It took me so much time to get enough xindi loot for a double pull - 5k to 7k per hull, 100k needed - and when i finally did i got the worst possible rng from the chest, 320 common, 320 uncommon and 37 epic. That was around 6hrs and ago and I've felt so demoralised i haven't opened the game again since, despite having nothing else to do. So much effort, so little reward, and the prospect of having to do that much work EVERY day - why would i want to play for that?
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so demoralized at the whole Xindi grind, i am just gonna call it an early night and log off.. gnite folks
For me, the xindi event ended today. I'm not going to waste my time doing it. I have no intention of spending all my resources on an event that I know I won't be able to complete.
This game at this point is a complete waste of time, same cut/paste garbage over and over!
800 kills for a 2 day grind to complete the SMS? What?
and they move so fast that it makes me dizzy.
at that ops you should have a g5 unc... no way its more than 100 kills
@pseudo rune I just wondering why we never got the 2024 New Years avatar ? or did I just miss out on something?
Yes I have a Corvus and Yes WAY more than 100 kills! Like a few thousands!
I think you overestimate how high the g5 unc can kill. Maybe 42 or 44
a g4 rare can run 44s. g5 unc can do 50s. The trit loss, though... 10s of billions of trit for a single pull.
t4 g5 unc doing 51s here
How much loot/hull?
Hmmm, I can get similar, about 10k, killing 40s with t4 Corvus, just takes eons. But still lots of trit bills
Yeah I can probably get a hair more loot in 46 land, just takes longer.
While I am getting a bit less with my t1 corvus, still 9-10k loot in a hull means you need 6 hulls a pull or 9 pulls at 55.
So 20+ billion trit a day farming. That makes sense?
So if someone had invested in increasing their base critical chance to something like 22% or 27%, they are just screwed huh?
in the short term, you will get worse results. Eventually, the crit floor favor will compensate for this - when maxed, your crits will do the same damage as a normal hit.
Thanks, I had bad storms and power interruptions yesterday so I haven't had much chance to explore the update.
$$$ will solve all the problems with the arc😁
Haven't spent myself, but know people who have bought packs to get all of the favors and the xindi grind is still a long slog that costs billions in trit every day.
Xindi Hostile Hunt Event Tip: Hit hostiles in Kertoria with the Franklin-A and Jaylah as captain. You will get 2-6 scraps per hostile. You don't need 22.5k ex-borg rep to complete this event. Tier 3 Frank-A with Jaylah-SNW Spock-And ENT-E Data on bridge yielded 200 hostile hits per repair. (Edit: Excuse me, enough hits to yield 400 scraps)
Very dumb question here sorry but I didn’t understand the terminology and couldn’t find anything on google yet, in terms of the events etc mentioning gaining borg favor to score, that’s ex borg reputation pts ? Or something else? Keep in mind I’m only op28 so if this is beyond my playing bracket then please disregard 🖖🏽👊🏽
KNowledge is Powerful event. The requirements may be different for you.
no worries.
when you get to Ops 39 you gain access to the Ex Borg Faction. You gain reputation by completing the (2) dailies that go with it.
if I've mucked it up, someone will correct me
btw, Ex-Borg Favors are bonuses you can purchase in the Ex-Borg faction store at the appropriate ops level/reputation level.
Gotcha thank you
Yes
🤷♂️
Scoply is good at designing issues that moneys solves.
Hey Scopely. You must have thought we have waaaaaaaaaaay too much trit when you came up with ANOTHER red to grind. Thanks guys! You're the bestest ever.
Whats the bet we get a ship next arc that is specially for Xindi hostiles ....
we are getting the nx-01
Annnnd whats its special ability going to be ......I wonder..lol
0% critical chance 😏
It won't be to get into my wallet
Wew the single pull chest on xindi is gonna be slow as mudd so I guess extra grinding for double pull.
Based on the officer abilities for the Ent officers this month the NX will likely be a trit mining ship
Archers ent
For only 100€
The nx01 will have a damage boost for the xindi, no shields at all but better armour and a reduced crit chance designed specifically for the xindi hostiles and the armadas they will bring out for them next arc. That's my betting anyway 🥃
The nx01 should be an explorer though, so maybe it will have a hull boost ability to apply on other ships
It seems that Scopely try to figure out how Money they can Squeeze out of the Players, but the Border is now reached. More People now will leave instead of Paying more Money. They overstepped with not a Touch of Shame ... at last they will Realize that that the Ex Players payed their income. If they stop?
No don't want yet another useless support ship as I'm ftp and only have the 5 docks and at 46 trying to do the xindi loop with a t6 Newton is painfully slow and expensive to the point I'm thinking of leaving it be till they improve it or I get the exborg credits to up the rewards per hostile
I'd rather have the nx01 that can go and kill them and there armadas next arc like the defiant, monaveen or talios not a useless support like the cerritos or titan
@sleek stream it's basically a Franklin...change my mind. These are super swarms basically
The new ent is a Franklin in a dress
If no/little shield and loads of hull, it could be worse. Could be a Sarco in a dress 😂
No, it will be a Sarco in a wig and dress
What happened to territory resets?
last I heard (unofficial date, subject to change) was 23rd, think it was via Rev
have we seen our monthly even calendar yet?
yea, I saw that. Wasn't sure if we got one of those visual calendars though with the calendar layout
not yet
at least, not that I've seen ingame
chances are good someone else will spot it before a mod does
thanks
wow. ex-borg was supposed to help with the grind. way to go scopley. this is why people are leaving the game. too much grinding
they could increase the number of traders too, that would work for me, i can live spending 6 bil trit a day compared to 30 if i would actually grind
This should have been labeled heroic given how horrible it is to upgrade anything rare or epic to finish it.
Anybody know what Turf Wars Exploit is? Its on that calendar but not in the IGN schedule
Thanks. That was named differently - Turf Wars Exterminate. I guess we will see tomorrow
I was just going to post about that... so lame
My rewards for being an Ops 59. Maybe I can use the alb rewards to wipe my tears at the next 50bil dilith I spend on a research. 🤣
Dont worry guys, today is good day, it gets worse as the days go on 🤣
"Working as intended".
I mean...they did say Quality > quantity. I guess the low rewards fall in line with that. 😆
But today game works, tomorrow it wont launch, by sunday its gone from stores 😂
The level of incompetence continues to amaze 😂
Adding to the 💩… really? Avg player lvl in our alliance is in 45-55
@pseudo rune you folks are so generous ....
It will have an huge impact on lvl 62 ....
Feel like christmas again
I'm ops locked on voyager warp range research and the farthest I can reach are level 47s, so what is the expectation here? That I kill 144 of them to finish this event? I literally CANNOT hit higher due to ops restrictions, not because I'm behind on upgrading my voyager
do lost count for this and they just forgot to mention them this time?
So to sum up. Xindi grind is insane, ALB rewards are a joke, and the Hunt the Hunter SMS is impossible... I can feel the quality.
Someone is aiming for a service reward
That with ghrush?
Don’t feel bad. I am limited to lvl 40 hirogen which means over 1500 to kill. Does anyone at scopely do the math on these events?
What level are you? and are you capped on voy warp range development?
JACKPOT 🤑
I know the mada slb is the bigger topic but....no lost hostile scoring??
Double heroic since it’s day 2
They think we’re swimming with FT upgrades when it’s so hard to farm for a single rare or epic upgrade
Only hirogens do. And i would need 200 to complete. Another event to skip...
ok, solution is apparently not to go for the hirogen elite that you normally kill with voyager, but the hirogen hunters in the systems with the lost and use a normal ship
They obviously don’t play or else they would realize it takes a month or more to tier any 1 FT
Came to complain about the ALB rewards, but complaints are already in - so nvm.
Everyday is an April Fool’s day at the moment 🤡
Hunt the hunters not scoring?
Anyways, I don't have time to do armadas, since I need to grind Xindi hostiles 10+ hulls on the corvus 😄
Yes and i would need 200 of these hirogens lvl 49. Or 120 lvl 50 which are a stretch
I guess they’re expecting me to have a g5 ship at ops 52...
Or a max g4 epic
More ridiculous grind
I’m killing the regular hirogen hunters where the 4* mats are in that area and am making good progress, like Padilac
@pseudo rune
sorry to say, but those rewards for the Armada alb still blows now its been fixed.
A days worth of syndicate XP
52s aren't terribly painful
54s kinda hurt though
woop de do
Annoying part is it turns out it’s really easy to clear a system of hirogen
Had to warp around to 4 systems to finish
My ship is 30mil, not 60...
The math for this arc is way skewed. Kill 350 hirogen in 24 hrs to finish event? Nope
this is first place for the g5 bracket but no g5 rare gas, why should a g5 player push for first?
Same rewards for g6 players!? Are you kidding me, Scopely. It‘s not worth the directives and the time
The rewards for the ALB are really poor as well. So annoying!!!
The Hunt the Hunter event has stopped scoring for me…. @pseudo rune Was scoring up to T3 then conked out with 780k left in event. Now it only scores in Armada Hunt SLB and ALB
That's the new quality 🤭
are the G4 rare loot boosts not working on the Xindi?
Armada hunt slb scoring rewards quantity.. so indirectly any unattended grinding ya?
@pseudo rune The hunt the hunters event is ridiculous without including the "Lost" hostiles. Refusing to do the event as it would take all day and night to hit enough 43 Hirogen to finish. This grind crap is getting way out of hand. They want us grinding 24hrs a day they can start paying a living wage or stuff their game up their hoohaws!
Can i get a pin code lock on ops upgrade? Was going to upgrade platform (4days) game bugged and started ops 49, no biggie 🤣
another impossible event, killing hirogen when you don't have the ship means you just have to kill 1000 of them....in other words it's to sell packs it would go faster
just kill the other dq hostiles
Other DQ hostiles do not count! Only hirogen and Species 8472 🤬
hirogen don't have to be hirogen elites
they're also relatively normal hostiles in the same systems as the lost
the spawn rate on normal hirogens is trash
There no putting lipstick on this pig event
yea you have to use 2 ships and hope the others in the system aren't just waiting lazily for only hirogen. 1 to clear losts, and the other for hirogen. + 2 to the daily grind factor
I got rewards is borg event and I did not directly participate. 😅 how does that happen?
But you did somehow lol
Did you collect a multiphasic key?
Like in officer section or web store?
Nope
Is it the borg enhancement event?
If you click on the event it will show a list of ways to score lol
Why don't you just give these rewards in groups of 800 so we can get rid of the useless currency after the month in over
Isn't there a few voyager token mining systems that are full of only 8472 bio ships?
I am level 46 and all I needed to do is kill about six or seven level 50 ships.
This latest arc has me considering quitting this game. NGL
Does anyone know when the Territory reset will occur?
23rd apparently but no official info on that yet
Thanks. I should relocate back captured territory system. I would feel silly if all those systems reset and I wasn't able to relocate there during its season reset takeover
Where are the battle pass missions? I've updated everything. I can't see them in the holodeck? @pseudo rune
i would like to know how to do prime researchs i am 25 but i have seen several levels 24, 25 and 26 that have achieved it but i have no idea how to do it.
Money or get the materials at about 35+ when scrapping LVL 28 ships
@untold juniper you should feel silly for asking how to play on here
Wouldn't be the first time😂
@autumn spoke delete the game before you regret
I asked a simple question if I wanted to delete it I would have done it a year ago but if you don't have a simple answer to my question no way.
ummm interesting I know it can be done because several people at the same level as me have done it but I can't see how they did it supposedly without money but so far I've only seen that by buying upgrades.
there's some that are free, some that are paid, and it's also possible that some people just outright did enough researches to hit 1200 points
The free ones you can access earliest is at 35 when you get g4 materials from scrapping the 28 ships , then you do some primes at 40+ when you get access to g4 materials naturally
there's some before then; it's possible that some people were expecting an event that scored for "any prime researched" and did some of the ones that used 3* or even the ones that are just RSS (or this might have been the first time they had enough rare 3* to spend on said primes)
I was able to solve it if you need money unfortunately.
They are
the drop rate is just bad, so you don't realize notice
haha
it's like a 200 scrap difference when i hit the 50s with picard, data 5/deanna or pike cath t'laan
We need a option to remove the ex borg faction from the faction Tab, what a complete waste
In the event Hunters player lv.52 has 9 milions last milestone. Why ? You did ops 52 3 days ago and no norhtcutt . You need kill 300 hirogens in few rounds or 400 depends what level hirogens you kill
no voyager?
Too weak
You should be able to kill at least 52s with a g4 rare, which would be about 45 to get to 9m
with what crew? no voyager officers here
define too weak - mine is stronger against hirogen than the corvus (and reaches further)
52 too strong
what's your research / ship level like?
Only 47 can kill
time to focus on upgrading it a bit then... can't do any of the +damage research for it?
the research doesn't... and that's a chunk of the ability
Ok
I'll be glad when I'm done with my research, almost there 😐
Too much time for game
that I can agree with 😂
Strong newton
much as I dislike it, they're definitely pushing us back toward having stronger ships
Just spent the last few weeks catching up on territory research 😅
started with the solo armadas and keeps getting 'more'
There’s also quite a bit of hull boost from the new facade building
pre-solos... just use a t4 whatever and coast up 😄
What's below? Hugh odo and health?
Hugh tendi Mariner grush
Grush for stats? Why mariner as I thought those base % boosts to attack were miniscule?
She has nice stats being attack/health focused, basically a mini-khan. Her ability is maybe 3-4% extra damage.
My 4th highest attack officer
thanks - i usually keep hugh torres and odo as one big happy lower deck family always, but with your gorkon thats a nice way to get her on the bridge
My Torres is only t3 so helps only a little bit below decks
How do I acquire the Binary Cutter refit for the Borg Cube? How do I get the refit shards?
Money man just like every other thing in this game
i think even that is ops locked, you cant get the cutter unless you're at a proper level. i don't see it nor does an ops35
It’s not available right now. There’s an event for unlocking it in a few days iirc
Hm actually though I think some people do have it
But I don’t have the pack either at ops 49 so I don’t think it’s an ops lock thing
9 ticketed events in 1 day?
This has been escalated to the team.
“Quality”
wish the xindi issue would be escalated
Event diary yet?
not a chance in heck I can kill a 59....I doubt i can kill a 55!
that just feels like adding insult to injury
scopely: "everyone should ops up faster"
also scopely: "why is everyone so weak for their ops level"
yet. i must say, as an ops 55 i blow up quite spectacularly on a lvl 53 as well
at ops 41 my cap are the 40s until I can up the floor. Have max beam delay
Feedback on Heavy Hitter: I'm OPS 55 in a bracket with OPS 63+... there is no way to compete against the damage difference. Within the first 30 minutes I was behind by 500T points.
you just need a Tier 5+ lvl 42 ship... or keep grinding the 34/5s and enjoy it
Webstore
Killing 40s one per trip - 79 or 179 with chest. Better than 35s I think. Also, the only 41 I have seen is the xindi survey ships. Warp of 100 puts the lvl 42 systems out of reach
I have a Pilum with Particle Beam Delay maxed cutting right though the level 40 Xindi 💥
apparently the value of the 2-pull Xi scrap chest doubled... it used to be 2.5x, now it's 5x. 🤷♂️ 🤦♂️
How many delay tiers?
3 levels to max it at 6 rounds
Isn't this xindi hostiles great?
After launching it, and everyone need to Hunt those things, come an event that is in the exact opposite direction, since we need critical hits to score in heavy hitter... And some people may haven't noticed, but you don't score points for "Cube heavy hitter" by killing xindi hostiles.
@pseudo rune I do say genuinely thank you for the changes made to the xindi rewards. Thanks to all the team 👍
Not here... And I'm curious @pseudo rune, do we get back what we already spent on in game currency?
After a restart, the change showed
FYI Scopely.....nobody is hitting xindi hostiles remotely close to their levels.....epic Scopely fail
And they ever got anything right?
There should be a comp chest for those of us who ground out 40k and could have got the same rewards for 10k if we'd waited.
@pseudo rune any chance of a chest pull reset ??
They said no
I've raised a ticket asking for comp chest.
wasting support's time with that
1 per trip... whats the repair cost per trip?
1 loot crew trip is an easy 1500-2000 by doing 34/35s throughout a day
It's never enough... is it? Scopely fixes an issue and people immediately move to "comp chest" rants. The chest costs weren't a bug, friend... our buddies at Scopely priced them where they thought they should be as part of the design process.... player feedback pushed them to reconsider. I'm grateful they did reconsider... because many other concerns have been ignored.
It wasn't a rant, they made a change that adversely affected players who had engaged in a new part of the game. Of course there should be comp for all those affected.
Any chance of fixing the timer on the ticketed event????? The SMS is showing 19hrs left, not 2d 19hrs. 💩💩
Good spot! Hadn't noticed that!
Does anyone know where the torvath hostiles are located for scoring in the cube event? Im thinking they are in G6 space.
Thanks CD. Let's just hope the 'Fix' isn't wrong too. 🤣
triple the cost or more causing grinding of 2-3-4-5 hours for a double pull was ridiculous in the first place. how about not letting scopely off the hook considering they already ignore thousands of issues reported via tickets per week and the issues go on for months with no fixes, just more arcs and more primes. yeah, fix the game and reward your players properly and promptly.
- add that on top of the absolute catastrophe of the most recent incursion which caused an ops57 and ops56 to flat out quit the game entirely.
Not g6 they were in a couple of the new missions, can't recall where tho sry.
Doesn’t appear so on the Database, looks trash
I saw where it was a mission but could find anywhere else. why would they mention it
thank
does isolytic critical damage count in the event as well?
some are in... Gorvagh 😄
this is broken. its a 3 day event not 24h @pseudo rune
What’s a torvath hostile, because xindi doesn’t count I know that’s not it
er...
not seeing anything about what it means
unless it's some internal name
OH
STFC.space - Database
The largest Star Trek Fleet Command (STFC) information site, featuring information on ships, officers, systems, hostiles, research and more.
Possible there?
forgot all about them
An update or so ago
The space nazi lobsters
The crew of the Enterprise under Captain Picard encounters a new alien species, the Torvath. They are distinctly non-human, closer to a prawn species, though on a much larger scale, with a much more visceral appearance. They are a technologically evolved civilization, and it will be revealed they have a high sense of culture. But […]
when they introduced the cube and the first set of ent officers
"make it so"
Ah right
Hello there <@&509691205798592532> , I have some questions;
Why klaa's ability isn't triggering?
If Hugh's ability can stack, (and it does, at some point...) If his ability is working, almost every shot is critical and that would mean more points...
That said, why so much difference between each hostile killed? In some I get 1.4 trillion points other's give me less than 250 billions points.
Klaa isn't a combat trigger, he's always active and should change the status of your ship when you manage it.
The Xindi event is still out of reach of most 40-45 range. Still a fail and evidence of malfeasance on the part of Scopely
Remember, quality over quantity content
maybe you should build something other than sally before pushing to 40-45
Why is this only for today? Does it re-extend if you complete the 3 ticketed events?
@pseudo rune I don't think this is supposed to end at reset
Really does make me wonder how Scopely are measuring quality vs. quantity!
Savings on quality control by substitution with unpaid moderators and palming off CCs with free stuff so they say they're misunderstood?
@pseudo rune Why the f did you guys double Voyager refine pull costs? It was already bad enough at 36k for 3x 8472 pull, Now 68k wt.f???
Did you just tier it?
No.
Every 3 pull I have aside from armada pulls doubled with that stupid update they did today!
What tier is your voyager?
still 93, 185.9 and 325.3 here
6 was last time I pulled. So unless the numbers were bugged last time I pulled nothing should be different.
T6 is 38.2k for double pull and 66.8k for triple before the update.
Ok so my last pull didn't go up in cost for some reason then cus I only paid 36 or 38 whatever it was.
Too many bugs in this game sheesh.
I wrote scopely and they say it is as intended
Will be fixed today after the reset with an event
I hope they account for the fact, that ppl might complete all 3 ticket events today and adjust the scoring on the make up event. That way you can save a ticket when do only 2 events today 😉
Can anyone remember what the Turf Wars Exploit tasks were?
disco pvp in beta systems and origin sector armadas?
Think that was the Exterminate event
that's true yes - thought you were referring to the last TC event that did run this arc
Was it something like mine and dock iso?
👍 cheers
they will launch ms3 and ms4 as separate event tonight
Assume you need 600pts to complete it
I hope so, didn't read the timer before I started all 3
Just read the announcement
Dev observation reveals the many of you do not play the event as it should be.... now clarified I guess.... close to same OP level targets, not the weaker ones.
Dev intention vs player desire....
Do you think it'll only be available if you got 300 points on the sms ? Or could we maybe score a rare ticket for 6 UC tickets if we didn't participate in any ?
yes, if you didn't participat in any it will most likely be a rare ticket for 6 UC, but you miss out on the Shards which you might need to unlock the rare officer
Play the game right ✅️ 😏 😎 💪
Has little to do with desire, players will always choose the most rewarding option. If the devs want players to hit hostile levels even with ops then the content should be balanced so that players are capable of doing that.
I think the dev made it clear that is is balanced..... or maybe... the players have not developed their own ships enough to defeat equal op level
Another example of devs not playing their own game.
Participants in the event are to attack equal level xindi to maximize the rewards
As stated in the announcement
The shortage is expensive to make up at some points of the game. It can cost hundreds or thousands for affected players. Making the content too hard is a thing, and expecting players to spend to overcome it is not "balanced" design.
Service commendation event that requires doing all 9 tickets events ends at event reset today...
Yeah I think the service commendation thing is messed up
Takes money to make money.... play the farm game I guess
It literally just came out yesterday, there is no way to do 9 ticketed events with only 3 released
Someone dropped the ball on that one
I'm not an economist nor a statician but I'm pretty sure the devs know what they are doing
Have you tried them yet? 😅
It's a hobby, not a business. Players aren't making money here. They punch down on the new hostiles out of necessity, not because there's any choice in the matter. There's been insufficient time to develop the pieces needed to hit even levels. Officer sourcing is too restricted on non-crit dps officers, and credit income isn't enough to get the favors that'll help.
If the devs had it right the first time, they wouldn't have had to adjust the refinery reqs yesterday. The fact that you point to the Scopely person who also is punching down(he's 42 hitting 40s, and he's probably least affected by their difficulty because 42u ships) is also pretty amusing.
I'm not of the right op level... but I get your point.
Besides I'm gonna make sure I have everything maxed before proceeding to the next op level
Which is why I'm doing so much mining right now...... completing dailies and missions that I can do instead of trying to do things that I can't do yet
Can't reach the "appropriate" system with a ship that can kill the Xindi.
Pretty poor content planning.
So, right off the bat, shields, splitting 80pct of unmitigated damage are incredibly powerful, which is why swarms die fairly easy (no shields) and why kirk/spock are such a staple early on.
Critical damage is also very strong for killing things first.
The new hostiles entirely ignore (and actually turn critical into a negative thing) both.
Yeah... I still don't have spock yet
I’m ops 49 and hitting lvl 40s is still optimal for me 🙈
So what is a good recommended crew for these new hostiles?
You may well have other options now by the time you unlock them
What ops /ships are you using? 😬
Sry... I don't understand
Ops 43. Only ship capable of killing Xindi is Augur.
I pretty much have all the recruits, been using Ent-E Picard, Ent-E Data and 5/11 for my crew, but idk if there is a better crew at the moment for xindi. I'm also using my newton
There's a balance to be had, people who max as they go often run into blockers for some events - can't research things if you maxed it all for ops, etc
It becomes pretty much impossible at higher ops
Pike cath tlaan for me on 51s, can't kill the 53s yet with anything 😂
Including the sanctus 🤣
Let's say it takes an improbable level of dedication and insanity...
That's a you problem.
Yeah, you'll be wanting a g4 ship soon 🤐
Yeah... I'm seeing that. Research events and what not. It is difficult to decide if one should research everything now or wait for the event then research.... it depends.
Save some first rank researches to blast through fast on power based events
First rank of any node is usually more power than the rest combined
Please be careful... I truly do not understand your statement... do not be mean to me
His ship caps out at warp 75 base, so the 44 hostiles are probably outside that
Is it supposed to be like that?
No, but they're sorting it this evening
I find myself needing to relocate my base sometimes so that I can be closer to the things I need.... I have a max warprange of 17 at the moment.
Also... grinding for alliance store items (relocation) helps me alot
That won't help 😅 pic as example
Nowhere to relocate to up there either
Why is your cube so small 👀
That's the other one l
Though the big one is also only t5
Or 6 maybe
Just doesn't get used much
Huh you actually got two?
Not entirely intentionally 🤐
Wow... I see.... then I guess maxing out officers that increase warp range and ship tier/level is the only thing I can think of
is the additional event already live?
Oops
WTH is this?
No slb today?
iso mining slb
Ugh
can anyone lend me 251k uc 5* so i can complete my SMS?
Excellence in duty does work out. Check the milestones and rewards. It had been corrected and will pay out the correct rewards for those completing all 9 ticked events
that tucker spend event is tad pricey for g5 players and below
same old bull different day.
Who's choice was it to cut 5* rares from slb's? Also: No sms's that pay out materials?
The events give out absolutely horrible rewards. I get 764B steel per day from the Monaveen, no way this helps to get me to play.
so wheres the armada/material spend event
mate that is a bobby dazzler
Only the sms this time, no slb
Man, the spend SLBs at least gave us a chance at the new officers, but I guess scopley thought that was too generous
yup too generous
https://i.imgur.com/NV5PQ4m.png
this is the state of my officers. im sure its the same for most of you, i unlock "new" officers 6 to 24 months after release
mines is nowhere near that bad
yeah mines close to that. they seem to hate sourcing beyond CC
i stopped spending. not even the BP. rewarding terrible customer service isn't something i enjoy doing.
yeah you are close to unlocking a few there
aye with what little patience i have lol
When is tucker av getting given?
Whales are cutting back on spending and now Scopely is denying lower players new officers? Are they trying to destroy the game to look for new jobs?
Scopely should add 100 lat to cube 2 day slb make it worthwhile!!!!!!!!
100 lat, are you trying to bankrup them? be reasonable
Are Scopely purposely trying to turn people off of the game? For a level 48, those totals in the Trip Tucker event are completely unrealistic
And he’s not even got great abilities either
Spending real money in the game is becoming meaningless at this rate.
Realistically, I can only spend G4 rare and UCs. With Scopely logic, I need to spend over 176000 RARE G4 🤦🏻♂️
Thank you for including particles into turf war exploit sms
I spent $45 on : 1 officer pack, 1 extra building queue, 1 extra research queue.
That all the money I will ever spend on this game.
I'm still learning.
I'm 3 weeks playtime now
I'm OP 13 and maxing EVERYTHING before I upgrade to OP 14.
Lots of grinding for me to get everything that I need to max everything out.
This will take awhile.
I'm in no hurry.
I understand everything I am supposed to do for my current op.... that's all I'm focusing on
Anyone know where the recruit Trip SLB went? It seems to have disappeared....
wasnt one planned.
Dear Scopely,
Congratulations on launching G6, and completely ruining EVERY leaderboard for anyone who has just entered into G5.
I mean, what’s the point of trying Heavy Hitters when an Ops 51 has to compete against an Ops 65+?
Or the Borg TD SLB.
You said you wanted to reduce the grind, you have succeeded, with a significantly reduced screen time to effect your stats as well.
@pseudo rune @keen ledge @modest frost
There is always ones during arcs... this is major BS
well appearantly not this arc .. they are experimenting what yields the best spend.
Is it just coincidence that the devaluation of our participation in the game started after Scopely was sold?
Maybe scopely should just scrap this game and start over.... it obvious there are too manY issues found ONLY AMONG HIGHER OP PLAYERS.
Spending on Officers has declined. So they are now testing ways to raise spending. Buy 8 Resource packs for $800 and you too can own tucker
Up to op 13 I have had 1 problem with this game.... if I have something unlocked right now or a mission given to me right now I do not necessarily have the means to complete the mission or get the rss to upgrade; because the dev have the story and resources needed for certain researches are not obtainable even though they are unlocked at the appropriate level
Base relocations are not cheap, so it makes it difficult to move to a location close enough.
That'll happen a lot. As you grow, and provided you don't get raided, you'll end up with what seems like loads of rss to upgrade buildings, then you'll get even higher ops and need so much more than you ever thought was possible. Base relocations you will eventually have so many of them you wont use them all
The prime researches are unlocked but I can't get the rss necessary to activate them because the rss are in system so far away and I'm not high enough level....
Not being high enough level to mine is absolutely 💯 rediculous
For example, I'm 45 ops, need 11.1Billion parsteel for ops 46. I currently have 750b in station and another 1.5T in tokens.
At the moment it's not about quantity but accessibility
Prime researches are usually locked behind a pay wall. Or at least the newer ones are
You can wait, which is better than buying packs to get the early primes, as they only require G3 materials
If the dev think it good that a research be unlocked at op 10 but then make it impossible to obtain rss to do the research
The prime researches that I have unlocked are not behind a pay wall
They have research you can do at 42 ops, but you don't get the mission which gives you the required materials to do them until ops 44
I say they are locked behind a pay wall because at your ops, the only way you can do them is paying. Otherwise you'll have to wait until you can refine the materials yourself
So the timer on the Ticket meta has been updated to the full weekend, but changed to 600 instead of 900, and reduced the T'Pol payouts? I waited until today to to yesterday's tickets with the messed up meta timer, and now will miss out on the full set of T'Pol shards, fun
That part is problematic
That's Scopely
They need to fix that.
Later on, there are entirely pay walled primes.. There's a list somewhere
It's the only problem I have with them right now
They do it, to entice you into paying them money. A lot of other games give you the option to buy things early or you can slowly grind them. These are no different
I think it's nigh time for all game developers to pay us to play the game.
If this was an idle game I wouldn't care.... but my time is money
I'm just a weekend warrior
This game is not for you then
I love games like this... but STFC is whack. Of all the game like this STFC is the only one that has such issues.
Scopely should just scrap the game and start over.
Technically, scopely does not need our money when they have backers like paramount
Scopely is the absolute worst company for Mobile games. they are Ebeneezer Scrooge in every facet
They make EA seem like the most generous giving company in the world
<@&509691205798592532>
But what I have mentioned is not startrek related so I'm just gonna delete it
I come here to understand why I’ve lost my progress. What a mess again. Thanks scopely
Don't tier up your borg cube. You may lose the Distinction Extinction - SMS event like I did...
#👾-bug-reporting message
The real game is coming to Discord to see if anyone can actually defend or explain the events.
@barren shale
How did it make you lose?
Can you complete “cutting it close sms” without Borg cube?
yes
you score extra killing with the beam, but killing straight hostiles with any ship will score
faster to kill without the cube actually
Ahh thank you
It disappeared. Only have 2 events now in The Borg Cube section...
#👾-bug-reporting message
oh wow, thats nasty!
That "solution" absolutely screws anyone who actually noticed the mistake and didn't blindly jump in before they addressed it 🙄
Is there going to be one of the Fleet Commander SLB events this month? I didn't see it in the event posting.
So how do we get the avatar?
@spiral current @modest frost Scopely. Please help me understand how Lvl 53s are competing against Lvl 64s? This has gotta change.
Commendation event yesterday never got fixed? And we are not calling them out on that?
Clearly that's scopely response, run event- bail on it
the fix for this week is this event
The fix means I could have saved myself 3 ticketed events😉. Thus no, not enough
Or, even better, the fix could be the quality we have been promised.
The “fix” screws out anyone was waiting to do the first day’s ticket events until the timer issue was corrected. I got the rare ticket, but missed out on 2 T’Pol and 1 Trip, even though I’ll have used 9 sets of tickets this weekend
Here's the Customer Service response...essentially don't upgrade your borg cube too quickly or you're out of luck for event...
@pseudo rune might want to tell players not to upgrade their borg cube past T3 before OPS 36 if they want to be able to participate in the borg cube events...or...fix it...
That is insanely stupid, even for scopely
How where you even able to? 😅 everywhere I've read says tier 3 is locked behind ops 36.. o.o or does having the epic at t6 nullify that req?
g3 epic t3 yes
Scopely screwing people with ops locked events? I'm shocked!
-Everybody who got screwed out of the borg cube due to ops locking when it released
Not missing a whole lot there
They are more afraid that ops60+ leave than ops53.
I am in your bracket with 52.
the moment the brackets split there's an incentive to stay at the g5 side of the breakpoint & right now it's strictly better to be on the G6 side
So, they made an event that requires Ops 36 to participate, and have a ship that can upgrade to the point it needs Ops 36 to progress to the next tier, but is perfectly ok to be at Ops 35, and somehow this is your fault? Blimey
Another try with alliance members to complete wave def after 2week pause. We reached wave 4……43 to 49 players. Ships in fight for up to 20sec. Lag is killing all fun.
Probably been asked already, long day at work yesterday, but no recruit slb this weekend?
Only the sms
Well that's stupid. We've always had a slb. Guess they are really hoping we will buy him
most people only get scrap from SLB anyway
Maybe in whale brackets, as a BP only player I’ve usually managed 25+ each BP
No. Most ops 50+ only get scraps from SLBs, down here we get full unlocks. Atleast we used to.
I typically have been getting my epic unlocked by placing in all 3 slbs, I don't retain enough mats to do an entire heroic sms, I mean they lower the points each grade 3 & 4 is worth and then up the amount of points needed. So to me the slb is way more beneficial than an impossible sms
Well I've been unlocking them over the past year, with the exception of the parts that release multiple epics. Still short a few on some of them
Run the numbers on the non heroic portion of the event (first 4-5 milestones) and take a view on if its doable
if you can do the first 5 milestones three times, you will get a full unlock. And for me, on my server, it is cheaper than any SLB ever was.
The cheap way to get Trip Tucker is using all 3 event weekends. invest ressources till you get 32 Bps. 3 times are 96 pieces ,and the rest goes over Battlepass
It would be doable if they hadn't lowered the value from 100 and 150 for the uc and rares down to like 50-70. Plus from what I have saved up in-between each arc never gets me past milestone 3, except once. So what you're saying may be true, but most of the time not a reliable factor for those that have to spend for upgrades just to stay relevant in the game. Plus where I'm at in the slb brackets, typically keeps me within the top 15 and never dropping below 25th each weekend. So again, for me, the slb is way better than the sms
Unfortunately, 5 tiers is a stretch for me this time around
You want officers without paying
Not missing many really
Ticket events not counting toward meta? Edit: never mind...just lagged about 5 minutes
Looks like I will miss out on 2 T'Pol and 1 Trip shard because I didn't complete the first day's tickets within the first 24 hours, even though I'm doing 9 ticket events this weekend. Didn't want to do it with the incorrect timer. All I can get are the two milestones of the "fixed" meta event.
What’s the plan for launching…
- TC Reset? Jan 16th? 23rd?
- TC battlepass?
- Wave/S31 battlepass?
Supposedly TC is next week so I expect Wave/S31 will be this week.
I heard the TC reset is likely the 23rd, but that was “tentative”. Just looking for an update / confirmation to pass along to my team.
we got notification of merge last friday, and it is widely speculated that merge will occurs on 22nd, a day before TC reset.
I want to ask, will the Ultra Recruit event ever come out? 
That makes sense! 🍻
Would have been able to do that anyway, but I’d also have another 120+ shards from slbs
Is the ticket meta SMS not updating for anyone else , done 3 shows I did only 1 , even though it's been a day I am waiting for this to update so I could get the 200 points rewards
@scenic kernel nah i went from almost guaranteed win to 0 chance for same money...its yo f.o. low level players
Anyone can explain about the Commendation event fix? I did complete 2 events before they changed it to 600 points, and then completed 3 more yesterday and 1 today, yet the first 2 do not show in the fixed event, i only see 400 points. Does that mean i am screwed or i should send ticket to support to fix my points? <@&509691205798592532> could you advise?
No reason to put in a ticket, you're not screwed. Today's event is the same rreward as if you completed all the ticket events last time.
But now i am out of tickets, so if i did not do the 2 events on the first day, i could have finished the commendation today.
If the event had been right, you’d have needed 9 tickets anyway
which is what today's event was correcting for
ok i understand, thanks.
The made the officers unobtanium for most. No companion slb and bp is light on officer shards imho
The new scoring for officer event is completely unreasonable. At my level I don't have 44,000 uncommon g3 just laying around. Can't even get to the first Milestone
So is the meta sms ending a day after all the uc ticket events?
@pseudo rune @midnight path Come on guys. There is zero reason to make these SMS scores where you punish players at lower levels. You all promised you would be looking at these and adjusting them, but all you've done if go right back to the 5x less scoring that you threw these out at. You think you are sending a message to move up, but that's not the message you keep sending here. You need to do better.
You have made every spend event heroic now.
and then there's servers like mine where we can't move up yet, sheesh
Is the gold rush event available for ops39? I don’t see it but description says ops10-70
Just finished the rare ticket event just realised no 5* rewards?
I've corrected the gold rush level restriction in #💫-event-information , it's a 40+ event.
is that always the case? had the same question on chat a while ago.
It should be always the case for this particular event. It's my understanding that it's the "whip" event, and pretty hard to finish without.
those rewards are so 💩 they don't even deserve the time taken to read the event text.
What level are you?
spend event have always been meant to be HEROIC. they never wanted free players getting full unlocks of epic without saving months of materials. since they want you to spend money. my only gripe with the event you show is that it was AFTER the recruit sms.
Spend event followed by another spend event is just nuts. Even with mine not being as bad, still like 1.2k in unc
Especially with no clue how worth while the other events in this folder will be...
the rewards for the meta of those sms is also a joke so pretty much skip it.
they should pop one per day, the meta is so underwhelming you can easily say skip it day 1. If there is a decent paying event day 2 or 3 than maybe worth picking off a single one.
mines is 285k, about the same as milestone 5 on the recruit trip heroic sms.
Yeah, I've heard some folks actually need the tier-up, but that stuff is overflowing for me
The protomatter would be nice and there might be a path, but yeah...it isn't worth it. Getting an upgrade on the Sceptor as an ops 39, if that happens spend events start being a lot more reasonable...
Hey don’t call these spend events, non of us want to spend on this junk 😂
That's painful and just INSANE!
Events did used to be obtainable with planning. You could unlock epic officers during an arc even. Now you can't even get that far without heroic level spends.
They seem to have lost the plot this month in terms of value and balance, first the stupid refine costs for xindi, now we have rare ticket events paying pitiful amounts of shards and a 4 day meta without enough loot to tier up a single rare FT.
Wave Defense event tomorrow, but no notification of any maintenance. Do we expect them to give us any updates to actual wave gameplay with season 2, or just a redesigned season pass with 72-hour SMS events instead of 24-hour SMS events?
I wonder if Scopely thinks people are getting some of the artifacts a lot easier than the arts drop, cause at least the Sceptor could end up creating a recycling program, but you still would need a lot of ship xp...
Maybe there aren't any major code changes. Every arc they are messing with chunks of code, but WD season might be as simple as scoring events...?
yeah, they've cut the scoring events to 1/3 of the previous one, so you won't have to do waves every day. Just make sure you do them every 3 days.
It's hard to find time to do waves every day, but when I find the time, I can do 3-4
Yeah, as long as that is the case for the season (which is how it reads), I concur that flexibility is a great improvement! Wave Defense is probably one of the best recent additions, even if it still is mostly a smack in the face.
As a g3 player (currently ops 39), I've been trying to go after all the surveys, so bigger players can deal with the real hostiles...
Half of these so called “events” are just cash grabs. As in, literally the only way to complete them is to make a cash store purchase. So pathetic. And insulting.
fix the points scoring on these stupid spend sms events, seriously, G3 and G5 WILL NEVER compete in the same bracket, nor will G4 and G6 so why nerf the scores and bump the milestones other than another blatant cash grab. You want to push G4 into G5 and G5 into G6 early? Make it worth it then, stop trying to force the issue, people will progress much more readily and willingly when they don'yt have to fork out their 1st and 2nd born just to open the game. When players feel they have no choice but to spend just to even move the needle a smidge, they walk away and that's what will kill this game. I don't mind occasional spending when something cool comes out and the monthly battlepass but not to the point I'll lose my house just so I can keep playing, its a mobile game folks, act like it, whatever "person" is running the show over there needs a serious reality check and a kick in the shorts.
Where are you reading this?
In-game news board
Wait, hold on- There is a 21-day "Season 2", including 7 three-day "Operation Bulwark WDBP (Wave Defense BattlePass) Events", but each of those 7 Events has 3 one-day "Formation Alpha SMS" events. And there are 20 milestones of scoring in 5,000 point increments. Soes this not sound like Daily Participation? 21 SMS's, 21-Day Season, 20 Milestones..... @pseudo rune or MOD's, can we get a scoring/ participation clarification here? I have no idea how to explain how the scoring works based solely on this information. Thank you!
I mean if all of the 3 day events cover 3 milestones (or 15k), that's an easy clear. Or those 3 formation events cover the last bit...but yeah, we need a bit more detail about how the math works out...
they could really take another look at the grind on these Hirogen events. Most of us are ops locked to get past the 47's to hit bigger. The grind is a bit much here
Kill some of the 50+ hirogen that spawn in the uc formada systems
NO
The 7 events are the scoring event
the One day formation alpha happens once
Beta once
Omega once
It looks just just be "wave defense events" Dates they run are on there, and the date is only once
Are you hitting the elite Hirogen
or the plain hirogen
both score, and the plain ones are lower warp, and easier
just dont hit the lost hostiles
normal hirogen have a garbage respawn rate due to the lost. you want to kill the lost to hope a hirogen spawns
thats what players ahve been doing since the inception of the game, you kill some of the others, to get the ones you REALLY want to spwan
Thanks @granite zenith !! So for each of the seven Bullwarks, we are earning a portion of the 100,000 available Battlepoints points based on the waves we participate in and the level of completion reached in each, correct? And if so, are the Alpha Omega and Delta all runing during Bulwark # 2 also scoring in the Season Pass Event or are they a separate thing? I appreciate you!
Reading it, it looks to be just a wave defense set of events,
Elite. Plain ones take longer as they spawn inconsistently.
Have yet to see one. even popped a bunch of the regular reds in the system to try and get one to spawn. At least I found a place to grind ship parts that I'd forgotten about.
Don’t seem to spawn inconsistently. There are fewer than Lost. Hit the hirogen and another spawns. Seems to spawn immediately if you move your ship and stop.
Even still. The problem is the number of kills required to complete the event. There are plenty of elites to kill. Capped out at 47. The level 50 non-elite dont appear often enough to make this grind any better. Point being the grind is excessive
For me, the DQs are good for relics, but going to the pinwheel you might be able to hit higher Hirogen with a ship other than Voyager
We need more pvp mechanics and pvp events based on docking with materials as apposed to collecting materials, it shouldn't count unless you get it back to base. ☠️
Cap, the grind is always crazy and always constant. As soon as you hit 1 goal, there are 4 more things to grind for. I def agree with you on event event grinds can be excessive.
man they need to stop with all the heroic events, why don't they just call them what they are pay to win events, give scopely thousands of dollars and you might win somthing
also where is my archer's enterpise that should be like a lvl 30 ship as it is a pre tos ship
Hi dear event chat. I have a question please: When does the server war from server 108 start does anyone know please? Thank you for helping 🙂
You'd have to clarify what you're talking about.
Server specific stuff you'd probably have to ask your general chat. If you're talking about incursions, that already happened, so probably next month for the next one.
I'm new here & am only the temporary admiral of my alliance until Scopely chooses a new one & I promised my former admiral before he left. To help as much as I can. I appreciate any help I can get from you guys
Do you mean territory reset
No I mean the server war if it starts at server 108/Armus please
We don't have an event called a server war though.
Incursions is when its your server vs another server. Is that what you mean?
I call it server war but it's server vs server
We already had it I thought
I don't like it I put a shield & don't participe on this war
Ah, Incursions, we just had it. They don't give dates on it till closer, but it has usually been in the week between arcs.
incusions is like once a month
ah you call this incusions sorry I don't kow how you call that in english sorry again
Last one was January 5
Yep and it actually worked this time 🤣
February may be funky due to the way the days in the month fall. But maybe February 2 or February 5 or February 9. Hard to tell.
but thany you very much for your help @ all🙂
Keep an eye on #⭐-official-announcements for announcements on it.
And worst comes to worst, if you see Incursion Prep events, you know Incursions is probably going to happen soon.
@karmic vault for the moment that's more than enough I thyvm 🙂
@karmic vault ok again TYVM 🥰
You're welcome
@karmic vault @serene helm & all you too 🙂
I must learn a many things concern Discord😅 It's reallly new for me
@karmic vault official-announcement daily that was really helpful to "saw§ me how I must watch
Is there some reason the devs and scopley are too stupid to put only Voyager counts for this event?
Prolly because all ships count for the event
probably because voyager is the slow way to do it
voyager finished it pretty quick for me, lol
Can someone please tell me why a few months ago we were told that the daily grind would get better. However now it is absolutely impossible to do everything for people like me that have about an hour to play, daily. Now we have another bp for waves that can't be completed unless you have high level players online at the same time you are.
They want you to get frustrated so you'll buy things to keep up/catch up.
It’s actually not, grinding lvl 50 elites is pretty quick finish as it turns out
took me like 3 minutes of hitting 58s
if you can make 50 elites i'd believe that. i'm still short a chunk of warp on that
Grush is your friend
ghrush gets me to the 47's
there's another 50 voyager warp at ops 47 i probably need
Oh you’re still 46?
yup
Ah ok. Actually might even have needed the +5 bump at 48 don’t remember 🤔
Same. 47s tops in the ghrushmobile. Sniping alongside Lost was the play
I’m 41 and can’t hit the 44s with ghrush in the lineup. So now I’m stuck grinding the 43 system and it takes FOREVER.
unless you've got access to a voyager system about the same as your ops level, i really suggest PMC, farm lost to spawn hirogens in the normal DQ systems with your biggest ship
One spend event back to back with another, go back to school scopely
Then why cant the whip be made available in the store at least during the event. I've been nothing but lat and con lat for 12hrs and haven't even hit the 3rd milestone yet (which is where I'm quitting)
Are you ops 40+? if so, check your webstore or the FT section in-game.
Exactly, for a L31 This event should have been locked out of my view, or replaced with a " simple replacement"
there's no logic anymore
I’m also l31… it’s literally just free resources
Ridiculous, having to Mine a total of 14hrs to finish this event. 2 Feesha's mining 11.5 hrs yesterday and and additional 2.5 hrs this morning. Scopely should pay us, for all the time we have to put in for all the grinding that has to be done!
You don't have to
😄 "having to mine"? 😄
I ignored event, always have done and always will
"Heroic" = Going the extra mile to get ahead. Its not meant to be easy
Ya I skipped that one
You guys gets to stressed 🙈😄
You dont need to get every event done to 100%..
Just relax and do what you can. like me, i do just the half way. Easy done , a few rewards. Im fine with.
Same like all other stuff.
You dont need to do everything. 😌
Heroic might not mean "easy" but it should at least be possible to complete with an 18-24h grind of some type. Lumping players in the 30s into an SMS/SLB that is tiered for G5/G6 players is like putting PeeWee baseball players against the MLB. You're sending a very strong message that you don't care about developing players or adding to your player base so when the whales die (leave due to boredom, anger and frustration), there are no players to replace them.
For the Tripp SMS top tier, you'd have to earn 866.7k points with 20 for 3* uc and 30 for 3* Rare which is all that players under level 40 can reasonably obtain. 43,335 UC or 28,890 rare 3* mats needed to be spent to complete the SMS for anyone below level 40. That's not heroic, that's simply INSANE!
For me it's just a big offer at events/dailys/etc.. and I just figure out what I do with it.
43,650 uc 3* and 1,767 rare 3* is what it takes to get an Enterprise to T7 or to finish the Recruiting Tripp SMS in 1 day (or was it a 2d event, as if that makes it any more attainable).
Anyone know when the next treasury is? Lol
This event is intended for players with the "Whip" thats how you complete it quicker. Without whip they dont expect you to complete it, they expect you to buy the whip $$$.
Also what you on about? This is a mining C-Lat event not a spend event my comment you replied to was in relation to the "Gold Rush Event" which is mining only
@burnt girder should start this week
Yeah I think they got confused between two threads, the heroic c-lat event is only for 40+ as I think you can’t get the whip before then.
You've confused or crossed my Recruiting Tripp SMS, which is mats spending, with the Slash post on cLat mining. I'd love to have the whip but I don't think it'd help with mats.
?? you replied to my comment on C-Lat gold rush, i never replied to you 😄
Ah yeah treasury starts on Thursday 👍
also spending for Mats Heroic events below ops 40 is possible, This is the raw requirement for T1-T9 Enterprise, which is a ship unlocked at ops 34 (raw = no research)
Yes, I referenced that prior to my post. I intentionally used the ENT as a reference as most high level players have built it too .... but how many popped it to T7 on day one? That's the benchmark I was trying to establish to demonstrate the ridiculously absurd tiers since they (Scopely) revalued the SMS scoring roughly a month ago.
Its a simple goal scopley have, drain your rss so you have nothing. To them they assume this will result in you buying packs $$$ to get the rss you need 😄 but the event rewards are not worth the pixels they consume
BINGO! On that we agree!!!
But, enough people keep buying things to make the game profitable, so until everyone that doesn’t spend is drained and doesn’t buy more, Scopely will assume the method works.
it's the same math they used to say that 40-42 could do the xindi grind. obviously it's possible with every research and FT and artifact maxed out. but that's not feasible.
42 gets UC G4* ships with PMT and zero crit crew below deck. It should be easy (Be it 3-5 trips +)
40-41 with Max G3* Epics, perhaps... but like you said maxed 😄 or maybe a ISS Jelly guess they gather you will have that maxed at 40-42 😄
valdore T2 didn't survive one ship. might be able with good RNG. but freash into 42 as the arc started. my max auger doesn't survive even close.
At 43, before the chest costs were lowered, it was horrible, but doable. Can only imagine 40-42 was much worse
Maybe I’m luckier than others at my Ops, crew and ship tier might vary a lot between players
T2 ships are always kinda useless, no ship is useful until min T4 at least. You do have the lvl 2 delay beam favour unlocked? im ops 44, with T7 valdore, so couldnt compare less. But i will go with my augur see if possible
At, now, 44, i can manage 12 xindi interceptors with my T9 valdore, E Picard, E Data and 5
max delay. but here is my stance. the expectation that you should instantly have a 42unc t4 isn't really realistic. t4 without efficently reseach is 72k unc ship parts.
Nope maxed G3 ships will not work 😄 just tried it and blew up. All for science! But my T7 Valdore can hit about 10-12 Hostiles per trip
yeah. I know g3 ships can. but they have to be like 11mil power. which is much higher ops
depends on the player, im ops 44 soon in a few months maybe gonna jump to ops 46. I will be able to get T7 Pilum on day 1 😄 #hoarder (pure f2p)
I was replying to the comment about event(s) being "Heroic" rather than the mining aspect but I'm quite sure I'll find those mining events equally absurd when the time comes.
As for spending money in games, I have no problem with spending money and helping good games grow. This company, Scopely, has yet to earn my money as I have a problem contributing to a company with such an atrocious track record of releasing quality products. The concept of STFC is fantastic, the players are wonderful to interact with as well but the poor coding, susceptibility to crashing/freezing, failure to Beta test releases and inability to sustain a growing user base makes this game it's own special kind of dumpster fire.
technically I can get it up to t4. but I'm also not the average player for rss. it's just what they put out that "40+ can do this. but really it's 44+"
I think they make broad generalisations
Its not “40+ can do this” its “40+ can do this if…”
valid. spending should be in responce to wanting to support a product. not forced to survive their greed and given the horrid quality. it's not great
Ah, i never meant that to be "Generally any Heroic event" probably should post comments on 1 line 😄
An ops 42 having a t4 uc is a more realistic expectation than them having a maxed g3 epic, actually. They’re not going to cover the case of a guy who just popped ops 42 and doesn’t have the materials to get to the shipyard either. Expecting a t4 42 is a far cry from having all research/ft/artifacts/officers maxed.
some heroic events, are to easy. simple insanely impossible for f2p
Preaching to the choir there ... F2P as well
I guess F2P is not 100% true because I have contributed to content creators such as Rev Deuce ... just not to the Scopely Coke fund.
They need to change their market. Doing $99 packs is fine for those who can afford it but from a buisness point of view its a poor model. Think of it like this which would scopely benefit from more:
Big Spender (x1 Player buying a $100 pack) = $100
or
Small Spender (x20 Player's buying a $5 pack) = $100
Lose x1 big spender, you have no spenders your gain = $0
Lose x1 small spender you still have x19 spenders so still making $95
if they offered $5 packs they would make more money, by gaining more p2p players. who with a small taste, would be willing to spend $99 for a better taste
but their greed sees it as everyone should just be buying $100 packs and liking it.
I worry about your maths there lol
but yeah. I can't really bring myself to spend 100 on a mobile game. but over time I'd likley spend that in smaller packs.
so would i 😄 100 x5 = $500 not 100
Worry about typing, not the math ... he got the idea across.
Their big spenders are the people who went from 60 to 65 in a few weeks, not the people buying a $100 pack now and then.
I’m sure it’s some sort of business school thing
it's the 90s school of greed is good. take as much as you can as fast and then move on. it's not sustainable but it gives the short term proffit.
The point that there are actually people who have spent over $30k on this game is absurd. It throws games into an imbalance that they have difficulty recovering from. With over 550k accounts across all servers (including dead & duplicate accounts), there is a strong and loyal base they have to grow the product but they've confused loyalty to the theme (Star Trek) with loyalty to the product (STFC).
sounds like Disney 😄
Irish, that is so true! Their is tons of similar games to STFC out their, but majoirty play STFC for the "Star Trek" theme
anyone who's dealt with maintenance in the last 10 years. it's most all of them. preventive maintenace is about 10x cheaper. but companies cut it quick so they make thier bottom line better. but later on it's much more costly
Why is this arc runner allergic to paying out materials in events? Trial bells for formadas? No thanks
Really Scopely!!!! Back to back to back mat spend events with another one coming up in a few days????? Nice
they whales aren't enjoying the content and stopped spending. so it's time to gouge the lower players and close the game. is all I'm understanding by these evernts.
Dont think they realise Q Trials stuff (Forbidden Tech) is not the same as the Artefact stuff 😄
Just leavin this here
No Treasury?
treasury is later this week on the calendar.
Yeah. My Syndicate also changed scoring - it’s now impossible to hit the first milestone from free sources.
Popped a 7 day…that was the last slap in the face…I’m done.
@pseudo rune so are they just trying to bleed the players dry? spend event after spend event after changed milestones.
What you dont have s31 rep for an extra 3k per day? 🤣
The Make it Go event can just go. Thanks
3k is not the 150k required for all milestones
Why start formada events when you cannot guarantee those armadas even work
Why shouldn’t they work?
what kind of bs slb is this? ops44 and ops60 are in the same bracket
Its even wider i think
I’m 39 with a 52. So my guess I’ll be with 60s too. Maybe it’s the whole server 😂
However, with scoring independent of (armada) lvl, so its not really unbalanced. However, with such a broad bracket, rewards are laughably low
And only 50 get rewards at all.
So it looks its just another low action of scopely to further rob us from directives
It just further shows their contempt for the playerbase. The whales have spent themselves into a bracket with not enough competition. So they drag the whales into the lower brackets. It ensures the whales have to spend more and it basically makes sure the non whales lose and get a big middle finger in their face
Even support is bugged atm. Making a ticket doesnt work 😡
I heard that’s why tucker is sms only. Not enough 60s for an slb bracket so they just canceled the slb
someone tell scopely if they wanted this to be a pay ti play game, the subscription model is theway
Not enough and spending is down according to rev. Smaller spenders and F2P were getting too many characters with SLB.
Scopely should be wanting people to unlock characters. Tiering them should be the harder part but thats common sense. Deny people characters and they jst ignore them
Subscription is the best sustainable model. But they kinda keep flooring the pedal
they essentially have a subscription model with the battlepass
Yes but those battlepass rewards are getting poorer , so that subscription will dry up
I agree. The game is becoming extremely hostile to the majority of its playerbase. They are increasingly losing touch with reality as far as time people are willing to devote to the game as well
Hostile is an interesting word. Pretty accurate considering. pretty clear that theres no love for the player base anymore
Scopely doesnt care about what is best. They only care about how they can scrape as many $&£’s
@pseudo rune what does it tell about your coders when they are not able to copy paste the correct code to fix a issue that’s older than my grandmother?
These SLB rewards for 1st place are weak.
Rewards are crappy in general this arc
I’m ops 39, and I remember rewards being better during an arc I was 35. It’s legit baaaad.
For those with the whip, the 1st place reward is only worth it for the officers.
Is syndicate event missing its first milestone? Rewards I see look higher than t1 normally and I can’t complete any of these like normal
It’s not missing they raised it like 30k
Maybe they assume u would get some from bp also
Depends on how many Bp points we get tomorrow I guess. But I’ve never had to rely on them before
They raised them during the event? Or compared to previous one?
The BP doesn’t provide enough progress to be worth it, the higher Ops you get.
It doesn’t say anything about the coders - bugs happen - it does however say a lot about management.
They blew up the event - it’s no longer possible to clear first milestone with the existing “free” SynXP sources. It’s correct by design…sigh…
the Fomo SLB bracket? 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡
the fact theres no slo mo atm means you arent expecting any complaints?
Yeah, is anybody in a formada bracket with only a handful of levels? I still think it’s all lvls in one bracket 😂. Any counter evidence?
Appears there is no bracketing in formada slb ya?
bet the event planner was llke: its xmas weekend coming up and this needs publishing .. eeeffff it (submits with no bracket). and promtly leaves for xmas weekend
You can omit Xmas from that statement, lol
who left the brackets OUT? who who who who (to the tune of who let the dogs out) 🤡
()()()()()()()()()() = found them, discord had all the brackets ... time to complain about discord stealing them!
im not adding . to each pair
@pseudo rune could we get them to fix the formada systems at some point? Dinaal and Antaria have been throwing error 4 for months
Final thing for now, the first place in my museum slb is like 6k stuff. The paid bp has 8k in one of the days. So the only museum slb first place gets less than that one paid milestone. Oof
yea maybe ill delete that one
Remember when Scopely said they were going to do better...any ETA on when that starts...? The best update so far has been them realizing that the Xindi chests were too aggressive...
whew the rewards for this month's events are garbage so far...
lol they didnt realise that, they got told and proven in a stream that it was going to kill their new arc faster than bracketless SLBs
Told repeatedly, but they actually listened (which I considered part of realizing)...granted as an ops39, I still have concerns about entering into the Xindi loop...Scopely's thoughts on brackets have long been silly...
Scopely, i got some news for you:
If theres no brackets in SLBs (or you remove them completely), theres even LESS cause to level up in stfc, we can sit at ops 14 and still 'compete' as well as an ops 60 ... given that its all down to how many fomo tokens we saved up.
im exagerating with ops14, but you get the picture right? like ()() with ..
no brackets = no need to level up = no money sink at those higher levels = scopely poor = many job losses in stfc department
I have no concerns about Xindi loop. Ignoring it until there is a reasonable free path to make it something other than the time suck it is.
The meta is still being worked, but unlocking that loop provides a lot. Full Voyager crew sourcing and additional artifact sourcing. So, I get it, but I'm just saying it's still a kick in the face to low g4 players... Granted it is to everyone currently
what the heck is this whole server in one slb?
It’s quality over quantity, just like they promised.
Keep getting Armada error 4 stopping me from starting formadas. Bit of drawback to scoring imo.
WTH
Yup that's the one
will this be every day spend event?
Probably. 1 day was sufficient, stuff that event.
We Don’t Need That. Make It Stop.
So if I take my disco and kill a non-disco (say I attack an opc meridian and win), do I get 1 point (same as if I lost to that meridian) or 0 points because it’s not specifically called out in the scoring?
Disco pvp is generally disco vs disco, thats usually how it works anyway in the ship specific events, feesha vs feesha, franklin vs franklin etc
With the new absolute trash pvp mechanics, whoever fires the first shot always wins. The attacker is always supposed to fire first. How does the game choose who fires first when both players hit attack? It’s widely inconsistent even when constantly attacking the same player.
I believe they mentioned 2024. But considering we barely got 2022 new years frame. My guess is we will see 2024 stuff by 2026 , including the "quality over quantity" bit 😆
Fool me once…
The other Star Trek game had dedicated bug hunters and I was one of them. Found a bug that had been on the game since inception because no one liked playing science, and when it became too strong a second time, they knocked it down hard. They only ever paused game development for bug squashing for 1 month. That's it. Here they have a ton of stuff to keep people busy 3 months at this point, but they'll never be caught taking a breather for bug squashing.
The game issues the last month (bad decisions from Scopely re: events—brackets, low g4 players like me getting screwed) has me playing less. I actually like it—the game was taking up too much time.
If you think low g4 is bad you should see high g3
Yikes. Sorry to hear that.
Would have to basically max two epics with high efficiency to complete all tiers. I unloaded about half of what I had and got up to the 12 shard tier
Disagree. They need to run that event monthly
The person who hits attack last gets the attack flag.
So if you hit attack on someone and they notice and are able to also hit attack before you get to them, they will shoot first.
If you notice them noticing you can hit attack for a 2nd time and get the attack flag back. Unless of course they hit attack again
Hey scopley is the new waves battlepass intended to be uncompleteable by free to play cause you can't complete 5 waves off 3 days worth of waves tokens cause my math says that's only 3 waves not 5.
Its not 5 full wave defences, its just doing 5 rounds within a wave defence, same as it was last month
Ok so I was just misunderstanding how the points are destributed thx a bunch 👍😊
Who's bright idea was it to have the Formada SLB bracket so wide???? What hope in helll has an Ops 27 got against a 59????? 💩💩💩💩💩
Try ops 68 😅
🤣
Your math is wrong, Its not 5 Wave Defences, it is 5 waves(rounds). If you reach round 5 you complete battlepass event instantly during your 1st Wave Defence.
As its 3 days, you need to do one of the following to complete event
- (Cost 100 Tokens) Wave Defences x1 = Reach Round 5
- (Cost 200 Tokens) Wave Defences x2 = Reach Round 2 on 1st then Round 3 on 2nd
- (Cost 300 Toeksn) Wave Defences x3 = Reach Round 2 on 1st, then Round 2 on 2nd, then Round 1 on 3rd.
The 2nd and 3rd options their make it possible for any ops 30-39 to easily complete.
Also WD is generally F2P... only P2P aspect would be buying the credits to get the Favours faster.
Ops 31 here I did the event during 1 wave defence 😁 managed to hitch a ride of some higher ops and reached wave round 8 💪
That's really the only way ops 30-36 maybe slightly higher will finish. I usually only get past one wave 1 per wave defense unless I'm getting carried by others.
Anyone having trouble with the 1st question in the trivia?
It's wrong. I killed a rom and finished it but pretty sure his name ain't Carl....
well that jsut shows all kinds of info about what the coder knew about the series. lol
NX-01 Trivia
||A - Kill 1 Rom Hostile (The correct answer is Charles but Scopley has it wrong so... as this posting I put the answer that will complete the event)
C - Mine 1 Raw Ore
C - Mine 1 Parasteel
B - Mine 1 Raw Crystal
D - Kill 1 Fed Hostile||
<@&509691205798592532> ^^
Dam first day was 1100 g3 uncommon, 2nd day 1400 g3 uncommon, and now 1900 g3 uncommon , what's tomorrow 3k? Then 10k? Jeez.. couldn't just have the same ms all 5 days ?
they are trying to bleed people dry. and once you start if you want to finish they will keep upping the price. I never even stared it lol because it's useful but overpriced and don't have the RSS
crystal fed
So 1st trivia is wrong. It should be B but u score on A
Trivia question #1 is not scoring, ugh
Not like the chars whole thing was being the third of his name.
you expect scoply to know Star Trek?
Ofc not
Does anyone know when treasury event starts? Thought it was today? Thanks
Or how to Google apparently
They have the wrong answer...Carl scores for that one instead of Charles
guess they decided not to have a overarching milestone like the past. just the trivia,
quality over quantity. you get less and have it be less.
and it is high quality with wrong answers
I started it cause the first day it wasn't too bad and I needed to max my mayflower to scrap, but now idk if it's even worth it but I also feel like I've invested too much already to stop..
come on Scopley....seriously, can;t even get the guys name right?
Disappointed 'Carl'
u got the triva 1 wrong answer is Charles "Trip" Tucker III
even a non star trek dude will get that right just watching the 1st episode
The event's been corrected. Still the same task, but now shows the right answer according to lore. 😃
Has Scopely ever actually watched Star Trek: Enterprise?
wow i think paramount is rolled you doppley
Treasury started a day early, that's interesting.
who are the officers in it?
You should know the answer to that this game has had ships that are incorrect from the start, or near it, from enterprise...
Is anyone else not getting points for destroying hostiles with combat exocomp activated? I have g2 combat exo activated and not getting any points for killing hostiles. For the california class event.
The Pickle ship says it all...
Tal, BLT, and EMH are in the treasury.
ty!
I restarted the game and it was still incorrect. Lol 🤦♂️
also isnt there generally 6... 5 questions .. one parent.. where u need to answer all 5 questions for a bonus
scopley is being very scarce with the RSS this month for some odd reason
„Testing“ out new ways to screw you over 😂😜
Carl... Charles is disappointed
this is a bleed month. they want everything gone so you buy packs. since people stopped buying as much because the game is "quality". or as many have speculated it's a cash grab before the game dies. which if the communication and game design are any exampls of. yeah it's not looking good.
Who is emh? Also, thanks for the insight.
Emergency Medical Hologram.
This is a solid treasury
Seriously STFC can't even get tucker's name right on the trivia answers. his name is Charles Tucker the third not Carl
not for the german client 😄
Wonderful. I turned in my dailies after reset, but it didn't count for the Treasury. SMH
I think they 'Tripped'
Scopely where are the mat events???
Seriously. Day 3 of spend SMS events. Which genius phoned this event in!?
Amyone got trivia answers?
It's amazing how increased pay equates to decreased intelligence...
I still believe the content creators of this game have not seen Star Trek all they see is $$$$$$$
I still believe there is absolute zero effort in quality control..
How freakin' basic of an error is that...
Woah
The quiz answer was fixed so A is Charles now and B is Carl.
appears it may be a slow roll out; even after restart - Answers are still wrong for me.
Ah probably.
to get text to update on an event you have once you've seen the wrong text, you normally need to clear localization
Have to love a Formada event with half the Formadas not working
A day may come when scopely fixes the armadas, when we all join hands in bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of bugs and shattered ships when the Age of Armadas comes crashing down, but it is not this day!
That's what worked for me.
Make it go event should be renamed Make It STOP...
Hey folks, I make a modified event calendar each month for our server, some folks find it a bit easier to read/follow than others, please feel free to share with your respective alliances/discords
Does anyone know if the syndicate event on the 25th will be the same as the one now? Same milestones/rewards/officers? Thanks
they dont share rewards for events beforehand
That doesn’t seem to be the case. I’ve tested extensively spamming the attack button when someone attacks me and it always seems to be random who gets the first shot unless the other player is massively bigger, then they always get the first shot no matter what. Scopely built in whale favors.
Hmm. Interesting
If both players hit attack it’s random
I believe
Who is Carl Tucker? lol Dopely
For real. How you going to mess up the trivia when a quick google search gets you the correct answer. I put in a ticket because I thought it was bugged.
you get quality resources instead of quantity 🤣
What crew is everyone using on the Xindi hostile?
pike cath t'laan or ent e picard, ent e deanna ent e data
I used to use e Picard e data and five could hit loads but now doesn’t work?
I haven’t got troi
Delay is maxed none in crit floor
check the logs
Did you forget to take Hugh off the below deck?
that seems to be 90% of issues when xindi "stop working"
what rank is floor at?
ah
can't justify the prime for something that only touches on one loop (that I can manage currently) 😂
counters the bajor favors too
Actually ran into one
on my server it was pretty rare
if I did any raiding that would matter 😂
blasphemy
Xindi has yet to actually work
Did the spending meta event reward get reduced? I don’t have screenshots but I thought it payed out 5k catalysts when it started. Now it’s down to 2.3k.
are you sure you didnt get confused by the target score of 5k?
dont think its changed for me, its currently at 2.4k after 5k points, I'm pretty sure it was never 5k for 5k
was always what it is
Can’t wait until they roll out Captain Jason Archer to fight the xindi. lol
Except its Captain Jaxson Archer!
I’m sure we will end up with Sterling Archer by mistake
ist it new, that you cannot reach the first milestone of the heroic syndicate event free to play?
I reached it and it cost me nothing
hm... made all the pulls possible 🤔
But i seem to remember it depends on what the mantis refinery gives you
I did 3 double mantis pulls and 2 lots of daily syndicate and 2 lots of daily task rewards
Got to 77k pts, needed 75k for milestone 1
i need 75k too but i am missing 4740 points...
i checked, i did all the pulls 3 times...
your mantis is probably a lower tier
Must be, doesn’t take much to get less
112.5k with 3x pulls at t10 mantis
Yeah, I’m t3 mantis. 3 double pulls, 3 daily claims, 3 sets of dailies, and short of first ms. I’d have to tier up my mantis for another double pull. I think that’s what scopely is trying for on this one
I'm still the same ops46, raised my mantis by 2 tiers since the last syndicate event and I'm shy of the first milestone
Why are we moving backwards?
If they're doing it because you can pull 3k syndicate xp in the s31 store now, they're completely mental
almost no one on our server does waves, and certainly not enough to warrant pulling syndicate xp on top of the other 25 things you need to level up in that store
My mantis is T6, so must be Scopelys idea of the sweet spot for the mid 40s then
Mine’s T8, pulling 4950 syndicate exp a day from the mantis refinery alone
Dang.
It doesn’t help that scopely doesn’t announce when syndicate events are going to run
For the 2nd time i recall, its on the calendar, but not the schedule like the last time
I quickly learnt to not claim bp rewards once they had syndicate xp until after the event. But this month, only the elite path has paid that so far, free is today, after event ends
the monthly chest for daily goals and battlepass overflow
Men
360
For today's event, I would need to be playing for at least 13 months
LoL
So I can make this key, just by purchasing the package
🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽
yes
I think it turns out at around 3 free treasuries a year?
They regularly bring out a flash pass so you can get some extra from the overflow in those flash passes
for what they charge for the key I think getting two or three free keys a year isnt too bad
Don't be fooled by the "value" they create
95% of their packs should not be €100
But yes you basically save up those keys and choose which treasury you spend it on
Treasury has something you don't want like Parsteel?
Wait for the next one
I got the treasury this time completely F2P
But new players will have to save up for a while
My Mantis is tier locked and it took 3 double pulls along with everything else
Yes. It’s been like that forever. F2P save up the broken rods over multiple arcs. We get to open the loot box 3-4 times a year. So.,.when you can unlock it…choose wisely.
I do wish they gave like 364 rods instead of 360, then I wouldn't be 40 short 😔
hi, is there a way to know when the syndicate events gonna happen or those are surprises?
so much is way overpriced. but people keep spending it. so it'll never change.
Only when we’re lucky enough to be told. Next one is 25th and 26th though, as it’s on the calendar
Thx
Also bear in mind, the treasury is like a purchased pack all to itself, which means it scales to ops level. Here's ops 49 treasury.
That's not a f2p treasury
Sure it is. Not this month, but next month i can open it for free if I like the contents.
Opening it maybe, but contents are inflated due to spending that's already taken place
Not sure what you mean. I don't ever see it go up, so it's not watching spending of server, servers, or me. Pretty static month to month
The age of the server may have something to do with it, but mostly ops based as far as I'm aware.
Level up more 😉
I mean if ya wanna go there
Ah, nice treasury. I do want to go there, all I gotta do is level up lol. Grats!
Can't open it this month though 🤣
So, what exactly was our dispute? Near as I can tell, you just showed my initial point exactly. Willing to be educated, feel free to be my mentor. No /s
