🏆-event-chat

[vagrant iron]

That just sucks. About my only satisfaction was killing a cube four times bigger

There is a 50 out there with a 770m protector.

I have seen him twice

[lost elm]

#💣-arena-feedback message
Check this one from my server early today

[native cave]

It's the skewing of power for ARENA matching

That's how they are exploiting

[vagrant iron]

Ok how is that even ethical? 60s against 40s?

[lost elm]

I don't remember ethics being involved in Star Trek

[native cave]

Scopley'd

[jolly tiger]

Scopely. Doesn't. Care.

[vagrant iron]

Nope. It’s all about keeping their big spenders happy and screw the rest of us

[native cave]

Love playing with levels 5 above me...in completely different G ships

[jolly tiger]

I can at least try to outrun g5 rares, when a 8b cube has speed crew wtf am I supposed to do? Lol

[native cave]

Awesome.....Corvus vs....us G4 players......

Anyway....at least it's free repairs

[smoky spear]

I went against 30b scimitars and 20b cube with us 😬 having only ops 55 highest

[limpid torrent]

Guess the final score 😭

[timber tide]

I’m surprised there’s not already a channel for bad matchups

Ops 50 starts and we had a 3B ship against us

[iron lynx]

The arena matchmaking is trash unless we win then it was fair and we won on skill and perseverance

[neon vale]

#badmatchups @cosmic steeple

[limpid torrent]

haha nice G6s against G4s....thats fun for everyone!

[cobalt chasm]

They won’t care cause their VIP server isn’t complaining about matchups (since they’re the ones winning). Just like incursions vs the 100b or more ships. Super fun 😂

[limpid torrent]

idk why they don't just use the SLB brackets, then at least you dont have super crazy mismatches

[minor furnace]

Have you checked with people on that server for that feedback or are you assuming?

As the people I know on that server have confirmed that they face similar complaints where rank or the “need” for it to give you a match quickly is driving some fairly unpleasant matchups.

[limpid torrent]

our VIP guy is in the upper 60s, I'm assuming most are. mismatches arent a problem for him

[minor furnace]

Rank is one of those ones that I think players are going to need to buckle up for, but the desperation for it to give you a match now this second I think could be dialled back to a few minutes waiting for effectively deteriorating criteria.

Spend more time looking for better matches and slowly loosen the criteria to maybe the full length of five minutes if the only match is 10 ops levels average difference, something like that.

Cos losing and getting losing loot is for a lot of people better than nothing, given the assumption that ranking needs to shift anyway if the bulk of the pain is coming from lower ranked high ops players.

[limpid torrent]

Rank shouldn't be used in matchmaking at all. Rank is just a measure of your past matchmaking luck. It is not a measure of skill

[minor furnace]

They aren’t all upper 60s. I wouldn’t set expectations around one players view.

[minor furnace]

I disagree, because “Ops 50” is a very wide criteria

Ops 50 with a G4R at T7 and some PvP crews vs an Ops 50 with all four epics and all the PvP crews, who’s winning?

Which playstyle is more prevalent?

How often are you going to match up to the Ops 50 with all the epics because rank based matches isn’t a thing before abandoning all hope?

Rank has to be a thing, and more so over ops which I’ll let @fiery compass demonstrate more practically.

[limpid torrent]

if they have all 4 epics they probably have no idea what they are doing. very inefficient way to play. I bet theyd lose

[minor furnace]

Inefficient except when someone drops a feature like this.

[limpid torrent]

3 epics set you back like 5 ops levels, bad player is bad

[fiery compass]

I was stung
it's hard to gauge effectiveness

also these
#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[minor furnace]

But you, being “super efficient”, would get absolutely battered by them.

[limpid torrent]

same ship = fair fight, fun, crews and skill make a difference. now pit those 56 rare ships against the 60 epics and tell me the 56 has a chance

[minor furnace]

You need ranking to save you from matching the same ops level but a camper.

[minor furnace]

I can do that, moment caller.

[fiery compass]

did you see the message I linked?
but also here have one from incursions
#969176337698926632 message

[worldly dune]

I have seen many who killed g5 epics with a g5 rare

You can even search for screenshots in this very discord

[cobalt chasm]

I’m guessing you’re on there as everyone else’s post to the contrary view is dismissed 😂 and yes. Not all VIP members are currently 60+ as it’s based on spending and some players are new and spending a lot. However looking at current VIP ppl in my alliance. They aren’t having issues or just don’t care enough as they buy most of what they need anyway

[minor furnace]

No, but I do not make the assumption that they do not have the complaints.

[limpid torrent]

oh ok, I thought people were upset that G6s were crushing G4s and G5s but I guess since there are some screenshots of battle wins then I guess matchmaking is working great and everyone is happy

[minor furnace]

I know they do because the people that volunteer here, some of them volunteer there.

[minor furnace]

Hey look, the run book is playing - the goalposts are shifting!

Same thing every time, “it’s not possible, they’ll get beaten” show them not getting beaten “well then it’s fine and everyone is happy”…

Nobody is saying that there aren’t issues.

[limpid torrent]

You seriously changed my mind. Arenas are awesome. Great job scopely

Dont change a thing

[minor furnace]

What some of us are saying is that rank is important too, and unfortunately having hit it hard and with more or different people engaging in it, the ranking is having a factor on people’s match ups.

People who didn’t do much before but are high levels are on their way up, meeting people who hit it hard early on and are on their way back down.

Is that fun? No, I think there are things that can be done to try and mitigate some of that, I still think there’s a bit too much priority on a quick match versus a good match, and there’s probably a bit too much wiggle room on what might be considered a “good match”, but that’s not the same thing as saying it’s broken or saying it’s all fine.

[limpid torrent]

I'm ranked in the top 10. 90% of my wins have been against teams with only access to lower grade ship than me. 90% of my losses have been to teams with access to stronger grade ships than me. The most fun battles I have had were against teams with access to same grade ships.

[minor furnace]

And yet there are screenshots of battles between high 50s against level locked 50s getting absolutely traumatised by those Lv50s.

🤷🏻‍♂️

[limpid torrent]

If you want skill to matter, you have to have a level playing field. Ops based matchmaking is how to do it. Then you can add rank based when rank can actually be determined by skill instead of ops.

[minor furnace]

Rank is always going to be influenced by ops.

Access to key research, all that sort of thing.

[cobalt chasm]

Cause you bought stuff. Like the Tantalus FT and leveled it up? Pay to win still exists and any ops level

[minor furnace]

That doesn’t mean it needs to be the kingmaker as you suggest, that’s why ranking is important is what I’m saying.

[minor furnace]

Good argument for ranking there.

[limpid torrent]

if you really want skill based matchmaking, use $ spent for matchmaking. otherwise ops is the best youre gonna get

[cobalt chasm]

Naw. Matching based on power and brackets for g4 g5 g6 etc. As you said. Longer queues but better matches

[minor furnace]

We’re going to have to agree to disagree, because I’ve shared, linked and pointed out several examples where using ops is why people are running around crying that there was someone two ops levels higher in their match.

[cobalt chasm]

Doesn’t matter what you did last week or earlier in the day. New squad..new dynamics for matches

[minor furnace]

People’s playstyles have come back to haunt them and they wanted the benefits but not the drawbacks. I know I’m a pretty terrible Lv39, but I also don’t care if my ships explode.

[limpid torrent]

no one cries about the SLB brackets because they work, idk why not use those in matchmaking

[minor furnace]

That’s my take and the more people squeal about how ops is the be all and end all for this the more I believe my point is made - so I’m gonna bid y’all a good day.

[minor furnace]

You’ve clearly never seen the incursions feedback channel 🤣

[worldly dune]

I beg to differ...

[minor furnace]

People cry about those ops brackets against servers with whales in “their” brackets all day long.

[limpid torrent]

people still play incursions? its just a server wide bubble check lag fest. the exos are the only good part of incursions

[worldly dune]

Well.. This one is just a broken record. Time to move on.

[minor furnace]

Scopely get told to find something better than ops, they find something better than ops and now everyone wants ops back again 😂

Have a good one folks.

[cobalt chasm]

They never did ops with arenas. So…

And I still wouldn’t. Needs more than 1 thing.

[nimble token]

Did anyone not score in the trailblazer event yesterday due to maintenance? Several from my server and my alliance who's territory fell the same time as the maintenance are being left short of completing the event and even after doing this event several times now we're being told that leaving ships in the system before the event won't score the points anyway 🤷🏻 well they have in the past and I'm sure they will continue to do so, Where are our points

[normal osprey]

This game requires 0 "skill"

[minor furnace]

Hey; so, for reasons unbeknownst to me support screenshots aren’t allowed here so you’re probably best removing that; I don’t think it changes your question either way.

Personally I’ve gotten away with ships being in system before the takeover, that’s my experience.

[nimble token]

Probably don't want to see what sort of poor responses they give

[limpid torrent]

I'll admit the skill ceiling is very low, but there is some skill required. For instance most people dont know how to join an armada when its below 10 seconds

[normal osprey]

"Skill" and game knowledge are different things. A lot of people don't know how some of the basic maths works in game, knowing how it does work doesn't make you "skilled" just means you're more knowledgeable.

Clicking triangles and opening your wallet doesn't equate to "skill".

[limpid torrent]

yeah I guess if you dont have to aim then its not a skill based game 🤷‍♂️

[worthy plaza]

no amount of "skill" is gonna make my 250m uncommon win vs the 5-10b+ cubes I've been facing in half of the matchups. The only way for very ops rank disadvantaged players to win is if they pay huge cash to buy overpowering things like some primes and forbiddten tech. That's a nonstarter of a balance argument. If they insist on these huge disparity in ship power, they should force a handicap like they do in sports like golf and etc.

[normal osprey]

Even when you have 2 nearly identical ships with the exact same crew. There's 0 skill. It's just rng, luck and 🐂💩

[worthy plaza]

Instead what they're doing is just killing player interest in this mode. There's tons and tons of my alliance mates who are giving up on bothering with arenas and at most are just afking it. Only about 1/3 at best of people are still trying to play.

[minor furnace]

But what is your solution?

Ops alone isn’t fair as you can buy all those things and get beaten at the same level

Rank isn’t fair because you’ve got to lose matches as well as win matches.

Y’all got participation trophies in this, I honestly don’t understand short of winning every fight which is patently ridiculous what they think will happen?

[worthy plaza]

Some ideas, limit ships allowed to deploy based on tier. There should not be g6 epics flying around when opposing team only has g5 unc. Nerf effect of certain pvp primes and forbidden tech OR factor those in instead of rank

[worthy plaza]

I had 9 matchups in a row against teams with 63-69 players as a 55. I won zero of those. That's far from "winning every fight"

[minor furnace]

@fiery compass you still here?

Want to show the power of a box fresh Augur for you?

[normal osprey]

Naked ships only. Remove all research,Artifacts, building buffs and FTs. Have it all come down to crews and ships.

[worthy plaza]

It's still better than facing a 10billion power cube

[limpid torrent]

The most fun matches were when all players were between 52 and 59. Add a single level 60 into that mix and it becomes a blowout.

[worthy plaza]

I mean have you even played arena HD?

[minor furnace]

It isn’t, because there’s nothing I can do to even scratch CD’s box fresh Augur with my T8 one.

[minor furnace]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

Except these ones, right?

[worthy plaza]

There's a huge world of difference when you're facing 10b vs 250m. Ship power is extremely exponential.

[minor furnace]

You know I know that

[worthy plaza]

Why don't you actually play some arena first before you go around telling everyone how it is? Lol

[minor furnace]

But it doesn’t change that ops appropriate research makes such a massive difference to ship power that saying “make them use the same grade of ship and same tier will help”

[limpid torrent]

are you arguing that adding a G6 player in with a bunch of ops 50s makes thing more fair and more fun? what are you smoking dude?

[worthy plaza]

Lol, you're crying over 10m vs 12m augurs???? That's nothing

[minor furnace]

Why don’t you stop gate keeping and telling people who have different experience to you what their experience was? 👀

[fiery compass]

the comment being made is that a 60 does not an automatic blowout make

[worthy plaza]

Because you don't have ANY experience with it!

[ember igloo]

if you take that ops + rank are working correctly, giving a base ranking base on op lv to all player should help the matchmaking ? i.e. 40 get bronze, 50 silver, etc. start from that and player will raise or fall to their real place and you should see less 50 vs 65 match ?

[minor furnace]

I beg to differ

[worthy plaza]

You can't even play arenas and you think you know what you're talking about.

[fiery compass]

I also think HD knows what he's talking about

[minor furnace]

You don’t even know if I’ve played arenas and think you know what I’m talking about 😂

[worthy plaza]

You just said earlier you're 39 which can't play

[limpid torrent]

I guess not automatic. But an ops 60+ 2 properly crewed ships will beat most of what any ops 50-59 has

[minor furnace]

Yes, HarmoniousDeath is Ops39

🤷🏻‍♂️

[worthy plaza]

So play a few weeks worth of arenas and then come back and say how fun it is

[normal osprey]

Seen a few situations of very powerful G5 rares killing G6 UCs. Both being crewed for PvP.

[minor furnace]

I have played them 😂

Gatekeeping is ugly anyway, especially when the argument is about game mechanics that aren’t even exclusive to arenas.

[normal osprey]

Have also seen people with G5 epics killing G6 rares.

[worthy plaza]

We are talking about arena experience and how poor matchmaking affects it. If you can't even participate in it, it's a valid gatekeep since you don't know what it's like

[limpid torrent]

Its going to happen sometimes, but its gonna be more fun for everyone if its G5 vs G5

[minor furnace]

The very same problems are universal PvP problems in STFC, here it’s just with different people and a much broader set of people than incursions, where, for example your servers are (and I use the word lightly) “matched”.

[normal osprey]

Until the ops 51s come here and complain they're getting stomped by lvl60s since they're all in G5.

Same as ops 40 is G4 but so is Ops 50 and an ops 40 can't do squat to an ops 50 with a G4 Epic.

[minor furnace]

I can’t beat around the bush any more than I already have which tells me you know what I’m saying and you choose to ignore it or you’re so blinded by your own arena losses that you don’t care what anyone says.

[limpid torrent]

Id bracket it like the SLBs and put the ops 60 in G6

[worthy plaza]

There should not be multple ships tier differences in the same battle. At most one tier apart unless they implement a handicap system

[minor furnace]

Bit harsh as Ops 60 can’t build a single G6 ship.

[normal osprey]

But then people complain that G5 epic can't kill G6 ships.

[minor furnace]

That sounds like “I want the brackets to favour me” more than “balance”

[limpid torrent]

Rots are G5 and you will use it well into your mid to high 60s so not really a good argument

[minor furnace]

Anyway, bunch of bad faith arguments looking for ways to have their cake and eat it, they want their rush playstyle but none of the drawbacks.

Have a good day.

[normal osprey]

Except for the fact that there was literally a guy here earlier today complaining that his Rota couldn't kill a G6 cube.

[worthy plaza]

There are tons of examples in this matchmaking of g4!!!! Ships facing g6!!!! Ships. That should never happen in a fair matchmaking

[normal osprey]

The only way they could do it would be to put in brackets dependant on ship availability. But then the brackets would be really really small, and would probably end up with it being very difficult to actually participate at all.

[worthy plaza]

What's the point of fast matchups if one team will just sit there staring at a dock full of destroyed ships for 10 min?

[normal osprey]

Better to play the game and lose but collect the participation rewards than to just not be able to play at all.

[worthy plaza]

That's why I suggest a handicapping or limiting ship type. If the opposing team is most g4 then the g5 and g6 players should only be able to take out g4 ships or have a nerfed g5 come out. Will it make it perfectly fair? Probably not but it's better than what it is tiday

[normal osprey]

Imagine how difficult it would be if they had the brackets like;
40/41
42-45
46-49
50-52
53-55
56-59
Etc etc.

[worthy plaza]

Unless you're trying to get the favors which are league restricted. Like I'm not allowed to lose any more games because then I'll not be able to collect the efficiency favor

[minor furnace]

And then throw in “this person bought the NSEA and whaled it at Ops 50 and can beat snot out of Ops58s”

[normal osprey]

You'd never have the time to find people to play with and if you could you'd then be stuck in match making for the 8hrs the event runs.

[minor furnace]

So many people so focused on how they can twist all of this so their playstyle is the one that wins them matches.

[worthy plaza]

Well that's also a problem that the nsea tiering isn't properly ops locked. You don't see any same complaints about talios

[minor furnace]

So now you want to change a ship to create your win conditions?

[normal osprey]

It's not ops gated, it's wallet gated. Only way an ops 50 can get the NSEA that high is with a fair amount of packs.

[worthy plaza]

You don't think having a 800m power ship in the low 50s makes no sense? You're just reaching now for poor arguments. Lol

[minor furnace]

Jesus Christ, all this to avoid accepting that your early progress is a short lived victory that ranking will balance back out 😂

[worthy plaza]

That's the point. You don't see any complaints about talios being too high power for the ops it's available because it's gated properly. Nsea isnt

[minor furnace]

True, but it is there and it was known.

[worthy plaza]

All this argument from someone who doesn't even participate in the playing of the mode. Lol

[normal osprey]

There's very very few people at ops 50 that will drop the $1000 to bump it upto T10+

[minor furnace]

You keep saying this like it makes your point any more valid or like it’s any less wrong each time.

[worthy plaza]

Oh geez, it was known. Well that solves all the problems now doesn't it when players are fighting hopeless battles. Sorry stranger you're wasting 10 mins of playtime but you should've known!

Your arguments are just awful

[minor furnace]

Your rank is too high. Should they have been preloaded? Probably. Is it the end of the world that you’re coming back down to earth with a bang? Nah.

[worthy plaza]

It was known, that's the dumbest statement I ever heard as an excuse for poor balance. Lol

[minor furnace]

I think the assumption made by Scopely is that people would engage equally and from day one, and that as a result rank wouldn’t matter much because it would be predominantly ops driven.

[worthy plaza]

But it's not wrong.

[normal osprey]

Have seen for some reason a few "whale" groups just throw away a game and force themselves lower in the rankings.

[limpid torrent]

pretty sure that ops 39 is just trolling at this point

[worthy plaza]

It's called smurfing and is a very common tactic in all ladder matchmaking systems.

[minor furnace]

And now as more people start to play, that ranking is becoming more significant and the ops less so, but people who didn’t play are hitting the high ranked comparatively low ops players.

[minor furnace]

But it is.

Or are you physically stalking me?

👀

[worthy plaza]

You said yourself your account can't play arena. So stop trolling.

[minor furnace]

I said my account cannot play. Yes.

I’m waiting at some point for the penny to drop, and the longer it takes the less weight anything you say has. 🤣

[worthy plaza]

Go play a few weeks to get a real feel for it

[normal osprey]

This is when you wish you still had ur G5 account lol

[minor furnace]

@fiery compass can you at least spoiler it 🤣

[worthy plaza]

You're here complaining about not being able to take down a 12m augurs when your 10m augur while real players are facing 10b cubes that are unkillable is laughable

[fiery compass]

sorry!

[limpid torrent]

It appears that your intent is to disrupt any productive feedback in this channel.

[minor furnace]

One - it wouldn’t be 12m; that’s my ship crewed vs theirs on the build screen. Two - it ignores all other variables, like, “how’s your mirror crew, CD?”

[normal osprey]

I've only had 1 super out of whack match so far and they threw it away.
All my other games have been relatively well balanced, I've been playing with ops 45-52 people mixed of mid bronze and high silver ranks.

[worthy plaza]

My team is low 50s and been facing g6 players the entire time besides the first 2 matches. It was just a large pointless waste of time

[normal osprey]

Don't think they'd need. Badgey would get the job done.

[normal osprey]

It's more than likely just going to be a waiting game for all the whales to climb into the whale ranks, it's a lot more painful that it should be due to the limited time arena is open. They should have opened it for a long stretch 3-4 days when it launched so the whales could just push up through the ranks asap.

[minor furnace]

And due to not being preloaded on rank.

[normal osprey]

(Yes some foresight from scopley would have helped, I.E put G6 straight into gold rank.)

[minor furnace]

Sorting everyone by power and then sticking 1-x on them would have meant day three was much better

But bad faith arguments and gatekeeping are very unpleasant.

Especially when - having played arenas - I can confirm that basically all the problems that plague STFC PvP are the problems that plague arenas.

You will face people unfathomably strong for their ops, and you will face people who have hit Ops 50 having done research only when a building wouldn’t let them build without doing one.

You will face people who will have every officer going and all in open order, and you will face people who have the key ones and know how to use them.

And all I can think right now is I’ve lived in this house nearly six years and I still don’t understand why my socks are in my top drawer and my pants in my bottom drawer.

[normal osprey]

Ironically it probably would have been better for the whales if they'd pre-loaded ranks. Arenas feels like it was designed for the whales, so they can fight each other without the ludicrously expensive repair bills.

[minor furnace]

I see it as a feature for all levels, but at the moment the issues with ranking and I believe the “need” for it to match you fast are making it not work as it could.

[normal osprey]

The only thing that interests me from the Terran store is the G4 FKR ship bp credit efficiency. And that only needs a rank of Bronze 1.

[minor furnace]

The problem we have now is there are G4 and early G5 players ranked way above their station and they will see themselves as having been done out of something when their rank normalises

[minor furnace]

I want that too, what with getting to G4 whenever Hammy lets us on my account 🤣

[normal osprey]

Need Bronze 1 and 12k UC Terran credits. Shouldn't take too long provided you play a lot of arenas, if you can max pull the Terran chest everyday it'll only take like 15-20 days.

And with it being a 1 of 1 efficiency it has a very noticeable impact on the credit costs.

[fiery compass]

not the syndicate free claim?

[normal osprey]

I already got that.

And they've been giving out insane amounts of syn rep, so while the 7k daily is nice, when the BP Chucks 150k at you that 7k doesn't seem as important.

Depending on the roi, the premium mirror dust at Silver 4 might be pretty good too.

The G3 fkr efficiency might also be a good shout. Make G3 ships for Scrapping half the credit costs.

[minor furnace]

Yup.

Also important to me

Hence why repeatedly losing as a bad 40 is zero concern to me

[brittle oriole]

did Forbidden favors Lvl 1 and Syndicate Requisition Lvl 1, doing Premium Mirror Dust 1 atm. G6 Innovative Engineering would be awesome, but its unreachable atm until some things develop.

If you do the G3 Ent -> ISS Jelly -> Ent A cycles u might also like G3 and G4 innovative engineering.

[normal osprey]

I like the G4 one cuz it makes it that you can basically get a G4 rare and Epic for the cost of the epic without the reduction.

[brittle oriole]

I need to do some math to see if it pays out for me.

I got about 70 days until I get both FC lorca (bought vindicator for the refinery) and max ship component Efficiency prime (free through Section 31, Ex-Borg G4,G5 Chests).

Within 70 days I should also be able to have Ent-D maxed already. But Ent-D cannot be scrapped yet (stfc.space) so I don't know if the loop will continue for G6.

On the other hand there are lots of spending events where I could use that loop for the milestones...

[normal osprey]

If you plan on buying multiple Ent-A from faction store, you can almost get 3 with the reduction for the price of 2 without the reduction.

[minor furnace]

Scrapping always opens up eventually, it just gets used to drive pack sales in the first year or so.

[worthy plaza]

Or really they should've just made it 90% weighted on ops first and then add rank weighting after

[brittle oriole]

#💬-events-feedback message

Matchmaking has serious basic issues.
This example shows how far it's out of control already.
Such cases should not happen and there should be no excuses.

Rework has to be done and there should be some kind of penalty for smurfers.

With this example it doesn't matter right now if the whales already climbed up or not.

[desert laurel]

There's a world of difference between whales and f2p. Ignoring rank is not the answer.

[desert laurel]

Matches like this are few and far between. It probably happened because team B is of the wrong rank, and they need games played in order to put them where they belong. That team A was the chosen one to fight them is just bad luck for them for being in the same queue, and in the same lower population available options.

There are hundreds of matchups posted on discord that are more even, and cherry picking the outlier, not even your own matches, is unfair to the matchmaker.

[minor furnace]

Cand1e’s feeling brave stepping into the space I vacated 🤣

[normal oar]

OMG! Patch notes drop at the start of maintenance!?! It’s like Christmas!

[idle stump]

Something to read for 5 mins before going back to waiting.

[late inlet]

Socks always go in the top drawer.

[minor furnace]

Well that’s clearly what I thought when I put them in there on moving in day, but ever since I’ve wondered why as my feet are the lowest part of my body and as such my socks should surely be closest to them for efficiency?

[late inlet]

Hide important things under your socks 🧦.....

It's really a top to bottom system. Socks, underwear, T's.

Pants are really the last decision

[minor furnace]

Pants are super important

You can’t wear your toy car map pants everywhere

[brittle oriole]

do you think these matchings should happen? Isn't it easy to bring a control function that sorts those matches out?

you could also integrate a report function to "out-of-control" matches - but this only works if you want to make it better, do some necessary tuning and reduce the potential spread to something where people engage more.

[desert laurel]

Team B needs to move to the top of rankings, where they belong. There are two options:

Pit them against a team like the SS.
Pit them against a similar 70 stack.

The latter yields a negative result: one of the stacks moves up in MMR, and the other down. This goes against the goal of having all the 70 stacks at the top in plat. If this match is all they do, then the 70 stacks aren't moving anywhere, and there's no room for everyone else below them.

So instead, after team A loses, they can match up with some lower team and push them down, or again vs a 70 stack to continue separating that cohort away from the bunched-up bottom ranks. This makes space for players, and in the future, more fair matches.

[brittle oriole]

hmm - sounds good in theory.

Potential risks:

• excessive smurfing: high ops carry low ops to higher ranks, lose some games on purpose and repeat
• players who no longer participate because of imbalanced matches and maybe bad luck aswell
• time it will take until ranks are sorted enough to avoid most of these constellations

Maybe starting ranks could've solved this better and higher ops should have a min rank higher than bronze.

thanks for your explaination

[worthy plaza]

Or tHey could've matched them against other players in the 66-70 range like them with siMilar ship tiers instead of bringing in players with g5 rares

[proper meteor]

Why not limit it to pure ops level? 40-49 50-59 60-70 that way regardless you don’t get a 42 pitted against a 62 regardless of who starts it or the arena ranking.

[worthy plaza]

Similarly, the ranking gain lose points here is awful because it's flat amounts. All ELO based systems will penalize you more or less depending in the matchup odds. It doesn't make Sense to lose the same amount of points against a heavily stacked team as it does for a weak team you shouldvebe won. Heck, they could've made it so both sides gain points even the Loser if the final scoring points are compeitive

[pallid jungle]

Limit it to ops ship range so you are not against faction ships of the next tier

[molten elm]

The matchmaking is always going to be hit and miss until it’s had a chance to balance out. At the moment you still have people who are only just trying it out so aren’t where they would naturally sit.

My bigger issue is the impact of FT in arena and the new version they’ve announced today making the p2w gap bigger.

Would absolutely love if FT wasn’t included in arena but realistically it isn’t going to happen

[storm flame]

Event times are horrible for arena when on a weekday. Least incursions is a 24 hour straight open window.

[molten elm]

So what about an alliance that only has a single g6 player? You’re then pushing that player to have to leave friends to be able to play the game

[worthy plaza]

That's already the case today with alliances tHat have outlier ops players. But having them be included in all situations is also not fair to the 3 other players who will just be destroyed. How is it fair to them? IMO the solution to that is to handicap the higher level so they can say join but only bring in g4 ships or have reduced stats.

[molten elm]

It’s not a given being destroyed. My team of 3 ops 56/57 beat a team with 2x 58 and a 63 yesterday. If you strategise and have a plan it can be done. There’s still an element of crewing and being good at the game that comes into it

[worthy plaza]

Yeah that's a joke. One anecdote doesn't meant anything. I was getting matched as a low 50s team vs teams with 65-67s. It went exactly like how you would expect.

And judging from all the comments, complaints and feedback in this channel, thsts the more common end result

[proper meteor]

They could move for that 1 day to a friendly alliance. I would say make it a server event rather than alliance but then you may get other issues

[desert laurel]

That was one of my examples.

Perhaps a good question is: Are you ok with a high ops-low rank vs low ops-high rank matchup? For me, this is fair enough within the constraints of the game. Their ops are taken into account, and their invisible intangibles (ie. primes, ship control, crewing, etc.) are as well.

And another line: Does queue time matter? If you're willing to accept any queue time to get "the good match?" or if making a lot of matches (some uneven) to get to fairness faster a viable move?

[worthy plaza]

IMO, rank should be extremely lowly weighted. Or better yet, initial pass by ops only and then secondary matching pass of groups from first pass via league. Regarding queue time, I suspect they're over prioritising low times. I'm in APAC with tiny population and almost always it's less than 30s. I rather waste a MiNute or two finding s food matchup then waste 10 min staring at a dock full of dead ships

[molten elm]

How many times did that happen? Do you have screenshots so that we can see examples? I’ve seen it happen that badly before a couple of times but not this week

Ah you’re APAC

[worthy plaza]

It happened 9 times in a row of bring matched up against mid 60s. Every single one I lost

[molten elm]

Did you keep just rejoining?

Or did you disband and wait a while?

[desert laurel]

I think team B is going to be waiting a long time in queue for a match that has to be closer than 63 vs 69 avg.

[versed stirrup]

Does that mean the longer deploying takes, the harder/impossible the match gets?

[worthy plaza]

Disbanded and waited hours after the apac maintenance that took 2+ hrs of the 8 hr window, lol

[molten elm]

The other thing is even if you do come up against the same ops levels you could have a team that all 3 have maxed PvP FT so you’re still going to get pumped for the most part. Matching fairly is going to be near on impossible whatever metric they use

[worthy plaza]

Yeah primes and FT are another issue. But I suspect the ops and ship tier Mismatch is far more common of a problem

[molten elm]

We came up against 2 rotaraans yesterday. Decided to take 2x mantis, a Cerritos and a titan to max fortify our strongest guys 2 ships and beat them. I know that’s not a comparison to what you’re seeing but sometimes the g6 players thing doesn’t mean they’re super strong or good players, they just rolled in thinking that their epics would slap us. Had they have had a 63+, possibly a different story

[idle stump]

Be nice if things like those buffs were free in arena.

[worthy plaza]

In this example, you're all within one ship tier apart. I'm OK with that. But when you're 3 or even 4 ship tiers apart, I think that's too much

[idle stump]

Would add a new level of tactics

[desert laurel]

That would allow more specialization, and punch-up possibilities.

[molten elm]

Yup, and that’s the kind of level matches we’re seeing. There’s the odd anomaly where we’ll come up against 67s but it’s not happening as much

[idle stump]

but then they just mantis you back and it then become pointless exercise agian ha

[worthy plaza]

If there was no RSS cost, it'll be an obvious just super buff every time. And if everyone always has the buff, then it doesn't really help much. If anything it makes stomps worse since strong ships get bigger benefit

[molten elm]

Not if you have good titan research

[idle stump]

and how does one not in the late 50s

[molten elm]

Everyone prioritises different things. Some don’t even know there’s a buff to give extra shots if you’re stung and buffed

[idle stump]

the shot delay is what lets me punch up to 56s (as 50)

[molten elm]

If you’re research is good and your Q building is high you only need to get the first shot off in some cases

[worthy plaza]

The new officers are just pushing more one round Kill battles. So much opportunity for strategy when you die in one hit

A 120% boost to isolytic cascade damage is gonna make Carol crew look like mbenga

[molten elm]

It’s a money business and they know many will buy out of fear of being left behind

[molten elm]

M’benga is elite one man wrecking crew, never doubt him

[torn crescent]

Our match ups weren’t even close unless we had a lower level player initiate the team to limit level of players. If I initiated as an ops 54 we got stomped by 60+ players.

[burnt seal]

We saw the same thing, and our lower 40s seem to be scared of doing it

[hot palm]

Rank shouldn't really matter, OPS and available ships makes much more difference. A low tiered ops63 with a G6 uncommon and cube still slaps the pants off ops55 with g5 unc or even ops59 with g5 rares at reasonable levels. There's always going to be the exception to that rule with a freak 56 with all the primes and maxed sanctus/etc but in general you should ONLY match within the same ship range if you want even/level PVP battles.

[normal osprey]

Another option would be for them to remove the constraints of teams only being alliance members.
Allow single people to join matchmaking and have teams automatically put together based on ops(ship availability).
This would both reduce wait times and level the playing field more with the matches.

[wispy flicker]

Had same problem but higher up. Just recently went from G5 to G6. If I start we get smashed by high level 60 players. Need a G5 player to start for a fair chance.

Even then the ranking screws the matching as have been up against ops 70 players because we have a silver rank in the squad even though they are only G5!

[rare kernel]

Please remove the news icon so we can mash the help button!!!

[spare pollen]

I even watched the video and I can't send helps due to the must-click Video

[tranquil seal]

What crew for new this arc hostile for lvl 29 player with max salad, tried every limited officer I have, still can't defeat single hostile

[idle stump]

you can send helps via the alliance menu - but its long

[spare pollen]

I closed the game a couple times that didn't work be reset local did after I licked on the Video again

[pine solar]

I feel that these new hostiles were designed for ops 38+ players

[rare kernel]

clear local worked for me also

[hoary urchin]

Worked for me but videos button will return 😆

[spare pollen]

Doh!

[plucky ermine]

I throw myself away - you break the helps and launch a help event

[normal osprey]

If only there was another way to access the alliance helps menu.....

[whole sequoia]

first of all, calling Sally "Salad" should be a crime 😄 secondly I'm not sure you can do it, it's meant as ops 40+ content. Best so far for me seems Janeway Doc E-Data, though you could try Pike Moreau E-Data, always Hugh below, or any hostile crew that gives the most damage, as you want to kill these quickly

[plucky ermine]

not being picky, but how is this a day 1 free gift?

[frozen brook]

Because the rest will probably cost you..

[plucky ermine]

still I doubt lvl 16 of that building is available today "as a gift"

[rare kernel]

clear local doesnt work for everyone...pls fix

[versed osprey]

whats that lol, the 100 pack in the shop?

[desert laurel]

It's the super claim all button. If you can use it, it'll make some events easy.

[versed osprey]

ooh

thanks

[rare kernel]

Also...putting that news button on top of the help button was a very bad move!!!! no pay for 1 week for the inventor

[undone garnet]

Think we are getting unity for today's battlepass?

[rare kernel]

its already live, so yep

[austere rover]

Not new events and BP yet on US-17

[grizzled mulch]

I believe they said the path unlock is free, not the mastery

[chilly venture]

I guess the arc manager was feeling that rewards for prévious similar SLBs was too generous ?
Who would think that these for a first place SLBs for pay only was a good thing ?

[spice brook]

Using different names is bound to cause confusion.

[late inlet]

Beside it's called a Salamander.

[cold horizon]

Why cant we get rid of the most annoying video
Button? Thought this update was to have a better experience. Now we cannot give helps directly but need to go through the menus.
Improvement? My *ss!

[ruby saddle]

mine 1000 tritanium, just to frustrate us a little extra xD

[cold horizon]

Mission key hunter is laughable with such lousy rewards. No reason to log in to scopelys site for that

[normal oar]

Unity BP event not fun with the video icon blocking help view

[near helm]

“What an amazing event store” said nobody ever

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-kevin-sorbo-disappointed-mad-sad-gif-19756349

[undone garnet]

I guess I'm not buying the pattlepass this month

[ruby saddle]

oh, choice battlepass. i actually like the concept

[neon crescent]

until you realize you get less this way

[late inlet]

Where is this?

[ruby saddle]

oh. rood

[ruby saddle]

99 dolla

[late inlet]

But I don't have $99 !!!!

[desert laurel]

It's the claim all button in IA. Once you have access to it, it'll ease some events.

[ruby saddle]

ohhhh

so i havent done math but maybe you can finish BB path right away with 50 dolla

[slim yoke]

If anyone is having issues with the video bug currently, trying restarting the game

[normal osprey]

Yes basically everyone. It's been reported and noted and they're "looking into it"

[plain raft]

The 99 one gives ypu IA 32

[warm sorrel]

the video icon is gone after my last restart

[slim yoke]

same here. they must have done something to fix it

[torpid knot]

Where is the new archive building to upgrade it

[versed stirrup]

perma video button instead of alliance helps is very bad while a unity event is running <@&509691205798592532>

[warm sorrel]

going by the news posing it looks like there's supposed to be a Q's Challenges Meta Event and a Q's Heroic Challenge today, does anyone have these?

[carmine raven]

@late inlet wut u mean by that?

[grizzled mulch]

@supple token @cosmic steeple "Q's Heroic Challenge - SMS" for upgrading the Archives is listed on calendar. Don't see it in game. Already (foolishly) upgraded the building. So... how's that gonna work on y'all's end? I'm SOL?
ETA: In-game calendar says Q’s Cannon. In-game event (and store) say Conduit. When is the Cannon?

[pulsar fox]

El-Aurian hostiles??

[indigo crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[warm sorrel]

there's also supposed to be a meta event, for doing these q's challenge events

[grizzled mulch]

Figures

[warm sorrel]

and the conduit was supposed to be november 11-25, so I imagine the cannon will be then instead

[grizzled mulch]

Ah, good catch. Seems reasonable enough

[grizzled mulch]

That is an incredibly high-quality GIF. Out of place in this game 😂

[brazen sandal]

@Anybody know what’s going on with the IOS update? No update at all for my iPhone or iPad, got it for my computer 🖥️

[vale magnet]

Sometimes searching for the app and opening it in the App Store will show the update. I downloaded it earlier today

[brazen sandal]

Oh okay I’ll try that…seems weird but I’ll try it either way haha 🤣

[vale magnet]

Yeh, not sure why, but that's the way I usually get it before it appears in your app update list lol

[brazen sandal]

lol well it work haha 😆 thank you, I’ll have to remember that for next time thanks

[past mauve]

@supple token Where my Treasury at??? 😇

[wide lava]

When is the next Vindicator event I've run out of credits to upgrade it ???

[serene helm]

Thursday

[wide lava]

@serene helm cheers bud 👍

[cosmic steeple]

Raised this!

[potent olive]

No epic recruit/g3 spend events this month?

[scarlet tapir]

and.... event calendar is now gone in-game. Pulled it to edit it?

[light jolt]

How do you acquire chaos tech? Is it $$ only?

[summer harness]

any eta on event calendar?

[late inlet]

200 mission text for FT no one uses

[vague elk]

the ark runner in this round is the most stingy I've ever seen this year. but how can you think that slb rewards are decent? no incentive to even try to get into the top 5, since even in the top they don't pay anything

lol 6k ship parts and <200k synd exp for the first place, ridiculous. This is someone who has never played the game

[jagged sun]

Anyone know of where a level 19 can get chaos mods for the event?

[vague elk]

don't think you can outside the battle pass (second milestone)

[jagged sun]

Battlepass isn't rewarding chaos mods just choice rewards

[jagged sun]

Yeah but I can't use that cause the chaos thing on my ship is locked and I can't unlock it without the chaos mod currency to refine.

And can't get those without these

[vague elk]

you have to kill the hostiles and refine, i have no idea if it's ops locked

[jagged sun]

Yeah that's kinda what I need to know where I can go as a level 19 to hit the hostiles.

[vague elk]

but if you are ops 19 don't even bother with those things, you have other priorities

[rustic spear]

How do you get chos tech fornthe second box in continuum refine?

[serene helm]

You can’t the lowest lvl hostiles are 38

[vague elk]

as ops 19 i advise to go ops 34

[rustic spear]

It says it drops from new hostiles

But dont see it

[rustic spear]

Where do you get this stuff?

says from hostiles or store. I do not this dropped from hostiles

[rustic spear]

I did. And did max refine

Got nothing that helps woth this refine

[serene helm]

Sorry misread

[rustic spear]

I gues when you have it maxed. Theses drop later like teansport patterns?

[warm sorrel]

yeah, if you have a chaos tech already and get more shards for it, you'll get fragments instead

[rustic spear]

Gotcha

Ty

[warm sorrel]

like extra fleet captain shards become dust

[warm sorrel]

milestone 4 and 14 of the BP has chaos tech fusion rods

[flint coyote]

I did a double refine on the chaos stuffs but don't see where to get shards for the new chaos tech. There're not in either the Continuum nor the Forbidden Tech tabs. What am I missing?

[abstract gate]

Money!!!

You need to buy the chaos tech

https://tenor.com/view/chow-yun-fat-a-better-tomorrow-john-woo-burning-money-smoking-gif-23868665

[devout vale]

Is this accessible for F2P? Wondering since it's not an heroic

[flint coyote]

New feature hiding behind a paywall.. Who would of thought?

[versed osprey]

no

you can get the blue one from the paid track, for 20 bucks and upgrade that

but thats about it

[versed stirrup]

Why even bother making milestone 1-3?

[jagged sun]

Not for me...

[versed stirrup]

ops < 42 or so?

[jagged sun]

im only ops 19

but i have access to the refinery so im not sure why i cant get these rods

[stable talon]

The choice rewards r weird u can get 5 star epic a crystal but not 5star epic gas

[whole sequoia]

according to stfc.space, it's been like that for at least last 5 months, but not sure, it supposedly should rotate

[stable talon]

Its new innit fresh today with the battlepass

[whole sequoia]

not sure if it's bugged in stfc.space or in game, cause I vaguely remember only ever getting extra crystal from BP 😄

yes, but the choice rewards mirror what was in BP originally

just instead of the mats, you get currency you exchange for the mats, but the amounts fit

[stable talon]

Just made it ur choice what u get but its biased toward crystal

[whole sequoia]

yes, but it was apparently same last time, always one mat gets double + few epic pieces

[stable talon]

Guess it was a waste of money should of really checked the rewards 1st know nxt time

Shame coulda maxed voyager

Guess its a crystal event use it on sanctus instead

[whole sequoia]

also I can't remember ever getting extra on gas or ore from BP

we'll see next arc 😄

[stable talon]

Prepare for more disappointment lol

[whole sequoia]

always ready for that 😄

[stable talon]

Its a shame as only pack most get is more rewards on battlepass mess that up think alot will stop buying it the rewards were always worth it not so much now unless it changes

We will see

[whole sequoia]

well yes, but this should only improve the rewards, as we are free to choose which we want

should be same amount overall if you spend the tokens correctly

[stable talon]

I dunno in theory but we r so used to getting a downside of changes should be even too only giving 1 mat type include epic isnt really a benefit but hey ho just another let dwn lol anyhow enjoy rest of ur day/night

[coarse lance]

Have they put up a calendar of events for this arc?

[worldly dune]

In-game news, yes.

[coarse lance]

Ugh that in game news is painful on the eyes. They should just make a calendar graphic lol

[worldly dune]

It usually takes a couple of days for people to post it on discord.

[fleet lotus]

Spending schematics to build building doesn't score for the spend schematics slb?

[keen mist]

The rewards aren't special

[lilac musk]

Yep. Not they aren’t even worth anything. 4K uncommon ship parts. They aren’t even the problem in g5 land. It’s the rares 😂

[slow quartz]

Where do we find the el-aurian?

[stone mortar]

<@&509690795536941056> Two questions, both related to the screenshots:

1. Is there an equivalent event coming for players Ops 28-37?
2. Is there only the one Epic Officer auction event this month?

[fiery compass]

left of fed space, below the monaveen systems

[slow quartz]

Trying to find the planet....

[fiery compass]

directly left of sol

[slow quartz]

Went to Amargosa and all those left and no el-aurian...

[tranquil seal]

Need to clear this, only one event for epic q

[fleet lotus]

@fiery compass did i do something wrong or should i open a ticket? Doubt it'll get fixed before slb ends tho #🏆-event-chat message

[fiery compass]

it looks bizarre to me. if it's been more than an hour and you've tried the usual things (restarting, hitting a few hostiles) and it's not fixed itself I'd send a ticket

[ripe jungle]

They’re not called el-aurian as far as I can tell in ship scans but hitting them scores for the event

[ebon mason]

El-aurian is a species-the ships are named as a ship type, not after the species

[cyan folio]

Ok, but where is that info in-game?

[ebon mason]

It’s not-it’s in the Bec video

It’s the species that Q is suspected of interfering with

Iirc

9:49 in the video

@cyan folio

[quasi token]

Treasury when???

[keen mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mjthoon-gif-19056034

[obsidian bluff]

Your building is level 1 still? You used a key to unlock not the schematics which are to upgrade. Upgrade to level 2, should score you 10k points.

[pulsar fox]

The hostiles in Armagosa count as El Aurian

[versed stirrup]

because they are, they just labeled as QC hostiles

[pulsar fox]

Yea... lazy scopely

I checked the points and it aligned so if figured..

[hexed gorge]

So is this the maintenance to fix the first maintenance or is this the maintenance to fix the second maintenance or is this the maintenance to break the game as they failed to break the game with maintenance one and two or is this just a maintenance as they like to put the game into maintenance as much as possible?

[coral niche]

This game has more maintenances than any other game I ever played.

[karmic moon]

does vidar work on new hostiled

hostiles

can someone test please

[serene helm]

Chest only paid out 5 chaos modules

[lilac musk]

Don’t hit battleships and then hit higher

[serene helm]

lol hope you aren’t referring to me

[worthy plaza]

its also the only game where i've seen maintennance make things worse than better

[lilac musk]

Why do you hope not

[versed stirrup]

Why don't use a g4 epic?

[serene helm]

lol was helping the original poster Spock , I have a G4 uc and can easily hit the 40s

[lilac musk]

All I said is don’t hit battleships then hit higher

Out of the 3 hostiles even with the triangle no one should pick the target that applies burning

[versed stirrup]

depends, I think the explorers do with 120% iso damage more damage to you than the burning

[lilac musk]

You can mitigate iso though (officers, artifacts etc). Burning is 1% each round regardless

[dreamy mortar]

Applied at the end of the round. Suppose the hostile does not survive one round 🤔

[versed stirrup]

if you're hitting low enough 🙈

[fair lichen]

How can a level 25 defeat the new hostiles to get pieces of the continuous refinery? I think you didn't take that into account when placing the hostiles when the smallest one is over 5m in power

Why do you put a refinery starting at level 19 when it is impossible to use it until you exceed level 35?

[silent torrent]

Where is continuum space?

[pulsar fox]

Armagosa

[sinful plank]

Anyone else notice that the Smart Speed Ups don't seem to work if you need to spend latinum for some of the speed ups?

[fringe wyvern]

No rss in this battle pass,crystal,gas or ore ?

[icy citrus]

event shop

[sinful plank]

Dabo token style. YOu get the Choice Rewards instead which you get to chose what to use in the Event Store

[bitter snow]

although better payouts than dabo... actually on par with what we would have gotten in a regular month

normally anything choice wise comes with a massive cut in value (because choice has value of its own... supposedly 😄 )

[bitter snow]

I think that's by design, so it doesn't automatically start eating your lat if you're short of real speedups

[bitter snow]

el'aurians are to the left of fed space, a little north of megacube systems

zigzags

[split crescent]

Friends don't let friends build g4 epics

[versed stirrup]

sorry I mean g3 like enterprise 😂

[odd mortar]

Anyone having problems with chaos modules? When I tested killing assimilated ships in Amargosa yesterday, I got them, but today I'm getting nothing from ship kills.

[warm sorrel]

could you be at your hostile limit?

[odd mortar]

Now that you mention it, that's probably it. Thanks.

[late inlet]

Rewards from today's events outdated FT?

[loud belfry]

Mine data, have I jumped into a time warp and back to 2020…FML! content is utter cràp and don’t get me started on how ridiculous those rewards are…

[normal osprey]

Or......you could just choose to not do the event.

[loud belfry]

100% but doesn’t make it right, that they actually think that this is a good event for those rewards 🤷‍♂️

[normal osprey]

Minimal effort = minimal rewards.

The event took like 5 minutes.

[warm sorrel]

spoilers, we get this event 3 more times

[loud belfry]

On paper maybe, in reality sitting and moving a miner ever 2 secs, isn’t my idea of minimal effort, plus the one system that has the big mines and guess what, whole server goes in

[sharp raft]

It's like we went back in time 3 or 4 years, mining data 😆

[normal osprey]

It's a lot less effort than 2 month long armada slb.

Moving a ship off a node is minimal effort. If you don't like it then just don't do the event.

[loud belfry]

Missing the point…needs better content than going back 4 years to mine data…Armada was good, tons of rewards, stock pile daily pulls…kinda disagree on that one

[normal osprey]

Point....rewards sucks.....other point event requirements are brain dead takes literally 0 effort to do the event.
Rewards match up with the amount of time and effort the event requires.

If you don't like the rewards and don't want to spend the 5 minutes it takes to do the event then just don't do the event. They're not forcing you to do the event or even play the game for that matter.

[sharp raft]

With the exception of the complete new missions, where it takes lots of time and the rewards are terrible this arc.

[mental arch]

The point of the event is to coincide with the archive. In a week you’ll have the archive to the necessary level to master Botany Bay track and can complete the event with one click. It’s going back 4 years to celebrate the fact they’re starting to truly close loops

[normal oar]

@cosmic steeple Is there a special material spending event on the horizon? (Emblems of Honor, Quantum Communicators, Subspace Keys, etc...)

[jovial musk]

Will a November event calendar and graphic be released soon?

[dreamy mortar]

Calendard

(courtesy of DwDViper who warned us very clearly subject to change/has changed)

It'll get ya started though 👍

[warm sorrel]

before you spread that to much, events have already changed

[shrewd egret]

Really!!! A botany Bay event!! Open up augment space with more mining spaces or you just ####

Could you be any more shortsighted???

[potent olive]

Do we know when the next treasury will be?

[naive meteor]

When player's are asleep..

[languid kayak]

Looking at the calendar, looks like Saturday begins the "Starfleet Q" material spend SLB.

[dreamy mortar]

Hense the majority of my reply being a disclaimer saying just that

[normal osprey]

Reading is hard.

[pastel dome]

Mining data is lame, but i feel the final archive lvl for the botany is pretty good. Daily khan shards are always good and the data can be used for exchange armada directives

Its gotten done way too late though. And nothing for the exchange stuff?

[molten glade]

is there a redeem code for this arc?

[normal osprey]

QSurprise

[molten glade]

hmmm it didnt work

[normal osprey]

Are you ops 10+ and did you double check spelling?

[molten glade]

yea.. i am 55 and i did a copy paste and it worked

[normal osprey]

🤷‍♂️

[spare pollen]

Could we please have a set time for the WarRoom? I see the one for Arena, and it's been out for a much shorter time. Plus, the WarRoom has been cancelled many times, so I and many others have no chance to grow the building.

This is all I see

[empty bear]

Is there going to another Grabthars Hammer available soon?

[smoky spear]

Just buy the new prime 😂 ( is what they are saying ) gives u 1500 of the atuff u need to upgrade the building

No idea what happened to "we will be running war room every other week "

[spare pollen]

I think it has been 3 times in 3 months or around that so... Yeah 2 months later they offered the Prime so Yeah I know they want us to buy it but........

[dreamy crown]

@cosmic steeple links are not working eg armada locations

[smoky spear]

Last arc we had so many offcier slb now only 1 so suspicious 😅

[wind fog]

Yes, links are not working but if you keep trying, it eventually takes you to the correct location

[lusty apex]

I feel like this has been discussed before, but do we know how they rank events when multiple people have the same score? I get to 1st, then 10 minutes later 4 other people match my score with some above me and some below.

[narrow violet]

Its always different, sometimes its first to score, sometimes its last to score. However i believe if you contact CS you can ask them for the rewards (for example rank 1 and 2 same score and your rank 2 you can request rank 1 rewards) Chances of CS responding and giving you it though 🤷‍♀️

[covert harness]

so when are alliance tournaments coming back?

[lusty apex]

I was afraid it was something like that. Seems like too much work to make it anything that makes sense. Fortunately the person who ended up matching with me with 30 min to go decided to jump up 100k points so it didn't matter today

[narrow violet]

well in some events thats why they have a metric for hostiles "like kill 1 hostile for 1 point" this is best way to prevent same scores

ha 😄 yeh you gotta watch out for event snipers, they tend to wait till 5 mins left or less on event to score

[smoky spear]

No news atleast not this month dec maybe

[covert harness]

it’s just i have all these isolytic artifact tokens saved….

premium ones, too

[smoky spear]

Thats a lot man 😅 and task might change as well

[iron lynx]

They will all be worthless for events soon. Just like upgrading the original artifacts was on the last slb. Use them now imo you are just holding yourself back from buffs you can use now

[covert harness]

if y’all convince me to spend 350k isolytic tokens now and it’s a 10k task next tournament…..

[drowsy schooner]

Why we have ever again this stupid Hirogen Hunt events. We don't have enough respawning Hiorgen hostile ships for this.
Please change it to hirogen and lost or increase thereapawn rate

[minor isle]

Wym? There are entire systems with nothing but hirogen elites.

[bitter snow]

Depending on bracketing, ops and voyager ownership... Even the 35s can be a pain

[warm sorrel]

low 30s, a second ship to kill lost so more ships spawn faster is effective

[bitter snow]

Or play on a server with no people, that's working for me on 404 😬

[warm sorrel]

something oddly appropriate about 404 and killing lost/hirogen

[bitter snow]

😂

[manic schooner]

If I clear out (buy) all the remaining items in the Augment faction store, will the Augment tab be removed once it's empty?

[mighty condor]

no it will just be blank

[manic schooner]

hmmm.. it should just be archived permanently.

[ornate nacelle]

I know it's late, but hoping someone with some more high level info can confirm if the nanoprobe boosts from the two vidar archives apply only to the ship in question, or if they apply to all ships like some of the botany archive bonuses do

[frozen abyss]

@desert laurel today's event is Cardassian Hostile Hunt for 15k points, not Unity for 17.5k points

[desert laurel]

Thanks, read the wrong thing.

[sinful sluice]

do these go away when we master the talios / vidar archives

[frozen abyss]

Side note: I hate the Cardassian BP event.

[frozen abyss]

Solo armada bundles don't, I think, but everything else will.

[sinful sluice]

because the texas shipyard exchange one went away ..

[frozen abyss]

The contents of the mastery bundles include everything in all of the other bundles, including Ferengi Trader and Expansion Cube contents. It does not contain the solo armada chest rewards

Monaveen mastery does contain the rewards from the Automated Shipyard Exchange, though, which is why the bundle went away in the refinery.

The 5* materials here are from the Automated Shipyard exchange, and you get this every day instead of every 3 days, so you actually end up with more overall. It retains the existing "random chance" portion of the bundle.

[sinful sluice]

yeah seen that.. voyager one seems to be much more worse...

[frozen abyss]

Side note, I lost 100 event store loot last night attempting to claim a bundle and never got the contents of the bundle, so I had to submit a ticket and am hoping they can review the logs to see that it deducted the 100 tokens and didn't reward me with the corresponding bundle.

[frozen abyss]

Why is that? It takes all of the loot exchange bundles and gives you a daily free claim, leaving just the warp drive and commerce bundles in the refinery, so you'll end up getting a lot more rewards from the Voyager Mastery than you get on average from the refinery claims.

[sinful sluice]

well the draw odds of the artefacts is much worse.. everything is a chance right

[frozen abyss]

You still get the same chances as you would have gotten from the refinery

but I believe it's single pulls daily instead of max pulls every 3-5 days

They also account for research and primes that add artifact pulls to the bundles

[sinful sluice]

but the no of rolls arent shown.. i have one of the primes which increased the no of rolls.. now dont see any percentages or rolls

[frozen abyss]

So that's just a display issue, then, where they don't have an info button telling you your personal bundle claim roll count and chances. I think that's a feature request for that info button to be added at this point.

[sinful sluice]

i am okay with them sharing this info somewhere even in a patch note

confirm that the odds and rolls will change if say i get the second prime as well..

[grizzled mulch]

@supple token is there any update on the IA bundle not scoring on Q’s Simple Challenge this time?

[frozen abyss]

Q's Simple CHallenge today is for the Voyager, so did you claim the Voyager IA bundle?

[grizzled mulch]

Ah, no, I didn’t. It didn’t specify, so I took it to mean any IA bundle. Well, that’s unsurprisingly lame. So much for “simple”

[frozen abyss]

It was something like 15 kills of the Hirogen in the Voyager systems

[grizzled mulch]

Yeah, I didn’t see the 4x bonus, so at least I can knock that out easy. Typical Scopely design 🤦‍♂️

[proud wing]

It used to be fun, when Ops 50 or lower, after that, it’s horrific. Needs either more high end systems, higher hostiles and armadas, both or lower milestones/higher points to match with the availability of targets.

[grizzled mulch]

If you’ve got the directives (or others do), 1 epic & 1 rare complete it (lvl 50)

[frozen abyss]

I did mine with 3 rares.

[proud wing]

Yea, getting a free armada at 50 isn’t easy, at least not for the first few hours on my server, plus it requires directives that i don’t want to waste in low level armadas

[next tangle]

Is it just me, or is this the worst event store ever?

[cinder lagoon]

I am trying to finish the Q’sSimple Challenge. It says you score with hostiles with a bonus for Hirogen. Hirogen are the only thing that scores! I have been working on this for an hour and I don’t think I can finish due to lack of Hirogen!

[icy citrus]

saw it now... is that a bad joke? lv50+ pvp? what chance have a lv 50 vs 60+ player? i can tell before the event starts... 0 in words zero chance!... who is meaning that was a good idea hasnt any clue from this game

[rustic pivot]

Didn’t Apex Hunter score higher on these? Having to kill close to 40 40s to finish the sms … that’s not right, is it?

[versed osprey]

Its a galaxy wide pvp event or system specific for just the talios, but you'll probably also get points for losing

so either just avoid the 60 players

or just get killed a couple times

[serene helm]

Gonna end in tears 🤣

[cinder lagoon]

I don’t like being forced into PvP! Not everyone likes it or is interested in participating. But when the powers that be open it up for the whole galaxy they are forcing you to participate or go away for a day and lose out on other missions you ARE interested in. I almost left when they did this before. I was lvl 37 then the first person to hit me was lvl 39. The second was lvl 52. The third was lvl 49. How can anyone think that is fun for the lower lvls? And you were NOT getting points for being attacked.

[empty ivy]

You're getting 500 points every time you lose a fight

[languid kayak]

Is the Talios considered a "Vidar" for the PvP event scoring. The description for scoring just says Vidar. Seems surprising at higher levels.

[empty ivy]

only the vidar scores bonus points in the specific systems against OTHER vidars only

win or lose

[languid kayak]

Thanks... well that's dumb, Lol. So Scopely wants me to fly into that system at level 46 with my 5.5 M power Vidar and get obliterated by any old D4/Enty/Augur, since they also give some points for winning with those. That's about the dumbest PvP scoring metric they have introduced to date.

[empty ivy]

You can just fly around and look for floating warships. its not tied to just the vidar systems

[languid kayak]

My point is, why have Vidar specific scoring at all, if most peoples regular ships are WAY stronger and still give points? Going to fly in with a Vidar and see what's what but will probably end up coming back with a Kelvin after I get poofed. 😂

[mild granite]

boy, scopely sure knows how to botch an event... a vidar event that everyone brings non-vidars to blow up vidars because you get easy points

[scenic cloud]

It was a easy event

[blazing furnace]

Last month was a great month for events, this one is a snoozer 😴 💤

[rose cave]

Or oposite, they bring wrong ships to smartass you, attack and die 😅

[warm sorrel]

I like to use a vemet crew for these, so I can get credit for two or three deaths with one repair

[solid star]

Whats the point of a designated pvp system and then make it open🤷‍♂️😡 the stupidity is beyond with this bunch

[slow wave]

How do we get Q cannon? Is it a pay thing only?

[real tusk]

for now yes

[slow wave]

Darn, thank you

Also was there a new redeem code? I thought I saw something about one but now I can't find it.

[real tusk]

QSURPRISE

[real tusk]

the other one you might have ment? #🤝-help-each-other message

[slow wave]

Thank you again and probably

[river steppe]

I'm hoping this gets changed. I was looking forward to bb on bb crime
Lower ship pvp is much more fun. Comes down to research, crews etc.. Too easy to cheese these out pointing like this. Some of ours just flew around blasting floaters, took mains in to the pvp system and blew everyone up. Took all the fun away

[versed stirrup]

@pseudo rune Do we get a wave pass this arc?

[sleek stream]

Anyone else getting a bug when u try to do a mission and click the locate button it just takes you to your base?

[opal mantle]

There is something wrong with the system finder in bookmarks, battle logs, AC etc so I’m not surprised you’re having issues. I believe it’s a know issue

[digital crane]

Today's battlepass event is only 2,300 points given. Is that correct? All the other milestones have been 12k-17.5k.

[fleet lotus]

17.5k

[digital crane]

Nevermind I'm blind and counted the wrong thing.

[barren bramble]

Is the jellyfish brawl weekly?

[narrow fable]

@desert laurel Sorry if this has been asked already - and I know you don’t work for Scopely but I didn’t know who else to tag. What’s going on with the in-game calendar? It isn’t broken down into categories, there’s only 1/3 of the ticketed events, only 1 recruit event… that’s just at a glance. It seems like there’s a lot missing and it’s really hard to follow without the categorisation.

[naive meteor]

The Vid'ar is a cheaper ship to repair than the Whales ship's and gives lower level player's
An equal footing

[late inlet]

I think it's twice a month

[narrow fable]

No, once or twice per battlepass at most. Some months we get 2 jelly brawls and 1 para bellum, some 1 of each. Once in a blue moon we might get 2 para bellums and 1 jelly brawl but it’s rare.

[flint canopy]

Is there only one officer SLB this month?

[coarse herald]

For para bellum and ISS Jellyfish Pursuit, I see the events should have occurred in October but I'm pretty sure I didn't see them on 703. I've seen para bellum once and never have seen pursuit. Is stfc.space correct and they occurred but just not on some servers?

[proud wing]

they definitely occurred in October

[grizzled mulch]

VERY unlikely. The real question is what officer will be available for the next two.

[patent flume]

Take a guess? Q or Q or Q ? 🤣

[stable talon]

Anybody got a bug where augment store is only 2 things

I know its been a while since i looked but sure there was more

[hexed gorge]

Not a bug

[strange vault]

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

[brazen sandal]

Not sure where or if this is where you complain or make a suggestion. But the the rewards for this current battlepass/arc is absolutely stupid, not impressed with it by any means. I am all for the new things, building, chaos tech, etc But the rewards offered in past arcs/battle passes is what I look forward to, it’s what allows me to upgrade and research, can’t do much of any of that now…

[wide sonnet]

So you don't like the ability to choose the material you need for your upgrades and rather just get the normal ore/gas/cristal as usual?

This Arc brought so many amazing features.

[brazen sandal]

It’s the fact that you get considerably less in material (For me anyways, I don’t how it is for others. I won’t speak to that.) By the end of the arcs I usually have well over a few thousand. By the end, I’ll be lucky to have 1.5k. I more so talking about the battle pass. Not the other side events, those I feel haven’t changed which is great.

[narrow violet]

Mastery of any ship in IA removes all the old claims and moves them to IA.

[stable talon]

Cheers figured it had summet to do with that thing

[warm sorrel]

is it a fact taht its less? looking at it for ops 32, the amount appears to be the same (https://stfc.space/events/2024-10-27/5f648163d13007cdf042fd32bb3b6ef72d917dac/eyJzbmFwc2hvdHNEYXRlcyI6WyIyMDI0LTEwLTI3IiwiMjAyNC0xMC0yNiIsIjIwMjQtMTAtMjUiLCIyMDI0LTEwLTI0IiwiMjAyNC0xMC0yMyIsIjIwMjQtMTAtMjIiLCIyMDI0LTEwLTIxIiwiMjAyNC0xMC0yMCIsIjIwMjQtMTAtMTkiLCIyMDI0LTEwLTE4IiwiMjAyNC0xMC0xNyIsIjIwMjQtMTAtMTYiLCIyMDI0LTEwLTE1IiwiMjAyNC0xMC0xNCIsIjIwMjQtMTAtMTMiLCIyMDI0LTEwLTEyIiwiMjAyNC0xMC0xMSIsIjIwMjQtMTAtMTAiLCIyMDI0LTEwLTA5IiwiMjAyNC0xMC0wOCJdfQ==?e=$s$0$min:32%26max:35 vs https://stfc.space/events/2024-11-09/5c46853e85554d244e1591ee35e08d37047daac0/eyJzbmFwc2hvdHNEYXRlcyI6WyIyMDI0LTExLTA5IiwiMjAyNC0xMS0wOCIsIjIwMjQtMTEtMDciLCIyMDI0LTExLTA2Il19?e=$s$0$min:32%26max:35) for the few I've checked

[brazen sandal]

I mean in total. For Uncommon Gas, crystal and ore. By the end I had well over 2k per material. This one I’ll be lucky to get 1k maybe 1200. Keep in mind I am a F2P player/user

[warm sorrel]

if each milestone gives enough to exchange for about the same amount of uncommons, then the total will also be about the same

the links are the free track

[ripe jungle]

The tokens for some reason are shown half and half. Eg the last milestone is 490 tokens, not 245.

[warm sorrel]

at ops 32 its what, 2,080 tokens on the free track? which is 6500 uncommon crystal or gas

[ripe jungle]

It’s 2080 for everyone (on the free track)

Just the amount they exchange to changes with ops

[brazen sandal]

Well I will say thisI’m not the only one that isn’t happy. Have a few higher up players on my sever in my alliance. Ops 46 and 47. And they aren’t pleased with it easier. 🤷‍♂️ they haven’t been able to do anything with their ships with this new arc. They much preferred the old version of the arcs. I know my opinion won’t go far being a F2P player.

[warm sorrel]

have they actually done the math, or are they just assuming they are getting less like you were?

[ripe jungle]

How much ore is in each ore chest for you? Everyone should have identical materials to what they got last month if they convert each milestone to what it used to be

[brazen sandal]

No they’ve done the math. They just are frustrated with it. But nothing we can do it about.

[warm sorrel]

why would they be frustrated for the same amount of resources but in the kind they need?

[normal osprey]

They scale as you ops up which is really nice.

[brazen sandal]

And depends on which chest big the big one 300 ish.

[warm sorrel]

my ore chest is oddly lighter than my crystal and ore, 19 uncommon vs 31

[normal osprey]

The chest are identical for cost/rewards.

[ripe jungle]

There’s some rounding differences

[warm sorrel]

but ore is the one I need least

[ripe jungle]

So the last milestone would convert into 1470 ore for you

What ops are you?

[brazen sandal]

Well we shall see. I’ll have to do some more math on what im actually getting compared to the last arc. And I am ops 35

[ripe jungle]

So last month should have been 931 in that milestone

[brazen sandal]

You talking about the milestone for today?

[ripe jungle]

You should try to push 36 if you can before converting. That will probably make your chest go up a lot

No, the last battlepass milestone 19

Do you actually have 300 or 200 in your ore chest right now

[brazen sandal]

Per big chest pull is only 321 ore/crystal/gas depending on which one I pull

[ripe jungle]

Hm maybe they changed the bracketing ? 321 would have been what 36-39 bracket got last month

[brazen sandal]

Yeah that’s what everyone’s been saying but I like to get all buildings/research done before opsing up. But also trying to work on my g3 epic ships and g3 rare miners

[brazen sandal]

What do you mean? I thought you were ops 32?

[ripe jungle]

Well if your chest is already 321 ore it’s probably not going to change

[ripe jungle]

Not me. I’m looking at the event page to see what the various brackets got,

[brazen sandal]

Yeah 321 for ore, crystal and gas. Ohhh okay 👌

[ripe jungle]

Dinwitt is 32 and they get 19 which matches their battlepass payout last month, but you’re actually getting substantially more, as much as the next bracket up got

[brazen sandal]

I’ll have to do some complete math, only did some surface level math to see the whole picture.

Just as it sits right now from where I am I feel like I’m getting less value, but maybe as we progress through the arc I’ll see it as different, but right now I’m only seeing a small portion. I do see your point though, so I’m not dismissing it by any means

[warm sorrel]

I think you're just comparing the start of the arc milestones with what you remember of the end of the arc, all of the battlepasses ramp up the milestones over time

[brazen sandal]

That might be just cause that’s fresh on my mind and what I remember the best as of this moment

[ripe jungle]

What they have done is taken each battlepass milestone that paid out rss/materials and turned into a number of tokens. So you can exchange for whichever material you want. If you convert into the material that’s usually in that milestone you will get exactly what you normally get bar any rounding differences.

[brazen sandal]

Dinwitt, is probably right with what I remember and what’s actually happening. So it’ll probably change when we get closer to the end of the arc/BP in terms of what I’m seeing vs thinking.

[languid nova]

does Choice Reward have timer after every claim? cuz I haven't exchanged any

[wide sonnet]

No timer, you can trade in all the tokens you have into the material you need the most.

This is the real VALUE! No more waiting on next arc to get the gas for upgrades for example. People need to try it out first before complaining on changes.

It's bad already working to get all the rare ship components for ship upgrades.

[late inlet]

I don't think we get the same amount

[icy citrus]

hm no forbidden tech Event this Battlepass? or has scoplay dont sheduled it because they want that we buy packages?

[proud wing]

It’s all Chaos Tech this arc, but never know, might get a surprise Forbidden Tech event

[spare pollen]

#🏆-event-chat message

[wide sonnet]

I think the reason war room doesn't have a timer is because it's tied up with incursions, don't think they will put a timer for an event run once or twice( with luck) per month

[spare pollen]

Then it sounds like once a month and that is maybe the worst sourcing for any building and event in the game. No wonder my friend bought the Prime for the building they have their War Room at 36 while most of us are around 18.. I spend money but I am not buying all these 100$ packs. Sickening Greed Scopely.

[late inlet]

Scooply where my gift for doing the survey?

[spare pollen]

Sounds like Trolling to me but I am used to it on this discord.

[late inlet]

I'm trolling bc I want to know where my gift card is after doing the scooply survey? Go away.

[spare pollen]

So why was it a reply to my Message ???????

[proud wing]

Oh look, you summoned one lol

[light sonnet]

Are alliance tournaments coming back? We had a lot of fun with those in our alliance and were able to engage some players who are more quiet in their gameplay style. Way more fun than arenas or incursions.

[viscid sinew]

Will the choice awards carry over to the next arc?

[narrow violet]

Fun? Alliance Tournaments is just an ALB. There is no working together, just solo players scoring on their own tasks and then all the player scores added together. I.E an ALB event

[desert laurel]

You should not expect the currency in this month's bp to be useable in future months.

[light sonnet]

Yeah but talking through who is doing which event and maximizing our scores was fun.

[graceful vessel]

So you are saying that future BP's will be choice too, just not with this currency?

[desert laurel]

If you want to keep it, I'd leave positive feedback about it in the feedback channels.

[manic shell]

When is the next alliance tournament ? Seems overdue

[slender escarp]

Remember how incursions went months without running?

Think like that.

[late inlet]

I there only one SMS for q?

[karmic moon]

Think there might be others, a lot of info missing this month

[worthy plaza]

well only 3 matchups in and so far...matchmaking much much better than last week

hope it stays the course

[smoky spear]

Matching been really great today its either very even with avg ops on both side or close to avg and that happened 13 matches only 1 was one sided with hugh ops difference

So todays arena run was best so far

[narrow violet]

For your daily max chest claim of “Terran Arena Claim” you need min of 9 games and max of 21

So “9-21” games. The claim refreshes if your rank changes rem that, as you can claim the chest multiple times in one day of you keep increasing rank.

[finite cypress]

Who was the enlightened one who decided to have a level 46 Silent Marauder come out every hour? Nice way to waste our time 💩

[steady hedge]

What? Where?

[covert frigate]

They cut down on the Battlepass Material payout?

[finite cypress]

I have tried to make an arena with my alliance mates. And it is impossible. The game is so unbalanced that it is disgusting. What a pile of 💩 💩 💩

[steady hedge]

Choice rewards... for you to pick in the event store.

[deep steeple]

I had a ship get stuck in combat right at the start of the arena match so only had one usable ship until it finished

[narrow violet]

🤔 you can use all the docks, just 2 at a time. Clear Local this fixed it for me... for a abit 😄

[tropic totem]

🤦‍♂️ holy moly 🤦‍♂️ while scopely push the Arena 🤦‍♂️ they also put on an extra mining event 🤦‍♂️ that’s just simply the opposite of what’s needed 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ wow 🤦‍♂️

No one joins Arena from my alliance, as it means they will lose their mines. On mining Monday 🤦‍♂️

Mines are scarce. 🤦‍♂️ arena is unproven 🤦‍♂️ and they make it less and less appealing as the weeks go on 🤦‍♂️

[patent flume]

Mining Monday stopped being a hard event ages ago, takes 5 mins to do it

Took me 5 seconds logged on and refreshed nodes boom event done before I knew their was one 🤣

[analog fiber]

I don’t see this

[tawny galleon]

Where is this event that was scheduled for today? @cosmic steeple

[astral mirage]

Scopely still ain't fixed arena matchmaking, thought they were narrowing the brackets for better matchmaking, not letting ops 49s get walloped by 800mil G5 ships.

[quasi token]

Where is the treasury???

[normal osprey]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[rare verge]

Arena still a pile of 💩 and can’t really see it improving 🥱🥱

[analog fiber]

Need to open teammates to server wide, not sure what’s the hold up on that.

[opal mantle]

Advanced Development please

[normal oar]

Getting about Sarris time? tomorrow, maybe?

[clear crater]

Oh jeez. Thought I'd try arena again. That was a mistake. Something that could be so good (and fun) just so so bad.

Improvement 1: it shouldn't recall ships
Improvement 2: remove all pve rewards from the store. Make them pvp only so pve players don't feel they have to take part
Improvement 3+ fix the lag and poor matching +++

[hardy geyser]

or add a pve alternative to get terran credits....put it on the same level as Bronze IV so there is still some advantage for those that fight in the arena

well....fight and win from time to time 🙈

[inland wraith]

You mean you're not enjoying one-sided battles with G6 players slaughtering ships at the spawn points?

What's not fun about that?

[hardy geyser]

oh....today the matchmaking for me was sort of balanced.... 2 rare G5 + 1 uc G5 on our side and the same on the other....but the other had a big spender with the PvP FT....camping armada circles.....lost 1000:40 or so 🙈

after 2 battles one of us had to leave and we had no replacement.....so only 2 battles for me this week....last week I had 0 because I could not find teammates that had time when I was available.....

[inland wraith]

Worse for me...as if that was possible. A gold-ranked G6 player against Bronze G5's. Busted the myth that ranking is causing the unbalanced matches at least

[rare verge]

@inland wraith I’m g6 lvl 62 but still matched against lvl 69 waiting at the spawn site 🤔🤔

Not a chance in h*ll

Ships also getting stuck and don’t release until arena over

[hardy geyser]

I'm an F2p player, so PvP is not the really enjoyable, because I do not even manage to make a scratch in the other ships....but still...for Arena my biggest issues are:

• You need 3 players who are online at the same time
• You cannot do anything else besides arena (e.g. leave miners out, or autolevel other ships)
• Laaaaag (everytime I fight in the arena, it is super laggy and my ships jump back and forth)
• Ship repair of 2mins is owfull....

[steady hedge]

Tomorrow! So says Eco over @ the other Discord.

[livid totem]

last 1h... 1 can't start my arena team, can't leave my team, can't do anything.... THX SCO

[sharp raft]

While I appreciate all the continued attempts to improve arenas, it would be lovely if you would vary the day/time that it is run, especially since it's only an 8-hour thing.

[elfin anvil]

Until arenas are on a day other than mining Monday you probably won’t hit your goals. I know I haven’t done any as I’ve heard your mining ships are pulled.

[finite cypress]

Scopely doesn't understand, That a game in which you have no chance of winning becomes boring, And if you add to that bad rewards. I think there's nothing more to say

[coral niche]

Rewards are great, it is all just too cumbersome to get them.

[soft tulip]

I think we should have more "Heroic" events in this game /s

[cold hedge]

Just 1 one

[main cairn]

Why is Arenas only made available for 8 hours on Mondays? It would be nice if this was varied a bit so people who are busy Monday evenings are able to participate on occasion.

[opal mantle]

Does anyone know if you advance far enough in arena rank to unlock an option in the Terran store does it revert to being greyed out if you fall back down?

[rotund bane]

So far today I've come across a 56 with 2 550m g4 rares, a 57 with a 750m g4 rare and a 59 with a 800m g4 rare. All different matches. Im 55, this feature like my rank is garbage.

[limpid torrent]

so instead of TIERING MATCHMAKING like EVERYONE ASKED FOR and ALREADY WORKS for SLBs, they just narrowed the level range. so every match is determined by what team has a more G6s than the other. slow clap scopely, another fail

[narrow violet]

if you lose rank, items based on rank are greyed out

[last hemlock]

Arena update is a massive flop. Do better

[pulsar fox]

Arena should be a queued instance that isn't alliance bound and run all the time as long as you can make teams

Then gum down level ranges by every 3 levels or so

[tribal elbow]

Worked quite well for my games, so maybe just needs more tweaking for some ops brackets/team comps. Or maybe I was just lucky 😟

[late shadow]

Matchmaker is still rubbish. Had one math where there was a level 52 and a level 64 in the same game...... Nah, still not working I'd say

[warm sorrel]

is there any particular reason the matchmaking is going off of average ops level instead of max?

[boreal elk]

How much would you work kicking out people, like in waves?

[pulsar fox]

Why would you kick anyone...

[spice cave]

Matching system shouldn't rematch you with someone you just lost to the previous match.

I still maintain that we need a mode that the players can select that is "no forbidden/chaos tech, no primes". That would help even things out a bit. If it's user selectable, we'd be able to have tighter matches.

[storm canopy]

The Arena system is still totally and completely broken. Level is irrelevant compared to ship strength and ship/officer stats. We have a 57 who's being crushed by a 56 whale who clearly dropped on a mega-death ship and fully developed officers. He flies so quickly that every single player is destroyed and then they just run the gamut of the arena for the rest of the time. I think that Scopely developers may actually not understand how broken they've made the PVP system. This isn't entertainment, it's a duck shoot that irks people off and more often than not strokes the ego of people with the character to appreciate beating down others with no sense of authentic competition whatsoever.

[crimson yacht]

Yup, the matchups are worse now

[tight pagoda]

Garbage event, back to the drawing board

[limpid geode]

Don’t run arenas on mining Monday. Having to reset miners is annoying

[steady hedge]

Arena and PVP is always going to be about who spend more. Why would you expect otherwise. At least we don't see 12 average level differences in Arena anymore?

[random bough]

Matchups haven't been as bad for me, my issue is game stability... atrocious this evening

[broken dust]

Matchups are worse, power no where near close. Getting 69s and 70s against 66s and 64s…way to “fix” nothing scopley

[versed ferry]

Its cool I got pinned against someone with a 21k Rating and im at 2k....

His power at OPS 60 is higher than mine at ops 62

[mortal yarrow]

Research.....

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-sol-monke-gif-4044901547574172025

He had all of his FT's and Chaos Tech Maxed out

He bought the cannon and immediately maxed it

He has every prime, every premium research

His Rotty was 3.1 Billion in power

I know 67's that don't have that high of a Rotty

Good for him though. He wins the game

You would think with a 21k Rating he would be matched against those that have an equal rating score vs someone who has 1/10th of that

[mortal yarrow]

😏😏😏

Sounds like a good fight for me

[versed ferry]

He is all yours my guy

[mortal yarrow]

Definitely worth fighting 😈😈😈

[somber crown]

Arena, really? I go 'south' 3 seconds later my ship goes 'north' and gets blown up. Who the manageresed came up with the threading and display modules? You know who it is Scopely? go get them and make them put their daily salary on their code. They'' figure out way the freaking fast how messed up it is.
And yes, I bonus'd my developers if they could shave time off their work.
This can't be posted because it contains content blocked by this server. This may also be viewed by server owners.

[versed ferry]

Enjoy

[opal mantle]

Anyone caught wind of an upcoming spend event for the Terran store?

[sharp raft]

From the feedback I saw in our AC, looks like arenas still stink. Maybe bring back alliance tourneys? Something we could all participate in without massive lag and total frustration?

[mortal yarrow]

Still haven't played in arenas

[steady valve]

These arenas are SO much worse this week between the bad lag and inconsistant matchmaking

[steady valve]

My last two matches the enemy ships apparently weren't were they were represented.

241m vs 313m. I'm sure that 70m differnce had nothing to do with the amount of glitter I was turned into lmao

[severe violet]

My matchups today were the best by far! I'm a 50. Whatever you did there. It was perfect.

[limpid torrent]

Matchups were better this time around but still suffer from the same issue. Whatever team has the highest grade ship wins. One G6 player beats three G5s. One 70 beats 3 G6s. One G5 beats 3 G4s.

[ember loom]

Played 25 arena matches today. Lost all of them. We'd not even bother trying after seeing things like a 1.5 billion ship destroy our 5.5 billion ship courtesy of leveled up tantalus field AND leveled up Q cannon on their ship. Or if their borg cutter could one shot our 1-2 billion ships. We also matched the same teams multiple times today so it seems player population/engagement is dwindling quite a bit. In our alliance of 80, only 9 of us tried arena battles this time.

I now have 10k arena emblems to spend at least, but such a pay to win activity is tiresome and boring. Now imagine if forbidden tech were disabled in arena battles...

[sleek hare]

Arena matchup metrics need work…. It matches me up with players 3x the power level. Event not fun the way it is set up now.

Going to skip the arena event until the matchup metrics are fixed. Tired of losing all the time

[quiet depot]

Hmmm

[crystal raven]

I think I've done 2 arena matches since launch. I work the 8 hours the event is active therefore virtually impossible to interact with the content

[worthy gazelle]

The mismatches is part of the design and cannot be resolved. No matter how exited they are to announce improvements...

They won't be able to make it work, because you need to match two teams with three players in each team. The mechanic is complex.
First step will be to find a team in the same bracket. So you list all the teams of a bracket.
Then you need to compare powers. You can use the sum of the three members or the average. Or a different formula. But herein is the complexity.
If you have wide brackets (as it is now), it's easier for the players out of an alliance to build teams.
This increases the risk of mismatched teams later because the power variety of players of the same or similar levels is big.
If you narrow the brackets the less likely players will find a team.

So no matter what they do, the result is the same.
--> frustration over arena. Either because you cannot find/enter a team or because of mismatched teams...

There is a chance. if the game picks the team members based on the ships they assign first. Then they could limit power difference and matching would be easier.

[frigid tangle]

Is there going to be a Terran spend credit Event or should we just spend your credit now?

[tired quartz]

The matching need to be opened up to the server or at least friendly alliances, I missed another week of arena (still 23rd on my server) due to is not being able to get a team together due to personal timings etc across the event

[fiery harbor]

where are the continuum hostiles, guys? cords pls

[fiery harbor]

which system vampi?

what ship, crew should I use there?

[finite cypress]

It will happen to you like it did to me, you will waste time, then it turns out that to be able to use the Q Cannon section you have to pay.

[past leaf]

7 active heroics. wow!

[waxen charm]

Do we know if there will be a mirror research event coming up?

[icy citrus]

and all 0 points in my acc^^ saving money... may be later end of the arc for rare officer but its rediculess that we must pay for rare. not shure i pay for

[keen mist]

They just need to add a forfeit button so we don't waste our time waiting for the L.

[hot palm]

If they do though, 95% of the teams would join a match, hit forfeit, join a match, hit forfeit, etc etc to speed run the credits needed for the weekly pulls and call it a day. The entire PvP system in this game is beyond broken and just basically seal clubbing for whoever has the biggest ship in the lineup.

[whole sequoia]

that's what the rank is for, if you want to just farm credits, there's no reason to prevent you from doing so, as there is a penalty for doing so anyways

[keen mist]

They can gate forfeits like everything else.

[hot palm]

if they do that though, it's the same time loss or similar to just afk it while the other side speed runs the armadas

[tawny mirage]

Arena still has issues and matchmaking still not matching fairly. I’ll just skip arena. It’ll take years for Scopley to fix it at this rate.

[normal osprey]

In most cases it's been and looks significantly better than it was before.

[whole sequoia]

matchmaking is not perfect, but much better than it was, actually have some fun now

[tawny mirage]

My 600m Sanctus got matched up with a 5.7b behemoth, yea, it’s broke beyond repair

The biggest from each side

I need an easy button

[normal osprey]

What were the ops on each team. By the sounds of it your team would have been closely bunched in ops while the opposition had a way larger spread between min/max ops.

[normal osprey]

What Ops are you?

[tawny mirage]

I’m ops 58, he was ops 64

[normal osprey]

Try and make a team something close to 58/51/44

[tawny mirage]

👍🏻 yup, we had that 👆🏻

And still got matched with a 64, three times in a row

[whole sequoia]

sure, in ideal world, it would be bracketed according to ship availability, so something like 50-55, 56-60, etc. but that would also make it harder to get a team together

[normal osprey]

Maybe the game just thinks you're that good lol

[tawny mirage]

Hehehehe, fatal assumption 😜

[normal osprey]

Spreading your ops by the full 14 range should bring the average ops down enough that you should get more frequent equal teams, obviously it's scopely so doesn't always work the way it should.

[tawny mirage]

The point is tho, who in their right mind thinks I’m gonna send a ship to get smashed by a player that has a ship that is 5b larger than the combined power of all players combined on my team ? That does not encourage anyone to return, nor does it come across as sporting

[rugged fog]

What’s the point of the FT lvl up if it ALWAYS fails other than to drain my FT material????

[warm sorrel]

don't failures increase your chances of success?

[rugged fog]

Not if it ALWAYS fails

[serene helm]

It doesn’t always fail and a failure still scores points in the events

[rugged fog]

Well maybe for you but the last 6 attempts have failed for me. I would rather it upgrade the FT than score in the event

Now I have no materials

[normal osprey]

What's the success %

[serene helm]

99.9% 😬

[normal osprey]

I wish mine was that high lol. Really need to work on my assessment rank.

[dry tinsel]

maybe a match against random bots

[normal osprey]

Yes when it fails to upgrade you get the Q buff thing

[rugged fog]

Q’s Favor is 59%: Q’s Benevolence is 25%

But lately always failing

[normal osprey]

The more it fails the higher the other Q buff gets, eventually it'll be 100% success.
Getting your assessment rank higher will also increase the %.

[warm sorrel]

I know, I wasn't the one saying failures do nothing

[normal osprey]

I was agreeing with you.

[warm sorrel]

I'm not the one that needs notifying about the upgrade chances

[normal osprey]

Just the one that apparently needs an attitude adjustment.

[serene helm]

Don’t make me go get Jess

[warm sorrel]

and you are the one that needs to unclick pinging on every reply

[normal osprey]

Why?

[warm sorrel]

whatever, blocked

[summer harness]

Qs modest challenge isn’t giving 5* rewards

[hardy parcel]

why is today's serris SMS not giving the event currency? I thought it usually did......

[raven sail]

which one phoenix?

[warm sorrel]

the Fatu Krey SMS has always given syndicate xp, while the Fatu Krey SLB gives the eyepatches

[hardy parcel]

thanks - just my questionable memory then! 🤣

[craggy turret]

where i can find chimera ships and where i can use blue particles

[serene helm]

Chimera is on day 2 of event

And if you are referring to the blueprints then in the event store

[steady hedge]

You can get blue particles by using the Fatu-Krey Scrap Exchanges in the event store.

[cosmic comet]

Does treasury normally have epic 5* materials?

[clever wasp]

I'm a g5 player and don't ever recall getting g5 epic

[cosmic comet]

Thanks, been a while since I opened treasury and couldn’t remember if I’d got before or not

[pastel dome]

I should have protector by the end of this invasion, and all the syndicate xp is rushing me to 30 that's great

[lime cobalt]

Chimera are located where?

[normal oar]

No Armada Attack event today? Its in the IGN, but no levels specified

[fiery compass]

temporally

it's not available day 1 of the event

[fiery compass]

"armada attack" the same days as the syndicate event is always "for people with max syndicate only"

[twin solstice]

So where is the Armada event in the schedule?

Because its still... in.. the.. events..

[fiery compass]

#🏆-event-chat message

[twin solstice]

That really should say that in the description to indicate it wont be an option for everyone.

[elfin depot]

With the independent archives now tomorrow will they still be running it a third time on the 22nd?

[worldly dune]

It was originally going to be on the 11th, but got moved to the 13th

[normal osprey]

Eco had some issues with the calendar. Tomorrow's IA event was always supposed to run tomorrow, he put the wrong date in the calendar.

[sterile lava]

Q’s event killing Roms not registering kills

[undone zephyr]

tos enterprise skin becomes unfinished model 🤦‍♂️

d7 skin remains fine

[thorny quartz]

Anyone have a list of Fatu-krey locations?

[late inlet]

There should be some listed in the event description

[thorny quartz]

Ah.....ok

Thanks

[sacred phoenix]

you can also zoom out on the galaxy map and look at the systems with the little flag/shield above them, those are the fatu krey event systems

[proper wind]

EU Server 402 has never had those indicators

[sacred phoenix]

very odd, hmm; do you have at least those indicators for sunday's discovery event?

[proper wind]

Yes and for Jellyfish brawl. Just for fatu, nothing. Ever. Is very strange

[final crow]

was the Armada Attack SMS cancelled for Nov 11/12th ?

or rather, 12th/13th

[serene helm]

Think that was only for those with maxed syndicate

[sacred phoenix]

Yeah, it's the "replacement" event for those with maxed syndicate

[final crow]

I don't follow the maxed syndicate thing..

so there's a different event instead of it for everyone? based on the update 72 post in the news section of the game, it seems to be something everyone will compete in

[sacred phoenix]

In short, if you are at this point(it was just increased) you would get this event. Apparently it was always there, but never really mentioned in the calendar. Yeah, def not written very well.

[final crow]

well it's mentioned in the release notes for Update 72.. in a very obvious way with a bunch of other events that took place or will take place..

Is this a last minute decision to change the event's entry requirements or whatever?

[sacred phoenix]

no, at least that event was always just for maxed syndicate, like for example 2 month ago as well #💫-event-information message

it just seems to depend on the arc runner if it gets mentioned or not, I guess 🤷‍♂️

[final crow]

getting mentioned? I mean, it's clearly being mentioned by scopely via that notification in-game.. so that's really where the problem lies.

thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.

[sacred phoenix]

Yeah, this is just a clear quality issue and information issue on their part, don't know why they just cannot be clear about it.

[final crow]

everything lately feels like it's being nerfed in one way or another

I almost prefer the lag over that

[warm sorrel]

...

[summer harness]

what tier protector can kill a 52 chimera?

[vague halo]

Speaking of Chimera's, Where are they?

or is this a ops-lock thing again? (ops 40)

[deep steeple]

i claimed my archive bundle but no points is this broken or delay?

[normal oar]

@cosmic steeple Can you find the puppy kicker that didn’t folder events for this arc, and shake them vigorously? All the clicks reduced by the IA building have been replaced by scrolling, which may actually be worse.

[narrow violet]

It more then likely means, claim the Voyager IA Bundle

[peak charm]

Silly Question.. where does one get Sarri Armada directives?

[serene helm]

From here and pray to the scopley gods they don’t give you the 50 directives

[toxic escarp]

so no points for my botany defeating another botany?

[peak charm]

It gave me 50 earlier.... So is that the only way., I can't think of any other way to get it🤦

[serene helm]

You can buy this but sadly no other way

[peak charm]

Lol no, will wait till next week, thank you 🖖

[serene helm]

You will be able to pull another tomorrow so will have another for one armada

[peak charm]

Tomorrow it is🫡

[random bough]

It was done months ago when people had Syndicate maxed at 45, instead of the Syndicate event they would get an armada event.

[gleaming quail]

what crew are these guys using

[finite cypress]

The empty boxes are for putting the photo of the children in case scopely also accepts them as payment

[normal oar]

Does Borg Hugh work against Chimeras?

It says "Hostile", so I'm not sure he would:

[spice cape]

Hugh and Chapel do not work.

Any word on alliance tournaments? I'd really like to advance my Emerald Chain.

[normal oar]

Heard no alliance tournaments in Nov, but they are coming back eventually. Personally hoping for Dec, but don't know.

[late inlet]

We can sell children!?!! I have some nephews....

[toxic escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-ben-stiller-youre-funny-joke-maker-joke-gif-5487857

[willow nymph]

Anyone know if there is an Artifact Event? Have shed loads to upgrade and getting annoyed it isn't showing up

[fiery compass]

"defeated with" = "you winning"
"defeated by" = "you getting blown up"

[toxic escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-face-palm-picard-trek-gif-15072590366303305471

[cosmic steeple]

Following up on this.

[normal oar]

Ok, I was really just venting and joking. Please don't actually shake anyone... and no puppy kicking.

[analog fiber]

Where is this event?

[grizzled mulch]

Max SyndXP

[normal oar]

I was told this was only for folks who has max Syndicate XP (which is certainly not me)

[analog fiber]

Who the hell has max syndicate xp lol

[violet rapids]

If you spent $10,000 and bought tons of packs, you too will have max syndicate XP.

[bitter yoke]

Is there a list of what officers work on chimera?

[narrow violet]

im syn 42 (3 away from old max) and spent £0, dont need to be spender

at max gains (based on ops 49) you can get 63.1K syn xp F2P daily (obvisouly i dont have max claims nor do i collect from S31 but i still get 33K Syn xp F2P daily.) (Their is 1 prime im missing but dont no which one it affects, Daily Goals or Syn Claim(

Plus take into effect how much XP is giving in BP's and Events + Event Store Arcs give a ton of free syn xp!

[narrow violet]

what i currently do without spending on S31

[steady hedge]

Basically any abilities that mentions both armada and hostiles/entities works on Chimeras.

[sturdy shell]

Does anyone know the date(s) of the upcoming 6 year anniversary event?

[late inlet]

I have a catapult. Meow....! Spash

[void quest]

@cosmic steeple so umm, i got some q continum engament token 2 from the event that ended this morning, what am i supposed to do with them?

[late inlet]

Add them to other stuff you can't use.

[cyan steppe]

Kitten Canon is an awesome game.

[narrow violet]

Sim, already advised it’s for an event that’s coming

[hazy stag]

https://tenor.com/view/mechwarrior-battletech-mech-catapult-land-gif-21451368

[narrow walrus]

@supple token it's cool you guys are trying something new, but why wait 10days into arc, when a bunch of events have passed where people probably ignored that milestone because who knows what it's for. Or did they only just decide it's purpose? I mean JAYSUS

[dry pewter]

Cool. Here I was hoping that the lack of q slb on the calendar meant we might get a useful officer. Silly me.

[solid osprey]

Oh no. It’s genius. You’ll get the tokens from other heroic events… spend more

[safe flower]

Wow. A paywalled, paywalled event! Leave it to Scopely to create double dipping events. SMH 🤦‍♂️

[sharp raft]

Yet another pvp officer that will be obsolete in 3 months, combined with pay then pay again events. This is why I don't spend a dime on this game anymore.

[brave igloo]

Will there be a spend event for other officers or even tech or should I just go wild and upgrade my Roti today?

[sharp raft]

What use are pvp officers anyway, when a maxed tantalus FT can turn a donkey into a racehorse?