. G5 didn't even get the event.
Seems like an excellent incentive to stop trying to sandbag and push your ops up. This is expressly why scopely is targeting this group of players, they arent interested in small fries who intentionally stay small.
Because itās clear Scopeylys turned G5 into a punishment game trying to get us to race to G6ā¦
Additionally G5 gets SMSās that only reward G4 materials etc, and we are told āas intendedā
<@&509690795536941056>
My gripe about Scopley deliberately trolling G5 this and last Arc aside with events that only reward G4 material (weāve been told itās āas intendedā) ..
But can we get a comment on why G5 didnāt get the additional events?
I have a question as to why the SLB bracket is so large from a level perspective? I am a solid lvl42, yet in the Paragon Recruit Event, I am competing against lvl 50 and 51 where the *5 mats are in plenty. It does not make sense at all
what did this give SFACPT2 I didnt see any boxes just took me to the store to buy packs š©
2800 x Duo Simulation Codes + 6 x Athena bps
G5 isnāt plentiful at 50 or 51. 50 is still technically g4 and 51 can only get uncommon 5* if I remember correctly.
But level brackets for events have never been fair to be honest.
Really not liking this new lack of the new officer shards for mats events tbh ... pretty abysmal and lack in bp as well ... not a good move there
depends on your perspective... Scopely is probably loving the change as they dont have to give anything worthwhile out as a result... I'm loving how they framed all the changes as "we are now going to give out more rewards" so they could try to say that it was a quality of life update. I pretty much knew that they were taking a ton of stuff away from us when they announced the event changes. š
Everything they are 'giving 'out is paid $.
An OPS 50 has 3 additional ships to build/ tier. It's not just about having the material but something to spend it on also ..
Agree and disagree, allot of it is how you play the game.
Personally a slow grow OPās 56 and was careful about maximizing the āscrap cycleā (building lower tier ships and scrapping them) while focusing on parts and material efficiency upgrades.
Learned the ABS loop from a big in my early days (āAlways Be Scrappingā) and that concept is why so many G6+ players are furious over first the delay of G5 scrapping and now itās horrifically bad recent implementation.
Thankfully youāve got some time before worrying about that.
Between that and pulling from every single source that could give me G4* (and now G5) resources I rarely ran out.
So by the time I hit G5* I had multiple maxed G4 Uncommon, Rare and Epic ships to scrap which immediately spring boarded my growth.
As a G4 in the lower G5 bracket it can be hard, without question, but itās not impossible, plan to go into G5 with multiple G4 ships maxed and ready for the recycler..
Thatās assuming Scopley doesnāt wreck the game further and we donāt all rage quit
Day 4 of nothing arc related thats worth my time or engaging for OPS 60 or 40...
Dailies and done... again
or is this day 5?
Feel you at OPs 56, we are missing both the higher end tasks and cut out of the lower end ones,
<@&509690795536941056> follow up to my ping about this yesterday.
Why is G5 being strangled out of participation in events?
By either excluding us from events or giving only G4 rewards.
-Last Arc (and I assume this one) we had the Maverick Faction Events removed.
Those who rushed to 56+ suddenly found all the SMS and related events removed (Conqueror, Oblit/Suppressor kill tasks) with the Faction rewards from said events unavailable.
(Confirmed working as intended by Arsenic)
-Last Arc (and confirmed on this one) we started seeing events only reward us G4 materials.
There are multiple events, from Ship upgrade SMS and SLBās, Faction hunt SMSās etc that started rewarding materials One full grade below our current material refine ability.
(Confirmed working as intended by Arsenic)
-This Arc weāve been cut out of the Faction Hunt SMSās linked to the SLB
Finding them completely missing for x2 days in a row.
FOMO by exclusion and starvation isnāt going to drive G5 players into G6
Itās going to drive us to Archive or Delete, look on your discord and you will see examples of it, better yet look at the week by week logins and Archive / Deletion requests
Hello
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Nothing to discuss hereš
The Global Release was a non event.
We haven't been included in it @tidal ravine as far as I can tell
pathetic
Yea like I havenāt even had an Apple update for my game, I wouldāve thought that I would with the new updates, my last update was 22/11/2018
I'm still trying to get them to put my existing account on this device. It's been over 24 hours. I just want to actually play the game.
Oh real? Do@you have a new phone?
I'm in the US, so I could only download it on my phone yesterday.
My existing account is on an android emulator.
And I'm not home at my PC a lot, so I can't play it there very often, so I'm a total noob. And I was planning to go kinda crazy after the release, but...
I can't even get in. xD
I gave them player IDs, usernames, then they say they need a screenshot of the information I just gave them... I sent it again, this time in screenshot format, and now I haven't heard anything since.
@tidal ravine @sterile sage weve been fenced from new players and the update only reserved for new launch servers... Read another pre launch server is in the same boat... We're being held back most likely so that the launch players can catch up
@quick sand
I postulated that on GC three weeks ago and was laughed at.
Well we are going to be waiting 6 months or more till they do catch up
I have contacted the devs asking to provide us with an honest answer about what is happening with our server. We will se what comes out of it. If we knew what is going on, we wouldn't be so pissed.
@tidal ravine sane thing that happened with S2 vs S1... History repeats...
@sterile sage when have they ever given a response that you expect... It'll be their usual vague please be patient response...
@sterile sage have a read of the ss posted on cf server...
Not on CF server anymore, could link here plz @quick sand?
Which server are you on?
@wraith yew have a read on our #general channel
Cheers
Yup we have the same issue, on my iPhone Apple App store, i still haven't had a game update, no updated map, I have an Android Emulator on my computer and it's put me on a different server with an updated map, so I don't know why it hasn't been updated to everyone
Is the map stored in the device locally or does it download upon log in?
I'd assume the latter, which means it's not an app-version issue.
the app is basically a GUI, all activity takes place on the servers
Logical, u don't want People to be able to change values clientside to gain An advantage
Of as they say, cheat
Scopely has a lot of experience with that. Road to survival had a lot of cheaters exploiting thƩ first versions
@whole wedge
Trying to catch up asap sorry.
Just hit 128k.
so what's coming in the next few days? any good sales, a patch?
if its anything like the last 6 months monts @thorn kelp ... nothing
More tickets to support @thorn kelp
@drifting sequoia is that all mate one of our guys is 3 mil power
Well... Dam...
More events please @Devs , bring back power surge š and .......... @burnt lagoon UP THE IRONS!!:
\m/
Just Found these two events on my event list. While i al glad there s something Else tot do now, i m quite disappointed at thƩ rewards. More raw ore for mining ore? Seriously?
One of the best rewards from an event, trust me this stuff becomes invaluable later on .... especially the g3 when you go weeks without being able to get onto one ...
Does not help when you can only refine 1750 at a time
@regal parcel i can mine G3 just fine
Can now do two batches but drop rates for uncommons are still very poor
I would give uncommon or rare material as rewards. Now it s just less useful extra raw Materials. You actually don't get vetter by doing them
Kitiara what lvl refinery do you need to do two batches?
10-12 if i remember correctly
Oh are the batches for the refinery fixed now? I've been doing singles ever since the math was off.
G3 Batches
ah hangs head
@abstract gate I found that a good event for this Farmtrek game
G2 gas mining
The events on the server where my account GulDukat is weāre good now they are crap and donāt get mining events and the packs are not worth purchasing as to be able to upgrade a ship you need to spend over $300 at a time and the largest ship pack only has 200 interceptor parts. And to upgrade your station you need to spend $450 plus to just upgrade your operations to level24 due to the 3* refining rate is only 1750 at a time and you only get a max of 20 in return, so refining is crap.
i really "enjoy" the new dominion monthly events comming to our servers. in one the best players advances recieve g2 uncommon refined resources and jelly fish components. the other is giving you 5 uncommon g3 refined if you go to 500k power advance. of course the winners will be guys with high level and the rewards will be like giving 50% mcdonalds reduction coupons to millionaires. i believe at this moment we do not speak about scopely ignoring us but openly laughing in our face
Music video by Michael Jackson performing They Don't Care About Us. (C) 1996 MJJ Productions Inc.
@graceful cove , well you shouldnt worry to much, im only going for the 5 uncommom crystals ;)
And its not a 500k power advance. Its 500k points. Points are given following a scoring scheme.
hurray. less competition for nothing :)
i have noother information. it says 500k power. how should i calculate? 500k peanuts?
No just read the scoring system information...
For example. Spending one ship xp point will gain you 25 points
Meaning when you upgrade a ship one level using 3000xp points. You gain 3000 x 25 points
For the event
This isnt rocketscience
...
nooo. what is one point by base or by research? there is no such information. neither for ship or crew
I said for example
They have adapted to the weak ships before event start tactics
Its was to illustrate its not a one to one ratio woth the power level
when you upgrade you have no such information anywhere
If it were it would be and almost impossible event. It the would have to make the event last a few months
so in the end you do your updates as usual because nobody gives a sh.it in explaining the points. let's say i agree with 500k target for one of the event for conversation
but what about the second event where the best of the best get only g2 usnrefined ores as reward and jelly?
Well thats quite shitty
both of them are shitty. points or power
Well the not ranking one gains me atleast 5 uncommon
The second chest from the to contains uncommon gas i beleave
And unfortunatly these otems are extremely rare
when you upgrade something you have no clue how much power you gain. combined with the fact your power decrease if you actuvate an older ship. this is bulshit calculation.
just start with lowest rated ships
and swap them when event begins
and you got a free power boost
Its true that you dont know beforehand how much power is gained by building. But by now you should have a feel for it
Looks like they are giving the winner on each server jelly prints and the Res to build, and spock.
building can vary
There are no points for changing ships now if you read the scoring
since one moment i get alot of points from defences
That's what I said doc
and then the other day i get like 400 points
my feel is the devs dont know what they are doing.
You should now that upgrading a parsteel gen gives u almost no power points and a defence platform does
@abstract gate ah yes, just read up š
irelevant. today is so tomorrow is different. is not published and devs can change it tomorrow
The exact amount maybe, but not the ratios
Nothing will change, scopely MO
Parsteel gen will alwyas give less pwr points thenn defense platform
do not tell me is a rationale behind this. if there is a formula is deep inside the code and nobody wknows it. look at the balance of the game. it explains a lot
do you expect anybody to reverse engineer the formula that will change with the next update?
Well im not saying there are hidden formulas im just saying that. Upgrading def platforl, drydock generaly gives more points then the generators
seems random to me
The exact points maybe ramdom. But i mever got more points for a gemerator than a def platform
So thats quite consistent
until is an official website with same formulas you can ignore the events goals. you cannnot check it you cannot control it you can onoy pay for something
Just saying that if you want to get max points. Focus on def platforms, drydocks. And ship power r&d
sorry. i'm in minning mode until i quit after the next release. here is nothing to go forward. without 100 euros i need to wait few years to go to lv 24. what about going to lv 50? bill gates will find it difficult
i'm back. just to update a dock to lv 23 i need 1.3kk parsteel. the max reward i will get if i get 1st place(no chance) it will be 750 tritanium. this is assuming one upgrade will somehow get me the first place. jelly is of course useless
Jups your right
Im also in mining mode. For a few weeks now
Only advantage i have is that i cam actualu refine uncommon
And have double batch for g3
So in gaining an average of 6 uncommon a day
what warp length?
Warp length?
warp range
I have the horizon so can practicly go to all the intresting spots
so you can play alone :)
Events have obviously been designed to suck your wallet dry... No way is it possible to complete most of them except...
Its possible.... til you reach level twenty or so lol
Disagree @tawny kettle .. Iām level 29 and still find it impossible to complete events even with high level ships... because repair costs so high...
Lower level events are way easier
Chinkywog i have alts on two other servers, while u still got buildings, crew etc u can still upgrade with speedups plus lower goal barriers make them doable up to a point til buildings take over a day same with research etc
Anyone got jellyfish farming tips? The bps drop from pve boxes and deff not spending 50 bucks for the ship
@noble spade ive been grinding it via system mission. Slowly but surely got 35 so far. When viewing missions in system. Click the reward box. It will tell you what you get for completing the mission. Usually its 5 jellyfish blue prints.
I got 74/75.. no quest available..
I start building my f2p jelly already
It was some event couple weeks ago where 1 place get 1 jelly shard (officers exp or ship exp I don't remember )
Is the officer event not running again?
Ofc not...might make it too easy for f2p players to maximise their gains...just cas grab events like station and research to milk the whales whilst dominion runs...
Scopely clearly doesn't credit us with enough intelligence to see through their shallow greed
If there is on it'll be in the 1am-7am bracket just to f with us.
@abstract gate ever consider Scopely are ferengi in hiding? Just their biz practices
Ferengi, worst aliens ever... disgusting to a fault... Yet that was the point...
"Greed is eternal" repeat after me
Greed!
Is eternal...."
@burnt lagoon consider expanding your knowledge, read the ferengi trade manual
Not that ferengi have appeared in kelvin star trek yet
Satisfaction is not guaranteed. Rules of acquisition 19
Its okay to cheat scam or outright lie, for a ferengi not trading with a ferengi
And those traits are praiseworthy ferengi qualities, just like scopely
Exactly , The justification for profit is profit. Rules of acquisition #202
@spice lark worst manual.... Ever!
Yeah im sure scopely used it when building their store
Obviously... lol
Best thing about ferengi - those sexy lobes
Gotta luv the lobes
Quark is the best
Hello all, today i made an 2nd official complaint to scopely with belgium consumer organization Test aankoop,
I now asked to get involved with legal advice from an attorney, probably they will ask to have more players involved against a complaint at scopely, because of all the money players invested and not been able to play
as a normal game
if your are interested in joining this complaint , please contact me
through Discord ,with details Real life and the money wasted on this Alpha game
@proper jacinth what do you mean play as a normal game?
Without bugs , normal Play, not driving players to play
I a in a loop nog, Cannot Repair ships without tri but storage is not high enough to repair ships. SO i cannot mine for extra tri , need a month to have enough , i have Ine miner
But then still need a month
So to be able to do everything again the only way is invest money
Go rob bases!
Work on tiering up your ships...
we got lots of f2p members who are already raiding bases with us paying members...
Get a good enough team together and let p2p players kill bases + defending ships... then get f2p members rob them clean...
Its all about #TEAMWORK
Oh it's so much fun raiding bases... It is soooo hard to feel big and tough and meet the "challenge"...
Raiders get raided... And become targets of the powerful alliances... Whales are not safe...
I wish we could raid bases on our server...
It's only fun for payback purposes.,. It's like a point and click game otherwise...
@burnt lagoon seriously m8.. if you don't like the game and will go and spread negativity about it in every channel, the go F.O. and quit this server... i've hadit with all your complaining and negative sh*t... and i'm not alone in this btw.. i'm just venting what most are thinking! Fwd: @abstract gate @quartz forge @abstract gate
@abstract gate I am a founder... I am here to impart wisdom of the depths of the game you have not seen...
If you don't like seeing negative feedback... Don't go to the feedback section of a BETA game... stick to the stan sites...
This aint a beta-game no more m8...
Bahahahahaha sure... I guess you haven't been playing at all... go back to watching the videos...
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dude my server got released in august..
<@&509690795536941056> this is the second time I am making this suggestion.
This discord channel needs proper moderation to delete these type of arguements. So that well thought out feedback is not lost in the petty arguements. Blocking people only helps the client side.
You would prefer these guys do anything else than fixing bugs?
@naive kelp Just thinking of ways they can fix bugs quicker... One customer support agent inundated with tickets could instead be keeping the boards from getting clogged up with all the apologists telling those with well thought out feedback to "go play something else if you don't like it" every time they report a bug or aspect of the game which is obviously still BETA...
^^^^all of this
I always enjoy the "ooh if you don't like it I'll tell the boss and get you banned" posts.
@abstract gate everybody everywhere is spreading bad reviews of this game , wake up dude,
it is worse then you think
this game is a disgrace for gaming industry at the moment
never seen so many bugs , and so many demands for money in one game, because without investing money in this game you cannot progress
has nothing to do , with mining, or rading or teamwork
all to do with ripping of as much money with plenty of bugs preventing to progress
played ever FIFA mobile, or Sim city , or other popular mobile games , like pokemon,
where they so buggy the first months after release
well no, and did they ripp off players
now you can talk dutch , let me be polith ,
ja , daarvoor moet je naar Test aankoop, opdat mensen niet in de zak gezet worden.
if they had succeeded in preventing bugs , and it was normal game, with normal possibilities, than nobody would complain, but just because of the bugs, and the always increasing money scale, it is a ripp off at the moment.
FOR your information , because the 1st was playing, and every one was complaining i started a new game on Android, i played the first on IOS. well i have seen that on every OS there are similar bugs, different bugs , and features that are not appearing on the others,
i am on lvl 23 on the 1st and hanging in a loop, on the second , i am on lvl 13 with an annoying bug without support from scopely and i can progress until lvl 15. , but then it is up to my decision , invest money or keep getting slaughtered by stronger players and evolve in 4 months ( only mining bits by bits) to a next lvl.
4 months of mining is a bit tidous
and shooting red dots is no fun
after one week
and i can't do missions then because of the high lvl they are
but the heck i want pay anymore, because already invested 200⬠and lvl 23 is just shooting, mining,raiding, repairing, shooting, mining, raiding, repairing, shooting, mining, raiding, repairing
unless we are willing to pay 100 euro to have resources
@vital drum @vital drum
Oooh double tag! Hallo @bright ravine who are you and what do you want?
Lol, yeah, sorry its me being new to discord and pressing the wrong buttons and then sending and not deleting your name. Ignore me until I work out hie to use this thing. :-)
Bad morn bad... ^_^
any news off the content update?
1st 2 seem like a waste of time and it depends on how hard it is to earn the chests needed.
thereās nothing in the store to buy those tokens with
Kind of not surprised⦠They did a cash grab event for Christmas versus fixing the game
Only place ive seen tokens so far is dailys i can earn 4 for mine. Which wont buy anything.
So, you give some us a chance to earn an Uhura that went missing from our roster? Does her bonus even works? Woof...
Uhura is broken even if you do have her, has been like this a week nearly and won't upgrade because of an error
Does her ability work at least Picard?
I think she does improve accuracy
Her Ability actually works - Which Iām surprised it does
Good. I can use rare Scotty as my captain... wait, I canāt because I get an error 22.
Iām beginning to think they deliberately turned off some of the officer abilites and itās not a coding mistake
I concur.
Scotty is gone missing, when you view your officer the camera pans around and looks under the floor š
The alleged fix in January will probably include skills changes.
No he's fixed now so can't get a screenshot
So u have her as well bear?
She should work like vixis except only on no shields.
Anyone get a single piece of hadley yet? Or any of you high levels have any officers with 0 pieces?
If you check the recruit boxes, not all crew are in there. Even though Hadley is a common, you cannot pull his shard.
I donāt think Darwin or Mbenga are their either. I did earn 4 Mbenga shards through an early mission.
I didnāt see any changes either.
Scopely grant me total 40 dilithium from xmas boxes.. times must be tough.
Thatās quite a carrot.
For those that donāt have broken Uhura.
Mine is 140 CND.
A Vault of Latinum, for $100 US is only 2000 bars, so that's actually a good deal. For latinum at least.
A good deal relative to other offers in the store.
That's been true for all the non-latinum packs that I've seen though.
Ummmm, no thanks
ye typo on the latinum pack
Interesting. I'd love to see a matrix of what offers show up for how much a person has spent
was probs meant to be 20000
Yeah, I can get a peace shield pack for $100, and it comes with 5000 latinum, plus all the other stuff. So something's out of wack.
I can't actually believe these guys expect us to pay to upgrade the holiday gifts we get from them, and one part of the gift (uhura) is broken and can't be used
Yeah, that's definitely a head-scratcher. I've not even seen an Uhura shard yet, but that's making me not want to throw down money for her.
Tis the holiday season... Mostly known for giving things away, not taking it?
Of course, if you're not in here or on the subreddit, you have no idea she's potentially broken.
Ahahaha yeah no way. Thatās the only offer I have in my store LOL
If I want to participate in the event, I have no choice but to spend $100 LOL
Same here @abstract gate . I'm wondering if they only have so many slots for store items.
@abstract gate Does your show 1000 or 5000 latinum?
Right on. Some folks in Galaxy chat are saying the offer they see is 1000 latinum.
I see the above offer.
Well they arenāt getting any more money out of me⦠I learned the hard way with this company⦠They want your money but they donāt want to fix anything with the game
@abstract gate Do you also have the $99 offer?
@versed oyster can also confirm for me it is 5500, 104,99⬠on android, 110,99⬠on IOS both lv 20+
Thanks @neon heath
Mine is ā¬20.99 because I have only spent ā¬5.49 in this version
I haven't unlocked the higher cost packs
Thanks @abstract gate
@abstract gate It shouldnāt matter⦠With this event being new , they should offer you the lower Paxcks and work up for this event
Itās really silly they just throw out $99 per pack for people who spent already
I agree @abstract gate, That's why I think they may have a hard limit on offer slots in the store.
But you'd think they'd do the usual step up pattern regardless.
That step up pattern is really ridiculous⦠Iāve never seen it in any other game
other games I played simply offers you everything all at the same time
The store is broken, I get the whole work your way up to the big packs, but you should still be able to buy a 5/20/50/100 pack as you wish. You used to be able to do just that in the digprm version so the code can handle it
Well, not defending it, because it's not customer friendly, but it makes the store itself a game.
I will not spend 20 on G2 Res and parts so have asked support to unlock the higher packs just to see what they say
HEllo
I'm here to break down the event for you
Enjoy
The SHT PACK
For $129.99 the main draw is 700 super holiday Tokens
Spending 700 tokens will get you
20 Chests.
Statistically Speaking of the 20 chests you will on Average
8 Chests being 0718 Shards - 40%
5 Chests being G3 Comman Materials - 25%
4 Chests Being Urtha Shards - 20%
3 Chests Being Uncommon Materials - 15%
The maximum amount of shards per chest for Urtha is 20. Assuming you get all 4 chests to be 20 shards that is 80 shards.
80 shards is enough to promote her from level one to level 2 and have 26 shards into level 2.
This is optimal, a few will get more than this due to statisical variation, but most will get less.
So really you are paying 129.99 for a chance to promote Urtha.. and some latinum. These are the facts, spend as you will
But you can't promote her because she is broken
You also may need some crew xo as well, which I donāt see in those packages.
Hey Captain Her skills don't work
People are also trying to use the sivler package
1 chest = 5 or 20 tokens
the split is 45-50% 5 token and 55-60% 20 token from what my alliance nubmers are telling me (for regular recruits
they opened 200 chets got 475 standard shards
Result from using 700 tokens to open silver packages
Out of a Maximum of 42000 (14000 tokens[20x] possible shards, 5025 where recieved (1625 tokens)
so the chance drops range around 20-29%
@oak sage Thanks for doing the math!
Thanks goes to the player who paid $129 to work this out
Well what better way to get a refund than to be sold something to upgrade an officer, that due to a bug, can't be upgraded for nearly a week now
yup
Am I the only one who doesn't care that the pack is terrible? I just won't buy it, and those that do aren't going to get much out of it. Won't affect my gameplay in the slightest, and might make a few whales have a bit of buyers remorse.
@abstract gate still have not got rewards for race to operations 23. Support has seen quiet for some hours as well. Could you please help?
@oak wolf Trying to jump the queue? I have a ticket with CS that is approaching 2 weeks old and I have a friend with an outstanding ticket since Nov 4!
@quick sand heh, I will wait my turn :)
Just letting you know...
Once again scopely's event is just an attempt to get players to shell out money, not a real event... And if the top prize is broken, wow....
Yea I have the same issue with that Level 23 event. Sent a ticket, and this was the response,
After 6 support.. and various mishaps I finally got a supervisor
Hope they can fix it š¤£ššš ššš¤£šš¤£šš
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@oak wolf Reach out to CS for that one, they should be able help. (As I realize @quick sand already followed up) make sure your in the line. š
Seems everyone is on this.
@abstract gate when are you guys gunna get the point that your customer service people are completely useless.
@tacit lake
Scopely assessed all their new hires. The top people went into support. The bottom people went into coding and program development.
They are just doing their work with the given tools... I would believe scopely CS is currently āran over by a truckā due to massive user growth and all these problems.
Well, they are doing a good job at cutting and pasting the āpound sandā message for our tickets.
Their support needs some serious training
That isn't unique to Scopley. Most companies use templated responses, as it's more efficient to copy-paste than to write up something new every time. The corporation I work for certainly does, but we use the time saved by not having to write every message on looking into the issues reported.
I wouldn't like to be scopley currently..
@ionic sable they dont have any dedicated support. that would cost money.
Christmas pack??? What we gonna get??
Do scopely do that sort of thing?
Hahahaha check the store....you want a gift from scopely you buy it
Thats the point genious...every game i have ever played had a special christmas pack. Rookies....šš
There is one, Bizz. Itās up now. For another two days.
@valid field got a screenshot? Super holiday omni?
Yes, that one
K, thx
Its not awful, but i wanted research speed ups. Nada
Great ship pack
We got a Christmas present š
Not every one did
I didn't get one š¢
Sadly, it only lasted for 4hrs and for most in the US was in the middle of the night...
Wow hell ... what level are you @upper linden
Mine was round about half if that... (only 800 if the shards)
27
So bad I never even got this and I was logging in every hour to do combat
What level are you @abstract gate ?
What server ar eu on @abstract gate
Europeanen, started in augustus
Saw no such chest on our server @abstract gate
Yep I was playing when other people got in in my alliance, was waiting and waiting but nothing. And I was online for hours.
One of my accounts got it, but not the other... 2 different servers.
So a 4hr gift in the middle of the night...another middle finger to the player base @abstract gate @quartz forge will there be a way for those of us who missed this due to being humans that require sleep to aquire ours in the near future?
@abstract gate i got it 10 am GMT+1
@abstract gate 1am eastern
I was online then was nothing in my gifts section and we are on the same server @abstract gate @abstract gate @quartz forge explanation please
Weird @abstract gate i thought everyone received it
I definitely didn't
@abstract gate same goes for me, was also online at this time and didnt get it
You Ltn1?
Yes
@abstract gate
You need to move to a different time zone.
@pure path
Have you spent over $2000 on the game?
@abstract gate yeah same server as well then...blew up your ships a bunch when you were in MYHM š
@abstract gate @abstract gate @abstract gate I received the same as joey. Iām on the same server as you. Most in my alliance didnāt get it tho.
@q2 you reading this...f-ed up man
As far as I know nobody in my alliance got it....same server different rewards? Wtf are you playing at?
Hmm okay, than my idea of only lvl 27 getting it is gone, in my alliance also nobody got it
Gotta log for the night @abstract gate we want answers!
Me and one more in KOS got it. Iām lvl 26 and the other player is LVL 22. @abstract gate
@abstract gate
Stop whining. Don't you know that "everything is working as expected" and is done "to make the game more challenging" and to provide "a unique gaming experience"?
LOL
@tidal ravine hilarious name
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Anyone else NOT get the Daily Cosmic Solo Carnage Event this last time? Unable to compete in Alliance or Solo leaderboards due to lack of dailly, and no change after restart and uninstall/reinstall
Same. It looks like levels 20-23 are unable to complete the daily cosmic solo carnage event
Didn't get the solo carnage either am level 22
Same, also posted in bug reporting
It came back for me it had disappeared for me too.
<@&509690795536941056> @abstract gate i filed a ticket with support on thƩ Points difference on 27th december nut have still received no reply...
Think I asked in another thread @abstract gate - but no reply at all?
@prime bronze You are not the only person to have mentioned this - have you seen any improvement? I believe this was being investigated.
@abstract gate The event came back with the reset of daily quests, but progress towards Alliance and Solo leader boards was lost š¢
@quartz forge would it be possible to bring new fresh players to our server? I have the feeling it is slowly dying
@abstract gate the natural cycle of these sorts of games are launch, 90% quit, merge. With 2 or 3 others. Its then that the fun begins. Its early days, stick with it.
@tiny flame I thought so, but would be nice to know that it will happen (or better when)
Pretty sure it will. They definitely have built it so it can as merges have already happened on older servers afaik.
Be careful what you wish for, founding servers S1 & S2 were merged and was a total screw up...
How do you know which server your on?
You can't
@signal zinc look at the top3 alliances. Then see of your friend has the same.
sooo, this event is ass..
It's a speed up sinkhole.
It can be done while making a profit
can be. but is it really worth it?
Yes. The rewards are nice. But itās exhausting. Iām ranked 1 on my server. To hold it I must login and combat every 6 hrs
but even if i wanted to get the top rewards, i physically couldnt just because of how they scale it
even the 50-100 rewards are solid and on my server being top 50 is realistic at level 17 (i wont get there but still)
Yep at lvl24 the parsteel alone is worth the effort leaderboard is a bonus if you can rank but not a deal breaker if you can't
Can also build 2 more envoys if i wanted to and a second kehra just from pve chests opened during the event š
Yeah vsnyls right im rank 1 too but i have to wake up at 530 just to hit the event lol
Itās really stupid to game cannot handle a tie
As of right now itās the first person to reach the cap Gets first place
Yeah it sucks
They shouldāve done is let you kill as much as you can in a six hour period vs just a fixed set of points
That wouldāve been more fair across-the-board
And make every hostile one point regardless of your level⦠That would give lower level is the same opportunity to win is higher levels and that way it would be about time spent in the game versus what level you are
Im top 20 on my server but i see no point in keeping it with all the resources im wasting
What resources are you wasting for it? I haven't had an issue capping my trophies at any point, just naturally repairing with plenty of time.
I personally dont waste any just bacuse i farm and mine trit, but others dont get the concept
i maybe profit a few thousand trit
it's just annoying
Ah, you meaning just the tritanium your are spending on repairs?
Yeah, I haven't run into that issue myself. I've got enough time to recoup more than I'm spending each 6 hour block.
im literally grinding my ass off for 2 hours like im playing WOW all over again. this is kinda insane for a mobile game
and not to mention the upgraders i had to do to make my strat work correclty
Well there's two strats that both work: 1) You clear out everything you can until your ship is about done, and go back to repair. You can do this with a higher level ship and finish in 2-3 cycles, taking about 2-3 hours. 2) You can do ships in your home zone, 1-3 at a time, and repair in between. With alliance help getting you to the 5min free mark you can basically do it indefinitely, but it requires far more 'grinding' than method 1.
I go with 2 just cause I hate being on this game and waiting
ive noticed that the jelly fucks people over more than it helps in this event
Any idea yet on when the next big event (I.e. like the jelly event) will start?
selling of a 3* ship event? Yes. Please
@thorny snow I agree they need to make those 25 or whatever jelly shards available for purchase again.
Im not super motivated for my remaining missions ATM because even if I max them out I cant get a jelly.
That the kind of thing that if it goes on long enough makes you bored with the game.
@thorny snow where have you found most of yours? I was getting jelly prints in the area of rigel then it seemed to stop after that
I got 50 of mine from jelly event... missions just donāt exist I donāt think
is anyone else getting the event reward pop up (from event that ended yesterday) over and over?
Yeah I get the reward pop up over and over. Unfortunately I am not getting the reward repeatedly š
Is jb scopely a dev?
No
I have 50 jelly prints and didnāt get any from the event
The event wasn't offering Jelly blueprints.
Anyway this new event is for p2w players can we get more active player events like the last hostile one
Anyway this GAME is for p2w players can we get more active player events like the last hostile one FTFY
All mobile games are for P2W. These things aren't operating on charity...they've got to pay the staff, the licensing, the server costs, the marketing. This isn't a generous donation to the Star Trek fanbase, it's a business model. F2P get to indulge in a product they had no part in helping succeed, while P2W players keep it going, so that both groups can enjoy it.
That being said, this game is still incredibly kind to free players. My buddy hasn't spent a dime, and because he was in a high level alliance he placed 2nd in the cosmic carnage event and is currently in the top spot for this one. Without spending a dime, he's about to get maximum rewards. So the best advice I can give you is be active and go find a better group to play with.
yes but you always have an element of f2p players, the game is boring as shit for them, you build a bit, you try mine, you get owned, you fight a couple higher level reds, repair, rinse repeat
get missions you cant complete without paying to uprade
now i'm all for playing and paying
but no one is making this game attractive to those who are mainly f2p or want to dip their fingers in
my alliance is plenty good thank you very much,
and i want to chip into this game with my cash
but without literally diving in, and hoping there is something else to come, its hard for me to part with what free cash i have
That was meant for both of you. War complained about the event, which can be easily solved with just throwing in with good players.
nod
i get there are whales and krakens and all that jazz, and good for them
but catering for one particular crowd, even though it is business, is selfish and a cunts trick
And I totally get that. If it's any consolation, not much is different for us paying players. Mine, upgrade, and look for PvP. If this weren't a mobile game it wouldn't be enough. But it's working out great as a way to waste some time between other games I take more seriously.
There is a balance that isnāt met yet to have f2p and p2w both enjoy the game and since nov they have made arse tons of money just off the people I see in my server, and Iāve spent a small amount and will continue to as life allows if the game gets more balance there is no way a level 24 maxed 3* ships paying to win should be allowed to mow over a level 19 f2p player and I also ranked 2nd in carnage event with my alliance and top 100 solo due to activity but it was kinda crap the lower level you were the less you could help your alliance with the event
i play a lot of MSR
i put in a fair bit
because i feel like i can get a return in some cases
tll the red orbs fucked everything up
balance is super off here
lower players are just bullied
and no one, the bully, nor the developers give a rats ass
as long as they both get what they want
You'd be surprised. I've been raiding plenty of bases lately, but if they PM me and ask me to stop I've always done so and given them some tips to ensure they don't make such an easy target for the next guy. Even the 'bullies' are just playing the game as it's designed, but not all of them want to ruin someone else's experience.
you'd be in the minority
resource mining now on my server is to the point of ridiculousness
you cant even get parsteel without being shafted by dicks who dont even mine after
@vital laurel same here with 1m building costs you're forced to hunt player bases lol.
Although I will say this game has some design features that smartly keep parity between spenders and freebies. For one, a lot of the big whales on my server have surpassed everyone in levels to the point that they can't participate in PvP. My alliance has a few 800k+ players who are too far to join in on any of our PvP activities, leaving the rest of us (free players and light spenders) to do most of it. It's definitely not as simple as P2W > F2P. There is an entire dolphin and minnow middle section that has it's place in that structure too. I've spent about $400 so far, and there are things I can do that are definitely easier and there are also players that effortlessly crush me.
@neon heath Yes, that 100%! I had stayed completely out of the PvP side of the game until my Jelly started costing 8k in Tritanium each repair and upgrades were in the hundreds of thousands. Suddenly a base with 600k tritanium was too important to pass up.
If anything, they need to look at resource gain and increase that a bit so that people aren't looting everything out of sheer desperation.
@vital laurel we have 4mil+ players that can hit 14 levels below theirs...
so level 34 players that can hit level 20s
@vital laurel it really is. I feel the same also spend a couple of ⬠but at this point i feel like the game is slowing down tremendously and spending more ⬠just isn't worth it. You really need to play more, or rather, take more. PvP at lvl 21+ is almost mandatory to keep up with parsteel. It can't be properly mined (at least as i can see at my rank, t6 envoy still needs 45m to mine a 14K rock!!!!! 1 player base in 5 seconds grants 28K). Bases protect shield, power score up, next base. Vicious circle lol. I would at least be glad if officers worked so we can hunt hostiles properly with increased rewards.
Can't collect either; the storage is max 360-500K. Buildings requiring 1m multiple times.
Yeah, they definitely wanted to funnel everyone into fighting over resources, because it gets expensive, quick.
end of the day, if the game hadn't already made a shit tonne of money, you'd get more from the devs, the support and probably the game itseld
I won't argue that. If they weren't succeeding they'd have no choice but to do something. The packs would have been better/cheaper if nothing else.
its down right rude to customers to rls before christmas
with so many issues
and think fuck it till next year, we will still make a shit ton
Well that seems to be the 'in' thing to do now in games. Look at Atlas.
Worst game launch of 2018, and likely all time. Sold a ton of copies. Still a broken mess.
I just hate the 'forced PVP game'. I am 100% a non-PvP player, just here to help but things like this just force me to. But i wish there were more options. I would love to mine it more properly or even trade it. Unfortunaly the game isn't finished yet and with progress slowing down so badly i won't reach the next miner in at least 2 weeks lol.
Or months idk xd
Mining speed needs to increase, node capacity should be larger, and protected cargo should be higher. I think the PvP should be less about looting people's mining ships and more about coordinated base raids.
I do feel bad for the lower level players who are stuck with 1k tritanium nodes.
i assumed thats what armadas would be
It doesn't need change in particular i love the way you actually need to play and get resources to progress and cant just freeload it... but its soo much 'PvP in your face' imo
I was hoping armadas would be a raid feature that isn't about PvP.
@vital laurel Armadas will be a pvp event ,,, there will also be a tournament which will also be pvp ... this is a pvp game, not a farmville
@vital laurel definitely for higher tier survey ships imo. Its already great but both fixed bonusses and officers not working makes it so meh. Choosing lower ranked survey ships just for the bonus mining is super risky due to low power score and protective cargo. Let us customize ships with their abilities. Very much same for combat vessels... Fixed stats are so meh lol and make certain ships either completely useless or obsolete to obvious better picks. Good example is a jelly vs the common t4 romulan explorer. The jelly has combat bonus vs its counter, the explorer just has increased defenses while defending. It serves no combat purpose other than power score. :/
take a look at any other scopely game, you cant expect any different here
@quick sand. Where i pretty much 100% disagree. Miners have limited protected cargo, so do bases. If you farm, someone else can take it fom you... Your base or your miner. It would only make much more sense to promote farming to make more PvP targets. Loads of low level bases barely have decent resources unless paid for.
@quick sand Well, sort of. It's already not just a 'PvP' game because the majority of it is spent building your station, upgrading ships, mining, and fighting NPC hostiles. PvP accounts for a percentage of the activities, but it is closer to Farmville than you might want to admit.
@neon heath Go play SimCity Buildit then ... this is a pvp game, plain and simple
@quick sand please make me an argument vs a 'gtfo' lol.
@vital laurel You're dead wrong ... this is pvp pure and simple ... yes there is a mining/grinding element to the game, it is called progression
It's a lot more complex than that. If was JUST PvP, then you'd have two options: attack a player or repair your ship. That isn't a game any of us would be playing. There are tons of PvE elements than anchor the game and give it enough substance to keep investing into.
You are skirting around admitting that it's not just a PvP game. That progression is called PvE.
That's fine though man, you do you. Lot's of players are enjoying the game with varying degrees of PvP, and that's they way the game is built.
You look at any PVP MMORPG and they all have the same elements ... I also play many others like Nova Empire, they're all the same ...
No game is solely 'PvP' and if it were so convince me wrong. Any game has build in features that both work PvP and PvE way. This game has perfectly build in features like protective cargo and base raiding but just severely lacks more PvE content to progress and the sole purpose for this is the fact it is unfinished. Look at the market, look at the bank. Features that probably focus on mostly PvE and probably also have some kind of PvP in it. PvP is not bad, it is in fact good and rewarding. Currently it is just 'too simple' without having decent features. Gaining 1m parsteel can only decently obtained by raiding simply bcs everything else requires either loads of repair costs or just waaaaay to many time spend vs just taking it from others.
Although maybe you are right. I know for me personally every time I click the button to upgrade my academy I shout out "Take that noobs...get wrecked!" because of how hardcore PvP it is. When I complete a daily quest that involves mining resources, defeating NPCs, or upgrading my station? Doesn't get any more PvP than that. Living the life.
There is no other option but PvP, that is my problem. It is ONLY PvP as mining a 14K rock for 45 minutes doesn't make sense when you can steal 20K+ in 5s from someone else. Currently it is the most logical outcome; raid em' all.
IT's the way the game mechanics work ...
@neon heath Yeah, which is why I wouldn't mind seeing the rates increased. It would still be an issue of now you have even more resources to lose in a raid, but at least recovering from one would be a lot easier. And staying strictly PvE wouldn't be as punishing if that's the way you want to play.
mind you though, if you were to attack miners or other player bases on our server, the top 5 alliances have cf agreements and you will be hunted down (in minutes) and your rss will be farmed from your base with faction miners
@quick sand its just because it is unfinished, thats all. And i only hope the game will eventually include said features to improve more on PvE. A game is never only PvP, perhaps in the late-game resources can be limited to PvP (and i mean rare resources to upgrade end-game ships) but not basic resources, which should be accessible by all at any time, not just only by PvP.
@vital laurel I've been playing for almost a year ... on the founding server the mining rates were far better, not nerfed like they are now... it's scaled so that if you want to get resources quickly, you either fork out real money or partake in pvp hitting miners and bases
@vital laurel even with higher rates PvP can and will punish you. Raid you or your miner. It can only benefit both PvE and PvP player but imo its just the game lacking features rn.
It would be more risk vs reward, but better if you are active in getting that miner back safely.
we catch miners returning to base if they're been hitting others
How many Jellyfish parts can be obtained through missions? I'm at 50 right now (25 being an event reward).
@quick sand noob question š. What does cf mean and what does your cf agreement dictate?
cf = cease fire
Ah
Yep, got those.
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We call it non aggression pacts on my server instead of cf but itās just another name for the same thing.
yes ... NAP = Non Aggression Pact, different to a cease fire
NAP might be an agreement of closer collaboration but the outcome is the same as a cease fire. I donāt really agree that stealing rss from bases is that easy. You need powerful ships with large cargo holds to make it worthwhile.
cf is one to one .. NAP is a common bond where a cf is between a NAP (group of alliances) and a single alliance
Ok
if one alliance in a NAP goes to war with an alliance, all alliances in the NAP participate
True
whereas a cf is a one to one arrangement
so on our [S1] server, the top alliances have a NAP... if another alliance wants to fight one alliance in the NAP, all jump on that one aggressive alliance...
Still raiding bases isnāt as easy as stated above in my opinion. I know on your founding server faction ships are common but on my server where the most common ship is a tier 5 vahklas or Kehra raiding a base for millions of parsteel just isnāt cost effective.
yes, you want the trit and dil
Exactly and to get those a beefed up Horizon or a faction miner is key.
For my server. A NAP is a Non Aggression Pact. That just means they dont attack. If they are allied or choose to participate in the war is a tottaly different matter
@midnight ivy I've been called a lot of things but never a teacher ... no, a commercial consultant software architect/developer
Where is the info on the upcoming pvp event?
What upcoming pvp event?
The game has been leading up to one since the Cosmic Carnage Ended. You're now getting an announcement in game that "there is danger coming" - and there's a push notification that "your Alliance is in trouble!" <-- to hurry up and get your research up in the Current event... all leading up to a PvP Event that, presumably, will commence in 5days 15hrs (after Alliance Power Progression Event ends).
I said I had an odd pop up message about a pvp event
@elfin meteor gotcha
I donāt follow Fartasia
you mentioned that you saw pvp announced, and ss above shows it is next week
I've bad feeling about this š
Think they whanna kill the game fast. with only 500 peeple left on my server only 250 activly playing and only 10 ruling the galaxy. in the end of this month we would be happy if there still 200 peeple playing the game here.
@frosty fjord where are you getting these server and activity numbers from?
Server merge events?
Sorry to break conversation. What server are you on? And is this global discord channel? (i have 2 of them for this game. Don't know why)
@serene pebble This is the official discord server run by the people who make the game
@frosty fjord You must be on a very old server⦠Or unlucky⦠My server has thousands of people active
@abstract gate thanks. I will delete other1.
My server launched on December 6th
Is there a way tell what server you are on. I started 4 days after official launch and it felt like a brand new server.
You can compare notes of who the top alliances are on your servers to see whether they are the same server. I donāt know whether anyone besides Scopley has made a list of all the servers
The āwelcome bannerā says there is a PVP event starting on the 10th.
@bleak tree thats true. Better prepair yourself! š
Iām shielding for it.
dont blame you @supple orbit it is my opinion that PVP events should be opt in events. This is a recipe for downfall with this game. Be interesting to see how it plays out. have they considered small new alliances trying to grow? New players to the Game? Players who play for the fact that it is a Trek game and are not interested in the PVP aspect?
I see the possibility of an early mass exodus of players from the game.
@wary silo It's been a mass exodus since Nov 1 ...
True, for those who dont like the PVP grieving\pirate roles that many of the large Alliances have taken on in this game. @quick sand I can handle the occasional grieving of miners and the changes in December helped a tiny bit. But it doesn't help with the 3x or greater power grievers that run around
@wary silo It' not the PVP event that has caused it ... This is a PVP game ... if you think differently then you're playing the wrong game.
You have 4 days to organise how the event happens amongst your alliances on your sever...
@quick sand I didnt say it was the event. Your are correct this game has PVP in it. However the implimentation of the PVP aspect has been poor. That PVP implimentation in the game is in what my optinion has caused the Exodus, yes sure there are bugs, lack of missions and other aspects that dont help (IE bad customer support). When players are given a story progression, mission growth up to LVL 15 then tossed into a grosely unbalanced PVP experience after that, to me it would be a nail in the coffin for many Trekkers.
So was there any info on the upcoming event is it speculation?
There was a push notification the last 2 days and it's advertised on the landing splash page about the current event, so we know its definitely happenings, any discussion about what format it will take is pure speculation
Pvp is ok,but c'mon let's be realistic the whale sharks are gonna eat everything
idk about you guys, but im going to start shitting on everyone that has a jelly on my server just because I have the right crew combo with a Talla... Knowledge is everything boyz n girls
@wicked spire, plz share
what power level is your talla? because most of the jellies on my server have now scaled way beyond what i can do with it, sure the slacker jellys i eat but
i can get it up to about 28k
The grind is ass but almost worth it
Bring back Jellyfish event for those of us who joined game after event
Djgeno they will after the pvp event mostlikely.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522285437008740382/531694330822524928/unknown.png
Just focus on your talla boys
I will answer questions individually, we're still at war on our server and some dudes are on here
thx for the input..
is using Uhura as captain better than running Cadet Kirk? when I move crew around having kirk as captain with Spock and Uhura supporting I get the best # but know that that can be deceiving ...
I think the power works but traits dont
It effects the other ship
Give u an advantage u cant see till u pvp and read the logs.
Read each officer and comprehend. Note some officers like miners are bugged and do not work.
thanks @karmic pagoda I know some of the perks are bugged... especially increased dil and trit from specific captain... but I can see how a 10% reduction in damage can be benefitial
being selective because right now the game is steering me to Federation however I am not sure I want to go that route... š
I love romulan space but I have kill on sight status cuz I picked Klingon. Klingon space sux cuz the (35) system is set up with a g2 13,000 node
G2 is useless to me
what cap has incresed dil and trit?
@karmic pagoda surely, SURELY that is a bug. that's ridiculous. @abstract gate is this a known bug?
@wicked spire you sure about that?
Oh look at me, i have colorful officers... im so much better than you... thanks for the input @rocky sequoia
Whaa I don't have faction recruits yet Whaa. Whatever mages you feel special about your mediocre talla @wicked spire
Lmao ur so lucky you're not on my server for me to embarrass you with your lack of in game knowledge
Good talk tho!
@wicked spire your talla is level 15 ! Haha no wonder why you kill the jelly because the jelly has a low level ! That has nothing to do with the officiers !
Lol, put the tape measures away and be nice! Not all of us have been playing the same amount of time...
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LMAOOO "your talla is level 15" thanks for proving my point bro @abstract gate
@rocky sequoia says the guy who just set McCoy as Captain...
Queue Klingon Raider music... š
you guys are missing the point... i'm done
love to know how much you all spent on the game tho, i'm curious
About 400
@karmic pagoda accuracy on a horizon is pretty much useless.
guys do i need to spend ship xp on current event (for captain cards) at lvl 9 or wait for smth like 'endgame' ?
What is the next event coming? Parameters, rules, and goals?
January 10th, PvP
Goals? Kill. The rest is unknown to me.
@abstract gate just beefing it up to break hearts and dreams.
Can someone advise on this current weekly alliance event: how the point system is figured out? I get 75k of ship xp and I make 1,125m points. I upgrade a round from level 24 to operations 26 and I get maybe 500k points
Cost difference maybe 300�
@abstract gate any opinion?
@abstract gate Ops boost will be a % increase to a base stat that is already subject to % increases... making it harder to guarantee. I think the ships are a safer bet - those numbers are right. But (and sorry to my alliance) personally I focus more on what I feel I need to improve my own situation.
Yep but whatās the point for scopely doing it this way (and whats the point for anyone...)
Funny to upgrade all those * and 2* ships, maybe some 3* ship meanwhile. And win the event šŖš»
Oh
I do think upgrading ships should be part of this event
Power is power
Where can I find information about what the next weekly event is going to be?
next week meaning tomorrow?
yea. sorry
It is announced on the current week's pop up message when you start te game
that's all the info we have (and get probably, til start)
Gotcha. Thanks.
@bitter halo Always fun to run into you here. What server you playing on?
SC/OO/USMC, it's one of the more recent servers.
Ah, you are on my original server. I had to start over to connect with a friend.
Seeing a paywall in the not-so-distant future but still enjoying the game for now.
The EVE-esque squabbles between alliances and coalitions are salt_bae.gif
Lol, yeah absolutely. My current server is losing their minds over a recent merger of alliances. The way they are talking, you'd think we enslaved everyone and limited them to an hour a day of play time.
@abstract gate so how do you earn points?
spend ship xp š¤
@vital laurel why didn't you?
I didn't realize it said prep event! My bad
Folks, looking at the prep daily Iām concerned this event will kill mu server. Only the whales and high-level pirates will be left, others will just probably leave the game allrogether
Has it been thought out?
Just deploy base shields, there's even a pre-event for a 3-day one.
Yeah, but nit everyone has them stockpiled and even less can/will login regularly to renew
Itās going to drive a LOT of people away
Who were already on the fence due to the bugs and the nagging p2w or grind
I personally will just stay shielded
@light jolt We gotta save something to do in February.
But I donāt want to be left on a half empty server
So the only way to do the prepare for pvp event is to spend ship exp. A currency that is very limited. And that you can't spend if you've been playing the game and have your ships at level cap. SeemsGood
well you don't get anything interesting as a reward anyway. Who needs more peace shields?
That's true lol
probably not
this is kinda a dumb event
Hey everyone!
The Continuum is most pleased with this event
Seems like fun, I know a lot of people on our server are antsy for a war. I'm thinking it's going to help some of the small fish understand their place in the galaxy.
I agree
Does anyone have any information about the event? Apart from being a pvp event? Any changes for these three days?
@abstract gate how are points calculated for Pvp event. i.e are they based on power destroyed or on the level of player hit?
@abstract gate I think it will be same as for the hostile hunting event - player level
the rest of the conditions are the same
100%
Why canāt Scopely give a bit more information sooner and in other channels too? If you only follow Star Trek Fleet Command on Twitter you would have no idea about this event
great- no one at my level to hit as they are in CF alliances lol
Great another event that is capped by level, have you no one with a brain that understands capping off lower level players just destroys any semblance of competition. You make the higher levels even stronger and limit the lower levels progression.
These events are pure trash. Why should anyone under level 24 try since they are capped off from grinding out a higher score.
@abstract gate why would I need a Peace shield if this PVP event clearly is focused on attacking ships?
My constructive review of the Event:
- If your going to suggest Peace Shields they should protect your ship outside the base (all other rules for peace shields come into play)
- Survey ships should have been excluded, this would allow for non-participants in the event to continue to play the next two days. Leave the battle to the Interceptors, Battleships & Explorers
- Level Attacked should impact trophies not the player level, this would encourage more equal battles instead of bottom feeding
+1 on post 3
@abstract gate for the new Event it would be better to count only kill if the opponent hast same or higher Level
Agreed they should exclude survey ships. Just gonna stop people from mining for however long the event is.
Why that? Itās actually great.
What's great?
See nothing great about it
Well you can just go with a friend and kill each other survey to get the job done
But yeah the event is stupid
Badluck if your friends are in the same alliance
Thatās why itās good to be friendly even with enemy alliance š
Lol I don't even think I could be bothered
But with this event you got a reason to be š
Anyway we are not sure yet how it will work
Me neither
Even if I could be bothered to game the system, I'm not a high enough level to make much of a difference
Outside the top 3 the prizes tend to be pretty meh anyways
I think it will work like the hostile event one week ago
So the individual rewards is still quite good
I grinded a crap load for that event, cant even remember what the awards were
The 56 uncommon ore I got and parsteel was the real rewards for me.
Anyway look if fortunate give points for that event. It cost nothing to repair and only 3 minutes to repair too. It could be a solution to make thing easier.
Thats fine, if ur level 20+ u can hit loads of lower level players without making a dent on your shields because of the huge power difference, however until lvl 20 the power gap is minimal, ill spend more time repairing..
Actually itās not so great depending on what we could hit.
Will be the same pvp scale as normal id imagine
Over 20? Itās hard since there is almost no way to get the necessary materials to upgrade a ship.
Except to pay.
wait til you hit over 30 @runic trail
Haha yeah i will confirm that in a year
some upgrades are in the 60 - 70m range
I m only at a few million for now and I know after 26 itās start to get indecent
Well I am more worried at the 780 r3 uncommon ore than the 80m parsteel
lol
Just a prouf this part of the game is messed
How did you get 24k uncommon ore? Does it actually drop in useful amounts in the refinery at some point?
I'm on founders server so been in game a lot longer
At level 25, I get about 1 uncommon per week. What's your yield at your level?
I get multiples a day
How old is the game?
I'm mining close to 50k raw a day too so I can keep up
I'm here since Beta 1.0 which was last year
then beta 2 and now this iteration
And there is still so many bug with the officers..?
yes - be prepared to wait for bugs to be fixed
Be prepared to wait for months or years?
Decades š¬
I will put my account in my testament then.
Itās OK. If the event breaks gameplay for a few days, Iāll just park my ships at my base and go play something else. Maybe Iāll return to this game; maybe not.
@abstract gate at what level can you refine 3 batches of G3 mats?
I got 3 at lvl 30
Ok cool. Thanks
@runic trail are you planning to die in short notice or do you really think the game will be around for that long.
i really like the event. first players who don't want to participate can use their 3 day shield and avoid pvp altogether on their station. Then I'm lvl 22 and I only get points by attacking lvl 20+, so I won't be hitting low level players
No you will have to hit 22 and above
If your 22 you have to hit 22 and above
This event is soooooo bad, the rewards are useless
So.... there are only a few players of this level on my server.. guess i dont compete? š¬
Yes the event sucks
K, can just chill i guess
The officers are useless, our higher level players have no one to hit and their "rewards" are stuff they never use anymore
Whoever thought of the idea for the event should be dropped off a cliff !
The level idea does prevent mass murder from higher level players, but the rewards just make it a waste of time
Whatās a lev 24+ player going to do with G2 rewards honestly? Useless...
Rewards are lame, seriously, that's it
A lvl 19 get 2* common as top prize
Terrible
@tiny flame you get 1 point for the alliance event per player ship killed, murder everyone below you will get tons of points for your alliance.
event is already stupid. People are dropping alliance, using tier one ships and just getting shit ton of kills
then rejoining alliance
@abstract gate The rules for the solo event cut off most of the community from each other, 80% of my alliance on my server are above 20, we have noone to attack.
@@abstract gate WTF why hold a PVP overnight for just a small amount of time and when ppl have to work. Seriously guys some ppl might want participate but as usual you effed them over againš” š”
The 6H events between 10PM 10AM need to be either merged or removed from the game, what a mess
Great event, thank you for showing me to stop wasting time on a very badly designed game
So
We have a solo event poorly designed that offers high lvl players rewards they dont need.
And we have an alliance event that as a result is won by whoever murders as many low lvl player ships as possable.
And they think a substantial chunk of the playerbase wont quit because of this event.
Yup. Like people needed an excuse to kill us low level miners....
@abstract gate I mean, so many players were already frustrated with having their miners killed due to fighting over limited resources. But you just told the highest lvl players in the game to murder every single one of those lower level players. Did noone think about that AT ALL?
CypherNil of course the did, they need to make all those PTW players feel superior
And for the record I'm one of those high level players you've just incentivise to murder every low lvl miner on my server, I dont want to be the one ruining these players day.
@ember tree I think you should look at the event details. Players can only hit three levels below their level to get points in this event.
@wind bluff at the cost of the game?? You dont make money by burning the majority of the community, the game will die
@ornate veldt no. We can still contribute a single point for any single pvp win
So thatās what I am doing. Killing all lowbies. This event will be the biggest reason why new entrants to this game will quit indefinitely
This is so poorly designed. Itās like Scopely wants its own game to die
How much fun are the paying players going to have spending 30-50 min trying to find people to attack on a massive map when most of the playerbase quits.
Its an MMO envirnment.. Think about it
For the alliance event yes. I am talking about the individual event. The individual player events, you can only hit three levels below you to get points. I don't know how things are run in your sector, but in mine you protect your miners and it is an all out war on ships and miners all the time.
@ornate veldt Its not 3 levels below you its whatever bracket you fit into on the event points table
I'm lvl 20, I can only score points off of following
LVL:Points
20: 1
21: 1
22: 2
23: 3
24: 4
They killed the game!!! LOL
I can't believe it Lol
Yea, thats your bracket, you'd have the same rules if you were lvl 24 or lvl 28 @ornate veldt
Its not a range, its a bracket
All the systems are empty no one is going to do anything for 2 days lol