🏆-event-chat

[abstract gate]

All day grinds for same rewards you used to get but they want your money, and fail to see you have to go to work to pay them...lol

[crystal stream]

3 different daily grinds for different events is not acceptable

[fierce flower]

IMS just got reset

[whole snow]

And its functioning as sms

[proud rivet]

why reset the IMS ? i was holding on by a thread but this makes me want to wash my hands of this whole arc .

[sonic mica]

hope the ims reset is a visual glitch

[abstract gate]

I hope they auto complete it 🤣

[halcyon cloak]

Works as SMS for me now …

[noble viper]

Yeah was gonna say i thought something had happened ... IMS now not working ... Ive done both sms and the IMS is at 39 points 🧐

[shell jewel]

Scopely says working as intended, bend over

[hardy totem]

Scopely, can I get a couple of hours off later to watch the new Star Trek please?

[north prawn]

The IMS only counts individual player kills now, not the entire server.

[noble viper]

Ive done a lot more than 39 kills mate

that is what our IMS is at

[hardy totem]

It only counts kills in the last 23 minutes for me.

[winter prism]

<@&509690795536941056> our ims just reset loosing 2 hours worth of work come on scopley

[north prawn]

you've done 39 kills since they reset everyone and messed up the IMS.

[noble viper]

well they have royally screwed this up within 2 hours .... well done scopley

[quartz saffron]

Wow

This arc gets worse and worse

And look folks, we have 6 more months of this dumpster fire

[pale rain]

Same. Most the way there now. Just kill time now. Ops 66 here. As well as a couple ops 68 and a few more 63+ just from my old alliamce

[hardy totem]

Since last week they've bought a new Prime Screwing Things Up.

[fiery fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-incompetence-gif-12280385594835876792

[fiery fulcrum]

They bought that one in May. Never got a refund for it. 🤣

[winter prism]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-apartmen-music-band-gif-3488195237514547638

[upbeat swallow]

all that grind for 200 directives.... BS...

[pale rain]

4 days pulls last time I only got directives once. No way I'm doin that again

[tulip jackal]

Yeah, feels almost as bad as last time so far. Grinding all day for mediocre rewards, no thanks.

[harsh folio]

hey at least you got directives
Certainly not guaranteed

[green crescent]

How can we do the armada event if this **** does not give us any direcfives?

[fiery fulcrum]

Scopely - Working as intended

https://tenor.com/view/plan-planned-meant-gif-22294101

[noble oar]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[winged agate]

75% chance per pull of getting rare directives from teh targ tags.... I've now done a total of 5 TRIPLE pulls... gotten 100 rare directives (between last week and this week obviously) please fix your math. <@&509690795536941056>

[slender escarp]

Will remind people, Scopely algorithm on gambling mechanics wouldn’t pass Nevada gaming commission standards.

[fiery fulcrum]

Maybe they coded 0.75 as 0.075. Oops.
Joking aside (funny if I got it right) the RNG code in this game is pretty trashy and streaky. Having 99% success away team missions fail (more than one) is suspect.

[ember loom]

Wow, that's 14 misses, so about 1 in 260 million or so chance. Could be that the probabilities written for the chest pulls are not the same as what's programmed in. Game companies have cheated like this before.

[tribal elbow]

Math might be fine, its the design that is bad. Even if it's low odds of getting unlucky it will happen to some players and will just feel bad for no real reason.

What's the upside? I feel relief I didn't get unlucky pulls?

[slender escarp]

The big problem with Scopely’s odds on the gambling/chance stuff is each one is a new isolated instance, so there is no trend for it to reference back to. Actually drops positive odds significantly over time when done that way.

[hardy geyser]

mathematically getting 14 times in a row the 25% chance has a probability of 3e-9 (so thats 0.0000003%) when each draw is independend on the others

thats 1 in 260million

[hard stream]

My Power Creep daily hasn’t worked yesterday or today. Is someone looking into this issue?? I can’t be the only one with this issue. On iOS handheld.

[thick scroll]

Yall gotta be kidding with the IMS event, 9016 dropship counting 1 by 1😵‍💫

[formal spire]

@cosmic steeple responsible for this arc should be fired by now

[thick scroll]

We dont have time to stay on playing 24hr/day for that

[hexed chasm]

What is with the ship upgrade event? I am an ops 67 player who does not buy new specialty ships, which means I don't have the reliant yet, literally built the gs-31 just yesterday, and all others are either maxed completely or practically, some for years now. How am I supposed to complete this event other than spend 60k g6 uncommons on ships for my 70m milestone?

[slender escarp]

You answered yourself.

These events aren’t meant to be fair or fun, they’re meant to punish you for not being willing to buy packs to solve a problem.

Otherwise yesterday mirror shard downgrading would have scored, allowing people who were done with mirror researches a way to still score, for example.

[tulip jackal]

Creating any event that punishes your most loyal customers is a terrible design. Lucky for me I’m ftp and stockpile stuff like specialty ship upgrades.

[unkempt linden]

Day 1 player here been loyal to the game...deleting the game today because of this arc

[hexed chasm]

Yes, but there were many options like CT, FT or artifacts yesterday. Specialty ships are either €100 or wait 3 months. After that big grind. Completely different topics.

[ripe bronze]

Funny thing is you guys are what just realizing this? They're a crooked cheating company. They hate you. It's very obvious

[unkempt linden]

Really..I hadn't noticed..thanks for opening my eyes🤣🤣

[slender escarp]

My server alone there are at least 16 cases with screenshots of people having done triple pulls every opportunity last run and got 0 directives.

[hardy geyser]

me too..... which means in the code the chance to fail is much higher then 25% or their algorithm is just borken.
But it has nothing to do with running each draw as an individual calculation

[undone shuttle]

My first triple pull I received zero directives. To my knowledge I have received at least some every triple pull since. But that it can happen at all seems like a bad design.

[serene forum]

at this rate, i'll unlock stage 2 of IMS in about 1 or 2 years

[velvet phoenix]

Genshin have better chances 😂

[winter prism]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-load-status-progress-gif-7323850

[tulip jackal]

You guys are insane to farm enough for daily triple pulls. You skip eating and sleeping to get that done?

[winter prism]

whats sleep

[tulip jackal]

IMS is your whole server.

[languid kayak]

Right now, the IMS is scoring like an SMS>

[winter prism]

i stopped hitting after it reset first ive hit about 350 hostiles and its showing 62

[unkempt linden]

I miss the wrath of khan arc...it made more sense than this dumpster fire arc...and thats saying something..

[undone shuttle]

It really depends on your ops level. At 60 it’s actually not a lot of extra work past getting the the stage one and two SMS’s done

[winter prism]

i've got a brilliant idea. give me a mining skin for the gs 31 that can kill these hostiles and mine at the same time🤣

[serene forum]

i know that

but only my scoring is showing

[agile jewel]

@cosmic steeple I know you are getting a lot of messages but one thing was not touched in your tweak. The hurak exchange is still way out of kilter. I noted before that level 61 and 62 players only have the same warships as a level 60 player, yet a triple pull from that exchange is 3 million for a level 60 player and almost 90 million for a level 62. Aside from a bit more research available to g6 players, there is nothing that makes my maxed Rotarran that much more powerful than a level 60 to punch up. Please look into this. It is completely not fair to early G6 players as we will not be able to get directives for stage 3.

[serene forum]

i'm 63 and can kill about 1 60's

[undone shuttle]

About time

[agile jewel]

Yup, that is what I mean. Unless you get a g6 uncommon leveled up you cant punch up.

[serene forum]

my minerva is t6

[grand vine]

<@&509690795536941056> is ALL event scoring being paused or just Flashpoint events?

the announcement is not clear

[winter prism]

is the sms going to reset as well or just the ims

[agile jewel]

Then I have no hope at all. 😂

[quartz saffron]

Wow

This is horrible

[green crescent]

Me to...

[main spindle]

<@&509690795536941056> They best comp for the 700 directives I spent

[winter prism]

<@&509690795536941056> can i get my hostile cap reset as well🤣

[grand vine]

<@&509690795536941056> this should also get announced in-game as a system message (like you do when the game is going down for maintenance), a lot of people are going to be upset by this and you should err on the side of overcommunication.

[quartz saffron]

But somehow I doubt they will listen

[grand vine]

also I'm still scoring in events. When is the event pause going to happen? That should've been in the announcement.

[quiet tinsel]

So we heard you there's too much grind so how about you do it twice

[grand vine]

I ... is Scopely hiring? You guys need an incident manager and I need a paycheck.

[versed osprey]

soooo.... Player sentiment was on its lowest and now this? its almost laughable 😂

[ripe scroll]

<@&509690795536941056> Considering how poorly received this arc has been, the feedback during and after the Q&A, and the current inability to make events run that apparently worked last week, is there any discussion of pausing future Flashpoints? I ask because this was the approach taken to arenas, and while its not great, ots better than having people spend 4 hours griding toward events just to have them reset.

[winter prism]

and this is only week 2 of 6 months

[graceful yacht]

Is it time for the Eco quote to come out again?

[light elm]

The announcement said progress would be reset, so that means you should stop immediately...

[ripe scroll]

Exactly my point, if its this unstable, 6 months of this will surely kill the game

[night briar]

Don't start your bugged event again and it is annoying us much more. You tried it, accept you failed.

[grand vine]

or I could continue, get SMS points, get the rewards, then have my SMS progress reset so I can get even more rewards

[warm sorrel]

it looks like IMS scoring is paused but XSLB scoring is still happening

[rare verge]

This just goes from bad to worse

[slender escarp]

Or maybe even this one….

[grand vine]

is only the IMS paused? The announcement just said "We will be temporarily pausing events" and was not clear about which events were being paused.

[unkempt linden]

@grand vine Everything is paused and progress deleted

[winter prism]

can we get another Q&A🤣

[graceful yacht]

The “if it wasn’t tested, nothing would work” one. I’ve lost my copy somewhere.

[main spindle]

Can we get another Arc without this BS

[grand vine]

and yet, I'm still scoring in the Flashpoint SMS

[winged agate]

so.... if we completed stage 1 adn 2 of our SMS... is that getting reset? woudl kinda rock as long as I keep the rewards and can do it again, lol

[slender escarp]

There’s just so many to choose from though… plus, check galaxy chat, someone made a gif meme of it that has bewitched my heart,

[ripe scroll]

As much as I hated them, rerun the WOK events at this point

[unkempt linden]

@grand vine They cant even cancel things right🤣

[grand vine]

and getting rewards too

[warm sorrel]

it looks like just the IMS is paused, which makes sense because that is the one being fixed

[cosmic steeple]

Working on that too

[grand vine]

can you also work on making the announcement more clear about which events will have their scoring paused? I know you're just the messenger here but getting clarity on this would be very helpful to the community.

[winged agate]

Lets do keep in mind folks, the FLashpoint overall isnt' the issue.... its the "tweaking on the fly" for goals and the engineering side that are the problem. Flashpoint itself is not bad, nor is the Ferengi nor the ascendant event

[rare verge]

So Hurak stage 3 how we do this with no directives???

[unkempt linden]

@cosmic steeple Hammy we know this isn't your fault like always..but man...this arc is a dumpster fire...Baby Billy says even TEENJUS couldn't save this one

[winged agate]

It's primarily teh Milestones, engineering, and badly coded RNG (still engineering) that are the issues

[hardy jetty]

<@&509690795536941056> So are our kill counts being reset so we don't run into the total kills cap? Some of us have pushed to get over 1,000 dropship kills already.

[grand vine]

hostile kill cap doesn't affect event progression, just xp and loot drops

[rare verge]

I’ve done dropship event 🤷‍♂️

[grand vine]

although I guess with the event being dependent upon loot drops, that is a valid point

[trim robin]

#⭐-official-announcements message
why fix it when all points are gone and we all get compensated anyway?

[rotund bane]

Can we get another lvl 58 system, it's one of the busiest systems on our server.

[vocal rock]

especially when it comes to additive "chances" like triple pulls, I don't trust those at all

for one thign i have known far too many programmers in my lifetime who barely understand basic math and are befuddled by percentages

[quartz saffron]

I understand math is hard

But Scopely's math is impossible

[warm sorrel]

what do you mean, additive "chances"? each should be an independent event, since there is no pity mechanic.

[rare verge]

Scopely math is b*ll

[vocal rock]

I mean 3 boxes that are each supposed to have their own separate chance, added togetehre

but also i wasn't specifically talking only abotu the loot box situation

i REALLY don't trust when you're suppsoed to get a percent chance increase on thigns from multiple sources.. thats the one many many programmers get wrong all the time

[shrewd drum]

Maybe they investigate which event they really paused. 🤡 🤗

[rare osprey]

"event progress made will be lost", does this mean all progress we made before the events get paused or everything during?

[cloud wraith]

For the IMS one is says, so yea to that one at least

[hardy jetty]

Maybe they investigate why every single arc is a failure on launch 🤔

[main spindle]

<@&509690795536941056> just tell the Dev team to scrap flashpoint invasions and be done with it we don't like it

[cloud wraith]

Scopely, running the same events over and over is boring and suks a lot, why can’t you guys figure out how to space these out over a few days, instead of just repeating the same event but for different rewards.

[vocal rock]

they did not specidfy actually, they said "We will be temporarily pausing events so the team can implement a fix to the IMS scoring issue." it could mean all events it could mean jsut the ims irt couldean anything it was not a specific statement. Also the comment about event progress being lost was not clear at all - all event progress, ims event progress, previous event progress, progress made during the downtime?

[slender escarp]

This will end up like arenas and incursions….. mothballed for months with numerous false starts and maybe it’ll actually work 6months from now

[vocal rock]

i'm jsut not doing anythign till they say they're done messing with it

[slender escarp]

Meanwhile, players will be denied the promised rewards regularly, or given such a small trickle as recompense as to be borderline insulting

[main spindle]

Don't forget Star bases LoL

[slender escarp]

Those were never broken, just garbage.

Incursions and arenas actually both were canceled for months at a time

[worn estuary]

@dreamy patio bumping to 2pts a kill is still 4500 kills just to complete stage 1. Still isn't enough.

[cloud wraith]

I would assume since the fix is specifically for the IMS that the progress lost would be for that one event. Just expect the usual comp chest that doesn’t feel like your actually compensated for your time and efforts..

[lone brook]

Why has this been posted about something that started 30 mins ago!?!

[stray arrow]

Anybody know where the Epic Vanguards are located?

[worn estuary]

most are in the bonus systems. not token they added a few systems

[ionic grove]

I am soooo happy that i vave not boought any of the 2 Battle Pass.....

They are being very consistent...,. 1 bad event after the other !!! 🤣🤣🤣
Next event will need a full day all server offline just to implemetmand then 2 days off to fix all the damage !!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❗❗❗

[cloud wraith]

As I understand it, yea need tokens for the new augment space. Never been there yet myself though.

[slender escarp]

Problem is the mission is tied to the ims, the sms and ims events are interrelated, so someone actually trying to help their server is now stuck at an indecision point of do they go ahead with sms 3 and 4 or wait to see if Scopely unbleeps things in some way that separates the relation of the three?

[vocal rock]

I've learned nmot to assume anything from scopely statements espoecially if they are uncler or unspecific

[warm sorrel]

I wouldn't cosider the SMS and IMS all that interrelated, Stage 4 is even different for the two. Someone could be completely done with their SMS and it would have no effect on the IMS, and someone could not participate in their SMS and the IMS wouldn't care

[woeful prairie]

Our IMS just came back up on Server 20.....I know it said in annoucnements that it would reset score, so I knew that. But to see it at zero was still difficult. Spent some time out there a few hours ago working the IMS....not sure Ive got the mojo to restart this one.

[slender escarp]

If you and enough other people don’t use your armada starts and kills for ims 3 your server likely won’t have a shot at reaching ims 4, so yeah, they are absolutely interrelated. It’s designed that way.

[vocal rock]

Except you have no idea, nor do I, how the counting is being done on the back end wrt people still trying to do the sms.. in any case IMS events are back live now

[snow tulip]

@cosmic steeple what about the scoring for stage 2 and 3. Which seem to have their 1st run targets back.

[rare shoal]

@cosmic steeple These do not look like the improvements that I saw few days ago.
Also add in Stage 2 the double scoring again with the improvements

[warm sorrel]

that's like saying latinum rush and the daily mining event are interrelated when they happen to fall on the same day

[rare osprey]

Y'all should have just auto completed the 1st stage of the IMS for everyone instead of ASSuming each server will have the will to start stage 1 from scratch when the night is damn near over already.

[warm sorrel]

that you can do the stage 3 SMS and have no effect on the stage 3 IMS indicates there is no interrelation at all

[main spindle]

@cosmic steeple here's the problem I already did stages 1 and 2 and got through most of stage 3 I don't wanna do it again. So how we going to fix this for people who don't want to grind a whole bunch more after already doing it

[calm elbow]

Can not for the life of me kill any silent enemys.... todays ferengi event is a bust for me

[paper viper]

My grinding XSLB don’t count points.

[slender escarp]

You really are Scopely’s perfect customer

[paper viper]

Stage 3 is back to 10.1k IE points. All server will not get through that as 1st IMS.

[warm sorrel]

<@&509690795536941056> stage 2 and 3 IMS are back to their old point value

[slender escarp]

If you blow through sms 3 before ims 3 comes around, you likely don’t have armada starts, or wasted armada starts that could help progress ims 3 since that scores off of killed armadas. But, not related or tied to each other AT. ALL.

[undone shuttle]

@cosmic steeple When the IMS came back it is using the milestones from last week before they were lowered. This might be a display issue but the scoring for stage 2 lists 1 point a kill, while the scoring for stage 1 does list 2 points each.

[warm sorrel]

they are related in that they score on the same thing, but that doesn't make them tied together at all, or whatever you meant by interrelated

[slender escarp]

And if the server doesn’t get through ims 3 you can’t get to ims 4 for the mission, again. But nope, not tied to each other in any way

[warm sorrel]

the Seasonal Ferengi Exchange: Hurak Offensive event also scores by killing hurak invading entities, is it tied to or interrelated to the Stage 3 IMS/SMS?

[undone shuttle]

Same enemies

[warm sorrel]

sure, but that hardly ties them togther in any meaningful way

[paper viper]

XSLB is counting at Android and is not counting on IOS . That is so frustrating @cosmic steeple

[undone shuttle]

In theory you should wait for stage 3 of the server IMS and just do it all at once, assuming this mess ever starts working

[lost storm]

The comp should be just auto completing stages 1 and 2 if we're going to start over

[warm sorrel]

correct, I was initially responding to someone commenting on the interrelatedness of the IMS and SMS stages, while doing them at the same time is ideal it isn't by any means necessary

[cosmic steeple]

Yup. Raising this!

[next stone]

From a technical point of view, you may be right, as they don't depend on each other. But in my opinion there's a difference between two events that just get a bit harder to complete if you do them seperately, or stage 3 ims/sms which are literally impossible to complete seperately, unless you spend a crazy amount of $$$ on packs.

[deft willow]

Maintenance was supposed to make this invasion better. Instead, my sms is on 3 but the IMS starts back at 0. Ridiculous.

[warm sorrel]

that's more about the unrealistic stage 3 ims goals than any tying together of events, its entirely possible to do all four stages of the SMS before stage 1 of the IMS is complete. Certainly not the best way to do it, but possible

[paper viper]

Update: in the new systems XSLB don’t count. In old original systems XSLB points counts

[fiery fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/spock-dazzling-display-logic-star-trek-gif-16343803

[left sandal]

you know for at least a over month I've been unable able to get on g5 gas from events which I'm sure scopely has rig I can get crystal and ore kiss my u know what ble to get on g5 gas from events which I'm sure scopely has rig I can get crystal and ore kiss my u know what

Durning events I was collecting gas for ship then u stopped out g5 gas in reward's u ain't getting money from me crooks

I edited the words I would like to say

[snow crater]

Considering there's events that need you to do the Hurak armada/entities why is it you don't get a guaranteed pull of directives rather than leaving it to chance to whether you get any directives or not.

Not cool Scopely, not cool <@&509690795536941056>

[slender escarp]

Just move on, this is the type of person who will argue eating and 💩ing are not related things.

[warm sorrel]

maybe address my argument instead of just insulting me

[neat plover]

There's supposed to be another flashpoint event/store next weekend as well?

[warm sorrel]

yes

[atomic stream]

<@&509690795536941056> at 23.53k points needed to complete stage three of the ims , roughly how many vanguard and honorguard are we expected to kill per player at 1 and 4 points to complete?

13.53K*

[dry flicker]

ops64: i complete my hostile grind for stage 1 and 2 and barely was able to pull one chest...so to your question: 1??

[spice brook]

If these devs worked at any other company, they’d all have been fired.

[cold horizon]

You mean, replaced by another AI?

[dry flicker]

as a ex-dev i can tell you, they fire the QE first!

[night marsh]

Also they made leg 2 of the ims higher score again. I was sure that they said they were lowering it because it was too high to begin. With. So they paused the ims and erased the leg one scoring to just unkeep their promise is what it looks like

[cold horizon]

Scopely doesnt have such employees

[night marsh]

Scopely is basically trying to extort money from us to complete these and pretty much any events lately. My question is what are you players going to do about that

I already did what im going to do.

[cosmic steeple]

We'll be adjusting the scoring to the updated version.

[stray arrow]

Ty

[solid badger]

With the reset turn the zapper on fir the junker and/or cude. Also up the daily kill limit

[atomic stream]

👍🙂

[woeful prairie]

But will our work be erased again like the first reset?

[night marsh]

Probably.. they having fun making the player base mad today

[cold horizon]

<@&509690795536941056>
I hope scopely is aware multiple changes to a running event, tends to make players very, very agry, especially when grinds are involved.
No compensation chest will really compensate for that

[pine flint]

Free epic officer unlock of our choosing would sate me

[lilac musk]

The scoring is only half the problem. The chests are cost prohibitive to grind for a pull. Those costs for a chance at directives is insanity

[stable escarp]

Is anyone really surprised? They have rarely gotten anything right in seven years.

[manic shell]

6 hours too late

[atomic stream]

Pulling chest isn’t a issue for me, it’s the starts gained to starts needed to make a meaningful contribution

[versed osprey]

its just insane, and then the 10% of not getting directives lol

[lilac musk]

If you are killing the level of hostile Scopely intends you to sure. But there are so many people who aren’t so the number of people who aren’t pulling those chests and contributing to the IMS is low

[atomic stream]

Although the amount needed for those chest above ops 61 is a bit crazy. I’m only ops 58 and the cost is way way less

[unkempt linden]

@cosmic steeple this game needs TEENJUS

[pastel belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-whole-things-a-mess-daniel-ibbertson-dj-slope-slopes-game-room-its-a-disaster-gif-10378650197603483436

[sonic mica]

i completed stages 1 and 2 of the sms before the IMS reset occured. looks like it is necessary to score again on the IMS to receive points for the IMS milestones

[pale rain]

Good thing I ain't doin it then

[sonic mica]

just need 1 point on IMS to get milestone rewards.

[pale rain]

Still not worth it imo

[unkempt linden]

Insanity may be defined as “doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

[ripe bronze]

Well ever try banging a nail? Sometimes you hit yr hand. Sometimes you don't. That's a dumb definition it really is

doing the same thing over and hoping for different results is called work. Ty

[keen cove]

Who was that "smart" person who designed this for G3? @cosmic steeple <@&509690795536941056> it's total joke not say the less, worst event design I've seen in decades of playing games.

#BadGameDesign

[unkempt linden]

@ripe bronze Brother point on the doll where they hurt you

@ripe bronze Also calling Albert Einstein dumb really shows a lot about you.

[ripe bronze]

Go bang a nail. Prove me wrong

After you miss 3 times what do u do?

[subtle raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-3-vass-montenegro-did-i-ever-tell-you-the-definition-of-insanity-insanity-gif-9162815073500878983

[obtuse sundial]

when did the chronicle of the ascendant start? i didnt even know it was a thingy until 7 minutes ago.

[unkempt linden]

@ripe bronze Dude go get your meds right..

[ripe bronze]

Are you now mad because I'm right?

It's ok it happens

[unkempt linden]

@ripe bronze No I am not mad at all I think this whole exchange is hilarious

Its better than this entire arc so far

[ripe bronze]

How about tryimg to take a poop when you're constipated. Over and over. Does that make you insane?

[unkempt linden]

Why would you try and take a poop if you cant? Wouldn't you take something to help you poop if you cant poop?

[tidal viper]

Maybe u can get a prime for it 😉

[unkempt linden]

@tidal viper Prime Pooping Pack

[tidal viper]

One for each faction

[ripe bronze]

How about throwing dice

[muted island]

After the train wreck of the first round Flashpoint, I made the conscious decision to ignore the second round and any subsequent rounds. I will no longer support massive grinds being added over and over again.

[unkempt linden]

@ripe bronze At what? For what? For what purpose? You have to have a purpose to do anything.

[frank vale]

<@&509690795536941056> over 5hrs into this stupid event and hurak vanguard 45s still don't show up. What's up?!? Guess Scopely doesn't want us to complete the event.

[empty crescent]

What a fantastic event! Spend 10s of thousand specialty ship parts you don't have on ships you've already maxed for your level. 👎

[lilac musk]

You are supposed to buy a second copy of the ship and level it again 🤣

[young river]

unless you have a spare cube you were thinking of leveling.... kind of a dead event

[crystal inlet]

Should’ve at least given us the oppritunity to do the research related to the specialty ships.

[gritty plaza]

Everything about this stinks. The mining amount alone is horrendous. All these tasks are made to where you have to stay on your device 24/7. This channel is like therapy. It's nice to see that these last few months have been universally hated by everyone everywhere.

[cosmic steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-smh-shake-my-head-shocked-surprised-gif-5057255

[polar patio]

My second voy didn’t help :/

[young river]

high tier cube or bust

[polar patio]

I’m at least 3-4 months away from another cube tier, no thanks 😄

[young river]

i did the math earlier for all my ships not a chance... 2mil per upgrade and I need 77mil

[polar patio]

I’ll get some points from the trashcan tomorrow (I hope), after that it’s luck

[gritty plaza]

I just realised there is a 2 part of the FP event, 2 of 4. I remember why I stopped at the 1st one last time. Nope. I'm not spending more time grinding, only to not be able to do the 3rd part. It's freeing to know this event can flush itself.

[tulip jackal]

I like how they listened to the plethora of complaints from the last flashpoint, made it marginally less terrible, and kicked off another one. 🤦🏻

[muted island]

They are beyond tone deaf. The y have two basic problems: 1) once they commit their teams to a specific design and arc release, they refuse to adapt and change course; 2) they don't get a wide enough sampling of player input when they're designing their mechanics and arcs, not do they listen to the years and years worth of complaints and suggestions about what the players ACTUALLY want.

[frigid heath]

They are killing their own game

[frank vale]

I say as many of us avoid watching Strange New World and hit Paramount in the wallet instead

[lilac musk]

While the whales spend they don’t care

[spice brook]

Right. The rest of us are just whale fodder.

[stray arrow]

<@&509690795536941056> if F2P can never defeat a single Vanguard, giving more points for defeating them isn't helpful. You have to add a lower level that actually can be beat. Make them worth fewer points, but at least it gives players a chance.

[lilac musk]

And fix the cost of the chests so you don’t get screwed with hours of grinding the loot back to do your next pull when you don’t pull any directives

[sonic mica]

odd that the limits on the flashpoint event store buckets does not reset between events.. is that intentional?

[dreamy patio]

It's being looked into

[abstract imp]

I give up on these damn events. I'm sticking to just the plain Ole battlepass. 🙄

[haughty summit]

Did they change the ims milestone scoring back to original??

[dreamy patio]

yes

[haughty summit]

I see they doubled the points per kill, but that still means no one will get past stage 3.

Everyone is blowing their directives on the damage slb instead of waiting to triple complete the events.

[fierce coral]

yeah, i guess they cant wait a little bit more

is happening in my server too

[haughty summit]

Soooo frustrating

As f2p im trying my hardest to maximize the time grinding hurak to get as much reward as possible

[fierce coral]

yeah me too

i just spend 30 minutes farming just to get my 3rd chest tomorrow

[dreamy fog]

Where are the hurak vanguards at. I dont see them in the location metionrd

[grave estuary]

When is the IMS 2 scoring change coming into effect? Still says 1 pt EA for me.

[dull pagoda]

Since everyone is addicted to this game, could scopely just shut it down now before g7 is released? This is just horrible

[ripe bronze]

Why do people play dice? Umm I can't help you there if you don't know

[celest rover]

Great coding Scopley……once again all epics are gone……

[dreamy patio]

epics are in the 68 system

they split them up

[celest rover]

Let me guess they increased their difficulty….

😉

[loud vector]

and it get better what is if you have the Ships already Done you can`t spend this ship parts

[celest rover]

They did! They increased their difficulty!

So stupid

[lethal glade]

So should you progress with your server or will your points be added to the next server stage event?

[worthy plaza]

well you actually get punished for waiting. the armada refineries are only up for a few day. every day you wait for IMS 3 is another missed refinery pull. thats what happened to me last time i waited, i was left with excess armada currency

[crystal iron]

Im a G6 player.. My question is about the transogen loop.. What the heck am I supposed to do with the 3,4,5* canisters..
minimum 6 new useless currencies... BOO!!

[worthy plaza]

use it to clog up your inventory and create lag. that's basically it

[fierce coral]

yes but it stays open for a few more days, time enough so you can wait and do the armadas for you and the server

[abstract meadow]

Is Scopley going to give us the completion for this? Or add time to complete?

[leaden sierra]

IMS scoring is still not working!!
<@&509690795536941056>

[fierce coral]

are the new armadas still droping survival chests?

[storm gust]

how do we source more directives for the vanguard armadas?

[fallow geyser]

grind or cc

[abstract meadow]

The XSLB isn't scoring at all. Is there something I am missing?

[somber crown]

Did you purchase the $99 'f2p' scoring pack ?

[abstract meadow]

Ah, nope, I have not. Lol

[rare osprey]

Where are the 45 rare hurak vanguard located?

[abstract meadow]

Are they not counting from dropships in Levie Minu? Those are 40-42, so there's no reason they wouldn't.

[abstract meadow]

Levie Minu

Okay, after changing systems, they now count. Levie hostiles are not counting, just so Devs know.

[paper viper]

Don’t grind in new satellite system. They don’t count in XSLB. Only the old systems count

[abstract meadow]

Thank you. I just saw the message in the known issues channel. I missed the announcement.

[paper viper]

It’s here

[rare verge]

So here we are again 🫤 where are the vanguard directives to complet the next stage?

[versed stirrup]

in the $ store 🥹

[rare verge]

@versed stirrup it’s all becoming a bit pointless

[rare verge]

Why give money to a game that’s so badly broken? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[sleek stream]

Im hitting Hurak Dropships in Unas Tol, but not getting any points towards the SMS. Am I doing something wrong or is the event borked?

[dreamy patio]

#🛠-known-issues

[sleek stream]

Ok thanks

[jagged cosmos]

can any mid 40ops players kill the dam vanguards yet? i've given up dying on them

[sleek stream]

Yup, im 43 and can kill the 50s. But u need max fortification from the Titan and the Ceretos

[white stone]

are you crewing for entities?

[tacit walrus]

Did they make the hurak dropships harder to kill?

[thorn portal]

I'm on stage 3 of the SMS (Armadas) but due to the resets, my server is only on stage 1 of the IMS (hostiles)
Do I have to wait until my server gets to stage 3 for me to be able to contribute, or will any points I obtain now somehow be added to the total in advance?

[raw temple]

Anyone know where the 50 epics are located?

[fallow geyser]

Glave Gamma

[opal mantle]

That’s a sneaky little system, I didn’t even see it there

[boreal galleon]

any update on the CD of the event store?

[calm elbow]

Any tips to beating silent enemys getting laughed at them. Need for ferengi battlepass task

[white stone]

if your having a hard time use severus full synergy to get some kills.

[versed stirrup]

Where can we spend those?

[white stone]

you can spend them in the feringi officers tab in events store ONLY after you buy the Feringi Battle pass. so if you win the slbs and dont buy the pass you get to add to your collection of useless currencys.

[versed stirrup]

You mean this?

[white stone]

yes

[thorn portal]

e-pic, e-data, tucker

[foggy knoll]

Just joined one of the thousands of people to quit the game.

[boreal galleon]

if you have phlox use him

[sage bronze]

Is there going to be another installment of the echoes of Mak’Ala event or should we use the remaining memory tokens now?

[indigo crypt]

how to score in this, i am ops 52 🤣 💩

[inland hamlet]

By way you know that scoring issue with new systems, and SMS, ims they fixed.
It works for them.
They just forgot to fix the xslbs, to include the new systems

[cold horizon]

This indeed leads to more and more clutter in the inventory. Something the community is complaining about for years, but also something scopely refuses to do anything about.
T h e y j u s t d o n o t c a r e

[autumn bluff]

What are g6 players to do with all the 5* transogen containers we get? Some of us don't have the power to kill the 60s yet, and the refinery only accepts 6* transogen containers.

[thorn portal]

They become yet more clutter in the inventory

[rough mulch]

I remember looking forward to ARCs for easy fun loot, now it's like hours an hours of grinding for crap expensive BPs an bs prizes

[hollow blaze]

Now , this is a business, they have targets to reach financially, they now are in panic mode , just have a look at the amount of packs are for sale . Unfortunately the Arc is all wrong 😑

[zinc nest]

2 points per dropship what a joke, I have 6k still to do which is 3k of ships. With days left that’s 1k a day. I work 12hour shifts so have no chance of doing it.

[nocturne cave]

eh.. dont think u need to do 3k of ships to get ur 2 sms done .. we all went to stage 2 easily and we didnt farm 3k ships ;P

unless ur very very very low ops and have impossible milestones

cause the SMS goes by npc level and not 2 pts a hostile

[stiff aurora]

return rate for time spent on getting a single turn in is still garbage.

[nocturne cave]

i dont disagree with that. just disagree with someone who got his IMS and SMS mixed up

[stiff aurora]

While the confusion is certainly palpable and appreciable, even with new scoring and reduced mile stones it is still to much.

[versed osprey]

still 3 days left, can only really do conclusions at the end

[crimson oar]

I now have dailies, missions, away teams events to do but also a flash pass and also a ferengi exchange pass……only just discovered that tonight. Then even more difficult to find where to trade things in. I could 😢 cry. It’s too hard, too confusing. I can’t do it. Nor can I kill drop ships 61 + for new refinery. Too hard. Useless 5* canisters I have nowhere to refine. I have millions

Tasks above are scattered through different tab access and have to be searched for that not missed anything

[stiff aurora]

Given the sourcing for stage 3 is still Scopely RNG and not guaranteed better rates...I don't hold out any hope for a sing server finishing.

[crimson oar]

I’ve done relentless grinding for days and can’t have enough or not strong enough to trade in anything in refineries or event stores

[manic lion]

Don't bother with most of it and sit back and pick and choose what you find fun to do instead.

[crimson oar]

Can’t get dust, tokens, directives. Nothing about it is fun. Grind to complete a task and still not achieved anything real

[manic lion]

Leave it alone and do something else that is, I haven't even bothered doing none of this arc and barely do something in the augment stuff from last arc

[crimson oar]

I religiously watched videos. No use if you can’t actually achieve an outcome and spend all day achieving stuff all. Reach a milestone to find you can’t do the next one. ☝️. Fed up. Give up. This is not fun.

Eagles… yes looking for another game.

[rare verge]

So last time we had lvl 63 rare hurak vanguards now they have been switched with epics so I can hit 66 and win so have to drop to lvl 60 which means less points 😡🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

I can’t hi 66 and win not even close

[dreamy patio]

63 rares are in orkan

[rare verge]

Thought there was an issue with the new satellite systems?

[dreamy patio]

for the hostiles, not the armadas

[rare verge]

Ahhh ok thanks for that 👍👍👊👊

[spiral zodiac]

How many folks are actually bothering with the Hurak set of challenges at all ? given the mining rate, even with improvements, in hostile systems I gave up on that one, and given the abysmal exchange rate for the chests that contain the directives to even be able to do the vanguard/honourguard they were just non-starters for our whole alliance honestly

[pastel belfry]

Practically 0 players in my alliance are engaging with this 💩

[near sorrel]

Hi ,can someone tell what is the best crew for Hurak hostile

[deep steeple]

Has there been an announcement regarding event calendar specifically these daily heroics?

[sacred phoenix]

yeah, it's easy to miss, they threw alot at us the last days

[deep steeple]

Thanks

[gritty plaza]

Yeah, exactly here too. I did the first milestone, then I remembered that I didn't do the second one last time because I would never have enough directives to complete the third, and besides, I don't want to do 100 plus more hostiles in a choppy, laggy system where I'm fighting with other players to hit a red. No thanks. The 9 days of constant mining is bad enough. This whole thing is complete 💩, just like the last two months. However, this month is far, far worse than the last two months were, and those were bad.

[gritty plaza]

<@&509690795536941056> look at what you're 🐂💩 events and scheduling managed to accomplish with another player. This 💩 isn't fun. A game shouldn't be stressing people out. A game is supposed to be fun. Spending hours mindlessly hitting hundreds of ships and having to click all over the place to try and figure out all the 💩 you have us do isn't fun either. Most are passing on these 💩 events. This isn't what we asked for or wanted. We want LESS screen time, not more. Once again, the stats don't lie. Most aren't even doing these events. I'm only still here because of my alliance, and we are picking and choosing what to do in this game that's become a huge stress inducer for many. Just do us all a favour and close the game down. Seriously. We all see that this is where it's heading anyway, as more and more are deleting the game, and good for them.

[solid gazelle]

How many servers are bothering with the event at this point? It’s literally impossible to motivate people after all the mistakes

[pastel belfry]

Motivation is at a all time low right now- one desaster after another. Guess,most ppl are sick and tired of it by now.

[solid gazelle]

I just don’t understand how they can be so incompetent

[pastel belfry]

Nobody who plays this game can, I suppose. Just they themselves seem to think, that they are 'killing it' each and every time while they are patting themselves on the back.

[nocturne cave]

careful now.. insulting the devs will result in a mute

[little narwhal]

can we get a house hurok targ tag directive drop increase for these please. still chasing first box

[glossy iron]

I can't kill 4 star drop ships and I can't refine 3 star cannisters!?

[rigid tulip]

Is this still something I could have?

[dreamy patio]

There you go

[rigid tulip]

Thank you!

[dreamy patio]

np

[blazing pagoda]

So the highest level dropships I can take out are lvl58. I need to take out 266 of them, just to get the single pull for a chance of getting enough directives to do 2 rare invading entities. The highest rare invading entity I can take out is lvl50. To complete the ferenghi human offensive event I'd need to complete 32 lvl 50 invading entities. This is really 💩 Scopely- I mean like, this is the worst arc ever!!! This is no fun for any of us

[rigid tulip]

<@&509690795536941056> is there any information why server 86s stage 2 IMS goals are so much lower compared to some others? I'm on server 84 and we need roughly 115k points for stage 2 and 86 needs only 81k?

[woven cypress]

Well, my server is nowhere on the IMS. I talked with some folks on our server discord. People, including some of our whales, have checked out on this arc and aren't bothering. GG, $copely

[deft willow]

<@&509690795536941056> Hurak is not challenging. It’s grind intensive and obnoxious. Yet we feel obligated to participate because “for the server”.

I don’t know how the difficulty has changed since last week. But this is absolutely ridiculous.

Please tell the developers to stop intensifying the grind. It’s boring.

[nocturne cave]

we gave them that feedback for years.. that grind intensive is not fun and engaging at all..

yet we got augment and this

[inland hamlet]

Ims has been written off , SMS, different matters
Xslbs, still broken, new systems still don't score, so pretty pointless,
Hit to get enough to pull directives, if have enough directives complete SMS 3.

The real trick they missed like all stage ims, not new idea , the hirogen events were same, but they didn't open the SMS, till the preceding ims were done, IE. Can't do armadas till server finished hostiles,

[fiery fulcrum]

Challenging are Krenim solo armadas. Those to this day are “balanced to player ops”. These hostiles/entities are just cruel. More cruel than the WOK ones that I still can’t go hit “ops appropriate”.

[nova fox]

Can someone tell me the odds of this happening? Triple chest pull with no directives.

[tacit haven]

@cosmic steeple Chain of Command SLB just started. How on earth am I supposed to spend G6 FKR solo armadas as ops 42? Does this mean that my SLB bracket now goes that high? If so, what's the point of even trying to do the SLB?

[dreamy patio]

You can ignore the scoring that doesn't apply to you

The scorecard is the same for everyone

[tacit haven]

Well it needs to be clearly explained to player that this is the case, because it hasn't been. Simple communication about things like this would help us players not feel demoralized when we read scoring text.

[rocky briar]

Does anyone know what the insignia for warehouse officers are?

[dreamy patio]

officer depot tokens

[desert laurel]

Officer Depot Tokens are the currency used in some of the event store exchanges right now.

[dreamy patio]

the ones you use here

[warm sorrel]

as someone who finished the chronicles of ascendant SMS for today and is currently leading their SLB, the scoring for this one is terrible. Only Khan/Lorca/Sloan SP? And only SP, nothing for ranks or levels? How is that a Fleet Commander upgrade event? And don't get me started on giving points for using flashpoint directives, its scummy enough the two other events trying to get people to use their directives early.

[nocturne cave]

its one ppl can spend for ;p

[fiery fulcrum]

And the points given are trash for using Hurak directives given it takes 8 hours of grind and pure RNG luck to source

[green crescent]

3 pulling in line what dont containts event armada directives. That cant be...

[nocturne cave]

a bit outrageous

[warm sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

g4 has march of progress back!!!

[rocky briar]

Thanks 😸😺😃😃

[smoky cosmos]

So scamely tell me how to do this if there is no sourcing. Ohhh the 300 directives we get.... come on make of you mind and give us directives...

This arc sucks

[ripe bronze]

Armadas are not respawning

God you guys are terrible at what you do

[smoky cosmos]

Look out the moral police will bann you... they do not tolerate any criticism on scamely

[hardy jetty]

<@&509690795536941056> Has there been any sort of calendar or list of Ferengi Daily events? It's rather impossible strategizing for a "strategy" game when you have no way of planning ahead.

[smoky cosmos]

I can't still open a single chest.. this will be my first of the whole arc this also sucks

86 mil tell me how to do this????? Ops 62 im but impossible to shoot the 60 yeah 4 of them then my rotarran sent home .. this is pathetic

[polar patio]

by having a strong g5e and shooting 62+

[smoky cosmos]

Got an epic g5 but not maxed. As im f2p rottaran is 2.b bil strong

[polar patio]

and you're 62? that's too early in the current game state

[smoky cosmos]

Yeah scamely want us to progress but gave a terrible arc with terrible events. So that's why I can only shoot 58

[polar patio]

you can only shoot 58s because your ship/crew is too weak. The events are too hard in terms of points needed, yes. But shooting higher is kind of your responsibility.

[polar patio]

yeah that crew makes no sense vs hurak

[smoky cosmos]

What crew then?

And below

[upbeat swallow]

janeway, seven and demarco works well

[polar patio]

depends on what you have

[polar patio]

no

[polar patio]

t5 torres? what FT?

[smoky cosmos]

What is your crew then?

[polar patio]

my crew won't necessarily work for you, but i use snw pike, sam kirk, harrison with all 4 voy officers and jaochim below

but i get 100% crit chance from research, FCs and metreon

it also has to be a round one kill

pike harrison edata is something that could work, snw james kirk, pelia, sam kirk...

[serene forum]

@cosmic steeple this is bull horsy 💩 .

[polar patio]

yeah that could work. maybe chapel instead of neelix, you'd have to try that for yourself

[desert laurel]

Hugh's wasting a slot if you can reach 100% crit chance. If you can't, then it's something to work on.

[cosmic steeple]

Good point. Will ask.

[shrewd knot]

this is what discourages me from upgrading ops level. it just seems to get worse and worse. <@&509690795536941056> the exponential milestone increases per ops levels is a deterrent from listening to the "raise your level" constant mantra. stop making it harder the further you go up. just a suggestion

[desert laurel]

Not really a fan of this kind of crewing on a rot though, the entD has a better round 1.

[smoky cosmos]

Worst 1 ship i can kill

On a 60

[polar patio]

as i said, that works for me. The important thing is killing them in round one

[solar abyss]

Gorn ticket event isn't scoring unless i use the Gorn ship. Using Cube to hit bigger ones isn't scoring. Anyone else?

[desert laurel]

An unusual report since this event's run so many times before.

What system were you in that didn't score?

[solar abyss]

I tried Jaicoo and Biba

[desert laurel]

The gorn that work should be in this brown nebula:

[solar abyss]

Yeah it seems the ones called Pteran or Macronyx or Acrocanth are scoring. The ones just called Gorn Hunter, are not.

[stray root]

Hello, Question on todays event and scoring….for the top 2 items…..do these have to be FKR armadas, any groups armadas ? ……..tried Borg Rare Solo armada and did not score points….

[desert laurel]

Anything that uses those specific directives (FKR, pirates, cardassians, etc.)

[inland hamlet]

Any idea when they gonna link new systems, to xslb and other specific events,

Ie. Xslb hostile, and xslb damage to armadas,

[latent fog]

Why does it say they're obtained at the transogen refinery? That's a lie. The refinery doesn't know

[dreamy patio]

you get one every 5 levels of the building and then a once a week claim at 45

[latent fog]

Scopely, being scopely as always.💩 🤮

[solid gazelle]

I did cardys

[paper venture]

So how heck do you get flashpoint directives and is that ops 40 and above? To much stuff going on to keep it all straight.

[dark karma]

Flashpoint event is a total joke.... to obtain some of missions defeat rare and epic.... yet my ships can only scratch the paintwork on these...... guess its pointless to even bother

[paper venture]

So probably above my ops anyways

[tiny mica]

The entire arc is a joke.

[chrome gorge]

Ok, so rebalancing the scoring to make it smoother for part 2 and 3 of the event means leave it the same as before. Should be 2 points for each hostile in part 2, but no......you left it at 1. At this rate, noone is gonna finish again and you will have accomplished what you always do......complete disregard for your loyal patron. Bravo Scopley. You help us all learn each and every day how little you care about your job or any of us. Have a terrible day.

[dark karma]

scopley only interested in £££££$$$$$$$

[chrome gorge]

I could understand if they started low and then adjusted, but they went impossible and then lied about changing it.......

And no scotty this time.....stupid ferengi coins

[unkempt linden]

I refuse to do this arc...for mental health reasons

[naive meteor]

Brown nebula 🤣
I see a yellow gas Cloud ☁️

[naive meteor]

As far as I know, they still can't put the real system name's down

[tidal viper]

They did change it to 2 points a kill it's just that stage 2 is 4× the points to finish then stage 1

[shadow bay]

All I got to say is someone from scopley better get fired over this bs

Worst event in the history of this game I’d rather buy a vault of lat

[tardy nebula]

#🛠-known-issues message Are new system epic FLASH armadas working??

[chrome gorge]

Ours still says 1 point when you tap the bottom scoring tab

Its 2 points for 1st stage and 1 point for second stage on server 44

[gloomy hazel]

Yep, stage 2 of the IMS is pretty much impossible to complete again. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Maybe they will finally get it right on the 3rd attempt.

[shadow bay]

Like I said someone needs to be fired

[tardy nebula]

Even more cause most pleople finished 1~2 stages on solo and are doing their stage 3. F stage 3.

[hallow ember]

Yeah, but at this point that's like the whole dev team but the intern who they don't listen to that says they should stop fielding junk. But maybe that's the way to go since then they can't rush more content out until they actually hire people.

[shadow bay]

It’s now 2025 and they still doing the same

[warm sorrel]

the scoring tab wasn't updated, but the scoring updates when you kill things have all been even for me, so the 2 per is probably active (same thing happened last week)

[chrome gorge]

Ok. Still feels off. Grinding our tails off for little gain. We haven't even hit the first milestone

[warm sorrel]

between fatigue from the first week and the scoring mishaps yesterday, I think there's just a lot of people that aren't participating. Comparing the XSLB to what I remember of the SLB from the first week, the scores are lower across the board

I'm in the lead by a good margin on my XSLB with under 30k points, when I recall multiple people over 40k at this time last week

[unkempt linden]

I miss the good ole days of the wrath of khan arc🤣

[heady mica]

114k for ims stage2? Ouch

[sage hollow]

well this event sucks. these armadas... i cant really destroy

the hostiles arent an issue

[exotic glade]

Stage 2 has changed between yesterday launch and today... Stage 3 too but nothing about it 🤔

[warm sorrel]

#⭐-official-announcements message when they fixed the error with stage 1 they accidentally reverted the milestones of stage 2 and 3, so they changed the scoring of those two (even if it isn't reflected in the scoring description)

[opal mantle]

Do you think the new/current iteration of the spend events with no scoring on g3 g4 etc mats will continue? Any real discussions on going back to including past mats?

[main spindle]

Flashpoint invasions is a joke that didn't work right from the start please don't run this crap for the next 6 months

[brazen sandal]

How about 12 months?

[main spindle]

How about not at all

[proud iron]

Simple solution we all just delete the app

[magic valley]

So the announcement yesterday was false? Stage 2 IMS scoring was not increased to 2 per dropship

[pastel mortar]

If no ones happy and you know it clap your hands 👏 👏

[blazing furnace]

We just realized the event store isn't worth the time they took to code it. Too much work to shave a few days off a refinery pull

[brazen sandal]

That works too

[plucky ermine]

<@&509690795536941056> "During this downtime, all ships will be recalled to your base." so do we get back our spent tokens for transogen token systems then?

[stray arrow]

I was literally just typing this same thing

What about any token system?

[plucky ermine]

well I don't mind other token systems that much as their tokens are generally available

[daring ingot]

so everyone is doing armadas for their SMS now and they're not scoring for the IMS which hasn't started yet. Brilliantly planned out Scopely, you've outdone yourselves this time. Not that we would pass the IMS even if it WERE scoring.

[winter prism]

Congrats scopley people lost interest in your 6 month mechanic in weeks 2 <@&509690795536941056>

[stray arrow]

Yeah. At lvl 40+. But, our alliance has lvl 30 ops players and the cooldown on those tokens is a couple days and they aren't high enough in the factions to get the easy ones

[fiery fulcrum]

They never get fired. 2025 is like a "who's the most incompetent" race and each month the current arc runner outshines the last.

[umbral olive]

Any other servers have a MUCH HIGHER hostile requirement than an equivalent age server with more active players? No? Just us?

[long notch]

Is anyone else not getting rewards for milestones on stage 2 of the IMS? Ive asked multiple people in my alliance and some from other alliances too and a lot of people not getting the reward at all

[warm sorrel]

I've gotten the two milestones we've hit so far on IMS stage 2

[spice brook]

You scored (killed a hostile) after stage 2 started?

[warm sorrel]

have you killed any dropships? I think you have to participate to get rewards

[long notch]

ive killed hundreds

[tulip jackal]

They announced that flashpoints would be game changing, just not in the way they intended.

[long notch]

Yes have killed hostiles, been grnding them most of hte day and all the people i asked who also got no rewards have also been hitting dropships

[plush tapir]

Its ok, youll get the rewards when they run the event a 3rd time 😛

[long notch]

please no

soemone in GC did joke about them resetting it again so people could get rewards

[warm sorrel]

that might be a server specific issue then

I haven't seen anyone on 99 mentioning similar problems

[long notch]

yeah i thought it was weird because noone here had mentioned it and noone on 105 said anything until i specifically asked if people had got their rewards

i asked like 3mins after we hit 3rd milestone so no way people missed it if it had actually popped up

[warm sorrel]

check out those poor souls on 33, 51, and 56 (possibly more, just the ones I moused over), top milestone of 161,272. Almost quadruple some servers

[restive knoll]

i havent been getting the rewards

[long notch]

so its not just me/105 getting that issue (unless you are also 105?)

[restive knoll]

no, im on 80

[long notch]

anyone else on 80 getting the same issue? cause i havent found anyone on 105 who got stage 2 rewards at all

[restive knoll]

some are and some arent

[long notch]

now thats just more confusing. i dont suppose theres any obvious differences with who is and isnt?

[pure notch]

<@&509690795536941056> ims stage 2 dont give rewards!!

[long notch]

another member of the no rewards club yay

[plush tapir]

84 about to hit the first milestone of stg2 so we might join club

[long notch]

shout it here if you dont i guess we can get a list of us

[stray arrow]

S101 - got the reward for the first milestone but not the second

[plush tapir]

84 did not join club, i got reward

[cosmic steeple]

pinged ya

[cosmic steeple]

Passing this on.

[umbral olive]

COMP CHEST WHEN?!?!?

[cosmic steeple]

I'm passing on Servers that aren't getting the stage 2 rewards. They will be sent in a gift chest.

[plush tapir]

Is there a plan to run this a 3rd time if noone finishes again 😛

[pine flint]

Any chance the ims pt 2 values will be adjusted? Looking like most servers aren't gonna make it to coincide with armada directives spend

Have a feeling a lot of players are going to burn their directives today for points and make it totally impossible to complete phase 3

[abstract gate]

@dreamy patio any word from Scopely?

[warm sorrel]

third run is already scheduled, question is how much they will adjust for even worse scores this time

[mental yoke]

Doesn’t matter. Most have given up…as have I. This content is not engaging just enraging.

[bitter yoke]

Does seska work below decks against huraks

[little narwhal]

is there sourcing for the premium transogen warp tolls other than every 5 levels of transogen forge? is there any resetting pulls of it anywhere?

[little narwhal]

non armada hostiles so she'd help on the dropships below deck if you have enough crit chance to hit critical

[bitter yoke]

Ok so change of below decks it is

[deft willow]

Every week once the building is 45

[little narwhal]

i use seska below crit is one of my best stats crit crit damage n iso cascade

n seska exchange is unlimited sourcing with charged credits exchange one at a time

its cheaper to do it in single pulls

[tacit walrus]

Im guessing we didnt hear from community manager much today because hes having to grind out the events on his "personal" account?

[summer light]

the higher one is my server... @umbral olive <@&509690795536941056> can you explain why different servers have different hostile requirements????

[rigid tulip]

Its crazy not only do they have to do less work they have more players and power lol

[fiery compass]

some servers have 2x the population of some other servers

[rigid tulip]

So the lower IMS screenshot is from server 86 and the higher one is from 84. 86 has over 600+ more active players and 50 billion more total power.

So they have even more players and even more power and get to do even less work then other servers

It makes literally zero sense I don't understand the logic behind it at all.

[dreamy patio]

Probably because the snapshot for the metrics they use to determine milestones may have been taken before the merge

But who knows, they don't disclose that info

[rigid tulip]

ahh that could be it possibly

[dreamy patio]

we're like 2 weeks into the merge

so yeah

[rigid tulip]

And I don't think 86 should have to do more just wish we all caught a break lol

[dreamy patio]

Look on the bright side

We're still not finishing IMS 3

[rigid tulip]

I saw one server had almost 160k needed looks brutal

Yea ain't that the sad truth 😦 But hey scopely listened and adjusted lol

[rigid tulip]

are you og 86 or were you from the 90s server that merged in? was wondering how life has been there since merge

[dreamy patio]

https://tenor.com/view/were-still-working-on-that-julius-jones-caesar-kingdom-business-s1-e6-gif-7443103234765515779

From 92

[rigid tulip]

sorta surprised they didn't move 86 into 92

[thick scroll]

I finished stage 4 and Whats next?

[dreamy patio]

That's for IMS 4, not the sms

[summer light]

my server decided to not complete stage 2 and said F it

[modest coyote]

I don't even look at it, because I can't contribute. It's just annoying.

[thick scroll]

it say Repel Hurak not Hurak Invasion😵‍💫

[warm sorrel]

there is something weird going on with the missions, for example I have a chapter 1 mission but no chapter 2 and the gold rush one is gone

[dreamy patio]

gold rush was renamed

[warm sorrel]

whatever it was renamed to is gone then

I've picked up all the flashpoint missions so far, and I only have the repel hurak, chapter 1 left

[dreamy patio]

this is gold rush

[warm sorrel]

that's a little confusing with two different pictures posted, here's my missions

I'm missing the chapter 2 flashpoint mission, and whatever gold rush turned into

[fiery folio]

Anyone know what happened to the 60 epics for the new armadas did they just remove them?

[warm sorrel]

there should be a system where only epic 60s spawn, check some of the new ones that were added

[rare verge]

They moved them to the new satellite system

[woven dragon]

I'm sure one of these weeks stage 3 will be completed by 1 server.

At ops54 I have completed the sms, this is clearly not balanced at all.

[analog belfry]

How am I to kill the vanguards? Is there some dmg boost exo or what? 50m ship with max iso crew and I can't even get to hull on rare 45s. Seems impossible to score in SMS

[warm sorrel]

what is a max iso crew, specifically?

[analog belfry]

Janeway, demarco, doctor

[warm sorrel]

who do you have below decks?

[analog belfry]

Wok mccoy, vael, neelix, paris

[warm sorrel]

are you at the mitigation cap? you're tripled up on mitigation boosters

replacing mccoy or paris with wok joachim or snw pelia will probably help survive longer

[analog belfry]

I don't have wok j and pelia is just t1 😁 need to work on that

I can try to put belana there

[warm sorrel]

if the doctor gets you to the mitigation cap then anything to squeeze more damage or iso defense would do you better below decks

[analog belfry]

But I can't get below 50% shield anyway now. I don't expect switching one or two below deck will get me there. Thanks for your help

[opaque ore]

I'm not sure we had enough people capable of Hurak Vanguard/Honorguard to do stage 3 IMS. Even if we do, I'm pretty sure we don't have enough left that still have directives to even try. Once stage 3 SMS is done, you're pretty much out.

Telling people to wait for the IMS to finish didn't work so well...especially with last week as the example.

[foggy forge]

Here lies the final resting place of the Hurak Flashpoint IMS. The player base were disenfranchised by the grind ⚰️✝️

[lilac musk]

Scopely thinks adjusting the scoring will fix the problem. They aren’t aware of how their own events are structured but I’m sure they are acutely aware of people are spending money towards unobtainable targets the whales can’t carry themselves

[opaque ore]

More likely not spending. I haven't spent a dime since the week protector was launched.

[lilac musk]

Yeah but I bet they are betting on whales trying to carry the IMS by themselves but they can’t or have given up

[opaque ore]

That doesn't make sense...even if they were willing to throw money at directives, they aren't willing to personally spend the time to do 1000s of solo armadas to turn that into points.

[lavish rune]

We are seeing the same on 108 , turning in the dailies for killing the dropships doesnt give you enough armada tokens to do the SMS event, without spending money. As such it should be labelled "heroic" and optional. No one can complete the IMS without whale support , very badly calculated event, still!

[lusty coral]

Anyone know where I can find the epic Hurak honorguard armadas?

[versed stirrup]

Are there still no epic hurak honorguards spawning beyond the 46 system? Can find any in 50/56/60 systems.

[dreamy patio]

look in the new systems, they split the spawns

[opaque ore]

Glave Gamma has 50 Honorguard

Tiefurt has 55 Honorguard

[snow crater]

So after 3 double pulls of the invasion hostile loot I have gotten zero directives, it's therefore impossible for me to complete the stage 3 SMS.

Why do I only have a chance of participating in events rather than just being able to take part and have a chance of completing them.

There's packs...which I refuse to purchase out of principle.
But would it not be better to let people have directives and purchase more if they're needed and that way inclined?

<@&509690795536941056>

[lusty coral]

Thank you

[versed stirrup]

How long is the respawn time? The g5 rares huraks are dead all the time, 60's hitting down...

[upbeat swallow]

triple pull next time?

i agree though, there needs to be a guarantee of directives with a chance to get more than min ect

[solid gazelle]

Respawn time is way too long when these are in hazard systems.

I can’t even see us completing the first milestone, there just aren’t enough directives available

[sweet roost]

It was the same for the previous event but it seems they don't learn.
Our server seems not even motivated to finish ims part 2 this time and most of the players already spended their armada dirs to do their sms

[spare pollen]

Why do we only get 2 points per kill? Is it just so we have to spend hours doing it?

[snow crater]

What's the point? Also my triple pull is huge. So no. Fact is it shouldn't be a chance. If anything it should be a chance of getting 1, 2 or 3 starts not a chance of getting zero 🤦‍♀️

[versed osprey]

Its a server milestone

[spare pollen]

Thank goodness I was thinking I will never get that done

[cyan cape]

I am not motivated. I can kill 4 60s or like 10 58s per run. mining, the event wants 364M transogen pulls. My selkie holds about 1.5M. And if I go over 300M per run, we have a little toad running around hitting opc. Plus we have a server troll who is killing anything he finds in the transogen area. Tell me again why I want to do 90 trips for mining?

[raw ibex]

Stupid event!! How are we supposed to complete it if we don’t have directives? Those that do have directives can’t complete it either coz the rares aren’t spawning 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[weak copper]

Don’t worry, your server won’t get it done either

[rough hill]

Flashpoint Hurak invasion stage 3 isn't scoring on our server (131). Stupid event anyway

[coral niche]

It is scoring

[untold copper]

at 56 I've been getting guaranteed directives per hurak chest, but the 60+ crowd isn't getting directives at all? seems like a misconfigured reward

[random bough]

The rng for the loot pulls is ridiculous. Pulled a 3 chest got no directives, said I wont grind that out again... pull a single box today and get both rare and epic directives?? WTAF

[potent sun]

It is once again completely insane that i can grind for an hour to pull a chest on a 24 hour cooldown and not get the thing that’s required for the next step in a loop

We need more directives, we are on track to not come remotely close on the IMS again, and people can’t finish their SMS, so they stop trying to contribute

[fiery fulcrum]

The developer said the drop chance is supposed to be 75%. At 9 pulls and zero directives, someone probably put a decimal point in the wrong place or put the wrong chance amount. Given how many random broken things this game has, not surprised.

[plush tapir]

Well TBF dev also said they were listening to feedback about the grind time 😛

[fiery fulcrum]

Yeah, about that, I tried giving them the benefit of the doubt and grinded the last I needed to get FC Kahn and Joaquin. Maxed the PvE nodes. Getting close to being able to blow up one level 66 hostile as they expect me to do, but still, way too strong.

On the positive side, I can now blow up last arc’s level appropriate hostiles 🤣

[little narwhal]

is this spend weekend gonna be broken like last one? where only your grade scores?

i still havent gotten my first chest. i keep trying to go too high n die

[fiery fulcrum]

I am not a fan of the new officer unlock structure. Just trash.

[clever briar]

new structure really penalizes people going up to a new grade

[little narwhal]

i hope we can get a scotty t1 recruit i can do that one been chasing snw efficiency its at 20% if i can get one more i get scotty n can do these grinds. these events are so hard so people get 9999 officers i hate wallet bait events

have a great day back to trying to get my first chest open

[hexed lark]

<@&509690795536941056> Iso defense exo does not seem to work, taking same iso damage with or without it.

[mental yoke]

Had I known they were going to do this with the mat spend slbs, I would have not pushed that ops51 button. Now everyone is def gonna camp so they don’t loose out on all that generation mats scoring.

[little narwhal]

can we get ims total points reduction for the player who quit due to flashpoint? lost 2 members of my alliance n i know many outside quit also

less players means less points we still are in ims2

[visual sparrow]

Why only g6???

[lapis cliff]

Scopely right now https://media.tenor.com/es-NWMCCCHcAAAPs/hajime-no-ippo-sendo.webm

[static mica]

<@&509690795536941056> Newly released officer mat spend SLB is a positive return, but it's not a full unlock for 1st. 130 to unlock 1st is only 100. Still only counts current Gen and above mats. So still a double nerf.

[serene forum]

<@&509690795536941056> are you joking?

oh, i forgot, none of them are working on the weekend

[static mica]

That's what 120k uc g6... ... .. . .. ..

85m for ops 60. so not much better down here. But the mat change of only counting current gen has done one positive thing for me. It's given me another reason to delay going g6 longer.

[visual sparrow]

<@&509690795536941056> send my thx to Scamley for not allowing me to finish this sms since only g6 counts 😡🤬

[gloomy mesa]

Is the G6 material thing typical for the 61+ spend events?

[inner cave]

G5/6 only wtf

[spare copper]

<@&509690795536941056> This last leg of ascendant is crap. Just went to level 61 at the start of this arc. Most buildings and things that i can spend G6 on just use common. How is someone like me supposed to reach that 90 mil final tier. That means I cant finish the final event to get the last 100 points to finish the final synthesis.

[gloomy mesa]

I just recently went up to G6 but still have some G5 research and ship upgrades I could do

[serene forum]

it is now, it wasn't

we could score with g5, g4 and g3

[rigid tulip]

Only letting g6 materials count for score is crazy and going to push a ton of people myself included to quit.

[mental yoke]

Scoeply…don’t camp. Also scoeply: oh you pushed that ops 51 button and so t have much g5 yet and can’t spend g4. Your welcome.

That won’t encourage camping or anything…

[gloomy mesa]

I wonder if it’s worth holding off on spending my G5 or if this is just how it will be now

[earnest river]

Another event where u have to spend money for little reward stop being greedy

[hardy geyser]

even if the building would require uncommon, F2P are missing the sigma accelerators for such an event

one of the reason I'm still ops63.... mats wise I could go to ops66 but I don't have the accelerators to do so

[formal spire]

<@&509690795536941056> Why are you screwing so much f2p
And low spenders by not counting all grade materials for spending events? No way i can get a single officer now

[mental yoke]

That appears to be their plan.

[serene forum]

this is one of the reasons they are stopping us from getting the points with g3, g4 and g5, the other is that F2P were getting all officers for free

[cedar plank]

where do I use this?

[dreamy patio]

need to buy the battlepass, then it unlocks the box in the officer bucket

in the event store

[tranquil seal]

Some one said there will be no slb for new officers, and now they did slb for new officers. Really very cheap mindset of scopley and no info, deliberate attempt to not give info in first place, really lost all hope of any fair play.

[cedar plank]

oh so purchase first then pull? way to go scopely another worthless trash to put in our inventory

[bronze badger]

They literally pulled a Ferengi contract trap on us….

It’s not mentioned in the Chronicles Events anywhere that you can only spend them if you have the Ferengi BattlePass.

But is mentioned once, at the bottom, of the Ferengi BattlePass notes…

[little narwhal]

go suck an egg!!!

its in officers

[cedar plank]

scopely business is business didn't care so much for the f2p players nowadays , I like the management before

[shrewd light]

Its scopley last cash grab before they shut down the game 😅🙈

[little narwhal]

chance at wok scotty

[cedar plank]

who's egg 😂

[little narwhal]

not chance wok scotty recruit in officers ferengii officers

idk it was in a christmas story... dinosaur egg!!!

the egg came first!

[little narwhal]

we are definately approaching endgame. they are milking us for the last of our spendability

trying to. spenders have been quitting on s95

or talking strongly about it

[cedar plank]

last payroll to the devs

[little narwhal]

they need to adjust the IMS total for all the players who quit since flashpoint started. i know its more than the ones ive noticed 2 in my alliance

took a 'break'

[cedar plank]

I never partake in flash point event

[little narwhal]

i stopped honkai impact 3rd for this game. gotta see if that one is still around. get alot more out of it n the events are dynamic they add new style of events than just new hostiles or grinds

its only the second but ya this is the wok scotty weekend i will get him but my directives are all gone n they dont really have a source other than 9999

for enough to matter/make a difference

[craggy sundial]

<@&509690795536941056>

To add my voice to the many, MANY angry voices here. These events, especially this last one using only G6 materials isn't right. I have the materials, I don't have ANYTHING to spend them on as a Ops61 player. I've been screwed over for progressing. Add G5 at least, PLEASE.

[idle stump]

The meta has 2 days on it - is there naother event after this, can i skip the spend and still complete the meta with another event. I thought the materials spend was the last one in the event calender - did I miss something ?

[light elm]

G5 players are hurt by the spending change too; low g5 costs a ton of common and very very little UC or rare. Heck there was some research that cost g4 mats that was blocked by buildings/research requiring ops 51+, so you had to be g5 before you could spend g4 on them 🤦🏻‍♀️

[spare copper]

I wouldn't be as upset if they allowed 1 level lower to count towards event. Still would prefer them doing it like always allowing all levels of mats to be used.

[sly bane]

litterally says buy packs... are you kidding me scopely?. be a little more greedy... make us buy a 99.99 pack to login to the game... would really push those profits.

[serene forum]

nothing will happen on the weekend, if we are lucky they will fix it in the next part of the arc.

and i don't believe in luck

[vagrant pumice]

Man... Do the people at scopely even THINK before changing events? Oh, you want us to ops up? Then don't PENALIZE us for opsing up! "Oh, you went to 51? No more G4 scoring for you!"

This change will ENCOURAGE people to camp for as long as possible! Which is purportedly the OPPOSITE of what scopely is pushing for. Literal smooth brain move.

[light elm]

Exactly, it's switched from fear of missing out if you don't jump up a grade to fear of misding out if you don't camp

[timid storm]

When will the point change be implemented? It still shows the 1 point for the Vanguard and 4 points for the Honorguard.

[wise ore]

It’s a good Arc to take a break. Not missing anything.

[zealous wigeon]

Gee Scopley thanks for mentioning that the Epic Hurak Entities got buffed...That minor detail would have been nice to know.

[zealous tendon]

Dear Scopely, thanks for making 61s only score from spending G6.. By which I mean what the actual ___? Bruh!

[cinder dew]

It was like that last week also, they are too stubborn to change. Lack of participation should be there concerns and an easy metric to figure out.

[vagrant pumice]

welcome to the party. This is honestly a move that should have us starting a B word.

[modest coyote]

It looks to me like lack of effort, followed by trying to pretend there was effort. The outright errors alone point to this.

[zealous tendon]

Yeah, I thought last week was possibly 'just the new content' but it seems like they are changing how we can expect the game to work at a meta level.... Without bothering to mention it. Like.. Norms THEY established over the previous 5 years... If you're going to change something that fundamental to the game... Gotta say something up front.

Beyond underwhelming

I could have just levelled all my ships when I built them 😆 Would have been more FUN

But, apparently Scopely wouldn't prefer I have FUN playing their GAME

🙄

[zinc rapids]

So the Chronicle SLB's reward you with Ferrnghi Premium chips that can only be used if you purchase that battlepass. Why give a reward that can't be used?

[burnt sky]

I just want to vent real quick.
Scoply has no spine, no honor, no humility. They rarely admit to their mistakes, never recognize the elephant in the room when it comes to their interpretation of how events, mechanics, and let alone time that is spent/required on this game.
Not to mention they lie openly with no second thought. They must think we have short term memory loss or amnesia. We remember, and I’ll always remember this arc. That’s ingrained into my head for the remainder of what I have left playing this game. Which in turn put a 100% halt to all spending. Sucks because I had a plan for this year to keep progressing with purchasing from the store a couple times a month. But hey, I’ll wait it out, F2P now at level 67.

I just wish they would put out a video or at a minimum a detailed post on how they recognize our frustrations, a REAL plan that is kept in place to make the game fair, balanced, and fun for F2P/Spenders.

[lucid sinew]

So just another week where as ops 53 i can't spend my g4 materials and grt and recognition for it. I was going to get that dopamine hit from spending and scoring in the slb so can prepare for my assent to 60 but once again all I feel is ripped of and will slow my game down... if you want to do stupid stuff and hurt the player base again all we will do is slow everything down and leave your game this month has been out right silly.

[vagrant pumice]

honestly the spend events the last couple months were the best things about those arcs. With an SMS that lasted the duration of the arc, and upgraded to multiple levels when finished. It allowed you to pace yourself and be strategic with your material spending to complete the daily SMS events and make good progress towards Ahead of the Curve... Then this month they really just turned around and said, "we're going to throw out EVERYTHING that made spend events good! Maybe THAT will encourage people to spend more $!"

It's encouraging us alright... but its not to spend more money. Rather the inverse!

[smoky cosmos]

Why is there no slb with g5 g4 material.... thank a lot scamely...your ruining the game. You want us to progress so put in then g4 g5 material.. g damm @cosmic steeple

[zealous tendon]

So much this.

[white stone]

to make sure spend events are now credit card events. no more hoarding.

[white stone]

so that it makes you spend if you have hoarded all this time to win a slb. they dont want F2P winning slb of course.

[pure notch]

<@&509690795536941056> is there an issue with scoring in ims3?

[worn raven]

Seeing a scoring issue with IMS Stage 3 here on 91 as well. The Stage 3 SMS scored just fine, but not for the IMS. Points are not being awarded.

[past mauve]

Well, you finally did it Scopely. I give up. I've been angry before, but I've never NOT participated. I'm officially done with this arc.

[floral cave]

And whoever input the respawn times on the rare vanguard really messed up did 3 and sat in the system fully boosted waiting for respawn till the hazard damage killed me, an event to do them as quickly as possible and they don't instantly respawn, they need to fix this immediately

[ember loom]

Yup, there's really no good reason transogen space should be hazard space. It's gameplay hampering for so many players.

[pure notch]

Wait wait in part 2 u will get pay solution of transogen hazard protection

[ember loom]

Oh I'm sure they will sell a prime for transogen hazard resistance in the future as a "solution" to a problem they created.

My solution will be not to pay and not to play.

[solar fog]

Respawn rate on these new armadas is trash

[finite meadow]

Brand new to G6… is this the new normal, or is scopely just being greedy by only allowing 6* to score?

[past mauve]

@cosmic steeple Please convey this to the arc designers: Someone could theoretically grind Targ Tags for the ENTIRE DAY and then by simple RNG end up with NO directives, and thus not be able to complete anything. How do I know this? Because it happened to me. These stupid directives need to either be GUARANTEED, or there needs to be no cooldown timer on the redemption. Pick one.

[desert laurel]

New thing this month.

[minor roost]

Which has also encouraged me to not spend. If they want only g6 to score for me, give me more g6 and nothing else in the packs I buy

[modest coyote]

It's someone making it easy on themselves by setting up one event for everyone. I can score the same for G6, if I had any or could use it (though my milestones are about half of yours).

[desert laurel]

It's not any easier. G6 can only score with G6 mats, G5 can score with G5/6 mats, and G4 can score on G4/5/6 mats.

[modest coyote]

I mean it was easy for the event designer to set up, not the players. It's impossible for them, imho.

[desert laurel]

Why would it be easier to design that way, than the way before? A month ago, they all used the same scoring format, the only difference was the MS in each bracket.

[modest coyote]

They all used the same point scale? I can't see any but my own, unless someone posts it.

[minor roost]

Why does it matter if it is easier to set up or not. It is worse for the players. Just like everything else recently.

[modest coyote]

I thought the previous ones had different scoring metrics for differet ops brackets, maybe not.

[shrewd knot]

I'm also wondering why it's 50M points for G4 players. It's over a million Unc

[modest coyote]

It's obvious that the milestones are unrealistic. I don't know if there is enough things to upgrade, to spend that much.

[plush tapir]

Have to create issues to sell solutions, they are just making sure the community is frustrated enough to feel that its needed for whatever they are selling in 2 weeks for next part

[minor roost]

Most I know are frustrated enough to just not care and or quit. My alliance spending is way down (fraction of the alliance gifts there used to be). I think they have pushed too far this time

[modest coyote]

Maybe if a G4 spent most of the July elite pack this weekend (including the daily rewards), they might finish that one.

I am at one third of one percent of the final synthesis sms, and 9th in the slb. What does that say?

[desert laurel]

Complexity leads to mistakes. And if all the auctions were designed simply, then it'd also be easier to plan for.

[minor roost]

Scopely leads to mistakes. Doesn't matter how "easy" it is. And we had all been planning for the way it was, so they changed it to mess that up. That is the most likely truth and a huge amount of the problem that anyone related to scopely seems to be tone deaf to

[modest coyote]

It makes me wonder if the person who set this one up knows that G6 players spend non-G6 mats.

[minor roost]

Of course they do. And they don't like it cause it cuts into the sales

So this method cut my purchases completely

[modest coyote]

I have gotten events that I am not allowed (by Scopely) to buy what is needed for them. That doesn't make sense if it's all about sales.

[desert laurel]

Gutting lower grade scoring could be a precursor to G5 scrapping.

[minor roost]

Or they could be an excuse. Especially since they never changed with other scrapping

[solar fog]

This arc runner has failed again. Cant complete events if what you are supposed to kill doesn’t respawn. 🤦‍♂️

[boreal elk]

But we're frustrated about the technically incorrect scoring. We're frustrated about the events being reset after everyone scored already. We're frustrated about the lag in the event systems.

How will buying packs help with that frustration?

[versed stirrup]

The auction scale with the pack content. Since they put so much in there the milestones rise too...

[shrewd knot]

Well this is the sms point levels. And it's still almost 10x point level from a year ago. The packs haven't upped that much.

[versed stirrup]

It's a smaller problem to get those materials. The bigger problem is you don't get more things building/research etc. to spend materials on. And with introducing more and more efficiencies to pool to spend on shrinks further and further...

At some point we need a oven building where you can put 1 material in and get 1 credit out or something and the exchange scores also on heroic sms/slbs.

[abstract gate]

What is pathetic is the Mod team is ignoring the big problems and pops in to answer small issues...lol

[versed stirrup]

What makes you think the communication they get is better than the one we experience?

[random bough]

Wow, they never did that with g4 scrapping... maybe ya know its as plain and simple as a money grab. Last month started driving people away and the complete cluster **** of the last 2 weeks, more have quit.
When your casuals stop buying all the bps, like many have, they start getting desperate...

[finite meadow]

<@&509690795536941056>

The whole 6* only for the auction SMS is infuriating. As a brand new G6 player, I actually DO have loads of 6* UC and Rare because I did what I was “supposed to” and saved by emergency rations, loyalty tokens, ticketed events, etc. until after the jump so I could get the pulls with 6* mats.

But as an Ops 61, there’s nowhere to spend UC and Rare 6* mats yet. Lots of common, which don’t score, and plenty of 5* still to spend, which don’t score.

During the Dev Q&A they made a BIG deal victim-blaming players for rushing levels too quickly so they can’t complete new arc hostile events, yet I’d have to rush Ops 62+ to spend ANYTHING on this auction … to get a pretty decent officer unlocked.

How is this helping anyone?

[molten sigil]

Or…it’s just another in a long line of middle fingers they’re giving us in this arc.

[finite meadow]

@cosmic steeple I know this isn’t “your fault,” but I hope you do understand that we look to you to be our voice back to scopely, and as all these things pile up arc after arc, it’s hard to figure out whether you’re ignoring us or Scopely’s ignoring you. As usual, I urge you to be far more present, vocal, and forthcoming with us the players…. I’ve been in this game almost since the very beginning, and I’m hanging on by a thread.

[dreamy patio]

Note that it is the weekend

[finite meadow]

So where’s the communication been Monday-Friday?

Also, candidly, if community support is going to evaporate over the weekends, then they shouldn’t run new events on the weekends either.

[slender escarp]

That’s logic, how dare you.

They even pulled in a second cm to help cover for weekends, you know, when the largest most problematic events usually happen and when most people have more time for it…..
Still crickets nine times out of ten.

[finite meadow]

Who’s the weekend-shift CM? Missed that development (although from your comment, maybe I know why I didn’t know it’s happened 😂)

[slender escarp]

A large number of people showed the other day when the ims events went back up the scoring was borked still for various servers…. Complete radio silence, until now, when there is less than 2 days left on something and a lot of people have given up on IMS 2 and gone and done their solo armadas already and moved on to their mining.

Flipping brilliant

[slender escarp]

At first it was a guy who quiet quit within a month, then it was simpauley who came in with the fanfair of now we could have weekend availability from one or the other on a rotating basis.

[wintry drum]

Is the Flashpoint 1 mission where you have to get to Stage 4 of the Repel Hurak event really only counting for the 1st iteration of thr event earlier in the week? Finally got to it and didn't get credit.

[dreamy patio]

The mission is for the IMS, not the SMS

[static mica]

And no server has gotten that. which was supposed to be fixed with reasonable milestones for the IMS events this go round... .. .. . . . . . . but reasonable doesn't mean the same thing in Scopely's vocabulary.

[random bough]

2 weeks of borked misdions madas scoring for ims, a reset of score, scores not stuff still not counting right... we are upset over this broken arc and events. Already losing players fast. 2 have all but quit my alliance. Won't participate in broken stuff

[slender escarp]

They overestimated the number of people left willing to drop a few hundred bucks on armada starts to try and finish a paywalled event.

[slender escarp]

Know how a lot of games in an rpg style have what is basically a damage-check or level-check boss fight?

This IMS is a pay-check event for your server.

[half vapor]

Boy oh boy this arc is lame like an apricott

[plush tapir]

Everything is going as planned, Snafu!

[dreamy fog]

I mission that says complete gold rush event have anyone seen this event

[slender escarp]

No, no one has, because no server can get to ims 4

[naive kiln]

Has any server finished the ims stage 3?

[flint canopy]

The top server is at 32% of stage 3

[naive kiln]

That's impressive

[spare pollen]

Triple Pull 221 million worth of grind for this?🤢

[daring ingot]

How long did that take you??

[spare pollen]

Hours

3 or so I would guess

[daring ingot]

Not as bad as I thought

[spare pollen]

Well, that was mostly in the 64 space, but still.

[flint canopy]

No sign of 63 rares on our server. Do others see them? We only have epics there again…

[quiet cobalt]

Doubt there’s any intention of making an IMS that can be completed. Failure each time to keep the story of it running for the next 6 months. 😂

[bronze badger]

Hmmmmm I question that, don’t think even the heavily addicted can manage to stomach that

[late inlet]

Nice work on the meme!

[lunar venture]

@dreamy patio Why is there a Borg Cube on the cover but no option to get BPS?

[next veldt]

@flint canopy where can I find this chart

[lunar venture]

https://stfc.pro/flashpoint

[next veldt]

@lunar venture Thanks much

[burnt sky]

I hate when they don’t put even little effort with their thumbnails for events. Happens so often.

[flint canopy]

Is that what you hate most about this arc? 😂

[opal mantle]

I’m on the top server

We just merged, about as densely populated as it gets

[rigid tulip]

Also server 86 has lower requirements for the IMS by large amounts

This was 86s stage 2 of the ims

I'm on 84 and we have 700 less active users and 50 billion less power then 86 and our ims requires over 35% more to finish.

Once I saw this I gave up. Making smaller servers work even harder is absolutely crazy.

[latent arrow]

Genuinely can't see this being possible, especially with how restricted the directives are, and how often people pull the targ chest and don't even get directives.

[hollow perch]

Clickbait 🙄

[frank raven]

Was I reading that server list correctly? 1/2 the servers aren't out of stage 2 and the top server is only 1/3 through stage 3, with a day to go in the IMS?

[tribal python]

I'm having trouble destroying these hurak vanguard armadas, especially the 45 rares (I'm at 44). Does anyone have any crew suggestions for defeating them (both bridge and below deck)?

[solid badger]

I am helping my server finish stage 2 IMS . I really hope this doesn't FFFF me on my max hostile kill count allotment.

[raw temple]

So what holiday will they find to use an excuse to sell us another battlepass double up?

I can't think of anything coming up lol

[dreamy patio]

Out of all the things they try to sell us, I actually like that one though.

[raw temple]

Yeah I want more choice tokens, but some of the holiday choices have been a stretch... Just call it what is a $29.99 doubleup lol

Pretty slim pickings, basically their choice sare Marine Day for Japan and Women Union's Day Holiday in Laos. Of course next month has Federation Day so that will be something for sure

[dreamy patio]

My birthday is at the end of the month. We can have an ArsenicTouch's birthday bonus battlepass celebration

Part of the proceeds can go into my "i need beer" fund

[grand oak]

this whole arc really sucks all hostiles are way too hard and require far too many kills for SMS you can actually kill this arc is a give it a miss scopley massively messed up

[hardy geyser]

just ignore the invasion stuff! Rewards are bad anyways

[fast ruin]

I don’t see how it’s possible for even the most active and powerful of servers to finish stage 3

[fast ruin]

I’m running Tolra, Toli and Demarco up top. Paris (maxed), Torres(maxed), Vael below. Epic 50s are no problem.

Currently ops 50, with a t9 Ent-A

[tribal python]

I have a t9 Kelvin with 4 open spots below deck. I haven't been able to defeat a rare 45. I'm at ops 44.

[fast ruin]

Crew alone isn’t enough I reckon. Get all your other related artifacts as well: Invading entities and what not.

[fair summit]

now show the ims side lol

[spare pollen]

Our server has no chance of doing this and I am very sure a lot less ppl tried this time round. No Comp packs can make this right. And what has been given so far means almost nothing.

Also, can anyone tell me if having done this makes any difference overall? for me or the server.

[woven cypress]

Yet again it looks like no server will complete this IMS. Gonna be amused to see how $copely spins this, given that they built a whole mission chain on the assumption that servers would routinely beat them...

[rigid tulip]

The most insulting thing to me is how they said they learned from the first run of this event and adjusted things. Yea that didn't happen it seems lol

[woven cypress]

We're way behind where we were last week, because a lot of folks on my server have completely checked out on this nonsense and aren't bothering anymore. Including some whales. Who will likely keep whaling, but who knows?

[hardy geyser]

the whole thing is basically a copy of Sarris invasion.... they didn't learn from the mistakes they did during the first run of those events when designing this.....

[woven cypress]

And... stage 3 IMS is broken. I just did a 55 epic, and 0 points were added to our score. <@&509690795536941056>

[spare pollen]

But what they offer for a Comp chest will make up for it, right? Nope, not even close so far.

[fiery fulcrum]

I’m running out of classic research to do, but “ I’m weak” according to the devs and that’s why I can’t kill the 66 hostiles 🤣

[slate mulch]

Can anyone share a hurak vanguard crew that’s effective? I got a 8B velox with 4 slots below and I can’t even scratch a 60 rare

[fiery fulcrum]

If you discover that answer, let me know

Mines almost at 9 bil power

[slate mulch]

Someone told me symbiosis crew but doesn’t seem to be that effective. Then swapped a sidecar for Demarco but still can’t pinch up

[woven cypress]

I'm 60 with max rotarran. I use the same crew i use for Sarris Chimeras and as my primary for Krenim solos. I can kill 55 rares all day, and a few 55 epics. I cannot scratch a 60 rare.

[slate mulch]

Saw this player beat a 60 with this crew

[lost elm]

And how much did you have to spend to have enough directives for stage 3?

[slate mulch]

Below he had Torres, tendi, WOK McCoy, Suder, and E troi

[slate mulch]

See my post below

[clever cliff]

pic/bev/de marco - bd pic hugh, neelix,bellana,paris or mccoy, kim

[slate mulch]

I was able to beat the 60s handily with the crew I posted above but where’s the 63 rares? I want to test but can’t find them

[solid gazelle]

I use Neysmith, Gwen and tolra. Below Joachim Kim Torres Neelix vale

[slate mulch]

Nesmith/Demarco seems to be the way to go. I even went a spent a bunch of event credits to tier up my Demarco

[fiery folio]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

Need to do some stuff to get the parts to upgrade that building XD

[hardy geyser]

oh.... since they didn't reset the limits from run 1, I cannot pull that chest anymore 🤣

[fiery folio]

Yeah.... with you there 😅 though my timer comes up today so we shall see

[solid gazelle]

How many more attempts at this stupid flashpoint do they think we are going to suffer?

[frozen abyss]

The level 66 Hurak Vanguards (rare) seem to not be counting towards the IMS at all, which is such a pain.

[smoky spear]

How is that possible 🧐

[frozen abyss]

WOK Joachim is key to these things.

[smoky spear]

Yea specially if you got low iso def like me only got 260%

[frozen abyss]

SNW Scotty is T2

[cursive verge]

This IMS is starbase 2.0 an epic failure and a pitiful response and attempt to fix by scopley. You can tell most servers have checked out on trying to complete. Look at the steam drop in % done... #starbase2.0

[smoky spear]

60s rare not that hard can beat it with a ceri and crew i used

Epic idk about didn't get any epic directives

[polar patio]

that works best for me, i get 100% crit chanace from FC lorca and buffs, t5 torres, wok joachim and in my case neelix for more iso damage. Lorcas fist etc aswell

velox isn't as good for these tho, so maybe try 63s

[versed osprey]

need all the buffs for that I reckon

[polar patio]

yes

[versed osprey]

tried the 63 epic lmao, my cube died in round 1

[polar patio]

bare minimum is cerri+ titan normal buffs

[versed osprey]

for some reason some of its shots completely ignore shields

[polar patio]

yeah the epic hit like a semi truck

[versed osprey]

nvm Im stupid

[bright raptor]

I can’t remember a season pass event that was contingent on chests pulls, chance and luck. If you don’t get the hurak directives you can’t finish.

[rough sandal]

Are the epics bugged? Damage seems way higher than it should be.

Can kill a 63 rare but a 60 epic 1-round kills me.

[paper viper]

The effort for this is just amazing high.

[languid scarab]

But they are still sticking in 5* in everything they sell. But its worthless

[rare verge]

@paper viper interesting crew 🤔🤔

[paper viper]

Using all buffs I can find 🤣

[static mica]

Uh...master surveyor bp event just showed up with like 2m to do it...

Edit: Its fixed now. Shows 24 hours to do it now.

[fiery fulcrum]

Well, worthless past reaching ops 66

[floral cave]

Has any server finished the ims stage 3 yet

[strange nexus]

Nope

[pale rain]

Nobody even doin it

A few playing with crews here and there but no one is really trying

[strange nexus]

My server literally just hit stage 3......such a trash arc.......2nd iteration and no server will finish the IMS

[red rapids]

34-35 these are not scoring

[pale rain]

Read

[pale rain]

Aquatic

[pale rain]

Reptilian

Different hostiles

Not every ship in that system will score

Very few aquatics spawn in those systems

[red rapids]

There are Aquatics in that system, that are not scoring.

[pale rain]

Those haven't scored in previous events usually had to go to 40 minimum. Probably counts the aquatics as token space in the copy pasted coding

[frozen abyss]

Then why are they listed in the event?

[fringe lark]

@frozen abyss 👆

[muted prairie]

Xindi 34’s are not counting for kill event - even though they are supposed to be 100 pts per kill

This time they specifically wrote 34-35 aquatics and the only place for those - is non token space

[smoky cosmos]

So scamely is doing a great job in the IMS... i don't even bother this event and the upcoming events the coming 6 months. @cosmic steeple it's great to see that scamely ruined the game in 2 weeks time. Great job....been proud 👏 sarcasm off.

[compact thicket]

Soooo, what am I missing reward-wise by not completing the mission “Flashpoint I: Repel Hurak, Chapter 1?

Cause I just refuse to care about this arc anymore with the over the top grind, stupid-high milestones, and full-time job time suck of time required to do the simplest things…. So, just thought to ask what I wasn’t gonna get to see if it’d motivate me to care again…..

Probably won’t, but doesn’t hurt to ask just to be sure 😅

[dreamy patio]

the rewards are minor

[compact thicket]

Thank you! Then I’ll continue along my merry way finding something actually fun and not frustrating to do….

[dreamy patio]

Your server would need to reach IMS 4 for them anyway

and no server will be reaching it

for the second time

[floral cave]

Not even close

[frozen abyss]

Maybe if half of the invading entities weren't randomly excluded from counting for the event...

[bronze badger]

Hey you reached the first Milestone, congrats.

Not being sarcastic, it’s seriously hard

[bronze badger]

Which ones were excluded, curious, I mean besides the surveys

[frozen abyss]

The level 66 rare invading entities (vanguards) are one. I'm not sure about the others.

[grand linden]

Has anyone lower than ops level 45 been able to beat a Vanguard? Tried my first…barely scratched it.

[bronze badger]

Ouch, missed that, mainly because I’m hitting in the 50’s range, but that’s a serious scoring problem as this event seems tailored to break G6’s back.

[bronze badger]

Allot of it depends on crewing (and their tier), research and buffs.
My alliance had a 42 do it, but a big max fortified and Cerritos buffed him

[grand linden]

Which ship and crew?

[bronze badger]

Honestly don’t remember as it was a discussion in AC and I didn’t witness it, but the player is an older slow grow account (like I am) and had max tier ships / research / officers,

The basics for success are:
On Deck
[C] OG Pike, Delmarco, Tolra
Below Deck
Vael, Paris, Kim, Torres, Beckett, eTroi (others as you have them)

Also….
Don’t forget Exo’s (Ship and Base DMG, Officer Defense etc) and to cloak

[paper viper]

WOK Joachim

[weary parrot]

Anyone know which systems have lvl 50 epic hurak honorguards? Can't seem to find them

[dreamy patio]

glave gamma

[weary parrot]

Appreciate

[rotund bane]

Some in my bracket found the secret formula

[polar patio]

it's called "hitting higher"

[fiery fulcrum]

Failing high. That’s how some people scored high on damage events.

[polar patio]

gotta be able to get a shot out too lol

higher ones just nuke you if you're not super strong

[cyan cape]

Whoo hoo!! Interceptor event!! Oh. Nevermind. It requires BUYING 3 PACKS. Clearly, the message is getting through here.

[rotund bane]

Love to find out what they're hitting. Im ops 60 and managed 1x60 rare fully buffed and got about 70b points.

[polar patio]

looks like 63, maybe epic

[muted prairie]

34/35’s are being excluded and for those who can’t hit 40’s yet - for now you are out of luck

That’s basically what Scopely replied

[rotund bane]

Might be the rare 63, they're up in the 62 system.

[polar patio]

64s would need cc 60 and FC kirk skills max, qsd or the wr ct. (or grush). They killed my 3.1b dderi halfway through r1 so it would need some big whale at 60 to beat those

[calm elbow]

Wtf am i doing wrong no xindi kill counts

[dreamy patio]

34 and 35s aren't counting atm, have to kill the 40+

[calm elbow]

Brilliant has it been raised?

[dreamy patio]

#🛠-known-issues

[timid cypress]

Ive built and maxed a legio.
Im ops 35.
Not even tier one. That cant be right.

[calm elbow]

And tough look if we cant kill the 40s?

[frank raven]

I've told ya guys the people making these events since at least WoK pt 1 DO NOT PLAY THE GAME. It like Scope fired everyone that's been there for years and replaced them with people that learned coding from Roblox.

[left sandal]

ok i pay i get @@#$# epic gas WHERE IS MY GAS U CROOKS!

[calm elbow]

And if we cant kill them,?

[left sandal]

where is my G5 epic gas?

[spice brook]

34 & 35 have NEVER counted as Xindi. They don’t carry the Xindi tag.

[dreamy patio]

The score card lists them as counting, and they've been added to other events recently.

[versed stirrup]

Can we get a challenging heroic sms someday 😂

[sinful pewter]

@here do we know if the currency will carry over to the next phase of Flashpoint? Or do you HAVE to buy a pack to get the extra loot to get the Fleet Preset?

[late inlet]

I don't see any 5* epic gas there...

[frank raven]

Looks like Scoped screwed every player in the game again with stage 3, not that stage 2 was great with 1/2 the server giving up right off the bat. Not sure there’ll be a next time. No one is going to go through this junk a 3rd time. Transogen is already going the way of data mining and it’s only been a thing for about 2 weeks.

[plush tapir]

itll be 6 months of excitement!

[lime bone]

Has any lvl45 managed to do flashpoint vanguard ?

[thorny heath]

Well im 134. And no chance we finish stage 3...

[woeful wyvern]

Flashpoint is the worst event of all time.

[late inlet]

Ummm WOK was pretty bad ...

[bronze badger]

Excellent humble brag, lol.

As a slow grow OP’s 50 who typically does well in SLB’s (same milestones) I’m pretty that sure you are the 0.5% - 2% of the player base at your OP’s

[late inlet]

I'm a strong 50 also, so I'll have Scotty unlocked without maxing the event

[bronze badger]

And to be clear there is nothing wrong with that, but for our OP’s range 50m is very unusual for an officer SMS, over a 2 day event, when specially focused on G4+

Atleast on my server can’t remember the last time the weekend spend SLB broke 40m+

[shrewd knot]

Isn't this where the 45 rares are supposed to spawn? Been checking and nothing

[late inlet]

Oh, I agree

[bronze badger]

They don’t, they failed to fix the spawns and now systems only spawn rares or epics, to be addressed later

[late inlet]

Usually a 3 week event

And only tokens last week

[bronze badger]

Exactly, and the last thing we need is some Scopley rep cherry picking that kind of comment to prove “they aren’t wrong” because sarcasm often doesn’t carry over text 🤣

[late inlet]

So this maybe the only change to get Scott