#🏆-event-chat
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don't need pity credits, when there's nothing to buy in store due to lost rank 🤷♂️
/ rant over
Could be worse. Could be G6 players as some get.
Not to be bias because i am apac but apac definitely have some real matching problems... Because the player pool is pretty low
Not that i can see a actual solution a lot of my alliance players were not able to participate because of lets say 1st Monday 2nd the time is for many working hours
I was 6k less also, they just responded that I didn't compete some hostile hunt event, which is BS, no more money for scopely. Master surveyor was the event for that day, hostile hunt doesn't even count toward battle pass points
can I set multiple solos and group armadas in arena with having the multi start armada prime?
I too am having issues with BP overflow, according to the event I am 1750 short which I don’t even think is possible. I too diligently finished all BP events
Might be a good idea to ticket it and i think yours might be bugged 1750 Seems too low ...
U are lucky man they said i missed and closed it didn't even let me answer honestly i didn't knew i missed 😂
If this is what you call fair, i don't know what you've been smoking, but i want a pound of it 🤣 🤣
Hey @dry salmon you’re on TV!
Hi mum!!
The top milestone is always more than 1750; you have to miss credit for an early milestone of 1 BP event to be off by that amount rather than not complete an event...
This FC event today, do Sloan Sp count for scoring? If not, why not?
in mine, only sp that is listed is lorca
Seems that if you have someone in your team ranked silver the ops matching goes out the window. How it’s even remotely fair to pitch an ops 70 against sub ops 60’s??
The thing i don't understand is how there are restrictions in forming a group, but it doesn't matter at all with the matchup since it's rank based 😅
Yours was really a bad match because the enemy's were Higher rank than u lol 😂
Or maybe i guess nearly same rank
Yeah the ranks are the same, but when you think about the ships sub 60s have versus 60+ players, it just becomes a massacre 😂
My pvp crewed Sanctus of 1bil lost against a 1.1bil Corvus with speed crew, that hurts a mans soul 😂
so umm, you kinda ended the territory SMS early so todays territories arent counting....
do we know if the arena rating improves more if you win against bigger ops?
i'm winning almost every time still barely 6k, one guy from other alliance is 16k and tells me he won against ops 59
me and him both same ops level - 50
no, fixed values
@cosmic steeple what servers is what days for incursions?
Nothing better than an SLBs as a lvl 45 ops with all the higher 60s ops players. Good one scopley
banding on this Arena is still a joke, how can you put an ops 62 in with an ops 53?!
Why does the ships in the yellow Augment space not counting for Weapon Select Interceptor Event?
For ship-specific events, it's the ship type of the attacker that matters.
Either manually grind with an interceptor, or get attacked by hostile interceptors (e.g. Klingon chasers) to score.
in other systems i can shoot all types of ships. btw using a d4 for the event
Explores from augments dont count but from federation
Yep, that's because you're shooting them. In augment space, it's them shooting you.
(even if you attack bounty hunters, there's a 50:50 shot it gets counted as them attacking you)
Ah, ok .... thx
It's weird, it's not explained in event description, but it's how the ship type events always work.
then how can this be explained?
the top one I even won a round against him
and his team
have won today about 20 matches, lost maybe 3
Hmm, nope not worth the pain anymore. Time to try some RuneScape again
he wins more or bugs 🤷♂️
also the rank keeps from previous events
Legendary match making 😂😂
I know, he gained almost twice as me, doubt that he was won over 40 matchs
yeah just forget these events - scopely has got a clue
Are we getting another round of Arenas today?
Seriously?
why would you bother with any of them - they all forked up
Did they change the scoring in the Temporal Artifact Hunt event?
@waxen valley what’s going on with this event? I’m in an SLB with the biggest player on my server, he’s ops68 and I’m ops44
Artifact Hunt
Bracket is 38-70. I can see the reason why, I don’t disagree with it but I also don’t agree with the bracket outcome.
it should be rewards for like top 200 or 500 if they're going to make the brackets that huge
The rich get richer, man this game is becoming so frustrating at nearly every level
Indeed, if there were such a banding “spend” would be far better than “ops”
Working on this!
whats wrong with scopely incursion should be one day for each server but now i read we (EU105) are twice paared with EU401 one time on first day second time second day no chance to plan it
Arena brackets are way too wide!! Just boycott until they sort it🙃
Try this
Does winning or losing an arena give you anything other than plus or minus victory points?
So I’m in silver iv may make sense not to play at all
🤦♂️
they are cheating by intentionally losing and keeping at the lower rating
this is why this system wil never work
it is same reason why my server is the worst server ever for incursions
Dont we love it when half the screen is occupied by ghost counters xD Thanks skopeli for fun
Just boycott Arena until the sort it, they'll soon get our message😊
No they wont. Theyll just cancel it for a few months in a row amd then bring it back unchanged. Like incursions, war room, tournaments etc
It seems, with events and the recent announcement of off arc events, scopley can't decide how to run the game anymore. It's come down to "what makes us the most 💰 💰
Has it been anything else?
It's more obvious during arc with 5 different heroics, but changing off arc schedule removing events that are normally scheduled for a Halloween event that will most likey have a "heroic" tied to it
Did they change arena since last run
no
So no officer battle pass this week? Or is that in the Halloween events?
same for EU 137 🙈 day 1 or day 2? dont hope its both days @cosmic steeple 😅
@cosmic steeple what genius scheduled arena tourneys on mining Monday
The same ones who sorted out the matchmaking?
Got give credit to scopely, at least they are consistent with Arenas. Consistently garbage and not listening to anyone 😄
isn’t arena for 40+? who over ops 40 even cares about lat rush, so much effort for so little reward
yes.. but i am 55 and if i want to join it will take my miners out of token space on mining monday
good one 😄
that doesn’t change my point of who cares about lat rush, it’s an old event with tiny rewards, especially redundant since voyager etc
yea.. but i dont want to waste my token dammit
If they want people to enjoy arenas they need to stop putting G5 teams against G6s, G4s against G5s
They won't implement that limit for the same reasons that PvP ranges are wider than +/- 5 ops levels.
Gotta let the paying customers get their kicks killing weaker players.
how is this balanced?
lol nice, g6 against g4s, thats a good one scopely
Please fix the matchmaking. This is getting ridiculous
All our arenas have stopped responding
Nice matchmaking
Any mention about events for servers being merged?
its just getting more of a joke, they're not even using lube!
@cosmic steeple any kind of update on why its so out of whack?
I actually know your competitors. I bet you did just fine regardless of the imbalance
how does that make sense to pit these head to head in arena?
That's g5 v g5. Plenty getting way worse odds
Valdore vs Rota 😄
No alliance tournament scheduled = dead content? This was the perfect between arcs event.
@cosmic steeple @supple token I REALLY want to like Arenas, but 4 matches in a row with 3 G5 bronze players against 3 G6 Silver players. Lost a lvl of rating because there is nothing you can do when the other side can put full speed crew on a ship and kill you anywhere and catch you anywhere. no amount of hostile hopping and using known bugs to try and "jinx" their ships will ever work. Shipyard lvl MUST be a larger part of your matchmaking algorithm. losing 9 outta 10 matches because you are simply outclassed and now I can't even GET a team because everyone in my alliance has now said forget this and gone off to play other games for the evening
an exploration of the dual-edged nature of power creep. While players naturally desire stronger, more exciting content, unchecked power creep can lead to imbalances, making older content feel obsolete. This presents a significant challenge for developers, who must find a balance between keeping the game fresh and ensuring that previous investments by players remain valuable.
Just out of curiosity, when did the weekly TC trailbazer event end? Had a TC today but didn’t finish trailblazer because it ended before my TC
This has nothing to do with power creep. This has to do with a very poorly written matchmaking engine.
Probably the core problem is that it needs to be willing to NOT give you a match if there isn't a suitable one, instead of expanding the parameters until you find one.
thats the other factor (not needing any "debate" .. because its true) . ... however not my point if there is no balancing factor for what you point out (speed) then its powercreep (how it manifests can be a lot of different ways)
True. "in universe" there is a limit to impulse speed. That SHOULD be a thing here, like no ship can go over 400 anythign over 400 is reduced to 400
just a little longer wait for the match could help.
it matches in 2 seconds, that's awfully quick to expand outside your level range.
or base rank gains/losses on how unbalanced a fight is, because sometimes a badly balanced match ends up winnable.
what about solving it with a rapid drain of shield/hull (if one goes to fast) ? even if one is next to a opponent .. this would give a weaker opponent a fighting chance per ops lvl based or so
Why create a new mechanic instead of simply putting a limit on it?
Not that it matters if the ops 58 guy has a shield at all...I'm still a badly matched ops 45!
because a limit would not make it more fair .. (beside the matchmaking that's imho another point) ... you do 1-3 matches an hour you kinda get annoyed by sitting at the sideline (wining/or losing) .. i rather cherrypick my opponent. based on their powerlevels. (if they accept lets go)
Yeah that spread is pretty crazy. Will ask about it.
there are loads of those examples
What server?
eu401 --> a ton of those
Honest question: why even bother with the Arenas if you're not already at almost the top Ops level your server can go? The way these matchups are so mismatched with power and Ops level, I just don't even want to try anymore. And I was enjoying it the first week out. Congratulations, y'all have turned a really fun idea into a chore and disheartening experience
if you look at the apac arena chat there’s heaps of examples - this is one of the worst i remember seeing
Your match making makes no sense.
i am server 99
i was going against a ops 63, my server CANT even go past 60 yet >.< how was that allowed in?
We're max level 50 still, and we get matched wth 60's sometimes.
Max level for server doesn't help. It's just broken.
All the examples posted above have been the standard since arena launched. (Ops 44 here). The "average ops level" that was announced is clearly not happening in the matchmaking.
For example, average of 43 vs 48 (44, 42, 42) vs (45, 49, 50) is not fun.
I would gladly wait longer for a fun matchup than get matched instantly...
On s40, didn't do a ss, first match of the day. Us 56, 58, 55 vs a 63, 64, and 56 awesome "fair" match up scopely....how hard is it to say if a team has a g6 that opponent has to have an access to a g6. Same for g5 and g4
these matches are not even close, we are outclassed by 50M
Balance these things
The arena matching is completely ineffective. One whale with a Vidar Talios one level above everyone else with the speed crew is wiping the table of everyone in our group. So few people are playing, we keep getting matched to that same group over and over again. This is crazy. Not enough people, impossible matching, and it's nothing but a boring waste of time. I think in the 10 or 20 of these we've played, we've only had one that was well matched and that one was fun.
No rest for the wicked... merged and infantile excursion in lest than 72 hours...
The whole arena matchmaking is complete crap. Another week with no matches available.
Putting it on Monday was a bad decision.
No exaggeration, more than half my alliance doesn't want to take part because of
1: the perceived imbalance (which I think is more than just perceived)
2: they don't want to lose Mining Monday progress.
just half? almost 90% of ours dont want in any more
I was being conservative with "more than half". There are only a couple of people running squads right now (none in my range (66))
How do we give feedback to scopkey about things like a areana?
events-feedback channel theoretically
Ok will try. Not that it will matter, bout why not
704-705 and 706-707 Incursion Pairings are listed twice for Day 1 and Day 2
I can’t believe scopely ran the same arena garbage again. It worked better the first time. 3v3 and the matchmaking sux
Ran the same garbage and fixed nothing.
Are we getting ranks after arena is over I ranked up but can’t pull the unlocked stuff yet
The matching is definitely not right. Weighing it according to ranking doesn’t do anything. 3v3 is awful. Three 70s vs Three 60s is crazy. Size needs to be taken into more of an account. And the loss of points when you lose is ridiculous. No one wants to do these anymore
if you dont fix the power matchups at least remove the negative rainking points
The lag in arena is terrible, not much fun watching my ship not go anywhere
And the pairings are like others have said ridiculous
Anyone know what these ‘Halloween Events’ tomorrow will entail?
Are we getting an arena spend event?
I want to know if I should save my Terran credits or not
Get arena rank out of the matchmaking.
Yeah.. great matchup... Smh
The fact you can get matched up against levels outside your bracket alone means matchmaking is broken
Been like this all the whole event. Need to refund all losses and send out an enormous rewards chest. Complete and utter disregard to the player base.
Like I get power level differences within levels, but you shouldn't be facing levels you can't even have in your own group
Yes, even to the under ops 40s for having to hear about it endlessly
Yeah... I hear ya... Again, really missing the mark for the ENTIRE player base.
Actually got a matchup with our own server? Is that supposed to happen...
Happens
With how bad this matching engine is, it’s absurd that the losers of a match lose rank. Winning and losing is all about luck, I know right when we match whether or not we will win or get stomped.
For instance, I was running a group with ops 58, 57, and 64 and we kept being matched against 66, 66, 59. There’s no way we ever stood a chance.
Fix the matching engine or give the losers a small positive gain in rank as well, there’s no skill in most of these matches right now.
Just throwing it out there, these arenas would be much better if server wide, only 1 lvl each side of the starter and three to a match both sides. Plenty enough for continuous matches that would be far closer in power, researches and ships than what we have now.
This event has nothing to do with alliances in the ranking system of the faction store or personal ranking of the players, why it’s confined to alliances escapes me. Several ppl in several alliances can’t join because of a lack of players available, even with the 7+/- ops lvls that can join on each side of the starter. This also is the single major cause of the terrible matchups that people are complaining about.
As it is now, players who can’t join arena in their own alliance are forced to join other alliances to even participate and can only do that when real alliance events and arcs are not running at the same time or they risk losing rewards from those events.
C’mon Scopely, get it together, who makes these new events harder and more complicated than it has to be…
Not true while yes lot of times you get bad match few things to note is your rank
Also you can win its hard not impossible
This was actually balance if you only take arena rank into consideration. Not saying it's right but once things get leveled out after a few arenas you shouldn't see many teams like these if any since they will all put rank you
I glad they fix the uneven match ups and kept the arena fair for all players
It is a lot of fun when you have a 60 against level 40s. They dont have a chance
That would be true if they ran this like ANY other game and just left Arena open all the time rather than running it once a week for a few hours. As it stands right now, this is just another failed game mode to add to Starbases, War Room, Incursions, etc.
I have given up on arena events. The pairings are not even. The last two weeks I’m in with at least one 60 plus. I am level 53. It is not even close. Can’t compete. Won’t play anymore.
out lvl and out rank what's the word for this ? random matching !
That Matchmaking-System will not work, so long we have these 3vs3 or 5vs5 with different lvl of players in the squad! It will work 1vs1! But not in 3vs3 or 5vs5! That game must have a lvl cap like in World of Warcraft! When you reach it, you can entry the arena for pvp! Scopely should send their Developers to Blizzard for learning, how to build a proper pvp-system for that arena-event!
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> can you confirm the dates for the servers highlighted? Multiple servers are listed on two days
double incursion! double rewards!
Lucky servers 😂
I wish I could participate in the Arena but apparently it's only for people who don't work second shift.
copypasta fail on someones end 🤣
I didn't even bother this week
Not worth the time spent vs rewards imo
The higher level players are migrating to one alliance. The small alliances will cease to exist. We lost our 59 this morning.. The last arena we had 1 player join us for a day just so he would have somone to work with.
@supple token Can you clarify the correct days for the duplicated servers listed in the incursions planning (see my picture a few posts above)?
I know there is no answer to this because Scopely can't figure out DST, but will the day 3 incursions be 25 hours instead of 24 hours since it crosses the DST reset? Or will it be 24 hours and end an hour earlier the next day since the clocks go back an hour for most of the US except for scopely servers.
pairs 132,133,134,137 is day 2
still confirming about 402
I did 8 arena matches yesterday for a total of 5 wins and 3 losses. On one of the losses we had was against a team we should have beat on paper. We had a 49 and a 57 and myself at 53. They had a 53 a 50 and a 46....and whooped us in tactics. They were flying all over the place. They were very well organized. Out of all 8 matches, we only got one that seemed off power wise. We had the same group as mentioned before but they had a 67 and a 64. Overall It was a good time and we had a lot of fun.
Any chance you could post in announcements once you've confirmed the last one? Whether it overlaps with our 5* system takeovers is important to know, so early in the territory season.
I can ping back once we confirmed
Confirmed that 403 v. 402 is on D2!!
Thanks, will do my best to get the word out, on our server.
Seriosuly? 3* for an ops 55?
@supple token Can you remind the devs that G6 doesn’t have much use for 3* mats? kthxbai 😆
This seems to count as gain tokens
shh!!!
59 isn't any better
neither is 63
so the mega cube event was replaced by this halloween event, and to participate in a major part of it requires a $50 pack? no thanks
oh, what the hell - g3 mats for g5 ppl - really - come on
I mean that is a lot of reward for ops 59 🤣
I can not spend this much in a week!
NIGHTMARE Event!! They got the name right with these Rewards!

G3 mats also for g6 players
You know you have an Augur you need to finish and scrap
give me g3 parts then....
ops 55 mat 3* ???
lol well i am not even gonna put up a screen as there are already gazillions that figured out the same lol
Pass on this haloween bs
@cosmic steeple - As you can see above, the halloween event appears to be broken and set to G3 mats across the board, including the event store for it, lol
remember it is trick or treat and scopely picked trick
This whole set of events is a joke.. G3 mats and then Pay for an event that has stuff that should be part of the regular event… absolute joke
Its the "trick" in trick or treat
@supple token Would you be able to please confirm if 704 v 705 incursions are day 1 or day 2? They are listed on both days. Thanks!
Is it me or did I miss something? How do you join these? I restarted my game and everything
They dont start till the timer counts down
Yeah but the first one is not on a timer
They want you to buy access
I cannot find the keys to start it
OH Pay to Play stupid SCOPELY SUCKs again
Pay to grind in this case...
Nope not spending money on those
Oh here we go Dopely. Pay just to do an event. Good luck with that. 🤡’s
where are the tickets for the terror (ticketed) events?
2 sets of packs, 1st set 99.99 and 49.99 2nd set 99.99 and 49.99 and 19.99
@cosmic steeple Go ahead and take down this event if it pays 3* mats to players level 1-70.
It's insulting.
So half of the events are buy only?
appears its pay to play so far
What a con <@&509690795536941056> pay to play literally. This company’s greed is unbelievable
Boo no 50 dollars to play 😭
I refuse to pay to grind half the night away, they have no clue
Is this a typo? These rewards are for ops 53
the events are porpbably a one time payout
Look at you, getting G6 rewards. Lucky!
thank you scopely for an 50 bucks event seriously??? Why ??? this dump Game turns into .........
I have docks to upgrade
What's funny is that they actually announced the borg event will not run this break... helloooo borg event
Just say we will not let you pull 7 of 9 fc shards
3* mats? Tally is not going to fly then 😅
What a bunch of greedy jerks. Here is a Halloween event. NOW PAY or screw off!!!
But you need complete, if you wnat the Meta rewards
A r wait fir the Christa’s events. Where every event is pay to play
Let me think if I want the meta
They are becoming the biggest bunch of greedy crooks on the planet
Usually you get 1 free and buy rest, but now. Buy em all 🤑
So now we have to pay to do an event. No ftp path..a new low
So the only way to get the ticket of tear items is to buy them
Can't really declare those events pay only until they start. It's entirely possible (and not unprecedented) that we'll all get tokens in a gift chest tomorrow.
99% that we won't since there are 4 events and 4 tokens in the pack. Usually we had some for which they would give us one in chest and the remaining in store, but in this case it's pretty clear cut that's a pay only event.
For what it's worth it's only giving me 4 days of syndicate XP and 4 days of protomatter, so absolutely not worth the price tag
@gray mortar One of them technically has started
They have started. Pretty sure scopely went for trick vs. Treat
The meta has started, yes. But the others haven't. And like the ticketed events, this feels like a set of events that you can play some for free, but have to pay for all of them. I'm just saying let's wait until the actual events start tomorrow before we claim the sky is falling.
Sadly it's not a new low. They slapped a heroic title on it, so it would be clear it's a money grabbing event.
They. Have. Started.
The. Meta. Has. Started. The others don't start until tomorrow. And Thursday. And Friday.
Try again
They are selling 4 entries, it looks like pay only...also I hope they fix the 3* rewards...I didn't look then was like umm
Ops60, same rewards and G6 also have them.
🙈
Ok, I stand corrected. The hostile hunt hadn't started the last time I looked at it. I'm still withholding judgment until tomorrow since the others are likely to be 24-hour events instead of 5-day events.
Real heroes spend money 😂
🤣
$50 ticket pack that is worth no more than $10, and regular event that gives G6 players G3 materials. This is such an amazing Halloween event series, Scopely. Keep up the great work! /s
It had, you just saw it wrong
Is there supposed to be a gift chest for Halloween? Some in my alliance got one, others didn't...
yeah, there was one with 2k event store loot
Sure not buying event stuff to get more 3* rewards
Not a typo more like a foul up. getting the same at ops 59 lol
but handy in case you want to build an augur
I'm guessing these rewards fall into the "Trick" category of the Halloween event.
So pay only event ??
pay only
@cosmic steeple The "Nightmare Nexus: Borg Armadas - SLB" has a duration of 2 days, but the in-game news indicates 3 days.
seems they mix aprils Fool Events with Halloween
I remember to see an event where you need to spend iso-emulsion. Think it was under the long con event, but after the main event. Anyone know that happened with it?
dont recall that event sorry
There was no iso spend for the long con
sure would be nice if scopley gave us one set of tickets for this Halloween event like they used to. would also be nice if the SMS had rewards that a ops 32 player would at least be excited to see. guess ill be happy with my 5 officer shards for a 5 day event 🫤
its not. its 48 hours. it starts at reset on the 29th but ends on the 31st at reset. that's 3 dates over the course of the event.
aye, it used to be tickets for some of the events and you could buy tickets for the rest, and they were also a lot cheaper than $50-$60
the aim of the game is to disgust the players who spend less time in-game than in their shower, it really makes you want to "pay" for anything
rules 1, never believe scopely
rules 2, never believe that scopely plays its own games
Is ticket to terror paid only?
yes
Thank ya
Anyone remember when holiday events weren't horrible money grabs? Peppridge farms remembers
They didn't even try. I was really looking forward to some interesting events for Halloween. Instead we get a set of lame grind events and a paywalled grind event, with crappy rewards. They didn't even bother to do any new artwork
buy 10 get one free. 😉
and then play lotterie... sorry, no winner. buy another voucher. 😉
How do I start 'ticket to terror'?
Buy pack from store as it’s heroic
There is absolutely no way I am spending more money on holiday events. Greedy people 🤬
I will
sms events not crediting
Question for the hive mind. Regarding the "Nightmare Nexus: Borg Armadas - SLB" event, points are scored based on damage done (I was able to confirm this via battle log). This suggests that points are limited to a little over the total health (shield + hull) of the armada target (plus whatever overkill is scored on the shots that take down the shield and actually destroy the target). Am I missing anything, or is this assessment correct?
And it's only solos??
It looks like it should only count solos, but there seems to be some confusion around that.
says only solos, but borg group armadas work
expansion, megacube, regular borg
wouldn't run a megacube though since there's no sms to give back directives
This is confirmed?
got 180b points give or take off an expansion
Good enough for me. Thank you kindly 🙏
Okay, back up a sec, that just sank in. 180b points off of a single expansion cube?
They only have 95b health.
Did you kill it in a single round???
yes
Gee thanks for the 1 officer shard, Scopely. That really makes up for how bad and screwed up the Halloween events are 🤨 LAME!
oh no 5 rounds
That seems like a ludicrous amount of overkill if it wasn't taken down in one massive attack O.o
Well, two massive attacks, I guess. One for shield, one for hull.
I guess with Chakotay+synergy, and if Dajash triggered in the last round...?
So even if it was on its last hit point going into that round, 35b overkill + 95b health seems like it couldn't have scored more than 130b points for that one armada.
Which would make me think I'm not understanding something about how the event scoring works, but all my logs so far add up perfectly.
THAT I can certainly believe if you solo'ed a level 60.
That would seem a reasonable amount of overkill.
Well, for certain values of "reasonable" xD
okay 105b, might have been an erronious report on the banner before
that went down in 4
rounds did less damage than the other one though
so /shrug
I can reconcile those numbers with everything else I've seen. Thank you for the data points!
This is scoring by gaining tokens, not spending
it scores on both
nice Halloween events that you have to pay for.
can't even give a free token to players.
And…. The majority way to get the tokens to spend is….. buying packs.
oh.. so that's what "Premium" means... (I knew that anyway, seen it before somewhere else...means $$$$$$$$)
Just 4,5 hours in and they realised events should be announced 😂
"We will also be running an Event Store brimming with treats including officer shards, exclusive cosmetics, and a special Halloween Gifts" where are the cosmetics and special halloween gifts? I just have nine officers to choose from
meh, so they have something you have to pay for.. got to pay for their gold plated plumbing fixtures.
They get more and more lazy to mask obvious cash grabs.
as long as they have something for us frugal (read: cheap) players to do.
They volounteer, right? 😂
how much will this one cost?
<@&509690795536941056> is the halloween event store supposed to have cosmetics in it? because mine doesn't
I have no cosmetics as well
I mean, you’d likely have to pay to win enough loot to buy the cosmetics, so what’s the loss?
it says specifically the event store has the cosmetics, not the event rewards
Since they are ‚announced’now, 5 hours into events, maybe that’s the announcment part of sum up post.
These pay to play events are rubbish... So many people like this game, to bad developers don't care about anything other then taking cash. I've already done today's free events and have logged off for the day. Guessing I'll be spending more time offline going forward till I just don't log in anymore. Llap. Have a spooktacular Halloween
Hm. Lemme check.
It’s also supposed to be “brimming”
congratulations on driving away players at record breaking rates.
I doubt that’s happening where it matters. I assume one of the things they actually do really well is track metrics for spend so they aren’t losing the ones that matter
I know 4 70s who quit this week, so it's happening whether they wanna admit it or not.
Y’all post the interim calendar on your insta then deleted it cuz the dates are wrong 🤦🏽♂️. The simplest of tasks….
pay to play for halloween.. way to go scopely
I dunno if I needed to be pinged for this.
sorry hun
Now a ping for an apology is always ok in my book!
Are tickets of terror pay only?
luv ya and dont for get about the stargazer💖
yes
Sad thanks
yes it is.. and you are welcome
Oh great, war room is back. I suppose that’s better than arena
I like the arena!
Scopely being Scopely. Buy one, get two and pay ten
Question. Why a big war rooms update now and a site note the months before?
more interesting is that it looks like they messed up the timers... right one can't be started but ends in less than a day?
Are there any running Codes?
no arc codes
.... we have a new arc???? Lol
holiday events often have a pay to play portion, it's nothing new
I wanted tribbles to hang from my ships viewing screen... but scopely didn't do a tribble event for Halloween...
Do we know if Alliance Tournaments are coming back anytime soon?
Not this month. All we know
I wish they would run more concurrent events... it was nice seeing people have to decide to pvp or sit on nodes for Lat Rush
So no directives for Borg event interesting
At ops 25, should I have an SMS in here?
All I have is the Meta, but I won't be able to earn toward it
it's very funny how scopely roars his stomach to take out more than 80% of paid events hahah
There doesn't seem to be much point in having a Meta SMS to complete events when I don't get the events to complete....
Our war room reset to full with the claim button grayed out. 😡
You need to participate in order to unlock the button. Go pvp someone.
Thanks. Thought it was a glitch. Didn’t realize my alliance worked that fast.
Four members of our alliance on and completed the War Room in 56 minutes. Pretty sure the scoring on hitting bases will change next month 🤣
Why only G3 rewards for Nightmare Nexus: Borg - SMS!? Where is my G4 & G5 materials?
Ah yes, give me another event to grind, but doesn't give me the ore I need or was missing from the original event
I saw those points and raised an enemy, took all of 21 minutes with the 10 min shield lol
War room broken. My alliance completed war room to capacity quickly. Now members who do their qualifying pvp say they cannot collect till next cycle.
they need to do something that scores, hit someone opc or a station
They did and nothing. Room won't let them collect.
then they didn't do what scores
Many of my alliance have now had the same problem
regular pvp doesn't score, has to be an opc hit, or a station hit
They did opc
They've tried iso. Con lat etc and nothing
I am the only one that it's worked for and that's because I was the first of my alliance and I completed the event quickly and collected. No one since
have them hit someone's station
One guy has gotten it to work with iso. But others no . One guy hot 200k opc raw material and it should have worked but didn't
mine and dock some iso
gas/crystal/ore is during incursions
para/trit/dilith don't score
@dreamy patio good call i almost unlocked her
nice
i actually ended up grabbing 3 shards of her as the last of my currency to convert to dust since i already had her, heh
That's a great idea
was only thing really worth spending on for the last few k
Where to find
borg event, which this is replacing
Thank you
woke up today to the war room announcement, but can't collect anything
also, the announcement speaks of raiding and other scoring mechanics... there's nothing in game
Have you hit something
no, why would I? 😛
since there is no event talking about it
only announcement
lol
hit a station, instant finish
thanks
See that nifty little tool tip icon down below, looks like a lower case i that's circled? Fairly universal, hit those almost anywhere, not just in STFC, and it's gonna tell you stuff about the things. In this particular case, scoring mechanics of the current war room. Hit that button more often and on more screens and you'll find the need to ask becomes less as you end up acquiring the answers to many of your questions.
thanks for your very useful answer... that does not address the point that I am making. If there is no event in the in-game event list, and if I didn't follow discord, how would I know that a warroom event was running?
are you going through all the screens in the game every day clicking every (i) button?
i check the war room every day for sure, because there's no notification in game. mine one isogen and you can get the rewards
if nobody mentions it in your alliance chat, time to find a new alliance 🤷♂️
Or it's time for Scopely to make warroom or alliance tournaments more visible.
Maybe a reminder when you start the game or a frame like the one you have when you cross over during incursions or change the colour of the alliance button. So many options...
also i'm not THAT old 🤣
Or be like the treasury was. Have a sign that pops up after everything you do war room open hit stuff lol
Show it on top of the NEW video button after a restart.
Players: “Stupid treasury button, I’m not buying it anyway, why put it in the way?”
Players: “Stupid arenas, I don’t like it so stop putting the icon in the way, can’t I turn this off?”
Also players: “Can’t you make Alliance Tournaments and War Room more prominent to tell us they’re running?”
Scopely:
Different players saying that 😂
I have the exact same problem, I’ve restarted many times and still nothing. It’s very frustrating
restarting won't do anything, you need to go do something that would score, mine iso and dock, hit some opc iso, or hit a station
for some reason only 2 ships will join solo armada all of a sudden my monaveen will not join no matter how many time i press join or move it
It happens to me sometimes... I just manually send it to another place within the circle
FC Enlistment - SLB not scoring for XP or skills?
Just got kicked and can’t log back in
Whats going on .... game broke?
Same for me, game seems to be lagging hard
Nice, days before incursions - here we go. Maybe just shield and wait until after the weekend...
there is a red 99 on field training and its super lag on all aspects again....someone is testing that rollout oridk
Noticed the field training, too
wave lock-ups---15 mins to get rewards etc
Yeah the field training tab pip has slowly been getting larger all morning
Has anyone else noticed none of the nightmare events are scoring? I’m half way through the gorn and it’s just stopped counting!
It seems everything has stopped scoring.
I'm just an amateur programmer, but even I know you don't test on live systems.
...over the sounds of their own screams...
Solos & Expansion cube isnt scoring atm
same. zero scoring on the halloween events... <@&509690795536941056>
Nothing is scoring. I see a chest coming
Rebooted and scoring was fixed. Ymmv
BP Domination event isn’t scoring either
and as soon as i posted to discord... voila scoring returns!!!
@supple token lag on EU servers too
I'm more annoyed that a 3 chest pull of 4* during the bonus only netted 90 UC and 4 epic. 250k burned. The minimum floor for the ROI on these needs to be adjusted. Got more from my standard refine!
Not just a 4* problem. Same for 3*
Even the web store is lagging.
That's why most of us refer to it as the "bogus refinery" it's very prevalent when refining 4 star as the "primes" you get for them make the regular refinery much better than what they call " bonus"
Incorrect. #🏆-event-chat message You said there's nothing in game about scoring mechanics. I answered you with, admittedly some amount of playfulness at your expense, but with an answer that would allow you to seek your own answers in the future and not rely on others. Teaching you to fish, so to speak.
And no, I dont have amnesia. I learn these things, and then I know them. I have no need to read every tool tip every day.
In my Trick or Trek SLB bracket, there are 27 people with the same score - 3rd place through 29th place. What is the tie breaker mechanic for this?
Number of packs bought
ties are broken randomly in slbs. but the borg armada slb gives out candy corn so that should help break up the ties and there may be others.
I really wish we had a heads up for this kinda thing, though. I ran 7 borg solos the day before the SLB started. smh
Just had a Epic crit and only 1650 points 🙈
@s... so for those of us that got hosed on mon out of the tc points because trailblazer event not up will we get a comp
Straight up pay to play now huh?
Yes, and at the rate we're going, all events will end up being paid.
Right let’s see what Christmas brings 😂
That portion is p2p, but they've also given us a f2p halloween-themed series in another bucket.
but they messed it up, so i'm now getting a double load of crystal instead of the ore my new ship needs so much of...
christmas, the season of giving...to mega corps
I found the top player wins, even with the same score
So the last to claim
So whoever scores first gets least rewards?
Yes
The last to score moves to the top
The longer you wait to do the event, the higher the rank
Wow - seems backwards to me...
Is Incursions start time a hour before reset at 12est
time to sit on your corn
I'm surprised you got video evidence of them lol 😂
Just go mine the ore...
Thanks to Scopely for no Incursion prep events and Incursion on Halloween👍 🥶
raw ore that needs to be refined for small amounts is far from getting a stack of every type of refined ore.
additionally, the events give epic refined materials even before you can refine them.
no amount of mining and refining is giving me any epic G5 ore.
Halloween memes, hmm best wins $99🤣...Hey Scopley you do realize 99 buck buys didly squat for Canadians who are grouped in on US server🤔🤔🤔
I can think of so many memes about scopely and what they're doing with the game, that I don't think they'll allow me to enter them into the contest.💩 💩 💩
I've seen evidence to the contrary that discredits that hypothesis
It appears to be purely random. I've ended up behind people and ahead of people
hell, had a few times where i lost a spot to a person i was ahead of with no score change
Anybody heard anything about alliance tournaments,when there running another one?
No updates yet.
@dreamy patio it has worked for me so far
So, what’s the over-under on incursion being cancelled?
It's cancelled again?
@cosmic steeple how can i get more borgmada for this event? not solos?
Expansion cubes , solos , groups all counts
@supple token reactions in hallowmemes event channel not possible
i know they count, how can i get the directives to run them.
borg event they normally run they opted to replace with the halloween event
yeah i know, yet they neglected to even put in the store. ive had to leech off my alliance the whole event
not big enough for solos
I did a quick test here to show that last-to-score doesn't guarantee the top or the bottom slot in a tie:
#🌌-galaxy-chat message
what event action is possible when no game play can be had this afternoon?
Buy a pack
That should work 😂
Oh we’re doing mining events during incursions again
Yes, fun stuff. You can always tier up a mining ship
apologies for the ping if I missed an update about this, but I wanted to check to see if there is any news about improving the event store
Hey! Think that there won't be any more additions to the Halloween store. The cosmetics should be coming from events.
how can a one day shield fail applied it at 8am today and by 1500 it had failed any reason for this matter and very bad lagg in eu 114
What time did incursions start for the Day 1 folks?
Hasn't
It was supposed to be 11am est this morning. The incursion store loaded, but there are currently no incursions ongoing for the servers that are supposed to be participating.
Apparently you didn't buy the incursion prime.
Yep, no female ferengis to trade
@cosmic steeple 706 and 707 incursion is tomorrow?
EU 114 incursion was supposed to be today. If you are in a 20+ or Territory system, shields auto fail and you can't re-shield until you move to a lvl 19 or lower system.
Yup. Looks like the blog was updated so 706 and 707 are tomorrow.
Any possible reason my Kelvin and valdore didn't score as a loss in open system, my server during incursion.
this screenshot was from a few days ago, is it conceivable for Scopely to be more prepared when making announcements? The playerbase goes through a lot of effort to adjust their rt schedule to be available for these events, so when they don't kick off as anticipated, it causes no end of stress.
I've been posting about it for days, it didn't get changed until well after it was supposed to have started.
I appreciate the small gesture you have had in scopely Con with us, the Spanish players, by moving our bases and giving us a shield.😲
Yeah.. that's on me. The region breakdown should have been accurate from the start. Will do better next time.
Not in Spain yet all my miners recalled and res lost. Base relocated. Perhaps go back to school and learn geography along with coding. Absolute shambles. @cosmic steeple @supple token
well that's sad you were included. Somehow your IP must have matched the most recent geolocations database and found out it belonged to spain
but i don't think it was done with malicious intent, in the contrary even
Still a major pia. Losing res that took days to collect. Ip is in Uk and not been out of Uk for 2 years. So no way the ip can be tagged in Spain
And no I don’t use a VPN
Perhaps it belongs to a block that was allocated to Spain, or belongs to a Spanish parent company, did you try looking on a few geoip sites?
Can't say they've very accurate at the actual location sometimes, but the country is usually right
Geoip shows me where I should be
Here in Spain, the Dana has moved from Valencia to Catalonia. We are on red alert. We expect rains of more than 100 liters per square meter and hurricane-force winds.
@cosmic steeple @supple token How long are the incursions this time? Can't see that info on the blog postings...
24 Hours. That is the usual run time. Just experimented once with 12 hours.
mind out people when you applie shields today i put a 1 day shield at 8am at 15.37 pm it dropped just now i put a 4 hour shield and it only gave 3.36 on the timmer what are they trying to do ?// this is one bad glitch that cost me trillions
Major pia huh. It's pixels.
shields have never added together, it always replaces the previous
Stay safe. Thoughts and prayers to you and the family
i know that but at 8 am it said 24 hours shield, then at 15.47 pm the shield dropped just as incursion started. very strange that and just now i was playing added a 4 hour shield and it gave 3 hours 36 mins thats a con
Lag and timeouts are not fun. Lets have less of that
is lag ever going to be fixed ???
@bitter snow 👆🏻 spammer
So no point in even attempting to participate in incursions when I can’t travel between systems without my ships locking up 😡😡
anone know the promo code ?
aren't any new ones
i could have swore there was a haolowwen one
Are we going to have another round of Alliance Tournament, or shall we just silently ignore that part?
No word if there will be one this month, they're "fixing" things
Nightmare: Xindi event not scoring correctly(42 are 200 points not 300 as stated)
Double maintenance on 4th and 5th?
Why is Defensive Ops: All Out Defense even an event? Attackers get nothing for sending a ship there to fight except a repair bill so no one finishes this.
It's a paired event with All out Attack. One server gets one, the other gets the other. Both sets of pvp players will end up on the same server.
It's a way to finish the event, but there's enough pvp at raids that most probably won't need to use the specialized systems.
I never received trick and tribble avatar for completeion of event.
Not an avatar it’s a hailing frequency
Let’s hope it can be a selective claim all button. It not all the time I w at to claim everything.
2x 3hr maintenace coming. I guess atleast now scopely are planning for the "oh no its broken" maintenance....
Am I the only one here who's wondering why they hinted at a new forbidden tech called chaos tech?
Because they will just be replacing the grind they are reducing with yet another one. They did this once with freebooters, remember?
😡Every time our alliance has to defend a territory during an incursion, some group of 67s rolls in to crush everyone, while it's always been clear that the game is designed to prioritize profit over player experience. This isn’t PvP in any meaningful sense; it’s a setup that gives big spenders an easy path to bully smaller, weaker players, driving them away from the game altogether. The harm this creates is obvious: Scopely’s PvP system undermines player retention and engagement. Until they address this pay-to-win imbalance, they’ll be unable to reach this game’s full potential.😡
This new building does very little for the regular active player base. All of the ships covered are maxed or nearly maxed. So I'll still be grinding the other ships, plus grinding a new building
This game's full potential was realized 3 years ago. It's been downhill ever since.
Is there a hall of shame for incursions? If so put us (188) on it 🤣
Still time to turn it around
I grind the incursion event like cr@zy only to find that the incursion points are from combat ships in my own server rather than invading the other
@cosmic steeple Kira's gone AWOL from the event store. I only spent enough credits fo 20bps, and now she's been removed from the line-up!? I was looking at using the rest to tier her up, and i can 100% confirm i've not spent 100bps worth as I used the other event credits on ODO
Hours wasted for nothing. Classic Scopely demotivating
Last event I got like 30 amalgam shards. Because of this garbage I can get 1
I would literally have gotten more incursion coins if I sat in my own system and got fed on.
it's more about raidin bases and loot more than the rewards. You can claim Trillions from the other server if you go hard
oh and bragging rights for about 2hrs or so after
I raided a base and got about half a billion. But it was a slow grind without an amalgam. Incursion coins from hitting combat ships (or dying to them) in my own system would have gotten me said amalgam
Wasted event as a result
I have a grand total of 150 incursion coins
I killed 50 ships in pvp - just while invading as I didn't spot it had to be own system...
F*&#
Scopely really knows how to twist the knife
how many incursions have you taken part in?
This was my second
Started and quit 4 years ago, joined a few months ago when every incursion event was being cancelled. First was last month
That one was a blast even though I got smashed
Lemme check to see if there was a limit on officers
100bps, which i only got 20 before she was dragged away
For all officers?
yep, i checked with my crew
I see a 50 limit on Kira.
there's only officers available, what are you supposed to spend on after that?
According to the screen
Is there a spend event tomorrow?
I wish to thank Scopely for making the Nightmare Nexus event truly horrifying for all newly ops 40 players. The addition of Xindi level 40 hostiles was such a nice touch. Just like a nightmare the end is right there but way outta reach. "Oh you only have to kill 25 of them" yeah nice when you can't even kill one. So thank you Scopely for only thinking about your Highest level players and your fattest walleted players once again. It's nice to know some things are consistent no matter what the occasion. For all you struggling little slugs out there like me, be reassured Scopely cares nothing for us. We are cannon fodder and do not matter.😡
Level up?
<@&509690795536941056>
I'll check.
"Level up" Which part of "newly ops 40" did you miss? Or was I too vague when stating it that way? Seriously!
Thank you
Yes, there should be an alternative for every event. We have some lower members that can't do any of these events
Trying to help out an alliance mate ops 41 with xindi hostiles. Any crew suggestions?
Which means one server gets all the attacks and people searching for targets while the other side gets much desert people going after them. It's so fair especially because my server has been on defense for like 10 times in a row. That's right, we've never been on attack role since they rolled out this split setup. Gives me so Much confidence in their RNG system
Archer Tucker phlox is the best crew. But otherwise pike tlaan cath. If they're desperate they can see if a tal crew could kill one or two per hull
Once your SMS is finished, you can rob people on the other server. Since the active pvp is on yours, there should be fewer defenders to stop you. 😈
Janeway synergy? Key is not having Hugh below deck and doing the Ex-borg researches (Particle Beam Delay and critical damage floor)
Yeah doesn't really work tHat way. All the big players with lots of RSS are active and playing on our server. While the remaining are usually inactive low level players.
That’s the point for the sms. All the active people are on one server so it’s easier to finish it.
sure but the attacker's have the advantage because there's more unsuspecting ship and inactive bases they can hit. this would be fine if it was 50:50 chance to be attacker and defender. but instead, we've been defender EVERYTIME FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, that is dumb
i usually go into their server upon open and usually clear out abotu 200-300 ships every time and i never get any damage points for the slb because of it
Bad match. Got a buddy on 201. Their the only server undefeated still i believe
Do we know what type of material Event we have today at reset, xslb, new officers, etc?
So we're really not going to get even one terror event ticket as F2P?
I would rather spend my event winnings on tickets than the poor selection of officers available 🙄
Can we have all events on at once woth all event stores on at once and scopely can then see what is the most popular
Is the new arc still starting on Tuesday? does anyone know what the Monday maintenance is for?
6 mins into incursions, not a fear of that score being right
<@&509691205798592532>
I seen something similar for yesterday's incursions on other servers
they probably found a big base unshielded
not really surprising
It would be trivially easy to get those scores if someone was sleeping in a suppressed system like in Origin space.
territory is very easy to find bases
Nope I asked no base was raided yet by other server they are also suprised
there are dozens of people
a couple people responding they know nothing does not really mean anything
The enemy team tells you they aren't raiding anyone, and you believe them?
Can you please fix this? We shouldn’t have to be penalized for actually winning
seriously in incursion if they do not renew it and do not punish those who give away would be the worst event that there is currently apart the gap for competing in the rewards is a disaster but well they are so stup!d and inept administrators and programmers is nothing new
it's possible someone got a whale, and everyone jumped in, once a whale cracks, the points pile up extremely fast
Where do you see when there are PvP events going on? I recently redownloaded and got attacked while mining and someone said it was an incursion event. So I’m like okay I won’t mine. No biggie. So I’m looking around to find where this event is to see how much time is left and can’t find anything about it.
I’m ops 24( upgrading to 25) right now. Is that event progression locked? Like by level or mission. Because I don’t see it
Than you for sending the picture of where it should be located at!
When did you go to op25 as it should be showing for the lvl
Well there’s your answer 🤣 next time for you then hopefully
Wait then why was I able to be raided at 24💀
You only don’t get the events , you can still be attacked
How bout that
That was a bit one sided. Wish I'd not had so much work, only got to 58th place in raiding.
For the prime lag.
Right? Now the burning question is what is the highest score ever made in Infinite Incursions 👀
I'm very curious too.
For all the 💩 we've talked about Arena, at least it is way more fun than incursions...
Incursion is lame. I was done to 20 minutes. We lost badly thxs to whales. Meh.
Jason NeSmith what am I missing about this officer? He’s the main reward for this material event but I just think he’s shockingly poor so is there some kind of combination? What am I missing?
I guess if you have the ship
I wouldn't spend on it anyway
The golden girls are starts next week
he's not that good until t4+ or so.
pike/moreau/nesmith is pretty solid. i think once more apex barrier for pve is released, itll add on and make a difference.
I've been using SPike/Ortegas/Nesmith on my Monaveen to auto farm over night. Does pretty good. Other than that he's pretty meh imo.
Is anyone else’s nightmare have an open event that you can’t score in
What you hitting ?
guess u were hunting hirogens, they dont count. the lost ones do
You are not missing anything. He’s not that great. I can’t find a use for him other than away teams.
Are you killing lost hostiles or hirogen. Only lost count
yall really really gotta figure out daylight savings time...
im not 100% but i swear i just watched all the events go from being below 1 hour, to adding an hour.
So they removed the Talios at the reset from the incursions store? I was so close to getting my second
I've tried both PC and android, cleared localization and it's still in my alliance mates Stores
they messed up the limit.
it may say 50, but it's closer to 20.
I hadn't purchased any shards yet I was waiting until after our victory to spend all at once
Why are you buying a talios? It's from a mission with ops38 iirc
I'm getting a second Talios, It was available for purchase when it launched originally and I wasn't high enough to buy it or get it at the time, primarily for double ships for OPC hunting, and during the Mega cube event monthly as I hoard all of my Borg Solos for that time, I am doing non stop borg solos and not able to readily help out the alliance with Expansion Cubes or Mega cubes.
Plus I want a second
So they are having an additional Maintenance tonight (our local time) - same time as Arena event. Any word on if they give out a comp chest or similar as we cant run it?
And how do we ask that the Arena event be moved to another day so people can actually mine for the following day's event without getting all their miners recalled from token space.
Hm it’s still there in mine too
I don’t event have an event today
Nobody does event is over
Nevermind, that guy paid for the other ones
definitely want to know this as for alot of us in APAC maintenance is the time we are usually online, which means we are losing out. <@&509690795536941056>
I don't think CM's works weekends...
from what ya'll do to em during the week...they need a break
An unmanaged community is just anarchy
matched twice in a row, and the lag is that slow i cant do anything even if i could fight them
i mean....a valdore vs a whatever g6 uncare called, totally fair fight
Ops 35 + T9 Vi'Dar.
So I am going to miss season pass because server downtime is when our 2* TO starts. Any compchest maybe?
This app should be called Star Trek Comp Chest
Or Star Trek Maintenance That Doesn't Fix Anything
I just got an equally egregious match 😅
the matching is soo bad..
I dont know how they match/work it out.. but whatever it is.. it bad & wrong.. Ive seen so many shocking match ups..
next you can buy a fair matchmaking for 99.99 €/$ /£... per match and player
Maintenance during arenas?? Only time I can play is after kids asleep and bam! maintenance
Should’ve done maintenance 8 hours ago
and the best of all tomorrow next maintanace for 3h... why dont know
tomorrow is the ne arc
why we have maintenance today has not been said
prepair the game for implementing new bugs
Maybe today is to implement the quality and tomorrow the quantity?
They are implementing a "Claim all Bugs" button to help with maintenance tomorrow. No more 1 bug at a time nonsense 👍
I like that they have planned maintenance for tomorrow, to correct the breakages they will no doubt cause today 😄
They really need to just have a standard comp chest they roll out every single Monday. Just because we know they will screw up somehow suring the week
so, they did not change the matchmaking yet? even if 90% of players have ranted for weeks?
i can't wait till my 42,46,47 ops team get matched with g5's
nope, its still awful. 9 matches in a row where opponent ships are 2-4 tiers higher than our highest. won zero of those games
3 losses scores more then a win
3 losses score -45x3
No 400x3 >1000 if you're interested in the loot pull
Who cares where you are now on the board. You need to hoard loot first
Arena ranking is irrelevant if you want the loot for the faction store unless you want to go for certain research. I agree with loot hording. Let the heavy players reach their high rank first which will level the field.
If you can't win a game? Big deal. take your loot and try again
Only need to be in Bronze 1 for one of the best favours from Terran store. But it's Hella expensive.
Syndicate?
G4 ship credit cost efficiency.
Hm. I can't argue with that one.
Temporarily
Let's beat the game together. If you start in omega forfeit match.50% odds -50 200
Nearly everyone grows
You can't inflate egos by being helpful
how do you expect that this ops level grouping for pvp could be enjoyable? 🤡
arena cal! how can you fight with 60+ level even ships are not comparable in strength
just live with the death ^^
are they going to adjust Arena Start times for DST
Alliance member at ops 48 just matched with a group where opponent was ops 60... Working as intended
You’re higher ranked by quite some margin. Probably overpowered the ops difference.
Did you guys win? Was it close? I bet it was hella fun
😄
its like this all over. Matching is Terrible. Scopely you are really sucking the life out of what COULD of been a fun addition to the game. 7 up and down is ridiculous 🤬
can someone explain the matchmaking algorithm then? because it looks to me that something is amiss
the +7-7 should be checked first (related to the starter), then from the pool of options available sort by ranking (of the starter) and match that
no way should it be possible to have ops 46 starter matching a 56 starter (regardless of ranking)
yes its rubbish
It should be the case that only the group that has the right ships plays against each other. example: 42-45, 46-49.
It can't be that I, as a 45, have to fight against a 57.
I sort of agree and sort of disagree, mainly as tactics can make a difference (although you’re very dependent on them being rubbish and your being awesome at this extreme) but also how many times do you accept not having a match at all and then not completing the events that you can complete by losing?
Everyone is so focused on not losing their ranking, ignoring that the Lv56 is going to get to a higher ranking than you, either by beating you or beating someone else. You may as well take the L and at least get the credits and event points.
That’s my take, anyway. Yes it sucks to lose but you can lose and go down or not lose and go down, and one of those options comes with event and participation prizes.
yes you can lose, but against someone who is stronger it is inevitable. and that spoils the fun of it.
this arena is more about tactics than raw power, I agree. we have beaten teams that looked very much stronger (in theory)
but there is no tactic that can beat an ops 57 with speed crew just killing off every of our ships
as for the "not having a match at all", maybe this would change if more people participated. And for that the matchmaking needs to be better, and also the running time cannot be on the middle of the workday
59, 62,63 vs 64,64,70 was our last team. How to beat 70?
tactics. I don't know what this is supposed to look like, but this will definitely help you. 😄
Well.... there is no event for the arena....you only do it to gain tokens for the terran rep and credits bundle in the faction store....but if the pairing is 90% of the time this unbalanbced and you loose, this said bundle has extremely low rewards compared to a higher rank....
Last week I lost all my fights and dropped 3 ranks and it was a hugh difference in terms of terran credits and rep I gained last week compared to the week before.
I wouldn't care so much about my rank if the impact on the faction store would not be so large. But if it stays like this most of this faction store will be unachievable like forever
But you’ll go down anyway is the point.
Like a cheap date.
There’s only one point concerning Arenas, and that’s that it’s just too narrow with 3v3
Biggest wallet/player wins, plain and simple
Whether they beat you or someone else, for them to go up, you have to go down. You can either get credits while you go down or not get any.
Welcome to STFC 🙂
I don’t disagree.
no I rather skip the whole thing, as it doesn't matter....i get so little credits in the faction store that all the officers and favor would take me years to unlock....so it makes no sense to participate...especially since you cannot do anything else at the time (other then go afk and do things that have nothing to do with STFC 🤣 )
Tactics were somewhat there with 5v5, and been seeing ‘smaller’ teams beating the ‘bigger’ ones because it comes down to better dynamics then of the running around & chasing & distractions etc.
But with 3v3 it’s just too simple and easy: Biggest players guards & shoots, his teammates score points, and the opposite team just gonna have to go pick their nose or something and sit it all out…
It wouldn't be so bad if the Terran faction store was only based on Terran Rep. Them having things gated by both rep and rank is what's the issue.
I agree, with the basic proviso that I cannot participate so I can only go on what I see here on that.
The main thing I'm aiming to get (and probably a lot of other people too) is the FKR credit efficiency favour. Needs rank of Bronze 1(G4), and then needs 12k of the Terran credit things. At my current rep level I'd need to open 60 chests for a cost of 18k arena credits(single pulls daily), which is either 18 wins or 45 losses.
Getting the wins/losses would be fine bar the part of going on a massive loss streak and falling down the rankings, it feels too easy to fall down ranks compared to the accessibility of climbing up ranks, especially considering that the main factor is basically just "my wallet is bigger than yours", rankings would make sense if there was any form of skill involved.
well, for most ranks (gets worse as you climb), you need about 30% win ratio to keep your rank, which is ridiculous with current matchmaking
They should have just loosely auto ranked people based on ops to avoid 90% of the issues people are currently having.
Scopely, regarding last Faction Hunting event, most of us could not finish it due to the 2 hrs delay in the maintenance. Are you planning to extend this event or not?
Had some decent fights in arena (when it actually works). The feature is great but the technical infrastructure obviously can’t handle it - lag lag lag yet again. Couldn’t launch ships into the arena for 2 mins when it activated until I restarted twice. When are you going to start listening scopely??? It’s beyond anger and simple desperation - we as a community want to engage with your content but your execution and stability just prevents a good experience from being had.
EU server btw - as if lag is something new to us….
FH has overlapped with maintenance many times, unfortunately $copely never cares if you finish the event or not.
Enemy with 605 Mio Ship ! Forget it
It’s weird that the incursion consumable store stayed after the incursion, but using it took away our incursion win buff. 🤷🏼♂️
This is pure jokes. The match before had an 800m Crozier.
If only they did the bare minimum and had pairings based on an average of the teams ops +-2 or similar.
all G4s against all high level G5s shouldn't be happening. Scopely couldn't organise a bun fight in a bakery it seems.
I’ve seen 40s go against g6 teams
They won’t admit it but there is zero actual matchmaking algorithm, it seems purely based on the speed of making a matchup quickly.
"Ranking propably overpowered the ops difference" means that they can explain what could've happened without knowing in detail - he could have also said: I don't know but his answer feels more like "your ranking- your fault".
Not sure if anybody at scopely cares at all as this bad matchmaking lasts for weeks already without any official statement about it.
The matchmaking is a black box to us and as they don't give insights I personally have to assume its 💩 .
At this point there is no matchmaking algorithm. Rank doesn’t have any weight from what we’ve seen posted, nor does ops, or account power. At this point the only criteria seems to be how quickly it can throw you into a pairing. That’s it.
Otherwise we wouldn’t see bronze ranks with a silver 3 going up against all gold-rank squads, along with an ops average disparity of 12+
Funny is that people like HarmoniousDeath always deny the obvious facts until you come with hard evidence....
fix your matchmaking, as it is monumentally stupid. a 53 and 2 56 vs 2 62 and a 65? really? i'm sure someone put a lot of effort in this rubbish
Some people just like to be contrarian and apologists because they feel it has to be done no matter what.
Sadly they still don't get the fact that we don't want to win all day but a competition where participation makes sense. Win some, lose some - all good.
A certain rank where you cannot go higher cause your not strong enough - also good.
Getting randomly owned by a OPS 70 while you just got your first G5 epic - pointless.
Getting the same matchup at the next match - squad dismissed.
It's hard to get people to play this. It ain't fun.
this is why arena will be a wasteland in a few weeks, like the ranked scene in other mmos, because the same mistakes are being made. then when the whales cry that they have to fight their peers, maybe someone will attempt something
the arena matchmaking is nonsense we were 48/55/62 and we fight against 65/60/59 just insaine
@cosmic steeple arena lag is awful mate can’t see what’s going on, I’m on 131 for reference
56vs64 - the stupidity of the developers is annoying
Get a grip Scopely. You expect us to be interested in this??
This here @minor furnace , also explained by the ranking? Wallet ranking maybe…
To an extent, yes. Bronze vs silver.
Higher level, but lower ranked is that?
Keep improving the matchmaking in arena please, an ops 50 shouldn't be an opponent for an all 4x team, the difference is just too big
Whoever created this matchmaking should get fired, inlcuding everyone who said: hi our matchmaking is good, lets do it
match up working as intended 🤣
Arena's are a joke. 8 hrs, I'm gonna be out with kids activities can't get a group together, so yeah i just get to not participate, what a great feature...but hey let's not bring back alliance tournaments cause they aren't up to the expected standard...but arenas are...yay! 🙄
what about having choice with 1 vs 1, 3 vs 3 or 5 vs 5 and more rewards for the 5 vs 5
I loved the first one. Skipped the last two, and skipping this one. Join me
Match making 😂
Of course alliance tournaments are coming back but not as often, rewards are too good for it to be that frequent
Same as always: 1 or 2 G6 piliots completely destroying all the level 50s. FIX THE MATCHMAKING!
I mean you are in the up to 65 bracket aren't you? Plus Gold at Ops 57 is punching up for sure
As you are leader you are putting everyone in high brackets, lowest lvl and lowest rank should match make
yep the other 57 should have create the arena
how about you guys actually put something in the game that works 2 back to back arenas where not only should the targets i attack be destroyed but can a magically join armadas after the 10 second timer starts, i dont mean only just i mean with 6 seconds on the god dam clock, not to mention the missmatched gameplay how about you SCOPELY as a company take the money they milk out of their player base with their "specialty ships" to get some decent server support because what ive just had to put up with make EA loot boxes look good
Just no comment....
I’m not the leader, and we won 😂
Yeah that 1 level 60 runs the whole show, never even had to repair a dock. Arenas dont work when you mix G6 with G5
So what was the problem then 🥴 The gold ranked player shouldn't be matchmaking
We are with 3 G5 players matching a 59,64 and a 65.
And i don’t have a epic G5 tbf.
this is a matchup should even be considered
I see it can be even worse 🙈
Once you get to a certain rank you can come up against anyone of any Ops lvl, thats the way the system works or higher Ops player would never find a match in the higher ranks, every Ops bracket is going to have a limit on the rank they can achieve. At 50-60 it is likely Gold unless you get boosted
Until every big Ops gets out of bronze and silver quicker these match ups will keep happening
that is highly unfair and an extremely poor mechanic
there are many big players who are keeping themselves in Bronze just to troll smaller players
So you'd rather rank up and never find a match, which in turn means you can't net any points for daily chests?
Horrible way to do matchmaking when skill ceiling is so low. Even a PvE crewed ops 60 noob is going to crush the gold ops 50-59 players
no I'd rather have fair matchups instead of this
I see 90% of the players skip this event, so it’ll probably not change quick.
If your research is good it should not be that way, at least not against pve crewed.
You'll find very few Ops 57 in Gold tier atm you'd never get a match at this stage
Best option drop the gold ranked player he's too high rank for you to get fair matchups
Best thing is we can forget about it for another week now😂
Got to laugh at people saying the matchmaking from scopely makes sense because of people ranks, absolute nonsense. If that was the case things would start to get better, yet it's exactly the same, getting teamed up against massively overpowered teams that use speed crews and destroy everything. All the nonsense about how it will improve next week, when the heck is next week? Next year or 2030? Scopely need to actually give a damn and fix this garbage before it puts people off the game
so those who actually take part and are in the lower end of the brackets for it are yet again punished for trying again
All the skill in the world is not going to let a 56 rare beat a 60 epic. ship grades just dont work like that. Rank based matchmaking is a failure
Way it's going, this nonsense is going to end up like Starbase Assaults, the "updated" field training, and Alliance Tournaments. Ignored and forgotten
Like others have said not everyone is highly engaged and also some are keeping themselves low rank on purpose. Sandbagging exists in all games and that is difficult to match make around
Alliance tournament wasn’t that bad, I would like to have it back. Now invested stuff and it’s only halfway because it wasn’t back.
a 49 can't beat a 56 on any planet regardless of skill
Tournaments werent bad no, but Scopely are saying they are broken. Of course they are, with the amount of p2w stuff you can buy from there, why exactly would they want to keep running those things and let people get free stuff?
It works like that and research is the most important investment.
My sanctus isn’t that bad and he wasn’t stung.
A free to play and a pay to win can have a competitive matchup is they are both flying G5 ships, but when you mix G4 G5 G6 the higher grade is always going to win regardless of skill or reseach/FT/FC
I can tell that is a Tantalus kill with iso dmg primes, seen enough of it myself
Who me?
I have Metreon cascade warhead.
yeah that rott started with 2% hull I bet. No amount of research shows that outcome with full hull starts
and your ops 60, not ops 59
I don’t see a difference , my r&d isn’t even upgraded. But fine if you don’t believe it.
Vast majority of the time, ops 60+ with G5 epic will wreck anything below them. To say you have a chance is nonsense
Pretty sure we matched you today and you did not have that equipped then, I remembered the CptPhoton name from my matchmaking and he had the lot
You guys from PHNX by any chance?
That's a baby rota too
That's exactly my point
We are from PHNX yes, i don’t have the Tantalus.
MU crew is blah on Sanctus. You probably would have whooped them with Freeman.
That I very much doubt
Sanctus is front loaded with its FP. Freeman doubles all that so you end up with 14 shots on rnd1.
I know the guy you lost to in that screenshot
Matchmaking should be based on $ spent and nothing else
Even if I doubled my shots, exactly what difference would it do? My hits did nothing to that hull, it was left with over 700m hull, if my shots doubled and I did 200m damage what would change?
Hull breach multiplies crit and iso damage. Huge difference. You would still have lost though
Well you'd have double shots, plus basically all of them would be crits, and you have the crit multi from HB, and the massive increase in iso dmg. So you'd have increased your total dmg 3 or 4 times(if not more). Thus you'd have probably won the fight.
Depends on Court of Q as well, given that will reduce crit damage, which will make a huge difference, plus primes as well.
Ok fine. Then you're eternally screwed and you'll never win, might as well give up and delete the game.
So I've done 3 arenas... I'm ops 60, had a 56 and a 64
First 66/68/70
Second 60/65/68
Third 68/68/66
Yeah fun.... You can keep your arena matchmaking.
That's the point though, there is a limit on how crewing, ships, ops and research will help when you are fighting people much higher than you. Had plenty of matches fighting ops 66+ with Akiras, Titans, Minervas etc, a G5 rare isn't going to touch them, and yet Scopely continue to bury their heads in the sand with the terrible match making. I mean based on what you are saying you are saying a player that only has G4 ships can be G5 epic ships? There was match with people in 40 ops fighting people over 60 ops, explain how they are supposed to fight?
Like this one, G4 uncommon ships, fighting G5 uc/rares. Crew/Research wont help there
There's a few battle logs floating around of ops 50 using the NSEA to kill ops 59s with G5 rares.
That's rougher then what I faced.. Sry... Hopefully they fix that stuff or ppl will stop trying to do them
Yeah NSEA is weird, I wont this fight, probably because the really bad crew choice on an explorer, doesn't change that the matchmaking needs to be addressed
And in the situation that you found yourself in, in the shot you posted changing your crew could have massively changed the outcome of the fight. There's been people at ops 56 using G5 rares to kill G6 ships. So yes a G5 rare could and can kill a G5 epic.
I've seen high spenders using Saladins to take out Pilums, of course you can twist a battle log to make the game look competitive and fit a narrative
I've seen spenders use Realtas to kill kelvins.
The situation this particular person found themself in could have been dramatically different with a simple crew change to maximize the effectiveness of the ship they were using.
The NSEA has insanely high mitigation stats so it's power climbs really really fast. There's ops 50s with 800mill+ NSEA
Yeah the only way an ops 50 is getting that big of an NSEA is buying packs for it. So a whale.
And an ops 57 with a T6 G5 rare isn't a whale? Bet the NSEA cost less than it would have cost to get to 57 and then T6 the Sanctus.
And yes they obviously had to buy packs since past T5 the NSEA needs G5 mats, I believe one of the people said it took them 8 of the launch packs to get the NSEA to T11.
Bravo Scopely such a fair match
I still like arenas. It seems to me in this, oh this isn't "fair" cesspool of a discord, has the same people that complain about every new loop and they come out day one saying it stinks, and they are not going to do it.....these are the same ones today who are vastly underpowered for their ops lvl and now complain to Scopley to make arenas fair. You cupcakes make me laugh 
Another fair match
Yep only the fairest
Wtf Scopley!? Why even put a level range. How is this fair. Straight BS!!!
that player was extremely weak on research, even with max Titan fortification + Cerritos boost he got nowhere
I'm actually considered over powered for my OPS but when a squad of G4 players is pitted against a squad of G5 it genuinely isn't fair as no tactics can salvage that matchup for the G4 players
Skill
So uh, matchmatching. Still 💩 . Wen updates?
It can be done
that example is flawed
show me an example where OPS 42, 43 and 49 can win against OPS 53 and 56
Skill over Ops
that's a fairer matchup than what I want you to prove
show me the example I asked for then say that as no skill can help the G4 OPS I mentioned win against the G5 OPS I mentioned
Dude that's one g5, 2 g4 against 3 g5 with access to g5 ahips
The pieces you'd need to win that matchup aren't cheap, and shouldn't be the norm. Even more, matchmaking isn't as fair as you expect it to be right now. Mismatches will occur while higher level players are in the lower level ranks. It'll take time for them to win out, and into their proper rank.
If you can't be satisfied with what I showed you then you will not be. Just go complained somewhere else
you showed no G4 player in your screenshot
many higher OPS players are choosing not to do arenas and are waiting as long as they can to start so they can rank up on easy street by walking over players who can do nothing against them
I'm ops 60 bronze 1... And when I started one we ran into two 68s and a 70...we had a 56 and 64 in my group.... Im with you.. Matches are obsine
I've found my fairest matches have been when I've been with players 1 or 2 OPS apart in the squad
I've been in maybe 2 that is consider fair.
When 1 player can kill all ships while the other two guard all the solos, we found ourselves waiting on the two minute repair timers
everytime I end up in a match with G5 players that happens to me
It's the perfect Strat for an unbalanced match. The fact that people are seeing it this early shows how the matches are unfair.
there have been times I've done that to OPS 48 players because they were so underpowered for their OPS
Yeah they have to come to you if your at the solos.. And if your overpower they won't or can't attack you.. Just kill them as they come to the solo... If you ask me it takes the excitement out of what they thought this event would bring
if they don't try push their luck by attacking the weaker members of my squad I'll give them a chance but the moment they attack all bets are off
I've unfortunately not been on the other side of equation, I've always been walked over lol....not sure how I'd be if I was on the power side of a lopsided match.
I'm fiercely protective of my alliance so will do what I can when I can to help them
OMG Scopely your LAG IS KILLING ME. These arenas are as laggy as all of your other trash. Seriously.
I can't find how to get my ships in the fight.
I see the score but it won't allow my ships to engage
Any help with arena
Congratulations SCOPELY on yet another pathetic mess of an event. Two arena runs tonight. Your system thought 51, 50 and a 56 were a match for a group of 59 and 60. Maybe you need to forget these events and actually spend your time on system stability.
If you unlock something in the Terran faction store, does it relock if you drop in rank or is it unlocked forever?
unlock but didn't purchase yet...
A squad of a 44, 48 and 53 should not match against a 52, 58 , 59 squad that is neither competitive or fun. Both times clearly mismatched major fail for scopely it was better 5 on 5
All the feedback I'm seeing in our AC is just frustration with arenas. Nobody is actually enjoying them. And running it the same night for only 8 hours? I don't bother even doing it.
Ops 42 (starter), 44, and 48 vs 49, 55, and 56!! What the heck $copely?! Matches have been like that all day today.
It’s fun when it’s a decent match
That was my experience on previous weeks, havent even bothered today
if youre not G6, dont even bother trying arenas. The matchmaking loves putting G6 in with G5s and they completely dominate
You had it easyyyy
Anyone else amazed how scopelys been working on this game for years and still sucks at it? It's quite impressive to be that bad at your job.
Loss is a loss. When they can speed crew g6 kill you. Doesn’t matter how big the g6 is
And you need ranking for the store. So these losses and terrible matches matter
Its "balanced"
Hey SCOPELY. The LEAST you could do is ensure that g4s aren’t going up against G5 rates and epics. You truly fracked this thing up. AGAIN!!
I'll be honest, that seems like a decently balanced match compared to others posted today
What’s worse. Your team does not have the guts to answer any of our complaints with real action
Honestly I'd kill for that kind of match up tonight
So you can screw the matching by Setting all Envoys.....then when matched....set YOUR REAL SHIPS
They were running Sanctus, quv and croziers 5-6 times the power of our highest guy. So, if you had worse, they REALLY fracked this mess up
I mean I personally haven't had worse since I got 0 matches in today, but some from my server have posted pretty bad matches here
I've went against cubes 20x stronger than me tonight
Just faced a level 50....who on match had 98mill power.....in game....USES 175mill TRIBUNE!